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Aug. 15, 2025 - Adventures in HellwQrld
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Adventures in HellwQrld Presents: Mike and Eric's Struggle Session

This week it's Mike and Eric talking about how things really suck under Trump and not a lot of expectations of them getting better. We talk about DC being taken over, Russiagate and how stupid that all is and the continuing saga of the Epstein Files. Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/hellwqrld. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Hello, everybody, and welcome to the Adventures in Hell World podcast.
I am Mike Raines, aka Poker and Politics.
And this week, it's just me and Eric.
There's Eric, he's over there.
He's the co-host now, officially, officially the co-host of the show.
That's good because I've been spending the whole week slinging sandwiches and I'm ready to go.
Well, that's good.
It's good to sling sandwiches.
It's all about being a working-class man, just doing working-class stuff.
So that's right.
Any new stuff going on?
Any fun things happening in Ericland?
Well, I'm back.
I'm back to work for the school year, so you lucky dog.
That's right.
I'm now earning a paycheck again.
For me, my new thing is a game called Lorelli and the Laser Eyes, and it's a great game.
10 out of 10 would recommend it to anybody.
If you enjoy escape rooms, you will love this game because it's very much a game where it's sort of like, here's a hint, and now here's a lock you have to break with that hint.
And then you do that, and the game will eventually get to the point where there's like stuff that's like seeded for later game activities.
But a lot of the puzzles in the game are just literally: you're in a room, there's a lock, here's a clue, figure it out.
And it has a very suspense noir theme to it.
It's very engaging game.
I've enjoyed it.
I'm most of the way through the game at this point.
I know from like the walkthroughs and the cheating I've done to like solve puzzles that have stumped me that I'm in the end game, but it's uh it's been worth it.
10 out of 10 would recommend.
Unless it does uh, did you ever see the game like 12 minutes or whatever it was called?
It was like 12 or 13 minutes.
It was just really it was a game like kind of based off Groundhog's Day where you were trapped in a time loop.
Okay, uh no, I mean, I've played Groundhog loop type games, but I can't think of that one.
So basically, that game was like a solid enough game, and then the ending just came out of nowhere and was the most horrible thing in the history of the world.
Oh, I hate that.
And you were just and you were just like, What?
No, no, why would you, yeah, why were you even thinking?
Grab your monitor, throw your monitor out the window.
Like, what the fuck?
Yeah, but I Mean, yeah, unless the game hits me with an ending like that to just ruin everything.
Uh, yeah, I think I'm gonna be okay, but uh, yeah, check in next week.
I'll let you guys know if they landed the plane or not.
But uh, no turbulence, smooth sailing, see the runway right in front of us, everything's great.
This is gonna be so awesome when I find out the ending to this game's a nightmare, and I'm just like, oh no, oh man, no, dummy Mike set himself up.
I know you like escape room stuff.
Did you ever play 999?
Uh, no, I've never heard of that.
I'll definitely have uh, I know it.
I played it on the on the Nintendo DS, but I'm uh, I'm guessing I got uh ported to other systems as well.
It's uh, it's literally an escape room game like you spend, and then but it's also a visual novel where there's like periods where there's it's just like 20 minutes of watching people having conversations in between selfing uh escaping rooms, but like they get really like they throw in some real like SO, like that's the game where I first heard about the uh the mummy on the Titanic, yeah, yeah.
And then they talk about uh, they talk about the ice nine from uh Kurt Vonnegut's Cat's Cradle as if it's a real thing, yeah, just all kinds of weird stuff like that.
That sounds interesting.
I'll definitely have to look into that, yeah.
So, uh, anyhow, uh, we haven't done a pod that wasn't just me talking about blackjack in a while.
So, has anything happened in the last few weeks?
Oh, wait, everything sucks, the world is terrible.
We're all I did actually, you reminded me, I did have one blackjack-related question that I didn't hear mentioned in your solo pod.
Uh, some I know some casinos offer insurance when you're playing blackjack.
Oh, I didn't talk about insurance for um the simple reason that you should never take insurance.
Insurance is that's what I've heard, that's what I've heard: that insurance is bad, bad, bad.
Okay, so yeah, this is uh, this is a great question, great little uh blind spot that I missed.
Um, basically, if the dealer is showing an ace, you are offered insurance if you don't have a blackjack, and if you do have a blackjack, you will be offered even money.
Both of these bets are terrible because the odds the dealer actually has the blackjack are one and three, and the dealer is effectively paying you just two to one for a payoff that should be three to one.
So, you're getting uh robbed on the odds pretty substantially on that.
And insurance exists as a sucker bet for idiot customers, and it's also one of the more egregious ways to spot a card counter.
Because if a guy starts upping his bets real heavy, and then the dealer shows an ace, and the guy hasn't taken insurance all the time, and now suddenly he's taking insurance on his thousand-dollar hands.
It's because he's counting and he knows it's way more likely that you actually have blackjack than the three-to-one.
And he's actually getting a right price to get two to one on his insurance.
So, yeah, insurance is just super bad.
Never take it, never take even money.
The number of idiots I've heard who've told me, Well, if the casinos are offering you money, you should take it.
If the casino is offering you anything, we're doing it because it's a bad idea.
We don't offer you good suggestions, like we don't force our dealers to tell you good things.
We only ask that they only tell our dealers to tell you bad things.
That's how we say in business.
So, yeah, yeah, I know that's that's one thing that people always seem to forget: is that the casino is a business, and the bottom line for any business is to be in the black.
So, they're, you know, so they're going to do everything they can to make sure that they make a profit.
Yep, and that's the thing is that the reason why they make they say these things is because people are dumb enough to buy into it.
And insurance, everyone knows it's a sucker play, but God, everyone takes even money, it drives me nuts.
And I tell people, don't do it, and they're like, I'm getting money, and I'm like, Yeah, long run, you're way just do the math, you're way more likely, you make way more money in the long run not accepting our lowball bribe offer because that's what we're doing.
So, yeah, it's very funny.
But uh, yeah, if anyone else ever has questions or comments about table games, I'm gonna do another one.
I'm gonna talk about craps next time.
So, we're gonna do that.
I'll get that up sometime this week also.
And I'm actually kind of interested in that because I never understood craps.
Oh, I love craps.
Craps is my game.
I've become like the craps guy at my work.
Like, if there's ever a problem with a customer about craps, they're like, Mike, get over here.
I'm like, okay, I come over.
I'm like, what's the deal?
And they're like, this guy's mad about this.
And then I'm just like, and the only thing that's funny is a lot of times it's like something so stupid.
And I'm just like, oh, it's this.
The guy's like, oh, right.
My bad.
Like, we have a terminal system on some of the craps tables.
And like, this guy will be like, why can't I bet?
Why can't I take odds on the pass line?
I'll bet because the point hasn't been established yet.
I'll be like, oh, right.
My bad.
I'm like, yeah, it's really obvious.
Sorry, buddy.
I know I sounded like I was making Klingon there, but trust me, when you play craps, like that's like Craps 101 terminology I just used.
So what terrible thing do you want to start off with first, Eric?
Well, I've been getting a mild kick out of the whole Gavin Newsome is the new Donald Trump thing.
Oh, it's really funny that Gavin is just straight up trolling this prick.
And the fact that we have to have such discourse about this makes me laugh.
But I mean, we talked about this when after Trump wins the election, Gavin's talking to Steve Bannon and Charlie Kirk, and he's trying to reach and he's trying to reach across the aisle.
Right.
And then like two weeks later, he's decapitating Bernie Sanders and stealing his power and the quickening and becoming the liberal champion of America.
And I mean, at this point, hey, smoke him if you got him.
I mean, whatever, Gavin, do what you got to do.
But I mean, for me, I've seen this from a lot of people too.
Like one of the most important things I need from a candidate in 2028, if we have elections and all that fun stuff, is visceral hatred of Republicans.
I need you to get out there and be like, these people suck.
They are terrible.
They are destroying our country.
We need to beat them in every election for the next 40 years.
You need to rise up and crush these scum.
And I am your avatar to do it.
And that's it.
I mean, the last thing I want to hear from anyone getting in front of a microphone with a big sign that says, my name, 2028, the last thing that you, good sir, or madam, are going to say to that microphone is, no, I'm going to work across the aisle with my esteemed Republican people and find consensus.
No, you are not going to reach across the aisle.
No, you're not going to reach consensus on the issues that trouble America.
You are going to crush these people because they are evil.
They are ontologically evil and they must be defeated and driven from power.
And if you say anything other than that, you do not have my vote.
So the only two people that are getting this right now are Newsom and Prickser.
Pricksker from Illinois.
Like every time I see anything from Pritzker, he's like, man, Republicans are fucking terrible, aren't they?
They suck.
He's just not being as flashy as Newsom is at this moment.
And right now it's 2025.
America has the intention spinning up coldfish.
None of this actually matters come 2028.
But those are the two guys that are actually getting in front of a microphone and saying what I need to hear, which is fuck these people.
Fuck them.
So anyone who's like, oh, Newsome shouldn't be trolling him, he absolutely should be trolling him.
He should be going at Trump.
He should be going at the Republicans.
He needs to gerrymander the shit out of California.
All of it.
Like, fight fire with fire.
Get after these pricks.
Yeah.
I had to laugh because before we came on, I saw this.
I saw this thing where a reporter asked Newsom why he's trolling Trump.
And he's like, the real question you should be asking is you should be asking Donald Trump why he tweets like that and how this has become normalized over the last eight years.
Yes, 100%.
I would have preferred him to have said the question you need to ask Donald Trump is, where are the Epstein files?
But if he isn't going to say that, the next best thing he could say is, yeah, the president is a moron.
Why are you tolerating the president being a moron?
Yeah, that's what I've been, that's what I've been spending the last two weeks doing is anytime I see something from Carolyn Levitt or Pam Bondi or someone like that.
No matter what they say, I respond with a meme of American Psycho.
And he's like, wow, that's crazy.
How about those Epstein files?
Yes, exactly.
Exactly.
And that's going to be real fun September 2nd when the house reopens, and the Democrats are just like, Okay, every bill that comes to the floor, gonna put an amendment on it to release the Epstein files.
What are you gonna do about it?
What are you gonna do?
And I had I had commented that I was sure that 99% of all the Republican reps were gonna were gonna hide in their houses with the doors locked and the windows barred rather than hold any town halls or anything.
But I'm like, but the two or three who actually do show their faces like a groundhog on February 2nd, I'm gonna, I can't wait to see those clips.
And sure enough, you got like Mike Flood being booed and all this other stuff.
Yep, and he's like, and then, and then, well, I did, I think it was Mike Flood.
He was like, well, well, I know, I know you libs who pack this place are angry, but I bet real, my real constituents are thrilled with what I'm doing.
Well, yeah.
Yep.
Well, yeah, I know, but I, uh, you know, we're talking about the memory of goldfish thing.
I keep telling everybody, because like I saw one person saying, uh, Newsom Pricksker 2028.
I'm like, dude, it's 2025.
Let's, I'm not even ready to talk about the midterms yet.
Let's, let's, let's put 2028 on the back burner for now.
I know, I know people start talking about 2020.
People started talking about 2028 one second after Donald Trump was declared the winner of 2024, but let's prioritize here.
Yeah, let's win the midterms here.
Let's have midterms.
But I will say, I'm now watching a video of Newsom talking about, he's got like a, he's got his, he's got his on his lectern, it says Election Rigging Response Act.
And yeah, I saw that.
And it's like, like, my God.
Is Newsom even going to wait for the first election to be called on midterm night before he drops the 2028 banner?
I mean, there's, there's never been a Gavin Newsom is currently jogging right now because he's about to start running in a couple years.
He's already there.
I know.
I mean, and hey, this is the one thing that I like, I mean, of all the, of all the copium I need to huff, let me grab my copium mask here.
Oh, God, the premium copium.
I love it.
But that's the one thing that like makes me laugh about this whole horrible ordeal we're in is that like in the weeks after the 2026 midterms, Newsom, Pricksker, maybe, maybe big, maybe Big Gresh in Michigan.
Like you're going to see a lot of Democrats, Bashir in Kentucky, maybe Shapiro, but you're going to see all these Democrats like coming out, throwing their hat in the ring.
I think the only person who could kind of like do the whole, will they or won't they?
Might be Kamala.
I mean, Kamala might drag it out if she's going to run or not.
But you're going to see all these people getting into it, starting their super PACs, start like going to South Carolina, starting to hit the early states.
And on the Republican side, you're going to have like Theoden Trump senile to the point of almost incompetent.
And the whole Republican Party is going to be, Your Majesty, are you going to go for another term or not?
Are we allowed to run Vance or not?
And Trump's going to be like, Trump, 2028.
What was that, our God Emperor?
Did you say you were running or not?
And he's just going to mumble and slur.
And the Republicans are going to be in this three to six month period of abeyance where they're going to be like, what do we fucking do?
Do we go for the illegal third term?
Do we just try to push this guy out the door and then have our QAnon on base turn on us because we're usurping him?
Like the idea that Donald Trump's going to walk to a lectern with the presidential seal on it and be like, everybody, I love JD Vance and he's the guy for 2028.
And then Trump's going to walk away from the Lectern and let Vance get up there and cut a promo.
Like that's never going to happen.
That will never happen.
I mean, like, I remember a couple months ago, like, Trump, I mean, Trump never has anything but a softball interview now, but Trump was like, I think he was talking to Hannity or someone from Fox.
And they said to Trump, they're like, so J.D. Vance is your successor, right?
And he was like, I wouldn't say that.
I don't know what you're talking about.
And it was just like, dude, you're term limited and he's your vice president.
Why did you pick him if he wasn't your successor?
What was the plan there?
If not that?
To get Ohio.
Yeah, I say, Mr. President, you're going to win Ohio by 10 anyways.
I was?
Fuck.
God damn it.
I don't like that guy.
What the hell?
Todd Jr. and Eric lied to me.
Son of a bitch.
I mean, it's just like, that's the thing is that if you're all these various Republicans who fancy themselves potentially being the president, I mean, Lord knows that after Biden won and Yunkin won in Virginia, Glenn Young was looking in the mirror every day and seeing the next president of the United States smiling back at him.
So, I mean, you got like you got him, all the guys that got smoked in 26 in 2016, like Rubio and Cruz, you know, they want another bite at the apple.
And Vance obviously wants to be president.
So it's like, you're going to have all these guys like circling Trump like lions circling an injured zebra, like younger sons waiting for the king to drop dead.
Exactly.
Yeah, so they start stabbing each other in the back.
Right.
It's, yeah, it's like, yeah, it's like this is just a situation where it's our fantasy country where the throne goes to the strongest king, not the oldest, not the oldest son, but the wisest son.
And now they're all circling pop pop, and pop pop won't declare his successor.
So, and also, he doesn't want to die, he wants to keep running this thing.
I mean, I mean, I keep saying Albion Hasev makes it to 2028, uh, just from his horrible health, his horrible lifestyle, everything.
But I could see him possibly stretching out a nomination to like August of 2028.
Yeah, that's the thing is that I just don't, oh my God, it would be the funniest thing in the world.
Like, and the oh my, and as we are talking, as this is happening, literally, I just refreshed my Twitter.
Trump 2028 is trending on Twitter.
I've been seeing a lot of blue check accounts of guys wearing hats and say 2028, Trump 2028.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
So, I mean, it's like, I'm to anyone, any Republican who wants to do that, please, for the love of God, please, because Trump will be more unpopular than smashing your toe with a brick in 2028.
And he's going to be super senile, and he might not be alive.
So, I mean, I have a lot of reasons for why Trump 2028 is a bad idea for Republicans.
Even in these softball interviews, he's still, I mean, he always kind of fumbled like when, you know, like Hannity would try to get him over the plate on some easy questions and he would just totally botch him.
But now it's like, okay, he said he's going to, he said he's going to Russia on Friday when he's going to Alaska.
He had that weird thing, I think, yesterday, where he kept talking about grass.
Yeah.
He's just, he's, I mean, he's baked.
He's the only reason, the only reason that we're not talking about this all the time is that the media is trying to keep their headline machine chugging along.
So they're not going to say a single word about his cognitive health.
Oh, no.
Oh, no kidding.
I mean, like, literally, there's going to be that moment where Elon, Peter Thiel, and all these other billionaire backers of Vance are going to give the media the high sign to start releasing all the stories about Pop Pop's brain being pudding.
And that'll probably happen.
Again, he's got to live to make it to this because he could easily have an actual physical health crisis that debilitates him from the presidency any day now because the man's in horrible shape physically.
I mean, he might be in the middle of one right now, but there's such a lockdown on information that nobody knows about it.
I mean, our media, our media that treated Joe Biden's health as though it was the greatest crisis this world has ever seen.
And every miss, every misspoken word, every haunting step, every haunting stride the man took, even though we know why he walked gingerly, because he broke his foot right before he became president.
He literally won the election and his dog tackled him and broke his foot.
And all our all the top White House correspondents were like, Hey, President Biden's walking around kind of gimpy.
Yeah, because he's an 82-year-old dude who had his foot broken a couple years ago.
I'm sorry, he's not spry of step because his foot didn't heal right from his dog knocking him over.
But all those people who made everything about Biden's health a story, we get the blow-ups of Trump's hand and all the makeup covering it, and how you can still see the bruising even under the makeup.
And the White House press secretary says, Yeah, he shakes so many hands, it bruises his hand.
And our press just says, Well, that's obvious bullshit, but they don't follow up, they don't push, they don't go, Yeah, yeah, pull my other leg.
Now tell me why he's really hurting.
Tell me what's really going on with his hand.
No one actually wants to know what's going on with his hand.
When if this was Biden, it would have been a 12-alarm blaze.
President's hand is constantly bruised.
What the fuck?
Tell us what's going on with the old man.
But literally, the White House pisses on these reporters' legs and tells them it's raining.
And the reporter's like, I know you're peeing on my leg, but I don't care.
I'm just going to let it go.
Because they don't want to lose their White House badges.
Right, they don't want to lose their access.
Yeah.
Yeah.
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I mean, yeah, that's, I mean, that's what it comes down to because they, because they know that they could, that, that they could badmouth Biden all day long and he'll still let them into the press area briefing.
But, but, Trump, you gotta, you gotta, you gotta tell him that his uh new clothes are shiny and beautiful and that his balls have never looked uh healthier, or you know, or you'll never see the inside of that those doors again.
Yeah, exactly.
And and and the press love him.
Like the the like the first press conference after he got back into office, they were texting each other, we're so back, baby.
They're just like so happy they got their boy back in and he's gonna say dumb shit and give them ratings and clicks.
And oh man, yeah, because he basically does the job for them.
All they have to do for with Biden, they had to sit there and look up stuff and you know, research and everything.
But for Trump, all they got to do is just copy down what he says verbatim and it's and boom, it's news.
Exactly.
Yeah.
And then, and if what you, if what he said verbatim is a little too weird for the normies, you just clean it up a little.
You just sane wash him, just make him sound better for the normies, and then you move along with that.
So, did you hear about um Melania Trump's one billion dollar lawsuit?
Oh, she's gonna hit Hunter Biden with a billion-dollar lawsuit, yeah, yeah, because he because he said that he heard from he heard that Jeffrey Hepstein was telling people that he he introduced Trump to Melania.
Oh, God, that again, everyone's always trying to figure out exactly why Trump is so weird about this and Melania being an Epstein, uh, Like one of his one of his girls, like Melania being one of his girls that he trafficked around and then gave to Trump.
But she seems kind of old for his well, hey, oh, I know, but I'm just saying, like, if that was it's one of it's just one of those things where you're trying to figure out why Trump is so nuts about this, other than just the fact that he was directly involved.
And it's like, what is his tangential relationship to Epstein that's like so freaking him out that he just can't just let this go and get it over with?
It's so strange.
It's like, and sometimes I wonder, like in his more coherent moments, if he, if he's like, he's like, he knows how he can take anything and twist it and make it sound horrible, like, you know, the Hunter Biden laptop from hell or the John Podesta laptop from hell.
And so he's like, okay, if there's so much as Jeffrey Epstein and me went and got BLTs together, you know, it's over.
They're going to do what I would do in this situation and ruin it.
Oh, yeah, exactly.
I mean, that's the thing that's so funny is that like Trump just thinking, if Trump had an above-board friendship with Epstein, he can't even acknowledge that now because he's just twisted himself into so many knots about this.
And it's really incredible the amount of work the right-wing noise machine has done to try to spin anything other than Epstein as a story.
Like this whole Russiagate thing, I really felt like I was going crazy because I was sitting here and I'm like, okay, walk me through the Russiagate story.
What's going on here?
And then my people who knew the Russiate stuff were like, so George Papadopoulos was talking to some Australians about how they had Russia in their back pocket.
And I'm like, yeah, that was eight years ago.
I know that.
They're like, yeah, we're just redoing that.
I'm like, we're how grabs monitor, throws it out window.
Like, how is this even a possible thing?
You're telling me they're literally just rehashing the thing they did in his first term?
And they're like, yeah.
And I'm like, ah, oh, no, my brain is trying to jump out of both my ears.
Why?
I remember seeing a oppressor with Tulsi Gabbard.
And they're like, and they ask her, they're like, okay, so this looks like it's everything that was already cleared by the Senate, including the current Secretary of Defense.
I mean, Secretary of State.
So what in here changes the story?
And Tulsi Gabbard responded with a minute-long word salad that boiled down to, you'll find out.
Like, she could not give them even a hint of what she had that was so damning and that somehow everybody missed eight years ago.
Right.
Like a new witness, something, you know.
Like, that's the thing is that I remember ObamaGate in Trump's first term, and they would ask Trump, they were like, so what did Obama do?
And Trump would be like, you know what he did.
It was terrible.
And the press would just say, so, but what is the crime?
And he'd just be like, look, I'm not even going to get it into it with you.
You all know what happened and it was terrible and it should never have happened to anybody.
And it's just a disgrace what they did to my presidency.
And it was the crime of the century.
And can you name that crime?
You know what the crime is.
Yeah.
It's I know he acts like he was he acts like this is why he was unable to get anything done during the first year of his term because he had this shadow looming over him of Obama.
Oh, breaking good news.
The parent company of InfoWars has been turned over to a state receiver who will now sell it to pay for the pay the Sandy Hook families.
So sorry, go on.
So Info Wars, Info Wars is being taken from Alex Jones and being given to someone who's going to just sell it.
So like the auction didn't have the auction to the onion didn't happen, but now this state receiver is just going to have InfoWars and sell it to someone.
So I know nothing about this kind of stuff.
So I'm just going to let's say I'm cautiously optimistic because I have no idea if there's any meat on the bone here or not.
Oh, well, the thing is that's really funny is Alex has engaged in like so much obvious bankruptcy fraud publicly on his show that it's very possible.
InfoWar Knowledge Fight has brought up the fact that it's very possible he may have committed crimes while trying to avoid all this stuff.
They say the cover-up is worse than the crime.
Oh, yeah, absolutely.
And it's even worse when you do the cover-up directly on your own show to the point where you're literally on air saying, I want you to buy things from this store and not this store.
Because if you buy from this store, I get the money.
If you buy from the other me branded store, I don't get the money due to the Sandy Hook filings.
Like there was this incredible moment on one of the Knowledge Fight episodes that captured it where Alex is like, I need you to keep me in the game.
I need you to buy my high quality supplements.
You need to go to Info.
The InfoWar is what we're fighting.
And you need to go to Dr. Jones.com because he was just so programmed to say you need to go to Infowars.store.com to buy my shit.
And he caught himself because he's like, no, don't go to InfoWarsStore.com.
Because if you do, the Sandy Hook people get that money.
You got to go to this store that's owned by my dad, Wink Wink, that's outside of that.
And Alex has also been throwing a fit because the bankruptcy people have now filed a lawsuit against his father because Alex gave his father, I think he gave him like a bunch of sports cars and some other property that was his.
Yeah, remember, didn't he do that while the trial was still ongoing?
Yes.
He knew he was going to lose.
Well, he had defaulted.
So it was literally just the penalty stage.
So he knows he's going to get hit for something.
He doesn't know that it's going to be over a billion dollars, but he knows he's going to get taken to the cleaners for some millions of dollars.
So he just starts like giving all kinds of property to people who are not him in an effort to keep it away from the bankruptcy proceedings.
And I mean, why I can't figure out that.
I mean, he's doing this stuff that's so nakedly obvious that somebody like me who knows nothing about the law can see what he's doing.
I mean, does he not have lawyers?
Does he not listen to them?
Does he have shit lawyers?
What's going on here?
Who knows?
I mean, I just think it's like he's the kind of guy that's just gotten away with it his whole life.
And he's like, fuck it.
They'll never get me, Copper.
It's just that kind of shit where you just think, yeah, it's never blown back on me before.
Why would it blow back on me now?
And you're just running with it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So I just think that it's really interesting.
And it's, yeah.
So fuck that guy.
I'm so glad to see that like this, the slow turning wheels of justice have made it so that the next like, because Knowledge Fight's like still like six weeks behind because they're now covering Alex's descent into Epstein hell.
And it's so funny to me watching people on like between QAnon people freaking out about it and Alex Jones freaking out about it.
There's nothing I enjoy more than seeing all these like high-minded political pundits like tutting and being like, no, this Epstein thing isn't damaging Trump at all.
I don't know what you're talking about.
Meanwhile, every QAnon promoter I know is like fighting off angry hordes of their fans screaming about Trump being a pederist.
And Alex Jones is like literally about to go back to the bottle and become a drunk again.
It's so funny listening to him be totally broken.
He's just like, look, I support 95% of what Trump does.
It's like, oh, but the 5% of him fucking kids is a problem, Alex.
Really?
That other 5% just ruins it a little for you?
Just yucks your yum a little.
Yeah, it's not a deal breaker.
Yeah, it's not a deal breaker, but it's kind of annoying.
It's like, man, I wish my hero wasn't a pederist, but he's doing great things on the border and the economy.
Oh, it's roaring like a choo-choo train.
It's like, oh, yeah, I know, all these MAGA treating their leader possibly being a pedophile as if he has an annoying laugh.
Right, exactly.
And there's my annoying laugh in comparison.
yeah, it's just, oh, God, yeah, it's so funny.
Like, that's the thing that's so awesome about like, because back in the day, these grifters, before they got trapped in the Trump QAnon web, where like everyone found out that if you like talk about the government, Trump arresting all the bad guys and Trump being the savior, you get way more likes, you get way more attention.
Like back in the day, Alex was just the kind of guy that'd be like, two wings of the same corrupt bird, like don't support the system.
Maybe back, maybe Ron Paul is a real guy that could do a thing if anything went right for us.
Yeah, those guys were definitely very independent leaning back then where they're like the Democrats and the Republicans both suck equally.
Right.
And that was the thing is that, Alex, you can just go right back to that.
You could just be like, yeah, they're all terrible and we got to fight them.
And the only way you can fight them was with my high quality supplements.
But instead, all of Alex's like whining now is, look, man, if Trump wasn't in, Kamala would be in.
And the Democrats are definitely satanic baby eaters.
And Trump's only maybe a satanic baby eater.
So that's so much better.
I mean, it's like, it's like, dude, can you hear yourself talk?
Can you hear yourself?
Do you imagine Alex Jones from 15 years ago hearing this shit and hearing you sell your soul to this horrible human being?
It's hilarious.
I mean, that's basically what they have.
They just, they, they went so all in that there's no backing out now.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
It's like, it's basically like they got, you know, they took some money from the mafia and then suddenly they realize that all their debt is owned by the mafia and they're fucked.
Yes, exactly.
Yeah, this, this is, this is the bust out.
This is where you're, you, you, now you can't pay rent and now the mob is just going to take your business, blow it up, and collect the insurance.
Yeah.
It's, and, and it couldn't happen to a nicer bunch of people.
Oh, absolutely not.
Absolutely not.
Yeah, it's great.
Oh, uh, if we could take a quick break from uh MAGA, uh, because speaking of uh lawsuits, you heard about um uh Jim Stewartson and Cash Patel.
I think we covered that last time.
Yeah, he defaulted.
We were laughing about him.
We were we were rubbing his nose in it about him being a terrible human being.
It's pretty great.
Okay, I couldn't.
Okay, maybe I missed that part.
I did have to get up a couple points, but uh, yeah, yeah, our boy Jim.
I mean, and the funniest thing about all of that is that it's a free speech issue.
This is like one of the easiest lawsuits to fend off if you have any coherency about you at all.
America's free speech laws are incredibly liberal, and yet this idiot managed to default on it.
He managed to screw himself over to the point where he lost a default judgment.
He just like hid in a corner until the court said, Well, he's not participating, so go to hell.
Boom, done.
Yeah.
And it's, and he's like, you could see how it, that he's just trying anything he can to try to like, because for a while, he was like, what lawsuit?
And then, like, like, literally, like, uh, he, he posted something from like, I think, like, somebody was talking about it, and he's like, Cash Patel never sued me.
I don't know what I don't owe him anything.
And it's like, what world are you?
I mean, like, like, even, even his most stalwart people got to be like, dude, you've been talking about this lawsuit for years.
How could you now pretend it didn't happen?
Just ridiculous.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, God, Jim, Jim, you idiot.
It's really frustrating to me that you could have like discord inside like a debunking community like this.
Like, like, we're all here to like find the truth.
We're all here to expose what QAnon is doing and the damage it's inflicting on the country.
And this clown just runs in here and tells everybody, I got all the answers.
And if you don't believe me, 100%, you're part of the problem.
You're on Michael Flynn's payroll.
Just what are, what are you trying to achieve?
The answer is, you're trying to build your own brand and you're just trying to get people to follow you and you exclusively.
I'm the only one who can fix this.
And that's like fucking bullshit demagoguery.
And you don't know what you're talking about.
Because every time we got into this, you really had no, you had no justification for why Flynn started Q. Like, you had no proof for it because there is no proof.
No one is going to figure out who started this shit.
Like, there's no phantom discourse chat log or 4chan account verification thing that would show us who was the idiot who said that Hillary's passport was going to be flagged.
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I mean, like, sometimes I think maybe it'll be like, you know, when we finally found out who Deep Throat was or something.
Yeah, but the Deep Throat was a guy who wanted to reveal himself.
Like, Paul Ferber isn't going to come out and go, I was Q, because Paul Ferber has spent forever denying it.
And even if Paul Ferber did come out and say he was Q, he would need to have actual evidence to back that up.
And I don't see that.
I really don't.
Yep.
Yeah.
This beautiful information age we live in where things can still slip through the cracks.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
And I mean, that's the, I mean, that's why you would do that on 4chan because it would be really hard to figure out who did it because that's what 4chan was all about: massive anonymity and just say whatever you want.
And my favorite thing about all of it is the fact that this was just some clown yes and another clown on 4chan.
Like one guy was like, Hillary's going to be arrested tomorrow.
And this guy just jumped in.
Yes, she will.
And her passport has been flagged.
And other countries have been talked to about what happens.
And Soros is already funding the riot.
So the National Guard's been called up to quell them.
And then the guy who posted that, who said that wasn't going to happen in a couple of days, was so horny that 90 minutes later he said that Hillary was in custody.
It just always makes me laugh that the guy couldn't even keep his own story straight for and for two hours.
He couldn't even keep it straight for two hours.
He immediately came back and said, oh, they already got her.
They're about to perp walk her.
And then I guess she called Perry Mason or Matlock or something and got away with it.
Just ah, oh, beans.
Oh, she had a good lawyer.
She grabbed her clone by accident.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Like, that's one of my favorite things is idiots just saying the weakest thing possible to get to justify their failure of their conspiracy from happening.
I remember in Out of Shadows when Steele, Robert Steele, was talking about Michael Aqueno and he said that Michael Aqueno had been ID'd by 20 to 30 kids as the guy that had assaulted them.
And then he said he had a good lawyer.
And I'm like, oh, so a good lawyer Is all you need to get away with serial child molestation?
Man, America sucks.
That sounds terrible.
Wow, slam dunk case, two dozen witnesses lined up.
Yep.
And the lawyer's just like, well, he mispronounced, he mispronounced one word in the Miranda rights.
Yep.
And the judge is like, done.
Case dismissed.
Wham.
And the prosecutor.
I know you're guilty, but my hands are tied.
Yeah, exactly.
It's just like so funny.
It's just like the greatest thing in the world.
Just the it's the one shot is my favorite thing from these idiots, which how was Durham not the one shot?
And what happens if like if they actually go through and indict Adam Schiff or some random Democrat?
Like, because we kind of got veered away from Russia Gate, but Russia Gate is the new thing.
The new shiny jangling keys that Trump and his minions are trying to dangle in front of people.
It's basically the one that stuck.
And I'm surprised it took him this long to be like, hey, let's bring up Obama.
They all hate Obama.
Right, exactly.
I mean, it's just that.
And it's just like the funniest thing.
And like, the, but it's, but if they actually did, if they actually did indict anybody or did any of this stuff, then just open themselves up to discovery and all the other nightmares that that's going to involve.
It's, it's just, holy shit.
You're, you're not going to do anything with it.
And one of the big QAnon promoters claims is, look, guys, we only got one shot.
If it's not perfect, we're going to lose.
We're, we're, we like the, the evil, the evil rule of the world for forever.
And so what happens if Adam Schiff is the only guy indicted?
Was that the one shot?
Are we over now?
Did we just lose?
Are we beaten?
And if not, then what is this?
Because we're still waiting.
I still need to know when the one shot counts as the one shot because Durham getting Kevin Kleinsman to get a year probation and then indicting and not convicting two coffee boys somehow wasn't the one shot, I guess.
So yeah, the masses need to wake up.
That's my favorite part.
Just the idea that we're all going to riot.
We're all going to burn down America if Obama and Hillary get indicted.
No, we're going to say this is bullshit.
And where are the Epstein files?
I mean, I know I've mentioned this several times on Twitter, but I can't think if I brought it up on here or not.
But it's like all these people are like, well, we can't just arrest Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton because people would flip out.
It's like, but we arrested Donald Trump.
I mean, wouldn't that have softened the blow somewhat that, oh, hey, a former president can be indicted.
Okay.
Is baby eating Barack Obama, who would have lost, who would have lost all 50 states in a fair election, also universally beloved and nobody could ever conceive of him committing a crime?
I mean, which one is it?
Yeah, that I love bringing that up.
I love bringing up that dichotomy that, like, as you just said, Hillary Clinton is this universally reviled scumbag that Donald Trump would have beaten in an unbelievable landslide.
But she's also so beloved that if she got indicted, we would all burn America down for her.
It's so it's like, what is it?
Do we hate her or do we love her?
Like, let us know.
And the answer is we feel about her the way they need us to feel about her for that moment.
Yeah.
Oh, you just reminded me.
So I know we've moved past the lived to move past the Sydney Sweeney outrage, but according to my right-wing tracker, I'm now supposed to be outraged about sorority girls dancing.
I love the sorority girl dancing stuff.
It makes me laugh so much because the hard right and the anti-Semite neo-Nazi right, they love talking about how pornography is a Jewish plot to destroy our morality in America.
And they love getting up in arms about women having an OnlyFans.
So the level of sexuality they're willing to tolerate is this incredibly PG clothed teenage girls dancing for their sorority rush weeks.
And it's like, so that is your maximum level of sexiness these girls are allowed to have because if they if they make an OnlyFans or if there's any pornography involved, that is the actual death of America.
That is the destruction of Western morality.
But liberals hate sexy dancing ladies.
I wasn't aware that I hated that.
This is news to me.
This is breaking news to me that I don't like hot chicks dancing.
Yeah, it's really hard to be a perverted prude in this world.
It's yeah, it's I just truly don't understand.
I truly don't understand.
And while you mentioned that, I thought of something because like, yeah, they had very weird ideas of what counts as sexy or not, because recently somebody, you know how every now and then somebody will like a comment you made like three years ago?
Yeah.
I saw one where somebody liked a comment where I had made where I guess somebody had been complaining about you know woke Disney and how in She-Hulk they had the main character and Megan the Stallion doing doing some kind of sexual dance.
And I'm like, okay, I watched that show.
I know the scene you're talking about.
There was nothing remotely sexual about their dancing.
It was just two ladies dancing in a lawyer's office.
And I think she was twerking.
Twerking is sexy.
But I mean, that's what I'm saying.
The only thing I could think of is that, okay, the swordy girls dancing are all are all, I'm not going to say white because I've been told there are many minorities in there, but they're all pale-skinned and light-haired, whereas neither the woman playing She-Hulk nor Megan thee Stallion count is that.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
They just want to police women's sexuality.
And they also want to.
Yeah, they want to decide what is.
They want to be the Supreme Court who knows porn when they see it.
Right.
Yeah.
I mean, it's, yeah, they want to police this.
They want to make the decisions.
And they'll tell you what's okay.
And they'll also let you know that what they like owns Libs.
That somehow Libs will be upset about it.
And it's really interesting that we've created this bizarre sort of media ecosystem where anything any person says online is immediately representative of mainstream democratic thinking.
But anything right-wingers say it does not impact Donald Trump at all.
Like Donald Trump has lunch with Nick Fuentes, a neo-Nazi, and that does not make Donald Trump a neo-Nazi.
Because all he has to do is say, oh, I didn't know he said that stuff.
Right.
And water off a duck's back.
It just doesn't impact him.
Yeah, he was just some guy who was invited by another guy.
That's all I know.
That's all I know.
You think I'm going to vet somebody just because they're coming into the White House?
Right.
Meanwhile, first name bunch of numbers says this Sidney Sweeney ad is a dog whistle for neo-Nazis.
And suddenly the White House is weighing in on these crazy liberals hate big natties.
This shows you why the woke left will never win another election ever.
And the mainstream media is like, yeah, you swing scoop.
These liberals are crazy.
And it's like, no, first name bunch of numbers doesn't represent the left.
They're not Gavin Newsom's press secretary.
They're not Gavin Newsom or J.B. Brewster or Josh Shapiro or any of these other people.
They're not Democrats.
But nope, they just totally represent us.
Meanwhile, Donald Trump is hanging out with Oath Keepers and Nick Fuentes and all this other stuff.
And everyone on his staff had a fucking chapter in Project 2025.
But Donald Trump's like, Project 2025, I don't know what that is.
And the media's like, oh, he's distanced himself from Project 2025.
He's not going to do that when he becomes president.
No way, no way, no how.
And it's something I've heard, I've seen on Twitter, like a lot of accounts run by a lot of like accounts who are like supposed to be like influence for like, you know, black culture and stuff, where they'll be like, you know, anytime a black person does something wrong, every single one of us is supposed to come out and denounce it.
And I'm like, yeah, and I'm thinking about that for a minute.
I'm like, yeah, I've never once been asked to denounce.
Like nobody came up to me and said, do you think Timothy F. McVay was wrong to bomb the building in the Oklahoma City or anything like that?
And it's like, you know, that's right.
I've never once been held to account for anything a white guy ever did.
But, you know, but Jesse Smollett, you know, certainly is black America the moment he fakes a mugging.
Right, exactly.
Like, yeah, collective guilt is never assigned to white people.
But if any minority commits any crime, then everyone involved in that minority is guilty by association with them.
It's very simple.
Yeah.
Unless they speak out against it immediately.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
You got to knock your grandmother over on the way to the microphone to denounce it.
Yeah, say it while it's happening or it's too late.
Yes, yes.
Oh, yeah.
He sat on his hands for too long.
It was five minutes ago.
Nope.
He tacitly endorsed it.
That reminds me of all these MAGA who are like, Hillary Clinton, Hillary Clinton took forever to concede the election.
It's like she probably, she went to sleep and when she woke up, she conceded the election, whereas Donald Trump has yet to concede the 2020 election.
That was my favorite thing in the Q drops was that Q made it a big deal.
Q literally said that Hillary didn't concede.
And I pointed that out that she did.
And all the replies I got were people who were saying she didn't concede immediately.
And it's like she conceded the morning after.
Like the election was running late, but it was trending towards Trump winning.
So literally their favorite boogeyman, John Podesta, like got in front of the podium and was like, go home, everybody.
This kind of sucks.
See you all tomorrow on a darker day.
And then that morning, Hillary came out and said, yep, Trump won.
This sucks.
I mean, if we want to get into that, I think Kamala waited for the evening to concede.
So, I mean, she was the absolute biggest devil ever.
She waited an extra like six hours beyond Hillary before tapping out.
I mean, it's the dumbest thing.
Just the double standard that exists on everything in this world is so incredible.
And yet, and yet, if you bring this up, people will look at you like you have seven heads and they will scream at you about the liberal media, which does not exist.
We do not have a liberal media.
And it's the goalpost moving too, because I remember there was a lot of that, like, because when I, when the whole Epstein thing was first going on, like when he was going to trial before and all this stuff, everyone was always talking about his Manhattan, his Manhattan.
I don't know if it was a mansion or a townhouse.
I've heard both.
Yeah.
Yeah, it doesn't really matter.
But either way, everyone said that's where all the action was happening.
Okay, poor choice of words.
That's where the child trafficking was happening.
He was having, he was having young girls brought in like on the daily and everything.
And then all these people are like, okay, well, you know, anybody who was ever on Epstein's plane needs to be investigated.
And then it turns out Donald Trump was on the plane.
And then all of a sudden, and all of a sudden, record scratch.
No, I mean anybody who ever went on the airplane to Epstein's island.
And I'm like, wait, Epstein had an island?
And so now that's anything, all anybody ever talks about is Lolita Island.
You never hear anybody mention the Manhattan home anymore, the one that was a stone's throw away from, you know, Trump Tower on Fifth Avenue.
I mean, like, and I'm not, you know, disclaimer, I'm not saying that Trump went down there and did stuff for kids.
I'm just, I'm just saying that they, they moved the colpos and for whatever reason, everybody went along with it.
Yeah, now the island became the new talking point.
Like you had to go to the island to be a bad person.
And it's like, how about Just being associated with Epstein and not distancing yourself from him after the first conviction.
Like, that's the thing is that I actually had a conversation with someone and they explained to me like why Epstein got such a good deal on the first case.
And it was just kind of, it was one of those things where the witnesses were not great because it was, they didn't go to the cops.
The cops kind of came to them and was like, look, we know something happened.
Tell us about it.
And like juries hate it when the cops like press you to get information.
And like some of the girls who had been trafficked by Epstein had gone back to sex work or they had gone back to the island even after it happened, which again is totally something that happens when you're traumatized and you're under the grips of a sexual predator like Epstein.
But to a jury, it's like, looks like she's enjoying it to me.
I don't know what you're talking about.
So like all of that stuff led to him getting the slap on the wrist.
And also he had Alan Dershowitz, who is a great lawyer and also, also incredibly scummy.
And apparently very jealous that Epstein got away with what he did for as long as he did.
Yes.
And so, but that's the thing is that even though Epstein like got his due in the legal system that way, it was a slap on the wrist.
If you were a member of polite society, you should have shunned him at that point.
And it's very obvious that Trump didn't.
And that should have been a black mark against him.
But nobody gave a shit.
But yeah, everybody always claims that he found out what Epstein was doing and kicked him out.
And it's like, well, one, because they always make it sound like he knew he, you know, he knew where the bodies were buried.
I'm like, well, why didn't he go to the police then?
And two, the reason why he kicked him out of Mar-a-Lago and they stopped being friends was because of this whole real estate thing where they both wanted the same house in Palm Beach and Epstein got it and Trump didn't.
Right.
Yeah.
But that's the thing.
Because I mean, it, you know, the whole thing with the victims and the police going to him and everything is not just in this case, but in so many, like you saw it so much in the Me Too movement that these people don't understand, you know, like the psychological reaction to being victimized like this.
They don't, they, they, they, they, they, you know, they see, they see these women going along, apparently appearing to go along with it.
And you're like, oh, well, you know, they're, they're obviously willing, you know, willing participants.
And it's like, well, no, they're, you know, they're psychologically damaged and they're, they're probably doing what they, they're, they're probably, you know, like the, their, their scars won't let them see what they're doing or they're doing what they think is the path of least resistance.
I mean, there's so many, like, you know, why, why did she wait so many years before she said anything?
I might be probably because she was so effing traumatized that she couldn't bring herself to even talk to herself about it, let alone, let alone relive the worst moment of her life over and over again in front of a bunch of strangers.
And it finally took that one breaking point where she's like, I got to get this out.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
I mean, how people process trauma is personal.
Yeah.
None of us, none of us know what's going through anybody else's head.
And it's just.
Yeah.
One thing I'd like to point out, nobody like people always be like, well, you know what I would have done if I was there?
I'm like, no, you don't know what you would have done because if it hasn't happened to you, you don't know how you'll react to it.
Right, exactly.
Let alone how anybody else who's not you would react to it.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's just an ugly situation all around.
But yeah, so I just, man, it's just this endless situation of us just spinning our wheels, being stuck dealing with this dog shit politics, this idiot that has consumed our politics for over a decade now.
And we're now like getting through year one of this four-year term.
And yeah, that's Psy.
Man, it's just like God.
And just everything about everything is just so depressing.
It's just like, man.
And now we have this bullshit where he calls in the National Guard to DC.
And now a guy hits somebody with a sandwich.
So they're going to throw him in.
They're going to throw him in Gitmo.
Oh, and apparently, at least according to what's her name?
Oh, my God.
I can't remember her name.
Bondi.
Bondi.
Yeah, Bondi.
According to Bondi, he worked for the doj too the guy who threw the sandwich yep so so he's fired on top of everything else yeah of course but uh i know uh like i was talking about it to somebody and they're like and and i'm like yeah they're now they're planning on going to you know now they're planning on going to chicago and uh other places and you know like why is he doing this and i'm like i could think of so many reasons but it's it's like it's like but
of course you know he's only going after these blue cities that uh moga have been complaining about for decades like because i was saying there's all these cities with higher homicide rates than dc but but you know it's it's it's it's but if you say i'm sending troops to chicago rather rather than i'm sending cops to st. Louis, you know, it has much more of an impact.
Yeah.
Yeah, exactly.
I mean, like, and that's the thing is that what he, what he wants to do is to actually lock these cities down under martial law and like arrest the arrest the democratic leadership of these cities.
Like he wants to, he's trying, he's testing the temperature for trying to go full military to like authoritarian.
And obviously he's able to get away with it in DC because it's federal and he can pull bullshit.
But he can only do it in this circumstance.
He can't do it if, say, an angry mob was attacking the Capitol building.
Oh, no, that's yeah, that's something people have been bringing up a lot.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's weird.
It's weird how he controls the National Guard for this.
But on January 6th, that evil Nancy Pelosi wouldn't let it happen.
I know, I had this one guy who admitted that Trump did have the authority to call the National Guard on January 6th, but Pelosi never asked him to.
And I'm like, he has to, he can only do it if somebody asks him to.
He's not allowed to do it under his own authority.
He has to be like, look, this person asked me to do it.
Yep.
And the guy never responded to me on that one.
Oh, of course.
Of course.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Ah, God.
Just spinning our wheels, like, just the fact that you have people willing to chase after the laser pointer of Russia Gate and all this bullshit and sorority girls dancing and just anything, anything, anything but the Empstein files.
And tomorrow we're going to have the big meeting between Trump and Putin in Alaska.
And QAnon thinks we're going to get peace in Ukraine.
And I'm hearing from the left that supposedly he's already handing over mineral rights in Alaska to Putin as like a as like a sweetening to get him out of Ukraine.
I would, yeah, I've seen that, but like, oh my God, that would be the weirdest thing.
Yeah.
If he actually did that.
But especially since, you know, he's talking about trading rare earth rights and that's and that's what he's trying to get from Ukraine.
So why would he give up the thing he's trying to get?
Yeah.
Yeah, it's just, it's really strange.
It's a very strange thing that's going on there.
But whatever happened, I mean, what I think will happen is nothing will happen.
It'll be a shitty press conference.
We're going to get a shitty press conference where Trump's going to clown himself in front of the world and QAnon's going to get their comms because Putin's going to give him a soccer ball or something.
And they're going to be like, oh, God, that ball has the dumb drive in it that's going to bring down the deep state or whatever, like, just like at Helsinki.
But I mean, Ukraine and Europe aren't going to agree to anything that involves permanent territory loss and Ukraine not being allowed into NATO and all the rest of it because they know that any ending of hostilities that doesn't result in a permanent security plan for Ukraine means Russia's just going to rearm and do this again.
Russia will never stop until they take all of Ukraine.
That's the point.
Like that's the Putin wants to reestablish the Soviet Union, so he's just going to conquer all the former nations that were part of the Soviet Union.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, go ahead.
I think it's going to be, I think it's just going to be like Helsinki again.
Yeah, they went in there, they spoke behind closed doors with no, with you know, had the translator burn their notes in the dark of night, and then they go in front of a in front of cameras and Trump says something incredibly stupid, and then it's done.
Yep, oh, yeah, but I mean, that's and the sad thing is that's the best case scenario, yeah.
Ugh.
My god, yeah, what a world!
Yep, truly a magical world, truly a magical world, yeah, oh boy.
So, anything else on your mind?
Or you've been thinking about it the last couple minutes.
No, I think we covered the stuff that I've been following this this last week or so.
Yeah, I'm about there too.
I mean, it's fun to have these little two this week, a two-person group therapy session, just howling at the moon, just howling at the moon.
It's all you can do, it's catharsis.
Yep, you laugh so you don't cry.
That's about it.
Yep, so anyhow, thanks everybody for listening to uh listening to two white guys on a podcast ranting, aka all podcasts everywhere.
Am I yep, so thank you all for listening.
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Have a good night, everybody.
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