Alex Jones and Austin Police Chief Art Acevedo debate transparency, federal technology grants, and immigration enforcement, with Acevedo rejecting sanctuary city labels while warning against eroding community trust. The conversation shifts to Gardasil vaccine safety, citing 9,749 VAERS adverse reactions and 21 deaths since 2006, though officials dismiss these as anecdotal without proven causation. Jones counters with claims of mercury harm and fluoride cancer risks, juxtaposed against studies suggesting vaccines improve behavior. Ultimately, the episode explores tensions between government authority, public health data interpretation, and the broader implications of controlling populations through medical mandates or social engineering. [Automatically generated summary]
Well, it's great to have you in studio with us today.
Just out of the gate, instead of reading your lengthy bio, tell us a little bit about yourself, because this is an international audience, obviously, not just in Austin.
I'm a proud father of three kids, a 19-year-old, a 16-year-old, and a 4-month-old.
I was born in Havana, Cuba.
I migrated to the United States.
One of the lucky ones, I got out of Cuba in 1968.
I always wanted to be a cop, became a cop, loved being a cop, and I did it out of a desire to really serve.
I love people.
I think being a cop is really about dealing with people, and if you can deal with people who have people skills, you can be very successful at policing.
No, no, listen, listen, we have always wanted a relationship with the police.
You know, I don't like the fact, and I've probably been bad in the past, bashing police too much, and that kind of compacts police into their own little culture, instead of having the public and the police interface.
And I know that since you've gotten in, you've done a lot of things I've actually really agreed with, some things I've disagreed with, and really have been interfacing with the media, the public.
I mean, you've got to be the hardest working police chief I've ever seen living in Austin for the last 18 years.
Well, my philosophy, I think, is transparency and accountability are the two most important things to me.
If we're transparent, I really believe we have a pretty darn good department, so why not be transparent?
And why not put the good, the bad, and the ugly out there?
Because by doing that, people start realizing that we have nothing to hide and they can actually trust us.
And I think in the past we really haven't engaged as an organization, the community, the media, your critics.
Some people run away from activists, I actually run towards them, because I want to know what they have to say and I want them to know what I feel, what I believe, so at least we can have that mutual respect.
Well, you know, you're talking about the Kevin Brown shooting.
That was a tragic event for everybody involved, including the sergeant who was fired.
But the reality is, we've got to call them as we see them.
I know the community likes some of the calls.
They'll dislike some of the calls.
But I think if people know your heart and they know that you actually care and that you're trying to do the right thing, they may not agree with you, but at least they'll respect the fact that you're trying and that your heart's in the right place, which is important.
And you've done some other things that have been good.
And I've been happy to see police and the union not attacking you as much because they understand that if they don't clean house, it's just going to be downhill.
The reality is we don't have that much cleaning to do.
The majority of our cops are really hard-working, dedicated professionals, but it doesn't take more than one or two or three or a handful to really diminish the excellence and destroy the excellence in the bridges that we're building.
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You know, I'm surprised that you didn't bring a whole entourage with you.
Because other awesome police chiefs I've noticed would normally have an entourage, and then guys out in the parking lot.
I've worked at a few of the radio stations doing my show out of there, and the police chiefs would be coming on other shows sometimes, and you'd see guys in the parking lot looking around.
I brought Ana Sabam, she's our public information manager, and I think that it's important for her to meet the folks out here in the media so you can have a relationship with our office.
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Plate scanning.
They've announced all over the country, the Feds have put in these license plate reading cameras.
Police cars are getting them.
It's all part of this larger NORTHCOM grid.
You have the emergency management centers.
Where they're bringing in the National Guard, threat assessment, threat matrix systems, this whole NORTHCOM grid.
The last police you've actually interviewed in person was the police chief of San Antonio, Allie Philippus, when Delta Force tried to bribe him and ended up in the paper to run covert operations in the city.
Well, I think any technology, it's not the technology that is bad or evil or anything else, it's how you use it.
License plate readers are a good tool when you're looking for, on an AMBER Alert, a partial plate on a kid that's been kidnapped, you can actually program that system.
Let's say it's 123 SAM, and all you have is 123, and it'll spit out any car, it'll identify, here's a car that you're looking for.
So, it helps us in terms of finding wanted vehicles and recovering stolen cars.
With that said, if we bring it here, it's solely for our local law enforcement use and nothing else.
I'm always hearing about our police being sent to Israel, or Israel coming over here, or our police being sent to Japan, to Tokyo, and then their officers can come over here and pick people up.
Well, what these are, some of those programs, actually exchange programs, where you actually go and look at some of their tactics in terms of security.
I actually went on one myself where basically it was a tour of their facilities and just to learn from their experiences in terms of terrorism and things of that nature, but we have not had any delegation here that I'm aware of.
I've got a film I made six years ago, so you may not be aware of the specifics of what I'm talking about, but I'm sure you are.
The programs where the Austin police enroll the children with a $200 discount credit card, and they get the $200 for turning people in, reporting on drugs, crime, but they also tell them to go home and what's in the medicine cabinet.
Well, what I'm going to do is we're going to go over this interview, and in a few months, I know you're a busy man, I'd like to have you back in.
And I will have all the documents on each issue, and I will play the video of the Austin TV ad that they show inside the schools, where it told the kids, you know, you're going to get $200 for whoever you turn in.
You're going to report on people.
And then they have the children write essays about what's going on in their home life.
Like I said, what happened back then I can't attest to, but I can tell you that we don't have a program like that today, and I would not be in favor of a program like that.
What's happened, Alex, that a lot of folks, if they refuse a blood test, okay, that we need to get that evidence, a lot of hospitals don't want to take the blood for the department without a consent from the suspect because they don't want the liability.
The Travis County Sheriff's Department is now talking to us that their nurses aren't going to draw blood for us anymore.
They don't want their nurses to have to go to court and be tied up.
So what's happened is we've got to look at how can we get evidence that we need of a crime that's been committed.
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I got intimidated by police that have been given federally paid for Darth Vader uniforms that aren't wearing badges.
And you were talking earlier about seeing video of me on the web or TV or something where I'm going up to the police downtown who are in their riot gear and I'm just wanting to see their badges.
I mean, now they're wearing the old-fashioned, nice, fancy, respectable uniforms, not like goon outfits, and they're driving black and whites, and you've got their badge numbers and a big badge.
And a big badge, so there's no doubt, and it's not a generic badge, and you know what?
We've got some good police officers, they deserve better, and I think they deserve, they earn this privilege, because wearing this uniform, wearing this badge is a privilege they have to earn every day they come to work, and I think they've earned the privilege of wearing a unique symbol.
And I want our citizens to know when they see a black and white that that's a police car, it's an Austin police car, and we're out there taking care of them.
Alright, going back to the blood issue, you guys can say, well, this is nothing new, we're getting a warrant.
In Illinois, Indiana, and in some areas of Texas, I've read that the police are taking it at night, out at the side of a road at a checkpoint, and that a lot of lawyers, and I've had the head of the Texas Bar on, are saying these aren't really real warrants that some of the cities have.
It's a blank check warrant that basically the judges, just whatever's called in, are running with.
Now, I haven't seen that claim with Austin, but still, there are concerns here about people who are hemophiliacs, people who are diabetics.
I mean, I've had blood taken for insurance or whatever, and the nurse can't seem to find it herself, much less some cop at the side of the road.
But it is to train a handful of police officers as phlebotomists, that in an instance where we arrest somebody for driving under the influence, especially when they've killed somebody, or seriously injured or maimed somebody.
Remember that we've killed almost 2,000 Texans a year with drunk driving.
We're the hardest drinking city according to Forbes.
Oh yeah, and so Alex, I see you're a father, I'm a father, we're out here driving on these streets and these roadways and there is carnage going on and this is nothing more than using a lawful, and it will only be done in a lawful manner, in a sanitary condition, in a secure location, with some checks and balances.
They shut down all of 35 from Kyle out to Round Rock, literally cars going one mile an hour with police shining lights in people's eyes under a federal grant.
Why would the feds want to give us this money that we've already paid foreign taxes to do that?
But the reality is, look, we have a responsibility to keep people alive, and we have a responsibility that when somebody kills somebody out there, seriously injures somebody, to hold them accountable.
And I don't want people to think You've got to realize where I started my life.
I started my life in a communist dictatorship, and I hope you don't say you like Fidel Castro, because those are fighting words with Cubans, okay?
Sheriffs, police chiefs, all over the country have said that they pull over a van, say with 15 illegal aliens in it, none of them have IDs, none of them have insurance, some of them are drunk, they pick them up, they take them in, ICE won't pick them up, the judges in the city say, $50 fines, we don't have any ID, we're letting them go.
The famous railway serial killer killed a bunch of people, been going around for years, couldn't be caught.
You talk about tracking things and having accountability.
Citizens are having their plates scanned, face scanned, controlled, police everywhere, children spying on us in the schools.
But then meanwhile, I know for a fact in Austin, Texas, and I've had a bunch of Austin police tell me this, and it happened.
One night I pulled up, At this office, and I see two police cars and the lights going about a year and a half ago, and I walk up and my IT guy, who's actually a contractor, is in handcuffs.
He goes, oh yeah, my license expired.
I haven't got it renewed.
And they said, yep, we're just having to arrest him.
And I said, and it turned out the cops kind of bowled up when I first pulled up.
And they said, oh, Alex Jones, how you doing?
We're fans of the show.
But then they went ahead and said, no, we've got to arrest him.
And I said, but if he was an illegal alien, you probably wouldn't.
And he says, you know what?
They just let him go and we're not encouraged to do it.
And Austin's a sanctuary city.
So what do you say to that, claiming drunk drivers, when statistically, you talk about Austin being hard-drinking.
We know folks from south of the border are hard-drinking too, just like Texans.
What do you do when you don't know who somebody is, and there's been a stabbing, and you've got three witnesses, and it's hard to prosecute, because nobody knows who these people are?
And also, then that victimizes these communities, because they're lawless.
First of all, immigration control starts at the border.
You've got to secure your borders.
I think that most major city chiefs, that is actually a policy position of major city chiefs here in the country, is that we've got to secure our borders.
The second part, though, is that we have to be serious about it, because here's the unintended consequence.
If I become, actually it's an unfounded mandate for me to be doing ICE's work or immigration's work.
But here's the problem.
If there is a revolving door where three days after you get them, if we became an arm of immigration, they're going to be right back.
What can happen is that we lose the trust of that community that's going to be here, and we lose witnesses, we lose victims, and we all lose.
I have friends that work for the federal government in California, in Southern California, that used to be frustrated that they'd take people down on the bus And the joke was that the people that were deported beat the bus back to downtown L.A.
Well, again, our official position here is that if you break the law, if you violate the law, we're going to treat you the same, whether you're legal or illegal, you're going to go to jail.
I mean, yeah, but the police are encouraged to go out and write tickets and generate revenue on the almost broke-back city, even though we're a wealthy city.
But meanwhile, you see, I mean, look, let's be honest, Chief.
You know and I know there's a double standard.
There's a double standard to 867 sanctuary cities, and Austin is on the map as one of the worst in the country after L.A., Denver, Chicago.
We've got a Mexican consulate, our mission here, which hands out these Cracker Jack... The consular matricula.
Well, it is a challenge, but you know, the problem for us as police officers at a local level is policing a community that we know is here and policing a community that, you know, we don't control the borders.
We have to control what's in our city.
And I think some of the frustration is that the reality is the way that you deal with immigration is you dry up jobs, you dry up some of those opportunities, people wouldn't come here illegally.
To me, if you're going to get serious, that's where you start, is with employers.
I was sitting there with my hand wrapped up with it hanging by a piece of skin, and my dad, who's a physician there, saying he needs to get this attached fast.
I've called him.
He drove down.
And I'm sitting there, but it wasn't just that.
It was poor people.
It was a Sunday full of poor people who were so poor they don't have insurance and then about half of them were, you know, because I was watching, they'd go up and they'd say, do you have insurance?
Do you have ID?
No.
Well, who are you?
And because they knew that they weren't going to have insurance but they needed to provide care, which I'm saying is good, they went right through.
My point is the country is breaking down and we need to not give third world populations special status or it's going to destroy this country.
Remember now, the job of immigration enforcement lies primarily with the federal government.
It's their job.
We have people here that keep arguing we shouldn't arrest people that are committing burglaries, we can't keep the burglars, the rapists, all these other folks in jail because there's no jail space.
If ICE isn't going to pick them up, then it kind of defeats the purpose of thinking if that's the only reason you're taking them there for it.
But here's our challenge.
The unintended consequences, if you have 10 million people here illegally, that you know if they get deported, they're going to probably be back within a few days because you know they know the routes, they know how to come back.
We lose potentially 10 million witnesses to crime, 10 million.
One of our kids gets kidnapped at the bus stop, and the little old lady that's the child care attendant for somebody that they hired... Now they're afraid to call the local cop, and they might be... The ambulance system actually works, I think you know that.
You can't get crazy with that because it waters it down, people lose interest and it loses its effectiveness.
But that's one of the unintended consequences.
Becoming afraid of calling the cops.
The cops aren't going to take enforcement action against somebody the next time they victimize somebody.
It may be you or me or someone else.
So it has to be a comprehensive approach that starts with securing our border, making sure that people can only get jobs if they're here legally or serious about it.
But it really is a federal issue that they've got to be the ones that take the lead on it.
Well, Chief Acevedo, I agree with a lot of what you're saying about how it should be federal, about how it should be enforced against employers.
It's very hypocritical to arrest these immigrants and treat them bad.
And believe me, I know how bad Mexico is.
In Mexico City, 30 million people, half of them living in cardboard boxes.
It's hell on earth.
The problem is this country is like a lifeboat that will pull the boat completely down if we just say unlimited and the crime and then give them a double standard.
And I understand this rationale, but the road to hell is paved with good intentions.
And to just say we have to have this interface with the community and so we have to go with kid gloves.
I'm saying there's not kid gloves with me because I'm seen as the big fat milk cow.
I'm seen as the dumb American driving around in their SUV.
If I get involved and just start asking people for your papers solely for the reason to see if they're here legally or not, and they get deported and three days later they're back, And now that same person in the future sees a crime as a victim of crime and they will no longer want to cooperate with me.
I think there should be an amnesty in that if someone comes in to report a crime, it's policy and it's advertised that if you come in seeing a stabbing or a shooting or a robbery... That's a new visa.
The Austin cops have told me, and I've sat around at bars and restaurants with them, I've got friends that are cops, I've worked out with cops, and they go, yeah, we're basically told and encouraged, we get in trouble, we get, you know, start getting demerits for other issues if we drag in a bunch of illegal aliens, and it's wrong, it's wrong!
Cops sometimes talk out of school a lot, where they'll start telling you, and they're talking stories, they're talking shop, and you gotta take sometimes... Oh, now we can't believe the cops!
You're mentioning bars, you're mentioning drinks, you know, next thing you know they got the biggest fish that they caught when they went fishing.
You gotta take it with a little grain of salt when you're telling stories because there's a lot of urban legends and myths and everything else that goes into it.
But the reality is, we will not, when my cop makes an unlawful arrest, I don't care if the person is legal or illegal, our position is we expect them to take the proper enforcement action, irregardless of the person's status.
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Police Chief Art Acevedo is our guest for this segment and one more.
We're really honored to have him with us.
During the break we were having a really animated discussion.
I said, hey, what I don't want is what you grew up in, in Cuba, what you fought to leave.
And we're glad to have people who love freedom in this country.
And our arms are totally open to that.
And we need people that have experienced tyranny so they can fight against it here.
But having children spy on their parents, it always starts out, oh, for drugs, or if you're being abused, or if you're this or you're that.
I mean, I've gone and I've seen the abuses.
I've seen CPS snatch people's babies and then lie on the forums because I was there and take them for adoption.
I know that the system's gotten predatory and I'm sure you're a nice guy and a good guy and a smart guy and you see the good in what's happening.
I see a lot of the bad and I know that we're becoming more like a Cuba, more like a Soviet Union, more like East Germany, with the spying, the control, all of this, and it isn't for our security.
I read the RAND Corporation documents.
I know how they're federalizing departments.
I know the larger plan.
They've got a lot of guys like you, who are well-meaning, plus their butts, trying to protect people, and a lot of good's done.
But overall, the federal state's growing.
The control's growing.
So, I'd like you to speak to that, Chief, and we appreciate you graciously coming in and being interrogated.
Your allegiance stands with the state and the city, doesn't it?
I mean, your allegiance stands with the Bill of Rights Constitution?
That being that when we take our oath of office, we take an oath to the Constitution of the United States, the Constitution of Texas, and my job is really, my number one concern is the welfare and the safety of the people that live, visit, and work in Austin.
I mean, expanding on that though, we were privately talking about, you know, you're saying you don't want America to be a police state, you're saying you don't want it to be like Cuba.
Well, I think that you have to, you don't ever want to be in a situation where, in Cuba, they want to know what your parents were thinking.
What is their train of thought?
Do they speak out against the government?
We never want to be in that kind of place because, my father used to tell us when we got to this country, from here to the moon, there's no better place on earth and I would hope that... Now look at you now!
Well, and you know, that's why I love this country.
I mean, it's the best country.
With all of our wards and everything, there's no other place I'd rather live than the United States of America.
It's the greatest place on earth, and I'm hoping to... I agree, but I want to defend what it is.
I mean, America is the Bill of Rights, Constitution, Declaration of Independence, and, you know, we're having our liberties taken, and there's always these good reasons, there's always these excuses, you know, there's always... I was talking to you during the break about the Tenth Amendment, and you were saying, well, the Civil War decided that.
Well, yeah, and then Reconstruction decided that, but I mean, is there no end to the federal power?
Well, you know, again, you're talking about the police chief here in Austin, Texas.
I try to keep my focus on my local issues.
I don't have anybody in the federal government dictating to me how to police this city, and the bottom line is that I work for the city leaders and for the people of the city of Austin, and my allegiance is obviously to my city and my country.
One of them was a huge terror attack somewhere in the United States and they said that we have to implement PDD 51, basically making the president a dictator.
What would you do then if they told you, you know, gave you a list, and they have these, it's been in the Houston Chronicle now, of 3,000 Austinites to be picked up and Alex Jones is on there.
And there's no judge, no jury, no indictment, no grand jury, it's just go pick up Alex Jones.
So, the bottom line is just remember, we are a local police department, we are a separate entity, and we will operate based upon what our own city statutes are and our requirements are.
But we know that they've trained the police to drive the buses and pick up people during riots, and we know they have the emergency center out at the old airport, the overflow center.
Is that still there with the bolts and chains on the floor?
Well, I have been interrogating I have been interrogating him, and I'd like to give him the last five minutes off Austin Police Chief Art Acevedo to talk about whatever he thinks is most important.
To get out any websites or any points he's making.
I would like to see other police chiefs across the country.
We're on in Chicago, LA, San Diego, Kansas City, other places.
If you want to come on this show, you are welcome.
We'd love to hear from you here as well, because one thing that will fight tyranny is the people truly being involved in their government and being friends with the police, but not in a spy way, but in the way you're doing it.
Well, yeah, and I think familiarity breeds trust and respect, and the reality is at least we know each other's positions and we don't have to agree on everything, but we can agree to disagree.
It And it starts with kids not graduating from school.
We're doing our little share here.
I would hope that your listeners would know that we're having a Police Activities League lock-up towards the end of the month here.
They can go to our website at the Police Department and please support our Explorer program where kids can learn about being police officers, what that field is like.
But the reality is, we have got to invest in kids, Alex.
You know that the kids are our future.
We've got a lot of kids that their parents are working, nobody's ever around, they have no adult supervision, and in the Austin Police Department, through our Explorer Program and our Police Activities League, we want to make a difference in kids' lives, and I hope your listeners will contact us to help donate funds, and more importantly, maybe even help volunteer.
We have 60% on average people coming out for presidential elections, but 8% local elections nationally on average.
We need to get that up to 80% locally, and if good people get involved in government, We're going to end up having the police chiefs, and the mayors, and the sheriffs, and then it's going to be our government.
We have handed over our responsibility, turned it over to the feds, and I've told the listeners, that is the responsibility.
If the people get involved and you know you're a good person, then that'll block the control freaks that are trying to get involved in government.
We've let all the control freaks take over the government.
And again, this Sunday, 4 to 6 p.m., we're going to be rearing this on the syndicated show we do at a KLBJ.
In the time we've got to close, I just want to pick your brain about this, because I looked it up and found out that police are dialing into Nexus Lexus databases and these threat databases, my friend, My dad, I sold him one of my cars, and he was driving back from our East Texas ranch a few weeks ago at night at about 10 o'clock.
He gets pulled over and the cops wait back and they come over and they say, you're not Alex Jones.
And this came up as Handle With Care, and I heard two legislatures ago, four years ago, that they wanted a database of you said things about police, what your view was of police.
I have never had a database that, I haven't encountered that database yet.
I mean, does it exist?
To my knowledge, it doesn't.
But the reality is, we here in Austin, our activists are actually pretty peaceful activists.
I don't think that anybody's ever died from wards, unless you've incited riots or something, getting people to kill people.
We don't want that.
We definitely don't want that.
I don't know if you know this, but our crowd control team, the Darth Vader office, just remember, if it looks tough and at least we can get people to demonstrate, exercise their First Amendment rights without getting violent, I think we've won.
I mean, their organizational model is protect the first.
Oh, I think they have, remember Weekend at Bernie's?
I think that's the character.
I think he's been dead for about a year.
Hopefully he is.
But the reality is, our primary Focus and mission when we're trying to find out what's going on with with a with a Demonstration is not to stop the demonstration.
It's not to prohibit you or get in your way from exercising first-amendment rights It's to make sure we don't have somebody come in get in the middle of a bunch of peaceful Protesters and next thing you know they start throwing things at the cops and and things get ugly.
That is the Austin Police Chief leaving us, and we're going to go ahead and play the CNN piece about the HPV shots killing people that your young girls are taking.
We told you a year ago it was killing you, now here it is on CNN.
We know how to read the drug reports, you know, off their own website, and we have doctors and scientists and epidemiologists on, so here's a little three-minute clip on that.
And then, John, come in with the other clip with Walter Cronkite saying he loves the devil.
And then we'll, yeah, it's Walter Cronkite says he's a Satan worshipper.
I'm not kidding.
We're going to go ahead and play Who the Feds Are.
And then, I'm not kidding, Chief.
You can listen to it right now.
And then we're going to go to the presidential candidate, Chuck Baldwin.
Here we go.
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Taqueria Williams doesn't get to act like a kid anymore.
But Taqueria's mother says everything changed last December after her daughter received Gardasil, a vaccine that prevents 70% of cervical cancer.
She's never been sick.
She's never been in a hospital.
Nothing.
Until the Gardasil shot.
Two months after getting the shot, Taqueria says she got a rash on her face and arms, leaving these scars.
She had swelling all over, pain in her joints, and poor circulation in her fingertips.
Her doctor told us she now suffers from an autoimmune disease and says it is possible the Gardasil triggered her illness, though she made it clear the cause cannot be proven.
According to a federal tracking system called VAERS, there have been 9,749 adverse reactions following the vaccination.
And 21 reported deaths since 2006.
I chose to get my daughter vaccinated.
But Merck, Gardasil's maker, points out these are anecdotal cases.
In a statement, company officials say it, quote, does not necessarily mean that the vaccine caused or contributed to the event.
An official with the Centers for Disease Control says VAERS does not provide enough information for researchers to prove whether Gardasil caused any of the reported side effects.
We want to have better data to reassure people.
But again, the patterns and number of serious events looked at in VAERS do not suggest any increase in risk.
Well, the CDC believes We are in process of developing a whole series of techniques which will enable the controlling oligarchy to get people actually to love their servitude.
People can be made to enjoy a state of affairs which, by any decent standard, they ought not to enjoy.