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Big Brother.
Mainstream media.
Government cover-ups.
You want answers?
Well, so does he.
He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
alex jones
We are live, ladies and gentlemen, another important broadcast.
lined up for you today.
We've got Connie Fogel, the Canadian Action Party.
They've suspended Parliament again.
The Queen has suspended the government again through her Director General of her property, of her Commonwealth.
So Connie's joining us coming up later.
We also have an expert on global piracy coming on the show with the massive increase in piracy in the Caribbean.
uh... in on both sides of africa in the atlantic and into the uh...
pacific there and into the indian sea as well we will be breaking all of that down today you know at the start of the show yesterday we had an exclusive hour-long interview with the former head of ISI and the general who led the attacks For the CIA against the Russians in that eight-year war in Afghanistan,
the Afghan-Russian war, General Hamid Gul saying that 9-11 is an inside job, bin Laden tapes are fake, the U.S. government killed Benazir Bhutto, on and on and on and on and on.
It was an unbelievable hour-long interview, and if I have time today, coming up in the fourth hour, I'm going to play some of the key clips, some of the most important clips from that interview, but we'll also have open phones later in the show when we discuss that.
Obviously, everybody wants me to talk about the Governor of Illinois and what's happening with him.
And I will do that when we get back after the break.
Obama's honeymoon could be tainted by Ligoyevich's corruption scandal.
That's one of the headlines there.
Ligoyevich arrested on corruption charges after going up against Bank of America.
You know, we mentioned this yesterday, and Kurt Nimmo's done a story about the fact that you had the governor of New York, Spitzer, go up against The big brokerage houses said they were involved in crime and derivatives and scams and you notice that the little bit of dirt on him got brought out instantly that the FBI was surveilling him.
Let me give governors a tip.
Every governor in the United States is under constant CIA, constant FBI, and also foreign intelligence.
The entire British Parliament is under MI6 and MI5 surveillance.
That's been admitted.
The entire US Congress is under surveillance, and it doesn't matter if you lead a completely spotless life, they can try to dig something up on you.
Now, I don't like Mlugovic.
He is a vicious anti-gun pimp.
He is a gangster, a mobster, a thug, a dirtbag, a big city, Chicago City, piece of filth.
And that's clear from these tapes.
But this is par for the course.
That's why the guy's on the telephone, not caring, cussing, sounding like a gangster, saying, I'm gonna effin' get a lot of money for this.
I want bids put in.
Let me tell you how Chicago works.
To have a major media show on TV or radio there, you have to make payments to government.
To have any bar or restaurant, you make payments to the police.
It's on record, it's admitted for at least 70 years.
It is the whole state ... is being run by corrupt mob bosses.
Now, the Illinois folks are great people.
But all that New York corruption 150 years ago moved there and literally founded the modern police department.
And so, I'm not bashing the folks of Illinois.
We have about four affiliates up there.
I think the reason we've always had affiliates in Illinois and so many officers in Illinois is they know about government being corrupt.
They know the stuff we talk about here is accurate.
A lot of other dumbbells around the country are living in la-la land.
But regardless of how bad the governor of Illinois is, why is he...
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Why are they going after him now?
alex jones
I mean, a governor can engage in any evil they want as long as they're New World Order.
Why are they going after him?
Well, he had shot his mouth off against Bank of America and other big banks, shutting down factories in the Chicago area and other areas of Illinois.
Hello, friends.
This is Alex Jones.
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alex jones
Let's get into the Illinois governor a little bit more and what's clearly happening up there in Illinois.
Then we have some other financial news that's very important.
Treasury bills trade at negative rates as haven demand surges, but that's clearly long-term not going to be a haven.
Deal reached in principle on $15 billion auto bailout.
And the word being used is nationalization.
Taking over the control of the auto companies and then literally forcing all sorts of new environmental regulations and taxes on the people.
When you hear about Obama's New Deal, that means federal jobs.
Most of the jobs you will work for a private corporation, so it'll be pure fascism.
Private kingpins will get the money, and then they will hire you at a pittance.
So that is being rolled out.
I want to go more over that today.
Also, as you know, about a day and a half ago, they announced that the tortured patsies confessed to 9-11.
Meanwhile, Krauthammer and Barnes go on Fox News and call for indefinite detention of anyone the government wants to say is a terrorist.
Now that's what the Military Commissions Act does.
It says any U.S. citizen, any foreigner, anybody in the world can be secretly grabbed by snatch-and-grab black op teams.
They grab you out of your house, a van pulls up, they put a hood over your head, throw you in a car, cattle prod you, throw you in a car, and you're never seen again.
And it clearly states that any designate of the Secretary of Defense, of the President, any of their officers Uh, can declare you an enemy combatant and that there is then no due process.
England, uh, you know, first came out and got a 10-day rule, then a 30-day rule, now they're up to 40-something days where they can secretly grab you.
Uh, they're now grabbing the head of the immigration department under this, uh, a week ago, saying that he had leaked information about the government, but he is the government.
They said, well, it was national security that the government had secretly legalized hundreds of thousands of illegal aliens.
His concern was they hired 5,000 illegal aliens for high-security jobs in secret installations.
Well, of course, they've got to have foreigners come into England, the United States, and everywhere else and oppress the people.
That's a classical form of tyranny.
The Secretary of Defense, Gates, came out last weekend and said, we're hiring more foreigners for the military.
Including in high-security jobs.
That's what they're doing.
And, you know, they can spin it and say, well, for linguists and for interpreters and translators, but that's a cover for ground troops.
And the biggest U.S. Army recruiting stations are now in Manila, Philippines and Mexico City, not in the United States.
So they've set up huge recruiting centers in the former Eastern Bloc in Places like Poland, and the Czech Republic, and Ukraine.
Our military is converting to mercenary forces and foreigners.
So, we will go over Krauthammer and others.
Also, a report out of Bloomberg.
Regional Fed Chiefs say elite insiders have usurped authority.
Federal Reserve Regional Bank Presidents describe invocation of war powers by Board of Governors in Washington.
So, there you have it again.
Seven and a half weeks ago, on October 3rd, when the Congress had refused to pass the Banker Martial Law Takeover Bill, they were threatened with physical martial law, according to Senator Inhofe and two separate congressmen.
We interviewed two of the congressmen here and played the clip of Inhofe on Oklahoma News Radio talking about it.
The Senator, physical martial law was threatened.
Physical Marshall Law.
Now Bloomberg is reporting war powers were invoked.
That is Marshall Law under the 1933 war powers.
So, it is now being invoked.
It has been invoked.
It is totally illegitimate.
You know, Hitler could declare himself a dictator, it was illegitimate, but he had force du jour, force majeure, the most powerful force.
They have guns backing up what they are saying and what they are doing.
And it takes the people standing up in a unified front and saying, this is illegitimate, this is fraudulent, it takes government unions, it takes citizens, it takes organizations, it takes pastors, it takes people standing up and saying no.
That's why, covertly, In the past several administrations, they have gone out and recruited pastors and prominent people and thousands of top CEOs for InfraGard and the FBI.
Remember, that came out in mainstream news about 10 months ago.
They were being prepared and the CEOs were giving press interviews saying, yes, under martial law, I'm allowed to shoot people.
And my deputies are now secret FBI agents and we're allowed to shoot people and kill people.
There's this giant secret army that's no longer secret, because as they prepare to use them, they have to unveil it in front of everyone.
So, what was it?
20 plus thousand?
We need to do a new report on this, breaking it all down.
20 plus thousand InfraGard CEOs and executives are secretly deputized FBI auxiliary under Homeland Security, preparing for martial law and to quote, shoot people.
uh... to to to kill uh...
we have twenty six thousand preachers secretly trained now publicly admitted to train their flocks to go to fema camps turn their guns and take forced inoculations uh...
we have the uh...
threat integration fusion centers built in the late nineties under the government uh...
hoax related hoax everybody you know the navy the pentagon saying that everything would shut down they use that uh...
integrate new federal computer systems put in emergency bunkers in places like building seven in new york They have one right here in Austin, Texas.
Those are really federalization centers.
They're moving the National Guard, now federalized under NORTHCOM, under these threat integration centers or fusion centers, emergency management centers.
Those are the three names they go under.
So this is very real.
This is happening.
The economy is being imploded by design right now.
The economy has had all its liquidity and currency and credit cut off.
While the banks, the private inner group of banks, over-capitalize themselves to be able to buy up the depressed assets.
So that is what is currently happening right now on that front.
That's some of the other news that is coming up.
Meanwhile, in places like Iceland, in places like Argentina, in places like Greece, The public is rioting in mass, taking over police stations, taking over the government capital, taking over the private, same central banks, controlling them that control us.
The Athens airport is shut down.
They are now into the sixth day, going into the sixth day of the establishment losing total control, with the police in many cases now standing down or joining uh...
the uh...
rioters you're going to see more and more of this is the army report said this year as the british ministry report said last year as they implode the economy as they bring us to our knees to try to socialize us and get us under their control uh...
again it's fascist on the profit they they uh...
they that they privatize profit and they make loss public you understand how that works Greek fighting, the Eurozone's weakest link starts to crack.
And this is a article here in the London Telegraph by Ambrose Evans Pritchard.
And he goes on to say, because of the European Union's tyranny, and because it's anti-democratic, because it's anti-democratic, he says all over Europe the people are going to rebel and basically rightfully I think?
rehearse all the pros and cons of Euro membership yet again or debate the EMU is an optional currency area.
There's obviously a problem for countries like Greece.
That were let into the M.E.U., the E.M.U., for political reasons before the countries had been reformed to cope with the Euros and the rigors of Euro life over the long term.
And there's an area in here where he talks about, um, that said, the riots are roughly what Eurosceptics expected to see at some point.
At the periphery of the Eurozone as the slow burn effects, excuse the pun, of Europe's monetary union begin to corrode the democratic legitimacy of governments.
Did you hear that?
Did you hear that?
And it goes on, and on, and on, and on, and on.
Protesters clash with police during Athens rally, right?
Police clash with demonstrators outside Parliament.
Wednesday is the general strike paralyzed Greece, shutting down schools, hospitals, international flights, and raising pressure on the fragile government reeling from days of riots.
The lawyers for the two officers accused in the fatal shooting of a teenager that sent off the unrest said ballistics show the 15-year-old was killed by ricochet and not shot at directly, though witnesses said the police has gunned him down.
One officer has been charged with murder, and the other as an accomplice.
But see, they didn't do that at first, so the people went crazy.
And that's what's going to happen here.
So that's some of the news there.
Speaking of psychology and people not being able to deal with reality, I don't know if this is a person who is just very stupid, but the way they wrote their little piece doesn't look like they're stupid.
Or, whether these people are operatives.
We know there are hundreds of thousands of paid disinformation people on message boards, on the comment sections of YouTube, going on InfoWars.
I will see the same person, the same handle, on InfoWars, posting every five minutes, for eight and ten hour shifts, saying the same thing in every article.
Saying I'm a liar, saying I'm a fed, saying I'm getting rich, saying it isn't true, saying it isn't real, saying we're lying, saying we're spinning.
And we see these people doing this.
They'll even start fights with each other, but we can check the IP address to start diversions and distractions.
When we come back, I want to go over, yes, they are denying that the Financial Times of London did a story called, and now for a world government.
They're denying it.
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Today, unlike any other in the long course of American history, a terrorist act of war against this country.
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The enemy struck America on September 11th.
But who is the enemy?
Bin Laden.
This is his ammo.
We have to look to the Middle East.
We have to look to Osama Bin Laden.
Fabled Enemies is the first 9-11 film to take a close look at the terrorist ties to intelligence networks inside the United States.
brit hume
Some U.S. investigators believe that there are Israelis again very much engaged in spying in and on the U.S. I'm aware that some Israeli citizens have been detained.
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Bin Laden's connections to the CIA.
The hijackers'ties to the FBI.
The Saudi Arabian connection.
The Israeli Intelligence Network.
Warnings and War Games.
The Shadow Government.
And much, much more.
Either you are with us or you are with the terrorists.
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Okay, I don't want to spend a lot of time on this, but I literally see scores of examples every day just on InfoWars.com and PrisonPlanet.com.
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alex jones
in the article comment areas.
I mean, just an orgy of disinformation in there.
Paul Watson posted both articles.
Separately, he posted the first few paragraphs and a link to the article that came out two days ago and now for a world government from the Financial Times of London by their international editor, by their international affairs editor.
And then he wrote a story about it, and did a screenshot at the top of the article of the news story, and then under it put a two-line paragraph link in international internet speak.
Everybody knows that's the link to the story.
In bold, it says, a jaw-dropping editorial written by the Financial Times chief foreign affairs commentator Gideon Reichman, edited, entitled, and now for a world government.
And we link to that.
Now, what does this person come in here and do?
And we found out it does this in other posts.
What did poster 115 say?
Show the article in its entirety or put up a link.
Well, we did show a screenshot of the article.
We did have a link there as well as post just a link on the main page of the story itself.
So show the article in its entirety or put up a link.
Well, we did show a screenshot of the article and then put up a link.
The people can read it and make up their own minds rather than hearing it from your biased view.
So see, rather than address the fact that we did have a link to it, we did have a screenshot of it, it does say that, they will continue denying this is the policy.
Remember folks, continuing, remember folks, Find the information for yourselves.
Don't believe everything you read just because someone posted it on an internet website.
Learn to think for yourselves.
Remember, responsible journalism shows the references and would supply the article to back up their claims.
Seasons greetings.
So I was reading this and I looked at the article and I said, well there's a screenshot, there's a link.
This person isn't stupid.
This person wrote this so that weak-minded people reading the comments would think it was a lie.
And they have all these paid bloggers with websites and up there saying I'm a liar.
Folks, there is a North American Union.
We are going into a world government.
hundreds of mainstream papers the wall street journal the times of london the financial times of london the french news agency their spiegel hundreds and hundreds and hundreds and hundreds in the last month have written articles saying there will be a new financial order a new world order where the world government will be run by a private group of banks and you'll pay carbon them but you see it doesn't matter the public sees these
In mainstream news, but then still here's the media, Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, and these disinfo people running around saying it doesn't exist, it's not happening.
It doesn't matter if I play 20, 30, 40 clips in a row of Gordon Brown and Nicholas Sarkozy and Merkel and everybody calling for a world government, a new world order.
Bill Clinton's doing it again.
Barack Obama's doing it.
He does it on Letterman.
He does it everywhere.
It doesn't matter.
They say we didn't hear it, we didn't see it.
Now that's a military tactic, to make you just be confused, to stand down, and then look in wonderment, instead of ever debating the issue of do we want a world government, as we go into one, we're having a debate about whether it exists.
Now these same individuals, this same group of individuals, also go into the stories and say, you know, it broke, and here's the copy of my tip email, I've been plagiarized!
I've been robbed!
I've been...
I've not been given credit!
I'm done with this site!
That is just done to start infighting, folks.
These are tactics being done.
What does it have to do with anything?
Nothing! So the attacks against us are really intensifying, and they all have the same basic M.O. The truth is, we've been incredibly accurate.
The truth is, we've done a great job, and everybody's starting to tune in.
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We're on the march.
The Empire's on the run.
Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.
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at your young men fighting.
Look at your women crying.
Look at your young men dying.
The way they've always done before.
alex jones
you The reason we're being attacked all over the internet in a concerted effort is because we are affected.
So, this is very encouraging.
Who's really being attacked is the listeners of this radio show who are activists, who are out there spreading video links, educating people, putting out key information, pointing out hypocrisy, pointing out corruption.
I notice that we post stories, links to the Washington Post, links to the very Defense Department directive put out two weeks ago by Gates on the 24th of November.
Where they say they're abolishing the governors under federal control.
The governors will just be federal officers at the pleasure of the president.
They're going to use trips on the streets for civil insurrection, for crowd control.
It's in the Army Times.
It's in the Air Force Times.
It's in CNN, CBS.
And we write articles about it that link to all the stories, giving people the big picture.
And they go into the articles and say, this is a lie.
There's no documentation.
I want to see the links to the document.
Look at these liars.
There's no links.
Knowing that right above it is all the links.
Knowing that we told people about this 12 years ago, 10 years ago, 5 years ago, a year ago.
Knowing that millions of people heard me on syndicated radio shows, thousands of interviews I've done, my own show, stations I'm on.
Reading the news articles we wrote, watching the videos I made in 98, 99, 2000, knowing that people were going, whoa, this guy was really on the ball.
This guy was paying attention to what the Pentagon said they were doing.
They go into all our stories and say, these guys are lying.
There's no concentration camps.
There's no FEMA camps.
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Give me proof.
alex jones
When it's been in the Houston Chronicle and the Associated Press and Newsmax and all over the news and But they built FEMA camps all over the country for civil insurrection, and they just say it's not true And then you follow their handles back They don't even hide that most of them are in army And we've seen cases where they're on their own myspace their Facebook in uniform with a psyop badge a psyop patch I
think? And you go to their YouTube channels,
you go to their websites, and it will be videos, we've pointed this out on air, of contractors sitting on the side of the highway shooting cars full of Iraqi families and laughing and playing Elvis music.
We've linked to those videos.
These are sickos!
And they post videos about how they want to kill us, and how they want us to commit suicide, and how they're going to kill us.
Everywhere. I know you've seen it when you're out there.
I mean, these are sick, sick, sick, sick, sick, sick, sick people.
And then, after they get everybody hyped up, there's weak-minded, mentally ill people who then join in on it.
So, that's why I spent a few minutes on that today.
Also, I'm going to spend a few more minutes on this, then I'm going to get into financial news.
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alex jones
I don't have time to police things, but when you hear me endorse a sponsor or product, it means I believe in it, I'm using it, I think it's a great deal.
And Ted tries to police things with the sponsors he takes.
I think you've noticed we've gotten a better caliber of sponsors.
A lot of the sponsors that the network ends up taking separate from me, you'll hear on mainstream radio as well.
But I routinely call Ted up and go, look, I did some investigation on this and Ted will refund their money and say, you're right, we're not going to take that.
A lot of times he catches it himself.
So we are in this society trying to, if something's even questionable, not deal with it.
That said, other networks, other people in the quote patriot movement, ... are doing things that I have to morally warn people about.
You know, I've been doing this for 13 years, and not just 13 years.
I've been working and researching probably 5, 6, 7 hours a day on top of all my broadcasting and other work.
I mean, I stay up every night.
I get up early every morning.
We were eating Mexican food last night, and I was sitting there with a little laptop reading news articles and government documents while I was While the guys at the office I took to eat were working.
Well, while they were talking, I was working.
A little bit.
The point is, I'm totally obsessed with learning more and knowing what's going on.
And I'm going to have a series of interviews with attorney Larry Becraft, who's beaten the IRS many times, about patriot mythology.
Because I am tired of seeing good patriotic Americans hurt By disinformation out there.
Just like I get upset by CPS kidnapping kids.
Or I get upset by the IRS taking people's, you know, robbing people blind.
Or just like, I get upset about people drinking poison, melamine, GMO foods.
I mean, that's what this show is about.
Is warning people, and getting people active to warn others.
That's, you know, warn the tribe, warn the species.
I mean, birds do it.
Crows do it.
They see a predator, You know, while a couple of the crows are eating, one is always on watch.
I am trying to be a watchman here.
I am trying to be as moral as I can.
And that said, I don't like fighting with people in our, quote, movement, or the old core of the movement.
It's now so huge and becoming mainstream that most people won't even know what I'm talking about.
But as I and my listeners wake up tens of millions of people every year, We wake people up to the New World Order, then they go do more research and fall into pitfalls with things that are dangerous.
A few days ago I explained how the militias set you up.
How thousands of people went to prison set up with feds leading militias where they go, we're secret, let's go hide out, let's build pipe bombs, let's talk about attacking the police, let's sneak around, let's do all of this.
Those are feds, ladies and gentlemen.
And so we're all in the militia and I say create a hunting club, a shooting club, a military history club, a 1776 club.
That's why I had the apple seed project on.
We're mainstream.
We're out in the open.
We're the good guys.
We don't sneak around and do things.
Then you're safe to go out and be active.
And the feds will try to talk macho and go, I don't listen to Alex.
Let's go do some secret stuff.
Well, Half the people you're working with are feds and they're trying to set you up.
Same thing there.
I'm going to do more shows on that because I have a responsibility to not just sit here and wake everybody up and have my listeners wake everybody up.
You're the real power.
You're the key to everything.
And then just turn people loose without warning them about the pitfalls or about the rocks in the harbor.
I'm trying to put some hazard buoys out here for people.
Now, I've been through this hundreds of times.
Every time I try to personally warn somebody, once they get into Patriot strawman arguments and filing bonds or telling the IRS that I owe you no money, give me all my back taxes back, or filing bonds claiming you're taking money out of the private Federal Reserve, you get con artists, scam artists, feds, but mainly con artists in this area, Or mentally ill people who are delusional and really believe what they're pushing.
And then they get other folks who want to imagine, they always call it a new technology, has been developed and that this is the silver bullet and everything has been answered.
And 99% of it is total, absolute bull.
Total, absolute, absolute garbage.
And it is infecting the common law.
Now, just an example of this is last week the New York Daily News, in 90 minutes, was able to do the entire deed process to falsely stamp that they owned, and swear at the courthouse, that they owned the Empire State's building worth $2 billion.
It was deeded to the New York Daily News.
The New York Daily News then wrote an article about it and turned it back over to the rightful owners.
The point is, just because you mail something into the IRS and get money back, just because you file a lien on a police officer, just because you file something on a judge, a lien on them, Just because something bad happens to them doesn't mean it's legitimate what you did.
And nine times out of ten, you're gonna get SWAT teamed, you're gonna go to jail.
And I've seen the smiley-faced, delusional people a million times say that isn't the case, and this technology's different, and they never give specifics, they claim all these cases, they never tell you when they won.
It's always the same MO, and I hear it, I heard it here locally the last few weeks, and I just literally cringe.
I literally cringe.
When I'm hearing it, because I have seen people go to jail, lose their houses, I've seen these other Patriot groups set up trust, and then rip people off, and I'm going to do a series for the next few months, every week, I'm going to spend hours on this, giving you specifics, and I want all the Connors to know, I am coming after you.
You see, just because the mainstream media is lying and spinning, just because the government's corrupt and bad, doesn't then suddenly mean the public is perfect.
Doesn't suddenly mean that, uh, no, no.
Opportunists come in here and try to do a real, just a lot of bad things.
And it's all bull.
Now, are there ways, like with George Gordon, or Larry Beecraft, or Tommy Cryer, Or, hundreds of other prominent lawyers, and Red Beckman, and Bill Benson, and all of these people, Bob Schultz.
This is a political issue.
And they are successfully in court, having victories, winning, getting people off over and over again, all over the country.
They are having successes.
But they're doing it within the Constitution, within the Bill of Rights, showing how the government's violating the Bill of Rights Constitution, and even their own procedures and regs.
Another guy that'll tell you about this is, um, Ralph Winterud.
I'm gonna get him back on.
He's tried it all.
He's seen what happens.
So I'm gonna have all the legitimate people on this show who actually can give you cases and success Where they've really been able to win, rather than delusion.
Because, you know, people do all these bonds and revoking Federal Reserve bonds and all this stuff.
Most of it's made up.
And even when some of it isn't, the government is criminal.
It doesn't follow any laws.
And so it does what it wants to do.
So that's why the main issue is publicly exposing these people In government, these institutions, as engaging in fraud.
Like, yes, they make you waive your 10th Amendment under duress when you fill out tax forms.
You're incriminating yourself to a criminal group that changes the rules and does retroactive taxes and engages in all forms of tyranny.
Family courts.
They're totally corrupt.
They have brainwashed cops working for them, judges on the payroll.
They're making billions of dollars per state stealing children.
There's bounties on the children's heads.
There's no due process.
It's not a real court.
It's just a judge acting as a Napoleonic dictator.
You politically expose them.
You politically discredit them.
There isn't any magic filing that works in magic patriot land.
There's only true constitutional legal filings that will beat them, or it's best to know their tactics and the first time they visit you, disappear for a few months.
Move! You know, I know what works.
I know what the best course of action is.
I know what's moral and upstanding and real.
I know what works.
I eat, drink and sleep this.
And I've proven we know what we're talking about.
And I've seen people bushwhacked by all this.
You take Wesley Snipes getting bad advice.
And then he finally got a real legal team and so got off on the major charges but got convicted on smaller ones.
I'm telling you folks, you know, if you're not going to pay income taxes, and they are fraudulent, it does go to the private Federal Reserve, it is a scam, it is, we didn't have it until 1913, it should be abolished, that should be a political move.
But they're going to try to replace it with a national sales tax, even worse.
So be aware of that.
But it is a political issue.
Now, if you're going to try to live humbly, And live on a family member's ranch or farm that does pay taxes and property taxes.
And you want to just work at the local dry cleaner, the local hamburger place, and you want to live simply and not pay the devil the income tax, that's fine and dandy.
They're just bringing in a World ID and World Cashless Society to try to block that.
And I commend people that do that.
But that is the only way to stay out of their crosshairs.
The only way to beat them, and it's still not foolproof.
Okay? You know, I get up here and explain the system's corrupt and a fraud, and people go, oh, you coward!
You should just not pay income taxes.
Well, see, my mission is about exposing them.
My mission is about following all the little rules, so that if they do go after me, it's total open tyranny.
You know, I watch all these people advise everybody not to pay income taxes, and I watch people go to prison.
Like Mr. Sim Cannon of Arrow Custom Plastics, who just didn't make his employees file.
He said, that's your issue.
I'm paying you.
If you want to do that, that's fine.
I'm not an indentured servant.
I don't have to collect money.
And I totally agree with him.
But he still went to prison because these are criminals.
And they want you to fall into the trap.
They want to shut down big guys.
I can't have 15 or 20 employees.
I'm planning to expand.
I can't have a big office and a TV studio.
and operate and keep the fight up if I don't pay the taxes of the private fellow reserve.
I can't build this platform.
I can't effectively fight them if I choose the one fight of not paying the fraudulent taxes because then that'll be my whole world.
Understand how that works?
You have to choose your battles.
So if you want to choose that battle, I commend you and salute you, but just don't fall into all the patriot mythology.
That, oh, you just file this piece of paper telling them you're a sovereign, and then you send in, you know, the bond and tell them, give you back the money.
And then now they're destroying common law, because under common law you have this incredible power to declare yourself and to go make filings, and that was honored.
But with that power, you can steal the Empire States Building.
With that power, you can, yeah, you can wreck a cop's life.
And he may even deserve it.
But the point is, it was fraudulent what you did, and then that lets the system demonize the common law and start removing it and replacing it with pure administrative.
So the patriots are out there polluting the common law, misusing it, and destroying it.
And I declare war on you fakes and frauds.
We'll be right back.
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alex jones
We've got Connie Fogel, the Canadian Action Party, on for 30 minutes with us, coming up.
They've suspended Parliament, the Queen of England has again.
And Canadians are in denial about that.
It's in Reuters.
It's in Bloomberg.
The Queen's governor, the real head of Canada, did this.
So that's coming up.
I wanted to bring Ted Anderson up right now to talk about something sensible, something good.
He bought gold when it was 740 an ounce.
It is now over 800 and surging today.
We've told you this is a buying opportunity.
Ted Anderson, the owner of Genesis and Midas Resources, all there in the same building, has a whole group of gold coins.
Uh... at deals you're not going to find anywhere else and yes ladies and gentlemen they have a limited amount that that have been sold out for six months of uh...
the buffaloes but first come first serve on those uh...
they have uh...
plenty of the british sovereigns the franks and even some american eagles at the price they were a week ago when ted bought them when it was seven forty it is now over eight hundred and climbing With the economy in free fall, things imploding, the dollar in trouble, world currency's in trouble, major remonetization.
We're talking about devaluing global currencies coming up in January and February.
Now is the time, with all that is happening, to convert some of your Federal Reserve notes or stocks into physically held gold and silver.
Ted Anderson, tell us today's offer.
ted anderson
Yeah, let me just go over real quick.
We do have the British Sovereign.
They were bought back when gold was at $740.
Currently, right now, the British Sovereign is at 242.
We do have francs at the price of 195.
I also have a very limited supply of the Buffalo coin.
They're at 1,036.
Very popular coin, but you can't get them.
I have some of the $5 modern still available.
Just found out it was sold out on the 10 Indians and 10 Liberties.
That kind of bummed me out.
But we do have a good supply of those coins available, and it just came to no surprise to me, Alex, that when they came up with this Let's
alex jones
be clear.
Gold is a hedge against inflation, a hedge against depression.
You know, your golden parachute and silver, it's great.
But there is the speculative nature that it could massively explode and many top pundits are saying 2000 is easily approachable.
I'm not saying that's going to happen.
I'm saying it's going to hold or go up moderately.
That is pretty much a sure bet.
Regardless, I believe in this.
This is what I'm doing.
These are insanely good prices.
And again, Uh, Ted has a limited supply of the coveted, at a great price, uh, the, uh, uh, buffaloes So, first come, first serve on those.
But how long can you hold this deal on the Sovereigns, the Franks, and the others?
ted anderson
Well, I certainly can hold it through the evening tonight, and we'll just see what the market will bear tomorrow.
But yeah, indeed, gold is going up, and my prices will go up too.
I'll have to pay more.
alex jones
800-686-2237.
Here's the number again, folks.
Write it down.
800-686-2237.
And if you're listening to this on the AM and FM later in the day or the evening, or you're listening on the Internet in the evening or the podcast, Call.
This deal is good through midnight central time, the 10th of December 2008.
800-686-2237.
That's the number.
The brokers are there to answer your questions.
Take your order.
800-686-2237.
Ted, I want to hold you over for another five minutes before we get Connie Fogle on.
I want to get into treasury bills traded at negative rate as haven demand surges.
This is the first time ever the treasuries have been at under.
I mean, you're actually paying a premium to get treasuries, no yield.
That's how serious the markets are in.
I mean, that's in very bad shape, Ted, so I want to get your take as a 30-year broker on that.
Hundreds of newspapers going belly-up right now, or in the process of going belly-up.
Stay with us.
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Oh, my God.
May I have everybody's attention, please?
I've come with a message of information.
9-11 was an inside job.
luke rudkowski
Do you like being a puppet, sir?
unidentified
Do you like being a puppet for the New World Order?
luke rudkowski
How do the American people know that 9-11 was a state?
It was engineered by you, David Rockefeller, the Trilateral Commission, the CFR, and you released Saddam Hussein.
unidentified
The day that we stop asking questions is the day that we have allowed the seeds of justicism to grow at our own door.
The week in the state of the West.
The inside, John.
alex jones
How dare you.
unidentified
I always think about the comics, just like Hitler.
If you know that there's treason going on, you can be held accountable for treason yourself.
All hell is breaking loose on 6th Avenue.
And if the government has not told the truth in five years, we will be here on the 10th anniversary of...
alex jones
Download the film at PrisonPlanet.tv right now.
Or get the DVD at Infowars.com.
It's now time to take the revolution to the next level.
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Waging war on corruption.
Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
Big Brother.
Mainstream media.
Government cover-ups.
You want answers?
Well, so does he.
He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
alex jones
Beef prices are the lowest wholesale from the ranchers.
They've been in decades.
But beef prices are at all-time records in the stores.
In fact, wheat and corn and other commodities have plunged, but they're still at record prices in the stores.
This is manipulation.
There are riots going on continually in Greenland, takeover of government buildings, Iceland, excuse me, in Argentina, in Greece, because of the banking implosion.
It's been done by design.
The mainstream media is now saying we're probably going into a depression.
They're nationalizing the automakers for a paltry sum of $15 billion dollars, to be precise.
So a little bit over $15 billion.
And so this is very, very serious.
Ted Anderson, you know, folks are insane if they don't get into gold and silver right now, especially when you've got it at, you said it's $813.
I mean, that means you bought gold at $740 a week ago.
So it's up by $60 and $13, $70 something bucks.
And you're going to sell out of these coins very, very quickly, Ted.
ted anderson
Yeah, I mean, we're selling out of everything real fast.
That's what's been going on in the marketplace.
I mean, my biggest problem is buying.
And usually what I can find when the prices go down, I can buy again, because everybody sort of looks away when the prices are down.
I don't know why they do that.
I mean, if anybody was smart, they'd be buying like crazy when the prices are down, and then profiting from that when the price goes up.
But it goes opposite to that.
So I just take care of it for you.
I mean, I just pick up as much as I can, because, you know, darn well, with the economy doing what it's doing, Well,
alex jones
they bailed out some brokerage firms now three times, and that doesn't keep them afloat.
$15 billion.
All three of these companies are having million-dollar-plus losses every month.
This is going to do nothing but bring federal control in.
ted anderson
Yeah. That's why they call them
notes. And then there's bills, and they come due every 30, 60, 90 days.
And the reason why the yield is so far down on it is because everybody's trying to fly to cash.
They want to put it in somewhere where they're going to know they're going to get their money out right away, and they don't have to worry about market fluctuations.
alex jones
Well then why would you buy when you have to pay a premium to get a treasury bill for the first time in history?
Why would you buy that and then have the government physically hold it?
Why wouldn't you just pull it out and have physical cash?
ted anderson
They're looking for a place to park money for safety, and it's constitutional money.
They have to put it somewhere, and U.S. Treasuries just happen to be...
alex jones
Well, we have the Congress talking about raiding pension funds and taxing them, so hold on to your wallets, folks.
You need to get physical gold and silver.
Ted has gold at $60-plus, under what it currently is, $800.
686-2237. Fire out that list of coins again.
ted anderson
Yeah, right now the British sovereign, 242.
Franks are at 195.
I still have the silver.
Silver's up a buck.
And I do have the walking liberty halves currently right there at 840.
I also have some of the $5 moderns and those slab holders.
They're at 384.
I have the buffalo coin.
That's at 1036.
I also have many other coins.
Like you said, we have some U.S.
seagulls that have become available.
You can ask about those.
I mean, there's There's a lot of things that I'm accumulating because I can see the market bouncing and dipping.
And when it happens, I'm buying.
And I'm going to buy as much as I can.
alex jones
But explain to people, you've got to tell them it's the radio special with Alex Jones to get those prices.
They'll be paying today's prices, not a week ago's prices.
800-686-2237.
Ted, thanks for coming on with us.
ted anderson
Yeah, thanks for having me up again.
alex jones
You bet.
Here's the number again if you missed it.
800-686-2237.
We'll be right back with Connie Fogle and the Canadian Action Party.
Hello, friends.
This is Alex Jones.
I've told you for a long time it's important to be self-sufficient, and today that's more important than ever.
We need to be independent, and food and water is the key.
You'll never have to stand in a bread line if you have your own bread.
You'll never have to go to the Superdome and beg for FEMA to take care of your family in any emergency if you simply prepare.
Our elected representatives wanted a good old boy bailout for the special interest, so they ignored your screams not to do it.
They turned off the telephones and email.
They voted to print $850 billion at least.
Out of thin air.
This money now owns the American and European banks.
The exploding inflation that is now guaranteed will slash your life savings to nothing and blast the cost of necessities, particularly food, beyond many Americans' reach.
In pre-Nazi Germany's superinflation, the cost of a loaf of bread doubled every two days, until it reached over 4 billion marks.
Food prices are skyrocketing so fast, there seems as if there may be no end in sight.
The private banks merging with our government are refusing to loan grocery stores enough money to restock their shelves.
The stores have less food, but jack up prices to stay in business.
Whatever happens in America, we need to be prepared and be ready.
Everything is zeroing in on food.
One third of Americans have to choose between buying food and paying for other necessities.
My friends, whatever it takes, get prepared.
Get self-sufficient.
Get food.
For everybody out there listening, it's very important for you to understand that by having a supply of storable food, the government, the New World Order, has a lot less control over you.
And so it's a mindset, a mindset of self-sufficiency and preparedness.
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Big Brother.
Mainstream media.
Government cover-ups.
You want answers?
Well, so does he.
He's Alex Jones, on the GCN Radio Network.
And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
alex jones
all over the world illegitimate governments are taking off the gloves and the public is rioting and defeating them from Iceland to Greece But it's too late.
The bankers have already looted the country's drive.
The Financial Times of London, as you know, reported two days ago, and now for a world government, was the headline, admitting that it is a tyrannical world government for your own good.
There's also an article out of the London Telegraph today by Mr. Pritchard, admitting that people are rioting because the New World Order is tyrannical.
And we see the same tyranny in Canada.
You have the Parliament.
You have Mr. Harper, Stephen Harper, the Prime Minister, losing seats.
He should leave.
They moved to kick him out.
And so he goes to the Governor-General of the Queen, the true power in a Commonwealth.
Now, the people are the real power, but...
And if they knew things were really being run by the Crown, They would know how illegitimate it was and stop it.
That's why the Crown's never wanted to use this power, though they've used it in Australia back in the 70s.
It was the last time we've seen this in a major commonwealth.
Canadian Prime Minister wins suspension of Parliament.
This is from last Friday, December 4th.
Now they've done it again.
And I wanted to reread this for you to Connie Fogel.
Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper won a rare suspension of Parliament last Thursday, managing to avoid being ousted by opposition parties angry over the minority conservative government's economic plans.
And an attempt to cut off party financing.
Governor General Michelle John, the representative of Queen Elizabeth, Canada's head of state, agreed to Harper's request to shut down Parliament until January 26th.
Parliament was reconvened just weeks ago after the October 14th election.
Harper's request for the suspension was unprecedented.
No Prime Minister had asked for Parliament to suspend To avoid a confidence vote in the House of Commons.
Now, when we posted just the top couple paragraphs and link to this last week, people went into Infowars.com, PrisonPlanet.com, and they just said, Alex Jones is a liar, the Queen doesn't run anything, the Parliament runs everything, this is a lie.
That's delusional thinking.
Just like we posted the article, and now for a global government.
People went into the comments and said, it's not real, that article doesn't exist.
Direct link to The Financial Times of London, saying world government's real, saying it's tyrannical, and saying it's a good idea.
I mean, this is mental illness, ladies and gentlemen, or these are disinfo operatives.
Of course, Connie Fogel and the Canadian Action Party have caught police dressing up as anarchists and attacking other police.
That made national news earlier this year.
They've got out a new article, Canadian Prime Minister Suspends Parliament Again.
And just to let you know who Connie Fogel is, she's a great lady.
As a former leader of the Canadian Action Party, a lawyer and former teacher, Fogle lives in Vancouver, British Columbia, where her late husband, Harry Rankin, was a long-time progressive city councillor.
She's an anti-globalization activist and was an opponent of the multi-trilateral agreement on investment for the North American Free Trade Agreement.
She has also been active with the Canadian Liberty Committee, and it goes on and on.
But Connie, good to have you on with us.
Appreciate you joining us.
unidentified
Well, thank you very much for including me.
Your show is very popular and I'm very pleased to be part of it today.
alex jones
We're pleased to have you here.
Why are Canadians and Americans in denial about this and what's really happening?
unidentified
Well, denial is a word I was thinking as you were talking.
People, you know, people just, I guess maybe it's human nature, people don't want it to be so bad.
They just don't want to accept that that's the way it is.
It's easier to be To deny them to face something because facing takes a lot of courage and it also means adjusting yourself.
It also means taking on courage.
It also means maybe having to take a tough stand and really having to fight somewhere.
alex jones
Yeah, facing that you really live in a puppet dictatorship under an imperial governor and that the queen really runs things and that you're still under a queen is hard to deal with.
unidentified
Yeah, that's right.
People don't want to face that and the reality of just exactly what's happened is pretty shocking and it goes even worse because What's just happened now is that the Liberals have changed their leadership.
Just instantly, there was going to be a leadership change come May, but they got rid of Dion, who was the person that was supportive of the cooperation and the coalition to get rid of the Harper minority government.
Now they've put Ignatieff in, who is a, he's a globalist, he's probably a Harperite as well, and they're now going to sit down, the two of them, and there probably won't be a coalition to defeat I don't know.
that is to move the minority opposition forces in power.
It's very interesting when you have these minority governments, you know.
They can be quite democratic, but what we see happening here is that the people that are in the elected positions, they've got to the point where they're so greedy, they're so arrogant, they just have such an abuse of the people's wish.
That they just go along and do what they can manage to do, and what they've done here in the Liberal Party, they've put a leader in without going to their own membership.
alex jones
Let's stop there and explain how this works.
What happens is, once nations start going down into corruption, there's then a snatching and grabbing phase, where they know everything's imploding, so they're just stealing everything that's not nailed down, including the kitchen sink.
And so, because it revealed that the Queen really runs things, that the Governor General really runs things, They have to go in now and take over the Liberals that were trying to rightfully take control of the government.
So they're having to go in now and take those guys over to then create the illusion that the power structure has been defeated.
unidentified
Yeah, but of course what it is is all complicity with the power structure.
And it's really disgusting and disgraceful.
Unfortunately in Canada, the Canadians are so much more Canadians are slow to really take action and to fight, you know?
Contrary to the people in the States.
I mean, I have a lot of respect for the citizens of the United States.
Maybe you'll complain about them, I know.
But on the other hand, you've got stuff written right in your constitution that's very strong, and you've got groups and organizations in the United States, and you're an example of the power in the United States of the people where you really are doing some powerfully good stuff in terms of resistance.
We don't have that kind of strength happening.
The little tiny voice of the Canadian Action Party was the strongest that there has been.
And so, you know, I'm really worried.
I'm really worried about what's going to happen to us.
The last article you talked about, of the global One World Order being in place, that's true.
It's funny how you talk about these people writing and saying this isn't happening.
What's truly frightening is that enough people don't understand the implications and the really big thing that scares me.
Do I want to jump into this or ask you about this?
It's the whole depopulation thing that seems to be on the agenda as well.
alex jones
No, that's it.
I mean, they're openly saying in the Financial Times of London and hundreds of other papers, yes, it's a world government.
Yes, we are going to come after your liberties.
Yes, we're anti-democratic.
And then the public is so Mind-controlled that they were previously told it didn't exist.
So they say no no No, you do not have a link on your website to the Financial Times.
You are a liar I mean you talk about willful delusion.
unidentified
I know I know but you know At one level you can't blame human beings for wanting things to be nice on the other thing.
It's a really wonderful Reality that there are people like you and like me who will speak out and we are We are way out in front of the other people in terms of following what's going on and knowing and seeing what's really going on, and that scares people.
I mean, I've had people tell me, I don't want to hear that, you're scaring me, go away, leave me alone.
alex jones
Well, they should be scared of not doing anything and the bad guys winning.
I don't think they know what a world government means.
unidentified
No, they don't.
They don't.
But the important thing is that you continue to talk, I continue to talk, and eventually I've had people come to me and say, like a year later or two later, years later, after something they said, when you said such and such, At that time, I didn't agree with you, and I didn't vote for you, and I'm so embarrassed and so ashamed that I want to apologize now.
I mean, they do learn, they do grow, and that's the importance and the value of the work that you're doing.
alex jones
Yes, and we've now gotten to the point where they're just removing the Velvet Glove off the Iron Fist worldwide and saying, okay, it's tyranny, and we run things and you don't.
unidentified
Yeah, but you know, it's just...
Like you said in that video, I've seen where you, you know, you stand up and you say, you don't own the world, you don't think, we're not going to let you, and that has to continue.
alex jones
What have Canadians said, and then of course plug the website so Canadians can, you know, join you and fight back, and really you are one of the only, you know, mainline groups that's eloquently fighting.
What did they say six months ago when it was all over Canadian papers, that yes, US troops will be used here, yes, we will police the Americans, yes, we're in a North American system, Yes, Northcom is basically running Canada.
I mean, that was in the major papers.
unidentified
Still denial.
It's in the major papers, but in small sections.
And you've got to remember, probably it's the fact that most people don't read papers at all anymore.
And it's just a major denial.
And if it did happen, they didn't kind of, well, what does it matter?
What's the problem?
You know, they don't see it.
And I think most people still do not know what we're talking about.
This business of the military of each country going into the other, it's really worrisome in terms of what might be shaping up right away and could happen in January.
So, the crunch is there, and gosh, you hate to be the bad guy, the deliverer of bad news all the time, but on the other hand, I keep going back to the point that it's important, it's important that people must not be afraid and they must realize that the only thing that's going to make any difference for their lives is for their own courage to take hold.
alex jones
What are mainline Canadians saying about the Queen openly ruling?
unidentified
Uh, nothing.
Most Canadians, I mean, they like the parliamentary system that we have.
There are many who don't.
There's groups that don't, large numbers who don't, but the idea of having the Queen in there as the final voice in our things has been something that's been part of our system forever, and nobody's...
They're not a significant force moving to change that, because she's basically been a figurehead, but when you see something like this happening, which again, Most people won't understand its significance.
You've hit the nail on the head, especially when you go back to the One World Order and the power of the Queen of England in that One World Order thing.
It's pretty significant.
But most people don't have a clue.
alex jones
Well, it's not a figurehead because she only shows her power when she has to.
unidentified
Absolutely. That's right.
alex jones
I mean, hey, I don't care what your parliament says.
I'm in charge.
My governor is in charge.
unidentified
Well, only under certain critical conditions like we've just seen, but that's the point.
The point of the critical conditions is the very time of importance, isn't it?
alex jones
Bloomberg's reporting that the Federal Reserve is under war powers, under martial law.
That's in Bloomberg.
unidentified
My God.
alex jones
Oh yeah, they're just, I mean, they're announcing they're going to have regular army brigades on the streets of America.
It's just incredible.
Connie Fogel, I want to get you back up for a full hour in the near future.
We've got one little segment left when we come back.
Give out the Canadian Action Party website.
Tell Canadians how they can join you.
Some of the fights, where this takeover by the Queen of Parliament is going.
And I guess the next thing is they'll just deny the Queen even exists.
But the Queen Elizabeth II does exist.
She is real, ladies and gentlemen.
We'll be right back.
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unidentified
Canadian Action Party website is www.canadianactionparty.ca It's an interesting situation happening in Canada for everybody to watch as we see the state of our parliament now being such as really not representing the people at all.
I'm worried very much about the military move back and forth between the two countries.
I just got a notice there are some military in Canada, our own military are on our streets in some places, but we never have seen that before.
You've many articles from coming from the States talking about the military being in the streets in the United States.
So I think the disarray in our Parliament is perfect for another major something happening To be able to really get into the emergency measures kind of action that have been put in place under the Security and Prosperity Partnership Agreement between Canada, the United States and Mexico.
And a false flag, terrible something happening in the United States, probably at the time of Obama's inauguration.
A lot of warnings about that.
So people have to be alert, people have to be on guard.
And the last thing I want to say is in relation to an ad that you just had on there, the health movement, the alternative health movement, the supplements are so necessary for us to fight against The impact on us, the attacks on us actually, in the chemtrails and all sorts of things that are used to demobilize us and to make it impossible for us to be strong, to be able to resist what's going to happen when we're coming down the pike.
Fight that movement.
Stay strong.
alex jones
Absolutely. How do folks get involved with the Canadian Action Party?
unidentified
Well, they can go to our website, that's the best way, and they can just click on a dot in there and they can ask to be a contact person or to be contacted or they can ask to To be a member, it's right in there on the homepage.
alex jones
Getting into population reduction, that is their stated official UN endgame, and you mentioned that, your take on where all this is going.
unidentified
Yes, yes, and that's why I'm also saying the alternative, the supplements, to stay strong on that, because the whole depopulation thing, there's been a lot of talk about that for a long time, as you know, with Brzezinski talking about that a long time ago.
And I think this whole pressure of the attack on these supplements is to prevent people from having natural ways to protect themselves and keep their own immune system strong.
That's going to be, I think, the subtle attack on us.
It's not going to be some sort of blatant, violent coming down on us by military and police force.
It's going to be the whole health thing.
It's going to be...
alex jones
I agree.
It's incremental ambient background being incrementally turned up.
unidentified
Right, right, right.
So that's the thing, people stay strong, keep your supplements, get involved in that movement to prevent them from making it impossible for us to have access to those supplements, wanting to make them totally illegal, be illegal even to grow blueberries in your yard.
So that's a big, we have to protect ourselves.
alex jones
Yeah, that's in the Codex Alimentarius.
Right. And they're now raiding Amish milk producers.
Right. Co-ops that grow organic food, they're arresting them.
That's mainstream news.
You cannot make this insanity up.
It's all about control, the Animal ID Act, the Premise Society, how they're taking over everything.
In closing, how do you see this whole parliamentary crisis unfolding?
They'll just take over the liberals, and then that way the Queen can still secretly rule instead of openly ruling?
unidentified
Well, the liberals, I think, will simply support Harper.
And they'll get whatever kind of package that they want, which will facilitate the global New World Order whole agenda.
There's not going to be a takeover, in my view right now, of a coalition by the minority parties, because Ignatief is a Harperite.
They're the same.
They're the same.
Same stripes.
And their agenda is the same.
It's the New World Order.
alex jones
So the leadership of the liberals that was actually fighting is now being removed.
unidentified
Well, the leadership of the Liberals, that's right, the people that were in the leadership under Dion, who were wanting to cooperate with the rest of the opposition parties, has been removed and they've put into the leadership of the Liberals a person who is a New World Ignatief.
alex jones
Let's be clear, in the Parliament with multiple parties, not just two, there was a coalition government forming.
The people's representatives were saying, get rid of Harper, we're going to go in another direction.
unidentified
That's right.
alex jones
What the people want.
And the Queen came down from her pedestal, waved a magic wand and said no.
unidentified
Well it didn't work quite like that.
What Harper did is he goes into the Queen's representative here and says, I don't Dionne went in and said the group of us that are in the minority,
we're together more than Harper's group and we want to take over and we have the confidence of the Parliament.
She wouldn't go along with them.
She went along with Harper who said, You know, let me just get rid of it.
alex jones
Who does not have the confidence?
I mean, she has the final checkmate.
She has the control, but doesn't like to publicly use it.
Connie Fogle, thank you for spending time with us.
unidentified
Thank you for having me.
alex jones
You bet.
Take care.
I hope folks get involved with that group.
They're wonderful folks.
We're going to come back into international piracy, then into the economy, your phone calls, the arrest of the governor, and more.
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I don't have to recap for people that there's daily piracy, uh, a few weeks ago of a ship coming out of Saudi Arabia, three times the size of our largest aircraft carriers, worth, um, close to a billion dollars.
I know that even in the Gulf of Mexico there's been some robberies, not to mention the Caribbean.
I know in the South China Sea, I know in the ocean between Japan and China, it is just rampant.
I know all over the world it is massively intensifying, because I know a lot of mariners who go out for half the year, nine months out of the year, who live in Houston, live in Austin, and I talk to them about what they're dealing with, and so we now go To a very interesting individual.
Captain Kelly Sweeney is a master mariner, holding the highest captain's license, the Coast Guard issues to commercial mariners.
He graduated from the California Maritime Academy in 1983 with a bachelor's science degree in nautical industrial technology.
Captain Sweeney has worked on oil tankers, container ships, it goes on, oceanographic ships, high-speed passenger vessels, large oil spill response vessels, fish processing ships, ocean-going tugboats, a car carrier, a crew boat, Uh, he was a officer on a U.S. flag tanker which was attacked off the Rio, uh, Hanino, pronounce that right, Dominican Republic, on Christmas night, 2003.
In addition to his career as a mariner, Captain Sweeney is also an experienced professional rider.
He's a columnist for the widely circulated maritime magazine, Professional Mariner.
and is the author of the maritime book from the bridge with his wife Frances captain Sweeney also operates maritime headhunters a maritime job placement and maritime career counseling company and encourages our listeners in the maritime industry to contact them at maritime headhunters dot com maritime headhunters dot com two other links are professional mariner dot com and maritime headhunters dot com so it's good to welcome captain Sweeney master mariner Man,
I just love the sea, but not as tough or smart as you guys, but I do admire your ancient profession, the true explorers.
Good to have you here with us.
captain kelly sweeney
Thanks, Alex, and should I say ahoy to you and all your listeners, and it's great being with you.
alex jones
It's great having you.
Well, you've got the floor.
Tell us about your own experience, what's happening.
Take us there.
captain kelly sweeney
Okay, well, let's start with Christmas Night 2003.
I was filling in at the request of a friend of mine.
I was a watch officer on a ship, an asphalt tanker.
We were Rio Jaina, Dominican Republic.
And the Caribbean, a lot of people, they are the real pirates of the Caribbean.
And Rio Jaina has definitely been designated as one of the high piracy areas.
So the company hired two armed guards.
Anybody who has my book from the bridge can see it.
I think I can't remember what page, I think it's like page 92 or something.
A buddy of mine, a sailor, took a picture of me with the two guards, Christmas Day, hours before we got attacked.
In any case, the two armed guards are patrolling the vessel.
It's midnight, right after midnight, and I was on the 12 to 4 watch, and all of a sudden, the two armed guards run by the cargo control room where I'm running the show, and I knew we'd been boarded.
I hit the silent alarm, we locked down the ship, locked the engine room, I got my two sailors off the deck, and then I started going back towards the stern where the two armed guards were at.
And it was very quiet.
I eased back there.
All I had...
Merchant mariners are civilians.
We don't carry weapons.
So I had a big pipe wrench that we used on deck, and that's all I had, and a radio.
So I'm easing back in the shadows, and then all of a sudden, POW!
POW! Wow, I hear these shots.
I dove into the shadows, and I'm thinking, you know, this could be it.
I'm really glad I called my wife Christmas Day, because I might not see another one.
So anyway, I'm not sure how long it was.
It seemed like hours, but it was probably a minute or two.
There was dead silence.
And then all of a sudden, more gunfire erupts, and again, silence.
So I wait for a little while, and then I start easing my way back, and all of a sudden a flashlight goes on my face, and thank goodness it's one of the guards.
And he's in Spanish.
He says, it's okay.
So I go back to the stern, and in the water there's a body.
I got half his head blown off.
And that's the reality of armed attacks on merchant vessels.
And this happened, and I really felt violated and vulnerable.
alex jones
Now tell us who got half their head blown off.
captain kelly sweeney
The pirate did.
One of the pirates.
Good. And he got shot, and the armed guards, in my opinion, saved the vessel.
We got hit again before we left port, but it wasn't nearly as strong as the first one, the one when I was on there, on watch.
But I really felt vulnerable and violated, because I was doing what I'd been paid to do since 1981, and that's work in the Merchant Marine, when I started school.
We were, you know, pumping cargo, doing what merchant mariners do.
And to have this thrown in my face enlightened me and really woke me up to the reality of armed attacks against merchant ships.
And it's not Johnny Depp, it's not some fun-loving Pirates of the Caribbean ride in Disneyland.
This is the real deal.
And we had no protection, basically.
Except those two armed guards.
So, weaponry is what saved us.
And these two experts who knew how to handle the weapon.
It leveled the playing field with us and the people who were attacking.
They still managed to steal equipment valuables off the ship.
Right under our noses.
alex jones
How many pirates assaulted the Shepard, or did you ever find out?
captain kelly sweeney
I have no idea.
alex jones
And why would they try to hit the same ship again?
captain kelly sweeney
Well, I figured, well, try once, try again.
I really don't know why they went after us again.
We were actually tied up to another ship discharging cargo to them, a lighter.
And they hit us again.
And I think it was because they were desperate.
And they were trying to, you know, we were the main ship and port at that time.
They were desperate, that's what I believe.
alex jones
Now, they're not just attacking big ships, and we're going to get into what's happening across the world now that this works, and how we need to get all these ships armed.
I think that's the answer.
You can disagree.
I'm not sure what your view is on that, but I think more guns, less crime.
captain kelly sweeney
Oh, I agree with that.
We could talk about that, sure.
alex jones
But what I've been aware of for years is that, and what you don't hear as much about, is the sailboats, the yachts, the husband and wife out, getting robbed, especially in the Caribbean, and you never hear about it.
The ship gets sold.
captain kelly sweeney
Well, the reason you never hear about it is Companies who make money on recreational boaters traveling up and down, or people have this dream of retiring and we're going to sail around the world.
You don't hear about that, but even as close to, you know, a few miles off the coast of San Diego in Mexican waters, armed robbery against recreational vehicles is rampant.
I mean, it's almost cliché-ish.
At this point, recreational boaters are going in like flotillas.
And if you go to any yacht club, especially ones that have a lot of people who are ocean sailors, they'll tell you the cutthroats along the coast of many of the places that are sought after.
Islands in the Caribbean, Mexico, Central America, down to Costa Rica.
They'll slit their throat.
They'll, you know, dump them overboard.
They'll take the valuables.
They'll have them at gunpoint.
Uh, yachtsmen, um, from New Zealand, a few years ago, was on a, uh, a racing yacht.
And they were tied up, uh, actually they were at anchor in a river in Brazil, and they came aboard not knowing who this guy was, and they, uh, blew away the entire, him and the entire crew, and stole the, uh, the boat.
And they're easy to dispose of.
I mean, you know, they, uh, you, you, uh, make a few little alterations, and you can, uh, get rid of it, sell the, sell the boat, uh, use it, live on it.
alex jones
And these yacht clubs don't advertise that you need to carry firepower and that you need to have somebody on watch.
I mean, this is life and death.
They don't tell you.
They just sell you the yacht and say, bye-bye, go have fun being murdered.
captain kelly sweeney
Well, that's true.
That's true.
And because nobody wants to advertise the reality of what's going on right now, the lawlessness that's going on.
alex jones
Yeah, it is truly, you are an adventurer if you take a yacht on these cruises pretty much anywhere in the world now.
captain kelly sweeney
That's true.
And what makes it even more More problematic is that private ownership of weapons is illegal in many countries.
So let's say, for example...
alex jones
And that's where you always find the pirates.
captain kelly sweeney
And that's where the pirates are, of course.
Well, I mean, they're all over.
alex jones
Because they want to rape the defenseless people, though.
captain kelly sweeney
That's right.
And so you have a port where you can't clear customs or immigration when you come in, let's say on a vacation, a recreational cruise, for example.
If they find out that you have weapons, they won't let you in the country, or they'll impound your vessel and maybe arrest you.
And so people come in unarmed because that's what the law says, and yet when they get attacked, what do they have?
What we have on the ship is fire hoses against AK-47s and grenade launchers.
What the recreational boaters have is even less.
alex jones
Well, we clearly need to change the laws, but going back to piracy in New York being founded by the Dutch to deal with pirates, the biggest pirate port in the world, You know, back in Captain Kidd's day, they were fencing the stolen goods and they wouldn't protect the people from pirates.
So I've read that, and you're the expert, you can tell me that a lot of these third world countries and others actually work with the pirates and sometimes the local constabulary dress up and they're the ones out actually pirating.
captain kelly sweeney
There was a very famous case, I think it's the Kuang We're good to go.
And then sent the vessel out under a different name, under a different flag, and continued to work it.
alex jones
Was that a Korean or Japanese ship?
It was a, uh...
captain kelly sweeney
It was a...
Korean ship.
alex jones
Yeah, that's what a memory served.
captain kelly sweeney
I think it was a Dong Quan.
I'm sure I'm not saying that right.
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alex jones
Yeah, the bottom line is I've read a lot of the piracy around there.
It's really Chinese government.
captain kelly sweeney
Yes, and actually what they found out was they, in that particular case, they did apprehend some of the pirates, and it turned out to be the local Uh, in that area, head customs official, uh, was the guy, the leader of the gang.
Unbelievable. And so, uh, and yeah, so that's, yes, and in Somalia, because there's basically no government there, the, uh, local warlords are definitely, uh, in, uh, a relationship with...
alex jones
Well, we're going to cover all that, and maybe I'll keep it a little bit longer if you can do it.
I know you're busy.
Of course!
Uh, but this is so interesting.
But... I mean, backing away from this, um, Do we have any gauge for how much piracy is increasing?
It's certainly on the rise, but I mean, is there any gauge to...
captain kelly sweeney
Piracy is up about 500% this year alone.
And that's only what's reported.
Even by International Maritime Organization announcement and analysis, half or maybe even more of the piracy attacks are never reported.
Because shipping companies don't want to have their insurance rates raised.
So they'll pay the ransom on the fly and in cash in a suitcase of $100 bills, U.S. bills, that's the most operandi, and not say anything, but it's a lot cheaper than having the insurance rates raised for their entire fleet so they don't report it.
So even by international authorities, at least 50% of the attacks, and I think personally it's a lot more, Um, are not reported.
alex jones
So they're giving in to the terrorists, and that's what they are.
They're giving in to the terrorists and it's getting worse.
captain kelly sweeney
It's getting worse like you wouldn't believe.
It's chaos on the high seas.
alex jones
And by the way, all this cost is being passed on to the people buying goods.
captain kelly sweeney
We know who pays it in the end.
alex jones
Yeah, but you guys pay with your blood, so that's what really matters.
Stay there, Captain.
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Five hundred percent, and he's saying that's with about half of the reports coming in.
So that's really a thousand percent increase.
Before we go any further, briefly, Captain, and we'll get more into it, tell folks about your book.
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Well, my book, From the Bridge, is not a book of fiction.
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And it has pictures, including those two guys who saved the day in Rio Haina, Dominican Republic.
I don't know those guys' names, but I'll always be very grateful to them.
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If they click on the company info page, they can go there and they can get a signed copy of the book directly from me.
alex jones
All right, continue.
I've thrown a lot of my points, but here's one final question before you continue with the story and what's currently happening.
Why do they so often slit throats and kill people and not just take them hostage?
Why beat the whole crew to death?
I mean, I guess it's like old-fashioned pirates.
They're just degenerate scum.
captain kelly sweeney
Well, I think that you, Alex, you ask such excellent questions.
I was talking with my wife during the break.
You're right on, man.
Let me tell you, the old style, quote-unquote, Is what we talked about with the bulk carrier where the guy's getting their beat to death on deck.
But now, in Somalia, there's a new tactic that's spreading worldwide.
The pirates in the Malacca Strait and South America are all glomming on to this because money is much easier to hide than a 1,100 foot ship full of cargo.
But what they're doing now in Somalia with taking the ships and crews for ransom And basically holding them and getting the money dropped down in suitcases on the deck of $100 bills, American unmarked bills, is the new modus operandi.
Now, when companies, Hammond, Haw, about paying the ransom, and right now there are hundreds of merchant mariners, I believe probably close to 300 or 400, whose lives are in the balance of whether companies are paying the ransom or not.
They, uh, there was one Korean company that tested that, and they started, uh, well, we were not going to pay the ransom.
They brought one of the crew members out, blew his head off, and tossed him over the side to make a point.
alex jones
Well, they're going to have incredible liability.
captain kelly sweeney
Oh, they, uh, right now, uh, ransoms begin ransoms, and the pirates have extracted, uh, officially, $30 to $50 million just in the Somali area alone, and by one estimate, close to $150 million because a lot of it's hush-hush.
But every time they get more ransom money, they get better equipment.
Right now they're getting, as you pointed out in your introduction, the attacks are going farther and farther out to sea because the pirates are better equipped, they're purchasing faster and more modern vessels, excellent better weaponry, GPS surveillance.
and they have what's called AIS, which is a radio-based technology.
They're buying receivers where they can track the transmissions from the ships, and they're going to get more and more brazen, and they're going further and further out.
And now, they're hitting cruise ships.
Yes, they are.
There have been two cruise ships that have been attacked in the last week and a half.
alex jones
All right, stay there.
We're going to come back in 70 seconds and continue with Captain Kelly Sweeney, Master Mariner.
And they were able to fight off an attack in 2003 in the Caribbean Sea, just south of the United States.
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Back in 2003, on Christmas night, they were boarded and they had two armed security guards in that dangerous area on board the ship who blasted them and got them off the ship, killing at least one of them.
Continuing, sir, with the 500% increase in piracy, where the hot spots are in the world, what we're really facing?
captain kelly sweeney
Right now the big hot spot is what everybody's been reading about in the papers and hearing about, and that's the Gulf of Aden.
This is one of the most important shipping lanes in the world.
12% of the world's oil, go 21,000 vessels a year, go through here.
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Our troops are supplied by ships that go through the Suez Canal through the Red Sea, around the Gulf of Aden and the Horn of Arabia, and then up to Iraq.
And I actually have two friends over there right now who are doing it, who are supplying the troops, and actually a container ship, a maritime U.S. flight container ship was attacked just about a week and a half, two weeks ago.
But it's a major supply line, and the oil from Saudi Arabia comes either along the coast, down around the Horn of Africa, or Uh, goes through the, uh, goes through the canal and therefore through this shipping line.
But the, uh, and so that's the hotspot that we hear about, but it's not the only hotspot.
Piracy is rampant worldwide.
In the Malacca Strait, over in the South China Sea, South America, as you pointed out in the Caribbean, there have been attacks in Haiti in the last few months, off of Haiti, on an automobile carrier that was attacked, an armed attack in port.
In the Mediterranean, there was a, uh, a yacht It was attacked off of Italy a matter of months ago.
A private yacht.
There have been cruise ships that have been taken.
The Le Ponant, which was a French luxury cruise vessel, was hit by pirates.
It was coming back empty from the Seychelles Islands through the Gulf of Aden.
So the crew was on board.
But the, you know, that was a cruise ship that was attacked.
And so it's rampant worldwide, and chaos is reigning at this point on the high seas, and the governments of the world, the militaries of the world, are unable to do what they need to do, and that is to make the waterways as safe as possible for merchant ships to go through.
Merchant vessels, we're unarmed, we're civilian merchant mariners, and we don't have weaponry.
I mean, merchant mariners are paid to take people back and forth, like on a ferry, and From one place to another.
Or cargo.
Whether it be oil, or whether it be, you know, ten Nike tennis shoes, or anything that people buy in the store that comes from overseas, by and large it comes by ship.
And merchant mariners are the ones who take it.
We're civilian.
We're not armed.
And as I said in the last segment, a lot of countries do not allow the personal ownership of weapons, and that restricts Being able to have armed merchant mariners, which is something I think we need to do.
I know you brought that up.
We need to discuss that.
I agree.
But in any way, piracy is rampant worldwide.
And who bears the cost?
The people who pay the good.
There's right now, the insurance rates have increased on the average of a size of, say, the ship of the Cirrus Star.
$100,000 to $200,000 just for additional insurance to go through the Gulf of Aden.
Private security forces are being hired by companies.
To protect their vessels going through these areas.
And at this point, I don't see any stop to it.
What's going on right now is not putting any more than a minor dent in it.
And I don't believe if we continue on, I'm not saying it might not mitigate it some, but it's certainly not going to cut it back or eliminate it by any stretch.
alex jones
All right, quick break, long segment coming up, Captain.
I want to get into where you see this going and what other mariners and ship company managers, where they see it going.
If it's up 500% on record, you're saying probably more like 1,000% in the last year.
Where's the bottom of this?
If there is one, you talk about it threatening global trade, it's already doing that to a great extent, jacking up prices.
And then how do we get the ships armed?
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Are you a mariner?
Do you know anybody who is a sailor who's seen pirates here, been involved in it?
Are you thinking about going into the Merchant Marine?
Are you concerned about this?
What about the United Nations trying to push through the law of the Sea Treaty for global government to run 76% of the world's surface that is saltwater?
Another 1% is freshwater, so 77% of the world's surface covered in water.
This is a watery planet, a blue jewel, spinning and hurtling through the Milky Way galaxy in deep space.
Arbiting a standard sun and all over this little jewel are mariners.
They're the people that brought the Mayflower here.
They're the folks that discovered with Leif Erikson when Europeans first discovered this continent.
It was mariners from Polynesia and mariners from Asia that clearly didn't just come across the Bering Strait, but people Central and South America.
That's been proven.
They found jade only from Asia, of course, and some of the Aztec, Mayan, Toltec.
Idols. And the languages are similar.
All of this is so important, and 500% increase in what they admit piracy, really 1000% because less than half of the ships reported, because they don't want their insurance going up.
This is a real crisis.
Not to mention, all the people off the coast of California, people in the Gulf of Mexico, folks down in the Caribbean being robbed, being killed, and the media doesn't Report on it.
It's kept very, very quiet.
Only when they murder some prominent person do you hear about it, and that's constantly going on.
So, very, very dangerous, very, very rough.
Madison Avenue tells all the rich yuppies to go out to sea, and then they don't come back.
Not to mention the dangers of the sea itself.
I'd like to talk about some of the storms you've been through, some of the things you've witnessed, the most concerned, the most white-knuckled you've ever been, why you got into being a mariner.
Such a romantic thing, but so beautiful, but also so dangerous.
But before we go there, let's continue with just how bad the piracy has gotten.
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So finishing up with just how prolific it's gotten, and then, how do we arm these ships?
captain kelly sweeney
How bad is it?
It's so bad that the head of the Naval Task Force in the Gulf of Aden He said yesterday that naval forces patrolling this area are not going to stop piracy.
alex jones
That's in Yemen.
That's in Yemen.
captain kelly sweeney
Yes, and that's in Somalia, Yemen, that whole area.
It's not going to stop piracy.
And he's right.
One of the problems with, and we hear a lot about sending ships down there, different naval ships going down there, and yes, they're patrolling, but we're talking about a huge area here.
You know, we're talking needle in a haystack.
And the bottom line is, there's no coordination between all these naval forces.
Like, for example, the French have two frigates down there, and they are going to announce that we're going to give priority to French ships, French-owned or French-registered ships, to go through here.
And everybody else has to line up and take a number, and then we'll take care of you.
There's one opening in December, and there's one in January.
And that's the way that it's going.
There's no coordination.
And the pirates know this.
They work together.
There's no government in Somalia, basically.
So they're working with warlords ashore, and they definitely, and that's why they like cash, because cash is a lot easier to dispose of than, let's say, you know, a container.
alex jones
Well, this would be easy, though, if they just did a month-long operation, put four or five AWACS up, track ships leaving, track where they were going.
And then the minute they went after a ship, just go in and strafe it until it sinks.
And you do that, they would quit real fast.
captain kelly sweeney
Well, the problem is, we got the mariners on there.
And me and my buddies, you know, my fellow shipmates, or my fellow mariners, are on board these ships.
I mean, there have been so many examples in the last year and since, in the last few months, when pirates have taken ships in plain sight of U.S. naval vessels, That's the problem.
alex jones
You have to hit them.
You've got to have intelligence on the ground, and they can find out in five minutes who the pirate ships are, and then just blast them when they near the other ship.
But then they'll say that you're killing people without due process.
captain kelly sweeney
Well, that's right, and that's actually one of the things that I think is a major problem, is that when they, for example, they had some French commandos that came in after Le Ponant, that cruise vessel, was hit by pirates, I think it was in April of this year.
They went into Somalia, actually landed in Somalia, and took six of the pirates that were identified in that attack.
They brought them back to France, and then they said, well, now what?
Because they're Somali citizens.
And it's like, no, you can't try Somali citizens in a French court, pal.
That's not going to work.
And so now their hands are tied.
And legally, there's all kinds of wrangling.
They don't know what to do.
And so there's no international mechanism to try and punish the pirates.
Once they've been taken.
And of course, there's misinformation.
It was recently reported, I think it was like two weeks ago, that the Indian Navy had sunk one of the pirate motherships.
And there was a lot of cheering in shipping circles when that was reported.
And well, what happened a few days later, the reports came out that no, that wasn't a pirate mothership.
That was actually a Thai fishing trawler.
And the 14 fishermen, all civilians who were on there, Are presumed dead and missing, because it wasn't a pirate mothership, it was actually a trawler that was controlled by pirates, and now it appears that the Indian Navy made a mistake and blew up a wrong vessel.
alex jones
What about the British success they just had?
captain kelly sweeney
Well, the British have managed to, and there's been various repelling with military forces of pirates, mainly because of their proximity when the merchant ship is attacked.
The other thing is, when ships are high out of the water, when they have a lot of freeboard, which is, you know, the amount of vessel above the waterline, when they have a lot of freeboard, it makes it very difficult, and fast vessels are difficult.
The problem is, merchant vessels are not built in general for speed, they're built for economy.
And so, like the Cirrus Star, which was taken, and that's, by the way, the largest commercial vessel ever taken by pirates in the history of our civilization.
And that $100 million worth of oil that's on there right now, and that hijacked vehicle was actually bound for Texas, by the way.
But when the pirates take the ship, it's slow.
It's only going 15 miles an hour.
They throw grappling hooks up on there, they swarm aboard the ship, they have AK-47s and grenade launchers, and they take the ship.
alex jones
Well, we know the answer then.
We know governments want a monopoly of force, a monopoly of power, so governments everywhere aren't letting merchant ships arm themselves.
We need to have an international convention, of course they won't do this, an international convention where nations are signatories, people know it's a safe port, to allow heavy armaments to be put on ships and then sailors can choose if they want to have a training course And sign a liability waiver, and then sign on to ships that are armed or aren't armed.
I mean, there's no way I'd go out to sea on a ship that didn't let me be armed, but I know they don't let you be armed, because you can't call at the ports.
captain kelly sweeney
That's true.
My last ship, I was working in Panama, which they've had some armed attack incidents against vessels going through the canal, waiting to go through the canal.
And we were a slow-moving, 10-knot, 12-knot vessel.
And we were an easy target, low to the water, and that's the way a lot of merchant ships are.
Oceanographic ships.
A good friend of mine I went to school with kept on an oceanographic ship.
His ship got attacked off Somalia, and that thing has a high speed of like 12 knots, and it's only like 10 feet above the waterline.
Because oceanographic ships do scientific research, they're slow.
I agree 100%.
We need to either one or the other.
Either have armed guards on board vessels.
A good friend of mine is on a ship right now supplying the troops in Iraq, and he's over in Dubai right now.
They have armed guards with Uzi's and AK-47s patrolling that vessel 24-7 in that area.
They're hired by the company, they're paid by the company, and they're patrolling the vessel for the protection of the ship and the crew.
And this argument that, well, you know, merchant ships uh...
shouldn't have uh...
weapons or even private recreational voter shouldn't have it all by the way that it might be because there are merchant vessels that are armed now zim container line which is the israeli container line and many of your listeners are probably either seen it as in container line ship or being zim containers on the highway being pulled by a truck uh...
every one of those crew members on board a zim container line ship is armed with an uzi and they know how to use it They're officially in the National Guard, the Israeli National Guard.
Every one of them is a citizen.
And I know, I have a good friend I went to school with who is a big shot at Zim.
Every one of those guys and women on board that vessel, on the board, all their vessels...
alex jones
How do they call it ports?
So they just don't call it ports and don't let them defend themselves?
captain kelly sweeney
Nope, they call it the ports because they're officially in the Israeli National Guard and therefore are not civilian.
And they are allowed to carry the Uzis.
As a result Or the Kazim Container Line ship.
alex jones
With an Israeli flag on it, they don't mess with that.
captain kelly sweeney
You bet, man.
You never hear about that.
When you know you're going to be facing 26 Uzis and people who know how to use them, yeah, well, we'll take a pass on that.
The Military Sealift Command has civilian merchant mariners that are government employees.
They're not military.
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Well, I'm telling you, these bigger ships need barrettes mounted in housings that are waterproof, pop open.
You need something where you can, you know, really take on these pirates.
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We need, we need to have something because what we have now is fire hoses and, uh, you know, I mean, fire, that's one of the big things that they have.
Fire hoses are like, uh, you know.
alex jones
Yeah, they're now using sound cannons.
What, one, um, cruise ship did use sound cannons to run them off though, but that was a brave guy at the sound cannon running them off.
captain kelly sweeney
Yes, that's one thing.
It's called an LRAD and they have limited effectiveness, but yeah, pirates put earplugs and then, hey, then it doesn't bother them as much.
alex jones
All right, stay there.
Let's continue talking about the solution is not having a global government Taxing everybody and then they still won't keep you safe from the pirates.
The answer is arming all the ships.
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We'll talk more about solutions and how to organize the mariners together and their companies to have a real solution, not global government, law of the sea treaty, to tax everybody and put UN international ships on 76% of the Earth's surface, the water.
That's the plan here.
It's the imploding world economy that is really generating a lot of this crime.
I'm going to go to calls in just a moment, but do you agree with that, to Captain Sweeney?
I mean, why?
I'm sure there's other reasons, too.
Why is it just getting so bad?
Has it been an incremental march?
I know it's been getting worse the last decade, to where now it's just become so profitable that more people are getting into the piracy business?
Or how does the economy falling apart fit into that?
captain kelly sweeney
Well, I think the global economy has something to do with it, but ships move regardless.
I mean, you know, to get 95% of basically of the world's goods move over water from one place to another, but that are traded.
So I think it has to do more with the success of the pirates.
Success breeds success, and now it's spreading elsewhere.
And actually, it's to the point now where shipping companies have said, we're going to go a different way.
And so there are now companies, Marist Line is one of the, I think, the biggest shipping line in the world has announced That they are not going to send a number of their vessels through the Gulf of Aden and the Suez Canal anymore.
They're going to go all the way around the Cape of Good Hope or all the way around Cape Horn to South America, around South America.
alex jones
And that will add incredible cost and danger.
captain kelly sweeney
Absolutely. And the pirates might just ship their operations down there.
When the shipping lanes increase down there, they're going to have to round the horn.
They'll be maybe hanging out right there.
And who pays ultimately is, obviously, we all know who that is, the consumer.
alex jones
I know another solution.
We need to call for a letter of marks with the French, the US, the British, the Germans, the Russians, the Chinese, the Japanese, paying for a letter of mark to go out and hunt down the pirates.
And of course, eggs will be broken in the process, but that's better than allowing world government to be set up through this.
captain kelly sweeney
Well, I think what you hit the nail on the head was the arming merchant vessel.
Because what saved us that night, on Christmas night 2003, when we were hit on my watch in Rio Haina, was those two armed guards who were able to fight back.
Me, with my pipe wrench, I wasn't going to do much with what I had available.
And a lot of merchant ships, their plan is to have a safe room where the crew can hide down in the steering gear.
And hopefully not get killed by the pirates and then let them take over the ship and they all huddle into a safe room that's got food and water and supplies.
And so we need to have, in my opinion, either armed guards on board the vessels or arm the merchant mariners.
I've heard all kinds of arguments against it.
alex jones
Well, that's a lot less expensive than having to circumnavigate the globe.
captain kelly sweeney
Oh, yes.
Oh, yes.
And we would feel a lot better.
And, you know, Military Sealift, VIM, they have training.
You know, there are thousands of Merchant Mariners now who have weapons on board, and they're trained.
You know, you have under lock and key.
The senior officers have access.
When you go on a Military Sealift command, I have a good friend who's a civilian on there, a Merchant Mariner.
On the bridge of those ships, they've got an M1.
Uh, shotgun, I think they had M14s and they've got an M9 pistol for people on the bridge.
alex jones
I think the answer would really be the big semi-automatic shotguns, the high-capacity.
captain kelly sweeney
They're nice, yes.
And, uh, and also...
alex jones
Well, that's what the Marines use, so...
captain kelly sweeney
Yeah, and you know, we need to have that, and we need to have, uh, the military.
I, you know, I have a lot of old friends who were old-timers in World War II during, uh, in the, you know, a lot of the convoys supplying the troops, whatever theater it was, in Europe or wherever.
And they said, you know, we had military convoys, and the outside was the military vessels, and the inside was the merchant ships carrying the vital supplies, which is what we do, from one place to another.
And I see it, at least in certain high-piracy areas, like the Malacca Strait or the Gulf of Aden, and maybe even in the Caribbean.
alex jones
Well, that's what the British East Indies and the Dutch East Indies, they would always have, they would go in convoys and always have a few military ships.
captain kelly sweeney
That's right, and I think we need to do that.
And right now it's unorganized, it's helter-skelter, and we're talking about a very large area.
The Gulf of Mexico, What a great piracy target a drill ship is.
I mean, you have a high-tech ship that is sitting there drilling, putting pipe into the, you know, to drill for oil out on the Outer Continental Shelf.
It's just a sitting duck, and, you know, what a great target.
You know, their merchant ships are a target worldwide, and the authorities are not doing it, you know, and so if we're not going to do it, I think we need to take care of it ourselves.
You know, we have to have convoys through the most dangerous areas and organized convoys.
Not helter-skelter where the French say, okay, well, you know, we can fit you in next January.
You know, we just wanted to wait until then.
We need to have organized convoys and we need to have armed merchant vessels or armed guards on merchant vessels.
You know, what gives the pirates the upper hand is their weaponry.
We need a level playing field.
alex jones
Absolutely, and it's very inexpensive.
What, on the bigger ships, put five, six guards, smaller ships, just a couple guards.
I mean, right there, that'll give you guys the edge to repulse these attacks, and then the pirates will go off and do something else.
But if we let them keep robbing, they're going to build themselves up into an international combine, a global force, and then it's going to be even that much harder to deal with.
We're going to take your calls from BL, John, Chris, Donna, and others.
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Captain, let's take some calls.
Alex? BL in Texas, you're on the air.
Go ahead.
unidentified
Hi, Alex.
I have just a couple of things for Captain Sweeney.
Captain, 55 or 60 years ago, it was common practice for a merchant or a private vessel to have an arms locker on board.
And just like an international shipping container, when you entered a port where arms were restricted, the harbormaster would put a seal on the arms locker.
Now, when did that stop being common practice?
captain kelly sweeney
I have never been on a ship that had an arms locker, and I've been going to sea about 28 years.
And I don't know when it stopped, BL.
The only ships that I know that have it now on the American flag are the military seal of command vessels.
alex jones
I had a great uncle who ran away when he was 13 years old.
He moved back to the farm once he was grown.
But he ran away, went to Houston, went to Galveston, got on a ship, went around the world, was on ships, came back.
And I remember my dad talking about how they had arms locked.
Yes, and I'd like to see those days come back.
captain kelly sweeney
I would 100% like to see those days come back.
unidentified
Well, Captain, are you aware of the Greek freighter, Elevita?
captain kelly sweeney
Elevita? No, tell me about that, BL.
unidentified
Well, they got tired of the whole Pirate problems, so they electrify their decks with 220 volts AC when they enter pirate waters.
captain kelly sweeney
Yes, I do know about a similar system.
It's called the Ship Secure System.
It's marketed by an outfit in the Netherlands.
And what they do is very similar to that.
They have, and I wrote about that in my previous article in Professional Mariner Magazine.
People can check it out at professionalmariner.com.
But they have the ship secure, and it's not really a fence.
What it is, at the gunwale on the outside, it extends outward, like beam, metal beam, all the way around the ship.
And then they lay these wires on top of it, and it extends further out.
And so when the pirates grab it, it automatically sounds an alarm on the bridge.
Uh, it lights up the area of the vessel that has been, uh, uh, boarded and has been, uh, you know, where the, where the connection is.
And then I believe it, I'm tempted to say 9 million volts.
Wow. I could, I could be wrong on that.
alex jones
So it's a shipboard generator.
captain kelly sweeney
It's a ship, yes.
It's generated from the electricity on the ship and it basically, uh, it doesn't allow them to, uh, you know, to grab on and to board by, you know, cause they use grappling hooks or whatever to get over that.
And one of the things that I have, and it's been marketed heavy, and the international shipping community is pushing merchant vessels to have this, because it's a quote-unquote non-lethal method of repelling pirates or armed attack.
The problem I'm concerned about is, what if they short that out?
I mean, and that's the thing, and I'm not sure exactly, you know, if they could throw something, a metal something up there and ground it to the ship itself, And that, I don't have the answer to that yet.
But yes, BL, that's very astute of you.
And yes, they do have that system that they're marketing.
unidentified
Well, Captain, I think the day of the Q ship has come again.
An apparently unarmed vessel that is heavily armed.
captain kelly sweeney
I think you might be right on that, my friend.
unidentified
Now, firing on a vessel that hasn't demonstrated hostile intents just should never happen, whether you're the Indian Navy or whoever you are.
But once a vessel has fired on your vessel, you should be able to respond with devastating firepower.
captain kelly sweeney
I'm with you, brother.
I'm right there with you.
I agree.
Because it's the life of me and my shipmates out there.
unidentified
I'll tell you what, I've been going to sea my whole life.
I don't go on the water without a firearm.
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alex jones
All right, BL.
Good to hear from you.
John in Canada just hung up.
So we'll go to Chris in Texas.
Chris, you're on the air.
unidentified
Good morning, Alex.
Good show so far.
I'm glad you're hitting this topic.
But I've got to say that other people have been piloted and rocketed.
Hold on.
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Totally distorted.
unidentified
Totally sorry.
alex jones
How about now?
Yeah, you sound fine.
Go ahead.
unidentified
Yeah, I know people have been totally pirated in Rockport, Texas.
I know of incidences in Cozumel, but I will never go to CSBL, just said, without a weapon.
And what I do, when I pick up a target on radar, and I'm on a recreational vessel, I will certainly start assembling my weapon and try to reach them on the radio.
And if they get closer, I'm going to start firing over their bow, because if they get close to you in international waters, they're going to kill you, and they're going to scuttle you.
And most people don't truly understand How devastating this issue is around the globe, because I've sailed in the Med, I've sailed in the Caribbean, I've sailed in the South Pacific, and it is truly a horrible situation that has not truly been addressed until today.
captain kelly sweeney
Well, thank you, Chris, and I appreciate your insight.
Yes, you're a smart guy.
What do you do about ports?
alex jones
Do you have a hidden compartment for your firearms?
unidentified
Alex, I break it down into several pieces, and you stow it in different areas on the vessel, and you just have to take that risk.
When you're going into a foreign port, especially on a recreational, and I'm speaking from a recreational standpoint.
alex jones
Yeah, that's the point.
When tyrannical government keeps the people from protecting themselves, it really does come down to immoral laws just have to be broken.
unidentified
It's either you or them, and when you're out at sea in international water, your boat is your island.
You are the king, you're the president, you're there to protect the boat, you protect your passengers, you protect your crew.
And you only have one shot at it, literally one shot at it.
And if you pick them up on radar, and they're, say, 16, 20 miles out, you get them on radar, and they're coming towards you, you start to hail them on the radio, and they don't answer you, and they keep coming towards you, you start assembling your weapons, and you get prepared for a situation.
You have to be prepared.
captain kelly sweeney
I agree, and it's unfortunate that recreational boaters are put in a position where if they have a weapon to defend themselves, that they face prosecution or being locked up in another country.
unidentified
The only thing you have on board, quite frankly, if you don't have a weapon, is a pyrotechnic flare gun.
I mean, think about that.
That's the only thing legally you can carry on board your boat as a recreational boater.
alex jones
Those are pretty deadly, though.
I've got a whole bunch of them.
unidentified
But you've got to be close, and they're not very accurate.
alex jones
All right, let me go further here.
You know, they tend to bounce off.
I have heard from the people that go out on the, you know, 100 mile, 200 mile fishing trips that people are being robbed, are being killed, it's all kept quiet in the media.
You're saying you've heard about piracy in Rockport?
unidentified
That's correct.
Rockport, Texas, one of my clients delivering his boat from Florida, just inside state waters, was pirated.
He let a boat get close to him, they came on board with guns, they robbed him, they didn't kill him, and they didn't scuttle him, but they took everything on board their boat.
And that's a huge risk that you take, even in our state waters.
And the problem is, around the United States, our Coast Guard is not worried about that.
They're more worried about interdiction, drug interdiction, and weapons interdiction.
alex jones
No, I don't worry.
They're not thinking about illegal boaters.
Were these guys American that robbed him?
They were.
unidentified
They were, and there are pirates in every culture and every society.
It's something that has been happening forever and ever and ever.
You think about New Orleans.
New Orleans is well known for centuries as a pirating mecca.
I mean, it's truly well known about that.
alex jones
New York was the greatest pirate mecca ever.
unidentified
And Captain Sweeney made a great point.
Think about the Gulf of Mexico.
What's going on just off our shores out in the Gulf of Mexico?
It is truly, you've got thousands of square miles where recreational boaters are buying these gigantic million dollar yachts Wanting to move around between Florida and different ports.
alex jones
And nobody tells them.
They don't even put somebody on watch.
They just pull into some cove or tie up to something and get killed.
unidentified
The problem is, Alex, as I said, if you protect your boat, you protect your crew, and you protect your passengers.
So what do you do?
alex jones
Somebody never sleeps.
You've always got to stay up.
unidentified
Well, you've always got somebody on watch, but as an example, I always take night watch because night watch to me is the most deadliest time to be out there.
alex jones
Not to mention ships running over you.
Go ahead, Captain.
captain kelly sweeney
Well, I was going to say with Chris, Chris makes a very valid point.
It's interesting, though, that at least in the Gulf of Aden, the vast majority of the pirate attacks are during the daytime.
And I think that's because the pirate vessels, even though they're very fast, they don't have radar.
They don't have navigation.
Obviously, they don't have navigation lights or anything like that.
Yet, anyway, well, at least they have some sophisticated equipment to track the vessels.
But that might change, I think, because as they get more and more sophisticated equipment, they're going to be able to tell whether the ship they're coming alongside of is a merchant vessel or a naval vessel.
alex jones
Yeah, exactly, because they're doing that for their own safety, so they don't pick on the wrong target.
Again, the fear of self-defense.
unidentified
That's right.
alex jones
What else have you heard about in the Gulf of Mexico, Captain, and Chris?
unidentified
Cozumel, a boat was pirated two years ago because they had a stowaway.
A gentleman got on board the boat, he had an automatic weapon, and once the boat got underway, he started shooting people, and then his pirate buddies came alongside and came up on board.
I think the cruise ship industry right now is in a critical time.
We just saw, as Captain Sweeney pointed out, two ships that have barely escaped.
Once these pirates decide or figure out a way to get weapons on board the boat first, And then start killing people and killing crew and taking over the flybridge and the pilot house.
Then we're going to see the cruise ship industry suffer.
Then you're going to have thousands of people held hostage and robbed at sea, and that is coming.
alex jones
That is the next phase of what's already been happening.
But is that a danger in the Caribbean, Captain?
captain kelly sweeney
The cruise ship, as far as the cruise ship?
alex jones
Yeah, and most of that's in Africa, right?
captain kelly sweeney
Well, yeah, right now it's in Africa, but you know, cruise ships are very They're high out of the water in general.
They have a lot of freeboard, and they're not an easy target.
But I tell you one thing, when there's been attacks, as Chris, and I mentioned earlier, as Chris pointed out, there have been attacks on cruise ships in the Gulf of Aden in the last week and a half.
And if they get, if the pirates actually get control of a cruise ship, it's going to be the golden jewel.
Because what's going to happen is you're going to have hundreds, Uh, crew members or up to three or four hundred crew members.
alex jones
It's going to be a giant international incident meltdown.
Thousands of hostages.
You bet.
captain kelly sweeney
You bet.
And actually one crew is landing.
alex jones
And again, these are the real terrorists, so the government's doing nothing about it.
captain kelly sweeney
Well, the problem is...
alex jones
Meanwhile, they've got us all afraid of boogeyman al-Qaeda.
Yeah, that's right.
captain kelly sweeney
And actually, a RAND study came out earlier this year that pointed exactly to that, Alex.
The RAND study pointed out that the U.S. government, uh, under Bush, has been, uh, And to a large extent, at fault for some of the increase in piracy, because they focus so much on the doomsday scenario of terrorism.
And I'm not saying that we shouldn't have that, but the everyday reality of piracy has been largely ignored.
And even the RAND study came right out and said that, you know, maritime terrorism is one thing, and yes, a lot of times that's politically And I'm not saying that...
alex jones
But it is terrorism, even if it's for money, when you kidnap people and kill them.
It's the same thing, you know.
unidentified
Yeah. What better place than when you think about it, where if you're going to take over a ship at sea, all you have to do is kill the crew, kill the passengers, and scuttle the vessel.
I'm talking on a recreational aspect, you know, 150, you know, 100 to 150 foot yachts, or something along those lines.
Those are million dollar pieces of equipment.
They have a lot of things on board, and a lot of wealthy people on board, and you've got a graveyard in the ocean, quite frankly.
captain kelly sweeney
I think if the pirates actually managed to hijack a cruise ship, and actually what's happening now, the German cruise line, I think it was the MV Columbus, I think last Sunday, what they did then, instead of transiting through the Gulf of Aden and the Red Sea with the passengers on board, they anchored off the Suez, they took everybody off and they flew them by plane.
All the entire group of passengers, hundreds of passengers, over to Dubai, and then the crew brought the ship through, and then they met the, they're going to meet the vessel, the passengers are going to meet the vessel over in Dubai and continue the world cruise that they're on.
That's what's happening.
The companies are starting to avoid the area, and what happens to them, it's a snowball effect.
Egypt derives the vast majority of its money from the Suez Canal.
Okay, billions of dollars a year.
Well, now fewer ships are going to start going through the Suez Canal.
So Egypt gets less money.
It further destabilizes the area.
This is a snowball effect of piracy.
You know, you're going to start paying more, and I'm sure you already have, and paying more for things as we go.
Anything that's coming from overseas.
alex jones
It's amazing.
We're going to break in just a moment.
Anything else, Chris?
unidentified
No, thank you, Alex.
Great show, Captain Sweet.
I'm going to get your book.
I appreciate you just being out there doing this, Alex.
You're doing a great job, my friend.
Well, thank you, Chris.
captain kelly sweeney
And hey, go to the website, Maritime Headhunters.
What I'm going to do, I'm going to give everybody who's listening and says they heard me on Alex's show today, I'm going to cut them 10% with no shipping, and I'm going to sign the book for them and send it out.
So go to the website, MaritimeHeadhunters.com.
alex jones
MaritimeHeadhunters.com.
Let's jam in Donna in New Hampshire, then we'll hold her over.
Go ahead, Donna.
captain kelly sweeney
Hi, Donna.
unidentified
Hi, thanks for taking my call.
My husband is a captain in the Gulf of Mexico, and this is one of my major concerns.
I'm concerned because the International Monetary Organization has recommended that merchant mariners be unarmed, and that poses a great big problem for me as a wife who sits in New Hampshire while her husband's down in the Gulf of Mexico.
captain kelly sweeney
I understand completely.
My poor wife, has felt the same thing.
I had just called her Christmas Day from Rio Jaina before we got attacked.
And there was a guy on the dock who, for 25 cents a minute, would let you use his cell phone.
And I know exactly what you're saying.
It's a terrible feeling.
unidentified
Donna, stay there.
alex jones
Stay there.
Hold for the break, okay?
I want to talk to you on this side, so don't hang up.
We'll come back to Donna after the break with Captain Sweeney.
Maybe we'll twist his arm into five minutes in the next hour so we can take a few more calls.
After that I'm gonna get into all this other news and information.
But this affects you even if you never go to sea.
And it's also a public service announcement because the yuppies don't know how dangerous it is.
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Captain, we can keep you five minutes to the next hour, can't we?
captain kelly sweeney
Alex, you can keep me as long as you want, brother.
I can stay for a half hour after, whatever.
I love you.
I have informed listeners, and you are a great host.
You are sharp, man.
You obviously have been doing your research, so I can stay as long as you need, my friend.
alex jones
Well, I appreciate you being with us.
I try to study all subjects that I can.
Knowledge is addictive, as you know.
That is the true value in the world, the true riches.
But I want to learn a lot more.
That's why we have you on with us.
Donna, yes, the International Monetary Fund, others, the U.N., they don't want anybody armed, so things will break down so they can be the global force.
They're openly saying that.
And unlimited numbers of U.N. ships taxing the seas, taxing world commerce, that's what it is with the Law of the Sea Treaty, that is not going to protect the ships.
Only arming the ships.
Go ahead.
unidentified
Well, then the other thing is my husband had to apply, I'm sure, as all maritime seamen go.
They have to apply for the Twix card.
I think that was the last straw for my husband.
My husband said this was one step before every mariner becomes chipped.
And this was concerning on top of the fact that Lockheed Martin was the one who prepared all these Twix cards.
And just one more thing I would say to everybody out there, whoever wants to take a cruise ship, That most ships are not foreign flagged.
And that concerns me because Americans are going to become targets.
And unless you have a U.S. flagged vessel, you know, you're not going to be protected.
We saw that, I think, back in the 90s when the ecstasy caught on fire and all the crew members of that boat got off and left every one of the passengers.
alex jones
Yeah, that was that Greek ship, right?
unidentified
No, the Ecstasy was the one off Florida.
alex jones
Well, there was another one where the captain got himself off.
captain kelly sweeney
Yeah, that was the, uh, yeah.
Yeah, he went, yeah, the Killy Laurel.
That's where he went.
He came with the Greek captain, went ashore.
Hey, I'll call you from ashore and let you know how things are.
But Donna's right.
What she was talking about with the TWIC card, which is the Transportation Worker Identification Credentials, not only for U.S. mariners, longshore workers, truckers that go on container terminals.
People who work in offices at container terminals or cargo terminals, port workers who go there to repair things or fix things, you know, whatever.
Anybody who goes on a terminal, and they're all U.S. citizens.
And I wrote an article about the TwitCard and Professional Mariner.
People can see it in the archives, professionalmariner.com, from a mariner's point of view.
You know, most of us have no problem Going in there and doing what we gotta do because, you know, we gotta stay employed.
alex jones
But this is a worker ID for the Feds to track everybody.
captain kelly sweeney
Yes, that's right.
And the problem is, though, even though there were, I don't know how many, I think it was 17 ships that had identifiable links to Al-Qaeda after 9-11, merchant ships, foreign merchant mariners don't have to go through the same screening process.
alex jones
No, no, it's only for us.
captain kelly sweeney
It's only for you.
And it's like, you know, how can, and I even end this in the article, and professional mariner, when I ask this question, How can U.S. ports be safe when only U.S. workers...
alex jones
No, it's federal control of our activities.
Homeland Security wants every American to have to have a similar card to have any job.
I saw the head of it, when Ridge was the head of it, say that on C-SPAN.
Let's start the call now, finish it up in the next segment.
Thank you, Donna.
Let's talk to Dan in Texas, former Coast Guard.
captain kelly sweeney
Oh, hey, Dan.
unidentified
Hello. Alex?
Yes. Hey, yeah, this is Dan.
I'm a retired Coast Guard.
I served for 21 years active duty, and I just want to let you know that it's a real privilege and honor to speak to you, and thank you for all your insights and help.
And I just want to touch on a couple things.
A lot of people have brought up the point about tactics, and that they're on target and tracking.
It's the only way to protect the crew, because without the crew, it's just a hole.
And with a hole, you know, it's useless.
And they could be in a watery grave, and that's what all mariners are...
Subject to its power.
So, you know, I thank you for putting all these people together to bring these points up.
Because we have to have surface assets that are coordinated to help each other.
And that's real important.
alex jones
Stay there.
Tell us more about that when we get back in 70 seconds, OK?
And then we're going to go live at PrisonPlanet.TV with Captain Sweeney right now when we come back in the fourth hour.
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