Alex Jones and Bob Chapman dissect claims that Vice President Dick Cheney and neocons staged terror attacks, debate the improbability of oil prices hitting $50 without hyperinflation, and analyze documents suggesting executives manipulated markets to keep prices high. They describe the financial system as a self-destructive cycle where Fed-borrowing banks crowd out business credit, leading to deflation and foreign infrastructure acquisition, while framing police harassment of sticker-wearers as evidence of government tyranny. Ultimately, the discussion promotes conspiracy theories regarding 9/11 and central banking power, painting a picture of an impending economic collapse driven by systemic corruption. [Automatically generated summary]
We've got about 52 minutes left in this live broadcast today.
And with us is Bob Chapman, TheInternationalForecaster.com.
He joins us at least once a week.
And here at the end of the week, I want to chronicle some of the things that we've seen happen in the markets.
I want to go over what we're seeing with gold and oil.
And also, I talked to Bob a few days ago, and he said, you know, the more I look at this Lindsay Williams thing, we think Lindsay Williams is a great guy.
He's put out good info in the past, means what he's saying, believes what he's saying.
We believe he was told this by this executive.
But there's just some other problems with that.
We don't know if they're trying to plant disinfo on him or if this executive believes it.
But somebody's threatening your family and saying we're going to get you if you don't shut up.
But by the way, we'll let you go out and talk about this.
When his video has been number one on Google, one of his interviews, one of the speeches he gave, tens of millions watching it every month, I mean it did become a phenomenon and I do believe he was threatened.
It's just that in the mechanics of the energy, the global energy market, exploration, delivering to market, it just doesn't line up with the facts in a lot of different places.
So we'll talk about that.
Also, I don't know if Bob Chapman's aware of this, but he's usually just as aware of the current news as I am, or more so.
But we broke yesterday here.
I mean, it came out on ThinkProgress, but we really pushed it out on Infowars.com.
We now have a more detailed article on Infowars.com.
We want everybody to get out to the four winds.
Cheney neocons considered killing Americans in pretext to attack Iran in a video posted here, YouTube, taped at the Campus Progress Journalism Conference earlier this month.
The Pulitzer Prize winning journalist, Seymour Hersh, revealed how the neocons convened around Dick Cheney and brainstormed ways to kick off World War IV, as they finally call their pet project.
Start a war in the Middle East and Central Asia.
And he went on to say they wanted to create boats, build boats and shipyards in just a few weeks that look like the same blue PT boats the Iranians use to patrol their waters.
Have Navy SEALs dress up, go in with a bunch of arms, and then attack.
It says a shootout, that means both sides, against our destroyers saying it was Iranians that maybe killed the SEALs.
And Cy Hirsch just said, you know, the newspaper didn't want to post that, you know, because they didn't carry it out.
But they did.
Our source in the White House did say this was among 11 other, 12 total, plans they had.
Now, we know they've done stuff like this before.
The White House memo, other things.
This is smoking gun stuff, especially Cy Hirsch.
I mean, he's never lied.
He's always been right.
He's always had inside scoop.
Almost to the point, it's like he represents an element of the New World Order.
I mean, it's the New Yorker magazine.
And he's allowed to do this.
So, and he has these incredible sources going back to Vietnam.
He broke Operation Phoenix, and they were torturing people to death, and their kids in front of the parents, and using the former zoo in Saigon to torture people, and you know, all this.
He's just broken hundreds of things.
Pulitzer Prize winner.
Probably the greatest living investigative journalist out there.
Bob, let's cover this first.
A, were you aware of this?
And B, you know I don't make stuff up, so I've told you about it.
First of all, I knew about it and picked it up the same way you did.
And these kind of operations have been going on for years.
It's just they haven't been as aggressive and blatant as they have in the last eight years.
The means to an end sort of thing in order to achieve some financial or political objective.
And there are people in government who are very interested in enriching themselves as well as putting forth a program that that pursues their aims.
So I'm not surprised at all.
And, you know, there was a time when they backed off doing that during the 50s and the 60s.
And the Russians during the Cold War did too.
They had an agreement.
You know, we won't kill your people if you don't kill ours.
And this lasted quite a long while, but when we got into Vietnam and we did what we did, things started to evolve from that that were extremely negative.
Things like what you've just brought up, and we saw the Iran-Contra affair, the smuggling of massive amounts of illegal drugs into the United States by the participants, and today we get these kinds of one of twelve possible scenarios to get us involved in World War 4.
It is truly believable if you have looked at things the way that Alex and I have.
I mean, this is a huge issue to have the New Yorker deciding to not run with the story, not because it wasn't accurate, but because, well, they didn't carry out these staged terror attacks.
I mean, the fact that the Vice President was proposing this, this is huge.
I mean, how do we educate the public and show them that we have smoking gun evidence here, and then...
Even our own movement has gotten so trained to accept these crimes by these individuals that it's kind of like, oh, um, I mean, Neocons write editorials saying we need giant terror attacks in America.
9-11 was great for us in the Philadelphia Daily News.
We have Gary Hart, who wrote up the CFR plan for the Homeland Security System, who's definitely one of them, saying, oh yeah, we stage terror attacks in open letters.
I mean, these bastards are getting really arrogant here.
Well, I think that they're close to and pushing toward total government, at least in their minds and eyes.
And they see it as a culmination of hundreds of years of attempting to bring about a world government.
And they think they're getting very close.
On the other hand, Brzezinski says, you guys are missing the point here.
We're not getting close.
We've been stopped at the pass.
And there's serious, serious problems.
In what we're trying to do, and we're very, very concerned that this whole thing may fall apart on us.
So, you've got two groups of thinking, one sane and one not sane.
And, you know, how do you do something about it?
We're doing everything we can by being on the air and publishing.
You know, I had an email the other day, not pertaining to this sort of thing, but I call a gentleman up, because I call everybody up who asks me to, and he said it would be a great idea if we had a million or two million people march on Washington regarding the Federal Reserve.
Well, if we all feel strongly enough about this incident that Cheney and his gang of murderers and torturers and rapists uh...
are going to do these kind of programs or why don't we get a million people to walk a walk a walk a walk a walk have a walk march on washington and tell a lot of about this anymore bob why do you think so many people see themselves as quote conservatives just say a tortures good rates good murders good new come all
They don't understand that once you dehumanize the Iraqis or anybody else, that you've built a government and an elite that will do that right back at home to you.
There's no justification for those kinds of thoughts, those kinds of actions.
I know that sometimes you are forced to go to war, but Most of the wars that we've had have been unavoidable.
They're usually caused by either financial or political interests, such as the Second World War.
Everybody who's read knows it was a setup on both Japan as well as in Europe.
And so people have got to think about not allowing this to happen.
And it has nothing to do with conservatives who Believe in that sort of thing.
It has something to do with everybody who believes in that sort of thing.
And, you know, what's been very, very encouraging, and I talked this over with Tony Hilda not too long ago, is that we've had a movement of people from the right to the center and from the left to the center, so to speak.
And it's the most important thing that's happened in the last ten years in America.
Because now we're talking with and coordinating with people who have the same desires that we have and there's no political label on it.
And so if conservative Republicans, in quotes, think that those are good things, they should rethink it and maybe they should think about not being conservative Republicans anymore because what they're thinking of are allowing to happen is just morally wrong.
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But in this short segment, let's just not mince words.
And we like Lindsey Williams.
We think he's a great guy.
We were talking privately, I think, yesterday.
We both have misgivings on the same issues.
The story just has problems with it.
We believe what he's saying.
We believe he believes what he's saying.
But this issue of we're going to be paying $50 a gallon a barrel gas and going to be paying $2 a gallon in the next year, it just doesn't fit with a lot of the data and input that we have.
I think first you've got to look at the fact that ARCO has been part of BP for some time.
Most of those people are retired.
I don't know that they're in touch or not.
It's just a question.
The occurrence of major fields, such as in Indonesia, first of all, it would take at least two years for it to get online if it was earthbound, so to speak.
Indonesia is importing oil presently.
I know that surprises people, but that's true.
And they're a member of OPEC, and although they have recently, at least for the time being, bowed out, not knowing that they have another field, so to speak.
And I don't really think that the government need Indonesia, the important people in that country, could not know about some field that was waiting to be developed.
As far as the Russians are concerned, they're not going to do anything the New World Order tells them to.
They're going to do what they want to do, and it'll take seven years in the Arctic If they are drilling deeply in water to bring about production.
We'd have the opposite, and then after it totally imploded, if the entire economy ended, flatlined, then you might see oil drop because nobody could buy it.
And also, I see a very, very bottom line of Of $80 a barrel over the next two years, and in all probability, it's more likely it'll be $100 to $120 a barrel because every nation in the world is inflating their money supply, money and credit.
The average is plus 8 to 14% a year.
Inflation is raging.
It's raging.
It's just that people know it, but there's no verification unless you listen to this program and a few other like it or read my publication.
And So, it's very difficult for oil over the next year, let's say.
To drop to $50 a barrel when the cost of everything else is going up.
But we've been saying for six months, on record, because it happens every summer, that the price is going to peak at the end of July or mid-July, and then go back down through the fall and winter, and then start picking back up in the spring, back into summer.
And if you watch the graph, it goes up a little bit, down, back up a little bit, down, But on a multi-year graft, it's going straight up.
So, to say, oh, see, the old companies were right.
The price went down by $25 a barrel.
This is the trick they play, where it's $1.50, then it goes to $2, then it drops back down to $1.75.
Then it raises back up to $3, then it drops to $2.50, then to $4, then to $3.50, then to $4.50, then to $4.
I mean, this is them simply training us.
Everybody's saying, wow, I love $4 gas.
It's better than $4.50.
Man, we got it good.
No, gas prices are high.
We'll be right back with Bob Chapman and your phone calls.
Stay with us.
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Let's finish up with, well, really how improbable it is that oil prices could drop down to $50 a barrel, which would mean, I guess, $1.75, $2 at the pump.
This is not my opinion.
The Associated Press in 2001 reported in a big series, And then we went to the university and the groups that have been involved in the research and then to the group that had the lawsuit and got the documents, not just the AP article.
And we've written articles about this the last few years.
On Infowars.com and PrisonPlanet.com, where the oil companies in 95 and 96 met, the top 10, in the US and in London, and we have all the documents, all the minutes of their meetings, and they said, there's too much oil being discovered, we want to keep prices up, how do we do it?
And they said, well, no matter if wildcatters ring in fields, we can't really block natural gas, that's hard.
But, that's why that's been booming in the US.
And keeping the economy afloat in many areas, like Texas.
But they said what we can do is buy up these refineries.
And in the next five years, they bought up over 200 refineries and closed them.
Now Marathon and a few others have tried to go buy those old things, get through the regulatory red tape.
They're trying to retrofit them and fix them up.
These are small refineries.
So they could find an ocean of oil tomorrow.
How are they going to bring it in when we're four or five years, even if they started on A hundred new refineries in the U.S.
and we're bringing imported gas in as well.
Let's say hundreds overseas.
It's just infrastructure-wise, because I know a lot, not a lot, but quite a bit more than most people about the oil industry, because family and being here in Texas, that will Well, Bob, we're talking about five years to be able to really bring to market something that could, and that's a dead reckoning estimation, but five years?
Where if they did want to give us all the oil they're blocking up, even in Alaskan places, we're talking four or five years, or is that wrong?
Well, I'm getting people emailing me thinking, oh, aren't oil prices low now, as if a national average of $3.90, many areas of California $4.50, some areas even higher.
This is the Pavlovian way they train us.
Remember, folks, a few years ago when $2 was outrageous, and then $3, and then... I mean, this is so childlike that people now think that oil prices are low.
Very good point, and I think that's what the globalists use psychology.
They sold us torture, they sold us preemptive war, wars of aggression, corruption, surveillance, and the public has that syndrome, I forget the exact name, where you go ahead and start defending your abusers is basically what it is.
I mean, when you're at my age, you really don't care because, you know, You think you're fortunate you live this long, but anyway... I've studied enough history, Bob, as you have, to know that I've got a much better chance of my family and myself coming through it if I'm bold, if I fight back, and that being weak and living in denial invites enslavement.
And so I hope all these cattle-like people out there who love the system, I hope they realize they're inviting doom by rolling over on their back and presenting their belly to the wolf.
Well, we have been shown, particularly through the discount window and the auctions by the Fed, that if anything, the credit crisis is worse now than it was a year ago.
And I'm sure Wall Street will tell you that's incorrect, and I'll have all kinds of reasons to tell you that.
But the bottom line is, they're increasing money in credit by about 17%, and at the same time, the banks are still having a terrible problem staying solvent.
And there's some $500 billion a month that's being given to banks, which just keeps on being an auctioned and lent and rolled at 2.25 and 2.35%.
And it's keeping the system going.
But you can't do it indefinitely, and that's where we're at this week as far as the credit situation is concerned.
The commercial paper market, where businesses go and they put up collateral and they borrow money for short periods of time, 30, 60, 90 days, maybe 6 months, for production things or research or whatever they're doing.
And that money is getting more and more and more difficult to get, and it's been that way for about a year.
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So that's another negative towards... And that kills economies!
And for those that don't know, in this globalist economy, margins of profit are so small in so many industries and so many manufacturing sectors that they'll need to borrow $10, $20, $30, $40, $50 million to do their run of a product just so they can sell industry.
It's feeding on itself.
And there's no way to stop it.
the debt in that six-month period and then make their profit.
And then now they can't even get it, even though they are solvent companies that are based in the short term on a debt model.
There was another article in Bloomberg, also in AP today, about how record amounts last month, record for all time history, even in the previous months, of banks going to the discount cash window and quote, getting free money from the Fed that they have to quote, you know, pay interest back on.
But that's our money, that's more liquidity currency being put out, devaluing the currency.
So you say feeding on ourselves, it's like we're starving to death, On a boat out in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean, so we're chopping our toes off and then our feet off and barbecuing them, but we can't sustain ourselves that long eating ourselves.
Which your body really does start eating itself without you cutting your toes off and eating them, your body does that.
My God, I mean if this was a country that was 240 pounds, solid muscle, totally, you know, huge bull neck, the best economy in the world say 100 years ago, are we emaciated down to what, 95 pounds?
But during that process, it's going to be extraordinarily difficult to counter-punch.
I mean, you're getting weaker and weaker.
And it's not only us, it's the whole world.
I mean, just take a look at Europe this week.
I mean, they're ready to declare, we are in a serious recession.
And they are.
And we haven't seen anything yet.
I mean, America started in recession a year and a half ago.
And I'm starting to see figures I'm starting to see economists say, well, gee, it could have started in the last quarter of 2006.
Well, thank you very much.
Where have you been?
Another thing, too, is that I think, finally, the mainline economists, even though they're hired by the banks and the brokerage houses and the government, are finally saying, look, these figures coming out of Washington are totally bogus.
And we can't use them anymore.
Look at the monster it's created.
And so all of these things are starting to confluence, and as we go on and the exposure comes, then the next step is deeper recession, and that means we've got to print more money, and then there's more hyperinflation until some point where the borrowers won't borrow anymore.
When you see that, you know you are about to enter deflation.
And we go into foreign companies and even countries coming in who don't have the devalued currency.
They're going into recessions and depression, but they still have a strong currency.
They're coming in with all the dollars they've bought in the past, and they're buying up the infrastructure, the water districts, everything.
Here's the Wall Street Journal.
We're fighting the foreigners off in about half the time from grabbing roads that are worth $100 billion over 50 years, and they're getting them for a half billion, a billion for $75.
So literal pennies on the dollar, roads we've already paid for, The state transportation boards won't fix them.
They're spending the money on cameras and emergency centers and martial law, war wags, and the rest of it, literally, big armored vehicles.
And then we have this.
Bush calls for new highway tolls, more private funding of roads, and he just basically declared, the states are stopping this.
I'm going to use the federal funds to demand that the infrastructure be handed over to private interest.
And it's a fact, you know, you just read from your mind exactly what the Governor of New York State said.
And that is not the answer.
The answer is maybe what Schwarzenegger is doing, saying, look, we're laying off 200,000 or is it 20,000?
200,000 or is it 20,000?
And everybody, no, there's 20,000 that are going to have to be laid off and 200,000 that have to have their salaries cut to minimum wage.
And at the same time, the legislature in California is arguing about which way they're going to go on trying to solve this $15 billion, I'm in the hole dilemma.
Well, when this implodes, what are all the new 3 million cops from 500,000 a decade ago, what are they going to do when they can't pull people over and give them tickets anymore to raise money?
Because the people have no more money.
What are they going to do when all this is going bankrupt?
I think you're the greatest, and no one has more courage than you.
And God is on your side.
And I'd like to tell you what happened to my friend and me exactly one week ago today.
We got pulled over by the cops.
We have a sticker on the car, InfoWars.com, and two round ball stickers, and when they got done with us, they said, do you know why we did this?
And they pointed to the stickers.
They treated us like criminals, ordered us out of the car, and facing the police car.
Then they searched the car, they searched my purse, threw everything out of my purse, didn't put it back in, questioned us beyond belief, and It was horrible.
Well, I think that they probably get a lot of disinformation from government.
And they do what they're told because they have to or they'll lose their jobs.
And I think it puts them in a state of mind where anybody who challenges the system in which they've chosen to operate in is outside of what they are or evil or whatever.
And so these two ladies in the car were evil because they thought Ron Paul was a good choice.
Oh, he told you to put your hands behind your back is the Ron Paul sticker.
Now, now, what was the look on their face while they were dumping your stuff out on the ground and leaving it there and having this pleasure raping Americans?
Well, a lot of these guys have been running checkpoints and shaking families down and killing them in Iraq, and they're just totally mind-blown.
Don't worry, cops, they're going to take your pension funds, everything you've got, your loving government that you trust so much is going to hurt you real bad.
Ingrid, you want to write that story up and post it in the message board at PrisonPlanet.com.
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Take care.
Yeah, don't let this intimidate you, folks.
We gotta expose this more than ever.
Bob, it's that kind of story, and there's one in the news today, a person being arrested for sticking an InfoWars sticker inside an airplane.
That was not good, shouldn't have done it, but the point is they overreacted to that.
I mean, that really, again, I'd love to be able to talk to that cop when he's off duty and just say, man, don't you understand this is tyranny, Bob?
And hopefully, policemen, law enforcement people are listening to the program, and they talk to one another saying, you know, we shouldn't be doing that.
I just don't understand how they get away with all this evil.
I mean, we know they call them into the big police meeting rooms and tell them, look out for the Ron Paul people.
I've got video of FEMA teaching them that founding fathers are bad.
If you have a UN sticker, go ahead and arrest them.
Get us out of the UN.
It's just totally lawless criminal government.
Here we go into the final segment with Bob Chapman.
Everybody stay with us.
Wake up feeling great.
Yeah, all over the country, it's even in the newspapers, InfoWars stickers, Ron Paul stickers.
Cops pull you over, a lot of times they pull guns out, they freak out.
I got video on Road to Tyranny where they pull a woman over to Checkpoint, it's their squad car video, and they find a pocket Constitution, and the state police in Virginia start breathing heavy.
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Look what I found, paraphernalia, is she allowed to have this?
And then my other question would have been to your first guest, and that is, did you get any news, hearing that George Bush's Oil assets have been seized, have been frozen.
And that was given to us on June the 12th on CBC Radio 2.
Today is B.C.' 's 150th birthday, and I'd like to tell your guests that.
I have several points I'd like to touch on and I'll call back another day I guess, but I know time's short.
I'll try to be brief.
I hear a lot of complaining about the government and the problems that we're having right now as a nation and as a world, but I still hear a lot of clinging and looking to the government to fix these problems.
The thing is, they're not going to fix them for us, at least not in a way that we'd like.
We've got to wake the general public up that cops pulling you over for Ron Paul's sticker is tyranny.
We've got to wake the public up that they're building FEMA camps.
They're putting poison in your vaccines.
They're testing chemical and biologicals on you.
They're killing us.
They're killing cops and their families, too.
Don't roll your eyes out there, government people, who think you're part of the power structure.
You're unbelievably disgusting.
You know, we don't even hate you.
We're just disgusted by you and your pig-like behavior.
Bureaucrats, all of you.
It's disgusting.
And the ride's almost over.
We're going to hell in a handbasket, and I hope you're proud of what you've done and what you've been part of.
And that goes for the American people as well.
We all have sat on our butts and let this happen, and now it's time to fix it.
And don't worry, it will get fixed.
It's going to get worse and worse.
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