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jason bermas
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You see, it's the numbers that they can't deny.
It's the numbers that get the mainstream coverage.
You know, that's why Obama went biggest, because Change the Channel put up in his account a one-spot version.
You look at the other versions, yeah, they have millions of hits, but it's 1 through 12, and they range between their numbers.
You put it all up at once, people sit down and they watch it, and their jaw is on the floor.
And then the mainstream media, like the Wall Street Journal comes out here, and they say, oh, we're gonna do this big story on you.
It doesn't bash us enough, so they can't put it out.
At least make them cover it.
I mean, LA Times talked about the Obama deception.
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Thank you all.
unidentified
Thank you.
Thank you.
jason bermas
Thank you for listening to GCN.
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And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
alex jones
We're going live at PrisonPlanet.tv in about seven and a half minutes with Wayne Paul, brother of Dr. Ron Paul.
We're going to play a clip of him from the Obama deception live at PrisonPlanet.tv and the audio over the radio.
So that's coming up.
Stay with us.
She'll be with us for five minutes to the next hour.
Then we're going to have Dr. Labo and her husband General Stubblebine on the show to talk about the whole eugenics agenda.
But Wayne Paul is coming up.
So, stay with us.
Right now, let's keep going to your calls.
Let's talk to Jason in Colorado, then Kay, Ronnie, Phillip, Ronnie, and others.
Go ahead.
You're on the air.
Jason? Hey, Alex.
unidentified
This is Jason calling from the beautifully fed-infested state of Colorado.
I just wanted to see if you actually had a chance to look at the WHO update for July 16th.
Uh, regarding the swine flu.
alex jones
Yeah, they say we're level six and they're getting ready for global forced inoculation of three shots.
And here in Austin, they have the public already admitting on the newscast says it isn't even the right flu, but the public doesn't care and the kids are all lining up to get the special shot the government wants you to have.
And of course, it'll come out later that they're all going to be sterile or have brain tumors, but you know, folks don't know the government's killers.
You really can't blame them being gullible.
It's like your dog that trusts you.
If you were to take it out in the backyard, it would trust you as you put a.45 to its head and blew its head off.
They're just as trusting as a Labrador Retriever.
unidentified
Yep. Let me expand on that just for a sec.
Now, that's what I'm referring to is that the World Health Organization had been coming out with daily updates every two to three days with the number of confirmed cases and the number of deaths in each country.
And then they came out with a report that said that they are no longer requiring countries Uh, to submit regular reports of individual laboratory confirmed cases and deaths to the World Health Organization.
alex jones
Well, I mean, what is it?
I mean, there's several different tracking systems.
What is it?
It's like 170-something I checked last week on the World Health Organization.
What are they saying it is right now?
unidentified
It was on July 6th.
It was at right around 97,000.
It had jumped 30% from the previous week.
alex jones
No, I'm talking about deaths.
unidentified
No, they are not reporting it.
They have not updated it since July 6th.
That's what I'm telling you.
alex jones
That's what I'm telling you.
I'm saying, what is the number?
You're not listening.
I don't have it in front of me.
What I'm asking you is, what is the last number they're giving for deaths?
unidentified
I'd have to go in to look at the...
alex jones
I think it's 170-something.
I checked it last week, but the...
Yes, because it's all hype.
It's all a lie.
It's all much ado about nothing.
And the last two swine flu outbreaks broke out at U.S. military bases.
And this thing is...
This is a giant PSYOP, and they're saying, you know, millions have it in the U.S., but yeah, you're carrying a no-big-deal virus.
There's thousands of flu viruses out there.
And so what do you think's going on with this?
What do you think the bigger story is?
unidentified
Well, I think the bigger story is that if the World Health Organization is actually leading the charge on informing the public, not only in America, but across the globe, and then now saying that they're no longer going to be requiring countries to report confirmed cases nor deaths, Sounds to me like they're going to stop actually just tracking it on the larger level so that we can stay uninformed.
Again, if it's, you know, does mutate or spread or death start to increase in South America, which they, you know, are suspecting, or other countries, how are we ever going to be able to track that information if they are not reporting it?
alex jones
No, I hear you.
I'll, you know what, write a blurb and send it to writers at InfoWars.com.
Thank you so much, Jason.
Yeah, I mean, I've been meaning to spend more time on this whole flu situation.
As I said back when it first broke out, that they were already really at level 5. They were going to go to level 6 within 96 hours, I believe the memo said.
You can pull that up, it's on InfoWars.com.
And then it came out that we were telling you the truth, and it was a real document.
I got it from an official, I'll just say that, public servant here in Austin.
And then months later, yeah, they said, oh yeah, we've really been at level 6. That's going on.
I said either this is a giant hoax or they could be doing the big one right now because they've been gearing up for mass culling, mass death.
This is one of their models.
And now they're saying, oh yeah, it's going to get real bad and could kill millions in the fall when it's no big deal.
Do they know it's going to mutate to something deadly?
Usually mutates to something that's less harmful.
Are they going to release something else that's similar?
Is this their perfect cover for the collapsing economy in the fall?
And the global dictatorship being set up by the New Bank of the World?
They've certainly got it in their fist of cards.
They certainly could play that card.
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alex jones
We are locked and loaded and ready to go for the third hour of this transmission.
It's already Thursday, the 16th day of July 2009.
And for this hour and five minutes into the next hour, we have Wayne Paul, CPA and brother of Representative Dr. Ron Paul.
And of course, Wayne appears in the Obama deception, discusses the Social Security scam, the Federal Reserve, how the country is bankrupt, and we are under emergency powers and the security of the Treasury.
is really in control of the country.
Or how the Secretary of the Treasury is really in control of the country through the War Powers Act.
In fact, let's play that scene of Wayne Paul in the Obama deception, then we're going to go right to Wayne Paul.
Here it is.
wayne paul
In 1913, the Federal Reserve Act was passed for the House where three members of Congress were on the floor.
At that time, they only needed a majority of votes to pass it.
So in 1913, the Federal Reserve Act was passed.
20 years later, 1933, under Roosevelt, the United States was declared bankrupt.
And in 1933, the Federal Reserve Private Bank says, OK, USA, what are you going to pledge as collateral on the debt you owe me?
What happened by 1936?
Does anybody know?
We instituted social security system and you and I and our children and our children's children were pledged as collateral on the debt of our government to the Federal Reserve and that's where we're at today.
It took 20 years to make this country bankrupt and since then our government has operated under emergency powers of our government.
It is not the President that makes the decision in this country.
It's the Secretary of Treasury who turns around and is put in there by the Federal Reserve to manage the bankruptcy.
We've been in bankruptcy ever since.
So to print $700 billion and to give it away, how do they get away with it?
The manager of the bankruptcy is told by the Federal Reserve this is the way to go.
That's where we're at today.
unidentified
Yes, we should point out, Congressman Ron Paul now has a huge amount of sponsors for a bill in the House of Representatives to abolish the private Federal Reserve.
alex jones
All right, here we go, folks.
We're going to go ahead and go back now to our guest, Wayne Paul.
Wayne, it's great to have you here with us today.
wayne madsen
It's good to be on board.
alex jones
Where are you joining us from today?
Fantastic. Great to have you on with us.
Wayne, there's so much to talk about, but let's begin with the issue you were just discussing, how this country was taken into receivership through fraud, because these shysters, these rhinestone con artists, these flim-flam artists,
they create all this out of nothing, and they basically buy up the world out of nothing, and so they want to create a debt black hole Well,
wayne madsen
I think the most fascinating I think.
putting their name on the line to have the Federal Reserve Bank audited.
I'd have never believed it.
That alone tells you and I and your listeners that the understanding of how the Federal Reserve Bank worked and what it does to turn around and confiscate our private property, it's an amazing feat, and I think that's something that'll be changing the world if we can get better
alex jones
absolutely you know i love it when your brothers on television and they say abolish the federal reserve get rid of uh...
the income tax how are we going to do that when that we have to fund the government and ron paul always says this building behind me in the capital was built for a hundred plus years before we had this foreign banking takeover uh...
can you uh...
get into the nature of the federal reserve the war powers You know, go back through what you talked about in that video clip, but in more detail.
The nature of our rulers, and it is amazing that five, ten years ago, almost no one knew it was a private run-for-profit criminal group.
Now, it's a big national issue that nobody can audit it, that it says it's above the law, it won't tell Congress.
Senator Sanders and others, and your brother, the Congressman Ron Paul, say, where's the money, where'd it go?
And Bernanke says, I'm not going to tell you.
Everybody, even if they're dumbed down, knows fundamentally nobody's above the law.
They're asking, who are these private bankers that own everything and control the issuance of currency and credit?
So, uh, break down kind of the history of this group for us, and then more on what is it like for you fighting them for decades to now see it, you know, really, really starting to be on the run, uh, bleeding.
I mean, I mean, it's a cornered rat.
wayne madsen
I think the fascinating thing about that is if you go to the Federal Reserve Act that was passed in 1913, in that act and in the bill, if anybody's interested, go on the web, under government,
and read that act, and they define that the green stuff we have in our pocket is Well
alex jones
it absolutely is.
And now they're going to a whole new unit of a global SDR where the central banks don't even have it backed up by the nation states or by the people paying the income tax into the private federal reserve.
Now it's just SDRs that are above even the nation state currency.
So we're already going to this global cashless society right now.
It's just a mopping up process to get rid of the national currencies or to convert them into you may still be able to pay with cash, but there'll be a thumbprint or a face scan at the time of sale fully bringing us into their control.
And then economically, they can outlaw any underground economy and then socially engineer us and squeeze us and really get the control they want.
But getting more into the fact that we are starting to draw blood on these people, we are in the fight.
We have shaken them.
We have rung their bell in this boxing match.
We've made them see Tweety Bird, as they say.
And now the public's figuring out they're not invincible.
They're not on Mount Olympus above us.
What is that like for you after decades of fighting these people?
wayne madsen
Well, I think the exciting thing for me is the fact that even though I've known this and studied it for 25 years, I think I'm reminded most of all in this past year of a young gentleman in our area who is a senior in high school.
And for his passage of his senior year, he had to write a senior thesis.
And he studied and wrote thesis on the Federal Reserve System and how it operated.
And for me, a young person age 17, having the knowledge that this fellow has as to how it operates, got to be the most exciting thing.
I look forward to the future only because I think, as Congressman Paul pointed out, it's the education process that really counts.
And when we can see that in our young people, I can see light at the end of the tunnel that we're going to turn around and we're going to create a constitutional republic, form of government, and it's going to take all of us, starting from the local city offices to the county, to the state, to the federal, it will change because of knowledge.
alex jones
And when we win, we're going to have a second renaissance in this country and appreciate it because you don't really appreciate something until you've had to fight for it or until you've lost it and then fought for it and gotten it back.
wayne madsen
I couldn't agree with you more.
I am looking forward to that day.
And I intend to be here when that day happens.
alex jones
Well, so many times in history, tyrants and tyrannies collapse.
I think Gandhi, to paraphrase him, said it looks like the dictator, the corrupt leaders are invincible, but then suddenly they just collapse.
You've got to just keep throwing the punch.
in there and not giving up knowing we're gonna break it that's like George Washington when he finally won the war and they surrendered he was stunned for several hours Right. Stay there Wayne Paul always amazing.
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In the New World Order's war against humanity, Barack Obama is the tip of the spear.
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We've got to have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded.
alex jones
The Obama deception completely destroys the myth that Obama is working for the best interest of the American people.
Well, Obama's already fudging.
unidentified
He's fudged since day one of this election.
webster tarpley
If you have a demagogue with a fanatical mass movement of personality cultists who is imposing the program of a group of extreme bankers and finance oligarchs, That's fascism.
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unidentified
the people strike back You can run on for a long time.
I like the Texas Ranger.
alex jones
Credo which is actually borrowed from one of the founding Texas Rangers a man in the wrong Can't stop a man in the right that keeps on a coming And that's what we've got to do because these people mean business we're fighting short segment right now long one coming up I wanted to get To some of the things that Wayne may never have talked about on air first then we'll get back into solutions and where this country's going and his brother and the family and now one of his nephews and Rand Paul,
it looks like, is going to run for the Congress.
But go back to your rural upbringing, you know, some stories about you and your brothers, about Ron, and about what it's been like for you.
How you woke up, how he woke up, or were you guys born awake, being born to, you know, hard-working farmers, dairy farmers, you know, all you guys working from the time you were about, you know, Six, seven years old.
Were you guys born awake or what was the process like?
Let us into a window of the icon that is your brother, Dr. Ron Paul, and yourself, of course.
wayne madsen
Okay. We were born and raised in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania.
Small rural town.
And my mother and father had a dairy milk processing and delivery business.
It started out in the basement of our house, and my mom and dad worked seven days a week to process bottled milk and deliver it.
And we were always required on Sundays to go to church Sunday morning, and my dad took off enough time to go to church.
But he worked seven days a week up until I was in fifth grade.
Now, I'm the youngest of five boys.
Ron is the middle of the five of us, so we claim he's the spoiled one in the family because the two oldest ones paved the way for him.
And then we were never allowed to do anything, but we always say Ron got away with all of it.
I'm saying that because he can't rebut that on this radio show, so be careful.
I might deny that later on.
Anyway, my revelation into this knowledge started back in the early 70s, and it had to do with my representation of a taxpayer who, after I started to represent him, he ended up, six weeks after I met him,
away. And it was a direct result of the confrontation he had with the Internal Revenue Service.
Oh. And I said to myself, if this is the way it is, I'm not going to ever do another tax return something's not right in the system.
So that was my awakening call, and that started my research, my documentation.
And everything that I've learned from that point on has helped me in better made me better understand.
And I think when people understand and learn, even if they can't do anything about it, they're better off morally, they're better off spiritually, and they're better off in your dealings with their fellow man.
unidentified
That makes all the difference in the world.
alex jones
What woke your brother up?
Tell us about Congressman Ron Paul, your brother.
wayne madsen
Well, I think Ron's timing was the fact that when he was in college and medical school and he always had a fair time.
And he got involved in research and study of Ludwig von Mises.
And von Mises is the father of free enterprise economics. And there's a von Mises institute that's in existence today that's extremely successful and continues to support free economics.
alex jones
And it's headed up by Lou Rockwell.
wayne madsen
That is correct.
And it made a lot of sense to him, so he started to apply it, not only in his professional life, but in his personal life, and was extremely in the implementation of free enterprise economics.
And it was at that time that he started to formulate the idea that he needed to teach this to other people.
alex jones
Stay there.
Let's continue with this on the other side and also talk about your saga.
You've had quite a story as well.
And then we'll open the phones up for Wayne Paul, brother of Congressman Dr. Ron Paul.
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Finishing up with your upbringing, so your brother gets into the free market economics, he's a doctor, then I guess you sort of get involved with Barry Goldwater somehow.
Tell us more about the inside scoop on your brother.
wayne madsen
Well, I think his total goal and effort when he first decided to run for Congress was to educate people in understanding free enterprise economics.
And he said to Carol, his wife, the first time he ran, he said, don't worry, Carol, I'm not going to win.
I just want to get the message out.
Well, the first time he didn't win.
unidentified
But she says, what are you going to do if you do win?
wayne madsen
Well, the next time he ran, he won.
Now, when he first ran for Congress back in the mid-70s, he had a platform, one-page platform he was running on, and it just so happens that my wife gave him his first contribution and he sent her a thank you note.
And the second page was his platform of what he was running on, which was basically free enterprise economics.
But if you were to read that single page today, you would think he wrote it yesterday because he's never changed.
And I think that's the most consistent thing that can ever say, as far as my brother is concerned, is he's never wavered from the truth and from the facts and from the Constitution.
And he has just been amazing and steadfast in that, and I think people today now realize that.
alex jones
And you judge a tree by its fruits.
Do you remember any of the things on that one-page platform?
wayne madsen
Well, I can't remember right off, except while I'm talking, we'll find it.
Maybe my wife can.
alex jones
Sure, sure, sure.
Coming up after the next break, if you can, it's just very, very interesting history here.
And as your brother has humbly and rightfully said, he is just an articulate, genteel, intelligent, Focal point, and two years ago, well now a year and a half ago at Bilderberg, our inside sources have been proven to be very very accurate,
said that they were worried not about Ron Paul winning during that campaign, but that they were worried about the movement, that the biggest movement now in high schools and universities wasn't the controlled left paradigm or the controlled right paradigm of the collectivist, but that people were now rediscovering the Bill of Rights Constitution and becoming free market Constitutionalist and the people were discovering the private fellow reserve and I think they had well-founded fears now here we are a year and a half later and We've gone from almost and
I know I keep repeating this no one knowing the Fed was private being laughed at So now the enemies had to come out in the open and go, okay We're private but we run things for your own good and if you audit us will cause a depression basically terrorism economic terrorism and we have Open announcements of a new bank of the world we'll pay our carbon taxes to, and now for world government, and hundreds and hundreds of articles a month pushing this on us, and nobody's buying it.
All the things we talked about have come true and are happening.
We're now at this key battle point in history that your brother talked about, that I talked about, that when the crisis came, when the bankers were imploding the world economy by design to bring in their system, that was a weak point for them.
Their great moment of triumph, but also their weak point, if we point out, hey, the emperor's butt naked, this is a fraud, the emperor's new clothes, and now to really see it so viral, this idea of liberty, I mean, this shows us we can have victory.
This gives us hope.
It shows people that had kind of given up, who had been fighting for decades like yourself, not saying you ever did, that none of this was done for naught.
That the seeds we planted, that a lot of people ignored, are now sprouting in the minds of men and women everywhere.
Can you speak to just the amazing revolution of liberty and freedom we're seeing?
wayne madsen
Well, I have a book sitting in front of me that I continually to marvel and reread.
It's called The History of Our National Debt, The Coming Battle.
It's written by Lorraine and Paul Walters, and if somebody wants to, That is correct.
alex jones
That's an excellent book.
wayne madsen
And it is so enlightening that it's worth read by anybody interested in it.
I keep reading it because I learn something new every time.
alex jones
And for those that don't know, this was a guy, I read it 10 years ago when he republished it, in banking who saw all this coming and said, we're being taken over by bankers 15 years before they did it.
wayne madsen
Yeah. Speaking
alex jones
of your brother, let me ask you a question, Wayne Paul.
I challenged him about two months before he announced for president privately on the phone when he was on as a guest during the break.
I said, please run.
You got to do it just to educate the public.
You morally cannot say no.
I know you don't want to fly around and do the thousands of speeches.
I know you already have an exhausting schedule.
I know you're a real statesman.
But I said, you must run for president.
And I said, and I said, I know you're going to get attacked if you don't win later.
But I said, regardless, you'll educate a lot of people.
out of that big awakening, even bigger awakenings will happen.
And he said, no, no, that's what a lot of other people are telling me, family and others.
And he said, we'll see soon.
wayne madsen
Well, I think it all boils down to I
alex jones
want to talk more about the whole global picture with you and then take some calls, but some funny or interesting stories about your brother or your family, because people just love to hear them, that you've never told before or that you have never told on the radio before.
Some interesting stuff about the young Ron Paul.
wayne madsen
Well, I think one of the most interesting things that I think of is he used work in a drugstore.
So we called him the soda jerk of the day.
And he would use a bicycle to go a mile, work, and then come home.
And he always worked late in the evening up until 10 o'clock to close the store and then bike home.
Well, he always had a ritual in his own mind as to how quickly he could get home.
So he was always timing himself.
But one evening he was coming home and going up the hill and he was pumping so hard and so fast that he forgot to look in front of him and he ran into a parked car.
And that parked car demolished the front of his bike.
But he picked up the bike and walked the other half mile to get home.
And when he got home, his collarbone was sticking outside of his shirt.
But that's just the type of person he was.
And he wanted to make sure nobody took his bike, so he dragged it home with him.
unidentified
that's just the way he is.
wayne madsen
And most of the five of us are fairly competitive.
My oldest brother has his Ph.D.
in mathematics.
brother is the doctor of divinity.
And, of course, Ron has three different degrees in medicine.
My next brother has a doctor of divinity also.
So I have a brother who's a Lutheran minister and one that's a Presbyterian minister.
alex jones
Good quality salt of the earth, and you're a CPA, right?
wayne madsen
That's correct.
They wanted me to be an undertaker so that they could take care of everybody, bring them into the world, raise them, educate them, and I could bury them.
So we decided that if I did that, I would have a monopoly on life, and the government wouldn't let me do it.
alex jones
Just amazing stories hearing that.
Some of the family background.
Is the family on both sides German?
Where do the Pauls come from?
wayne madsen
Well, my grandfather came to this country as a 12-year-old from Germany and came after his father came here before him.
My mother was French Irish from all states for the rain, but I think it was the close-knit family and our Christian type that really was a bulwark of our life.
One of the other interesting things about my brother, and he still has it, when he first went to Congress, he bought a little Chevy Chevette to go from his apartment to Congress every day.
And that Chevette was two doors He still has it, by the way.
But there's pictures out of that Chevette next to Tip O'Neill's limousine, and he obviously was proud of showing that in his congressional office or at home.
So it was the interesting contrast between a very liberal individual spending your money and a very conservative just trying to represent you.
alex jones
Absolutely. I want to take calls in the next segment, but shifting gears in the big picture.
Eugenics. I know you study banking, the Federal Reserve, but the overall plans of the global issue.
You told me you've seen the Obama deception that you're in.
Give me your view on eugenics, the master plan, the type of people that are the collectivists, and the type of societies they build.
wayne madsen
You know, really as an illustration of what the price is to pay if we that aren't parasites don't Yes, and that's difficult to really discuss and talk about because It's
alex jones
just incredible to really see the new world order come out in the open and uncloak itself, but it's even more incredible to see the people rise against it.
It's just so exciting.
wayne madsen
Oh, I think we live in the most exciting times of our life, and I'm looking forward to it.
alex jones
We're going to come back and take two quick segments of phone calls for Wayne Paul, and we'll give out any websites or any contact info or any books you think we should read.
I am vaguely aware of it and saw a little bit of it.
wayne madsen
But I often sit back and admire my brother because he as long as you're telling the truth...
alex jones
and it's not a year putting forth the right effort but it's not that well that very long i'd like to see me and that for those that don't know we have a later is running in the tension on my job i mean his videos out now ron paul almost pops in it looks like shamsin you like here's how i do tell a cali down the road uh...
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unidentified
9-11 was an inside job.
Do you like being a puppet, sir?
Do you like being a puppet for the New World Order?
luke rudkowski
How do the American people know that 9-11 was a stage?
Was it engineered by you, David Rockefeller, the Trilateral Commission, the CFR?
unidentified
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Seven years after the attacks of September 11th, a global awakening has taken place.
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unidentified
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It seemed like yesterday, but it was long ago.
They started this fight against the Federal Reserve.
They even kidnapped congressman's kids and killed them to try to shut it down.
But here we are.
You can feel the momentum shifting.
No matter what events the private banks stage, no matter what scams they run, their days are numbered.
The momentum has shifted against them and they know their destruction, their defeat is inevitable.
Let's take a few final calls here for Wayne Paul.
Let's talk to Ronnie in Texas, Steve, J.K., Felipe, and others.
Ronnie, you're on the air with Wayne Paul.
Go ahead.
ron in texas
Thank you.
Thank you, sir.
Wayne Paul, you're number four for me.
I'm so honored to speak to you.
I spoke with, obviously, Dr. Paul and Carol and his other brother, Randy, and you.
But I have a question for you and a couple of comments.
but one of the photo that i saw while i was campaigning in iowa for dr paul with a doctor paul in a baseball uniform and i wasn't sure if he either played pro baseball or just in college Well, that was a congressional baseball game that the Congress took on, I think it was the Washington Senators, and Ron got the Astros to send him a uniform.
wayne madsen
And oddly enough, in that bowl game run, he hit a home run.
ron in texas
Well, thank you.
As you know, he's a founding father among us now, and I'm so glad that he's been The force is with him.
Yeah. And my question, my major question, though, is like you, sir, I know he is not in favor of, or I'm assuming like you, he's not in favor generally of people doing drugs, but Dr. Paul is more vehemently opposed to our own continually counterproductive war on pot smokers and hemp enthusiasts.
So equating alcohol with THC is a lie, and alcohol is, you know, with fetal alcohol syndrome, etc.
alex jones
Okay, listen, I appreciate your call.
Your comments on drug decriminalization, non-legalization like Soros wants, decriminalization so that we don't spend all our time and energy locking up people that need treatment.
unidentified
And I agree with that.
wayne madsen
I think Ron's belief and my belief are very similar in that, that that is a moral issue, that it is a personal choice of people.
It doesn't mean that we condone it.
It only means that we should help that individual so that those things do not become addictive and they do not start to control their life.
And that's an issue.
alex jones
Yeah. Hi
unidentified
there, Alex.
I'm a longtime listener, big-time fan.
Mr. Paul there, my comment is about the H.R. 2454, the Climate Change Act that just got passed there in the States.
alex jones
It hasn't passed the House, it hasn't passed the Senate.
unidentified
It hasn't yet, eh?
That was actually one of my questions.
If that does pass, I just want your listeners to know that there's a great video out there called the Great Global Warming Swindle.
And it's available on YouTube and Google Video and all those places.
alex jones
Yeah, it's free.
It's incredible.
It's called The Climatologist and Scientist.
Thank you.
I'm going to jump.
Great points.
We're going to come back in 70 seconds with Wayne Paul, Ron Paul's brother and an activist against tyranny as well.
And I guess we can say chip off the old block because he is Ron's younger brother, one of his younger brothers.
And we will ask him about the global warming tax.
unidentified
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alex jones
Alright, final minutes with Wayne Paul, a few more of your phone calls, then General Stubblebine and Dr. Gladwell will be joining us to talk about your Well, on eugenics.
Wayne, are you there?
wayne madsen
Yes, sir.
alex jones
Okay, great.
Your take on the global warming tax and eugenics.
wayne madsen
as far as global warming is concerned, Well,
alex jones
But they love these new systems that are extrajudicial outside the system, and they mean business.
Go ahead.
wayne madsen
and it's cold.
I don't have enough of your property.
I want a little bit more.
So they tried different ways to plunder your property.
And that's in effect.
alex jones
And then look at government being the biggest polluter out there.
Absolutely. I mean, this is, like, CPS is five to seven times more likely, depending on what state, to abuse your children than the most dangerous people out there, so they're the ones that watch the kids.
I mean, give me a break.
Every pedophile in the world wants to be a CPS worker.
I mean, put two and two together, of course.
Jay in Oregon, last caller for our guest, Wayne Paul, Ron Paul's brother.
Go ahead.
unidentified
Hi, Wayne.
wayne madsen
Hi, Jay.
unidentified
Actually, I got two parts of a question, two questions for you.
Go ahead.
Question one.
How do you reconcile the cognitive dissonance of working to quell what you guys are calling the rise of the one world government, one world economy, one world currency, when it's clear in the word of God that this is going to happen?
alex jones
Yeah, it was clear in 70 AD.
They thought it was the end of the world.
And when Jerusalem was sacked, they thought it was the end of the world.
And Hitler was killing people.
You've got all these different empires.
How do you reconcile in the word of God that it's our job to fight evil, whatever the cost may be?
It's not to us to choose.
It's us to do the right thing.
Duty is ours.
Consequence belongs to God.
I mean, is that what you're saying?
unidentified
Well, Alex, I know your position real well.
I was asking Mr. Paul.
alex jones
Okay, go ahead.
We'll let you go.
Mr. Paul, go ahead.
wayne madsen
The answer to that question is, it doesn't change my Christian obligation as to how I live and how I am a steward of the property I've been entrusted with.
And regardless of what may be God's will, I been instructed by the Word to live a life stewardship life in terms of the property I have, in terms of the people I associate with, my peer group.
And my responsibility is to do it according to God's Word, and God's going to take care of the rest of the things.
So I'm not going to worry about it.
I still have to fight the battle that the Federal Reserve System is an evil system and needs to be abolished.
It doesn't change that fact.
alex jones
Yeah, it was the pastors that led the Revolutionary War against England, and a few of the pastors did say it's God's will, lay down Romans 13 out of context.
Look at the prophets, look at the whole Bible.
It's about standing up against evil and fighting evil.
Callers, does that answer your question, Jay?
unidentified
It does enough.
Thank you.
alex jones
You bet.
I mean, these devil churches funded by the Rockefellers publicly, World Council of Churches, are telling people stand down.
And, uh, it's incredible.
Wayne Paul, amazing having you on.
Thank you.
wayne madsen
Thank you.
I appreciate it.
alex jones
We appreciate you being on, and he's in the Obama Deception, folks.
Let me say bye to you during the break, Wayne.
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Well, joining us from the United Kingdom I think so.
Head, science czar, writing an internal government textbook, 1100 pages, on how to carry out a world government eugenics extermination plan.
This is confirmation of everything we've reverse-engineered.
State Department memorandum 200.
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And it's just devastating, because, you know, Even though I know all this stuff, you don't want to believe they're actually doing it.
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It's coming up.
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That is correct.
alex jones
Okay, we're going to go to you in a second, sir, and we appreciate you joining us on the interview today.
Let's go to your wife, the medical doctor first, in light of, give us your perspective, and then I want to get the General's perspective, on the Mass Eugenics Plan.
We have right of self-defense.
This is a government-level PhD textbook for government leaders, for policy.
I've now read over 400 pages of the 1100.
Total nightmare.
Doctor, this is exactly what you've been saying for decades.
Break down what this new development means, then we'll get the General's take and then we'll expand out into what this flu vaccination means.
rima laibow
I'm happy to do that, Alex, and I want you to know that both the General and I are happy and privileged Thank you for the opportunity to talk to you and your listeners about this.
This is a critical time and the first thing I want to do is start at the very end.
The very end is unless you, listeners, take action now, you will be faced with involuntary detention or mandatory vaccination with an attenuated live virus vaccine.
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And now to answer your question, Alex, because that's the bottom line, the answer is yes, the vaccine against this genetically engineered, weaponized HIV virus We're good to
go. We're going, if we're sheeple, we're going to line up, roll up our sleeves, present our children for vaccination the way 40 million Americans did in 10 weeks during the swine flu debacle in 1976.
Only this time, they won't stop it after 10 weeks, because the intention, we firmly believe, based on Holder's document and on other information, We've been talking about it for years, and we've been talking about you, and the General and I have had the chance to talk about it on this show and on others, and we've been writing about it for years that you have.
This time, the intention is to get rid of us profitably.
The amount of money that is being poured into the coffers of the world's pharmaceutical companies is absolutely unholy.
as is the intent.
In fact, today, the World Health Organization put out, I'm sorry, yesterday, the World Health Organization put out a press release saying that what we need for this and the coming pandemic, because remember, Alex, this vaccine is not the last pandemic vaccine.
It's the first of many, many, many, many horrors to come until they've gotten rid of all of us.
This is what's needed.
We need many new vaccines.
I'm sorry.
alex jones
Well, if you look how they ramp it up, they admittedly are testing global level six with all the major nation states under the direction of the World Health Organization, this global directorate, and so it's kind of like a Jim Jones Kool-Aid drinking drill, where they drill following orders and taking the poison, and they admit...
Well, I mean, you've looked at this, Doctor, and I want to get General Stubblebine's take on it.
What is the history of these companies?
We know that Baxter, I just put it on screen, London Telegraph, Actually, I believe the trials were done by Novartis,
rima laibow
and I believe that they were in conjunction with Sanofi Aventis, the good people who manufactured an avian flu vaccine, which the United States bought 800 million doses of in their first order, Totally untested, untried, but approved by the FDA.
alex jones
Well, that's the thing.
They're on our news here in Austin saying everybody's got to take the shot, get ready.
They're on the news saying it will be mandatory coming up in the fall.
It will be a pandemic.
It will be mass death.
And then people are lining up and they're saying, oh, we don't even know if this is the right thing and just taking the shot.
What do we know from past operations, Dr. Labo and then General Stubblebine about what they're putting in these vaccines?
rima laibow
Well, they're putting Adjuvants are substances and the ones that we're most familiar with are the ones based on squalene, which is a fat ordinarily found in the nervous system.
Now when you eat squalene or you rub it on your skin and it's used in a lot of cosmetics, it doesn't do anything bad to you.
But if you inject it, it trains the immune system's white cells to attack And then this,
alex jones
according to other doctors we've had on, accelerates the allergies, the sicknesses, the cancers, and makes your immune system go haywire.
I want to talk about that more.
We're about to go to break.
You were just on six, seven months ago before this whole flu thing came up, and you guys were talking about when they try to launch a pandemic, don't take the shot.
What does this look like to you?
unidentified
Well, it's very clear, you know, what Dr. Rima and I have been doing.
Alex has been watching very carefully a whole lot of information.
And I call them dots.
They're tidbits of information.
But it's part of the way I have been trained from the intelligence world or in the intelligence world of how you put the picture together.
And what you do is you take little bits of information.
For instance, 11 people died instantaneously in a trial in Poland and then 22 more died later.
From the same vaccine that you're about to take.
And then you take the information about Baxter, which contaminated the vaccines for 22 different countries or 18 different countries in Europe.
You put all of these various dots together like that, and what you end up with is a picture.
Suddenly the picture flies into your face, and you say, holy smokes, now I take this to the people who are called operational folks because they're the people that do the planning of what you do about it.
So the intelligence piece of all of this has been creating this enormous picture that you now have seen the documentation for.
Stay there.
alex jones
We've got to break, General.
Please come right back with this.
And we'll get the doctor's comments on this.
Absolutely. We now have the full text.
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And this is a new one.
No. And so it's not the flu you worry about, it's the shot.
unidentified
Continue. That's
alex jones
how COINTELPRO works.
They can't believe we have a Ron Paul.
They can't believe we have a General Stubblebine.
They can't believe that there's good people from powerful positions that are stepping up.
And that's what COINTELPRO does.
But regardless, we're putting out the facts.
We're doing the best we can.
People can listen or they can go ahead and take the shots.
unidentified
No, but at this stage of the game, they better goddamn listen, otherwise, excuse my language, but they better listen, otherwise, they're gonna be in deep trouble.
You have now seen, for a fact, I mean, you've believed all along, Alex, now you understand exactly because you've seen the document.
You've seen the blueprint for what all of this is about.
rima laibow
Let me read to you the CDC assumptions that they're basing their targeting on, okay?
Yeah, they're saying for sure they know this, but with regular flu, they go a million Americans have it, like we're all gonna die.
alex jones
That just means we have the virus, no big deal.
They're clearly engaged in lying and fear-mongering.
The question is why?
rima laibow
W.H.O.
has said for decades, and the United States government has accepted for decades, that their first priority for a, quote, sustainable planet is the same as the Illuminati and Bilderberger agenda, which is massive depopulation.
The Georgia Guidestones pretty well say it all.
I don't know who put them up.
I don't know what their deal was.
But they do want to reduce the population by a minimum of 80 percent and a maximum of 90 percent.
9 out of every 10 humans on the planet is slated to go.
But as long as we're going, they say, why don't we just pump untold amounts of the remaining money, such as it is, the worthless money that's been degraded by the, if you will, the economic pandemic that's been engineered, why don't we just pump all the remaining money into their hands through the diseases that they will cause and through the unbelievable Okay.
alex jones
Well, Doctor, we've got a long segment coming up.
This was the short one, so we've got plenty of time for both you and General Stubblebine to break this down and what you're recommending we do and how we get this to the floor, you know, to say, look, we're not going to take forced injections because under the executive order that they've activated, as you know, the public may not.
They're now saying forced inoculations under level six, quarantining, lockdown, basically code red.
But General, briefly, Get in China!
A lot of experts are saying, binary weapon.
For those that don't know, meaning, this gives you half of it, they then trigger through water or air, something else later.
unidentified
Well, you know, we know pieces of what are in the vaccine.
we absolutely do not know the entire menu that's in that vaccine.
One thing is for sure, you can rest assured, since this vaccine is being put there on purpose to give you as an excuse to give you the shot, you know that what's going to be in there and what's going to be in your body is not going to fit in your body very nicely.
alex jones
Stay there.
unidentified
Stay there, doctor.
alex jones
We got a break.
Long segment coming up.
General, stay there.
Absolutely. And a lot of experts we've talked to, genetic engineers, say a lot of these cancer viruses they implant trigger later.
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Okay, we've got General Stubblebine and his wife, Dr. Rimalevo.
You've got the floor here.
Continue breaking down then, because you got interrupted by some breaks.
Start over, break down the intelligence we have on these vaccines, what we know.
I mean, it's just like Gardasil in Middle East killing a whole bunch of women and girls, having weird autoimmune diseases where the others were almost like Ebola, where blood's coming out of all these orifices.
It's paralyzing people, and it's like they're testing soft kills, testing the media's response, testing the public.
I don't know what you'd call that, General, in a military fashion, but just like before they invaded Panama, they would have the helicopters land and do drills for six months to where they were acclimated.
So they just acclimate us now to the ambient soft kill, silent weapons, quiet wars.
Let's get the General's take on that and then the doctor breaking down what she sees happening here, how we get Congress to say no and to like override the executive order because they've now engaged level six.
The question is, will they implement?
So General, what do you call this soft kill system where They're increasing the deadliness of the vaccines, openly killing us.
Death to the left, death to the right, and everyone just marching in, injecting their children.
unidentified
Well, I'm not sure that I know the military terminology for this kind of soft kill, but it's like guerrilla warfare because it's kind of behind the scenes.
It's hidden.
You know, if you're doing guerrilla warfare, you cannot go out into the middle of the street with your gun.
You do it from an ambush position.
So it's always hidden.
Well, there's not any difference between what is happening now and guerrilla warfare.
Against all population.
That's exactly what's happening, Alex.
Go ahead.
alex jones
No, you can just see them rolling out the total PSYOP for a non-event flu and then now saying we're all basically dead in the fall.
Take the shot with their history of radiating foster children.
Black men and syphilis.
Project Shad.
How would anyone in their right mind take anything they try to give us?
rima laibow
They're not in their right mind, Alex.
unidentified
They've been propagandized.
rima laibow
been propagandized, they've been fluoridated, they've been controlled.
What percentage of the American population is on psychoactive medication?
Twenty percent.
It's horrendously high and that means that people can be controlled.
That's part of the soft kill and it's been going on for a long, long time.
I want to remind people that the very first vaccine, Edward Jenner's vaccine for smallpox, was literally a vaccine for syphilis because it spread syphilis and by the mid-1990s, I think?
that they had created a syphilis epidemic.
So they did an investigation.
They held an inquiry, and they discovered that they had two choices.
Choice one, admit it.
They would have egg all over their faces and take responsibility for the fact that they had killed and maimed and sentenced to death millions of people through this hastily entered into scientific fraud, which is what vaccination is, or do a cover-up.
They did a cover-up, of course.
They chose a cover-up, and they doubled Edward Jenner's lifelong stipend from 10,000 pounds, I think this was about 1853, to 22.
No, I believe that in fact this was a colossal Dupidity on the part of the British Parliament.
And that they chose to save their own egos and careers, rather than back down from the position they have been in.
alex jones
Look at the 76 swine flu.
This always breaks out, the 1918, the 1976.
It's always breaking out at military bases.
rima laibow
Oddly enough.
Where our soldiers are our guinea pigs.
unidentified
Guess who gets to hold up their arm and unclothe their arm and stand there and stick it out so that somebody will stick a needle in it?
And they have no choice.
rima laibow
Same with vaccine A.
I want to point out that the same information that Gary Matsumoto so beautifully brought forward in his Vaccine A and the subtitle of that book was why the United States is experimenting on the military and why they won't be the last.
He talked about squalene adjuvants.
He talked about introducing oils that irritate the immune system so they make more antibodies.
That means the expensive part of the vaccine, the antigen, can be in much, much, much smaller proportions, so it's more profitable for the company.
And then you make more antigens.
That means that you have a higher antigen titer in your body.
alex jones
So it's that accelerant that triggers the autoimmune response.
Exactly. uh...
the other medical doctors we've had on a shed that's the thing of causing That's right.
rima laibow
No one, and I say this as a scientist and as a physician, no one has ever proven in any clinical trial whatsoever that that high titer, that high level of antibodies is related in any way with immunity to the disease.
Ever. So this whole thing is pointless.
unidentified
You understand?
alex jones
It's quackery, it's quackery.
unidentified
Total quackery.
alex jones
Okay, doctor and general, from a military perspective, intelligence perspective, from a medical doctor perspective, You've got all these deaths all over Europe and Asia in swine flu and bird flu trials High death rates where they inject a hundred people in it, you know a whole bunch of them drop dead We wouldn't put mainstream news articles on screen and then the media is very quiet The government even indicts people who gave the shot saying they were paid by pharmaceutical companies But then we can't ever find who they are and then we've got Baxter involved in the new vaccine that they're
involved and i mean what does this look like to you and then and then how are you coming out and saying look out with this next flu shot that's coming out um it looks let me know let me answer that first okay general i'll tell you what it looks
unidentified
like an ambush you know if you're in a in a city or a town and you're going door to door in uh fighting you never know where the ambush is going to come from is it going to come from
a roof from a window from a door from behind the door you don't know and this whole thing uh alex is to me looks exactly like that uh uh door-to-door fighting in towns called
alex jones
ambush ambush that's what it is but this time the ambush is by our own forces against our own people well we can see that the whole thing's engineered we can see it's all hype and the vaccine's deadly and they admit won't even protect you from it
and normally flus mutate into something less harmful or harmless how are they saying a hundred percent it's going to mutate deadly in the fall now we're not saying that's going to happen they're saying it i mean for anybody with a scientific background doctor in general it's 101 that they can't say they know
it's going to be deadly that clearly is a lie so it means that they know something we don't know are they going to release something else it's a lie unless they know something that has never been told to the public well now i want to i want to avoid giving these too much
rima laibow
credit sars fizzled avian flu fizzled the uh pandemic swine flu fizzled they may or may not be able to get the next generation of this uh
this virus this genetically engineered virus to do what they want which is kill lots of us but it doesn't matter because they've got the vaccine which is much more direct much more effective now listen up folks which is the ambush which is the ambush
if a single person and by the way let me let me reiterate i was starting to read this before the first target is children from kindergarten to 12th grade the second target is pregnant women the third
child the third target is adults between 45 and 65 that's the most productive segment of the workforce these are the people who are going to receive the vaccines and there are many of them just to back you up with She's not just saying this.
alex jones
The news has announced children first, then the elderly, then the sick.
These are the most vulnerable and they admit...
rima laibow
The second group is pregnant women.
Now I want to add one more thing, Alex, because there's so much to say and time is so short.
alex jones
Yeah, go ahead.
I'm going to go ahead.
rima laibow
If Gardasil does what I believe Gardasil does and Servivax, which is the British equivalent of Gardasil, which is about to be also approved in the United States shortly, if these two vaccines do what I believe, which is render girls infertile, there's no reason to believe.
Oh, yes, there's no reason to believe that this new vaccine, for which Baxter applied for the patent in 2007, by the way, so this surprise rush to get things on the street, so to speak, is total hype and nonsense, because they've been preparing this since 2007.
If it does the same thing and it contains one of the same ingredients, tween, T-W-E-E-N-80, which is very similar to polysorbate-80, and both of them injected cause infertility, then what we have is not only death, but an end of whatever race you happen to believe.
alex jones
Let me stop you.
Doctor, my gut from all these hundreds of pieces that the General talks about is sterilization, because that's in the State Department memorandum 200, that's in the White House Czar's internal textbook plan report, and we know where the tetanus shots in Africa, Asia, and India, they got caught in the mid-90s.
This is mainstream news for those that don't know.
I know you know.
Adding a hormone to the tetanus shot to then cause an autoimmune response to that hormone and then basically sterilize women by abortion where every time they get pregnant the baby dies second trimester from that hormone situation.
rima laibow
And by the way, that same system which was created by the World Health Organization through its task force on female sterilization Well, I've seen U.S. programs and TV ads where they tell girls, get your tetanus shot.
alex jones
It's obvious!
I mean, Dr., I want you to keep breaking down the math and the science and the facts and the key, pens and paper ready, the websites for folks, so people can get involved with Congress saying now, We're not going to quarantine.
We're not taking your shots.
Let us stay in our homes.
don't make the army drag us off but general speaking to the military the police back in two thousand two with the model states health emergency powers act you know they ordered first responders to take it and the news reported l_a_ times over ninety nine percent said no so the military police aren't stupid they've had bases saying no even though they were ordering them to but the firemen the police the doctors tommy thompson said no help the human services had Basic psychology.
This attacks all of us.
It's a very tiny eugenicist elite doing this.
So we need to get the message out to the enforcers, too.
Why would they want to serve this evil?
I mean, can you comment to this phenomenon of the very people being killed by this are the very ones that are going to be enforcing it?
unidentified
Well, a lot of that is simply because once you enter into the military, you know, the answer is yes, sir, yes, sir, no, sir, yes, sir.
And everybody does exactly what they're told to do.
So if the people at the very, very top know, but the people at the lower levels do not know what's really going on, they're there to take orders.
And it's very, very hard to sort of wake yourself up when you're in the middle of this, yes, sir, no, sir, I will do it, sir, kind of environment.
So it's very, very difficult to also then go to the Internet, go to the, it's not in the papers.
So where do they get their information?
They've got to wake up almost all by themselves.
A very difficult thing to do.
rima laibow
And the people who are putting out the information, Alex, and there's a small community of us, are attacked by this COINTELPRO nonsense.
And then people who want to do the right thing, who want to inform themselves, say, well, I better stay away from him, I better stay away from her, I better stay away from them.
alex jones
That's done to destroy our community.
The last thing the new order would do would be to have you guys out putting out nothing but accurate info and warning people they would have you out saying it wasn't true and again they do this to balkanize us, they do this to break up our base.
I have a 2004 army manual that's declassified on how to do this to indigenous groups.
rima laibow
Exactly. Now I want to give you the action step and if you don't take this and if you don't Yes, if you don't do this, then when they come at you with a vaccine needle and your children, and they say, okay, either bear your arm or go into detention, remember that you had the choice and you didn't take it.
I want you to go to www.healthfreedomusa.org.
On the right-hand side, it says, But
we need millions, not hundreds of thousands!
And what this is saying is, oh no you don't.
This is pushback.
Because remember, a lot of state legislators and a lot of congressmen don't have the information you do.
So instead of arguing with them about vaccines are good, vaccines are bad, the WHO is the new world order, forget that.
What we're saying is, I want a third pass.
Pass one, take the shot.
past two except incarceration in state or federal facilities past three i go into my house i shut the door i stay there and yeah the kids might get bored get them some extra books the point is well the last place you want to go during any time you're a medical doctor and get the generals take on this the last place you want to go
during a pandemic is some big mass camp now let me take you back to the videos of the 500,000 which is only a small part the 500,000 three-person disposable caskets that are stockpiled outside of Atlanta and we know that there's stock Alabama, Georgia, Texas, Colorado, they're everywhere.
alex jones
No, we got the official state documents telling the cemeteries, don't tell anybody.
Can you bury 200,000 people on your little plot?
We have the document.
unidentified
Exactly. And you won't even get your own coffin.
rima laibow
And now ask yourself, what's that for?
Is that when I die from the vaccine?
Can I die from the secondary soft kill?
Because a lot of these vaccines are being produced on simian cells that we know contain leukemia viruses.
Is that what you want?
alex jones
Just like SV40, they admitted to having cancer viruses and over 100 million Americans got it.
This is unbelievable.
General Stubblebine is our guest.
Dr. Lebo is our guest.
This is just blowing me away.
They're openly announcing mass graves.
Martial law.
It doesn't mean it's going to happen.
This could just be a beta test, but we gotta take it very, very serious.
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We'll see if General Stubblebine and Dr. Labo can stay 10 minutes into the next hour.
I've got a meeting I've got to go to after that, so I couldn't do it any longer.
I'll ask him on air right now.
Can you guys do 10 minutes into the next hour?
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You bet your bottom dollar.
Awesome, sir.
rima laibow
And I want to share something with you that just came into my email box, Alex.
It seems that there is a health reform bill, a health care bill, which will fund state vaccine teams to conduct interventions, quote, quote, in private homes.
Now, this bill says that it will allow, quote, authorizes a demonstration program to improve immunization coverage.
Under the program, CDC will provide grants to states to improve immunization coverage of children, adolescents, and adults through the use of evidence-based intervention.
alex jones
Yes, here's the article.
They're now going to send CPS to adult and children's homes.
Cyber news service, very credible.
They have links to the documents.
Zoom in on this.
This ties into the FEMA camp bill.
Zoom in on this for folks.
I meant to get to this.
This is the type of news I have stacked up.
This is up on Infowars.com right now.
Healthcare bill will fund state vaccine teams to conduct interventions in private homes.
So they're now preparing To make everything mandatory, just like Rick Perry saying it's the law, you gotta take Gardasil, when it killed a bunch of girls and women in the trials, and it's still killing people.
General Stubblebine, in plain view, they're now making people take things that kill them.
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Well, the answer is that's yes.
And look at all of the soldiers who step up in the line and say, yeah, shoot me.
You know, shoot me with a shot or shoot me with a shotgun.
rima laibow
And once again, get court-martialed if they don't.
I'm going to say it again, Alex.
Listen, folks.
Get a pen.
Get a pencil.
If you're on the Internet right now, type in to the address bar, www.healthfreedomusa.org.
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on the first item to tell people who can make the difference, who can respond to your pushback, that you want the right to go into your home without being molested or violated by goons, government goons bearing vaccines.
alex jones
Well, I mean, that's why they've been GPSing everybody's doors and they've now admitted it's for the quarantines.
I mean, they really, General, Isn't this just the perfect cover even if they don't launch a bio-attack?
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Absolutely yes!
alex jones
A perfect color for martial law and federalization.
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Absolutely. They find, incidentally, I had forgotten for a moment the fact that they know where every door is, where every family lives, so they can go to that door.
If you've decided not to take a shot, they can go knock on your door and say, well, now just give me your arm here.
rima laibow
Let me explain that they have targeted children first.
Let me also remind you, and you may be one of the people who actually had this happen, that the CDC has been calling people, the CDC is a unit of the Health and Human Services, Yeah, we confirmed that.
alex jones
Asking if their vaccines are up to date.
I'm getting all these calls from listeners and I googled it and I saw a news article where they are calling.
See, it's actually happening.
Stay there.
We're talking about we're going to overdrive.
So one minute break, General and Doctor.
One minute break as we end the main radio show and then internet only.
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It's already the final hour of this Thursday edition.
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We have some really big guests coming up tomorrow.
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For the next 60 minutes, we're joined by the makers of Anthrax War, a film by Bob Cohen, Cone, and Eric Nadler.
The untold story of the 2001 Anthrax attacks and the dark secrets of the hidden world of modern-day germ war research.
And yesterday is what the anniversary...
Uh, of the latest Patsy, but the other Patsy's exposed that they were Patsy's, it was made up.
They went ahead and murdered this Patsy, killed him with drugs in a mental institution, but didn't say in the news that the government had grabbed him and done this.
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We actually know who mailed out the anthrax, but they're a foreign national intelligence agent, so they can't be messed with.
First, the FBI said it was brewed up in somebody's basement, then it was the most, then it came out as the most weaponized U.S. government version out there.
But this covers the history of it and so much more.
They got incredible interviews with government officials, you name it, in this film.
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Okay, let's go ahead and go to Bob Cohn and Eric Nadler.
Gentlemen, we've got you via video link.
Where are you joining us from?
bob coen
We're in New York City, Alex.
Great to be with you.
alex jones
Yeah, you guys, it looks good.
I love this technology getting better and better.
Here we are, reaching millions of people on the audio and the video, and here we are talking to you in New York.
Good to have you here with us.
eric nadler
Thank you, Alex.
alex jones
Okay, we're about to break, come back, and some stations join us, but how did you get into the whole Anthrax story as filmmakers?
What made you decide to go on this dangerous mission?
eric nadler
Well, we lived here, Alex.
We lived here in New York when the anthrax letters were delivered.
And basically, the 9-11 attacks plus the anthrax letters was a one-two punch against the republic as we saw it.
And we're sophisticated Thank you.
the biggest story uh...
what could possibly investigate the largest serial killing uh...
that the f_b_i_ uh...
wouldn't uh...
really solve For six, seven to eight years.
And when they finally did say they solved it, it was so clearly a patsy that they put down that it was an insult to our intelligence as mainstream journalists.
And thus, we had to, like, continue the investigation on our own.
alex jones
Yeah, in fact, you guys have worked for CNN, Rolling Stone, you name it.
You guys are award-winning journalists and filmmakers.
Previously to this, you bring a lot of research and And gravitas to this, so when we go to break here in about 30 seconds, I'm going to come back, introduce you to the full audience.
Some stations don't carry the first five-minute segment, and we will continue laying out this saga.
But folks, I'm telling you, this film is a barn burner, and everybody you know needs to see it.
Because it opens up a whole world of Bioshield, and the 36 bioweapons labs, and the vaccines, and who these people are.
This is a film that can really wake people up.
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alex jones
Anthrax war, the untold story of the 2001 anthrax attacks, and the dark secrets of the hidden world of modern-day germ warfare research.
We have two amazing investigative journalists with us who made this film.
I tried to read their whole bios.
We ran out of time, but Bob Cohn is a filmmaker, journalist, and war correspondent whose work is always focused on uncovering hidden truths.
He was based in Africa for 15 years.
I'd like to get him on, just talk about those adventures and perspective.
And was a correspondent for CNN International, and he has received major prizes for best television war correspondent, reporting from Liberia.
He also made award-winning films, which include Mozambique, Struggle for Survival, Angola, Triumph or Tragedy, and Blood and Memory has been broadcast on CNN International, National Geographic, PBS, and Channel 4 UK, among others.
Eric Nadler is an author, TV producer, and filmmaker.
He has written for Rolling Stone, Mother Jones, Harper's, New Republic, and has had his films been featured in PBS, Sundance Channel, Court TV, United States, and broadcast internationally.
He's produced several PBS frontline programs, including BCCI, Bank of Crooks, and Criminals.
Gotta get him on about that, Clark Clifford.
And The Secret, Well, you know, the film...
bob coen
began with those anthrax attacks, Alex.
And we all remember how, you know, just weeks after 9-11, these anthrax letters happened, and they caused panic all across the country, all across the world.
And, you know, it was in the headlines, people were buying Cipro, and then after about two months or so, it started fading.
The FBI started focusing on one culprit, And, uh, nothing seemed to be happening with the FBI investigation.
And we were convinced that to really understand the anthrax attacks, we had to take a look at this world of germ war research, uh, here in the United States and internationally.
And that's what we did with this film.
We started looking into this, uh, secret world of germ weapons to try and understand the anthrax attacks.
alex jones
Again, that voice or that person you see at PrisonPlanet.tv is Bob Cohn.
Eric, obviously you already knew Mr. Cohn.
You got into this the same way?
How did you guys approach this?
I mean, obviously you learned more as you investigated, or were you aware of this when you got into it, the darker ramifications?
eric nadler
Well, Bob and I had a personal relationship for many years in terms of years ago the program called south african now in the final days of the apartheid regime a few network producers uh...
got together and were very concerned how uh...
that censorship restrictions were being put on american networks and thus the actual coverage of the south african situation as the white regime uh...
collapsed Uh, really, uh, fed less and less, less and less into the, um, network news, uh, budget.
And, uh, there were some people who, uh, got together and said to PBS, can we get together and keep the South Africa issue on the front lines?
And that's where I met Bob.
Bob was a great, uh, correspondent for CNN.
And, uh, I was a, uh, freelance journalist here in the United States.
When it came time for the anthrax attacks, It struck me in a very deep position.
I had never seen a more serious story disappear so quickly from the mainstream news media.
Uh, without, uh, much questioning.
Uh, in other words, everyone talked about 9-11.
Yes, that was the most serious story you could ever do.
Uh, and there were anniversaries about 9-11, and beautiful documentaries with shining lights into the sky.
But when it came to the anthrax attacks, there was silence.
And the anthrax attacks, as we say in our film, Anthrax War, uh, was a one-two punch against the Republic.
9-11 was the, you know, the left jab and the anthrax attacks was the right cross and people didn't remember that really knockout punch.
Look, my wife works in Rockefeller Center in New York and she remembered the planes flying.
She heard them, the planes flying toward the World Trade Center that terrible morning.
She heard that and she's a tough gal, but Where she really lost it was when they opened up anthrax envelopes in the media center next door to her.
And she screamed to me over the phone, the first time I heard this tough feminist lawyer woman scream to me, Eric, we gotta buy Cipro!
And I knew some line had been crossed that some terrorism had been done fundamentally upon educated media government people.
And I said to myself, yikes, the anthrax attacks, that's the most important piece of business.
And if you remember, it went silent for many years.
And then Bob, I'd worked with years earlier, had come to me after we had not been with each other for a while.
He was in Africa, I was in New York.
He came to me and said, Eric, what's up with these anthrax attacks?
And I said, you know, Bob, I think this is the most serious thing that we as investigative journalists can take a look at.
Let's be independent.
Let's see what's really going on here.
And that became the genesis of our investigation.
alex jones
Again, you guys are joining us, not just on the radio, but live in living color from New York at prisonplanet.tv.
The film is Anthrax War.
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Again, you can also get the film there or at infowars.com.
Now, this film needs to be seen.
Gentlemen, let's start getting into the evidence of this being a cover-up, but just briefly mentioning what happened at that time.
I was obviously glued to television and radio covering the 9-11 attacks myself.
And 9-11 kind of built its peak of hysteria, and then suddenly the anthrax, and for a week or two, it was as big as the 9-11 attacks, and they were taking over the Capitol, and the federal government, the executive was ordering the Capitol evacuated,
which was a violation of the separation of powers, and Democratic enemies were getting sent anthrax, and people that had taken photos of the Bush daughters in Austin falling down on each other drunk in a provocative pose We're getting the letters and it was clearly meant to blame it on Muslims and the FBI said this is run-of-the-mill No big deal, but I had bioweapons experts on saying this is incredibly deadly Only Russia the United States and England can make it this deadly then it turned out.
It was the super miniaturized with the bentonite Magnetized I mean it was the special You know, sci-fi grade, U.S. signature, and of course the film covers that, and then the different Patsys, and then murdering a Patsy, and they finally got a Patsy they could shut up, because, you know, the last two Patsys were proven innocent.
So let's go over that, but, I mean, you guys are journalists, TV guys, you were there at the time.
Was it for a week or so, the anthrax as big as 9-11, and then, it's like it never happened?
bob coen
Absolutely. I mean, you know, this was our Sort of scariest nightmare come to life.
The attack of invisible germs.
You know, this is something you do not see.
These were, you know, who sent it?
It went through the mail.
This is an attack against all of us because it was sent through the mail.
This is going to have gone to everybody.
alex jones
Everybody gets the mail.
The perfect psychology.
bob coen
and at some ways it also on our fears that had been tickled let's say by so many of these hollywood movies about uh...
you know bio attacks but here was know real life and uh...
so yeah of course huge panic across the U.S., across the globe, there were copycat attacks.
You know, Cipro, this antibiotic that was the treatment for anthrax, their stocks went through the roof.
People were buying Cipro.
But as you said, Alex, you know, after a couple of weeks of being in the headlines, the story faded.
The FBI announced it had this huge investigation, but it's pretty quickly seen that that investigation was uh...
not going anywhere mean they had they had a so-called person of interest uh...
this army scientist by the name of steven hatfield and very early on the fbi were convinced that they could blame it on one person who was a lone gunman you know there was just one person behind this uh...
and that's one of things that we decided to look at we said well actually You know, it's much bigger than this.
We've actually got to look at this from an international perspective, because, you know, the kind of anthrax that was sent, especially to Congress, was very, very sophisticated.
When the FBI scientists examined the anthrax that was used in the attacks against the congressmen, That anthrax, when they examined it in the lab, in this BSL-3 lab, high containment lab, they put it on a microscope and the anthrax actually lifted up and floated into the air.
And the scientists had never seen any anthrax of this magnitude.
Sophistication ever before.
So this was super sophisticated anthrax, and it really meant that this had come out of a state-sponsored program.
alex jones
That's right.
I mean, it was a U.S. government weapons train.
It was miniaturized.
It was magnetized.
It was coated in bentonite.
It was made to float around.
eric nadler
Well, uh, the thing was, the original report said it was coated in bentonite, and that was put to work by...
So that's right.
It is wrong, and it was put forth by ABC News correspondent Brian Ross.
There was no bentonite in that, but it was very useful because U.S. intelligence had identified bentonite as an additive that the Iraqis had.
So you see how the administration began to say, There's an Iraqi connection because of this bentonite connection.
alex jones
We'll stay there, gentlemen.
I want to go over this.
I want to go over this anthrax war.
We've got to go to break.
When we come back, I want to go over the evidence that it's an inside job or a cover-up.
But also, what were the motives?
Was it an aborted false flag to blame Iraq?
Where did the trail lead?
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alex jones
No doubt, this is an inside job.
And then the question is, what's the motive?
And this film is really well done.
Everybody needs to see Anthrax War.
I mean, the White House, Ari Fleischer admitting that much of the White House was on Cipro starting September 10th through the attacks, but nobody else was when they knew it was going to be going through the Capitol mail system and some of it to the White House.
I mean, this is really, really suspicious.
But that's only one area.
Going back to our guests, the makers of Anthrax War, Bob Cohn and Eric Nadler, you guys know how to tell this story best.
You guys have got the floor.
This is a short segment.
Long one's coming up.
Run through what the film covers, the evidence, and bottom line, what your conclusion is, what the Anthrax attacks really were in Anthrax War.
eric nadler
Well, the deal is one has to look at who benefited and who gained ultimately from the anthrax attacks.
When the FBI named lone mailman Bruce Ivins as their guy, they said he had a profit motive.
$2,000 government contracts or whatever to get the anthrax vaccine that he was working on in Fort Detrick, Maryland.
To be reinvigorated and put forth for the U.S. military troops.
We asked a legitimate question.
If they're saying profit motive for a lone gunman, who really made money off his attacks?
And we have to be careful here.
We're not really pointing any fingers, but we're suggesting that one looks at what is the real legacy We're
good to go!
Who's making the money?
Who's making the 50 to 60 billion dollars?
And once the FBI lets the profit motive as the attack lay into Ivan's, we think that's a real legitimate place to look.
And in the book, we spend a lot of time looking at very politically wired corporations that have Benefited, no doubt, through government contracts in the government response to the anthrax attacks.
alex jones
Absolutely. In fact, expanding on that, and I want Mr. Cohn's take on this as well, and of course yours, Mr. Nadler, is, as you said, 50 plus billion dollars for BioShield and other programs leveled for bioweapons labs in major cities,
expanding the U.S. bioweapons program, Absolutely.
bob coen
And certainly that has been one concrete result of the anthrax attacks, is the birth of what we describe as the biotech.
bioterror military industrial complex and the the the other troubling thing about all this is that what used to be the domain of secret government programs is now privatized so we have private corporations who are doing this classified research uh...
that's going on in private labs in university labs in private research foundations all around the country People have no idea what's going on in those labs.
There's very little oversight, and because a lot of this is actually private, there's really no way of finding out what's going on in those labs, because a lot of that is protected by trade secrets.
So, there are a lot of very, very troubling questions.
A lot of experts, scientists that we spoke to all around the world were very, very concerned about all this because we have to remember one thing in the world of germ weapons there's very little difference the line between what is offensive uh...
bioweapons research and defensive research is very blurry we have to remember offensive biological weapons are actually outlawed by international treaties only defensive research is allowed but in order to develop We got a great long segment coming up.
alex jones
Plenty of time for both of you to go through this story.
But I don't want to miss the elephant in the room here.
The government of the United States, England, you name it, have been caught over and over again testing radiologicals, chemicals, biologicals on their own populations, including lethal pathogens on foster children, veterans, military, minorities. We're on the march, the Empire's on the run.
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Ladies and gentlemen, they launched the anthrax attacks.
They used it to pass the Patriot Act.
All these political enemies of Bush get hit with it.
Bush is on Cipro before 9-11 with the White House staff.
This film is so important.
It's Anthrax War, a film by Bob Cohn and Eric Nadler.
We have it discounted out of the gates.
Just came out.
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We hope everybody gets it and shows it to people because this is just more evidence of the people running our system are not very friendly or not very nice.
And it's a gateway into a whole larger world.
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You were trying to say something, Mr. Nadler, one of the filmmakers, as we went to break.
Go ahead.
eric nadler
Well, basically, I can't recall the exact point, but I like to pick up on your point that there is a permanent government that will not go beyond the official narrative, be it Obama, be it Bush, be it Clinton.
In other words, when it comes to very serious foreign policy pieces of business, like the anthrax attacks in 9-1-1, I'm The largest in our nation's history.
Seven years, they went all around the world, issued, I don't know, 5,500 subpoenas.
Supposedly, they want you to make it think that it's the best investigation in the world.
Obama comes in, he cleans house with everyone.
Who does he keep?
FBI Director Robert Mueller, the guy in charge of the anthrax investigation.
And when Mueller goes out to testify in, uh, September 2008, he is grilled by Senator Patrick Leahy in something in our film that I think is the most interesting scene.
Leahy, a target of the attacks, and the chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee with oversight over the FBI, who for seven years basically did not speak of the anthrax attacks.
When we called him up early on, we heard from his press spokesman, Senator Leahy never speaks about the anthrax attacks at any time.
Whoa. But, in September 2008, one month after the FBI named Ivins as the lone gunman, Leahy looks right into the eyes of Mueller and says, Director Mueller, I do not believe And if Ivan was involved, that he was the only who could be charged with murder
this was not internet chatter not uh...
alex jones chatter this was the chairman of the senate judiciary committee a recipient of the anthrax letters a man with direct oversight of the f_b_i_ charging conspiracy And cover-up of the largest unsolved serial murder investigation in FBI history.
And the fact that this new president, Obama, does not come forth and saying, let's get to the bottom of this, makes me think that there really is kind of a permanent government that draws a line in the sand and does not go further.
alex jones
Well, that's a whole other area, and I want both of you to respond to this.
The suspicious death of the Patsy, of the lone gunman.
He, from what I've read and some of what the film covers, was actually investigating the anthrax.
Looking into it, they already tried to burn several other Patsy's, a Middle Eastern American scientist, a South African guy.
They said some other people might have done it.
First they said Arabs had done it, and scribbling trying to frame Iraq.
But you guys are the experts that totally have been focusing on this, so enlighten me here.
Then, we noticed in just a few news articles buried But nowhere on national news that the Patsy had been grabbed, put in a mental institution, and then been in lockdown and died of prescription-strength Tylenol.
I mean, how bizarre is that?
And there wasn't anything about him being in government custody in the headlines.
That itself was suspicious.
And then it was, that's it.
Patsy's dead.
I mean, this...
So they tried over and over again with different Patsys.
Finally, they...
Got a Patsy that couldn't argue with him?
I mean, just the suspicious death alone?
bob coen
Well, we have to remember the first guy, the person of interest that they initially focused on was another U.S. Army scientist, Stephen Hatfield.
And they said they never named the suspect, but his name was leaked to the media.
He was pounded by the FBI.
And Hatfield was a tough guy.
He sued.
He sued the media.
He sued the FBI.
And last year, he got, uh, they settled with him for, the government settled with him for almost six million dollars and basically cleared him of all wrongdoing.
And just a few weeks later, the FBI announces, hey, we've got our guy.
The only problem is he's just committed suicide.
And you're right.
Bruce Ives was also a U.S. Army scientist, and he did help The FBI claimed that he got onto their radar a few months before or a little bit longer than that before he committed suicide.
He was put under extreme pressure again.
He was harassed by the FBI.
His children were even approached and offered, I think his son was offered a sports car, a Corvette, if he could rat out its father.
His security clearance was withdrawn.
And Bruce Ivins, you know, was made out in the media to have some mental problems.
But it's true, he was put under a lot of duress.
And, uh, the FBI a year ago announced that, uh, yeah, we got our guy, but he's just committed suicide.
The official story is that, uh, Bruce Ivins, uh, you know, was drinking heavily and took some, uh, some prescription Tylenol and, uh, was found, uh, unconscious and taken to a hospital and, uh, you know, died two days later.
But the interesting thing, Alex, is that we're actually in the edit room editing Anthrax War at the time, you know, last year when this happened.
And at that point, you know, the anthrax attacks were still unsolved.
And it was very interesting because Bruce Ivins is actually the fifth dead scientist in our film.
We'd followed a whole trail of dead scientists in our investigation, beginning with the death of David Kelly, The weapons expert who was an arms inspector in Iraq, who you might remember, died in 2003 just after the invasion of Iraq, where he was found dead in the woods near his home in Oxford.
And so we've been looking into a whole spate of mysterious deaths of germ warfare scientists, all of whom were working with anthrax.
alex jones
Go through some of those deaths, because It's not just the five suspicious anthrax connection deaths.
There are hundreds and hundreds of microbiologists and people in key bioweapons development and bioweapons fingerprinting, especially being murdered.
I mean, there'll be people at university in Houston, a van in a five-mile-an-hour zone runs over them in front of the students and then backs back over and leaves or people will be One guy in Virginia, the Washington Post reported, was like satanically sacrificed with all his guts ripped out and heart cut out and pentagrams carved in him.
Others are drowned in puddles of water.
Others get double capped in the head.
And I'm sure most of it isn't involving this case, but other cases of cover-ups.
I mean, I wouldn't want to be a microbiologist working in or around government programs.
eric nadler
In fact, that is the sentiment that was expressed.
By John Eldridge, a Englishman who is the editor of Jane's Defense Weekly's Chemical and Biological Defense News Report, perhaps the most sophisticated analysis of chemical and biological weapons used by U.N.'s weapons inspectors.
and has a long history of being a reputable piece of business.
And he said, looking at this spate of dead scientists, he said, "Geez, I would not like to be a microbiologist." And this quote has been confirmed.
In a couple of places.
Now look, the list does grow if you go to internet sites at 40, 50, 60, 70. I've seen it more than that.
alex jones
I've seen it more than that of you, Adam, all together.
I mean, over the last...
I was seeing lists before the anthrax attacks, before 2007.
I mean, you may be talking about some of the modern lists, but I mean, take Dr. David Kelly.
He sends emails saying, I'll be found dead in the woods if I speak out.
He tells friends, he tells people I've interviewed on the show.
He is writing a tell-all book on them.
Locals come up in the park, see five guys in black uniforms run away from his dead body.
There's no blood at the scener, very little from slit wrist.
There's three undissolved pills in his stomach.
And they say he died of slitting his wrist in pills.
I mean, this is, I mean, Could my dead body, could I be seen with black ops standing over me with witnesses and still?
I mean, maybe they could blow my head off on TV and say I killed myself.
I mean, this is getting ridiculous.
eric nadler
Yeah, well, you know, anything can happen in this modern media age, and I think the story about Kelly is very instructive.
I mean, Kelly's death has been suspicious from the get-go.
In our film, Antifa X War, we interview a member of parliament Norman Baker who takes a full year off from his responsibilities to investigate Kelly's death.
This is no kind of, you know, out of mainstream guy.
He's a member of the British Parliament and he ends up writing a book called The Strange Death of David Kelly and he says David Kelly was murdered.
And this is an astounding claim that has just been endorsed by 13 leading British doctors who have petitioned and hired a lawyer to ask that the Brown government in England, which is now considering a review of the Blair policies that led to the war in Iraq, They have four areas they want to investigate from the Downing Street memo, which you know about, etc., to the death of David Kelly.
And basically, the wrap on Kelly is the most telling piece of evidence that MP Norman Baker discovered was that the knife he supposedly used as he went to the woods all depressed About, uh, being, um, officially, uh, sacrificed by the British government as a leak that destroyed their case for war.
All depressed, he went into the woods, and he took a knife, he slit his wrists, and he swallowed some, uh, tablets from his wife's medicine cabinet.
What, uh, Baker got the police to admit was that there was no fingerprints on the knife.
Well, how do you kill yourself?
No fingerprints.
No glove and the Kelly murder And I don't say suicide I say murder because I really do believe was a murder as to increase it to 70% of the British public and a growing percentage of the opinion leaders in the UK Who killed Kelly?
uh... becomes a very important piece of business and he becomes the poster boy poster child poster man for these you know a hundred or so other suspicious deaths of microbiologists in fact one of the things we mentioned to a member of parliament
Who has mentioned to us that he'll be entering of Interviews we did for our film into the official parliamentary parliamentary inquiry into Kelly's death and the rush to war basically he said that the Kelly death combined with the death of Kelly's successor As the head of microbiology at the germ warfare
plant in Porton Down in England, he died in a light airplane crash, a suspicious crash 11 months after Kelly.
It's kind of mind-blowing.
What we do in our film, Anthrax War, and we do in our book, Dead Silence, is we begin to show that to work in this field of germ warfare is They're dangerous to your health because you end up killing yourself, suicide, the official story, or something else worse happens to you.
bob coen
Yeah, I mean, I mean also you gotta look at what are these guys doing?
And we decided to look at Kelly.
And what was his job in German warfare?
What was he doing?
And what was he doing at Fortin Down?
This lab, which is the U.S. Defense Department's, excuse me, the United Kingdom's secret lab where they do all their German research.
And one of the things that we discovered was that Fortin Down has got a long history of human experiments.
of uh...
testing bio weapons on uh...
alex jones
on some volunteers and chemical and chemical actually killed some people in association that i've had some of their family members on a march a man tell me we're going to test a bio hit him with sarin or vx uh...
side yet you have an expanding on that uh...
i've found they create their cadres of killers these things do they find scientists that believe the unjustifies the means And then sometimes they kind of wake up and realize what's happened.
That's why they've got to be killed.
But I just want to add, before we run out of time here, to blitz through other key points made in the film.
People need to support alternative news, filmmakers, and cinema.
And you guys are great filmmakers, award-winning filmmakers.
You know, I went over your bio earlier.
Anthrax War needs to be seen.
And we've got these up on InfoWars.com.
They're available.
I want everybody to get the full picture.
In this film, at Infowars.com, Anthrax War, a film by Bob Cohn and Eric Nadler.
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Mr. Cohn, go ahead and finish the point you were making when I interrupted there.
And then, in the time we've got left, rattle off some of the other key points and interesting things, because there's so much in this film and then so much other stuff I'm sure you discovered that you didn't have time to put in the film.
bob coen
Well, you know, we were talking about David Kelly, and we discovered, you know, that David Kelly was working at Porton Down, where, you know, he headed the microbiology department for many years there.
And they were involved, like you said, in human experiments at Porton Down, on these servicemen.
And there was a huge police investigation by the local police there into these human experiments, and they were looking at scientists And possibly, quite possibly, Kelly's was a target of this investigation.
the other thing we discovered about kelly was his relationship with the apartheid era uh...
south african apartheid era secret jerusalem weapons program
alex jones
And just amazing information.
Of course, you interview the head of the South African program.
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Available at InfoWars.com.
Folks, you've got to get this movie.
This needs to be seen by everybody.
We've got to point out this false flag event.
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bob coen
Yeah, one of the things we did is we traveled down to South Africa to see how the South African program, the Apartheid-era program that was run there by a guy called Dr. Death Vodafone.
And during the 1980s, he set up a very sophisticated secret germ war program with about 200 scientists.
and one of the main aims is to come up with this black bomb and ethnic specific bioweb would target black people uh...
a lot of questions about uh...
if they were actually succeeded in doing it he claims that uh...
they never succeeded uh...
but they were actively he admits in his interview with us in the film on camera that uh...
they did And admits that he had working relationships with the U.S. government, with the British government.
He visited Fort Detrick, the U.S. government churn warfare lab.
He visited Porton Down in the United Kingdom.
He admitted a relationship with Bassan.
And he said, we were asked to develop this ethnic weapon by another country.
Israel. Well, he didn't say we had pushed him, and he did not say what kind of weapon.
alex jones
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All right, great job, gentlemen.
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