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unidentified		Big Brother.
		Mainstream media.
		Government cover-ups.
		You want answers?
		Well, so does he.
		He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
		And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
		Music by Ben Thede.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, ladies and gentlemen, out of the gates, we have General Hamid Gul.
		And, of course, he was the head of Pakistani intelligence back in the 1980s.
		He went on CNN on Sunday night on one of their international programs and talked about the fact that he believed 9-11 was an inside job and that the Mumbai attacks, formerly Bombay, were also an inside job.
		As you know, we have detailed that that was a false flag attack carried out by Western intelligence, clearly in India, as a pretext to start World War III between the two nations.
		There were also calls.
		The Pakistani government has now said that were officially made, confirmed with the phone records, from the Indian foreign ministry saying, we are going to attack you, attempting to trick the Pakistanis into launching some type of attack, and that almost happened.
		And so for the next 30 minutes, I am very honored to be joined by General Hamid Ghul.
		And General, joining us from Pakistan, thank you so much for coming on with us.
unidentified		today. You're welcome.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Just out of the gates, I was told by your son that you were not happy with the CNN interview that they edited you, so you've got the floor, sir.
unidentified		We're not going to edit Well, at the moment, we have to look at this great human tragedy that took place in Bombay.
gen hamid gul ▲ ● ▼		I sympathize with India.
		They've been rocked very badly.
		And their response is a bit nervous.
		They want to go to war with Pakistan if Pakistan does not behave or does not hand over whoever they want from us.
		They have given a list of people.
		But I think there has been a long record of the Indians accusing Pakistan whenever something like this happens.
		And in the past they have turned out to be every time wrong.
		Of course, Pakistan is willing to cooperate, and I think that's a good position that President Zardari has taken, that you provide the evidence and we will try them out, we will arrest them, we will put them to trial, and you can come and watch, see, let the international cameras come and see, and there should be a transparent, open trial, and if that does not succeed, If that doesn't satisfy you, then what else will?
		So this is the situation where we stand today.
		There is an ominous threat from India and America seems to be quietly patting them on the back and asking Pakistan to do whatever India is demanding.
		Now this is an unfair position because India is not like America.
		America demanded from Pakistan back after 9-11 to cooperate and Hand over anybody that Pakistan could lay their hands on.
		700 or so people were caught in Pakistan.
		They were sent to Gunturama Bay, to Bagram, and to Kandhar jail.
		And nothing came out.
		Khalid Sheikh Mohammed is the only one who's been tried in that case.
		All others have been let off.
		So, to get innocent people like that, just because you accuse them and you don't even provide the evidence, you pick them up and shove them in jail, This is not on.
		I think this belittles the human values that particularly democracies uphold and they talk so much about.
		So I think Pakistan's offer is good enough.
		And today Pakistan cracked down on some of the defunct organizations.
		In fact, these were banned in the year 2002, immediately after 9-11.
		But there could be some maverick elements among them who would still, I won't rule out, could carry out on their own or in conjunction with some other forces, such kind of atrocity.
		But we have to wait and see how it goes.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Mr. Gould, General Hamid Gould, please stay with us.
		We're going to break and come back in a long segment.
		Plenty of time for you to break down what's really happening, the serious tensions being risen due to what happened a few weeks ago in India.
		Please stay with us.
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unidentified		music
		Big Brother.
		Mainstream Media.
		Government cover-ups.
		You want answers?
		Well, so does he.
		He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
		And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Reading from Wikipedia, General Hamid Gould served as director General of Pakistan's Inner Service Intelligence, ISI, during 87-89, mainly in the time when Benazir Bhutto was Prime Minister of Pakistan.
		He was instrumental in the anti-Soviet support of the Mujahideen in the Afghan war, 79-89, a pivotal time during the Cold War, and it goes on.
		And we have him online with us.
		Of course, yesterday played the CNN TV interview he did that was heavily edited.
		This is live and is not edited.
		Going back to him in Pakistan, we've tried three different lines.
		This is the best one we have.
		We apologize.
		Our audio is not loud to him.
		It's not very audible.
		And obviously his audio back to us is very, very broken up.
		But we nevertheless have him joining us, and we're very thankful.
		Sir, continuing, on the CNN program, at least what they edited you to say, you talked about 9-11, the evidence being that 9-11 was an inside job, and the attacks in Bombay, now Mumbai, a few weeks ago, that the evidence was it was an inside job.
		Can you go over the evidence that you believe that these are false flag events, sir, and why these false flag events are being staged?
gen hamid gul ▲ ● ▼		Are you talking about 9-11?
		I have my own reasons.
		You know, Rod Norland was the senior reporter here.
		I think he was based in Islamabad at that time.
		And he came to me immediately after 9-11.
		And his version that I put out, it was given to the Newsweek and unfortunately it was blocked.
		But it appeared on the internet, on the website of the Newsweek.
		And you can see it, I think it is dated 16th or 17th of September 2001.
		And in that I had said the same thing, and I still maintain that that's my position.
		I have following reasons for it.
		A, that 9-11 took place on the American soil.
		Not a single person has been caught inside America.
		Even though for doing such a job, I think a huge amount of logistic support is required in the area where such operation is carried out.
		Secondly, the air traffic control, when they saw that four aircraft were changing direction, going from east coast to west coast where they were headed, they started traveling in different directions.
		And it is quite amazing that for For a very long period of time, the Air Traffic Control did not report this, nor did the U.S. Air Force act in time.
		If one were to calculate from the first flight when it took off from Logan till the first aircraft and the solitary aircraft that took off was an F-16 which took off from Langley, which is CIA's headquarter, instead of one of the operational bases So many of them are available in that area.
		And then a single aircraft never takes off because we have been told that wherever the aircraft scramble, they scramble in twos.
		And the time that it took was enormous.
		It was 112 minutes.
		So 112 minutes is a very long time in which to act.
		Was the U.S. Air Force sleeping?
		And if it was sleeping, which heads were rolled?
		Second, it was a huge intelligence failure, and no heads have been rolled, nobody has been taken to task, not a single person has resigned for this.
		Thirdly, the air traffic control should have been rehashed, they should have been turned inside out, but nothing of the sort happened.
		And finally, how come this is a coincidence that four transponders did not work, It is not possible.
		The direction is changed and it is not noted.
		Secondly, the U.S. Air Force has the ability, because in the past, whenever a plane has been hijacked, the record is that within seven minutes, the U.S. aircraft has been on the wing of the hijacked aircraft.
		In this case, it did not happen.
		The U.S. alert system is so high, And it is so sophisticated that if a missile was to take off from Moscow and was to head towards New York, it takes about 18 minutes.
		And the U.S. Air Force and the missile system is supposed to intercept it within nine minutes.
		That means on the Atlantic or on the Pacific, it must stop that missile from coming in.
		The system is in place, but it did not work, and nobody Lastly, no inquiry has so far been held formally into the incident, and the whole world has been turned upside down.
		So many people have been killed, American economy is going into a meltdown, and everything has gone wrong with the world, and yet no formal inquiry has been ordered by the US government.
		So I really don't know.
		There are so many questions which hang in the balance.
		And then to top it all, they say that Ata Muhammad, who took training on a light aircraft in Miami for six months, he could have manoeuvred a Jumbo 757 from a height where it was travelling.
		The height was 9,000 and it came within seconds to a height of 1,000 and then went straight into its target.
		Now this is not possible for General, We are talking to General Hamid
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Gul, the former head of Pakistani ISI, during the key period fighting the Russians.
		He was also, before he was the head of ISI, one of the chiefs, according to our media, running operations against the Russians, and of course working with the United States closely, as well as the Saudi Arabians and the British.
		And if that's incorrect, correct me.
		General Gul, What are the motives?
		We have PNAC with Dick Cheney saying they need a Pearl Harbor event.
		We have 44,000 U.S. troops mashing into Tajikistan and Uzbekistan in the days before 9-11.
		We have Bush on September 10th, Newsweek reported, ordering the launch of attacks the next week.
		We have, of course, the buildings being blown up with explosives and all of the witnesses to that.
		Now the government admits that Building 7 did fall in free fall, was not hit.
		Well, I think that after the Cold War, when the Reaganomics, it was known as, the inflation was very high and domestic issues had to be addressed.
gen hamid gul ▲ ● ▼		But Bill Clinton, two tenors, they really amassed a lot of money.
		American economy went booming, and he left a lot of money.
		And the hard-boiled coal warriors, when they came in, they found that the situation was ready.
		They had money, and they had resources.
		And they looked upon now the conquest of the world, for which there was an opportunity window.
		The Muslim world was lying prostrate.
		Russia was not still picking up from its foreign position.
		China was not ready yet.
		And therefore, they looked upon it as an opportunity to go and do the following.
		And in this, I'm a soldier, and I know that there has to be a single aim, but they mixed up the aims, and they have botched up everything.
		First, they said that they would go into such strategic areas where there was no U.S.
		presence before, such as the Western Asia and South Asia, They had to keep the Chinese off from getting into the Middle East.
		They had to lay their hands on the energy tap of the world, which presently lies in the Middle East, but in future it will be in Central Asia.
		And so Afghanistan is the gateway to Central Asia.
		And finally, to suppress any resistance, particularly which could threaten the state of Israel, Now, that is where they, instead of pursuing the American objective, they started pursuing the Israeli objective, and that is where they went wrong.
		You have to pick up a single aim.
		This is the first principle of war, and I don't know why the generals and the politicians of America, they could be so naive and so ignorant that they started mixing aims, and they went into this war without wisdom, without particular preparation, and without the American support behind them.
		Because if they had gone to vote and asked for support from the American people, they would have never given this support.
		So they had to create a pretext, and this was the pretext that they created.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Perhaps I can get you to stay a little bit longer because I want you to be able to speak unedited to the American people and the people of the world.
		I want to shift gears into Mumbai, what happened in India.
		Clearly the evidence of even the Indian intelligence chief, as you know, was saying that the Indian government was staging terror attacks on the train.
		An army captain was caught doing that and arrested.
		The chief of anti-terror was threatened.
		He was killed that day when it started in Mumbai.
		Now they have caught an anti-terror police officer giving cell phones to the supposed terrorists that they're saying came from Pakistan.
		We know the West Can you hear me?
gen hamid gul ▲ ● ▼		I can't hear you properly, but can you hear me all right?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir, I can hear you.
		When we come back, we will speak to what happened in Indy.
		Yes, yes, yes, yes.
		Good. Why they are staging terror attacks there, the evidence of false flag inside job in India.
		So when we return after this quick break with the former head of Pakistani intelligence, General Hamid Gul, joining us from Pakistan.
		I am coming to you from Austin, Texas.
		Hence, the phone troubles.
		We'll work on those, sir, during the break.
		We will be right back.
		My websites, of course, are InfoWars.com and PrisonPlanet.com.
		Stay with us.
		We'll be right back with this exclusive interview.
unidentified		We'll be right back.
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alex jones ▲ ● ▼		It is December 9th, 2008.
		General Hamid Ghul One of the most famous members and commanders of Pakistani intelligence who worked with the United States in the whole operation against the Russians, was the commander of those operations, is our guest with us graciously until 40 after.
		General, I'm not wasting any more time.
		I listed earlier the fact that Indian intelligence captains in the army have been caught in India staging bombings.
		That's Indian news.
		That Indian intelligence and police have been caught giving cell phones to the supposed shooters.
		The police stood down And only the anti-terror commanders that had said that India was staging terror, they were killed in the initiation of the attacks in Mumbai.
		That's some of the evidence of Mumbai being an inside job.
		Namely, why do you believe Mumbai is a staged event two weeks ago, A, and B, what is the motive?
gen hamid gul ▲ ● ▼		Well, the motive is very simple.
		Americans want Indians to come on board with them in their war against terror, especially when they've run out of troops in Afghanistan.
		The NATO allies are pulling out.
		They are dragging their feet.
		They're not prepared to fight there.
		But they want to make it an Indian call, and they want nearly 150,000 troops in Afghanistan.
		That is one reason where there is an American motive There is an Israel motive which is similar, that the Americans should not pull out of Afghanistan just because they are short of troops, so they must have more troops there, because if they go away without denuclearizing Pakistan, the state of Israel will remain under perpetual danger.
		So they have an innate fear that Americans may lose heart and pull out of this region.
		They are already going out of Iraq.
		And if they were to go out of Afghanistan as well, this will be an unfinished agenda, and that Israel would be at the losing end.
		So the neocons and the Zionists, they together want to hatch a conspiracy so that Obama gets trapped into a situation where for the next four years he will keep on sorting out this imbroglio.
		As far as the ability is concerned, which is the other element, can you This is impossible.
		They were carrying so much of munitions with them and that that munition lasted.
		They were fighting virtually the crack troops of the Indian Army for so long.
		And you know that in Narima House, the five Jewish hostages, they were killed by the Indian commandos.
		They were not killed by these people.
		So why would the Indian commandos kill them?
		And Israel suppressed this information.
		It initially came out in one of the Israeli dailies, but then it was suppressed.
		So if you go by the record of the Indian accusations against Pakistan, in the past, in years, In 2001, on December 13, there was an attack on the Indian Lok Sabha, and they blamed Pakistan and Lashkar-e-Taiba for it, but it turned out that these were Indian Kashmiris themselves.
		And because India is committing so much of atrocities in Kashmir, therefore there's a good reason for them that they would carry out something like that.
		Then again in 2006, there was this Samjhata Express case in which 68 passengers, mostly Pakistanis, were killed.
		And this train was stopped at an obscure railway station in Haryana.
		And then doors were locked and the train was set on fire.
		And again, this was the claim that it was Pakistani Lashkari Taiba and that they had done it because they wanted to derail the peace process.
		But now Colonel Sirikant Proth has been caught in it.
		And there are other Indian officers who are his accomplices.
		And he has a big network.
		They took the RDX from the Ulali depot, which is a military depot.
		So one can say that there is a deep penetration of the militant Hindus in military and intelligence organization in India.
		So in this case, why would they not do that?
		Because they want to again derail this process.
		And when Obama says that he will mediate on Kashmir and not...
		Obviously, the militants in India do not want this to happen, and they had to preempt it.
		So, Pakistan doesn't gain.
		The Pakistani ISI doesn't gain anything from it.
		The net beneficiary is either Stay there, sir.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		We have to break.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		We have to break.
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alex jones ▲ ● ▼		We're talking to the former head of Pakistani intelligence.
		The ISI.
		I want to thank Paul Watson, who we've got on the line.
		He's going to pop in with a question or two.
		I want to thank Simon over in the UK for getting an assist number.
		And I want to thank Aaron for staying up late last night to get the producing job done to get this interview right here on the GCN radio network.
		General, continuing with motive, I have the headline here.
		Pakistan asserts hoax war call was real.
		Press Minister fingers India High Commission as source of reports.
		uh... that uh...
		threatening shell call was fake as you know this is in most of the major pakistani papers the government has a caller id and the phone records but the threatening call shang that india was going to be uh...
		attack Within minutes of the terrorist attacks beginning in Mumbai a few weeks ago, this provocative call within minutes saying India was going to attack Pakistan, attempting to get Pakistan, I guess, to move troops to the border and have a conflict, and the media saying that a possible war between the two thermal nuclear powers was narrowly averted.
		Can you speak to that?
unidentified		Yes, indeed.
gen hamid gul ▲ ● ▼		I think the Americans and the Indians both have been very responsible about it because Condoleezza Rice's statement in India when she went and visited Delhi, they were very threatening towards Pakistan, and it was sort of a dictation that you have to satisfy India.
		Now, this is amazing that Pakistan had to satisfy India.
		On what score?
		Indians have still to come out with the evidence, and as far as this one man that they have caught, who knows?
		There are lots of Pakistanis who crossed the border illegally or legally and he could have been picked up and he's become the front man for singing all those stories.
		So one doesn't really know.
		It's too early to start threatening war against Pakistan because Pakistan is a nuclear country and if they brandish their power, conventional power, Then I can assure you that as a soldier I will say that a conventional war, limited war within the nuclear environment is not possible in the subcontinent.
		And if it comes to an exchange of nuclear weapons, then this becomes a third world war.
		China cannot stay out, Russia will not stay out.
		Russia is already showing its belligerence towards America and Europe.
		China, of course, is a very major economic power.
		They are a nuclear power, and if this thing happens in their backyard, they will not accept it.
		So, this is a very dangerous situation.
		I think it's playing with the fire.
		So, the whole thing is getting...
		could get out of hand.
		It is, again, as I told you, that the part of the unfinished agenda that Newcombs had in their mind, And they think that now Obama will carry it out even though the Americans want a change.
		But let's look at what change means.
		Obama has not very clearly enunciated what change would be.
		But one can assume that change means focusing on the domestic issues.
		There is an economic meltdown.
		The car industry is going sick.
		And many other things are happening inside America.
		The social welfare and the Medicare, etc.
		So in all these things, There is a need for the new administration to focus entirely on the domestic issues, and for that it will have to disengage externally.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		General, as you know, in the last three months before Obama was even elected, he said Pakistan and Afghanistan would be his main focus, the strikes inside Pakistan.
		It's clear that his change means, what Zbigniew Brzezinski wants, shifting What the Rand Corporation has said they want, shifting the war out of the Middle East into Central Asia.
		So I believe the change is going to be these provocations.
		Look at the neocons with Israeli and NATO-backed forces launching a sneak attack on the Russian-held South Ossetia on 888.
		So it appears that they are trying to launch Yes, indeed, you're right, because this is an old theory,
gen hamid gul ▲ ● ▼		which is a geostrategic theory, put out first by Mackinder and then by Mahan, who was an admiral in the U.S. Navy, that this is the rimland, you have to first control the rimland in Asia before you can strike in the heartland of Asia.
		This Heartland-Rimland thing, I think it fits into the story.
		It fits into the picture that if they have a conflict in the Rimland and they can control it, and then it becomes so much easier to go and penetrate into the Heartland.
		But this is really asking too much at a state when America is not in a very healthy economic condition.
		No, I think this is a brinkmanship of the highest order, and if they enlarge the area of conflict in this war against terrorism, and if they prolong the period of conflict, then America will definitely lose.
		Because I know that when you are fighting the irregular fighters, when the area of conflict is enlarged, let's say it's extended into the tribal areas of Pakistan, or it is pushed into Kashmir as well, So that China can be monitored and watched quite easily.
		Then the area will become larger and the US simply does not have the troops.
		And there is not a moral cause strong enough for the American people to be mobilized behind it.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		So that's why they need proxies like India to destabilize the region for the encirclement of Russia and of course China blocking those pipelines.
		Now sir, in the time we've got left, You worked with the United States, with Saudi Arabia, with Israel, or at least Pakistan did, fighting the Russian invasion.
		Uh, of course, uh, if these reports are incorrect, correct me, but you were one of the main, uh, commanders, uh, helping the Mujahideen, then you were the head of Pakistani intelligence, uh, right at the time that you finally had the victory, uh, against the Russians.
		Uh, it is reported here that Al-Qaeda was founded by the new Secretary of Defense Gates and Zbigniew Brzezinski, uh, or, uh, that they were the Wahhabist Fighting Corps, uh, and that they are now being used to try to bring down, uh, the Pakistani government and to stage attacks Uh, inside, uh, uh, uh, India.
		Uh, so can you speak with your particular expertise to that, and then also the fact that they're trying to now list you as a terrorist, and then thirdly, uh, did, did you ever meet Osama bin Laden?
		Is Osama bin Laden dead many years ago of kidney failure, as Benazir Bhutto said?
gen hamid gul ▲ ● ▼		Well, I was actually in charge of operations against the Soviet occupation of Afghanistan, and the Americans were providing the logistic support, and the Saudis were sharing one half of the budget for this war.
		And it was a cheap war, because in all those ten years that we were fighting the Russians, we spent not more than $5 billion out of the American exchequer.
		So it was a very cheap war for the Americans to have defeated the Russians and rid the whole of the West of this Red Menace that they used to call.
		So at that time, Osama bin Laden and his colleagues, they were admired and they were romanticized by the CIA operators.
		I had never met him then.
		I had nothing to do with him because I was only busy training the Afghans.
		We had to win a war.
		We had a task on our hands.
		It was a very big task.
		And we were so occupied with training only the Afghans.
		No other national was trained by the ISI.
		I can vouch on that.
		Not a single person, not even a Pakistani, was trained by them.
		Osama bin Laden was...
		I had never met him, but these people used to come and talk glowingly about him.
		I met Osama bin Laden after my retirement from the army in 1993 December in Khartoum and then again in year 1994 November when I was there invited by Hassan bin Torabi to an international conference and during that conference Osama invited us to a banquet and it was all in an open place and there were many other people present.
		He struck to me and I don't Well,
		in that the CIA and the other US intelligence agencies authenticated that it was Osama's voice.
		So one doesn't really know whether he's living or dead.
		But even if he's not living, he's now a symbol.
		Al-Qaeda is a franchise.
		Whoever created that, and for whatever reason they created, I think it wasn't there until 1996 when he was lodged in Khartoum.
unidentified		Later on, he was invited by Burhanuddin Rabani, who is now a symbol.
gen hamid gul ▲ ● ▼		Yes. General.
		bin Laden.
		And also of the fact that his commander was responsible for bringing the Black Hawk down, the famous operation in Mogadishu, where an American aircraft was brought down by a stinger which had probably been supplied in Afghanistan.
		Okay, General.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		General, I need to, in the time we have left here, because we've only got a few minutes left with you here, maybe five minutes and we're going to break and I don't want to keep you any longer, we can perhaps have you back up in the future.
		Specifically, though, we know his CIA control name was Tim Osman.
		We know he was the bag man for a lot of the Saudi money and the Israeli money going in.
		I know that was compartmentalized and separate from Pakistani intelligence, from what I've read, from different perspectives, and U.S. intelligence.
		So, I believe you there.
		My whole point here is, is that clearly Al-Qaeda, Al-C-I-A-D-A, didn't carry out the attacks of 9-11 as you yourself There's been a lot of There's
gen hamid gul ▲ ● ▼		no doubt about it that this video which was put out in November by George Bush and said this was Osama Bin Laden, he was a high cheeked bone like the mongoloid features, he wasn't as tall as Osama Bin Laden was and one could clearly make out that this was doctored, this had been created on purpose just to justify the attack on Afghanistan.
		I think there are many things which are going wrong or being Well said.
		Is there fear that America would lose its clout, whatever the reason, or it is perhaps the Israeli fear that they are surrounded by a sea of hostile enemies who could, if the Americans don't now at this point,
		point in time, they don't deliver a fatal blow to all their enemies, then Israel, who have a short shelf life, otherwise also, because it is an artificial state, that they would probably not exist, or they would have...
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		General, as you know, they have, in the time we have left, they have over 400 nukes, they have total dominance, no one could attack them with nukes, they have the anti-missile defense systems, I believe it's a red herring that they want to start World War III for their, quote, safety.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		It's World War III that will destroy Israel.
gen hamid gul ▲ ● ▼		Yes, indeed, and I think this 2006 September experience, I think if it is any indicator for them when they went into southern Lebanon and they got such a buffeting at the hands of Hezbollah, I think they dare not do something like that because Okay.
		annihilation of Israel.
		And in any case, this Palestinian question is a very thorny question and I don't know why the U.S.
		administration is not addressing it differently.
		Okay. Instead of these two different states, there should General! Something new has to be thought about.
		But unfortunately, Bush administration, at the advent of its tenure, it said that they would sort out this Palestinian issue by creating two states.
		But after eight years, we have gotten nowhere.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		All right, General, we're almost out of time.
		Two final questions, and I'm going to let you go.
		Any websites, any books, any materials you'd like to point people at to see your side of the story, we'd love to see it.
		Two questions.
		Let me give them both to you, and then answer them, please.
		Number one, why are they trying to now list you as a terrorist?
		A, when they admittedly worked with you.
		B, why do they always betray people like Saddam, who they worked with and set up?
		So, A, why are they trying to now set you up?
		B, where do you see the Pakistan-India situation going?
		Do you see the West staging more terror?
gen hamid gul ▲ ● ▼		Yes, I think they are simply afraid of me because I worked with them, I understand them, I can measure them up and I talk loudly about it.
		I make no words, I pull no punches.
		And they are afraid that I preempt whatever screaming they do.
		And I am...
		Loud voice.
		There is no doubt about it.
		And I speak the truth.
		They are trying to frame me.
		There is no truth in it.
		If they had anything about me, when I applied for a renewal of my visa to America, why did they not give it to me?
		Because if they have something, they are looking around for terrorists.
		Why this terrorist wants to come over and visit America, nab me, interrogate me, take me to task, take me to court, do whatever you like.
		It only shows that they have a malafide.
		As far as Saddam Hussein is concerned, this is their habit.
		It is a very bad habit.
		They cultivate friends who become like perversion of dictators, and then they make use of them, and then they turn upon them, and, in fact, the nation suffers because of their policies.
		And what was the last part of your question?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		All right, I'm going to just...
gen hamid gul ▲ ● ▼		Where is the India-Pakistan relationship going?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Sir, hold on one moment, General.
		John... Hold on, General.
		General, one moment, because we only have a few minutes left.
		John, skip this network break.
		For stations, I'm skipping because I'm going to let him go in three minutes.
		I don't want to hold him any longer, but I'm skipping this break because this is too newsworthy.
		Yes, sir, I'd like you to answer that question about what do you think, knowing them, working with the Globalists, the New World Order, in the past when it was still America, before we were totally dominated, what do you think their next moves are probably A most probable A. And then finally, the attacks against the government in Pakistan using Muslim fronts, does that appear to be the West trying to destabilize your government?
		They keep trying to kill the government, they kill Budo, they keep bombing government buildings, they keep bombing hotels.
		It appears the West is using false Mujahideen to try to overthrow Pakistan.
gen hamid gul ▲ ● ▼		No, Benazir was not killed by any of the terrorists.
		She was removed by Americans because she had violated our agreement because they wanted to keep Pervez Musharraf there and he slapped another martial law on Pakistan.
		So she had become rebellious and such a person who is a popular leader of a third world country, head of the largest political party, a woman who they could not attack as fundamentalist because she was so westernized, Therefore, it was very important for them to remove her because they have a mischievous plan which they want to put through.
		So, they have installed instead Mr. Zardari, whom they can blackmail very easily, but have allowed him to keep the powers that of a dictator.
		And, in fact, he is the one who is calling all the shots in Pakistan.
		So if at all, Pakistan is already destabilized politically.
		Our judicial institution simply does not exist because there is a judicial crisis recently.
		The dethroned Chief Justice.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yes, who is staging the terror attacks because they're clearly aimed at the government?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Or is that the government staging them as a pretext to crack down?
unidentified		No, no, no.
gen hamid gul ▲ ● ▼		This is because Lal Masjid was attacked.
		And I think George Bush addressed his nation on radio immediately after that, that this was part of our plan in war against terrorism because they were suspecting that Pakistan Army and the Inter-Services Intelligence were not fully cooperating because they did not consider it was their war.
		Therefore, they created this situation where the terrorists out of sheer revenge, this is called Pakhtunwali.
		This is a tradition.
		It has nothing to do with Islam.
		The Afans were beholden to this tradition long before they became Muslim.
		When you take action against an Afghan, kill his daughter or his wife or his sister, he will take revenge no doubt what happens.
		And he does not behave like a Muslim or any other entity.
		So this was a thing which was created.
		And of course Pakistan is now in a very difficult position.
		We only have a small I think so.
		not under control of the political party, the political power.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Sir, sir general.
		What is political power when parliament is sinecure, it does not work, it has no authority General, going back to 9-11, Pakistani papers, BBC reported, New York Times reported, $100,000 was reportedly wired by General Mahmood Ahmed, the head of Pakistani intelligence, to the lead hijacker, who we know is a U.S. government decoy, trained at U.S. bases.
		That's Newsweek, AP Reuters.
		General Mahmood Ahmed, do you believe he really was being controlled by the CIA?
		Did he really wire $100,000 to Mohammed Adam?
gen hamid gul ▲ ● ▼		Not at all.
		Mahmood is a friend of mine.
		I met him very recently in Lahore, and he categorically denies this.
		I think this is all disinformation which has been adopted as a very sophisticated intelligence art.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		So, just to be clear, we're going to let you go, and we're very thankful and respectful of your time.
		You believe that the bombings and terror attacks and shootings that we've seen the last few months in Pakistan are because the predator drones and helicopters are killing weddings, which you always notice it's a wedding.
		That's meant to stir up the people there because it kills whole families.
		It's a huge insult.
		And then of course they blow up NATO cars.
		Of course they then attack the government.
		Is that what you're saying?
gen hamid gul ▲ ● ▼		This is retaliatory and they will retaliate.
		I can tell you that Afghanistan nation is such that Over 5,000 years, nobody has won against them, and I think Americans cannot win unless American intention is to stir up a third world war from this point.
		I think there is no point in staying in Afghanistan.
		We should negotiate with the opposition, which is a national resistance now.
		It is no longer Taliban-specific.
		It is the Afghan nation, true to their traditions.
		They are resisting ferociously.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		General, how long can the mayor of Kabul stay in power?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And isn't this really just about the West controlling the opium?
gen hamid gul ▲ ● ▼		Well, he's a puppet of Kabul and he will not stay very long.
		I can assure you that he's already started showing signs of nervousness.
		He wants to reach out to the Taliban, but Taliban would not even throw a crumb at him.
		I can assure you I have no idea, but I think the vibes have started coming out, like Robert Kagan's article in Washington Post on December 2nd.
		It echoes what is the World at Risk report.
		It is similar.
		They are focusing on Pakistan because Pakistan's nuclear capability is undigestible by the state of Israel and by India.
		And therefore, there is every possibility that Pakistan becomes a target.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		In closing, in closing, and this is it, we appreciate all your time.
		This hour is over in two minutes, sir.
		What do you see happening?
		I know you can't predict the future, but do you see them staging a nuke attack?
		Do you see them staging more terror attacks?
		Do you see India sneak attacking?
		Do you see a more radical government coming in after the staged events?
		What do you see happening?
		Bad case scenario?
gen hamid gul ▲ ● ▼		No, Indians are not so stupid.
		I think they have seen through the game.
		And the leftist parties, that is the left-front, they are called the Communist Party in India are very strong.
		India is slowly turning towards its own problems.
		They shine India, shining India, feel good India.
		This is all make-believe.
		Yes. So
		India, 231 are already in turmoil and mostly under the control of moist and reductal light.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		So they are collapsing?
gen hamid gul ▲ ● ▼		Yes. So India itself has lots of problems of their own.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		You're right.
		The GMO caught and made them commit suicide because it destroyed their lives.
		Well, General Hamid Ghul, thank you so much for joining us.
		Any websites, any books, any materials you think people should read to learn more?
unidentified		Yeah.
gen hamid gul ▲ ● ▼		Thank you, Seth.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Any books or websites that you think people should read to learn more?
unidentified		We'll be right back.
gen hamid gul ▲ ● ▼		I don't have a website, unfortunately, but I think you have a website.
gen hamid gul ▲ ● ▼		They can read all my...
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely. We'll post the audio and a transcript at InfoWars.com.
		Let me say bye to you as this hour ends, as we go to break, sir.
		Ladies and gentlemen, we'll be back with a second hour.
		Again, I want to thank General Hamid Gul.
		An amazing exclusive, folks, unedited live.
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alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I know a lot of our affiliates join us in the second, third, fourth hour.
		Boy, did you miss it, but I'm gonna re-air it.
		That interview is so powerful and so important.
		I'm definitely going to re-air some of it today and all of it tomorrow.
		It'll be posted at InfoWars.com.
		We just had General Hamid Gul, the former head of Pakistani intelligence that ran the operations against the Russians, talking about everything.
		The CIA staging videos of bin Laden.
		I got most of my questions out.
		I didn't get into how the FBI doesn't have bin Laden on the most wanted list.
		That was unedited, live on air, and I had Paul Watson waiting in the wings, but it was Well, I think he spilled the beans on just about everything, didn't he, Alex?
paul joseph watson ▲ ● ▼		So I didn't expect him to be so explicit in, you know, going on record as saying that America was behind the Butoh assassination, the Bin Laden tapes are staged.
		Obviously, he told CNN what he thought about 9-11, but they never gave him the time to go into detail about it, which he did on this interview.
		And perhaps that's, you know, we've heard a few of the reasons today why the U.S. government is trying to put him on a terrorist list and get the U.N. Security Council to denounce him as a terrorist, because he certainly Yeah, That's why he's spilling the beans now, because he knows if he gets it all out, there's no reason to go after him.
		That could be it.
		I mean, obviously, he's being accused of doing under the sun.
		He's accused of being the mastermind of the group, the Pakistani terror group that's being blamed for Mumbai.
		He's being accused of creating the Taliban.
		being the man in 1998 who tipped off bin Laden that the US were about to launch the missile strike on him because they had tracked his satellite phone and even in 2004 according to this article out of India he was identified as being bin Laden's master planner behind 9-11 so he's being accused of just about doing everything, obviously you're denying it all.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Oh, he made NORAD stand down and made the US troops I'm not saying he's a good guy, I'm not saying any of these guys are great guys.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		The point is the U.S. works with them or creates them and then stabs them in the butt.
paul joseph watson ▲ ● ▼		Exactly, which seems like it's happening to him now with the, uh, even though he's publicly said that he will go to the UN and, uh, quote, present himself for inquisition before a UN commission to clear himself of charges that he had links to Al-Qaeda and the Taliban.
		So he's fully prepared to do that.
		And, uh, I don't think they'll let him do it, though, because it'll only give him another opportunity to have a public platform.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, I put the question to him about bin Laden.
		And I mean, he's a former intelligence chief.
		I'm sure he wasn't saying everything and there might have been some deception in there, no doubt, to protect himself.
		But we know what the record is, and we know they did keep the operation departmentalized with the Saudi side, the British side, the U.S. side, and the main side with Pakistan directly funneling the weapons in.
		But then the CIA did a lot of the training.
		Just an amazing interview, Paul.
		I mean, how do you put all that into one article?
		I hope you and Steve and everybody else, Curt Nemo, we need stories on all of this, Paul.
		This was just absolutely amazing.
		I'm glad you're a source in London.
		Simon gave us his phone number to get a hold of his son.
		And just a blockbuster interview.
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		I want you to stay there, though.
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		The major British newspaper has come out and admitted world government is being shut up, okay?
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alex jones ▲ ● ▼		In closing on the General Hamid Gould interview, we made contact with him yesterday afternoon and then confirmed the interview at around 11 o'clock last night, about 9 in the
		And a journalist we've worked with, I don't know if he wants his name mentioned so I won't bring it up, in London, lives next door to some of the family.
		Our relations to the Gould family.
		And so that's how we were able to get that for you, ladies and gentlemen, on the heels of the CNN interview where they heavily edited him.
		We're just bringing you both sides here, and I agree with the information he's bringing out because it fits with all the evidence and the investigations we've done on each and every one of these cases.
		The globalist operations, their past operations, and currently what's happening.
		So they've had army captains, army colonels.
		This is in the Indian news.
		Everything he was saying is in the news in India.
		And he's right when he said, India has now woken up.
		And for a few days they were like, yes, attack, attack India.
		Now they're going, wait a minute!
		And they're finding out it was staged.
		Now, here in the United States, they're not.
		But, just absolutely amazing, and we will post that audio interview for everybody at InfoWars.com or PrisonPlanet.com.
		And we will, hopefully, we have great listeners that volunteer it.
		I don't have the staff that does it, but I hope that a transcript will be made by our listeners of that interview.
		And then an email to Aaron at InfoWars.com.
		We'll check it for accuracy.
		And then get it posted, and that'd be a great service to everyone to be able to read that transcript.
		I know Paul will listen and do limited transcripts because, you know, he can't transcribe the whole thing and then still write the article.
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	the rest of this segment and we're going to shift gears to children Being kidnapped and dying in foster care.
	I see these articles every day.
	And now for a world government.
	This is the Financial Times of London, the most respected newspaper in the world.
	The real paper of record, where they do throw it in your face, is the Financial Times of London.
	Whereas other papers are 90% spin and lies, where they'll tell you the truth but then say it's a good thing, the Financial Times of London will throw it in your face.
	They admitted Three years ago, they were going to implode the small banks and insurance companies, cut off liquidity to the world, and then the banks were going to set up world government.
	They admitted a year and a half ago that they were going to call it a bailout, but it would really be a takeover.
	Well, and now for a world government, and it's an article up on prisonplanet.com.
	We're linking to the article itself, and Paul Watson did a boil-down of it.
	Financial Times editorial admits agenda for dictatorial world government.
	And it says in the article, the article says we need world government because of terrorism, financial collapse, all of this, and they don't tell you that the globalists are staging that.
	But they admit it's going to be dictatorial, it's going to be a world dictatorship, but that that's what we need.
	And it admits the major players have been secretly working for decades to set up world government, run for and by the banks, you will pay carbon taxes to them, it's all there.
	And it links to reports that go into more detail.
	Now are you going to hear Rush Limbaugh?
	Are you going to hear Sean Hannity?
	Are you going to hear any of these people?
	No, they're going to keep saying it doesn't exist because they have to neutralize conservatives.
	Liberals have been taught world government's good and sold on the Kool-Aid.
	Okay, a world socialist state.
	They're starting to wake up too.
	Conservatives are who have to be manipulated.
	And if OxyContin Head ever told the truth, he'd be off the air.
	So, that's why he won't.
	Folks, they'll have a world emperor in 20 years and they'll be saying it doesn't exist.
	Okay, Paul Watson, this is incredible.
	But, I mean, we've seen thousands of articles in the last two months admitting New World Order, World Government, but this is admitting it's dictatorial.
	It's incredible, Paul.
paul joseph watson ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
		There was one about a week ago called Obama's New World Order, which was roughly around the same principles.
		But, yeah, this is an editorial by Gideon Rackman, who is the chief foreign affairs correspondent of Financial Times.
		Which, of course, is staffed by top Bilderbergers.
		They're always represented at Bilderberg, in particular by Martin Wolf, the associate editor.
		So it's the establishment newspaper.
		It's the newspaper of the elite.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's not the New York Times that's about to go bankrupt, by the way, having the mortgages building to stay in business over 200 and something mil.
		This is it.
		And again, we can't live in denial anymore, folks, all of you out there.
		Stop acting like children and denying this, Paul.
paul joseph watson ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's right.
		I mean, you were called a nutcase throughout the 90s.
		Other people have been called similar for decades for warning that we were moving towards a centralized global government.
		And this article lays it all out and admits it.
		And the telling thing about it is that it says that a system of world government basically will only be successful if it's Anti-democratic, because it makes reference to the expansion of the EU and the fact that every time they put the expansion of the EU to a vote, like in Ireland recently, and they're trying to get that pushed through again, you know, if they just don't know, they just have another vote.
		The people always reject it, because they hate it and they know it's anti-democratic.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And by the way, despite the media universally hailing it, it failed in Ireland this year.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		They're already bringing it back up to another vote.
paul joseph watson ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, they just keep having another vote until they say yes.
		They just keep beating it into people.
		And this article admits that the only way...
		Global government is going to be successful as if it's anti-democratic and dictatorial.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, I mean, the Pentagon, the Ministry of Defense all say that.
		That's what NAFTA, GATT, we're now 15 years into that.
		Look what it's done to us.
		They don't care.
		They're doing it.
		And the yuppies have been taught that world government doesn't exist, so they walk around reading their luxury clothing catalogs, sucking their thumbs, acting cool, posing and preening for each other.
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alex jones ▲ ● ▼		All right, final segment with Paul Watson.
		Then I've got a gentleman coming on, Greg Pound.
		They kidnapped his children years ago.
		The lady that did it even...
		Lost her job for it.
		They say we're not giving him back.
		He's in the nightmare system of Florida.
		His wife had another baby and had to flee.
		And just every day I see where foster care kills another child.
		I mean, I'm not even looking for these news stories.
		Uh, and I mean, every time I hear on the news about some child caught in chains or in a cage, they hardly ever say it was foster care, but I'll go Google the local stories and then dig deep.
		And then sure enough, find out it's always, I mean, 99% of the time foster care.
		They live in cages, they torture them, they rape them, they sell them to sex slavery.
		The Texas Youth Commission, don't believe me, Google it.
		Tens of thousands of children, they sell them.
		They have prostitution operations in the prisons.
		Those are the 10 and 12 and 13 year olds.
		This is hell released.
		It's going on all around you.
		That's why I stand against the New World Order, regardless of what happens to my life or my fortune, my blood, my family.
		I will fight these people.
		They have to be fought.
		I mean, there's no if, ands, or buts.
		In closing, Paul, I think you've got to get busy on this huge interview we did in the first hour that was just ultra-massive with the former head of Pakistani intelligence.
		Huge, exclusive, unedited, live.
		We've got to do more on this in the next few weeks.
		I mean, I want to put out some articles.
		I'm giving orders to armies that don't exist, but everybody else should.
		Challenging Limbaugh.
		Challenging Hannity.
		You know, and like, post 20 or 30 mainstream articles with government leaders and politicians calling for world government, saying new world order means global government.
		And they still have all these think tanks and talk show hosts saying, there's no new world order, it doesn't mean world government, when they admit it means that.
		I mean, we were right about how they were going to put troops on the streets.
		We were right about getting rid of the governors in emergencies.
		We were right about positive commentators sending.
		We were right about them imploding the economy.
		I mean, we are right about everything because we're reading the white papers.
		We're reading what they say!
		And literally, you've got the governor now arrested by the FBI up in Illinois.
		Three months ago, he announces they're using National Guard door-to-door, confiscating guns in cities where they're banned, and it doesn't even make news!
		I mean, it just...
		I saw a story out of Atlantic City where the whole government's corrupt, and it was admitting that it's just all total criminality.
		I mean, everything's falling apart, Paul!
		And I know it's bad in England.
		The police knocked into a 70-something year old guy with a cigarette, no criminal record, a wealthy guy.
		They knocked the cigarette out of his hand.
		This is in the Globe and Mail today, and said, oh, you littered, and then gave him a $130 fine, a 60 pound fine.
		I mean, it's just government is just rampaging with evil right now.
		Every parasite, every nimwit, every scumbag is joining it.
		Go ahead.
paul joseph watson ▲ ● ▼		People are still in denial, even though today it's right out in the open in the Financial Times with this article, this editorial, and now for a world government.
		The key quote in it is, quote, international governance tends to be effective only when it is anti-democratic.
		So there it is right now, right there, it's saying it has to be dictatorial to have any kind of success.
		The one thing that we make reference to quite often is that Whenever these elitists or these globalists are confronted by people who say you want to create a new world order, which is essentially a global centralized government, unrepresentative of people and antagonistic to any form of democracy.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		It's a world dictatorship by the financial elite, in Devin Rockefeller's words.
paul joseph watson ▲ ● ▼		But they say it's not global government, it's global governance, as if there's any difference.
paul joseph watson ▲ ● ▼		Well, in this article it admits that fact that Global governance is just a euphemism for global government.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, in the dictionary, it means the system of government.
		So, it means government or to govern.
		I mean, that's how it's sustained for the public.
		They openly set up world government.
		I mean, Texas isn't even run by the state anymore.
		It's all international run.
		They're grabbing the power plants, the roads, federalizing and then handing that over.
		All our ports are being handed over nationwide.
		It's over.
		We could turn it around, it's all illegitimate, but they tell the public, oh honey, it doesn't exist.
		I mean, total disdain for the public.
paul joseph watson ▲ ● ▼		Well, this is what's admitted to in this article.
		It says they have to use soothing language to prevent people from reaching for their rifles in America's talk radio heartland.
		That's a direct quote.
		And then he quotes Jax Atali, who's an advisor to President Nicolau Sarkozy of France, who argues that, quote, global governance is just a euphemism for global government.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		See, they want our guns.
		The Financial Times, the foreign international affairs editor, they're openly saying they are neutralizing you with soothing language through Rush Limbaugh, laughing.
		None of it exists.
		This is high treason.
		Paul, it's incredible.
		Great job, my friend.
		Great job on the article, okay?
paul joseph watson ▲ ● ▼		Thanks, Alex.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Good job.
		We're going to cover this more tomorrow.
		I've got...
		We've got to fight them.
		They're kidnapping our children.
		That's part of a world government policy to break up the family stated in thousands of government documents.
		It's policy.
		They're putting poison in your water and food.
		It's all admitted.
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alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Committed to the species.
		Homo sapiens sapiens.
		And the great mission we have to people the stars.
		We will defeat the new world order.
		We will defeat the parasites.
		We will unlock our minds.
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alex jones ▲ ● ▼		This is my commitment to you.
		And I ask you to commit to me and to the rest of humanity together.
		To get out there and wake up everybody we know.
		And to expose the global parasite state that is the new world order crime syndicate.
		That is really the old world order of feudalism.
		Okay, you know, Greg Pound was set up for the show, and the last time we set him up, his phone works fine, but we try to call him and it doesn't work.
		Top of headlines I have, both sides blame children's agency, a boy in foster care severely brain damaged, the foster parents had Begged for help.
		Oh, they had begged for help, but...
		I mean, this is constant.
		You know, they're dying, being killed, on and on and on and on and on and on.
		Why didn't Polk County Sheriff's Office investigate deputies' role?
		And it just goes on and on.
		You know, these are the type of stories I have.
		So we'll be getting into that when he joins us.
		I wanted to just briefly get back into this.
		This is such a big deal.
		I mean, does it insult you out there that you were taught by Rush Limbaugh and taught by Bill Clinton who would also get up and say there's no such thing as a New World Order, there's no plan for global government, NAFTA and GATT aren't global government, or Bush saying there's no such thing as a North American Union when they signed it in secret in 2005 and then lawsuits were made and the documents got released and the first thing was keep this secret from the public.
		We're gonna have carbon taxes, we're gonna regulate everything, we're gonna take over all the major highways and tax everybody to fund the North American Union government.
		We're gonna put the Capitol in Atlanta, Georgia.
		I mean, this is going on, ladies and gentlemen, and they're doing it!
		They're doing it!
		And they know you don't want to go along, so they've Abolish the governors under PDD 51. Abolish the Congress.
		Congress is now ceremonial.
		We've had Inhofe and other senators and congressmen on record saying they were threatened with martial law.
		They didn't pass the Banker Takeover Bill.
		As of last Wednesday, I haven't seen a new AP or Reuters article since last Wednesday.
		$8.4 trillion in seven weeks stolen by offshore banks.
		$8.4 trillion!
		I want to tell the cops something out there that think None of this exists, the new world order doesn't exist, or if it does, it's good.
		They're going to take your pension funds too.
		Firefighters, school teachers, all of you.
		Auto workers, you're getting nothing.
		They're going to first cut back what you get, and then tax what you get.
		They've already announced that in Congress.
		And within five, ten years, maybe even sooner, you will get nothing.
		Nothing. You understand?
		So go ahead, go along with kidnapping people's children, with the CPS with no due process or warrants, and with a fraudulent family court system that doesn't have due process and isn't real, in the name of protecting the children.
		Go ahead and go along with raiding people's houses for marijuana, when the government ships in the heroin and cocaine and pushes All the other legal drugs that are much worse on the public.
		Go ahead and say there's no world government.
		Go ahead and say they're not bankrupting us by design.
		Go ahead and say I'm a liar.
		Go ahead, roll your sleeve up, take the flu shot every year.
		Go ahead and take it, full of mercury.
		Go ahead and give your children all the shots you want.
		Go ahead and use a cell phone ten hours a day up against your head.
		Go ahead and watch four hours of TV every day and get Alzheimer's.
		Literally causes brain damage, it lowers the brain waves.
		Don't believe me?
		Just mainstream government studies.
		Go ahead and eat GMO soybeans and corn and rice.
		Go ahead and become sterilized.
		Go ahead and drink lots of fluoridated water.
		Go ahead and just believe whatever they tell you, okay?
		Don't check into eugenics.
		Like we're interviewing one of the top experts on genetically modified organisms yesterday, talking about a case where a top scientist finds out that it's sterilizing all the rats, and then actually changing their DNA.
		And shriveling their testicles down to nothing.
		And attacking the ovaries of the mice and rats.
		And then when the higher-ups, she's all freaked out about it.
		And they call her aside and they say, don't worry, we need to, there's too many people, we need to sterilize everybody.
		And then these yuppies go, well there are too many people.
		Because they've been trained, that's trendy to talk about.
		Okay, well you go look at the African kids, or the kids on your street dying of cancer.
		That they're being shot up with, and the GMO causes.
		You go ahead and understand, jackass!
	It's happening to you too, you stupid idiot!
	I remember going back a year and a half ago, people walking me on the street, or I'd get emails, or I'd be trying to warn people at church, or, you know, wherever.
	I'd say, you know, they're imploding the economy by design, it's going to get really bad.
	The stock market's going to drop by thousands and thousands of points, and they're going to rob the pension funds.
unidentified		And they go, I don't care, I don't own any stock!
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Everyone's designed now, conditioned, to not care about anybody but themselves.
		When you care about nobody, you fall apart.
		When you care about nobody, you lose control.
		You become a slave.
		Nobody cares about you.
		Do you understand that?
		That you gotta put the big boy pants on, and live in the real world, and get out of your diapers?
		That corruption isn't cute and funny, it runs wild like cancer?
		Or like a staph infection?
		A flesh-eating bacteria?
		You understand?
		Stock market plunging affects everybody because it affects companies that capitalize and fund their expansion and operation and payroll with it.
		It affects everybody.
		It affects the company you work at.
		Even if you don't own stock, it affects everybody that does business with those companies.
		But you laugh about it.
		It's all funny.
		You've been trained to be self-assured, foolish people.
		Stop being arrogant.
		Stop being so self-satisfied.
		Stop thinking everything's okay.
		Admit there's world government.
		Admit classical tyranny's coming in.
		Admit. And you're like, I don't care.
		I've done nothing wrong.
		I like troops on the streets.
		I hope they arrest you.
		They're in my message comment boards every day saying that.
		I'm glad all this is happening.
		I can't wait till we get you.
		They even put their handle name and you link through to their handle.
		You find them on MySpace and they're troops.
		Or they're bureaucrats.
		Or they're nihilistic punk rockers or whatever they are.
		It's always different groups.
		Don't you understand that tyranny is for you?
		They want the tyranny to lower your standard of living.
		They want the tyranny to hurt the society.
		But again, these people are such cowards, they psychologically, subconsciously decide to join with the evil rather than fight it.
		Okay? Because it's so scary to admit this is going on.
		They go, okay, it's real and I like it.
		Okay, I like it.
		Well, you're enemies of the Republic, you're enemies of humanity, and you will be defeated.
		You understand?
		You will be defeated.
		You understand that?
		We aren't going to stop, and we aren't going to back off, and we aren't going to quit.
		We've been right about everything.
		And a lot of you are laughing.
		A lot of you will be crying later.
		You're still living in mommy's house.
		You're still in the military.
		Or do you still think everything's okay?
		You're going to find out.
		You're going to find out it's not funny.
		Evil's not funny.
		Wickedness and torture isn't funny.
		It's going to come back on you ten times what you dealt out.
		Alright, for the balance of this hour, we're joined by Mr. Pound, Greg Pound.
		And Greg, recap in about three or four minutes what happened to you, what's happening in Florida, and then this latest case.
		And I know you follow this every day.
		I read about foster children found starving to death or dead in cages, because that's normal standard.
		They put them in cages, I'd say about a third of the time.
		They starve them to death.
	They don't feed them.
	They're drowning every day.
	They don't have to follow any rules.
	They have swimming pools, foster things.
	The kid's drowning, not even a fence around it.
	CPS won't enforce against their own foster kids, foster parents, because they want to cover it up.
	Then there's the facilities that are even worse, where all the pedophiles go and work.
	And just nothing happens when all this goes on.
	And then now I played last week a clip of the head of foster care in an Oklahoma area going, children will die, so what?
	Yeah, they'll die.
	They're five times more likely to die in their custody.
	Justice Department's own numbers.
	And there's a new case here.
	A boy in foster care is severely brain damaged.
	And in most news reports, they never mention, but every time I hear about a kid in a cage or a kid starving, I'll hear the media announce, again, 99% of the time, oh, see, foster care needs more funding.
	CPS needs more funding.
	Family services need more funding, and then you go dig deeper into the other stories about it.
	You'll always find it's foster care.
	It's the government.
	So they hurt the children that advertise that it's parents, and then get more money.
	There's no end to their wickedness.
	Greg Pound, tell us all about it.
unidentified		Well, Alex, thank you for having me on again.
		I want to, what it is is that I have our pastor on this program here.
		I have him on the other phone now.
		His name is B.B. Bent.
		He's got a degree in law and government.
		His father for 30 years was with the CIA.
		His son-in-law is over at the embassy, the American embassy in Baghdad.
		His son is in the Intelligence Marine Corps.
		And what happens is, the reason I have him is because I want him to help explain.
		He's been a part of the service of civil government and the service of America.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I didn't know he was on today.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Tell me his name again.
unidentified		B.B. Bent.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Me, me, man.
unidentified		Yeah, and he's also in law school in London.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		That's fine.
		Tell me, tell me exactly.
		I mean, let's get into the current story you said you wanted to come on about.
unidentified		Bro, see, the current story is simple.
		I heard your program here a week ago, and you were talking about, you had someone on there that you were interviewing who said to you that children are going to die.
		And you were pounding him about the issue.
		and then the next day in the paper comes out the issue of this child that was only a year a year and a half old taken from the parents stuck in foster care the foster parents told them, "Listen, we need help.
		We've got too many kids." They're scared.
		They're grabbing so many kids.
		They're sticking them in the foster care places.
		The people can't deal with it.
		They told them to come and get the child.
		These two children that they dropped off said, "Listen, we can't deal with them.
		We need you to take these kids." They left them and they shook the child until the child was brain dead.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, they murder children 24-7 and nothing stops them.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And now they go, John, pull that clip up where the head of CPS says children will die, just the way it is.
unidentified		That's exactly right.
		That was the clip that I heard.
		And so what happens is our case manager, who stole our kids illegally, now B.B. Ben has a degree in law and government.
		And our whole church, we, you know, Alex, we could never deal with the hell that the CPI, Child Protection Investigations, what they're doing to Florida, what they did to our family, trying to break us down.
		We're in Pinellas County, where Terry Schiavo was starved to death, and these people are, they think they can do whatever they want.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		So has Bibi been fighting this?
unidentified		Oh yeah, it's the whole church.
unidentified		Our whole congregation has supported us through this, and once you hear him talk and explain to you, I mean, I mean, and his whole family's involved.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Okay, well I'm gonna hold you over a little bit in the next hour if you can do it since we got you on late.
		And call Jesse Trinidou.
		Tell him I'm gonna get him on 15 after, John.
		Okay, here is the clip.
		Uh, we're only gonna play part of this.
		I can't stand listening to it.
		They snatch the lady's child for some dirty plates.
		We've contacted her and others.
		That's why they were taken.
		The little girl's taken for dirty plates in the house.
		They trick their way in.
		Any dog hair, anything, they're gone.
		And they take them to these filth pits where they're killed.
		Here it is.
unidentified		Whether they're in foster care or whether they're in their own relative's care, children will die.
		Strong words from DHS after the deaths of two children.
		Thanks for choosing Eyewitness News 5 at 5. I'm Maggie Carlo.
		Good evening, everyone.
		I'm Jessica Schambach.
		Two-year-old Sky Dawn Ward died Sunday.
		Tonight, her death and the death of another child over the weekend are raising questions about how DHS keeps kids safe while they're in foster care.
		And Eyewitness News 5's Amanda Garrett joins us now.
		And Amanda, you talked to DHS today, and what they told you, downright shocking.
		Yeah, it was shocking because the DHS A DHS spokesman like you heard told me children will die no matter if it's in their own home or in foster care.
		She was just beautiful, I mean...
		Two-year-old Sky Dawn Ward drowned at this foster home in Chickasha, Sunday.
		It's not the only foster care death over the weekend.
		An Ardmore, 19-month-old Ray Palmer, died when a car backed over him.
		Plus, DHS now faces a lawsuit from a Tulsa family.
		They claim this foster parent, William Hunter Jr., inappropriately touched his foster son.
		So today, we went to DHS, So, do you think something different will have to happen now?
		I don't think so.
		Why not?
		Because children will die, whether they're in foster care or whether they're in their own relative care.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Alright, that's enough of that punk!
		So the point is, they can kill your children five times more likely than any other group.
		Most dangerous place to be.
		They can kill your children all day long, and there's no investigation, no changes.
		They're above the law.
		They are God incarnate.
		The death will continue.
		This was only one Oklahoma town.
		I mean, just deaths every day in Austin.
		Deaths everywhere.
		The murder spree continues.
		The child molesters want a child?
		They go become foster parents?
		And then, and then, and then, and then, uh, The CPS will not investigate because they will not investigate themselves.
		So, the smart pedophiles don't stand outside schoolyards.
		They become foster parents and the raping operation begins.
		Now, again, I'm running on here.
		BB, Ben, you're welcome to comment.
unidentified		Go ahead, Bruce.
unidentified		Bruce? I'm just here in dead air space.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		No, no, you're here.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Go ahead.
unidentified		Go ahead.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Okay, Greg, I think...
unidentified		Uh, Alec?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir, go ahead.
unidentified		Sorry, sir.
		I was just here in dead air.
		I lost it.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		You're on air right now.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Go ahead, Mr. Bent.
unidentified		I want to let your listeners know the things that you've been telling people about what's going on around the country are dead on.
		They're not just happening here in Florida, but it is the program, a federal program, and the monies that are allotted to the states are dependent upon their participation in the program.
		We have documentation to show that the Not only are the federal agencies of the executive department involved, but because of that, the state agencies are involved under the same guise, and that the courts are involved by contract to collect collection agencies for these agencies.
		They actually have signed contracts between the judges and the agencies as collection servants for that.
		The other thing that you mentioned that was so right on is the fact that the majority of this is coming to us Not by our elected officials or the Congress.
		This has been suspended since 1933.
		Our, under emergency powers, all of these things have been stopped.
		Most of our law now comes from executive order, not from our legislature.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And the Family Services, I even have a mainstream media clip today about it from mainstream television.
		It was set up for eugenics and they would sterilize the poor children.
		That's where CPS was founded.
unidentified		Go ahead.
		And you're absolutely right.
		Those things are very, very much a present part of everyday reality for so many thousands of families now across the country.
		And a lot of it is, as you said, in Florida specifically, because that's where we live and what we're dealing with every day, these things are done without the benefit of trial.
		They're done behind the closed doors of a judge's chambers.
		And a judge who is appointed over that specific area of law Children have less rights than Taliban at Camp X,
		right? In protecting the home and so forth, which is supposed to be, and is said legislatively to be the intent of the department, is to protect and hold the family together.
		And that the only time that the children are to be taken from the family is if in fact a crime has been committed.
		And the probable cause statute in the state of Florida for hearing for taking custody of children is based upon the fact that there has to be the probable cause standard for an arrest warrant.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		But all of that is ignored system-wide in a racketeering conspiracy for federal funds on headhunting.
		There are bounties on all your children.
		These are commanded by pedophile rings.
		It's been in the Florida news that every director of the CPS, but for the last six years, it turns out is a pedophile.
		Don't believe me?
		Check it out.
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alex jones ▲ ● ▼		What would a slay dog do?
		Up in the north country in northern Canada, it was tied up outside in the morning in its doghouse and a grizzly bear or a polar bear came walking in.
		He'd bark.
		And I try to control myself.
		I want the listeners to know when I start frothing on this subject, because it really upsets me.
		It threatens me at a base level.
		Hurts my spirit.
		Because I know, I've seen it.
		I've been there when they're snatching the babies for no reason.
		I've seen the people crying.
		I've seen the pain.
		I've seen the pedophile cops.
		They have special cops they use.
		Smile with pleasure.
unidentified		Big fat nelly pieces of trash.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Maggot suckers.
		Just pit of hell demons.
		I've seen the CPS people waddling around.
		They're all the same.
		Demons of hell.
		Literal scum filth.
		Just unimaginable.
		And everything I'm telling you is true, folks.
		They're just grabbing, grabbing over a million children a year with wanton abandon.
		Always advertising the worst cases with parents to demonize parents.
		It's all part of eugenics.
		I'm going to hold you guys 15 minutes over the next hour.
		You were getting BB Bent, who our guest Greg Pound, who had his children kidnapped years ago for no reason.
		It was the neighbor's dog bit the child, and they take your child for that.
		They really hate Christians.
		Uh, Greg Pound, uh, I thought that Pound was coming on about this, um, this local Florida case of the child dying.
		I mean, it's always, or the child being brain damaged, or children dying.
		So I think it's important to personalize these stories, but yes, Mr. Bent, uh, getting into how there is no Bill of Rights or Constitution for families and children.
		Go ahead.
unidentified		Well, that's the thing, that, uh, once, once these things have been removed, we have no way to safeguard.
		Um, in Florida, even though our Constitution mandates the right to trial by jury, right to trial by jury is denied.
		And even though, and our Constitution here is even higher than the federal Constitution, which says that it shall be irrevocable and, um, in all cases you have the right to trial by jury.
		But they sequester it into a private audience before a judge who just rubber stamps.
		With Greg's case particularly, Uh, at the shelter hearing, they would not, the judge would not allow any testimony to be made on behalf of he or his family.
		We were there sworn to testify, and the judge would not hear any testimony, and said, I find probable cause.
		Bam. That's the end of it.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And let's be clear, let's be clear.
		These are police officers posing as officers.
		These are CPS posing.
		The judge is posing.
		They're all illegally, in a money deal, sworn Absolutely true.
unidentified		When we look, when we think about the fact that these individuals, and most of them, and I don't know that they're all malevolent in themselves from the beginning, but a lot of them go into these things with good intentions and then they realize that their job is dependent upon getting more clients.
unidentified		If they don't, if they want to get promoted, they've got to get a supervisor, a physician, they've got to get people working under them.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Now let me stop you, I've got the statistics.
		You can pull these up, about 55% of CPS workers, it has the worst government rollover of any industry, of any sector of government, 50% quit because they're the good people who won't go, within one year.
		So they have the highest turnover, and then all you get left with is mercenaries that just want the money and pedophiles that want to rape the children.
		Go ahead.
unidentified		That's exactly right.
		You're left with people who are doing it because that's how they make their living.
		And this is not serving families.
		This is not holding families together.
		This is destroying families, right and left.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		It's armed pedophile mercenary forces ruling.
unidentified		That's exactly right.
		There's no way to guard against it without a return to the fact of holding a people accountability to their oath.
		These people are supposed to be sworn servants of the people who are there to do only those things which they're allowed to do under the Constitution, the powers that we grant to them.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Now stay there.
		Back in 70 seconds.
		Look. I've got two mainstream news clips I saw last night where they're having to pay eugenics reparations out of Health and Human Services.
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tom brokaw ▲ ● ▼		A day unlike any other in the long course of American history.
tom brokaw ▲ ● ▼		A terrorist act of war against this country.
unidentified		The enemy struck America on September 11th.
		But who is the enemy?
		Bin Laden.
		This is his M.O. We have to look to the Middle East.
		We have to look to Osama Bin Laden.
		Fabled Enemies is the first 9-11 film to take a close look at the terrorist ties to intelligence networks inside the United States.
brit hume ▲ ● ▼		Some U.S. investigators believe that there are Israelis again very much engaged in spying in and on the U.S. I'm aware that some Israeli citizens have been detained.
unidentified		Bin Laden's connections to the CIA, the hijackers'ties to the FBI, the Saudi Arabian connection, the Israeli Intelligence Network, Warnings and War Games, the Shadow Government, and much, much more.
		Either you are with us or you are with the terrorists.
		Thank you.
		I'll do it now.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I'm serving on in 15 minutes.
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		Big Brother.
		Mainstream media.
		Government cover-ups.
		You want answers?
		Well, so does he.
		He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
		And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Study Health and Human Services.
		It was set up in England about 120 years ago.
		Brought to the United States in 1900.
		By 1934, it was law in 30-plus states, that if you made below an A-plus, or A-minus, depending on the state, they would take you and castrate you.
		They wouldn't just cut your tubes.
unidentified		Uh, and, um...
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I mean, there's hundreds of news reports on this.
		500,000 plus women just in the 80s.
		It was supposedly stopped in 87. 500,000 women just in the 80s were sterilized by Health and Human Services at the state level under federal grants.
		Millions. The records were destroyed by the federal government from the 30s and 40s and Hitler made it look bad.
		And I've got the state testifying here that, yeah, we put two-thirds of the kids on drugs.
		Because they got bad gene pools.
		See, they're killing the evil.
		They're eugenicists.
		They're just people that want to steal children for the money.
		Mercenaries. You know, you see them.
		They're driving around in Lexuses and living in $400,000 houses.
		They get bonuses.
		Some of these CPS workers are making a half mil a year.
		But it's the private adoption agencies that are really raking in the cash.
		The judges.
		It's just pure evil, folks.
		It's always the same with these folks, the way they look, the way they act.
		It's a class of people.
		Then you have the pedophiles.
		Then you have a lot of mentally ill people whose parents beat them, and they're out hating parents, hating families.
		They're eugenicists.
		They're on a power trip.
		So you also have mentally ill people.
		That's the three groups.
		And that's it.
		That's all there is in it.
		But, you know, B.B. Bent, we're gonna get back to you here in just a minute.
		I wanted to play Part 1. We'll play Part 2 after we talk to Bent and Pound and others.
		But here's Part 1 where they're announcing on a newscast last night.
		Oh hey, the government's going to pay out money to those sterilized.
		Here it is.
unidentified		The committee will ask the legislature to enact their recommendations come July of next year.
		The final draft will be approved December 18th and from there it will go before lawmakers.
		If you or anyone you know may have been a victim of the eugenics sterilization program, you can contact the Department of Health and Human Services at At 800-662-7030.
		More information on the Eugenics Serialization Program can be found on our website, News14.com.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		You know, let's go ahead and play Part 2 and then come back to Mr. Pound and Mr. Bent.
		I didn't know we were going to have Mr. Bent on.
		Sounds interesting fellow.
		I'd like to have him back on about due process another time.
		But we'll talk to him coming up in the next segment until the 20 after.
unidentified		about here's a part two with the poor folks that had their testicles cut off in twenty nine until nineteen seventy four about seven thousand six hundred women and men and children By the way, back it up.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		That was just in their county.
		This is just one little local newscast.
		They're murdering your children right now.
		Okay, it's in mainstream news.
		They take them and give them pesticide until they die in drug tests.
		I mean, these people, the evil level.
		Oh, source on that?
		New York Daily News.
		Keep rolling it.
unidentified		...
		were robbed of the chance to reproduce under the then Department of Welfare, our modern-day social services.
		They used the fancy name eugenics, but it was sterilizing.
		And they used such things as excuses that they were promiscuous, or either that they were feeble-minded.
		Or either that they would not be a contributing member in a positive way to the society of North Carolina.
		Representative Larry Womble heads a committee reviewing government compensation for victims of the eugenic sterilization program.
		North Carolina used the ones who were on the welfare rolls.
		And as a result of you being on the welfare rolls, if you had a child, then they would come and threaten to take your benefits away from you.
		If you did not participate in the state's sterilization program.
		And so, many people agreed.
		But the majority were not willing.
		75-year-old Willis Lynch was one of them.
		He had the procedure at 14. Well, I didn't know what was going on.
		In many families, the bloodline has stopped.
		There are no more people that can be born in that family.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Okay, now they target Christians and homeschoolers.
		And you have degenerate pedophiles kidnap you, no due process, and then most of the time they end up murdering your children.
		Hello, friends.
		This is Alex Jones.
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		Our elected representatives wanted a good old boy bailout for the special interest, so they ignored your screams not to do it.
		They turned off the telephones and email.
		They voted to print $850 billion at least.
		Out of thin air, this money now owns the American and European banks.
		The exploding inflation that is now guaranteed will slash your life savings to nothing and blast the cost of necessities, particularly food, beyond many Americans' reach.
		In pre-Nazi Germany's superinflation, the cost of a loaf of bread doubled every two days, until it reached over 4 billion marks.
		Food prices are skyrocketing so fast, there seems as if there may be no end in sight.
		The private banks merging with our government are refusing to loan grocery stores enough money to restock their stores.
		stores have less food but jack up prices to stay in business whatever happens in america we need to be prepared and be ready everything is zeroing in on food one-third of americans have to choose between buying food and paying for other necessities my friends whatever it takes get prepared get self-sufficient get food for everybody out there listening it's very important for you to understand that by having a supply of storable food the government the new world order has a lot less control over you and so it's a mindset a mindset of self-sufficiency and preparedness no one is
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unidentified		He's the T-Rex of political talk.
unidentified		Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		We're going to go live in about 15 minutes at presentplanet.tv with Jesse Trinity, part two of the interview from last week, live.
		Again, ladies and gentlemen, this is eugenics.
		And it's a minority of children that end up dying.
		A huge percentage end up being maimed.
		Over two-thirds put on deadly, toxic drugs.
		On average, seven in Texas.
		Seven drugs in Texas.
		W-O-A-I investigation two years ago.
		Seven drugs on average.
		Totally healthy.
		And, uh, but the majority of the kids end up dying that they get.
		The majority don't end up dying.
		The minority end up dying.
		But the majority that do end up dying, to be precise, For some reason are black or they're Christian homeschooling whites.
		They leave a lot of the Mexicans alone because Mexicans are real human beings.
		They haven't been dehumanized and turned into American slaves.
		They will run with their children.
		Their children come first, so I salute them.
		I've seen all the statistics.
		Look, B.B. Bent, Mr. Pouncey.
		I go off on a jag here because of this subject.
		You know, people ask why I get so mad at the police and the whole system.
		I'm not saying all police and the whole government's bad, but They don't stop it.
		Where are the police protesting?
		Where are they saying no?
		They don't want to be involved in all this.
		Where are they?
		The system is evil, and I've had enough of it.
		Go ahead, B.B. Bent and Greg Pound.
		You guys talk about whatever you want for the balance of this segment.
unidentified		Alex, you're absolutely right.
		The thing that, if we've got to have people who will take a stand and say, you know, when I become a government servant, I take an oath to uphold and defend the Constitution.
		It's not just the Supreme Court.
		It's every person who goes into government at whatever level, not just federal government, but any person who goes into government at whatever level has an obligation to uphold and defend the Constitution.
		That means they're not to exceed their authority.
		That means they're not to go into areas where powers have not been granted.
		That means that they're not supposed to do these things for money.
		They're supposed to be representatives of the people and have no power greater than the individual.
		Our Constitution in the state of Florida opens up by saying, All political power is inherent in the people.
		That means anybody in government does not have any greater power than any private citizen, because they can't have power that we didn't give them.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		But by force of arms, they carry the day.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And by false authority.
unidentified		Yeah, but it's only because we've been dumbed down to think that we don't have the right to keep and bear arms.
		We not only have the right, we have the responsibility to see to it that we uphold and defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign or domestic.
		And this means that's where our protection is for limited government.
		But even further than that, it doesn't mean we're lawless.
		It doesn't mean we're to go into anarchy.
		It means just the other way around.
		That the people were supreme, the people were sovereign, and that the law, once we had, as you brought out...
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		They're going to hold their government responsible, or they are going to abolish it and create new forms.
		And it is our responsibility, and again, I'll say to everybody in the CIA, the FBI, police, bureaucrats, all of you, you know this stuff's going on.
		You know I'm telling the truth.
		You know, so let me tell you something.
		You either join us in, just like George Bush said, but it's actually true.
		It's just that he was the terrorist, so it was a reverse double entendre.
		The point is, you either join us and actively fight this, or you are giving sanction to all of it.
		And I beg you to search your heart and to join us in the fight against the New World Order.
		Go ahead.
unidentified		Thank you Alex, man.
		That needs to be said over and over and over again to so many people.
		Because a lot of people feel like they don't have the ability to stand up.
		They don't have the ability to be counted.
		And every one of us every day makes choices that have to do with that.
		And if you don't stand up and be counted, then you're one of them.
		And the they that we talk about is me for everybody but me.
		And so I have to realize that I have to hold myself accountable.
		Every day, and everybody else who worked in a position where we are the sovereigns in this country, or we're under tyranny.
		There is no other choice.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		So tell us some of the horror stories that are going on there in Florida, and some of the latest deaths and injuries.
unidentified		One of the things, you know, and Greg has brought out the fact, and you've brought out the fact already, that his family, he lost four children.
unidentified		He and his wife, and that's been more than four years ago.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And the CPS workers did it and lost their job, but they won't give the children back because they say, oh, we can't hurt the families that have your children now.
		What about the biological parents?
		And the children were old when they got grabbed.
unidentified		Absolutely. And the thing of it is, and this woman who just recently, this is a grandmother that you opened up the program with.
		This is a grandmother.
		Who wanted to take care of the kids, even though her grandchildren, even though there were problems within the family.
		The whole idea of the agency was set up to support the family in holding themselves together.
		To make the necessary food and medical care.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		But they didn't.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Instead of grandma getting the children, who got them?
unidentified		The state got them.
		And now that child is in a vegetative state.
		Not because of the grandmother.
		Not because of any abuse.
		Because of the abuse brought upon by the state.
		And this has been one case right after another.
		They take children and they say that these children are underweight, but the standard that they use to measure against, the American Medical Association has already mentioned, is based on obesity.
		They say these children are underweight.
		These kids were raised on health food.
		These kids were raised like that.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		That's the new thing.
		They're grabbing organic folks' children.
		I've seen that hundreds of times.
		And these are healthy, radionized children.
		And they say if the child isn't obese, then they've got to take them.
		But then they reverse that.
		They're also taking children now who are obese.
		So they're, again, no reason, they just take them.
unidentified		And that's because there's no standard.
		Child abuse, abandonment and neglect under Chapter 39 in the Florida Statutes, under the DCF Department Statutes, Is the fact that there's no definition.
		It's not, they're not holding to the criminal standard for abuse, abandonment, neglect.
		They go with a standard that is totally nebulous.
		From letting your children watch too much children to not letting them watch children.
		From you picking their friends to not...
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And where is they hold parents to this maximum standard of a dirty plate Yeah, and that's the problem.
unidentified		Because most of our laws now exempt government from the very standards that they hold the people to.
unidentified		If you look at building code statutes and other ones, you'll walk in there and look at the exemptions You'll find that the agency has exempted themselves from the same standard.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Government is now God, and this is a perfect atmosphere for the worst elements to then migrate into government and perfect a tyranny, which is now happening.
unidentified		That's exactly right.
		Our founding fathers did not hold us, they held our government accountable to a higher standard.
		The law of nature and of nature's God.
		And they said, that's why when America had our revolution, it wasn't like the French Revolution.
		We had an absolute law on which we could hold people accountable and we held ourselves accountable.
		And we held the King accountable.
		We separated from the King of England because he was no longer obedient to those laws.
		And we've come to a point where King George and King Bill and the others have done the same thing.
		We're no longer holding them accountable to a higher law that says once you violate those standards you start abusing the family You start redefining family.
		You start taking and splitting people up and so forth.
		That's where they're supposed to honor the proper authority of father and mother and hold the family together.
		Hold marriage sacred.
		Hold these things that we held accountable.
		And that's why we had our inalienable rights didn't come from nowhere.
		They came from the Almighty.
		And we knew what those rights were because he defined them in his law.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely, but bottom line here is they set up for eugenics in the 20s, in the 1890s in England, 1920s here, a little bit earlier, and I have the newsreels where they would kill the babies.
		They'd come, take your baby, and kill it.
		You know, let it die.
		They'd set it out for a few days in a freezing cold room.
		That's what America does, and so that's who founded CPS, as you just heard the local newscast earlier.
		And so, it's all going on right now.
		They are not the moral authority.
		They don't follow the Bill of Rights Constitution.
		The Guantanamo Bay people have more rights than they do.
		I'd love to have you back on sometime, B.B. Mint, when I know.
		I didn't know you were coming on today, but I'm glad Greg Pound had you on with him.
		In closing, give out your website, Greg, and, you know, tell folks, I mean, because you spend all your time studying this.
		Literally, the magnitude of the death and destruction we're dealing with.
unidentified		Okay, Alex, it's FreeOurKids.com.
		Free, R-O-U-R, FreeOurKids.com.
		It's real simple.
		FreeOurKids.com.
		My phone number's on there.
		I'm back in the appeals court, and in January, the appeal court's going to hear the case again.
		This is four years.
		I'm asking your listeners that pray, please pray, that we get our kids back.
		We haven't done anything.
		We don't smoke, drink, do drugs.
		We've never abused our kids.
		We want our children back.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And the neighbor...
unidentified		Our children.
unidentified		We haven't done anything.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		The neighbor dog bit one of them and it's all over.
unidentified		We want our children back.
		We haven't done anything.
		Our court won't even give us a hearing.
		We can't even present evidence in the courtroom.
		We can't get our trial by jury.
		And these people won't give us our kids back.
		And we want our babies back.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, I also ask, and people don't believe in this because they're foolish, in the preparatory prayers.
		Folks, I'm not somebody who runs around thumping the Bible.
		I believe it, and I know it to be true, and I've seen it work, and if it's what God wants, I just pray God start, not us, not us committing violence to them, I just pray God gets these people right.
		Whatever it takes for these CPS workers, these CPS directors, these people over Health and Human Services at the state level, I pray God give them seven times what they've done now.
		In fact, I'm just asking the creator of the universe to destroy this trash and to bring them down.
		I mean, if they'll repent right now, right now, then that's the case.
		And I know it's real.
		These people are getting wiped out everywhere.
		Car wrecks, cancer, everything else.
		I just pray that God strike these devils down right now.
unidentified		I say amen to that.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely. Look, God bless you both gentlemen.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
unidentified		Thank you so much.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, we'll talk to you soon.
		I'm going to come back with Jesse Trinidad.
		You know, that's all we do on this show.
		We had a guest on yesterday fighting aspartame, killing millions.
		We had another guest on fighting GMO, guest on fighting for other people's having their children taken, guest on exposing murders.
		That's all we do here is expose the evil and try to get the people motivated and moving against this corruption.
		That's all we do is try to enlighten and inform the public.
		The whole show yesterday was about the history of the militias, the armed citizens, the founding fathers, what this country was born out of.
		That is the solution.
		And you know what?
		I do believe in divine providence.
		And, you know, the 50 million abortions we've had, all of it.
		If the people will stand up and ask God to use them as vessels against evil, God will use you.
		And if you hit your knees and repent, you will be forgiven as well.
		We'll be right back.
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unidentified		The enemy struck America on September 11th.
		But who is the enemy?
		Bin Laden.
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		We have to look to the Middle East.
		We have to look to Osama Bin Laden.
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alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Alright, it's an important historical event.

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