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| Hello everyone, Poker and Politics here. | |
| Today we're going to be talking about the big story, the only story that really exists at this very moment, and that is Marjorie Taylor Greene, the insane QAnon lady who is now the overwhelming favorite to become our first QAnon congressperson. | |
| She's running in the 14th District of Georgia. | |
| They just had the primary on Tuesday night. | |
| She finished in first place with over 40% of the vote. | |
| The man in second place, Cowan, got 18%. | |
| They will head to a runoff that she is expected to win. | |
| And then when she wins that, she will go up against a Democrat named Kevin Van Alstall in the general election in a blood red, psychotically pro-Trump district. | |
| Trump was plus 52 in this district in 2016. | |
| It's really interesting because now some light is being shown on Marjorie Taylor Greene. | |
| There's articles being written. | |
| I believe Ben Collins did one. | |
| The Washington Post did one. | |
| Her following of QAnon is now being exposed. | |
| And she is not just someone who knows about it on the level of, it's Donald Trump fighting corruption. | |
| not that. She was reading threads by Lisa May Crowley, one of the biggest QAnon | |
| crifters out there, and saying, man good work, great job. | |
| And there's plenty of evidence that she really believed in this stuff and there's | |
| all kinds of screen grabs that people have got of stuff from back in | |
| 2018 talking about school shootings and how the military might be able to use | |
| weaponry to make people hear voices in their head and go insane and start | |
| killing people. I mean she's a true blue dyed-in-the-wool QAnon nut. | |
| And it is terrifying to think that she's going to potentially buy and carpetbag her way into a seat in the U.S. | |
| House. | |
| And, I mean, it's really like just... | |
| Scary! | |
| It's just so bizarre that this is the world we live in where you can have a crackpot like this not be vetted by the party that she's running with. | |
| Jim Jordan and Matt Gaetz endorsed her. | |
| She received money from Republican PACs. | |
| She pumped a bunch of her own money into this thing as well, so I mean that really helped her out obviously. | |
| This is not like in 2018 when some neo-Nazi waited until the last possible second, saw that no more Republicans were running, and filed his paperwork to run as a Republican in a district. | |
| I think it was in Illinois. | |
| I'm not sure, but I'm pretty sure it was Illinois. | |
| And it made news for a while that a Nazi is going to be the Republican nominee in this district. | |
| It was an ocean blue district. | |
| He was never going to win. | |
| There was no possibility of him winning or any Republican winning. | |
| And that's why the Republicans didn't offer up a candidate. | |
| And so this neo-Nazi jumped in, embarrassed them by running under their banner, and then got crushed because that's what happens to Nazis in elected politics in America. | |
| And that was that. | |
| But this is not that. | |
| She was a part of this primary the whole time. | |
| She had to clear a field. | |
| She had to clear a large field of people who were basically the guy that finished in second. | |
| Cowan, he and her literally are running the exact same campaign. | |
| It is ridiculous how completely empty and devoid of substance these people are. | |
| They're literally just running this campaign where it's like, I love guns, I love Trump, and I hate liberals, and I hate Antifa, and socialism, and just The things that you Republican voters think are good, I think are good also. | |
| And the things that you think are bad, I also think are bad. | |
| And it's so boilerplate. | |
| It's so generic. | |
| There's nothing. | |
| There's no difference between these two people whatsoever. | |
| I mean, if the Republican Party actually either understood or acknowledged what QAnon was and how psychotically bizarre, weird, and screwed up that it is, They would have dropped green in a heartbeat and Cowan would have been the pick. | |
| And it wouldn't have made, like, on the substance of what they say publicly, it wouldn't have made a dime's worth of difference. | |
| But because the Republican Party, like, has no leadership and they really have no one at the wheel, no one's running this thing, no one's controlling anything, no one's doing any quality control or anything, You have things like Joe Ray Perkins winning the Oregon Senate seat nomination for the Republicans. | |
| You have Marjorie Taylor Greene now being the potential Congresswoman from the 14th District of Georgia as an outright QAnon supporter. | |
| And it's just Really, like, ridiculous that we're dealing with this stuff. | |
| That we have this kind of madness permeating our elections. | |
| Now it's one thing to be angry and upset about this. | |
| It's another thing to try to come up with a solution. | |
| And the thing about this is how do you deal with someone like Marjorie Taylor Greene in this district, in this situation? | |
| Because all politics is specific. | |
| Every race is its own separate entity. | |
| Everything is its own event. | |
| So what you do in one situation is not what you should do in another situation. | |
| You need to run the campaign that wins in this spot in this situation. | |
| And I hope that Kevin is able to find quality staff. | |
| He was talking about getting his first like staff hirings done on the QAnon live stream. | |
| It was awesome that he managed to get on there with those guys through a series of events. | |
| I managed to get in touch with Kevin and then I got in touch with the QAnon guys and we put two and two together and we got Kevin on the show. | |
| So that was really cool and so surreal and bizarre that like me, a slob on a microphone | |
| and a Twitter feed was able to contact someone running for Congress and then get them on | |
| a live stream with a group of people who could actually give this guy some exposure and an | |
| audience and begin the process of trying to get some attention to this race that like | |
| by all metrics would have been a foregone conclusion if Marjorie Taylor Greene wasn't | |
| who she was but now how do you beat her? | |
| That's the question. | |
| How do you win this race? | |
| How do you defeat a QAnon supporter? | |
| And the thing is, is that like now, let's say you were Rick Wilson in the Lincoln Project, and someone came up with an idea. | |
| Let's do an ad to attack Donald Trump by tying him to QAnon. | |
| Now, this is for the general public. | |
| And if I were to do like the Lincoln Project QAnon ad, it would be something about like Obama and Hillary murdering babies for Satan, Trump is this messianic figure and hero, and I would really bring up like the just absolutely like psychotically evil Madness of it all, the delusionality of it all, the fact that you have this monolithic bad versus this monolithic good and that Trump is literally an avatar of God being sent to earth to fight Yahweh's | |
| That would be the Lincoln Project ad that I would run in that situation. | |
| redeem humanity by killing Obama, Hillary, Comey, Romney, McCain, everyone. | |
| Just kill them all. Let God sort them out and God is basically Trump's best | |
| friend in this whole wide world. So I mean that would be the Lincoln Project | |
| ad that I would run in that situation. The problem is is that when you are in a | |
| Trump plus 52 district, no matter what kind of like things you add to | |
| the basic message of Trump good, Democrats bad, that's still the basic | |
| message that you're sending to those people. | |
| And they want to hear that message. | |
| So if you talk about Trump being this messianic figure that's going to save the world, and Hillary and Obama drink the blood of children that they sacrificed in the name of Moloch, if you do all of that, Now you might be able to skeeve out and freak out some people. | |
| You might be able to offend some people with the nature of this idea, this concept, the insanity of it all. | |
| But we gotta make up so much ground here that even if we were to, let's say we actually offended like 15% of Marjorie's voter base. | |
| And we revolted them so much that they actually became voters for Kevin. | |
| This is a 52 point district. | |
| That is somewhere along the lines of 76 to 24. | |
| I believe was the math I did back when I was calculating this in my head. | |
| So you add 15 points To 24. | |
| And we're still only at 39. | |
| We're still 11.1 points away from winning this election. | |
| Because we gotta get to 50.1 to win this thing. | |
| And I'm not proud. | |
| I'm hoping for 50.1. | |
| I'm hoping for 50.0001. | |
| I mean, we're just trying to get over the finish line any way we can. | |
| This is... I often talk about this because I'm a Patriots fan, but it's like the first Super Bowl the Patriots want to get to the Rams. | |
| As a Patriot fan, you knew the Rams were like this bull and they were going to buck the Patriots off. | |
| At some point, the Rams were going to wake up and beat our asses. | |
| And all we could do was just hope to God that they didn't wake up in time before the final gun sounded and we were able to steal the Super Bowl and get away with it. | |
| And that's how I view this election is just get us to 50.1% and get out of there with a win. | |
| Just escape in any way we can. | |
| But how do you do it? | |
| How do you turn that 24% into 50.1%? | |
| 54% into 50.1%. How do we get Kevin 26.01% more of the electorate to vote for him? | |
| And I don't think you can do it by talking about QAnon, like their actual horrifying | |
| worldview direct head on the malevolency of the murdering of the Guantanamo Bay, of the | |
| storm of the executing of the liberals and all that stuff and the adrenochrome. | |
| I think that again the details get lost. | |
| So the way you make this work and again This is me. | |
| I have a microphone. | |
| I could be totally wrong. | |
| One day Rick Wilson's really bored, hears I talked about him on a podcast, listens to this, throws his iced coffee across the room in a fit of rage, and DMs me and says, never put my name in your mouth again, kid. | |
| You have no idea what you're talking about. | |
| But the way I see this, the only way you can handle You have to mock QAnon's dumb, silly beliefs that don't have to do with the whole Trump killing all the liberals things. | |
| You have to attack their silliness. | |
| You have to attack the Just absolutely moronic things that they believe in and that they follow and that they are absolutely rock-solidly convinced of as being accurate and true. | |
| You have to make rejection of QAnon and the acknowledgement that QAnon is a stupid thing to believe in apolitical. | |
| You have to show the voters that people that believe in QAnon believe in really dumb stuff and as a result Marjorie Taylor Greene believes in this really dumb stuff and she would be an ineffective, useless legislator for you because she would be busy doing these, busy chasing these dumb ghosts. | |
| She'd be busy running around talking about really weird stuff It has nothing to do with what the good people of Georgia care about. | |
| So, you need to talk about how QAnon believes that JFK Jr. | |
| is alive. | |
| You need to talk about how QAnon believes that Donald Trump is talking to them through coded messages in his tweets when he misspells stuff. | |
| Like, kofifi and hamburgerlurders or however you say his misspelling of hamburger. | |
| You have to talk about how they thought Ruth Bader Ginsburg was dead. | |
| You have to talk about how they think all these different celebrities are going to go to jail. | |
| Apolitical, generally well-liked celebrities like Tom Hanks and Ellen. | |
| And, I mean, if you're feeling a little spicy and you think she polls, she market tests well, you could go with Madonna or Lady Gaga and Katy Perry. | |
| And This is the thing is you have to approach this from an angle where you | |
| We are laughing at Q and QAnon and this dumbness and we need the people of Georgia to understand that they need to elect somebody who doesn't believe in dumb weird things and Kevin can reassure them on guns and in common sense solutions on abortion and all that kind of stuff and he's not a crazy socialist and You can argue the whole thing about how she would be obviously a member of the minority in the house and have no real power and authority and she's already said she won't reach across party lines to help out whereas if you elect Kevin you get a seat at the table and he'll be there to rein in Nancy Pelosi and the crazy liberals going too far with this stuff because again that's what you say when you need to win a Trump plus 52 district but | |
| This is the importance of the framing of what we do with QAnon as it relates to Marjorie Taylor Greene, is that it's dumb. | |
| It's stupid. | |
| She is insane for believing in dumb, stupid stuff that is obviously cartoonish and farcical and moronic. | |
| The whole Project Looking Glass and time travel thing. | |
| uh all of this stuff like just looking around at all of these things and being able to just show that absurdity to people and The goal is to make QAnon uncool. | |
| That most of these people don't know what QAnon is, don't understand it, and you get to give them their first taste of it. | |
| You get to red pill them the way you want to red pill them. | |
| So you present QAnon in the most unflattering light possible. | |
| That it is this dumb, weird internet cult that has people message you on Facebook because you're unprofessional. | |
| During your podcasts. | |
| Much apologies. | |
| And you do this so that... QAnon's uncool, the person who follows it is uncool, and you don't want to be around them because that isn't cool. | |
| And that is how you can make this disqualifying to her. | |
| This is how you can damage her in a way that she becomes kind of like a pariah. | |
| And again, We saw this in Alabama with Roy Moore where there was no way Roy Moore was going to lose this Senate seat to a Democrat because it's Alabama. | |
| And you don't lose statewide elections if you're a Republican in Alabama. | |
| And then the credible accusations of him being a pedophile came out. | |
| And in an incredibly narrow, nail-bitingly intense battle, Roy Moore lost. | |
| We beat him. | |
| And I mean, it's, again, It's kind of hilarious that we're using QAnon as the same anchor as pedophilia and they're so obsessed with pedophiles. | |
| But this is what we have to do. | |
| We have to use this issue as a way to undermine the credibility of the candidate and hopefully do it in such a destructive way that they're toxic enough that a Democrat can actually get a majority of the votes and beat them. | |
| So I mean and I've I've told Kevin this as his unpaid strategist and I hope to | |
| God he gets, again the QAnon guys were talking about people volunteering to help work for him | |
| and run his campaign and do stuff for him, so I hope to God that in a week or two he is far | |
| too busy to ever have me darken his doors again on Facebook and ever accept my messages. So Godspeed | |
| all of that. But this is the if I were if Kevin said to me you're running the | |
| campaign what do we do? | |
| That's my answer and that's how I would do this. | |
| This is how I would attack the issue because we are David and we are fighting Goliath and we don't actually have God on our side in this situation. | |
| We are in a world of trouble. | |
| This is going to be the uphill climb to beat all uphill climbs. This is going to be incredible. | |
| This will be one of the greatest upsets in the history of politics, if we can pull it. | |
| Now that we have this community of people who care about this passionately and are dedicated to it, there's gonna be a lot of time and energy spent on this and I really just hope that we can find a way to do something. | |
| I hope that we find a way to push back against this ridiculous cult and this woman who believes in it. | |
| And again, as Travis Hume pointed out, she's been hiding it for about a year now. | |
| Once she talked to the people who obviously told her to run in the 14th District, who obviously gave her the heads up that this is how you win your seat, this is how you get on television, this is how you get to be on Fox News all the time and spout all these talking points and to write books about how you love America and all that kind of stuff and get on that right-wing grift. | |
| Like, just to find a way to thwart this woman who cherry-picked this seat and thought that just by tamping down the QAnon for one year, that's all she'd need to do, that hopefully we can just show the people of Georgia who she is, what she actually represents, who she's actually out for, which is herself exclusively, and that she believes in totally insane things that have no place in the public square. | |
| So, it's gonna be a real interesting few months now. | |
| I mean, I was all in on the presidential election, obviously. | |
| We have Q-Plus himself running for re-election, as it were. | |
| And now we have this race. | |
| We have our first actual honest-to-goodness threat. | |
| to have a full-blown conspiracy nut and I'm not just someone who went crazy while they were in office and had the power of incumbency and whatnot will you on their side this is a person running for office and We're going to have plenty of time. | |
| We're going to have about three months and change of shedding light on her and what she actually stands for and we're going to be able to give the people of Georgia an informed decision to make about her and if she should be the representative or not. | |
| They will hopefully not be flying blind as to what she actually believes in and who she is and what she stands for. | |
| So it's going to be a trip. | |
| It's going to be an absolute trip. | |
| This is so surreal. | |
| It is so strange that I'm talking about this in this situation. | |
| That I could have even a scintilla of impact on a congressional election in the United States of America is so bizarre. | |
| I mean, I really can't even wrap my head around So, I've yelled about that for 20-odd minutes, so let's go to the questions as it were. | |
| Nark says, does it really surprise you that it is possible that a QAnon is being elected, especially with the way gerrymandering makes certain districts all but red or blue, so you have a race to the crazy? | |
| Look at the Tea Party. | |
| My theory is most of them are now QAnon. | |
| They can't defend Trump from their Tea Party positions, so they have to deny their own eyes, and QAnon let them defend Trump. | |
| Your thoughts on my theory? | |
| And do you have your own theory besides these people are just knocking futs? | |
| I don't know that these people are actually QAnon. | |
| I mean, you could be QAnon in the sense that you could know the platitudes. | |
| You can be QAnon in a way where you talk about draining the swamp and solidarity. | |
| Where we go one, we go all. | |
| Like, knowing the catchphrases of QAnon to me is, in a way, it's bad because it's virtue signaling for a terrible group of people. | |
| A death cult, actually. | |
| But that isn't nearly as bad as what Marjorie Taylor Greene was doing where she was actually talking about QAnon being a patriot and he's real and the stuff that he has said in the past has come true! | |
| I mean, that's... there's a difference. | |
| There's a real difference between just trolling easily conned rubes into voting for you and believing in you And actually mainlining this stuff yourself. | |
| In a lot of ways, you're right about the gerrymandering. | |
| The gerrymandering does lead to these safe districts where you have to do this stuff. | |
| And again, if you look at Coane and you look at her, they're running these like same like psychotically hard right, far right, lunatic campaigns. | |
| But if Anyone in the Republican Party had any sense of what was going on whatsoever, and if Cohen himself had done any research, and I honestly feel like Cohen's actually kind of like, in a way, paralyzed by QAnon. | |
| I don't think that Cohen understands how dumb, weird, and off that it is that he doesn't seem to have an understanding that this is something he needs to attack. | |
| This is how he beats her because if she loses this runoff, which I don't think she will given the nature of the results from the first run where she doubled him up. | |
| I mean, I don't see him making up that ground. | |
| Maybe the other candidates endorse him, but I doubt it. | |
| I mean, it just doesn't... he's got such a heavy lift to do and also it just feels like from what I've seen in these past couple days, He has no interest to go at her about QAnon because I think that he's afraid that it won't work. | |
| That attacking your fellow Republican about their support of QAnon is ineffective. | |
| And again, I think if you're attacking them from the macro of the satanic, saving America from the evil Moloch worshipers, I think he's right. | |
| But I think that if he actually had the knowledge and information about the silly shit that they believe in, that he could make an effective attack on her and he could do something to potentially give himself a chance to win this runoff. | |
| But again, it just seems like all Republicans are just so bad at their jobs. | |
| And no one's running anything. | |
| I mean, if anyone had done any research about this woman, they would have been able to dig this stuff up. | |
| She didn't hide it. | |
| It was all out there. | |
| The screen grabs, you can still pull them from her Facebook page from 2018 where she's talking about all this stuff. | |
| So, I mean... | |
| It just feels like they don't have a handle on what Q is and what it stands for and how ridiculous it is. | |
| So they've allowed it to fester and grow in their party and now they're gonna pay the piper because really, honestly, like Jim Jordan needs to be asked about this because he endorsed her. | |
| Matt Gaetz needs to be asked about this because he endorsed her. | |
| These people need to start being called to attention about this stuff. | |
| The QAnon guys said it very well and it's absolutely true. | |
| This is so much like birtherism back in the day where cranks and lunatics would scream about Obama being born in Kenya and you would interview a Republican elected official about it and they would just sort of be... and they'd get flop sweat. | |
| They'd just be like, well I don't know about all that. | |
| I don't have any idea. | |
| And they couldn't come out and just flat out condemn it. | |
| They just wouldn't say, no, he was born in America. | |
| That's nonsense. | |
| They wouldn't do it because they were scared that if they did say that, that some lunatic from the far right would come out and challenge him in the primary and be like, I ain't scared of no Kenyan. | |
| Unlike some other people who kowtow to the mainstream line liberal media that said the president was born in Hawaii when that's a bunch of bullshit and we all know it. | |
| And that's the thing is that when you Just fill your voters' heads with bullshit for year after year after year and make it so that they no longer can separate fact from fiction. | |
| You create a voter that can be gamed. | |
| And that's literally what Trump did to them. | |
| These people had been fed bullshit for all this time about everything and Trump just came out and said, I'm going to build a wall and Mexico's going to pay for it. | |
| And nobody could call him out in the Republican primaries. | |
| Nobody could say, no, you're not going to build a wall and make Mexico pay for it. | |
| That's bullshit. | |
| There's no fucking way you can do that. | |
| Shut up. | |
| You're an idiot. | |
| You're a clown. | |
| And then he would just be like, the wall got 10 feet higher! | |
| And all the crowd would cheer and celebrate and laugh. | |
| Because they wanted a wall! | |
| They wanted it to be 10 feet higher! | |
| And Trump was going to give them their wall! | |
| And you couldn't reason with them! | |
| You couldn't run to the right of the wall! | |
| And to run to the left of the wall was to make yourself a commie, pinko, liberal, anarchist, anti-FinalSupers agent! | |
| So, I mean, literally Trump sold them a fantasy and nobody else in the Republican primary was able to say, no, he's bullshitting you. | |
| Don't fucking listen to him. | |
| He's a liar. | |
| Because to say that would hurt your own standing. | |
| So they literally all just stood around and waited for Trump to say the thing that was going to be so disqualifyingly offensive that he would implode and lose his support. | |
| But he could never lose his support because his supporters wanted him to say terrible things. | |
| And now we've got President lying moron. | |
| So great. | |
| Wonderful. | |
| Outstanding. | |
| Up next is Lapsa, who says, Aren't there already members of Congress that have openly embraced a conspiracy, even white nationalism? | |
| I don't... I mean, white nationalism is kind of a thing. | |
| Steve King is on his way out. | |
| He was pretty racist. | |
| I mean, there's plenty of, like, just dirtbag racists in Congress, but I don't know of any seated congressional officials that have actually gone full-blown QAnon. | |
| Again, it's possible that someone could do this because you can find a really safe seat and just go all red-pilled and stuff, but it hasn't been done yet. | |
| I mean, it's coming. | |
| It's very much coming. | |
| I mean, people are towing the line. | |
| Our president is literally pro-QAnon. | |
| But because QAnon is so stupid and so weird and so small a thing, our media just won't address it. | |
| Our media will not say, hey president, why do you keep retweeting and signal boosting this psychotic death cult? | |
| It would be really nice if they would do that. | |
| I mean, they want him to do it because they think he'll validate them. | |
| I want him to do it because he will not and it'll be really fun. | |
| Alex and Dejas says, when do you think there will be an openly anti-alt-right, anti-conspiracy candidate? | |
| I don't know how to word it, but basically a candidate that is the polar opposite of these nutjobs running for public office. | |
| Well, right now, that's Kevin. | |
| Honestly, I think that's Kevin's only path to victory in this race, is to literally run as the sanity candidate. | |
| I told him. | |
| Lord, and again, my opinion is worth nothing. | |
| But I told him, like, if you said to come up with a campaign slogan right now, this very second, I would say, Common Sense, Not QAnon. | |
| That would be my campaign ad for, that would be my slogan for Kevin. | |
| That would be my bumper sticker. | |
| Just, like, reality. | |
| We're gonna deal with reality here, and not this crazy person. | |
| And this is all you can run on in this spot, because this is a really pro-Trump district, and they're going to pick the pro-Trump person And I mean really the Republican Party would look at this situation if it if she got so toxic if she just was so bad that she wins the she wins the runoff and then more stories and more articles come out and it just gets worse and she's getting buried in this deluge the Republican Party doesn't really need her or care because in their minds and they're probably right about this that | |
| can let her lose and then in two years they will run a regular Republican | |
| against Kevin and he'd be in a ton of trouble because again plus 52 Trump | |
| district he would have to really do an incredible bang-up job over those two | |
| years to keep the seat and they would figure that he couldn't do that and they | |
| would get rid of him in two years and by the same token if she wins and she's | |
| toxic they'll just primary her in two years and they'll fund that guy to beat | |
| her and then it'll be that so I think that in situations like this | |
| You literally have to just run on the fact that I'm a decent person and the other person is a really bad person. | |
| And we're just literally making this selection all about character. | |
| Again, it's Doug Jones versus Roy Moore. | |
| Did you hear anything about any issues in that campaign at all whatsoever? | |
| No, it was just Doug Jones is the other guy and Roy Moore is a pedophile and that's it. | |
| That's all we had. | |
| And again, not a pedophile with a D next to your name. | |
| Barely good enough to win! | |
| Barely! | |
| By the skin of our teeth we got that W. And now Doug Jones is in a world of trouble. | |
| He's probably going to lose to Tommy Tuberville or Jeff Sessions in probably Tuberville. | |
| But this is what happens when you win in a blood-red district against a flawed candidate. | |
| Eventually they find a good candidate and now you're in trouble because the natural tilt of the environment is designed to benefit them against you. | |
| That's life. | |
| Patchouli Wahular ni Alia Fairbrook. | |
| I love her avatar. | |
| I love the aqua hair. | |
| That is such an awesome avatar. | |
| Oh, that's not a question. | |
| She's just stating the fact that they can't hide their stupidity anymore with this kind of exposure. | |
| So yeah, I mean, it's really that kind of a question. | |
| because she's not going to stick around. | |
| I think if Taylor Green did win, that her stay in Congress would be brief. | |
| And if it's not, then the Republican Party is even more destroyed and damaged than I ever imagined it could | |
| possibly be. | |
| I mean, then they need to be just rooted out, and she needs to be an albatross hung around the neck of the Republican | |
| Party for as long as she's an active member of it, because that's | |
| how this needs to work. | |
| Support of QAnon and the support of the QAnon candidate who's now the QAnon Congresswoman | |
| needs to be a bad thing for as long as... she needs to be the gift that keeps on giving. | |
| Like, if she loses here, that's good because Kevin is a good man and he would be a far better representative than she is. | |
| And stopping these people from winning is what we need to do. | |
| But if she won, then they need to be punished for her winning. | |
| and they need to be continue to be punished until they take the steps to | |
| correct this and get rid of her themselves. | |
| Troy Francis says if someone asked Trump the question in the | |
| categorically denied queue would that be the end of the movement or would they | |
| rationalize it somehow? | |
| I think someone else also asked me this question on this thread, but this is the one I saw first. | |
| They would rationalize it. | |
| They'd love to talk about how they would not rationalize it. | |
| They'd love to say, if Trump denied queuing on, it would be over immediately. | |
| We would just pack up our tent and go home. | |
| It would be over. | |
| We'd be done with this whole thing. | |
| This is what matters is the truth and Donald Trump was going to tell us the truth one way or the other and by God we're ready to accept it. | |
| Because Q is actually posting now, posting stupidly and ineptly, but still posting, if Trump did QAnon is fake and he denounces it openly. | |
| Q would be on Twitter, he'd be on 8kun immediately posting disinformation is necessary Q+. | |
| He would 100% claim to be Trump grabbing his phone and firing off a quick missive on 8kun, letting everybody know, still believe in you, I'm Q+. | |
| We're bros. | |
| Add the live to the media. | |
| The whole question thing. | |
| Yeah, Q got a little over his skis on it. | |
| But yeah, don't worry. | |
| POTUS taking care of this. | |
| POTUS got your back. | |
| Trust the plan. | |
| Bam. | |
| So yeah, that's what would happen. | |
| And they would immediately fall back on it. | |
| Because again, they're all about this dumb LARPing fantasy. | |
| They don't want the LARP to end, so they would never let it end. | |
| If they could prevent it. | |
| She's going to have to make an I'm Not A Witch video. | |
| Yes, I actually brought that up when I was talking to someone about this whole thing and how ridiculous it is that like literally this is what we have to do. | |
| We have to Christine O'Donnell her where she has to like explain her insanity and try to like smooth it over. | |
| MA Egbert says perhaps sane voters can start lobbying for some kind of mental fitness test for all candidates after four years of Trump. | |
| This type of legislation could have broad appeal. | |
| What's funny is my mom actually told me this like two years in the Trump administration that we need to start having a mental health test. | |
| done on candidates before we let them run for office as it were. | |
| My problem with that is that who is in charge of that body? | |
| Who is in charge of assigning the people to do the mental health exam? | |
| Because Like, if you open it up and you have this open, honest, fair, just literally medical doctors that are going to do nothing but check the psychological and neurological profile of these people to make sure that they're rational and sane people, that'd be nice. | |
| But as soon as people get to the levers of power and they can control who's on that committee, Now we're down a slippery slope because now let's say whenever Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez wants to run for president, when she's legally allowed to do so, when she crosses the age threshold of 35 years, | |
| And she goes before that board and they say, no, you're insane. | |
| You're a socialist. | |
| What you believe in would destroy America. | |
| You're obviously unfit to be president. | |
| As a matter of fact, you're unfit to be a congresswoman. | |
| So we're going to deny you the right to run for re-election now because you are insane. | |
| And that's the thing, is that once you create gatekeepers to the ability to be a candidate for office, You create a massive incentive for corruption so that those gatekeepers can keep your enemies out in a non-elected way. | |
| We don't even have to run the race anymore. | |
| Now our enemies don't even get on the ballot because they're insane! | |
| They're mentally unfit for office. | |
| So as wonderful as an idea as that would be, the corruption The gruesomely undemocratic nature of what it could entail is something that I am a hard no on. | |
| We have to allow people to run for office and we have to allow the public to be allowed to vote for them. | |
| I don't believe in like any kind of like people like about oh we need to have like IQ tests for voters no no no no no no because again the moment you start doing that the moment you start jerking around who gets to vote and who doesn't get to vote and who gets to run for office and who doesn't get to run for office That right there is the death of democracy. | |
| That right there is just how you take a well-intended idea and just destroy the Republic with it. | |
| So, yes, you do have to deal with the bad results when morons vote for evil people and | |
| those evil people win, but again, Trump only got in because of the Electoral College. | |
| The American people rejected him. | |
| They said no. | |
| By three million votes, we say no to Donald Trump. | |
| And then Jimmy Madison crawled out of his grave and said, no, Trump has to be your president | |
| because we were pandering to slave states back in the day. | |
| And it's like, really, Jimmy Madison? | |
| You fucking prick. | |
| God damn it. | |
| I actually had some clown QAnon supporter tell me, if you run trying to win the popular | |
| vote, you can never win an election. | |
| And it's like, well, everyone except for Trump and Pappy Bush in the last fucking forever won the popular vote and thus won the election. | |
| And yes, there are these massive gulfs between popular vote wins and electoral college wins, but that's the shitty nature of the system. | |
| I mean, just a quick little stem winder here to wrap the show up. | |
| The Electoral College was created because the Founding Fathers feared true democracy. | |
| They feared what people who were talking about the IQ test were fearing. | |
| They feared just having the unwashed rabble vote for their leaders directly. | |
| When America was first founded the only thing that people voted for directly was members of the House of Representatives. | |
| The Senate was elected by the local government and the presidency was elected by the Electoral College. | |
| Now you could vote for the electors and stuff like that but it was still indirect and not all states had strict vote public voting for who the electors would be. | |
| So it was this weird system where we didn't actually have like really representative democracy | |
| in a lot of ways. | |
| And then as time moved on, we got more and more democratic with these things. | |
| And that's what we amended the Constitution to have the senators be directly elected, | |
| same as house reps and so on and so forth. | |
| And now we obviously have elections in every state for who will be our electors be in the | |
| Electoral College to pick the president because that's the system we have. | |
| But the Electoral College was put in place, A, out of a fear of direct democracy, and B, because the slave states were very much terrified of the idea of not having a seat at the table president because they knew if we had a straight popular | |
| vote based on population, the North far outweighed the South, and the South would be incapable | |
| of getting its people into the presidency. | |
| And that was also why the Three-Fifths Compromise was created to artificially inflate the voting | |
| power of the South in the Electoral College. | |
| In 1800, John Adams would have beaten Thomas Jefferson if not for the Three-Fifths Compromise | |
| inflating the power of the South's Electoral College votes. | |
| And so you have this really archaic, really useless system of electing people that we | |
| have in America right now, and it was literally put in place to placate slave states, and | |
| it only worked for 80 years because, sure as shit, Abe Lincoln ran in 1860. | |
| And the slave states would not vote for him. | |
| He wasn't even on the ballot and it didn't matter. | |
| He got plenty of electoral votes in the North and won easily. | |
| And that's when the slave states said, well this is what we thought was going to happen the whole goddamn time. | |
| And now this prick's gonna take our slaves away from us. | |
| We're outta here. | |
| Get fucked, you assholes. | |
| And then Lincoln said, no, you're not allowed to leave. | |
| And then the South said, well, yeah, well, make us stay. | |
| And Lincoln said, okay, I'll murder the shit out of you, and then I'll take your fucking slaves away from you while I'm at it. | |
| And that's what he did. | |
| And God bless him for doing so. | |
| So good job, Abe. | |
| Way to murder a bunch of traitors and take their slaves from them. | |
| As they deserved. | |
| But... | |
| Because of all that, we have this, and we just never fixed it, because that's just the way America is. | |
| We never, uh, the Electoral College was a ticking time bomb ever since 1860, and we never sought to address it. | |
| Like, JFK barely beat Nixon. | |
| The popular vote win was incredibly minuscule, but his Electoral College win was massive. | |
| Nixon barely beat Humphrey in 68, but again the Electoral College was massive. | |
| Trump lost the popular vote massively in 2016, and he got the most electoral votes since Pappy Bush. | |
| Both of W. Bush's electoral college victories were far slimmer than Trump's, and W. won the popular vote by 2 million against Kerry in 2004. | |
| So, again, we just have this really dumb, clunky, bad system. | |
| For the moment, we're stuck with it. | |
| And it sucks. | |
| But that's life. | |
| So here's to hoping that this time around that we will actually have the Democrat receive more vote points in the score zones that Jimmy Madison designed all those many many years ago and we will end this national nightmare that is the Trump Imperium and QAnon will shit bricks when the God Emperor is defeated because That's the one thing they can't rationalize. | |
| It's the one thing they're not going to be able to square away. | |
| Oh, he lost! | |
| I guess we trusted the plan for nothing, didn't we guys? | |
| Tough break. | |
| So, that is the show. | |
| Follow Kevin Van Ostal on Twitter. | |
| It's literally his name. | |
| He just got his blue checkmark today. | |
| That made me very happy. | |
| Kick him some money. | |
| Do whatever you can. | |
| Let's get in the trenches. | |
| Let's get ready for this ridiculous war against a terrible person and try to defeat them. |