Alex Jones hosts a June 14, 2004 broadcast featuring Libertarian Michael Badnarik and Bilderberg insider Jim Tucker, alleging Saudi-Congress oil collusion and a global elite agenda. They discuss the Iraq War as a "dirty work" maneuver by U.S. elites opposed by European members, while Tucker claims the group shifted toward an oil tax at the wellhead to establish UN taxation principles. The segment details alleged fake news campaigns funded by $70 million, interlocking leadership between the Bilderberg Group and the Council on Foreign Relations, and accusations that major editors suppress secret meeting reports as "journalistic prostitutes," painting a picture of a coordinated New World Order. [Automatically generated summary]
All right, my friends, another Monday, a whole week spanning out before us.
The 14th day of June, 2004.
We'll be live for the next three hours.
In the second hour, we have joining us Michael Bagnerik.
He is the Libertarian presidential candidate, won out over to Aaron Russo and others.
That's in the second hour.
In the third hour, back from Italy, from the Bilderberg Group Conference, what is 26th year covering it, Jim Tucker from American Free Press will be giving us the inside scoop on the intelligence he got inside from his moles inside the Bilderberg Group.
So that's in the third hour.
And then tomorrow, we're going to be having a poll Joseph Watson on, who we normally have on, on Mondays.
A lot of other great big guests this week as well.
Jumping straight into the news, Treasuries fall as faster inflation may support Fed rate boost.
Now, if you don't care about economic numbers and the lending rate, you really should.
We'll be getting into that.
Also, gas prices dropped for the first time this year.
And months ago we found out, the Saudis even said that, oh, we've been asked to lower gas prices with the oil companies in Congress together, working together.
I don't mean in the U.S.
Congress, I mean together, you know, the Saudis and the oil companies working together in Congress.
And so Bush can get re-elected.
Well, really, it's bigger than that.
They squeeze us for a while, and they let off some of the pressure, but notice the gas prices aren't going back down to what they were two years ago.
No, they get it well above $2, then drop it down to $1.89, and you think, oh, this is just so wonderful.
And then you're trained, again, to accept higher prices.
It's just like the oil shortage.
That's admittedly a staged event back in the 70s.
Prices never went back down to what they were.
This is part of training you.
They jack up the price, then they lower it a little bit, and you consider yourself lucky.
But it never goes back to the previous level.
Also, they're going to put retina scanners in the airports.
They were talking about this, but people complained, oh, then it was just for foreigners, and oh, now it's for citizens.
Well, yeah.
I mean, they face scan and thumb scan people in almost all the states, so why wouldn't they do it to fly on airplanes?
This is Big Brother Control Grid going into place.
Also, out of the Times Union, Terror Inquiry snares art exhibit.
There was a well-known professor, a white guy, wasn't even an Arab.
He'd been in big trouble if he was an Arab.
Real discrimination there.
And he put on a display about genetically engineered crops.
You know, with some petri dishes and stuff for students that would come through.
I mean, this is pretty simple stuff.
It was an art display about genetically engineered crops.
Again, had some petri dishes and some beakers and things.
Well, the police came to his house because his wife, he's an older gentleman, had died of a heart attack.
They saw some Petri dishes and went ahead and arrested him.
Doesn't matter if there's video and photos of him at art displays about genetically engineered crops.
They're going ahead and got him under terrorism charges for this.
Pretty interesting.
Also, speaking of DNA, proposition to take DNA and arrest stirs privacy fears, mandatory sampling, on November ballot.
And this is out in California.
The problem is that they'll take that blood to frame you.
Remember a few months ago here in Austin, Texas?
They had troops at UT harassing people for their political views.
Plainclothes military secret police.
Finally hit Newsweek, but they say, you know, it might be needed.
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Man, where to start?
There's a bunch of secret military police news articles about how they're watching us and taking care of us, and how they're going to take our DNA, and how it's good, and how Big Brother wants to help us.
I mean, every day I see Big Brother being recast as a helper.
Kind of like he was in 1984.
Kind of the view of the Ministry of Truth.
So we'll be getting into that.
Some good news, I guess.
I mean, U.S.
High Court lets public schools use Under God in pledge.
So if they can remove that, they can remove everything out of our system of government.
Though the Under God wasn't added until the last century.
Did you know that?
In fact, we don't even really have a pledge of allegiance.
But interestingly enough, they did create it, but I wish that there would be more fervent defense of the Bill of Rights itself.
I mean, it's good that people are defending the pledge, but how about we defend the Bill of Rights itself?
This is out of Bloomberg News, public school teachers can continue to lead Recitations of the Pledge of Allegiance with the phrase, Under God, as the U.S.
Supreme Court threw out a challenge to the practice by a California atheist.
The justices, eight to zero, overturned a federal appeals decision that said a California school district violated the constitutional separation of church and state by requiring teachers to lead the pledge.
Five of the eight justices in California, atheist Michael Newdow, lack the legal right to do so, the court said.
Three others said the practice is constitutional.
Now, and if you want to read the case, it was the case is Elk Grove Unified School District versus Newdow, 02-1624.
If you want to go read it, we have a link to it on the website.
But look, The same Supreme Court has held up Lord Bush and Hillary Clinton's campaign finance reform where I can't have, say, Larry Pratt of Gun Owners of America on my radio show 60 days before an election.
Of course, we're not going to follow that.
We'll do whatever we want.
It's called the First Amendment.
But people thought the Supreme Court would rule against us.
Oh, there's no way they'll, you know, allow this censorship.
You know, liberal groups can't have their non-profit environmental group on 60 days before an election.
But the corporations can give double the money!
That's your reform!
Silence the people, silence money individuals can give, silence the different organizations that are out there, But double the amount of money corporations can give.
You know, the Supreme Court just loves that.
The Supreme Court's been ruling against the Second Amendment in different cases.
Other federal courts have been doing it.
The Supreme Court has been ruling against our borders and saying, oh, we can have open borders and, you know, trucks pouring across violating even our own laws.
State laws on traffic and maintenance of the vehicles.
The Supreme Court, across the board, says, hey, we don't have to pay you if we have a taking of your land, if it's taken as public domain.
The Constitution says the government can do that, but they have to pay you market value.
No, no, no.
I mean, there's all these Supreme Court rulings that are just horrible.
But then they'll do something like, oh, you can leave under God and the Pledge.
Because to them, it means nothing.
To them, it's just a way to look conservative.
You notice they even have these so-called liberals on the Supreme Court, you know, unanimously going along with this.
Meanwhile, they're going to go along with Bush's faith-based initiative, billions of dollars, tens of billions of dollars a year to federalize churches, to turn them into government bodies.
And of course the churches aren't complaining.
They love that idea.
Talk about separation of church and state.
The First Amendment says Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof.
That means the government isn't involved in the churches.
It doesn't mean that the government regulates and runs the churches and tells you what tax forms to fill out and tells you what you can preach from the pulpit.
But that's exactly what they're doing.
So the government's saying, oh, that means we're to run the churches.
That's separation of church and state.
We're to keep their ideas out of government.
No, it means government stays out of the regulation of religion, and religion does whatever it wants to.
I mean, and that is so strong in the First Amendment, that's why the Hopi Indians are allowed to take, you know, peyote.
Because it's part of their religion.
The government's drug laws don't even apply to Native Americans.
And frankly, they shouldn't.
Because that's the First Amendment.
But you see, the Indians, the Native Americans, can go out and take their hallucinogens all day.
The voodoo people can cut goats' heads off in their backyard.
They can do all that stuff.
But you, say, working at AT&T or Dell Computer or any of these places, can't have a cool cross at your desk.
But right next to you can be the Muslim moon and star or a Wiccan cross.
Folks, it's selective enforcement persecution against Christians.
And the so-called Christian leaders are too busy out-promoting the Patriot Act and the police state and world government to be involved defending the Christian population in America.
It makes you very, very angry.
So, just window dressing.
The U.S.
High Court lets public schools use under God and pledge.
Why do we even have public schools?
There shouldn't even be a debate about this.
Public schools, public brainwashing centers.
Oh my goodness.
You see, when everything's government, they have total government control.
But before I continue with all of this, let me give you the toll-free number.
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the point i was trying to make is this the supreme court along with congress and the president
republicans democrats alike are dismantling america
dismantling the bill of rights and constitution and then having these giant debates
over under god in the pledge of allegiance
meanwhile republican appointed judges and attorney generals elected
i'd get rewards for going after judge roy more with the ten commandment
situation in alabama and then bush nomination for you know how even higher
courts but because they persecuted more
There's the real action!
There's the real violation!
But you don't hear a discussion of that.
Oh, it's a praise Bush, the good Christian conservative.
Oh look, Bush is getting our oil prices lowered.
Yeah, his owners are the ones that jacked him up to begin with.
I mean, it's just pathetic.
Now, a few months ago, it was in the Wall Street Journal.
It was first in the local student paper.
In fact, I got a call on my TV show a week before it was even in the student paper, the Daily Texan.
I got a call on TV.
I didn't know if it was true or not.
They said, yeah, I was at UT at a peace meeting.
And there were these guys with shaved heads in suits, getting in people's faces, shoving them around, and they said they were there from the Army and we'd better watch it or we'd be arrested under the Patriot Act.
And I said, OK, send me some information.
Call local newspapers.
I don't know if this is true.
Sounds like stuff we've seen before.
Then a few days later, I remember it was four or five, six days later, I get emailed the daily text in the student newspaper and it says, well the troops came in and threatened the Dean and demanded video of the conference and said they'd been there at the meeting and that was basically what we got in the mainstream news and the Wall Street Journal picked up on it and elaborated on it and it turned out to be true!
Intelligence!
The Pentagon's spying on America!
Now it's in Newsweek, folks!
Now, by the way, for at least I don't know.
15, 16, none work.
For 17 years, I've got news articles and interviews and documents that this has already been going on.
But then it was just thousands of troops in plain clothes.
Now, ladies and gentlemen, there are at least 100,000 Lane closed.
Sheep dip is what they call it.
Where they take a military operator who's taken the questionnaires and says they'll fire on Americans and done all this.
They will take them and put them outside the military but still under the military branch.
Kind of like special forces and delta force.
Where they're above the law and give them basically 007 powers.
And you will see 25 year old punks in suits driving Cadillacs around.
And they're ballooning the numbers of these people.
June 21st issue.
This is the latest news week.
Last February, two army counterintelligence agents showed up at the University of Texas Law School.
Folks, I've been at rallies before and had these guys bump into me and threaten me and laugh at me and stick a potato in my tailpipe.
I don't know if it's these guys, but the same group.
It continues, last February, two army counterintelligence agents showed up at the University of Texas Law School and demanded to see the roster.
They threatened the dean, people, from a conference of Islamic law held a few days earlier.
Their reason?
They were trying to track down students who the agents claimed had been asking suspicious questions.
I felt like I was in law and order.
By the way, that was a separate event where they went to the peace rally.
The one getting the attention was the law school where they had military there talking and they didn't like the questions these guys asked.
So, multiple issues here.
We'll come back, get into the new freedom of the commissars, the political police.
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They're going to be talking to you and your family.
They're going to be organizing the neighborhood watch teams, the new Homeland Draft.
They're going to be our bosses.
They're going to be the police bosses.
Last February, two Army counterintelligence agents showed up at the University of Texas Law School and demanded to see their roster from a conference on Islamic law held a few days earlier, where the military spoke and they were confronted.
Their reason?
They wanted to track down students who the agents claimed had been asking suspicious questions.
I felt like I was in law and order, said one student, after being grilled by one of the agents.
Oh, the school offered him up to them.
The incident provoked a brief campus uproar and the Army later admitted the agents had exceeded their authority.
But if the Pentagon has its way, now put your ears on folks, if the Pentagon has its way, the Army may not have to make such amends in the future.
Without any public hearing or debate, Newsweek has learned.
Oh, you learned?
What's in the new Patriot Act?
What I call 2.5, because they passed Part 2 last year.
This is 2.5.
What they didn't pass in war.
Newsweek has learned defense officials recently slipped a provision into a bill before Congress that could vastly expand the Pentagon's ability to gather intelligence.
Oh, they've been gathering.
Inside the United States, including recruiting citizens as informants.
Oh!
The Pentagon is going to have citizen informants.
They already do.
This is now the coming out of the closet, you could say.
Oh my goodness.
And man, I tell you, there's nothing like when you're out bullhorning the governor's mansion on a city sidewalk to have one of these guys bump into you and go, excuse me, and bug their eyes out at you.
There's nothing like having them working with the police trying to provocateur rallies to try to cause a fight so the black scheme-ass police across the street can attack the gathering.
It is not fun.
And I've been dealing with these people for eight, nine years, and I'm sick of them!
They're destroying this country!
Well, you don't support the troops?
You don't support them in plain clothes, sneaking around, harassing people?
Okay, now, I'm telling you, conservatively, 100,000 of these goons, and as I told you, they're gonna have, they're gonna be over all the neighborhood watches, they already are in some areas.
And all crime is terrorism.
They're not going to find a real terrorist to fight, so it's going to be their bosses carrying out the terror.
So it's going to be harassing you and your family.
It's not enough to have the helicopters based out at Bergstrom here in Austin and in your town surveilling us every evening.
That's admitted.
I've had JAG officers on this show.
I've got family out there at the airport.
No, it's not just that.
No, it's going to be proactively in your life about your political views and what you're doing and what you're saying and I mean, this doesn't intimidate me.
And they're announcing all of it now, so when their bosses carry out more terror attacks, they can say, see, it's needed, and you just follow the orders of these young men with their machine guns.
They're here to help you, driving around in their vans and their Crown Vicks and their Mercedes and they drive a lot of fancy vehicles around, driving around in their Suburbans, you know, playing, playing G.I.
Joe's Spy 007, harassing people that are fighting against the electronic voting machines, harassing people that are against these wars, harassing land rights activists, harassing Second Amendment rallies.
That's their new job!
Yes, that's what the military's for!
And I dug back out the Associated Press article and the London Guardian article about the $70 million in fake newscasts we're now enjoying here in the country.
$70 million buy!
Just one of the buys from the government.
We got General Eberhardt popping off a few months ago in the LA Times about how troops on the streets and watching you were good, and Tommy Frank spouting off about setting aside the constitutional government for military government.
I mean, they're talking about it!
Openly!
Let me just give you a cue.
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I mean, this is so East German, so Soviet, so Nazi, so Communist China, so Fidel's Cuba, so Nicaragua, it doesn't even... it is amazing.
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Just get in the time machine and go back to 1965 East Germany.
I mean, this is so un-American, so blatant, and now they want to, they already have turned them loose on us, but they now want to pass the law so they don't get embarrassed and in trouble when they do this.
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But, I mean, I really want you to comment on this, callers.
You can talk about whatever else you want, but will you first just comment on this?
Newsweek!
Now, at first it was, again, on my TV show here in Austin, then the local student newspaper, then in the Wall Street Journal, now in Newsweek.
Now, let me just read this one more time.
Intelligence!
The Pentagon!
Spying in America!
Last February, two Army counterintelligence agents, and it's a lot more than that, showed up at the University of Texas Law School and demanded to see the roster from a conference ...held the law school a few days earlier.
Their reason?
They were trying to track down students who the agents claimed had been asking suspicious questions.
I felt like I was in law and order, said one student, after being grilled by one of the agents.
The incident provoked a brief campus uproar, and the Army later admitted that agents had exceeded their authority, but in the Pentagon had its way, the Army may not have had to make such amends in the future.
Without any public hearing or debate, Newsweek has learned defense officials recently slipped a provision into a bill before Congress that would vastly expand the Pentagon's ability to gather intelligence inside the United States, including recruiting citizens as informants.
And these guys are actually outside the purview of the Defense Department.
They're under CIA control.
They've been around for decades, but now it's ballooning, exploding, has nothing to do with terrorism.
And again, I have been to, I went to two of the New World Order conferences, they were actually called New World Order conferences, at the LBJ Presidential Library last year.
One of my friends went to all five, Kevin Smith.
And there'd be 20 people with video cameras.
They'd walk over to me, threaten me, turn it off, we'll have you arrested.
I'd say, no, go ahead.
They'd leave me alone.
But the last three times, I didn't go.
They'd have CIA directors there, you name it.
And they would bump into Kevin, push him, shove him.
I had some of that happen to me.
You know, young guys with short haircuts and suits.
You know, we're here with the general.
We're here with the general, business general.
What is it?
MAGUS.
It's over UT.
Looks like Darth Vader or something.
This guy just radiates evil.
And so that's the new America.
We've already had some fun with them.
You know, they're just there to make sure the higher learning institutions, you know, there's no rule against videotaping unless you're against this.
And then the troops are just going to tell you to shut it off and they'll arrest you.
Troops!
It's all part of having troops.
And so this is the new America.
I mean, you ought to try being in a small town in northern Florida.
In Brooksville and having police and military in plainclothes threatening to arrest you, you know, for walking down the street.
Because you're, you know, exposing their Delta Force takeover drills.
And by the way, that's all in the takeover.
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Paul, we all get the Daily Texan article from a few months ago, the Wall Street Journal from a few months ago, I think we have them saved, and this Newsweek article.
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Also, post a little section if you can.
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I want to post a section Take the New York Times, the Associated Press, and that London Guardian article about the $70 million in fake newscasts that are airing around the country.
People still can't believe that, even though we've posted it and it's been in the news.
I want to just, you know, these are key issues.
We've posted the cancer viruses and the mercury in the vaccine section.
That was done for you last week.
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We're trying to put them all in subsections for you as resources.
Let's go ahead and go to the calls.
Emmett in Pennsylvania.
Emmett, go ahead.
Good to talk to you, Emmett.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
What's next in our institutions of higher learning?
Lecture shock to make sure that the students believe in the government?
I've been laying this out for years in my films, but now it's just mainstream.
Well, the troops are going to be organizing your neighborhood watches, and watching you, and fighting terror and crime, and manning the cameras in your cities, and just playing close troops, driving around in black vans, grabbing people.
What's wrong with that?
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Well, the city of Baltimore, Maryland, they're wired with TV.
Yeah, I wish I could come on the show to talk about 9-11, because they specifically, you know, and George did let me talk about it some when I was on by myself.
When I was on the roundtable, it was all about secret societies.
By the way, they're going to re-air that roundtable July 1st, I'm told.
And I haven't been able to see it online yet, because I've got my line tied up, obviously.
What I heard was astoundingly alarming.
Evidently, this ruling was a pretext to rule against parental rights.
Because the quote that I heard of Gary Brownfield reading the article said that the Supreme Court ruled that this particular atheist Did not have the authority to speak for his own child on whose behalf he was
While the government takes over the religions in the country, takes over the Christian Church, abolishes the Bill of Rights, and I do have the article here in front of me, it is true, that's why the liberals, Ruth Bader Ginsburg, voted for it.
I mean, wake up folks!
8-0!
Do you really think that?
I mean, you know, what's wrong with you out there?
Oh, we can have under God, but yes, you're right.
Then there's the twist of, now there's no parental rights, Great point.
I'm glad Brownfield made that.
I didn't hear him make it.
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No, he didn't make it.
He glossed over it.
But he read this in the quote.
Now, interestingly, you know that this is a major departure from the entire common law traditions of this country and before.
And frankly, I'm against pledges and oaths because the Bible says you're not supposed to do it.
but at the same time it's such a balkanized issues the so-called liberals act like they're against something when it was actually uh... it was a big socialist national magazine that brought forward the pledge and got this added They bring it forward, and then under that pretext, we don't particularly have a problem with under God and all that.
I mean, I believe we're under God and all that.
We should be.
Then they can make us do other pledges, you understand?
And then kind of this East German lining up and chanting.
So it's a sophisticated issue, and overall I agree with you, and of course they did something bad in this, but people won't see that, and so why even talk about it?
unidentified
Well, you know, in the freedom traditions of our country, the husband speaks for his wife and the parents speak for their children.
So they're taking the opportunity to appear to uphold God and eradicate, you know, 200, 300 years of common law tradition.
What I was wanting to call about, I have actually got a whole lot of things on my mind, but I'll try to keep it brief.
First of all, I am so relieved that the week of deifying Ronald Reagan on the news is over with.
I tell you what, I thought I was watching a sequel to Weekend at Bernie's or something.
They wouldn't put the guy on the ground, would they?
They kept sitting there deifying him like he was a Soviet leader.
You know how the Soviet Union When they were still in power, and they're in power now over here in the United States, they just moved from Russia to here, but I'll tell you what, they would sit there and they would be like 30 days parading the guy around over there, like Brezhnev and all them, and last week reminded me just that, that he was being deified, and our glorious leaders are now being put up on these super high pedestals that we have to start worshipping.
The Posse Comitatus Act seems to be getting run through the shredder more and more every day.
And I emailed you an article from my local paper, The New London Day, and it is a news article about what's going on in my own hometown of East Lyme.
Town National Guard Ponder Partnership.
The only plant currently under consideration calls for East Lyme to collaborate with the Connecticut National Guard and move its Police Department Fire Marshal's Office Emergency Management Department, Dispatch Center, into a 37,000 square foot building at Camp Roland in Nianic.
And they go on and talk about the cost.
They talk about how they're going to set up cameras in town to monitor and surveil.
Okay, also go to prisonplanet.com and it says contact Webmaster.
Email Paul as well to make sure that gets posted.
Now look, I've seen this coast-to-coast.
Here in Austin, the old Berkshire Air Force Base was turned into an international airport.
And about a third of the base, a little under a third, is still a military base.
And they've merged the APD and a bunch of other offices in with the military, with the regular Army, National Guard, and the APD, as well as the Sheriff's Department.
And nationwide, they've run the cameras out of the command base.
And yes, military bases over every city.
And this is total martial law being set up right in front of us.
Please continue.
unidentified
Thanks Alex.
They talk about the locals wanting to set up a Homeland Security liaison.
By the way, they've been reporting for two years they're putting in CIA offices in every major city now they're
moving into the medium-sized towns and and and
folks folks I just read Newsweek saying this and So in that partnership, there's the ability to be able to respond quickly to more global issues besides just the local issues.
Hey, here's what you better do.
You better form a local group against it, hand out hundreds of flyers, thousands of flyers, explaining what it is.
You better have public showings of my police state videos, and you better do it now.
unidentified
Yeah, well, I'm planning on it.
I'm also working on a letter to the editor of the paper.
Uh, exposing this and talking about this as well and explaining why this is not a good idea.
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Michael Bagnerik, the Libertarian Presidential Candidate, a good friend of mine from out here in Austin, Texas, is joining us.
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In the first hour, I got into this Newsweek article admitting that secret military police are going to run our neighborhood watch programs, are going to control our lives, How they're harassing people at rallies, going after people.
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Well, that's basically most of what Tex was saying.
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Well, he was on the CIA payroll, but he was recruited by Mossad, which... I wanted to ask you the question, does this mean that our intelligence agencies are intertwined?
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I tell you, so many people, friends of mine, are out there just having huge effects all over the globe and this is really exciting and it's been great to see you on C-SPAN and see you getting the word out about the New World Order.
I mean, thanks for those kind of words, but I mean, Michael, you've done such amazing work.
A documentary you made with Chris Athanas a few years ago about the Constitution, I consider to be preeminent on that subject.
I mean, you have truly studied this thing up one side and down the other and put it into function in your daily life.
But before we go any further, just in a few minutes, What was the process like as you were chosen by the delegates to be the Libertarian presidential candidate, beating out some formidable competition?
Well, the result, there were actually three votes taken.
It was a very close race.
Aaron Russo, Gary Nolan, and I all came with 33% of the vote.
All three candidates got Uh, roughly the same number of votes within, like, twelve votes of each other.
And so, the drama, the suspense, waiting for additional votes, and at the end, when the smoke cleared, I had come ahead and beat Aaron Derouso in the third vote.
Well, Mike, I have no doubt that if they actually let you on the stage with the two cousins, the two Skull and Bones members, that you'd wipe the floor with them.
If you were given proper media attention, I have no doubt that you wouldn't be our next president.
Four of the CIA voting machines didn't get in the way.
But, bottom line, you'll be able to educate tens of millions of people in the process, and grow the Libertarian Party, and get more of what I would call Constitutional Libertarians, that's kind of the more conservative Libertarians, I would put you in that strata.
I'd like to keep you with us for a while so we can take calls and get more into your platform.
But first off, you're here in Austin.
A couple months ago, secret military police out harassing people, threatening them at the law school just because they asked a general a serious question about the treatment of detainees at Abu Ghraib.
Even before that was breaking in the news, folks, they brought up the mistreatment and they got pretty shook up by that.
I've been at meetings at the LBJ Center where we had the military in plain clothes bumping into us, harassing us, telling us we can't videotape while everybody else can.
Newsweek reports that they're going to set up military garrisons in the cities, have them running neighborhood watch.
The total violation of the Tenth Amendment and the Posse Comitatus Act.
What we need to do is we need to scale back federal power.
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We, the people, ordain and establish the Constitution.
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Clearly they are acting.
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And so, as you said earlier, my job is to spread the libertarian message, teach people about the Constitution, so that we, the people, can take back our cherished Republic.
Well, the Patriot Act is the most egregious named piece of legislation.
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Well, we, the people, need to become more familiar with the Constitution.
The purpose of the Constitution, and the only purpose, is to protect your rights and your property.
Any time that the government is doing anything to take your property, for example, coming into town and using eminent domain to take your property, they will condemn a perfectly good building and then sell it to some corporation so they can make another billion dollars.
And the sad thing is that the people that we have elected to protect our rights are precisely the people who are taking advantage of those rights.
You know, abusing a child is certainly considered reprehensible, but when it's a parent or a babysitter, someone who has taken the responsibility or has the responsibility to protect those children, when the person responsible for doing the protection is the same person violating The child.
We just consider that more reprehensible than normal.
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And we, again, we the people have created Congress.
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Well, I am also responsible for saving for my own retirement.
When we gave that responsibility, or where our parents and grandparents gave that responsibility to the government, you know, the social security system, nobody feels secure.
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I want to talk about your platform and then get your take on some of the current issues that are developing and taking place, but We've seen the size of government explode under Bush, explode under Democrats.
I mean, it's got to be more obvious than ever that we don't even really have a two-party system.
Well, it's clear to me, and, well, we do have a two-party system.
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Coming from behind, because of his eloquence, his intelligence, believe me, I've got a chance to watch him on local television about 50 times, and he's very impressive, knows his stuff.
Because when you know your stuff, you know when somebody else knows what they're talking about, and sometimes his knowledge of certain subjects even plumbs the depths past mine.
We can all learn from each other, and I think you'd make a great president, but bottom line, he's going to have a great chance to educate a lot of people.
Now, we'll go to your calls, I promise, in the next segment, so be patient and be ready and be at your phones.
But, Mr. Bagnaric, continuing, let's talk about the war in Iraq, the draft, the Second Amendment, and electronic voting machines.
Well, you know, one of the things that the Constitution allows us to do is to do national defense.
It does not give us the authority to do international offense.
And I think that it's not fair to the American taxpayer for them to be spending their hard-earned money to have our military protecting Germany, Japan, Korea... Well, they've already spent $400 billion off military budget, which is $400 billion, incidentally, a year by itself, so $800 billion in the last year and a half.
But it's like, let's say if you were my employee or I was your employee, and then you said, Yes, it is definitely a use of power that is not authorized by the Constitution.
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In a republic, the rights of the minority, Individual rights and private property are sacred, and a unanimous vote cannot take property away from someone.
If 51% of the white people say, let's make black slaves again, in a democracy, ladies and gentlemen, that happens.
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Rosie O'Donnell and her million moms went to Washington in March with the idea that if they just got enough votes, that they could take away my Second Amendment rights.
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burke group of big jim tucker in the next hour as well uh... going back to our guest uh... michael
uh... before we were going to your calls as a second but the draft situation
let's talk about that briefly because draft is indentured servitude it is slavery
and now this new drafted just for the grabs of eighteen to twenty one-year-old
they're talking eighteen to forty nine some of the bills eighteen to twenty six
professionals You'll have to serve here domestically as part of these tattletale squads.
Our government literally is setting up kind of like a puppet government, like they're doing in Iraq, with little local military bases merging with the police departments.
Well, the Libertarian Party and I are adamantly opposed to the draft.
I do believe that it is slavery.
If we have a genuine threat to the United States, I believe that many, many people will voluntarily sign up for the military to help protect our liberty.
Anytime the government has to force you, To go and fight.
That's a real clear indication that the general population does not support that military.
The average male knows all about how to guzzle beer and watch the football game.
But does it spend any time knowing what his rights are, or what his children's rights are?
And same thing for women.
If we started spending a little more time being informed, we'd find out, number one, that our rights have been violated, we're being enslaved, and number two, that it's exciting to be informed, it's exciting to be involved.
Is it not, Mike Lumme?
You started your fight a few years ago, and now you're a presidential candidate for the third largest party in the country.
And it's very exciting, it's exhilarating, and I am having so much positive effect.
People are coming up to me, asking me questions, they like our platform.
Everyone loves Liberty, and when they find out that there is a political party that is actually trying to protect your rights, trying to help you retain your liberty, they also get very enthusiastic.
So, I'm seeing a great deal of support.
People can contribute to my campaign at Amazon.com.
Amazon.com has a place where you can vote for any of the presidential candidates.
I am currently running third, and I am only a few thousand dollars behind George Bush.
So it would gather a whole lot of publicity if your listeners would go to Amazon.com to contribute, put me ahead of George Bush, And then I think ABC and CBS would start to contact me because of the impact.
I am currently in third place, but I was in third place when I arrived at our national convention.
And, you know, I was not, admittedly, Everyone's first choice.
But I was everyone's favorite second choice.
And when the voting started going back and forth, and people realized that Gary Nolan was no longer an option, they selected me as their second choice, and I was able to inch out Aaron Russo.
And the wonderful thing is that all of the Libertarian Party has now come together behind my campaign.
We have a lot of energy, a lot of synergy, a lot of cohesiveness, That we did not have after some of our other conventions.
We started the Department of Health Education and Welfare back in 1953, and last year we just experienced 50 years of government control of our schools.
In the 50s, American students were number one in math and science.
And today, we spend ten times as much per student, and our students are functionally illiterate.
We're behind every industrialized country, and behind a bunch of third-world countries, and if you follow the graph of federal spending, the test scores drop along the line of the graph, and that's because, by design, and I've had former heads of the Department of Education on this show, they have handbooks on how to dumb people down.
There's no authority for the federal government to do that.
And we should eliminate that department simply because they're inefficient.
The only way to get real education is to put the curriculum back in the hands of the parents and teachers, the people who know the children, who care for the children.
A parent has a responsibility to teach their children values and teach them to grow up to be good citizens.
If parents give that responsibility to government, It's little wonder that our children grow up not having the values that we want them to have.
Yeah, I'm just going to go ahead and spread the word about this.
I'm really pumped up and I've got a former congressman who does a radio talk show and I'm going to mention about this and see if he can get you on as a guest.
The court systems that we have in the United States are fairly corrupt.
They are the ones that are supposed to be protecting our rights, and they're not.
We need to have fully informed juries.
John Jay was one of the writers of the Federalist Papers, he was the first Supreme Court Justice, and his instructions to the jury were that they were supposed to decide the facts of the case and also to determine the law, to determine whether a particular law was applicable in that situation.
Today, judges routinely instruct the juries determine the facts but they insist that as the judge they
will determine the law and the jurors are required to uh... use
They were found not guilty, but the judge said, well, I find you guilty of using weapons in the commission of a crime, but they were found not guilty of all the crimes.
The immigration, basically on free trade, we believe that people should be free to come and go.
The United States is the greatest country in the world because during the late 1850s and early 1900s, millions of people came from Europe.
Uh... the Jews, the Polish, the Italians, I mean everybody came here, they set up their little businesses, and they all came with the clothes on their back to get a small... Okay, right there, right there, let me stop, because I've had a chance to hear you talk about this for an hour, and it made sense, but...
You have to go through the rest of the policies or people won't understand.
If we had a true free market, if Mexico had a true free market, if China had a true free market, if the government wasn't paying massive welfare and putting ads in foreign newspapers to get the people to come here, the market would keep it from happening by the tens of millions that then drives down our wages.
So because we don't have a free market, we cannot allow open borders, plus there's the security issue.
And our free trade agreements, NAFTA and GATT, are called free trade, but what they do is they create a hostile economic environment which forces companies to move their manufacturing and jobs elsewhere.
And the fact is that during the immigration of the 1800s and 1900s.
We have policies at Ellis Island, which made sure that people who were coming to this country were not known criminals, so they did not have diseases.
And there were a certain percentage of people at Ellis Island who were turned back and sent back to Europe.
But for the most part, anybody who wanted to come here to work hard, to increase their own standard of living, and to help make the United States a great country, which is exactly what happened.
If I spend that $100 on ice cream for orphans, that does not suddenly, miraculously... Okay, so what would you do at the point, though, of, while it's set up like this, not a free market, you know, we have to control the border, deport the people who are here illegally by the tens of millions, and then fix the internal mechanisms before going back to, I mean, trying to get back to a free market.
I'm just basically trying to spread the message I would have a lot of people on my cabinet who are smarter than I am about the economy and smarter than I am about the military.
I would surround myself with people who have studied this.
I've studied the Constitution.
I know that my powers as President would be limited.
We're supposed to have a system of checks and balances, and right now, Congress passes unconstitutional laws, the President rubber-stamps them, and the Supreme Court, you know, willfully misinterprets them.
Hey, Alex, how about if he hires you for that consultant, please?
We need it bad.
Mr. Bednarik, I just wanted to say real quick, remember when the Trade Promotion Authority was passed, they gave Bill Clinton that fast-track trade authority, Uh, the Constitution, Article 1, Section 8 says that the Congress is to regulate trade.
So, you know, when we say all these things, let's keep in mind we already gave everything away, and I want to ask you... That's what he just said.
I don't know if this is something that's just a small detail that isn't being resolved, but somehow the people that have the petition don't have your name as the first person.
If you could answer, if you know anything about this, tell me what to do.
The second question is, this whole thing now, It seems to me that every time that we have somebody like, you seem to be not so much, I believe, into this.
I've listened to Alex.
No sales tax.
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Now we have this movement, HR 25.
It's being pushed by the Christian Coalition.
They got their words out.
They got their flyers out.
And I just read it, and it made me kind of sick, because basically our little mouthpiece up here in the Pittsburgh area, who pushes everything that's Republican, this is after they threw our country away.
Ballot access, getting Libertarians on the ballot everywhere where they've been thrown off, and then secondarily, this new sales tax meant to run in tandem with the income tax.
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Yeah, hi Michael and Alex.
Uh, Michael, are you a born-again Christian and what is your personal position on abortion and what is your party's position?
Okay, um, I will refuse to answer religious questions because Article 6 of the Constitution says that no religious test will be taken.
What you need to know is that I will defend your right to religion.
So if I were to, for example, say that I was Buddhist, which I'm not, but all the Buddhists would be in support of me and, you know, other religions would not.
So I refuse to answer that question.
I will definitely defend your religion.
The Libertarian Party believes that a woman owns her body, and that she has a right to choose.
I understand that this is a controversial issue, and it will remain so until we can determine... Well, I went to a Libertarian meeting a few months ago, and they believe a woman has a right, but that the baby is separate from her, and it has a right.
And so there's a large debate raging in the Libertarian Party concerning that.
Well, I certainly believe it's a human being and then it moves into the whole eugenics field from there and we need to stop the practice.
Let's go ahead and make another quick call here.
Let's talk to, who's up next?
Brooke in Rhode Island.
Brooke, you're on the air.
Go ahead.
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Yes, thanks Alex and thanks Michael for taking my call.
I have a question for you and I'd like to know what is your position on Masonic Affairs Basically, the private secret intelligence agencies are mafias.
Well, I believe that we the people own this government.
They work for us.
Anything that is secret is suspect.
I mean, you can have your privacy at home for your personal life, but when you take an oath To protect and defend the Constitution, to protect other people's rights, to have any other oath that would supersede that would definitely be a conflict of interest.
I'll definitely have to have Michael Bagnarik, Libertarian Presidential Candidate, back on here in the near future so we can take more of your phone calls and have more of a debate and see where he stands on the issues.
But just briefly, Michael, I appreciate you holding through.
Just give out your website and phone number one more time for those that missed it.
And until 1975, when I was first being interviewed at Liberty Lobby for the purpose of getting pregnant and creating spotlight, I'd never heard of Bilderberg.
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At first, I didn't believe it.
Right-wing conspiracy theory or something, but it's so well documented that I became a believer immediately and outraged at the fact that I could hold high positions with daily newspapers for 20 years and not know that the Bilderberg existed.
Now again, if we have 100 Hollywood stars meeting in secret, it would be besieged by helicopters and news media, but you've got 140 or 120, depending on what year, and about another 100 minions meeting in secret, and we're not supposed to talk about it.
It is something the establishment press simply cannot answer.
Many times in the National Press Club in Washington, just mingling with other paperboys, I would put exactly the same question.
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I mean, major breaking story after breaking story.
So people get an idea of what we're talking about.
What are some of the major stories that you've broken, in some cases years before, because of your moles, that is employees, at these resorts that you get to tell you about and to get you materials from inside Bilderberg?
Bilderberg pressured President Bush, the elder, to break his Read My Lips, No New Taxes pledge, and within the year he did, reversed himself completely.
It may have cost him the election in 1992 to Bill Clinton by breaking that pledge.
This is a story on the downfall of Lady Thatcher as Prime Minister Britain.
She should have attended one Dillenberg meeting, had nothing to say and left.
But they were angry at her for resisting the euro and resisting surrendering sovereignty to the European Union.
And so they said she must go and she was replaced by a trapeze artist from her own party, by her own party.
And later I had the privilege of talking briefly for a few minutes with Lady Thatcher at a reception in Washington, and I asked her reaction to what Bilderberg had done, and this is almost a direct quote.
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She said that she considered being denounced by Bilderberg, quote, a tribute quote.
The call, she said, no national leader should surrender one bit of sovereignty to an international body.
And, of course, that stood in the way of the great super-state, the European Union, being developed into the United States of Europe.
And they're taking some licks this year because of the results of the parliamentary voting in Europe among the European Union nations, including the ten new ones, that ended Sunday.
And the people running for European Parliament who opposed the European Parliament's existence, many of them gained seats.
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They had his wife listed, but not Bill Gates, but Bill Gates is there.
We've got a photograph.
He's been positively identified by a group of reporters, me and several from Italy, which incidentally, they got the most attention they've ever had from the Italian press.
Leading page one at a time when President Reagan's dying, President Bush is in Rome to talk to the Pope and to Bersaglione, who Bersaglione attended, and gearing up for the D-Day commemorations.
Yet, on the major newspaper, he was the lead story.
Dillenberg was the lead story.
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He once had Bonnie Prince Charles, but, well, he's not a serious representative.
He is a token.
There's many from Great Britain, John Brown's bill, I'm just scanning the list even as we speak, or the British types, Kenneth Clark, a regular, he's a member of Parliament, former Chancellor Exchequer, a conservative member of the British Parliament.
He's, well, I talked to him some years ago, Admitted eyeball-to-eyeball about the Billibergs grant scheme for the NAFTA is through the Free Trade Agreement of the Americas is to expand into the American Union and the dollar will be our euro.
The dollarization process has begun.
Then the Asian Pacific Union will be the third major region in the world for the convenience, administrative convenience of the world government, which is the UN.
And he just acknowledged that directly, not happily, but directly.
Eyeball to eyeball, in the presence of other reporters.
Now, in the last two years, again two years ago, the government was saying, we're going to invade this summer, it's going to be 2002, and you said, nope, from inside Bilderberg, I got the word, it's going to be in 2003 in March.
And then exactly that happened, what, 11 months later after you reported it.
Jim, this year, what was it like when you got on the ground?
Well, this year, Bilderberg has chastised the United States and Britain, and we anticipate that in an advanced story, for not giving enough In the way of foreign aid to poor countries of the world, we should increase taxes in the United States and send more money abroad.
They're the main conduits of sending American tax dollars overseas.
The British were kicked around some too for not giving enough away.
The United States of course kicked around for the invasion of Iraq with some justification.
The Bilderberg from Europe gave some concessions to the United States, because they do recognize that beneath it all, the United States funds one quarter of the UN's operating expenses, one-fourth of an organization of 188 nations.
It's suggested that the economy in Europe should contribute a little bit more, perhaps.
And one-third of the 16 so-called peacekeeping missions uh... and all of the uh...
specifically ill-advised invasion of iraq so uh...
they'll back up a little bit when things get too edgy between the united states
because they do not want to have to make up the difference in one quarter of their general
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Well, one thing that the United States' promising effort to placate the British Was it in Iraq we try to hunker down to more of a defensive operation and let a few or so destroy missions and for that the uh... See I'm trying to remember something uh... Oh, this is a bigger thought crossed my mind.
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Jim, you end direct tax.
You broke the story years ago, literally, before it was even in our media, what, a decade ago?
The plan of this Tobin tax on money transfers.
Now you're saying during the break that they're leaning towards an oil tax because they already controlled that through the cartel, the Arabs are puppets for them.
And this will be trillions of dollars, even though it's a small tax, in the aggregate in the next decade, off of total world oil supply, and bring in international regulations.
In fact, every big global G8 or whatever meeting they have, they now openly talk about this, and I think you and your paper have had a lot to do with that, because ten years ago, five years ago, they totally denied all this.
Now they admit it, but I hadn't heard the inside info that they were moving towards the gas tax.
The Americans are being I think it's a mistake also, and many good patriotic Americans do.
Learning that the Pentagon was considering reducing troop levels in Germany and other places, the Bilderberg reaction was just terrible.
They argued it would undermine unity, etc.
Now, the reason for this is that an American military base in Germany is a local economic generator.
The way those soldiers spend their money, and when they have their families with them living off base, they just do not want the Americans to go away for economic reasons, not military concerns whatsoever.
Now we'll get into the Brits and getting spanked because they can't get their people to accept the Euro, but before we do that, I wanted to You know, talk about the Bilderberg Group and their larger designs.
I mean, obviously, according to your reports two years ago, they said, hold off on the war for a year.
That was their request.
And obviously the EU and the rest of them are profiting from this because they own much of our nation.
And they want us to play the part of the bad cop.
But why were the Bilderbergs, Now you're saying, spanking us for the war, or why were some of them against it?
Of course, without UN permission, all that stuff, we should get permission slips, as Bush would say.
But at that meeting in Chantilly, let's see, not this year, not last year, the year before, 2001, I think it was, Secretary of Defense Rumsfeld roared out from the Pentagon to Chantilly, which is about 30 miles away in Virginia, near Dulles Airport.
To promise the Europeans that the invasion would not come this year.
It will not come this year.
By that time, all the newspapers were reporting that the war will start by late summer or early fall at the very latest.
And oddly, Jim Hoagland, the associate editor for Washington Post and the Billerberg Regular, along with their publisher Donald Graham... Stay there, we'll finish when we get to...
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Going back to Jim Tucker, you were talking about how There were members of the press corps there, one of the owners of the Washington Post there, some of their writers there, and they knew that the war had been put off a year.
You got that information, we're the only person to publish that, and they decided to just ignore it and not tell the people.
What I cannot understand is why Jim Hoagland, he hates to be called Jimmy Lee Hoagland, I should remember that, Jimmy Lee Hoagland, Associated Editor of the Washington Post did not even go over to the World Desk, his own newspaper, and say, boys, pipe down on war by late summer, early fall.
I've got reason to believe it will not occur until next year.
When he was there hearing, Rumsfeld promised it would not start this year.
He didn't say when it would start, but he promised it would not be in the year 2002.
It would be no earlier than the year 2003.
That was an effort to pacify the Uh, uh, European Bilderberg members, and it marked the first time, uh, in history, there's been known to be a, uh, a serious rift in Bilderberg, which has been, uh, traditionally a very congenial group, and they still have their, uh, common goal, of course, of world government and all that jazz.
But, uh, then the rift still persists to this day, uh, with criticism over the Asian, although The United States cut some concessions and they pressured the UN Security Council to vote unanimously to endorse the occupation of Iraq as it is now.
But the American Bilderberg guys on Bush's behalf, especially the Defense and State Department guys, wanted the Europeans to support NATO's formal involvement in the war.
NATO said no, effectively saying we're not going to clean up your mess afterwards.
You got in by yourself, you didn't consult NATO, you did it without consulting NATO or
the UN and so the UN is going to take a very, even blessing the occupation is to be now
with the sovereignty handed over, there's not going to be a heavy UN...
Okay, I wanted to get your take on this, because you're in Washington, you're around this.
I call it propaganda placement, not product placement.
Where the government is paying for stuff in sitcoms, dramas, movies, fake newscasts, newspapers, radio stations, it goes on right here in Austin.
This was out of the London Guardian, it was also the New York Times, but only one small piece of this.
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government fake Bush news reports, TV news in America, that show President Bush giving a standing ovation for political voters have been exposed as fake.
It has emerged the U.S.
government admitted, this is London Guardian, it paid actors to pose as journalists in video news releases sent to TV stations and paid for, by the way, a $70 million ad buy.
Intending to convey support for new laws about health benefits.
And that's just one little piece.
I mean, how far down the big brother police state propaganda chasm have we slipped when only one article about, you know, $70 million media buy with fake newscasts, Jim?
Well, this particular article that you were aware of is where they spent $70 million paying for these fake newscasts to air on TV stations.
I even saw one in Austin last year and I was like, man, that's a weird newscast with these fake newscasters going, people love the president, it's all good.
officers or whatever sitting back with glowing reports of how how how morale is
uh... in iraq even though we did have enough life of those uh...
best uh... bulletproof vest to save some lives of course some of that could be blamed on president clinton
for cutting back the military
and he used military all over the world to Like Monaco, the Windscale Stage 1 invaded Yugoslavia, preventing the threat of Yugoslavia bombing Washington.
Navy, and there's a The reason for that as far as not being enlisted or staying in, because I spent three years overseas and just came to Virginia and just was shocked by the plan.
Basically almost like a police state.
But my big question is why it's not in the news that half our Navy fleet got deployed to their new Navy search program.
Or, say now, an aircraft carrier doesn't travel alone.
An aircraft carrier travels with a group of destroyers, frigates, flyships, submarines, and X amount of air weight, depending on size of the carrier, can hold about 100 aircraft.
Well, there has been some speculation that we'd hit Syria very quickly if the Iraq War had calmed down as quickly and neatly as the administration mistakenly expected.
I hope this is not a build-up for an invasion of Syria before we Can even settle down a rock.
Well, the administration might have some helpful terror events, like they said in PNAC documents, that get us all behind that in the new national draft.
Not so much talk of the draft at Bilderberg that I'm aware of, but there are draft bills pending in the Congress, and President Bush is now quietly Filling in the manpower at the old draft boards that we knew before.
Kids were told to simply go down and tell the post office where you are in case we ever need a draft.
I would like to ask you if you believe that Maybe not necessarily the Bilderbergers by themselves, but the Bilderbergers in combination with the Trilateralists and these other large secret groups are in a position to have enough strength to dictate pretty well what the President can and can't do in the United States.
Well, as demonstrated so many times, they can bring tremendous pressure.
And understand now that every presence since Ford up until Excluding Reagan to a certain extent, but up until the current president has been a member of either Bilderberg or Trilateral Commission.
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The Trilateral Commission is a little bit more public.
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The CFR with 3,000 members, their job is to produce a Well-reasoned white paper reflecting what Bilderberg wants done.
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Jim, I kind of want to end this interview like we started it, but maybe elaborate on it.
If you've got five movie stars at the beach, 50 reporters go out there.
Yes.
If you get 120 somewhere, it's a major television event with 30 million viewers.
If they were hiding in secret in a mansion doing something, as you said, people would be catapulting themselves to the windows.
But 120 richest people in the world, royalty, people who were normally followed by the paparazzi, Suddenly, they're meeting in secret, admitting it's about government, but if we ask questions, somehow we're bad.
The BBC, I don't know if you saw that article, viciously attacked those.
They said, well, McVeigh and Bin Laden talk about this.
Maybe if you talk about it, you're with them.
I mean, this is really childish psychology they're using.
Although, the newspapers in Italy, some of the big metropolitan big papers, Which gave such heavy attention, and of course I can't read Italian, so the other reporters, when we gather for our evening meetings to compare notes and exchange information, they gladly said that they treated me nicely in a couple of interviews by their newspapers of me.
Because the press, well, The press of the United States is very easily controlled.
The heads of the major newspapers have all attended at one time or another.
The Washington Post is regular, but they've had the New York Times, the LA Times, all the major network anchors at one time or another on a lifetime promise of absolute secrecy, report nothing, say nothing.
So they bring major newspaper editors in, you sign a non-disclosure agreement, that's admitted, and then now you can't have a report on any of those issues.
I'm saying that Jimmy Lee Hoagland is a journalistic prostitute, as is his boss, young Donald Graham, as were the late Mrs. Graham and the late Phil Graham before him, going all the way back to Not 1954 and well this year as usual to the guys from the Economist of London Gideon Rockman and Adrian Wooldridge were there as rapporteurs they call them.
They've made that promise, and there's several others.
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