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Coming up here in about ten minutes, Texas Church tries guns for roses on Valentine's from ABC News.
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Coming up here in just a few minutes, Texas Church tries Guns for Roses on Valentine's.
Turn your guns in.
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Texas Church tries guns for roses on Valentine's Day.
I've seen articles where Catholic churches, Protestant churches, you name it, have these gun buyback or turn your gun in events they put on United Nations days.
Here in Austin, local Baptist Church does and tells you to turn your guns in.
A church in Dallas, Texas wants people to show their love by giving up their guns this Valentine's Day, which they did.
The First Presbyterian Church in Dallas is sponsoring a program for people to turn in their guns to mark the celebration of love.
The sponsors will be given $50 for each gun and would be glad if the cash was used to purchase candy or flowers for Valentine's Day.
Quote, we're not trying to disarm Cupid of his bow and arrow, but provide another meaningful opportunity for individuals to show their affection for their families by making their homes safe this Valentine's Day, said church pastor Bruce Buchanan.
The church has sponsored gun buybacks before, but pastor Buchanan said he has moved the program to Valentine's Day because most of the people who turned in guns had families and they did not want the guns in the homes.
The church is aiming to buy back 150 guns, and to tell us how this went is Pastor Bruce Buchanan.
Well, in the Presbyterian Church USA there has been for about almost 20 years now a peacemaking program in the church that's observed on the first Sunday in October.
And churches are encouraged to be involved in local peacemaking efforts, and for many churches that involves, say, supporting a domestic violence shelter or some other initiative in the community that helps in that general area.
Here in this church, about three years ago, one of our church members suggested that we use part of that offering to sponsor a buyback, and that's what started it.
And ever since then, funds from people in the community have come in.
It doesn't come from church funds to support the program and to keep it going.
Pastor, we appreciate you coming on, but let me just be up front with you.
Number one, when one of the disciples at the Garden of Gethsemane cut the ear off the Roman, Christ put it back on and said, next time sell your cloak and buy swords.
Well, we did not force anyone to come and turn in their handgun or their rifle.
And there are people who are involved in this program and have been involved in the program from the beginning who are strong supporters of the Second Amendment.
That strongly support the Second Amendment and are gun enthusiasts themselves.
In fact, they are gun experts.
Who disables the weapons when they're turned in is a gun enthusiast.
And so by far we have collected in all those seven events about 300 handguns and rifles.
And my experience has been that many of them come from women, which was a surprise.
uh... and uh... we've asked uh... just out of curiosity people frequently just volunteer where they've got it and uh... uh... many of them the guns were a gift from uh... a parent or a boyfriend concerned for their safety and you know that's understandable.
Look, I read your quotes here from ABC News And what I get from reading the article is people turn their guns in because they've got families and they think they're dangerous in the house and the last line here is
The Valentine's Day celebration will be overseen by armed police.
And they use these images on the news, and I've got the gun control group's own documents on this, to acclimate us to the image of people lining up, turning their guns in, and everywhere where they've had gun registration and gun buybacks in other parts of the world, it then turns into a mandatory thing.
So aren't you concerned?
You're part of a conditioning process, that guns are bad here, turn them in.
You know, I've got my Bible here on the bookshelf next to me, and I've sat through a lot of Sunday School and enjoyed it, but I do not know the particular verse.
I know 50 people can call in and give us the verse.
In fact, will somebody please call in and give us the chapter and verse?
Which gospel is it in?
Luke 2236.
Okay, I'm told we're getting a bunch of calls telling us Luke 2236.
Will somebody call in and please read Luke 2236?
Because I can't leave the microphone and go to the other wall and dig my Bible out and go to Luke 2236.
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And you know what?
I am angry because these gun buybacks are going on all over the country.
I must have seen 50 different police department news articles about them where they have these gun buybacks and take the guns and melt them down and make an image of a gun tied in a knot with a barrel tied in a knot and put that out front the church or put it out front the police station.
It's a culture of hating guns which is the only thing right now holding back the New World Order from absolutely eating our lunch.
I tell you, just ridiculous!
And did you hear that?
The Presbyterian Church Official policy is doing this.
Everybody should leave the Presbyterian Church.
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Baptist Church right here in Austin has U.N.
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Now there's a follow-up verse two, uh, verses later, but the thing that came to my mind fifteen years ago is, is why did Jesus tell disciples to purchase a, a sword?
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And exactly, right here in verse 37, next verse, for I say unto you that this that is written must be accomplished in me, And he was reckoned among the transgressors, for the things concerning me have an end.
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For those that just joined us, about 15 minutes ago, I had this so-called pastor on the show, Bruce Buchanan, of the First Presbyterian Church in Dallas.
That's a big church, by the way, folks.
I'm from Dallas.
And they've had seven gun buybacks and had hundreds and hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of guns turned in.
They just had another one on Valentine's Day.
And I mentioned Luke 22-36 where Christ said, you know, if you don't have money, sell your cloak and buy a sword.
And he said, no, that doesn't exist.
I don't know about that.
When that's one of the most famous, well-known verses out of the New Testament.
But the point here is, is I have had listeners email me and send me news clippings and I have seen hundreds and hundreds and hundreds and hundreds and hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of news articles of churches, Baptist, Catholic, you name it, having gun buybacks.
A listener sent me a news article a few years ago out of the Chicago Tribune where one of the big Catholic churches up in Chicago said you shouldn't own guns, turn all your guns in, guns should be banned.
One of the big Baptist churches here in Austin, every October 24th on UN Day, has a gun buyback and has a big UN meeting.
They're equating love and Christianity with turning your guns in.
And it's a big deal.
I know all the callers now want to talk about this and that's fine.
Coming up, some good news.
Again, State House in South Dakota passes a ban outlawing abortion.
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But they haven't... Look, get a jury trial.
Just go, my goodness, I just gave the guy a History Channel show and some stuff.
A listener, and I actually got the news article on this, a listener in Florida every day was putting multiple copies on the windshields, like people put flyers on my car every week, usually a restaurant or a quick lube for one of those gas station ads.
And they called the bomb squad out because it was a video.
They thought it was a bomb.
It wasn't a bomb.
He heard it on the news.
He called them and went in and said, I just gave you a video.
Uh, well, I told him that, um, after he had already told me that I was being locked up for terroristic threatening, um, he, I was in the car and I told him, I said, well, you know, when a father sees something in the future that may be a threat to his children, Then he should take a course to try to protect them.
Well, this jerk turned around and said that I had threatened his family and children.
No, no, he said because he's trying to twist this around and say that I He said that I had threatened his children over that.
Because I said, well, when a father sees something in the future that might be, you know, detrimental to their children, he could take a course to try to protect them.
Well, he seems to think that there's some constitutional issue here that, you know, the First Amendment... Well, but, I mean, you never... Okay, where are you?
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And so, that is so important that he has witnesses to that.
If his lawyer doesn't know that that is totally insane, and has prejudiced the judge, then I don't know what does.
You've got to have witnesses to that.
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We need to give out your contact info for people.
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I need you to fax me all the documents so I know this is a real story, though I believe you.
This is so scary, and we're talking to Kelly Rushing, who gave a police officer some videos, including C-SPAN and Discovery, or History Channel, and the judge said you're guilty of giving a police officer an anti-government, anti-police video, which isn't.
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This is the first case of this I've heard of.
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As I have done when Delta Force was in Austin a few years ago, I was down there.
You will see, at the time, four or five of my videos on the shelf.
And they know about the New World Order.
You will also saw the Oklahoma City bombing video there, so they obviously have watched that and know who really carried that out.
And all over the country, thousands and thousands of listeners have gotten the videos and made thousands of copies, in many cases, dozens in other cases, and gotten them out to people.
They've aired on national television.
They've been put on access TV stations around the country.
And a listener gives a cop, a state police officer in Kentucky, some of my videos, including a video of some C-SPAN and History Channel stuff, and he's arrested, and they say it's a threat.
He pulls him out of the car, says, you threatened my family.
The guy says, what do you mean?
I gave you some videos.
And the guy says, you threatened my family and now he's being charged.
And the judge says, in Fredonia, Kentucky, that hey boy, you're guilty of giving a police officer an anti-government, anti-police video.
And then they go ahead with charging him.
And don't think he won't go to jail.
Now most police aren't like this, but in a lot of areas they are.
But certainly they've been under federal training.
That's what the caller before, the last caller was talking about.
And whoever we've got on hold, we'll go ahead and put them on hold.
We've concluded our discussion with Kelly Rushing.
We're going to be getting him on as a guest in the future.
Is everything okay, Stephanie?
I just heard a call or something in the background.
That kind of broke my train of thought, but let me go back to what I was saying.
In my film, Road to Tyranny, we have FEMA, we have police, we have them being taught that all Christians are terrorists, the Founding Fathers are bad, anybody that talks about them is bad, that homeschoolers are terrorists.
We have their own documents, their own video, their own training flyers, we have it all.
And then you go out on the road, well it's like Abby Newman.
She's at a checkpoint, pulls up, Behind the other cars that are in front of her.
They say, we want to search your car.
She says, no, you can't do that without a warrant.
Fourth Amendment.
They jerk her out of the car.
She doesn't resist.
They charge her with resisting.
And then on their own audio, because they have microphones on their uniform, on their ties, they go, my goodness, you know, she's got a pocket constitution.
She's got information about Social Security.
She's got a, well, she even had a video she hadn't taken back to the store.
With that really evil right-winger, Harrison Ford, Patriot Games.
And in there was also my video, Police State 2000.
That upset them greatly.
And, you know, an award-winning film.
And so they discuss it and say, is this illegal?
Is she allowed to have this?
It's all on video!
So see, in America now, they think videos are illegal.
They think They think giving a cop a c-span video is illegal.
They think just talking to them are illegal.
And they'll feel good putting you under the jail.
They'll feel good taking your life and ruining it.
Because they're God now in this country.
We're living in the new Soviet Union of America.
absolutely amazing how they're harassing homeschoolers
They act like if you're a homeschooler, when CPS comes out, you automatically are some type of criminal.
Gun shops are being shut down and harassed.
Anything decent.
Anything America.
And I'm sick of it!
So, Kelly Rushing, we're going to get to the bottom of this.
Send me your documents.
And I'm going to write a news article about this.
I'm going to get this out to everybody.
Everybody.
And I'm going to... I am so sick of this type of garbage.
Okay, for those that just joined us and missed the preacher in the last hour who had a gun buyback at the First Presbyterian Church, according to ABC News, when I read the verse on air, or had a listener do it, Luke 22, 36, where Christ said, sell your cloaks and buy swords, he said that didn't exist.
And, uh, so now you're obviously calling in about that.
Oh yeah, they brought in police chiefs from all over the country, the 50 largest cities in America to program them and we find out that of course they just returned from an ADL sponsored trip to Israel.
By the way, I was sent a big law enforcement magazine last year where it said, and I ought to dig that out, Where it's said, where it's said, if somebody's got to get us out of the UN sticker, they're probably a criminal, go ahead and arrest them.
Now that is in a major, it was law enforcement technology.
We're already living in the Soviet Union, and if they could move against us en masse, they would have already done it, but some of their cops aren't programmed.
I need to take all the news articles about the FBI training manuals, Project Megiddo, the video clip of FEMA saying all the Christians are terrorists, all of this, the law enforcement technology magazine that said if somebody's got an anti-UN sticker, go ahead and arrest them, go ahead and take them on downtown.
And take all these stories and put them together in one big article with hyperlinks and video clips and documents.
And then, you know, have everybody email that around so millions of people can see it.
Because what they've done to police is, over the last 50 years, is they say, okay, we're going to frame criminals.
But, you know, we know somebody's guilty, we'll go ahead and frame them.
So they get cops to kind of, you know, get into that evil and start it.
Then, it just becomes institutionalized where if you don't like somebody, just charge them with something.
And then the ADL, the Simon Wiesenthal Center, and the Southern Poverty Law Center in their own manuals, which are written for the police, explain to them how they can get this done.
And then they go out and carry it out against the general public.
I mean, they come after you.
If you're a Christian, if you're a homeschooler, if you're into anything decent, you're under attack because you threatened the New World Order.
Diana in Colorado, then John, James, Tracy, Betty, and others.
The real point that I wanted to make was that I I sort of feel bad for you unsuspecting interviewees sometimes because I don't think that they know what they're getting into.
That's right, they don't.
And I felt a little bit bad for him because it seemed to me like he really has no bad intentions for what he's doing.
His point that, you know, the first woman who gave up her gun was a grandmother who didn't want her kids getting out of the gun.
The only thing, the one thing I want to say is that I just think he's a little bit misinformed.
You know, and I think for him, the way he's going to get the message is if we gently inform him, I think probably him feeling attacked isn't going to change his mind.
I called up and was going to talk about one thing, and after your caller in Kentucky, by golly, that got a whole other train of thought going.
Listen, I just wanted to give my heads up this.
I know in different parts of the state, or country I should say, that once a restraining order is put out against you, and that sounds like what was put out against him, It becomes a felony for you to have access to a firearm.
I have a friend of mine that's in Georgia that's going through that right now.
It seems as a course of just what happens when you get... And they told him, they told him, you can leave the jail when you sign this, and he fell for it.
Ignorance is not bliss, and he's not to be faulted for it.
A lot of people do that.
A friend of mine is going through a divorce in Georgia, and just as a routine matter of occurrence, judges down there issue restraining orders against the husbands, which means if the husbands have a gun in the house, They all of a sudden are a felon.
Well he may want to talk with an attorney down there and really find out because he may get a knock at the door at about 3 o'clock and somebody do a random search in his house because really it could go from real bad to real worse real quick.
Yeah, that's our free country, our wondrous free country, where the police manuals and magazines say, if they got an anti-UN sticker, go ahead and arrest them.
Yeah, that's what America's all about.
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And as the years progress, more and more people So the globalists better watch it.
Just in my life, I've done 1,400 radio interviews.
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Five years ago, the complete opposite.
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Now, as far as your pastor goes, our problem is we have a bunch of 501c3 corporations that call themselves churches.
And you should have asked the pastor this, and you can't think everything, but you know the Presbyterian Church, from the hierarchy down, have said that gay marriages now are acceptable.
I mean, you do know that's the Presbyterian stand on gay marriages, right?
That would have been an interesting question for that fellow.
And if they come out and they talk about Government policy, if they come out against government policy, the IRS has come in and they've already said they would yank their 501c3 status and pull the church away from them.
Most of the people, I'm not trying to accuse them, but they know not what they do.
They've made this social structure and traditions that amend God.
They use Colossians 2.16 to defend pagan traditions.
If it doesn't say to do it in the Bible, why add the tradition?
And I'm trying to make the link between why my gun is missing, it's been repossessed, and why people are walking around in a trance saying, there's nothing wrong, we're still free.
Well, I agree with you, and this whole peace thing that they come out with, that means we're supposed to lay down to their tyranny, we're supposed to submit.
One, the problem in Kentucky is caused by ignorance.
I think it's time for your listeners around the United States and around the world To contact their friends and relatives in the state of Kentucky and enlighten them as to what's really going on.
Well apparently Mr. Rushing left some videotapes in the mailbox of a Kentucky State Trooper and this State Trooper arrested him and charged him with terrorism.
So the people of Kentucky Need to be enlightened the best way I can think of would be for your listeners to contact their friends and relatives in the state of Kentucky and enlighten these people.
Tell them about Alex Jones, John Stapp Miller, what's going on, and send them your video tapes and books, etc.
We need to flood that county with these videos, which the police seem to think are illegal.
The judge told him, according to Kelly Rushing, he said, look, you are guilty of giving a police officer an anti-government, anti-police video.
I mean, folks, one of my videos is aired on national television.
I've been interviewed by national TV.
20-20, Good Morning America, hard copy, extra, C-SPAN.
The point here is, is that it's not illegal to make films and to write books, but these people think it is!
I have major law enforcement publications, magazines, documents, where they say, if you've got an anti-UN bumper sticker on your car, go ahead and arrest them.
There's a big professor out in California who simply said that Palestinians are kept in the equivalent of concentration camps, and that it's wrong, and the ADL's trying to get him fired now just for criticizing Israel, now criticizing Israel's anti-Semitic.
Oh, now you're a terrorist!
See, I mean, this isn't America anymore if we put up with this, people!
The fog of censorship on campuses is beginning to lift thanks to the pressure of litigation, bad publicity, and ridicule from a new and more pugnacious generation of collegians.
The litigation is being handled by groups such as the Center for Individual Rights, the Alliance Defense Fund, and most spectacularly by the Philadelphia-based Foundation for Individual Rights and Education, which is now a major player in the campus wars.
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Those groups, and this was a syndicated column by John... I hear you, Ron.
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coordinating complex drills The department has brought together government agencies in a broad effort for much of last year.
In doing so, it has put together a program that some national security and law enforcement officials describe as unrivaled among American cities.
Now, in this lengthy article, they get into the force roundups, the force inoculations, the quarantines, the sports stadiums, This is the government's smoke screen for a total lockdown.
And we have the head of NORTHCOM, General Eberhardt, in the LA Times, saying martial law is a good thing.
The outgoing head of CENTCOM, Tommy Franks, has said it.
It's happening.
Again, I cannot stress how serious things are right now.
And it's a chilling article, you need to read it.
Catastrophic attack possible, Bush says.
Associated Press, the United States still faces the threat of catastrophic attack by nuclear, biological, or chemical weapons, President George Bush said.
The possibility of secret and sudden attack with weapons of mass destruction is the greatest threat before humanity today, he said, as he highlighted his security credentials in a weekly radio address gearing to his campaign for this year's election.
And see, they can blow something up and say, see, we told you so.
Give all your rights up.
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Again, we had a lot of unexpected things come up here on the show today.
We've got stacks of news here, but we've got a really important subject coming up.
In Bush's radio address, he said, intercontinental ballistic missiles are going to get us, give all your rights up, basically.
The terrorists are resourceful.
He said, quote, America faces the possibility of catastrophic attack from ballistic missiles armed with weapons of mass destruction.
So we are developing and deploying missile defenses to guard our people.
Well, it's come out that our government's helped arm China, North Korea, Pakistan, allowed Pakistan to transfer these weapons.
So while the government's arming all our enemies, they're telling us, brace for all these attacks, and the terrorists are about to strike us, and Al Qaeda's got suitcase nukes.
That was last week.
And if they nuke something, it'll be, we're arresting whoever criticized the government!
We've got to do this to keep us safe!
Every time you complain, hey, do you see that smoke in U.S.
That's why it's so important to expose who's behind the terrorism.
We've got to do it now.
Here's another one.
China transferred nuclear weapons designs to Pakistan, our ally.
So has Israel and others.
China has been identified as the original source of nuclear weapons designs found in Libya and the latest disclosure about the global spread of nuclear technology, including to Pakistan.
So that's there.
Meanwhile, the military and the police are training to round you up and forcibly inoculate you and put you in camps.
He said, I look forward to putting a microchip in my son Maverick's neck and tracking everything he does.
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While some Oracle customers may see the announcement as long overdue, the company maintains it has been developing support for RFID and electronic product code deployments in its products for some time.
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We have Hutton Gibson on the line with us.
We've had him on the show, I don't know, four or five times over the last year or so.
Hutton Gibson's a very interesting fella.
He was the national champion of Jeopardy back in the 60s.
Moved his family to Australia and moved back a few years ago to the United States and he's been fighting the New World Order Speaking and writing a newsletter, and he even made a little TV show that I buried here locally a few years ago, exposing the corruption in the Catholic Church and how the takeover took place.
And yes, obviously he's the father of Mel Gibson, and so you know where Mel Gibson got a lot of his insight into the New World Order, which he speaks about many times when he's in the national news, or when they don't edit that out.
Oh yeah, I'm glad to be here.
Insane as I am.
This is Hutton Gibson and we're honored to have him back on the show.
Well, no, afternoon in some places and morning in other places, you're right.
Hutton, I don't want to digress, but I know you talk a lot about this.
I mean, to have a preacher in Dallas, a Presbyterian, saying that he didn't know that Jesus said, sell your cloak and buy a sword, it's hard to believe that a preacher wouldn't know that, but that cuts right to the heart of the matter of what we're facing.
We got into the New World Order and the draft and all of this, but I mean, I was captivated talking to you yesterday for 30 minutes about how the Catholic Church was taken over in 1958, or that's when one of the big takeovers took place, and I want to talk about that.
The people that have a job like that, you know, it's probably been in their family for generations.
Not directly, of course.
Probably uncle to nephew, that kind of thing.
But here's a man whose job it is to put in some straw, wet or dry.
And that's all he has to do.
He's a highly intelligent man, and he's there because He can swing a lot of clout and get into the conclave, though he's not a voter, and he's going to make a mistake on a thing like that.
Well, I'll tell you what, we're going to go to break.
I want to go back and recap this and go over the evidence and then talk about what's happened since then and how this has affected the world and the change in the Catholic Church since 1958.
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And we're talking to Hutton Gibson, who really is an expert when it comes to tracking the decline of the Catholic Church, and he's also involved in a movement that has, you know, set up, you would say, I guess, Orthodox Catholic churches around the country.
And of course his son Mel Gibson has built one.
I guess it's in Malibu where they still perform the same rites that have been changed over the last 40, 50 years.
Hutton, I was talking to you yesterday and you had that Latin saying about not letting the bastards grind us down.
Now, Hutton, before the break, you were getting into 1958, Pope Pius dies, they have the wet straw, they have the dry straw, and for thousands of years before, they put the straw in and whatever color comes out, then that tells them.
Go over that for people that don't understand it, and then let's get into the takeover of the Catholic Church.
Well, they burn the ballots each time, so nobody knows who voted for whom after they're counted.
And then they put them in the fire there, inside the Sistine Chapel, and the smoke comes out the chimney.
It's either white or black, depending on whether the straw is wet or dry.
So, when it comes out white, that means we have a pope elected.
And this 58 there, on the 26th of October, it came out white.
And went that way for five minutes and suddenly it started getting gray and then it turned black.
And then they recalled the guards and said, hey, there's been a mistake.
As I say, that's unbelievable.
It's just not likely.
It'd be the first time it ever happened.
And then they come out two days later with our rotund good Pope John.
And he wasn't eligible.
Because to be a Pope, you have to be a Catholic.
And he was a well-placed member in the Freemasons.
And Freemasonry carried with it an automatic excommunication from the Church.
So he wasn't in the Church when he was elected.
So he wasn't eligible.
So he came out and started making changes.
Now the Pope's oath of office is to the effect that He will take exactly what was handed him from his predecessor and hand it on absolutely without change.
No additions, no subtractions, not even divisions to his successor.
And these last four have done everything but.
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Of course, I don't believe they take an oath anymore.
That's beside the point because they are now superior beings.
They don't have to obey anybody.
They can correct anything that was done for 1900 years, and because they have been elected there, most people look at them and say, well, yeah, well he can do this, he's Pope.
He damn well can't do this!
But we have been infiltrated, like almost every government in the world, right from the top.
That's the way to get them, you know?
You get all the sheep on the bottom will just go along because this guy says he's Pope, And they don't look at the fact that he can't people, because he's not doing what a pope should.
And then now, suddenly we see the results, all the scandals in the church, people not attending, can't get priests.
We have, at the same time, all over the world, more and more corruption coming out, and Catholic churches have these anti-gun doctrines, so do the other churches too.
So, they had their men all through the church in the upper story, which they had told us they were going to do.
About 1850 or 1860, there was a gentleman named, I use the word loosely, Marzini, who was the head of the United Italy thing, which stole the Papal States and put all the other little kingdoms out of business, Dutchies, whatever they were, and molded them all into one country, which had not been one country since the Roman Empire.
Different peoples.
They had Greeks down in the South, Sicily, and they had Germans up in the Northwest, and on the Northeast, and in between they had all varieties.
They didn't even speak the same language.
But they were nationalized, all put together in this great craze for nationhood, by a bunch of Freemasons, who told us at the time they were going to lead us Following their flag, thinking it was our own.
And they threatened to do it, and you see the result, and they didn't do it?
Well, apparently they elected somebody and he would have been a man who was not particularly palatable to certain other interests.
And somebody went out and came back with that message.
This guy isn't going to go.
We're going to run into trouble.
Somebody's going to bomb Rome with the atom bomb.
Something like that.
Instead of standing up to them and going over to the radio and broadcasting that, they folded up and elected somebody else without getting rid of the one they had already elected.
Who knows, maybe talk a little bit, but not give any secrets out about this Diane Sawyer interview coming up tonight on Primetime.
She's a CFR member, so I don't trust her very much.
It's all coming up, folks, with Hutton Gibson.
We're going to talk more about the transformation of the Catholic Church.
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I didn't have Hutton Gibson on the show two weeks ago to talk about the passion of price,
the new film coming out next week on the 25th.
And I didn't have him on today to talk about it.
He's welcome to if he wants to.
But it's all interconnected.
How sick our country's gotten, how sick the world's gotten that Mel Gibson makes a film about Jesus Christ, and it's attacked, it's demonized, but it has blown up in their face.
But I do want to bring up one issue, and I'm not going to talk about it on air because I don't want to steal Mel Gibson's thunder.
You know, he told Hutton this with no intention of it going on the air.
But tomorrow we will talk about it, if it's not in the primetime live this evening, 10 o'clock Eastern, 9 o'clock Central.
I'm going to be watching it.
I hope you watch it.
And it concerns some of the statements that Mel made that are very powerful and also funny.
And we'll just see if CFR member Diane Sawyer, New World Order propagandist, puts these clips in there.
I'm looking at an ABC News synopsis of the interview coming up tonight, and it's on InfoWars.com.
I see none of the quotes I was told in there.
Hunton, it'll be interesting to see if out of a three-plus hour interview that's condensed down to 30 minutes, these quotes are in there.
national rifle association decades ago it was pro-gun
Today, its job is disarming the American people.
They go into federal courts, they botch cases, they go after groups that are really pro-gun.
They're there to neutralize the five-plus million members, to pacify them.
They've been overtaken.
The Baptist churches, a lot of them are pro-New World Order, anti-gun, anti-family.
It's happened to the Methodists.
It's happened to the Episcopalian.
I mean, you see these articles all the time.
You've seen it in your own church.
And this is what the elite is good at, is going in and taking over organizations, institutions, and clearly, that's what happened with the Catholic Church after 1958.
And, Hunton, you're telling me they went in and changed the basic doctrine down to saying that Christ hadn't done his work?
In one document there, the Church in the Modern World, Gaudium et Spes, they call it, in its first three words, that we are joined with the rest of men in the search for truth.
So basically, we've seen the same thing with the Protestant churches, all these hundreds and hundreds of new Bibles that come out, where suddenly Jesus supports homosexuality, suddenly Jesus loves abortion, suddenly Jesus loves gun control.
I mean, I don't know, Hutton, if you've seen some of these new Bibles that are out there, but it's like Anton LaVey wrote them or something.
Well, they eventually vitiated all the sacraments.
They put in a new rite of mass, which is way out of their competence, as I say.
They've got to pass on what was given to them.
And not only that, but then, as they put the new one in, they made the old one redundant, you might say.
They forbade it.
Not officially.
No one can find where they did it.
But they did it just the same.
And it was by order of the various bishops who were in on this, Well, the Bishop's Conferences, they decided a date on which this new right would be mandatory.
And you better not do the Oven, in spite of the fact that, according to the law of the Church, the Oven was privileged and nobody could be forbidden it.
And we've seen this not just with the Catholic Church, but the Constitution.
The textbooks don't quote the actual text, they tell you what it said.
We see this with other organizations, and now the world is upside down, where What you have is, goodness is evil and evil is good, is what they tell us.
Hutton, before we run out of time, I've had you on many times, and never promoted the fact that you've written four books and I've got a video you made and I've got your newsletter but I haven't got one of these books.
I would love one.
You told me during a break that is the Pope Catholic is one of your best books.
Well, a lot of people just go to church and they want to feel good, and the preacher wants to make them feel good, and they just tell them to go along with all this.
It's like Pat Robertson saying that, well, China's doing what it has to do with forced abortion and infanticide.
he said that on cnn he he posted on his website and i people get mad at me
every time i say he said that well i have to tell you about and uh...
Getting a chance to meet you and some of your children and grandchildren and your wonderful wife, Joy.
I mean, it's good to know that there are great folks like you out there here in the United States that have been getting the truth out for so long.
And for anybody that doubts that one person can have an effect and change people's minds, you've written four books, you've given hundreds of speeches, you've done a lot of radio interviews, uh... you know through your children you have done so much
as well and look at your son now and all these great films he's made in the
passion coming out i mean to everybody out there shame on you if you don't
Because they did change the sacrament of holy orders while they were at it.
Same day they put in a new mass, they put in a new set of holy orders and we haven't had a priest properly ordained or a bishop properly consecrated in the Latin rite that was in communication with Rome.
You might find some in China or Ukraine, someplace where the The Iron Curtain got in the way.
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Hutton, in the last few minutes we've got left, and I definitely want to have you back up again in the future to get more into the New World Order, because I respect your opinion and research on it.
What are solutions?
How do we turn this around?
This is the total takeover of every institution by the New World Order.
So basically, coming out of Babylon, I agree, we should have some states to see.
That'll send the message and have some pockets of liberty that are left.
We're not going to fix the country by taking over Washington.
We're going to fix it by taking over our counties, our cities, our states.
That's how it's going to happen.
Hutton Gibson, it's good to know that they're wholesome, decent people like yourself and your wife and your children and grandchildren out there fighting the globalists.
It was great to have you on the show.
Be careful on your upcoming trip and God bless you.
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