Adventures in HellwQrld - Adventures in HellwQrld Presents: Bro Science!

Aug. 3, 2025 - Adventures in HellwQrld

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Adventures in HellwQrld Presents: Bro Science!

This week we talk about all the woo woo nonsense that infects the right wing when it comes to health. Also we get a bit into incel culture and looksmaxing. Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/hellwqrld. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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	The Adventures in Hellworld podcast talks in depth about QAnon.
	While it's meant to be comedic informative, sometimes we have to get in into things like child abuse and violence against people.
	Listener discretion advised.
	Hello, everybody.
	I am Mike Raines, aka Poker and Politics, and welcome to another episode of Adventures in Hellworld.
	This week, I am joined as always by Haley, aka Chaley, aka Arizona Right Watch.
	What up to my bros?
	It's the bro episode.
	We're broing down.
	Yep.
	And I am also joined by co-star Eric, the deep state operative.
	I'm glad we figured that all out on Twitter last night.
	I was pretty incensed.
	That made me chuckle.
	That made me chuckle a lot.
	Yeah, you probably didn't see it, Haley, because you're not on Twitter.
	Twitter, but I was posting on there.
	I said, okay, I've been doing Hellworld for a while.
	And Mike is indisputably the host.
	And Haley is co-host.
	So I'm like, what does that make me?
	Am I like, am I like part of the whackpack?
	Am I, am I like Guillermo to his Jimmy Skimmel?
	How does this work?
	You are the and.
	You're the guy that doesn't get, you don't get the first or second billing.
	So you work hard for your agent to make sure you get the and.
	So after all the other people in the cast get listed, then it says and Eric the Deep said, Operative at the end.
	And so boom.
	Introducing.
	Introducing in the end.
	That's what you got to have your agent fight for when you're working on this stuff.
	If you were following my Twitter at all, I posted about how people, all these Q ⁇ A people are writing screenplays about Obama and Trump talking to each other.
	They're making all this fan fiction of their heroes and villains battling each other in witty dialogues.
	And someone actually replied to me and was like, I'll make a screenplay for you about this.
	And a million years ago, I did a pilot episode.
	I did write a screenplay.
	I wrote like a pilot episode for a QAnon-based procedural for a network.
	And it was terrible.
	It was absolute trash.
	The problem was is that I showed it to a couple people and they were like, here are the litany of problems we have with your screenplay.
	And I was like, thank you.
	Do you want to help me work on those problems?
	And they were like, fuck no.
	No, we do not.
	You come up with the second draft yourself, buddy.
	And I was like, but you're my creative friends.
	And that's why I turned to you.
	And they were like, yeah, we can pick out the flaws.
	We can't fix them.
	So go to hell.
	And I was like, ah, Don.
	aw dogs aw beans i remember uh i remember when i was in high school way back in the 20th century uh my a friend of me a friend of mine of me our goal was to be like the second coming of gene ronnenberry um so we had this big sci-fi show we'd planned out we had all these big ideas and it was like it was like you know like species that have been around for 10 000 years and humanity is just getting started, all this stuff, big battles.
	And then like looking back on it now, I'm like, okay, this was.
	Star Trek Next Generation with the serial numbers filed off.
	We were so ripping off Star Trek, it's not even funny.
	Yeah, not even trying.
	Not even trying.
	That's okay.
	Just call it parody, and you can run that.
	You can run the series of that.
	Well, Next Generation was still on the air at the time, so it was kind of a too soon deal, you know?
	It was like, you know, McFarlane can get away with it now doing the Orville because now it's, you know, retro, and it's an homage.
	But back then, it just would have been a ripoff.
	Do you like Next Gen?
	Do you like?
	Yeah, that's what got me into Star Trek was Next Generation.
	Yeah, Next Generation was my jam.
	i i really it makes me laugh because of the fact that basically patrick stewart only took the job because all his buddies were like yo it's hollywood money and it's a dumb show you'll go in there it'll be cancelled in two seasons and you'll be back in you'll be back in london doing more uh theatrical work yeah and he was like sounds good and then next thing you know it's a 20 season thing and it's his biggest thing that he did in his career you like deep space nine Deep Space Nine is great.
	Yeah.
	The problem is, is I didn't actually watch all of it.
	I dipped out after like season four or five for whatever reason.
	I think it was one of those things where like I just lost the network it was on.
	That's where this story arc really starts kicking.
	Right.
	What I'm saying is I completely missed out on the big payoff.
	I missed out on the Dominion Wars and how all that great stuff.
	I've caught up, I haven't watched it, but I've caught up on all the clips and I know what happens.
	And I'm like, yeah, that's a great payoff to that.
	It's the reverse of what happened to Babylon 5.
	So, I mean, it's just really funny.
	Yeah.
	And they got the idea from JMS too.
	So it all comes full circle.
	Yeah.
	Well, I mean, that's the thing is that like Deep Space Nine was, I mean, they did do some procedural stuff, but it was, it was like Babylon 5 where it was a serial where it was like episodes built upon episodes and then you had to actually get caught up.
	It wasn't just Monster of the Week or random sci-fi encounter of the week.
	It was actual, like, we were building characters.
	We were building plot points.
	I mean, the whole thing was J. Michael Straczynski, he was like, I'm not saying that Paramount stole my idea, but a year before D-Spaceline came out, I came up to them and said, hey, I got an idea for a TV show about a bunch of people who live on a space station and weird stuff keeps showing up.
	And they're like, yeah, we're going to pass.
	Oh, yeah.
	My favorite thing with J. Michael Straczynski is that so many idiots, like he literally has like made it abundantly clear, if you tell me the idea for a story, I cannot do it and now this, it will never happen.
	and people keep doing that to him anyways and he's just like yeah that that happened weird al yankovic says the same thing because that's lawsuit country right there right it's like hey al here's some lyrics for a parody he's like great now i can never make that question have either of you guys like like seen or liked the original star trek series it's i've watched enough episodes and i mean it's It's hokey.
	That's exactly what I was going to use.
	It is.
	It's so hokey.
	For the time it came out in, it was groundbreaking and great.
	And there are some good, important messages that still resonate today but yeah it's super hokey it's very hokey i you know you mentioned monster of the week and it's like babe of the week for shatner yeah in right in the original series right he he's just he's just banging green chicks and he's banging a blue chick and it's just like man what the hell's going on here but uh the thing i liked about the original series though is that it is campy and like the modern like if you just watch it and
	like for what it is uh i love like the costumes and the creatures and just like star trek's always been pretty good about like making costumes and creatures yeah and you got to remember that's true that's the original show was made on a shoestring budget.
	Oh, yeah.
	Spend pennies on the dollar.
	Yeah.
	Oh, but going back to what started all this stuff was I basically that guy who said, I'll make a silly screenplay about QAnon.
	So I DM that guy and I told him that here's the bullet points for my pilot episode of the QAnon show that I had in my head.
	And that guy was like, oh, wow, that's really interesting.
	Let me think about this.
	And I was like, just give me executive producer credit when it gets picked up by Peacock.
	when you make the pilot and it actually works out, just have me somewhere buried in the credits as being part of this.
	But, um, because...
	Mike Rainn!
	Oh, yeah.
	Oh, God.
	Yeah.
	No, no, I just want an executive.
	I want there to be like six executive producers on that page.
	And I'm like number four.
	I'm completely hidden.
	I'm completely anonymous.
	It's just three guys that put in actual work, Mike Reigns, and then two more guys who put in actual work.
	That's just it.
	And if anyone's like, oh, that weirdo guy who talks about QAnon and Shirley Manson on Twitter, he got the executive producer credit.
	That's odd.
	Yeah.
	Maybe they could do like with Gene Roninberg and they could, and in the credits for everything, say, based on QAnon by Mike Reigns.
	rains yeah yeah that that would be horrifying that would be like the absolute worst possible outcome that would that would completely validate jim stewartson he was right i was behind qanon this whole time he finally he caught me that that scoundrel that hoodlum i kind of wonder sometimes if any stew and on guys hate watch this show and then and they run back to him and go they're talking about you again jim I think they do.
	I think they're absolutely screwed.
	That would be awesome.
	I really hope they do.
	Because like, bi-monthly, I make like $110 in ad revenue from this show.
	So thank you for the seven cents Jim Stewartson fan club that hate listens to this.
	Oh man, you're you you you you line my coffers with approximately like $51 a month.
	So thank you so much for your for your time and effort.
	It is greatly appreciated.
	Shout out to our listeners.
	Yes.
	Yes.
	And love all three of you guys.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	That's the thing is like actually I actually had one of our ancient listeners from the from the bygone days uh Reverend Xenofact and Cleodora Silvestri, the Grand Inquisitor.
	They actually like emailed me.
	I'm like, hey, we're checking back in.
	Like, we enjoy the show, like the turnover and the crew and the new format, Rocks.
	We're happy with you.
	Just wanted to let you know that like, we're still around.
	And I was like, thanks.
	I miss the Grand Inquisitor.
	But yeah, that's good.
	I like that.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, so all of...
	John Brown?
	Yes, let's talk about big nadties and how obviously if you're offended by big nadties, you are a Democrat and you are the Democrats because I do believe it was Nancy Pelosi who came out against big naddies and Chuck Schumer and Hucking Jeffries.
	And in Kamala Harris' note, not running for governor of California, she also mentioned that she was deeply offended by Sidney Sweeney's big naddies.
	She said, no jugs here.
	Yes.
	Yeah.
	You say that because, you know, Nancy Pelosi does kind of have big naddies.
	I'll take your word for it.
	Never look once.
	Actually, I'll have to find that photo of Nancy Pelosi and JFK.
	They look pretty good together.
	oh yes they were contemporaries i guess well she's young she's young in the photo well yeah that's what i'm saying but i'm saying like she's younger than him yeah yeah he'd be over 100 if he was uh alive today right which he is he is all the other ones hitler and them Okay, I was referencing Joe Walt, Joe Walt, Walsh.
	I'm not sure I saw that one.
	I mean, I've seen a few things, but I haven't seen any like real names talking about this.
	I saw the White House come out with saying that they're defending Sydney Sweeney's big naddies.
	The actual White House page came out with, we support Sydney Sweeney's huge knockers like how dare you know i need to say at this point maybe we should give it a little context for like the three people who don't know about this well i mean i mean i mean there's there's somebody out i mean there's somebody out there who doesn't know who the president is right now so So we should never assume that everybody knows what we're talking about.
	Every comic book is somebody's first.
	this started actually like last year when she appeared on snl and henania was like sydney sweeney's boobs destroyed woke and it was like okay that was i remember that one's ass tweet uh what is what are we saying here but they kind of latched on to this narrative yeah i remember like i think it was like charlie kirk maybe going on and saying you know that the libs hate hate sydney sweeney because she's hot and sexy and they and they don't like hot and
	sexy of course everybody hates hot and sexy yes i'm sexy has been so out and everybody i'm excited to tell you that yes Justin Timber like brought it back again yes um but yeah the unfortunately, I'm, you know, I've seen like season one of Euphoria, so I am semi familiar with her.
	Oh, is that the show she's on?
	Yeah, it was Zendaya on HBO.
	Okay.
	Years ago, I saw that.
	I mean, I know Zendaya as MJ from, you know, the MCU, so I'm not, I'm not about hip to the stuff the kids are watching these days.
	I think like, like, like, Euphoria kind of made Zendaya big and then she became like the like, I'm in Spider-Man, I'm in Dune, I'm in everything.
	She's kind of it girl.
	Sydney Sweeney's kind of it girl.
	Yeah.
	Like there's a series of it girls right now.
	We're doing girly pop.
	Are we doing girly pop?
	We might as well.
	All the right wingers are dipping in the celebrity culture.
	So I just love how the left hates this.
	And I'm like, I have yet to meet a single person on the left who gives a flying fuck about Sydney Sweeney, you know, showing her knockers off for American Eagle.
	It was like my personal stance on it is.
	If some young person is look, sees those commercials and has the same reaction that 12 year old me did to watching Cindy Crawford drinking a diet Pepsi, then, you know, more power to them.
	Those commercials turn multiple people they awoke in multiple people both gay and straight yeah that's what i'm saying like like like my my my young self saw sydney crawford you know throwing her head back to drink the diepet she knows like women are awesome and like the right has been trying to like claim her they did this with taylor swift way back in the day but kind of gave up hope because she obviously came out as like a liberal when she does speak politically.
	Yeah, funny how they keep trying to get the blonde hair, blue eyed, you know, all American girl.
	Yeah, it's definitely a move.
	It's like, we want to have, like, the white it girl kind of be the face of MAGA or the far right or whoever.
	Yeah, they're not going for ambiguously brown Zendaya or anything.
	No, no, actually, there's a lot of really, really racist memes about Zendaya.
	Oh, God.
	They turn her into a monkey.
	And if you live in right-wing world enough, you see, like, who they're also horny for at the moment, unfortunately.
	It seems to be AOC a lot.
	They're horny for AOC, but like there is a lot of like, they really really don't like the current Snow White that just came out.
	They pretend she's ugly for which is hilarious because she's very much not.
	But the Sydney Sweeney thing, it is definitely like she's white she's blonde she's beautiful she got big knockers big naddies um so like they want to claim her as kind of like theirs uh it is very weird um and then the commercial came out where like she's doing the jean ad and there is this like double entendre kind of like of jeans jeans um And I did see this one guy who was kind of doing like in their defense thing,
	he was saying, because, you know, obviously people are saying like she's talking about how she has good jeans and she's, you know, she looks like the Aryan ideal of a woman.
	So people are making, so people are claiming that the left are making these comparisons i haven't actually seen it happen but either way i saw somebody say that he thought it was supposed to be like an homage to uh these ads that brooke shields did back in the 80s where she did a similar good jeans comment yeah which is super weird because those commercials i saw those and she's like 14 in them and they're very clearly supposed to be that was the guy did point that out too that she was uncomfortably young but this was the 80s when it was uh when it was what it was uh what they called old school pay-to-ing
	before it got a bad name No, there was like there's the era of Brooke Shields is also weird if you want to talk about like celebrity Hollywood cultures.
	Oh, she was yeah.
	She was so exploited when she was a teenager.
	Yeah, there is a lot of weird elements to Hollywood.
	I think she posed nude when she was 17 or something like that.
	I'm pretty sure that that Blue Lagoon movie, she's underage in that movie, yes.
	Like, she is very nude in that movie.
	Very weird, incredibly weird career as far as that.
	Cindy Sweeney is an adult.
	She's like 28, so it's okay to talk about her big bazongas.
	Yeah.
	But I do see, like, a...
	don't know.
	I lost my train of thought.
	I see like a kind of like right wingers pulling like, like a Libs of TikTok thing where they're like pulling like one random person that's like, this is a Nazi ad.
	And I do think like the jeans thing is a little weird.
	And Duncan also similarly put out a donut or a donut, an ad of like talking about genetics and like, so did Arby's and it's just like, okay, what's, what's with all the genetics talking?
	Their food is GMO.
	I mean, I don't get it.
	What is he saying?
	it is, it like the, the, the, the, the, the Dunkin' ones kind of feels like it's leaning into like white boy summer ass, like meme culture a little bit um i don't know i mean is do you guys have any like thoughts about anything besides the big fat boobs part well the thing is is that no i'm totally distracted by boobs yeah no i get it oh and and who wouldn't be but what i would say is that i feel like this ad was
	very much designed that it was gonna be about Sydney Sweeney and her big nadties and how that was how the vast majority of people were going to take it.
	But they knew that there would be this like small backlash of like hypersensitive online leftists.
	and that they could then use that to project all this shit onto the mainstream left and the Democrat left.
	And that's what's so fucking ridiculous about all of this is that I've seen a bunch of people make this point where it's like, if Democrats are going to be universally blamed for every bad thing that happens in this world,
	then we're so fucked politically that it's insane because No one running for office or holding elective office gives a flying fuck about this stupid American Eagle commercial in Sydney Sweeney's boobs.
	But these people are going to make that a thing.
	Whereas we have Marjorie Taylor Greene and Lauren Bobert.
	We have the president of the United States who are all huge fans of QAnon, which is an absolute nut-obsessed conspiracy theory.
	These are the people egging people on every time a movie with Tom Hanks has any social media on it.
	All the replies to that movie's debut are, Tom Hanks is a murderer, pedophile, who needs to be executed and get over his crimes.
	And no one ever brings this up.
	No one ever says, Republicans call Tom Hanks a murderer.derous pedophile.
	Like there's this really awesome thing that we have in our media where the Republican nuts are not Republicans, but nuts who are not Democrats are Democrats.
	It's just really great.
	that we've created this heads we win, tails you lose thing, where every annoying thing that happens from the left is literally the fault of Chuck Schumer and whoever the Democratic front runner for president might be in your head at this moment.
	And shit that is literally the stuff Donald Trump is fucking propping up.
	up and like making a thing.
	This whole RussiaGate bullshit is literally just catnip for QAnon.
	It's just literally Trump throwing red meat to his nut base.
	And no one's talking about it from that perspective.
	No one's saying, wow, our White House has been hijacked by crazy people.
	They're just like, oh, that goofy Trump says he's going to arrest Obama again.
	Ain't that wacky?
	The official White House account is posting Q ⁇ Anon memes.
	Yes.
	Anyone else posted about Sydney's movie, which is hilarious.
	Uh, Stephen Chung, actually like the white house, uh, one of the white house guys, uh, one of the communications people, uh, Stephen Chung, 47, uh, said control, They're tired of this bullshit.
	And it's like rabid.
	Every time I see something from him, it's the most aggressive shit I've ever seen in my life.
	It's actually hilarious because there are these multiple actually people tied with the Trump administration.
	who have commented on the Sydney Sweeney thing and actual multiple Republicans.
	And I've yet, I've yet to see an actual sitting Democrat talk about this.
	Right.
	I mentioned this earlier, the Joe Walsh post, where he said, this is what he posted.
	A message I just got from a buddy of mine who's a longtime Democratic Party campaign consultant.
	Quote, this Sydney Sweeney thing is the kind of thing that turns men away from our party.
	It's why men think our party is weak and insane.
	My response to him, fuck yeah, it is.
	You are exactly right.
	And it's like nobody's talking about this, man.
	Joe Walsh is a fucking never Trump Republican.
	so he doesn't know.
	Joe Walsh and his fictional Democratic buddy who Yeah, literally.
	It's like those Republican influencers who can't stand in a line at the store Right, right, exactly.
	It's Selena Vito at the gas station listening to people talk about how they can't stand DEI anymore.
	Yeah.
	It's all that fucking horse shit.
	But...
	I do want to say one positive thing.
	that Cindy Sweeney is donating her portion of the money from these jeans that she's selling American Eagle to the crisis text line, which is like a suicide prevention hotline, which is very important.
	The jeans technically are like their domestic violence awareness brand, which is also like, yeah, this course is another layer of, yeah, they got like a butterfly on them, which I guess is supposed to be a symbol for domestic violence awareness.
	I haven't heard that before, but, but I'll keep an eye out, I guess.
	But we're talking about bro science.
	Yes.
	Boobin is part of bros.
	I just, I just wanted to end that on a positive note.
	Bros loves boobs.
	And this is the bro episode.
	We're broing down bros.
	The thing is, that got me into this, I texted the bros.
	I was like, bros, we have to do an episode on bro science because They were the laboo boos of like the 2006, 2007.
	I think you've brought these up before on the podcast.
	This sounds really familiar.
	I probably brought this up while being like, dude, we got to do this episode because I watched this mini YouTube, like, whatever you want to call it, documentary about the power balance and how like a bunch of celebrities were pushing it, a bunch of sports people were pushing it and basically claiming like it heals you, like it has like hologram energy that heals you and makes you good at sports.
	And there was like this weird era where everybody wore them.
	I remember like the jockey kids wearing these.
	Bill Clinton, you know, showed off that he talked about the benefits of power balance.
	It does jack shit.
	It's nothing.
	It's a fucking rubber bracelet with some fucking shiny shit on it.
	But it's just one of those things that like bro science, it's kind of bro sciencey.
	So I think it's just like when Walgreens was selling those magnetic bracelets that were supposed to like attune your chakra or something like that.
	Oh yeah, that was the thing.
	And like there was Also, I remember there was NFL teams talking about how they had these mouth guards that would like align your skull and actually like realign your neck and give you better balance.
	And it was all kinds of stuff that people were talking about.
	I think there's a lot of bracelets that are hawked by like woo, like grifters that are like, this will fix all your problems.
	I've gotten like kind of.
	It was like a Renaissance fair and a lady like was like, oh, this bracelet will help your migraines if you put oils on it.
	And it's like, leave me alone.
	You know, like the power balance is a hologram bracelet, which is a component of a bigger scam.
	So yeah.
	Mike, you probably know a lot of these.
	You're into sports.
	Oh, there's like, I think my favorite of all these like scams and like things that don't really matter is like cupping where you like put these like cups all over your back and like basically like draw blood to like those areas of your muscles.
	So you end up with all these circular bruises all over your back.
	and it's supposed to like speed blood to like all those areas of your body to like encourage healing and stuff like that is that like after soul healing or something uh no this but this actually generates a physical reaction because you can see all these.
	I think like Michael Phelps like did it in the Olympics one year and you can see all these circular bruises on his back from all the cupping that he did.
	And it was just like, yeah, of course.
	Like you guys think that this is a real thing.
	And I'm sure someone's going to come at me like, yeah, cupping actually works.
	And blah, blah, blah.
	like everything I've seen about it says it's quackery.
	I mean, literally that is in the first paragraph, it calls it quackery and you know, maybe it feels good.
	Cause I do like warm things essentially like they kind of like warm up a cup with a flame briefly and then immediately put it on your back.
	And it kind of, it's really quick heat.
	So it's not like burning hot, but it does like the suction that's created, like does kind of pull your skin a little bit and they put it all down your back.
	They'll put it.
	I, I'll see it in like a, like celebrity, like red carpet photos.
	Cause some of them do it and you'll see it on their back when they like turn around.
	Cause their dresses are usually celebrities are just, they'll jump onto any fad craze that's out there.
	Yeah, they really do.
	And a lot of them like promote it.
	I kind of realized that when watching some of the other woo stuff that we've covered, that there is always like a, some celebrities that'll promote it.
	And Madonna was in the Kabbalah.
	Suddenly all these other people were like, yeah, me too.
	Yeah.
	That's like a religion though.
	Isn't it?
	Yeah.
	It's yeah.
	It's kind of like, it's kind of like what Gnostic Christianity is to regular Christianity.
	Kabbalah is to Judaism.
	I do remember that phase though.
	There was that.
	I feel like that was also in this era of like what the power balance and a lot of this other, like, like energy.
	Yeah.
	There was a lot of spiritualism going on about like 10, 20 years ago.
	Yeah.
	And it's kind of morphed into something way different, which we'll get into.
	when we talked about this episode where like the Liver King and Rogan thing happened, and he's very like bro sciencey, both of them actually.
	Oh yeah.
	Oh yeah.
	I mean, that's like Rogan's, that's how beyond his, just his podcast, that's the other way he makes all his money is like his bro, his bro supplement on it.
	Like on it is his like big thing where he's like.
	All these guys, it is the most magical thing in the world listening to an episode of Knowledge Fight and you just have Alex Jones like screaming about how the world is going to end and how we're literally battling Satan.
	And then 20 seconds after he says that, he's like, look, you got to keep me in the game.
	You got to buy my dick pills.
	You got to buy all this shit, triple Patriot points.
	And it's just, everything is just a build to a plug.
	That's literally all it is.
	And you need to keep us in the game.
	Patreon.com slash poker politics.
	Totally.
	Just absolute soulless bullshit.
	It's like so funny where it's just the obvious result of everything this person says is buy my shit and help me out.
	And by the way, my shit is in the supplements industry, which is horribly unregulated.
	I can be giving you absolute crap in a bottle that is literally a placebo.
	It doesn't matter.
	This doesn't matter.
	Yeah, but they always dress it up by like making it sound science-y, by being like, you know, by saying like it's got probiotics and carbohydrates, you know.
	Yeah, it's got like chopped liver nutrients.
	It's got electrolytes, which plants crave.
	Yeah.
	But that's because that's okay.
	So Liver King is definitely big in the bro science like universe.
	And I have no clue who Liver King is.
	So if you could give me a little background, please.
	Liverking was basically like a social media guru guy who got big.
	Yeah.
	Got big by being like, like the way I do this is eating raw meat and just living the way our, like living the way caveman did, where you like killed an animal, then you just like gorged on its flesh for as long as you could.
	So like, like the extreme end of the paleo diet sounds like.
	Just like, yeah.
	Just insane paleo diet.
	And, and, and of course, because he's the liver king, he was all about eating liver.
	Like you just eat livers.
	And then people were like, by the way, like your body cannot be, the body you have cannot be achieved by the lifestyle you're talking about.
	You have to be on massive quantities of steroids.
	Yeah.
	Oh, you have roid gut.
	Oh yeah.
	It's like abs on top of the roid gut kind of.
	Yeah.
	And, and, and, and as Haley just said about Wikipedia, pages like his his opening is literally one paragraph and and at the end of that and the end of that paragraph is though he claimed not to rely on anabolic steroids or other supplements it was revealed in 2022 that Johnson had spent more than $11,000 a month on steroids a month a month just jamming over five figures worth of steroids I'm like, I don't make them.
	You know, it's like 11,000.
	I don't make 11,000 a month, let alone spend it on Royce to keep your horribly unnatural body in its horribly unnatural state.
	Yeah, like, okay, Liver King is one of those guys.
	Like, there's so many of these guys that they promote this incredibly viral, heavy lifestyle.
	these like i'm only eating raw meat and i'm eating animal meat and that's what's making me like this and then secretly like or like and then on the thing that's actually making him money is the supplements that he's also promoting is like if you just eat raw meat and take my supplements that i myself have essentially like not like created and it it this is the whole market is they pretend like they create these supplements when really they just kind of like pick the things that they want to
	go in the thing that they're going to be hawking.
	and like it is this just it's kind of the alex jones griff but with this like jordan peterson style like only eating meat at least jordan peterson cooks the meat uh but when liver king came back from the uh I think he accidentally exposed the steroid thing.
	I think he sent like an email to the wrong person and like that person that got the email exposed it.
	I'm pretty sure that's what happened, but he went dark for a while.
	And then when he came back, he brought back the Liverking personality online and like started to incorporate his kids way more into it and like have them eat the raw meat.
	So like truly a fucking freak.
	Yeah.
	And then with the exploitation.
	Yeah, literally.
	No, literally.
	And then with the Rogan thing, like, I don't know.
	I don't exactly know why he was like pissed at Rogan.
	Rogan has seemed to like not been a fan of Liver King.
	I think Rogan cooks his meat so there's one strike against him right there.
	Yeah.
	And he didn't have him on his show.
	Like Rogan didn't have him on his show when he wanted to be on it.
	I don't know.
	Because I know Rogan's big into all that stuff.
	He braks about how he hunts all his own meat and stuff.
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	Gratis on Tripletex.no music Oh yeah, like that's what I've seen a bunch of like UFC guys who live in the Midwest where it's just nothing but fucking like planes and there's like no civilization around you.
	And those guys always have just a giant fridge in their basement where they have all this venison and all this shit.
	And they're just like, yeah, this is all the like wild murdered meat I eat because it's like healthy and shit.
	And it's like.
	Can't you just, I mean, I get it.
	Like, whatever, you need to spend like $10,000 on your compound bow or whatever to be a real man.
	But if this is really.
	what you need to do to live your life, can't you just go somewhere where there's water and fish and just catch a bunch of fish and be like, yeah, here's my wild caught fish.
	I'm going to eat them.
	Fishing is not manly.
	Yeah, fishing isn't manly enough.
	I have to use my unbelievably complex weapon that I paid $11,000 for to kill an animal to prove that I'm a man.
	This thing has a 10,000 pound draw.
	Right, exactly.
	What was really funny, I remember, I saw this video a couple weeks ago.
	They went to one of those untouched by civilization tribes in Africa.
	Like the Sentinel Islands or whatever.
	Right.
	And they showed them a compound bow.
	And the tribes people didn't give a fuck about the bow.
	They cared about the arrows.
	Because they were just like, holy shit.
	Because for them, making a really straight, really sharp arrow is really hard.
	That won't share on impact.
	Right, right.
	They're like, anything can be a fucking bow.
	We don't give a shit about a bow.
	What we need is fucking high quality arrows.
	and one of the tribesmen like literally within a few minutes of getting the compound bow was already firing it properly so it wasn't like the compound bow was like really blowing their minds pull the string shoot the arrow not hard right yeah the technology on bows hasn't changed all that much as far as the actual action of it i mean right exactly Yeah, but yeah, but it's just, it's all this crap where it's like, I have to do all this crazy stuff to kill an animal.
	And then, well, that's the other thing is that like dressing a fish really isn't that manly, but like, I'm cutting up this deer.
	Look how big a man I am.
	It's like, yeah, great.
	Yeah, never really.
	This gag in Gravity Falls, it was like one of the really early episodes that shows this guy whose name, the guy's name is literally Manly dan and uh he's he's in a fishing boat with his son uh his sons and one of them is like dad am i doing this right he's holding a fishing rod and he goes no this is how a man fishes and he jumps into the lake and starts punching the hell out of a fish right of course yeah that's that's how it works that is it yeah yeah you know
	though with the the all thing you know they it's like Like Liverking clearly went mad.
	Oh, really?
	You didn't know.
	He got a mental evaluation.
	He got arrested for threatening Rogan.
	I'm guessing his botulism that kind of drives him mad he was making the video and like one of his eyes was like bigger than the other like his pupils i think he maybe was fucked up or something but uh uh and then jordan peterson similarly like went into a coma oh yeah i mean that was the thing is like Jordan Peterson was like in a medically induced coma somewhere in Russia for like months.
	And apparently his daughter like put him in that coma because he was on benzos.
	And he was like so fucked up on benzos.
	Like the only way they could think to cure him was to knock him out for months on end and then bring him back.
	Yeah, cold turkey.
	Yep, the ultimate cold turkey.
	Is it without cold turkey?
	Like these guys, like I remember I looked up a picture of Liver King and he reminded me of this other wellness guru freak that I saw.
	And I'm like, why do these guys always, they always have the same look like they've been living in the desert for 30 years.
	They're like, they have like no, you know, they don't seem to be retaining any water at all.
	Their skin looks like beef jerky.
	And it's like, what the hell are they doing with themselves?
	Yeah, it looks like a white person in Arizona.
	It just stays out too long.
	Another like bro science thing that I've, you've probably seen Mike because the guy that I follow here locally that.
	that promotes it is a QAnon person.
	He's that certified health nut, Troy Casey, like ripped at 50 guy who like slaps his balls and drinks his own piss.
	Yeah, I thought Liver King was that guy at first because when I saw the picture of him, I remember that video of him standing in front of a fire and smacking his balls around.
	Yeah, they kind of look similar.
	They got the scrubby beard and the skinny starved look about him.
	The piss drinking thing, though, is definitely something that I've been noticing a bit more often in these circles.
	oh yeah the certified health nut guy like ferments his uh and like drinks it over time from what i've seen there's a big there's a big uh schism about that some people say no you have to drink your piss immediately and others are like no it's best to age it some people give out their piss some people are like my piss is good piss drink my piss um i've seen some like truly horrific because i was following this account i told
	you about him he's on uh blue sky now uh think it's AVK I think it is something like that but he's always posting piss drinking stuff and it's the saddest like this person's like my son cries whenever I try to put eye drops of his own urine in.
	What can I do to make it more, to make it so he's not so upset by getting his own piss poured into his eyeballs?
	I'm not even making, I mean, I'm exaggerating what the person said, but they were literally asking for advice on how to put their son's piss into his own eyeballs.
	Yeah.
	And then you call fucking Comprehensive Services.
	Yeah.
	That's the thing is like with the same thing, like Liver King was like starting to put his kids into a lot of his content.
	Like this certified health nut guy also.
	also puts his kids in his concept.
	I've never seen them engage in piss stuff, but a lot of the other weird, like, bro, science shit that he promotes, like fake horse shit.
	And I just, I have to bring him up because one, the urine, they call it like urine therapy.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	He calls it Shivambu, which I think is like what, like, like, yoga people call it.
	But like people who do yoga or like kind of the more like that kind of, what do you call it?
	Like a new age woo.
	I don't really know where the term comes from, but that's what he refers it to.
	And when he says it, he means piss drinking.
	And recently there was an event here in Arizona that was like some Turning Point USA guys and Mike Tyson and Tito Ortiz and the piss drinker.
	And it was like they were doing a conference on holistic healthcare in education and which is wild it's like this guy drinks piss um but like local news covered it like as if it was a normal event And that made me just about lose my fucking mind because that guy is actually like a QAnon guy.
	QAnon Anonymous actually covered him on their Man Clan series, I think.
	But do you see that, Mike?
	Do you see QAnon people talking piss?
	No, not really.
	QAnon, the main thing I've seen from QAnon people is paleo and other woo bullshit.
	that would normally be, again, this is stuff that's like liberal hippie coded and is turned.
	right wing over the course of time.
	I remember the authority before he got kicked off Twitter and then just like quit being a part of this scene.
	He was talking about being hardcore into a carnivore diet.
	Brian Cates has this.
	He has this great post, which I immediately looked up before we started doing this episode because it is so, this is so crunchy hippie bullshit that if this was written 10 years ago, oh my God, would you have tore this guy a new asshole for aligning his chakras and being a goddamn New Age Obama lover?
	But here's his post.
	What happens when you are 370 pounds and you adopt a low carb real food high red meat high protein diet and do intermittent fasting for 20 hours a day and to this you add daily walking on grass barefoot in the sun every morning and get about an hour in the swimming pool a couple times a week.
	Well, if you're me, you lose 90 pounds in about six months and you make this kind of transformation.
	And then he has a, and then he has two photos of fat Brian Cates and then alarmingly tanned and skinnier Brian Cates.
	And just, just imagine, just imagine Donald trump going down that escalator in 2015 or 2016 whenever it was he declared his campaign and then you go on twitter and someone says i love donald trump and you know what else i love doing walking on grass barefoot in the sun every morning and you'd be like what happened how did you get there but now now the walking barefoot in the grass and the morning people are MAGA.
	I mean, this is their world now.
	This weird communing with nature form of exercise is, I think they call it grounding.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	The grounding sounds exactly right.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	The grounding people, though.
	So it's like, I mean, I think everybody should touch grass.
	Yeah.
	I mean, but these guys are claiming that there's like, that like you're drawing energy from the earth or some geomantic bullshit like that.
	Not only that.
	Oh, you're tapping leylines, motherfucker.
	Yeah.
	It leaks into the leyline stuff.
	Like when you get into the like more MAGA, conspiratorial MAHA, the Make America Healthy Again folks.
	But also the MAHA people with the grounding will do it even when they sleep in the sense that they get these plugs.
	That they put it, it only plugs into the part of your outlet that is the ground outlet.
	You know how like.
	Yeah.
	And they plug it into their bed so they are always grounding.
	And it is like you can get mats that like.
	like like help like adapt to the plug so that like they're grounding when they sleep and i'm like okay this is just yeah And that's not how grounding works in electronics.
	So unfortunately, they're very not doing anything else either.
	No, there's so many ways that like this can go wrong.
	Someone's had to have died trying to ground their bed.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, plugging into the wrong spot or something and electrocuting themselves.
	Yeah.
	Oh, this was the other thing.
	I saw, oh, this is also from the Flat Earth channel that was talking about fighting Nephilim in Afghanistan.
	I just, I truly love how all channels, all timelines on Twitter are all just one account.
	Like no one can ever stay in their own lane.
	Everyone has to become the omni cause.
	Whatever side you're on, you have to support all the bullshit of that side, no matter what.
	And this post from FlatOutTruth is...
	Ring it 12 times at noon daily.
	Its frequency will expose reptilians and demons and send waves of healing energy across America.
	And then they have this AI shit slop art of a golden bell hanging from a golden cue.
	And of course, this idiot watermarked his Twitter handle on it because you can't let other people take your AI slop without fucking compensating you for it.
	They better attribute AI slop to its rateful AI slop generator.
	But yeah, healing energy of bells radiating across the America while attacking the reptiloids.
	No!
	Why not at least put it like in the most central position in America?
	Like somewhere in the Great Plains or something.
	Yeah, that bell should be in Topeka, Kansas.
	Right.
	That's where the bill needs to be doing work where it can do work best.
	Where are all the, because I mean, these people think that California is red if we would but clean the voter rolls.
	Why are all the Patriots in Red California being denied the U.S. Games?
	I saw someone, because you know, they've had that whole thing with Texas wanting to redistrict.
	And so this one guy proposed his own map to redistrict California that would basically cut out every single red district in the state.
	And all these people, oh my God, they're like, they're like, that can never happen once you get rid of all the illegal voters.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Yep, of course.
	You know it.
	Eric, I would like you to talk about ball tanning.
	The floor is yours.
	Talk about some tan balls.
	Why do you tan your balls?
	Naturally, I take off all my clothes except for one sock so that I can be, because I only, I like to partial ground.
	I don't, you know, I don't want to, I don't want to be greedy and take too much energy from the air.
	That's good.
	You know, yeah.
	Yeah, you have the, do you have the ball tanning?
	You have the butthole tanners, the people who like get on their backs and like lift their.
	bums up to the sun and get their get their asshole a nice golden brown and if it's too brown then you bleach your asshole yes yes exactly there's a lot of asshole aesthetics going on in america right now it's very very disconcerting the bro was promoted on tucker carlson Remember?
	Yeah, yeah, yeah, Tucker.
	Yeah, he had that guy with the fucking UV stand radiating his balls.
	And I love how he was in the crucifixion position as he's doing that.
	Yeah, he's like, Jesus, tan my balls.
	Like on the edge of a cliff.
	Yeah.
	Yes.
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	Yeah, I was like,
	like it was i was like i'm sorry was this like you know is this a hollywood blockbuster movie what the am i looking at but yeah i actually found because i was uh i i on um on pubmed which you know uh oh i just turned off everybody who hates uh you know who hates science but um i found this thing they were saying that after that tucker carlson thing um the uh the amount of searches for ball tanning uh it went up by roughly 7,000%.
	Like men were just like, oh my God, my balls are pale.
	I need to do something about this.
	Yeah.
	I mean, I. I need my scrotum to have a nice leathery hue to it.
	That's what the ladies are looking for.
	Yeah.
	So, and it's all this thing.
	It's, I mean, basically it all comes down to just, you know, these manly men being obsessed with their penises.
	They think that that's like, it's, it's, it's like, you know, if your body's the ark of the covenant, then your penis is the mercy seat where God is, is sitting.
	Oh, dear God.
	It's dangerous, isn't it?
	It's like, it's, it's like dangerous to tan those.
	like yeah i found uh yeah i found an article um from a urologist who was talking about testicular tannin and uh she was saying because some people were saying like, you know, it gives you a lot of vitamin D directly into your scrotum, which increases your testosterone.
	And the woman was like, okay, you get enough, you get enough.
	she's like yes you can increase testosterone with vitamin d but you get enough just from walking around during the day with your clothes on you don't you don't have to be stripping down and uh and getting your balls all worked out and uh and some guys are like pointing red lights at themselves and stuff And so she goes, so bottom line, don't go to tanned beds to get your scrotums tanned and don't buy expensive red lights to help improve your testosterone, Malik.
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	Instead, get exercise, eat a healthy diet, go out in the sunlight for walks, get good sleep, and avoid BPA containing products.
	So basically anything you would normally do for a healthy lifestyle, that will also help your nuts.
	It's literally the most basic stuff to be healthy, but these people promote these super – I'm not going to lie.
	Everything that we're talking about right now has a like we're talking about bro science, but I also like do entertain myself with a lot of the like trad wives and maha women., there's a Turning Point USA content creator who like her whole thing is like all like the pseudoscience health bullshit.
	And like everything that the men are currently being like sold like this like this is how you're masculine.
	You have to eat meat, you know, eat raw meat.
	uh the female equivalent you know the people that are like preaching like maha mom stuff are talking about like you have to take these pills that are like uh you know like um like like like beef, you know, raw beef pills.
	And then they're really into beef tallow, like to cook everything in beef tallow.
	And also just like a lot of the, it's like, you don't need to do like skincare anymore.
	Just put beef tallow all over your face.
	Yeah.
	And I kind of get that in that because, you know, they hate seed oils.
	So they got to cook with something.
	Yeah, it is.
	It's anti-seed oil stuff, which is also in the mail.
	The men say it'll make you.
	you know if you avoid seed oils it'll make you more masculine the women say if you avoid the seed oils it'll make you more feminine it's literally the same slot being sold it's like the same pill like pills being sold it's like oh just do this thing, this weird fucking diet, and then also take these pills.
	And it's all the same companies generally making the pills.
	It's kind of just like, it's almost MLM.
	It's like we're dealing with like people kind of selling like this downline of these same products, these same scam products, these same scam bracelets and whatnot.
	Oh, yeah.
	but just like marketing it to their audience and like i'm doing rami i'm doing piss i'm doing just like the big corporations they hate do just retailing for the audience yeah it's literally yeah it's literally uh it's just like i love how these guys are all anti-science they think anything that comes out of like the CDC is bullshit, but they're convinced that this one hormone, testosterone, is the seat of masculinity.
	You know, you were, because we're talking about like the super buff, like hyper masculine kind of guys.
	But you mentioned the interview with Nick Fuentes.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, I was waiting to get into that.
	Because this is the, this is the, this is like the opposite end of masculinity that is currently being sold to young men is what we're about to talk about.
	It's not like the hyper buff, like liver king, like Joe Rogan, like the biggest fuck you can find.
	It's kind of twinky.
	It's a little bit like femboy.
	It's like Nick Fuentes openly tells his audience, like, not to be buff, to be like thin and like, because he's, you know, but explain the interview that you saw.
	Okay.
	So I can't remember the guy's name, but he's in, he's into this thing called.
	What?
	It's like, it's like Clav.
	Yeah, something like that.
	He's into this thing that they call looks maxing, which.
	which i from the little looking around i did looks maxing sounds like Basically a beauty regimen like a woman would have, you know, put your makeup on, you know, moisturize at night, that stuff.
	But are they mueling?
	Are they working their drawing line?
	Yeah, that's the core component.
	Yeah, but, you know, you do like the contouring and all that kind of stuff.
	But since beauty regimen sounds girly, they got to come up with a manly name for it.
	So they call it a Wooks Maxine.
	And then I have seen, like...
	that they can have uh from what you're saying it sounds like they're trying to go for like the swimmer's build more kind of look yeah like the sleek and sexy rather than uh rather than schwarzenegger and his prime deal mike just mentioned it explain mewing So basically the idea is that you want to improve your jawline.
	So you do these exercises with your tongue and your mouth.
	And you're also like pressing on your jaw with your finger and like tracing your jaw, your jawline with your finger.
	Oh, yeah.
	This guy did say he wanted to get double mandible surgery to give himself like like that Chad jawline.
	Yeah, that impossible jawline that chad guy has right yeah it's uh what's it's really funny these people are like obsessed with jawlines and people that they have like good looking facial structures um There's that clip from Fury where Brad Pitt points at the guy and says, yo, shoot that guy.
	And then they shoot the German who was killing the kids.
	And I saw like in one of the comments, someone was like, that German had a jaw you could cut glass with.
	And it's just like, yeah, he's a Hollywood guy who's literally on screen because he looks attractive for the five seconds he's gonna be there before he gets blown away and yeah yeah he's gonna have a good jawline yeah weird weird that but yeah oh man that impeccable form oh god no no he's all you all you i was gonna say that like you're totally right with it that like in the way that like joe rogue or not even joe it's like liver king and those like hyper ripped uh
	Like, guys, they're selling a type of eating disorder.
	This is the opposite end where a lot of these guys are kind of selling, like, eating disorder tips for men to achieve that, like, yeah, very chiseled job, kind of skinnier body but fit.
	And it is kind of disturbing.
	Like, I don't know.
	So, you know, it's a common thing you see you've always been like thrown at in women's spaces but like it is interesting to see how much like basically like eating disorder and like dangerous diet culture is being sold to young people.
	Yeah.
	That's the thing.
	I got nothing against a man trying to look as good as he can.
	Like I even, like, I mean, like if it was something that was done in the 80s i would probably you know put on some makeup to just to spruce up my face but uh but it's like yeah but these guys get into these really really unhealthy stuff to meet the but and like like women do like the whole anorexia thing you know they trying to meet this impossible ideal of attractiveness and it and they're ruining their their bodies and their lives to do it and but i looked it up yeah the guy's name is like i don't not sure if i'm pronouncing it right but it's like clavicular Yeah.
	Yeah.
	So I guess he's really proud of his collarbone or something.
	Well, yeah.
	So, okay.
	A reason too, this isn't just like in the sense that it's like they are obsessed with their like looks, which I also think is, I think it's fine to like be like, you know, like want to look pretty.
	These guys do take it too far though in the sense that they are promoting like eating disorder culture, which I do see in the mahasphere a lot.
	Like a lot of the tips that the women give are straight up just like, they are, they're pro-anorexia tips.
	But with the male stuff, though like this looks maxing stuff, it is.
	They're doing, you'll see these terms like gene cuck, which is basically what they say like to a, they're describing an ugly guy.
	And a lot of it is this like genetic predisposition kind of language the sort of eugenesis language yeah so like there is this sort of like you know obviously there's a racial component like the the clav guy got kind of canceled when he was doing his normal bro culture uh because he did say essentially like that a black guy couldn't outmog him,
	which means like outlook him, out like dominate him in this kind of like sphere.
	Because like.
	he was implying that like white people are the top as far as like looks right um so it really quickly like delves into that and a lot of it is like one doesn't Fuentes was talking about incel stuff in that interview, wasn't he?
	He got some backlash because his fan base are all these incels.
	And they're like, why are you trying to make yourself look more attractive?
	That's not incel culture.
	And he's like, look, I'm going to still try to be an incel.
	And I'm like, how do you try to be an incel?
	You're a cell then.
	Or you're a volcano.
	Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
	I'm like, if you're trying to be an incel, then that cuts out the whole involuntary part.
	But also, this is the dual kind of like kind of incel cultures is that there is the incels that kind of lean into like, I'm ugly and I'm never going to find a woman.
	I'm bald and all the things that they like complain about in the incel culture.
	And then there's the ones that are in this looks maxing kind of world.
	And so there is like some of the incel stuff is in this because it is like this like, oh, I'm gene cucked.
	I like, I'll never be beautiful.
	And a lot of these edits in this subculture that they call them BP edits.
	black pill edits and it's not like being black pilled about politics it's being black pilled about your looks um so like the edits a lot of them play to this ABBA song, Winner Takes All, because the lyrics go, the winner takes it all, the loser standing small.
	And in these edits, it'll play like kind of these like chads with the hard jaw lines.
	And then when it says the loser standing small will show like normal dudes.
	But in these edits, it's not.
	It's more these guys that have low self-esteem.
	And they are in this scenario kind of the ugly guy in the line where it says the loser standing small.
	So it's kind of like self-flagellation.
	Yeah.
	And it is also part of this incel culture where it's like, I can never look like these guys with the jaws than the abs who get the ladies because I'm genetically predispositioned to look ugly and never get girls, which is a key kind of thinking in incel culture.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	And it's, and it's, I just want to say because like I'm kind of glad incel culture didn't exist when I was young because I think I might have fallen into it because I did have kind of that mindset when I was younger that I'm never going to meet anybody.
	I'm going to be lonely my whole life, and I'm very upset about it.
	But it's like, okay, but now I'm married and I have a kid.
	And so, I mean, it's like I keep saying, it's this impossible standard that everybody feels they have to live up to all the time.
	And it creates these toxic environments, and then some people decide they're going to capitalize on it and make money from it by doing all this.
	you.
	You know, you just got to take anabolic steroids only eat one meal a week kind of stuff um yeah and it's interesting because it's like with the the videos this like incel content, this like kind of going on the like video format with TikTok, I do see like them kind of weaponizing that like videos of guys kind of being like,
	you know, just like normal looking guys being like, listen, guys, you can like anybody can find somebody like if you have a good personality and you kind of take care of yourself.
	And then the edit goes like, mogged.
	and it shows like all these guys and it's like you will never be anything and it is literally feeding into the insecurities that like young guys have yeah um and like kind of like telling them like you are correct about those horrible thoughts that you have about that you'll never find anybody and it is really honestly the most disturbing form of like yeah just hearing you describe it sounds really brutal yeah no it is it's like the things that like like young guys are kind of,
	it's like Joe Walsh is like, oh, this is what like Democrat Party losing, losing male because big boobies.
	And it's like, actually, I think that like men are currently dealing with a lot, especially online.
	Like young boys are getting fed.
	really horrible stuff.
	And like it is intentionally trying to pull them into like really horrible subcultures, like neo-Nazi shit, like neo-Nazis particularly go after kids.
	So yeah, I don't know.
	I don't know how I got to this dark point.
	I just, I think it was Matt Walsh said something to the effect of he's like, yeah, I got my, I got my wife and blah, blah, blah.
	And then Andrew Tate was like, yeah, you married your high school sweetheart.
	You don't know what a real man is.
	Like, I, I fuck all these women, even though half the time when I'm tweeting, I talk about how sex with women is gay.
	And it's just, Andrew, Andrew Tate's masculinity is so bizarre and to and toxic and also incredibly temporary because it's just this thing where today's ultra masculine thing is tomorrow you're a fucking cuck for doing it.
	Yeah.
	It's so bizarre.
	It's like, get the girl you're looking for.
	Use my proven tactics.
	And then smash cut to a week later.
	Oh, you're obsessed over getting one girl.
	What a fucking loser you are.
	It's just like, oh my God.
	Because he's got to keep producing new content, which means he's got to contradict himself eventually.
	Pretty much.
	You can only go down the...
	You can only go down hookup culture so many times.
	You got to come up something fresh.
	I don't know how the, like, I don't know.
	You have a little kid.
	You have a boy.
	Like, I feel like I'd be nervous raising a young kid like on the internet today, just like the shit that they get fed.
	It's like, there's beauty standards on like a level of steroids I couldn't have even imagined.
	Yeah.
	I mean, yeah.
	And it's, yeah, it's a lot of, it's a lot of monitoring.
	I mean, not like I sit over his shoulder and look and keep an eye on everything he does, but I do like, I watch out like a lot of times when he's watching stuff, I'll be in the room with him and I'll keep an ear out if I hear a bad word or something like that.
	I mean, he's not, he, he's not an age yet where I really got to worry about that kind of masculinity stuff because he's too young to give a shit about being manly.
	But, uh, but there, there, there is still a lot of stuff out there, especially because like I always point out to people.
	YouTube, YouTube basically expects people to self-enforce their videos.
	So if somebody like has a video that has the N word in it and they don't bother marketing it as not safe for kids, then my son will see it.
	So there is a lot of monitoring that has to be done.
	And I even ended up, I set up my own Roblox account when he set up a Roblox account because that's how Roblox made it.
	If you want to monitor their Roblox activity, you've got to have your own account to monitor it from.
	So I have my own account and every now and then he'll invite me to play a game with him.
	And I keep an eye out to make sure he's not going into anything that everything goes into is safe.
	There's no, you know, that because they are a bit better about policing.
	They will.
	will you know they will block out certain words from being from being used and stuff i remember this uh this um this daughter of a friend of mine she was uh i was watching her one time and she was and she was playing uh this uh brookhaven which is a real popular robox uh experience and she was telling me yeah i tried to put a sign that says all lives matter and the game wouldn't let me and then i had to have it sit down talk with her and explain to her what the problem is with the phrase all lives matter because she's young enough that she took it at face value.
	And she's like, yes, everybody is important.
	And that's a, and that's a good message.
	So I had to be like, no, it's been appropriated by some people to use it as a racist message.
	So yeah, so I do feel a little safer about him being on Roblox for stuff like that but i'm sorry i went off on a screen like that but it is something i think about a lot as a parent no you're the parent here and like you know uh i honestly love that your nails are painted for this episode so they're talking about masculinity and you're a dad and you're married and you're the thing that like uh you know they're always saying like i don't know it's just like the nail thing it's like they'd be like oh you never would be
	considered masculine in these spaces but it's like you fit into the stereotype of also what they view as masculine with yeah having a wife kid i know i laugh about that i'm like i'm sure that most people on the street when they see me assume I'm a Maga because I'm a white male.
	I'm in my 40s.
	I have a large body type.
	I'm kind of intimidating actually.
	I think it's funny.
	I will see people cross the street when they see me.
	I'm just walking down the street just because I have a resting bitch face too.
	That doesn't help at all.
	So like, because like literally, like I tend to walk faster than normal and I'm large and I, and so like, like I remember I was at this job and this guy, this guy comes walking up to me, goes, goes, I. seriously thought you were on your way to kick somebody's ass when I saw you.
	I'm like, yeah, I just have that air about me, unfortunately.
	That sounds magical.
	My problem is that I would die in the Terminator world because every dog just barks at me.
	Whenever I'm walking around my neighborhood.
	If anyone's going to talk, that dog is just like, oh, I just, they're like, no, no, calm down.
	and I'm just like, Jesus Christ.
	Like every dog just sees me and immediately they're just all over me.
	They're just absolutely out of their fucking minds.
	If I had like a montage of that shit and somehow went online, Alex Jones would be like 100% demon possessed.
	Dogs can tell.
	This man is 100% enthralled to Satan.
	Doesn't know it.
	He needs Jesus.
	Yeah, but it's wild.
	It's just wild how I earn theire of any dog that I'm within 50 feet of.
	That's actually got me wondering.
	So is Alex Jones like straight out Nazi or is he kind of closet?
	So he did kind of have a Nazi episode where he,
	It was just this big sort of wink and a nod to Nick that he's like, yeah, I might just become an open Nazi like you too, Nick.
	was really strange it was it was really interesting that like that was the path he was going down and i mean hey uh whatever whatever you're gonna do buddy uh because i mean it it seems really weird that just like the the legal limbo he's in and like he did have like one like 15 minute like nervous breakdown on air because he the funniest
	thing about all the shit he's doing to try to avoid his bang bankruptcy is that he talks about it in detail on air.
	So he's just admitting to like attempting crimes constantly.
	And so he had like this one like 15 minute diatribe about how they're suing his dad because like he gave his dad so much shit illegally in the efforts of keeping it away from the creditors that were coming to take all this shit from him from his bankruptcy.
	And he was, and he was just like, my dad's got a bad heart.
	They're trying to kill my dad.
	And.
	He basically declared that if they do kill his dad, he would summon the angel of death to kill them.
	That he would, he's like, look, if you kill my dad with this lawsuit, that's fine.
	I'm going to talk to God and God's going to sendend the angel of death to kill that.
	That's my bro.
	Me and God are very tight.
	And when I need God to send his supernatural hitman to kill people, God will do that for me because me and God are super bros that way.
	So if I tell you guys to paint an X and Lance blood on your door, you know what's happening.
	Right.
	Exactly.
	Yeah.
	Exactly.
	This is all fucking happening.
	Yeah.
	So yeah.
	but just trying to kind of putting a bow on this whole episode.
	It's really, Like none of this shit should have a political base.
	Like aligning your chakras and drinking miracle mineral solution and med beds and all of this stuff and all the bro science and all the nonsense about that.
	None of this stuff should actually be on the left-right spectrum.
	But we've done it.
	We've moved all this shit to the right.
	And now we've made all these crazy people right-wingers.
	I mean, RFK Jr. being a big voice in our government is a terrible fucking idea.
	And now.
	we got like Shake Shack and all these companies being like more beef tallow it's like why and I love it's good genetics I said how about this disconnect because you mentioned RFK this disconnect that these guys have between what they say publicly and what they say when they're under oath like when RFK Jr. was testifying before the sentence said nobody should be taking medical advice from me right and now I run America's fucking health health fucking networks so it's so
	strange yeah it's the whole thing like you know whenever fox gets sued and like hey no you know nobody's dumb enough to actually believe what we say on our channel so you can't sue us right i do actually think though that um you know it is important for like
	liberals leftist people who care about science even if you don't care about any of the other political stuff um to not let the riot come of hijack the healthcare conversation because they are just promoting pseudoscience like that's the I hear a lot of people get kind of like entried in with the mass stuff.
	Like I or like, or they kind of.
	gateway drug or they kind of even just give it the benefit of the doubt even if they like hate MAGA they're like well some of the stuff that RFK says is like I agree with like the I don't agree with the red dye 40 and it's like okay but he thinks red dye 40 is giving you autism you don't agree with him yeah you don't agree with him you don't you don't like red dye 40 for legitimate reasons he doesn't like red dye 40 for completely pseudoscientific reasons and it's fine if you like the red dye 40 ban but
	the thing is you can't let these people hijack the conversation because then they win then they win and they they they backdoor these what they're actually talking about is like eugenesis shit a lot of the autism stuff that RFK talks about is horrific and the anti-vax stuff is also a topic that they are pretty like hard normalizing with this pseudoscientific rhetoric um anti-lgbtq stuff and
	anti-algae and anti-algae and anti-algae anti-abortion i see that a lot in the mahas stuff is like they say like abortions will give you breast cancer and all this kind of stuff like very uh pseudoscientific shit to just promote their own ideas that they already had and it's not actually healthcare.
	And yeah, a lot of stuff they're promoting is dangerous.
	So that's why I think it is important to kind of just like not let that get hijacked and kind of.
	Yeah, yeah.
	And a lot of the stuff that they do sounds reasonable on the face of it.
	Like, oh, God, I lost what I was going to say.
	I lost my train of thought.
	Sorry.
	They're like anti-IVF.
	like mahat people, they'll preach like anti-IVF stuff.
	Which is just an extension of the abortion thing because when you do IVF, some of those fertilized eggs are not going to be put into the womb and that's their problem with it that's one of their problems with it and then then you get into some of the more pseudoscientific stuff and it's like they're just talking they're just saying absolute um okay i remember i was going now so like they they try to make it sound reasonable like they're like like they're talking about deregulating food and everything and they're like hey we're just trying to keep the government out of your lives so that you can make the best decision for your family and
	then you get like i saw yesterday this company had to recall their bottled water because they accidentally bottled their vodka product in it instead Yeah, they bottled vodka in Celsius cans.
	Yeah, that was it.
	I couldn't think of the brand name, but yeah, I remember Amanda Moore talking about it.
	So I figured you guys would have seen that.
	know like um the raw milk thing is very popular yeah and it's like um i don't know my mom heard about the raw milk thing and she's like what's wrong with these people it's like i I told my mom about the raw milk thing because I knew that she would find it disturbing because she grew up on a farm, a Mexican farm.
	And that was like...
	I don't want to get sick for three months.
	And they're talking about how, because they're talking about how there's some chemical, some lactose derivative in milk that gets destroyed during the, during the, during the pasteurization process.
	Yeah, thank you.
	My word's bad now.
	Yeah, during the pasteurization process.
	And I guess there are health benefits to that, but.
	But it's like, okay, but it's also killing disease in that milk.
	You got to take the bad with the good, you know.
	The one that would drive me mad is you see him, like, just squirt the shitty butter milk right in the cup and drink it.
	And it's like, ugh, you're going to kill your kid.
	I'm sure I brought it up before, but my favorite is this one guy who said, you know, raw milk is perfectly safe if you boil it first.
	And I'm like, yeah, yeah.
	As long as you pasteurize it, raw milk is great.
	Yeah, you know, again, I watched some of the Maha stuff because of the Turning Point lady.
	And, like, she is pretty adamant about, like, even putting it in warm coffee is too...
	too much of pasteurizing so you drink your coffee on the side you drink your raw milk on the side so you don't warm it up Yeah, it's lactoferrin is the protein in question.
	And basically, they've created this whole mythology around lactoferrin as being this super protein that if you ingest it, it's going to basically make you a god.
	And I've read there are health benefits to lactoferrin, but it's not this holy grail of medical science that these people are saying it is.
	Yeah, and also when they get into lactoferrin, they also get into the fact of the Rothschild's push for pasteurization.
	Because the evil.
	jews wanted to keep you weak with the goy slop and all that stuff more like lurry pasteur steen yeah exactly all of that yeah uh yeah there's a oh there's a thread from a guy called fractured light which i'm sure that's going to be totally fucking not antisemitic But yeah, another guy is like IGF1, lactoferrin, B vitamins, bacteria, enzymes, immunoglobins.
	And it's like, if you want that shit, you can just fucking get it.
	You can go to CVS and fucking get those supplements.
	Yeah.
	You can Google lactoferrin and you'll you'll be able to buy the supplement off amazon yeah and you guys love supplements right exactly yeah go get your lactoferrin i mean it's not uh it's not hard this isn't hard i mean so Lacto, yeah, there we go.
	Lactoferrin supplement.
	Come on.
	Lactoferrin supplement at Arizona.
	Boom.
	uh yep 23 23.64 and i can get my uh lymphosol bovine lactoferrin 1000 high absorption and then uh there's another one for 29 it's human x lactoferrin yes yeah if you want if you want your lactoferrin you can get it buddy yeah that's what i love about this is like they're hiding the cures from you it's like no they're not you can just buy it online it's really not that hard yeah and and on the opposite end of that spectrum you can buy adrenochrome
	for like 30 bucks a milliliter online too oh yeah you don't you don't have to harvest it from the soul of a crying child yeah it's yeah it's so silly there's a raw milk truck uh here that is in like the Scottsdale area, which is the fancy area here.
	And it's run by the sister-in-law of Trump's pick for the surgeon job General, I think it is, which is fucking hilarious to me.
	Wow.
	We love science.
	We love people promoting health.
	Yes.
	This probably won't be our last health pseudoscience episode.
	no it's endless yeah because this is where so much disinformation comes from because people will attacking the medical industry is the easiest thing in the world to do in america because our insurance system is so fucked up and you have all these you have all these problems you have all these hoops to jump through i'm always saying health care in this country is yeah right and and
	that frustration leads people down dark roads i mean this is uh me getting ready to be destroyed when the um when november rolls around and i can get on the my uh massachusetts public health connector and then pay the egregious premiums that are going to be like skyrocketed uh through that but i'm gonna have to do that because my current uh
	You're sick and you can't get healthy.
	So then you go down these roads and the next thing you know, you're eating raw meat and you're drinking raw milk and you're doing all this silly shit.
	Miracle mineral solution.
	Yeah, you're choking down your, you're, you're washing down your raw milk with some miracle mineral solution.
	You're doing all that stuff and you're, you're talking about how none of this matters because you're gonna, we're gonna have med beds in a few years and they're gonna cure all our, all that ails us and all that stuff.
	I mean, it's just, it's just endless.
	And everyone, everyone has some sort of health concern.
	And even if you don't have a health concern, you want to be healthier.
	You want to feel better.
	And that's the nature of just being a person.
	So it leads to all that kind of stuff.
	So yeah.
	this kind of stuff will continue apace i'm sure and uh so uh that'll wrap it up for this week uh tune in next week when the latest epstein allegation will happen i'm sure and devastate everybody.
	Right now, Trump is holding a press conference and like babbling and incoherently going through all of it.
	It's great.
	We were going to continue maybe Epstein this week, but like I feel like if we wait one more week, there'll probably be enough for a full episode.
	Plus, I, listeners, I have had a long week and I didn't want to have to catch up on.
	I know that there's more news on the Epstein stuff and it's like.
	put a bullet in my head.
	I need a break, but I also know that we're going to have to come.
	Yeah, Hayley vetoed Epstein this week.
	week if you were looking for more epstein i was just like i'm so tired and i know i have stuff that i'll have to read for this episode and i just can't do it right now so so anyhow thank you for listening thanks to you for all doing that good stuff where you put us into your ear holes you crazy people i don't know why you do that to yourself um give us a five-star review word of mouth be our street team spread the gospel because i've been just straight crushing on
	twitter recently uh not not even humble bragging just totally bragging i had like a i had i've never gotten more than like a few hundred likes on something or maybe a thousand here and there.
	I got that 15,000 like post on the Oswald thing and then I got 40,000 likes when I posted that thing of Ezekiel Banks.
	Have you ever seen her name azalea banks yeah saying that like hey if trump was banging 13 year olds no big deal and most of the that whole thing when we covered up steely and the and the best part about that was most of the replies to me were she's not mega and it's like um hey What did we say at the start of this whole pod where it's like literally one random leftist online?
	line whines about Sidney Sweeney's jeans commercial maybe being a little Nazi-coded.
	then guess what that means that Kamala Harris thinks that so it's a democratic party platform right the democratic party platform is that american american eagle jeans are literally fascists yeah all of that so uh yeah you anyhow thanks everyone for listening thanks to frosty and dj minimal effort for the bumps and the music and all that good stuff uh support the show by going to patreon.com slash politics throw money into the well and

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