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Big Brother.
Mainstream media.
Government cover-ups.
You want answers?
Well, so does he.
He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
alex jones
Welcome, ladies and gentlemen.
Welcome and thank you for joining us.
I am in my new studios.
This is our official maiden voyage today.
We are going to be live on this Tuesday edition for the next four hours.
Again, thank you for joining us.
It is December 16th, 2008.
And let me tell you about some of the guests we have coming up.
We have the blogger, Ben Holstrom, who first reported on the Marines to be involved at checkpoints in violation of posse commentatus and every canon of a free society.
uh... out in san bernardino california outside twenty nine palms it was then picked up a local news talk station and i have the press releases put out by the california highway patrol where they said the marines will be taking part uh...
in hundreds of square miles of uh...
different uh...
checkpoints and they did indeed carry out those checkpoints then they lied to the public and said no marines were involved but the local news talk station uh...
we have the news director on yesterday was able to to send his people out there to witness the Marines aiding in the checkpoint.
And here is the sobriety driver's license East German checkpoint.
It says the sobriety driver's license checkpoint will be operated from 9 p.m. to 2.30 a.m.
The media may contact Barstow Dispatch Center at 760-255-8700 on December 12th.
And this is going through the 30th into the end of the year.
Now, they then put out another press release, and this press release says that the Marines would be involved.
The Morongo Basin Office of the California Highway Patrol ship, in conjunction with the San Bernardino County Sheriff's Department and the U.S. Marine Corps Military Police will conduct a joint sobriety driver's checkpoint on Friday, December 12th.
So that happened, and checkpoints throughout the weekend continued and are ongoing.
Every single night out there on the highways, they then put out another press release a day later saying, oh no, there's no Marines involved and then the media went out there and there were Marines.
Now the public is on my message boards and on the InfoWars.com and PrisonPlanet.com comment pages saying that there are no Marines, it isn't true, it isn't happening or The same people that were saying that we were lying about this are now saying, so what?
It's good.
It's okay to have Marines on the streets of America.
It doesn't violate posse comitatus.
So, you talk about total double-think and denial going on.
It is happening, and we have Gunnery Sergeant Cox, or...
Humbertson, they tell us one of the two, will be coming on the show from the California Marines, MCA GCC Public Affairs.
That is coming up in the next hour.
So we'll be going over all of that for you today.
My thanks to the local news station.
KCDZFM for getting me these two press releases that the Marines and the chips are denying even exist right now.
So, you can walk up to the Marines and touch them at the checkpoints, but they will tell you to your face, we do not exist.
Just like at Waco when the Delta Force was smashing into the building and setting it on fire, they were broadcasting, this is not an assault, this is not an assault, this is not an assault, and as the Davidians ran out the back, they were gunned down and they kept saying, not an assault, not an assault, not an assault.
Military psych warfare being used against the American people.
So again, it doesn't matter how many videos of Marines at checkpoints we have, how many videos of Marines arresting U.S. citizens we have, going back to the late 1990s, no matter how many videos we have of the Army coming up with the FBI and telling us to turn our cameras off in Central Texas, no matter what we have on tape, no matter what is admitted, no matter if the Washington Post and CBS CNN and everybody else announcing that they will use troops in America and even foreign troops in the United States.
The public has been trained for decades that this did not exist.
And so they are saying no, no, no, no, no.
It doesn't exist.
This is mass mind control, ladies and gentlemen.
Then we have Wayne Madsen of the Wayne Madsen Report joining us in the fourth hour today.
I have got so much news on the economy, the police state, the up-and-coming Constitutional Convention.
We will cover it all right here on the maiden voyage out of the new studio.
Thank you for joining us.
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Big Brother.
Mainstream media.
Government cover-ups.
You want answers?
Well, so does he.
He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
alex jones
By the way, we're going to have Tex Mars in studio for two hours on Thursday, and it looks like Jim Mars will be in studio with us as well on Friday.
Congressman Ron Paul joins us right at the start of this worldwide transmission against tyranny and defense of liberty tomorrow.
Wednesday morning, the 17th of December, 2008.
I do want to take some phone calls here in the first hour on any news item, any issue you wish to discuss.
I would imagine you'd want to talk about what's happening with the economy or the fact that the Marines and the Highway Patrol have been deceptive in California about the Marines being involved in the checkpoints and there's so many other issues.
So the toll-free number to join us is 1-800-HELP.
259-9231-800-259-9231.
You know, I mentioned this on Friday.
I talked a little bit about it on Sunday, but I really haven't gotten into enough detail on it, so today I'm going to attempt to spend some time on this.
Constitution rewrite only two states away.
Critics say this is a horrible time to try such a crazy scheme.
Kurt Nimmo did a report over the weekend on it.
Globalist Constitutional Convention dealt a defeat in Ohio.
One of the two states that are trying to pass it, but they're coming back attempting to do it.
On Wednesday of last week, the Ohio Judiciary Committee were confronted by members of the Campaign for Liberty, Ohio, Freedom Alliance, We Are Change Ohio, John Birch Society, the Institute for Principled Policy, Constitution Party of Ohio, the Libertarian Party of Ohio, who testified against the House resolution there in the legislature to be one of the final states to send this through.
Again, they're only two states away.
And Ohio called for an article Thank you.
I know most listeners of this radio show know what a constitutional convention means.
Some may not.
We have not had one since 1913 when they gave us the 17th Amendment that took the senators away from the states before the legislatures would appoint them.
That would mean they were creatures of the state, a powerful tool for the 10th Amendment.
Now, they are popularly elected, which they call pure democracy, but it's not, because it makes the federal power be overwhelming.
Instead of elected representatives that you elect at the state level, they then appoint with another vote, which is democratic, in the republic form of government, the senator.
They also gave us the income tax in 1913, and a lot more.
What are the groups saying that are trying to pass the Constitutional Convention, and have quietly gotten 30 plus states.
They only need two more.
32 states have already done it.
If they get 34, it's a done deal.
And by law, it goes to the full states.
And then, look out.
Now, they tried this in the 70s, the 80s, the 90s.
And we were always aware of it.
Patriots were always aware of it and fought it.
And they've never gotten up to this number since 1913.
Since they were successful.
Normally they'd get 15, 20 states and we would beat it back, we would stop it.
This was done so sneakily, so quietly, that no one was even aware of this until last week.
And, uh, I did get emails from people, you know, telling me about it, and, uh, well, again, we dropped the ball.
I mean, I'm not omnipresent.
We can't keep track of everything, and I appreciate listeners panically calling the office and commenting on the InfoWars comment pages and Prison Planet comment pages saying, Alex, get on this.
Yes, we are on it now, and we want to commend We Are Change and others in Ohio who were on this weeks ago.
That's why we need listeners to support this radio show, because I do not have the funds to hire more people than I need just to read the email, just to prepare it in folders and give me the information that's important from all the spam and baloney that we get and all the Viagra ads and mortgage ads and the rest of it.
We're a small organization, ladies and gentlemen.
That's why purchasing the books and videos at InfoWars.com or calling a toll-free number to get them or having a PrisonPlanet.tv membership or supporting our sponsors is so important because we are maxed out here on what we're spending and what we're doing to be able to fund this operation.
The imploding economy is affecting everybody, including...
This operation, because the video sales, again, are about half of what they've been the last few years, because the economy is in so much trouble, and that's how I fund my operation.
Just imagine, as this intensifies, as we get deeper and deeper into this, you may hear me put out the call for just straight up donations, so that we can just maintain, much less expand, and we need to expand.
Now we need to continue, without the money bomb we couldn't have done what we've done now, moving into a bigger office so we could physically hire more people and so that we could physically produce a better radio show and a TV show to get the word out.
And I can think of no better place, more effective place to support, bang for the buck, what we're able to do with my news websites and the radio show and the films.
So that said, We are on top of that.
I was busy running around last week dealing with the Marines and the rest of it and missed that, so I thank you for giving me a heads up.
Dollar staggers as U.S. unleashes cash flood and deficit expands.
That's Bloomberg Financial, the biggest foreign exchange strategist and investors say the best may be over the dollar after a four-month 24 percent rally.
It lost 5.9 percent in just the last week.
And it goes on to say the Federal Reserve is, quote, turning up the presses.
But it isn't really printing more money, it's just shipping trillions of dollars offshore to offshore banks that are openly setting up the world government.
And that's why gold has gone up over $140 in the last three weeks.
They artificially tried to manipulate it in the paper market with gold on the ComEx, and that is now being reversed very, very quickly.
Now, continuing here with the news, report Mexico more dangerous than Iraq.
This is from Newsmax, and for years I've been pointing out that the State Department, since 2005, and that's when I first noticed it, they've actually been listing it since 2004, lists the Texas-Mexico border and the Arizona border Mexico border as more dangerous than the West Bank per capita.
Sure, you've got a bus bombing every month, or a hand grenade attack, or a rocket attack might kill somebody once or twice a month in Israel, and that's certainly terrible, and what's happening to the Palestinians is terrible.
You know, they're dying every day.
But statistically, it is more dangerous on the border with the United States and Mexico than in anywhere in the world.
I mean rocket attacks, hand grenade attacks, mass murders, hundreds of women alone every year, kidnapped out of several Texas border towns, and sacrificed.
Again, do not believe me.
You can't make this up.
It's been in Texas Monthly.
It's been in the Dallas Morning News.
But it hasn't gotten the attention it should.
I mean, every few months I see a new story of where they find ten, twenty, thirty, forty, in one case a hundred and something bodies right over the Texas-Mexico border of dead women with their hearts cut out because the drug dealers are Satanists.
The particular drug cartel on the Texas-Mexico border from Boquillas right over to the border with New Mexico uh...
with the uh...
major uh...
uh... city there again it sounds like the twilight zone if you don't believe me google satanic murders on the texas mexico border but that's a small part of it this year so far in the last time i saw the number was two months ago this year so far on the texas mexico border according to the houston chronicle two thousand people are dead and that was nine months into the year Yeah, I haven't seen a story since then.
We just know that the...
situation is intensifying.
The escalating drug war in Mexico has now made America's southern neighbor a more dangerous place than Iraq, according to Strategy Page, a military affairs research group site.
This month, about 26 people a day are dying from criminal and terrorist violence a day in Iraq.
That's a bit lower than the death toll in northern Mexico, which on a bad day, like last November 3rd, saw 58 people killed.
The website writes in a headline post, We're good.
of san diego trans border institute uh...
president called ron is a point in estimated forty five thousand friends and eighty thousand police officers in eighteen states in mexico now again the most dangerous areas on the two thousand two hundred miles stretch from the pacific ocean or california borders mexico uh...
and then uh...
to the border of texas uh...
with mexico with lorado and old man uh...
the other uh...
cities that are down there on the border with the lorado in the way the lorado and again other major cities there there were tourists meccas and are now boarded up shops and shut down hotels and that was before the economy went south they were shut down three four five years ago I think?
on the city because things are so bad.
Now, understand what's happening here.
And, you know, they caught the head of Mexico's anti-drug police a month ago dealing drugs, being paid hundreds of millions a year, tens of millions a month.
They're constantly catching basically just hundreds of high-level members of the government.
C.I.A.
aircraft earlier this year, a C.I.A.
aircraft crash with three and a half tons of pure cocaine, and it was an official C.I.A.
aircraft also used to shuttle ghost site victims, people that have been kidnapped, including U.S. citizens, to be flown overseas, so it's just totally corrupt, and what's happened is The United States is giving more than 20 billion dollars a year.
Bush proposed a few months ago to give over 140 billion, I believe it was 146 if you can pull that story up, 140 plus billion dollars to quote, fight drugs.
What's happened is the 400 plus billion dollar a year narcotics trade just in the United States and Canada a year is so profitable that there are heavily armed powerful sub-cartels or cowboy groups that are challenging the CIA, that are challenging the big US Federal Reserve banks that openly launder the money.
And so the United States has been launching drug wars, but to control the drugs and to knock out their competition in Colombia and other areas for decades.
Now there's a full-bore drug war trying to knock out their competition in Mexico, but that's only part of it.
There's all the human smuggling, all the other corruption that comes with it.
Every week I see another Texas sheriff caught dealing drugs, the government's dealing drugs, they're killing police.
But when that happens, What happens when U.S. police are killed, it's covered up because it's politically incorrect to show that police are being killed on the Texas border.
tom brokaw
Today, unlike any other in the long course of American history, a terrorist act of war against this country.
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Bin Laden.
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Some U.S. investigators believe that there are Israelis again very much engaged in spying in and on the U.S. I'm aware that some Israeli citizens have been detained.
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The big issue with Mexico is that the systemic institutionalized corruption has now spread all over the Southwest into the police, law enforcement.
Into the mayors.
Into the sheriffs.
Into the constabulary.
It's now in Indiana.
It's now in Missouri.
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It's now in New York.
alex jones
And the police, if they don't get bought off, they just get scared and start turning a blind eye.
to the drug dealers.
It's easier to bust your teenager with some marijuana or if they're stupid enough to have ecstasy or to be taking it.
It's easier to throw them in the Huskow instead of going after the real crime.
The only way to stop the implosion of the United States and Mexico is to decriminalize heroin and cocaine and other narcotics.
And then all of the masses of money involved with prohibition historically will disappear, and the corruption will have to find another area to try to capitalize on.
And that's why the mafia lobbied to have liquor made illegal and actually used Christian front groups that they donated to to get that done.
With the last constitutional convention they had that passed alcohol prohibition.
That also happened in the last ConCon.
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Yeah.
alex jones
And then they had to have another convention, so I guess they had one more after 1913, to be able to amend it and get rid of it.
The drug war has been a great success.
It's corrupted the police, it's corrupted the military, it's corrupted the counties, the banks are laundering the money, and society is completely collapsing.
Meanwhile, I was reading a few days ago, and then strangely enough I was reminded by Gary Brownfield this morning with a guest, that in Missouri of all places they're going to make you pay on top of your hunting license and they say it's a privilege to hunt on your own property that you have to register your premises so we've we've we fought the feds on their premises ID and their animal ID there's no law they're just trying to force it through with regulatory orders and now the states themselves are coming and saying you've got to register your property and
then when you go get a hunting license they have to check your registration to be able to hunt on your own land and there's not even a law they say it is a privilege and this is to restrict and tax and regulate hunting They've banned hunting in most nations in Europe.
England has basically banned almost every form of hunting.
Though the royal family is exempt, they continue.
And this is all about destroying culture, domesticating man, taxing every cow, every chicken, every horse, every goat you have.
uh... regulators on your property that's all unfolding as well should show so that for other throw in the book at the citizens micromanaging every facet of our society but if you're mexican drug lords uh...
rocketing police stations are or newspapers uh...
in the united states it's uh...
kept very quiet and then have Border Patrol agents get shot at or somebody pulls a gun on them and they actually defend themselves.
They go to prison and get put in general population and beaten within an inch of their lives because they want the message sent to the Border Patrol not to do their job.
So the Border Patrol instead is told to go pick up trash on the side of the roads and then pull back a hundred miles from the border and harass U.S. citizens.
And it's been documented that they do not arrest illegal aliens.
They are there running checkpoints against citizens.
So absolutely disgusting.
Iraq to probe custody abuse of Bush shoe assailant.
As you know, on Sunday, this individual threw two shoes at the weasel who dodged them.
And reportedly, according to the French News Agency, he had his arm broken and his ribs broken.
And so that's going on.
He fared better than this fellow in the London Independent.
And it's a report also out of the AP, U.S. detainee dies in U.S. custody in Iraq.
He's one of thousands of detainees that die of heart attacks.
15-year-olds, 20-year-olds.
This guy was a 25-year-old man, pronounced dead by doctors, of a heart attack.
Kind of like they taser hundreds of people who are young.
They have heart attacks and they say, well, the taser had nothing to do with it.
He had a heart attack and died right after we tasered him, but it has nothing to do with it.
It's also been cases of police that get tasered, because they all do that, to be a taser officer.
And, uh, where they've had a lot of health problems or had heart attacks afterwards.
And, um, it's very, very serious, ladies and gentlemen.
But, hey, it's not the tasers, it's a new syndrome!
Where you just so happen to die after you're tasered because the taser makes you so scared.
Uh, continuing, uh, here, ladies and gentlemen.
It turns out that the Securities and Exchange Commission had had many complaints filed with them.
over the fact that this individual, Bernard Madoff, they're now saying it's a hundred billion.
It was fifty billion yesterday.
I was saying a hundred billion at least he stole in a Ponzi scheme run out of an official New York brokerage firm.
He's now been picked up and arrested.
He's admitting it was a scam.
And it turns out, of course, the Securities and Exchange Commission knew this was happening.
Well, yeah, I mean, the whole Derivatives market.
The whole securities market is a Ponzi scheme.
This guy was just doing what they do.
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We're on the march.
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alex jones
They're promised to come on this radio show and account for their activities running checkpoints.
In California against us worthless puke civilians.
Aaron Dykes coming up in about 20 minutes will give us a report on that.
I'm going to play the local news report here on air so we can analyze it.
And we're going to have one of the local news reporters on to discuss it.
So that is coming up.
Look at the London Independent today.
The man who conned the world.
Bankers, billionaires, charities, and film stars.
Oh, what are charities doing?
Investing the charity money in the derivatives market.
Hmm? Bankers, billionaires, charities, and film stars are among the victims Of the 50 billion fraudster, now I have reports saying it's 100 billion, this is just this article says 50 billion, whose exposure deals a fresh blow to financial confidence according to one tycoon facing a $9 billion loss alone.
Oh, there's tycoons out there that are facing $9 billion losses just in one investment alone?
But they tell us Bill Gates, only worth about 40 billion now, because he gave half his money to eugenics, is the richest man.
He is not the richest man.
There were people with billions of dollars a hundred years ago.
The fallout from the arrest of Wall Street grandee Bernard Madoff was continuing to grow last night as institution after institution detailed the extent of their possible losses and the victims of the UK were Headlined by the HSBC and the Royal Bank of Scotland, which is majority owned by the British government.
That's not true, it's really owned by the Private Bank of England.
The charity set up by the Hollywood director Steven Spielberg was among those revealed to be among the victims.
Again, he does that to be tax-free.
Those aren't really charities.
With a foundation set up by Mort Zuckerman, one of the richest media and property magnates in the United States.
Dozens of Jewish organizations, sports teams owners, and New Jersey Senator.
But the biggest Confessions were coming from Wall Street, from the City of London, and from the headquarters of European banks, and from banks around the world.
They have poured billions of dollars into his too-good-to-be-true investment fund, which appeared to be double-digit annual returns, come rain or shine.
And Japanese banks, Chinese banks, Arab banks, they all invested.
Now, that's all that's happening with Goldman Sachs, that's all that's happening with Bear Stearns, that's what's happening with Citibank, that's what's happening with all...
that's what they do!
That's what they do!
They take other people's investment money, and then they leverage it out with fractional reserve banking.
That's what Bill Clinton did, and then Bush expanded, but in the late 90s they Repealed the Glass-Steagall Act and other laws saying that private brokerage firms could engage in fractional reserve banking.
If you invest one dollar with their mutual fund, they take that and don't tell you the mutual fund is derivatives, and they take it and then they loan out the debt over and over again.
They take people's mortgages and then package them and sell them as a AAA rated gold.
I mean, there's hundreds of different vehicles.
that they're doing this with.
The point is, it's a total and complete Ponzi scheme and guess who gets left holding the bag?
These financial institutions, while the money is still seen as valuable before the Ponzi scheme is imploded, which they by themselves, by design, imploded.
They then buy real assets, then they tell you that it was a Ponzi scheme.
They blame some mid-level minion And then the very same institutions that engineered all of this poses our saviors.
Go to Congress eight and a half weeks ago now, and say, you've got to give us total power to buy these subprime mortgages.
They caused it all.
Anybody with half a brain could look at it and know it wasn't the subprime mortgages, it was the derivatives.
The subprime mortgage securities being a small part of.
In the tens of trillions of dollars.
Well, the derivatives are 1,500 trillion.
1.5 quadrillion.
And then they didn't take that money, while it still had value, and they buy real assets, and then they leave you, and me, and everybody else, holding the bag as the taxpayer, and they say, oh, the taxpayer will guarantee all of this.
But in truth, they know the Ponzi scheme's so big, no amount, A hundred trillion, two hundred trillion, three hundred trillion, four hundred trillion, five hundred trillion, six hundred trillion.
No amount of money could ever fix this.
And so the next part of the Ponzi scheme is the scam, selling the public that they've got to, quote, bail this out, when that is just another level of the Ponzi scheme.
And they've now taken the 8.5 trillion, and we haven't found out in almost two weeks what the latest numbers are going to be.
That's the old number of 8.5 trillion.
And they're actually taking that, they're letting the institutions fail, and they're taking that money and then leveraging it again through fractional reserve investing.
Shouldn't even call it banking.
So this is a military fraud operation, and now they're burning one of their mid-level people who kind of was an independent or wildcat or kind of a cowboy out on the side doing this himself.
unidentified
Thank you.
alex jones
And so now the media is blaming him for everything.
First it's Subprime Mortgage, now it's going to be this guy, MADF.
It's just unbelievable.
So for all of you out there, if they'll rip off Steven Spielberg, if they'll rip off all these big charities, if Wall Street will rip them off, For now over a hundred billion dollars and every day, you know, it's ten billion, then fifty billion, then a hundred billion.
It'll probably be, who knows, you know, hundreds and hundreds of billions more with just this one guy scam by the time we find out how bad it is because he leveraged it.
He engaged in fractional reserve scams, Ponzi scams.
And they're now saying the taxpayers will be on the line for that.
And so all these powerful charities and directors and people, they're going to end up getting some of their money back at the expense of dollar devaluation and at the expense of the American people.
So I'm seeing a lot of military folks and police in military and police forums going, I'm not worried about other pension funds or teachers losing their pension funds or Private industry or the automaker workers, the auto workers losing their pensions, I won't lose my pension because I work for the government.
And you know that's true.
They have announced in Congress in the last month and a string of hearings what they're going to do.
They're going to take everyone's pension fund, everyone's 401k, even if it's private, they're going to nationalize it.
They are then going to devalue it and put a huge tax on it yearly, and you will receive a government check that is a fraction of what you would have gotten if your investments weren't a fraud, that you were promised and told were safe.
So that's what's going to happen.
And then you will also not just have a reduced amount that's paid to you.
They will cheat you on cost of living.
Yeah. I think?
for the last five years.
That's why the standard of living has dropped so much.
But again, they're going to tell you that your pension fund check, your 401k, whatever, after it's nationalized, has a cost of living of only 6%, 7%.
And then it turns out the International Herald Tribune is reporting that another blow of the reputation of the Securities and Exchange Commission.
They were warned.
Complaints were filed years ago about this particular issue.
Bernard L. Madoff.
Investment Securities.
And they had not even gone and looked into it.
Of course, this is a class of criminals.
They wear suits.
They're handsome.
They went to Ivy League schools.
They speak well.
And they've taken over the country.
It was Madison Avenue.
It was Wall Street.
Out of Harvard and Yale, That set up with the British the OSS that set up naval and army intelligence And they set up the CIA with the National Security Act in 47 skull and bones was founded This is in the encyclopedia by the British East India and Dutch East India Company money the opium monopoly literally founded that As a British intelligence hive to train British intelligence operatives.
This is mainstream history.
Then they set up CIA out of OSS that is British intelligence.
And what is their main game?
Fractional Reserve Banking and Wall Street scams.
They own the money machines, they control the regulators, they're allowed to do whatever they want, whenever they want, however they want, and so that's how they've got a rigged game, and that's how they're able to buy up the world.
And if a smaller company, or a smaller diamond mine, or silver mine, or gold mine, or timber company starts cutting into their business, they send in regulators and shut them down for more than 70 years.
Big government is the tool of the elite, of the rich, of the powerful.
And so Christopher Cox, who leads the Securities and Exchange Commission, is doing its job protecting the criminals.
And when you find out that you have had 1.5 quadrillion stolen On your paycheck, on your credit card, on your taxpayer back, and you get angry about it, and when they shut the economy down fully, which they're now doing, they're flipping the switches off right now.
Going down the line, let's say there's 20 switches, as an analogy, there's about 10 switches left, and they're flipping them off.
They're just going down the line, switching it off, and then suddenly you see troops on the streets.
Suddenly you hear the troops are going to be on the streets on the news.
Suddenly they tell you they have built camps for your safety.
Suddenly they admit, yes, we've hired 26,000 preachers secretly to sell you on martial law.
Suddenly you hear that there is InfraGard with 23,000 executives trained with automatic weapons to carry out martial law and shoot to kill orders of whoever they're told to kill.
They're employees.
That's mainstream news.
They're everywhere.
They are the corporate criminals, and they are going to carry out the total destruction of this nation.
Now, if you're a compartmentalized marine, or a compartmentalized sailor, or a compartmentalized army officer, or a compartmentalized FBI agent, or a compartmentalized BATF, or whatever you are, a compartmentalized Department of Land Management, Or compartmentalized bureaucrat.
And you're saying, hey, Alex, I know you're telling the truth about this.
Everything you said has come true.
It's all admitted now in the news.
8.5 trillion stolen in seven weeks.
We're almost nine weeks into this.
We haven't gotten new numbers in almost two weeks.
Who knows what it will be when new numbers come out.
They come out sporadically.
They're telling Congress they won't say where the trillions went.
They admit four plus trillion has been stolen out of the Pentagon pension funds.
Associated Press reported seven and a half years ago it was two trillion.
Congress has been told on video by Rumsfeld that he won't tell them where the money went.
If you aren't part of this, you need to speak up and be heard now, because if they'll steal everything that Steven Spielberg has, and if they'll steal Senators' money, and they'll steal major corporations' money, what will they do to you?
I mean, if they've stolen nine billion dollars of Mort Zuckerman's money, this is in one scam, what will they do to you?
You are not immune from this.
We have got to come together now.
That's why I've tried to cut back on the name-calling and the rhetoric and getting angry and blowing up at you people that have engaged in evil and gone along with this system, because I know they get you all hyped up, they teach you and tell you that you're doing this to protect America and we've got to cut corners and break the rules and oh, the Marines are out running checkpoints, but it is to stop drunk drivers and check driver's license.
Oh, come on, Alex!
No, they're selling us this incremental takeover because now they're getting ready to fully drop the hammer.
And if you don't want to be totally bankrupt, all of you, if you don't want to be totally enslaved and have no future, you better say no to this fraud now.
Many times in third world countries, the people rise up, figure out what's happening, and the fraud is stopped midway or partway in.
Or sometimes at the start.
We're deep into this now.
It's already devastating.
But we may be able to close some bulkheads off on the ship, pump out the water, and get her righted, and get her back into port, and then fix things.
But if this continues even a few more months, while everybody's distracted by Obama, and in lovey-dovey land with him, it's over.
He's a diversion and a distraction, while you're looking at the new fancy, well-dressed, well-spoken puppet.
And while you're diverted off in that candy land and busy watching your football and busy thinking everything's going to get okay because the government and Wall Street say they're fixing it, they're not fixing it.
This is a controlled world government takedown of the West by the private bankers who are fully bankrupting us so they can buy everything up for pennies on the dollar, nationalize the rest, and use the army to block it and suppress it so the public can't resist.
and ever get their liberties or freedoms back.
I want to bring Ted Anderson up for this segment and the next.
Then Aaron Dykes is going to be on with us.
Ted, did you hear me read the headline out of Bloomberg admitting, I mean Bloomberg is saying it's basically over for the dollar headline.
Dollar staggers as US unleashes cash flood deficit.
The biggest foreign exchange strategies and investments say the best may be over for the dollar after a four-month 24% rally.
Ted, what does this mean to you?
ted anderson
Well, Bloomberg's putting the pen right on the dot.
It hit the bullseye right on the target.
I'm surprised they're even going to say this.
Bloomberg, you know, typically is a stock guy and wants to hide the fact that the United States dollar is going to die.
They did.
They came right out with that news.
And I not only heard you read that one, I heard that news this morning on the way in on the talk radio shows.
It's amazing that they did.
unidentified
They pinned it right there.
ted anderson
Obviously, Alex, by this time, this is December of this year, by this time next year, we're probably going to experience inflation that this country has never seen before with the exception of the continental dollar.
And if you want to go all the way back to that and call that part of it, I, you know, I'm just saying, since the United States currency, I should say, since the Constitution was formed here in the United States of America, the United States will have never experienced the kind of inflation that we have coming.
The United States dollar is going to be falling.
We're, just like Bloomberg put it, we're, they're attacking the United States dollar.
unidentified
That's what they're doing.
ted anderson
they're cannibalizing whatever values left in this currency to try to bail out the problems that are going on and like you said I believe that this is a managed thing it's intended to
I've got to say, Alex, one of the best offers that we've been having going on here at the Ever since I've been in business is that creature from Jekyll Island book with the silver dollar I put I take and I have I have my shipping people staple that silver dollar into a plastic flip right inside of that front
cover so they can take a look and they can read what this banking system is doing to us how the system works and understand how it works and actually take some action that counts I mean we're trying to call people to action here but most the people the United States of America don't understand the system and until you understand Yeah,
alex jones
we got a break.
Stay there.
We're gonna come back to you after the break.
Bottom line, people think it's cute to have private bankers running the Federal Reserve.
It's cute and funny to have them ruling us.
The New World Order is cute and funny.
The public is now, and the establishment minions are going to find out how cute and funny these cold-blooded people are.
Their instinct is to dominate and enslave and control.
That's why they're in power.
We're going to come back and break down exactly what's happening with this economy.
Please stay with us.
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alex jones
Ted, when we tell people that foreign banks Set us up in a Ponzi scheme.
This isn't like some Ponzi at a country club that rips off everybody and then just runs off and people lose a few million or a few hundred thousand apiece with nouveau riche fools.
This is the military-industrial complex taken over our nation for decades, setting up this master plan to implode the economy by design.
Every anti-New World Order expert from G. Edward Griffin to Aaron Russo reported that that was their plan.
We are now coming in to the master plan in their own documents to implode the world economy and then set up a world banking system called the New World Order.
Now, in the Financial Times of London, in hundreds of newspapers the last two months, every day they're saying, yes, this is the New World Order.
Yes, the bankers are going to own and run everything.
And we still then have Rush Limbaugh saying it doesn't exist, it's not happening.
So understand folks, they engineered all this and now they're telling the world that they're your saviors and that they're going to save you with work brigades and million man tattletale squads.
They are going to rob and rape us financially.
They know the public's going to resist.
This whole police state is so they can carry out the theft.
And I know I keep repeating that, but if we don't get that message out and get it out to John Q Public who's listening.
If we reach out, they'll listen and show them the facts, then the New World Order is going to get away with this and things are only going to continue to get worse.
Now, Ted, I've got you on today because two weeks ago you bought gold at $740 an ounce.
You had about 15 different coin offers you were offering.
You have sold out of everything but two.
Okay, so 15 coin offerings, everything but two, and they're the Great British Sovereign and the Frank.
That was the biggest buy you made, so that's why you've got those left.
This is the tail end.
He had three coins yesterday.
One of those sold out.
He's down to two coins right now at the $7.40 level with gold up at what?
What's gold trading at right now, Ted?
ted anderson
I'm looking at gold at $8.41 right now.
alex jones
Okay, so you bought gold at $80.
Less than it is right now, and so that's factored into the price.
People are not going to find a better deal on British Sovereigns.
unidentified
Well, it was $740.
Since it's $840, that's $100.
alex jones
Okay, it's $100.
So, I'm on my feet here in the new studio, so I'm getting acclimated.
I can't do basic math.
It's a $100 difference, and when these are gone, they're gone.
And the reason, after ranting and raving about the bankers, I bring this up, is because ladies and gentlemen gold and silver cannot be completely devalued in an inflationary environment they're only gonna go up and so you're getting into gold For $100 cheaper than it currently is trading, and this is the end of the deal, isn't it, Ted?
ted anderson
Yeah, I'll be having to buy at the new prices, so my prices have already gone up on the other items, and they will on these, too.
We're just filling the rest of the orders that we have with what's left and available.
We'll be able to make good on everybody's commitment today, but I won't be able to tomorrow.
This'll be it.
alex jones
By the way, I don't want to get into behind-the-scenes stuff, but I actually had an argument last week, a nice argument, with one of your top gold people saying, I don't know how Ted's doing this deal.
We're giving folks already a great deal.
We should go up in price because it's gone up.
But Ted is not doing that.
The gold is $100 above what he bought it, and he is not tagging on 20-30%.
That'd still be a great deal.
He is selling it to you at a deal that nobody can match.
Again, British sovereigns, European francs, 800-686-2237.
800-686-2237, Ted.
ted anderson
Yeah, I gotta say, and the product that I'm getting in now, it's all new product.
Used to be able to, you know, I was getting all the used stuff.
They're done.
That's all gone.
The material that I'm getting now is the stuff that's been stored in banks, in vaults in Belgium.
After the, you know, the British...
alex jones
Wait a minute, you're telling me this isn't even circulated?
ted anderson
No, all this stuff is coming in new.
unidentified
It's just gorgeous stuff.
alex jones
Oh my.
So you're selling uncirculated, semi-collectible coins, now they're on the bottom of the numismatic chart, for $100 under what the market says.
ted anderson
Yeah, it is.
It's really a good buy at this time.
alex jones
800-686-2237.
800-686-2237.
At the 8 after, I'm going to have Aaron Dykes on about the Marines and the local blogger.
Been big developments there, but stay there, Ted.
I want to talk for five minutes about the creature from Jekyll Island.
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I've come with a message of information.
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9-11 was an inside job.
luke rudkowski
Do you like being a puppet, sir?
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Do you like being a puppet for the New World Order?
luke rudkowski
How do the American people know that 9-11 was a stage?
was engineered by you, David Rockefeller, the Trilateral Commission, the C4R.
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The day that we stop asking questions is the day that we have allowed the seeds of justism to grow at our own door.
Seven years after the attacks of September 11th, a global awakening has taken place.
An inside job?
How dare you?
How do we think about the comics?
If you know that there's treason going on, you can be held accountable for treason yourself.
Paul Hellen is breaking loose on 6th Avenue.
And if the government has not told the truth, in five years we will be here on the 10th anniversary Truth Rising.
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Download the film at PrisonPlanet.tv right now.
Or get the DVD at Infowars.com.
It's now time to take the revolution to the next level.
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All right, we're live, ladies and gentlemen.
I'm in my new studio.
Thank you for joining us for this maiden voyage.
For stations just joining us, the dollar is plunging in value.
Bloomberg reports the public is finding out about the full level of the Wall Street Ponzi scheme that has stolen over 1.5 quadrillion, 1,500 trillion.
Mainstream news everywhere.
I have a stack here of, well, I just printed off five articles.
Scientists back brain drugs for healthy people.
They're saying put the entire population on Ritalin and Prozac.
They're claiming they're brain boosters now.
It's like a vitamin.
Deadly poison, amphetamines, and psychotropics.
So I'm going to be getting into that.
The Marines have been very, very deceptive with us about checkpoints they've been running.
So have the CHIP Department with Marine Corps checkpoints against the U.S. citizens.
Uh, out in California.
They promised they would come on the show today.
They're being quite rude to Aaron Dice and saying no now.
So we're going to have Aaron come up in the next segment with a local blogger who's been reporting on all of this.
Uh, let me, uh, right now, uh, go back to Ted Anderson.
Ted, you know, we've known about the private Federal Reserve.
You've known about them for three decades.
I've known about them for, you know, well, since I first read None Dare Call a Conspiracy.
Hard to believe, now 20 years ago, and then got involved 13, well got involved 15 years ago, but got on air 13 years ago.
These are evil bankers.
They overthrow third world countries all the time.
The minute they're able to get a dictatorship or corrupt military into a country, they loot it, they blow out the currency, they steal everything.
They want to destroy economies to consolidate.
And that's why I'm freaking out.
They've set it up here.
They've taken their time.
They're doing it in Europe.
And in the United States, they do not like middle class.
They do not like you doing well.
They have stolen your retirements.
And most retirements are, what, down by 60%?
Your annuities are down.
They're not going to be able to meet a lot of the annuities.
It's already happening.
And Ted Anderson just offered you, ladies and gentlemen, the end of the gold deal, when gold was $100 less than it is now.
He made a huge buy of 15 coins.
He's down to only two coin groups, the Sovereigns, and, of course, the European Franks that are uncirculated, gorgeous, that he bought when the market was $100 lower.
You cannot beat this deal.
Ted, briefly give him the price, and then tell us about the creature from Jekyll Island.
unidentified
Yeah, the price on the British Sovereign currently right now is at $242.
ted anderson
That's the same price that I was offering when gold was at $740.
Franks are at $195 as well.
unidentified
The creature from Jekyll Island thanked Alex 12 years ago.
I was on your show, KJFK.
We're talking about creatures from Jekyll Island.
We're putting silver dollars in the cover, and $19.95 was the price.
ted anderson
That was the price that you'd buy it without the silver dollar.
unidentified
Well now, they're $29.95.
ted anderson
The silver dollars have gone up by triple.
unidentified
And I'm still charging the same thing, $19.95.
ted anderson
Why do I do it?
Because I want people to understand this system.
You have to understand the system in order to attack it.
alex jones
If you want to cut this system off at the knees, you need to understand I don't know.
of analysts are talking about $3,000, $4,000, $5,000 an ounce.
I don't know if that's going to happen.
With a few percentage of the yuppies, Finally finding out they've been scammed.
Most gold and silver is sold out everywhere still and the price has gone up over $140 in the last two weeks.
It's going straight back up by now.
You're buying at last week's, no, two weeks ago's prices.
You're buying at the price from two weeks ago because Ted buys it then and passes on the savings $800, $686, $2237.
Ted, in closing, as fast as things are imploding right now, How soon do you think until we've got bank runs and riots?
You know, Salente and others, the news is predicting that.
unidentified
Well, we're already seeing some of that now, but like I say, what I predict by the time this year is over, I should say the year 2009 is over, we're going to experience inflation, bank runs, we're going to have the whole thing.
ted anderson
It's going to be happening to us.
unidentified
Bloomberg right now is pointing it out.
Just about every institution out there is pointing that direction.
ted anderson
And you can see it happening.
When the United States government doesn't have money, it has a printing press.
And it's used We're losing it at full speed, and what do you think is going to happen to the value of the currency that's out there?
It's going to get liquidated, liquefied, and the value is going to go right straight into the toilet.
alex jones
Make no mistakes.
Things are going to get crazy.
Take advantage of this deal.
Ted, in the last few months, you've offered deals you've never offered.
Is this as good or better than any deal you've ever offered?
ted anderson
It most certainly is, because gold keeps going up.
I'm able to buy it.
It just shoots up.
unidentified
All right.
alex jones
We'll be right back.
Thank you, Judd.
unidentified
Thank you, Judd.
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The local California Highway Patrol station held a highly questionable DUI license checkpoint Friday night.
When they announced the checkpoint, they said they'd be doing it along with military police.
The Z1077 ran an editorial reminding the CHP about federal laws prohibiting the military from enforcing civilian laws.
At about 11.30 Friday morning, we received a fax from the local CHP office announcing the action would not include military police.
Also, by law, to avoid entrapment, the CHP is required to provide the location of the checkpoint to the media at least two hours prior.
They did provide Z1077 with a phone number to call at 7pm to get the location, but, defense lawyers take note, no one ever answered the phone.
To add insult to injury, when the CHP held the checkpoint in front of the Home Depot in Yucca Valley, they did indeed include marked military police cars, as well as uniformed military police.
From his Central Texas Command Center, deep behind enemy lines, the information war continues.
It's Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.
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alex jones
Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen.
So, the local newspaper, the local news talk station, the local news blogs, all witnessed and reported on the Marines.
And what happened, basically to recap this, is they sent out a fax on December 10th, this is up on InfoWars.com, Chip News, And this has the phone number and the seal of the California Highway Patrol.
You can contact Officer Rob McLeod, 760-356-3707.
And it says, chip to conduct sobriety license driver checkpoint.
And it goes on to say, the Basin Office of the California Highway Patrol, CHIP, in conjunction with the San Bernardino County Sheriff's Department and the U.S. Marine Corps Military Police will conduct a joint sobriety checkpoint on Friday, December 12, 2008, somewhere in the unincorporated area of San Bernardino County.
Hundreds and hundreds of square miles.
And then it goes on to say, Lieutenant Sturgis emphasized traffic volume permitting all vehicles Like Nazi Germany will be checked for drivers who are under the influence of alcohol and or drugs or driving unlicensed So everyone no Fourth Amendment no presumption of innocence No due process no reasonable.
Yeah, I mean if a cop sees you swerving down the road I hope they pull you over that is probable cause no just everybody's a slave Our objective is to send a clear message to those individuals that break the law the CHP will be keeping a close eye out for you And it says, the sobriety driver's license checkpoint will be operated from 9 p.m. to 2.30 a.m.
The media may contact the Barstow Dispatch Center at 760-255-8700 on December 12, 2008 after 7 p.m. for the exact location of the checkpoint, because they claim with a Supreme Court ruling they have to tell you where it is, so it's not, quote, entrapment. The whole thing's a violation of the Bill of Rights.
And we first learned about this from a story from Ben Holstrom and his story in the Cactus Thorns blog was posted in another blog and then we made phone calls to the CHIPS, we made phone calls to the Marines and did confirm that the reports were true.
Then I called the radio station and confirmed it was true and Friday we put a report out with Curt Nemo about this at Infowars.com and people went in the comment page and said it's not real we're making it up.
It didn't matter if I posted three videos of myself and others videotaping Marines at similar checkpoints in North Carolina and other places and walking up with guns and telling people turn their cameras off.
Coming over to somebody probably 200 yards away from them running checkpoints and saying turn your camera off.
But the public still engages in denial because the public knows this is third world tyranny.
This is police state.
Now we have the Army Times announcing 20,000 regular army troops, combat troops from Iraq to patrol America.
We post links to the stories.
People say we're lying.
You have to stop living in denial.
This is happening now.
I want to bring up Ben.
Holstrom here in just a moment.
But there's been a new development, and don't worry Ben, you were scheduled until 15 after, but the Marines have cancelled.
So I'm going to hold you until 45 after if you can do it.
And I'm going to have Aaron Dykes, who's doing some producing for us, on the phone.
Yesterday he set the Marines up for today, at this time, at about 12.08 Central Standard Time, PM.
Today, they kind of got in his face and said, no, we're not coming on the show.
So Aaron Dykes isn't in studio with us.
He's over at the old studio calling in.
We're closing down things and moving out of that office.
So he's over there calling in via telephone.
Aaron Dykes also writes for InfoWars.com and is the editor of JonesReport.com.
Aaron Dykes, tell me exactly what happened.
aaron dykes
Hi, Alex.
Well, quite simply, I called Gunnery Sergeant Chris Cox yesterday.
He's the Press Relations Officer.
For the Marines in San Bernardino County.
He agreed to come on the show today.
And today I called an hour before, as you usually would with any guest, to confirm he's coming on.
And he told me, no, I'm not coming on.
I said, but you agreed to come on.
He said, yes, I did agree, but now I'm busy.
Don't you ever get busy?
I'm not coming on.
And he also gave me a backup officer named Humbertson.
And he told me he was also unavailable.
And that they would be in an emergency operations training and would no longer come on the show.
And they also declined to come on at any other time.
alex jones
Now, they can't claim they didn't know who we were, so now they found out they're refusing.
When you called up yesterday, tell folks about that conversation.
aaron dykes
Well, I called up, originally I called actually on Sunday during your Kelby Jay show, so that's how I was originally identifying myself.
Although, as you know, all the websites are run together, Infowars.com, Prison Planet, and he obviously had already found out who we were.
He knew about Kurt Nemo's article.
In fact, he claimed he was censored in the posting that he tried to leave a response correcting all the disinformation, supposedly, that was in Kurt Nemo's article.
Although, I don't see that comment, and as you know, unless you call for violence or something radical like that, No comments are ever censored in InfoWars, and I don't see them in either of Curt Nemo's...
alex jones
Well, I'm glad you bring this up, and then we're going to shift gears and go to Ben Holstrom.
We upgraded a year ago, or I guess nine months ago, InfoWars.com so people could comment with WordPress.
We went from HTML, Dreamweaver, to WordPress.
We are going to hire more web people.
Curt Nemo is a great writer, great researcher, better I'm not
sure. I mean, this is another side issue, but I'm really, you know, we try to provide this.
Now, I've been told by some of the WordPress guys it is because we are censoring words, and we have to, the Secret Service has been here twice, that that's when the problem started.
But there's only things in there like, shoot Obama.
That is blocked.
Because, you know, we can't have a Secret Service here.
And the n-word is banned.
Cussing isn't even banned.
We try to keep it to the most limited words so that it doesn't slow the program down when it's having to check for that.
But no, there's not a person sitting there censoring your post.
It has problems and that is the issue.
But Aaron, are you saying you went into WordPress and looked for a blocked post or something and didn't see this?
aaron dykes
Yeah, in fact I've looked at Kurt Nemo's original story that I think was posted Sunday night or Monday morning.
And I've also checked the updated story.
I don't see anything from anyone claiming to be a Marine in San Bernardino, much less a Gunnery Sergeant.
alex jones
Well, I mean, there's Marines in there saying they want to kill us and that we're scum and they can't wait to kick our teeth in.
They're not being censored.
aaron dykes
No, and I'm not sure if he's making up that he posted something.
Obviously, we'd be happy to post any response they give us.
That's one of the reasons we invited them on air, but they've refused to come on.
alex jones
Yeah, let's do that.
Call them back and say, look, you email to erinandinfowars.com, whatever you want on there, and we'll have our comments after it, but you go ahead and you send us anything you want, and we will post it unedited.
So, anything you don't want posted, don't send it.
You send it, the Marine Corps sends me their side of the story, we want their side of the story.
Believe me, we want it, because I want to catch him in more deceit.
And the reason I say deceit is we have the California Highway Patrol here saying that the Marines were going to be out there.
Then they told the media, no, they won't be out there.
And then the Marines were out there.
And these checkpoints are ongoing throughout Christmas into the new year.
I agree, and it's good you brought that up.
aaron dykes
One of the side issues is that Gunnery Sergeant Cox claims the Marine operation was a one-time deal only on December 12th.
And if it's true that those are ongoing, then that's very deceptive and may be breaking that entrapment clause.
I don't know if that's going on.
alex jones
Well, they certainly are breaking it because they wouldn't tell the media where it was located.
Look, they're playing games like we're in Basra and we're an enemy force of Shiites.
I mean, it's military deception and I'm sick of it.
And you know what?
Gunnery Sergeant Cox That's possible.
aaron dykes
It's never certain, but I'm not sure what kind of public relations officer has to run off for, quote, emergency training after he's agreed to do an interview.
alex jones
All right.
Aaron, call them back.
Challenge them to give us their side of the story.
It can be two paragraphs.
It can be ten pages.
And tell them that we will post it unedited, okay?
aaron dykes
All right.
I will.
Thanks, Alex.
alex jones
Good job.
Okay. I appreciate our next guest holding.
And we'll go to Ben Holstrom when we get back after this quick break here on the GCN Radio Network.
So, there you have it.
The local newscast, the Marines, the press release from the state police.
There are Marines outrunning checkpoints against U.S. citizens.
Period. Period.
It's going on.
Stop denying it.
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He's over at the Cactus Thorn blog.
He helped get this story out.
It is confirmed by the CHIP police, by the Marines.
But I wanted to get his take.
This is a citizen out in California, there in this county, in San Bernardino County, to give us his take on how the locals are responding to this.
The news talk station told us that around 80% of the calls and emails they were getting are against the Marines out at these checkpoints.
What are the locals saying to you on the ground?
unidentified
morning from chilly blue skies.
in the desert in 29 palms good morning people that people I talk to are are very concerned and up Saturday last Saturday I called the CHP trying to get a hold of public affairs officer McLeod and I I I was told from the dis told by the dispatcher well you can call him after one o'clock I wanted to know where the where the checkpoint was going to be And I said, well, that's public information.
She said, call back later.
You can get that.
I call back at 7 o'clock.
I get an answering machine that says you have to call back during regular business hours.
So this morning, by a half hour ago, I spoke with Public Affairs Officer McCloud.
I asked him what he has to say about a violation of the Constitution, the passe comitatus, that Some constitutional law experts say is a clear, blatant violation.
He says there is no violation of that at all.
So they steadfastly hold to that view.
I asked him if this is going to be ongoing.
And he said, well, they may review if there's enough of a public outcry.
But I was told earlier that it was just during the Christmas holidays.
I asked the officer what the rules of engagement were for the military in a civilian setting.
He said he did not know.
alex jones
That's right.
They're going out to engage the American people, shutting down highways, literally demanding ID, staring at people, violating their Fourth Amendment with no due process, with no presumption of innocence.
You know, Napoleonic, guilty until proven innocent.
There is literally no probable cause and they won't even tell you what the rules of engagement are.
Now I've talked to some locals that have told me that they're scared to come on air.
The news talk station said that the military police were out there, they do carry firearms, but that his news reporters didn't notice, didn't pay attention to whether they were wearing sidearms or not.
In fact, I just remembered, We need to go ahead and call the news station back, and the news director said he would talk to his host, his reporters, and find out.
But that is even more important.
Did they have firearms out there?
Do you have any word on this, Ben?
unidentified
Well, you mentioned Public Affairs Officer Chief at the Marine Corps Base, Gunny Sgt. Cox.
I again spoke with Sgt. Cox this morning.
I had a long conversation with him last Friday.
And I asked him if the Marines were going to be armed, and the conversation turned towards, he said that this is training only.
I asked if it was ongoing.
He said it's a one-shot deal just that Saturday.
However, he did add that if the opportunity arises and they I do have a need to learn from the experts, that is the police, the CHP, that they are going to learn, you know, as much as they can.
I asked what he says about the constitutional violation of the posse comitatus.
The Marine's position is it is not a constitutional violation.
Sergeant Cox was very clear this is for training only.
alex jones
So you're getting a lot of double talk from the supposedly honorable Marines.
They promise to come on the show and then say no we're not coming on now and don't give a reason basically and then you call up and say is this a one-shot deal?
The press releases say they're going to be out there till the new year and now they're saying no we won't be out there but maybe we'll be out there if we think we need to go out and train.
This is not training.
They originally said in the press release this will be assisting the state police and the county police.
unidentified
Well, I would be interested in knowing what the official CHP position is up in Sacramento, the Sacramento headquarters, if they're aware of this.
alex jones
Well, Arnold's daddy ran checkpoints picking people up to go to the death camps all over Austria.
He was an SS captain, so I'm sure Arnold's all for it, yeah.
Did you know that about the governor's daddy?
unidentified
Oh, well, yeah, I know he was an SS officer.
I didn't know he was out picking, rounding people up.
alex jones
No, no, that's what he did.
Yeah, they ran checkpoints.
unidentified
Oh my gosh, I didn't know that.
alex jones
Hey, this just gets better and better.
What comes around goes around.
Stay there, my friend.
Can you do a few more minutes with us?
unidentified
Oh, sure.
alex jones
Okay, stay there.
I want to pick your brain a bit more with Ben for the Cactus Thorn blog.
Stay with us.
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Marine Corps has overthrown scores of third world nations of the banking cartel.
Major General Smedley Butler in line to be the commandant of the Marine Corps, two-time Congressional Medal of Honor winner, was approached by Prescott Bush, the Harrimans, and others in 1935 to overthrow the United States with the U.S.
Marine Corps.
and And I've been telling you that I've shot video.
It's in my Road to Tyranny.
It's in Police State 2000.
Marines running illegal checkpoints, arresting people, not training, real action.
These are covert operations.
Now, this operation, no doubt, is to condition the public to accept troops on the streets, and the media has announced that.
Secretary of Defense Gates has said the Army and other branches of the service will be out, quote, helping with DWIs, helping at car wrecks, With the jaws of life.
So the PR of the Army's here, the Marine Corps is here.
They're flying hurt children in car wrecks to the hospital.
Why, you're not against flying hurt children to the local medical center, are you?
We need troops!
Oh, they're helping with the drunks.
Oh, they're helping fight insurrection.
They're helping fight the American people.
That is now officially in the Washington Post, in the New York Times, in the armies, and the Pentagon's own press releases.
This is happening.
It's un-American.
It's dangerous.
talking to Ben, who writes under the pen name Branson Hunter, one of the first to speak out against this now.
It's mainstream news.
They're in California, confirmed.
We have the press releases by the state police, listing the Marines.
It's Okay. Well, I first heard of this from, just a clarification, from Gary Daniel with talk show Z1077 FM.
unidentified
That's where I First heard about it, and I did a little research and blogged it, and people are not happy about this.
It doesn't matter, you know, what side of the political fence that they are on.
Many people I've spoken to said it's going to be extremely intimidating.
And one of the questions that I have is the rules of engagement for the military.
You know, you can see different scenarios out there.
In California, we have the two strikes and you're out.
If a person has two felony convictions, the third time it's life.
So, you know, if there's criminals out there driving a stolen car, or if they're wanted, they are not going to come easy.
So, if there's a fracas out there, is the military going to go to the aid of the CHP?
I would think so.
You know, what if there's a firefight that happens?
You know, Alex, there's another thing I think you would want to know about.
Would you like to...
Can I tell you about that?
Absolutely. Okay, well, actually, it's two things.
The U.S. Marine Corps base, Marine Corps Air and Ground Combat Center, they have 598,400 acres.
It's the largest Marine Corps base in the world.
Now they've got word from the Pentagon that they're going to expand 400,000 more acres.
At the present time, 29 pounds Marine base is five times the size of Camp Pendleton.
This is rumor only.
It's been floating around for a couple of years that Camp Pendleton is looking to close down.
They may close down or they're reconnoitering about the possibility of doing that because of the extreme costs for the leases.
If so, they could possibly move out here to 29 Palms.
The Marine Corps Air Base at Miramar, this has been floating around for about three years, is going to be moving up here.
Whether that's true or not, I do not know, but we're all aware of that Marine jet that fell from the sky and landed on a house in San Diego killing four people, including one small child.
of In terms of knowing what's going on, what's coming down from the Pentagon.
alex jones
Well, I agree with you.
Listen, they can spin this all day and claim, well, we want to stop drunk Marines on the road.
You know, don't you want to stop drunks?
We don't need the Army.
We don't need the Navy.
We don't need the Marine Corps, the Air Force on the streets of the U.S. And I remember a decade ago getting footage from a listener and then calling and confirming that in San Antonio, in downtown San Antonio, and this has happened many times, they have military police from the Air Force.
out riding tickets arresting US citizens they call the police over they then aid them and we had it on video and then I would call the Air Force Base and they'd say no they're only out there looking for drunk military people but then we had the footage of them actually going after citizens and that was later confirmed so there's a lot of deception involved in all of this and if people forget it was in 2002 uh...
and uh...
the uh...
papers in north carolina all reported on it worldnetdaily reported on it it's in my film road to tyranny the articles we mention it briefly but we should pull that up and repost that and point out what one of the other dangers uh...
in uh...
one of these drills they were doing around north carolina of the military practicing to take over local cities uh...
in two separate cases in in in in in one drill One guy was shot.
One guy was shot and killed.
The U.S. Special Forces came up on police at checkpoints and tried to dishonor the police, thinking they were part of the drill, and the officers shot and killed one of them.
In another case, only wounded the Special Forces person that was being tested.
So the point is, this drilling in the streets is dangerous, even if it's a drill, but they're admitting this isn't a drill.
This is the Marines out, quote, assisting with the local sheriff's department and state police.
And we know the government wants to get rid of that membrane, that wall, that bulkhead, that separation between the military and police.
We know they've militarized the police.
They call themselves a barren military force.
Mayors, governors, city council, police, firemen call us civilians.
Yes. That clearly states the governors are now under federal control.
So this is just absolutely off the charts.
Tell folks about your blog because you did a great report, made a lot of phone calls, made a lot of great points, did a lot of research.
We might want to have you write about national issues at InfoWars.com.
You're the kind of guy we're looking for, Ben, writing under the name Branson Hunter.
I apologize for not using your pen name because I really like the report you did that I saw reposted on another blog.
So, again, we just commend you.
unidentified
Thanks, Alex.
Well, the blog has been around for quite some years.
It's run and operated by, it's a host blog, by a local communications engineer.
And I think about eight or nine months ago, he decided to open that up where anybody can have their own blog there.
alex jones
No, that's good.
Tell us your blog address, please.
unidentified
It's 29 Palms, excuse me, it's vote29palms.com.
And that will give you the host blog.
If you just scroll down, you know, you can find it there.
alex jones
You'll find the Cactus Thorn blog.
I mean, you did first-class reporting, made the calls, posted the link to Posse Comantatus, and gave people the feeling of what was happening locally and also reported on the local news talk station.
Okay, Alex, just a couple of quick more things.
unidentified
Can I point something out to you?
alex jones
Sure. While you're doing that, go ahead and get my next guest on just to the network.
Go ahead.
unidentified
Are you still there?
alex jones
Yes, sir, go ahead.
unidentified
Okay, part of the expansion is the Marine Corps is building a combat city covering 280 acres.
That's roughly the size of San Diego.
It's going to feature an Olympic-sized soccer stadium, hospitals, airport, a large marketplace, prisons, police compounds, schools, industrial centers, extensive underground tunnel systems, and two embassies.
alex jones
Oh yes, this is your concentration camp angle that you cover on your blog, and of course, KBR, Kellogg, Brown and Root, admits that they've built a half billion dollars worth of new camps, they've refurbished the old World War II camps right outside Austin, they have one.
These have all been reopened, it's been in the Houston Chronicle, San Francisco Chronicle, Chicago Tribune, the public is still in denial, and yes, now the Marines can lie, or be deceptive, like with lawyer doublespeak and say, Well, you know, this is for overseas, but yes, it is dual training, but I've been to the urban warfare training in cities on video.
Most of the training is for the United States.
In the mock interrogations I videotaped in Oakland, in California, they were saying, where are you from?
I'm from San Francisco.
Where'd you get the helmet?
Where'd you get the weapons?
They were practicing fighting the American people.
Go ahead and finish your point.
unidentified
Okay, another issue on this expansion is there's a public outcry in what's called Wonder Valley.
It's just right outside of 29 Palms East.
East of 29 Palms, Wonder Valley, it's open desert for 115 miles.
So Wonder Valley, there are a lot of old residents there.
And that just butts right up against the southern portion of the Marine Corps base.
alex jones
I understand, but the issue here is what's going on with this bizarre facility they're building?
I'm told it looks like a sports stadium.
unidentified
Well, yeah, it's a full-size Olympic soccer stadium.
What is that for?
alex jones
Well, they use those in Iraq as re-education centers.
unidentified
I think the American people should be concerned about that.
The Marines have been doing their combat training over residential homes outside of the base, and they're flying very low helicopters over people's houses.
alex jones
No, no, they're aggressively letting everybody know they're in control under NORTHCOM.
We are now a military jurisdiction.
And for those in closing that don't know, we're going to be back on again about this because I need to go to another guest and this is so important and I've forgotten to get to that facet of this whole story.
They are practicing to take over the United States.
They are In Top Off Drill 1 and 2, Top Off 2 was in Denver, they practiced using the Denver Broncos Stadium as a mass detainment facility for the American people.
We saw what they did at the Superdome in New Orleans with the gun confiscation, so you're absolutely right.
Please get us some video and photos of these and post them on your blog.
We would love to link to them.
And again, I'll be in contact.
We'll have you back up for a Part 2, okay?
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Okay, thanks for all your efforts and your work.
We really appreciate that.
alex jones
Well, Ben, if you've got more to say, I don't have any guests on in the last hour.
Do you want me to call you back the last ten minutes of the show to finish up with the FEMA camp?
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Oh, sure.
Actually, I do have more to say if you have time.
alex jones
Okay, well, we'll call you back in an hour and a half, okay?
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Okay, bye.
alex jones
Alright, thank you.
There he goes.
Again, confirm, Marines running checkpoints all over that county in California, and then getting very belligerent with us after they promised to come on and then refusing.
So there you have it, ladies and gentlemen.
All right, for the rest of this hour, and then we have Wayne Madsen coming up, and we're going to get into how close we came to war with India and Pakistan, George Bush drunk in the White House, the police state, you know, he formerly worked for the NSA, that's coming up.
But I wanted to bring up the balance of this hour, Steve Shank.
The J. Michael Stevens Group, the longest continually operating storable foods company in the nation, almost 28 years, where I've chosen to get my storable food.
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I mean, a lot of storable foods companies actually buy their food from the J. Michael Stevens Group.
With so much happening in the world and with what's happening with the economy and
all these I'm glad to be aboard, Alex. How have you been?
And busier than a one-legged man in a you-know-what contest.
steve shenk
Or a long-tailed cat in a room full of rocking chairs.
Well, I'll tell you what, Alex, the food issue is continuing to escalate.
One of the things that a lot of people are being lulled to sleep over is the gas prices are going down.
Everyone had assumed that that would affect food prices because of transportation costs and things.
alex jones
But the news reports food is skyrocketing.
steve shenk
Absolutely. They are not connected.
In fact, the gas issues, another prediction, either after the holidays or at minimum after the inauguration, we will see gas prices skyrocketing even worse than they did before.
alex jones
Well, I hope you're wrong about that, but most analysts agree.
But according to our sources, That's not going to be the case, but regardless, the economy itself is in cardiac arrest.
steve shenk
Well, absolutely.
And, you know, this Salente came out and made the statement that by 2012 we'll have food rioting.
alex jones
Now he's revised that.
He's saying bank runs by next year and...
Go ahead.
steve shenk
And very, very probably we will have food rioting in various parts of the country sooner than that because we're running out of food.
Right now we're very close to between 35 and 40 percent of the population when they go to the grocery store have to decide whether to buy food or to pay their other bills that are required of them.
It's getting very, very serious.
One of the things that we had done, and we announced this on your program to begin with, Alex, is this reinstatement of the holiday supply this year, which has more food in it And is a better price, significantly less expensive than half the cost of last year's groceries.
And people are ordering those like crazy.
One of the things with the cash flow in families being so severely hampered at this point, and in their extended families, what we've just implemented, and we wanted to announce it today just so that people would be aware of it, is a layaway program where people can set aside food while it's available.
One of the things, you know, in most store situations and layaways, you set it aside so you can make monthlies on it and break the cost of it down.
Well, that's of extreme value to people.
But more important right now is being able to tie up the food, more food with less money.
Everyone that is ordering food right now tells us that if they could afford it, they would really like to order much more than what they're ordering.
So we've implemented a 30-day, 90-day, and 6-month layaway program where people can break the cost of it down.
But more important, if they have enough funds for one 1-year supply, they can now lay away 3 of them with that same amount of money and then break the cost of it down over the next 30 days, 60 days, 90 days, and 6 months.
It's going to be a real boon to people being able to tie up food.
It's almost like getting an option, but you still own the food and get it shipped out as soon as it's safe for you.
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Steve, before we run out of time, tell folks about the food itself.
steve shenk
Okay. The food is dried, of course, but it's exactly the same food that you're eating every day.
The fruits and vegetables, dairy products and all.
the only difference is that none of it is genetically altered and none of it's imported from mexico or prefer particularly china and uh...
the fact is that you can't get any e coli or salmonella poisoning from
That's I think?
alex jones
People who bought it when food was a lot less, they can now use the food.
steve shenk
Absolutely. And people that are buying it right now are buying it for half the cost of what they'd have to pay for groceries.
But the 800 number for those that aren't computer savvy is 800-409-5633.
That's 800-409-5633.
And on the web, it's efoodsdirect.com.
And there's plenty of information, instructions, and guidance, and support for the people that are trying to put their food families together and keep them together during these hard times.
alex jones
And there's a bunch of videos, by the way, about the food and the quality, the type of foods there are, the different packages available up on eFoodsDirect.com.
You can also send people out if they call an audio CD or a brochure.
Give them that number again, Steve.
steve shenk
It's 800-409-5633.
And that will get through to people that will send out packets for those that aren't on the computers.
Those of you that are on the computers can get all the information you need right there.
alex jones
And I would just put this out for the listeners.
I really do believe in having firearms to protect yourself and knowing how to use them.
I do believe in precious metals.
I do believe in storable foods.
I do believe in water filters.
And in your little two-month boogie pack, I know the one you sent me that we keep here at the office, that I have More than three years supply of food for my whole family now, and several purchases I've done, and I've also bought food for family.
And again, I shopped around.
That's how I found the J. Michael Stevens Group years ago.
I did my own research, and I'd ordered from some other places that had MSG in it or other things, and I was like, oh God, I didn't know what I was doing.
You don't have that with the J. Michael Stevens Group and eFoodsDirect.com.
It's insurance.
It's insurance that you know you'll use because it's high-quality, freeze-dried and dehydrated food.
It's huge amounts of food per can, per container, so it stores in very small areas.
More than 10 years in climate-controlled, 10 years in non-climate-controlled if you're like me and have it in the garage and attic.
Bottom line, ladies and gentlemen, you need to call.
You need to get involved.
Now, what's that package I got from you that has the little cook stove and the water filters, too?
I mean, that's really inexpensive and high quality.
steve shenk
Well, what that is, is that's the accessory, Pat, that goes with the two-month grab-and-go kit.
Any of the folks that order three of those get one of those free, but it's got the stove.
You see, with the grab-and-go, all you have to do is add water and heat, and that little accessory kit that we sent you is what you have to add the water and the heat, no problem.
alex jones
And again, everybody.
I mean, I literally have grab-and-gos at my house.
I have them here at the office.
Because, and I've got a 45 sitting right here too, because I'm not going to be caught flat-footed.
At least I'm going to try to be prepared.
The government stockpiled food.
They've got underground bunkers.
They believe they need it.
Why haven't they told the people to do it?
Well, now they are.
They're saying have a week of food and water.
That's just so they can claim they warned you later.
Ladies and gentlemen, you will never stand on the bread line if you have your own bread.
Don't end up like New Orleans and other places.
With all the craziness happening, you need to go to E, the letter E, foodsdirect.com, or call the toll-free number, and you will talk to an American.
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You won't talk to somebody in India.
Give them that number again, Steve.
steve shenk
800-409-5633. That's 800-409-5633.
alex jones
Absolutely. Take care, Alex.
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And coming up in the next few weeks, we're going to be doing two, three, four, five hours going into overdrive here live with Tex Mars and Jim Mars coming in this week in studio and a lot of other folks in studio here with us as well.
But for the next hour, I'm always honored to be joined by Wayne Madsen.
He did work for the NSA and other agencies.
A lot of times when you're watching C-SPAN and there's a national security hearing, you'll see Wayne Madsen there reporting in the background.
And there's a whole host of things that have developed since I had him on a few months ago.
We'll see where the D.C. Madden murder case left off.
Clearly a murder.
He was working with her and exposing things that were happening.
She had been worried about being killed.
We'll look at George Bush and his drunkenness.
Look at what really happened with India and Pakistan.
He's had a bunch of other reports dealing with the whole police state unfolding.
Wayne Madsen, in this short segment, tell us what's coming up in the interview.
What's most important on your front burner right now over at thewaynemadsenreport.com?
wayne madsen
Well, we've got these revelations from a Justice Department whistleblower named Thomas Tam, whose house was invaded by the FBI last year.
He wasn't home, but they interrogated his wife and his kids.
Very reminiscent of how the FBI treated the Fort Detrick scientist, Bruce Ivins.
But Pam is the guy who leaked the story to the New York Times about the illegal NSA wiretapping.
We now know the classified code name, which was only known to a handful of people in the Bush administration.
It was called Stellar Wind.
And now we've got the Newsweek article with a lot of details out on that.
That's a major development because this was an illegal surveillance program and this was the subject of what John Ashcroft in his hospital room refused to sign off on it.
So that's a major development.
alex jones
Let's get back into the Ivins case as well.
Even mainstream media was saying it looked like a setup.
Some type of cover-up.
Let's start there and then go into break first.
Looking at the anthrax, the whole anthrax story of the White House on Sepro, September 10th, and their enemies being melded, and claiming Muslims did it, but then it did come from Fort Detrick, and they tried to frame two or three people, Hatfield and another guy before him, reminiscent of Richard Jewell.
wayne madsen
Oh, it's very, yeah.
I mean, the whole thing.
They tried to paint Ivins as some sort of, you know, a lunatic.
When, in fact, he was the guy who seemed like he was on to the case more so than the FBI was.
And they tried to say he was some sort of anti-abortionist.
That was his motivation.
Then we find out he was a donor to Planned Parenthood.
He voted for Democrats.
So he's anything but what the Yeah, I think obviously.
The FBI has a long history of that type of thing.
As you mentioned, Richard Jewell.
We could go back to Lee Harvey Oswald.
We could talk about Patsy.
This is just what the FBI seems to do best.
I don't think of the FBI as a law enforcement agency.
I think they're more of a political organization.
Yeah, I would like the Gestapo and the KGB and the Stasi in East Germany.
That's basically where, you know, they crack a couple of cases, but their primary reason for existence I believe is political suppression and political payback.
alex jones
That is at the upper echelons and in those different divisions.
They certainly have other divisions that deal with money laundering and things like that, but certainly they've also been going after a lot of Democratic governors.
Stay there, we'll be right back with our guest.
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Wayne Madsen's a prominent member of Investigative Reporters and Editors.
He's also a member of the Association for Intelligence Officers.
Member of the National Press Club and Society of Professional Journalists.
He's worked for the NSA and other clandestine government agencies.
I want to talk some today with him about reports I'm seeing that now two-thirds of intelligence gathering I've seen this in the New York Times and a few other places.
It's being done by private contractors and how they can much more easily cover up illegal activities.
He's also been reporting on classified National Security Agency intelligence electronic surveillance program codenamed Revealed, thanks to the Justice Department whistleblower.
It's now known as Stellar Wind.
And the fact that it's come out that they're not just listening to U.S. citizens, they're listening to people's phone sacks and everybody gathers around and has a big joke.
Uh, and of course, they wouldn't put that on the news unless they wanted you to know they're listening to you to have a chilling effect.
So, uh, Bush lying a few years ago and saying, we don't listen to anybody without warrants.
And then, well, we only listen to bin Laden, and then we only listen to Al-Qaeda, and then we only listen to basically everybody.
And so we'll, uh, get into the latest on the NSA, uh, which doesn't appear to be cutting back.
It looks like it's going to expand under, uh, Mr. Obama.
Mr. Gates is staying on with him.
But let's continue with the case of Ivins, Carnaby, Well, it's quite clear that Carnaby had access to, or had in his possession, information.
wayne madsen
Now, we know that the police, their primary, one of their primary goals in After they shot and killed Carnaby was to obtain his laptop computer.
Now, it's quite apparent there was something on that laptop that was of great interest to, uh, the Houston police and possibly to a, uh, foreign intelligence service, so, uh, which, uh, Carnaby really, uh, had his sights on, uh, was very concerned about the security of the port of Houston and, uh, and, uh, uh, what he normally would do is he had the ability to download still photos and also, Uh, videotapes from cameras positioned around the port of Houston.
He'd download them, uh, all over his, um, um, BlackBerry, and then he would, uh, store them on his laptop computer.
So there was obviously something, uh, whether it was the photos or some information that somebody wanted to get their hands on, and obviously they did.
There was also a broken chain of custody.
Custody, I should say.
Uh, the Houston Police Department had that laptop for a certain amount of time, then they gave it to the Secret Service, and then the Secret Service apparently gave it back to the Houston Police Department.
So here we had a broken chain of custody on something critically important.
alex jones
Getting back into Deborah Jean Palfrey, I mean, clearly murdered, telling myself, you, a lot of other people, that if I am killed, it's not suicide.
Her condo manager saying that she told them I'm gonna be back in a few days, the rest of my stuff.
I think people are following me if anything happens to me.
I've been murdered.
I mean, and then she goes to her mother's shed with her ill mother and kills herself by her mother.
I mean, that's not her M.O., not her style.
And they have some weird crime reporter pop up and say, oh, she told me she was gonna kill herself with no record of that.
And then we looked at the handwriting and, I mean, just on its face, nothing matched.
wayne madsen
Well, we had another, uh, uh, uh, suspicious death.
Just a few weeks ago here in Washington, the Washington area, a girl named Juan Tissa Hill, who was a second-class yeoman in the U.S. Navy, was the yeoman for the Chief of Naval Operations, was found brutally murdered, and the police are calling it murder, a very violent murder, in her apartment in Alexandria, Virginia.
Now, why is that important?
Because in April, right before she committed suicide, quote-unquote, Uh, uh, Gene Palfrey submitted, uh, a letter, uh, a filing to the court here in Washington, D.C., which named several people, uh, as, uh, as clients.
And among those was an individual named Ron Roughead.
Uh, Ron Roughead's brother is Admiral Gary Roughead, who was the, who was the chief of naval operations who Juan Pizza Hill was working for.
No! Juan Pizza Hill would have had access All of Admiral Roughead, the Chief of Naval Operations, personal correspondents, including, we also had recently, the Navy dropped all charges and allowed Rebecca Dickinson, who was one of Comfrey's employees, she had a job at the U.S. Naval Academy.
She was named in April as one of the clients of Gene Comfrey, but she was allowed to retire as a Lieutenant Commander with full benefits.
And no legal action taken against your body.
alex jones
Now for those that don't live around Maryland, I see these reports all the time.
The head of the state police caught running the hookers into the government offices.
Murders of hookers, murders of investigators, murders of police.
I mean, I guess the hookers supplying the elite is really a big business and it looks like what the police are the delivery boys?
I mean, give folks some of the rundown of what's happening there.
wayne madsen
Well, we just had Mitchell Wade, who was the head of a defense contractor, MGM.
He did a deal with the government.
He just got 30 months, and he's going to be allowed to keep most of the money he made as a result of bribing former Congressman and now jailed Congressman Randy Duke Cunningham.
Mitchell Wade was involved in all this business activity with the poker parties at the Watergate that involved former CIA Director Porter Goss.
Cunningham where Sherlington Limousine would traffic around these prostitutes, these escorts.
And it's quite clear that these escorts included escorts working for Pamela Martin & Associates, a Gene Palfrey company.
And so we have a lot of things coming together here.
Rebecca Dickinson being allowed to retire.
Uh, Wade being, you know, basically getting that 30-month jail sentence, but probably in a club bed, and able to keep most of his ill-gotten gain.
Uh, it looks like the fix is in.
Uh, Admiral Ruffhead's yeoman being violently killed.
What did she have access to, as far as any deal made between the CNO's office and allowing Dickinson to retire?
Uh, you know, I mean, and as you mentioned, Ed Norris, who was the superintendent of the Maryland State Police, was indicted.
by the U.S. Attorney Maryland.
Incidentally, he was one of the first U.S. Attorneys fired after George W. Bush's re-election.
But anyway, we have a connection right into the office of then Republican Governor of Maryland, Bob Ehrlich.
And this is what the U.S. Attorney was focused on.
Now, why is it that Stellar Wind, I mean, the NSA is in Maryland.
It's a stone's throw away from the Governor's mansion in Annapolis and from Baltimore.
Why is it that Stellar It wasn't used to indict Bob Ehrlich, the Republican governor, but it seems to have been used to go after New York Governor Eliot Spitzer for something very similar, as we know, and also Illinois Governor Rod Blagojevich.
alex jones
Yeah, let's stop right there, Wayne Madsen, and talk about the way the NSA snooping system is being used.
Now, I'm no defender of the Illinois governor.
He has the National Guard out doing gun sweeps door-to-door.
You can't make this up.
We can play this press conference.
You know, obviously a corrupt guy, but that's par for the course in Illinois and Chicago.
You know, famous for that.
I'm not defending it.
I'm a non-partisan here.
And folks, you know, I'm more of a Ron Paul type, you know, conservative or libertarian.
But absolutely, you have him coming out saying the state's going to break off business with Bank of America.
And then one day later this happens.
We have Spitzer going after the big brokerage firms engaging in scams before this huge scandal even breaks.
They go after him and the FBI is basically surveilling all of these governors and knows the minute Well, when you get other governors that can basically get away with bloody murder, Republican or Democrat, as long as they play ball.
So who exactly is the NSA and the FBI that's being fed the info without warrants?
And then once they find something, they go and get a warrant.
I mean, how is this being used?
And politically, who and why are they going after folks?
wayne madsen
I can give you a personal example of it.
Well, I He
called me and said, he knew it, he knew it, you're the first one to report on it.
And I said, well, I mean, it's not just Richardson, I'm afraid, but this is the name that was given to me.
And then I actually met Governor Richardson during the campaign, and he said, you know, he just put his finger in my chest and said, you know, you were right about that.
And so, again, here's a Democratic governor, Bill Richardson, obviously, the neocons did not want him to be involved in this back-channel negotiation.
Okay. It's
a violation.
It's a violation of the wiretap provisions.
And the mere fact that Obama is, I understand, entertaining keeping General Hayden as the director of the CIA.
Remember that General Hayden was the director of NSA when this illegal wiretapping was going on.
The mere fact that Obama is thinking about keeping Hayden as CIA director, a guy who could be criminally charged, tells me that, as far as that's concerned, That's right.
alex jones
The corrupt party just continues to roll on, and it's a system of fear where everybody's spying on everybody.
Talk about a Nixon enemies list.
And we know Bill Clinton had one, we know Bush had one, both Bushes, but this is an enemies list on steroids, and this is how the private brokerage firms and banks in control of the government are able to terrorize the rest of the government, the media, and everybody else into going along with them, because the system itself knows they're being surveilled.
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Wayne, it came out as you know that the NSA has whole floors at every major telecommunications company or whole sectors And now their own whistleblowers are saying, oh yeah, we sit around listening to people having phone sex and making recordings of it and laughing at it.
And this is all just being thrown in our face and then nobody goes to jail.
Nobody gets in trouble.
I mean, where is this going?
wayne madsen
Well, I'll tell you.
I mean, it looks like this program has been around before 9-11.
We had the former chairman of Quest, the phone company, Richard Naccio, state that In February 2001, right after Bush came to office, the NSA wanted him to participate in warrantless wiretapping, and he said that's illegal.
And of course he refused.
He was the only head of a phone company to refuse.
Of course, AT&T and the others on Verizon all complied, but Naccio then found himself the subject of a criminal investigation for insider trading.
alex jones
But the Telecommunications Act of, the Telecommunications Act, as you know, of 96, ordered the phone companies to put the snooping hubs in.
They just told them, don't worry, we're not going to use it.
wayne madsen
Right, and that was the, uh, communica- uh, communica- uh, uh, CALEA Act.
It was, uh, Communications Assistance to Law Enforcement Act.
And, and of course, we were all told in the privacy community at the time that, uh, no, this would only, uh, this would be a court order would be required.
Well, we know that that was nothing more than a A bunch of, you know, hokum.
But, you know, we know that the Bush administration wanted these powers to listen to pro-sex, as you said, and, you know, all this other type of thing, you know.
And I say, as I say with the fishing expeditions, this is always the problem, fishing expeditions.
You know, if you listen to somebody long enough, you've probably got to get them on something.
And, you know, I asked one veteran Democrat.
Uh, former senator, I said, now where do you draw the line between hardball politics, Chicago, Illinois style, and corruption, like we see with, you know, in the Blagojevich case?
And he said, there is no line.
So, if you're a good prosecutor, we all know a prosecutor can, you know, a good prosecutor can indict a ham sandwich, as they say.
Uh, these fishing expeditions can result in indictments for anyone just because, uh, If they're opposed to the administration at the time.
alex jones
Enemies list.
I mean, this goes far beyond that.
From your research, who is really in control of the NSA?
I guess it's all the same people that were put in by Bush, and Obama is going along with all of it, because I guess they've got all the Chicago dirt on him, and he will play ball.
wayne madsen
Well, if they've got anything on him, obviously that could be used to blackmail him, and I think that's the, you know, the fear is, you know, Why would he want to keep General Hayden around, who was the longest-serving NSA director, seven years at the NSA, then Deputy Director of National Intelligence under Mr. Death Squad, John Negroponte, and now he's over at the CIA.
I mean, this guy has a charmed existence.
He apparently even had it out with Robert Gates, that apparently didn't like the fact that he was wearing an Air Force uniform and forced him to retire from the Air Force over there.
alex jones
I know, it's ridiculous.
That little, that soft little monkey loves to get up at the NSA and the CIA in a general's outfit.
I mean, talk about police state.
I mean, they're just throwing it in our face.
And now I'll be watching FEMA on C-SPAN and half the guys in attendance and the deputy director are in their former military uniforms.
I mean, they're really, really showing us we're under a military dictatorship.
wayne madsen
Oh, it's amazing.
I remember when Jimmy Carter became president.
One of the things he did is he limited uniforms in Washington to one day a week in public.
He said the rest of the time, he didn't want people to come to the nation's capital and see a lot of people in uniform.
He thought that gave the wrong impression.
And then Carter was, you know, I mean he was ex-Navy himself, a submarine.
Commander, but he thought that was a bad signal to send, and of course when Reagan got in there, we all, you know, everyone went back into uniform.
alex jones
Well, it's because in third world countries, everybody's in a uniform, and it's the same thing here now, where FEMA's a bunch of guys in uniform, and the military's working with the police.
I want to get your breakdown on the 20,000 combat troops, what Gates is going to do, saying they're to suppress the American people.
That's not even being debated now.
Marines out running checkpoints for DWI now on the nation's highways.
What are they planning from the inside scoop with your ear to the ground there in D.C.?
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Instead of myself just throwing out questions here before we get our calls, any other key news stories or issues that you want to cover after you answer the question about the full militarization of police, merging them with the military, Marines all over the country, we've confirmed, running checkpoints at DWI, the Army to be on the streets of America, all of this unfolding.
So let's get into that and Then the subject of two-thirds of the illegal intelligence gathering here in the U.S. They're now reporting being done by private contractors with no oversight.
wayne madsen
Well, I kind of saw this coming several years back, right after 9-11.
I know that's something very rare here in Washington.
The presence of uh...
military people in uniform but not just any uniform combat uniforms these work you know army in these uh...
dot bd use you know for jungle uh...
with the jungle design the desert design the you know they they're different they're urban design uh...
uh... air force uh...
officers wearing their flight suits i mean i can guarantee you they didn't have their their uh...
jet fighters parked on the uh...
pentagon parking lot uh...
this massive there was this massive You see them on the metro and the subway here.
You saw them on buses walking around town.
And I found out that that was a sign off to let people know we're in a state of war.
Well, these were the neocons putting that out.
People like Wolfowitz and Rumsfeld and Price and that bunch over at the Pentagon at the time.
And then something I noticed that was very, very unusual, and it certainly wasn't even the case during the Reagan administration.
Our military officers wearing their uniforms, and you saw everything, Colombian, Polish, Ukrainian, every kind of uniform in the world, but they never in the past were authorized to wear uniforms.
alex jones
And it's all part, now they admit, as you said, it's to acclimate.
I remember a story three years ago in the BBC, if memory serves, but I know it was in the British press, that they were ordered by Blair to start wearing our uniforms and to be visible so this is clearly now they admit that you know the the army troops and national guard at the kentucky derby unit Bowling championships, and at boxing championships, and at the Super Bowl, and then high school games, and college games, and Alabama Defense Forces, and other state guards searching three-year-old children's purses.
We have photos and video of that.
All training us to live under military rule, and now they admit what we predicted.
Oh, we're going to live under a military system now, and we were going to put $20,000 to start with.
It was $5,000 a few months ago.
Now it's $20,000.
wayne madsen
Well, I mean, we know that FEMA's been chomping at the bit to, you know, see some event take place where they could roll out all their fancy hardware and personnel.
I think it's serious.
What I've heard from people in Congress, we've heard that term, martial law, used quite a bit.
What's going on in Greece right now is much more than what the media, the corporate media is saying.
Protests over the police shooting a teenage boy.
alex jones
It's over people not being able to get their money out of the banks.
It's over the economy being dead.
wayne madsen
Right, this is a full-scale insurrection in a European Union country.
Remember, Greece is the cradle of democracy, and that insurrection is sweeping the country, and the government stepped down.
And we saw that.
All this already happened by land.
That had a lot to do with the economy there.
We've seen riots break out, sympathy riots in Europe, for Greece break out in France, Denmark, Germany, and other countries.
I think this is what they're concerned about.
If they devalue the dollar, there's some talk.
Can you imagine the march on the Federal Reserve building here in Washington?
It's right on Constitution Avenue.
It's the office to the left of the main entryway.
If I were Mr. Bernanke, I'd see what's going on in Greece, Europe, and other countries.
I'd be casting a wary eye to Constitution Avenue these days.
alex jones
Well, absolutely.
And we've now seen hundreds of news articles, including the Financial Times of London last Tuesday, saying, yes, it's a new world order, it's world government, you're going to buy your carbon credits from the banks, you're going to pay your taxes to the banks, everything is going to be owned by these private banks, and the military is going to enforce it.
I mean, they're openly admitting we've had a coup, and so whether you love Obama or hate him, you know, it's all a distraction, because the point is, he's keeping all the same people, whether he's a good guy or a bad guy, being neutral on it, Well, it's like this hedge fund guy, Bernie Madoff, up in New York.
wayne madsen
fifty billion dollar ponzi scheme and their turn first of all the f_c_c_ did not investigate i mean even though they received several trips that this guy was a criminal they decided to look the other way Well, the SEC chairman is former California Republican Congressman Christopher Cox, and he has been lambasted by many members of Congress as being an ineffective SEC chairman.
Well, now we know why.
He was aiding and abetting in all these criminal schemes, and I think it defies logic what they're saying, that Madoff pulled those $50 billion.
and I'd like to see the FBI rather than shake Tom Tam for releasing the illegal wiretap information.
Why don't they start shaking down people like Madoff's buddies and Chris Cox over at the SEC?
alex jones
so where do you see it going in the future and then finish the question after you talk about where you see this going in the future where your colleagues see this going in the future with what exactly the two-thirds of the intelligence being gathered by private groups what they're up to and how there could ever be any oversight of that well this is it you know it was was the guy who really promoted this outsourcing in NSA.
wayne madsen
He had a couple of programs that got into cost overruns, were complete failures, but they were basically outsourcing programs.
They were called Trailblazer and Groundbreaker, just a big waste of money, but it did enrich his friends in companies like SAIC and one particular company, Kaki.
That's the company that was involved.
You know, they were the ones who sued Randy Rhodes, because she said, you know, these guys were involved in the torture in Iraq, and they sued her.
She won that suit.
That was a frivolous lawsuit.
It was a slap suit, just to try to silence her.
But anyway, Kaki had some interesting ties to the Israeli government.
Now, the idea that a company like that could have its fingers inside the NSA, which is the Fort Knox of intelligence, they have all the intercepts, for example, is just mind-boggling, and it's very, very worrisome.
We do know that Blackwater has a subsidiary, Total Information Systems, which is pushing this concept of privatized intelligence gathering.
And they have a lot of people who like that idea.
One in particular is the former Republican chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, Peter Hoekstra from Michigan, who really championed this cause of private intelligence gathering.
Now, since the Democrats took over the House, we don't hear much about that anymore.
But don't worry, Hoekstra is now apparently going to run for governor of Michigan.
He may have his eyes set on higher office.
So, you know, here's a guy to keep a very close eye on.
He promoted this privatization of intelligence.
Of course, when you privatize it, Congress loses effective control over it, and so do the IGs and so do the auditors.
alex jones
Wayne, let's go to some phone calls now and see what the callers want to bring up.
Let's talk to Tom in Illinois.
Tom, you're on the air with Wayne Madsen.
Yeah, you're on the air, Tom, if you'd like to talk.
Okay, let's let him go.
Let's talk to Leo in Mass.
Leo, you're on the air.
unidentified
Hi, thanks for taking my call.
With all the economic indicators we're getting now, I think our main failing is, as in that old movie, we hear a failure to communicate.
And so, I would like to see us Let's get together like a simple little ten-point plan geared to people in the different living conditions, i.e.
city, suburb, country, where we can individually, in our own little way, stop these suckers.
And I'd like to see that.
I'd like to see a bunch of you guys, Colonel Roberts and others, get together a plan and publicize it and have it up on the water coolers.
That will stop these guys cold, really.
alex jones
Well, you know, I've tried to get together everything I can.
I'm doing about as much as I can.
I've put out all sorts of plans and ideas and issues.
How about we restore the Bill of Rights and Constitution?
How about we bring the foreign owners of the Federal Reserve and the Bank of England to justice for engineering the derivative scam, the giant Ponzi scheme?
uh... that uh...
they have uh...
set up in mass uh...
how about we stop the warrantless wiretapping and people say oh you know who cares if they spy on us without warrants and then i explain to people this is used to tyrannize the government itself and keep it in line the watchers watching the watchers this is designed to bring in tyranny people go oh tyranny is cute and funny no it's not cute and funny it's about stealing your pension funds it's about oppressing the general public see the public was partially sold that oh well this is to fight al-qaeda but again Again, historically, it's all directed at us.
This is a foreign group, criminally raping and looting our entire society.
And so we have to get back to our basic Bill of Rights, which is designed to protect us from falling into tyranny, which 99% of other countries and governments always go into.
Look at Mexico, North Korea, Russia, China, all of them.
And so again, liberty isn't just some quaint idea of goody two-shoes.
I talk to troops and police who think it's, you know, breaking the rules, violating rights, or cute and funny.
Those are there to protect you from very evil people getting in control, police, military, and wrecking your society forever.
Wayne Madsen comments on solutions.
wayne madsen
Well, I'll tell you that, you know, we saw a lot of grassroots politics in this last presidential election.
I think Uh, the fact that we got a lot of people who normally vote, uh, turned out, registered, voted.
Uh, we saw a lot of people involved in the campaign.
Um, uh, you know, not only Obama's campaign, but other campaigns.
But, uh, but, you know, what is that bias?
In the end, it, you know, he, he, you know, Obama's keeping Gates in as Secretary of Defense, keeping, you know, May Key Payton in as the CIA director.
I'm afraid that if that's the kind of grassroots politics, uh, That's the results we get from grassroots politics all the time and effort and money that was spent on it.
Maybe that's not the solution.
Maybe what the people in Greece are doing is the solution.
alex jones
Well, I mean, that's my whole point, is that once you have a military industrial complex that's bought and paid for by offshore financial criminals who are openly running global Ponzi schemes to not just gain all the wealth but destroy any wealth they don't control, I mean, this is warfare.
This is military financial warfare.
I mean, we have madmen going for broke.
It's their nature.
instinct. And history shows they will do it.
The public has to quit judging the world according to their own mindset of, well, I don't want to be a dictator.
Well, I don't want to be a control freak.
Well, I don't want to put people in FEMA camps.
Yes, but powerful people do.
That's why they're in power, because they have a taste for it.
And there's never enough for these people.
Thank you for the call, Leo.
Michael in Mass, you're on the air with Wayne Madsen.
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Hey guys, how's it going?
I had a quick question.
Not too specific, but I figured you guys would be the best to answer this.
I've been studying a lot of the stuff you guys talk about, and I find it all real interesting, real informative, and it's compelled me to make pretty drastic changes in my life.
what I wanted to ask both of you guys is do you ever find yourself feeling somewhat I don't know isolated in situations like you you hear discussions and people are talking and it's like you know oh my god it you're so ignorant that you're you're completely not even discussing anything that matters do you ever find yourself frustrated that like it's almost difficult to
Sure, you got a bad phone, I'm going to let you go.
alex jones
But it's a good comment or observation.
Wayne, you want to comment on that?
wayne madsen
When you deal like I do every day here in Washington with the so-called mainstream media, the corporate media, You know, you talk to people about certain issues that are critically important and they look at you with this glassy stare.
They wonder what you've been smoking or what you're on.
You know, that is highly frustrating because these people are not journalists or stenographers.
All they do is parrot what they get in the fax machine from various agencies and law offices.
They don't do what I call shoe-leather journalism.
They don't get out and talk to people.
Well, In the final equation,
alex jones
the elite are making a move on us because they know through the pop culture they have conditioned the public to laugh at anybody that cares, to laugh at anybody who gets involved, to make fun of people who are, you know,
You know, You know, following the latest fashion to get concerned with what's happening in the world around them.
But I don't really feel isolated.
I mean, I get thousands of emails a day.
I talk to generals.
I talk to former intelligence heads.
I talk to former presidents.
I talk to You know, high-level members of foreign parliaments, from Japan to England, and they're awakening.
And I even see the popular culture beginning to awaken to what's happening.
And so I see an establishment in crisis.
So much of the staging terror attacks and, you know, so much of the fear-mongering and trying to start wars between India and Pakistan, that's in an attempt to keep their order in place and to have their technocracy succeed.
But I don't see it succeeding in the end.
Wayne Madsen?
wayne madsen
Well, I agree.
And then, you know, I mean, one of the things here, if you're looking at something, you know, that the mainstream media is ignoring, either willfully or just by act, is you're always labeled a conspiracy theorist.
You know, I get that quite a bit.
People say, oh, hey, what's the latest conspiracy theory?
I'll look at these journalists.
I'll say, I don't know what the latest coincidence theory is.
But, I mean, The media is bought and paid for, obviously.
Anything that does make it to the airwaves or the cable has already been highly vetted.
It's called packed journalism.
alex jones
Wayne Madsen's our guest.
A few final calls from Bart, Paul, and Mohan when we get back.
And then I'm going to get into a huge news blitz when we start.
The fourth hour will also be live at PrisonPlanet.TV.
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The enemy struck America on September 11th.
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Who is the enemy?
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Fabled Enemies is the first 9-11 film to take a close look at the terrorist ties to intelligence networks inside the United States.
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Some U.S. investigators believe that there are Israelis again very much engaged in spying in and on the U.S. I'm aware that some Israeli citizens have been detained.
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Bart, go ahead, you're on the air with Wayne Madsen.
unidentified
Yes, what I wanted to say was is that, you know, you guys talking about Obama and then talking about these massive snoop systems like Echelon and Stellar Wind, it's critically important for people to understand that those are not separate topics.
They are both very directly related to the scientific dictatorship in that they use these systems to monitor trends within the society.
That information, like huge amounts of metadata, ... are then taken and war-gamed in the same computer systems that they used to figure out, you know, nuclear exchanges with the Soviets back in the 80s, and then they project trends.
Now, Obama is a trend that they have projected.
Over eight months ago, and I'm not just tooting my horn here, but eight months ago, I predicted on my show there would be an Obama presidency and there would be a new, new deal.
That all came out of reading policy reports out of the Center for Strategic and International Studies, Dr. Nye, all these other guys saying, we need an FDR, we need a JFK to revitalize the public support for our system.
So, I mean, we have to understand that they are foregaming this information on a mass scale, and they're using that with propaganda systems against us.
alex jones
I put him on hold, he's not listening to me.
Absolutely. It was on record.
They said we needed an FDR type to bring people back into believing the government.
Notice they're crashing things right as a new president comes in so they can claim he's here to fix it all.
Wayne Madsen, in closing, do you agree with his observations?
wayne madsen
Well, absolutely.
And you know, this massive amount of data they're collecting.
Add that to the snooping of our communications.
Think about the databases they have access to.
This is Big Brother on steroids.
alex jones
Sure, you can call me back sometime and tell me about your predictions.
I need to go to another caller.
I promised to go to Paul in Germany before the show ended, this hour ended.
Paul in Germany, you're on the air.
unidentified
Hey Alex, I called you on Friday and you had asked me, since I'm in the Army, what I had heard about troops being deployed to the United States and I told you I hadn't heard anything in here in Germany.
So I pulled out my phone book and I called some of my old buddies who are still stationed in the U.S. and I've been talking to some of them about What they've heard about it and what they know about it, and I found some really interesting stuff out from them that I'm not sure if you know or not, but apparently everybody who's going to be deployed to the United States is going to be under the command of NORTHCOM.
alex jones
Yes, that's all been announced.
Yeah, exactly.
What are they saying about it?
What do they think?
unidentified
They're being fed the same stuff that we're being fed.
I found online an article in the Army Times about how great it is, and how super it is, and we're going to be doing stuff.
In the U.S., you know, helping the police, and there's nothing in there about, you know, civil unrest or...
alex jones
Yes, there is.
The Army Times says it's for riots, civil unrest.
That's in Gates' own report as well.
unidentified
I must have missed that in the Army Times article that I read, or I'm reading a different one.
But they are under the understanding that they're there to help.
They're not tracking the whole...
Civil, the people that I've talked to, who I know...
alex jones
Okay, whatever, man.
It's all over the news, so I can't help them, really.
So, thanks for the call, appreciate it.
Alright, Wayne Madsen, I appreciate you coming on the show, and I appreciate you spending time with us.
We'll talk to you again soon, my friend.
wayne madsen
Good to be with you, Alex.
alex jones
Alright, we'll be live at PrisonPlanet.tv coming up, in about one minute when we come back into the fourth hour, so please stay with us.
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