Alex Jones and Bev Harris expose alleged military-industrial election fraud, claiming Lockheed Martin and Northrop Grumman manipulate Diebold touchscreen machines to rig races like Chuck Hagel's Nebraska victory. They detail a secret SAIC teleconference linking Pentagon contractors to PR fixes for software flaws, while promoting documentaries on 9-11 tyranny and microchip enslavement. The broadcast alleges the ultra-wealthy, including Warren Buffett and Larry Ellison, drive government expansion to crush citizens, culminating in a broader conspiracy where the New World Order uses cryptography to replace paper ballots and suppress dissent against totalitarian control. [Automatically generated summary]
I tell you, my friends, it just seems like yesterday.
Thought it was Monday.
Seems like it was yesterday that I was a little child, but time flies past us, doesn't it?
It's already Friday, the 19th of September, 2003.
I'm Alex Jones, your host.
We're going to be live here for the next three hours.
We're going to talk about a bunch of news, very important stuff as we chronicle the criminal activities of the global elite, also known as the New World Order.
And of course, we've got some updates on the family up in Michigan as well, that we'll be getting to after this first break.
And I'm going to get into, well, the rich got richer, the poor got poorer during this recession.
That's right!
Big profits for the elite!
But not for you.
I thought it was the whole economy was in trouble, and the rich people wanted us to have a good economy.
Well, I mean, the average American thinks of rich as somebody who's got a couple million bucks in the bank.
Folks, that's middle class.
The real money people do it through collusion with government, through insider knowledge, through manipulation.
Talking about on the grand scale.
You're not allowed to get big unless you're in their arena.
And they're not free market.
They control the communists.
They control the fascists.
They control big government as their tool.
More on Wesley Clark.
Just a lot coming up today.
But I do have to admit this here on air.
And I'm somebody who'll admit something when I do it.
I've gotten bad again about cutting people off and running over people and getting all sped up and excited on air.
And frankly, I was listening to a rebroadcast of my show.
Rude to people.
It's not personal.
I've been very upset about what's happening.
This stuff is really getting to me.
And by getting to me, it makes me very angry.
I just wish that I was better at fighting it, more articulate.
Yes, a larger staff, ways to really address this and to have the energy to go over it.
I mean, half the time, I don't even want to read a news article because it's so horrible.
I don't even want to think about it or address it or analyze it.
And we run out of time here.
And so when you hear me frustrated with listeners, it's generally more frustrated with myself.
But we're going to have open phones today and we're going to go to them early.
I always say this and then half the time, don't do it.
But really, I want to load the phones up.
And I want to take a lot of calls today on the show.
Open line Friday, wide open telephones, any news item, any news story in your local paper, national paper, you saw on television, propaganda, you saw on a sitcom or a cartoon or a billboard.
And it's everywhere, folks.
I mean, I can't track it all.
Give us a call, tell us about it, or what you think the greatest threat is we're facing, what do you think is going to happen with North Korea and the Chinese troops now massing on the border with North Korea and Japan threatening to attack North Korea and North Korea threatening to attack Japan and just this global escalation.
There's a lot of different issues we can discuss.
George Bush, Wesley Clark, who's going to be on the tickets here in the 2004 election?
Call free number to join us on air on this Friday, this live Friday edition.
And of course, all these guys have CIA connections in their past.
If you look at the last, what, ten?
Heads of the New York Stock Exchange, they were all at least deputy directors in their past of the Central Intelligence Agency, and I'm looking at a AFP photo from 1999 of Richard Grasso, head of the New York Stock Exchange, hugging the head of the communist FARC guerrillas.
He went down there, it's not illegal, and they told him, invest your money in the Stock Exchange or you're going to be invaded.
And when the FARC said, no, we're not going to invest in the Stock Exchange, the invasion began.
Now, somebody will say, what are you, defending the FARC?
No, the FARC are evil.
They kidnap people.
They deal drugs.
They're a bunch of trash.
They're not communists.
They're not fascists.
They're not libertarians.
They're just thugs, folks.
All these terms are just meant to confuse.
They're just thugs in military outfits saying, I got a machine gun.
I'm the boss.
And they got control of about a third of Some of those countries down there in Colombia and the communist guerrillas have got different portions of some of the other nations down there and they grow their drugs and those are the areas that get sprayed.
The government of the United States does not spray the other areas.
It's because you have the so-called right-wing governments in control of those sectors and they grow the coca plants, they grow the poppies, they grow the marijuana, they grow it all and ship it up here.
Mainly narcotics, though.
Not a lot of marijuana is being grown down in Central and South America.
A lot of it is being grown, of course, in Mexico and right here in the United States.
More of it grown here in the United States for consumption.
It's the biggest cash crop, the actual plant grown here in the country.
Bigger than wheat, when you talk about the profits.
There's now a kilo of marijuana.
Yeah, a kilo is, in some cases, more expensive than cocaine.
Did you know that?
It's just amazing, folks.
So I want to get into that because it's something we haven't focused on enough.
And of course, there's also General Leslie Clark.
And he announced this four or five days ago now that he was planning to run for the presidency.
He's now the tenth candidate.
We've got the ten horsemen, all just a collection of unabated trash and gun-grabbing evil.
I mean, that's the only way to describe them.
Abortion, pushing, Socialistic liberals.
You know, to use that outdated term.
But, I mean, Wesley Clark isn't just pro-abortion and a Rhodes Scholar and roommates with Bill Clinton, and they don't have the same New World Order indoctrination programs under British intelligence.
This guy, also from Arkansas, living in Arkansas, and a late-arriving candidate got push from the Clintons!
And, uh, this is out of the New York Times.
Oh, of course, this is their little buddy.
Washington, September 18th.
Behind General Leslie K. Clark's candidacy for the White House is a former president fanning the flames.
And I wonder if Hillary's gonna be as running mate.
And all these people that know Bush is anti-gun, and know he's rubbing borders, and know he's increasing the size of government, Department of Education, everything else, protecting Bill Clinton with Farnon Gate and all that, I mean, the thinking process is going to get shut off when we've got just absolute hobgoblins like Hillary.
I mean, just unbelievably, overtly wicked.
And Wesley Clark, who's not just a, you know, what you call a liberal, he's also a warmonger.
But the globalists really love him.
I mean, NATO had to restrain him, ladies and gentlemen.
The British General had to restrain him.
He wanted to attack the Russians in Pristina, which is exactly what the Russians wanted.
You think the Russian government cares if fighter bombers went in there and splattered those tanks all over that runway?
Remember the capital, the state capital there in Kosovo of the greater Serbia?
The Globals were taking those key minerals, the Russians poured in, and Clark wanted to go to war.
I mean, he's just running out, war, war, kill, kill.
These guys are something else.
And it's real easy for him to be these armchair quarterbacks and march everybody off to World War III.
I mean, he's really a neocon.
If you study Wesley Clark, he's a neocon.
So he is quite a character and is really the most formidable candidate.
It's not Dean, it's not Mr. Skull and Bones Kerry, though Kerry has been the frontrunner all along.
I don't know, what do you think about that issue?
I mean, really, I don't even know why we should discuss it.
I mean, it just shows we got Skull and Bones members, we got NATO people, Rhodes Scholar, you know, it's just all these guys have got New World Order baggage in their closet.
By the way, on InfoWars.com we found another article in the San Francisco Chronicle I would guess it's on presentplanet.com, where they talk about how Schwarzenegger's campaign is, quote, run like a Bohemian Grove toga party.
There's always these little jokes about the Grove in these West Coast newspapers.
By the way, I was attacked by the New York Times, what, a couple years ago, two years ago, for Alex Jones believes in the Bohemian Grove.
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha But you've got all these neocon listeners that just don't get it, and you try to tell them the truth, and they just can't compete with it.
It's too scary.
Okay, well you're flushing your children's future right down the toilet.
Of course, I'm glad that not too many people have been killed by the hurricane.
It did dissipate quite a bit.
Slammed in yesterday.
And the hurricane hits U.S.
lashing North Carolina and portions of other states.
Lots of images of reporters out in, you know, 80, 100 mile an hour winds being blown around, and pieces of trees hitting them, and folks, of course, drowned.
Virginia and Path of Fury turns to the north, and faded on radar, but still fierce on the ground, Hurricane Isabel.
Crashed ashore in North Carolina yesterday, swamping neighborhoods dozens of miles inland and raging through Virginia to the nation's capital with high winds knocking out power and disrupting air travel across the mid-Atlantic region.
Storms popped sustained winds of 105 miles an hour, snapped old oaks and pines like Waterlogged toothpicks on the outer banks in North Carolina where the storm made landfall about 1 p.m.
Isn't that interesting?
It sent dumpsters floating past stranded trucks along the four-lane highway and parts of at least two hotels and several homes sliding into the wild sea.
And 160 mile an hour winds that were recorded as it moved across the open ocean, the hurricane was still the strongest hurricane to hit the Atlantic coast since Hurricane Floyd surged the shore in 1999.
Yeah, it slowed down to like 100 miles an hour, 80 miles an hour, which is really a blessing that that happened.
Because if that thing would have hit the East Coast at 160 miles an hour, Whoa!
You know, a hurricane hit Galveston.
It's the biggest disaster in U.S.
history.
When they say September 11th is the biggest terrorist attack or biggest disaster, I hear them say that all the time, disaster.
That is a lie!
It was terrible, but over six and a half thousand people died in what, 1903?
I don't remember.
I've been down to the museum in Galveston.
I mean, it like killed a third of the people.
The town wasn't very big then.
It just slaughtered masses of, I mean, six and plus thousand.
I think it was almost 7,000.
And these things are deadly.
I mean, if a hurricane hits you going 160 miles an hour, you're talking about complete devastation.
But it slowed down, so we should all be very thankful for that.
A lot of other weird stuff going on.
Yesterday I mentioned that Rocky Mountain News article where it said 35,000 people in Colorado could have it because of the percentage of those that are having blood tests done that have it.
You know, blood tests for giving blood at the blood banks.
What about that?
That's incredible.
And also, this is out of the business section of the Associated Press here, out of the Statesman.
We do have a guest coming up, a great guy, Mr. Blood, to talk about some interesting
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They're just out there on the high seas of maritime, feeding on people.
That's why the Skull & Bones logo is the pirate, you know, the Jolly Roger.
They have little corporate songs about it.
They write books about, you know, Attila the Hun, business policies.
The neocons say, we're pirates.
And so it's just lawlessness, but lawlessness over you.
Just wanton abuse and usurping your freedom and your substance, as the Founding Fathers said.
To the left-wing goes, oh, we counter the big corporations with big government.
They'll get them for us.
And that's exactly what the big corporations are lobbying for, is bigger government, more draconian power, because that's all selectively enforced against you, the serf.
They're not communists, they're not fascists, they're not...
No, the true term is they're feudal lords over you.
They're feudal chattel.
We've got to learn to say, no, we're not your chattel.
We're not, you know, 21st century Romans, okay?
We've got to stop acting like 21st century Romans.
And you know, I know it's easy to be a 21st century Roman.
With all the sex, and the drugs, and the ball games, and the rest of it, you get sucked into it real easy.
But it'll destroy you, my friends.
I mean, I look at this, it's disgusting.
Warren Buffett.
Here's the headline.
Associated Press.
U.S.
rich got richer in 2003, Forbes says.
Net worth, the wealthiest 400, grew by 10% from 2002 magazine figures.
And by the way, these rich people, they hide about 98% of their wealth, okay?
And when they say that Forbes increased his wealth, By Forbes Magazine's reporting that Bill Gates increases wealth by $3 billion.
I mean, Bill Gates is a Johnny-come-lately.
The Rockefeller family, in old 1902 news articles I have pulled up, was worth tens of billions of dollars.
Well, let me just tell you something.
Tens of billions of dollars in 1902 or 1903 is the equivalent of ten trillion dollars.
Three trillion dollars today.
I mean, these numbers are just off the charts, but their money's all tax-free.
The so-called breakup of the trust Was these people going, oh, you've gotten us, you've broken up our trust, now we're tax-free!
Now we have these big tax-free foundations that will now take over the universities and the media!
Ha ha ha!
We don't pay taxes anymore!
Oh, I don't own anything, I'm David Rockefeller, I just have 50 helicopters and 50 jets and servants all over the place and giant palaces everywhere, but they're all part of the foundations!
The foundations that take federal tax money and steal people's land!
Just on and on and on!
And so the left thinks you counter the corrupt corporations with big government.
That's like somebody's beating you in the head with a hammer and you go, here, let me give you a .45 Magnum.
.44 Magnum.
Better beat me in the head with that ball-peen hammer.
How about you blow my head off?
Let me give you some more power.
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And then the phony neocons get up there and go, everyone with money is good.
And I don't know if you have a tech person or somebody who might walk me through the process, or... Well, yeah, I authorize and ask listeners, I ask you to make copies of my videos and DVDs and stuff.
I'm not a very technical person.
I know people Our burning copies of We're Going to Tyranny on DVD, two discs.
The problem is, they have to encode it at a lower resolution.
That's a 170 minute film on one disc.
It's a double layer encoded system, so you can't put that by the normal burning process on a CD.
You can break it in half and burn it on two CDs, maybe.
So, the people that are able to burn that 170-minute film to one CD are lowering the resolution by about 80%.
Really?
Yeah, I've seen them.
It's not bad.
People can watch it.
It's like a book with some images, basically.
It gets a little fuzzy here and there, but that's why my DVDs, for every hundred that go out, maybe one or two don't work.
It's just that somebody's DVD player doesn't work because it It's an older one and can't handle a double layer or with a double layer sometimes you have just wear compatibility problems.
Like I rented a movie the other week.
It was a double layer DVD instead of having two discs.
It was a mainstream movie.
and uh... violent movie overcome any watch it again to new york i had no idea
He does consulting for some middle-sized medical companies.
People call them huge medical companies.
And it's all about uniform commercial code.
It's all about these kangaroo courts they've set up.
And it's all under admiralty.
And again, it goes back, what is admiralty?
Well, the British were the greatest pirates ever.
They just said, we're the government.
And they just pull up and rob your ship for no reason.
They didn't care who you were.
Sometimes they rob British citizens.
And that's what the globalists do.
It's just, we're going to feed on you.
And if you're incorporated with them, if you don't know your rights, it's easier for them.
Basically, claiming you're a state citizen or going through all the common law is like firing your cannons back at them and pulling your sword out as they board you.
Occasionally, if your ship looks well-equipped and there's not a powerful swarm of an enemy armada, they may move on to some type of cargo vessel that isn't defended.
Generally, that's what they do is attack smaller cargo vessels, to use the analogy.
And that's why they go after the weak.
I mean, what does a predator go after?
The globalists have a religion of predatory evil, feeding on the weak.
And so that's why they seek to make us all weak, so they can feed on us more readily.
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And this talked about, if you're in a court with a gold fringe on the flag, that that was actually a commercial law court?
He said, three weeks ago, at McKinney-Ruffs, 15 miles outside Austin, I gave the speech before he did, and he got up on videotape.
It's been aired on this network.
John Stattmiller aired it on his show a few weeks ago.
And he said, you know, the good news is this thing's going to fall apart, and we're going to have a depression.
And he said, enough people are going to be aware that the government caused all this and the private corporations that feed off the government.
And he said, I think I've seen an awakening that I didn't expect.
And I think we're going to win this thing.
And that's the same thing I'm saying.
This plane is going to crash.
They can't help it.
They're in their ivory towers.
No one's restrained them.
They're delusional.
And my whole point is that now the king has no clothes.
The emperor's naked.
Everybody sees it.
And they can go into a rampage all they want.
Their system is falling apart.
I had to go to the courthouse to file some papers two days ago.
And normally the guards there at the metal detector are real mean to people.
And they saw me and they're, hello Mr. Jones.
How you doing?
Man, stuff's getting pretty wild, isn't it?
They're all serious and I'm, how you doing?
You know, they have their combat boots, their little outfits on, but I saw another police officer up and he said, oh, Mr. Jones, how's everything going?
I mean, they're afraid, okay?
They know the truth.
They hear they're about to get drafted and forcibly injected.
Okay, we're all in this together!
Against the globalists.
Go ahead, I'm sorry.
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Well, I had some other information I encountered I wanted to get your opinion on.
It talked about birth certificates and a child being kind of set up as an asset of a trust registered with the IMF and that the state is the beneficiary of the trust?
And that started with the Romans that someone could, for a loan or as a tax, could pledge the children of their slaves.
And so there would be a certificate of birth of that property filed, and that's what a birth certificate is.
A marriage license is the same thing, a contract with the state.
Why is the government involved?
It's the... Marriage licenses started in this country for black people.
Okay?
Gun licenses started for black people.
A license is an authorization to do something that would be illegal.
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The more I hear about things like that information, and you look at the fiscal policy, and really the 6.4 trillion dollar debt or whatever, these are almost like child abuse tactics.
I mean, obviously not to direct physical abuse, but a longer term kind of fiscal.
Well sir, it is now, I've had a congressman on a few years ago about this, it's been in the Sydney Morning Herald, it's been in the AP.
For 33 years.
Coming up on 34, excuse me.
It's also another year.
Almost 34 years ago, all children in the country born in a hospital, they come in and they say, oh, we're taking some blood from your baby seal.
And they take three big ol' ampules of it.
And you ask, why are you doing that?
And they say, oh, one goes to the health department, one to the state, one to the federal government.
We do tests for blood diseases.
You want to ask them, well, why don't you just do that test?
Why don't you just do that test here locally?
It's mandated.
It's not law.
It's mandated.
They get paid.
Well, they now admitted what we already knew.
It is now admitted.
It is part of a, quote, global DNA database.
So see, they started 34 years out.
33 and, you know, 9 months or whatever.
10 months.
Years out.
Now they've got it in place and they go, oh yeah, we're going to use this now for all of you.
Oh, and by the way, we've been taking some of the blood and looking for unique proteins and genes, and if you don't own that, we sell that to biotech companies.
There's a federal court ruling, 9th Circuit, a couple years ago, where they said that when you give blood, the blood bank, a lot of that stuff's getting sold for genetic engineering and screening.
They take your information and are patenting it.
It's incredible, folks.
I mean, we've had an illegal, criminal, sneaky DNA database for 34 years, now it's in place and they're going, yes, we're going to start a national DNA database, England has said it, from the heel blood, and Canada's saying it, Australia's saying it, oh, we're going to use it for the Bali bombing people, and oh, for all crimes now, your blood, yeah, we did keep it, but, you know, we couldn't tell you about it, we just, It's like, oh, six, seven years ago we put satellite tracker boxes, plug-ins, and all the new cars.
It accidentally got there.
Now we're going to start taxing you.
This is a new thing we just came up with last week.
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And now Applied Digital Solutions, I just saw their PR information yesterday saying they've taken 5,000 orders for the VeraChip this quarter.
But everybody kept saying, oh Alex, where'd you get it?
Where'd you get it?
I said, they're corporate minutes.
They're corporate minutes.
Right.
I spent two, three hours one night reading it.
They're owned by the Communist Chinese Military.
Folks, this is in their corporate minutes.
And IBM.
And I don't know what this weird fight is now where they're going, apply digital, suing IBM because IBM's attempting to take control of the company.
They've always run that thing.
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Yeah, I guess they want to, you know, do it out in public, but that's one of those stunning analogies of, okay, IBM helped the Nazis in the concentration camp.
IBM wants to chip your kids.
Put two and two together, please get four.
I mean, it's stunning to me how much of this information, if people saw it in a movie as a fictionalized version, they'd be like, whoa, that's messed up.
But when it's presented as nonfiction reality happening in your real life, People apparently, they want to change the channel.
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We're about to go back to Jeff and John and Wesley and Ron and Bob and just a bunch of other people.
Yeah.
I mean, if, let's say I had $50 million to make a movie where a secret group had taken over.
They were planning to plant the public with microchips.
We're publicly saying it on the news.
We're tracking everyone with cell phones with chips in it.
We're putting cancer viruses in vaccines.
We're doing all the things they're up to.
Splicing humans with crocodiles, and goats with spiders, and humans with cows, and tomatoes that people eat on their store shelves with cockroaches.
You made a movie like that, people just go, man, that's the most whacked out, incredible, insane, unbelievable, hell, never, that was a nightmare!
And that's what's... See, I don't have the cognitive dissonance.
I do get conditioned to where I'm desensitized to it.
Like, oh, there's another concentration camp article in the Associated Press.
Well, I won't get to that.
I've only read, you know, 200 in the last two years on air, and they're posted on the websites.
So we've got to watch out for that.
But overall, it still hits me right between the eyes every day.
It sheers my consciousness.
It really does.
Well, the Bible says they marvel at the beast system.
That they marveled.
And listeners have called in.
It's incredible.
I can't believe it.
Once I see it, it's incredible.
I'm marveling.
And the caller's calling to go, yes, they marvel.
They marvel.
You marvel.
It's just, it's so, you marvel.
It's unbelievable!
But when it's really happening, see, the subconscious mind is much more powerful than the conscious mind.
The conscious mind is that narrow focus.
Of the incredible brain power we've got.
All the stored memories and instincts and the seed of the soul.
All of it.
And so the conscious mind is only a narrowly focused beam.
And so that narrowly focused beam looks out and sees this and the subconscious knows it's the truth.
Knows it's horrible.
Is marveling at it.
Is terrified by it.
Has it's mouth hanging open.
And so tells the subconscious mind, don't worry about that.
That threat's not real.
I mean, the public basically has gone into mass shock, folks.
And that's why they're announcing all this, throwing it in our face.
That's why they don't care if I'm on the air.
Because I really serve the globalists in a respect that they see the show as a desensitizer.
A conditioner.
And I'm honest about that.
If you don't consciously listen to this show, and fully, deeply think about the ramifications, Uh, and at all levels of your psyche, it is very bad to listen to this show.
I mean, I really should be honest and give you a warning.
Uh, because, you know, I'm just here spewing Uh, just, you know, the lone man, uh, seeing the Matrix for what it is, or they live for what it is, you know, putting on the sunglasses, and basically this is just a howl of anguish.
Oh, look at the nightmare!
And so a lot of people are going to turn away hearing it.
I just, it's incredible.
I'm going to come back and we'll get to all your calls.
I've taken a lot already this first hour.
I've done a good job.
We'll come back and take more calls, get to more news, you know.
Everybody stay right there.
Last minute of this hour, I would remind you, I've made a new film, Police State 3.
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They wouldn't just stick them up in the crow's nest for three or four days in the sun.
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Uh, they would nail you to the wheel and make you sit there for a couple days during the ship.
Because, uh, no, I'm honored to be fighting this New World Order and to be focused on it and be exposing it.
Let's go ahead and take some calls.
Let's talk to Jeff in Indiana.
We'll go to Jeff in Illinois, and Wesley, Ron, Bob, and others.
Jeff, you're on the air.
unidentified
Go ahead.
Hey, Alex.
I'm glad you're in a good mood today.
You know, it's tough when you go on your rants and the deep sarcasm because, you know, the masses get downtrodden out here.
It's kind of like when your husband or wife is Down in the dumps, it kind of wears off on you and it drains your energy.
The more that you're able to take that conscious effort to stay civil and be upbeat, I know it's hard to candy-coat all this, but like you say, those first-time callers that tune in and then hear you just going totally off the handle, it's tough to stay tuned at that point.
So I'm being friendly and I feel better and the listeners all feel happy.
I was given that advice by a good individual and I've taken it and I've done this myself from time to time.
Notice when I'm being grumpy and it's just, it's just, it's so disgusting.
And let me tell you, It is a subconscious tactic to be over-the-top, to really tell it like it is, to not sugarcoat it, because that does, with a lot of people, break through and shock them like cold water, or slap upside the head into waking up.
So overall, it's a good thing, but I do overdo it, and it does affect me.
My own PR, as they say.
Because I'm just a straight shooter.
This is how I feel about things.
But it kind of becomes a feedback loop and it gets worse and worse.
So, yes.
unidentified
Now, the other thing, too, is your commercial here says that you're the T-Rex of political talk.
You know, all the dinosaurs are extinct, Alex, but you're the cutting-edge thing that's up and coming.
When they're putting people like me in prison, that's when they're about to go, their system's about to go extinct.
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And of course, earlier in the last hour, we're about to go back to your calls, I mentioned this Associated Press article, US rich Got richer in 2003, Forbes says.
And, again, the neocons will have a heyday with this.
They'll go, these evil liberals, they're all jealous of this money that was gotten through hard work in the American way.
They want to use class warfare to pull down all of these wonderful good people.
Now, that's a fraud, folks.
History shows that, yeah, you can become wealthy, you can become successful by inventing something or by working hard, but you don't get to the pinnacles of power.
You don't get in the top one-half of one-tenth of a percent, you know, the top hundred people in the country by playing tiddlywinks with people.
That is a fraud, folks.
You've got to be on the inside track.
This is shown over and over again.
And I just want to point out that these rich guys and gals are the ones pushing for big government.
More regulation.
They make their profits off of government growth.
So two articles beside each other, and the Austin American statesman, today, Here in Austin, AP article, U.S.
rich got richer in 2003.
Forbes Magazine says net worth of wealthy as 400 grew by 10% from 2002 magazine figures.
Wow!
During a downsizing, during a recession, a major contraction, they increased their wealth by 10%?
Wow!
Guess who else got pay raises and got bigger?
Government!
See, the ultra-rich get richer, and government bureaucrats and the size of government gets bigger.
Right next to it is an Austin American Statesman staff article by Claudia Rosales.
Jobless rate falls to 5.6 in August.
Austin area gains about 5,200 jobs, but most hiring was related to government.
Oh, yeah.
You ought to see it in Austin.
I mean, two, three years ago, traffic.
Twelve hours a day.
I mean, it was horrible.
Now, the traffic isn't as bad.
I mean, it's... I'd say it's about 40% better.
I mean, it's incredible.
There's houses for sale everywhere.
Everywhere.
$300,000 houses are $200,000.
$150,000 houses are $100,000.
I mean, it's just incredible.
thousand dollar part of the thousand dollar houses are a hundred thousand
images of the incredible
i mean it's horrible and i remember these young people
They would go, you better watch out, Dell's moving to China.
They're going to restrict that stock and he's going to make more money.
That's ridiculous, he's a team player.
unidentified
You're just jealous that I have two million in Dell stock.
And I'd say to them, Uh, you just better wake up, buddy.
Every time they build up a bubble like this, it's speculative.
It's designed to get you overextended, to consolidate, and they make record profits, and get record control.
That's ridiculous!
Alan Greenspan won't let this end!
They're making too much money!
Making money?
Yes, they do make the money.
You're right, they print it.
You're not rich and powerful and on the real power list, it's never listed in Forbes by the way, low-level middle-class minions are of the elite, unless you own major stock and controlling stock in central banks.
Now we're about to go back to Jeff and Leslie and Ron and Bob and John, but I just want you to think about that.
Buildings in downtown Houston, banks all over Texas, golf courses, sports teams, professional sports teams, and Parade Magazine says Bush is worth a million dollars.
So, again, he's got foundations interlocking directorates.
unidentified
Yeah, you should have him back on again, Larkin Rose, and possibly Thurston Bell from uh... night dot org uh... if you can't say too much isn't
joined right now but it would be nice to hear from on the show
you can talk with them uh... another thing uh... are you aware of a dollar hedge
Oh, you're talking about the dollar being a world reserve currency?
unidentified
Basically, yeah.
And it's been espoused on the internet.
I've read several articles about the... See, Sondland was saying back in November 2000... Yeah, it was dumping in for the gold denar.
No, no, what he was doing, he had the UN re-denominate the price of its oil, going through the oil for food program.
That basically OPEC as a whole is looking at going to the Euro to denominate the price of the oil.
And this is a threat to the dollar because central banks around the world hold dollars to pay for dollar denominated debt and to pay for oil denominated in dollars.
That's what George Soros, who's a Rothschild agent and others are saying.
And a lot of people are out saying this, and at a certain level that story's true, but George Bush wouldn't come out and say a dropping dollar's good, and they wouldn't have Snow and the guy before him badmouthing the dollar for three years straight if they didn't want a low dollar.
Europe controls America like a finger puppet.
We play the part of the bad cop.
We're to be broken down, to lose our dollar, to lose everything.
That's by design, though.
Bush and those guys didn't invade Iraq to stop that.
Okay?
So, only at a certain level is that put out that Saddam was doing that.
And he was trying that.
And see, that's manipulation.
That's the euro sitting out, acting like it's against the war, and the Arabs run over going, oh, you're our friends!
We'll cash in with you!
So it's, you know, a two-headed hydra.
And the bigger head, the Arabs all just ran into the mouth of the hydra's, you know, teeth for safety from the evil American hydra that's snapping at them.
You ever seen the old Tom and Jerry cartoon where the cat opens its mouth like it's a mouse hole?
And you know, puts the little sign up, you know, that it's a restaurant for mice?
The Arabs, the Japanese, the North Koreans, they all fall for it.
They're not pirates.
They're not sophisticated.
I'm sorry.
The western mind, when it goes evil, is the worst thing around.
And these other people just can't deal with it.
And the globalists are great at praising someone and telling them how good they are and how they're unstoppable.
And these fools always, always bite.
For the good cop, bad cop.
They're just not sophisticated enough to get it.
I'm sorry, I'm not saying they're stupid.
They just don't know what ballgame they're playing.
Whole governments get fooled by this.
The white five-year-olds.
Thank you for the call.
I appreciate it.
We'll be right back.
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From his Central Texas Command Center, deep behind enemy lines, the information war continues.
Well, I wanted to tell you, I was in a gun shop about a week ago, and I heard a couple of detectives talking to each other, and there was a case One of them was involved in maybe two weeks before that where a woman was... a guy attempted to rape a woman and she pulled out a 9mm and held a gun on the guy and dialed 9-1-1 on her cell phone and when this one detective got out to the place where this woman was at he discovered that she did not have
Exactly!
Tennessee concealed carry permit. But he said to the Southern Cap, he said, "You know, I've
got a wife of my own, and when your wife is out on East Tennessee Road driving in the
These guys mentioned that they had learned a lesson well from Waco, Texas.
That was never to present themselves in A large group that could be easily targeted.
So what they've done with the militia in Tennessee apparently is to break up these larger militias into cells of five or six members, pretty much following the tactics of Al-Qaeda, so that one cell can't Well, again, Wesley, Al-Qaeda is the CIA.
We have a special guest for the rest of this hour, Jack Blood of WARL Reality Talk Radio 1320.
A.M.
in Rhode Island, one of our great affiliates, they carry, I don't know, 12 plus hours a day of the GCN radio network lineups, starting when, well, he was with another big station steering this show, well, the great folks over there at the radio station.
We have one of their hosts, host on the line with us, I've been on his show, one of my favorite hosts over there, and that's Jack Blood.
And a lot of other great talk show hosts locally there on their station.
We're going to plug that website and tell you about it.
And I was talking to Jack Blood and some of the other folks at the station this morning and I figured I wanted to get him on the show.
Jack, I appreciate you coming on.
unidentified
Thanks for having me, Alex.
And hopefully our listeners over here in the New England area, good people, will see that if I get out live they can call into your show and do the same.
I was talking to some of the folks at your station about things you're doing, this whole interactive multimedia thing as well.
That's exciting, and folks really should try to duplicate what you're doing, Jack, there at WARL.
Hillary Clinton's coming to town, isn't she?
unidentified
Yeah, Hillary Clinton is coming to the College Hill bookstore.
For those of you W.A.R.L.
listeners who want to get involved and cause her a little grief, go down there, maybe do a little protest, ask her what her socialist plans are.
I don't know if you're aware recently, I just read this in the BBC Alex, she had a big news conference to put together a nationwide system where anyone could telephone 211 to be connected to social services.
There's a big article in the Austin American-Statesman today about how wonderful this is and how they need more funding for the hotlines to tag along everyone and take more children.
I mean, the millions they take every year, millions, folks, isn't enough.
unidentified
Yeah, George Clooney is also on board with this, trying to support it.
And I've heard some interesting things about Hillary Clinton as well, that she's planning to get into this presidential race, Alex.
Well, no, I know that, but I mean, you certainly have got your ear pretty close to the source.
unidentified
Yeah, well, I mean, you know, we're here with Brown University, some of the top universities, one of the top art universities is also here in RISD, and I've got to tell you, one thing, you know, doing this radio station and being involved with management of the station, you know, we really see a change in the environment and the thinking of people in general, and I can, you know, this is why we're working with big newspapers in the area, why they're amenable to putting a link to our website on to their
newspaper sites and and even the newspaper editors in the local people uh...
that we could help us are opening their minds a little more in this is you know
a product of this war on terrorism this patriot act environment
It's starting to break down those walls of, hey, these guys aren't so kooky.
Because when Ashcroft says there's no Patriot Act 2 before a House and Senate committee.
Over and over again.
No new terror laws after they're introduced.
When they say they're building emergency camps, when they say they're going to have a national draft for professionals, when they say your new cell phone tracks everything you do, and oh yeah, your digital cable can listen to you, and oh yeah, we're going to tax you with your OnStar, when that happens, a lot of people are finally starting to wake up.
unidentified
Yeah, I mean, if you push, this is the thing, and a lot of people get discouraged, you know, what the New World Order is doing, what they've been doing for decades, if not millennia, You know, they could discourage what will never win, and this is the thing I hear that discourages me, when people say, I can't do anything about it, I know all about this, I know about the corruption, but I can't do anything about it.
But the fact of the matter is, the human spirit is indomitable, and I don't believe the New World Order will ever take over with their centralized government as they plan to, because the human spirit is indomitable, and we're seeing that human spirit rise up here in New England.
I heard a talk show host Uh, who's on here in Austin, Johnny Rowland.
Talking about that.
And how people just ignored the 55 mile an hour speed limits.
Police stopped giving tickets for it.
Everyone was against it.
You know, like 90 percent.
And the federal government that had mandated that, none of their business had to back off.
What a good example!
They ordered all the police and firefighters and people to take the smallpox shot.
They said no.
I mean, something like 99.9 percent.
So over and over again, people aren't buying this, Jack.
unidentified
Yeah.
And then other plans are working out, which, you know, hey, they may get desperate and we have to kind of be prepared for that, and I think that's the key thing, Alex, is just being prepared.
You want to have an escape plan, and you very well might need that escape plan, but I do have a very positive outlook in the big picture.
It's just when you realize how truly megalomaniacal these people are, it's amazing.
Let's talk about Wesley Clark, then let's go back to the calls, Jack.
Wesley Clark, they're now saying in the New York Times, yeah, he got told by the Clintons.
Late arriving candidate got pushed from Clintons.
That's the headline in the New York Times.
And of course, he's Rhodes Scholar, former head of NATO, tried to start World War III with the Russians, according to the BBC.
Flashback that Drudge did yesterday.
We did it on Infowars.com.
I mean, this guy, Wesley Clark, is really something else, but it doesn't matter!
I mean, you've got George Bush skull and bones, Kerry skull and bones, you've got this guy running around, I mean, do you see any candidate that's favorable to you?
unidentified
You know, in the beginning I had liked Dennis Kucinich, but...
None of them are worth two cents.
And I've got to say, nobody gets through the DNC, nobody gets on the Democratic ticket.
If not through the Clintons, they control, they put Terry McAuliffe in charge of the DNC and the fundraising for the Democratic National... Yeah, the Clintons are the Karl Rove of the Democratic Party.
That's right, and no one's going to get through without them, and that's why I think, really, you know, they're beating down Bush, they're tearing him apart, all these people getting the bad publicity, the negative press.
You know, Ted Kennedy came out today saying it was, I believe he said it was a Texas plot, a conspiracy, he might have said, in the Texas invention.
But I do want to say, you know, let's keep our eye on Hillary Clinton, because there's no doubt in my mind, not only is she a socialist and working with the New World Order on the highest level, but I hear a lot of rumors about mind control and some of the things she's involved in, and that's the last person.
I mean, I don't mind seeing a woman get in there, Alex, but that is the last person we need right now, and she is setting it up.
Hillary Clinton is tailor-made to walk into Hollywood and get starting roles as the Chief Witch.
I mean, Harry Potter movies is what she should be in.
I mean, the lady just radiates, just is a rat-like creature.
But again, I know these neocons are going to be on the air going, Alex, I know Bush ain't perfect, but come on, Hillary!
Hillary!
I would never vote for Bush!
Again, they say, well, you've got to vote for the lesser of two evils.
I've given the example of them telling you to drink out of, well, this glass has five Yeah, I mean, I almost don't mind if Bush stays in, mainly because I know what he's all about, I know what to look for, and I know how to work with the guy.
unidentified
I mean, somebody else comes in, you get a Democrat in especially, a lot of people are going to go to sleep and, you know, it works the same thing.
I was talking to Bob in Colorado, and he had a point if he's still there.
About the war in Iraq.
He had some questions, and I think Jack Blood, who's really up to date on this, can probably answer them.
Go ahead, Bob.
unidentified
Well, the one that I can't remember the source from, maybe you guys can bring me up a reference on this, but I had read or heard that West Nile's iris was, in fact, the CIA gift to Saddam Hussein.
That was in the Buffalo News, a really detailed article about a 94 Senate report by Alphonse D'Amato.
Botulism, West Nile, weaponized anthrax, Sharon, VX, everything.
unidentified
What I'm curious about is how come no one in this Homeland Security stuff knows, there's been no mention of perhaps that maybe there's been some spreading of this, because this virus has spread from coast to coast in what, two years?
Well, you know, great information on this type of thing is, if you don't mind me plugging, Len Horowitz and tetrahedron.org.
Len Horowitz has been exposing, you know, West Nile virus, AIDS, SARS, there's some good work on SARS, and, you know, the guy was, he studied diseases at Harvard and how the media handled that, and he's a real expert, so tetrahedron.org, there's a lot on that.
Well, he also brought it out, it was later made in the AP, there was a There was a congressional funded deal out of the National Security Council funding arm, the How to Mail Weaponized Anthrax to the Mail, and then that was in 99, it led right back to Fort Detrick.
He broke all that, then it came out that it really was this, they've named this Israeli everything, but nothing's being done.
They're going after Hatfield as the scapegoat.
unidentified
Yeah, war, disease, suicide, teen suicide.
I mean, all these things are meant to back up Ted Turner's statement.
You know, he wants to get the population of the planet Earth.
And of course, I just want to say, too, that this insurgence in Iraq, I don't know if you've given any thought to this or done any research, but to me this is so obviously staged, this insurgence that they have over there.
That's their excuse to keep troops in, and then Shalibi, the admitted bank robber and torture expert who worked for the Shaw, runs things for the Bushes.
And anybody that's caught selling stuff without a license from Halliburton is getting a bag put on their head and taken to a camp.
Folks, again, that's the Associated Press.
And then with all of this going on, Chalibi goes, yeah, there's about to be a bombing at the U.N., ha ha ha, blows up.
I mean, oh, and they kill this Shia guy who'd been in Iran, and they try to say Iran killed it.
That'd be like Iran cutting off their own right hand or something.
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It's ridiculous, and anyone that buys it, I think they need to go check themselves for mind control.
But again, 70% of people don't know where Iraq is, Jack, and so when we tell them that Iran doesn't kill their own agents that are taking over, it's just ridiculous!
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And George Bush came out recently saying, now he says there is no connection of Iraq and 9-11.
Well, I mean, I call them ultra-socialist left-wing communism.
I mean, look, folks, boil it down.
The pinkos have gotten sophisticated.
They run around in conservative outfits.
I don't know how to... And again, I don't get into pinko all that, but I'll just use a term that, you know, the so-called conservatives can understand.
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And you're calling this conservative?
What is your major malfunction?
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I want this guy to get a show on our network because he's very informed of the New World Order.
We need more voices out there reaching people across this land to link up.
When I went down to Houston last week on September 11th and we sold out the movie theater that held over 300 people and had to turn away hundreds, Folks are going, I can't believe there's this many people.
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No, we actually are one of the largest groups, that is, folks that believe the world is round, in the world today.
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We're a very curious, strange group.
Our numbers are growing.
And then we have Bev Harris on the electronic voting fraud coming up.
We've got to go back over this with some of the information because they're taking our right to vote away, folks.
So that'll be the last part of the next hour.
Jack, any points you'd like to make before we jump back to the callers?
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Well, I had Bev Harris on my show about a year ago, when she was just starting off this whole black box voting fraud campaign.
And, you know, I was surprised by the crickets I heard in the audience, Alex.
People were bored by such a thing as sustaining your right to vote.
It was amazing.
And I think that we really, really need to get more interested.
You know, the CIA covertly runs the touch screen companies.
They have meetings and talk about how to suppress you and it's been recorded by major newspapers but hasn't become a national story and, well, we're just taking your right to vote away now.
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Yeah, it's absolute mind control of the American public, which is obviously what they set out to do.
Though, you know, you have a lot of people that are awake, millions of people listening to you.
We have, you know, tens of thousands of people listening to our station, you know, in a given week.
Why can't we get a little bit more involved in that?
It's just like taxes.
You start talking about taxes, And people go to sleep.
They don't care that they're eating out of their money.
The church stood up to tyranny and wasn't a 501c3 whore of the government.
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Rogue Island, they used to call this.
We were lucky to join.
Yeah.
Well, I guess the issue and the question I had is, what ministries are there to ministers or preachers regarding what's going on to try to get them more activated and interested Even the 10% that are in what we call unregistered churches, which are... You just gotta educate them.
You gotta show them their children's futures at stake, and a lot of people will deprogram.
You remember the guy earlier who was buying all the stuff and loved the aircraft carrier landing, and he's deprogrammed.
Jack?
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Well, I mean, that's pretty deep.
One thing I noticed when I first started waking up to all of this, and I would go talk to people on the street, you can give them all the facts you want in a conversation, but these people are so mind-controlled, you literally need to treat them as if they've been abducted by a cult.
You need to take them somewhere for a week.
And deprogram them, but institutions like your radio show, like our radio station, W.A.R.L.
here, the American Free Press, many of the websites around, the great books that are published, these institutions of unlearning, let's call them, really are the key to unlocking the mind control of America.
Already into the third hour of this worldwide transmission.
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Tell your friends and family about the show, about the affiliate you're listening to.
On, internet, shortwave, AM, FM, one of our great affiliates, W-A-R-L, 1320, and they're in Rhode Island.
We have one of their, well, most prolific and insightful talk show hosts, Jack Blood on with us, and a bunch of callers.
I want to go quick to these calls and finish up, because we've got Bev Harris coming up about election fraud and stealing the right to vote away from you.
You better stay with us.
Jack, continuing with the comments from Clyde Nevada.
Real quick, Clyde, you had one other point.
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Well, I just wondered if there's any kind of a ministry that any of your listeners even know about that's to ministers, because they'll listen to fellow ministers a lot more than they would to lay people.
Is there a ministry to them to try to wake them up?
Yeah, you're saying it's important to get the preachers woken up, and there is a lot of preachers out there, gentlemen.
Look at Tex Mars, look at Pastor Butch Paul, and others.
Let's move on to other callers.
Let's talk to Dylan in Texas.
Dylan, you're on the air.
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Howdy, Alex.
How are y'all doing today?
Pretty good.
I was having a little bit of a personal endeavor last night, kind of distressing, talking to someone very close to me who's in second year of law school, trying to mention some of the things that I've learned from your show.
Most of the things you've said that I've been interested in, I've gone and got the Associated Press article or whatever off the internet.
They don't even really celebrate that in Mexico, but they do here.
And that's the government promoting it to break the country up.
Anything to erase what America was.
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You know, also, the problem we have, and when you're talking about, you know, churches and them being, you know, under the 501c3 and taking money from the government, I mean, we have no leaders.
This is the biggest problem we face.
We have no leaders.
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Cleveland's big newspaper, Voting Machine Controversy, Columbus.
The head of a company vying to sell voting machines in Ohio told Republicans in a fundraising letter that he is committed to helping Ohio deliver its electoral votes to the president next year.
The August 14th letter from Walden O'Dell, chief executive of Diebold Incorporated, who has become active in re-election effort for President Bush, prompted Democrats this week to question the proprietary And, uh, of allowing O'Dell Company to calculate votes in the 04 presidential election.
O'Dell, it goes on, attended a strategy powwow with wealthy Bush benefactors known as the Rangers and Pioneers, and it goes on and on.
Now, we had Bev on a few months ago.
She said she was breaking the major news because she's a lady who's been hired by Fortune 500 companies to expose corporate corruption in their own systems.
They found Diebold and other big companies.
They looked at the source code of Diebold and others.
This has been in everything.
Denver Post, Associated Press, Reuters, all over that these things are designed for fraud.
You've got electronic access, wireless internet hooked into them, weird tabulation systems.
I mean, it's designed with fraud in mind with no paper trail.
And then you've got Senator Hagel involved in owning the company out in Nebraska that's being put in everywhere.
I mean, it's scary.
But again, they count on us not being able to face the horror of this.
Now, Bev Harris, we're so honored to have you on blackboxvoting.com and org.
Last time you were on, you were breaking all this.
Weeks later, what you had broken came out all over the news.
Give us a nutshell of what we're facing and what this new article means with this Odell.
But yeah, we've got stuff to break and I guess what we'll do is we'll break it here and then people can watch for it in the news in the next few months as they have been.
Alright, honored to have you.
Yeah, one of the things that I found absolutely stunning was of course, well we've known that the Diebold executives have been a major Major political folks behind the Bush administration.
It's not just Wally O'Dell, it's also W.H.
Timkin, who is another director from Diebold.
Now understand that Bush has only about a hundred pioneers.
The Bush pioneers are the group that kind of meets behind the scenes and are the powerhouse political strategists and fundraisers for George W. Bush.
Two of the hundred Bush pioneers run Diebold.
I mean, think about that.
That's really unusual, isn't it?
W.H.
Timkin is a Bush pioneer, and Wally O'Dell is, and not only did he promise to deliver the votes, Which is amazing.
He did so in writing.
He promised to deliver the vote to Bush, even though he runs the voting machine company.
He visited President Bush at the Crawford Ranch in early August.
He was down there with a group of other Bush pioneers, strategizing on how to win the election.
Now, by the way, for those that don't know, last time you were on a few months ago, and now it's broken, I mean, Baltimore Sun, you name it, Austin American Statesman, everything you said here on the show, that it's got wireless connections to the boxes they didn't tell anybody about, there's these three different levels of codes, the hundreds of top programmers looked at it and agreed with your programmers, That these things are designed for backdoor access, and then the League of Women Voters is out campaigning that the government pass a law that we not be allowed to have a paper ballot.
They've gone after, what they did was they went after a few of the organizations, but they went at them from the top down, and they do not represent, by the way, what their own constituency says.
Because we've been in contact with many of the League of Women Voters' local chapters and they're furious about this.
They're saying, no, we want a paper ballot.
We are not throwing away the evidence.
And what's happened is I believe what we need to do now is start looking at the contributions to these organizations.
Because I'll betcha that they went to the head of the League of Women Voters and to a couple other organizations and made hefty contributions.
I also just found out today, now we are starting to get into the civil rights community with this.
And they're implying that the civil rights community is behind this no paper trail voting.
Well that is a lie.
What they're doing is they're quoting this Leadership Conference on Civil Rights, which, by the way, has backed away from that position and is not even saying now that they are against a paper trail.
But the voting vendors got to them, got a statement out of them.
But when we looked at the constituency of the Leadership Conference on Civil Rights, the people who were jumping in were not the people of color.
They were not the NAACP.
They were not the black churches.
They were the League of Women Voters, who happens to be a member.
Okay, for folks that are missing what you're saying that is.
The establishment, the three voting machine companies, all CIA, government, senator connections, I mean, just unbelievable.
With all the code source and all this, you know, corruption going on, that these are designed for this, they claim, oh yeah, well, the minorities want it, so you're racist if you're against it, which is just their classic tactic.
But I would also add to this that we've only in a few cases have we seen attempts at censorship of this show and others.
And when they were putting in electronic touchscreens last year, and we confronted them and exposed it, we had actual threats, phone calls, attempts at censorship on this issue by quote, members of the media here in Austin that are steering this and that were steering this into place.
So this is very important to them because they know this means total control and domination.
Well, Bev, right here in Austin, right here in Austin, Bev Harris, Danita Dubois, the county clerk, She got caught in 98 with the paper ballots, double counting ballot boxes, breaking safety seals, falsifying signatures.
That was in the paper, but the state board said it was, quote, an accident.
In the middle of the night at 2 a.m., her good friend that was losing suddenly was winning.
This all comes out, and now she's the one pushing the touch screens.
Okay, well, we were able to get into a private teleconference.
There was a conference that was held by teleconference in Houston.
It was run by the Election Center and the Voting Machine Manufacturers.
It was supposed to be a secret.
My publisher, David Allen from Black Box Voting, he runs Plan 9 Publishing.
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But he actually dialed in and he signed in with his own name and no one asked him who he was.
So he sat there and transcribed this meeting.
And this meeting, which was between, understand, it was an insider meeting.
What they were discussing, among other things, was can Lockheed Martin and Northrop Grumman, defense contractors, you know, can they help us with our PR problem now, like they helped get the HAVA bill through?
The HAVA bill is the bill that requires that we buy all these new touchscreen machines.
If you haven't figured it out yet, do you know who's putting up the red light cameras?
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Who puts on the ads about thumb scanning for biometrics?
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They're in a meeting.
The biometrics, the RFID.
Remember the meeting with Ridge?
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The news she reported here a few months ago is now a top story in a lot of big newspapers, but it never made it onto the nightly television news where most people get their propaganda We talked to the head of Caspian, the group that exposes the whole cashless society and what's happening with the tracking there, about the secret meetings with the biometric consortium, the RFID consortium, with Governor Ridge of quote, making us take it in the name of fighting terrorism.
We know that Lockheed Martin and others are involved in funding Domestic propaganda operations.
Folks, this is military coup.
This is Russia.
This is China.
This is so big.
You're telling me, the military industrial complex, that in this discussion group, this closed, secret conference, That you guys got into, Bev Harris, that they were discussing using the military-industrial complex to smash opposition to this.
Yeah, what happened is they set up, okay, well as we all know, we've been getting a lot of press for the problems, and part of that comes from, well all of it comes from, the fact that we were able to find the cache of Diebold files, the Diebold voting machine files, 40,000 files they left on a website.
We were able to analyze those and find how incredibly flawed they were and that indeed they do appear to be set up just specifically to allow backdoor entrance into manipulating the vote.
Well, that's made the papers and of course now the industry has kind of a black eye and they're trying to think of any way they can to get out of offering a paper trail.
A paper trail!
Voter verified ballots!
That just means you look at the ballot and it's kept in a ballot box like we've been doing since the beginning of time.
And it's evidence, okay?
They want to get rid of the evidence.
So, the industry had a meeting to figure out what to do about this PR fiasco.
In the meeting, it was set up, by the way, very inappropriately by the election center, which is supposed to represent the voters and the people, set up a meeting with a lobbyist and the vendors to deal with this PR problem.
The lobbyist that was running the meeting was the ITAA.
It's a series of initials that stands for a bunch of things.
Suffice it to say, it's very tightly connected to another bunch of initials, SAIC, which is a big Pentagon contractor.
Now, this is just so bizarre.
Let me draw this loop for you, and I'm sorry to have to come up with things with initials, but the military likes to do things with initials.
You have Diebold.
Diebold's software is exposed to be flawed.
They then get the state of Maryland and the state of Ohio to request a supposed independent investigation of Diebold's security.
They commission a group called FAIC to do the supposedly independent evaluation of Diebold's voting machine security.
The SAIC is mainly a Pentagon contractor.
It's sort of like a mercenary version of the CIA in much of what it does.
It's like a corrupt five-time convicted felon who is the informant who they then call in to testify against you in court and you can't bring up the fact that it's a convicted felon with charges against him and if they don't testify they're going to jail.
So it's some government owned and run quasi-public private group.
that does other things too, but their job is to come up with the report on Diebold.
Except their senior vice president is the director for the I.P.A.A., which is in there saying they're going to lobby to whitewash this whole thing.
Understand what I'm saying.
The supposedly independent Pentagon contractor who's supposed to do an independent evaluation of Diebold security, they're tied to the lobbying group that is promising to whitewash this thing.
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My friends, I want you to understand the magnitude of this.
In my own life here in Austin, the people running this system have threatened us, tried to keep this information from going on the air.
They've got the local media involved on the board of this, profiting from it.
And then you look at it nationally, they have all these top computer programmers look at just one of the company's software and it's designed with secret back doors and wireless connections and you've got The government and the CIA, we talked about this months ago when she was on the show, Bev Harris.
All of this, and then now you find out that there's a PR campaign to use the Defense Department's money and the private defense contractor's money to lobby and propagandize to suppress the people and the media that is starting to learn of this.
And they're counting on you going, oh Martha, they'd never steal the election, they'd never have a fraud set up like that.
Folks, this is so horrible.
Bev Harris, what else came out in this secret meeting that you guys were able to get in on between the lobbyists, the vendors, the military-industrial complex folks?
A good bit of discussion about, well, we want to make sure the media never finds out about this, and I have to say that the folks that were listening in were having a really hard time not saying anything, because they did sign in under their own name.
What happened is they had everybody sign in and say who they were, but everybody called in at once, and they kind of just, I guess, didn't pay attention, because there was also a reporter from the Beacon Journal in Akron.
Oh, so now it's not just... We kicked off a few people and said, you know, go on in and see what you can hear, and that's exactly what happened.
But, yeah, there was a good bit of conversation about, well, we'd better check in with antitrust regulations, and we don't want anyone talking about collusion and things like this.
Now, understand that any industry can set up a lobbying thing.
There's nothing unusual in that.
And in setting such a thing up, they would certainly want to discuss antitrust issues.
What was very unusual about this is this.
Now, if you're an industry and you're legit and you're setting up a lobbying thing, the group of people from the industry would get together, they would probably interview a few lobbyist firms.
Now, that's not the case here.
What happened is the lobbying firm shows up and says, we need money by Friday.
And they said, you know, don't want to say the term knife in the back, but, you know, those who are not members, well, if they get into trouble, it looks like they would want to become members.
Well, see, that's, you know, I've talked to people in and out of government, and they say corruption has never been at such all-time highs.
It's totally rampant.
And if they get away with taking our elections away and let the CIA run it, I mean, folks, you're going to lose your Second Amendment, your borders, and they're going to say, well, it's a democracy, you voted for it, didn't you?
That's why they want to get us away from a republic, because even if they control the voting machines, a republic would still have the Bill of Rights.
Not in a pure democracy.
Now, Bev Harris, for those that just joined us, you've got an incredible track record yourself.
Tell us a little bit about Bev Harris, and then let's go back into some more of this.
Wait, I've got some of the articles, and last time you were on with us you were going over that, that some of the polls showed Hagel way behind and that it was a big upset.
Yeah, and Hagel, with Hagel, he, now he's outspent his opponent.
His opponent, Charlie Matolka, you gotta love him.
He's a construction worker, he's a feisty guy.
He spent a total of $4,000 on a United States Senate campaign, and Hagel spent about $3 million.
Okay?
So Hagel outspent him by whatever it was, $100,000 to one.
And so, yes, you know, Matolka figured that Hagel has a bit of an advantage there.
But what was odd was that Hagel won demographic groups that always go Democrat.
He won the black areas of Omaha, you know?
I mean, and it was not really to be expected.
And then he comes forward and he starts bragging on his website that he won with the biggest margin in history.
Well, you know, 85% of his votes were counted by his own machine.
So then his opponent, Charlie Matulka, who's a candidate, you know, he had standing for a recount.
Because the margin wasn't close, he couldn't get an automatic recount funded by the state, but you can get a recount if you're a candidate if you pay for it.
So he said, OK, I'm going to pay for it.
Now let's look at these ballots that my opponent ran through his own machine.
And the state of Nebraska, if you can believe it, said, well, you can pay for the recount, but all we will do is run the ballot through Hagel's machines again.
You can't ever look at the ballot.
We have no provision in the law to let you look at the actual ballots that were used.
There's a reason they want these touchscreens so desperately, and that is because I think Florida scared the heck out of them.
While everyone was talking about punch cards, my theory on Florida is the thing that really puts fear into these people is the optical scams.
Diebold optical scams counted 40% of Florida in the year 2000.
Now, if they had hand-counted every single one of those Diebold optical scans immediately after the election, statewide, I think some things would have come out that would have been impossible to deny.
and all of the people involved are just wrong And then we've got a situation now, now this is kind of how I see things, and this is speculative, so we'll label it, Dev Harris' speculation, okay?
But here's what I'm seeing it shake down to.
Um, we have the defense industry who was pushing the move toward unauditable voting, toward getting rid of the paper trail.
That we know from the meeting, because they came right out and said it.
And number one, why is the defense department and then private There's a military industrial complex around it that Eisenhower warned us would try to overthrow the country.
Yeah, they have no business in our voting system, period.
And they are definitely involved.
They have been involved through making voting machines.
They're involved in the voter registration system.
And they're involved in new things now.
Now here's what I see coming down the pike.
This lobbying effort, this whitewash effort, one of the things they also discuss is, well, what we need to do is sort of come up with our own certification standard, not the Federal Election Commission, but our own.
We'll have the gold standard, which will be our own making.
Now, I think what they're planning to do with the gold standard is this.
There's a company called VoteHere.
VoteHere makes something that goes inside voting machines.
It's designed to go inside all the voting machines from all the manufacturers.
It will be sort of like, you know, where they have that little label that says Intel inside?
Well, I think they'll have a little thing that says VoteHere inside.
You have to trust it if it's got vote here inside it.
You see, and so I think what it's aiming toward is you're going to see a move, and we're doing some pretty good work here to get the right questions asked, so it may be more difficult than they expected.
You're going to see a move, though, to try to switch again and say, OK, well, the voters insist on a voter-verified paper ballot.
Well, Bev Harris, let me stop you for just a minute.
Let me stop, because this is just bombshell after bombshell, and I'm begging the listeners, you know who we are, just like the Catherine Albrecht interview that you did a transcript of, I'm begging you, do the transcript, get it to Paul Watson, we'll get it up on PrisonPlanet.com, up on Infowars.com, so we don't have to wait four months or three months for this to show up in the mainstream media with a spin on it, and we'll put links of course to BlackBoxVoting.com and have all that there for folks, so we can get it out to everybody.
The key here is, Bev, were you aware of the folks over at No Cards, the, uh, involved, Catherine Albrecht, she went to the meetings and then they got off one of the websites that had a back door in it, the documents with the RFID tracker chips they want to replace the barcode with, and the secret meeting with Walmart and Procter & Gamble.
Yeah, with Homeland Security talking about how to neutralize us, how to neutralize opposition, I mean, and how to get the military-industrial complex involved.
I mean, this is sinister!
This is like The Running Man or something, where you find out TV's fake and everything, you know, pulling the curtain back.
You know, people want to say, oh, you guys, you know, you're just crazy and stuff.
I had no idea, frankly, when my publisher went into this meeting.
I had no idea about this.
I knew that there was a Vote Here situation and that there was defense people involved in that, but I couldn't quite figure out what Vote Here did until this meeting.
But when we heard, and they were, I'm telling you, there was like two paragraphs of conversation about the defense industry and how it had pushed HAVA bill through and how maybe they could come in and help us now.
By the way, there's two websites with this, but blackboxvoting.com does have the transcript on it.
It's not a complete transcript and it does have my publisher's fairly opinionated notes
You know the one thing we have going for us is that when you have all that data and they
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Now, this is a very bad thing because we can assume they're going to look into a lot of people that are very inappropriate.
In the bottom line is, some human has to eventually look at all that data.
So it's extremely inappropriate that they're collecting it.
But I have to say, I sometimes kind of smile and think, what in the world do they think people... I mean, at some point, it's like if you do surveillance on all these people, I can tell you, if they were doing surveillance on the six telephone lines that I have in my office and house, They would have to listen to five teenagers discussing their boyfriends and their nails.
At some point, some poor schmo is going to have to actually go through all this stuff and decide what's important.
I think that may be the thing that saves us at some point, because they won't get the... Well, no, it's true.
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He's going to post the Rig-A-Vote kit, which is using actual files from Diebold.
What he has been doing is put it on a CD, he's taking it around and visiting his newspaper officer's editors and saying, let me put this on your computer, we're going to walk through this together.
I'll show you how to rig your own election.
and here and and now this is not designed to show people how to read it
election it's designed to show newspaper editors that back doors into the system
he said he had routinely picking up jog off the floor they cannot believe what they think and
in his kit which he would probably with the link will be posted to
and i might get For those who don't know, it's been in the news.
Now, one of the things he found, though, was he found an actual, he found a smoking gun.
He found an actual file of actual votes for San Luis Obispo County, California, that is Let's just say a problem.
Now, you know what they're supposed to do.
All the precincts vote, they close down the polls, they tally up the precincts.
Somebody explain why there's a file that was left on the Diebold FTP site where they tallied up the votes from all 51 precincts in that county at 3.31 in the afternoon and it can only have been done via wireless electronic means because otherwise they would have had to shut down all 51 polling places and plug in a modem.
That didn't happen.
And why did that end up with a password that's the name of a Diebold employee And end up on a public FTP site.