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Adventures in HellwQrld Presents: The Big Beautiful Bill Passes and FEMA Death Camps!

This week the gang talks about the horrors Trump has inflicted on America and the supposed horrors that QAnon has imagined they would be suffering from if the Deep State won. Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/hellwqrld. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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The Adventures in Hell World podcast talks in depth about QAnon.
While it's meant to be comedic informative, sometimes we have to get into things like child abuse and violence against people.
Listener discretion advised.
Hello, everybody.
I am Mike Cranes, aka Poker and Politics, and welcome to another episode of Adventures in Hell World.
This week, I am joined by Chaley, aka Haley, aka Arizona Right Watch.
I'm not going to lie, that was so fucking funny.
I don't want to.
I'm going to.
Hello, listeners.
How are you?
I'm not going to spoil what just happened.
How are you?
We're all doing good.
Nothing bad just happened an hour ago.
We're doing good and not going in saying hello.
Eric's here.
We're also joined by Eric, the Deep State Operative.
Yeah, I just got kicked off Medicaid so hard that it booted my internet connection.
The second the pod started, it was just like Eric out.
Yeah, I'm like, why is there no music playing?
And then I see you guys bobbing your heads.
I'm like, okay, wait, no, something's happening.
Yeah, just couldn't have timed that up any better.
It was absolutely great.
I'm now 100% sure that Riverside is going to somehow brick this and we're not going to get Eric's audio.
It's going to be just.
You guys are going to be laughing at stuff that nobody else can hear.
Right.
Oh, yeah.
It's going to be, this is going to be great.
Everything's going to go great.
I'm so happy.
We're also joined by Steph.
How are you doing, Steph?
I'm good.
We're all good.
How are you?
Star Wars?
You are not incredibly loud, which is massively an improvement.
I'm very happy about that.
The ergonomics of sitting on my bed with my laptop tray were destroying my wrists.
So I had to move back to my desk.
Whatever you did, it worked because we did have one person message me on Twitter saying, Steph is too loud.
And I said, I know, we're working on it.
And then he said, thank you, King, which was the funniest thing I've ever had anyone say to me.
Basically, keyboards for Steph, you're too loud.
It's public.
You can find it.
Just check my replies.
It's in there.
I can't even keep up on my own.
Huh?
Steph only has bad audio because they're reporting from a submarine.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, it's like that scene from the abyss.
I keep waiting for a tentacle of water to come out and shape into Stephanie's face.
Why are you so blue?
Why is everything blue?
I have these really baller strip LED lights that I tape on my walls and you can change the colors and stuff like that.
So I alter the colors throughout the day.
I do love it.
Listeners, Stephanie's whole screen is just blue.
They are blue.
The light is blue.
It's just, it's a really cool vibe.
We're blue.
Daboo dee, daboo da.
Yes.
Yeah, she has a blue house with a blue window.
I was just talking about this before the pod, but I actually looked up that.
What is it?
It's like something Eiffel.
It's like Eiffel 65.
Eiffel 65, I think it was.
Yeah.
I actually looked.
I don't know why that song was randomly stuck in my head, but I looked up that song because I was like, I remember that being a real song.
I didn't just hallucinate it.
But then I watched it.
I'm like, holy shit, this music video is fucking crazy.
It's so the aliens are very interesting design.
It's a pretty typical 90s video, in my opinion.
Yeah, I guess I just was too little.
Yeah.
I the one thing I remember about that song was that this guy who's now having a cup of coffee of internet wrestling fame, his name is Joe Hendry.
He was on the indies and that was basically his gimmick was giving all of his opponents a song to ridicule them by.
And so his opponent was name was Drew.
So he made a video called I'm Drew instead of I'm Blue.
And it killed.
It was a great video.
The fans loved it.
It really like got everybody like happy.
And then they had their wrestling match.
So whenever I hear I'm blue, all I can think of is I'm Drew.
And it's yeah.
So that's my, that's my deep, that's my Joe Hendry deep cut lore knowledge for all of those of you who only know him from losing to Randy Orton at WrestleMania.
So I just remember like I dyed my hair blue a couple years ago and I go and I walk over and my son sees me and he and he's like four years old at the time and he just goes, I'm blue, da da da da da da.
I'm like, how do you even know that song?
Wow.
That song was big right around like the time that Insync was like really big and my friend Gary and I, we used to work in the back room at Macy's like in processing.
You know, we'd take the clothes out of the boxes and like tag them and put them on hangers and stuff.
And we'd be listening to like, you know, pop rock radio stations singing along with that song, listening to fucking InSync and Backstreet Voice.
The lyrics are fucking hilarious.
Yo, listen up.
Here's a story about a little guy that lives in a blue world and all day and night and everything he sees is just blue.
Like him inside and outside, blue his house with a blue little window and a blue Corvette and everything is blue for him and himself and everybody around because he ain't got nobody to listen to.
I'm blue.
That's Stephanie right now.
I love that song.
I love that song.
I guarantee that nobody tuning into this podcast was like, I bet they're going to talk about 90s Euro dance music.
Yeah, I was sitting here thinking to myself, we're going to have a talk through of the lyrics of a song from the 90s as a big part of the open of the show.
Now let's dissect Born Slippy by Underworld.
Yeah, I was open for What is Love?
Yeah, 20 million people just lost their health care.
And now let's analyze what hit me one more time really meant.
What was Brittany truly trying to say?
The rest of the opportunity.
Leave Brittany alone.
Don't make me cry.
You want to just start making us cry, Mike?
You want to just get into it?
You want to this just the thing that's like so the thing that's just really aggravating about it for me is just living in the world that I live in is just going to all these Twitter feeds and looking all these people who are just like, yes, yes, it happened.
Oh, we won.
And just looking at them and thinking, what did you win?
What have you obtained?
What is the victory here?
But these people are so far gone.
They're so totally fucked that they really think they've done something, that they've, that they, these workaday mooks and these grifter quote unquote journalists, really think that America has just been saved thanks to this train wreck of a bill that was just railroaded through, mostly through the dead of night, with the exception that Hakeem Jeffries did an eight-hour filibuster to make them pass it during the day.
Just all of it is, it's so ridiculous.
And just seeing all the happiness, seeing all the people that are just so over the moon.
They love the idea of ICE being this massive paramilitary force that's going to go around just grabbing people off the streets.
Just all, it's like, what the fuck is this?
We are so fucked.
And we have a massive minority in this country who is just pumping their fists, who are just like, fascism is good.
We are happy.
This is happening.
Take that, Libs.
You got owned.
And it's just.
Yeah, that's the real thing they get.
That's the thing they actually is that we're owned.
Yeah.
That's the only victory that they achieve in those.
I mean, I always take these screenshots with a grain of salt because, you know, who knows who's really posting this, but I saw this one person who was like, you know, I voted for Trump to own the Libs, Libs, and I'm proud of it, but I'm diabetic and now I'm going to lose my Medicaid.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
That felt like trolley.
Yeah.
And I'm also wondering, because I keep seeing people posting this retweet by this one representative who like, you can only see part of the original tweet and it says, you know, 17 million people just got kicked off healthcare, 15 million people, blah, blah.
And he goes, and his response was yes, with an exclamation point.
And I wonder, because he's like, I can only see that one little bit of it.
So I keep wondering, is there another bit to the tweet that he's possibly responding to and not the, I just killed 17 million people parts?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Andy Biggs is current rep, U.S. rep, Arizona.
Andy Biggs is also currently bragging that like, like he posted a video of himself, like, I'm about to go vote for the Big Beautiful Bill.
And it was like a video of him just walking to go vote.
And then like another tweet that was bragging that like the Freedom Caucus, which he's a part of, helped like craft this.
Just like taking full credit for, and he's currently running for governor here.
And it's just like, I thought the Freedom Caucus was a group that was kind of sort of against the bill.
I don't understand why the media ever even reported this.
They kept saying this too.
This was like a local narrative happening that like the Freedom Caucus was going to be the people that voted against it on the Republican side.
And it's like, no, they're not.
No, they're not.
They're literally the most biggest Trump ass kissers of all of them.
Yeah, because they got rid of all the Freedom Caucus members who were actually standing up to him.
They all got primaried.
Yeah.
I mean, I was just going to say the bright side is that now we don't have to worry about what's going on in Israel and Iran because we won't live long enough to find out.
Mike, you know what are the details in some of this bill?
Well, the big thing that the bill does that's really interesting is that it's trying to push all like the Medicaid cuts and the big cuts back a few years so they're like past the midterms and all this kind of stuff.
But that doesn't matter because all these hospitals and all these health services know the cuts are coming and they're going to react accordingly.
So you can't tell them to keep everything working as normal and then just close December 2026 after the midterms, after we like try to sneak the House and the Senate through for the Republicans.
Then we hit him with the old one two.
Oh, no, now your hospital got closed down.
Oh, he thinks there's going to be midterms.
Okay, Steph.
So like, so we're not.
That level of dystopianness to me is just, well, then what are we going to do then?
So, okay, then just put your back to the wall and call it a day at that point.
I have seen a lot of people saying that, so we did kind of have to bring it up, though.
And of course, Stephanie's got to be the black-pilled one.
Of course.
I know, I know, I know.
There might still be men's terms, I have to say.
There could still be the idea.
The doe-eyed optimism.
What you are talking about is full-blown civil war.
And what, oh, God, I mean, you, Steph, you are the one who always asks me, Mike, how much, how worried should I be?
And then I tell you, you really shouldn't be that worried.
And then you come around and be like, Mike, guess what?
American democracy is dead.
They're going to round you up and kill you very soon, Mike.
I know.
We do have to bring that up because it is a concern of a lot of people whether there will be more elections.
There will be midterms.
If I'm wrong, then guess what?
I don't care because at that point, I'm going to be bleeding out in the parking lot of a 7-Eleven after a few months.
If we don't have midterms, if we don't have elections anymore, if American democracy is dead, then shit is going to get so bad so fast.
There's no point in even talking about it because there's nothing we can do at that point.
It would be such a shit show because we have thanks to the magic and glory of federalism.
If Trump was like, guess what?
No midterms, then guess what?
Welcome to the Republic of California.
Welcome to the Republic of New York and New England and all that kind of stuff.
So much shit would happen if that gauntlet ever got thrown down.
Now, do I think we would have midterms?
Then after those midterms, the Republicans refuse to acknowledge the results of those elections and it gets very ugly and very contentious afterwards.
Yes, that is totally a thing that could possibly happen.
But the idea that we are just going to unilaterally stop having elections in this country right now is that's a meatball with a little too much spice on it.
And I think that anyone who putting anyone who's going to put themselves in that headspace, don't do that to yourself.
There's no good that can come of it.
Like, I mean, that is the kind of ultimate bleakness that just, there's no good resolution from that.
There's no, oh yeah, we're not going to be able to vote our way out of this one now.
So then I guess, flee for Canada.
I mean, that's, that's your win condition at that point.
If Mexico is closer, make a run to that border, however you want to do it, get out of this country now.
I think a lot of the people saying we're not going to have midterms, they're just like venting their spleens.
But it's like, if it really is, if you really are so bad off that you think that this is it, that America is gone, then maybe just unplug from the internet for a couple of days, get some perspective, you know, go touch some grass and then, you know, have it, have a couple deep breaths and then come back and say, wait, maybe it's not, you know, the end of the world as we know it.
Yeah, I mean, this is really fucking bad.
There's no doubt about that.
But guess what?
The moral of the story is, is that as bad as things are, they can always get worse.
Things, there's another, you can always go down another level.
That's one of the things that always drives me nuts about people when you ask them to vote in elections and stuff like that.
People are like, ah, how much worse can it get?
The other side ain't going to give me much.
Fuck you.
I'm going to sit this one out.
And it's like, guess what?
It can always get much worse than you think it is currently.
You can always deal with more.
It's always going to get you done.
I do have a secondary question, though, to some of this topic is that like, I also don't think that elections will be canceled.
But I do wonder, Mike, because it is a thing that a lot of people are talking about.
Like, do you think Trump will try to run for a third term?
Given the way they structured this bill, it really feels like he won't because it feels like the fact that they've set up so much of this bill to be like a bomb that goes off in 2028.
It just feels like Trump's going to be like, yeah, Vance, good luck with that.
Smell you later.
That and the, I mean, it's mostly, I just think if Donald Trump was 10 years younger and not senile, he would run for a third term 100% and Republicans would try to back his play and it would be a huge kerfluffle and it would be a huge ordeal and it would be a mess and it would really suck.
But the fact that we have very old, very senile Trump as our president right now, dude's just running the clock out.
He doesn't give a shit about anything.
He doesn't care.
So I don't think he's running for a third term mostly because I just don't think he has it in him.
I feel like in 2027 and basically after the midterms, I feel like they're going to sit him down and they're going to reassure him that no matter what, like be it Vance wins the election or on the last day of Trump's presidency, he resigns the presidency.
And then President Vance has a 24-hour pardonorama where he just pardons everyone on the way out the door as all of his official acts as the one day president is to just make sure that all the crimes get covered up permanently.
And then we just sweep the Trump administration under the rug and there's no legal way to go after any of them.
Something like that will happen.
I just don't think Trump has the gas in the tank to run for a third term.
I mean, I keep saying this, but I honestly don't think that he'll make it to the end of this term because he thinks exercise is unhealthy and he eats buckets of chicken daily.
I mean, if he didn't have the money to have all the health care he could ever want, he never would have made it this far.
And the other thing is there was a great question.
Someone asked him, they said, like, how long will the detainees stay in Alligator Alcatraz?
And he thought the question was about himself.
And he was like, oh, I love my home state.
I stay here all the time.
It's a great state.
So a long time, I hope.
And the person very clearly said detainees.
And so if you want to blame it on hearing loss and you heard the question wrong, well, then the president needs hearing aids.
So let's get on that chop, chop.
Let's like make it so the president can hear questions right.
And if he heard the question right and didn't understand the word detainees and just made it about himself, well, now we have to worry about the president's cognitive functions.
And we've always had to worry about this.
I mean, this has been my drum to bang on for forever.
But I mean, it was like three days before the election.
It was in the final week.
There was two different rallies Trump did where he talked about the weave.
And he talked about how he's like, you know, the weave ain't going to work forever.
And when it doesn't, yeah, we'll have to have a talk.
But for right now, it's genius.
I'm a genius.
I'm such a smart, clever guy.
It's great.
And every time I see him speaking now, I'm like, is today the day we have to talk about the weave?
Is today the day we decide, oh, wait, turns out that his brain is putting and he can't be president anymore.
It's time to get Vance in there because the current president doesn't understand anything and is actually now incoherent to the point of needing to be removed.
And our media, who spent forever running Joe Biden out of the election because he's really old and soft-spoken and it took him a couple seconds to compose his thoughts, is now completely, completely in the tank, ignoring the fact that Trump is delusional.
I mean, it's great.
It's just absolutely great.
Yeah, because they need headlines.
He is the political version of if it bleeds, it leads.
Yes.
Yeah.
Anytime he opens his mouth, it's headlines.
Yes.
100% that.
Okay.
So this budget bill, I was looking at just like kind of a brief summary of some of the stuff that's in this.
And obviously cuts to food benefits like SNA and whatnot.
So cuts to that, cut to Medicaid.
So like poor people die, essentially, is what it's saying.
No tax on tips was apparently put in this, but it has an expiration date of 2028, which is very funny to me.
Oh, yeah.
And it's capped at like $25,000 for the tips.
And I think it's like the same thing with overtime.
Like the cap on the tax on overtime is like $1,200.
It's like $12,500.
So it's like this really small cap on overtime tax.
Yeah, there's like a lot of specifics in here.
But obviously, I think that one of the most important things that we should probably talk about, since it's kind of our main episode, is the increases that are happening.
The funding to ICE, immigration, DHS, and all that.
Which is going to be pretty fucking significant.
For listeners who don't know, there's a child currently on the podcast.
I don't know how much I should swear right now.
I bet you're tall.
I was talking about Stephanie.
Stephanie.
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Is it okay to swear again, Eric?
Is your power gone?
No, I'm just kidding.
Yeah, no, I'm sorry.
I look over and I suddenly I see mischief happening, so I had to dash.
He just wanted to pod.
Yeah, that was it.
But anyway, so this big, beautiful bill, as they call it, the budget, 1,000 pages?
Holy fuck, man.
Yeah.
Yeah, and then I think it was the Senate Democrats that forced them to read the entire thing and it took like 15 hours to read.
Yeah, Chuck Schumer made them read the whole bill before they debated it.
And I saw a bunch of Republican senators trying to come up with a way to say that that's a bad thing without saying why it's a bad thing.
That reminded me of when in Trump's first term, they had like the Republicans had this big heart on and they did this thing where they wanted to read the entire Constitution and then they somehow skipped the page about the three-fifths compromise and it was just like, oh yeah, sorry we missed that.
Our bad, our biscuit.
Whoopsie.
Yeah.
Okay, here's the specifics of how much it's going to be funding detentions and ICE.
So the bill will provide $170 billion for immigration enforcement and detentions.
$45 billion will go to creating new detentions throughout the country.
That's a 265 increase in their current, 265% increase in their current budget.
And yeah, it basically makes them the third largest military in the world.
So that's wild.
I think that's going to like pretty drastically change the nature of immigration, unfortunately.
Oh, the Olympics and the World Cup are going to be really hard to run in America, like as in probably not going to be happening here because how could they?
How could they?
Right.
Yeah, that'll actually be interesting.
I wonder how that'll even fucking work.
And I'm seeing all these weird things.
Like, you know, the Republicans have this like solid Christian, you know, church base and they want it, they insisted that people be in the churches during COVID when it wasn't safe to be.
And now, you know, and I'm not saying every church member voted for this shit or whatever, but now churches are empty because people are afraid to leave their homes because of ICE.
Church attendance is down because of the GOP.
Oh, they don't care.
They don't care at all.
No, but I just wanted to say that, you know, like this stuff is affecting everyone on every level.
Even if you are like super rich, super white, cis heteromale, you're still being affected in ways you may not even know because this is a chain reaction.
It's a butterfly effect.
And it affects everyone.
And it's horrible.
This is super disturbing.
Okay, so they get $170 billion for immigration and detention.
$17 million of that is going to the so-called alligator alcatraz, the concentration camp in Florida.
That's like a fucking drop in the bucket.
That's nothing.
They have a lot of money to play with.
The alligator Alcatraz stuff, anyone got any thoughts on that?
I just saw the video of it already flooding and how they fucking...
Yeah, and they're like, and they're like, oh, well, it's hurricane proof.
Yeah, it was, well, yeah.
Well, they're still going to just, you know, die.
It doesn't matter if the water is caused by a hurricane or a regular flood, still going to kill you.
So, yeah.
Yeah.
You know, Arizona kind of has one of the most infamous.
You know, there's American history is filled with horrible blights of concentration camps.
It's actually almost, it's so obnoxious to watch the FEMA death camp like movies that I watched that were like fear-mongering that like essentially white people will get put in camps.
And it's just like America has this long history of putting like different types of immigrants in camps.
But that's not what they were talking about.
Yeah, but they're not white.
So who cares?
Yeah, it's like that's not what these movies were about.
But it was just like so frustrating to fucking watch these at the moment.
But the alligator Alcatraz stuff.
So like in Arizona, there was basically like almost 25 years of tent city in the dead center of Phoenix here, which was the era that Joe Arpaio served as the sheriff in Maricopa County.
And that, he, you know, he's actually unfortunately still alive.
But he doesn't know it.
I mean, he's like 100 years old and they just put him in front of a microphone and he's just like, I like tapioca.
Yeah.
Rambling when they put him on stage.
But Trump, Trump brings him to the, like he goes to the Trump events.
He goes to the Trump rallies.
A lot of people talk about how, you know, Trump kind of models some of his immigration stuff after the Arpaio era.
And there was this sort of sensationalist nature of the Arpaio era, too, where he would like bring celebrities on raids pretty infamously.
Oh, yeah, Steven Seagal wasn't there.
Yeah, wasn't Steven Seagal like an actual sheriff's deputy at the time, though?
Oh, no.
Not that that excuses it, but.
It was like a pseudo-deputization or something like that.
Dodalop did like a two-part episode on a three-part episode on what a piece of shit Steven Seagal is.
Like, yeah, he used to do these like reality show.
He did one reality show stunt, and I think it was with our pile, where they raided like a cockfighter house and they ended up like murdering all of the chickens.
Like did that accomplish?
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
The the the the fucking oh, it's it's the the shit that fucking Stallone was part of was the he he got certified under the Law Enforcement Officer Safety Act, which like was he was part of a scam that basically let like was like letting rich people get certified under this.
I it was yeah, it's it's some like pay-for-play scheme.
But anyway, uh, he infamously did kill a dog here and destroy a house and a tank, all televised with Arpaio.
And then the tent city that Arpaio ran, which like does kind of mimic some of what we're seeing, I think, in this alligator Alcatraz shit, the concentration camp in Florida.
It was unused tents from the Korean War that they just put in the middle of the Phoenix Desert and put people from the jail in there.
And then also it had a unit for undocumented immigrants.
And like, you know, we talk about how many people are going to die at this, which is absolutely going to happen.
As long as it stays open, people will die.
People have already died in, like, the recent wave of roundups and detentions.
And in Tent City, that definitely happened.
There's, like, it's known that, like, hundreds of people died.
Is Tent City the one where he was, like, having them do, like, manual labor out in the sun wearing pink and that kind of thing?
Yeah, so Arpaio brought back the chain gangs.
He even had a juvenile chain gang and a female chain gang, which is, yeah, crazy.
It was very much presented at the time by, like, even Normie Media as, like, this kind of, like, tough on crime, world's toughest sheriff.
Like, men don't want to wear pink underwear, so they won't do crime.
And, like, the pink underwear thing is just so, like, homophobic.
Like, yeah.
Listeners, for those of you who don't know, Arpaio would make all the male inmates wear pink uniforms and pink underwear.
They also got fed rotten food, like, pretty infamously.
Like, he bragged about, like, buying food that was already rotten for the inmates.
And what's really funny about that is that Jorapio was old enough that he should remember that back in the early 20th century, pink was the boy's color and blue was the girl's color.
Yeah, literally.
And he was Italian.
I think it was.
Yeah.
But, yeah.
But, yeah.
So, I think what we're going to see at the Alligator Alcatraz, the concentration camp in Florida is going to be that on, like, hyperdrive.
Humidity is hard to deal with.
And, yeah, hurricanes.
Yeah.
Everything sucks.
Yeah.
So, this, I mean, it's just really depressing that this is where we are now.
And it's like, all of this was eminently foreseeable.
And so many people in America just decided to not care.
My favorite thing from the lead up to this election was John Stewart had a quote that was like, if your guy doesn't win, bad things might happen.
And it was just this idea that, hey, look, guys, Biden sucks.
Trump sucks.
What are you going to do?
One of them's going to win.
We'll get over it.
And it's like, no, that's just not the way this works.
One of these people is objectively far worse than the other.
And you, the guy of a platform, should talk about that.
But so many people in our country just couldn't be bothered.
And it was just like, how bad could it possibly be if Trump gets back in?
Incredibly bad.
Incredibly fucking bad.
And here we are now.
Here we are now.
And this is six months.
This is six months in.
I mean, Lord knows what else they'll try to do before the midterms that we will have.
But it's just, it's just really just incredibly frustrating that, like, this, this wasn't some shocking twist.
This wasn't so, oh, I can't believe Trump did this.
Oh, my stars and garters.
I'm not fanning myself freaking out over it.
It's like, no, this was, this was a straight line.
This was literally Trump wins election.
This happens.
This was from point A to point B. Yeah, he told, he told people he would do this.
And they're all like, he doesn't mean it.
Yeah.
I mean, that, that is the thing that is so insane about this is that the reverse of that is the standard reaction that people have to politicians.
It's like, oh yeah, that guy says that, but he's full of shit.
He'll never get it done.
Like, that is an objective thing that I would like him to do, but he won't be able to do it.
But that was the brakes.
Meanwhile, these Trump supporters are saying, he said he was going to do a thing I didn't want him to do, but I was sure he wouldn't do it.
So I'm still going to support him anyways.
Even though he has said he wants to do the thing I don't want him to do.
Smash cut to him doing that thing.
Yeah.
Do you like people pretending that he wasn't calling for mass deportations?
The people posting the, the, the screen, the photos of the RNC, where people are holding up the signs, mass deportations now.
I mean, as, as, as I heard it a million times on various podcasts, people were talking about the racially named operation under Eisenhower that Trump wants to model his thing after.
And I get it.
I get it.
Slurs are bad.
You don't want to say slurs, but it just felt so.
I'm not going to say it.
I'm allowed though, but I'm not going to.
That's okay.
Anyone who really wants to know, they can look it up.
Operation Moist Rear.
Yes.
That's what we're doing.
Moist hindquarters.
Yes.
I just saw an article on Newsweek.
And since it's Newsweek and they're owned by the same company that owns the Daily Beast, I'm going to wait to see other confirmation from reliable outlets.
But apparently a MAGA guy with a Trump flag flying in his yard.
His Iranian wife just got taken away by ice.
And he's like, I'm still going to fly that flag.
I love Trump.
I have background in that story because guess where that occurred?
Arizona.
It was in Arizona.
I'm going to go ahead and prematurely just say that we, as people, should actually be still outraged by this incident.
Because what happened was essentially there was an Iranian man here who was taken by ICE and he was the Trump supporter.
And he is Iranian, but he brandishes himself.
I'm not saying this.
He's anti-Muslim, he says.
loves trump um his brother who is also an iranian immigrant tried to help his deportation case and got taken by ice also and his wife who is an american citizen and a uh veteran also got taken by ice um because she threatened them to from coming into her home.
So this whole family's been targeted, but the brother that was initially taken is a Trump guy.
Oh, Wonder Bar.
And I've seen, I haven't seen it with this specific case, but I've seen it from other people, you know, in similar situations where they're like, well, so are you okay with ICE detaining American citizens?
And they're like, well, she should have just done what they said.
I love that shit.
I love that.
The same people who always talk about if there's a knock on my door, like five bullets are going through it with an AR-15.
You don't come into my house about like getting into a firefight guaranteed.
The same people are like, nothing to fear, nothing to hide.
Should have complied.
Should have listened.
Yeah, they're the same guys that same Brianna Taylor got what she deserved.
Laying in bed and everything.
Yes.
Our main episode is kind of supposed to be about FEMA death camps.
And I'm not going to lie, I watched way too many FEMA right-wing documentaries.
Like Alex Jones has done like four.
It's like, bro, stop.
Police state seven.
Yeah, that's personal.
I was just going to say police state five.
I love the police.
Okay, that should be the name of the next episode because, or the next movie, because for real, it was so infuriating watching this, them being like, the police are going to come for you, white people.
Hey, remember Waco?
You guys remember Ruby Ridge?
It's going to happen to all of us, to all the white people.
Anyways, what's happening right now with ICE is based.
Exactly.
But there's nothing racist about that.
No, not at all.
That's my biggest thing because, I mean, like, I had different conspiracy periods of my life.
And some, you know, I wasn't necessarily actively aware that I was engaging in.
But I grew up and, you know, like, I was aware of what was going on with Ruby Ridge and Waco.
And you don't have to be left wing or right-wing to sit down and go, hey, Waco and Ruby Ridge were really fucked up.
And the government really fucked us on that.
Whether you, look, the shit they were doing at Waco was flat out wrong.
Did we handle it right?
Fuck no.
The shit at Ruby Ridge, the government set Randy Weaver up.
Would he have sold a sold-off shotgun if an undercover agent had approached him?
We don't know.
We don't know.
And they shot his son in the back.
Yeah, his son shot a federal agent, but they shot his son in the back and they ran over his dog with a tank.
That shit has haunted us for years because not long after like Ruby Ridge and Waco, there was like that shit with the Montana Freeman and there was like a standoff and the government actually should have pushed further in that instance, but they didn't.
And then with the Bundies and the Bundies have done it several times.
And because of that, the government doesn't know how to handle this shit anymore.
And because of that, we have all these militia people who were afraid of FEMA camps who are now cheering them off.
Okay, so what's the origins of this kind of like FEMA death camp kind of conspiracy?
Like, where does it kind of like originate from?
70s.
First mention that we found when we were researching for our Twitch stream last week, that was Quacks Found in the 1970s was when it first started.
And of course, a lot of it came from, I'm not sure who the origin was, but a lot of it did come from Phil Cooper.
In fact, Bill Cooper's callers would come in and say, hey, I'm Steve from FEMA Region 8.
And I checked the Fudgy database.
And just a few days ago, Alex Jones had a caller calling from FEMA Region 7.
So it was a big thing with the Bill Cooper crowd.
And a lot of it really got a big start with Linda Thompson.
She's the one that basically popularized the Clinton body count theory.
She went to an abandoned Amtrak station in 94 and filmed it.
It's just a concentration camp.
Old lady, it's an abandoned Amtrak station.
Okay, so like Waco and Ruby Ridge were the 90s.
What was going on in the 70s that was making people like fearmonger about FEMA death camps?
Like post-Vietnam War shit, obviously.
Yeah, and you had like, you had the rise of like, you had like more neo-Nazis, more neo-Nazi groups that were starting to kind of implant themselves and solidify themselves and stuff like that.
And I mean, you know, a lot of paranoia about everything in general just comes from the fucking virtues.
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You talking about the John Burch Society?
Oh, the best society.
the john based society Oh, and surprise, surprise.
John Burch Society is a white supremacist.
Oh, yeah.
No, come on.
They're freedom fighters.
But it began, and it got there was there was more of an explosion because I was in this world at the time.
I didn't really think that CBC was going to happen.
But with Obama and the rise of the Tea Party, and then you had Jade Helm in 2015.
And I even posted about this last week.
Like if you were freaking out over Jade Helm, but you're totally fine with what's going on right now, you need to check yourself.
Explain the Jade Helm stuff for the listeners.
It was basically a hide-and-seek military LARP.
It was a stage drill with actors.
No, no, they were actual military people.
And they were going to play hide-and-seek LARP like they were going to do paintball.
Yeah, it was a military exercise in the American South in Texas.
And we had various Republicans talking about how they were going to have their National Guard monitor Jade Helm to make sure nothing happened.
And there was all this talk about Walmarts that were abandoned or that were going to be refurbished into death camps.
So it was Walmarts and dumbs.
Yep.
Oh, yeah.
So yeah, like Jade Helm was, that was their, one of their favorite conspiracy nonsense things.
And so we had, we had Jade Helm and Jade Helm and this kind of conspiracy theory about people being trapped in FEMA death camps.
This now in the modern era is the opposition to the 15 minute city.
The idea of having a walkable city, you might think that means convenience, but for the conspiracy-minded, it means it's a city to imprison you in, that you're going to be trapped in this tiny city with no way to get out of it.
And then when they decide to purge you, that will be the end of you.
So they managed to turn what sounds like a really awesome idea, a really convenient town where you can walk to the grocery store.
You can walk to the school to get your kids after school and your kids can walk to the school without having to take a school bus.
All these good things.
Nope.
Set up by the Illuminati to execute you and drain you of your adrenochrome.
That's the actual plan.
It's not convenience.
It's death for Moloch.
It's just.
I hate this conspiracy so much, this element of this, because I love public transportation.
I just want a nice bike path.
You fucks.
And yeah, the like the people that fearmonger about this here that have like political influence are very much like, yeah, you know, it's, it's for the, so you do those, the, you know, everything bad, everything bad, you're going to be drinking poop water, which is literally what the local group that's crazy about the 15 Minute City shit here talks about.
They're like, you're going to drink poop water.
And it's like, stop it.
Stop it.
I just want to take a fucking bus and then also take a light rail and then maybe an Amtrak and get some groceries in my neighborhood and a dispensary also.
Stop it.
And go to a farmer's market.
I just want to have convenient local stuff.
And they're like, it won't be so convenient when they lock you in and then it's all over.
It's like, oh, hey, if they give me 15 years of a good 15-minute city, then they can execute me later.
I'll be happy.
It's a fair trade.
It's a fair trade.
That's our dystopian movie.
It's just countdown.
You get 15 years in the 15-minute city, but make it count.
Yeah.
I mean, I'm here for it.
You know, okay, I want to get back to FEMA death camps.
I have so many questions.
But I do kind of, you know, like The Simpsons, it's actually the EPA in the movie, but the paranoia that right-wingers display about FEMA death camps kind of gives me like they took The Simpsons movie way too seriously.
The Simpsons are predictive programming.
The Simpsons are a major part of conspiracy lore that basically everything that ever happened in The Simpsons is a foretelling of the prophecy.
And there's all kinds of media that shows you The Simpsons predicted 9-11 and all this other kind of stuff.
And when The Simpsons don't predict things nowadays, people use AI slop to create fake Simpsons.
Like when that boat hit that bridge in Baltimore, people had AI slop of a Simpsons episode where a boat hit a bridge in Baltimore.
And then people had the community note that.
And then they'd be like, no, that's not a real Simpsons episode and all that good stuff.
Okay, so FEMA death camps, what's their deal?
Where are they going to be held?
Why are we getting put in them?
Why do right-wingers, like, what's the point?
What's the point?
The point is, is that it's authoritarian overreach and it's how the liberals are finally going to execute you for your crimes.
That's the point.
The point is that you, the like patriot freedom fighter, democracy, blah, blah, blah, you are going to be destroyed for your speaking out and fighting against the government and all that good stuff.
And they're going to slip these FEMA death camps in and brainwash the liberal normies into thinking that they're good because they're re-education camps or re-training stations or some other benign sounding thing that will be not bad.
And then once you get in there, oh, you're executed.
You're just dead.
And this is a way to jeep up hysteria.
Anytime the government does anything, the whole point of the FEMA part of the FEMA death camp now is that a city or a state is devastated by a natural disaster.
FEMA comes in and it's like, oh, now they're just going to like blow up this area for BlackRock to make it a bigger thing so that BlackRock can make their money off of it.
And while they're doing that, they will also start to do more evil, bad things for their Illuminati overlords.
It's just this never-ending way to make people paranoid about the government doing good things that literally the government's coming in here to rebuild a devastated community.
And instead of being like, oh, look, our tax dollars going to, going to do good, going to do a thing that is something we should approve of, it's just, nope, government's there to execute the poor citizens that have been devastated by this hurricane.
That's the actual goal of the government.
That's the objective here.
And it's just so up is down, so left is right, so totally nonsensical and the inverse of reality that, I mean, it's insane.
It's just absolutely insane.
And it's just designed to feed into paranoia and anti-government conspiracy theories and all that good stuff.
Yeah, okay, because I was kind of obviously young when Katrina happened, but I would assume that that probably fed into a lot of FEMA death camp paranoia, or did it not?
I don't know.
Well, it didn't really because Katrina happened under Bush.
And I mean, there were people who did hate W and all that good stuff, but there wasn't this worry that Bush was going to herd you off to the FEMA death camps.
That was Clinton and then it was Obama.
Bush was more just he did 9-11 to get his war in Iraq.
But the right-wing kind of militia groups, they really couldn't use Bush as a like helpful tool to promote their bullshit because he was pretty hard right-wing.
And so trying to create a narrative of, oh yeah, Bush is bad because he's going to do bad things for us.
It was like, well, that's kind of silly because he's on your team, really.
I mean, Bush is your boy.
So what are you talking about?
Like, you can't tell me Bush is some crazy far-left lib who's going to take your guns and send you off to the death camps, the re-education camps.
He's your guy.
The gun confiscation thing was kind of a reoccurring element of these Alex Jones FEMA death camp movies that I watched.
Oh, yeah.
The great gun grab.
So funny because it's like, look at America.
Look at it.
Like, there's so many fucking guns.
They're not taking your guns.
You're good.
I wish people would stop believing this.
And Quax has been doing some articles on his Patreon lately that draws an interesting connection between the NRA and conspiracy theories about false flags.
And there's also the fact that when in the aftermath of a school shooting, a lot of times, you know, conspiracy theorists have this K-bona who benefits.
The NRA ultimately benefits before and after every mass shooting because gun sales always go up in the wake of a mass shooting.
And the NRA, it's a paid article on Quax Anonymous Patreon.
He has, I think, four stories of so far.
He, what was his name, Neil, I forget his last name, Neil Knox was like a vice president of the NRA, was seeding stuff about like JFK being killed by the government and MLK being a false flag and all this stuff.
He was seeding that kind of stuff back in the 70s.
So a lot of the gun grab narrative actually comes from the people who have the most to lose if their guns were ever grabbed.
Yeah.
And that's the thing is that the NRA likes it when Democrats are in power because they can drum up fear about the great gun grab.
And that's one of the things that drives me a wall about people back in the, back during this election, people were saying stuff like, oh, when Roe got overturned by the courts, people were like, oh, well, the Democrats didn't codify Roe because if they'd codified it, they wouldn't have been able to run on it.
And my reaction was the Second Amendment has been reinterpreted to say that anyone can have a gun.
So that's literally the Constitution.
We now literally have a constitutional right in this country to own guns and to wield them.
And Republicans run on that right being taken away from you all the time.
It is literally one of their favorite things to campaign on.
So the idea that, oh, if we had a law that said abortion was like the law of the land, Democrats couldn't run on that law being taken away.
That's why they didn't do it.
It's just, it's just so silly.
Like, have you followed American politics in the last hundred years?
Have you seen what people talk about?
I mean, it's just truly head injury level stupid.
It's just so insane.
Everybody, Eric left.
That's why he's not talking anymore.
We didn't kill him.
He actually had dinner with his family because he's a family man.
Yeah, Eric has a life, unlike us, us pathetic wretches who do nothing but just go on the internet and complain about things.
Wow, how dare you?
That's me.
I play Sims, too.
This is true.
I play Animal Crossing.
Yeah.
Oh, man.
But yeah, this is where we're at right now.
This is not great.
It's suboptimal.
We had some other stuff we were going to talk about.
We were going to bang out some fun stuff about the Denver airport conspiracies and all the Illuminati bullshit there and blah, blah, blah.
But, you know, the one big, beautiful bill kind of yucked everybody's yum.
It kind of really kind of turned things into a darker, less optimal situation because this sucks.
And there's really no way to unsuck it because that's the nature of our beautiful American Republic and all that good and all that jazz.
So, yeah.
Just in time for the fourth.
Yeah, just in time to celebrate the birth of America, which this is where I, as the history nerd, get to get up on my soapbox and talk about how America's actual Declaration of Independence was on the second.
Yep.
So happy Independence Day yesterday.
Yeah.
Happy yesterday's independence.
Today is happy getting rid of all the attacks on slavery out of the Declaration of Independence Day because January 2nd was when they passed the vote to declare independence.
The third was when they took a hacksaw to the Declaration of Independence.
And then the fourth is when they showed the declaration to the American public and said, guess what we just did two days ago?
Bet you didn't see that coming, did you, folks?
And then the American people were like, eh, sounds good enough to us.
Like, I'm dying of dysentery.
I don't care.
Exactly.
Exactly.
Oh, man.
So, yeah.
And I wanted to say thank you because, like, yeah, I was joking about the midterm stuff, but a little part of me was kind of scared about that.
And anyone, whether you're like me and you used to be a conspiracy theorist or even if you're a normie and you've never been in that stuff with the way, as crazy as things are, everyone should have at least two or three friends, good stoic friends.
And mine are usually Mike and Griff.
Those are the two stoics that I usually go to.
And I also go to class too, but I, you know, sometimes if I find myself thinking something that might not totally make sense, I appreciate that I have friends that can bring me back in.
Because for me, it is a bit of a struggle sometimes to maintain sanity.
So thank you.
Glad to be of service, I guess.
Question mark.
You know, it's hard to maintain sanity right now when there's a pretty good chunk of the country that's like fascism good.
And then there's also like the media institutions have just completely dissolved or capitulated or like all we kind of have left is like weird grifty people.
It's hard to like fight through the noise.
I think you actually have, it's impossible to get everything correct.
It's impossible to not sometimes fall for some bullshit.
It's impossible to just get, just be right about everything.
But the world moves on is the best way I can put it because I think things are going to get pretty dark at some points.
I think there are.
I mean, you know, not to keep hounding on this, but like they released like the doc, like the court documents about the literal torture that Kilmar Abrego Garcia went through, like actual literal torture, like, like actual torture.
And yeah, I think there's going to be a lot of horrible, horrible stories that we're going to hear.
But unfortunately, the world keeps turning.
So we have to deal with it and we have to fight for a better world because that's, that's the charge we've been dealt, baby.
Yeah, pretty much.
I mean, that's it.
I mean, that's really, that's really all we have in this world right now.
The one funniest thing I saw was someone had a post about like kind of all the backstabbers and they were like, fuck Jon Stewart and fuck this person and fuck this person.
And then at the, in the middle of their swear fest, they said, and fuck Rob Reiner.
And I was like, yeah, take that Rob Reiner.
Get him.
Get his ass.
It's just made me laugh.
And I'm like, cause I hate Rob Reiner for totally different reasons.
And we all collectively hate Rob Reiner.
Like everybody.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And oh yeah, by the way, everybody, I'm going to, I'm going to pivot this to land the plane in a slightly more happy tone.
I, I, I, I, I, before this big, beautiful bill passed and all this good stuff, I got to have one of the most fun days of my life because I had a Twitter post of mine go super viral.
And I got to fight everybody on the internet about the Kennedy assassination.
And it was super fun.
Cause I live for that shit.
God had so many people.
I had so many people getting mad at me and calling me a CIA shill.
It was great.
Uh, the producer of who killed JFK came at me again.
And, um, he also got super defensive when I tried to like pin him down on the Reiner theory of the Kennedy assassination.
At which point at one point he was like, look, we just took an educated guess about what happened.
And I'm like, I don't think Rob said it was an educated guess.
Rob was pretty darn confident that Chucky, the typewriter killed the president.
So, I mean, like.
I think you've gotten into his head and made him realize that he did make a stupid podcast.
And it.
I, I, that's the thing is that he won't defend the podcast.
He, he defends like conspiracy talking points about the Kennedy assassination.
Like he loves arguing about how the wound in JFK's back was too low to exit his throat.
And therefore it had to be two different shots and blah, blah, blah.
And all this stuff.
But then when I'm like, when I say to him, when I say, well, so do you agree with Rob about like Chucky the.
the typewriter and four shooters and all that kind of stuff and he's like i don't want to get into all that and i'm like why don't you your your your avatar is literally the thumbnail of the podcast you produced with rheiner and soledad and that's the conclusion of the podcast right and that was the payoff of the podcast was that chucky the typewriter and his three friends whacked the president so why can't you bet why can't you state that that's your theory why do you have to Like,
why are you putting distance between yourself and Rob?
What is this about?
And yeah, so it's just super funny that, like, that all happened.
And to everybody who was fighting with me, you've more than motivated me to continue writing my book about Oswald doing it.
So I appreciate you.
You're the fuel there.
Very, very helpful.
But yeah, so all of that was good times.
Any final thoughts on all of this before we put a bow on this week's bleak, disjointed, and angry episode with hopefully better audio?
Yes, my final thought is that Archie and South Park were right about Rob Reiner.
Damn, I don't remember that episode.
It's the anti-smoking one, and Rob Reiner is like, well, what do you mean you need smoking to relax?
When I need to relax, I just go to my house in the Riviera.
Why don't you just do that?
I have something kind of cool to end like fun to end it on.
And it'll be already over by the time this airs publicly, so fine by me.
But tomorrow for 4th of July, I am co-hosting a public art event that will be destroying some of the right-wing shit that I've collected over the last five years, going to too many right-wing events.
And so I thought that would, that would be kind of cathartic for people.
So we'll see how it goes.
I'll report back next week.
Wonder Bar.
Yeah, I'll post this after July 4th.
I'll probably post it on the weekend.
So yes, so thank you all for listening to the pod.
And I hope that our audio issues were mitigated this week.
I know that Stephanie was not attacking my eardrums the way that she had been for previous weeks.
So here's the hoping.
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