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With an abbreviated radio show.
Okay, he was on with us about three weeks ago, and it was only for an hour, and so I wanted to get him up for two hours to talk about the nature of reality, the International Banking Syndicate, the Crime Syndicate, engineering the collapse that he and others detailed To a great extent.
David Icke will be with us in the third and fourth hour today.
He'll be with us coming up at one o'clock Central Standard Time.
He is in California.
Just finished two big events, or actually three big events that he had out there.
So he will be with us coming up in the third and fourth hour today on this October 6th.
2008 edition.
I don't have to tell you that the markets are in absolute free fall going down to 10,000 points today.
If you listen to the radio shows we did last Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, and Sunday, we stated that of course the markets are going to plunge.
That's the whole point.
They needed to get the immunity For the crimes of the international banks, the brokerage houses that carried out the Ponzi scheme with the fake liquidity that they're going to leave us holding the bag with.
In the provision, it makes the Federal Reserve dictatorial through the Secretary of the Treasury, the private Federal Reserve.
It allows them to seize any homes they want, revalue mortgages up or down.
It allows them carbon taxes of all different types.
It allows them to hand Your tax money over to foreign corporations and none of it can be second-guessed or even reviewed.
It states that clearly.
It says at the discretion of the Treasury Secretary, he can create a flim-flam group chaired by himself to push recommendations and propaganda.
And so global markets are headed straight down right now.
The stock market plunging and just unprecedented.
Last week when the public One, not to go along with it, the establishment reacted by savagely, savagely attacking the market and driving it down 1.2 trillion.
Well, they've just outdone that today.
The market is down 400, 400, 443.55, 443.55, and plunging fast.
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For the next hour and 52 minutes, we're joined by David Icke, who is in the United States of California.
He had several events with more than 2,000 people showing up to just one of them.
And we have the same type thing happen.
We have an event, 1,200, 2,000 show up.
It is just incredible.
And this is only being done through the alternative media.
So while we see the stock market plunging uh... six hundred plus points today after the bankers got their empowerment immunity takeover bill Understand, at least the good news is thousands to one, according to members of Congress, phone calls against it last week, even after the White House said, depression, depression, and then didn't have the Plunge Protection Team prop up the market last Monday when it went down over a trillion dollars.
Well, the same thing's happened today, after the bankers got their power, because this is part of a consolidation.
And David Eisenhower talked about that, he's been writing about that for Plus 20 years, how the main power of the New World Order in the physical realm is their banking fraud, their fractional reserve system.
But I want to first talk, the man who needs no introduction, about the incredibly positive thing.
Because as the enemy moves against us, as they try to destroy the middle class and slave the people so they've got to go to the government for their food, So that there can be a financial collapse, riots in the streets, so they can use the military on us as they're now announcing in mainstream news to be the saviors, so we accept a militarized banana boat economy.
The positive news that, this isn't hype when I say it, there is an awakening so huge it dwarfs anything a month ago, or anything a year ago.
It is exponential.
Here's an example.
We call up Chuck Norris to come on the show.
Never tried.
He goes, oh, I'm a huge fan.
I listen all the time.
I want to come on.
He comes on, endorses Ron Paul, moves away from the neocons, and says on air he agrees with everything I'm talking about.
I mean, again, Bruce Willis.
goes public and says I'm no longer a neocon, I know there's a new world order, a false reality.
They're losing all their main icons.
On the left, the left is waking up and breaking the paradigm and breaking the controlled tiny box reality and seeing the wider universe around them.
So there is a consciousness shift in information analysis and it is the hundredth monkey.
There is a group consciousness.
It is It is spreading.
It is happening.
It is a mass awareness.
And it is beautiful.
And so out of this adversity, it's going to get bad.
We're going to be tested.
Realize that this is evil trying to maintain control.
David Icke, after a very successful tour, which thousands and thousands came out to see in California, we welcome you to the airwaves.
Let's break down the shift, what's happening, the positive, and then get into your analysis on the banking global takeover, then we'll get into the nature of reality itself.
Well, the thing is, Alex, that I've been a kind of barometer of this because I've been doing it for so long, and when I started talking about these things in Britain in the early 1990s, well, it was just extraordinary the scale of uh... abuse and uh... and ridicule that came my way but as the years have passed uh... died gradually change.
And then since 9-11, and another shift after the invasion of Iraq, I've seen it explode.
And what we're seeing now is something I talked about a long time ago.
When something is covertly manipulating along a road to change society in a certain way, there comes a point where it has to break the surface where it can be seen, because what it wants to change starts to happen in front of people's eyes.
And this, and what we're talking about today with the finance and everything, is putting in the face of people what they have, and I understand why, what they have tried so hard to deny was reality.
And therefore, they're finding it more and more difficult to look the other way and say, no, no, let's change the subject.
And all this together, and there's a consciousness awakening as well very clearly, People are waking up and expanding their consciousness on a scale never before in a time that I've known anyway.
And together it's bringing people to a state of awareness where they are seeing What is actually happening now?
We need to go to the next stage now.
People are coming out listening to this information in vast numbers.
They're listening to programs like yours in vast numbers.
What we need to do now is start to get together, drop the fault lines between left and right and center and progressives and all this other stuff and religion and all the rest of it and come together and cross the street and start engaging with this system.
And by engaging, ironically, I mean Disengaging with it, ceasing to allow it to enslave us, ceasing to cooperate with our own enslavement, because as I talked about last time I was on the show, there are six billion people plus now being manipulated.
There is, at the core, a relative handful doing the manipulating.
I see a way out of this, but we have to come together, and it's starting, and I'm extremely optimistic, because now we're in this window of time where The problem is they're blatantly in front of us.
The game is more and more blatantly in front of us, and that is engaging and focusing people to the understanding that doing nothing is no longer an option.
And they only are able to control us by us ourselves, keeping ourselves in that box, in self-regulating to where we're afraid to speak up, or afraid to talk to neighbors, and so we just go and watch the television.
But again, that is starting to break up.
That is starting to shift, and it's so beautiful to see.
Before we get into the larger shifts in society and how there's only probably less than a hundred global masterminds, a few thousand technicians under them who really get the full structure of the New World Order, there are tens of millions worldwide who have organically reverse-engineered what they're doing to a stunning level.
We're able to predict what they're going to do.
And that's really starting to threaten them, and that's why they're talking about bringing in total dictatorial martial law to try to suppress it.
I see that act of desperation as a huge failure.
But let's get into the economics first, and break down what we're seeing with the banker takeover, how they're proposing a world banking system out of the crisis they created.
I've been so focused on everything that I've been traveling and moving constantly for about 10 days, two weeks, but I have heard the idea that this banking crisis is like bad for the bankers and is not what they wanted.
We've got to understand a few things.
First of all, the people who are manipulating the banking system do not own just the banks.
They own the game.
They own the system.
Now, if you own football, it doesn't matter if one team beats another team or another team beats the other team, because you own the game.
You can't lose.
So, just because Merrill Lynch is absorbed by the Bank of America or this bank that goes down and its clientele is taken over by this bank.
It doesn't matter because the names on the doors are changing, the masks on the face are changing, but you own the game!
And if you own the game, you can manipulate the game because you're controlling the rules of the game.
So what we're looking at is And this has been long predicted, and this is one of the real powerful things, Alex, at this time.
And why it was so important to get this information out about the game and how it's played and what the goals are over the years gone by, because that gives credibility when people look at it and say, hold on a second, this was predicted, this is not just happening now.
And this really does start to take power from Uh, the way they manipulate, giving us the impression that, oh no, this is just a problem that's just come out of nothing.
For a centralization of power in every area of our lives and every area of global society including politics, business and all the rest of it.
Now crucial to that is banking.
They want a world central bank that dictates to the whole of the global financial system, the whole of the global banking industry and their families are going to control that.
That's the idea.
Diversity is the worst nightmare of the dictator.
You look at any tyranny, if you want to centralize power, it's no good having lots and lots of points of decision-making and diversity of decision-making because you can't centrally control that.
And just look at the way society's gone through the centuries.
It's exactly the same way.
Centralization of power constantly.
Because you can only control from the center in the hands of a few if your center holds the power that affects vast numbers of people eventually everyone as they plan so the more and more diversity there is in the banking system Alex the less power you're going to have over it because there are going to be banks and Financial systems that you're not going to control to the extent that you want you want to take them out
you want to centralize a Power you want to remove as much as you can the number of names the number of the amount of diversity And that's why the high-level private central banks that are not your regular Main Street banks issued over a thousand trillion liquidity to other banks and institutions and changed the rules so they could sell derivatives and get into all this fraud because now the elite above get to orchestrate the consolidation.
They get to send down the regulators.
They get to send the tax money to the central small inner sanctum or coterie of banks so that they can manipulate the consolidation.
And in the IMF and World Bank documents, in their own statements, in what Kissinger said last week, what was in the Wall Street Journal, Financial Times of London, they all are saying that.
The Financial Times of London said, actually, this is good for a few megabanks, and they're the ones that changed the rules.
Meanwhile, you have all these people in alternative media running around saying, oh no, it's an accident.
It's an accident.
It's key for the establishment, the controllers, to sell that lie, so they don't get the blame for what they've orchestrated, so they can play the part of the savior, setting up the World Banking Cartel, which we buy carbon credits from, which are a tax on human breathing, Not all the real environmental problems we have so they can regulate our everyday life with carbon checkpoints and carbon audits of our homes and bureaucracy and one-child policy.
People, and I understand why, because that's what they're led to believe, they see private banks and they see the central banks in the different countries as but the same families control both sides.
Now, this is the game.
They control the game.
So, whether private banks go out of business or not in this crash and crisis that's going on, they control the central banks.
They will control, if we allow them to do it, the World Central Bank, and therefore they will control the system.
The names will be different, but the system will be controlled by them.
I want you to be able to finish that point when we come back.
Stay with us.
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The key here is that the unprecedented action out of the open of the president...
All the major leaders of the two parties, the Treasury Secretary is saying, there's going to be a depression, financial abyss, you've got to pass this Banker Bailout Bill.
And you read the bill, immunity, unlimited power, they can do whatever they want, commit basically any financial crime they want, and it doesn't say $850 billion, doesn't say $700 billion, it says $5 trillion, if you really read the fine print, as Bloomberg Financial and others reported.
So they are the ones terrorizing the market to plunge.
Then they forced through the bill, and last Friday we had the congressman on.
It was on C-SPAN.
They were threatened with physical martial law, David.
I know you've been traveling, you may not know this.
We can play the clip if you want to hear it.
They were threatened with martial law if they didn't pass it.
Now CNN, BBC, Army Times are reporting the Army is to be used during riots.
But again, problem, reaction, solution.
They implode the economy, the welfare checks stop going out, things break down, there's riots, the military saves us, the precedent is set.
So just amazing how they're right out in the open doing all of this, David.
Yeah, because we've reached that point, Alex, where it has to break the surface to become the changes in society that they've been working covertly for for so long.
This is the key, in terms of America, for what's happening on so many levels, in my opinion anyway, and I've been writing this for years.
And what I said was that they're going to use America, or are using America, to destroy America.
Why?
Because they want a world government A world government cannot possibly have total global power while there's any superpower with massive military and financial might that has, through that, the ability to say to the world government, excuse me, we're not doing that, we're not accepting what you're dictating and telling us to do.
So what they've been doing, and it's been so blatant to me, is that they are using America to destroy America.
First of all, militarily.
They're stretching America all over the place militarily and weakening them on that level.
And now they're attacking the American economy on a massive scale.
And this trillion, as you rightly say, basically open checkbook, so-called bailout, is not designed to solve the crisis.
It's designed to further Massively undermine the American economy and American financial security.
And who's holding this debt now?
Goodness knows how much more debt that's coming in.
And the debt that's already owed by America.
Not that it is debt, it's money that doesn't exist.
It's a scam.
But people like China are holding massive amounts of this.
And I found it very interesting, you know, that Henry Paulson as chairman and CEO of Goldman Sachs, which was massively involved in this subprime scam, then becomes Treasury Secretary.
He has apparently made at least 100 visits to China discussing financial matters with the Chinese authorities.
And here's China picking up more and more of this debt.
I was warned ages ago by various insiders, watch for the time when China becomes a big economic and military power, because that's when...
You're going to see the action start.
And what happens when China says, hold on a second, we own we all hold all this debt.
Therefore, you know, you're not paying us back.
You get any more and more trouble.
We want the assets, please, for the debt that we hold.
Then you've got potential for conflict between the two.
And I was told a long time ago that It's leading to a conflict involving China, the third world war, to bring in finally this whole structure of world government, world central bank, world army, microchip population, world currency, and all the rest of it.
So all these things are moving as one unit.
They appear to be, to most people, unconnected.
As you look at the invasion of Iraq, and Afghanistan, and the finances, all moved by one flow of energy.
That was also meant to demonize the name of the U.S., to put the sins of the new world order on the U.S., like they used the Soviets previously to carry out their dirty work.
They also need a global economic crisis that can be blamed on America to set up their world government.
And now, all over the financial papers the last two weeks, they propose the private banks becoming the world government.
I was reading a piece when I was traveling about the head of the IMF saying that the IMF should become the central coordinating, basically, police force for the global banking system.
There's the open suggestion now of this world central bank that we've been talking about for so long.
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instead of the state's getting rid of some of the three million police all the welfare all the largest to get people that have to get all the spending in the millions per major city billions per city New York's had five billion in cameras put in the last four years.
Boston in one year had two billion dollars worth of cameras put in.
Homeland Security's now announced all those free federal traffic cameras, they were DARPA designed by the Pentagon to watch you.
They're scanning your faces.
Now, instead of doing any of that, they are saying they're going to bail out all the states.
$7 billion for California, $5 billion for Florida.
They're going to, quote, bail out select crony corporations owned by the same private central banks.
The stock market's down by 700-plus points right now, and plunging, dwarfing what happened last Monday.
They promised you if you submitted and gave them unlimited power, they'd be nice to you.
And now there's debates on talk radio and TV about, did they say the bailout would do that?
Or are people making that up?
They know the public doesn't have a memory for last week, or does the public?
David, I want to finish up with the economy and get into the nature of reality, but there seems to be a shocking of the conscious.
And I've seen that in some psychological tests they've done at major universities studying rodent psychology, which is very similar to human group psychology, in these controlled mazes.
Shocking, yelling, noise, heat, cold on rats, till they finally just go into a catatonic state and shake in the corner.
And, you know, having CBS News come out and say, Mercury is good for your brain, taking mercury shots helps your brain cells.
Now, that's an actual newscast.
I've played it 50 times.
I'm not going to play it today, but if you want, I'll play it.
Or, I've got MSNBC saying, actually, poison in food is good for China.
We need poison in the food.
And then tens of thousands, just finishing up this statement, tens of thousands get sick from melamine on purpose in the milk because it shows on a protein test, if somebody tested that it has high protein, and then it turns out it's in a bunch of food lines here in the U.S.
where most of the food additives and drugs get made for the U.S.
and now in China, same for Europe, and they admit it's killing hundreds of Chinese that drank too much and it attacks your kidneys, gives you cancer, and the FDA comes out yesterday and says, actually, it's good for you.
So it seems like they're almost lying to be caught, as you said, to surface and shock everyone into just kind of submitting.
We've been talking about with the food additives and stuff when we get into the nature of reality and the way it's manipulated.
In terms of the laboratory mouse or the laboratory rat, in my talks I do a section about that.
And it's very clear.
When you put it all together, Alex, when you put all the shocks, all the constant instructions, all the do's and don'ts, All the punishments for increasingly fine detail little things like I talked about last time, people being fined in Britain for feeding the birds, people being fined for putting a card in their car saying it's for sale when it's their own car.
What it is like is exactly like the laboratory rat because of course when you Uh, when they're doing those experiments, um, when the rat goes down certain channels, it gets the shock.
After a few shocks, it doesn't go down that channel anymore, and you can take the shock equipment away, it still won't go down that channel, because it's been programmed not to do that by, by the carrot and the stick.
It's okay going down this one, we'll leave you alone.
Go down that one, there's a problem.
Now, take this on a mass scale.
all the things that are being thrown at us.
And that's what they're doing.
They are manipulating so many shocks on the mind, creating so many fears, so many traumas that we become subservient.
And this, and basically anything for a quiet life, yes, sir, no, sir, just save me.
In England and the U.S., if an adult is at the park, and I, you know, when I was single, went for walks at the park all the time, or jogs, the police come over and ask, are you a pedophile?
I mean, how bizarre.
Or, um, Steve Watson, Out for a date in London, they come over and put him in a terror database.
Clean cut, nice looking guy, with a master's degree in political science, with a great looking girlfriend.
Everybody I know in England has had this happen to them.
It happened to me when I was there, where they put me in a terror database.
It's something that is very important for people to appreciate, that we've been bombarded with shocks on purpose so that we will become subservient and we will give our power away.
And I'll tell you a wonderful example, which really was encapsulated in one headline.
When the tasers started coming out, when we started giving out, I'm not saying all police are like this.
Yeah, I've met a few policemen who, if they had a brain cell, it would die of loneliness.
And we're giving these people 55,000 volts of electricity to shoot at people.
Now, there was an article in the newspaper which was looking at this when they first came in, and the headline encapsulated exactly what we're talking about here.
But what we mustn't do, and when we get into the nature of reality and the true nature of who we are, as opposed to the false identity we've been sold from cradle to grave, Then you lose the fear, and you lose this subservience.
You know, someone with an expanded consciousness, who looks in the mirror and realizes that what they're looking at is what they're experiencing, not who they are, they don't fall for this stuff.
Once you realize you are in a hypnotic state with your literal brainwaves from the television, the average American now, the average Brit, they've done studies, we've posted them on InfoWars.com and PrisonPlanet.com.
I've also seen them on DavidIke.com.
That people are now in a lower brainwave state than they were just 30-40 years ago.
Yeah, well when you start to look at what reality is, then this conspiracy takes on a whole new depth, and indeed you get closer and closer to the foundations of it, because the foundations of it, it plays out as banking scams, it plays out as political scams, it plays out as engineered wars, all of which are absolutely vital for us to know about, because you can't cease to be a slave until you realize you are one and what the game is, so that's vital information.
But alongside that, We need to understand not just what the prison looks like, but how we open the door and indeed stop the door finally slamming shut.
And to do that, we need to understand reality because the core people, behind the people, behind the people, the shadow people as I call them, they understand the nature of the reality that we're experiencing.
And they have worked tirelessly and endlessly to manipulate the structure of society and the information allowed to circulate in society to keep the people in total ignorance of the very reality that they're experiencing.
And how can we possibly be free in a world that we don't even know what the world is?
We don't know who we are.
We don't know the nature of the reality we're experiencing.
If we don't start to get an understanding of that information, then again, just like the banking system, we're pawns in a game where someone else knows the rules and we don't.
And that's why this whole area of Who are we?
Where are we?
What is the nature of reality is so absolutely vital, because it offers the key to the door.
And that's why it's my prime focus now, because this is where the key is held to open the door to this prison cell that they're building by the minute.
Now to simplify that, they are trying to shock us now and intensify the amount of outrageousness Well you know when they say Cadbury cakes filled with melamine are good for you, they're doing that because some even greater horrors and intensification of the tyranny is coming and they're trying to acclimate the mind to where we're so shocked that we're basically numb and so what you're saying
And you're absolutely right from my perspective and my life and studying history and philosophy and sociology and what's happening is once you realize you're being manipulated, once you understand you're being programmed, once you understand that's going on, then you start looking and then it's a progression of levels as you become more and more aware and that's what the enemy is in a race to block and stop.
Yeah, when you expand your consciousness, your energy field starts to vibrate quicker and quicker and quicker.
As you close your consciousness and you become a prisoner almost entirely of the five senses in how you see reality, you see possibility, and the five senses decode reality in sense of limitation i can't the five senses are telling us all the time how powerless we are how how many things we can't do how limited we are as you expand your consciousness that dramatically changes
so if you can hold people in a low vibrational state because everything is vibrating energy uh in different forms then you are literally we we use these truisms as throwaway lines in our everyday life you are literally closing the minds of people so anything that will slow us down vibrationally is is and fear is the biggest one um will make us more and more closed-minded and have a more more limited
view of possibility in our own selves.
And we're being bombarded to that end by food additives, by additives in drink and water, by all the shocks that you're talking about, by all the things that create the laboratory rat scenario.
And, of course, when we're in fear and when we're in stress, what do we say?
Oh, I feel so heavy.
I feel so tight.
Why?
Because you're going into a lower and lower vibrational state.
And the more you do, the more the five senses dominate your reality.
And where do the five senses look, Alex, to get a fix on who we are and what's going on in the world?
they look outside into this world and then madison avenue tells the women they're ugly and inadequate so they get even more depressed and and and and don't realize what incredible dynamic creatures they are men think they need to be manly and start fights and only like football and not be good parents all of it is to hamstrings but let me throw out a historical example of of of horizons and and expanding your vision The elite, of course, have suppressed a lot of history.
But they know that we are, quote, made in the image of the Creator.
We are great creators.
We can build things.
And that's why a science fiction writer like Jules Verne or H.G.
Wells or any of these people, they could expand just their imagination and almost everything they wrote about and talked about has now manifest because what the mind imagines in steps it is able to later construct through this group community, this mass organism That we know of as humanity.
So that's why the elite know to stop a true renaissance to the stars, they have to make us petty, small, hateful, to turn against each other, and fearful of taking action.
Now, I say there's a balance there.
People call it fear.
When I say we've got to take action and go out and warn the people about the New World Order or they're going to enslave us, that isn't fear.
I'm saying we have a positive way to stop this, but things will be bad if we don't.
That's just telling people the lay of the land.
They use a false fear of keep your mouth shut and everything will be all right.
If you don't, you'll be in trouble.
Do you see what I'm saying, David?
Because I've been very successful in different ways than you have.
You've been successful in other ways than I.
By getting people moving, by being a cold bucket of ice water when they're in a trance, I am able, with the information, to shock them into waking, and then they find people like David Iy.
I mean, the biggest aspect of this whole conspiracy, Alex, in my view, is that they have manipulated humanity into a false sense of identity.
It's a sense of identity that looks in the mirror in the morning and says, that is me.
I am Chuck Jones.
I am Ethel Smith.
when we are consciousness having an experience as Chuck Jones and Ethel Smith.
And if you identify who you are with the vehicle, then you are going to identify yourself with the reality of the vehicle, which is limitation, I can't, powerlessness.
We need to start to understand that the prime, bottom line, foundation of this conspiracy is to put us in this fake identity where we identify with being human as human is what we are.
Human is what we are experiencing.
Now, when near-death experiences have these now in their millions recorded experiences of leaving the body when the body dies and then coming back again when the body is revived, they tell extraordinarily common stories of what they experienced in the intervening time where their they tell extraordinarily common stories of what they experienced in the intervening time where their consciousness massively expanded, where they were seeing the past, the present, and the future at the same time, where there was no time, where there was no sequence of events even, where they had this amazing where there was no sequence of events even, where they had this amazing ability to
See, what the body does, Alex, I had this...
I was sitting in the bath a few months ago, and I had this vision in my mind, and it went like this.
First of all, there was swirling energy, and I knew immediately that was symbolic of consciousness.
Then an eye appeared in the energy, and...
And in front of the eye appeared a telescope, and on the end of the telescope was the Earth and this universe.
And then, this is the crucial point, the telescope morphed into a human body.
And what the human body is, it's like a, well it is a biological computer, but what it does... It's your narrowly focused consciousness.
frequency range of reality, which scientists call visible light.
People think when they look out of their eyes that they're seeing everything that exists in the space they're looking at.
They are not.
They are looking at a tiny, tiny frequency range of the mass and matter that mainstream science says exists in this universe, and there's a lot more than they've discovered yet.
The electromagnetic spectrum is 0.005% of that, and visible light is a fraction of the 0.005%.
That is the only frequency range that our eyes decode and our brain and genetic system decodes.
And sharing the same space as this, if you like, television station, which we call physical reality, or endless other realities, just like in the space that I'm sitting in now.
All the radio and television stations broadcasting to California are in the space that I'm occupying.
They're not interfering with each other.
They're not aware of each other unless they're really close on the dial.
But they're sharing the same space.
And we are experiencing a frequency range which we decode into this reality.
And the physical body, the body computer, locks us into that frequency range.
So when we leave the body and these near-death experiences experience this, we leave that limitation, that focus, that television station, and suddenly we expand to the full magnitude of who we are.
What the conspiracy is about, because at the core the shadow people understand this, is hypnotizing us from cradle to grave to believe that we are the vehicle which is focusing our consciousness to experience this reality and that we are as limited as that vehicle perceives the world.
That is how you can turn humanity, infinite consciousness, infinite expressions into a herd of sheep.
When we break that understanding, when we move our point of observation from, I am Chuck Jones, I have no power, to I am infinite consciousness, Having an experience and I can take that understanding that power and I can change this reality because I know that we got a brain is that I am Then we have to break right now.
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Another great place to find out a lot of shocking information, which regardless will open your horizons, make you question, and regardless of whether it's all correct or not, it is extremely positive to question.
And I see that's the genius of David Icke, and I really agree with him on 98% of what he covers.
I just haven't been able to tangibly prove the other 2%.
My gut tells me, and I hope for God's sake it's probably true, but the point is, is that I stick to what I can prove more in this plane of existence, because I've found that's more successful with people who aren't further down the research line.
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Okay, David, we've got about four minutes until this segment, so we're already being into the second hour.
You were getting into the nature of reality when I had to cut you off for the break there and how we are limited down to just this level of life, but everybody knows in their gut and everything else that there's something more.
The sixth sense is proven.
You know when somebody's looking at you in a restaurant, you know when you're in the woods and somebody's over the next hill.
I mean, there's so much more to all of this, and the enemy is obsessed with it, and they're into dark energy, and they're into torture and blood and death.
I mean, the best example in the last few months is a sickening artist like Damien Hurst who sells a bucket of maggots, you know, a jar of maggots, saggots for 4 million pounds or a crystal devil skull for 100 million pounds or 98 million pounds or images of razor blades and blood and tortured babies for 20 million pounds.
And the elite go and buy this and they say, we're buying this because we are worshipping this.
Everything in the end comes down to a vibrational state.
The lower it is, the more limited you are.
The more narrow-minded, I would say narrow-banded you are, the more you expand your consciousness, the more the energy vibrates quicker.
We are experiencing a band of frequencies.
Now, our consciousness is vibrating too quickly to interact with it.
If my consciousness tried to interact with this book on this table in front of me, I couldn't pick it up, just as Radio A couldn't interact with Radio 2, because they share the same space, but they're not close enough on the dial to interact with each other.
So consciousness takes on an outer shell that is vibrating within the frequency range it wants to interact with.
We call it the human body.
Therefore, because I have that, I can pick that book up because they're operating in the same frequency range they can interact.
The whole basis of this conspiracy, Alex, is to manipulate us to identify who we are with the physical vehicle we are using to experience this reality because that sees everything in terms of apartness.
He sees everything in terms of limitation.
And once you're in what I call body consciousness, which basically filters reality through the five senses, you're into a state of powerlessness, of limitation, of icon.
And crucially, you're in a state of seeing everything as a part, which is the perfect vehicle, the perfect landscape, to bring about divide and rule to different religions.
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Finishing up with the nature of reality and then expanding into not just the positive reality and love and light and goodness, but then we're going to get into the dark side and what makes up the enemy.
Well, this is the key, and this might, you know, shock a few people when they think about it, but this reality that we are experiencing as solid walls and an apparently solid world is just an illusion.
The only place it exists is in our heads, and it is what I call the holographic internet.
I'm in this room now, and if I look around, the wireless internet is in this room, but I can't see it.
But if I get a computer and I tune it into the wireless internet, suddenly I have a complete worldwide collective reality called the World Wide Web, which can be accessed anywhere in China, They'll fire walled off to a large extent.
Australia, South America, London, anywhere in the world, people can tap in through that computer into the same collective reality.
What they make of it is their unique spin, but it's the same reality.
And if you said to people, tell me about the internet, they'd say, well, it's graphics and websites and colors on a screen.
Yes, it is.
But the only place the Internet exists in that form is on the screen.
But the only place that television exists in that form is on the screen.
Everywhere else it is electronic circuits and frequency fields which the television decodes into those pixels.
What we do through this physical vehicle, what we call physical anyway, is we're decoding a reality on exactly the same principle, though fantastically more sophisticated, as the wireless internet.
And this is where we get our collective reality from.
Now this is vital to the conspiracy, Alex, because If you know this and the people don't, then you can manipulate the way they decode reality to fit what you want those people to do.
What is that stage hypnotist doing on a stage?
He is manipulating the stoogiest sense of reality.
In other words, the way they decode reality.
So he'll give one, for instance, a potato and he'll I'll eat the potato, but he beforehand will have programmed the brain, the decoding system, to believe that it's an apple.
So as the message goes from the taste buds to the brain, as an electrical signal, the brain decodes that not as a potato, but as an apple.
You try telling that guy he's not eating an apple, because he's tasting it.
I went to stage images shows when I was researching all this, and I watched it happen.
Well it shows predictive programming and they have those TV shows where they really do it and they found in studies that the population is more suggestible, massively more suggestible than they were just 10, 20, 30, 40 years ago.
We're being programmed by TV to be more suggestible and now everything's like You know, Times Square, where they're taking over reality with blimps and with TV screens, and where everything is becoming this Minority Report world.
And because they know that this information I'm talking about now, they understand this at the shallow people level, and they are programming just like hypnotists.
And they are hypnotists.
They're programming the decoding system of the brain to decode reality, this wireless Internet, this holographic cosmic Internet, if you like, we call the physical world, to decode it in a way that suits them in terms of limitation, in terms of how we see ourselves.
We're all these individual biomechanical machines marching around the surface of a giant planetoid covered by oceans and a thin ribbon of atmosphere who are all individually experiencing just a very narrow band of reality and then they're even trying to program that narrow band and use our social conditioning to keep us in very small parameters, David, correct?
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David, I was asking you the question for the InfoWars Internet audience, now we're back on the main audience, about the mapmakers of the mind.
It's also dangerous if we unlock minds.
Or people unlock their own minds by us pointing out that they're locked.
And then the New World Order has set up lots of spiritual traps, or lots of, you wouldn't even call it spiritual coding traps is what I would call them, of false rabbit trails, which are meant to suck people into very dangerous cults, very dangerous Eastern organizations, all sorts of New World Order stuff.
Because the New World Order knows this, they're into it, so they've made it all very dark, and they capture people that break up through the control matrix, and they're swimming up, And the New World Order captures them in...
I'm on TV right now.
I'm showing people, you know, here's the mass-controlled consciousness that believes the Federal Reserve is federal, and the government loves you, and everything's fine, and melamine plastic's good for your kidneys, and poison's good for you.
You know, they're down here, but more and more are breaking through, swimming up, so the New World Order's created lots of false solutions, and lots of, I mean, it's very sophisticated, and then they infest the, you know, consciousness crowd, and knowing that people are going to escape, they're there to capture them.
Well, this is the bottom line of what they're doing, Alex.
You can call it soul, I call it infinite consciousness, expanded consciousness, whatever you like.
The idea is to keep that from imposing or infusing its level of wisdom and awareness and love and the understanding that everything is one through the physical vehicle computer into this reality.
It wants to isolate the computer and then into what I call body consciousness, which also includes the lower auric field, the electromagnetic field.
Yeah, the thing is that once you disconnect from, if you like, higher levels of awareness and you become encased in body consciousness, you're looking outside of yourself for information to get a fix on life, yourself, the nature of reality.
And what comes back?
What you learn at school, what you learn through the media, what you learn from bankers and politicians and all the rest of it.
In other words, what they're doing is isolating the computer from our consciousness, what you would call soul, and then programming the computer with the reality that suits the agenda.
Now, as people awaken, there are, what I've called in my books, endless cul-de-sacs, which are being set up, little mouse traps.
to take people away from the full magnitude of expressing the full power and awareness of who they are into things like the New Age and into other things where they can be, if you like, yeah, put it in a cul-de-sac.
I mean, I've called the New Age in my books the last cul-de-sac before the gold mine because it takes people away from understanding that they are the power.
And again, it hands power to other people, some guru or some New Age guy or whatever, just as the religions in all their forms are about the people handing their power and their belief systems over to others.
We are consciousness.
We are infinite consciousness We're all expressions of the same consciousness That's why the fighting between it is so idiotic and stupid and ridiculous But that's what happens when you lose that understanding of unity and you see everything in in a partners because you're caught in the in the body body computer so what we need to do is to move our point of observation of the world and ourselves from i am ethel smith in the computer i am the computer to i am infinite consciousness having an experience through this computer
in this tiny frequency range we call the the physical world and everyone else whose eyes i look into are the same consciousness as me having a different experience yeah back into myself and that's the incredible thing is that just in a meat and potatoes way let's say there is no consciousness about this which we know is a lie but through genetic consciousness it's all a mirror
I understand that I am all those that came before me, and I am passing on through my children, everybody that came before me and who I was, and I realize I'm going to love my children's grandchildren, who I'll never meet, or their great-grandchildren, As much as I love my children, or I love myself, in fact, more so, and so why would I want to commit a crime against the genetic code?
Why would I want to commit a crime against humanity when I'm related to all these people, whether they be black or white, Chinese or German, and I realize that, and then I ask myself, how, why does the New World Order revel They know the Mercury is damaging the genetic code.
They know the GMO is attacking and actually mutating the human species.
They know they're attacking the Earth.
And then they give us fake environmentalism when we rebel against that and then use it to control us more.
They know they are killing things.
Now we've talked about the positive side, the enemy.
They understand this system, but the controllers, the shadow behind the throne, The power behind the throne, they have made the conscious decision to revel in darkness and destruction.
Well, let's just go one point, which kind of relates to this, but relates to what you just said.
Take consciousness to be the most brilliant computer programmer in the world.
And he's sitting at his desk in front of a computer, symbolic of the body, shall we say, and he's trying to get his genius through that computer into the reality on the screen, this world.
If that computer is destabilized, if it's not working, if it's got viruses, if it's not decoding properly, if it's got various things wrong with it, if it's electrically imbalanced and its decoding system is distorted, I don't care if that guy in that chair Symbolic of our true self, our true consciousness is the best computer programmers ever lived.
He's not going to pass that genius through that computer.
So this conspiracy, Alex, is about attacking the vehicle, the decoding system, to make sure that it is inefficient and imbalanced and doesn't operate to the true efficiency and magnitude that it possibly We could.
Because they're talking now about connecting the human brain to a computer, and you can work the computer through your thoughts, is because they're two computers, one more sophisticated by stunning margin than the other, but that's what they're doing.
So the idea is to attack the vehicle, the computer, on every level they can.
That includes programming it through words and repetition of lies, like Bin Laden was behind 9-11 and all this stuff.
And eventually, repetition is a wonderful mind manipulation technique and programming technique.
And the computer then starts reading reality to fit the programming.
Once you introduce consciousness, those programs start to break down and that's when people start to wake up.
That's why, when you study eugenics, publicly they say it's about making the race better and getting rid of the bad, but real eugenics, at the PhD level, they say, no, we've got to mutate and dumb down the mass of people, so we in the future, and this is a hundred years ago, you know, all the top eugenicists, and we put it in the film Endgame, Blueprint for Global Enslavement, all the proof, there's a bibliography of it, whatistheendgame.com, they say, we really want to wreck humanity, so we can greedily control it for ourselves, because they'd rather rule in hell than serve in heaven.
And so, when you look at the body computer on one level, it is an electro-chemical organism.
What are they bombarding us, not least our kids, with?
Chemical cocktails called soft drinks and food.
Electromagnetic microwave attacks and pollution which we're living in.
And if you want to affect every fish in one go, what do you do?
You affect the sea.
Then you've done it.
And they're affecting this energy field that we're living in in the lower levels around the Earth, which we can operate in as humans in this world.
And they are infiltrating it with all this electromagnetic pollution, which is designed to disrupt the ability of the computer to access higher consciousness.
Yeah, there was a line in that which encapsulates what we're saying here.
It said, keep them busy, busy, busy back on the farm with their other animals.
They're trying to keep our mines occupied constantly.
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And that holds us in body consciousness reality, because it's dealing with words, which is a body consciousness decoder.
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I'm not talking as some guru who's on a mountain and telling you how to do it.
I'm telling you what's happened to me over the last 20 years.
It's a simple thing, Alex, but my goodness me is it powerful in how it pans out and plays out and changes in your life and everything.
Once you look in the mirror and you identify what you are looking at with the vehicle that's allowing you to experience this frequency range we call the world, and you move your sense of identity to, I am infinite consciousness, I am all that is, has been and ever will be, not that time exists outside of this reality, it's another figment of our manipulated imagination.
and programming.
Once you move your sense of identity out to that level of self, everything changes.
I mean, you know, fearful of what some government's going to do, fearful of the consequences of taking action in pursuit of freedom.
I mean, you know, that level of consciousness, which is a level of love, which is beyond our comprehension.
It's not, I love you, darling, saw you down the disco.
That level of love is an attraction.
Actually, it can be manipulated chemically if you stimulate certain chemicals in the brain.
That's attraction.
I was in a half-wake state waking up the other day, and going around my head was this statement, Love is not what you are in.
I'm in love with you.
Love is what you are.
And at that level, that level of love, the true definition of love, not attraction, but love for all, love for self, it has No fear.
It only does not what it believes to be right.
It does what it knows to be right.
And it chooses freedom.
And freedom and love do not do consequences.
There's no mental gymnastics.
Oh, I want freedom.
But what are the consequences for me of going down there?
Freedom doesn't do consequences.
Love doesn't do consequences.
It does what it believes to be right.
And I tell you what, when you get to this level of consciousness, Alex, something that would change this world overnight because of all that would come from it, if people started making decisions not based on what is right for me in the circumstances before me, and that turns out often not to be right for you anyway, but what is right End of story in the circumstances that I face.
What do I need to do to pursue that version of what is right?
And if we did that, there'd be no hunger, there'd be no conflict, there'd be no child abuse, there'd be no environmental abuse, there'd be none of this stuff.
We'd be in a completely different level of consciousness, and therefore we'd be in a completely different level of experiences of this world.
As Albert Einstein said, You cannot solve problems with the same level of consciousness that created them.
And because we've got caught in body consciousness and not the high soul consciousness, if you like, that we really are, therefore we bring a political party in with a certain level of consciousness and we replace it with another with the same level of consciousness.
We interact with the world with the same level of consciousness and then we wonder why the world never changes for the better because the same level of consciousness that is creating the problems, then returns to create more problems.
We have to move into an expanded level of awareness of who we are, the nature of reality, the illusory nature of reality that we live in, and then we can have a paradise here, because illusions only control you when you think they're real, and that's the key to this conspiracy.
It's been persuading people that this illusion that we're interacting with, and we can have great fun and joy with, is actually real.
And once you buy that one, you're in body consciousness, and you're in the slammer.
Well, well, well, the thing is, well, I mean, I know that you've got a lot of things to do, but I would love, and I promise you we would end it then and also give you a break later.
What if we did 20 minutes into the next hour?
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But I do want to take some time out and take some calls before the show ends as well.
David, during the break, when we were still talking for the internet audience on PrisonPlanet.tv, we were discussing, you know, I was saying, well, the elite are like a cancer, though.
They understand this.
They've decided to be dark and evil and to shudder the souls of humanity because it makes them more easily manageable.
And they revel in darkness.
And I can't imagine having the knowledge of the wonders of being good and being loving and doing all that and then making the conscious decision to be dark and wicked.
So why are they doing that?
And as good guys, how do we stand up against them?
Well, they are locked into such a depth of their own body consciousness.
That's why there's other connections to that.
But they're so locked into that level of reality that that's why they're so good at manipulating it, right?
They're almost like soulless beings who have lost such contact with these higher levels of awareness that basically, if you look at the way they operate, they operate through intellect.
They are very, very clever.
But they have absolutely no wisdom, and cleverness without wisdom is the most destructive force on earth.
So they're coming from an intellectual level, which is a body consciousness level, because the intellect thinks and works things out.
It's not that high a knowing that we've talked about.
And they're so stuck in it that they have lost touch with a key self-balancing mechanism, which is empathy.
They have no empathy.
And because they have no empathy, they have no emotional consequences for what they do to people.
So 3,000 people on 9-11, hundreds and hundreds of thousands of dead and maimed civilians in Iraq.
We have this emotional feeling for the consequences for others of our actions.
When you don't have them, there are no limits.
And that's why they act like they do.
And it's why I've been saying for years, if you see what they would do on the basis of what you would do, then you've lost the plot because they're not the same because of what I've been talking about.
And they are.
I mean, I know I've had lots of ridicule and also over the years I've had lots of ridicule over many things.
I don't care what is what it is.
But, you know, these people interact on a human level with entities that operate just outside of visible light.
You know, as I said right at the start of this chat today, I'm sitting here in California and all the television and radio stations broadcast in California are sharing the same space that I'm sharing now.
They're not on top of each other like a chest of drawers, they're sharing the same space because they're vibrating at different speeds.
Now when you get two stations that are very close to each other, There's close enough interference, interference symbolic of interaction, and these entities that these people worship in their stupid, sick and horrific rituals are to interact with these entities that operate just outside of visible light, just outside of human sight.
And what these entities do is they feed off low vibrational human energy, which is fear, stress, all these different expressions of low vibrational energy.
And this, Alex, is where the age-old term of sacrificing young virgins to the gods comes from.
What are young virgins symbolic of in that term?
Prepubescent children.
I've understood this by talking to people who've taken part in these things overwhelmingly against their will.
What these entities do is they are there at the ritual, and they put these children and other people, too, through horrific rituals, and they build them up to a state of absolute terror.
And this is releasing this really low vibrational energy of terror, and it also puts an adrenaline in the bloodstream, which the human elite drink like a nectar.
So when they do the sacrifice, the entity automatically...
or entities that they're doing the ritual for, which have various names in different parts of the world, they absorb this energy like an energetic sustenance to them, while the human level of it, they drink the blood which has this adrenaline in.
And this is one reason, there are many other reasons, why they do these rituals.
And so a mass creation of this energy, a mass version of this ritual, we call wars.
We call credit crunches and banking collapses because of all the stress and fear energy that is released by the people in the face of these things.
So on one level, it's not the only reason they do it, but on one level they're manipulating fearful stress creating terror creating event to actually elicit that energy low vibrational energy from the people why so it's not just a very evil and enjoy it it is a psychic war and they're polluting everything with the gloom and doom yeah that bring in everything
or as i said earlier they they they all massively locked into low low low vibrational consciousness There is almost no light there at all, and that's why they act like they do.
You know, we've had this age-old theme, Alex, through the centuries and thousands of years right across the world in ancient accounts about the soulless ones.
That's what we're talking about.
And, you know, Christians would talk about demonic entities, and the Muslims would talk about the gins and stuff.
These are all different names for the same thing we're talking about here.
Because if you really break it down to the level that we're talking about today, Alex, Well, the Egyptians said they were gods, and they had to keep that bloodline in the family.
When you procreate, you are in effect downloading two hard drives, called DNA and whatever, onto one hard drive, which we call the new child body computer.
The child is consciousness.
The child's body is a computer like everyone else.
Now, that means that these bloodlines, when they interbreed, what they're holding is, in effect, a software program, a certain vibrational field, which is the fusion of the two aspects of the same genetic line, i.e., the same, you know, aristocracy or royal family, whatever.
The Elite Bloodlines in physical form within this reality, they are vibrating to a particular frequency which, because it's a hybrid, has a vibrational sympathy with these entities operating just outside of visible light, human sight, and therefore that
vibrational connection allows these particular bloodlines to be possessed, another ancient theme right up to the present day, by these entities much more powerfully and efficiently in terms of controlling their mental and emotional processes than they can with the rest of the by these entities much more powerfully and efficiently in terms of They can with the rest of the population.
And so this is the key, Alex.
You've got a human bloodline, which is a hybrid bloodline with a certain type of DNA which they interbreed incessantly and have over the centuries to hold.
This allows a vibrational connection with these entities which allows the possession of these human forms by these non-human entities.
And then you've got the secret society network, which manipulates these human elite bloodlines that we talk constantly about into the positions of power, and indeed their gophers into the positions of power.
And what we're actually doing is putting, or they're doing, is putting these entities into those positions of power.
But because we look at them with our five-cent sight, we decode only the human level, so that's all we see.
But if you could tease out your visual acuity and see a wider range of frequencies as you look at these people, you would see anything but a human entity overshadowing it.
This is how they've done it.
And this is what these bloodlines are about, having vibrational compatibility with these entities which they worship, these gods that they worship.
When I was at Bohemian Grove, people would say, oh, it's just a play.
I was there with a thousand-plus members watching the ritual.
They were grinding their teeth.
They were in religious rapture.
They did some other ritual over behind the trees that was the real ritual, and they did the mock human sacrifice of the child, and that's in their own literature.
Now Macy's has come out with all of this Bohemian Grove, the Knights of the Illuminati, 666, you know, the Uh, you know, the hell group.
I mean, now they're really throwing it in our face.
And we always know that through the popular fashions, they telegraph what's coming in the future.
Why are we seeing all the skulls and death and now Illuminati clothing?
Yeah, because they understand, because they are so entrapped in computer-level reality, they understand this stadium.
And so what they're doing is trying to pull all the time, as we talked about in this chat today, They're trying to pull humanity into a sense of reality that operates in the same stadium.
They are absolutely terrified of this awakening, which they knew was coming, and they know is now here.
They're terrified of it, and they're desperately pushing this agenda forward, not least the microchip.
Because the real idea of the microchip, yes, it's for electronic tagging, and the computer knows where everyone is, yes.
But I've been given chapter and verse by a CIA scientist about this many years ago now, 10 years in fact, 1997, 1998.
The idea is to hijack the body computer through the microchip so they can externally manipulate us vibrationally, physically, mentally, and emotionally from a distance, either en masse or isolating us as individuals.
And the reason that they, there's many reasons for the same thing, but a major, major reason for wanting a world DNA database is, It's because we all vibrate, although we vibrate within a certain frequency range, we all vibrate on our own unique signal as well.
And if you know someone's DNA through the technology they have, they can work out that unique signal and target it.
It's what the whole conspiracy comes down to in the end, and everything else is playing it out.
Well, we knew from the Army plan that was written up in the 80s and classified in 2000, In February, we know in there that the Army says that through FADS, through security, through prisoners, through Alzheimer's patients, and through having law enforcement be forced to take chips, they could then force the public to do it.
And now if you want to be a fighter pilot, you're going to have to have it.
That's openly mainstream news.
They are preparing the public that if you want to have a job, you're going to have to have basically this little wire port into your brain.
And the Army says that by 2025, all of us will be, this is what they say, and this is where the movie The Matrix came from, was from the DARPA, exactly, from the DARPA reports, and this is in my book, Descent into Tyranny, they say that they're going to put us all in tanks to be in the hive mind, so that movie is the plan.
Well, the Hype Mind is something I've been writing about for a long, long time, and you can only put people... Because, you know, when I talk about, you know, infinite consciousness, I'm not talking about everyone being a clone and acting the same.
Yeah, tie it into the bigger picture, not into the narrow band.
But, David, my point is...
You're not just saying this, the official army prospectus says this is the plan for full spectrum dominance because there'll be no more war, we'll all be safe if we're in these tanks.
You can't make stuff up that's weirder than last year, the British ten year prospectus talked about having a neutron bomb.
Us, if we resist them, having to kill masses of us, flash mobs.
I mean, people think David Icke is weird or off the charts.
If you read what DARPA and the Pentagon and their head futurist, Mr. Marshall, are saying, it's all even stranger than David Icke.
Oh yeah, I mean, you know, the rabbit hole goes much deeper than any of us have got yet, but the thing is, Alex, as you were saying, and I was pointing out, the infinite consciousness is all possibility, so expressing your uniqueness, your maverick, your unique spin on life is actually expressing the infinite consciousness.
So, when you talk, as you just have about those documents, you know, the tanks and everyone becoming a hive mind, they can only create a hive, and they can't get to consciousness.
You see, it's vibrating too quickly.
It's too powerful for them anyway.
Their arena is the body computer decoding system.
And they can only put us in a hive mind by locking us in that level of reality.
Now, they've done it for vast numbers of people, but this awakening is literally breaking the spell.
Yes, we need to know what the manipulation and the conspiracy is doing, so we streetwise do it, and there are enormous numbers of people who still don't realize they're slaves, who need that information to realize that they are, then they can do something about it.
It doesn't mean you'll be a master of this overnight.
Just start questioning the system, stop watching TV, love your family, eat healthy, go out and warn people, expose the bankers, and that leads you on the path to expanding your horizons.
David Ike, what an amazing individual.
David, let's take calls.
We're going to skip this next break as well for the Internet listeners.
I've been wanting to talk with both of y'all for a while.
And, you know, talking about the dynamics of these vibrational frequencies, you've covered it pretty good.
What I think we have coming toward us, those that are truth-rising, such as the both of you and your listening audience, is that we're approaching a point of separation.
In our vibration frequencies.
They've kept by keeping us in fear, they've brought us down to their low life vibration that you've expressed so eloquently.
And by us raising our vibration frequency by getting above their fear that they're trying to perpetrate us and keep us beat down, we will be able to raise our vibration frequency to a point that they won't be able to exist because they are so low life and dishonest and You know, they create the killing field, they've contaminated the planet, you know, the food, the water, everything, you know, and they operate with no conscience.
And I just feel like we're approaching that point of separation where they won't be able to function in their thought forms in a higher vibration.
What I was going to say is that if you look at society and the way it's structured and all the things that are in society...
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Real, it's a digital image and she isn't really personally looking at you.
So, you can experience the five senses, something very nice.
We don't come here to then ignore the fact that we're here.
I would say this to people who awaken, quote, spiritually, you know, we don't come here to awaken our consciousness and then ignore the fact that we're actually here because we've opened our consciousness.
Consciousness has to express itself to make the changes in society.
Just for you to listen to the audience, one way through my own personal experience of raising my personal vibration and recognizing it as it happens is the feeling of goosebumps.
You know, that's just a surge of vital energy coming into every cell of your body, head to toe.
Alright, twisting the arm of David Icke, DavidIcke.com, and when this radio show ends on the AM and FM dial in three minutes, you'll have to tune to InfoWars.com and PrisonPlanet.com on those streams or PrisonPlanet.tv to see us go live into overdrive right now.
Uh, Ashore in Oklahoma, you're on the air with David Icke.
Yes, um, Mr. Jones, I've been listening to you for about three years now.
I have quite an extensive notebook of notes that I've been keeping relative to many of your shows.
This one in particular struck my interest because you're speaking of vibrational energy, which you've been referring to as frequencies.
I've been studying that phenomenon for some time now, mainly through ancient languages.
And, uh, for example, I am of the belief, based on extensive research, that what you refer to as the New World Order and the current economic crisis is actually a transformation of the Beast of Mammon that will re-emerge as the Neo-Roman Empire.
And one of the reasons I say that is because of the calendar that Western culture and most of the industrialized world lives by is the same calendar that was implemented by Julius Caesar in 46 B.C.
And that what we are experiencing now is, in fact, the culmination of the prophecy relative to... Alright, stop right there.
Again, my websites are InfoWars.com and PrisonPlanet.com.
When David leaves us in five minutes, I'm going to cover the latest economic developments in overdrive only at InfoWars.com and PrisonPlanet.tv.
But in the 30 seconds we've got left, the main transmission, David, That we have to end this in just a few minutes, because other shows are coming up, and I've got to get off the line.
Well, we're just going to go into retransmission now, but bottom line, David, they are trying to recreate empires they've had previously, and I'll ask you right now, as we go into overdrive, why they are doing that.
Here we go, ladies and gentlemen, into overdrive, right now.
David, I'm going to let you go in just five minutes because I've got to get off this network line, but network, I'm fine to be here for five minutes, I know that.
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I want to go back to Aaron now.
Aaron, finish up with your other points on eugenics.
And the problem is with breeding, you're talking about exterminating most of the puppies or kittens that are born.
You're talking about the state having this incredible control.
And in special breed, you get more mental illness, more inherited diseases, and the elites that are bred, most of their children are born retarded or had serious mental illness problems.
But do they give up this system of control?
No, they've only intensified it down throughout the last hundred plus years.
And now they're practicing their eugenics upon us through the vaccines, through the chemtrails, through the entire system.
Aaron, I want to have you back up in a couple weeks again for a whole other discussion and other areas of eugenics because this is the governing system, the ideology of the New World Order.
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and And he is a 9-11 truther.
We had him on almost a year ago.
It was a long time ago.
Time just flies by.
It seems like yesterday.
And he also campaigns for the legalization of marijuana, the decriminalization.
You got 80 plus percent of drug users only use marijuana.
They need to keep it that way so that they need to keep it illegal so they can SWAT team raid more people and fill more prisons.
Well, the government has been caught hundreds of times shipping in heroin and cocaine and laundering the money.
Did you know it's legal for foreign drug money to be invested in the New York Stock Exchange?
And the former head, Richard Grasso, when he was head of the New York Stock Exchange, was in Reuters going to the FARC, communist guerrillas, and saying, invest your cocaine money with us.
I'm going off on a rant here about the decriminalization of marijuana.
They need to keep it illegal because, what is it, 86-87% of people only smoke marijuana that uses illegal drugs.
George Washington smoked it.
Again, ladies and gentlemen, this is an excuse.
What's a greater crime?
Guys in black masks SWAT teaming you at 3 a.m.?
Or somebody smoking marijuana?
You know, do we want this great evil in the name of stopping this minor evil?
And I'm not a marijuana person.
I've smoked marijuana, and it's just not my cup of tea.
But I know a lot of people that do smoke it, a lot of doctors and lawyers and people, and they don't need to be SWAT teamed.
Mark Stepnowski, I really appreciate you coming on with us today.
You're going to be with us for the next 50 minutes at the bottom of the hour.
We're going to open the phones up at 1-800-259-9231.
In the last 10 months or so since you were on with us, a lot has happened.
The top Italian former presidents, German defense ministers, Japanese diet members, best actress, so many prominent people have gone public for 9-11 Truth.
Give us your take on the evolution of it and why 9-11 Truth is so important, and why you took the step of speaking out, Mark.
Like you said, as time goes on, more and more people are coming forward as they gradually become aware of the facts.
I think it's a good thing.
Obviously, you know, through online research and through the amount of books and magazines that have come out now, you know, enough authors have come forward and stated their opinion.
And I think what's really important now is You know, obviously, people early on, shortly after the 9-11 attacks, were kind of pigeonholed as conspiracy theorists.
But now, that label, it never did apply, but it's less applicable now than ever.
Simply because the people who are coming out in favor of 9-11 Truth are too credible to ignore.
You know, in the last few years we've had the formation of things like Scholars for 9-11 Truth, which includes architects and engineers for 9-11 Truth, pilots for 9-11 Truth.
We have former people who worked in government, including the current administration, who are coming out and saying that they don't believe the official story.
So it's just a case of, you know, as more people become exposed to it, as the media blackouts and mainstream media continues, mostly via the internet, people are becoming connected and becoming aware of these facts and voicing their opinion.
It's very encouraging to see.
You know, it's never too late for anybody who feels strongly about this issue to come forward and voice their opinion, because I think As time goes on, people will be surprised to find out that if they are no longer worried about expressing their skepticism of the official story regarding 9-11, they will find out that there are a lot of people out there, you might refer to them as a silent majority, who also feel very much the same way.
They are either too afraid or too reluctant to come forward and also express their doubts in the official story.
I just, you know, I got tired of waiting for the channels of government to move along in a proper fashion.
You know, like a lot of people, I had hope, it turns out to be false hope, in retrospect, but I had hope at the time that maybe the 9-11 Commission would be legitimate.
You know, the safeguards are in place in constitutional government.
I thought that they would kick in and operate in the manner in which they're supposed to.
And we would see a proper investigation, you know, with relevant witnesses and Evidence.
And, as we all know, none of that really came to fruition.
The 9-11 Commission was a sham.
It was a cover-up.
It was a modern-day version of the Warren Commission as far as its attempt to silence witnesses and suppress truth-tellers.
And, you know, when things reached that point and that commission was shown to be the impotent vehicle that it was, I just felt compelled to, in my own small way, say whatever I could as far as what I thought the truth was.
It's not just that you're a celebrity or a well-known sports figure.
It's that people resonate with the courage of a Willie Nelson or a Mark Stepnowski or a former German defense minister or a former governor.
They resonate And they know that person has a lot to lose.
That person's going to be demonized.
This person is really stepping up.
And so that's what makes you and so many others that have stood up and gone public heroes.
But look at the vindication.
The Chicago Tribune Four months ago, reported as well as Associated Press, the NSA declassified that Israel did attack the U.S.' 's liberty to try to sink it, to blame it on Egypt to start World War III, as they've now tried, the U.S.
has tried in Georgia.
It's now come out, Sy Hersh at a big media event, and he did admit in New Yorker Magazine that Cheney, he just said a staged provocation.
He said, this is the provocation to have U.S.
Navy SEALs dressed up like Iranians on blue PT boats attack U.S.
ships in the Strait of Hormuz.
So, government-sponsored terror, the fact the Gulf of Tonkin was staged, that's all coming out now, and people say, well, that was seven years ago, you know, 9-11, why are you so concerned?
Well, because Black Ops is going to continue to stage terror attacks as a pretext for control if we don't step up and expose that they're behind it.
We saw last year where Bush and Tony Blair had the plan to send U.S.
military planes over Iran disguised as U.N.
planes to try and instigate an attack on them so we would be justified in responding.
I remember also last year there was a big new Brzezinski appearing in the press, practically coming right out and saying, you know, we had to worry about the current administration putting together a false flag terror op to stimulate we had to worry about the current administration putting together a false flag This is a guy who is now Barack Obama's main foreign policy advisor.
So again, we have these people coming out in mainstream media within the last year with these scenarios that have come and gone that have involved false flag terror.
So I just think in this day and age, people are becoming a little bit too hip to what's going on.
They understand ahead of time.
Similar to what happened in Spain when you had the false flag terror attack there with the trains.
Hopefully we are reaching that point now in North America.
If you call a critical mass or whatever you want to.
Hopefully through, you know, the work that you do and statements made by 9-11 truthers like myself and the many others around the world.
You know, we have people, a politician in Japanese parliament came out wanting to have another investigation.
We're having a march in Canada to Ottawa to culminate on September 11th where they're going to present a petition at Parliament Hill for a new 9-11 investigation in Canada.
So I think, you know, worldwide you are seeing people come around and, you know, waking up to the fact that this was a false flag operation, you know, to have a certain effect on the American public.
The question now is, you know, are the people who live in America going to be smart enough to look into the right sources of information to kind of emancipate themselves from this media blackout that's going on?
I think if people, you know, continue to Turn off their TVs, give less credence to mainstream media, corporate media, and instead, you know, read online, read books, read magazines, anything out there that's going to give the true story of 9-11 truth.
This is what's going to mobilize the population in America so that when another false flag terrorist attack occurs, Whatever it is, whether it's bioterror, whether it's a mini-nuke somewhere, people will see it for what it is and not be railroaded into a certain mindset like they were after 9-11.
We're talking to Super Bowl champion two-time Mark Stepnoski, five-time pro bowler, and he's, again, going public, not because it's fun, but because it's his duty, and I would venture to say because he just said it, he knows that if we don't expose the tool of false flag, that mechanism, he knows that if we don't expose the tool of false flag, that mechanism, this military-industrial complex is going to keep doing Just like in England, how they hunt pheasants.
They beat pots and pans, they have beaters who push the birds out on a wedge so the hunters can shoot them when they get driven out.
It's the same thing.
You want to attack Iran, you want to attack Iraq, you stage an event.
You want to attack Egypt?
You stage an event.
They've been caught over and over and they're going to continue to do this if we don't expose it.
And that's why the courage of now thousands of prominent people that have gone public for 9-11 truth and now all these architects and engineers and businesses is unstoppable.
We're going to come back and talk about the fraudulent new NIST report with Mark Stepnowski and then we're going to take your phone calls.
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Yeah, obviously, since we're coming up on the anniversary of 9-11, there's a lot of activities going around to highlight the fact that the official story is untrue.
It is in New York City.
It's a 9-11 ballot initiative.
This is a way for, I mean, it's obvious that, like I said earlier, that we're not going to get a proper investigation through government channels.
But this is a way for the people of New York City to create a new 9-11 commission, an investigation of the events, which would have subpoena power.
It would have some legal authority.
Volunteers in New York City have been going around getting signatures on petitions.
They needed a minimum of $30,000, which they just recently achieved.
So that was great news.
And now these petitions will be submitted to the New York City Clerk and New York City Council.
With a sufficient amount of signatures, this being above 30,000, they will be able to present this, and then it can become an issue, a topic, on the ballot.
I believe it would be part of the 2009 ballot for mayor, the election of mayor in New York City.
Where citizens can vote for themselves, they can make their voices heard that they think it is necessary as citizens of that city, as voters of New York City, to demand a new investigation, one that actually has some teeth.
We need lots of grand jury-type public investigations, both governmental and non-governmental, to draw this out publicly and continue to expose it.
Everything is a step, to use a football analogy, for more yards to get a new set of downs towards the touchdown, bringing these criminals to justice.
And even if we never bring them to justice by sending them to prison, By publicly convicting them in the court of public opinion, and by educating the public about false flag terrorism, it breaks that tool that the black ops continue to use.
It's all a question of, you know, just mobilizing the masses.
I think a lot of people fall into a defeatist attitude of, you know, what can I do?
How can I make a difference?
I'm only one person.
Well, just by signing that petition, just by signing your name on that piece of paper, you are, in effect, saying, look, I don't believe in what the government is telling me.
I don't believe the lies that I'm being told in corporate media.
You know, I demand a new investigation.
This is one way for people to have their voice heard, people who otherwise Might feel powerless.
There's a lot of people in New York City.
If a lot of them mobilize, it might be surprising what could actually happen.
But, you know, I urge listeners of your show who either live in New York City or have family or friends there to let them know about this.
They can look it up on www.nyc911initiative.org and find out anything they would like to about this movement.
But I think that You know, right now it's moving along very nicely, and should it succeed in any degree, it'll be a big step forward.
And a lot of people have this loser mentality of, oh, it'll never be corruption, oh, there's no point.
Ladies and gentlemen, we don't have a choice, number one.
Number two, we're actually having an effect.
The majority of Americans in major polls believe there's a 9-11 cover-up.
There's hundreds of these polls.
We're having an effect.
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I knew their past history.
I knew the FBI had cooked the bomb, framed the driver, given them the detonators, blocked local police in 93 with the first attack.
I mean, again, look how far we've come from 9-11 that first day.
Look how far we've come, thanks to people like Mark Sipnosky, Willie Nelson, Governor Ventura, Stephen Jones.
Now, I'm going to skip this break for InfoWars.com.
We'll be back in three minutes.
I don't want to waste any time that we've got with Mark Sipnosky today, but Mark, that NIST report, They delayed it three years.
The people on the government NISH board are involved in explosive thermite research.
They're experts.
They're involved in government contracts.
And then they had to Uh, pull back.
They had to, uh, say, okay, our last five reasons for the towers falling and Building 7 falling are wrong.
It's not fuel oil tank.
It's not bad building construction.
It's not fires.
It's not... No, no.
They gave a new reason, a new syndrome, a new phenomenon.
We're going to cover that right now with Mark Stavnoski.
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And so a lot of scientists and physicists and architects that weren't involved and didn't believe it was an inside job are now looking going, you're saying jet fuel made 2,600-degree pockets of stuff five weeks later?
Thousands of degrees hotter?
I mean, NIST coming out and saying, now small fires bring down steel buildings, is changing everything.
Yeah, I mean, this coincides with the Bush administration's technique from day one.
They have actively sought to discredit science and to really argue with scientific belief.
You know, it doesn't matter whether it's the EPA, the FDA, whatever it is, you know, there's been active warfare on the part of the Bush administration against science.
They know marijuana doesn't kill one person a year.
It's a miracle drug with thousands of patented real things it does for cancer, glaucoma, but they're still SWAT teaming people every day where I live looking for marijuana.
you present, no matter how authoritative that evidence is, no matter who it comes from, as far as credible scientific or medical establishments, it will just be written off by propaganda.
It really is an info war.
You can present any kind of factual evidence you want to support your theory.
But again, corporate media, the Republican or Democratic Party, they'll just write it off with propaganda.
I'm sorry, but that is what we are seeing right now, which is another, by this NIST report, trying to come out and explain why something that's never happened before did happen, namely three steel buildings collapsing because of a fire in one day.
They do have to stretch the realms of reality.
You know, they do have to contradict science and offer an alternative view, which is completely bogus.
Which is why I'm glad to see that people with, uh, people who are experts, people, you know, whose backgrounds are in this field are coming forward and saying, look, you guys are just straining any credibility you have here to the breaking point.
We can't accept this.
The only thing is, You know, these are things that are coming out in scientific journals and academic papers that are peer-reviewed.
These are not things that appear on the evening news or are going to be on a front-page headline.
Like, three or four years ago, oh, let's see some studies.
And then they did studies.
Let's see them be peer-reviewed.
Then a couple of them get peer-reviewed by major, major peer-reviewed, I mean, not just side journals, big marquee, you know, Super Bowl-level journals.
We're talking the big ones.
You know, the most prestigious.
And then they try to write that off.
I mean, we keep clearing every hurdle, Mark, and the other side is just looking stupider and stupider.
So there we see another example, you know, just like the Office of National Drug Control Policy is part of the executive branch, and they are the ones who constantly spew forth misinformation about the drug war, we have NIST, which is also an executive branch administration, you know, leading the charge about the lies regarding 9-11.
Well, like you said though, more and more people are tuning out of mainstream media.
It's exponential, and instead of them reporting some of the truth or trying to act more credible, it seems like they're getting more shrill, more cartoonish, more ridiculous, piling lie on top of lie.
I don't know what the tactic is there, but it doesn't seem to be working, Mark.
Well, it reminds me of the old quote about, and I can't remember who said it, but it's just the old quote about truth coming out, you know.
First, when you are a truth teller, you know, in this age of universal deceit that we live in, where those of us are trying to commit a revolutionary act by telling the truth, You know, it becomes evident that we will be attacked.
That's the first method.
Actually, the first method is to be written off and ridiculed, and that was the case early on after September 11th.
We were all pigeon-holed as conspiracy theorists and we were out of our minds, so that was the ridicule.
Then you had the vicious attacks, and now it's becoming obvious that You know, the 9-11 truth movement is based on truth and facts and evidence.
We are being maliciously attacked.
Yes, and that's... You know, I just want to follow up by, again, with that famous quotation, the third stage of the truth being accepted is that people will accept it.
So I think now we are in the second stage.
You know, those first few years we were attacked and vilified.
I'm sorry, we were ridiculed.
Now we are being attacked and vilified.
Hopefully we are coming close to that third stage where there will be mass acceptance of this truth and people won't be afraid to put aside their cognitive dissonance and step out and accept this new paradigm of reality that we all have to see around us.
And that's really, I don't blame a lot of people who don't want to look at the facts, because every night when I go to bed, I look at how innocent my children are, I look at how good my wife is, and I just think, God, there are really evil people in this world, and they really are in control, and I've really gotten their face, and man, I've been threatened, and this is dangerous.
Then I realize, you know, I just can't let the world go on like this.
I've got to do my job, whether it has an effect or not.
But the truth is, when good people do get involved, I believe, as Thomas Jefferson said, that we can overturn evil.
Evil only wins.
Men and women do nothing.
And you're right.
First they ignore you, then they attack you, then you win.
And that's basically what's happening now.
And there's another quote I'm butchering, paraphrasing, but truth goes through three stages.
First it's laughed at, then it's ridiculed, then it's accepted as universally true.
Well, yeah, and just, you know, for me personally, you know, again, I think we should all just do what we can.
You know, different people have different amounts of time, different resources, be they financial or whatever.
But I just felt, personally, as an American citizen, it was my duty to speak out.
You know, I was asked to do a newspaper article for my hometown.
And it was just one of those deals, where are they now?
What are they doing now that they're retired?
And I just, again, I felt compelled to at least let people in Erie, Pennsylvania, my hometown, who read the paper, No, that somebody who came from there doesn't believe in the official story of 9-11 and wholeheartedly believes that they too should seek out the truth for themselves.
What type of response, I know overwhelmingly it was positive, but what type of negative responses did you get and what was it like with your moral courage to go through that and not recant?
Well, you know, the reaction overwhelmingly was positive.
I mean, I don't spend a lot of time in my hometown anymore, and I know that there were people who wrote in letters saying, you know, what's wrong with this guy?
He's way out in that field.
But like we discussed earlier, now that we are coming up on eight years after the fact, people are coming, I'm sorry, seven years after the fact, people are becoming aware of what actually happened that day.
You know, the initial shock value of that psychological operation is wearing off.
People are getting a chance to see what really went on behind the scenes.
So I didn't really suffer much fallout at all.
You know, it was just, again, Regardless of how many people might write in, there's always going to be a few, you know, who will just personally attack you.
I experienced the same thing when I spoke out against marijuana laws.
You know, you have people saying that you're not a good role model, you know, that you're a proponent of drug use and everything else.
Yeah, but you go to a football game and there's liquor ads everywhere, which no doubt is bad for you, but then, you know, these guys with a whiskey bottle, how dare you be with that marijuana?
Yeah, again, people have blinders on with certain respect to the war on drugs, just like they do with 9-11.
So I just wanted to, again, for people in my hometown who might know who I am or what I stand for, at least they might know enough about me to know that I'm not just some guy spouting off, that I might be a guy who actually does have educated opinions.
I would just like to tell people that they should make a personal commitment in their life to continue to educate themselves on these issues.
You know, the easiest thing in the world It's just a pigeonhole something and write it off, put a label on it and say, I don't have to look into it any further.
You know, they'll just categorize it as something they don't want to know and then just move on.
That's the easiest thing to do.
And I say intellectually, that's a lazy thing to do.
I think people should take it upon themselves to have the initiative.
If you're going to disprove something, if you're going to write it off, at least look into it and have an educated opinion about it.
I know there's a lot of nonsense out there regarding any topic, including 9-11.
I would just tell people to look into anything they can, like some of the things I mentioned earlier.
Scholars from 9-11 Truth, any 9-11 Truth chapter.
Cities all over North America have their own separate 9-11 Truth factor.
We have a great one here in Toronto, Vancouver, British Columbia.
As well as Toronto and Ottawa, across Canada, just like in the States.
I mean, we see now in a Dutch newspaper talk of an attack on Iran as imminent.
I'm so glad to see that you're at the Democratic National Convention, because people seem to think that if we get a Democrat in office, there's going to be big changes.
But the Democratic Congress has already signed off on a preemptive nuclear attack against Iran.
Yeah, and again, we're not bashing either party, folks.
The point is that the corporates have taken over everything, and until we recognize that both parties have been taken over, we can never set about fixing the real problem if we're in that controlled paradigm.
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Let's go ahead and talk to Tim in New York.
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I'm involved in a situation here now where I'm experiencing my friend and girlfriend of 12 years is being soft killed as we speak.
She has a brother that's in the State Department.
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Well, sir, you need to put the names, the emails, the facts.
I need to confirm this happened.
I believe you, but I need to confirm it.
That's big news, so let me stop you.
So because she was a 9-11 truther, she's been stuck in a mental ward, and we're starting to see this happen like the old Soviet Union.
I'm going to get your name and number off air, and then we'll have you on as a guest if I can see some documents and confirm this.
But we have seen calls, it's in the new film Truth Rising, all the major cable channels saying, kill Alex Jones, put them in FEMA camps, they're terrorists, Taser 9-11 truthers, send them to Gitmo, and they're serious.
Mark Sipnosky, I mean, they're getting scared of us now.
Yeah, you know, whether it's Geraldo Rivera or Bill Maher or any of these guys who You are in a position where they have a show on corporate media and the only way they're going to continue to maintain their show is to spout the lies of the current administration, you know, the corporate party line.
Yeah, well, again, you know, it's, uh... I think Sinclair Lewis said, when fascism comes to America, it'll be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross.
I think, again, like we saw with Geraldo Rivera and like we saw with Bill Maher, there's going to have to continue, and we are change people who do it everywhere, there has to continue to be a breakthrough into mainstream media of 9-11 truth.
Again, it's become obvious that we're not going to have a top-down solution to this problem.
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Well, again, I would just, you know, for those of us in Canada, I would just like again to bring up the march that the 9-11 True Society of Vancouver has orchestrated.
It's already began.
It's going to culminate in Ottawa on September 15th, I believe, today there in Sudbury and Toronto, Ontario.
These 9-11 tutors have been traveling across the country to get petitions.
They're going to march from Montreal to Ottawa and arrive on September 11th.
With all the signatures that they get nationwide on this petition, and this is for a new 9-11 investigation in Canada, because what people forget is 9-11 was, it was obviously portrayed as an attack against America, but it was a worldwide crime.
There were citizens, I believe, from over 80 countries in the World Trade Center.
People appreciate someone who's willing to come forward.
I think as time goes on, people are realizing how sanitized and censored mainstream media is.
And whether somebody is a 9-11 truther who tells the truth, or a politician who's willing to give up the talking points and just, you know, speak truthfully, people appreciate that because it's so rare.
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Well, I'm trying to say it that way because I haven't had too much time to fully, constantly follow what you're doing, but every few months I see something you've said or done, and it seems diverse.
I don't want to say contradictory, and so by that I meant you can actually flesh it out for us.
You know, again, over the years, I know people's views change, too, and kind of go through changes, and so, I mean, tell us your view on the police state versus terrorism, kind of the whole New World Order, Henry.
Well, I think it's part and parcel with the Bush administration.
And I think a lot of it doesn't do anything to combat terrorism domestically or outside of America.
The fact that the Washington Post had to brief America that Homeland Security finds it okay to detain your electronic media, your laptop or anything, your iPod, when you come into an airport in America, a foreigner or an American citizen, and they can take your laptop or whatever and download the information, distribute the information to all the intelligence agencies at an off-site location, And hold on to that information and your computer or anything else for as long as they feel.
Enough Europeans complained that finally the Washington Post broke this story.
A lot of Americans, myself included, did not know that they could do that.
I don't know.
How taking my laptop away from me is going to stop the anger that is engendered by people in the world when we go into their countries and push them around.
And so checking my laptop or reading my email Or being able to tap my phones easily.
I don't know what that is, how that's going to help ease down terror in Saudi Arabia or, you know, anger felt in Egypt or Morocco.
And again, you know, this is just, if you're in the big business, If you really need the rails greased to get things going, and you don't want government in the way of pushing things through, and one of the ways you kind of clear the path is to scare the living hell out of people.
And when the going gets rough, the average get conservative, and that's the story of America.
And a lot of Americans who hate this country or can't stand that country, they get their information from Sean Hannity, yet they can't find All right, Henry Rollins, stay there.
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Hardcore punk, alternative rock, punk rock, heavy metal, noise rock, spoken word.
Musician, singer, songwriter, actor, stand-up comedian, author, and the list goes on and on.
Radio talk show host.
He is Henry Rollins.
We were getting into His views on the whole police state and what's happening, and we were going over the fact that having you line up and have them kidnap your laptop without a warrant, that's all part of setting a precedent that there is no Bill of Rights or Constitution and using the threat of terrorism as a pretext.
Henry, what do you think about government-sponsored terrorism like Gulf of Tonkin, or the Reichstag, or the USS Liberty, or the Maine Operation Gladio, Operation Cyclone, I mean, I'm not defending the Soviets, but it's been now declassified that the U.S.
actually funded the Muslims, Mujahideen, to attack the Russians first to get them to come into Afghanistan.
Zbigniew Brzezinski just published a book last year bragging about that.
I mean, your take basically on that whole angle of society.
It's why Kennedy got a bullet, because he's getting in the way of business.
He didn't want the Vietnam War, and so he had to die.
Gulf of Tonkin was our entrance into that conflict, because it's a payday.
So was Pearl Harbor.
It was our gateway into World War II, a payday.
And that's what we do.
That's what this country does.
We're the largest seller of arms in the world.
And now that the thing in Iraq has the threat of cooling down in 2011, the powers that be are reheating the Cold War so we can just keep fighting somebody.
Yeah, well, they just assume that no one has the internet, no one checks YouTube, that no one fax checks their stuff.
I mean, what these guys say, it's like they think no one's minding the store.
And I see why they think that, because you see CNN and MSNBC and certainly Fox News basically clearing the way for them.
Because corporate media also has a bottom line.
Money.
They do business.
And if you get in the way of business, You know, Paul Mullivan and other companies pull the rats, and Roger Ailes isn't going to have that, Rupert Murdoch isn't going to have that, and even the sissies over at CNN aren't going to have that.
And so I kind of like the Indiana Jones version of things, where you just kind of get in there and, you know, you walk through it and you see what happens.
And I do that in Central Asia, the Middle East, Southeast Asia, on my own every year.
I see it as an empire teetering on the brink of collapse, the dollar devalued, both parties incredibly decadent and delusional, the lies have never been more blatant.
I see that as a desperation move.
I mean, A, do you agree with that?
And B, where do you see the future of this nation?
But I'm optimistic in that I think America is going to have to hit a very hard bottom line.
I mean, we're going to have to fall on our collective butts very hard.
And it's like a cocaine addict.
It might take another million dollars worth of coke for this person to find out that coke is not the answer.
And so maybe another million foreclosures.
And finally, even Kudlow and company will have to admit that all is not well in America.
And so maybe that's what it's going to take.
Maybe it's going to take more countries in the world just basically starting embargoes on America.
Just like, no, you scare us.
We don't want to play with you anymore.
Maybe it'll take the whole world convening some kind of I don't know, but I do think that there's enough positive, progressive people in America who are into things like the reality of global warming, and the fact that we can pursue alternative fuel sources, that we don't have to drill ourselves out of every possible energy shortage.
And I think that will eventually prevail, because there will be no real way to sustain These fake wars.
I mean, the war in Iraq, the invasion and occupation of Iraq is quite unsustainable.
There's just not the money or the manpower.
I mean, I don't know where they're going to grow these people.
Yeah, well, I think you have a handful of crazy people.
You know, those who used to get laughed at in D.C.
Like, you know, the eight neoconservatives from back years ago.
People were like, look at those guys.
Look at that guy Wolfowitz.
What a trembling maniac that dude is.
well all of those guys and and you know they waited on the sidelines who a lot of the bush administration certainly through the clinton administration and they got their game together like project for new american century and all that they did not sleep they planned very well trembling maniac i'm stealing that it's all yours and and and and and and and they had their moment they jumped in and here we are with no money uh...
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My point is that you're somebody who loves liberty and freedom, You're speaking out against censorship of the web.
I'd like you to briefly talk about that before you leave us.
But then you talk about, you know, these hillbillies that want to attack a country but can't find it on a map and they want to Well, I think you should have a gun in your house if you want to defend your family.
I don't think any family, you or me, needs an assault weapon.
We have an armed population, and we have a tyrannical government as a check and a balance against them.
Well, I think you should have a gun in your house if you want to defend your family.
I don't think any family, you or me, needs an assault weapon.
If I was a policeman in your town, and I know I'm going up against people with bullets that can go through my door, through my body and through the body of my partner, and I am not given ceramic-plated body armor, which stops an AK-47 round.
I've got a real problem with that, and I don't think any citizen What are you going to shoot with a gun?
An intruder?
Yourself?
On a bad day?
Or maybe a deer?
Right?
You're not shooting Al Qaeda, so you don't need an AK-47.
Well, I mean, I see your point there, but here's another issue.
The sun has no spots on it, it's cooling down, the earth goes up and down in temperature.
I have no doubt we need cleaner fuels, that the oil companies are corrupt, but just to then say, well, we need a global tax to stop global warming, I've got a lot of issues with that.
I mean, when I go on tour now, I pay money to compensate for the carbon footprint my bus leaves.
And so, when I take my tour bus out on the road, I'm doing damage.
And so I compensate for that by, you know, sending money to this outfit my road manager hooked me up with, and we're going to be... Yeah, buying credits.
Malthus said that we're all going to die of starvation.
And the Industrial Revolution momentarily proved him to be wrong.
And now, as soon as you give more people more food, they breed more.
There's a lot going on with food systems in the world, and the unsustainability of soils, and the dangerousness of artificially produced nitrogen.
And the fact that we're breeding these animals so hard and so fast that, you know, they're mutating, and you're eating strange meat, and, you know, your E. coli is going zoonotic more than... Oh, I agree.
I was reading Jihad by Ahmed Rashid and the man sitting next to me called me in to Homeland Security and I was deemed a person of interest for reading a New York Times bestseller put out by the Yale University Press.
It's an interesting time we're living in.
I just bought that guy's new book too, Descent Into Chaos I think it's called.
Well, I think they're trying to regulate web speeds and accessibility.
I think the short of it is that the man is afraid of you having access to information, lest you start questioning his actions or maybe learning history so you're doomed not to repeat it.
And so I think that the net is wildly informative and they don't want that.
They want you to believe the bumper sticker like Boycott France or anything that comes from the mouth of Rover.
Or, you know, any of these Fox bastards.
And so it's just too much freedom for them to deal with.
Check it out there for when he's coming to your corner of the woods.
He goes everywhere, unless it's Antarctic.
Henry, let me say bye to you here in this break, and that's it for Henry Rollins.
We appreciate him joining us.
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Either you are with us or you are with the terrorists.
So we're going to set him up in November for a full hour.
And I said, yeah, I want to mail you some of my films.
Give me your address.
He goes, well, there's really no need of that, Alex.
I buy your films.
He goes, yeah, my favorite's Terror Storm.
He goes, yeah, I've seen the first Terror Storm, then I got some of your other videos, and then a girlfriend of mine, a friend of mine in Austin gave me the second edition, and I really like that one.
And the phone was ringing, he had to go to another radio interview, so next time we get Rollins on, we'll get a plug, an endorsement of my videos from him on air.
How many people have we reached?
It's all because of you, the listeners.
Hey, hey, Aaron, come on in here.
You don't know why you're being called in here.
Aaron, it's just incredible.
Why don't you pull up a chair here real fast?
I've got some audio clips I want to play and a bunch of other stuff.
You don't know why I'm dragging you in here.
But I want to recognize you, specifically, as the hardest working person in this office.
Uh, no, no, no, not today.
All the time.
And then there's Rob works hard.
Everybody works hard.
I mean, Trey works hard.
But, you know, down that line, uh, the people at this office particularly, we have two offices.
We're about to get rid of this one.
But we're building the other studio, the TV studio.
It's infuriating that we have all these great tapes and they just go stale.
So you're like, get them up, get them up, get them up.
And all the cool people we met and all the interesting things they said.
And then on top of it, this whole Malkin incident and how they just lie and say that you said things like, kill Michelle Malkin, which is utterly ridiculous, completely untrue.
And we proved it now with angle after angle.
And Malkin with her internment camps, I couldn't believe how many times I've said that.
So, see, the real hoax isn't, you know, who shoved first or who shouted, killed Michelle Malkin, because we know that.
It's a guy in a green shirt.
We don't know his name, but we can see him from multiple video angles.
The real hoax is that Michelle Malkin is supposed to be this cute little woman, and, you know, she's always preaching not to go off of, you know, diversity and not to judge You know, based on race and stuff.
Well, this crowd is going off the fact she's a woman, yet she's pitching these horrible ideas of internment camp, defending murder of puppies, when nobody cares about dead Iraqi children, dead Iraqi adults.
And that's not just something you shouted at her in the crowd, as though free speech wasn't your right, as though you're not supposed to confront horrible, monstrous ideas.
But on YouTube, there's just endless clips, hours and hours of her pitching her book, The Case for Internment, and paralleling it with the Japanese internment.
And now arresting whole groups of Americans, whole races, whole religions.
Criticize the government, go to a camp, and then I'm not supposed to say, I don't like you pushing me to go in a camp when it's clearly a talking point?
Uh, well, we did our best to compile all our video angles as well as some of the YouTube angles, uh, so you can really see what's going on, who's shouting what.
Uh, you can see Alex comes up, you know, he's, he's, uh, challenging her ideas, but he's using an even tone.
Yeah, and you know, the thing about editing is you watch these moments, moment by moment.
And the moment she decides to walk away and end the friendly conversations, when you call out Cheney and his terror thing, Cheney's, uh, government-sponsored terror.
9-11 Truth is, uh, you know, it's cuckoo stuff, but You know, Cheney having meetings about shooting Navy SEALs to start a war with Iran, that's, you know...
Yeah, there was a whole constellation, or pilot fish, following the, you know, the main wart.
And then you had some local blogs who were affiliated with the guys dressed up like jesters who ran up, hey, we're with Alex Jones, and later are yelling, F Alex Jones, and then are friends with Malcolm's people.
So, so that's the point is that, is he, first I said kill Michelle Malkin, now I've proven I didn't say it, but now it will prove they're not with you.
uh... i was told by some of the other locals that they are allied neocon bloggers uh... who are allied with little green footballs looking at the left pajamas media and certainly that's true of the photographer he goes by the name uh... and he's the guy who sees them say killer he goes to cops and says Alex Jones is saying and he was following us again the next day looking at the left dot com yeah because he has when we were photographing him running to the police he has pictures of us running after him and
We were just trying to find out why he's following us and why he's telling lies.
Trying to set up to the police.
We have on tape another 9-11 truther filmed him setting up Alex Jones to the police.
it's really arrogant because we have him on video these guys in the green shirt and his buddy saying kill michelle malkin while you're trying to have a conversation with malkin about her internment camps it's just it's outrageous now you've done a masterful job uh these are not just our cameras other people's youtube cameras they're i mean we are showing you in the next few days if you get some rest we'll do a part two is There's so much you couldn't put it all in ten minutes.
We want to keep it down to one bite of ten minutes.
But there's a bunch of stuff going up for members.
The Tom Morello interview, the interview with Jerome Corsi, really powerful stuff at the DNC, Cindy Sheehan.
A bunch of other exclusives for Prison Planet.
TV members, don't forget the new film Fabled Enemies is out.
And I've noticed since we crossed this line with Fabled Enemies, to really criticize the intelligence agencies that were involved, I'm noticing the heat is just, it's like somebody flipped a switch.
Well, the video, for those out there, it is Kill Michelle Malkin Hoax Exposed.
I need your help getting this video out to everyone because this is definitive.
This goes through all of it.
This shows you what's happening.
It details it.
It's up on InfoWars.com and PrisonPlanet.com right now.
But the good news is Liberal, conservative, libertarian, every big wig I talk to, former German defense ministers, former Italian presidents, members of the Japanese government, Hollywood people.
It doesn't matter who it is I run into.
Rage Against the Machine, you know, mainline neighbors down the street, people at church, they all know the government's criminal and out of control, and the lies and fraud you've been selling aren't working anymore.
By the way, this video also gets into Her past statements.
And I mean, she thought that arrogant hate of us and dismissing us like we were just grovel and quail, like shrinking violets, you know, at her not liking us.
Hey, we don't care, witch.
We don't care what you and your punk Homeland Security employees do.
We're gonna expose you, we're gonna discredit you, because you need to be exposed and discredited for the monster pig you are.
That video's up there.
I want all of you to get it and rhyme it down everybody's throats.
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I was just informed of this by Richard Reeves, who's been driving us on some of our trips, doing a great job, our navigator and driver.
He is up in Minnesota with George Butler.
And, uh, they have been, uh, they're reporting on it, uh, for Genesis.
And so they can, uh, basically tell us what is going on there.
But I want to finish the song out.
Jerry Reed just died.
I want to play that, um, the, uh, end of the song about, uh, old Smokey's got his ears on, and he's hot on your trail, and he ain't gonna rest till you're in jail.
I'll tell you what was inspirational, Richard, was the fact that Jesse Ventura wouldn't shut up and talk about 9-11.
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And C-SPAN's been carrying it all live on C-SPAN 2.
That's a big victory right there.
All of this is about growing the Movement of Liberty, waking people up, and I'm just so glad that Ron Paul was able to make it with Carol in such dire straits.
We're going to come back in about 60 seconds for five more minutes with Richard Reeves and George Butler.
They're there co-hosting live radio shows for Genesis and live feeds there and doing a fabulous job.
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Then I've got an expert joining us from Germany about the situation between the United States and Russia.