Alex Jones and Michael Shrimpton dissect the alleged murder of Dr. David Kelly, claiming British intelligence orchestrated his death via poison to protect Tony Blair's Iraq war lies. They link this to broader conspiracies involving the Skull and Bones society, rigged Diebold voting machines, and globalist manipulation through Ralph Nader. The broadcast further addresses the chaos at the southern border, anti-Semitism charges against Mel Gibson, and FBI corruption, ultimately painting a picture of a totalitarian state where free speech is crushed and elections are stolen by secret elites. [Automatically generated summary]
Well, last week you may have seen a story floating around that somebody inside the British government had sources that said that they could confirm that Dr. David Kelly had been killed.
We've already got all these top doctors and scientists coming forward and saying that.
We've got all the evidence and even mainstream headlines saying, is this what happened?
Well, he's got sources inside MI5, MI6, and from the information he has, they know how He knows how they killed him, how they killed Dr. David Kelly, and why they killed Dr. David Kelly.
And that's because they have to protect Tony Blair at all costs, because Tony Blair is Europe's man to bring in the euro.
And according to the information that my guest is going to be sharing with us, the French intelligence was used to do the dirty work, which is what I've seen in the past.
An intelligence agency of a country will use its sister intelligence agency that it works with in another nation to do hits for them, and that happens vice versa.
That happened at Waco, according to the Fort Worth Star newspaper, where they used MI5-controlled special air services people out there doing some of the wet work.
So this is done over and over again, where they use foreign troops, foreign individuals, to kill their own people internally, because it's very dangerous to use your own intelligence people to kill fellow intelligence people, like Dr. David Kelly, who was a top spy, and of course, head of Fort Downe Bioweapons Lab, and the head British inspector.
So, again, that's coming up the next hour.
We appreciate Mr. Shrimpton, Michael Shrimpton, coming on the show, Barrister Shrimpton, Again, who's even given security briefings to the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence here in our own country.
He'll be joining us from England, and I want to thank the folks that helped us put this story together.
We'll be writing an article tonight and thanking them, all the great folks that have been involved in this.
And then when we get back, it is true, I made some phone calls after I got better this weekend.
It is true, in In Lyon County, Kentucky, it is illegal to give someone one of my videotapes.
It's illegal to give them a History Channel videotape.
It's illegal to speak out against any government policy.
And I've made the phone calls, got the faxes, got the news articles.
That's true, too.
So we'll talk about that a lot more.
Just stay with us.
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Hey folks, Alex Jones here and I'm very excited to announce the release of my
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That's right folks, DVD.
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If you want to wake up your friends and families to the truth of what happened on September 11th, this is the film for you.
The Road to Tyranny is already sending shockwaves through Washington and across the United States.
You absolutely must see this DVD.
It covers the history of government-sponsored terrorism, the police state and homeland security, the nightmare UN population control programs, the cashless society control grid, satellite tracking and plannable microchips, and much, much more.
All right, my friends, a big show for you today, eight minutes into this three-hour broadcast.
Coming up in the next hour, we have Michael Shrimpton, national Intelligence barrister and so does national intelligence work for the government national security work again he has briefed the Senate Select Committee on
On intelligence and terrorism here in the U.S.
and he has traveled extensively all over the world and spoken and consulted concerning terrorism and he says the evidence is clear.
He has his sources throughout the British government.
He knows who killed Dr. David Kelly.
So you're not going to want to miss this interview in the second hour.
Three doctors dispute how David Kelly died.
This was, of course, out of major British newspapers a week ago.
As medical professionals and trauma orthopedic surgeon, a specialist in anesthesiology and a diagnostic radiologist, we do not think evidence given at the Hutton Inquiry has demonstrated that Dr. David Kelly committed suicide!
And then, David Halpin, who we've got coming on this week, trauma and orthopedic surgeon, talks about how he was clearly murdered.
Dr. C. Stephen Frost, B.C., M.B., C.H.B., specialist in diagnostic radiology, Stockholm, Sweden, is also going to be coming on the show, talks about how he was clearly whacked and others.
So, you do not want to miss this.
And of course, he told colleagues that I'm going to be murdered and put in the woods for what I've said.
And a few weeks later, he was dead.
It's like Princess Diana saying, Prince Charles is going to kill me in a fake automobile accident if I don't stop, you know, going out with Dowdy.
This is what this big spy chief was saying, and then it happens to him.
And I was talking to Mr. Shrimpton, Barrister Shrimpton today, and he said people are very mad at intelligence.
I mean, they don't like it when their own people are being killed.
So that's coming up.
I mentioned in the last segment that it indeed is true that in areas of Kentucky there is no First Amendment.
I called the judge up this weekend concerning that case we talked about last Wednesday before I fell ill on this Thursday and Friday with the dastardly flu.
And I had the caller who called into the show and he talked about how he just gave a cop a video and the cop later pulled him over and said this was a threat and took him to jail.
It wasn't just my video, it was Discovery Channel, C-SPAN stuff, History Channel programs.
And the officer thought that this was a threat.
You know, mainstream television shows.
Here, watch this.
It's informative.
And I found out from the prosecutor's office that, well, they don't really want to prosecute this, but the state police have requested it.
Of course, they've got the proper federal training and all.
And they decided to go ahead and, well, he's in court right now.
He's supposed to call an aftercourt.
And tell us what happens if Kelly Rushing even gets out of there.
I talked to his brother, Tim Rushing.
Kelly got my videos from Tim.
And Tim's brother gave him the contraband material, the Evil History and Discovery Channel pieces, and C-SPAN pieces as well.
So this is America, folks, and the judge just sat there and told them, you're guilty of giving a police officer anti-government, anti-police material.
And remember, I have the mainstream documents.
Law Enforcement Technology Magazine says if they've got to get us out of the UN sticker on their car, go ahead and take them to jail.
Chances are they're a terrorist or a criminal.
And it even said in there, Police Chiefs, don't criticize your men and women for doing this.
They're doing the right thing.
Go ahead and find something on these people.
Major magazines say, go ahead and find something on us, because we don't like the UN.
I mean the Republican Party platform in most states says get out of the U.N.
The Texas platform does.
Most people don't like the U.N.
Even liberals don't like the U.N.
in many cases.
But even everybody hated it.
And we were 1% of the population.
It's called the First Amendment.
You morons!
What is wrong with you?
And a good old boy with no criminal record.
I mean, I called all over town.
I talked to the newspaper.
I talked to his family.
I call people randomly out of the, you know, from information.
Hey, do you know this Kelly Rushing?
Oh, he's a really nice man.
Helps in the community.
Stays to himself.
It's a little bitty town.
He just gives a police officer a view.
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This is by Jewish leader Daniel LePen, who's a rabbi.
And he's saying exactly what I said last week.
That the ADL should not represent Jews, and that it's a sick joke.
And that they cause division, and that all the Jews he's talking to think it's a big joke, and are friends with Christians, and he says every Christian he knows likes Jews.
I like Jews!
I got Jewish friends!
And I'm sick of this!
I'm tired of the ADL and the rest of these people!
And you gotta read this Daily News editorial.
It's on Infowars.com, by this rabbi.
I mean, it's like I wrote this article or something.
I mean, I'm totally in agreement with this guy.
And I'm not going to get into Hutton Gibson.
I've talked to Hutton Gibson many times.
He is not anti-Semitic.
He says he doesn't like Nazis.
He doesn't like Zionists.
He doesn't like the corrupt Catholic Church.
I mean, there's not a lot of things that Hutton Gibson likes, and he's the winner of, you know, Jeopardy, and he knows history, and he's a pretty smart guy, and he does think the Holocaust happened.
He just debates the numbers and says that people should be allowed to debate those numbers, and he says these interviews have been taken out of context, and so we'll see what happens.
I had MSNBC call me.
I had CNN call.
I had a bunch of other people call.
And I'm not doing interviews.
I'm not going to go on national TV and talk about Hutton Gibson.
Alexander Emmerich Jones doesn't do that to his friends.
I can care less about being on MSNBC or CNN or something like that.
I'm just not going to do it.
I thought about going on and defending Hutton.
I'm just not going to get involved in it.
I'm just not going to get involved in it.
Who knows, I might have a change of heart and do it.
I've been a little weird, folks.
I'm somebody who never gets sick.
I mean, I get a cold or something, I just ignore it.
I get a fever, it's like I don't have it.
Well, let me tell you.
Let me tell you.
I had a 104 fever for two days.
I had to go to the emergency clinic.
I was puking for two days.
I mean, every hour on the hour.
Dry heaves.
I don't know why I'm even telling you about this, but I feel like a new man.
I mean, I just feel cleansed somehow, and I feel really good.
And, uh, so... I'm saying I don't know what I'll do tomorrow.
I'm kind of unpredictable right now.
House votes for ignition interlocks on every vehicle.
Now, folks, I have a stack.
This is why I'm frustrated.
It's been four or five days since I've been on the air, and it's just a giant stack.
House votes for ignition interlocks on every vehicle.
And, uh, hmm, sounds interesting.
Do you know what that's fancy doublespeak for?
Well, what I told you they were going to do.
And again, I hate to say it, because I told you, because I told you, because I told you, but I have their official plans.
New Mexico has passed the law out of the House, it's in the Senate, to make everyone blow a breathalyzer to start your car.
Everyone guilty until proven innocent.
Why?
If it just saves one life.
And then they're going to say that this doesn't work because people have others blow, so oh, we're going to have to retina scan you, and it'll decide if you're drunk, and this will be the new law.
Now, how do I know that?
Because I saw the federal plans four or five years ago, I read Houston Chronicle articles three years ago, They have a system that they're already putting into businesses all over the country, and the Feds are using a retina scanner that also reads microscopic movement of the eye, and it'll decide if you're on drugs, or drunk, or tired, and they want to put all these in the cars, and so they're going to make you use the breathalyzer, then people are going to cheat, and they're going to say, okay, you've got a retina scan to start your car.
Now that's the official plan.
If you want to put up with it, go ahead.
And then if you're not a good globalist, they turn your car off, and they're going to have infrared cameras on all the cars by 2005, quote, as a detector if there's a child in the car when it's too hot.
But again, the federal plan is it's really a camera.
Just like I told you, OnStar is listening to you.
Now that's mainstream news, hooked in with the NSA listening to you with computers.
So I'll get back into this.
I could spend an hour on that.
Remember last week, we talked about the bill where if you fly any flag with the American flag, you're arrested as a terrorist.
If you criticize the government, you're arrested as a terrorist.
I mean, I read from the bill.
In Rhode Island, and they passed the law in other states.
People couldn't believe it.
We posted the Providence Journal articles and others at InfoWars.com.
Here it is, right here in front of me.
And it says, Governor pulls bill on Homeland Security.
The Governor, who says he is surprised by the reaction to his proposal, will introduce another anti-terrorism law this legislative session.
See, that's what they do.
Governor withdrew his Homeland Security bill yesterday after Congressional scholars from the American Civil Liberties Union assailed the proposal as a dangerous assault on civil rights.
The Governor said he had not read the bill, but that his staff wrote it before he made it public.
But he received a briefing.
This is not the kind of reaction I anticipated or expected.
The governor said in a brief news conference outside his office.
And so he now claims he hadn't read the bill.
And it was the 1918 Sedition Law, the one Savage calls for, that if you criticize the government in time of war, you're put in a forced labor camp.
And I have another bill here where we have them in Canada calling for forest forced labor camps.
Yes, it's really happening.
And if we don't speak up, they're going to pass this stuff.
If we do speak up, they're not going to get away with it.
And some people don't believe what this bill had in it.
So later if I have time, I want to read some of what was in this bill.
Supreme Court upholds judges' right to compel medication to prepare you for trial.
Years of FBI agents' crimes to tell from CBS News.
I could spend an hour on the murders, the heroin, the cocaine dealing.
They are organized crime.
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And they say Bin Laden is surrounded.
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As we said they would years ago.
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Anti-Semitism charges causing more damage than film could.
And that's true.
Nobody would have even gone to this film and thought anything about Jews.
I mean, Jesus was a Jew, folks.
And that, you know, that's what happened.
He was criticizing the corruption of the establishment and of the religion.
Also, I want to get back into house votes for ignition interlocks on every vehicle.
They've passed a law, it's out of the house in New Mexico, and other states are doing the same thing, it's federally funded to do all this, to make you blow a breathalyzer to start your car, training you that you're guilty until proven innocent.
It's the new Soviet model.
Do I have to explain how this is un-American?
And I want to get back into the governor of Rhode Island having to pull this bill.
I mean, I've never seen one this bad, where if you fly any flag with the American flag, you'll be put in a camp.
If you criticize the government, you'll be put in a camp.
And the Supreme Court saying, hey, we can grab you, not even charge you, drug you as long as we want to.
That's the New York Times.
This CBS article about the FBI murder, drug dealing, prostitution, running organized crime.
The John Gottis of the world work for the FBI.
And when one stops paying their cut, the FBI busts them and calls them a kingpin.
When Noriega stops paying in the cocaine money, he gets a military raid.
When Saddam stops paying in the oil money and the BCCI, he gets a raid.
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These are mid-level nobodies.
Bin Laden is surrounded.
Sunday Telegraph, Washington Times, U.S.
search for Bin Laden intensifies.
Oh, they've got him.
So, we'll get back into that, too.
That's the first half inch of a four-inch stack.
Okay?
But right now, The next ten minutes or so, part of the segment of the next segment, I want to talk to Tim Rushing, and I know his brother's trying to get in on the line, the man this happened to, Kelly Rushing, out in Lyon County, Kentucky, where giving someone a C-SPAN video is punishable by one year in prison.
uh... the police uh... the state police and prosecutor they say yes uh... you're not allowed to give police mainstream videos and say sir this might be informative uh... and i'm not joking i mean you know we don't joke on the show folks if we are joking we'll tell you i mean this is just let's be honest about how sovietized we've gotten and uh... Tim is the brother of uh... Kelly and uh... Mr. Rushing good to have you on the show how did your brothers uh...
Probably, it would be my guess, that the officer that watched the tape, he was probably guilty of some of the tactics that he portrayed on the film and got a little upset and thought he'd take it out on Kelly.
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He's the T-Rex of political talk, Alex Jones, on the GCN Radio Network.
Waging war on corruption, crashing the lives of disinformation, coming up... Michael Shrimpton, national security lawyer, barrister in England, Written for the Journal of International Security Affairs, briefed the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence here in our own country, bringing forward the evidence from his inside sources of who really killed Dr. David Kelly.
Believe me, you're not going to want to miss this interview.
We're going to finish up with our guest here in just a few minutes with the First Amendment
here in America, the state of it, with the incredibly brainwashed, zombified state police
and other militarized law enforcement agencies around the country who really ought to move
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Then we'll get to four or five phone calls and then back into some other news and then
to our next guest.
There is so much here today.
We're talking to Kelly Rushing, who lives in Lyons County, Kentucky, who gave a video
to a state police officer.
I have the state police officer's own police report.
He says that he was given this video and he says that it was threatening.
Mr. Rushing's brother, Tim Rushing, made the videos.
It was C-SPAN, History Channel, Discovery Channel stuff.
One of my videos.
And by the way, one of my videos, stuff from my videos, is aired on national TV.
This is just documented stuff, just like this show, mainstream news stuff.
We just analyze it.
Nothing threatening to this guy.
So he goes and has him arrested.
And by the way, this just happened to a Keep and Bear Arms writer, who also writes for Guns and Ammo.
He had police come to his house, Because he wrote a letter to the San Francisco Police Department saying, you guys are violating the law, uh, handing out these, uh, marriage certificates.
That's all he said.
And they came out and said, you know, you're a gun writer.
You're not planning to use some guns, are you?
I mean, that's how, see, it's all these secret police need to talk to you, because you might, you know, do something, but the border stays wide open.
Going back here for a few minutes to Kelly Rushing.
Kelly, what happened to you, thought criminal that you are, when you went in now to the court this morning before Judge William G. McCaslin for your crime, as he said, of giving someone an anti-government videotape?
Now through discovery before that tape disappears and the cop claims that you were, you know, Flying around with flying saucers and black satanic altars and dragons shooting up out of the ground.
Before he claimed that you had lasers shooting out of your eyes and grew 19 inch fangs and spit acid on him.
Before he says that, you need to do discovery and get that video.
I did give a couple of the tapes to the prosecuting attorney and he called me over and said that he enjoyed the tapes and told me that they wouldn't get his gun unless they prodded out of his cold dead hand.
Yeah, I know that after he told me to get out of the truck, and that's all he said when he came to my window, and the second thing he said was turn around, And at that time I asked him, what am I being arrested for?
And at that time he said, terroristic threatening.
And then later on when I told him, when I was in the car... I understand you had a discussion with him and you said that you said, well I haven't threatened you.
I know that when I first went to court there, and I've been driving around with a sign in my back window, which is Isaiah 520, which says, Woe unto those that perceive evil for good and good for evil, light for darkness, darkness for light, bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter.
And then it says after that, Woe unto those that are wise in the sight of their own eyes.
Fortress America, which is the thing they did on the Tech Channel about the cameras going up everywhere and about how we're losing our civil liberties because of this war on terrorism.
You know, I talk to locals, and I call other members of your family, and I talk to the newspaper and other people, and supposedly your state police are pretty rampant around there.
If you look at them wrong, they're going to go ahead and take you on down.
I'm about to go to Andy and Eric and Mildred and Ray and Bill before our big guest comes on.
And just briefly, in my film, 9-11, The Road to Tyranny, about five minutes of the two hour, two and a half hour film, there's a woman at a checkpoint.
And they say, we want to search your car, and she says no, so they jerk her out of the car, and then say she assaulted him, which she didn't, which she was later found not guilty of, and then they go, oh my gosh, we, you know, they found the pocket constitution, they found some material about the income tax, that, you know, this may be illegal!
Why, she's got videos in here!
Is this stuff legal?
I don't know if this is legal!
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Well, I mean, I'm hoping for the best because I think that they're having the new trial because of the final report by the Oklahoma Bombing Investigation Committee.
And all over the country, it was first, oh, just the football players and band members.
Now, this weekend, right after I read the article about everybody's going to have to breathalyzer, I hear, in San Marcos, all the children are going to have to drug test on a monthly basis.
Uh, the government, the federal government's involved, uh... I mean, look, it's everywhere!
Hey, what do you think of the situation with the governor in Rhode Island saying, I didn't read the martial law bill, I'm sorry, I'm going to change the law.
Well, September 10th, 2001, and I heard a rumor that basically they had a big roundtable before that day, Roger Ailes and all the neocons, and they were basically tipped off and they were told, you tell the truth, your careers are toast, you go along with the line, you're going to make millions.
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I was wondering what your definition of Zionist is.
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That's right, I'm not against... But you spoke of someone who was anti-zionist and you seemed to agree with them, so I just needed to know your definition of zionist.
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Before we go to our first guest, who I'm honored to have, well, our guest for this hour, I wanted to just remind you that Dr. David Kelly uh... was the head of the level four porton down bio weapons lab in wilshire england and he was then the head british weapons inspector who'd been pro war he then came back and leaked information that look i'm a hawk for this war but i'm not gonna lie saddam doesn't have weapons of mass destruction and tony blair misused my assessment
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He's Michael Shrimpton, and Michael Shrimpton has a long bio.
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And I want to thank Simon And I want to thank Rowena and I want to thank Paul Watson and all the folks that have been working on this story and for getting us this guest.
And again, he's Michael Shrimpton and a national security lawyer or barrister.
And he's written for major anti-terrorism journals.
He has given his expert advice to the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence for the U.S.
Senate.
And the bio goes on and on.
He's also been involved in a lot of prominent high-profile cases in England.
I came across that in my research on him.
And he's a really nice fellow.
During the break, I was talking to him.
I said, you know, I hope you don't end up in the woods like Dr. David Kelly.
And he said, well, no, by going public, you protect yourself.
And that's the truth.
For other government whistleblowers, telling the truth is what protects you.
If you covertly leak something, that's what's dangerous.
So, he protects himself by going on air, and obviously because of all of his sources, he's a great source for all of us.
And Michael, good to have you on the show with us.
Just for folks, Around the world who aren't very familiar with Dr. David Kelly.
Hard to believe people aren't.
Can you recap who he was, what happened to him, and then from your sources, you even know down to the specifics of how they killed him, and from your sources, who was behind the killing.
Yes, David Kelly was probably the most respected microbiologist in the United Kingdom.
Certainly one who specialized in weapons of mass destruction.
He was the head of our main WMD laboratory at Portmanteau and Wiltshire.
He was very involved in the dismantling, verification of the dismantling of the Soviet WMD programs after the end of the Cold War.
He spent some time inside the bad old USSR.
He was the senior British inspector on UNSCOM, the UN mission inside Iraq.
He spent some considerable time in Baghdad.
He was working very closely with our overseas intelligence service, MI6, or the Secret Intelligence Service, and he was a major, high-value British intelligence asset.
He was a good man.
Decorated, awarded the CMG, Commander of St.
Michael and St.
George, highly regarded and well liked too within the British intelligence community and also respected in the United States.
And then suddenly, Tony Blair smearing him in the press, and he ends up dead, and the witnesses, according to the London Times and their publications, saw four men in black uniforms standing around him.
They run off, and oh, it's a suicide.
Go over the whole controversy of... I mean, Dr. David Kelly was a hawk for the war, but he wasn't going to put out false intelligence.
Well yes, David Kelly briefed in a British BBC journalist called Andrew Gilligan and all suspect to another journalist off of the BBC television's Newsnight programme and he briefed in both journalists along the lines that the case for the WMD case for war with Iraq had been exaggerated.
There's a lot of dispute about exactly what was said and what wasn't said.
The BBC Today programme, which is the leading radio current affairs programme, led with a story from Andrew Gilligan, which didn't name David Kelly as Andrew's source.
Now, we know that David Kelly was, and my own intelligence sources confirmed that before the BBC itself confirmed it on Sunday the 20th of July.
David Kelly was outed in the media.
Big dispute as to who authorised his name to be given to the media.
And he was asked to appear before a committee in the House of Commons.
There was a lot of controversy about what the government had been told, how truthful a dossier that they had prepared on Iraqi weapons of mass destruction was.
And shortly after he gave evidence to the House of Commons, he was found dead on Friday 18th of July of last year.
He was found dead.
There is a dispute about exactly where he was found.
According to the official version of events, he was found dead in a copse or a wood at a place called Harrowdown Hill between the village where he lived and the River Thames.
But the forensic tents, it's noticeable, Alex, that the forensic tents that were set up by the local police force, Thames Valley Police, were actually set up in the field.
Why you would have someone killed in the woods and have the police tents over the scene of the crime set up in the field, no one has yet been able to explain to my satisfaction.
Now, the government were blamed for causing the death, but the way the government were criticised was this.
That they had caused his name to be leaked to the media, that had put him under intolerable pressure and he had allegedly committed suicide.
The initial media reports all went with suicide and the mainstream media in the UK is still reporting it as a suicide.
The government responded very quickly and brought in a law lord, Lord Hutton, who had previously been Lord Chief Justice of Northern Ireland and the Hutton Inquiry has very recently reported that Lord Hutton Didn't challenge the suicide verdict.
There was no cross-examination of witnesses before the Hutton Inquiry as to the cause of death.
It was assumed that it was suicide and the BBC were essentially blamed for poor reporting.
The government were let off the hook.
The Hutton Report, I'm sorry to say, is widely seen as a whitewash, and it's been rubbished.
A very senior British intelligence officer recently retired, a lieutenant colonel, Crispin Black, who was on the Defence Intelligence staff until 2002, basically described the report as a laughingstock, and I respectfully agree.
Yeah, I've seen major polls where over two-thirds of British people believe it's complete fraud.
I mean, obviously, Tony Blair hires one of his cronies to come in and say, oh, you didn't do anything wrong.
And then even that's a whitewash of a larger whitewash, because obviously, according to the medical reports, the coroner's report, the doctors that have looked at it, The suicide verdict, that's a fraud itself, and let's go into your sources and what really happened to Dr. David Kelly.
Absolutely, although I wouldn't be allowed to say that Tony Blair had hired a judge.
You understand that in England we don't hire judges.
The judge is on the state payroll anyway, and I wouldn't want to be thought of as suggesting that anybody had put a little extra funds Lord Hutton's way.
Now, on Saturday 19th of July, David was murdered on the 17th.
On Saturday the 19th, within 48 hours of the murder, I was contacted by a British intelligence officer who had told me he'd been murdered.
That didn't take it by surprise.
I was suspicious of the suicide theory from the word go.
Now that source told me he'd done some digging and discovered that, he didn't name names, but it discovered that it had been known about in Whitehall prior to the 17th of July that David Kelly was going to be taken down.
Now, normally with a suicide, Alex, you appreciate we don't like people knowing in advance.
If people know in advance of the death, that normally points away from suicide.
Now, a lot of work has been done since the murder, and there's been particularly a great deal of medical research.
It's absolutely clear that David was murdered.
The suicide theory just doesn't hold water at all.
The official version of events is that he took some Coproxamol tablets.
Now, Coproxamol is available in England only by prescription.
There is a problem with that because there is no evidence that David Kelly was ever prescribed Coproxamol.
Now, Coproxamol, I think, is available in the United States.
It's a combination of dextropropothene and paracetamol in a ratio of 1 to 10.
It's not a very powerful painkiller.
And the level of Coproxamol in the bloodstream, according to the official toxicology report, was about one-third, i.e.
not enough to kill him.
Now, 29 tablets were allegedly missing, or were missing, from a packet of Coproxamol found by the body.
The problem is that there is only one-fifth of a tablet in the stomach, and there's no evidence of substantial vomiting.
There is a little bit of vomit found on the body, but not much, and there's no analysis done of the material.
The stomach contents do not support the suggestion that he ingested 29 Caproxamol tablets.
Interestingly, the initial media reports, and when we look at staged suicides or political assassinations, I find it very useful to concentrate on the early media reports, because if there is a cover-up, usually the cover-up kicks in after 12, 24, 36 hours.
The first media reports are very often the most accurate.
Particularly if they're coming from local news organisations.
And the early media reports made no mention of a bottle of water.
The theory is, Alex, that he took these co-proximal tablets, having set out on a walk in the course of which he was going to commit suicide, and took with him a bottle of water to swallow the tablets.
Problem, no mention in early media reports of any bottle of water.
That detail was only added in after A group of concerned people in England, professionals, called the Kelly Group, had made the point, and it was already out into the open.
Now, the suicide version of it can't be right.
He was found with one wrist slashed, and the ulnar artery, which is the artery... Tell you what, we've got a break.
We're going to come back and go over the circumstantial evidence, and then your sources inside intelligence that say, hey, we got the word, he was about to be killed, and then who killed him?
We'll talk about that too.
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and he's a national security barrister in england He has given testimony and advice to the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence for the U.S.
Senate.
And he's obviously very knowledgeable about intelligence and the activities of intelligence agencies.
He has a lot of sources in MI5 and MI6.
You just heard him talk about one source inside British Intelligence that said they got word that Kelly was about to be killed by the government a week or so before he actually died.
I want to go back into that in more detail coming up here in a few minutes.
Mr. Shrimpton was then going over the material evidence of the murder, and you've gotten to the point of the slitting of the wrist.
The idea that he exsanguinated, that he died from hemorrhaging, he bled out from a cut to one wrist only, to the ulnar artery is just nonsense, Alex.
Firstly, the artery that was cut was the ulnar artery, which is more difficult to reach.
It's on the little finger side of the hand.
It's deeper than the radial artery.
Why go for an artery deep in the wrist when you can slit an artery much closer to the surface of the skin?
That's the first problem.
Second problem, he, according to the autopsy report, he severed or transected the artery But once you transect an artery, we have something called vasoconstriction.
The artery retracts and that promotes clotting.
It's very difficult to bleed out if you sever one artery only.
One doctor went around promoting the official version of Vents and attacked these doctors in the Guardian newspaper in England and talked about slashing wrists.
Well, David Kelly on the official version of Vents didn't slash his wrists, plural.
He slashed one wrist only.
It's highly unusual.
Firstly, wrist slashing is not an effective method of committing suicide.
One of the reasons people do it in a bath of hot water is that it keeps the temperature high.
Yeah, if you're out in the open, if you're not keeping the temperature high, the wrists, the arteries will not stay dilated.
It is very difficult indeed to bleed out in the open, even if you split both wrists.
Splitting one wrist only, much less blood loss and we have conflicting accounts of the amount of blood found by the body.
The most reliable eyewitnesses in my judgment are probably the paramedics who found him and They talk about comparatively little blood loss.
There is no solid evidence that a lot of blood had left the body.
There were no adequate measurements of the amount of blood left in the major vessels in the heart and so on.
Well, in my judgment, based on conversations with sources and with medical experts, and a great deal of work has been done over this since the murder, he was probably murdered by a combination of an injection, not through tablets, but an intravenous injection of dextropropoxythene and paracetamol, the constituents of coproxamol, and a muscle relaxant called succinylcholine.
Succinylcholine is a favourite method of assassinating people.
It's used by intelligence agencies, particularly the French DGSE.
Succinylcholine, although it's used therapeutically for treating, facilitating intubation and so on, can be lethal.
And in combination with the constituents of coproxamol, 30mg would probably have been a lethal dose.
The problem for someone investigating an assassination by succinylcholine is that it metabolizes even after death.
And you only pick up the metabolites.
In other words, it's one of those drugs that leaves no trace, unless you have a very expert pathologist who really knows what he or she is doing.
And it's fairly clear that the slash to the wrist was done to disguise the puncture wound.
There's no puncture wound, but of course the slash to the wrist would have disguised it.
Now, the palmar face, or the palmar face of the wrist, effectively the inside face of the wrist, is a very popular method.
You know, kinesiologists would use it to inject.
It's quite realistic to suppose that David Kelley was injected in the wrist with the muscle relaxant and the dextrofiproxafene and the... Tell you what, we've got a break again.
We'll come back and get into your sources and take some calls.
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To bring the British people under the dominance of the unelected, unaccountable European Union, whether they like it or not.
He's been promised the EU headship under a new, expanded, empowered EU, if he can get Britain into it.
He lied about the weapons of mass destruction.
It's clear that if Tony Blair was to have been exposed, that would certainly hurt those in Europe that want to get rid of British sovereignty.
And talking to Michael Shrimpton, our guest, our intelligence expert, who has his sources over there in England, talking to you earlier before the show, you talked about your sources, the evidence you have that It looks like that it was elements of British intelligence or of the government using French intelligence to go and do their dirty work, which by the way is a standard operation.
If intelligence agencies are getting rid of some of their own people, they will generally use a sister agency in a sister country.
I know this is very delicate, Michael, but can you go over what you talked to me off-air about?
Firstly, I should make it clear, I have absolutely no indication that anybody in either of the British intelligence agencies, MI5, the Security Service, or MI6, the Secret Intelligence Service, is being involved.
On the contrary, my sources are telling me that both services are extremely unhappy.
Now, the indications are, and you understand I'm being cautious aren't I, There are indications pointing towards an involvement by the French External Intelligence Agency, the DGSE, or Direction Générale de la Sécurité Exterieure.
No, again, I've got to be obviously careful on air, but the indications are that the tasking for the assassination came from within the UK.
But I can't name any individual official or minister.
The taskings generated in the UK went to Paris, was then okayed in Paris, and on the information available to me, the operational agency for this assassination was DGSE.
Now, there are also indications, and I'm, again, obviously Alex, you appreciate I'm expressing myself with caution here, There are indications that DGSE, in order to false flag the assassination should their team be discovered, used Iraqi intelligence assets from the Iraqi Muqabirat Agency that were available in Damascus after the fall of Baghdad.
And I have one source suggesting that an Iraqi team That's today, an ex-Muqabirat team recruited in Damascus with the assistance of the Syrian intelligence operation, also the Muqabirat, were flown into Corsica in the seven days prior to the assassination of David Kelly.
Now the standard French practice when they carry out assassinations is to take their own team out and I am very doubtful that any of the people involved directly in the assassination of David Kelly are still alive.
It would be highly unusual for the French to permit anyone involved in the assassination for them to Well, we've seen this in the past.
You've had the big controversy that BBC's reported on about British intelligence using Al-Qaeda individuals to try to kill Muammar Gaddafi.
I mean, this is a classic deal.
Of course, the Iraqis were allies during the 80s, and so a lot of these guys were trained in the US, trained in England, trained in France, and then bringing these assets back in.
I mean, wouldn't these Iraqis know that they were doing this hit, that they were going to be in deep trouble afterwards, or were they told, you don't have a choice?
Well, by the way, my webmaster, Paul Watson, has talked to a major British news reporter who has talked directly to British intelligence, and they said months ago, I'm talking six months ago, the same thing that you just said here.
Something you think is independent confirmation may turn out to be... No, I understand, but I mean clearly from the circumstantial, from the material evidence, you've got murder, you've got a cover-up, you've got a spin, you've got a motive.
You've got him telling the US doctor, his colleague, if I don't shut up, I'm going to be found dead in the woods, they're going to kill me.
I mean, this is all public now.
We have him saying, they're going to kill me and put me in the woods.
You said that you've talked to intelligence people who said, yeah, they knew that Kelly was about to get it before he even died.
Well, you have an impeccable record, and you've been involved in a lot of high-profile cases.
You've testified before the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence for our Senate here, and you write for major intelligence journals.
You've certainly impressed me, Mr. Shrimpton, because I study this stuff continually, and you're just massively knowledgeable, more knowledgeable in many areas than I am.
Tony Blair is the most high-profile politician in the UK committed to destroying the national currency.
And the French very much want Blair to remain in office for geopolitical reasons, and we've just had a very unusual summit between Blair, Chirac, and the German Chancellor Schroeder.
I have to be very cautious.
I'm not naming Tony Blair as the person who generated the tasking for the assassination.
Indeed, I am quite comfortable that it wasn't Tony Blair who put the tasking into Paris.
Now, question marks, what did he know, and when did he know it, that there are You know, I can't be so confident.
I mean, he takes his orders... Like anyone who says we should be in the European Union, you take your orders from Brussels, because that's what the government from Brussels involves.
You're right, incidentally, on the false flagging.
I'm often called upon, formally or informally, usually informally, to deconstruct assassinations, to look at a particular assassination and try and work out what's happened.
Basically, in counter-intelligence work, we would normally recognise eight methods of trying to disguise an assassination.
The first method is you would try and blame it on your political opponents.
That was done in Sweden recently with the assassination of Anna Lindh, the very nice Swedish Foreign Minister.
An attempt was made to blame that on opponents of Sweden joining the Europe.
You can blame it on a terrorist organisation.
That was done particularly with the IRA in the attempted assassination of Margaret Thatcher.
The assassination of the war hero Airey Neve, a Conservative MP, was blamed on the Irish National Liberation Army.
The terrorist organisation might carry out the assassination, but in almost every case, the terrorist organisation is working for a government.
A third method of disguising assassinations, Alex, in my experience, is to false flag them.
Where it's blamed on another agency.
Now there are elements of false flagging in the Kelly assassination, because had the team which carried out the assassination been discovered, clearly it could have been false flagged via Baghdad and, you know, we'd have had three Iraqis in Oxfordshire, assuming it was Iraqis for the sake of argument, and obviously blame would then go to Baghdad and Paris would be off the hook.
The Iranians tried that quite successfully with the attempted assassination of the Pope.
back in the early 1980s. Then you have the lone gunman theory. Now you guys are very familiar with that because
you'll recall that somebody tried to blame Lee Harvey Oswald for the assassination of President John L. Kennedy.
An amusing suggestion to those of us who know a little bit more about that assassination than is in the public domain.
We've had a lone gunman, a classic example of a lone gunman assassination theory in Europe, with the assassination of
the Dutch politician Pim Fortuyn, which was blamed on a lone gunman.
and and
An explanation which doesn't carry much weight with me, since in the photographs of the assassin that I saw, there was what appeared to me to be a very thin wire leading up to an earpiece in his right ear, and normally Alex lone gunmen don't run around with radios and earpieces.
Well, there are certainly those, certainly respected commentators, who would say that the Rabin assassination was definitely not down to a lone gunman.
Then you've got illness.
Now, this is fairly rare.
It's difficult to fake an illness.
He was down in the case of a British politician, Hugh Gaitskell, who was opposed to Britain joining the European Economic Community, and he came down with a tropical disease in Moscow in the middle of winter, generally speaking.
He was spotted at the time as an assassination, but MI5, although they brought in Porton Down, where David Kelly worked, incidentally, Port and Dan were brought in, but Port and Dan couldn't work out how the disease which got Hugh Gaitskell, which is lupus disseminata, it's a very nasty disease indeed, it attacks the organs very similar to Ebola, how this tropical disease had found its way to Moscow, they couldn't work out how, what the agent was for getting the lupus into Hugh Gaitskell.
We now know it was probably aerosol, but at the time that technology wasn't known about in England.
Then you've got accident, and there are a couple of interesting political assassinations in Zimbabwe of rape Road accidents, which I would put a question mark against.
It's less common to try and stage accidents, but it's not unknown.
A friend of mine was nearly taken out in Argentina a few years ago in what looked to me to be a slightly dubious... Well, what about Princess Diana?
We've been having all these microbiologists in government weapons programs walking down the street of the university and a van jumps the rail, chases them, runs them over, then backs back over them, drives back over them, and the police just go, an accident, a hit and run.
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And then the final method is the one tried in the case of David Kelly, that you try and make the murder look like suicide, But it's very difficult.
In this case, the attempt to slash the wrist was pointless, because he was already dead, and there's not enough blood.
None of the witnesses, in my judgment, reports enough blood consistent with him bleeding out.
And the medical experts that we've talked to, and that have been insisting on this, the medical experts generally reckon that he would be looking for five pints, that's English pints, of blood.
There's nothing I've seen that persuades me that more than a pint was lost and that's about consistent with what you'd expect from transecting one ulnar artery, completely transecting it.
It then retracts clots and you get surprisingly little bleeding from cutting your ulnar artery.
And how the media tries to spin this, but why do you think the media have been so willing to go along with the official government story that it's a suicide?
The mainstream media in the UK are largely committed to UK membership of the European Union, and my guess is that most of the newspapers in the UK would be worried about the political consequences of going public with any story suggesting David Kelly was assassinated.
And then you've got technical competence.
There aren't that many good investigative journalists in the UK, and it's not that difficult to get the mainstream media to buy an official version of events.
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Going back to our guest, Michael Shrimpton, national security lawyer, barrister in England.
Michael?
Yeah?
Continuing with what we were discussing and just briefly recapping, you have a source Who in intelligence talked to his other sources and it was widely known in intelligence that there was an order to get rid of Kelly even before he died.
My source learnt after the assassination that others in Whitehall were aware of the assassination in advance.
Yes.
And that source had spoken to, obviously he was a friend of David Kelly's, knew him well, had worked with him, and clearly once his friend was found dead in a wood, made investigations, and when he made investigations, he discovered that this assassination was known about in advance.
And he told, and this was in the Associated Press, BBC, you name it, he told an American doctor who was on the team with him in Iraq, he said, if I don't shut up about this, I'm going to end up dead in the woods.
Yeah, there was also an interesting conversation with David Brucher, who was formerly a British ambassador in Prague in the Czech Republic, along similar lines.
And David Brucher, I think, was a witness, in fact, to that inquiry.
David Kelly worked... I never had the privilege of meeting him.
I'd love to have met him.
My friend certainly worked with him and knew him.
David worked very closely with the United States intelligence and worked very closely with Sergeant Mike Pedersen in particular, but I get the impression he was very highly thought of in the U.S.
Was this done by the pro-EU crowd, the globalists I would call them, to put out a chilling effect into everybody in intelligence to keep your mouths shut?
It's tolerably clear, one can't be certain, tolerably clear that he was taken out in order to prevent him talking.
Now, what is unclear is whether he was taken out because there was concern he was about to acquire intelligence that might be highly damaging, or taken out because he had acquired it and was about to talk to the media.
We know there was concern about the extent of his media contacts.
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Assassination is a very... I mean, I'm opposed to assassinations in principle, one of the reasons why I'm outraged by David Kelly's assassination.
Assassination is a double-edged sword, and I think had we gone in and taken out Saddam Hussein, that would have rebounded on both Britain and America very quickly.
So I think the call not to assassinate him was That was probably well made.
It's also more difficult to assassinate politicians like Saddam Hussein than first appears.
You remember the CIA's farcical efforts to try and get rid of Fidel Castro.
They had to go for several years and they didn't get anywhere close to assassinating him with exploding cigars and what have you.
I would say the call not to take Saddam Hussein out was right.
The danger with assassinating somebody like Saddam Hussein, you build up inside Iraq popular support for his regime.
Yeah, you turn him into a martyr and also it'll cause a revolution even before you get there and then you won't control kind of the way the balls break.
As more and more doctors and people come forward, and as you come forward and say it's clear that he was murdered, I mean, where does all this go for Tony Blair?
Well, there are indications that he may be preparing to resign.
He's denied officially over the weekend that he's planning to resign, which is an indication that he is.
Never believe anything until it's officially denied.
A number of key advisors have bailed out.
Alastair Campbell, another key advisor, Philip Gould, has just been offered a peerage, which is a form of retirement we have in England that you don't have in the United States.
Neville Chamberlain, I think that without being disrespectful to my Prime Minister on the air, I think it's a close call between Tony Blair and Neville Chamberlain.
You could have ten different politicians and economists and military strategists sit around a table and come up with ten different answers as to whether Neville Chamberlain surrendered more of Europe than Tony Blair, and whether Tony Blair surrendered more to France and Germany than Neville Chamberlain did.
We'll come right back and we'll go to Lenny Bloom, who's been on this story, and we'll also talk to David in Texas and a few other callers for our guests, and we'll get to Bob and Ron and others and a bunch of other key news items.
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Just an absolutely amazing and riveting interview of the last hour and eight minutes with our guest, a national security barrister, a lawyer, uh... who has uh...
you know consulted uh... with the senate select committee on intelligence here in
the u s and and given speeches and uh... consulted around the world and
our rights were major terrorism journals going over well just a lot of uh... interesting facts for us like
usually you've got some type of terrorist assassination
terrorist killing people are usually a government behind amusing them as a go
Oh, we've discovered that here in our research too, and going over the evidence of how Dr. David Kelly was killed, and the elements inside governments that did it, and why.
Let's take a few calls.
We'll go to David and Ian and a few others here in a few minutes.
But right now, let's go to Lenny Bloom, who's been a guest on this show before and has a website, cloakedanddagger.com.
I know last week they got some rumblings of this story and put it out.
And Lenny, what's on your mind?
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Thanks for having me back, Alex.
You're doing a tremendous yeoman service job.
You know, the pilots who fly these assassination teams around the world don't have a public responsibility to tell the truth, or tell people.
But the media has a core responsibility.
There's so many people involved that I've known and been a part of as a spy pilot over the years.
This thing with Dr. Kelly is something that's interesting.
Ever since the Duke of Edinburgh said he wanted to become a deadly virus and come back and be reincarnated, we have kept the biochemical doctors deathless for good reason.
The Duke doesn't want to be suspected or blamed for his actions.
It's really interesting and clear what's going on here.
Are you familiar, sir, that there's been all over the Western world, Australia, Russia, Western Europe, England, the U.S., top bioweapons scientists being murdered?
And Kelly, just so happen to be one more on that list.
I flew everything from F-18s to F-14s to Cessna 172s to Bell 206s and my student became Air Force One helicopter for ten years and he's a three-star general.
Okay, I don't understand exactly what you're saying.
Boil it down for us.
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Well, the promotion of, you know, Dying for Allah is a shown thing on TV in Tel Aviv, and the media doesn't really focus on that here in the United States.
I'm wondering what your view is on that, and do you see that in Europe?
Well, let me answer his question as a courtesy to him.
I'm not very impressed with media coverage of the Middle East generally.
I do subscribe to a very interesting service called Memory, the Middle East Media Research Institute, and some of the stuff they come up with on what is broadcast on mainstream media in Egypt and Saudi Arabia concerning Israel is just shocking.
It's like the 1930s all over again.
Very, very disturbing stuff.
I'm not very impressed with mainstream coverage of the Middle East and that's partly why I went to Israel in June, a little fact-finding tour.
Your southern border is not particularly well protected with respect to the guys and girls who are down there protecting it, but they need more resources.
I was very impressed meeting and talking with, you know, from soldiers up to generals.
I think the IDF are doing a good job.
I think the Israelis know far more about counter-terrorism than we do in Britain or in the United States.
My general line with Israel is I think we in the West, the rest of the West, Israel is part of the West, we need to get off the Israelis' back and let them go and do the job.
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I wanted to ask your guest, I wanted to explore the occultic implications of David Kelly's death.
And by illustration, I'm going to refer to a case that he may be familiar with, Air Marshal Sir Peter Horsley.
They tried to take him out like Diana with rigged brakes on his BMW in the mid-80s, just between Amesbury Circle and Stonehenge, about 660 yards.
Um, if you can believe it, into his drive west along the motorway.
There was that occultic association.
And what I'm wondering is because David Kelly, you reported, probably died on July 17th, which is right in the middle of that high holiday they celebrate at Bohemian Grove, Alex.
A lot of great people out there, and we've obviously got to have you back on because you're a very intelligent, very informative person, because there's not many people that I get on the show who end up knowing more about intelligence matters, because I study it pretty much perpetually, and you've brought out some very important information, and I really want to thank you for coming on the show, Mr. Shrimpton.
And for those that just joined us, again, Michael Shrimpton, a national intelligence lawyer or barrister in England, and he writes for major intelligence journals and has consulted around the world on intelligence matters, and he was coming on exposing the murder of Dr. David Kelly.
Do you think those that were responsible will ever be brought to justice, sir?
I think those immediately responsible are already dead.
My guess is they were taken out within 24-48 hours of the assassination.
I suspect those involved in tasking the assassination will be dealt with informally and will be given valuable guidance.
And the public will not get to know about it.
And my guess is that the coroner, Nick Gardner, Thank you.
to hold an inquest will not hold an inquest. That means no jury will ever inquire into
the reasons for David's death.
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Yeah, I've decided that I'm going to go down to the registrar and get a, what do you call that, a ballot to get the vote off of the machines.
You've got to start a recall petition to get rid of those things.
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Well, I'm going to do an absentee ballot right away because I know that if she gets flooded with those kind of absentee ballots, they're going to say, why is no one using these machines?
Maybe they'll take a second look at the money that it's going to cost them, which is the only way to get their attention.
And in the future, I mean, it's going to be really funny watching them act like there's an election.
Or will these candidates really believe they're in an election?
We're gonna have to have candidates run as like secret agents locally who act like they're globalists and secretly get in and, you know, try to... We'll have to, like, covertly have, you know, I guess our own secret society to get people elected.
I've always been working, and I guess my body said, no, you're gonna take a rest.
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I'm taking two more calls and we're doing an ultra-massive news blitz.
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Pat, good to hear from you.
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Well, that's all right.
I just had two things to say.
I went to a meeting with Mike Pence and I went to Earlham College for a meeting about what's going on in the global situation.
And I asked Mike again about the Patriot Act 1 and 2, and the Victory Act 1 and 2, and I asked him to elaborate on 802, and... This is your Congressman?
Yeah, him.
And he said he helped write the whole Patriot Act, and he couldn't elaborate on 802, and he said there was no Patriot Act No. 2.
Yeah, we have a detailed analysis of Patriot Act I and II on InfoWars.com, and then we have the Associated Press article covering the passage of Patriot Act II in December of last year, and we have Ron Paul's written analysis of it on the site as well.
So I don't know what this guy's talking about.
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Okay.
We also went to a meeting over at Earlham College, where it's the Quaker College, and the subject was globalism, and a lot of them have seen your videos, and they're trying to start some grassroots movement around here.
But after I got some literature and came home, I realized on the literature it says, Quaker UN Office.
Look, there's a lot of people involved with the Quakers who are well-meaning, nice folks, aren't evil, but in the 60s it got taken over by the Communists.
I've been to Quaker meetings to protest them.
Open borders, gun control, U.N.
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Oh yeah, the Quakers will talk about the New World Order and the big bankers and how it's the evil corporations, but their answer is the U.N.
publicly founded by the corporations!
So again, it's like the phony conservatives are on the air talking about the evil Democrats, but oh, the conservatives are good.
Then the Quakers will talk about the evil Republicans, oh, but the liberals are good.
Sounds like we're all about to have our heads explode here.
Sorry.
Send me the video or send me a clip in an mp3 format to tipsandinfowars.com.
We can shoot it up to the network in Minnesota.
We can play stuff like that on air.
We do that quite a bit, but it really sounds bad when it's When it's like that, I'm sorry, it was horrible.
And I'm not saying Ralph Nader's evil, but his solutions are bad.
Okay, there's corrupt criminal corporations, I agree.
But you don't then get rid of the free market because there's some criminals abusing it.
The criminals are using government to selectively create a crony capitalism where the corporations use the government as their enforcer.
You don't create a bigger government and defeat them.
It's like if somebody's beating you over the head with a club and you go, I'm going to stop them.
I'm going to give them an even bigger club.
That's going to handle this.
And that's what leftists can't figure out.
And then of course the leftists are wrong on the social issues too.
And then the neocons are wrong on almost everything and think they're conservative.
Okay, you know what?
I'm going to cover news now in the last 20-something minutes we've got left here.
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Let me just blitz through the news.
I said I'd read this editorial because it's so good and it says it all.
Anti-Semitism Charges Causing More Damage Than Film Could by Rabbi Daniel Lappin.
And it says, two weeks before the opening of Mel Gibson's The Passion of the Christ, online ticket merchants reported that up to half of their total sales were for the film.
One Dallas Multiplex has reserved all 20 of its screens for The Passion.
I am neither a prophet nor a movie critic.
I am merely an orthodox rabbi.
This is from the Daily News, by the way.
I am merely an orthodox rabbi using ancient Jewish wisdom to make three predictions about the movie.
One, Mel Gibson and Icon Productions will make a great deal of money.
Those distributors who surrendered to pressure from Jewish organizations and passed on the passion will be kicking themselves while New Market Films will laugh all the way to the bank.
Two, The Passion will become famous as the most serious and substantive biblical movie ever made.
It will be one of the most talked about entertainment events in history.
My third prediction is that the faith of millions of Christians will become more fervent as the passion uplifts and inspires them.
The passion will propel vast numbers of unreligious Americans to embrace Christianity.
The movie will one day be seen as a harbinger of America's third great religious reawakening.
Those Jewish organizations that have squandered both time and money Protesting the Passion, ostensibly, in order to prevent pogroms in Pittsburgh, can hardly be proud of their performance.
They failed at everything they attempted.
They were hoping to ruin Gibson, rather than enrich him.
They were hoping to suppress the Passion, rather than promote it.
Finally, they were hoping to help Jews, rather than harm them.
But by selectively unleashing their fury only on wholesale entertainment that depicts Christianity in a positive light, these groups have triggered anger, hurt, and resentment.
Hosting a radio show and speaking before many audiences nationwide, I enjoy extensive communication with Christian America.
And what I hear is troubling.
Fearful and attracting the ire of Jewish groups that are so quick to hurl the anti-Semite epithet, some Christians are reluctant to speak out, although one can bludgeon resentful people into silence behind closed doors, emotions continue to simmer.
I consider it crucially important for Christians to know that not all Jews are in agreement with their self-appointed spokesman.
Most American Jews experience warm and gracious interactions each day with their Christian fellow citizens and would feel awkward trying to explain why so many Jewish organizations seem focused on an agenda hostile to Judeo-Christian values.
And it goes on and on and I couldn't say it any better.
And that's what I said last week.
I said no one would have seen this movie and thought, man, Jews are bad.
I mean, I grew up, folks, watching movies about Jesus, reading the Bible, and never thought, oh, Jews are bad.
I mean, this was the corrupt government of the Jews and the Romans killing somebody who was speaking out against their evil.
We know governments are evil.
We know man's evil.
So by the ADL running out and doing this and saying this, All they've done is made people think, hmm, what's going on?
And the rabbi goes on to say that.
And, uh, that's what I said last week.
And, uh, you know, look, I have Jewish friends, and, uh, They're upset about this.
I mean, they can't stand the ADL.
The ADL will go after a Jewish group of their pro-gun, folks.
I mean, it's just... It's time for Americans to stand up to the ADL, as well as the Southern Poverty Law Center, but they're not as powerful as the ADL, and to tell them to stop it.
Because they've totally discredited Jews when they try to stand up against something that is anti-Semitic.
Because there is a place for standing up against anti-Semitism.
There needs to be organizations that do that.
I mean, I stand up against racist Mexicans and blacks and white supremacists, but I don't have to be Jewish to do it!
And so, we need to understand here that this rabbi is correct, and it's time to stop letting the ADL be the spokesman for Jews.
It's real simple.
And on Hutton Gibson, good friend of mine, good people, I've talked to him many times off-air, he loves the Jewish people, he does not dislike Jews, everything you hear is taken out of context, He does not think 6 million Jews died.
And he believes Masons are the ones that are now in control of Judaism.
Uh, and uh, and they seem to be in control of everything for that matter.
And so they take that out of context and try to make him look like he's anti-semitic again, and it's just gonna backfire.
And I got a call from MSNBC, a call from CNN, and I just told my wife when she said they were on the phone, I just said, look, we're not doing the interviews because I'm not gonna sit here and add fuel to this fire.
So, and you know, I got Hutton's number as he travels around the country visiting family.
I don't think I'm going to call him and tell him, oh, Hutton, I didn't go on national TV and talk about you.
But perhaps Pastor Bush can tell him that, that I told MSNBC and others that I didn't want to talk to him.
But it's just horrible.
They've taken something wholesome like the Passion and tried to make it dirty.
And, you know, even if Hutton Gibson, you know, was bad, which he's not, he's a good guy.
Still, by going and focusing on him, they try to make it something nasty and bad, and it causes division.
And I've said it over and over again.
Multiculturalism does that.
It actually creates racism.
You can prove that.
Okay, prepare yourself for a news blitz.
Here, I spent too much time on this, but the Rabbi's words needed to be heard.
I agree with him.
House votes for ignition interlocks on every vehicle.
This is out of the Associated Press, Santa Fe, New Mexico.
I told you this five years ago.
You're all going to blow in the breathalyzer to start your cars.
And then it's going to be a retina scanner because, oh, you can have your kids or your wife blow for you.
This is the federal plan.
The House has approved a measure that would require ignition interlocks on every vehicle sold in New Mexico.
It would require the devices on new vehicles by 2008, and on used vehicles on sale by 2009.
And everyone will have to blow to start their car.
I mean, Big Brother on steroids?
Come on.
Good news, Carcieri pulls bill on Homeland Security.
This is out of the Providence Journal on Infowars.com and PrisonPlanet.com.
Do you remember the last Wednesday we read the Governor's bill where it said, criticize the government, you're arrested as a terrorist, fly anything but the American flag, you're arrested as a terrorist?
Total government secrecy.
We're all terrorists now.
The World War I laws.
You talk about Nazi Germany.
Well, the governor says, I never read the bill.
I didn't know it.
I'm sorry.
I apologize.
But I am going to try to pass another bill.
And by the way, he went to the governor's conference with Governor Ridge and got this legislation.
So that shows you what Ridge is up to.
And it says a bunch of states have passed it.
Good news, though.
We got the word, and we got radio stations up in that neck of the woods.
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And so we got it stopped, thanks to you, so good job.
But, boy, you talk about nightmare stuff.
Arnold wants to be your president.
We'll talk about a real live Nazi that the ADL loves.
Hadn't found a Nazi they don't love, boy, I tell ya.
We'll talk about this monster when we get back.
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New York Times reports, court upholds judge's right to compel medication.
The state's highest court on Tuesday upheld the constitutionality of law that gives judges authority to force mentally ill people to comply with treatment, but we've actually read the legislation and what the court ruled on.
That's not the case.
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How do you have 1,000 agents were dismissed for serious misconduct And over 16 years, it's only 90 years.
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