Alex Jones and Max Keiser dissect the 2009 swine flu pandemic, claiming it was a staged event to push carbon taxes and open borders while Dr. Henry L. Nyman confirms the virus's natural origins despite underreported global deaths. They analyze the "Obama Deception" film, alleging he serves Goldman Sachs and the Federal Reserve in a fascist one-world government scheme involving $23.7 trillion in alleged theft. The discussion covers intercepted $200 billion Treasury bonds, Basel II loopholes, and chemtrail conspiracies, concluding that these orchestrated crises aim to establish a police state through eugenics, mass surveillance, and forced indentured servitude. [Automatically generated summary]
Medical doctor, expert on influenza, patent holder, major developer of a lot of major discoveries and technologies.
He is going to be with us for the rest of the hour here in just one moment.
I did want to mention the fact that scores of mainstream news articles are saying it is racist to lampoon Barack Obama.
Now, the very same New York Magazine that showed George Bush as a vampire, sucking the blood of Lady Liberty, they are now criticizing Obama as the Joker, because he's a clown and white face.
This is the political mental illness.
This is the weapon that they are using.
Using.
They know it's not racist.
They are scared of it.
Because they have this archetypal image of Obama as this sweetie pie who never lies and cares about you.
When in truth, he is a Joker-like frontman laughing at the public as he steals $23.7 trillion.
Did the Joker of Batman fame steal $23.7 trillion?
No.
Only Barack Obama could sucker the people into doing it.
And this archetypal image is really scaring the establishment right now.
That's why I'm sending a crew out today to put up posters that you see there.
We just went live at PrisonPlanet.tv for the radio audience.
We have these posted online at InfoWars.com.
That's why we're going to post these all over South Austin.
And we encourage other people around Austin and other cities.
Imagine if people listening right now in Austin, tens of thousands of listeners here in Austin, Would all go print these off InfoWars.com, print them off a color printer or black and white, go out with a staple gun, put them on power poles, tape them up on power boxes.
Imagine the effect.
And we've got a bunch of different versions.
Obama fascism, Obama InfoWars, Obama New World Order, Obama socialism.
This image is really having a big effect and they're now saying it's racist, that people should be investigated who put this up, that you should be stopped from doing it.
It is our First Amendment and you keep a right by exercising it.
We're also going to make one with Bush.
In fact, I forgot to tell Douglas to do that.
Make one with Bush in white face with a joker face real fast before they leave to go plaster these around.
Let's get a Bush one up, too, because this is a bipartisan situation.
By the way, we have the t-shirts.
They're being manufactured right now.
You can get them here first.
At Infowars.com, and these are really a hot seller.
We've never sold a t-shirt like this.
People are going wild buying these.
And you can get them with ObamaFascism, ObamaInfowars.com, ObamaNewWorldOrder, you can get it ObamaSocialism, you can get it in all these different formats.
And on the back it says, wake up before it's too late on one shirt.
One says, stop the criminals.
One says, end the Fed on the back.
So people see in the Fed and they go, what does it have to do with Obama being a joker?
Well, he's the front man for the real jokers.
Now, you don't have to buy the t-shirt at InfoWars.com, though it's a walking billboard to start conversations and discuss this.
It's a stunning image.
You can go to InfoWars.com.
The headline is, Joker Obama posters to go viral.
And we have the Obama fascism, the Obama socialism, the Obama New World Order, the ObamaInfoWars.com.
We're going to get a Bush up there too, an Obama fascism, and Bush fascism up there.
We've got to wake up before it's too late.
We've got to end the Fed.
Go print these off.
Print them on your printer, print them on a color printer, it looks even better like these that we're showing you on TV as we simulcast, and get them out!
Because there's this rebellion going on everywhere, at every town hall of Republicans and Democrats, everywhere, they're being shut down.
From Austin to New York, from New Jersey to Florida, from California to Michigan, it's happening everywhere.
The people are rising.
They've almost got two-thirds majority to audit the Fed and the House.
An override.
Ladies and gentlemen, this is getting so exciting.
This is only the beginning.
We've only begun to fight.
So I'm asking you, let's have a flash mob.
Let's have this go viral right now.
All of you, today or tomorrow, don't procrastinate.
Go print these off, even if it's black and white.
Get a stapler, get some tape, get a Can of glue with the paintbrush.
Put them up now!
We're going to go out today and do this.
I've got a bunch of work I've got to do.
I'm going to send one team out now to do it in the next hour.
Then I'm going to go out tonight and do it when I come back to work.
I'm going to stop.
I'm going to put these up.
All of us as a team effort.
And if this is successful, we can do this in the future.
We can do this in the future on the flu and other issues, like don't take the shot, that we ought to create one that says, I think I told them, but they've been so busy, we need one that says don't take the flu shot under it.
Let's make one of those for Obama right now and get it up in the flyers as well.
This is up on InfoWars.com, it's up on PrisonPlanet.com, get these.
If you're watching this a few days from now and can't find it on the main page, Google Joker Obama posters to go viral.
We also have an article called Obama as Joker Explained.
In Bob Kane's original comic book, the Joker is a master criminal and a bizarre psychopath.
Obama is not necessarily a psychopath.
This is to say, a ruthless, hands-on killer.
But by the standard of his office, he is a master criminal.
Or rather, a front man for a cartel of master criminals.
So get this out to everybody.
Let's go wild today.
Okay, now going to our guest who I really appreciate joining us.
I've read so much of his great research.
It's his first time on with us.
We really appreciate him coming on.
We're gonna post his website up on the screen for everybody up there.
It's flutracker.rhizalabs.com or RecomboBionetics.com.
Biomedics.com.
He is Dr. Henry L. Nyman.
And Doc, I know you don't like to toot your horn, but will you give people briefly your extensive bio?
I've been studying viruses since I was in graduate school.
Got my PhD at the University of Southern California back in 1978 and then did postdoctoral work and went on staff at a clinic and research foundation.
There I was mostly working on oncogenes but I also did some work on the flu back then with Ian Wilson who actually discovered the structure of the influenza virus was on the cover of Nature magazine back in 1980.
I developed monoclonal antibodies With our kind of factories that make antibodies to target almost anything, including the flu.
The flu monoclonal is probably the most popular monoclonal in the world.
Everybody uses it mostly for basic research to track different genes it's designed so that it can really identify any type Yeah, I mean, this is not just you saying this.
Yeah, and basically to bring a little bit more current, you know, when I was at Harvard, I got a little bit interested in newly emerging viruses.
I studied the SARS virus, worked with most of the researchers that were sequencing the virus in Asia.
And then when bird flu kind of made its appearance back in 2003, I kind of switched over to that and looked at how the virus evolves.
That's what recombinomics does.
It really looks at the genetic sequence of the virus, sees how it evolves, and actually uses that evolution to make predictions and to identify and to predict what the virus is going to look like in the future.
It's a combination which led to some of the speculation.
Just to give you a brief background on virus, It's got eight different gene segments.
It's kind of like a person with chromosomes.
You got 46 chromosomes, while the virus has eight.
And each of those gene segments has kind of a pedigree.
You can look at the sequence and tell where it came from.
And this virus is a mixture.
It's one of the genes that's involved with copying genetic information.
It's called TB1.
That's a human gene, but that was picked up by this virus back in 1993 from a human H3N2.
The human gene's been in this virus for almost two decades.
It's got two other genes that are involved with copying the genetic information, also called plumerase.
There's plumerase A and plumerase B1.
And both of those, I'm sorry, B2, and both of those are avian.
And then the other five genes are swine.
So it really has five swine, two avian, and one human, but it's had that composition since the 1990s.
So it didn't just happen.
It didn't just get manufactured.
None of that is unusual.
And the reason it happens at a high frequency is because it all happens in swine.
Swine is able to be infected by both avian viruses, human viruses, as well as swine viruses, all.
All these are flu.
And we get multiple viruses in the same host, in this case the swine.
The virus can either swap those chromosomes, those eight genes, and come up with a new constellation of genes, or it can actually recombine and actually change the gene.
I want to come back and then go over why we see the buildup, why the preparations for forced inoculations, talk of using the army, talk of quarantines in the fall for something that's killed 200 people with our guest, Dr. Nyman, again, is a medical doctor, expert virologist researching all this.
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Give us your bottom line as one of the top experts out there studying the flu and you have the big flu tracker tracking it worldwide.
Why are they taking this so serious?
Why are they saying they're getting ready for forced inoculations and quarantines over something that's killed a couple hundred people in the United States?
Okay, well, it really has to do with the history of pandemics in the past and the similarity of this particular pandemic in 2009 with the pandemic in 1918.
with the pandemic in 1918.
Just as a refresher, the 1918 pandemic killed between 20 and 50 million people worldwide.
And the population back in 1918 was about a quarter of what the population is today.
It infected about a third of the world's population between 1918 and 1919, and the people that were dying were generally young, previously healthy adults between the ages of 20 and 45.
It actually ended World War I because it was so widespread, because so many of the troops were dying from it.
The concern is that this is a rerun.
The virus in 1918 was a swine virus that jumped into the human population and it recombined and came up with a new version.
The virus in 1918 did exactly what 2009 did.
In the spring, it started out as a mild disease.
In fact, the physicians that were looking at patients in the spring of 1918 didn't even think it was influenza because it was so mild.
And then the virus evolved, and in the fall it came back with a vengeance, and it ended up killing the large number of people.
The 2009 is really behaving the same way.
It is a swine virus which has jumped to humans.
The last time a swine virus jumped to humans and was easily transmitted was 1911.
Some of your listeners may be old enough to remember 1976, which was the swine flu vaccine.
In that case, it was the soldier at Fort Dix that died, and a few hundred soldiers at Fort Dix were infected.
That led to the vaccine program, but by the time the vaccine was ready, the virus had essentially burned itself out.
The swine, which is the pandemic, the H1N1, which is causing the pandemic, is a swine virus.
It's not a human virus.
The seasonal flu vaccine is called a trivalent vaccine because it's made of three different seasonal flus.
It's made of an H1N1 human, an H3N2 human, and an influenza B.
So that is recommended on a yearly basis because the virus changes so quickly that the immunity that's generated by the vaccine one year generally doesn't carry over that efficiently to the next year because the virus has evolved and changed.
And that's what an annual flu vaccine is.
It's once a year.
Children getting it for the first time, they take it twice because you need a booster.
And that's the seasonal flu.
And that's totally separate.
From the pandemic flu.
The pandemic flu is swine, so there's not much, if any, there probably is no cross-reactivity.
Not calling it swine is more of a WHO political, they're afraid that people are going to go around killing pigs.
and the false belief that that is how it's transmitted.
And that's not.
I mean, the point is that the virus has jumped in. - Yeah. - So now people that are getting infected with swine flu are not getting infected by pigs, they're getting infected by other people.
Back in January and February, I had guests on emergency managers and people where they were getting ready for mass graves and flu pandemics this coming fall.
And then magically, this all just pops up.
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Whenever I would have the emergency managers on, they said flu, bird flu, deadly flu.
And we see this huge infrastructure being built, NORTHCOM running drills everywhere, major cities having regular army, army reserve, marines out running checkpoints, building up.
This thing looks staged to me, but it sounds like you're just going off the science and saying the flu looks like it could be a danger or it isn't a danger.
Getting to pandemic preparedness and the political side is kind of a little out of my area of expertise.
But just as a comment, the issue of potential pandemic from bird flu, it's really been At the top of a lot of lists going back to 2005 or so.
The swine flu really emerged.
I mean, it's not that there hasn't been flu in swine before, but the transmission of the swine flu from human to human really became obvious in April of this year.
I'm sorry, in March of this year, at the end of The end of March, beginning of April.
And that's when it became apparent that there was a pandemic.
Nobody really knew about the pandemic involving swine until April of this year.
But the reason it's being taken quite seriously really has to do with the history of the 1918.
And that's really the reason there's been the pandemic prepared us.
Actually, there's a law, and again, it's getting a little bit out of my area, but declaring bird flu a quarantinable disease actually was signed by President Bush back in April 1st but declaring bird flu a quarantinable disease actually was signed by President
And that coincided with health care workers dying in North Vietnam as a result of H5N1.
So the potential of a pandemic of one sort or another has been around for For several years now in a very real way.
But the swine flu is kind of a different, a little bit different than the bird flu.
It's harder for the birds to dump to humans because that's avian to mammal.
It's much easier for swine because that's mammal to mammal.
So it is quite a bit different from one species to the other, but it is a species dump.
And that is what is causing the concern.
As far as the numbers are concerned, they're quite a bit higher than 200 as far as deaths are concerned.
Doctor, let me stop you because I can pull these numbers up and I'm not saying you're wrong, but the CDC three weeks ago said they're going to stop reporting flu fatalities with the swine flu, as it's known.
I mean, let me just put this out there, because I can pull up the CDC.
They say it was like 198, and then less than 2,000.
Well, the real numbers... Well, here's a number that'll probably get your attention.
In Argentina, in the last month or so, there have been Probably over a thousand that have died in that country alone in just the one month period.
The official numbers, yesterday Argentina came out with official numbers that said that there were 337 dead and they said there were 400 more that were dead but hadn't been tested.
So they admitted on their government website in Argentina that there were likely to be over 700.
I've got boots on the ground actually in Argentina journalists who are actually doing stories for It's again mainstream media, but they are on the ground.
I do get reports back and they say it's over a thousand.
No, that's pretty rare that they listen to the twine flu and find out it isn't.
It's usually the other way around, that the people test negative and then they discover on autopsy that it was twine flu.
The numbers, most of the numbers that are used to flu track actually come from government reports.
The U.S.
is pulling back, but just to clarify that, they're pulling back mostly on the mild cases they used to report.
Each state reported cases with quite a bit of detail on a county-by-county basis, and they were reporting on a daily basis.
That went to a weekly basis, and then the CDC recently announced that they were no longer going to be doing the weekly And they weren't going to be doing it on a county-by-county because there were too many cases.
And they basically have been overwhelmed.
So they can't do the lab confirmed.
The cases I cited for Argentina actually come from the government website.
In Argentina, and it's written in Spanish, but it is, you know, it's easily translated and the numbers are quite real.
And they just came out with an announcement yesterday.
It's dated August 5th.
Their numbers have tended to be low.
And the evidence that their numbers are low is that in addition to the national sites, there are state sites or provincial sites in Argentina.
And those numbers tend to be quite a bit higher.
I mean, most of the deaths in Argentina are in the Buenos Aires region, and there's another province, Santa Fe, which is right next to it, a town, Rosario.
And those are where most of the deaths at least have been reported.
And so they came out with a report yesterday, and the report yesterday did list the 337 cases.
It broke them down by each of the provinces, and then they noted that they are lagging, and they've been lagging the whole time.
I mean, Argentina is one of the places on the map that we actually include suspects.
Because they basically don't become an official case until they're tested by the official state lab.
So even if there's a private lab that has confirmed the case, they won't count it until they confirm it independently.
And there's so many cases that they're just very backlogged.
So the 337 were lab-confirmed cases, and the 400 were cases that essentially have the same features.
The flu, even though it's flu season in the Southern Hemisphere now, and so that's one of the reasons there's so much attention being paid to the Southern Hemisphere because it's cold and it's flu season and it's kind of a preview of what's going to happen in the Northern Hemisphere starting in the fall.
And they, you know, have a thousand A thousand people that have died, and most of them are young adults.
They're between the ages of 20 and 45, just like 1918.
What do you project the death rate is going to be like this flu season in the western countries, A, and B, when do you see it peaking and then dissipating?
You saw the story about Baxter and the European countries mixing it in.
I want you to comment on that.
We've also seen reports, and we've had doctors on and read the reports, that they're saying the testing of the vaccine, the headline was live attenuated.
Maybe explain that.
But the issue is some are saying it can mutate easily in the body and incubate something new or merge with other seasonal flus.
I don't know the details about that one as much as I know about Baxter.
Baxter was an experimental vector that got contaminated at Baxter.
Make a pandemic H5N1 vaccine and I would say somewhere along the lines at the plant it happened it wasn't supposed to be there that nobody knew it was there until they actually injected the ferrous the ferrous died and essentially they basically you know made corrections so that's not going to happen again but but it wasn't in the vaccine that was You know, being prepared for humans.
This was an experimental lab version, which isn't going to have as many controls as the version that actually goes to the people.
And it got contaminated and they found out when it went into the ferret.
As far as the vaccines themselves are concerned, vaccines have already shipped.
The vaccine for the pandemic that has already shipped by several companies is really The same as the seasonal flu.
It's not a live vaccine.
It's not an attenuated vaccine.
It's a killed vaccine.
So this virus is killed, there's nothing alive in the vaccine, and it's just like the trivalent seasonal flu.
Dr. Henry L. Nyman is our guest and he's an expert on all this and he says it's a real threat.
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Wait a minute, are you saying the big order the government made doesn't have adjuvants?
Because I saw that it did.
Well, I mean, in so many of the studies I've seen by research firms and medical doctors, it's the adjuvants that are worse than the thimerosal causing autoimmune responses.
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I hope he's wrong though.
I mean, I don't want this to be a real deadly flu.
I mean, I know it's deadly for those that are being dying, but you've got the flu season raging right now and a few thousand dead or 1,700 and something.
That doesn't sound like a big deal to me, but he's saying it could mutate.
So are you saying, doctor, it's bad now or it could be potentially mega bad?
I was trying to find out where it was where a patient actually turned blue overnight and died.
Those are the characteristics of 1918.
There's this cyanosis, basically the person literally turns blue and ends up dying suddenly.
I mean, there are reports in 1918 of people that basically were sitting down and playing bridge, and they literally fell over and died at the bridge table.
But doctor, doctor... And here's why That's a problem for this year, okay?
Because the virus is adapting, so it really doesn't take a whole lot of change.
If the virus is actually growing at twice the rate that it is right now, it's gonna elicit a much greater autoimmune response.
It's going to grow quickly, and people are going to respond to it, and that's this cytokine storm, that's this cascade, and that's why people end up dying.
Okay, let me just stop because we're almost out of time.
It's clear I've got to have you back up.
I'm very appreciative of your time.
I hope you're wrong, because, you know, I got family, and I live here in Texas.
It seems to be one of the epicenters for all of this, and I don't trust these vaccines.
I've seen with their history what they do.
And this whole thing has stage written all over it.
I know you don't get into areas like that.
You just cover the facts that you can document, but I've had a bad feeling all along for the last year in the build-up to this, and are you saying, Doc, with your educated opinion, you've got a bad feeling about this year?
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Max, if I could start with you.
What is it about Goldman Sachs?
How does it manage to turn the figures around like that?
Well, Goldman Sachs are scum.
I mean, that's the bottom line.
They basically have co-opted the U.S.
government.
They've co-opted the Treasury Department, the Federal Reserve functionality.
They've co-opted the Obama administration.
Barack Obama, you know, dances to Goldman Sachs' tune.
And they are really crooked and abominable in what they've done.
You just remember Hank Paulson held the Congress hostage to come in the back room and said, give us 700 billion dollars, we're going to crash this market.
Well, joining us for the rest of the hour, maybe twist his arm a little bit into the next, take some phone calls, is Max Keiser.
He's a former Wall Street broker and is the inventor of the Virtual Specialist Technology, Prediction Markets, Hollywood Stock Exchange, a bunch of other systems, and my private film.
Max is currently a TV presenter, radio host, entrepreneur, broadcast journalist.
He's the host of On The Edge with Max Keiser on Press TV.
He's also done a BBC show called The Oracle, blogger for The Huffington Post.
Max also presented the films for Al Jazeera.
He joins us from Paris, France.
And he's also a little bit in the new Obama film that I will soon announce the name of.
I'll announce it by next Wednesday.
I've got to quit procrastinating and get to doing that.
You just heard me play a clip of him on national main French television.
We're going to play another clip of something coming up at the bottom of the hour.
This is your chance to have financial questions.
We're going to clear the board of calls, fresh calls specifically for Max Keiser on the economy, on the police state.
Uh, but Max, let me throw you a curveball before we get into Goldman Sachs and all this.
Out of the gates here.
Uh-oh.
Curveball.
It's Max Keiser's curveball.
It's a knuckleball, but seriously, the flu situation, troops everywhere, mass graves, they denied it a year ago, now they admit it, forced inoculations, talks of lockdown, only less than 2,000 dead worldwide.
They are really hyping this thing, really trying to scare people.
This looks like, to me, the perfect cover.
To get their carbon tax through, to get their open borders through, their gun control, their government health care, that they're trying to push through in October.
Well, you know, I mean, I'm all about the banking and finance systems, you know.
I mean, that's what I cover.
As far as the whole swine flu epidemic, you know, I'm an idiot because I go to the drugstore every day and I buy stuff for your hands that disinfect my hands.
Of course, I was laughing at those people a year ago.
But, you know, it's a herd mentality.
You know, how much do they charge $8 for, like, you know, a squirt of that stuff over here?
Think of the profits that are being generated.
It's all herd mentality.
People like, I go to meet friends and they're like sharing these things.
A little antiseptic gel.
I mean, it's pragmatic.
You fall into the behavior that is inculcated through this massive wave of scare tactics.
Everything can be sold using scare tactics now.
They figured that out.
You know, shock and awe, 9-11.
If you scare enough people, they can scare you into buying anything now.
Why bother coming up with a creative campaign to sell stuff when you just show people getting blown up?
And then you'll sell a truckload of whatever it is you're trying to sell.
You know, it's all salesmanship.
It's like just basically, you know, infomercials for psychosis and mass destruction.
And they'll sell anything down the pike.
But, you know, I want to talk about Goldman Sachs for a second.
Now, just to give you an analogy here, if you saw somebody, your neighbor, and they had a rubber hose in your neighbor's gas tank, and he had that hose, and it was over a bucket, and he was stealing gas from your, you know, you'd say, hey buddy, you know, don't steal our neighbor's gas, that's not very nice, that's not very social behavior, he's siphoning off gas, right?
Basically, They don't even argue.
They don't deny this.
Goldman Sachs, over at 85 Broad Street, is where they have their headquarters down there on Wall Street.
They co-located a server next to the New York Stock Exchange, and they use this high-frequency trading to siphon off Depending on whose estimates you read, between $100 million and $200 million a day.
They're just siphoning cash directly off the floor of the exchange.
They claim that they are, quote-unquote, adding liquidity to the system.
So if you caught a guy siphoning gas from a car, and his defense was, no, I'm adding gas to the car!
So they say, hey, Goldman, you're siphoning money from the Florida Exchange using high-frequency trading, using all those proprietary algorithms, which I know a lot about because I created the virtual specialist technology that's used to trade bonds by Cantor Fitzgerald on Wall Street.
By the Hollywood Stock Exchange and Trade Box Office features and I designed these systems.
So I know all about these systems and basically it's nothing more than siphoning off cash.
And Barney Frank says, oh, a little profiteering is okay.
We need the banks on Wall Street to have a little profiteering because after all, if the banks aren't healthy, the economy is not healthy.
He's upset because now that he works for the government, his slice of the bonus pool is smaller.
He's upset he can't sell his house in Larchmont, New York, which by the way, his house in Larchmont is less than a mile from where I grew up.
In Westchester County, I used to ride my bicycle by his house all the time.
He just said he can't sell his house because of the economic problem that he himself helped create.
And now that Paulson successfully ransomed the government for $700 billion, which became $13 trillion, he's now paying himself.
He's working with the Chinese to manage their money.
He's going to make billions again.
But he took the job for the government, of course.
He said, well, I had to sell my Goldman Sachs.
stock at close to its all-time high.
By the way, because I'm working for the government, I don't have to pay taxes on that game.
So his whole role as a servant for the government was a tax dodge.
Paul was just a tax dodger.
He saved something like $100 million in taxes by taking that job, worked for a couple of years, engineered the collapse of Lehman Brothers and Bear Stearns, took away all the competition from Goldman and J.P. Morgan and his crony buddies, and got rid of his archenemy Dick Fold over Lehman Brothers.
It was nothing but a grudge match between those two.
They could have easily...
This is the tragedy of it.
Going back to what I call the 9th of August, or 8-9, which is right up there with 9-11, two years ago, the 9th of August, two years ago in 2007 is when BNP in Paris said that they couldn't value the subprime bonds on their books, and that started what we call the credit crash for the next 24 months.
The response from the government was not to reform the banking system, but to give them now what we know to be roughly $13 trillion.
And according to guys like Carl Denninger, who's a very plugged-in guy, that number's going to double again.
And the tragedy is that they could have very easily wiped out every mortgage debt and every credit card debt in America for less than that money.
Well, yeah, I mean, Bloomberg reported 9.4 trillion would pay off all mortgages, not just bad mortgages, but, you know, $50 million palaces, $100,000 bungalows.
Everything paid off, but now you're saying 13.
The Congress and the banks are saying 23.7.
But I guess that's different types of money they created, and that's not counting all the magical SDRs and these other layers of global currency.
Get back to this point, because it's a very important point.
Every single mortgage in America could have been paid off.
Every single credit card debt could have been paid off.
So therefore, every citizen in America could be sitting there with no debts at all.
They'd have their credit card, they'd be in the mall shopping.
The economy is 70% consumption anyway, so the economy would be growing.
The jobs would be growing, not collapsing.
The banks would actually be still making some money, because they're still in the business of making loans.
And what we'd have left are these incredible black holes of debt, which would have to be addressed.
And the way to address that would have been to force the banks to write off those debts in real time and suffer the consequences, because they created those debts.
So instead of like Warren Buffett, who's now saying, I'm going to have a blockbuster quarter of my life because 75% of his business is probably getting bailed out by the government.
It's stock going from $70,000 a share back to $100,000 a share back to $147,000 a share.
If you want to buy one share of Berkshire Hathaway stock, Warren Buffett, and be part of the global elite, you need $147,000 to buy one.
Once you have $100,000 to buy one share of Berkshire Hathaway stock of Warren Buffett, then forget it.
You're not part.
You're not going to be part of the true economy that's run by all these insiders.
So you're sitting there holding your, you know, 50 shares of some over-the-counter Nasdaq.com bomb that was sold to you by some hard-selling telephone salesman working on commission.
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If you have a demagogue with a fanatical mass movement of personality cultists who is imposing the program of a group of extreme bankers and finance oligarchs, that's fascism.
You know, look at Tony Blair over there in the UK.
When he left No.
10 Downing Street, after all the dodgy dossier, after all the fake rhetoric leading up to the invasion, after telling the 2 million people that were in the streets in Britain that they didn't want to get into the Iraq War, within 10 minutes of leaving No.
10 Downing Street in disgrace, where did he end up?
JPMorgan.
The presidency is now used as a resume sweetener.
So whether it's one term or two terms, the next step for Obama is Goldman Sachs or JPMorgan.
And that's the true endgame.
That's the goal for these guys.
That's where they cash in.
The presidency is just a fancy thing on your resume now.
It doesn't mean anything in terms of public service anymore.
Well, it means you can read off a teleprompter good.
That's why Bush was so hated, is that he couldn't sit there with puppy dog eyes, lovingly lying to you.
But, you know, you write for the Huffington Post, you deal with some of the classical-type liberals out there.
It seems a lot of them are starting to wake up, those that are honest, like yourself, who had supported Obama.
But then, when you talk to other Democrats or progressives or whatever, they just scream you're a racist.
Like, they're now saying that the archetypal poster of Obama socialism, we've changed it to Obama fascism because we believe that's closer to what it actually is, they're now saying that's racist.
When it has nothing to do with race.
This parroting race, race, race over and over again isn't working.
The media is also trying to claim it's partisan.
So the establishment's throwing Democrats under the bus, or under the train, trying to say all these congressmen getting shouted down at town halls are only Democrats.
I've tracked it.
They're shouting the Republicans down too.
So this is something completely new.
It looks like the United States is on the verge of revolution, Max Geiser.
Well, we've been saying this for a few years, that the wealth and income gap is getting wider and wider.
The amount of wealth controlled by the top 1% is just getting wider and wider.
The past six months and the past two years has been nothing more than The Wall Street banks and other banks around the world and the central banks getting together and grabbing more power and more wealth.
There was a New York Times story, I think it was today or yesterday, where Lloyd Blankfein, the new CEO of Goldman Sachs is saying, what crisis?
There was no crisis.
We were never in jeopardy.
We're just smart.
We're doing business like we've always done it.
You know, here's the thing about the stock market rally.
All that money that goes into the stock market rally, the $3 trillion rally, that money was not coming from the money market funds, which would be an indication that the public is involved in the stock market.
This money is coming from the bailout funds, and it's being not used to lend to businessmen and people in America to help them get through this crisis.
It's being used as speculative capital by the banks to make money in the stock market.
And once this rally, which is fed by the spec money, the bailout money is being used by the speculators on Wall Street to speculate the stock market.
It caught everyone flat-footed.
It was up 50% or something like that.
This is the biggest rally since the 1930s.
Oh, by the way, that's very significant if you want to think about it.
And now that you've got this CNBC and Jim Cramer now pounding the table, they're going to set just another sucker's rally.
Where they're going to come in, people are going to be buying this thing again, and they're going to be buying it at the top again, and they're going to be asking for a bailout again in another six months.
So the cycle repeats itself.
If you have a rising stock market, it tends to cloud people's thinking.
They're willing to overlook everything and anything if they think they can buy a winning lottery ticket.
People just ignore their own self-interest, and they go loopy.
They have the drugs, the antidepressants, and the failure to have a decent diet, and you just have a sick, zombie nation of speculators who are trying to be the next partner of Goldman Sachs, and the chances of that are like being the next winner on American Idol.
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Mike, so what to make of this decision by BNP to pay out these bonuses?
Echoes of Goldman Sachs last month?
Well, I think BNP wants us all basically to toss their salad.
That's their game plan.
Let's keep in mind that two years ago on August 9th was the beginning of a staged, controlled financial terrorist demolition of the world's financial system when BNP announced that they couldn't value bonds in their books.
The subprime loans that started the credit crash, the controlled demolition of the global banking system two years ago.
This is, we'll go down in history as basically the 9th of August or 8-9, similar to 9-11.
This is when they started this controlled demolition.
That's Max Keiser on the main National News Channel in France.
He's got a show on press TV, starting a show on Russia Today, huge worldwide.
Paul Watson has that on his broadcast TV in Sheffield.
Give you an idea how big Russia Today is.
And he's also done the BBC TV show, a very busy person.
I'm going to be on this week's press TV show with him, so always honored to be there.
Before we go back to Max Keiser and ask about his upcoming TV appearances, he'll be with us 20 minutes into the next hour.
Starting next segment, we're going to take phone calls for Max Keiser at 1-800-259-9231.
He could talk about a whole host of issues, but he can't talk about chupacabras and stuff like that.
Ladies and gentlemen, we have the t-shirt being made right now.
I had the idea Monday, when I noticed that that image of Obama's socialism was going viral, I knew that it was a hot image because it just took him and really bared his soul and broke The back was ready to be broken of this illusion of him as this sweetheart that loves you.
And I think the image of him as a psychopathic criminal is much closer to the reality.
But again, he's just a front man.
So we made these T-shirts.
They're selling like hotcakes.
I'm very glad we'll get the word out because they have good messages on the back.
They have very, very important messages on the back, like Wake up before it's too late, stop the criminal in the Fed.
There's eight different t-shirts, eight different variants.
Obama Fascism, ObamaInfoWars.com, Obama New World Order.
And I'm sending a crew out right now to make a viral YouTube video where I'm going to have my crew plaster BarackObamaInfoWars.com posters everywhere.
We're having a $1,000 prize.
I'll announce it next Friday.
You just make a YouTube video, you go out, make a bigger poster, smaller poster, and you just say, Infowars.com.
You can mix in a little Obama fascism, because I think that's closer to what he is.
Socialism's bad enough, as if we're going to take money from one group and give it to another.
But this is $30 for the bank, $1 for the people, is Max Keiser.
And others are broken down.
So, we're going to have this contest launching today up on InfoWars.com to print off the flyers on the Joker Obama posters to go viral page.
That's the name of the page that has all these files.
You can print off in color, black and white, I don't care.
The winner will be the person that most inventively puts out the most posters in the most public places.
So just show that in a 10-minute or less YouTube video.
Everybody make them.
The word gets out.
Huge viral event.
And let's start today with the Obama poster bomb.
All over the country, everywhere.
I'm going to work on films today, do some interviews.
Then I'm going to go home and see my children.
When I'm driving back tonight, I'm going to get out with staplers and glue at different power boxes and poles, and I'm going to put up at least 10 of these.
So, you know, walk the walk.
I certainly, talk the talk, also walk the walk.
So get these off InfoWars.com, get them out to everybody, and don't forget we're also selling the t-shirts, because they're trying to say it's racist, it's evil, it's bad, you're not allowed to lampoon him, he's a god.
I love taking their deity, their royalty, and showing what he really is, a joker, a scammer.
I mean, Max Keiser, do you think it's unfair and mean to put up a joker, A, and B, Isn't it our right anyways, whether it's nice or not, to show the god-like creature in whatever way we wish?
Or should it be illegal, as some Democratic operatives are calling for?
The parodies and the things that were done were extreme.
And because the country was angry.
And why are they angry?
Because they don't have a job, because the economy is sinking, because the president seems to curry favor with the Wall Street banks and he has done no reformation of the banking system whatsoever.
If anything, he's given them more Power.
And the people, unfortunately, have no power except through, historically, the people have always resorted to pamphleteering, and through parody, and through any means necessary that is cheap, but carries their message, and this is just what happens when an economy is concentrated Wealth is by the fewer and fewer percentage, and it leaves the vast majority face down in the mud.
And this just creates this dynamic.
And the way to stop it is to address this unbelievable power grab of the money and wealth in the United States by the select few, and start to engage in some measures that will restore balance.
The problem with these banks on Wall Street is that As the power grab continues, there's less and less competition for them.
And people say, well, you know, people are just envious that Goldman Sachs is making a lot of money, which is completely incorrect.
What is disturbing is that there are no competitors for Goldman Sachs.
Why doesn't Obama and Geithner and Bernanke, why don't they start a few new banks that will challenge No, everything has to be fed into the mega bank at the expense of the people and that's what John D. Rockefeller first said.
He said competition is a sin and it is a sin to these mega monopoly capitalists.
Competition is the lifeblood of what's called the American Dream.
The purpose of the government is to allow, like an empire, at the ballgame, so that there can be fair competition.
That's what the government can do.
They play the empire at the ballgame, and then we'll see who competes the best.
Some people are talented, some people are really hardworking, and you have the ability through sheer hard work to make it in that economy.
But if they remove If the Empire is working for the banks, and there are no laws, there are no rules, then the people in the country are going to rise up and say, you know what, this is bull P.S.
You know, we want to compete.
The people want to work.
They want to compete.
But the banks on Wall Street won't let them.
And that blockage has got to be removed from the economy.
There needs to be a reintroduction of competition in the United States.
And the way to do that is to remove the egregious monopoly of everything financial.
Every loan, every price on every exchange is totally manipulated at this point.
And it's done so thousands of times a minute.
And they're just stealing themselves.
They've got, like I said at the top of the interview, they've got a siphon stuck into the pot of money that is America's wealth, and they're just siphoning it out with no competition whatsoever.
They're just taking it.
They're just stealing it without any intrusion from any regulator whatsoever.
Now, how's that going to foster an economy of hardworking, diligent, moral people?
Did you... Well, on Monday... Look, this is on the front page of the Financial Times.
Wall Street Profits from Fed Rule.
This is on the front page of the Financial Times.
What does this mean?
The Federal Reserve tells Wall Street what they're buying and selling before they buy and sell.
Wall Street then steps in, they quote-unquote front run, which means they place orders ahead of the government, and they make money without taking any risks.
Insider trading, crime, and thievery are listed on the exchange.
You can buy them every single day!
It's a listed open sewer of corruption that they're just buying and selling on the exchange.
And they're basically taunting people and saying, look, you either with us or against us.
That's why I have that site.
GulagWealthFund.com, which has all the companies that are profiting from this Gulag Casino State.
So I've got the various military contractors and the various banks.
And if you want to participate in the Gulag wealth industry, you should buy the shares in these stocks, because you can watch your country go into the mud as well.
And you'll be the richest guy in the world, but you will have lost your country.
So that's the trade-off.
That's the trade-off you have to ask yourself.
Are you willing to become rich?
And in exchange, in exchange for their wealth, are you willing to give up your country?
That's the question everyone has to ask themselves.
But at a certain point, they destroy the standard of living and turn all the Western countries into sewers.
But I guess they don't care as long as they're the king monkey sitting on top of the pile of dung.
It's just amazing.
Did you see where the White House, we actually broke this on Monday, it's now been picked up nationally, the White House is asking its people to report anyone that talks bad about the health care plan, and then back during the campaign they had cops in Missouri going, we're going to arrest you if we decide you lie about Obama.
And all these youth brigades and youth corps with all these big Republicans running them for Obama, like David Gergen?
Well, because the business of the casino gulag model, the supporting the cops in this case and the surveillance and the invasive technology 24-7, this isn't the only business.
You know, here's an interesting point.
If you look at the gross domestic product of America for the last quarter and they say That, um, it was, um, the figures were up minus, plus or minus 1% from a year earlier, and they were saying, see, the economy is on some kind of growth track, or it's not decelerating as fast as we thought it would.
If you subtract the military from the durable hard goods number, the military component, it's more than 50%.
So, in other words, the only growth that you see in the U.S.
right now comes from invading countries, slaughtering people, and installing surveillance equipment.
That's it.
That's what America exports now.
That's their growth industry.
And they look at that, they say, it's great.
The people who are doing it, they can borrow money from Wall Street at virtually no money, no interest rates whatsoever, because they keep those artificially low interest rates for them.
If you're a saver, if you work and you save money, like, I'm a saver.
I have only savings.
I have no debt.
I don't have a mortgage.
I don't have a credit card.
I never had any debt.
But I'm being penalized because I cut my savings.
I get 1% at most.
That's outrageous.
And when the demand for credit is there, I should be getting 4 or 5%.
So I'm subsidizing Goldman Sachs.
I'm subsidizing JP Morgan.
They're stealing money from me every single day.
That's completely ridiculous.
So why?
What productive role are they playing in a society?
None.
They're just having, like, acid.
They're just ripping it apart.
And it's not even because they're not even having a lot of fun doing it.
They love blasting out the free market, destroying societies, bankrupting people.
I read the Malthusian eugenicist views of all these elites.
Goldman Sachs and JP Morgan publicly fund most of the eugenics groups, most of the zero growth groups.
They're paying people to sell good cars.
Then the car dealers just don't go down as much and actually rip you off.
The studies show for cash for clunkers.
Obama's idea to renew America is to quote bulldoze cities.
USA Today, command destruction.
This is what they want, and I wanted to ask you, Max, before we go to calls.
Ecoscience.
Holdren.
And it turns out the guy who wrote the book with Paul Ehrlich was George Bush Sr.' 's science advisor, openly wanting to drug the water, take all children at birth, train them, raise them in government dormitories.
Uh, and now in England, 20,000 families have cameras in the homes watching their children.
They're saying they're going to take the children and raise them in dormitories, that the family is bad, that the state is actually... This is in the book!
You know, it just makes you well up in tears inside, because you realize that this great experiment that was started in the 18th century has come to a shocking close very suddenly, because of a complete inability for those who are benefiting most from a democratic society to stand up for their democracy.
So if you're a collegial capitalist, if you're running a casino gulag state, and you've got no resistance whatsoever, then Why blame them?
Rust never sleeps.
Rust is rust.
These people are never going to stop.
They don't have no logic.
There's nothing behind them that makes any human sense.
So they're not going to stop.
And the people who are getting the most affected by this are refusing to stand up for themselves.
I don't see any change in the dynamic here whatsoever.
I just don't see it.
You know, I live in France because I can't even live in the United States.
It makes me a little queasy inside to walk around and just... It's like being in a zombie-ville.
Here in France, the people in France have a situation where the government fears them.
The government fears the people.
If the government says something or does something in France that the people don't like, they immediately are out in the street.
They're protesting and demonstrating every single day.
The Obama deception is actually being viewed here in France by people.
And there are, I guess, some people have some versions with subtitles out there or something, but they knew significant parts about it.
And here, you know, in Europe, Obama was very, very seductive, and he really won over the Europeans.
And so this is something that has come up, and it's really a topic of discussion, that this whole reversal, the fact that his popularity has been dropping, and what does this mean, and you know, we're in love with him, and how did we think about this, and then the Obama deception film came up, because how many views does it have on the net?
Yeah, it's more than that, but yeah, that's conservative.
Well, the issue is, it wasn't their love of Obama, it was their hatred of Bush.
And I found that in my own life.
I'll hate somebody so much that I end up being friends with that person's enemy, and that person turns out being just as bad.
And I think that's what it is, is that Bush was so horrible, people associated all the tyranny with him, so it went running to Obama, and he was just a pimp who then got us in the hotel room and punched us in the face and knocked our teeth out, and now we're crawling around on the ground bleeding, and he's going, yeah, bitch, you like it.
And I think people are finally going, no, I don't like it.
I'm leaving.
So we're running out the door in our skirt, crying in the rain, and he's slapping us with a coat hanger, and I just think it's time for people to wake up.
People in France, you know, contrary to popular belief, are really love America in a lot of ways.
I mean, there's huge boulevards in the middle of Paris, you know, Franklin Roosevelt Boulevard, JFK Boulevard, and, you know, the French are the ones that finance the American Revolution, and as a result, their own economy went into free fall.
If it wasn't for France, there wouldn't be no America.
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Need to have them up on YouTube in the next four or five days.
But it also seems that Obama's controllers are going to want to stage something.
A new war with Iran, an economic collapse, more economic terrorism.
domestic-stage terror attacks.
I mean, what do you see happening in the next couple years with the people taking over all these town halls, going after both parties, and how the empire is going to strike back?
Well, as you know, as I've said on your show before, I think that as the economy continues to collapse, there's going to be a big push across the country, state to state, to legalize gambling, and that gambling is going to be to legalize gambling, and that gambling is going to be more of a factor in the economy There are going to be more ways to gamble, specifically online.
The reason you don't have online gambling right now is because of the mob in Vegas and New Jersey that control gambling in those communities.
I think that the combination of online gambling, cheap Pharmaceutically engineered, over-the-counter, mood-altering drugs, and terrible food products, high fructose corn syrup-based food products.
You put all those things into a cocktail of silliness, and you end up with a population that is completely strung out and just trying to gamble their way toward making... Basically, it's indentured servitude.
Is what we're heading toward, because the debts are never going to be paid.
They're simply never going to be paid.
And as the banks reorganize the system right now, they're putting all the bad debts into the publicly held banks.
Like, for example, in the UK, there's Northern Rock, which was the first bank, one of the first banks to go under.
They just announced that they've got three times the bad toxic assets that they thought that they had.
But that's a publicly owned bank.
So now, it's really the public that owns those toxic assets.
The private banks, Are the banks that are held by the runners of the gulag casino state, and of course they hold the performing assets and the performing loans.
So they're dividing the bad assets from the good assets, and they're keeping the ones that are still relatively high profile and performing, and they're putting all the really trashy, junk, grade Z, never ever going to be paid back into the public domain and the public ownership.
And the public will never pay back those loans, and the public will continuously get themselves further and further into debt.
example they encourage people to take cars that they own 100 trade them in and put themselves into debt like now that now they get a new car but they put it they're on debt they've increased their debt pile you know and the debt levels are continuing to increase it sounds like you're describing hell and and And on top of that, now the police, the government, the minions, 10% of Texans with arrest warrants, more fines, more fees.
The other part of the equation is those of us that don't want to drink corn syrup, be zombies, eat GMO, We're going to be like Planet of the Apes being chased by the CPS and police with them with nets scooping us up to take us back to the FEMA camp so they get more chips to buy Big Gulp beers and sit there buying hookers at the slot machines.
I mean, just a hell force of like lobotomized zombies.
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You know, they've got these websites out there, like mailpoop.com, that send dog poop to people.
And my thought is that if Goldman Sachs is so smart at turning junk into commoditized mortgage obligations and all these other flora and fauna of the financial engineering sphere, turn this dog poop into $100 or $200 or $300 billion worth of dog poop collateralized.
Hey, they took your program and tried to make a commodity out of terror attacks.
do it.
If you send them dog poop, I'm sure they will try to turn it into a dog poop.
Well, I think that, you know, Hollywood has gotten a free ride.
during this whole breakdown of society in America.
Where are these Hollywood producers and Hollywood stars?
If you look at a movie, a TV show, for example, like Entourage on HBO, you've got these punks in Hollywood making half a million dollars a day, giving each other quarter million dollar cars as presents, And they portray this life that people watching that, it must be like, you know, mental crack on your head that you want to just run to Hollywood immediately.
Meanwhile, what is that industry doing to support this economy as a whole?
Absolutely nothing.
They're probably the most irresponsible industry in America today.
You know, all this Enron accounting that we talk about, and all the high-powered corporate fraud and banking fraud we talk about, it had a name back in the 70s and 80s.
They used to call it Hollywood accounting.
Now, Hollywood accounting has become the global accounting methodology, where they book profits today, and they defer losses in perpetuity.
That's what Hollywood accounting is about, and that's what all these banks are now doing.
If they make a gain today speculating with our money, they book it today as a profit and pay that as a bonus.
If they lose money, they keep it on their books for 20, 30, 40 years, and they package it as a loan, and they trade it with each other in perpetuity, and nobody ever captures that loss!
And that is draining the economy of much-needed capital, which is causing... And what else they do... What else they do, as you know, but people won't know, like, let's say you're part of a film, you're supposed to get a percentage.
They always factor that in a pool into losses, so they never pay the underlings.
They never pay the little people that are involved in any ownership.
Well, part of the casino gulag model is you're willing to work for free, and in Los Angeles, of course, you get a shot at working at an agency or something.
You're willing to work for nothing for a year or two, but now they're applying that to the car companies and pharmaceutical companies, and everyone is now being asked to work for nothing for a year or two, or go on furlough for a year or two.
Well, Buffett is unfortunately, he, this scandal is not reflecting well on the Oracle from Omaha, I'm afraid.
Because if you look at his statements and the timing of his statements and the fact that he loaned money to Goldman Sachs and they pay him 10% on that money.
The American citizen pays Goldman Sachs money and they get nothing.
He's got a warrant to convert stock at $115.
The stock's now trading, I didn't check today, but over $140 or something like that.
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Really always great to have him on with us.
You can go to MaxKeiser.com and find out about all the different TV shows and the different work he does, the great articles he writes, the little videos he also posts, which are some of my favorites when he shoots at his house.
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I want to go to calls, but earlier we were joking around some, but a point that Max made that is so central is that this is like rust.
This is entropy.
This is, you know, the frog gets asked by the scorpion, take me across the river.
And the frog says, you'll sting and kill me.
And the scorpion says, no, I won't.
I promise.
And so the frog gives him a ride across on the other side.
Scorpion stings him, and as the frog's dying, he says, why'd you do that to me?
He says, I'm a scorpion.
There's always going to be evil, corrupt people and groups and piratical organizations.
And they convince the public that evil doesn't exist if it's in a fancy suit.
It only exists if it's some grungy homeless person or something.
And so because we don't think old, ball-headed men in $5,000 suits can be evil, when that's actually some of the most evil people, they could just run wild a free hand.
They've openly set up a police state, they're openly telling us we have no rights in this country, they're openly trying to consolidate and keep the gains they've gotten, ill-gotten, and expand them.
And it really does, as Einstein said.
You know, the most dangerous and worst people in this world are not the evil people.
It's the good people that know it and do nothing.
And of course, Thomas Jefferson said the only thing that evil men and tyrants need to flourish is that good men and women do nothing.
And it's only gonna get worse unless we stand up and recognize this is evil and stop rationalizing.
So Max made a great point there, and I more and more realize that is the fact.
You look in the mirror, that's who caused this.
We caused this, we gotta fix it.
And the enemy, the parasites are gonna fight us.
They think they deserve all this now.
Usually evil is sneaking around and circuitous.
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Now it's out in the open like King Kong going, I rule you!
Just go ahead and plug it and then ask a question to Max Keiser.
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Okay, it's markettoolbox.com, and you can download the desktop portal there, but I also took your advice and started my own show, and I do a show every Sunday night, and in the two hours prior to going live with our market commentary, I stream sometimes, I did the Obama deception, I did some of that.
Brother, that's fine, and listen, I can have a little of this plugging etiquette, but it takes over the show.
You better ask, do you have a question for Max Keiser?
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Yes, I do.
My question for Max is, who I'm also a big fan of, is that at the end of last year when they changed the rules when you buy gold futures, so now you have your choice of getting two kinds of paper instead of the gold, what do you think will happen when the people wake up and realize the gold's not really there?
Very good question, and I wanted to get into gold.
And this is on your show, Alex, I talked about this last year.
I was anticipating a run on the COMEX and that people would expect their physical delivery of gold and we would break the stranglehold.
Because what happens is, the reason there is no gold there is because they've created more futures contracts than there is physical bullion.
It's called naked short selling.
They create futures contracts on gold that doesn't exist.
And then they sell those contracts in the open market.
And of course, when you sell something, the price goes down.
But they're selling stuff That they themselves have created a futures contract based on bullion that's not there.
And they've traded millions and millions of ounces of bullion that doesn't exist.
So the caller makes the good point, is that when finally there is a rush, and for the first time, Alex, the central banks around the world are now becoming net buyers of gold.
Max, go ahead.
Okay, we just lost him.
been the biggest movers in the gold market.
And this is going to give some support finally.
And yeah, it's going to bust wide open.
You'll see gold trade at an inflation-adjusted price, probably at $2,000 an ounce.
And you've got to be ready for that, because that's part of...
Well, I mean, regardless, we've seen a lot of the drop in housing.
Supposedly it's going to continue for a while, but its descent is slowing.
So that's some good news, but we're still falling.
But the commercial real estate has just begun.
And most of the experts, economists and others, have got good track records of predicting this stuff and forecasting it say that is a big, big, big issue.
But why don't you explain your question because you're also making a statement.
And then we'll ask Max because Max is back on.
Go ahead and ask your question of Max Keiser.
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I just wanted to know if you thought commercial real estate was going to collapse this fall, create a money grab problem with this martial law thing that you keep talking about with the swine flu. - Yeah.
Hey Alex, good to see your show, and I watched your movie Endgame last night.
Great information, it does line up with Bible prophecy, but I wanted to ask you and your guest if you guys knew of a story here where veteran groups are blasting Obama for wanting to institute a plan where a soldier's private health insurance will pay for their war wounds or injuries incurred during military service.
Hey, man, I do have a comment for Max. - Actually, a question, and I have a comment for you.
I'm a DOT TV subscriber and have been for years, and I have to say that yesterday, your conversation with Steve Quayle and taking it back to the spring, I have to say that you really have been painting things with wide swaths so that you can say that you called something.
And you know, the broadcast you did back in the spring where you had your special Saturday broadcast, you literally changed directions in the course of less than a week.
Yesterday, you were on coast to coast, And you changed your opinion last night in less than 12 hours with Nori.
You said, well, I think it could be a big hoax.
And then, 12 hours before that, you're on with Steve Quayle, and you guys are saying that it looks like it's 80% that this is the real thing.
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And I mean, it... No, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute.
So it's not like you're... I mean, I came in in the start of the year in January and February and March and said, I believe they're going to try some flu thing, whether it's a hoax or not, as their cover.
Then it happened in January.
Then I got the Level 6 document.
People didn't believe it.
Then it was proven mainstream news to be real.
The MIAC report, the clergy response teams, all the stuff we break.
And I said they're moving big on this, whether it's a hoax or whether it's not.
And I have guests on that say they think it's the big one.
I had Dr. Nyman on last hour saying he believes it's real, legitimate, take the vaccine.
We're having lots of different views and ideas on, and I've always said, it could either be a hoax to sell vaccine, or it could really be deadly, or they could be releasing it.
I'm always... I mean, if an open debate and discussion confuses you, then I would just, you know, get more vitamins, increase your mental acuity.
But if you want to invent controversy on what I'm saying, be a lawyer!
Knock yourself out!
Make crap up to the jury!
I don't care!
I stand on my own!
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I do want to ask Kaiser a quick question, but let me just say to you that the reason that I pointed that out, Alex, is that because painting it with a wide swath allows you to say in retrospect that you called it.
And that's why I think it diminishes... Alright, listen, that's enough.
Well, thank you for that ringing endorsement, Alex.
A couple of points.
You know, as you say, I put my content out on any venue that I can.
In the United States, the Huffington Post is the only place that publishes my stuff at all because of my close friendship with Alec Baldwin, who really got me onto the Huffington Post.
And I asked him specifically if he could do that as a favor for me, to get me introduced to them.
And they have, to their credit, they have been playing my videos from Press TV, which is, of course, comes out... Which is attacking Obama!
No, listen, listen, I don't mind people disagreeing, they go to the head of the line.
It's that I'm sick of intellectual dishonesty.
The information I cover is what matters.
What Max covers, make your own decision.
They make excuses not to get involved, not to take action.
All they do is critique us in the trenches trying to stop this thing.
I'm sick of them.
I don't like them.
It's not that they're criticizing me.
I don't like them as a person because I see what they are.
Chicken neck pieces of trash.
Now go ahead and ask your question.
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Absolutely.
My question to Max, I want to talk about the most under-reported story of 2009, and this is a story that appeared in Financial Times and Bloomberg, and it deals with two Japanese nationals crossing the Swiss-Italian border with over $200 billion worth of Treasury bonds in their fake suitcase drawer that they had.
These two nationals were released Right after it was discovered that they were carrying the bond, they were intercepted.
Yeah, I think it's related to the Bank of International Settlements.
And as part of their need under the Basel II agreement to keep certain reserves as a percentage of loans on their books, They need to show equity.
And I think that those bonds, whether they're counterfeit or not, They're still going to use them as collateral to keep the loans going to these other central banks who then loan out to the commercial banks on Wall Street.
So whether, it doesn't matter if they're counterfeit or not counterfeit, they're still being used as collateral to make loans.
You know, I try to not blow up at people, but I know I'm for real.
I know I'm good.
I know I'm covering real issues.
I know I bleed red, white, and blue.
I want to defeat the globalists.
People keep saying I'm disinfo or an agent or Kaiser's bad or whatever.
Believe me, they don't want us on air exposing their eugenics manual and how they're drugging the water.
They don't want us on air exposing the chemtrails.
They don't want us on air exposing the IMF and World Bank.
They don't want us on air exposing the Federal Reserve.
They don't like what we're doing one bit.
They're scared of us.
They've killed and set up a lot of us.
They've harassed the hell out of me and I don't care.
And what I just don't like is that self-assured enjoyment.
You know, that enjoyment about, oh, well, you know, your thing was... I mean, if I wrote a letter to the editor and it was in the Austin American Statesman, would that mean I was then for the Austin American Statesman and their owners?
And the lies, you know, I'm not the one taxing you and controlling you and coming after your guns and your pension funds and devaluing your dollar.
I'm not the one destroying this republic.
And so many people spend their time and energy nitpicking and fighting over this and fighting over that.
We have total tyranny coming down on us.
You know, people make up one lie after another or distort and twist about me and literally it's all lies.
Ninety-eight percent.
They'll mix like two percent truth into some of the crap to give it some, you know, veneer of reality.
But let's just say I am the ultimate evil.
At least tell people not to take the flu shot.
At least warn people about what's going on.
I'm also shocked By the intellectual moronists, because I know some of the people aren't government agents.
They're kind of just repeating what COINTELPRO and Operation Chaos has put out.
Google Operation Chaos, the FBI did.
I get shocked by how People intellectually can't even have debates or discussions or hear multiple ideas put out for discussion.
I don't know.
I never thought of myself as that smart and now I more and more realize there's a lot of people smarter than I am.
There's also a lot of people who are just dumber than dirt or who want to be dumb.
It's like they don't have regular proper thinking processes and I don't understand it.
The New World Order is coming down on us.
Let's just say I'm the worst person in the world.
Let's just forget that and decide that's the case.
Can we now move on dealing with major issues?
Okay?
I mean, you know, I need to be attacked on what I say and what I do.
So does Max Keiser.
And what we say and do is get outside the box.
Think for yourself.
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It's not enough to go buy a bunch of guns and ammo.
Last time I was getting so sped up, I said I shot it there at 6,000 yards.
I shot it there at 600 yards.
The point is, it's not enough to just buy rifles and handguns and things.
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So I wanted to get him on and talk about that, but also real quick, I got a snapshot on his view of Obama introducing all these draconian anti-gun bills.
I mean, it's happening.
Just like he says his plan isn't government health care, but you read it, it's pure takeover.
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Ignatius Piazza, Doc, it's good to have you on with us.
You bet.
I am in ranting mode with all the things that are happening in the world right now.
Let's just, before we get into what's happening with the Second Amendment, tell folks about Front Sight, the courses, and why they need to get involved, or even if people can't travel to outside Pahrump, Nevada, out there in the high desert, beautiful, they can do stuff online at FrontSight.com.
unidentified
Yeah, that's correct.
We provide gun training reports.
If they go to FrontSight.com, that's F-R-O-N-T-S-I-G-H-T.com, Uh, they'll see the opportunity signed up for 15 gun training reports.
It's actually, uh, more like 30 gun training reports.
We just haven't, uh, changed the, uh, changed the, uh, ad on it.
And, uh, they're absolutely free and it's the same information that we share with people that, you know, literally spend thousands of dollars and travel, you know, across the country to attend our courses.
And there's also training manuals that are available that are the same techniques that we offer in our courses.
So, if people can't make it to Pahrump, they certainly can begin getting some training and get the manuals right off of our website.
But the real big offer that we've been running for some time now, and it's getting close to the end, we originally set it up for 3,000 free handguns, and I believe we're approaching that number.
So, if they want to take advantage of this, they need to jump on it pretty quick.
But it's our four-day defensive handgun course, plus an additional day for the 30-state concealed weapon permit.
And when they take advantage of that, which we offer literally pennies on the dollar off of our normal course prices, they can also get a free Springfield Armory XD pistol in the caliber of their choice, 9mm, 40, or 45.
And it's been extremely popular, so if they're interested in that, they definitely need to jump on it.
Because if people don't have at least the basics, they're going to get in a lot of trouble if they just try to put the bullets in a gun when they need it at 3 a.m.
unidentified
Well, that's absolutely true.
We tell people that when the flag flies, when you really need to use a gun to defend your life, you're only going to be about half as good as you are on your best day on the training range simply from the stress.
Of that lethal encounter.
And if you haven't been on the training range, imagine what your skills are going to be like.
They're going to be absolutely pathetic.
And the only reason you'll survive an encounter like that is because the person you're going up with is more incompetent than you are.
And who wants to bet their life on that?
You know, I certainly didn't.
And that's pretty much how I got my start.
I was, you know, your basic gun owner.
I owned a lot of guns, shot the guns at the range, but had never had any formal training.
And then a relatively minor incident, it was a random drive-by shooting in my quiet, upscale neighborhood, brought me to the realization that, hey, even though I own guns, even though I had them in the gun safes, I really didn't know how to use them if I needed to.
So I started training all over the country and trained with some of the best instructors at the time and received the highest level certifications that all these different schools and instructors provided.
And then I decided to open up a facility that Would really cater to not only private citizens, but also law enforcement so they could train together and provide a level of training that far exceeds what the average law enforcement or military officer could receive from their own agencies or departments.
And that's how Front Sight was born way back in 1996 with 10 students in a two-day defensive handgun class.
And since that time, we literally have grown, doubled and tripled every year.
to the point where we now train more people on a single weekend than most of the major schools train all year.
So it's really a great opportunity for people to come out and get a level of training that they can't get anywhere else at any price.
And this latest offer with the free handgun just sweetens it that much more.
Well, people need to stop procrastinating, and I know I do.
I mean, I used to be really good with a rifle, a shotgun, a handgun.
Now I'm, you know, better than average.
But you really lose it even when you have the training.
And people that are scared of guns, it's not magic, it's not that hard, it's very simple, and you guys have the best instructors out there in the country.
We're not just saying that.
Frontsight.com.
Doctor, I also get a lot of calls Yeah, we have a toll-free number.
It's 800-987-7719.
Now, the last time I gave this number out, it lit our six-line phone tree up for about an hour.
They can call so that they can find out about some of the different courses and how they can take them.
unidentified
Yeah, we have a toll-free number.
It's 800-987-7719.
Now, the last time I gave this number out, it lit our six-line phone tree up for about an hour.
So if you call that number and you get a busy signal, it's because all of our staff are answering the calls of the other listeners.
Okay, in closing, Doc, what is it like to see this assault on the Second Amendment?
And bills where the Attorney General can just say without judge or jury, you can't ever own a gun if you're on a no-fly list, a million, two hundred thousand and growing, you can't own a gun.
Bills where he can just ban any guns he wants with his new executive imperial power.
Bills to ban importation.
Bills to ban a bunch of rifles.
I mean, I've never seen such an assault with the media parroting, there is no gun bail, there is no anti-gun bail, there is no gun control.
You know, it's a conspiracy theory.
It's a conspiracy theory, like some evil parrot.
That seems to really be freaking people out even more.
And then they say, oh, crazy people are buying guns at record levels.
But the bills are there!
unidentified
Yeah, well, my feeling about this has always been that, you know, they're not going to fool the American people.
The latest huge buying surge in guns and ammunition, I think, sent a pretty clear message Uh, to the government that, you know, they're not fooling anybody.
And, uh, this is all, you know, all the more reason why just having guns and ammunition and survival gear is not enough.
You really need to have training so that you know how to use it.
And, uh, you know, there's the purpose of Frontside is to positively change the image of gun ownership by taking, you know, normal, regular law-abiding citizens And bringing them up to a level of skill at arms that surpasses law enforcement and military standards.
So the true backbone, the true strength of this country isn't in a standing army.
It isn't in the National Guard.
It isn't in the armed services.
It's in the everyday average citizen who stands ready, willing, and able to defend himself, his family, his community, and his country if needed from any enemies, foreign or domestic.
So that's what we're all about.
And we teach responsible use of firearms, again, to levels that exceed that of the military and law enforcement.
But the difference is we do it in a very compassionate, caring environment.
There's no boot camp mentality.
There's no drill instructor attitude.
You literally can bring your, you know, your wife and your kids to Front Sight, and they're all going to experience a positive, life-changing experience there at Front Sight, to where they leave empowered and have the ability to defend themselves with the weapon of their choice.
And I know you've said that even if people don't get the training from you, they better get some basic training somewhere in this dangerous world.
People defending themselves is the number one skill children should be taught, young people, before they're taught anything.
But, of course, that's not taught.
It's like it's bad to be able to defend yourself.
And, of course, as Thomas Jefferson said, the firearm is the best way.
It's certainly good to be physically fit as well in hand-to-hand combat and things like that, but the firearm is the best and most efficient way to defend yourself.
So I hope people will visit FrontSite.com and get signed up for the courses or get signed on to the free email list or check out all the free courses and things you have online at FrontSite.com or 800-987-7719.
Rules for Radicals, I think Saul Olenski, Google that for me guys, Rules for Radicals, I think he wrote that in In like the 50s or something?
I forget the exact.
I've scanned through the book.
I've got a copywriter somewhere.
And then hundreds of years ago, back in the 1770s, the Illuminati, the guy got struck by lightning.
It wasn't in the last century.
So I'm not really following him.
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Well, anyway, what I was looking at as I've been listening to you, I've been rereading it.
And there's seven of these arguments to go through to get control of all means of publicity, thereby get the people's minds off of government and focus their attention on athletics, sex books, plays, and other thereby get the people's minds off of government and focus their Thank you.
Divide the people into hostile groups.
Destroy the people's faith in their natural leadership ability and religious affiliations.
Always preach true democracy, but seize power As ruthlessly as possible by... Oh yeah, that's the communist, uh, C.C.
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Rob Dew, my producer, my producer, one of the producers is telling me he's getting emails saying, You had Dr. Nyman on.
Does that mean we should all take the shots?
I I'm not taking the shot.
I don't trust anything these eugenicists give.
There could be some deadly plague killing everybody.
I'm not taking it.
They've been caught sterilizing people with these.
I had a medical doctor who runs the big huge flu tracking website.
I want to give you his perspective.
We have multiple views here.
You make your decision.
It's not like we're Catholic and I'm the Pope or something and what I say you do and I say eat fish on Friday and you go do it.
Or, you know, we're all Jewish and I'm your rabbi and I'm saying don't eat pork.
It's a free country, you can do what you want.
We're going to have other medical doctors on.
I just saw Nyman's thing years ago, saw his flu tracker, and it was about this much thought.
Get that guy on, let's get his perspective.
You know, that's how it works.
I go, this looks interesting, get them on.
It's not like it's some giant, you know, master calculation of what to do.
We don't know what's going to happen with this flu.
I don't trust this criminal government as far as I can throw them.
Caprende.
So, I think it's all a bunch of hype.
1,700 dead, he said.
A couple hundred in the U.S.
He said it's 300 now.
I mean, compared to regular flu, that's nothing.
He seems to think it's incredibly bad and gonna mutate.
Sounds like baloney to me, but he's a virologist and medical doctor.
There are other medical doctors saying it's manufactured.
He says it isn't.
So we're gonna give you all views here, and then I'm gonna tell you what I think.
We are speculating.
When we speculate, we lay it out.
We're not speculating about mass graves in FEMA and the military and how it all looks like it's built up and staged to this point.
So, where I stand is very, very clear on that.
God, it's like I'm the prophet or something and everything I say is absolutely gospel.
When I believe something a hundred percent, I'll tell you.
On this flute thing, we know it's a hoax.
The question is, how bad is it going to be?
Is it real?
Everything in my gut tells me it's staged.
All the evidence shows that.
I just don't know what they're planning to stage.
I can just see when it's staged.
You can see them all dressed up, and they're actors, and they're following scripts, and it's all set up.
Alright, let's talk to Stuart Mass.
Stuart, go ahead.
unidentified
Hey, I've been listening to you for a long time, and when you're wrong, you admit it, and sometimes you call things dead on, which is a lot, and sometimes you sort of brush things with a wide stroke, because there's a lot of different possibilities.
Like, they could try to push something, find out it's not working, back off, like you say, you know what I mean?
So many times we know they're going to do something.
We all, you the listeners, expose them.
They change plans.
But I can't expect it to be, who's the guy in the X-Files who's psychic and knows it?
I mean, I don't know what color cars are driving down the road a mile from here.
I'm not psychic.
I don't know if it's going to rain tomorrow.
I'm not a weatherman.
I mean, I can't expect to be totally psychic and know everything.
I'm just here doing a radio show, having guests on.
Go ahead.
unidentified
Yeah, it's like just part of the math.
Uh, psychosis or whatever you want to, everybody, we're all criticizing each other down here.
Meanwhile, they're killing us, but I believe, like you said, I believe that whether or not it's real or not now, I think they're so psycho, even if they do try to come out with something that's, you know, more mild of a flu, eventually, if they really get desperate, they will release something bad.
So I believe these people are trying to, like, soft kill Like almost like they're they're they're pushing like they're gonna like like if you take all the issues you talk about We're in so much trouble and they're gonna exactly I got a lot of I gotta let you go shows over.
Thank you great points They're gauging a lot of different battle plans a lot of different operations going they can jump a B and C D. They got different plans They're running them all they could do combos of all of them or just with one or just the two or three and not the other And we're here tracking it all, trying to figure out what they're doing.
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