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alex jones ▲ ● ▼		The generals are gathered in their black masses.
unidentified		generals are gathered in their black masses.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		The armies are massed.
unidentified		Generals gathered in their masses Just like witches at black masses Evil minds that plot destruction
unidentified		Sorcerer of death's construction In the fields the bodies burning As the war machine keeps turning Death and hatred to mankind Poisoning their brainwashed minds
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And that is exactly what is going on, ladies and gentlemen.
		Started the broadcast the first time in many years with a different intro.
		Welcome to the darkest waters the world has ever seen.
		And the politicians are hiding themselves away.
		The Democrats are.
		They only started the wars.
unidentified		Politicians hide themselves away.
		They only started the war.
		Why should they go out to fight?
		They leave their own to the poor.
		Yeah. We are live.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		It is Friday.
		We are locked and loaded.
		In the Infowar.
unidentified		Time will tell them their power minds.
		Making war just for fun.
		Treating people just like pawns and chess.
		Wait till their judgment day comes.
		Yeah. Yeah.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Treating people just like pawns and chess.
unidentified		Wait till their judgment day comes.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		They're poisoned, brainwashed minds.
unidentified		Sorcerers of death's construction.
		Everybody listening.
		This is a very important broadcast today.
		Stand by for vital information.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		After we go to this break.
		This information is so important.
		I just can't come right into the start of the show and calmly report on it.
		I need to point out this is important, this is special, and this needs to explode across the internet and out of cyberspace and into the third dimension, into the plane of existence we all live in.
		It needs to manifest around the water cooler and your churches In your homes, in the streets, from the hills, the mountains, in the valleys.
		And we will cover it after this break.
unidentified		darkness, world stops turning.
		Ashes where the body's burning.
		No more war pigs of the power.
		And I've got to struck the hour.
		Day of judgment, God is calling.
		Underneath the war pigs crawling.
		Begging mercies for the sins.
		Satan laughing spreads his wings.
		Oh, Lord, yeah.
		music
		It is a big idea.
		A new world order.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		In the near future, Earth is dominated by a powerful world government.
unidentified		It's known as the Bilderberg Group.
unidentified		Couldn't their objective be world domination?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		For thousands of years, their dark order grew.
		Now, as they hail the birth of the New World Order, their great dream of exterminating 80% of humanity is at hand.
		For the first time in history, the elite's plan for world government is blown wide open.
		You will learn the secret that drives the entire New World Order agenda.
unidentified		Bill Perry is making great progress toward the world government.
		Most people have no idea.
		They're not after money.
		They have all the money they need.
		They're after power.
		That's their apodhesia.
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unidentified		Big Brother.
		Mainstream media.
		Government cover-ups.
		You want answers?
		Well, so does he.
		He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
		And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Music The news I'm about to cover broke on the Internet yesterday as we were ending the broadcast.
		I did briefly cover it then.
		I will now, for the next hour, cover it in great detail.
		Then, veteran prosecutor of the Manson family and many others, Vincent Bugliosi, will join us for a full hour.
		In the second hour, Dr. Nick Begich talking about his brother running for Senate against indicted Senator Stevens.
		And then for a full hour, to take your phone calls on the economy and the future of it, Bob Chapman on this Friday edition.
		We'll have open phones with all three of our guests today.
		All right, let me go ahead and get into the most important news we've seen a very long time.
		A key break in the 9-11 investigation, but not just the 9-11 investigation, in the history of false flag, state-sponsored, self-inflicted wounds.
		This is vital information.
		I need everyone to go to InfoWars.com and get the report done by Kurt Nemo.
		The original report broke on the web yesterday via ThinkProgress, excellent news source, but Kurt Nemo went through and gave some of the background history to show just how important this information is.
		Now, Let me, before I cover the latest information concerning this new story, from one of the best sources out there in mainstream news, the greatest living investigative journalist, he is heralded universally as the greatest living investigative journalist, Cy Hirsch.
		And John, cue that audio up from yesterday.
		I want to play the full clip.
		But before I do that, it is incontrovertible fact that there are more than 200 declassified, publicly available examples of criminal elements.
		I want to be clear, not the entire government, but a tiny faction at the top, staging more than 200 terror attacks and provocateur actions.
		Some of the oldest declassified examples on CIA.gov are Operation Ajax in 1953, where the CIA, led by Black Ops Commander Kermit Roosevelt and Norman Schwarzkopf's father,
		General Schwarzkopf's father, and British intelligence MI6, led a team in a one-year program to overthrow the elected pro-West anti-communist government of Mohammed Mosaddegh, who was secular.
		They couldn't allow that.
		Very advanced civilization.
		They don't want that.
		They came in with radical Muslims as their shock troops to then back-putting in to power the princeling, the Shah of Iran, and they turned around and stabbed the Muslims they used to come to power in the back.
		They staged terror attacks all over the country, blowing up mosques, bombing schools, shooting police and military, and handing out hundreds of thousands of handbills saying that Mohammed Mosaddegh had done it.
		In fact, it was Mohammed Mosaddegh claiming responsibility for it.
		There, of course, is the Gulf of Tonkin, a staged event.
		Claiming the ships were shot at to get us into Vietnam, now totally declassified.
		USS Liberty, now declassified, as we had always told you with all the eyewitnesses and the admirals and the judge advocate generals and the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.
		I had them all on over the years.
		Most of them are dead, but the audio of them is posted on InfoWars.com and PrisonPlanet.com.
		Admiral Moore died in 2004.
		We interviewed him for the fifth time, weeks before he died.
		Ward Boston's still alive.
		He was the judge advocate captain.
		Who then became Judge Advocate General, head of the Navy later, who was charged with the whitewash and cover-up of what happened.
		Total eyewitness, telling you on air.
		The captain before he died, we interviewed many years ago.
		The doctor, the first mates, many of them still alive.
		I've interviewed more than 50 people involved in and around the USS Liberty.
		Now declassified, Chicago Tribune, on a premeditated attack by Israel.
		Working with LBJ to try to sink the ship, who blocked aid to the ship as it was under attack for two and a half hours, by Descente Misery bombers, Mirage fighter-bombers, torpedo boats, helicopters.
		The most highly decorated ship in United States naval history.
		They were told they would be killed if they told any of the public About what really happened with the attack, and I've had multiple eyewitnesses on this show, where the Admiral, who was told by LBJ to turn the jets back and not aid them, when they kept the ship afloat, and then when Russian intelligence ship pulled up and began photographing and filming it, the Israeli commando helicopters were forced to break off, going on board the ship in hand-to-hand combat and killing everyone aboard, and then blowing the bottom of the ship out and sending it to the bottom.
		Because they followed procedures and locked down all the bulkheads.
		Some men went into rooms on fire to close bulkheads.
		The ship would have gone to the bottom.
		A 30 plus foot hole was blown on the side by one of the torpedoes.
		But again, I already digress.
		I'm just giving you documented examples of what we're dealing with here.
unidentified		Thank you.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		There are hundreds of other declassified examples of provocateured false flag staged events.
		Hundreds, more than 200, declassified.
		Then we had Oklahoma City, and you go over the evidence of that, and I made a film, America's World by Design, covering it.
		It's now come out in mainstream newspapers that, who we fingered a decade ago.
		The Southern Poverty Law Center, the so-called anti-hate group, was running the white supremacist compound where the media told us the attacks supposedly emanated from.
		Not infiltrating, founding, running with the CIA and FBI.
		And then you go through the bombs in the building and the eyewitnesses and the Cop of the Year being murdered after he went public, saying it was the government in Oklahoma City, on and on and on, Terrence Yakey.
		We have all the Republican memos saying we need terror attacks to be able to attack Iraq and Afghanistan and Iran.
		And we have the PNAC document, September 2000, Rebuilding America's Defenses, written by Cheney, saying the same thing.
		And we have the Grand Chess Board, written by Zbigniew Brzezinski, stating the same thing.
		And we have all the modern Republican memos and op-ed editorial pieces in major newspapers, like the Philadelphia Daily News where they said 9-11 was great for America, we need another one.
		And then we have Gary Hart, head of the Homeland Security Board with the CFR that wrote the plan for Homeland Security before 9-11 and said we'd be hit by terrorists and give up all your rights when we do, writing letters to Iran saying, don't think because 80% of the American people ... are against attacking you, that you won't be attacked.
		The U.S. government will stage attacks.
		And we went and interviewed him.
		It's in Truth Rising.
		And he said, yes, our government will stage attacks.
		It's all on record.
		Thousands of pieces of other evidence.
		Then all of the anomalies and hijackers trained at U.S. military bases and heads of embassies reporting on this show that they wouldn't let Mohammed Adda and other supposed hijackers back in the country from al-Qaeda summits in Malaysia.
		And Afghanistan.
		And they'd be ordered, let them in.
		Their terrorist files are only CIA covers.
		And then we have them trained at Pensacola Naval Air Station.
		And the Defense Language School, Monterey, California.
		And the heads of the schools go public in horror and start reporting on it.
		Then we have the Anthrax attack that turned out to be a U.S. weaponized, super-weaponized version, coded in bentonite.
		A hundred million dollar process.
		They try to frame innocent people and then it links directly back to who they admit was a known Mossad agent working in Fort Detrick, who even after he was fired right before 9-11, broke back into Detrick and reportedly stole Anthrax mainstream news and the White House on Cipro, the Anthrax-fighting antibiotic.
		On September 10th, close to a month before the first Anthrax letters were mailed, Five weeks before the deaths began, the illnesses and deaths?
		You ought to see Burmese's new film he's putting together.
		It's got the press conferences with Ari Fleischer, press secretary, admitting and all.
		And you're saying it's no big deal.
		All of this and thousands of other pieces, we don't have time to cover here today and go over with you.
		But here is the new information.
		And there's a bunch of other information I'm going to cover after we get into this, like the White House memo, which the White House admits is accurate and is still seeking to prosecute, along with British intelligence, whoever released it.
		The White House memo, where the British were taking down notes of Bush telling Blair, we've got to stage some event to go into Iraq on the eve of that war, let's paint U.S. aircraft like U.N. planes, fly them low and hope some of his troops shoot at them, and then claim they fired at them as a pretext.
		Well, this is far worse.
		Headline, Infowars.com, get it out to everybody now.
		Cheney neocons considered killing Americans in pretext to attack Iran.
		And this dovetails with the tapes released four months ago, we're going to play today, of Donald Rumsfeld talking to top generals in a meeting with former top generals The gang of six who were the major, quote, military analysts for the news, saying we need another 9-11, a bigger one, or the people aren't going to support the wars and what we're doing.
		But the new information, Cheney Neocons considered killing Americans in pretext to not to attack Iran, and it's stated, Cy Hirsch, White House sources confirmed, They plan to dress up Navy SEALs like Iranians, build boats identical to the blue Iranian patrol boats, and have the Navy SEALs attack U.S. ships in the Gulf and the Strait of Hormuz.
		We'll be right back with all the details.
		I'm Alex Jones.
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		May I have everybody's attention.
		Attention please!
		I've come with a message of information.
		9-11 was an inside job.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Do you like being a puppet, sir?
unidentified		Do you like being a puppet for the New World Order?
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		How do the American people know that 9-11 was a stage?
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Was it engineered by you, David Rockefeller, the Trilateral Commission, the CFR?
unidentified		The day that we stop asking questions is the day that we have allowed the CFR Seven years after the attacks of September 11th, a global awakening has taken place.
		How dare you?
		If you know that there's treason going on, you can be held accountable for treason yourself.
		All hell is breaking loose on 6th Avenue.
		And if the government has not told the truth, in five years we will be here on the 10th anniversary of...
		Truth Rising.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Download the film at prisonplanet.tv right now.
		Or get the DVD at infowars.com.
		It's now time to take the revolution to the next level.
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		Hey, Bonnie, no more pickpocketing for us.
		I have an easier way we can steal people's credit cards without them even knowing they've been robbed.
		How so, Clyde?
		I have this RFID reader I picked up on the Internet.
		Just by waving it near you, I can skim your credit card information while your cards are still in your purse.
		Hey, look, that's my info on the screen.
		You gotta be kidding me.
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		Most people don't realize they even have chips in their credit cards and passports.
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		From his Central Texas Command Center, deep behind enemy lines, the information war continues.
		It's Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Dick Cheney, in a White House meeting, in a war conference, a powwow, called for, among many other things, that Cy Hirsch has decided to not tell the public.
		And I demand that Cy Hirsch, who has an impeccable record, but I'm outraged by the fact that he isn't, quote, releasing the other things they said they were planning.
		Cheney proposed Killing other Americans, attacking U.S. naval ships.
		Now remember, this was proposed, he says, we're going to play the tape in the next segment.
		And remember, right around this time he did release a new story that they were planning some type of staged Gulf of Tonkin in the Strait of Hormuz with our ships, but didn't say what.
		He has an absolute obligation with his White House sources, which he has, going back to Vietnam, Because we have people on the inside.
		People say, well, something this big and this evil would leak out.
		It would come out.
		It has.
		Why do you think the NSA prematurely, quote, accidentally declassified Northwoods in April of 2001?
		Months before 9-11.
		So ABC News and the Baltimore Sun could report, headline, U.S. government plan to terrorize and attack U.S. cities as pretext for war.
		That was the Baltimore Sun headline, the ABC was similar.
		Why do you think the Navy intelligence, the day before 9-11, in the Washington Post of all places, basically a government organ, said Israel may stage terror attacks in the United States or against U.S. interest as a pretext to launch a larger war in the Middle East against Iraq, Iran, and Syria?
		They are warning you.
		There are good people in government.
		It is coming out.
		It is being reported on.
		It's not being kept secret.
		And Cy Hearst says because the White House decided to not go, and because the Pentagon did not like the plan of killing their own soldiers, That the plan was not carried out and so Cy Hirsch didn't write a story about it for New Yorker magazine.
		That in and of itself is outrageous, but that's a secondary issue.
		All of the targets and all of the terrorist plans need to be released now.
		Doesn't Cy Hirsch know that if they carry out any of the plans Cheney has laid, That they will go after Cy Hirsch and will obviously know which source in the White House told him this and will kill them both?
		They'll both have automobile accidents or commit suicide?
		Do they have any idea how much danger they're in?
		Well, I think that's why Cy Hirsch at a major media conference days ago said this in front of news cameras, and then it hit YouTube.
		And then ThinkProgress did a story on it.
		This is massive.
		They plan to have Navy SEALs.
		They want...
		Cheney wanted to hurriedly build identical boats.
		Blue... PT jet boats.
		Commando boats.
		Which look like the Iranian boats.
		Launch a Navy SEAL operation to have them come up and engage in a firefight and engage U.S. naval craft.
		And we're in such a culture of evil and decadence that Cy Hirsch can just calmly report foregone conclusion that, oh yeah, this was being planned in a meeting in the White House.
		And we decided not to report on it, but we did decide to put a report out saying they were planning some type of Gulf of Tonkin.
		No, no, we needed the details then, buddy.
		We could have already been into World War III.
		They could launch it any day, Cy Hirsch.
		And the New Yorker magazine needs to be called.
		Cy Hirsch needs to have pressure put on him.
		I'm gonna call people I know that know Cy Hirsch, and I'm gonna try to have them put pressure on him, and call him at his home.
		People like Gore Vidal.
		We need to have somebody who's a former Navy SEAL, Jesse Ventura.
		I'm gonna call him today.
		I don't think he's back in town yet, but I'm gonna call him.
		I don't have his cell phone, I have his home number, and say, hey, this affects you.
		Try to get him on as soon as possible.
		I wanted to have him on, as he's probably gonna be coming to town for this event we're setting up in the next three months.
		I wanted to have him on right before that, but this is a good reason to have Ventura on.
		Maybe that can get attention.
		If Ventura comes out and talks about this, all I know is we can't wait.
		The listeners of this show, the AM and FM affiliates we're on, need to be doing news reports on this themselves.
		This is a big deal.
		This is a smoking gun.
		This isn't Northwoods that's decades old.
		This is now.
		This is happening now.
		They could pull this any day.
		This is life and death.
		We'll come back and break this down when we get back.
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		Music.
		Everybody knows that the dice are loaded.
		Everybody rolls with their fingers crossed.
		Everybody knows the war is over.
		Everybody knows the good guys lost.
		Everybody knows the fight was fixed.
		The poor stay poor, the rich get rich, that's how it goes.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Think of the magnitude.
		They really staged 9-11.
		They really did it.
		Do you realize in your psyche?
		How serious it is to have a world government elite who are totally ruthless and will kill their own slaves, their own minions, just like that.
unidentified		Like they'd...
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Like they'd take their dog for a walk.
		It just means nothing to them.
		InfoWars.com, I need Steve Watson to write another big detailed article, a call to action, breaking down the points I've made and the other points he has.
		I need Paul Watson and his stories.
		I need all of you.
		I don't need other radio hosts to even post or cover InfoWars.com's story.
		I know a lot of people out there, it's about who the big dog is on the block, and a lot of people out there won't cover anything I cover on their radio shows, their websites.
		Hey, then you get up off your butts right now, you go write a story, off of our story, or off of ThinkProgress's story, and you do your own.
		You don't wait.
		You don't sit around twiddling your thumbs.
		You write one now, or you post, and you link to InfoWars.com, because we don't have a future.
		Or you link to ThinkProgress.
		I don't care.
		You get it up, Now, and you talk about it, and you warn everyone.
		How far have we come that it's just calmly announced, oh yeah, they were planning these terror attacks, that's what they are.
		I mean, if Al-Qaeda or the real Iranian Navy pulled up and opened fire with rocket launchers and heavy machine guns on missile cruisers and frigates, That would be terrorism.
		But the war that came from that would be true terrorism.
		Hundreds of sites in Iran being blown to bits.
		Oil exploding.
		You think it was bad at $150 a barrel?
		$125 a barrel right now?
		You think the dollar plunging by 60 plus percent so far is bad?
		Every analyst says oil would at least double for six months.
		Maybe even go up more.
		OPEC said it could be unlimited.
		Shutting down the whole Middle East, sucking us into what could very easily turn into World War III.
		In fact, to my producers, let's try to get Ray McGovern on today.
		Even when Bugliosi's on, or when Chapman's on, I need to get his analysis right now.
		I need to get Dr. Paul Craig Roberts' analysis, because I need to hear what these men, you know, we need to have a council on this, because I don't claim to have all the answers, and I love to hear the other ideas, or the ideas that you listeners have.
		Let's open a thread up on the PrisonPlanet.com forum about how we get the word out about this, what we do about this.
		Imagine if they caught someone else in power, or a corporate chieftain, or the head of the FBI, or a governor, openly entertaining staging attacks on U.S. shipping.
		I mean, the FBI ran a year-long program in 19...
		in 2005-2006 From the middle of 2005 into early 2006 Setting up street kids who they profiled off their welfare checks in Miami Who were homeless and they gave them hundreds of thousands of dollars?
		They weren't even Muslim to dress in military uniforms and to go videotape FBI buildings The FBI led them and it was a big international scare an army was going to destroy everything They caught the FBI in 1998 mom steer award in Texas monthly.
		They got the I don't But their anti-terror units and their intelligence units are terrorists and are involved in terror attacks and provocative actions,
		and you think I like having to come on air and go toe-to-toe up against hardcore mafia killers?
		You think it's fun?
		This is life and death, ladies and gentlemen.
		And frankly, for my own safety, I don't need to be the only website and the only person saying what is common sense to do, and that is demand.
		I mean haul Cy Hirsch into court if we need to and have it brought out right now.
		What the other targets are and what the other terrorist plans are.
		Because let me tell you something.
		Some 14 to 18 year old street kids in Miami aren't a threat.
		Some Klan group who over a two year period the FBI couldn't even get to buy guns.
		They were so ridiculous and so alcoholic.
		That's not a threat, but let me tell you, the Vice President of the United States, backed up by British intelligence, and Mossad, and criminal elements of defense intelligence, and private corporations, and private defense contractors, they are dangerous.
		They're real dangerous.
		And they are planning to stage some type of terror attack in the Middle East, or in the United States.
		But all the intelligence sources, The former White House historians and analysts we've had on, like Richard C. Cook, and the former CIA top analyst and briefer to Ronald Reagan, and George Bush Sr. fighting for his life right now against cancer, who still comes on this show, Ray McGovern, and Dr. Paul Craig Roberts, former head of the Treasury.
		All of these experts, and there's many others we've had on, Vincent Bugliosi, and many others have all, Ron Paul, the congressman, They have all said, and Congressman Dan Hamburg, we had on a few days ago, have all said attacking our ships is the number one thing they're planning to do from sources they've got on Capitol Hill.
		And they've already tried it once with that fake radio transmission and zooming in with their cameras a mile and a half away to Iranian boats claiming they were threatening to blow the ships up.
		How on earth can Cy Hirsch just calmly sit around talking about how, yeah, they were planning this attack and other attacks, but we decided to not report on it because they decided to not carry out the attacks.
		That was just Dick Cheney in front of larger groups of his staff and the Pentagon generals in a meeting, throwing it out there, seeing who would bite, who would like it to recruit more people into it.
		Just like they went into JFK In 1962, an L.L. Lemonser, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, JFK, had doubled the size of the military in just a few years.
		He had, that is, doubled their funding.
		He was a hawk.
		He believed in a strong military.
		He was a veteran, highly decorated, on a little attack boat in the South Pacific, almost died.
		He wanted to go into Vietnam, he was there in covert operations, and they came to him and said, we want to hijack jets by remote control, fly them into things, bomb D.C., bomb Miami, shoot U.S. citizens, grab patsies, claim communists are doing it, and basically have World War III.
		And he said, we're not going to do it, and they started threatening him.
		This has all come out.
		Mainstream news, front line, you name it.
		And he said, that's it!
		The head of the CIA, you're fired!
	L.L. Emmonser, Chairman, Joint Chiefs of Staff, you're fired!
	We are not going to blow up our own ships like the Maine again.
	That's in there.
	We are not going to bomb D.C. We are not going to attack Marine Corps bases with army troops dressed up like foreigners and kill U.S. soldiers.
	We are not going to blow astronauts up and blame it on the Soviets.
	We are not going to do any of these horrible things.
	You are fired, fired, fired, fired, and he fired scores of people.
	He called him into his office, and he said, you are fired!
	And they said, no, you're fired, and blew his head off in Dallas, Texas!
	And took his body with his brains all blown out to Parkland and sewed him up and put him on a coffin and flew him back to D.C.
	And they put every one of those people, including the CIA director's brother, who was the police chief, in power.
	And it makes me so angry to know there's so many cowardly people.
	On the comments section of the infowars.com story, Cheney neocons consider killing Americans a pretext to attack Iran.
	These neocons are in there laughing and cackling, and in other sections I've seen them commenting, you know, this is a great thing, big deal, we need to attack Iran, any reason to.
	That's how the military gets things done.
	And you follow back their handles, and you see their MySpace accounts, and they're in the military.
	That sick 25% that thinks this is cute.
	Don't you understand?
	You're pawns too.
	But that's a military idea.
	Ever seen Braveheart?
	Where they got the battle going and that section of it is accurate to history.
	Where the king sends in his own troops and there's a battle going on and he says just aim...
	Aim down at that area right there.
	Aim at the main battlefield.
	And they said, but sire, we'll get our We'll hit our own troops, and he said, but we'll hit some of theirs as well.
	You see, it's that military brass idea, which they're taught at West Point, where if you need to sacrifice a hundred, five hundred, a thousand, ten thousand of your troops to draw an enemy in, to make them think they've got overwhelming odds, to draw your enemy onto a field, so you can have two armies behind the hill that are going to roll over and crush them, but you know it's going to sacrifice thousands of your own troops, it's called upon sacrifice.
	I play chess.
	Do you play chess?
	It's a sacrifice of a pawn to get check and then checkmate.
	And they have us in check right now, but unlike the game chess, the real world lets you move into checkmate.
	And American people, don't move into checkmate.
	Don't destroy yourselves, ladies and gentlemen.
	In fact, move out of check.
	In fact, we've got a move right now that can take down the New World Order and we'll just start playing chess.
	The American people can't even play checkers.
	And folks, people always ask Kaldea, this is all true, why are you still alive?
	Because the New World Order doesn't want to underline what I'm saying.
	They don't want to take a big yellow highlighter and take every word I've ever said and highlight it.
	And have it emblazoned that Alex Jones was right.
	They don't want to stick a big fat...
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alex jones ▲ ● ▼		exclamation point at the end of my name, but that doesn't mean they don't kill people, folks.
		And that's why I get so angry, too, because I've risked my life for this, and I know a lot of you have as well, and I expect people to take these type of major issues seriously.
		I mean, when we've got Gary Hart coming out and saying the U.S. government stages attacks in May Stage 1 in Iran in official public letters, in newspapers, Published.
		If we've got neocons running around publishing stuff saying we want more attacks and boy, they're great.
		And we've got all these tapes of Rumsfeld with the generals saying we need another attack.
		And then we've got Cheney planning it.
		And then Cy Hirsch can say, oh, that was four months ago.
		I decided not to write a report on that.
		As much as I like Cy Hirsch who told us five years ago that U.S. Special Forces were in Iran, now the White House admits it, staging terror attacks.
		Everything he said back to NOM has been accurate.
		And I want to know on what planet Cy Hirsch is living, and on what planet the New York Magazine is living, where they can decide to not print a story like this when they have the White House sources.
		Let's go ahead and play this incredible audio.
		This audio, in the video here taped at the Campus of Progress Journalism Conference earlier this month, the Pulitzer Prize winning journalist Seymour Hirsch reveals how the neocons ... convened around Dick Cheney and brainstormed ways to kick off World War...
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alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Four! See, the neocons say the Cold War was World War Three, so we properly call it what they call it.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		As they finally call their pet project to take...
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alex jones ▲ ● ▼		out the Muslims and foment a contrived clash of civilizations.
		That's getting us into a fight, folks, we can't get out of.
		According to Hirsch, this meeting occurred after the neocons failed miserably to stage a...
unidentified		...
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		rehashed version of the Gulf of Tonkin and sent the Strait of Hormuz, mostly because...
unidentified		...
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		it is no longer 1964...
		And such big lies, thanks to the internet and bloggers, are far more difficult to float.
		Okay, let's go ahead and play.
		This is him on the stage with a huge conference hall, full of journalists, and none of them thought they might want to write an article about this.
		I was wrong.
		This went on YouTube three days ago, but this actually was being leaked out around There's a bit at the end of this latest article that you wrote that I found actually most interesting.
unidentified		And the article hasn't got that much attention, but I want to get your take on it.
		Take on this and this relates to a story of an incident that happened a couple months ago.
		Many of you remember it.
		It was in the Strait of Hormuz.
		There was an incident where an American carrier almost blew a couple of Iranian speedboats out of the water and perhaps would have started the next war, a war against Iran or potentially a World War III.
		And it was averted, thankfully, at the last second.
		We later learned that There was really nothing to be terribly concerned about.
		The incident was overblown.
		And that there was a vice-admiral in charge of the fleet and the Strait of Hormuz who said, basically, there was no concern there.
		That it was overblown.
		Yeah, the second part, basically.
		He was concerned, but it was overblown.
		He was never threatened.
		He was never threatened.
		And you talk about this vice-admiral's name is Kevin Cosgriff.
		And in your article you write, nonetheless, Cosgriff's demeanor angered Cheney.
		According to the former senior intelligence official.
		But a lesson was learned in the incident.
		The public had supported the idea of retaliation and was even asking why the U.S. didn't do more.
		The former official said that a few weeks later a meeting took place in the vice president's office.
		Quote, the subject was how to create a casus belli between Tehran and Washington, he said.
		What you're writing there is that Cheney, there was a meeting in the White House where Cheney presided over looking to cook up the next war.
		A false war, based on false intelligence.
		My oldest son is a lawyer, and when I sent him the story before it was published, basically in a final form, just a day, and he wrote back and he said, you really buried the lead in this one about Casas Belli.
		How many press are here?
		Anyway, there was a meeting among the items considered and rejected, which is why the New Yorker did not publish it on grounds that it wasn't accepted.
		One of the items was, there was a dozen ideas proffered, how to trigger a war.
		The one that interested me the most was, why don't we build, we in our shipyard, build four or five boats that look like Iranian PT boats, put Navy seals on them, With a lot of arms and the next time one of our boats goes through the Straits of Hormuz Start a shoot-up Might cost some lives and it was rejected because you can't have Americans killing Americans, but that's the kind of that's the level of stuff We were talking about provocation, but that was rejected.
		So I could understand the argument of not writing something that was rejected Maybe I'm basically my attitude always towards editors.
		Is there mice training to be rats?
		So but but you have to get you know, they're but the point is Jay June if you know what that means Silly maybe But potentially very lethal because one of the things they learned in the incident Was the American public if you get the American if you get the right incident the American public will support,
		you know Bang bang kiss kiss, you know, we're into it and the public although that was The other side that had issued that was important, what happened in the Gulf, in the Straits, in early January, the President was just about to go to the Middle East for a visit.
		So it was all, that was one reason they wanted to gin it up.
		Get it going.
		Uh, look.
		Um, uh, is it high school?
		Yeah. Are we playing high school?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Alright, listen to this.
		You have the Vice President and the neocons in there with the military, planning this, and it's all high school, it's funny, ha ha.
		And we already have the White House memo where they plan it with aircraft.
		Incredible. We'll be right back.
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alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Music Vincent Bugliosi is on in about five minutes.
		In fact, let's just get him at the start for the next hour.
		Go ahead and call him in about three minutes, John.
		He probably doesn't know about this.
		I know he's talked about it before Congress last Friday, how they plan to stage terror attacks, provocateur actions with the White House memo.
		But we'll bring this up to him and get his take on that.
		I'm also trying to get Ray McGovern to pop in today or on the Sunday show from 4 to 6 p.m.
		I need your help, listeners, to go to InfoWars.com right now.
		And it's one of the top stories.
		It's been up there since yesterday afternoon.
		It is so important.
		Cheney neocons considered killing Americans in pretext to attack Iran.
		Some of the other news I have, Alex Jones fan charged for placing 9-11 stickers on a plane.
		Jason Robo, this is in scores of newspapers, trying to act like he was a terrorist.
		He's being, I guess, arraigned today for sticking an InfoWars.com bumper sticker in the bathroom.
		Folks, don't do things like that.
		Don't do stupid things like that.
		I mean, I'm on this young man's side.
		I'm sorry he's in a bunch of trouble.
		But, uh, this is a serious world.
		These people don't play games.
		Okay? And something that ten years ago would have got you just a fine...
		I mean, they could put him on show trial on TV and say he worked for Bin Laden.
		You know, saying 9-11's an inside job.
		They're now saying that myself and others were secretly trained as children in Afghanistan.
		All this ridiculous...
		Just, it's so ridiculous.
		Uh... It's just so amazing, ladies and gentlemen.
		They are just completely out of control these terrorists and We've got one of the people that were getting ready to supposedly charge for the anthrax attacks Who was not the main suspect and other patsy like Hatfield quote committed suicide last night at his home That's in the Associated Press completely asinine We're gonna be covering that Bush calls for basically turning all the major highways as we told you in a toll road because the states are being battled by the people turning them over to foreign companies,
		which we've already paid for and In Wall Street Journal, Bush plans through some type of executive fiat controlling the federal funds, that it's our money to give it to foreigners.
		Because they're having setbacks in Indiana and Texas and other places, so they're just moving ahead with this tyranny.
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alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, he testified before the House Judiciary Committee on a preliminary hearing on whether they should hear full hearings, evidence on moves to impeach George W. Bush.
		The President.
		And I wanted to have him on today to talk about that and go over his evidence.
		He is, of course, needs no introduction, best-selling author, the prosecutor that successfully nailed the Manson family to the wall and a bunch of other famous cases, a great legal mind, and the jury's in.
		People believe, even they had Bob Barr and others up there, that he was the most effective and most powerful in the hearing last week.
		We're going to get into that.
		But he just now heard about this.
		He's so focused on trying to prosecute Bush and trying to get impeachment or some type of grand jury to move for indictment that he wasn't aware of this.
		And I don't blame him.
		This broke yesterday on ThinkProgress.
		There's no doubt.
		I made phone calls last night and this morning.
		Cy Hirsch, Seymour Hirsch of the New Yorker magazine, highly respected, White House sources, congressional sources, probably the greatest living investigative journalist.
		Who broke five years ago that U.S. Special Forces were in Iran with Wahhabist Al Qaeda-type groups attacking the Iranian Shiite government as a pretext to overthrow it or start a war.
		He broke, along with the Times of London the same day, the story about the White House memo.
		He broke this two years ago, or a year and a half ago, the plan to fly U.S. airplanes painted up like U.N. law to try to get Saddam's forces to shoot at them or shoot them down.
		But now, major breaking news!
		Major breaking news, and so I want to read a little bit of a report after the break to him and play a few minutes of Cy Hirsch talking, but then pooh-poohing, saying, well, they just planned, you know, he just proposed, Cheney in a meeting, getting SEALs to have a bunch of arms and have a clash with destroyers and have them shoot at each other and some people could die, but you know, that's the high school annex.
		So we kind of pooh-poohed it, and I find this to be really disgusting in a way.
		Vincent Bugliosi, I hate to, you know, Bushwhack you here with new info, but I'm going to cover the sources for you after the break, but what do you think about this?
vincent bugliosi ▲ ● ▼		Well, I'd have to hear it.
		I'm so focused on getting George Bush in an American courtroom being prosecuted for murder and taking the nation to war in Iraq on a lie that I literally, other than reading headlines, do not have time to read the daily newspapers, so I'm being exposed to this for the first time, but I'd like to hear it.
		Okay. I'd like to hear the tape of it.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely. We're going to do that.
		I'll tell you what, John, Move that to two minutes 20 seconds in when when when her starts talking on the stage that is the best place to Start this and and we and we're gonna go to break and some stations join us after the break So that's that's good.
		We'll have all our full audience then But just now let me give you the background Cheney neocons consider killing Americans and pretext to attack Iran think progress and other publications in the video here taped to the campus of A progress journalism conference earlier this month, the Pulitzer Prize winning journalist Seymour Hersh reveals how the neocons convened around Dick Cheney and brainstormed ways to kick off World War IV as they finally call their pet project to take out the Muslims and foment a contrived clash of civilizations.
		Now, I went and checked the conference website at the university.
		He was there.
		It is him.
		It's video of him on the stage.
		Uh, we have called the New Yorker, we've called his office, we're trying to get a response because he has a responsibility to tell us the other eleven provocations they were planning.
		Okay, and it's also come out that right after, this meeting was right after they had the event, where they claimed that the PT Iranian boats in the Strait of Hormuz came out and wanted to attack the ship, turned out they were over a mile away, and there was a fake radio transmission.
		The media had to admit it was fake.
		It was obviously an Anglo with a ridiculous fake Muslim voice going Eastern voice Persian voice going we are going to blow you up in one minute And then it turned out quote.
		Oh somebody was joking around the Navy radios Okay, yeah, that's a cover story Vincent Bugliosi we're very honored to have you I I didn't mean to spend four minutes doing that before we have you speak I just want to give you as much info.
		We'll go to a three-minute break and come directly back with the full Clip for Vincent Bugliosi so he can give us his take on it Just unbelievable ladies and gentlemen Vincent Bugliosi is our guest stay with us Hey everybody, if you're anything like me, I'll bet you like to eat.
unidentified		I like egg scrambles for breakfast, fresh homemade bread, delicious pastas like lasagna, I love beef stroganoff, I love chicken noodle soup, I love desserts, all kinds of entrees and soups and desserts and breakfasts.
		I love that stuff.
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alex jones ▲ ● ▼		During the break, because we already played it last hour, I played the audio, part of the audio, of the full video that's up on infowarriors.com right now.
		And again, you hear Cyrus talk about he's written a little article that mentioned they wanted provocations, but not what they were, and that the New Yorker editors said, oh, well, that's not newsworthy that they were discussing this.
		I mean, that's like saying President Bush and Dick Cheney were discussing kidnapping children or cutting babies out of women's wombs like Charlie Manson.
		But they didn't do it, so we're not going to talk about it when they clearly have staged other provocations.
		This is just incredible, and I know Vincent Bugliosi, famous prosecutor, who did prosecute the Manson family, hence the mention of Charlie Manson, doesn't like to get into things he hasn't fully vetted or looked at yet, but I played him the audio during the break.
		Give us your preliminary take on that.
vincent bugliosi ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, Alex, I didn't hear everything.
		It wasn't that clear.
		I can tell you this, that it didn't surprise me at all.
		These people are capable of anything.
		By people, I mean the Bush administration.
		But I would like to have either a transcript of this meeting that took place between Cheney and who else, or someone having written the minutes or a memo on the meeting.
		It would be a little stronger if we had that.
		But it's totally consistent with the Manning memo that I talk about in my book, The Prosecution of George W. Bush for Murder, where Bush himself, not just Cheney, but Bush himself, is talking about how to provoke a war with Saddam Hussein.
		I agree with you a hundred percent that this is relevant, even though they didn't go ahead and do it, because it's reflective of their state of mind.
		And that's very important in a criminal trial, their state of mind that they are willing to deliberately deceive the American public and take in this nation to war.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And also shows premeditation for dastardly deeds.
vincent bugliosi ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely. Absolutely.
vincent bugliosi ▲ ● ▼		So whether they go ahead on it or not is not relevant.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		The relevant thing is what's their state of mind that they're very willing Not really, it comes pretty close to it.
vincent bugliosi ▲ ● ▼		Well, you could say yes, a conspiracy to commit the crime, except Uh, at common law, that was enough.
		But today, in addition to the agreement, there has to be what they call an overt act.
		A step taken, it doesn't have to be a big step, but a step taken to carry out the object of the conspiracy.
		So there is the agreement, which is one element of the crime of conspiracy, but here, if that's all there was, there was no overt act to further, uh, what they were agreeing, uh, To do.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		But it's another major investigation, is it not?
vincent bugliosi ▲ ● ▼		Oh, absolutely, absolutely, absolutely, of course.
		It shows that they want to take the nation to war on a lie, but there has to be some step that they take in furtherance of the object of that agreement.
		And I don't hear that here, even in the Manning Memo.
		We don't have that.
		But we do have Bush showing that he wanted to take the nation to war on a lie.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And it goes beyond that.
		Tell us about the Manning Memo.
		I mean, not everybody is aware of it like you are in a book about it.
		Tell us about it.
vincent bugliosi ▲ ● ▼		Well, the Manning Memo is just one piece of evidence that I present in my book to show that George Bush is guilty of murder.
		And it shows his state of mind that he wanted to go to war on a lie.
		The date was January the 31st, 2003.
		And by the way, we're not talking about the Downing Street Memo.
		That's a totally different memo, and it's kind of ambiguous.
		If I prosecuted Bush, that would be offered, but it's not strong enough to go to war.
		I mean, to go to a trial.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's telling the British, fix intelligence, we're going to lie.
vincent bugliosi ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but that, uh, there was no source, uh, for that, and it's a little ambiguous what fixing the evidence means.
		It could mean, uh, creating evidence, which would be very, very serious, or it could mean cherry-picking, which is a lot weaker.
		But the Manning Memo, uh, this is January 31st, 2003, Bush met with, uh, British Prime Minister Tony Blair, uh, in the Oval Office for two hours with six of his top aides, including His chief, uh, Blair's chief foreign policy advisor, David Manning.
		After the meeting, Manning prepared a five-page memo stamped, quote, extremely sensitive, unquote, in which he summarized, Alex, what was said, uh, at the meeting.
		And among other things, he said that George Bush, uh, not Blair, but Bush, uh, was so worried about the failure of UN inspectors to find weapons of mass destruction in Iraq that he talked about three possible ways to, quote, Provoke a confrontation, unquote, with Hussein, one of which Bush said was to, quote, fly U-2 reconnaissance aircraft over Iraq, falsely painted in United Nations colors.
		And Bush said that if Hussein fired upon them, he'd be in violation of UN resolutions, and that would justify our going to war.
		Now, here we have, Alex, George Bush telling the American people, telling the world, that Hussein was an imminent threat The security of this country, but behind closed doors, this small man was talking about how to provoke Hussein into a war.
		Now, if Bush honestly, and let's italicize the word honestly, if he honestly believed that Hussein was an imminent threat to the security of this country, which is the main reason he gave the American people going to war, by definition, the thought of provoking Hussein into a war would never ever have entered his mind.
		I was on the Dennis Miller show a couple weeks ago, Dennis fell hopelessly in love with the Republican Party at the time of 9-11, and I poked fun of him in my book.
		And I said, Dennis, you're defending George Bush at his trial for murder, and the prosecutor calls David Manning to the witness stand to testify to what your guy said on January 31st, 2003.
		Other than trying to hide beneath the consul table, Dennis, what would your response be to David Manning's testimony?
		And Dennis is bright and quick.
		He said, I'd ask for a recess.
		No matter how long that recess went on for, ten minutes, an hour, a week, or a year, there's no answer to the Manning memo other than guilt.
		It clearly shows George Bush wanted to take the nation to war on a lie.
		The fact that they didn't implement that is not relevant.
		It's relevant in that we couldn't prosecute it on that alone.
		But it shows that he lied when he told the nation that he believed that Hussein was an imminent threat to the security of this country.
		Because if you believe that, He never, by definition, would have been talking about how to provoke Hussein into a war.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And he then had his surrogates go out and produce, excised, as you covered in the hearings last week, before the judiciary, false, dummied-up reports that had then been brought to Congress and before the United Nations.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		So he had his surrogates all over, pushing a line, and then took us to the war.
vincent bugliosi ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, in fact, on June 16th, I got a call here in L.A. from a very conservative Republican congressman from the South who voted for the war, was one of its most vocal supporters.
		I'm not giving his name right now because he's running for re-election, but he told me that come November, he wants to be on my side, hopefully when George Bush is indicted for murder, in any event.
		He heard the tape on the book, The Prosecution of George W. Bush for Murder, and he called me, and he said, Mr. Boyle, I want to tell you that I'm convinced now that George Bush misled Congress, he didn't mention the American people, he misled Congress into war.
		I've given several copies of the book to colleagues, including John Conyers, who called me, by the way, about a month ago, or three weeks ago, I forget how long ago, but anyway, he said he was reading the book, and he had gotten a copy of the book.
		And he said that, um, where am I here on this story here, um, I'm talking about, um, this Republican congressman.
		He said he's given them a copy of the book, asked them to read it, and told them, read the book, uh, we were lied to.
		He felt very bad himself that he was susceptible to that lie, and I told him, Congressman, do not feel that way.
		You were not, as he learned in the book, you were not given the information that you were supposed to be given.
		Now, what is that information?
		Well, Bush, on the evening of October 7, 2002, from Cincinnati, Ohio, this was his first reference to Hussein in Iraq being a threat to the country, he told the nation that Hussein was an imminent threat to the security of this country.
		Either by his attacking us with weapons of mass destruction or giving those weapons to a terrorist group to attack us.
		And he said this attack can happen quote, on any given day unquote, meaning the threat was imminent.
		The big problem for George Bush is that the evidence shows that what he told the American people was the exact opposite of what his own CIA had told him just six days earlier in a classified October 1st report.
		That Hussein was not an imminent threat.
		Now we get into the issue of, uh, deletions.
		And it gets worse.
		October the 4th, and I told Congress this, and they were taking notes, it looked like, uh, to me.
		If they weren't taking notes, they were certainly listening very intently.
		In fact, Conyers, the fellow to his left, Republican Congressman, literally tried to shut me down.
		And he made this remark.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Lamar Smith.
vincent bugliosi ▲ ● ▼		He said, uh, he said, I, not referring to me, But he said, um, I'm about to have an aneurysm.
		Now, I don't know if that was a Freudian slip or what have you, but I told, uh, I told Congress that in this October 4th, um, uh, unclassified version of the classified report, it was called the White Paper.
		This is what the Bush administration did.
		They had an unclassified summary version of an October 1st report to give to Congress and the American people.
		And in this unclassified version, the conclusion of U.S. intelligence, we're talking about 16 U.S. intelligence agencies led by the CIA, the conclusion of U.S. intelligence that Hussein was not an imminent threat to the security of this country was completely deleted.
		Every single one of those all-important words was taken out, so Congress never saw that.
		And I was telling this congressman, as he learned from the book, you never saw that.
		I can't tell you how serious this is.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		For those that don't understand, they premeditatedly edited the 16 agencies' reports, created a fraud, and then put it forward as 16 anonymous agencies saying he is a threat when they said he isn't an imminent threat.
vincent bugliosi ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's exactly right.
		The consensus of 16 U.S. intelligence agencies was that Hussein Absolutely.
		It did not contain that statement.
		It did not contain several other things.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And when we get back, I'd like to talk to you about several other things that were not Vincent Bugliosi is our guest, the famed prosecutor.
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		We're going to open the phones up about the impeachment hearings last week, about where all this is going.
		I also want to ask him later, is he fearing for his safety going up against this mafia?
		Has he got any threats?
		But continuing with the absolute evidence that I mean, you use the number of 100,000 dead in Iraq, but most of the big, the lands at study and, you know, other international respected groups who are nonpartisan have said that it's closer to a million now.
		I mean, two and a half years ago, it was 600 plus thousand dead.
		But you've been being conservative, 100,000 dead in Iraq.
		I mean, this is murder.
		This is premeditated.
		Please continue.
vincent bugliosi ▲ ● ▼		Of course, but by the way, Alex, in my end note, a lot of times people don't read end notes.
		But my endnotes are a little different than a lot of people.
		Some of my endnotes go on for 20, 30 pages in my book on the Kennedy Fascination.
		I have an endnote that goes on for 60 pages, I think, with about 30 footnotes.
		I'm not dropping names here, but Johnny Carson said, Vince, I read all your endnotes.
		But the only reason I mention that now is I do mention what you say about the estimates being as high as one million, and that was about a year ago.
		So I'm using a very conservative number in the main text of a hundred thousand.
		Summarizing what I'm saying up to where we left off, we have Bush then telling the nation on October the 7th that Hussein was an imminent threat to the security of this country, and he was telling millions of unsuspecting Americans the exact opposite of what his own CIA had told him just six days earlier, that Hussein was not an imminent threat.
		And then I was pointing out to you that on October the 4th, The Bush administration put out an unclassified summary version of this classified report so they could give it to Congress and the American people, and this report was called the White Paper, and in that White Paper, the main conclusion of the October 1st classified report that Hussein was not an imminent threat was completely deleted, so Congress and the American people did not see that.
		There were two other things in that classified report that Congress and the American people never saw, and the Republican congressmen sought for the first time uh...
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vincent bugliosi ▲ ● ▼		the conclusion it was an erroneous conclusion that who's saying that weapons of mass destruction we subsequently learned that they were all destroyed in nineteen ninety one at the end of the persian gulf war that conclusion that was stated in the classified report as an opinion with the words we accept that or we judge that who say it has weapons of mass destruction the white report Uh, of the White Paper, the words, we judge that, we assess that, were deleted, and that opinion was stated as a fact.
		The words were, Hussein has weapons of mass destruction.
		Also, there were several very important, uh, dissents in the area of, uh, nuclear weapons in the classified report.
		All of those dissents were deleted, uh, from the White Paper.
		This is extremely powerful evidence that Bush took this nation to war knowingly and deliberately on a lie, under false pretenses.
		And therefore, under the law, under the law, he's guilty of murder.
		For the death of over 4,000 young American soldiers who have died so far fighting his war, not your war, Alex, or my war, or America's war, but his war.
		One of the key issues that I knew would come up, if there's going to be a prosecution, and there very well could be after he leaves office, right now he has temporary immunity, is whether there's jurisdiction to prosecute George Bush.
		And I spent a great number of hours at the L.A. County Law Library and the Ninth Circuit Library trying to establish jurisdiction.
		I was unable to establish jurisdiction for the well over 100,000 innocent Iraqi men, women, children, and babies who have died in this war.
		Bush is guilty of those murders, but I couldn't establish jurisdiction for them.
		But I was able to establish jurisdiction to prosecute Bush for the murder of the over 4,000 young American soldiers.
		And I established jurisdiction for the Attorney General.
		In Washington, D.C. acting through his Department of Justice.
		We're only talking really about one prosecutor there.
		There's 93 U.S. attorneys around the country, but they're not going to bring an action against Bush without the consent of their boss.
		But on a state level, I established jurisdiction for the Attorney General, Alex, in each of the 50 states, plus the approximately 950 district attorneys in counties within those states, to prosecute Bush for the murder of any soldier or soldiers From their state or county who died fighting Bush's war in Iraq.
		So with over or approximately 1,000 prosecutors out there in this land of ours, and with all the evidence of guilt that I present in my book, The Prosecution of George Bush for Murder, I don't think it's unreasonable to believe, Alex, that there's at least one prosecutor out there that's courageous enough to step forward, maybe there's many more, step forward and say, this is the United States of America.
		In America, no man is above the law.
		Uh, the evidence of Bush's guilt is clear, so I'm going to go after him.
		And when we talk about 1,000 prosecutors, before Bush passes away, that number may go up to 7,000 or 8,000 prosecutors, because there's no statute of limitations for the crime of murder.
		You know, Pinochet down in Chile, uh, 33 years later, they brought murder charges against him.
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		He's Vincent Bugliosi, best-selling author, books he's written have been made into films, TV shows, you name it.
		Mr. Bugliosi, getting into the mind, you know, you've studied criminology, You've been death-threatened before.
		You've dealt with these type of individuals.
		We know that psychopaths, the controlled psychopaths, go for positions of power throughout history.
		Comparing the mind of Charlie Manson and other psychos you put away with George Bush, with Cheney, with the neocons, with their nasty mindset, give us your analysis on their mindset.
vincent bugliosi ▲ ● ▼		I don't know if I'm an authority on the mindset.
		You know, I had to prove that the defendant committed the crime and that there was no legal justification for him to do so.
		We certainly got into the mind in the resolution of that issue.
		But motive is not an element of the corpus delicti of any crime.
		So I've actually put people on death row without knowing for sure why they committed the crime.
		All I knew is that they had done it, put someone in their grave six feet under, and they had no legal justification for doing so.
		Asking me, kind of, to compare Manson with Bush.
		Manson, obviously, was a very evil person.
		Let me get that off the hook here so we're not interrupted.
		Manson was a very evil person who wanted to kill as many people as he could.
		And I knew that if he was not stopped, he would have killed as many people as he could have.
		Someone who knew Manson a lot better than I did because he lived with him, little Paul Watkins, he's dead now.
		He said, Vince, death is Charlie's trip.
		So I would classify Manson as being a very evil human being who placed no value on human life, and he had a passion for death, blood, and murder.
		Bush, I would not say is evil.
		He certainly doesn't want to kill anyone.
		he's a...
		He's extremely arrogant, extremely self-centered.
		And one of the emotional underpinnings for this book, basically, is the fact that, and we're getting into this issue now, that he couldn't possibly care less about the fact that his own people were being killed or the death of innocent Iraqi civilians.
		One of the emotional underpinnings for my book is the fact that the evidence is overwhelming that throughout the hell on earth that Bush created an Iraq with over 100,000 people dying horrible violent deaths and hundreds of thousands of their survivors crying out hysterically and having terrible nightmares over what happened to their loved ones.
		This guy, George Bush, has smiled through it all.
		In fact, we see a photo of Bush and six or seven other people smiling.
		Alex, who has the biggest smile on his face right in the middle of the war, George Bush.
		The evidence is very clear and anyone that tries to dispute it is just going to be looking like a fool.
		That while young American soldiers, 18, 19 year old kids, Alex, who never had a chance to live out their dreams were being blown to pieces by roadside bombs in Iraq.
		Bush was having a lot of fun and enjoying life to the very fullest.
		I'm talking about running, bicycling, joking with friends, slapping backs, dancing and swiveling his hips like Elvis to blaring music.
		Almost always appearing to be in the very best of good spirits.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Exactly. Let me just stop you, Vincent Pagliosi.
		I mean, just covering serious issues on this show, I've become more of a serious person.
		I'm very serious in life.
		And you see a judge, they try to be solemn.
		You see police, they try to be professional and solemn.
		With Bush, he's always clowning around.
		And then he lied and said, oh, I've been playing golf since the war started.
		And it turns out he's playing every week.
		So it's also the endless lying and Just the arrogance, thinking we're all idiots.
vincent bugliosi ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you look at a photograph of people like, or presidents like Roosevelt, Truman, LBJ, and Nixon, a photograph of their faces during the time of war, their respective wars, and the photos reflect the grimness of the war.
		It was a very serious time.
		Unlike any other president in American history, during a time of war, Bush has regularly and routinely had a lot of fun and been in high spirits.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, you can say what you want.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		You can say what you want about Nixon or LBJ, but they obsessed in the war room and tried to figure things out and got ulcers and lost sleep, and these weren't even very moral people in many respects, but they took it serious.
vincent bugliosi ▲ ● ▼		Oh, absolutely.
		LBJ told one of his aides, Jack Valenti, that every time in the morning when he'd read the casualty reports, it was like drinking carbolic acid.
		And for your audience out there, I would tell them that they don't have to take my word for this, or the photographs in the book, and they're not gotcha photos, they're photos showing Bush having an absolute ball.
		Bush himself has had no hesitancy at all in saying things like this, Alex, over and over again.
		And while I'm quoting Bush, these are just some quotes that are in the book, while I'm quoting him, Try to think, I'm asking your audience, you try to think of, at the very same time he's uttering these words, all of the death and the horror and the suffering and the screaming and the mutilations and beheadings that are taking place in Iraq, while he's uttering these words.
		This is George Bush.
		Laura and I are having the time of our lives.
		I'm in a great mood.
		It's a perfect day.
		I'm feeling pretty good about life.
		Alex, if I killed one person, even accidentally, like in a car accident, I'd never have another perfect day for the rest of my life.
		And I'm telling you, this guy has been having a ball enjoying himself to the utmost throughout this entire war.
		And I say this, that even if George Bush was only guilty of making an innocent mistake and taking this nation to war in Iraq, not murder, as I firmly believe, with all of the death, horror, and suffering he has caused, what type of a monstrous individual is it Who could be happy with his life?
		There's no question that he's happy.
		I mean, as recently as March of this year, he shows up at a press conference to endorse McCain's candidacy.
		McCain shows up late.
		What does Bush do?
		Spontaneously, big smile on his face, he starts doing a soft-shoe tap-dancing routine to entertain the assembled media.
		You've probably heard of Mark McKinnon?
		Yes. He's a bicycling friend of Bush, and I think he was ahead of Bush's media campaign, or one of his strategists, I think he was ahead of it, in the 2004 re-election campaign.
		He told the New York Times in 2005, right in the midst of all the horror and atrocities going on in Iraq, he said he'd never seen the president more calm, relaxed, and happy.
		And to me, this is almost unprecedented.
		I kind of went off on a little riff.
		You're asking me to compare Manson with Bush.
		Bush is a desperate man.
		human being.
		I don't believe he's lost one wink of sleep over all the deaths that he's caused in Iraq.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, what about the working out three hours a day and taking two-hour naps and then says he doesn't even read the newspaper?
vincent bugliosi ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah, yeah.
		Probably even more telling than all of this, my wife and I, during a seven-year period, I work seven days a week.
		I get to bed around two in the morning, wake up at 10.
		She says, you work from morning to morning.
		We had our 50th anniversary, and we took three days off.
		In the desert, during a seven-year period that Bush was president.
		If it hadn't been for the anniversary, he probably wouldn't have even taken those three days off.
		Now, the only reason I mention that is that I'm, you know, a cypher, a complete nobody.
		I'm just an author.
		During that same period, you know how many days George Bush took off for vacation or at places like Well, I know it's around a third of the year he's on vacation.
		Yeah, that's right.
		908 days.
		So I take three days off and I'm nothing.
		He's the President of the United States.
		And I was told by the CBS radio guy who follows the White House that up until January 1st, 2008, he had taken off 908 days on vacation.
		Here's someone that's not particularly bright at all.
		Everyone agrees, even his supporters, that he has an extremely low amount of knowledge.
		If you were to take the average person and put them in the presidency with Bush's lack of knowledge, what would that person do if he loved America?
		He'd work round the clock trying to get as knowledgeable as he could so he could represent this country in the best possible way to bring it to a better condition than it presently is in.
		George Bush did the exact opposite.
		Took off 908 days.
		Why? Well, like I say in the book, it doesn't just show he's lazy.
		Everyone knows that.
		It shows that.
		It shows, in my opinion, I'm not positive of this, that this man does not love the United States of America.
		He doesn't hate it.
		He doesn't hate it.
		But he has no particular love for it.
		And one way you show your love for your country, obviously, is to fight for it.
		And this is what I have against, among many other things, against Bush and his fellow neocons in the right wing of the party.
		The tremendous hypocrisy of these people.
		They're the most repugnant, hypocritical, un-American people in our society.
		When it was their time, this is just one example, I'm sure you have many more, Alex.
		When it was their time to fight for America in the Vietnam War, show their love for this country.
		What did they do?
		I'm talking about the Bushes, the Cheneys, the Roves, the indescribably reprehensible Rush Limbaugh.
		What did they do?
		They ran like hell in the opposite direction.
		But now they have no hesitancy in waving the flag and shedding the blood of other people's children in far-off Iraq.
		These are not good people.
		With respect to Bush's monumental crime in this case, here's my view, and I view it more as a fact than as an opinion.
		Because George Bush is a conservative Republican, and so are they, anything he does, anything at all, including murder, is just fine with them.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Listen, I have people in my message board on InfoWars.com And they come in and go, yeah, the government stages events to get us into war.
		It's good.
		Yeah, cops are tasing people to death.
		It's good.
		I mean, it seems like it's not just Bush and his psychopathic or sociopathic activities.
		The whole society, and I've always seen myself as, you know, a mainline conservative slash libertarian, but it's not just George Bush.
		It's a lot of these Republican followers.
		They think it's cute and funny to be evil.
		They think it's cute and funny Iraqis are dying.
		They post on their blogs pictures of Iraqi children with their feet blown off.
		And talk about nuking them and turning it into a glass parking lot.
		They really are demonic, psychopathic camp followers.
		Now, they wouldn't actually want to go blow the kids' feet off.
		They'd throw up at the sight of real blood.
		But it's like some kind of...
		some type of stunted bloodlust.
		Like a little piggy-ish demon.
		And there's hordes of them.
		And I really think it's a society that's become very decadent.
		I think George Bush It's an expression of the rotten sectors, not saying the whole country, it's a great country, that are out there.
		And it makes me ashamed because we can say they did it and they lied to us and Congress didn't know, but now the Democrats aren't going after them.
		The Democrats have still got us in the war.
		And it just makes me really ashamed to be an American.
vincent bugliosi ▲ ● ▼		Well, Alex, I agree with everything you say.
		If we look at the genesis of this, I would add this addendum.
		These people that couldn't care less about all the killings of uh...
		not only iraqi citizens but american soldiers they couldn't care less they say well this is war my analysis is that the reason they're that way is that they are much more republican than they are uh...
		american let me ask you this what do you think their state of mind would be if bill clinton were doing the same identical thing as george bush they'd be freaking out they'd be running around freaking out pulling their hair out Well, more than that, they'd want to skin him alive, hang him in the town square at noontime.
		I mean, here's a guy that had consensual sex outside of marriage, tried to cover it up.
		Just sublime silliness, nothing at all.
		And what happened to him?
		With these right-wingers, day after day, week after week, month after month, year after year, he was savaged by the right-wing media, including the liberal New York Times and Washington Post, the monstrous Ken Starr, Federal funding conducted a seven-year, $70 million effort to destroy the Clinton presidency.
		He was impeached.
		They tried to drive him from office for doing nothing.
		And here's George Bush, responsible for, like you say, probably over one million murders, and they don't want to do anything at all.
		And I say this, Bush and his people have gotten away with thousands upon thousands of murders, and we, America, the American people, cannot let him do this.
		And this is why I'm not going to be satisfied.
		I may not succeed, but I'm not going to be satisfied until I see this guy in an American courtroom being prosecuted for first-degree murder.
		And if the jury convicts him, Alex, as you know, it'll be up to them to decide the appropriate punishment.
		One of their options being the imposition of the death penalty.
		The other options being life imprisonment and life imprisonment without the possibility of parole.
		Are you there, Alex?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yes, I'm just stunned by the magnitude of what you're talking about.
		And again, I cut my teeth on talk radio attacking Bill Clinton for the Chinese generals and the missile secrets and the Arkansans.
		But compared to George Bush, I mean, I'm no fan of Bill Clinton.
		I know people that worked with him, were around him.
		The guy slept four hours a night.
		He constantly read all the government agency reports.
		He had at least pride in himself that he wanted to be sharp and know what was going on.
		And just a side issue, I've been reading the military reports themselves, many of the VA's, roaches, flies, rats, no good health care, people that aren't even real doctors have been hired, overflowing toilets at bases everywhere,
		the C-130's falling apart, toilets overflowing, the men crapping in the aisles on the way over to Iraq, and then they've built all these pleasure planes Yeah, well I can't disagree with anything that you say, Alex. As they say, I guess it's a new term.
vincent bugliosi ▲ ● ▼		Still the 19th century with a yellow pad and pencil, you're spot on.
		Is that a new term?
		Spot on?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		No, no, that's a good term.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I just don't know.
vincent bugliosi ▲ ● ▼		I'm not that familiar with it.
vincent bugliosi ▲ ● ▼		I just heard it recently.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, take the handling of the economy.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		The dollar's plunging, all these prices are up, and Bush is prancing around, what, two weeks ago saying the economy's just fine.
vincent bugliosi ▲ ● ▼		Yeah. Talking about Clinton's alleged crimes vis-a-vis Bush's, as you know, at the hearings Friday, In Congress, there was a professor from Northwestern, Mr. Presser, I don't know his first name, but anyway, he was denouncing all the horrible things that George Bush did, but had no trouble with what...
		No, all the horrible things he said that Clinton did, but had no trouble with what George Bush did.
		And I just said, Mr. Presser, you apparently have no...
		Apparently you think it's worse what Clinton did, lying to the American public about consensual sex.
		And you feel that's worse than George Bush lying to the American public about going to war and all the death, horror, and suffering that has resulted from it?
		And I said, I would ask you this question, Mr. Presser.
		What previously recognized form of logic would allow you to reach a conclusion like that?
		And he was silent.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's it.
		There's a craziness.
		Spreading across the country, but I don't give the Democrats cover they should have already pulled out of Iraq They should already be in full-blown impeachment hearings a year and a half ago But we don't see that instead we see Nancy Pelosi prancing around with Bush everywhere So I think it's going to get I think it's just going to continue under the Democrats.
		I want to take some phone calls for our guest and I don't want to keep you too much longer in the next hour, but can you do five minutes in the next hour?
vincent bugliosi ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, absolutely.
		Listen, I'm honored to be on this show.
		You're a stand-up guy, and I can't thank you enough.
		You know, I've been blacked out by the major media in this country.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, talk about the blackout the minute we've got left before break.
vincent bugliosi ▲ ● ▼		Oh, okay, good.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Go ahead.
vincent bugliosi ▲ ● ▼		Oh, right now?
		Well, um...
		My publisher said she had never seen another book in her over 30 years that had been totally blacked out by the mainstream national media, up until a New York Times article about two weeks ago pointing out the blackout.
		It was a total, complete blackout.
		No network, no table.
		Total blackout.
		I got so bad that ABC Radio refused to take money from my publisher to take out a radio spot on the news on their network for the book, Prosecution of George W. Bush for Murder.
		But despite that, the book, because of people like you, an incredible word of mouth, is a New York Times bestseller, number nine this week.
		But it's because of people like you that it's given me a voice, but the mainstream national have not wanted to talk to me about this book.
		They don't even want to talk about Bush being prosecuted for murder.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And that's because they know they're complicit going along with it.
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		We have one of the most successful prosecutors in U.S.
		history prosecuted the Mansons, among other unsavory people.
		Let's put it lightly.
		Vincent Bugliosi, he has the new New York Times bestseller, despite a total media blackout in mainstream-controlled corporate media out of fear and their complicity in all this.
		They have a stake in the whole establishment, basically, the military-industrial complex, Mr. Jones, I want you to understand something.
unidentified		We got a lot of love for you out here, brother.
unidentified		A lot of love.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, thank you.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Do you have a question for Vincent Bugliosi?
unidentified		Yes. I'm Italian, too, so how you doing, by the way?
vincent bugliosi ▲ ● ▼		I don't want to drop another name.
		Warren Beatty asked me the same thing on Sunday, and I said, I'm angry.
		I'm angry.
		I'm very, very angry.
unidentified		Mr. Burgos, has there ever been a successful prosecution of somebody of Bush's status?
unidentified		And if this trial ever does come to court, will those that choose to prosecute him, will they live to see the verdict?
vincent bugliosi ▲ ● ▼		Will those that choose to prosecute him live to see the verdict?
		You're saying there'd be a whole trial, and then before the verdict, after the trial, but just before the verdict, someone's gonna step forward and kill them?
		Is that what you're suggesting?
unidentified		Well, I would think that, you know, there's somebody that'd have to take on this type of job would have great concern.
vincent bugliosi ▲ ● ▼		Well, I'm looking for a courageous prosecutor out there.
		About two weeks ago, not even that long, maybe a week and a half ago, the publisher sent out Uh, a copy of my book, Prosecution of George Bush for Murder, to each of the 50 state attorney generals in this country, with a cover letter from me, asking the prosecutor to read the book, and if they agree that the evidence of Bush's guilt is clear, and that there's jurisdiction that they proceed against him, they can't prosecute him right now, but they can commence the criminal investigation of him.
		And I offered my services to the prosecutor in whichever way he or she sees fit, which would range from being a consultant all the way up to and including being appointed a special prosecutor.
		I certainly would not be averse to prosecuting George W. Bush for murder, and I can tell you right now that unquestionably I would seek the death penalty against him.
		I mean, here's a guy, by the way, who was very much in favor of the death penalty, probably had the highest execution rate In the history of any governor, 152 cases came across his desk when he was governor of Texas.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And by the way, he would give press conferences and then giggle and laugh about it and talk about how they begged him.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I mean, if you're gonna execute somebody, you don't make jokes about it.
vincent bugliosi ▲ ● ▼		No, of course, but he signed off on 152 of 152, even signed off on a death warrant for a young man who was mentally retarded.
		So I would seek the death penalty against him.
		I gotta think there's at least one courageous prosecutor out there, and I'm gonna be looking for him.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Hey, Frankie, we gotta go to break.
		We gotta go to break.
		Thank you for the call, Frankie.
		More calls straight ahead.
		David, Walt, Steve and others.
		There is no doubt that Vincent Bugliosi is treading where angels fear to tread.
		I mean, there is no doubt that it is.
		This guy has really got a lot of will and nerve because we're dealing with global mafia here.
		George Bush is just their front man.
		We'll be right back.
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alex jones ▲ ● ▼		We're gonna take you inside the Senator Ted Stevens indictment for about 20-30 minutes with Dr. Nick Baggage coming up in 20 minutes.
		Then Bob Chapman coming on to break down some of the financial developments that have been happening in the fourth hour.
		Open phones then for Bob Chapman.
		For the next 19 minutes, we are joined by Vincent Bugliosi, best-selling author many times over, one of the most successful prosecutors in U.S. history, also of the Manson family.
		His book, Despite a Media Blackout, a Dominant Corporate Media Blackout, is number nine on the New York Times bestseller list.
		The prosecution of George W. Bush for murder.
		It's very important that this book go to number one, so it cannot be ignored.
		It's not being ignored now, he's already been before Congress, uh, boldly saying prosecute Bush for murder.
		You can hear gasp and freak-outs by the little neocon fake conservatives up there, who destroyed the name of conservatism in this country.
		Absolute trash.
		Uh, and the cowardly Democrats who were basically tw- had their arms twisted into even allowing the hearings, trying to shut them down, but they couldn't shut down Vincent Bugliosi.
		Let's go to your phone calls.
		David in Montreal, Canada, you're on the air.
		Go ahead, David, you're on the air.
		He's listening to his radio.
		Let's move on.
		Walt. Walt in Michigan.
		You're on the air.
		Go ahead.
unidentified		I'd like to have a couple questions for Mr. Bugliosi.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Go ahead.
unidentified		Are you willing to also recommend the prosecution of Knight of Malta, George Tenet, and all the other members of the Knights of Malta that are running this country for Rome?
		And are you willing to prosecute those high-level Roman Catholics for their complicit involvement in this false war in Iraq?
		As well as 9-11?
vincent bugliosi ▲ ● ▼		Well, this is, Comalto, or whatever you said, I'm not familiar with that term, Walt, but at the grand jury hearings, not hearings, but the testimony before the grand jury, and documents would be subpoenaed, of course, and there'd be investigators interviewing people.
vincent bugliosi ▲ ● ▼		All types of information and evidence would come out at this date right now.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		So you're saying you'd be looking, you'd be looking at Genito?
vincent bugliosi ▲ ● ▼		Well, yeah, but at this particular point, certainly Bush did not conspire with himself.
		He didn't do it himself.
		He conspired with others, and the two that would almost undoubtedly be prosecuted along with him, and I talk about it in the book, are Condoleezza Rice and Dick Cheney.
		I have a sense that Rove is up over his head in this, but the grand jury testimony would probably answer that question.
		Rumsfeld, I'm not sure about.
		I have a sense about Powell.
		That is only sin, is weakness.
		But in answer to your question, the grand jury proceedings would be determined with the accompanying investigation.
		Who joined with Bush in taking this nation to war on a lie?
		But right now, off the top of my head, I would say certainly there's Bush, Cheney, and Rice.
		Whether there are more than that, I don't know.
		Possibly Tenet also.
unidentified		Mr. Bugliosi, one more thing.
unidentified		You need to read a book called Vatican Assassins, Wounded, and Housewife Friends, which talks about 9-11 and all the people behind it.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Listen, I appreciate your call.
		Hey, Walt, we don't screen your calls.
		We let you on there.
		And, by the way, the Vatican has been against the war over there.
		I'm not Catholic.
		I'm not getting in the middle of this.
		And I'll let you come on and ask your question.
		But the person you talk about has told nothing but lies and BS about me, so I know the stuff he's saying, that is his view, is a bunch of lunacy.
		Okay? Mr. Bigliosi, it's just craziness.
		And so we're here trying to talk about serious issues.
		You say, yes, I'd look at trying to go after Tenet and that isn't enough.
		And then people that have slandered me and my family, said horrible things about me, have to then make this show about selling their dirty book.
		Okay? And I don't mean that the Vatican is involved in evil or the Nazis in World War II.
		I have guests on about that, like Jim Marsh.
		But serious historical people who don't run around Uh, Shane lies about me.
		So just, this isn't the place for you to do that.
		Go hawk your bull somewhere else, pal.
		That same guy says they drop bombs out of flying saucers and it's, and the nuclear bombs are magical and black people need to be put in another country and everything else.
		Okay? But then since I don't hail your god, I'm bad.
		This is the mental illness of the American people.
		We have a very serious person on the air, talking about serious issues, not quack garbage.
		I'm sorry, Mr. Bugliosi.
		I tried to let him run with his question, and it was serious, and it just turned into pure bull.
		We'll be right back with more of your phone calls from Vincent Bugliosi.
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alex jones ▲ ● ▼		The mayor of Anchorage, he is running against Senator Ted Stevens, and he's the guy that wants to shut the Internet down.
		Just completely out of his mind, he says the Internet is a bunch of tubes and It's just unbelievable that you've, quote, dumped stuff on, like a truck.
		I mean, just out of his mind, like McCain, who has said that he doesn't use a computer, doesn't know how to use a computer, just that they are not connected to reality.
		And that's what scares me.
		You know, we want to think the government's in control, even if it's evil, but that they know what they're doing, and they certainly have their systems and their corrupt bureaucracies and the corporate interest, but more and more, It's not an act.
		A lot of people in the power structure, and this happens throughout history, have now gotten so decadent, so inbred, so spoiled, that I think they think they're in control, but I think they're losing control.
		Like the neocons want to attack on Iran, when every analyst we've had on, hundreds of them, says doubling in oil prices, depression, could start World War III, but they still want it.
		Your comments on that, Vincent Bugliosi, then we're going to go back to calls.
vincent bugliosi ▲ ● ▼		Well, you're asking me to comment on something that One of my strengths, if I have any strengths, is that I know my limitations.
vincent bugliosi ▲ ● ▼		And I think you're asking me to comment on something that's outside my area of expertise.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		But obviously starting a new war is not a good idea.
vincent bugliosi ▲ ● ▼		Oh! The Iran thing?
		You know, I'm telling you, I'm so immersed in this Bush thing.
		I know about the Bush administration giving an indication that they may go to war in Iran.
		I know about that.
		I'm not reading any of the articles.
		I got a stack of papers up the ceiling and magazines I just haven't read.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		We've got tunnel vision on the issue at hand.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		That's why you're such a good prosecutor.
vincent bugliosi ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely. I don't want to see Bush in court being prosecuted for murder.
		But I've heard about the Iranian thing, but I haven't studied it at all.
		Therefore, I should not be found out on it.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I understand, sir.
		Specializing is what you're doing.
		Let's go ahead and take another call here.
		Let's talk to Stephen Alabama.
		You're on the air.
		Go ahead.
unidentified		Hey, Alex.
unidentified		I have a quick question for Mr. Bugliotti, and then I'd like to comment on Cy Hirsch, if you'll allow it.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, go ahead.
unidentified		Uh, Mr. Bugliosi, is it legal to set up a private fund, uh, or a bounty, if you will, to be awarded to the first prosecutor who will take this case?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's a bribe.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		That's illegal.
unidentified		It's illegal?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, let's get the prosecutors.
		Let's get...
		Hold on, hold on.
		Let's get his take.
		I just blurted that out.
vincent bugliosi ▲ ● ▼		Well, you...
		I don't know if I know the answer to that.
		Uh, if you offer money to influence a public act, That is bribery.
		Whether this particular thing would fall within the realm of bribery, I don't know.
		Off the top of my head, it sounds like bribery.
		Although bribery always, as you know, is behind the scenes.
		It's covert.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		But that sounds like something Karl Rove would do to then discredit the whole process of going after them for crimes.
		That's a dirty trick.
		That's called black propaganda, and that is a horrible idea.
		I'm not mad at you for...
vincent bugliosi ▲ ● ▼		Here's the other thing I'm concerned about.
		If this were to go to trial, it would be the biggest murder trial in American history, and I hope if there's a prosecutor out there that steps forward that he's not doing so just for the enormous publicity.
		Wherever he is, in Fargo, North Dakota, Lexington, Kentucky, the whole world press would be at his door.
		He'd be on the cover of every magazine.
		So let's hope if a prosecutor steps forward, it's not for publicity, but to bring about justice for the American people.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Now, here's an example.
		Let's say a real prosecutor steps forward, is willing to risk their life and their name and everything else, with this clear-cut case Vince Bugliosi and others have put together, I guarantee you the White House would have some clown pop up who would act crazy and ridiculous and probably talk about flying saucers at the meetings.
		And at the press conferences, you discredit the whole thing.
		I mean, they've got a lot of dirty tricks, folks.
		I mean, Karl Rove got caught bugging his own office.
		Don't forget that.
		You know, back when he was at the state here in Texas.
		So, I mean, they play all sorts of games, but I'm not mad at you for asking the question, Steve.
		It's a good question, because we could then answer it, but anything else?
unidentified		My point about the Cy Hirst story actually plays into, you know, dirty tricks, which It's basically, you know, in listening to the story, and again, I probably know about as much as Mr. Bugliotti, I've just kind of heard what you've been saying about it and read a little bit about it, but, you know, the story, that story just doesn't add up for me right now,
		like, number one, I just find it kind of odd that it would be leaked at all, and number two, uh, the fact that they were, you know, purportedly talking about using Navy SEALs as the decoys, uh, just seems a little strange to me when, you know, why wouldn't they just Uh, you know, grab one of these goat herders out of the, uh, torture prison, put them on a remote-controlled boat, and, you know, and bail them out there.
		Blow it up.
		It just, you know...
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Please don't give them ideas, please, and I appreciate your call.
		Goodness, goodness gracious, don't give them ideas here.
		Uh, listen.
		You judge a tree by its fruits.
		You will know them by their fruits.
		Cy Hirsch broke the torture Information on Operation Phoenix in Vietnam.
		He broke a bunch of other things.
		There are people in CIA, in FBI, in Defense Intelligence, in the White House that do not like what's going on.
		And so he has been leaked info over and over and over and over and over again that has proven to be accurate.
		And so, no, this is somebody in a big White House boardroom meeting, strategy session, who is upset and doesn't like what's happening.
		And we know Cy Hirsch has incredible sources.
		And I mean, look, we have, I'm going to play it later, we have the tapes of Rumsfeld with the war correspondents who are all former generals and colonels saying, man, we're shooting another 9-11, that would sure help us for some incident.
		Well, yeah, stuff eventually comes out, but... Frequently behind the scenes, the Pentagon Papers was leaked to the New York Times.
vincent bugliosi ▲ ● ▼		But we need more people being stand-up people like you, Alex, and telling the truth and letting the chips fall where they may.
		There aren't too many of those people in America, unfortunately.
		I'm trying to think of his name.
		Mark Twain.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Boy. In the beginning, the Patriots was a scarce man.
vincent bugliosi ▲ ● ▼		Don't get old, Alex, but Mark Twain Yes.
		Yes. Interview the book.
		Have me on.
		They're just terrified.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And by the way...
vincent bugliosi ▲ ● ▼		They even talk about prosecuting Bush for murder.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And by the way, you can get on TV.
		I mean, you've been on TV, I would guess, hundreds of times.
		I mean, you know, in just more modern times, you're on all the time.
		You're the go-to guy on so many issues.
		Suddenly, you're not on CNN, Fox, MSNBC.
vincent bugliosi ▲ ● ▼		CNN, after the Wall Street article, I mean, the New York Times article had me on CNN.
		Because of the New York Times article, they interviewed me for 20-25 minutes on tape, and they put out an incredible piece of about four minutes that was so distorted, it was beyond recognition.
		It almost sounded like a Bush propaganda piece.
		To give you an example, they asked me, what's the likelihood that this thing will happen?
		And I said, well, there's not a high probability, and they cut me off right there.
		And I always want to say, but there's a substantial possibility that as a direct result of this book, Bush is going to find himself in an American courtroom.
		They took all that out.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And then it sounded like you said it was going nowhere.
vincent bugliosi ▲ ● ▼		I mean, I totally distorted it.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		That sounds like something...
vincent bugliosi ▲ ● ▼		Sorry. Why does no one have the courage to interview me on national television about this book?
		I don't know, but if you were the host of one of those shows, obviously you'd have the courage, but no one has stepped forward yet.
		They're terrified of talking to me about the subject matter of my book.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, let's go ahead and take another call here.
		Up next would be Will in Oklahoma.
		Go ahead, Will.
unidentified		Hi, Alex.
		Hi. This is Will.
		I'm just starting my Awakening to the New World Order agenda, and I just had a question real quick.
		I was a little confused.
		I got on the show a little late, and Mr. Bugilosi said that Hopefully one prosecutor would read the facts and would be courageous enough to prosecute.
		So I was wondering why doesn't he do that?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		He's not a sitting prosecutor in a county or city.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		He's retired.
unidentified		Okay, I have one more question.
		You said you talked about the internet becoming controlled just a minute ago to limit its use.
		And do you think that's because the government is realizing that the resistance to a radical government and the police state is gaining its strength?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yes, but also because the alternative media is kicking the butt of the mainstream media, and they're losing market share.
		It's a cocktail of reasons.
		You want to come?
		Well, he doesn't want to get off the side of the issue.
vincent bugliosi ▲ ● ▼		I didn't even hear a lot of his words.
		About his first thing, I don't know how much time we have left, but I was talking to my wife a couple days ago, and I asked her this question.
		I said, you know about these cold case files?
		You've heard about them, Alex?
		Yes. There's just one victim.
		And a lone detective pursues the killer for 10, 15, 20, 25 years.
		Then we hear stories that he's found back east, living under an assumed name.
		He's brought out to, brought back to Austin or L.A. or Berkeley or where have you, and he's prosecuted.
		And justice is brought about with just one victim.
		So I said to her, I said, there are one million victims, at least 100,000 victims in their cold graves right now, as I'm talking to you, decomposing.
		And I said, what person in authority on the face of this globe is trying to bring about justice for these, let's say, 100,000 people?
		Trying to bring about justice.
		Trying to bring the killer of these 100,000 people to justice.
		And she said to me, well, you are.
		And I said, well, you didn't hear my question.
		I said, what person in authority is doing this?
		I said, I don't have the clout of an emaciated moth.
		I'm looking for that person in authority.
		That, you know, does have the institutional authority to go after George Floyd.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you've done the work, you've put the evidence together, you're disseminating it, you're sending it out to prosecutors, and you're saying, hey folks, people always tell me I've got to do everything and I've got to fix it, and I'm like, Hey, I'm just having the guest on the info so you people know what's going on and then can make your own decisions.
		This is a team effort here.
		Many hands make light work.
		No more time for calls.
		I appreciate your call, Will, Steve, and Aaron, and others.
		I'll get to you later, but we've got to let Mr. Vincent Bugliosi go.
		The book is The Prosecution of George W. Bush for Murder, number nine on the New York Times bestseller list.
		Get it online on Amazon.
		You can also, of course, get it at bookstores everywhere.
		Mr. Boogalio, do you have a personal website?
vincent bugliosi ▲ ● ▼		No, I hate to tell you that I don't have a computer either.
		I guess McCain said he doesn't have one.
		I'm still working with a yellow pad and pencil.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		But you actually go down to the law library.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		That's different.
vincent bugliosi ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah, yeah.
		But there, you know, the prosecution of George W. Bush for murder.com, I guess.
		It's put out by Vanguard Press.
		It's in all the stores and Amazon.com, and it's selling well.
		We'd like to get it up to number one to get the message out to the majority of Americans so that a prosecutor will be more apt to step forward.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, we have to punish tyranny.
		We have to punish tyranny or the precedent will be set.
		Thank you for all the time.
		We are out of time.
		We will talk to you again in the future if you'll join us again.
vincent bugliosi ▲ ● ▼		Thank you, sir, very much.
vincent bugliosi ▲ ● ▼		I appreciate it.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Take care.
		We'll be right back with Dr. Nick Begich and a lot more.
		Stay with us.
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alex jones ▲ ● ▼		For the next 35 minutes or so, we've got Dr. Nick Bagachum.
		We'll open the phones up in the next segment.
		Any subject you want to discuss, you can talk about.
		I'm trying to get his brother on with him next Monday.
		I had the idea a few days ago and then didn't implement it.
		It's his brother, the former mayor of Anchorage.
		His father, of course, both their fathers.
		Both of them's father was a famous congressman from up in the northern area there in Alaska who died mysteriously in a plane crash.
		And Ted Stevens, the monster who tried to end the internet.
		I mean, you shut down one hub, most of the web shuts down.
		He wanted to kill net neutrality two years ago.
		We barely beat him.
		They're back at it again through the companies themselves doing it.
		And I remember having Dr. Nick Begichon two years ago saying, this guy is a crook.
		And Nick Begich doesn't talk like that without evidence piled to the rafters.
		And so he is the brother Of the man running against him for the Senate seat, and the man who looks like he's probably going to win if we get behind him, which we need to do.
		Imagine having Nick Begich's brother, who knows all about all this stuff, getting into the Senate.
		Just amazing.
		And we're not giving the New World Order a heads up, they know that.
		Tell us why you said two years ago on this show that he was as dirty as it gets.
nick begich ▲ ● ▼		Well, you know, there was a good friend of mine who had run against him years ago, had sort of dredged up the record, and then when you start to look at things that we knew were coming out in terms of oil and gas and what special interests, you know, the various people up here are connected to, you start to get a pretty good read on what's happening.
		And then it was, man, it was four years ago that I ran against one of the guys who eventually got Indicted two years later.
		And then Stevens was implicated through his son, who was president of our state senate at the time.
		In fact, we're still waiting to see the indictments come that direction.
		But already, I think five legislators or past legislators are already in prison.
		Two others are slated who were wired up for, I guess, close to a year in some cases.
		But Stevens was sort of the top guy in this whole chain, this whole feeding frenzy.
		And when you look at The establishment here in Alaska, what they've done is basically appropriate huge federal and state resources to multinational corporations like there was a fire sale going on.
		And all of that starting to unravel and the people who make the money like this, the deal here in Alaska, what happened is Bill Allen, who was a welder, you know, back in the 80s and had no real anything, became sort of the shill for the oil industry up here.
		His deal was he would get us to become a subcontractor And get all these huge subcontracts, which he did.
		He had billions, literally billions of dollars in work, and even after he was indicted, and I guess he has to serve ten years, but he spared his family, his wife and children, who were also indicted by the IRS, and Federal Bureau of Investigation, and others, for criminal activity.
		The kids, and he got, his wife got off, and he got a minimal sentence, pretty old guy, but he wore a wire for almost a year.
		And had raised millions and millions.
		He sold his company.
		That was part of the deal.
		He had to get out of the contracting business.
		So he still got, I think, $390 million for that deal.
		But he had to keep the money.
		He'll pay back the IRS, whatever he owed them, and do some other things.
		But Stephen's office, and actually his home here, Senator Stephen's home and his son's office, home and businesses, were all raided by the FBI and the IRS.
		Because of all of the things have gone on and one of the ways they did this was Bill Allen did the remodel on Ted Stephens' house.
		And Ted Stephens paid for $130,000 worth of the work, but kind of forgot about a quarter of a million dollars worth of the work or somebody did.
		And that's the deal is he got a quarter of a million in gifts that never got reported on his federal forms, because you got to report gifts over 300 bucks in some of those years, because they go back to 2003.
		And it's from this contractor.
		And the same contractor was the one who implicated all the guys who were already in jail.
		And there was a senator identified.
		There was a Senator A and a Senator B. And one of these was his son, eventually identified in our media.
		And there's still two grand juries seated.
		This was the one in Washington, D.C. that just came down with all the stuff that people are reading about right now.
		And there's still a grand jury in Washington state looking at fisheries corruption because Ted Stevens was passing legislation granting money to fisheries organizations who had kind of a understanding that 10% of that went to his kid, who was president of the Senate at the time.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		So there's just all sorts of corruption going on.
nick begich ▲ ● ▼		Oh, in fact, you know, here we have a gas line, right, that we're trying to build to relieve the rest of the country of the problems, you know, and so there's big things happening there, and we've talked about them in the past.
		And one of, you know, when you look at that, it's the stranglehold on all of this.
		And what the end result is, is private companies are making huge, huge money because they were able to buy legislators here on a wholesale basis.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		All right, stay there.
		Dr. Nick Baggich, I want to come back and talk more about this and get into some other geopolitical issues that are going on and take calls.
		He's with us for the rest of the hour.
		Appreciate him joining us.
		His brother, the former mayor of Anchorage, and of course their father, a famous congressman, his brother is running for Stephen's seat and is doing very well in the polls.
		We can only hope and pray that he gets elected.
		We'll be right back with Dr. Nick Begich.
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alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I want to bring up Next, for Dr. Nick Begich, who has worked in so many different areas of private industry, teaching, representing the native tribes up in Alaska, his father a congressman, his brother in government.
		I want to bring up something, because I'm here in the middle of Texas, and I read the oil and gas news, and I have family that, you know, work as mid-level and low-level people for oil and gas companies, and so I hear them talking about it.
		And, uh, even before the New London Kilo decision of, what, now almost three years ago, they passed laws in the legislature of Texas that said, oh, you have a landowner bill of rights.
		But the Landover Bill of Rights says that if oil companies or gas companies, uh, or coal companies, lignite mining here, surface coal, if they want to come on your property and you won't sell it, you basically, if you don't take their first offer, It takes you out of the regular court system and puts you into administrative law, and then you have to pay court costs, and then end up almost getting nothing.
		Now, a new London Kelo decision, the media gave it the attention that it said, well, not only is it for government interest now, but of a, in the case there, a big drug company, it was Eli Lilly there in Connecticut, wanted to tear down a nice neighborhood.
		You know, usually it's okay if they're stealing land from poor people, but these were $300,000, $600,000, you know, two, three-story Victorian homes on On the lake, on the river there.
		And they literally just came and took the houses.
		And people who had fought in court, wanting more money or not wanting to sell, some of them, you know, the grandparents had been born there.
		They would then say, okay, now you owe us half a million dollars on your half a million dollar house.
		You owe us money.
		You get nothing.
		And in those cases, they were also coming to houses worth, in one case, $332,000.
		I remember it was in the paper and I had locals on.
		And, um, They would offer them $62,000 just for the lot's value.
		So the point I'm getting at here is then I started researching this and found out the model for this was really built in a few of the states where you have 85, 90 plus percent in some cases, like Nevada, like Utah, or Alaska, and that they would just come in and either lay resources off,
		use, or give it to select groups, or even come on private property, And now in Texas I've been reading about, if a landowner won't sign an oil lease for the company, they just cut the fence now and are driving on, in some cases drilling, and then under the law they caught up to pay damages, but the way they've rigged it, those damages could basically be less than what a regular oil or gas lease would be.
		And so I'm just now learning about that it was worse than I thought, and I know Dr. Nick Baggage has represented tribes in this, and his father and his brother, so he's a real expert on this, because Alaska's one of the places where, what, it's 90 plus percent federal, And so there's a lot of this happening and that's some of the things Stevens was also tied into.
		Again, you have more experience than this than I do.
		Can you put into common sense language kind of the smorgasbord I just threw out?
nick begich ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you know the background on this is really important and it starts with statehood back in 1958.
		This is a big issue because in statehood we were an independent territory to some extent.
		We were controlled by the U.S. but as a territory We should have been offered a lot of different things.
		Well, one of the deals that was made in the statehood negotiations was the state would give up its surfaces state in exchange for its mineral rights and oil and gas rights.
		Where the federal government ever had any of those rights, the state would get 90% of the rents and royalties paid to the federal government.
		In exchange, we gave up a huge amount of our surfaces state, because under the Constitution, the federal government was only supposed to get You know, post offices, military bases, and that was pretty much it.
		You know, and the parks and all this other stuff came in various land acts from the 1920s on up.
		Well, the biggest land act in Alaska, aside from statehood, was the Native Land Claims Settlement Act, which transferred 44 million acres and about $950 million to the Native corporations here in Alaska as a first settlement.
		And that gave them essentially 9% Of everything, because they got the mineral rights, energy rights, and everything, and had a priority selection before the state perfected its statehood selections, and out of all federal land, which is basically everything at the time.
		And so, that happened, and then there was a million acres that went to the Mental Health Trust, which was set up to cover mental health issues for Alaskans, so the federal government didn't have to underwrite it, so way back before statehood, they set up a university trust and gave them a million acres and set up a Mental Health Trust gave them a million acres.
		The idea was they would develop revenues from minerals and energy and surface rights to run their institutions so that the public didn't have to pay for them.
		But it was paid for out of public resources, which kind of makes sense when you think about a territory not being a state, not having representatives in the Senate or the House, and having sort of this caretaker relationship.
		When oil was discovered, you know, everything changed.
		You had to have the Native Land Claims Settlement Act because you couldn't get the international bankers to underwrite the pipeline.
		And that's when my dad was in Congress.
		He'd got the Native Land Claims done in his freshman year and then was working on the pipeline issue when he and the majority leader for the U.S. House disappeared.
		And Stevens was in office then.
		He was still in the Senate.
		He was appointed in 68. He didn't win an election.
		He was actually appointed because of a vacancy in 68. And then won his subsequent elections.
		And Stevens, and you know, goes back, I mean, to pre-statehood.
		He was here as a BIA attorney, or Department of Interior, rather, attorney, way back then.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		So he's one of the original dirtbags in all of this.
nick begich ▲ ● ▼		He had a lot of respect, absolutely.
		And you know, the thing is, he's done a lot for Alaska in a lot of ways, and no one can, you know, begrudge that.
		But what's happened is, over the decades, You kind of lose your perspective, and I'll tell you how all the payoffs work, how they get around the rules so people get a bigger picture of this.
		You know, I mean, it's from the simplest things.
		Like, and I'm not saying necessarily this is about Ted Stevens, but about politicians in general.
		You know, they'll get involved in the poker game against the lobbyists.
		And man, that lobbyist is just folding on four of a kind, you know?
		And making sure the other guy is walking away with the table.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, that came out with the CIA director.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		They go to the Watergate Hotel and there's hookers on one floor, alcohol and drugs if they want them on another, and you go in there and you win $100,000 a week if you want to go play poker with the defense contractors.
nick begich ▲ ● ▼		Right, and this is the kind of illegal stuff that these guys slide around on.
		The other is, of course, speaking fees after they're out of office, and when they can keep the money.
		And, you know, who's worth a million bucks for a speech?
		I mean, get real.
		It's a payoff.
		It's like, okay, you followed the party line, and you did what you were told, and now is the big payoff.
		And so, one of the other ways is they get to invest in a little ... project that Joe Blow has, and, oh, for 50 grand, don't worry, you're gonna make a million in the first year.
		And they do!
		You know, they're the ones that you're warned about.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		That's like Hillary and the cattle futures.
		I mean, around here also, that's how they do it.
		A corrupt developer or somebody else will come by from a city council person.
		Barack Obama's been caught doing this.
		A piece of land that's worth 200 grand on the tax rolls, well, they'll just pay 600,000.
		Or vice versa, the politician will own a piece of land worth 100,000 and it gets bought for 300,000.
nick begich ▲ ● ▼		Right, and this happens, or the trade, one of the other things that happened with Stevens was a car, you know, it was a classic Mustang, traded for a $44,000 car, and the problem was there's no...
		and $5,000 in cash, but if you add up the highest book values on these, because they're available, Mustangs are available, He got about a $20,000 discrepancy from reality to what he did.
		So you start looking at all that.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Okay, now we know that's low-level, though.
		We know he was kind of becoming an embarrassing, doddering, senile person saying silly things on TV.
		Meanwhile, we have Halliburton getting $16 million for a $100 blue tarp.
		We've got no-bid contracts, trillions missing from the Pentagon, all this corruption.
		It looked like Stevens was doing everything they told him.
		Was it because he became an embarrassment with the bridge to nowhere?
		Why did they go ahead and burn him?
unidentified		You know, I think not so much.
nick begich ▲ ● ▼		That is, you know, he's kind of an angry guy if you've ever watched him.
		You know, it's not really the public service image that you get.
		It's kind of the bully.
		And that's not public service.
		A lot of people tolerated it.
		But, you know, at the end of the day, your friends are a whole other matter.
		And he has a lot of friends, for sure.
		But I think at the end of the day, it's...
		Really, he did a lot, you know, in terms of the earmarking process, and he tried to block that so they wouldn't have to report who, you know, signed up for what.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but what he did was just help take the oil and gas from the people, and then just give them a bunch of, quote, free federal money, and then advertise what a great job he'd done.
nick begich ▲ ● ▼		Right, and let's talk about the transfer of wealth.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Let me ask you this, are you aware of the fact that they're passing laws in all the states In many of the several states, where now they're just running in and grabbing oil and gas on people's land without even asking?
nick begich ▲ ● ▼		They tried to do it here and there was 1,200 people burned, showed up and burned the local legislator in effigy because he was taking money from the company trying to do it here.
		And they actually stopped it.
		And you know, there's the estates, the way they're split out, the surface estate, And the mineral rights and the energy rights, they all run separately.
		And the water rights for a lot of states.
		On the East Coast, there's some provisions for energy rights.
		And in Texas, there are some titles that go back far enough where people had energy rights.
		But a lot of it is a situation where it's a split estate.
		And you're right.
		And the thing about those takings is there was a U.S. Supreme Court decision that said they can take, not in the public interest in an eminent domain case, but also For the benefit of some private company, and they deem that that private company's success is in the public interest.
		Yeah, it's like, and you want to talk about fascism?
		I mean, how much more corporate does it get with a marriage with government?
		And this is the ultimate welfare.
		Oil and gas here, on the offshore resources that are being auctioned off like there's a fire sale going on, have enough proven value, according to our own USGS, To be valued today at $36 trillion.
		If we did what 80% of the rest of the world does, is they have state-owned oil companies and they contract to the oil and gas companies so they make a profit that's privately run, you know, in terms of efficiency.
		Because they get a little bit over the cost of operations, 8, 9, 10%.
		But that much money would retire our national debt three times over.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And if the government wasn't sitting on top, how much of the state is under federal control?
nick begich ▲ ● ▼		It's about 70% and all the offshore outside of the three-mile limit and in Alaska outside the three-mile limit are the big, gigantic, huge...
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		So that should be opened up, I mean, not just the land, but the sea to U.S. companies and citizens, but no, it's for the environment.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And they use a few hippies as the front as having to do with the environment, does it?
nick begich ▲ ● ▼		No, it doesn't.
nick begich ▲ ● ▼		In fact, the big foundations that underwrite a lot of this, Rockefeller Foundation, some of the others, you know, it's about tying up the resource sort of as a safety deposit box for the future for multinationals.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And artificial scarcity.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And artificial scarcity.
nick begich ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, and then they get the price up.
		Everybody's worrying about getting gas money to work, and I appreciate that.
		I mean, I know what that's about.
		And the fact is, It shouldn't be this way, but now they'll get to develop it.
		And you know, a lot of this, when you start to think about it, it's a fire sale that could solve our national problems, and instead, in a more balanced way with industry.
		And as it is, people are going to freeze in the dark again this winter.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, my point is, is there a lot of private landowners from the Dakotas to Texas to even Alaska I'm reading about, and Utah.
		Where they never get the oil and gas or coal off their property.
		By the time the companies are done, they might get one-one, you know, thousands of what they were supposed to get.
		And it's just getting so corrupt.
		It's just so...
nick begich ▲ ● ▼		And the fairness of this is about legislation.
		You know, and it's got to be starting...
		They need to change it to where the surface estate holder, even though they've segregated those rights, at least in the sense of In the future, we need to have them run the way they used to, where you had some water rights, you had some mineral rights, you had your timber rights, you know, and make sure they run together.
		And where they're separated, there needs to be a lot more consideration of the surface-to-state holder when these developments are planned.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's another big scam, then.
nick begich ▲ ● ▼		We have 1% privately held outside of the native corporations, state, federal, and local land.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		1% privately held in Alaska?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And then what is it, 5% privately held in Nevada?
nick begich ▲ ● ▼		I think it's something like that.
		And, you know, the native corporations hold, you know, 9%, which is great.
		And they're using it in really, really good ways.
		But the state and the federal government, you know, they had homesteading here up until the mid-60s, and you could still get trade sites up until the early 70s.
		And they cut all that out.
		And, you know, that was the way in which you transferred to the average person based on hard work.
		Believe me.
		Really hard work.
		Certain rights that you could have.
		Well, they cut all that off.
		And the federal government has retained huge, vast estate, and then on the Statehood Act that said we were supposed to get 90%, U.S. Supreme Court said they could change that at will, and they did in the course of the National Naval Petroleum Reserve, and they're giving us half instead of 90%.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Meanwhile, this is so complex.
		This is so complex that even educated people have terrible understanding, and that's why we're going into tyranny.
		It's just unbelievable.
		Right. The things that are going on, and I see examples of lignite mines all over Central Texas, East Texas, where somebody doesn't want their family ranch or farm bulldozed, and the companies aren't even offering a market value, and then if they fight it, they basically end up almost getting nothing because they fought it, and they've codified it into fraudulent state law to really legalize stealing.
nick begich ▲ ● ▼		Right, and this is a...
		Here in Alaska, you know, the surface of states, even when they're doing public right-of-ways, and it's like running over a business, they actually compensate them for fair market value based on independent appraisals.
		The state does.
		And they cover their business losses for some period of time as they're being disrupted and moved.
		And those settlements, I've never heard of them going to court.
		People have always felt like they got fair value in negotiating it.
		But I agree, in most states it doesn't happen.
		And what happened up here that caused a big Outcry is the state leased what are called cold bed methanes, which are shallow leases that are non-competitive, and they can go up to 3,000 foot wells.
		And in the Mat-Su Valley, which is highly populated, they decided to hire the local legislator to be their PR guy.
		And this was a cabinetmaker by trade, so he was their PR guy.
		They burned him in effigy.
		He was almost thrown out of office, but decided not to run for health reasons.
		As the recall petitions were perfected and filed with the state a few years ago, and you know, all of this kind of nonsense, and the surface of stateholders said, wait a minute.
		You're not coming in my yard, literally, and punching a hole in the ground and not talking to me about it.
		Now, there's some people that wanted to do that, that had big acreage where it wouldn't disturb other landowners, and fine, they negotiated their deals, and I guess there's some guys that are Actually getting permitted and going to go forward, but they did it on a wholesale basis, you know, the whole area.
		And, you know, people were totally upset.
		So they redid the process now to where there's a better public process, and they killed most of that.
		And it seems to be working, where people are getting fair value.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		All right, I want to shift gears completely out of this, because we're going to come back and take a few final calls for you and let you go, and I'm going to try to get you and your brother on.
		not next week but job have you seen the latest just came out last night i don't expect you have only your take on it headline cheney neocons considered killing americans in pretext to attack iran at a media conference a few weeks ago on the youtube videos out there At the Campus Progress Journalism Conference, Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist Seymour Hersh revealed how neocons convened around Dick Cheney a few months ago and brainstormed ways to kick off World War IV, as they finally call it.
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nick begich ▲ ● ▼		you know it well it's access you see and that's the thing that's so important to these guys they they or themselves out for that little bit of access to otherwise you know this administration's famous for just turning you off But they gotta report something.
		So, you know, that's the way it goes.
		And nobody picks it up.
		You know, it virtually goes nowhere.
		It hit a little blip on the radar screen for 30 seconds and was gone.
		You know, and that's how these things play out.
		And it's because there's way, way too much power.
		And there's no check in that power.
		I mean, when you can, for a few grand and a few trinkets, bribe your Congress, which is what's gone on, and your legislatures in places where it matters, And what happens is, slowly and over time, it erodes not just the integrity of that Constitution, but it erodes our lifestyles as Americans.
		And look around, from NAFTA to all of the ridiculous trade agreements...
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Stay there, got a break.
		Finish the point after the break.
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alex jones ▲ ● ▼		We're going to keep Dr. Baggett's under five minutes with us in the next hour, and then we're going to get his brother on Monday.
		That's getting lined out right now.
		He's agreed to come on.
		We just got to get it on a schedule.
		And I want to take a few calls here that are going to be all over the map, but that's fine.
		You've got info on everything.
		And let's give out your brother's website as well.
		He was already leading in the polls against Ted Stevens, Mr. Kill the Internet, Mr. Accepting Gifts, Ted Stevens.
		But now it's really looking good.
		I mean, I don't want to jinx anything, but it looks like your brother is going to be the next senator from Alaska.
nick begich ▲ ● ▼		It looks very good for him.
		He's in double digits as of the latest polls going this week.
		He's going to have a tough race.
		He's raised a million and a quarter in four months from 4,100 people, which is an incredible base to work from.
		And a lot of those are outside of Alaska.
		So people want to get involved in this campaign.
		that way go to baggage b_e_g_ i_c_ h dot com and uh...
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		get involved in his campaign he's gonna make a big difference for not just alaska but for the rest of the country baggage dot com while and i'm gonna enjoy the access through you and getting him on once he is a senator uh...
		written just uh...
		i mean over time has been here on the air for thirteen years you to know more people on as they feel move into more positions that's just how it works and No, they're always scared of the people in alternative media because they know history and they know what highly motivated groups can do.
		And so many of my listeners are great, but so many others get mad when we have celebrities on or mad when we have big people on and get upset and suspicious when You know, Governor Ventura or all these other people come on and say 9-11 is an inside job.
		No, folks, we're starting to turn the corner.
		We don't need to be beautiful losers.
		We need to win.
		And I think realizing that we can win and having that attitude is a big part of the battle, Doctor.
nick begich ▲ ● ▼		I agree with you.
		And, you know, you're only defeated when you stop breathing, you know.
		I mean, then it's over and then whatever happens happens, you know.
		But there's a lot to say for what a few people can do.
		And, you know, my family, although we're different in a lot of our politics, Certain things are fundamental.
		You know, in the personal privacy issues, gun ownership, the things that are important to most Americans to keep the government honest are the same for us.
		And, you know, that's what's been missing in so much of this is a recognition of where the root of the Constitution lies, and that is in the freedoms and the liberty to debate, to have discussion.
		When you have things like the Internet, the 21st century communication tool, It would have been like our founding fathers being told, no more mail unless we open it all.
		You know, and there would have been another revolution.
		The fact is, the privacy issues, the complex issues of today require a new generation of leadership out of both parties.
		And that's what's long overdue.
		And Ted Stevens, in 40 years, has done some things for Alaska that are great.
		But at this stage of his career, he has lost touch with the fundamentals of what government is.
		You know, when I was a tribal administrator, we invited a man Four different occasions to come and see what our tribe was doing.
		And rather than ever show up or allow anyone on his staff to come, even when it was arranged, he preempted it.
		And it was because he wanted to wipe out every tribal government in Alaska to even solidify more power for a federal agency that already has way more than they need, not just here but everywhere else.
		And the things that he does have authority to get to do I like oil and gas have been given away when we could have been negotiating much better deals with the oil industry and paying off the national debt.
		I mean, think about that for your grandchildren.
		We could have done it this generation and we still can't.
		And that requires a different view.
		of how government works and and a different view of what the public resources should be generating in fair market value and that's what's not happening with our natural resources in Alaska.
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alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Nick Begich.
		He is the brother of the man who is set to beat, knock on wood, Ted Stevens, the crook.
		He is such a gentleman, he is trying to be nice to Ted Stevens.
		Ted Stevens is a complete monster.
		Let's go ahead and talk to Aaron in California, then Betsy and Ingrid.
		Trying to get to Judith and Catherine.
unidentified		Hi, Alex.
		Hi, Dr. Begich.
		I wanted to call you about HAARP, actually.
		I know that back in 2001, they had 180 antennas, and now I believe it's at 360, they're finishing it here in 2008.
		I mean, just how much power is that?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, I had the director of Harp on a month ago, and he said they have 3 million watts.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Is that correct, Dr. Begich?
nick begich ▲ ● ▼		You know, in terms of input power, but it's not a good descriptor, because you have to do the antenna gain and factor in also what happens when you capitalize on energy.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
		Take FM with different types of dibold.
		You can put 10 watts in and get 40 watts out.
		and effective uh...
nick begich ▲ ● ▼		radiated power right and so you've got to do the multipliers and so you've actually got uh...
		you're approaching that a hundred eighty antenna uh...
		you're getting about half to where they have a bob billion lots of effective radiated power in their headed up to three hundred sixty Actually, they have 180 constructed right now.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		You know, I should have brought this up.
		I had the director on audio.
		I had him on for an hour.
		But there were military officers, who wouldn't say they were, popping in during the breaks and then waiting.
		And then, you can't say that, but over the line, where people on air couldn't hear it.
		And then, the guy admitted that they can turn the Aurora Borealis basically on.
		Did you hear that?
nick begich ▲ ● ▼		Right. In fact, I've got to listen to that track.
		One of your folks sent that over to me, because next time we're on, I want to talk about what they said and show really how they twist the truth.
		We just did this with Wired Magazine.
		They sent one of their associate editors up for a four and a half hour interview, and then a three hours to take one portrait.
		It was like a long couple of days.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		That's why I hate mainstream media.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		They're so slow.
nick begich ▲ ● ▼		Oh, but it's going to be very thorough.
		And I think they're going to finally put a story together that really tells the story in terms of that.
		Especially these issues that the military continues to raise.
		And we were able to get a lot of documents from the family of Ben Eastland that we were able to use to finally resolve some of those.
		We got the chronology of all the early meetings with DARPA and all of the funders and the Jason Group interactions.
		The interactions with Arco that were proprietary Arco at that time.
		In fact, I need to fax all that stuff to you in advance for that next program because you're going to be blown away.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, let me just set you up for about two weeks out.
		We'll do like an hour and a half on Harp and really talk about what it is.
		You know, I was thinking about maybe trying to get, but I see I don't think they would allow it because I mean they had like different spooks on the line while the director was on and I've never been interrogated so much, you know, once it was time for the show.
		And then they said, we want you to fly up here.
		We want to fly you up here and show you it's nice.
		And last time I checked, they're inviting me up there, but I don't know if I want to go up there.
nick begich ▲ ● ▼		Well, the thing about it is, it's like somebody going into a nuclear reactor, you know?
nick begich ▲ ● ▼		I mean, what are you going to see?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's kind of like with Haliburton.
		for his little bird now with uh...
		uh... was the good in ron in california then later secretary army while white he would lead a man to fake Yeah, exactly.
nick begich ▲ ● ▼		So, you know, when you start to look at all this and you start to see, you know, how all this blows out, what we really need is more accountability.
		More responsibility in terms of government and less corporate welfare.
		Because when you start to look at all the transfers and all the things that get shuffled around, it's all about, you know, giving someone greater access to markets or taxpayers.
		No one ever thinks about us as human beings anymore.
		And that's a whole different way of seeing the world.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		The director was also saying that these billions of affected watts of radio energy wasn't bad for people around there.
		And I said, but it's admitted.
		You don't want to get near an AM transmitter.
		And he said, no, that's not true.
		I mean, it was ridiculous.
		He sounded childlike.
		Listen, we'll talk to you soon, Dr.
		Baggage. We'll talk to your brother next week.
		Thanks for coming on with us.
nick begich ▲ ● ▼		Hey, I'm looking forward to talking with you again, and it'll always be a good program.
nick begich ▲ ● ▼		Take care.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		You bet.
		Take care.
		There goes Dr.
		Nick Baggage, his brother, about to beat Ted Stevens in the U.S.
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david miller ▲ ● ▼		On September 11th, 2001, along with hundreds of my fellow troops, I went to Ground Zero.
david miller ▲ ● ▼		And we knew what to do.

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