Mike's here to go over the whole ordeal with Epstein and to talk about how Liz Crokin's take on the "Pizza for an hour" E-mail makes no sense. Well you already knew that but Mike wanted to talk about it. Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/hellwqrld. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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| Hello, everybody. | |
| Mike Greens here. | |
| El Lobo Solo. | |
| Here to talk about Jeffrey Epstein and how he totally killed himself, but then the list he created did not kill itself. | |
| So let's do a breakdown of kind of how this all started in the sense that what happened with Epstein from the beginning. | |
| So Epstein was doing some sketchy pedophile shit. | |
| And in 2009, he got indicted for the pedophile shit. | |
| And this led to him getting a sweetheart deal from Florida prosecutors who Alex Podesta, I do believe is the name of the guy who ended up in Trump's first cabinet. | |
| That was the guy who gave him the sweetheart deal. | |
| And on June 30th, 2008, Epstein pleaded guilty to a state charge of procuring prostitution, a girl below the age of 18. | |
| Basically, at this point, Epstein was given a super easy sentence and no one really cared. | |
| And also it was stated, Alex Acosta, that was the name of the guy. | |
| So Alex Acosta was the scumbag who did this. | |
| And from here, Epstein is known publicly as a pederist who is a registered sex offender and all that good stuff. | |
| And he's a creep. | |
| He's a creepy dude. | |
| And at this point, you'll often hear Alex Jones talk about how he was on the Epstein beat before anybody else was. | |
| And QAnon will love talking about how Q brought up Epstein before anyone else paid attention to him. | |
| And this is all lies because Epstein was known from the 2008 incident as being a pederist. | |
| And when Q was talking about Epstein pre-his arrest in 2019, Q was doing it in the sense that he was saying, look, the rich and powerful, they abuse children. | |
| They're untouchable. | |
| They have power. | |
| This is what the global elites. | |
| This is what the Illuminati do. | |
| This is how they are bad. | |
| Now, what happened was Julie K. Brown was a reporter for a Miami newspaper, and she basically did the legwork to find out about this ridiculously bullshit deal that Epstein got. | |
| And she also started talking to Epstein's victims. | |
| And all of her legwork and all the work that she did led to people looking into his case and digging into this stuff. | |
| And then Epstein was indicted again. | |
| And this time it was for bigger, better, bolder charges. | |
| And it was very obvious that he was not going to get a slap on the wrist the way he did the previous time. | |
| And it was at this point that Epstein killed himself in prison. | |
| And then the world went insane. | |
| And hashtag Epstein didn't kill himself. | |
| And all that good stuff happened. | |
| So that's the kind of nuts and bolts of the story. | |
| The problem here is that QAnon has spent their entire existence post-Epstein death talking about how there was, quote, the Epstein client list, that there was this idea that Epstein had kept a log of all the bad people that he had trafficked children to. | |
| And the powers that be had this list, they knew the people on this list. | |
| They knew who the big, powerful pederists were. | |
| And this became a right-wing MacGuffin that When it was revealed, it would bring the whole rotten house of cards down and all the corrupt global elites would pay for their crimes because now justice had come for them. | |
| The Epcet list was going to be exposed. | |
| And boy, howdy, were you going to get it? | |
| Because you touched kids and now you're going to go to jail for forever. | |
| And if you go to Gen Pop, they're going to shive you because prison justice. | |
| They don't care. | |
| They don't cotton to pederists in the prisons, as the kids would tell you. | |
| So this list, this hypothetical list, has been a bugaboo for conspiracy theorists for a long time. | |
| And while Trump was out of power, this was useful because you could claim that Biden was hiding it from us, that he was protecting Bill Clinton and all the other rich and powerful Democrat elites who obviously were part of Epstein's child trafficking network. | |
| And then Trump won election. | |
| And Pam Bondi, his attorney general, told us that Epstein's list was on her desk and she was going to release it any day now. | |
| And then DC Draino, Libs of TikTok, and all kinds of other clowns like Jack Pasebiak and all the rest of them waved around binders of Epstein stuff at a press conference, or basically a photo shoot is what I should have called it. | |
| And turned out they really got nothing. | |
| And then this ridiculous story came out about how the Southern District of New York was hiding the good stuff from our government and that Cash Patel and Pam Bondi were going to have to crush the Southern District of New York to find the real Epstein information that had been withheld from them. | |
| And then today, the government, the Trump administration, which is our government, declared that Epstein killed himself. | |
| There is no Epstein list. | |
| That is it. | |
| That is all. | |
| The case is closed. | |
| And people are not taking this very well because the Epstein list was a win condition. | |
| It was a way that the good guys were going to defeat the bad guys and throw them all in jail for eternity. | |
| And now the Trump administration has declared, no, that win condition we've been promising you for all these years, it's not real. | |
| It's not something that actually exists. | |
| We were lying to you this whole time. | |
| When Penn Bondi said she had it on her desk, that was a lie. | |
| And right now you're seeing QAnon promoters freaking out, trying to figure out the 9D chess, trying to figure out how this all makes sense when it doesn't make sense. | |
| And of course, a lot of people who are not big fans of QAnon are saying, hey, guess why the Epstein files aren't being released? | |
| Because they're protecting Trump, because he's in them. | |
| Because that's what Elon said a couple weeks ago, was that the reason why the Epstein files haven't been released is because Trump's in them. | |
| And Elon's even thrown some punches about this now. | |
| So, I mean, it's, this is obviously a massive sore spot for these people because this was supposed to be it. | |
| And it's really obvious now that these people knew what they were doing in the sense that they were pandering to conspiracy theorists and these kinds of grifters. | |
| And now having responded to that kind of having having done all this, having done everything they can to encourage and egg these people on, now they got nothing. | |
| They got nothing to offer them. | |
| The actual payoff isn't coming. | |
| And that is enraging. | |
| And people are getting upset. | |
| And Elon had one tweet, the official Jeffrey Epstein pedophile arrest counter posted. | |
| And then he posted another one with a angry face that's swearing emoji. | |
| And it's the guy getting dressed up as a clown saying, we will release the Epstein list. | |
| We just need more time. | |
| The Epstein list is on my desk. | |
| There is no Epstein list. | |
| So this is it. | |
| I mean, this is something that is very easy to hit these people with. | |
| And it's very easy to hit Trump with. | |
| And QAnon promoters are trying to explain it. | |
| They're trying to rationalize it. | |
| They're trying to justify it. | |
| And the main argument for most of them is, shut up. | |
| Trump's the man. | |
| Trump's going to figure it out. | |
| You need to just figure out that this is all going to work out. | |
| I'm actually reading now a Awakened Outlaw has a tweet with the Axios report about Epstein being a host. | |
| A hoax. | |
| I trust everyone can see the folly in overreacting to knee-jerk management news of this nature. | |
| It all turns out we had to wait and see what transpired as opposed to flipping out and playing the part of Chicken Little. | |
| And this is not, this didn't go over well because people are now saying like, no, it is true. | |
| And yeah. | |
| And everyone in his replies are saying 72 hour 72 hour rule, which is kind of the defense mechanism these people always go to when something they don't like happens is wait for the truth to come out in 72 hours, which means try to spin it, try to bury it, try to get more different news in the way to make sure that the old bad news is kept away from it. | |
| And this is the nature of the movement because they're tied to Trump. | |
| They can't escape him. | |
| He is the movement. | |
| And no matter how bad he is, their loyalty is to him. | |
| And it's loyalty that is illogical. | |
| It's impossible. | |
| You can't justify it or defend it because these are the same people who are like, the COVID death jab, it'll kill you if you take it. | |
| And then they turn around and say that Trump was okay for promoting Operation Warp Speed. | |
| And they're not mad at him for Operation Warp Speed when they should be furious at him for Operation Warp Speed. | |
| Operation Warp Speed was obviously something that will murder you because that's what the COVID death jab was supposed to do. | |
| And these people just, they find ways. | |
| They find ways to spin and justify and rationalize anything because that's their movement. | |
| their movement is predicated upon doing these things. | |
| It's predicated upon finding excuses for why Trump is not a bad guy. | |
| How he is playing 10-D chess. | |
| How this is all going to make sense. | |
| You just have to wait a little longer and trust the plan and all that good stuff. | |
| And the last few posts I've seen now are getting to the point where they're like, look, shut up about the Epstein list. | |
| The Epstein list doesn't matter. | |
| We've got to get peace with Iran. | |
| We've got to bring Israel to heel. | |
| We've got to do all this work. | |
| We can't worry about the Epstein files now. | |
| And it's just desperate. | |
| Just desperate, flailing, thrashing. | |
| Anything they can do to try to rationalize the unrationalizable because they know. | |
| They know what they're saying is bullshit. | |
| They know they've been dealt a bad hand and they've got to play it because they have no other choice. | |
| They have to defend this guy. | |
| They have to defend their moron president because to go against him is to be cast out of the community. | |
| They are audience captured. | |
| They have to perform for their audience. | |
| They got to play the hits. | |
| They can't change. | |
| They can't deviate. | |
| And it's a fool's errand because this Trump administration is only going to get worse. | |
| There is no... | |
| Replacing Scalia and Thomas is about the last two wins they're going to get. | |
| Whenever that happens, whatever knuckle-dragging scum SCOTUS judges, 40-something SCOTUS judges they appoint to destroy America for the next 50 years, all these troglades will pump their fists and cheer about it until those guys make a couple rulings they don't like and then they'll be deep state. | |
| But that's all you got to look forward to if you're a Trump fan. | |
| Because the economic policy ain't going to be great. | |
| Foreign policy, disastrous. | |
| Everything's going to suck. | |
| So, yeah. | |
| Congrats. | |
| Enjoy. | |
| Bask in it. | |
| You giant buffoons. | |
| Hey, Thea. | |
| Hey. | |
| Have a great summer. | |
| Yeah, yeah. | |
| It's fantastic. | |
| We were in the sydney. | |
| And on the hytta. | |
| And on the festival, actually. | |
| Oh, so deilig. | |
| Yeah. | |
| What about you? | |
| What have you done? | |
| Oh, I have been to go. | |
| I have been to go. | |
| Yeah. | |
| I have been to grill. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Fiken presenterer et superenkelt regnskapsprogram for alt det regnskapsgreiene til bedriften din. | |
| Det var enkelt. | |
| Fiken. | |
| Et superenkelt regnskapsprogram. | |
| So, I want to pivot now a little because I've had a revelation. | |
| It's one of those things. | |
| I was talking about Liz Crokin and Pizzagate. | |
| And I just started getting hit by this, like, wave of thoughts. | |
| And it was really funny because I just came up with... | |
| I just had so many things hit me at once that I just thought doing a Twitter thread really wouldn't work because I had so many different things to talk about. | |
| But the first thing is... | |
| I realized how much context Liz Crokin took out of the very short email that states the words would love to get pizza for an hour, question mark. | |
| And that is her... | |
| That's literally her big thing. | |
| When she was arguing with Grok, she was like, he said he wanted to get pizza for an hour and that's not something people say. | |
| that meant he wanted a kid. | |
| But the email is actually in a thread. | |
| And that thread is YouTube free for dinner on 12th or 13th of January. | |
| And that is from John Podesta to Tony Podesta. | |
| And basically, I think it's just like the Podesta brothers trying to figure out when they'll be able to meet up to have a dinner. | |
| And I'm trying to find like the original, the first one because all of the posts are like re are you free for dinner on January 12th or 13th. | |
| but if you read through them, it is just a really boring series of emails and it's about how they are not able to coordinate. | |
| podesta says not for not 12th for me and the 13th is john's hand surgery when are you back and for how long and then um uh Tony says, back on the 12th, but may have to go to Somalia. | |
| Give me some dates. | |
| MLK Day, question mark. | |
| And the reply to that one, that might work. | |
| Somalia, geez. | |
| So if you actually read all of the emails, it's very obvious that this is just people trying to coordinate when they are going to be able to get together to hang out. | |
| But the actual email, the actual email that Liz brings up where she just highlights the words, would love to get pizza for an hour or it opens with saying, Mary not free. | |
| So that is, I was, it looks like it's Tony Podesta because he's sending this email to John Podesta. | |
| And he says, Mary not free, would love to get pizza for an hour. | |
| Question mark. | |
| And then the next thing he says, he types in is, or come over. | |
| So if you're just reading that, he's stating, Mary's not free on this day. | |
| Would you like to get pizza for an hour? | |
| Or maybe you guys could come over here and we could figure out something from there. | |
| The context of all these words makes the idea that you've extrapolated, would love to get pizza for an hour. | |
| It's incoherent because how does this random call for child trafficking fit into the rest of what was written there? | |
| And obviously it doesn't make any sense. | |
| It's very incoherent. | |
| And again, this is a thread that is titled about getting together on January 12th or 13th. | |
| So it's a specific date and a specific plan is being trying to being hatched about getting together to do this, to do this thing. | |
| And there's no logic. | |
| There's no logic to this. | |
| None of this makes any sense. | |
| This is very clearly people, busy people trying to put together the plans to get some pizza. | |
| That's it. | |
| That's really all it is. | |
| Or just to hang out. | |
| We're busy people and we're trying to get together to hang out and do a thing. | |
| And you have to pull that quote out of the email and then you have to start screaming and you have to start freaking out. | |
| And if you watch Out of Shadows, they darken the, they fuzz. | |
| They don't show you the title because they don't want to show you the whole, do you want to get dinner on the 12th or the 13th? | |
| And they fuzz it out. | |
| So the Marionotte Free is in the background. | |
| And it says, would love to get, and then would love to get is in yellow. | |
| And then, or come over is in yellow. | |
| But pizza for an hour is in orange red to let you know that it is evil that this man wanted to get quote unquote pizza for an hour. | |
| And I was thinking about this and why this is seen as evil in Liz's mind. | |
| And it dawned on me that this is evil because in her mind, this is how sex workers operate. | |
| I'm from, I'm from, I'm beautiful podcasting voice. | |
| Listen to the man mumble and stumble. | |
| So I was in Vegas for five years. | |
| If you ever wanted to feel like a handsome, attractive man, go to one of the SCSI hotels in Vegas and boy howdy, will you get hit up by sex workers? | |
| I may have told this story before, but I'll be brief. | |
| But when I was working at the Tropicana, the elevator would take you to the gaming floor and you'd be in one corner and the poker room would be on the absolute other side of the gaming floor. | |
| And I would have two options. | |
| One, wear my name tag and be harassed by customers that were distracting me from getting to my work location or to not work, wear my name tag and get hit on by all the sex workers. | |
| And I would saying no to a sex worker is a lot easier than trying to blow off a customer when you are an employee. | |
| So I would not wear my badge and boy howdy. | |
| Hey, Sugar, how you doing? | |
| Hey, handsome, where are you going? | |
| I just literally just fit the bill for dude that probably is looking for a sex worker. | |
| I just had that look on me that I was the ultimate mark for that stuff, apparently. | |
| Triple Tex. | |
| Triple Tex. | |
| NL. | |
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| Eller var det her? | |
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| Eller kanskje her? | |
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| So and so you would hear guys tell horror stories of their adventures with sex workers, because that's what you do when you're drunk and stupid in Vegas. | |
| And a recurring theme of being with a sex worker, A, is getting what's called trick rolled, where they just knock you out. | |
| They just drug your drink and boom, you're gone. | |
| And then they rob you. | |
| And then you have no legal recourse because you were engaged in a criminal act. | |
| And if you try to go to the cops, they'll be like, okay, now you're arrested for soliciting. | |
| Good job, idiot. | |
| And that was a thing that I heard more than a few sob stories over. | |
| But the other thing, the better but still bad outcome from hanging out with sex workers is the sex worker will tell you that they have an hourly rate and that if you want to get with them, it is going to cost you this much for the hour. | |
| And then you, because you want to get laid, pay for that. | |
| And once that happens, they basically start the clock on you and they will find ways to dilly dally and not get back to your room very quickly. | |
| And let's have a couple of drinks. | |
| Let's have a little fun. | |
| Let's, I don't know, let's play some slots. | |
| Let's do something before we get to your room or get to someplace private. | |
| And then when they finally, when you finally do get them back to your room and you finally get to them to start doing the sex acts, their job is to edge you. | |
| And their job is to edge you and then tell you, oh, sweetie, baby, honey, my hour is almost up here. | |
| If you want this to keep going, you're going to have to pay me for another hour. | |
| And when they got you in that spot, they got you. | |
| And you're going to agree to pay for another hour because you want to get off. | |
| And then you pay, they get you off and you just got charged double. | |
| So tough break, idiot. | |
| And that's one of the tricks that sex workers use. | |
| And that is how I think Liz looks at this email or she sees pizza for an hour and she thinks of this as prostitution or sex work. | |
| She just thinks, oh, this is a guy looking for some action. | |
| And that isn't how child trafficking would work. | |
| The child is defenseless against the person they are being given to to be assaulted. | |
| The child isn't going to string you along and bill you for a second hour. | |
| This is just a predator hurting a child. | |
| I mean, trigger warning, spoiler, all that stuff. | |
| Very sorry that we're getting into this. | |
| That's why we have the content warning at the start. | |
| But pizza for an hour in this context doesn't make any sense because A, these podestas are supposed to be at the top of the pyramid. | |
| Why are they just looking for a sex worker? | |
| This would be like Jeffrey Epstein saying, hey, I need a chick for an hour. | |
| Jeffrey, you're the one who controls the women. | |
| You can just call one of them and say, hey, come over here. | |
| I want you. | |
| Let's do this. | |
| So why is Podesta sounding like a John, just a regular guy trying to pick up a sex worker? | |
| And why is he saying it in the way that you would in this situation if you were an adult looking for an adult sex worker to be with? | |
| It's not, it doesn't come, it's not compatible with what the crime Liz is accusing these people of. | |
| Their crime would not be quote unquote pizza for an hour. | |
| It would be them saying something to the effect of, I want, you know, I want my favorite pizza. | |
| I want that one, I want that one thing that I really enjoy, my favorite. | |
| It'd be something creepy and sinister like that. | |
| It would be a far different phrasing, both because of where the podestas are on the pyramid of power when it comes to this network of trafficking and also because of the nature of their victims. | |
| There would be no time requirements for this. | |
| And Liz just looked at this, saw the hour thing, then put the two and two together for prostitution, which is not at all what this is about. | |
| It's not even on the same plane. | |
| Her mind is just full of brainworms. | |
| She's a very crazy and very dangerous and stupid person. | |
| So I just saw that And I was like, man, there's just so much stuff going on with this that I just got to talk about it. | |
| And I wanted to also talk about the whole Epstein list thing and how funny all that was. | |
| So I hope this was interesting. | |
| Hope that this was in some way, shape, or form entertaining and enjoyable. | |
| We'll be doing a four-man pod. | |
| We'll be talking about stuff. | |
| We were thinking about, we have some topics, we have some ideas. | |
| I don't want to give them all away. | |
| But the four-person pod will be coming up this weekend, probably. | |
| And hopefully you'll enjoy it. | |
| Hopefully you enjoyed this. | |
| Five-star review, all that good stuff. | |
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| Throw money at me. | |
| I'd appreciate it. | |
| If you don't want to do that, go to love146.org and give them money to fight human trafficking, to do stuff that Liz Grokin won't do because she doesn't actually care about any of this stuff. | |
| She just wants to sell her merch and be a grifter. | |
| Thanks to Frosty and DJ Minimal Effort for the intro and all that good stuff. | |
| Thank you all for listening and good speed. | |
| Patriots. | |
| Ponet Alte. |