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Colonel Don DeGrand is an author.
He's a military veteran.
He put on a symposium a few years ago that made headlines in major newspapers in Portugal.
We have one of those articles posted.
And it says, a Portugal-based investigative journalist has presented the news with a version of the September 11th attacks that has to date failed to attract the attention of the international press.
The report compiled by the Independent Inquiry and the September 11th World Trade Center attacks warns the American public that the government's official version of events does not stand up to scrutiny.
And the man who put this on was Colonel Don DeGrande, who's an American, And the 72-hour non-stop symposium deliberation by a group of military and civilian pilots under the chairmanship of Colonel Don DeGrand after deliberating non-stop for 72 hours has concluded that the flight crews of the four passenger airliners involved in the September 11 tragedy had no control over their aircraft.
And they get into how the Global has clearly carried it out.
Now this was two years ago, folks!
A very cutting-edge.
Now, the mainstream foreign press has addressed it, and most Europeans believe the U.S.
government carried it out.
A lot of Americans are now waking up and talking to this trailblazer, cutting-edge pioneer, Colonel Don DeGrande.
I entered the military in 1944 as a Eighteen-year-old radio operator, Morse Code, and I was sent to Burma and China.
I was attached to Detachment 101, which was OSS, and I operated out of Burma and then later on in Kunming, China, along with such notable people as a tall, skinny gal by the name of Julia Child.
She's since put on a little weight and now she's doing television commercials, I guess.
But I came back on active duty in 1950 as a commissioned officer, infantry airborne, and I got involved in the Korean praecus for a year and a half until I was wounded.
Then I was shipped home for two years while I recuperated.
We have a news article about an incredible symposium he put on two years ago in Portugal, covered by Front Page newspaper and magazine, Portugal's, one of their major papers.
And a lot of key info came out, very cutting edge.
And this is his first interview since he had a stroke, well over a year ago, and it's great to have the Colonel on the show.
So he got into OSS right at the end of World War II, then went into Korea for a year and a half, was wounded with the Airborne, and that's where we left off, Colonel.
Actually I went to work then for SecDef Bob McNamara.
He hired me as the Chief Arms Negotiator for the Middle East.
We conducted our business there.
We were known as the super salesmen in ISA, International Security Affairs.
Over a ten year period we sold over a hundred billion dollars worth of military equipment to all comers.
Then, you mentioned the interview in Portugal.
I didn't actually go to Portugal, but on 11 September, actually it was 12 September, I wrote to my friend General Hugh Shelton, who was Chairman of the Joint Chiefs at that time, he was transisting out, and he was replaced by General Richard, what the heck was The Chairman of the Joint Chiefs, the name escapes me, but he was a four-star Air Force General and Myers, I guess, was the name.
At any rate, I called together from 16 through 19 September in the Pentagon area, not in the Pentagon, a group of military, civilian, and general aviation pilots.
And for three days we kicked around what actually happened on 11 September.
And then the investigative journalist covered that and it was reported in the Portugal News and very accurate.
I have the report in front of me and it is quite involved but if you have some questions, fire away Alex.
Well, now, you got these military officers together, and then I guess the only place I ever saw it get reported on was here in Portugal, talked about the symposium.
Of course, I've read one of your fine books.
And we'll talk about that as well a little bit later in the show and take some calls.
But what was laid out, what I saw in the four-page article two years ago has turned out to be very accurate.
uh... tell us about the military officers the pilots uh... the civilian pilots that were there and the
conclusions you came to in the seventy two hour non-stop
The group of pilots, and they will remain anonymous, were a wonderful mix of commercial, military, and civilian pilots.
At any rate, after three days, the decisions were unanimous, and I wrote my 24-page report up and submitted it to the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs.
And that report ultimately got into the hands of the Vice Chairman of the Joint Chiefs on 23 January 2002.
The General was a U.S.
Marine Corps General by the name of Peter Pace.
And I got a telephone call, 5 March, from one of his horse holders, who was a Colonel Air Force type, and he informed me that General Peter Pace had gotten the 24 pages, and that he in effect had no comment at this time, but he used the old Marine Corps lingo, Semper Fi, or Always Faithful, and we let it go at that.
Later on I continued my correspondence with the Vice Chairman, and most recently I got a letter, 8 November 2003, from Peter Pace.
To me, carrying on about not only the investigation, but about the three books that I've written since that time.
Now, Colonel, going over your report and the committee meeting you guys had to put out what you believe really happened, Now, as more evidence has come out, it shows that that's clearly exactly what happened.
Now they're using 9-11 to turn this country into a total police state.
I got a telephone call, and I think the date was 5 March 2002, stating that at the time, the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs had no comment, but he used the Marine Corps lingo, Semper Fi.
self-sacrifice fidelity always faithful
and that triggered uh... in the uh... further memos and i traded memos with
uh...
general peter pace and uh... dick meyers
and uh...
they continued on well i have a little bit of last year
Well, there was an article right after the events you talk about, in mid-2002, for the Washington Times, saying the morale of the Pentagon had never been lower.
And you would think it would be high after 9-11 and getting together to fight the enemy, but it said that the officers didn't believe in the quote, mission, or in the intelligence.
That came out of the Washington Times, and I can verify that from Colonel Dick Schultz, who is a friend of mine and the Joint Chiefs.
Morell was not only low but he said some of the troops are ready to mutiny and if it wasn't for the fact that the government, the civilian hierarchy has control over retirements, They'd probably be blood in the streets by now.
And as we delved into that, we found that the culprits, including Rumsfeld, were part of a neocon group that had been planning this thing for literally years prior to September 11th.
Well, I've had a single sideband shortwave set for about four years, and I listened very faithfully to Alex Jones, particularly, up until about two years ago.
As a result of the events of September 11th, I did have a stroke.
I'm fully recovered.
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And under the aegis of the military itself, Disengaging or disemboweling the civilian hierarchy and taking over and re-running and reorganizing the federal government.
Now the problem is they've got so many CFR minions in the Pentagon, we know that Clinton had some officers terminated in their offices, you know, shot multiple times and the rest of it.
We know that happened But the question is how many of the high-level officers are on the Globalist team?
But, Colonel, I mean, your experience, you know, in the military, your experience in the intelligence agencies, there's also the danger, though, obviously, in any military movement of that nature, that it could be self-serving as well and set up its own form of wickedness.
Well, this is certainly dividing the wheat from the chaff, because how many people... And we'll get the answer to the question when we get back.
From your feelers in the Pentagon, how many people in there now know that an element of the global system, a crime syndicate, carried out 9-11?
I mean, only an idiot would think they didn't, but the point is, this has got to be accelerating the division, and I want to get your take on the pulse of that.
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We're talking to Colonel Don DeGrand Prix and worked at many different levels of the U.S.
military and has put out some really important information.
Two years ago, he put out a report in a meeting in a 72-hour deliberation A group of military and civilian US pilots under the chairmanship of Colonel Don DeGran, after deliberating non-stop for 72 hours, has concluded that the flight crews of the four passenger airliners involved in the September 11th tragedy had no control over the aircraft.
And they get into how the military-industrial complex clearly, that is elements of it, were in control of this.
Colonel, we're going to go to some calls here in a few minutes after you've covered some other issues with us.
But to understand this, you know, my question of what percentage of the officer's period in the military do you think have finally woken up to the true magnitude of what's going on?
Well, I break it down in the time frame that we had satellite images of rounds or missiles being fired from the Negev Desert toward Baghdad, that's 600 miles distance, and six or eight of the rounds came in.
Do you think the globalists are going to have the will to carry out another massive attack here in the US to try to Well, that's a two-pronged question, Alex.
I think it deserves a studied answer.
get their agenda back on track or do you think they've calculated
computed as you said uh... that that will blow up in their face because so many
Well, from watching The Globalist, I think they had a plan, they're still following a plan, but I think they're shook up.
I think from the evidence, in fact I know from the evidence, a lot of things they planned haven't gone according to schedule, and so they don't know what to do right now.
And the precision of those weapons that came in and into the hotel.
There were 11 rounds in all and I can speak from authenticity that they scared the hell out of Paul Wolfowitz and probably Sue Paul Brenner or whatever his name is.
He was at a press dinner last year and, again, giggling and laughing about how we're going to have World War III, we're going to nuke everyone, ha ha ha.
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Right, right, the movie.
Um, I had a question, um...
I've known in the past that you've talked about people who do these movies like the Skulls, and you kind of paint a picture that it's some agenda to take away from the legitimacy of the argument.
And I wonder, when you talk about conspiracy theory, that's also a Mel Gibson movie, that you don't kind of put it in those same terms.
I'm not going to tell you what I know about Mel Gibson, but I know a lot of private stuff, and I know the family, and I've met a lot of the family, and I'm not going to go any further, but Mel Gibson's the real deal, and knows as much as I do about the New World Order, and listens to these shows, watches my videos, knew about the New World Order when I was in diapers.
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Colonel, do you have any comments about Mel Gibson?
I was calling about something else, but it'll dovetail into this.
Your last caller, I don't understand his philosophy, other than I do see it being propagated by the corporate media now, in reference to Mel Gibson, that turning a fair and legitimate profit is somehow illicit.
So I guess we're supposed to allow Luciferians to make profit, and we're supposed to live, as you say, in a box.
Yeah, we've got elements of the government helping produce these propaganda pieces, Colonel.
We'll get your comment on that when we get back.
Stay there, Ron.
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uh... i think what ron in new york colonel and on the grand prix is getting
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and on every episode the police are torturing the would-be terrorist
These messages, not just on the news, but in the television shows, and there's been articles that the military, the government is involved in financing this.
Well, their favorite thing is to say, you had a 9-11 call, then you check the records the next day, it never happened, and you just wake up with a SWAT team standing around you.
Alex, that is something that is taking place here in New York.
I had an associate of mine, you know, I'm retired, of course, from law enforcement.
And like the military, you have two categories of people.
Those that are basically decent and, you know, believe in the rule of law, as we morally understand that.
And then, moral degenerates.
That's what's happened.
I'm sorry, but that's the truth.
You've filtered into that.
And, uh, you will find that these morally degenerated units engage in that here.
That happened just the other day.
I know of an incident.
This is what's going on.
It's like they're trying to graft police and military forces to do dirty work, but they can't get all the police and all the military personnel to go along with it.
And this is slowing them up.
However, they're still out there, and they're still trying to push it, and this is going on.
This is like a battle between the light and the darkness.
It is, and we'll get the Colonel's comments on that and take more calls here in just a few minutes.
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And, well, going back two years ago, he had a symposium outside D.C.
that got picked up by the Portugal newspapers, but not our newspapers, of course.
A 72-hour non-stop deliberation chaired by Colonel Don DeGrand Prix.
By a group of military and civilian U.S.
pilots under the chairmanship of our guest, going over how the official story of 9-11 is a complete fraud.
It'd be a joke if so many people weren't killed.
So, Colonel, the militarization of police, the brainwashing of police, all this urban warfare training, the busting in the doors without the warrants, the Patriot Act, The cameras going up on the street corners, all part of this DARPA control grid.
Okay, well, let's go ahead and go to John in New York, then Wayne, Diane, John, Scott, and others.
Go ahead, John.
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Terrific guest.
I called in about a news article, very important.
And after I give everybody information about that, I'd like to make a comment about 9-1-1.
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Alright, 8 minutes, 30 seconds into this third hour.
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We'll have our guest with us for another 25 minutes or so, then I'm going to get into this big stack of news we have not detailed yet.
Believe me, it's all very important.
Our guest is Colonel Don DeGranpre.
Honored to have him on the show.
He's the author of a three-part series of books, Barbarians Inside the Gates.
And real quick, John in New York, you had a question about 9-11.
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It's not a question, I want to make a comment.
I was in the Air Force, my career field was radar operations, and I was assigned to the Air Defense Command.
The airliners turned around at Erie, Pennsylvania, and were off course for approximately one hour at the wrong altitude, at the wrong speed, Without radio contact and it is absolutely insane for anybody to believe that could have happened unless people were told to stand down.
In 18 minutes, have five F-16s around him in the middle of nowhere.
You have the most sensitive air corridor in the world, the eastern coast there, D.C.
New York, with these four planes all over the map and they know there's been hijackings and Dick Cheney's in control and everything's standing down.
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The fighters that were stationed in Virginia, just across the border from Washington, D.C., could have been flying at buster speed, which is max speed.
They could have intercepted those planes in 15 minutes and saved all that tragedy.
And the second airplane was 15 minutes behind the first airplane, so to think that they didn't do anything about the second one makes it even more ludicrous.
So, terrific guest, terrific show, thanks for taking my call.
I mean, Kennedy's oldest son, JFK's big brother, died in a chase plane with remote controlling in a A bomber loaded with explosives as a drone in 1944.
And for people that are in total denial, I mean, it's ridiculous.
Let's go ahead and talk to Wayne in Virginia.
Wayne, thanks for holding.
Go ahead.
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Yes, sir.
Thank you.
I have a two-part question.
The first part is, Colonel, John DeGramperie.
DeGramperie, I'm sorry sir, I stumbled over your name there, but could you play the instructor with us, ground pounders, for a little while and tell us why, from an airmanship point of view, the maneuvers the aircraft performed were just inexplicable and bordering on the impossible from a pilot's point of view?
Yes, let me give it real quick, Wayne, from Virginia.
These planes were being piloted by Remote control, probably an AWACS aircraft taking over that airplane, or airplanes, or drones, unmanned drones, and flying them at five and eight G-force that no pilot could withstand.
So in short, and if you read books two and three, you will discover how and why this came about.
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The second part of my question is, After 9-11, our congressman from down here, Randy Forbes, spoke at a Veterans Foreign Wars Hall about how close he was to the Bush and Rumsfeld cabal and how before 9-11 he had a briefing at the White House where they were told they were expecting something big from Afghanistan.
He also, in his discussion, there was about two or three hundred people there, It was recorded on film and my notes are very clear on this.
He also said they were following other aircraft out over the ocean.
Do you have any knowledge of that?
Something I've not heard discussed at all about 9-11.
Yeah, you remote control the original planes out, then you're loaded up, drones attack.
And the major, the biggest and oldest newspaper in Spain just came out three weeks ago, and they looked at the bottom of one of those jets, and there's some type of giant belly attachment.
That your line of discussion here, Colonel, in the past few minutes has just opened up.
You said earlier that you expected when push comes to shove that this 70% Of general and field grade officers, we're going to say that's it.
Well, the enterprise that we're discussing here of taking loaded, regularly scheduled civilian airlines out and ditching them into the ocean and putting in their places aerial bombs... Yeah, that is push coming to shove.
But let me say this, we know, because, I mean, folks, I don't want to give too much detail out, but I've talked to them, lawyers have talked to them, we know hundreds of high-level officers have leaked everything we're now learning about today.
So I think that this caught a lot of people unawares.
I understand, but going back to when we know they had bombs in the buildings, that's now admitted, but going back to what the caller said, you're saying these elements of the military, when push comes to shove, are going to stand up.
Well, I'd say 9-11 was the globalist pushing, so where's the shove?
Yeah, and he wrote about it in 2000 and it happens a year later.
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Okay, here's my question.
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A United Airlines Flight 93 shot down in Pennsylvania by a U.S.
or NATO pilot, and was that what was supposed to hit the Pentagon?
I know the pilot who fired those two missiles that took down 93.
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Was it shot down because the airline pilots actually regained control of the hijacked autopilot or was that the replacement unmanned drone that was shot down?
There had been an adjustment to the controls, probably by an AWACS aircraft flying overhead again, remote control, and it was on a course for either the Capitol or the White House, and at this stage you don't know.
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Colonel, before we take these four final calls, Go over that a little bit slower for folks.
That's a big deal.
You've talked to the pilot, a friend of yours, who shot down Flight 93 that was going for the Capitol or the White House.
Earlier in the show you mentioned that both Chaney and Wolfowitz might be in some trouble.
I was wondering if they've been serving the real rulers of the world, the 13 families or whoever they are, and been dutifully pushing the agenda for world government, but... Yeah, obviously they're just minion administrator policy wonk puppets, so you're saying... They've been doing a good job for them.
Why are they in danger versus, say, Powell or Rice or Bush, or are they all in danger?
Now, I will say this, I will say this, General Rick Baucus, over a year ago, Rhode Island native, the head of Gitmo, in Honobo Bay, he resigned and said, I'm not going to torture innocent people.
Now, that hardly got any press.
We have two-star generals quitting.
We have a lot of people not going along with this already.
Well, also the Pentagon just came out and said that Halliburton's been stealing and is going to do a criminal investigation.
We'll see what happens with that, but thanks for the call, Scott.
June, in mass.
June, you're on the air.
Go ahead.
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Hi.
I hope you're not going to be offended, but you know, I'm really suspicious of that stroke, because a lot of us don't trust the pharmaceutical companies or the medical business.
Alright, because if we don't win this, it's all over.
I mean, really, this is for all the marbles.
These people are evil.
Thank you for the call, Warren.
Let's talk to Greg in Alabama.
Last caller.
Greg, go ahead.
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Alex, God bless you.
God bless your wife for being there behind you and making sure that you're continuing to do this for this country.
Yeah, she's great.
I can't even say anything enough about her, and I don't even know the woman.
I just want to point out a couple things, and I hope you don't treat me the way that people treat you when you try to bring this stuff to the forefront.
Okay, go ahead.
This is very, very important.
As you can tell, I'm shaking.
I finally get through to talk to you.
On your videos, everything is true.
I don't have to tell you.
You already know.
As soon as you see the truth in front of you, it is already evident.
The explanations and the excuses that are given to you before that, they just disappear because you, everybody knows deep inside that there is something wrong, that there is an evil power somewhere, and through all the definitions from movies, books, people get everything so confused and you're able to bring it all to the forefront and just lay it out.
You mentioned Malak several times, the Babylonian, the eye on the pyramid, which you mentioned several times in the video.
Yeah, I just watched Police State 3 for the first time after I bought six of your videos.
I will support you until I die, until anybody lays a finger on you, I will be there for you no matter what.
What I need for your listeners to hear is every night when I listen to your radio show or when I'm sitting here at work listening to it and I'm taking all the grief from the people that I work with, I don't care.
There's a certain knowledge that was known in the beginning of our beginning of time, which is this cycle of our system that we're in now, this last 3,000 or 10,000 years, whatever it was the beginning.
The ancient Egyptians, which were not called the ancient Egyptians, where the pyramids, all that comes from, all that understanding that that comes from, there was a pure understanding before the Europeans came in and took over those nations.
And then told everybody else what they were about.
The Illuminati got a lot of the secret knowledge information, suppressed it, and that's what a lot of this is about today.
And that's why the Global Assemble is the all-seeing eye on the pyramid, because they're laughing at us, saying, we've got the secret knowledge, you profane idiots don't know anything.
You want to comment on this, Colonel?
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Can I just finish something really quick?
Yeah, go ahead.
I don't mean to disrespect either of you, you guys are great people.
That's okay, go ahead.
The thing is, is that just like with everything you say, once you say it, and once you hear it, you just automatically know it.
If you need to go look into it any further and check it out and verify it for yourself, that's fine.
There are two authors that I'm aware of right now that I know there's more, just like there's more people like you.
One, his name is Mustapha Gadala.
He is a native Egyptian.
And the other, his name is Rahun Nefer Amin.
He is the author of the Metu Neture, which he wrote in trance.
The devil, all that stuff can be completely understood just the way that you understand it now by going to Egypt-Tehuti.com Egypt-Tehuti, T-E-H-U-T-I, reading the Metru Neture, you don't have to follow along with the The names and the people and the cults and all that stuff.
