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| Hello everyone, Poker and Politics here. | |
| Today we're going to talk about QAnon stupidity and a couple movies that I think are very relevant to the moment and that would be All The Way and Lincoln. | |
| Let's do the QAnon stupidity first because it's always there. | |
| Our esteemed President, the God Emperor himself. | |
| tweeted out that the old guy that got thrown to the ground by the cops in Buffalo was an Antifa super soldier or a provocateur or some other nonsense and this apparently was a message parodied by OAN and was also something that QAnon had been promoting and QAnon had gone so far as to state That the head injury the man suffered was fate. | |
| That the man actually had like a blood packet or something in the back of his head and they explained through a handy meme that showed like the tubes and pressure systems and whatnot will you how this guy was able to make the blood pour out of his ear because These people are allergic to the truth in the most aggressive way possible. | |
| They live only to come up with ways to confirm their bias no matter how ridiculously insensitive, insane, hurtful, stupid, myopic, and impossible as they are. | |
| They're just going to do it. | |
| A guy gets thrown to the ground by cops? | |
| QAnon is pro-cop. | |
| QAnon is anti-protester. | |
| They're going to find a way to make the cop the good guy. | |
| They're going to find a way to make the protester the bad guy. | |
| This is their agenda. | |
| This is their stupidity. | |
| This is the just overall terrible nature of this psychotic death cult. | |
| And So we had that going on, and on top of that we have all the continuing George Floyd conspiracy theories. | |
| I saw today, um, Major Dad was wondering who paid for the funeral. | |
| The answer is Floyd Mayweather, you moron. | |
| That was public information. | |
| It was out there. | |
| I saw memes about how the casket was too small to hold Floyd's body and therefore it had to be empty and he wasn't really dead. | |
| When if you go on YouTube you can literally watch a four hour procession of people viewing the body in an open casket viewing as it were. | |
| Now we can't see the body from the angle of the camera shot but we can watch the just streams of people pouring into the into the uh church or wherever it was where the viewing was being held but you can watch these Solemn congregation of people coming to view the body of this man who was killed by a cop for no good reason. | |
| And you would think that having this be open to the public event, that if any QAnon people had any suspicions, they could have attended, they could have done a walkthrough, they could have seen the body for themselves if they wanted to or not. | |
| But they don't care. | |
| They already know what the truth is and they are not going to let facts and evidence get in the way of that. | |
| This is the point of a cult. | |
| You are closed-minded. | |
| You are shut off from evidence. | |
| You refuse to acknowledge things that might make you see things in a different light. | |
| Everything is about getting to the predetermined answer that you already have in your head. | |
| You work backwards to the truth. | |
| It is, in many ways, the difference between creationism and evolution. | |
| With evolution, we just sort of see how things moved along, how the process worked, and we map it out. | |
| And if there were mistakes, if there were errors, then you just Move along. | |
| You work through that. | |
| You see, oh, I screwed up there. | |
| That's not a problem. | |
| Okay, this makes more sense and so on and so forth. | |
| This is why it is a scientific theory. | |
| This is why people research it and analyze it and study it. | |
| And if you could disprove evolution, you would be honestly achieving a scientific breakthrough. | |
| It would be Miraculous! | |
| It would be incredible to have someone bring bona fide information and evidence forward that would show how this was wrong. | |
| That's what science is all about is going where the evidence takes you and whatever the conclusion may be is. | |
| Whereas creationism is literally God made humans, period, point blank, and all data, all evidence, anything you have works backwards into confirming your original belief. | |
| And that's QAnon in a nutshell, is that everything works towards Confirming the original hypothesis that Donald Trump is infallible. | |
| Q is infallible. | |
| They are the good guys. | |
| Everybody else is the bad guys. | |
| That's it. | |
| That's all there is to it. | |
| It's tissue thin. | |
| It's so weak. | |
| Also, we had a little hilariousness today that one of the Q aggregator sites is not aggregating correctly because I saw people quoting Q on Twitter and usually when I see that kind of thing happening it means that there are new drops and QAnon.Pub was not seeing them. | |
| QAnon.Map was. | |
| That was funny. | |
| I actually checked both and then I found that out and then Dapper Gander pointed out that Map was posting it and Anon was not. | |
| And as Dapper Gander has pointed out, QMap.Pub editorializes the QDrops. | |
| And there are QAnons that are angry about that. | |
| They find that putting added words on top of what was already said is kind of, in a way, blasphemous. | |
| That leaving the drops in their proper state is pure, is honest. | |
| And QDrop4441 Three fours and a one stated that Q says the wait will soon be over and he's quoting one he's did a | |
| I grabbed a tweet of one of the big QAnon pushers that I don't really cover that much, The Dirty Truth, and it's Barr just babbling about Russiagate and the Russian probe and all that nonsense. | |
| The standard toothless promises to do anything. | |
| And this is the thing, as I've said this before on the podcast, is that going after rich and powerful people with flimsy evidence is tough in America because the rich and powerful are able to flex their constitutional rights in a way that us plebs really aren't. | |
| I've been seeing all these people screaming and yelling about how Hillary Clinton's going to be deposed about the emails by Judicial Watch and blah blah blah. | |
| And why would she agree to this? | |
| And if they did depose her, she could just take the fifth on every question. | |
| Just be put under oath and then everything the guy says, I assert my Fifth Amendment right. | |
| Another question, Fifth Amendment right. | |
| Just do the Chappelle Show to them. | |
| And that's it. | |
| That's what happens when you are capable of actually affording lawyers and a high-powered legal team and whatnot will you and they can analyze things and give you the best possible advice and they can fight the deposition for you and so on and so forth. | |
| This is nothing and it will never be anything because they know they have no evidence to actually go after any of these people with. | |
| And if they did try to go after them, discovery would be a nightmare. | |
| And on top against people that are going to use the legal system's ins and outs to the fullest of their abilities to crush this, to stop anything from happening, to prevent convictions or any other illicit prosecutions of people. | |
| So Q is once again promising things he'll never be able to deliver on, but what's new? | |
| That's the whole life of Q existence. It is telling them two and a half years into QAnon | |
| that the wait will be over soon. | |
| I mean it's pathetic beyond measure. So that's pretty much QAnon stupidity as it were for the day. | |
| I'm sure it will never end. | |
| Oh right, I completely forgot, but we're perilously close to our first QAnon congressperson as the Georgia 14th District primary race. | |
| Georgia 14th District primary race. The QAnon candidate is looking really strong. | |
| Marjorie Greene, who has a third name that is not showing up on the New York Times right now, she is well out in front. | |
| Marjorie Taylor Greene, she is well out in front. | |
| She will not avoid a runoff it seems. | |
| She got 40% of the vote. | |
| A guy named John Cowan Or Cohen he got 18% of the vote and he will be in the runoff with her for this for the nomination and This is a blood-red district a friend of mine pointed out that it is a the Trump won this district by 53% So one could go so far as to say that this is a safe Republican district But | |
| It will be very interesting to see if Cowan, if Cohen, Cowan, I'm sorry, it's five letters and I still can't say it right, but it'll be interesting to see if there is intra-Republican squabbling here because QAnon is toxic and bad nationally, and while Green would most likely win under any circumstances in this district, Having an actual elected official in the House of Representatives that believes in QAnon is a bad look. | |
| So Jim Jordan and Matt Gaetz endorsed Greene. | |
| She poured a lot of her own money into this thing. | |
| She fundraised heavily. | |
| She did a commercial where she brandished an assault rifle and said she was going to keep Antifa away from Georgia? | |
| So, I mean, we'll see. | |
| We'll see exactly what happens with this whole situation. | |
| It's going to be a ton of fun potentially having someone on the ballot in November as the overwhelming favorite to win election and being a full-throated QAnon supporter, which is terrifying. | |
| We have that going for us. | |
| And now I believe that we have officially crossed the Rubicon of QAnon stupidity. | |
| So we can get to movies, which are so very important to us nowadays in our burned out hell world. | |
| The thing is that whenever you see a movie about civil rights, it is, and it's historically accurate, it shows you just how brutally awful the struggle is to get anything done ever. | |
| In the movie Lincoln, it just chronicles the last few months of Lincoln's life and the last few months of the Civil War, during which Lincoln tries to railroad through the 13th Amendment out of the U.S. | |
| House to get it on the process of being ratified by the states to abolish slavery. | |
| Now this movie is mostly just about political horse trading, arm twisting, finding the means by which to get the votes in order to pass the amendment. | |
| Lincoln himself wants it done quickly because he's afraid that if the Civil War ends and slavery has not been abolished, that the political will to abolish slavery will be weakened. | |
| Radical Republicans, at the time of this, at the time that this story is set in, the Republican Party is two factions, the conservative Republicans and the radical Republicans. | |
| And the Radical Republicans are worried that Lincoln is doing this only as a head fake. | |
| That he's putting out the amendment to try to force the South to surrender quickly so that they can rejoin the Union to block the amendment and keep slavery as a thing in America. | |
| Whereas the conservative Republicans are in favor of the anti-slavery amendment, but they want a peace negotiation with the South to be held to prevent the fighting from continuing that spring. | |
| So Lincoln's got to navigate those two sides, but the radicals mostly fall in line when they realize that Lincoln's efforts to abolish slavery are actually sincere, that this is not a head fake, and that getting this done now is what matters. | |
| What's really funny is that back then they had like almost a year-long lame duck for Congress. | |
| They talk about how in December the Republicans will have an overwhelming majority in the House of Representatives, and one of the radicals who's not in favor of supporting the amendment at this moment says that the amendment will be the easy work of ten minutes, that they'll just propose it, call a vote, and pass it in December. | |
| But Thaddeus Stevens, who's the leader of the Radical Republicans, decides let's go for it now. | |
| Let's put in some work and see if we can achieve this moment. | |
| And the rest of the movie is offering patronage jobs to Democrats who've lost and are going to be out of office at the end of the year, and other arm-twisting and means by which to secure votes. | |
| And at the very end they actually get two Democrats to abstain, just don't show up for the vote. | |
| And after every arm twist and hair pull and bribe and hookup you can imagine, they jam the anti-slavery amendment through the house and they pass it and then this amendment is on its way to the states and slavery is constitutionally abolished from America. | |
| And this is a good thing. | |
| But it goes to show that the bill failed in the House a few times before this, that people were blocking passage of this, and we had all kinds of just ugliness over this issue, which had torn the country apart for decades. | |
| Pretty much right after Andrew Jackson was no longer president. I think Van Buren was the last guy | |
| to really skate by without having slavery be a huge amount of problems on his plate, but after that | |
| you just had all these Whig presidents coming in and dying and giving us Whig vice presidents who | |
| were ineffective and weak, and then the Democrats would get in and they would be | |
| ineffective, and it just it was just this endless whipsawing of ineffective, useless, one-term | |
| presidents who couldn't handle the issue of slavery until you got to Lincoln who handled the issue | |
| of slavery by being stuck in a civil war and then forcing at gunpoint the South to give up its | |
| slaves. | |
| And maybe one of these days I'll do like a six hour long podcast about how the Civil War was about slavery. | |
| That was a running joke that I've had with one of my friends for the longest time because another guy that we know was a lost cause confederacy apologist who would always argue about states rights and I'd just be like shut up just shut up and stop it stop it right now you're lying and I hate you so don't do it but That was the arduous process of actually getting that amendment passed and it took a Herculean effort to legally abolish slavery and we only got to that point because we had a fucking war over it where we had to murder so many people | |
| That they gave up fighting us and then begrudgingly gave up their slaves. | |
| And then Reconstruction happened and for the first four years it was ineffective because you had a Democrat who was a sympathizer to the Southern cause in power. | |
| And then Grant came in for eight years and did his best he could. | |
| And when he left office, then we had the corrupt bargain where the Republicans got the presidency and the Democrats got the right to going back to oppressing black people. | |
| And that bullshit, which became Jim Crow, lasted for about 100 years until the passage of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, | |
| which is what All the Way is about. | |
| And there were two LBJ movies made around this time. | |
| All the way has Bryan Cranston who played LBJ in the theater production and that was then made into a movie. | |
| The other one was LBJ which is an actual just full high production value movie about Lyndon Johnson with Rob Reiner directing it and Woody Harrelson starring and I think like 10 people saw it ever. | |
| I mean it is a very unknown film but I liked both of them. | |
| I liked all the way better because it focused more on this. | |
| And now this shows how Johnson was being pressured by everyone on all sides all the time. | |
| He has Hubert Humphrey and the liberal wing of the Democratic Party pushing him to pass the Civil Rights Bill. | |
| He has the Southern Democrats who are filibustering him and blocking him and fighting him on every front to not let the bill go through. | |
| He has Martin Luther King and the Civil Rights Movement that are pressuring him from the outside. | |
| to do stuff and the thing about that is that they don't ever let up on him because the fight never ends which is like a really important thing to understand and acknowledge about this kind of stuff is that when you win a victory You've achieved something but you have not achieved everything because you can never achieve everything. | |
| There's always something more to be done. | |
| There's always something else that needs to be fixed. | |
| There's always something else that has to happen. | |
| Johnson takes voting rights out of the Civil Rights Bill because he doesn't think he could possibly pass it with some voting rights. | |
| He also, it's made more overt in LBJ, but it's also mentioned in all the way that Johnson is politicizing the murder of Kennedy to try to get this through. | |
| In his first address to the Joint Session of Congress after the assassination of President Kennedy, after Johnson ascends to the presidency, he declares that Passing the Civil Rights Bill is the most fitting tribute we can give President Kennedy. | |
| He is aggressively politicizing this event. | |
| He's like, look, Kennedy got murdered and that sucked. | |
| Now let's honor him by passing the Civil Rights Bill. | |
| It'd be the right thing to do. | |
| So whenever you hear anyone after a mass shooting whining about politicizing deaths and how this is untoward and unacceptable and you shouldn't be doing this, Fuck off. | |
| It's all horseshit. | |
| They just don't want people using the power of death and the power of martyrdom as a weapon against them. | |
| And Johnson had made no bones about it. | |
| He was just like, look, I'm going to get this bill done. | |
| I'm going to get it passed. | |
| And I'm going to do it by any means necessary because it's the right thing to do and it has to get done. | |
| And in the House, you had Judge Smith who was in charge of the Rules Committee and I had to use a dispensation petition to get or discharge petition to get the bill out of the Rules Committee and onto the floor of the house for a vote. | |
| So they had to use procedural tricks to pry the bill free to get it to the floor in order for it then to be passed. | |
| And now the the racists, the Southern Democrats, who again have positioned themselves in these seats of power, So they can oversee civil rights bills and kill them before they ever make it to the floor of the House or the Senate. | |
| Now it's in Eastland, is the name of the Democrat, Eastland's committee, and in All the Way they talk about how, oh yeah, we're just gonna dig up another hole to bury this bill in because we're just not gonna let it happen. | |
| And what they actually did was the president of the Senate read the bill and you're supposed to read the bill twice and after you read it the second time you then assign it to the committee. | |
| So he reads the bill once and then he doesn't read it again and then he, I don't know, talks about the weather or whatever, will you? | |
| Sports in the 1960s, etc, etc. | |
| And then he reads the bill again a second time a few days later and then says, whoa! | |
| Would you look at that? | |
| This is the second reading of the bill and it was delayed a couple days for some odd reason. | |
| Who knows? | |
| But because we've never had this done before where you've delayed a second reading of a bill, I'm going to file away the new precedent that when you make the second reading delayed after the first that that means it goes directly to the whole floor of the U.S. | |
| Senate version. | |
| Let's do this! | |
| And the South threw a fit at this procedural flimflammery. | |
| And the next thing you know... | |
| They're filibustering. | |
| And then Johnson and the Democrats have to go to the Republicans to get enough votes to break the filibuster. | |
| And then they break the filibuster and the bill gets passed. | |
| And we've achieved something. | |
| I mean, to think about how terrible things were back then and how terrible things are now. | |
| We still made progress and it took so much effort, took so much work. | |
| It took every bit of parliamentary intrigue imaginable to get the bill out of both the House and the Senate. | |
| This was a really tough thing, a really hard thing that had to be done. | |
| But thankfully it was done, and we achieved it, and at least the legal concept of Jim Crow had been broken. | |
| Then the Voting Rights Act of 1965 got passed after this. | |
| Lyndon Johnson put in so much work and, man, if he had not fucked up and gotten into Vietnam, he'd be one of the greatest presidents that we've ever had. | |
| The amount of work he did on domestic policy is incredible. | |
| And, I mean, this is why we have to vote. | |
| This is why we have to win elections. | |
| Because you can't do these kinds of things that he did if you don't have a Congress that will work with you. | |
| And Republicans have learned that the best way to fuck with people and to sow discord and to kill enthusiasm for the Democratic Party is to just throw sand in the gears of government at all costs and then blame the president for not being able to get his agenda achieved. | |
| It's just that simple. | |
| Now, uh, All The Way suffers because, um, the second half of the movie is about the Johnson campaign against Barry Goldwater and, uh, if you know anything about history you know that that was very uncompetitive. | |
| It would be a lot like having a large section of a movie about the, uh, 86 Bears being about, oh, the Super Bowl, those fearsome patriots, oh, it's gonna be a real burn burner there, I don't know who's gonna win that one. | |
| Oh, they're gonna have to bring their A-game to handle those mighty, mighty guys from the frigid north of Boston. | |
| I mean, it is cool and it is nice to watch the drama and intrigue of the 64 Convention and, again, the King and the Civil Rights protesters fighting To have blacks be made delegates at the convention and just being like, yeah, the Civil Rights Bill got passed. | |
| That's great. | |
| Still more work to be done. | |
| Still more pressure we have put on you. | |
| Still got to hold your feet to the fire to get what we want. | |
| We know we can work with you and we know that we can on some level trust you, but we're still not going to stop campaigning. | |
| We're still, we're not going to be pacified. | |
| We're not going to be complacent because we achieved a victory. | |
| And by the same token, if you suffer a defeat, that also means you don't give up and you just keep redoubling your efforts. | |
| I mean, there is always political work to be done. | |
| There's always more that can be achieved. | |
| And that's just politics. | |
| That's the nature of life. | |
| That once you join the political fight, once you get involved in politics and are active and are motivated and care about it, you realize, if you have any acceptance of how the world works, that whatever it is you want, you're probably not going to see it in your lifetime. | |
| And even if you get it, You're going to see more things that you're going to want and all you can do is put the next generation in a better position to get that. | |
| To achieve that. | |
| That you will die having dreams unrealized. | |
| That there will be a future that you wish you could have beheld better than the present that you are currently living in. | |
| Or something that you could have at least aspired to see happen. | |
| And that's just the way it works. | |
| That's just politics. | |
| It's just life. | |
| It's just the struggle. | |
| It's just the fight, as it were. | |
| And it just goes to show that whatever happens in this election, that getting rid of Trump and getting rid of as many Republicans as we can out of as many offices That just begins the fight that from there we're going to have to deal with filibusters. | |
| We're going to have to deal with Republican intransients. | |
| We're going to have to deal with all kinds of Democratic intraparty fighting. | |
| and it has to it's just going to keep going it's never going to stop going like that we have to be ready for it we have to prepare for it and we just have to keep pushing and understand that If you are a liberal, and if you do believe in these things, we can have disagreements on the edges of things, but for the majority of things, we all agree. | |
| We're all on the same page. | |
| We're all in this together, as it were. | |
| And we all want to make something better happen. | |
| So, that's my two cents. | |
| That's what I can say there. | |
| And now it's time for the questions! | |
| Oh yeah! | |
| CJG says, the idiots, the Q idiots on my university football message board, TigerDroppings.com, seem to think Ice Cube is being red-pilled. | |
| Anyone in the Grifter class willing to make that leap? | |
| Ah, there's a few of them. | |
| I mean, Ice Cube posting the dumb stuff he posted has a bunch of QAnon freaked out and celebrating because for people who hate celebrities, they really, really, really care what celebrities have to say about things. | |
| They're just obsessed. | |
| They're very much crazy that way. | |
| All they really care about is that the people on the TV say nice things about them, whoever they are. | |
| All their claims of hatred of celebrity are lies. | |
| Optimistic to a fault? | |
| Love that name. | |
| Lincoln Vampire Slayer? | |
| Nah, this was a slightly more historically accurate version of Lincoln. | |
| I've never seen Lincoln Vampire Slayer. | |
| No idea how it is. | |
| I've heard mixed reviews. | |
| Cindy Radiohead, that's a good name, also says, I'm here all day for this. | |
| A couple questions. | |
| What figure in civil rights history does Shirley Manson most relate with? | |
| That is the most shameless of indulgences. | |
| Much appreciated, though. | |
| And two, you see the JFK Jr. | |
| stuff is firing up again. | |
| Oh my god, it's my favorite thing in the world. | |
| Someone else asks, in response to that, Melinda Malone, is Shirley Manson part of the plot? | |
| I just assumed it meant QAnon equals garbage. | |
| And then Cindy had to clue him in that this is just, again, me and my fanboyism. | |
| If I was going to make Shirley an alchemist to a civil rights activist, I would probably say it would be Alice Paul. | |
| of the women's suffrage movement. | |
| I read a bunch of that. | |
| I really enjoyed the movie Iron-Drawn Angels. | |
| It is really, it just again, it just goes to show you what happens in these kinds of things where Wyoming entered the union with women having the right to vote in Wyoming and it was just an issue that percolated for decades and Finally, World War I just put the right pressure on in the right time and women were able to | |
| Provoke a response to get the male Congress and President to accept that women do have a right to vote and that being second-class citizens based on gender is horseshit. | |
| And it's really amazing that we went so long without having done this incredibly obvious thing. | |
| I mean, it just really is incredible that the Republic of America, where all men, which | |
| we now understand means that all people, are created equal, just denied half of the country | |
| from voting based on gender because we're just dumb, misogynist, racist assholes. | |
| And this is what Thomas Jefferson, who again, in order to maintain my liberal credibility, | |
| I have to say was a slave owner and a rapist. | |
| Thomas Jefferson talked about how this was the fact that like society will grow and adapt and it will become better and more enlightened than it previously was and that having Having laws that are ancient, having laws that came from antiquity still being enforced | |
| in much later times is obviously bad. | |
| That it is obviously not a good thing to do that and that we need to have a nimble and flexible a government that is responsive to the changes of society and the way that the world thinks in modern times. | |
| The quote is, I am not an advocate for frequent changes in laws and constitutions, but laws and institutions must go hand in hand with the progress of the human mind. | |
| As that becomes more developed, more enlightened, as new discoveries are made, new truths discovered, and manners and opinions change with the change of circumstances, institutions must advance Also to keep pace with the times, we might as well require a man to wear still the coat which fitted him when a boy, as a civilized society, to remain ever under the regiment of their barbarous ancestors. | |
| And this is Jefferson looking at his time and his moment and saying, you know, Down the line people are gonna think that slavery is fucking terrible And there's probably a bunch of other shit that we're doing right now that it will not be cool down the road and So fixing that, handling that | |
| is just it's each generation's struggle to point out that yo this part of the old system this thing that was the way we've always done things before is not acceptable anymore it's not the way things should be it has to be fixed it has to be changed and that has to um and society has to be able to come to grips with that and accept it and move along with it And so hopefully we can do that. | |
| Hopefully we can make progress and we can achieve something in these coming years ahead. | |
| Hopefully we will be able to get our hands on power in the Congress and the presidency and be able to write more equitable and more fair laws. | |
| It's, uh, this is how, this is how government works. | |
| This is how we, uh, do these things. | |
| Let's see... | |
| Alex Zendejas says, do you think Ice Cube has been pilled or is he unknowingly and irresponsibly | |
| giving Q a platform? | |
| I think he just really misread that thing that he posted with the hunter becoming the hunted. | |
| I think he really just bricked it, didn't see what it was supposed to be, that it was | |
| a pro-Trump, not anti-Trump thing. | |
| And he posted it and boom, everyone went crazy because that's how this world works. | |
| Troy Francis asked, what would happen if someone asked Trump the question and he categorically | |
| said Q is not real? | |
| Would it kill the movement? | |
| They like to pretend that it would because it's their last kill switch that they have because all the other deadlines they've ever had have come and gone. | |
| Every other like supposed moment or event that was going to trigger the Great Awakening has passed by the wayside so all they ever have is the question and they love being like oh you guys don't have the nerve to ask the question because you know oh he would rain down the maga upon you and never would know about you and the arrests and | |
| But if Trump was ever asked about Q, the thing is is that, like, I think on some level he has been either told about it in a really vague way, where like Dan Scamino or whoever has been like, yeah, these people really love you. | |
| They think you're fighting corruption and draining the swamp and blah, blah, blah. | |
| And they understand it. | |
| They get you, Don. | |
| They know you, Mr. President. | |
| They understand you, Mr. Trump. | |
| And so, like, I think on like the really most like slowest base level of QAnon, the level that they try to hook you in and red pill you on, the Joe M QAnon a plan to save the world Q, that's where Trump is and I think | |
| that maybe someone told him like if anyone ever asked you about this like say you have no idea but you've heard good things or whatever but because the brain worms are so powerful with Trump nowadays and because he's like just absolutely cratering uh mentally I think if someone asked him the question it would be it would oh that would be it'd be magical because On the one hand, I think he knows that they like him. | |
| On the other hand, he knows he's been told to distance himself from them. | |
| So I think you would probably get something along the lines of the Very Fine People statement, where he might say, oh, QAnon, I've heard that there's been some not good things that they've done, but those were just bad actors. | |
| The idea of it is fighting corruption, draining the swamp. | |
| I've heard good things about them. | |
| So I mean, I just really think that you would get this really milquetoast, boring answer out of him. | |
| I think if a reporter came at him with some crazy, like some really angry comment where like, Sir, how do you feel about the QAnon, this movement that's had two people killed and a guy awaiting trial for murder? | |
| And he's torn apart families, and there's grifters stealing money off of people, and blah blah blah. | |
| I think if you just went at him with this incredibly negative question, his visceral need to avoid negative attention and to receive praise, he would probably just be like, I have no idea what Q is. | |
| I've never heard of it. | |
| I don't know what's going on. | |
| It has nothing to do with me. | |
| I don't support it. | |
| In the moment that happened, if you got that out of him, if you got a reporter to attack QAnon aggressively and to... Trump's an amoeba. | |
| He's a stimulus response. | |
| He doesn't have an actual working brain. | |
| He is a slave to his imperatives. | |
| But if you actually hit him with that, I think that you would get... QAnon themselves would just spend the whole time spinning, explaining, justifying, defending. | |
| Because he was posting a lot now, I think the moment that that speech came out, that Jim Watkins would hopefully be capable of waiting an appropriate amount of time for Trump to be off screen, that he can then put out a tweet that would say, put out a Q drop that would say, disinformation is necessary Q plus, and that would bring everybody right around. | |
| They would all pretend like all of their statements that the question is the be all end all, they would all claim they never said it. | |
| They would all be like, yep, Q sure told us. | |
| Yeah, Trump had to lie, because this information is necessary. | |
| It's too close to the election for him to admit Q is real. | |
| After he wins re-election, he'll admit it. | |
| They'll keep spinning. | |
| They will never stop spinning. | |
| So, I would love for it to kill the movement, and they love to claim it would kill the movement, because that makes them sound like they have integrity and honor, which they don't. | |
| They're scum. | |
| They're absolute scum. | |
| So, yeah. | |
| Yes to all that. | |
| Yogi Ferrell says, I fell asleep last night. | |
| The JFK Jr. | |
| returned as promised. | |
| Why does he have a porn stash? | |
| He did not return, shockingly, and I cannot answer as to why he styled his facial hair the way he did. | |
| And finally, I don't actually have a hateful person tonight, which is unfortunate, so I've got to close with Jay asks, do you think there is something to the theory that intel groups use Q-drops along with Fox and OAN and talk radio to feed Trump misinformation or policy proposals? | |
| There seems to be a loop where info is produced on these mediums. | |
| He picks up on it, tweets or retweets about it. | |
| and then oftentimes starts to create policy around it. We came very close to him deploying | |
| thousands of troops nationwide. Hannity et al are acting as defiso advisors. I don't think the | |
| Q drops directly are being manipulated to manipulate Trump because the Q to Trump pipeline is | |
| very long and the Q drops themselves are not really disseminated directly to Trump. | |
| I've always believed that Dan Scavino is the Q gatekeeper to Trump and he curates what Trump sees vis-a-vis Q. | |
| and whatnot will you it was scavino who originally uh tweeted out the i call this next piece nothing | |
| can stop what is coming and then trump retweeted it with a disclaimer being like i don't know what | |
| it means but it sounds cool and that to me like really reads like uh scavino wrote the tweet | |
| himself and was just like well i gotta give the boss plausible deniability on this one but boy | |
| howdy will it really fire up q anon so uh i i really uh i think that like | |
| q anon's bullshit conspiracy nonsense is now such a part of right-wing culture that | |
| It's almost impossible to figure out exactly where the nonsense comes from. | |
| Because OAN was talking about this guy that got shoved in Buffalo being an Antifa agitator. | |
| While Q hasn't brought him up, because Jim Watkins is really slow afoot when it comes to current news. | |
| He's just very lazy and doesn't want to take strong opinions. | |
| When he does, he's often laughably wrong and stupid, and getting cute dumped on is bad. | |
| He didn't go after this, but again, the problem for Q is that they are the leader of a movement that they have no control over. | |
| So when QAnon is posting the blood packet on the back of the guy's head and explaining how he has these tubes working through his mask that have an easy pour valve for the blood to come out of his ear, Just all of that. | |
| It's still on Q. It's still on them. | |
| And QAnon worked so hard for this dumb, crazy myth of this guy being injured. | |
| And then OAN goes after it. | |
| You could have just said it was QAnon and it wouldn't have changed anything. | |
| They all believe in this kind of nonsense. | |
| They're all so divorced from reality. | |
| And this is what we're dealing with. | |
| We're dealing with a third of the country that is just full-blown nuts at this point. | |
| And yes, Fox News is absolutely manipulating Trump on policy. | |
| I mean, if you want to, like, it's a thing. | |
| It's a running issue now. | |
| Is the Lincoln Project and pro-Trump groups are airing ads on Fox News exclusively so Trump will see them and react to them? | |
| We have people paying hundreds of thousands if not millions of dollars to Fox News targeting an audience of one. | |
| Just targeting the dumb, angry President of the United States. | |
| Because they know he's watching and they know he'll react to things. | |
| Because again, he is just a robot that is tied to receiving praise and avoiding shame. | |
| That's all he does. | |
| Just this sad emotion bot, as it were. | |
| So that is nearly 50 glorious minutes of delicious podcast for you lucky so's and so's to enjoy. | |
| Be back on Thursday night going into Friday morning with another podcast. | |
| I'm sure the world will continue freaking out and doing wild stuff. | |
| So we'll have plenty to talk about then. |