Alex Jones hosts the February 12, 2004 Big Thursday Show, detailing over 400 cities rejecting the Patriot Act and alleging U.S. arms sales to Pakistan involving the Bin Laden family. He claims FBI directives suppressed investigations into Khan Laboratories while promoting documentaries like "9-1-1: The Road to Tyranny." Jones argues globalists use America for domination, discusses Mexican land grants, and highlights Pentagon contractors owing $3 billion in unpaid taxes, concluding that government policies fuel anti-American sentiment and suppress dissent under the guise of national security. [Automatically generated summary]
Lined up for you, it is the 12th day of February 2004.
I'm Alex Jones, your host.
In about 30 minutes, we've got the New York Bill of Rights Defense Committee coming on the show.
Talk about New York under citizen pressure.
The city, of course, supported the Patriot Act until the citizens got involved and exposed what was in it.
Coming on, talk about New York throwing it out on Monday, as did St.
Paul, one of the twin cities up in Minnesota.
And several more towns and cities in the last three days have also thrown out the Patriot Act.
I haven't counted up how many cities have now thrown it out in six months or so.
Six months ago it was 400 plus cities and multiple states.
And you notice that news item has really disappeared now as this march continues with conservatives and liberals waking up to the Bill of Rights culture and trying to reenact it.
Also in the second hour, BBC Newsnight investigative reporter, best-selling New York Times best-selling author, Greg Palast will be on the show, and he exposes Al Gore, George Bush, all of them.
He's been reporting, you've heard about the Pakistan Arms Bazaar, well he reported before that how the U.S.
government was helping arm Pakistan and shutting down this story.
That's right, as usual, arming the enemies so they can proliferate the weapons and destabilize the world, and they can give us the New World Order as the solution to keep us all safe.
What do radical racist Mexicans Osama Bin Laden and Bush have in common?
They all hate America.
Remember on Monday we talked about That game last week, one of the Olympic qualifying games, where the U.S.
won and before the game, the Mexicans were booing the Star-Spangled Banner in Mexico and then chanting, Usama, Usama, Usama.
Well, at an even bigger tournament in Guadalajara, yesterday, Now, guess what happened?
This was the Associated Press, Mexicans scream Osama as U.S.
Olympic team loses, and they also booed the Star Spangled Banner yet again.
So, we were predicting, not hard to predict it, that that would happen again, and it's happened yet again.
And these are the people that Bush wants to legalize, he wants to get rid of the border, But he wants to spy on the American people and outsource our jobs and it's amazing.
So, more on that coming up.
Walker pledges Utah will not reconnect with the Matrix system.
Salt Lake City Tribune, the Matrix tracking grid.
Some victories against it for now.
Bush report from the Seattle Times.
Bush report, sending jobs overseas helps the U.S.
That's right.
News analysis series of weird crimes upsets many Germans.
We're going to do some of the stuff happening in Germany.
Cross-border church visit cost man $10,000.
That's because he's an American citizen.
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New York City becomes the largest city in the U.S.
to oppose the imprisonment of civil liberties in the name of national security.
So has St.
Paul, Minnesota.
In many other towns and cities this week we have folks from the Bill of Rights Defense Campaign joining us in about 25 minutes here on the air.
Then Greg Powless with the BBC, also New York Times best-selling author.
Talk about how our government is arming and propping up Pakistan and covering up the fact that they've armed our supposed enemies.
So, you don't want to miss these interviews.
We're also going to have wide open phones at 1-800-259-9231.
Let me dive straight into the news.
In the last segment I mentioned that I'm sure you've all heard that last week the U.S.
soccer team in qualifying matches beat the Mexicans in Mexico.
They were booing the Star-Spangled Banner, chanting, Usama, Usama, Usama.
They're idiots and don't know he's a CIA asset and works for the Globalist.
And I just pointed out that Bush, Bin Laden, and racist Mexicans, those that are racist, have one big thing in common.
They hate America.
And there were predictions that, with an even bigger qualifying match that had tens of thousands of fans attending, that they would boo again and chant Osama and the Associated Press says that exactly that happened.
Boo's nearly drowned out the Star-Spangled Banner.
As Mexicans chanted, Osama, Osama, Osama, as Mexico eliminated the United States in Olympic Men's Soccer qualifying, Tuesday night in Guadalajara, a loud anti-American crowd hollered as Mexico beat the United States 4-0 Tuesday night in the Under-23 Tournament, claiming a berth in the Athens Olympics, the Associated Press reported.
Citizens of the problem-plagued country, as well as millions of illegal aliens in America, are still in a smit about their 2-0 defeat to the United States in the second round of 2002 World Cup.
What type of sickos?
I mean, nobody in the past... We'd have different matches against the Russians during the Cold War.
They wouldn't boo our national anthem.
We wouldn't boo theirs.
Nobody acts like this.
I mean, this is incredible, number one, to boo during a national anthem, but that's nothing compared to chanting, Usama, Usama, Usama, who, who, these ignorant people in Mexico, just like the American people still believe, carried out the attacks.
He's a CIA asset, but he is evil.
The point is, they think he did all this, so they're cheering the murder of 2,800 and something people.
That is disgusting!
I'm telling you folks, Mexico hates our guts.
And a lot of people from Mexico don't buy into it, but a lot of them do.
And our government's helping fund and finance it.
And this is just a window into the minds of these people.
And shame on them.
That's disgusting behavior.
But don't worry, Bush is with Mexico, getting rid of the borders, spying on Americans, taking away our rights, but oh, giving more rights to all these illegals.
The establishment loves it.
Again, the terrorists attacked us because they had our freedom.
Military-Industrial Complex attacked us because they wanted to have a pretext to take our freedoms.
And that's exactly what they've done!
So I guess, Bush, you gave Bin Laden what he wanted, didn't you?
What you wanted.
That dark cult of evil you talked about that feeds off human suffering.
No one knows the power of evil.
Like goodness!
It was a weird speech he gave at the Pentagon.
I have that in, uh, Road to Tyranny.
Walker pledges Utah will not Reconnect with the Matrix, Salt Lake City Tribune, and it's a total lie.
Let's read it.
Governor Walker pledged through her Chief of Staff that Utah will not reconnect with a controversial anti-terrorism program using billions of government records on citizens without specific approval from the legislature.
State Chief Gary Doxey said he hopes the vow persuades lawmakers not to rush to permanently sever Utah's participation in Matrix during the current legislative session before a newly appointed oversight committee has a chance to thoroughly investigate the project.
Now let me just briefly, because I've got a bunch of news, explain this in 60 seconds.
TIPS, WAVE, SAVE, TOTAL INFORMATION, MATRIX, all of this is different names for programs of the NSA and its master program called ECHELON.
And so you protest, you demonstrate against Matrix, Total Information Awareness, TIPS, and they go, OK, we canceled it.
And then they will actually increase the funding and give it some new name.
And you start fighting that new name, and they come back.
Look, all the states have been collecting every piece of data about you you can imagine, buying it from private firms.
Many firms, like Walmart and others, just give it to the feds.
And so the governor says, oh no, don't pass a law banning this in the states.
They can't have a law saying it's illegal because then they'll have to break the law to keep it going.
They just want to say, okay, we won't do the matrix and then not have a law passed and just change the name.
So, just so you know, that's what they do.
You know, we think we have all these victories and we would have victories if we'd fallen through.
But instead we take the form of victory instead of the substance of victory.
Bush reports sending jobs overseas helps the U.S.
and this is from the Seattle Times.
The movement of American factory jobs and white-collar work to other countries is part of a positive transformation that will enrich the U.S.
economy over time, even if it causes short-term pain and dislocation, the Bush administration said yesterday.
That's real interesting.
I thought they said NAFTA and GATT would cause milk and honey.
That was, what, 94's?
10 years ago!
In fact, the reenactment of NAFTA is coming up this year.
And they are going to expand it under free trade area of the Americas.
And so it's a wonderful thing.
I mean, they're even taking the service jobs.
They'll bring in, pack a house full of illegals, And then they have one power bill, one water bill to pay, and they're not on the grid, they're not paying taxes, and then citizens get displaced.
Even our service economy is shutting down.
By the way, new numbers out, there's actually more unemployment, more layoffs, but the average person says, well, the news says everything's wonderful.
Well, here's my economic numbers for you.
Three years ago, you couldn't go anywhere from six in the morning till 7, 8 o'clock at night without being in traffic for over an hour.
I can drive anywhere I want even in prime time traffic in 35, 40 minutes.
About a third of the houses I see are up for sale.
Most people I know are out of work.
Just come on.
Bush report, sending jobs overseas helps U.S.
The embrace of foreign outsourcing, an accelerating trend that has contributed to U.S.
job losses in recent years, has become an issue in the 2004 elections, as contained in the President's annual report to Congress on the U.S.
economy.
Outsourcing is just a new way of doing international trade, said N. Gregory Mancou, Chairman of Bush's Council of Economic Advisors.
And he says, it's great!
This is very good!
Well, then you're going to get more of this wonderfulness then.
Reuters, a man, a Catholic living up in Canada, I mean up in Maine on the border with Canada would drive across a little river there every Sunday and multiple times weekly to attend his church service and they put up a fence there now And they just locked the gate.
The road was just blocked on Sunday, so he drove around it, and he's been given a $10,000 fine for breaching it.
But illegal aliens?
Hey, you can commit murder and you get thrown out of jail.
It's just very interesting to see that happening.
They really clamped down that northern border to get out.
I've talked to folks that have been going in and out of Canada on business.
By the way, the southern border is getting like that.
Hard to get out.
Oh, easier than ever to get in.
That's your freedom.
Continuing here, 75,000 have HIV AIDS in New York City.
UPI, more than 75,000 people in New York City are known to be living with AIDS and are infected with the virus that causes the disease, health researchers reported.
That's where the government first in the US put HIV virus in hepatitis and other shots.
They got caught doing that.
We have the official federal documents on that.
Very serious situation.
Some countries in Africa, 45% of the population have it.
And by the way, there was a big BBC article a year ago going, well, people who've never had sex and whose parents don't have it, have it, and then they found it in some of the needles and they don't know how it got there.
GAO, Pentagon, pays corporate tax evaders, UPI, about 27,100 Defense Department contractors owe the federal government more than $3 billion in unpaid taxes, but the Pentagon continues to hire and pay them with taxpayer money.
A congressional investigation is found.
No one's being prosecuted.
You can steal billions, and there's no problem.
But if you don't fill out a tax form just right, or they lose your tax form, or they just decide they want to randomly audit you, bye-bye for you.
Bye-bye, baby.
No judge, no jury.
Some prison time.
Report slams airline computer screening and not a Press International.
Congressional Report to the Publisher Friday slams the planning for a controversial new computer screening system designed to identify potential terrorists among airline passengers, saying it has failed a series of tests set by lawmakers.
Folks, the Caps 2 system is the new national ID card rating system.
On your driver's license or ID card, they're going to have what you're rated as.
You understand?
According to credit, marriage, misdemeanors, and money in the bank.
It's all there.
Matrix system is one of the collection suckers, you know, down at the bottom of the tentacles.
Key activities in the development of the system have been delayed.
Transportation Security Administration has not yet completed information systems planning activities.
Says the draft summer report.
The damning report may prevent funds of the system, known as the acronym CAPS II for Computer Assisted Passenger Prescreening System Phase II, from passing Congress.
So Congress isn't worried about the violation of freedom and categorizing Americans.
They're just worried it isn't being put in quick enough.
A lot more coming up.
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now it's jones on the gcm radio network all right my friend your calls are coming up and i guess
new york city all rights defense campaign thrown out the patriot act
And Greg Powell's from the BBC.
Andrew and George and Alan and Brock, we'll get to your calls here in a few minutes.
FSB were warned about Moscow Metro Blast.
This is out of the Gazette, Moscow Gazette.
A man who showed up at the Russian Embassy in Tbilisi a day before the attack on the Moscow Metro warned that a huge terrorist attack would be carried out in the Russian capital and in Stropol by people he had met in person.
This information was communicated earlier this week by the Georgian security minister, but the FSB did nothing.
Folks, the FSB was caught in 99 planting explosives in a fourth apartment building and we've got all that posted and done a bunch of shows on it and got all the mainstream news articles at PrisonPlanet.com in the Russian Terror section and look at who stands to gain from that.
The Chechens have said publicly, why would we blow anything up?
Why would we come to Moscow and bomb you so then you get mad and come attack us?
But it's not just common sense, it's the evidence of who's done it in the past.
By the way, that candidate running against Putin, who disappeared last week, showed up yesterday in a satellite of Russia and said that he had gone into hiding because he thought that Putin was after him.
And one of the other candidates running against Putin has been put in prison, and they've seized other media empires and done that, so I tend to lean towards believing him, but again, we just don't know.
Police respond to federal lawsuit in drug suite.
This is out of the state of South Carolina.
Remember, hundreds, it was like 150 children.
Police yelling, cussing at them, put your hands behind your back, get down on the floor.
Police dogs jumping on them.
And the Big Brother security cameras picking all this up.
Goose Creek Police acted in their official capacity.
...and did not violate student constitutional rights during a Stanford High drug sweep during which officers with guns drawn ordered students to the floor according to a response to a federal lawsuit.
Chief Harvey Becker was engaged in the performance of his official duties and at no time did he violate any clearly established constitutional rights of the plaintiffs which were known or should have been known to the 13-page response file this week.
I mean, folks, you've seen the video, at least most of you have.
I mean, it looked like something from a Supermax prison where they go, you know, where they open all the cell doors and throw everybody out on the ground and start going through things.
But there were no guns at the prisons.
Here they're aiming loaded guns at their heads, yelling at them, police dog jumps up, grabs a pack of a student and starts viciously shaking it, jumps on another student, they're crying, begging.
They had a police drill in Minnesota two years ago.
We had the teacher on.
They went to a portable building.
Didn't even tell the teacher it was a drill.
Said, get down on the floor.
I'll kill you if you don't.
Then drug her outside.
Said, walk towards the woods with your hands up.
She thought she was about to be killed.
Soiled herself.
This happens all over the country.
It's just training us how to be slaves.
And the filing also said the plaintiffs failed to state the cause of the legal action or facts supporting it.
The city of Greens Creek Police Department can be sued or held liable.
And 17 Stanford students sued December, alleging police and school officials terrified them during the November 5th raid, which attracted national attention.
Well, I've had their lawyer on, we've seen the video, and no drugs were found, and it's just, again, training our students how to be prisoners.
ID cards, cameras in the classrooms, many schools, cameras in the bathrooms.
This isn't freedom.
Here's an article on the Palm Beach Post, deputy charged with stealing cash from motorists, and he's been charged with pulling them over and taking their wallets and taking the money out of it.
That's just standard.
And again, we're not saying all police are bad, but you have criminals, just like you have anywhere else, in government.
But government then gets this shroud of anonymity and power, and they always bust some little cop who's doing something like this, but then When crime labs systematically frame people and there's industrialized corruption, you know, and massive drug dealing, nobody goes to jail.
Debate over outsourcing heats up, ignited by election year politics.
Bush's official economic commission says that chipping jobs overseas is good for the economy.
This is another article here.
It says Myra Brostein, that lost a software job, In April, when Bellevue-based Watchmark Comintel shifted her job and 16 others to a lower-cost operation in India.
Before Bronstein was let go, the Mercer Island resident was given the choice of either training for Indian replacements or forfeiting a severance package.
And she chose to train the workers.
And I've got a lot of friends who get told, we're going to let you go in a few months, train these Indians, and then go back to India.
Oh boy, I tell ya, globalism's wonderful, isn't it?
We'll be right back.
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I'm Alex Jones.
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I want to thank the listener that transcribed, Andres von Bulow, the former German defense minister, and of course the head minister for the Ministry of Technology.
He's gone public laying out how The Globalist carried out September 11th, and we have that entire transcript, a perfect tool to email out to people.
It's riveting, informative reading.
I guess about 20 pages long.
You can email that out to your friends, your family, post it on message boards, and if you do that, this story will get legs and get the attention it needs.
First time we had somebody do a transcript was of Greg Pallast.
Well, that's not true.
They'd done it for For the guy that brought down the mob in Chicago and helped impeach Bill Clinton, David Shippers, and we had some others out there, Stanley Hilton and others, but this is the first transcript that really went worldwide and was published, according to Greg Powell, in hundreds and hundreds of Latin American newspapers, dozens of newspapers in Italy and all over Europe.
Because we cut right to the heart of the matter to lay out the documentation.
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On Monday, or was it Tuesday, I've got the articles right here in front of me, New York City, City Council under pressure of the citizenry, left and right, Throughout the Patriot Act, St.
Paul did it as well.
A bunch of other towns and cities have done it this week.
It's well over the 150 cities they've been saying for six months have done it.
It's well over 400.
And multiple states.
And joining us is a gentleman, Uday Ofer.
With the Bill of Rights Defense Campaign.
We've got a link to the website NYCDORDC.ORG at my website.
Okay, see, I saw the article on Monday, so I was thinking, oh, it happened Monday.
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Yeah, there's been a bit of a media blackout on this issue, as I'm sure you're well aware of with other issues.
The resolution calls on government officials to protect and uphold civil liberties and civil rights while prosecuting the so-called war on terrorism.
The USA Patriot Act, but in addition to that, other government policies through executive directives, departmental regulations, and court rulings have had You know, I've seriously undermined basic fundamental rights and liberties in the United States since 9-11.
Well, they're going after topless bars, county commissioners, Rush Limbaugh with it.
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Yeah, you know, it's really, you know, there's been a lot of focus on the USA Patriot Act, but one of the things that, you know, we try to educate people here in New York City is that it's a lot broader than that, and it's just not the Patriot Act.
Well, it's Patriot Act II, it's Homeland Security, and before Patriot Act II was even passed seven weeks ago, Bush was already implementing Well, Patriot 2 has not been passed.
Well, according to Ron Paul, and I've read the bill, much, I'd say about 60%, that's what the congressman says, about 60% of Patriot Act 2 has been passed.
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I mean, there's one provision, the one that expands the ability of the government to go through your private records.
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No, the majority of the 9-11 attacks happened here.
Our office is only a few blocks away from Ground Zero, from the World Trade Center.
And many of the council members who represent that area voted for this resolution.
Here in New York City, it was a grassroots effort that, as you said, was joined by both the left and the right, and sort of also not your typical actors.
We had everyone from You know, the New York Public Library Guild, which is the largest library workers' union in the country, to the NAACP, to Bob Barr.
Bob Barr, actually, from the American Conservative Union, submitted testimony on behalf of the resolution.
It was a long fight.
It took about a year to get this resolution passed, because there were many council members who felt, you know, like lawmakers are feeling all around the country that if they take a stand, you know, for rights, for freedoms, In this climate, they're going to be deemed unpatriotic.
Attorneys also twist their arms, threaten them with not getting their funding, and the Feds say, do what we say, or it's going to be your fault when there's another attack.
That's the big stick they hold.
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Yeah, no, and it's especially true here in New York City.
I mean, over here, we feel a lot of this pressure.
The U.S.
Attorney's Office, I mean, I actually, I debate, you know, some of the U.S.
Attorneys here in New York City, and it's always It's always a heated issue because this is where, you know, this is ground zero for a lot of these issues.
Many of the U.S.
Attorneys who litigated, you know, the USS Cole bombing, the First World Trade Center bombing, the John Walker Ling case, I mean, they all sit over here.
So then, we meet them in debates and it's It's interesting, because when you debate them and you get into the specifics of what has been happening to Americans and to people in the United States, because this is not an abstract discussion.
Well, they've always claimed, and that's a great point, Udi, they're always claiming that, oh, it's only for terrorists, but Section 802 has such a broad definition of H.R. 31 Yep, and that's a great example.
That's definitely one of the most egregious provisions in the Patriot Act.
acted in danger of human life it's a violation of any federal or state law.
unidentified
Yep, and that's a great example. That's exactly what, that's definitely one of the most egregious
provisions in the Patriot Act. The government says they haven't applied it yet, but what
The spokesman for the Justice Department, and they have the transcript on the Washington Times, what Mr. Sierra said last year, they will use it in all crimes, they will use it in all investigations.
unidentified
Yeah, and this is, you know, that section is part of the reason they actually have the left and the right coming together on this issue.
Because I think many people on the right realize that the next, let's say, pro-choice administration might use this on the pro-life movement.
Because, like we said, it could be read so broadly that anyone from Eleanor Roosevelt to Martin Luther King to just anybody engaged in minor civil disobedience... Well, we just had him subpoenaing people at a peace meeting at a major university.
In the first three months of 2003, the government labeled 56 cases as terrorism cases.
And Syracuse University, here in New York State, did some research into What were those 56 cases?
And they found out that 8 of those cases were the Vieques protesters down in the island of Vieques off of Puerto Rico who were protesting the government's use of that island as a military exercise base.
And as some of your listeners might know, the government is pulling out of there.
But the arrest of 8 of those protesters who, you know, locked themselves up to a fence around the military exercise area have been labeled as terrorism cases by the Justice Department.
Other ones are general... Others are against NORTHCOM, Homeland Security, Patriot Act 1 and 2.
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Yeah, so the 250 numbers that I use are the ones... I'm referring to the ones that deal with post-911 civil liberties issues, and I define that by, you know, Patriot Act, the roundups of Arab, Muslim, and South Asians, the stifling of free speech.
Because here in New York City in particular, you know, In the weeks after 9-11, we had massive dragnet operations by the FBI and immigration authorities into immigrant neighborhoods, where people who just looked like they were Arab or Muslim were basically rounded up, thrown in jail for weeks without charges.
Subjected to a pattern of physical and verbal abuse.
And that's the language of the Inspector General's Office of the Justice Department.
It's not our language.
Um, you know, held for months, for months, on minor things like not filing a change of address within 10 days, and then all, 100% were cleared of terrorism charges.
Well now, now they're trying to pass a law, in fact it may not even pass, they said it was going to pass Monday.
Where if, when you set up an internet site, and if you don't put your home physical address, or your email gets changed or is wrong, seven years in prison or a multi-hundred thousand dollar fine.
unidentified
Yeah.
We're seeing, you know, in the name of national security, in the name of fighting terrorism, we're seeing massive changes to our basic constitutional rights in the United States, and the lives of thousands of people are being directly impacted by this.
I mean, we talk all the time to families who, you know, especially Arab and Muslim families who say, you know, my husband went to the local grocery store, you know, a month after 9-11.
I didn't see him for six, seven months, you know, later, because somehow he got picked up on the street for walking Meanwhile, Bush flies 144 members of the Bin Laden family out the afternoon of 9-11 when all other air traffic is grounded.
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Yeah, that's a great example.
I'm happy that you're talking about this, but unfortunately most of the media in this country just hasn't picked this up.
You have articles in the major mainstream press on the Patriot Act and things like that, but it's still They don't humanize it yet.
Las Vegas Review-Journal, a topless bar who may have paid a county commissioner for favorable zoning, and they use the Patriot Act?
I mean, that has nothing to do with terrorism.
unidentified
Yeah, and this is one of the arguments we were able to get on a lot of council members here in New York City to get on board with our movement when we educated them that, you know what, so much of this has nothing to do with terrorism.
Now you know when Bush blows something else up, Udi, that...
That they're going to say, oh, it's your fault, now shut up, and we're going to arrest those that, you know, they've got national talk show hosts that say if you criticize the government, you should be arrested because you're aiding the terrorists, you should be put in a camp, the head of NORTHCOM says that the troops are going to take over our lives, the ongoing head of CENTCOM, Tommy Frank said we're going to go to martial law for the next attack.
Were you aware of that stuff?
unidentified
You know, I'm not, I'm definitely not a North Com and other, you know, things like that, an expert of that.
But what I do know, and a fear that we have here at the ACLU almost every day, is what will happen if, you know, there's another terrorist attack?
Like, what's going to be the government's response?
Well, that's an interesting point you made, because, you know, you're obviously with the ACLU and also working with the Bill of Rights, the press campaign.
The ACLU didn't seem too worried about the police state stuff under Bill Clinton, and I just want to point out that the conservatives and libertarians have stood up against Bush, and I would hope if we get Bush's skull and bones peapod buddy in there, that when he's pulling all this, you guys are going to be just as active.
unidentified
Well, I definitely will.
Because I've got to tell you, a lot of the powers that the Bush administration is using right now were actually passed into law during the Clinton era.
And I'll be the first one to say that.
And I gotta tell you, too, I don't view this as a Republican-Democrat issue.
I really don't.
Let's not forget that it was Franklin D. Roosevelt that ordered the internment of Japanese-Americans, you know, during World War II.
You need to read the Cigar Aficionado article from December where the outgoing head of CENTCOM says, if we're attacked again, we're going to set aside the Constitution for a military form of government.
And you know, when you look at it, this is where, you know, one of the points that I try to get across is that You know, this is not the first time the United States is in a time of crisis.
And this is not the first time that the government is feeding us a line that say, we need to suspend the Constitution in order to preserve our freedoms.
America isn't America if we don't have those freedoms and liberties in the Bill of Rights.
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We'll be right back with your calls.
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Where they, quote, arrest people and put them in there later and yeah, that's why they love illegal alien labor.
That's why they've got 20,000 illegal Mexicans they made legal over in Iraq.
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Right.
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And when you read about the people that were involved, the gangsters, drug dealers, war criminals... Well, I know this, $1.2 trillion is missing over the Clinton administration and now the Bush administration, and about 40% of that money has disappeared just while Bush has been in for three and a half years.
Already into the second hour of this global transmission against tyranny, we have Greg Pallast, BBC Newsnight investigative reporter, best-selling author, joining us coming up the next segment to talk about, well, the arms bazaar in Pakistan and what's really going on with Lord Bush, his involvement protecting the proliferators of thermal nuclear weapons.
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Alan in Texas.
Alan, go ahead.
Good to talk to you, Alan.
You're on the air.
unidentified
I hope your previous guest is still listening, because I wanted to talk for a minute about the city's resolutions for the Patriot Act.
And I first would like to highlight this.
There was a buddy of mine, I was delivering my wheatgrass down there on Barton Springs Drive, and one of the kids that runs that shop told me that he was walking into a travel agency and got called outside by four police officers, which pulled him aside, interrogated him about who he is, where he lives, what his phone number is.
What are you doing here in this travel agency?
I think I was just taking care of personal business.
And the kid says, well, wait a minute.
This is over the top.
Why are you guys asking me all these questions?
And I said, well, we saw you jogging across the crosswalk over there.
OK?
Now, that spurred me.
I called up, actually I emailed Mayor Pro Tem Goodman to ask her what sort of action had been taken on the resolution against the Patriot Act.
To ensure that those resolves were followed up on, what kind of bite is there in this resolution?
I got back a full page letter, she must be able to type really fast, and bless her heart, she's a great woman.
Um, so I called the police department to ask what the community... Listen, when you sign a credit card, uh, uh, form now, when you get a bank account, uh, when you're going anywhere, it's all Patriot Act.
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We're gonna give your info to the government when you buy stuff out of catalogs.
It's just, all these big corporations are lining up for the Caps 2 system.
Now understand, that's like Nazi Germany where, let me see your papers, why are you going in there?
unidentified
Right, now you said earlier in your show today, you know, we think we've made progress, but then either nothing has happened or it gets worse.
Okay, we cannot stop with a resolution on the Patriot Act.
We're going to need, and every one of these cities, I hope your listeners will take action on this, we're going to need hearings to talk about Like, um, city law.
And to get that started, you can go sign up for your three minutes, take ten of your friends, sign up, and go, hey, you know, that young man needs to go down there and say, hey, I walked in a travel agency and they were asking me what I'm doing.
I mean, what is this?
It's, you know, the secret police milling around the street.
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If they pass these resolutions and have nothing to follow it up with, the police department, they just, I mean, they sounded like they were just laughing at me.
What do you mean, do we have any kind of a monitoring system on Illegal or unconstitutional activities.
But if we have a local resolution that cannot prevent them from doing that, by making it illegal, punishable, by violating city law, and if the county law is the only, if our sheriff is the only guy who can really keep the feds out, they need to be on the bus.
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About a week and a half ago it came out that Pakistan, our little buddies with the dictatorship there, Same folks that stage fake bombings against the President as an excuse to crack down on their population.
They do the same stuff Bush does.
It came out that some of their top scientists had been going around selling key nuclear weapons components.
Or is being alleged to foreign countries?
Well, our government, ABB, board member, Rumsfeld, I mean, Clinton allowed it, but Rumsfeld did it, arming North Korea.
Laurel, Hughes, these big Republican contributors, going and arming China.
They've been in there helping build up Pakistan, which is just totally nuts.
I mean, Pakistan is more unstable and crazy than Iran or Syria.
I mean, they're good guys compared to these people.
And then it turns out, as usual, Greg Paulus, Best-selling author, a New York Times best-selling author of the best democracy money can buy, and BBC Newsnight investigative journalist, is Greg Pallast.
And turns out, con job, bush spike probe of Pakistan's nuclear mad scientist, and joining us is Greg Pallast.
Great to be with you again, Alex, and obviously what people are just hearing this week on CNN and the rest of the American media, they would have heard already on your program, because I remember speaking with you last, when my book was released in the USA, The Best Democracy Money Can Buy.
Thanks to your good work, by the way, it went to the New York Times Best Seller list.
But in that book at page 100, I just wanted to remind you we had spoken about the fact that Pakistan was giving out nuclear secrets.
I specifically named Dr. Khan, the Dr. Strange love of Pakistan, but there's something that has not been discussed on CNN that we discussed and I want to bring it back with a little extra.
In 2001, before the September 11th attack, our president's national security agencies ended, hindered, stopped the investigation of Dr. Khan, the Dr. Strangelove of Pakistan.
It was part of the same directive that came out of, and that was in the book, and we had discussed it.
What happened was, uh... i was sitting it was very chilling call i gotta tell you alex i was sitting in in bbc headquarters in london and despite our the recent attacks are still the the main uh... news outlet on this planet the biggest news network on the planet uh... and we got a call from inside of the national security apparatus of the of the uh... of our government the d i a c a complex and and a top operative told us
That investigations are being spiked and hindered.
See, the reason we got that call is that the FBI, just so you know the 199I story, that means a national security document, a secret document.
We got a hold of a fax, a copy of a secret document, which said that the investigation of the Bin Laden family in the United States, two members of that Bin Laden family, that FBI agents were not allowed to go ahead with that investigation until September 13, 2001, two days after the attack, and these guys, of course, had flown.
So, but, the FBI, just so you know, the FBI's response to us was not that it didn't, that this document wasn't authentic.
They have never, the FBI, given every opportunity, has never challenged the authenticity of the document.
What they said to us was, there are things we have to do for national security that the public may not understand.
Okay.
And so, I decided, well, I'd like to understand it, and their second excuse was that these were low-level agents.
Who basically had flipped these documents to us, and they didn't understand why they were pulled off the case.
You know, all I can tell you is what I got, which is the file that said you can't look at these members of the Bin Laden family in the United States until, of course, they've left after the attack.
Yeah, and what's very interesting is that when we got this call, you know, I said, look, he said that there was a major shift in U.S.
intelligence policy at the very top, this top operative, and he said it has hindered certain investigations.
This guy was like, you can imagine, intensely nervous, and we had his identity confirmed to us, By National Security News Service, which is a terrific investigations outfit.
And he said, look, and I said, look, you have to tell me specific investigations that were halted by this administration.
I can't just go on the air and say, even if I just say on the air that it's general, you have to tell me specifically what investigations were spiked.
And he said, Khan Labs.
Now, I have to tell you, I didn't know Khan Labs.
I thought he meant like something in Connecticut.
Then I look it up.
Khan Labs is Dr. Abdul Khan, A.Q.
Khan of Pakistan.
The Nuclear Manufacturing and Research Lab in Pakistan is called Khan Laboratories.
And as it turns out, what happened was they had stopped that investigation.
Now, why?
The answer is twofold.
First, Because our president was going steady with his dictator boss, this guy Pervez Musharraf, the dictator of Pakistan.
And we didn't want to annoy the dictator of Pakistan.
Even more, and this has not come out in the news again either, is that according to our intelligence services, the initial money, we know that Comms sold secrets to North Korea and to Libya and to Iran.
But the initial money appears to have come from Saudi Arabia for Pakistan to build the so-called Islamic bomb.
And our agents were telling us, all these agents at many levels were telling us, you cannot investigate Saudi Arabian financing of terror networks or nuclear proliferation.
You can't look at the Saudis.
Because that brings you back to the Bin Laden family, and when you get back to the Bin Laden family, you get back to the family Which has, you know, financially backed the Bush family.
Now, as you know, right now we have a very, very unusual situation, Alex.
So, first of all, obviously, this still hasn't come out.
So, first, our newspapers are saying, and I was just sickened, by the way, to watch CNN.
In fact, I even pulled the transcript because I thought it was just so amazing what they're telling us.
Oh, by the way, Bush began his speech yesterday, our president, by saying, I see my friend George Shultz, a distinguished public servant and true patriot, with us.
George Shultz, by the way, was the head of Bechtel Corporation.
Well, that's how you know he's a distinguished servant in True Patriot.
But he said also, Anyway, Brigham says, now we know that once the administration has established that everything was true regarding Pakistan's involvement in the bomb, they pressed the dictator Musharraf to crack down on this and deal with Dr. Khan.
No, they stopped it.
The only reason, by the way, the game blew up and became public, is this was a little game played by Qaddafi.
When he decides to switch sides and join together with the oil companies in America and kind of switch sides, now he's our dictator, right?
Well, that's what Saddam did, and they had special forces troops go into the UN office, steal, and this was on the news, grabbed, what, 8,000 pages of the documents, and then Saddam released another copy, and guess what?
And so what you have is I'm stunned at this, because we reported this just so you know, that this story about Dr. Khan and his bomb, and the story about the Bin Laden family as well, and spiking these investigations, this was page one news all over the planet, reported by BBC in November of 2001.
Over two years ago, just two months after the attack.
Yeah, in fact, actually, I got a University of California's journalism school gave BBC and the Guardian newspapers what's called a Project Censored Award for that story.
That means The Project Censored Award from the Journalism School means that you have reported one of the most important stories on the planet, but it wasn't shown in the USA.
It's like you're talking about 40 countries running this story.
I'm talking page one and not a word in the US.
And now we get Dr. Khan.
Oh, we found this bad guy.
But what they're leaving out is how come the Bush administration, which had this information, like I say, according to our information, they spiked the investigation, but they still had plenty on this guy.
And now that it's come out, they're going, oh boy, this is bad.
Let's do something.
We'll be right back.
Greg Powell, stay with us.
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Of investigative reporters that you can call mainstream, Greg Pallas
is the best the most prolific If you read his articles, his book, you'll find stuff out months, years before it finally trickles out in fragments in the mainstream media.
And really, it's just called old-fashioned work.
And, uh, you have our government knowing that Pakistan was proliferating nuclear weapons components, key stuff, and nothing goes on in that country that the government isn't sanctioning.
They're arming North Korea, North Korea's arming them, they're trying to sell stuff to Iran, everybody else.
And the military-industrial complex really likes this, folks.
It was our government that helped arm Russia.
Then they just burned the Rosenbergs as their patsies.
Because then they can have big weapons systems and keep the war going.
And that's what this is all about.
And Greg Pallast, years ago, in the BBC, put out these reports.
He put it out in his book on page 100.
His book he wrote a year ago came out nine months ago.
The Best Democracy Money Can Buy.
It's an excellent book, by the way.
This is scary.
Greg Palast, for those that just joined us that don't understand the players, boil it down for people in just a couple minutes what we're looking at and why this is so important because I don't want to just glaze over each one of these bombshell facts you've been laying out here.
And by the way, I want to thank you because while I am on the biggest network on the planet, my stuff is virtually blacked out in the United States except on your program.
And so I really appreciate this opportunity to bring the information that's page one everywhere else on the planet.
I really thank you and I hope people realize how special and important this is to have this different outlet, which is not.
I mean, Alex has not been afraid to let me report all the news that I discover.
Now, I should mention, so to begin with, in November of 2001, FBI agents Came to us at BBC television and the research groups you're working with, CIA, DIA officials, low-level, high-level, many, all complaining about the same thing.
That after, that before September 11th, they were not allowed to really hunt down terror networks and their alliances in the United States itself and in Pakistan and most particularly the connections back to Saudi Arabia and the Bin Laden family and other Saudi funders of terror.
Now, you have to understand, and what they said was, when we were asked what specific investigations were killed, we were told one, the investigation killed the bin Laden family members in the United States, and the second, Khan Laboratories, which is basically running a carpet bazaar in nuclear secrets out of Pakistan.
And again, because the idea was not to disturb the Saudi money, Connection.
Now, one thing that should be very important and part of this discussion, the victims of September 11th, their families, the families of the victims of the September 11th attack, have sued the Defense Minister of Saudi Arabia for funding these characters.
This is the same guy that our information says was funding first Saddam Hussein and then later Pakistan to build an atomic bomb.
His lawyer, His lawyer is a guy named James Baker III, who is also the senior counsel to Carlisle Group, who is also counsel to ExxonMobil Oil Corporation.
Former Secretary of State and counsel to George Bush, our president, in the Florida election count.
He now has an office, this man who represents the Saudi Arabian Defense Ministry, Exxon, He has an office at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue given to him by our President.
This is the first in American history in which a foreign agent and oil company lobbyist is given a desk in the White House.
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And the reason this is allowed to happen, just so you know, I mean, a strange subterfuge... Yeah, at least Clinton did it with the Chinese spies down the road at the Commerce Department.
Right, right, what you want to do is keep them off-site.
And in fact, if you remember, Henry Kissinger had to run away from the September 11th Committee because he wouldn't reveal his clients or get rid of his conflicts.
So why hasn't James Baker been required to do the same?
And the answer is, he has been tech-appointed to so-called reorganize Iraq's debts for the Iraqis, right?
They didn't ask for it, though.
But technically, he wasn't appointed by our President, but appointed by the puppet government that our President has installed in Iraq.
So, he does not have to go through a Senate confirmation hearing.
He doesn't have to reveal his conflicts.
He doesn't have to end his conflicts.
He still represents Saudi Arabia against the victims of September 11th.
And he's got an office in the White House.
In the meantime, our agencies are still covering for the fact that this madman, Dr. Strangelove, Dr. Khan of Pakistan, was in fact being funded by Uh, by the Saudis.
So anyway, I've got to get off because I have another call I have to make.
This is Greg Pallis reporting for Alex Jones.
What a pleasure.
By the way, I've got a new CD out with this information, and Alex, I'm going to talk to you about that and maybe tell people about that tomorrow, okay?
We'll come back and take your calls, get into this, and cover more.
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So we do have time to give you your calls.
We're about to go to Moroccan Michael and Joe, Tom, Ron, and many others that are patiently holding But again, hidden in plain view, they protect Pakistan, they protect the fact that they're proliferating nukes.
Pakistan's got them.
I mean, the uranium, the parts, all of it.
Bush is hooked in with the Karwal Group, the Bin Ladens, the Saudi Royalty doing all this.
And meanwhile, they go into Iraq for somebody that doesn't have, you know, 5% of what Pakistan's got.
And we're setting this precedent where all these other countries can have nukes.
North Korea, Pakistan, Israel, everybody else, South Africa, you know, they got nukes?
One thing that's accurate in the movie Skulls, and again this is admitted, is they have a room called the War Room, and this was built 172 years ago, folks.
They have a room, and on the wall is war, and they pray to Satan that they believe Lucifer's God to give them power as captains, as kings, as pirates, to wage war upon the cattle.
And we're all seen as the cattle.
And they have these war chants they do.
And yes, it's all about war.
And you've got these district relations.
They say third cousins.
Lord Bush, And Lord Kerry, in the same secret society, both with the same answer, so secret we can't talk about it, this proves it's WWF wrestling, Shakespearean theater, there is no presidential election, you can forget the electronic voting machines, that doesn't even matter, because the two candidates are from the same generational cult.
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Yes, and I think that it'll probably be Kerry, because that will deflect some of the stuff that's slowly coming out about Bush.
Well, they could have produced them any time they wanted to.
They tried to bring out fake examples, but it was so shoddy they got caught.
And a lot of that is because the troops aren't evil.
And they don't have a lot of ground operators.
The globalists control the big banks and the media and systems.
They don't control the rank and file.
They have to control them through brainwashing.
And it just doesn't seem to be working.
And there's so many people in NSA, Defense Intelligence, FBI, CIA that are good, but are leaking all this.
That's why they haven't moved faster.
They're in a lot of trouble.
We're in this fight.
I mean, it's down to the 12th round, heavyweight boxing, the people against the New World Order, both sides have got eyes full shut, blood pouring out, loose teeth, and I'm telling you, we better fire up and fight even harder and just, you know, to win this thing or we're about to get KO'd.
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Well, they are definitely winning, and credit to you for the good work you're doing.
I just wonder, you know, do those weapons of mass destruction exist?
And by the way, he's been in there two months and nine days now, and he was arrested.
They told us on the phone, the district attorney's office, or county attorney, excuse me, they said that he was arrested for trespassing, and then he did something in the jail for a destruction of property charge.
Again, and then they've been doing some type of psychological evaluation, and two months and nine days for trespassing.
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Yeah, so I was told by this man, I don't know if he was lying or not, but I was told that he was going to have some kind of a court hearing around the end of the week.
Drug Enforcement agent, with guns drawn in full view of his family members, Mistakenly restrained and took down John Baker, who is a criminal justice investigator and police investigator, next executive board member of the Oklahoma City NAACP.
This was all a big mistake.
They were looking for somebody else, but they took this guy down and stole a few of his family.
Well, you know what's happening more and more is a cop's daughter in Texas Goes to Miami for vacation, gets raped by cops, uh, you know, a politician's wife at the, um, big Michigan Detroit airport, uh, has her $10,000 diamond necklace grabbed by a laughing, uh, you know, uh, foreigner, uh, who's at a security station.
I mean, this is all happening.
And it's happening more and more and more.
So, these guys are getting their own medicine.
And, uh, you know, I'm too bad it's happening to them, but, you know, this is what goes on.
Also, Alex, when you tell a lie, make it big, repeat it often, and most People will believe it, and that certainly seems to be what the government is doing now.
We'll come back to Ron in New York and Sean and Chris and Tim and others.
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In our local newspaper, New York Newsday here in New York, in the early part of this month, there was an article in there written by a man, an investigative journalist named Curtis Taylor.
It dealt with how municipal pension funds, of which I'm a member of, may have been depositing, the local control in New York City may have been depositing money in banks that turned around and gave Saddam Hussein credit throughout the years.
And he said yes, and that the control of New York City was now addressing that problem.
However, in the course of that conversation, he told me that in his investigation, it came out, he was chuckling as he was saying it, because he thought it was, you know, so outrageous in a way, it's like, how could people be so stupid?
American businessmen, American businessmen, since the first Gulf War, formed offshore corporations.
And they were doing business with Saddam Hussein right up to the last minute.
Look, for those that just joined us, everything that our caller, Ron, is saying, I already have the mainstream news articles on it.
The average person just never hears about it.
Let me explain the magnitude of this.
The way the sanctions were written by the Security Council, controlled by the bankers in New York, was that Saddam couldn't buy anything or sell anything but through them, namely Dick Cheney and James Baker and just a few dozen others.
And so right up until a month before the invasion, during the troop buildup, during the troop buildup, He could only buy oil filled equipment, weapons components, you name it, from Dick Cheney and others.
And then they stand up and talk about how evil Saddam is and how anybody who trades with the enemy has got to be arrested.
And there they are, whether it's Al Qaeda, Saddam, Pakistan, everything.
And the funny part about it is, Alex, instead of them checking out these so-called American businessmen, they're hassling young guys who are jogging across a crosswalk and worried about the patriotism of simple people like that and old grannies and so forth.
Now, the second story I have is from a civil service journal here in New York called The Chief.
The New York City Council voted, 36 to 13 with one abstention, to pass a resolution Calling for the United States Congress to repeal certain aspects of the Patriot Act.
They had a rally when they announced the result of this vote, and at this rally was a woman who belongs to a group called Peaceful Tomorrow.
It's an anti-war group which consists of families of people killed in the September 11th attack.
This woman in particular, Adelaide Welty, her son was a fireman, killed in the Twin Towers.
She indicated that the administration is using American fears of further terrorist attacks, and this is a quote, to push its agenda for regime change abroad and repression at home.
And this is what this woman said.
I think it's time that we have to take heed to what's going on.
And lastly, Alex, I'd just like to mention, maybe it would be a great guest to have on your show.
It's a male-female, uh, group.
They're on the Pacifica Network.
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Now, I have gone to the METCHA website, I've read their quotes, I've shown video of them with signs of people, white people's heads cut off, saying, we're gonna kill the white man.
Now I've gone out and bullhorned the Klan, and I've gone out and bullhorned METCHA.
And last time I checked, I didn't see white people starting groups called The Race.
La Raza.
I mean, this is getting to be out of control.
And this political correctness that if you criticize, you know, groups... I mean, Khalid Mohammed says, kill all white people, kill all white women, kill all babies.
I've played the clip here many times.
Every nine months, a white woman lays down on her back and out rolls reinforcement.
Why do you say, kill a little blue-eyed baby?
Because that little white devil's gonna grow up and we gotta kill them all!
What I'm saying here is the problem... All I know is when I'm eating somewhere, the Mexicans... Could I speak just a moment?
Hold on a second, hold on a second.
I talk just like this on my TV show, here in Austin, and all I know is, is that I, every time I eat at a Mexican food restaurant, my food's paid for.
Okay?
I mean, I just, look, look, Mexicans who are patriotic and American know I'm telling the truth, because they're around it.
And that's, that's the truth, my friend.
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Okay, if I could speak just a little bit.
Okay, go ahead, talk.
Your statements about the racism and all of this sort of stuff that, you know, is anti-American, you're reflecting only a minority of the Mexican attitude that's been inspired by U.S.
Spanish and Mexican land grants for land there would be honored by the American government.
That is, those who held the land would also be able to hold it under American provision.
The first thing that happened as soon as it was taken over, and it took some time, but as soon as we moved in there... Make your point, I've got to move on.
They started taking the land back from these people.
The other thing that I want to make, one other point.
Is that we have messed in Central American and Mexican politics negatively ever since this country has been in existence.
It's a tiny fraction, just a few hundred families that own almost all of it.
Okay, now in Mexico you can come up here and own land.
And what you just said isn't true because in South Texas, almost all the richest families in Southwest Texas all have Spanish surnames and they were Tejanos.
And they own the businesses, they own hundreds of thousands of acres.
It's just not true.
Now, were there range wars?
Did white people get run off land?
Did Mexicans get run off land?
Absolutely.
That did go on, and that happened to everybody.
But Mexico, and most of the Mexicans I talk to who are illegals, and my wife speaks Spanish, she speaks German, she speaks French, she speaks it all.
Because her dad was a diplomat, she grew up in Europe.
You know, she hears the comments.
She knows what's going on.
I'm not talking about, you know, the Mexican peasants, the hard-working, you know, nice Christian people.
I'm talking about those out of the colleges and the people that are out there organizing and printing up the comic books and all the stuff that puts out this lie.
That's what I'm saying.
And Mexico, you know, the French, The Russians tried to claim part of this country.
Everybody was grabbing it.
It belonged to the Indians.
It didn't, you know, Native Americans.
It didn't belong to Mexico.
It didn't belong to us.
And for Mexico to say the Southwest belongs to them, and to have South Texas towns flying the Mexican flag and no American flag, and saying you can't speak English in court proceedings, and the documents are in Spanish, that's wrong!
And there's a Lurican Quista going on!
A reconquering!
And that New York runs it because they want to break this country up.
Now, that's the fact.
Is Latin America mad because the CIA overthrows their governments and kills people in death squads?
By the way, I was listening to your previous caller, and I'd like to make just a couple points on that.
First of all, the land grants were not revoked.
In Colorado and New Mexico, there are large land grants.
That predate these territories being annexed into the United States.
One of them that comes to mind is the Baca land grant.
And so, I really didn't quite follow what the caller was saying on that.
Now, I think that he did make two good points.
I think that one of the points he was trying to make was that the government, that the people down there can probably distinguish the difference between the government and the people.
And then I would make one other point.
In my travels in Mexico, what I found was that, especially the border towns, and then the large cities like Mexico City, man, I'll tell you what, there's some of those people that'll kill you for two pesos in your pocket.
And then you get out in the rural areas, and they are some of the kindest people that you will ever meet.
It's just been my observation that when you get into the large cities, and of course that's probably true here in the United States too, you get into the large cities and people tend to be a little bit more keyed up than country folk.
But for me it was absolutely stark, the difference.
My first impression of Mexico was the border town.
And it scared me to death, and I got down in there 500,000 miles down, and I could not believe how kind and genuine and good-natured these people were.
And I think that you made a good point, also, with respect to the government systems.
Unfortunately, in Latin America, there's always been a patronage system, where when somebody gets into office, the first people they take care of is family.
And unfortunately, that breeds corruption.
And God bless those people that live under those governmental systems that have patronage down there.
That's one thing that we have not had to deal with here in the United States.
And I think that's one of the reasons why we have been so prosperous.
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Everybody stay right there.
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Okay, I'm going to modify the specials specifically because of the nuclear maneuvers that Russia is going to be doing starting the next week.
Have you briefed your audience on that?
I mentioned it in the first hour, but yeah, they're doing nuclear attack drills and... Basically, they're going to be launching intercontinental ballistic missiles, shooting missiles off from submarines.
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Well, everybody should have potassium iodide, because how many Austinites know they have a pretty good-sized nuclear reactor, an old one, at UT?
No one seems to know that.
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So-called terrorists could attack it.
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Well, I think that you just made a good point, Alex, that government agencies across the United States are stockpiling potassium iodate, and somehow the people themselves are being left out.
And if you don't want to be dependent upon some government agency to be kind enough to pass it out to you before a nuclear event, uh... then you really ought to do with the government is
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I'll tell you what, stay there, you're making a good point.
We have hereditary mafia, wasp mafia, out of the East Coast, right where you're sitting in Rhode Island, and they're ruthless, and they're destroying America.
And they're a global organized crime syndicate.
That's what the new rule order is.
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Stay there, I'll let you finish up, Sean.
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Russia notified the United States on Tuesday that it has launched war games that involve the test launch of intercontinental missiles and flights by its heavy nuclear bombers.
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And by the way, about a year ago, the BBC reported they put all the red stars and peppers and sickles back on the aircraft and tanks.
That's our little friends.
But don't worry, we've got all the colleges watched and the borders open and citizens being tracked and traced.
Don't worry.
Pakistan's arming everyone.
Our government's armed North Korea, but again, don't worry, just give your rights up, let the police wear black ski masks and put cameras up in the schools.
Going back to Sean in Rhode Island, yeah, the New World Order is a handful of families who run their own hereditary organized crime syndicates over different sectors of the economy, and they have their own little criminal gangs that work for them, and it's the same psychology.
Go ahead and finish up, Sean.
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Yeah, basically I just want to Take that and let that be out in the open for people who was blind to the fact of that.
I just really wanted to call to put out a couple little things here.
And I just want to make this other, two more points and I'm going to let you be.
I want to let you people know, if you ever look to America for something, look at this.
There's gangs in America.
There's Bloods, there's Crips, there's all kinds of gangs.
Somebody shoots somebody who's somebody's family member.
There's going to be a retaliation.
America is the same way.
But ain't nobody killed anybody that belongs to America.
If somebody drops a bomb in Pakistan, America's going to go over there and show them who the real killers are.
Well, I know in Alabama they've been burning up all the old chemical weapons shells, but I...
No, I don't know.
I need some information.
I mean, I think they should tell us.
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I have called WTVD 11, one of the local television stations here, and I'm supposed to be able to get video footage of that through that, or through their organization.
Now, here locally, about 40 miles northeast of Raleigh, there about, Camp Butner, an old World War II Camp Butner, It's for the most part shut down now.
It has really no military use available to it now at this point in time.
We are turning up, I guess, on an average of about 50 to 75 shells per year that were buried there for training during World War II.
Now, you know, that in and of itself is bad enough being that The local economy here for a little while was seemingly good in terms of people being able to refinance and build homes and that kind of thing.
And also, I was reading somewhere where, first of all, I loved your video when you went in and you asked GW about The Federal Reserve and the Council on Foreign Relations when they kidnapped you?
This weekend, we are going to be going around to the different tax preparers, and we're going to have little cards, and we're going to be handing them out to people going into the tax preparers that ask them to ask their tax preparer Where does it say we have to pay?
Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Four simple questions.
And I would encourage other people to do that, too, around their area, because it's public property.
I mean, this crowd does not... Well, yeah, in 1973 the IMF told the, what was it, the 50 most populous third world countries, they told them, you have to sterilize half your women forcibly or no more IMF or World Bank money.
So absolutely.
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That's right and that's just one example of many and how these loans are made and I mean it's an extortion in my book.
Well they take our money that's fiat to begin with, backed up by our debt, then they go give it to dictators, tell them, and this has come out in World Bank and IMF documents, not to pay it back, they sign contracts signing the people, the land, the resources over to the globalists.
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Bingo!
You got it.
And these people can't understand why People are very upset with Americans.
I mean, these globalists need to be put on notice.
And then it's the same bankers funding the textbooks and the comic books and the pamphlets in Mexico saying the Southwest belongs to Mexico.
Because they want to use these people to break the country down when they're the ones raping them.
That's the point I was trying to make earlier.
Who was he?
Richard from Texas?
All right, let me dive, and I mean dive, into the news here in the last 15 minutes as promised.
More news, then I'll recap some of the top stories at the very end of the show.
CNN money.
Jobless claims rise.
New weekly claims for unemployment come in unexpectedly higher than Wall Street forecast.
Now remember, two million people in the last three weeks have gone off their unemployment roll.
They're no longer counted as unemployed.
And then Bush says, oh, less unemployment.
New job claims rose in the United States last week.
The Labor Department said 363,000 people filed new claims for state unemployment benefits.
And the week that ends, February 7th, up from a reversed three revised, excuse me, 357,000, the prior week economists on average expected 345,000 new claims according to the briefing.
The four-week moving average of new claims, which irons out the volatility of the weekly data, rose to $350,500 from a revised $345,500 the prior week.
Continued claims, the number of people out of work for a week or more, fell to $3.08 million for the week ending January 31st.
the prior week continued claims the number of people
out of work for a week or more fell to three point zero eight million
or the week ending january thirty first uh... the latest data available from the revised three
point one million the prior week
so they're saying only a few hundred thousand people
Unemployment's gone down by a few hundred thousand, but then we've got millions going off the rolls as they cook the books.
This is out of the Herald Tribune, Associated Press, South Carolina, Columbia, South Carolina.
Panel approves plan to monitor all prescription drug sales.
Now again, all over the country, the Pharmacies are already doing this, but now they're codifying it state by state, but it's federally funded.
The state would maintain a database of prescription drugs sold in the state, and who bought them under a measure a House budget panel approved Wednesday?
House Majority Leader Rick Quinn, Republican Columbia, won approval for the database as a Way and Means Committee wrapped up a work on temporary law changes that will be put on the state budget.
Quinn told a panel that the database operated by the State Department of Health and Environmental Control would help cut down prescription drug abuses.
For instance, he said, police would be able to catch people who visit multiple doctors for treatment of the same malady and get prescription drugs and then resell them.
The legislation affects Schedule II through V-drugs, those are the harshest legal narcotics, such as morphine, down to cough syrups and codeine.
So there you go.
It seems very overreaching for the government to be tracking prescription drugs use of all health care recipients in our state, said Sue Berkowitz, Executive Director of the South Carolina Legal Justice Center.
The budget amendment says different groups could access the data.
Pharmacists for the prescriptions they issue, patients for the prescriptions they receive, state regulators investigating pharmacists, grand jury for the subpoena, law officers investigating abuse of illegal drugs.
Of legal drugs, excuse me.
So now police without a warrant, just a big database, that cop doesn't like you next door, wants to find out what's going on, just type it right into the database.
Oh, that's just what they're telling you about it.
Quinn's proposal requires no subpoena or warrant for law enforcement access for the information people who Uh, improperly disclosed data information face a fine of more than $5,000.
Law-abiding citizens should not have their records gone through just because law enforcement wants to check them, Berkowitz said.
Has nothing to do with terrorism, but it's all part of the terrorism of the globalists, centralizing control, part of the matrix system.
And that's not a movie, that's the system.
Uh, senators push two-year internet tax ban.
That's good news.
Now, U.S.
Senators opposed to a bill to permanently ban Internet access taxes.
See, it sounds good on the surface.
Unveiled rival legislation on Wednesday for a temporary tax moratorium that would not threaten state and local revenues.
Folks, there's not a tax on a Sears Roebuck catalog.
They say, oh, well, any other new catalog, anything out of state, you've got to pay taxes.
And a lot of companies are already doing it.
Very bad.
And can you imagine having to keep track of that?
Just amazing.
Feds back off case targeting anti-war activists.
Civil liberties groups Tuesday hailed the withdrawal of subpoenas issued last week before peace activists by federal prosecutors in Des Moines, Iowa as a significant victory, but instead the government must explain why they were issued in the first place.
That's what they're busy doing as Pakistan runs around arming everyone and Bush orders the FBI not to investigate.
And, uh, Ripken blames security services for his absence, Associated Press, the Russian presidential candidate Ivan Ripken, ...tried yesterday to end the discussion surrounding his five-day disappearance.
In an interview with the Echo of Moscow Radio, the Kremlin hinted that the blame lay on the security services for indirectly frightening him into hiding and for not telling the country where he was.
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Oh, this pig lard to stop terror attacks.
Rabbinical authorities have given the idea its approval on the grounds that it could be a life-saving measure, even though pigs are considered impure to Jews, as well as Muslims, and they're talking about putting pig lard in schools everywhere.
Bags of pig lard.
I've read the French did this.
I'd like to hear from some Muslims.
Maybe the Mara.
Is it true that you're so afraid of a pig that that's true?
Because I've read that and heard that.
I guess it is true.
That's amazing.
Rumsfeld draws back on Blair's 45-minute claim, ABC News.
He now says, I don't remember the statement being made, to be perfectly honest, where I'm still at the Pentagon News Conference.
So he's now basically saying he never said that.
I've got him on video.
I had VCRs running for weeks leading up to the Iraq War, during the Iraq War.
Just more, I don't remember saying that.
Never said that.
Pentagon cooking the casualty counts.
American Free Press, there's a lot of mainstream articles on this.
It's in the thousands.
It's in the thousands in Iraq, it's in the thousands in Afghanistan, and it's in the hundreds worldwide, in the hundreds in the Philippines.
French lawmakers strike over a criminal justice bill, and French lawyers went on strike Wednesday as a permanent Parliament prepared to enact a new criminal justice law that many fear would undermine civil liberties and strengthen police powers, lengthening detention periods and introducing plea bargaining.
And they're basically enacting the same police state measures that England and the US are.
It's the same thing worldwide.
The French aren't against the globalists.
They're all in it together.
So that's serious as well.
I'm out of time.
Boy, that show just exploded Right past us, we'll be back tonight, 9 to midnight, Central Standard Time, right here on this same fine station you're listening to us on, whether it's AM, FM, shortwave, internet.
And we've got more great guests coming up tomorrow and some huge guests that we've lined up for next week.
So thank you for listening to this live Thursday edition, the 12th of February, 2004.
And thanks to our affiliates, our sponsors, our listeners, and number one, God.
And please help us get the word out and fight the globalists and realize that we don't have a choice.
I guess we do.
Submit to this and be slaves or stand up and fight it.
I know that giving in to tyrants only makes it worse.
So let's stand up and be part of history and defend this republic from enemies foreign and domestic.
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