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Oct. 30, 2015 - Art Bell

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Art Bell MITD - Halloween Special Dead Air

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unidentified		I live in the Great American Southwest.
		Welcome to Dead Air, covering 25 time zones like a blanket.
		This is Dead Air.
		That's right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's what it is.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello, everybody.
unidentified		Welcome to Dead Air.
unidentified		Dead Air.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Dead Air has two rules.
		No bad language.
		And only one call for show.
		But I want to serve up a very quick warning, and I really mean warning.
		Tonight is not a joke.
		Some of the material in this broadcast may be very disturbing to some people.
		So be warned.
		This is not happy night.
		Maybe some of it will be, who knows?
		But some of this material is scary stuff indeed.
		And the only headline that I'm going to even put in here actually qualifies as Halloween scary to me.
		The United States has decided to send combat troops, special forces, actually, 50 of them, to Syria.
		Now, I'm a Vietnam vet.
		I know about Mission Creep.
		Trust me, I know about Mission Creep.
		Lots of the rest of you vets out there know about Mission Creep, too.
		So this is the beginning of the war with ISIS.
		And that's Halloween scary, in my opinion, by any measure you can talk about.
		We're going to do some things you're probably not ready for tonight.
		There will be some stories from all of you, some that have been phoned in, some that will no doubt leak in through Skype and other means.
		And of course, our national number.
		We'll get to all that.
		I've got a couple of stories I want to read you first.
		This comes from a young lady when I was 18, and I moved in my first place.
		My friends decided to show me the local cemetery at night after a hard day of hauling boxes.
		It was a large cemetery with old graves on one side decorated with statues on the other side, a lawn with headstones of veterans in the area laid flat in the grass.
		The six of us walked down a path that separated these two sections of the cemetery, admiring the statues and pillars to our right.
		We arrived at a low stone wall around a family plot and decided to get a closer look, wondering aloud if it was really a good idea to visit a cemetery in such a creepy, in fact a creepy old cemetery at night.
		As one of my friends began reading the name and the dates on the headstones, another friend said, I think there's someone over there.
		So we all turned to look, thinking we were about to be ushered out for trespassing.
		Well, I looked where my friend was pointing, and beyond the graves of the hundreds of veterans who were buried there, we saw a dim light about 100 yards away.
		In hushed silence, we watched as it moved closer.
		Soon, we realized this was not the authorities with a dim flashlight.
		As it moved diagonally across the veteran graves, we could see it was a gray, human-shaped figure.
		We began asking each other, do you see that?
		About 50 yards out now, I could see a solid gray figure of a monk, hood drawn over his head, rope tied around his waist, hands folded into his sleeves as he floated on his course toward us.
		The closer this figure came to us, the more details it could be made out in the dark.
		As the monk appeared to give off a light of his own, I could see the shadow of a face under the hood, his knees bending under his robe with each step he took across the grass.
		Even the ends of the rope around his waist were swaying as he walked.
		I stared in disbelief, wondering what my eyes were truly seeing.
		I asked my friends to each point to it, to track its movement, to prove we were all seeing it.
		They did, but they were growing more frightened by the moment.
		The monk, now about 20 feet away only, full-bodied, seven-foot-tall apparition, was going to cross in front of where we stood as he did not appear to be changing the direction he was going.
		My friends all ran back to the car, screaming for me to join them.
		I stood, amazed, breath held, blood cold, and watched him slowly walk past me.
		He must have been five feet away, close enough to just walk up and touch.
		The details of his appearance I will never forget.
		He looked exactly like a Franciscan monk, but light gray and dimly glowing.
		My friends screaming for me in the distance, I've watched him disappear into the rear wall of the brick caretaker house.
		This happened at the Greenlee Road Cemetery in Sonora, California in the summer of 1994.
		That's from Heather.
		And then I got this one, and you should prepare yourself for this.
		When I was a young girl, and I was wild and crazy, up to things I never should have been, With little driving experience, not much sense, a little alcohol, a few of my friends set off for a joyride with me behind the wheel.
		Well, as the morning came, I dropped them off and I was headed toward home, planning on dropping off the car somewhere close to it.
		I somehow ended up on a very busy street during a morning rush hour.
		My adrenaline, the alcohol, and a car, I could barely drive.
		I hit an old woman who came out in front of a bus.
		So I stopped the car.
		The world spun as I saw her on the ground.
		I rushed over and crying, I held her.
		I had no idea what to do.
		I kept telling her to breathe and that I was sorry.
		I could see people calling for help.
		I draped my jacket around her, and she died right before me, looking into my eyes.
	To this day, I've never forgiven myself for this.
	It's why I must write this to you.
	I cannot speak because I might break down.
	It was the most traumatic event of my life.
	I was charged, sentenced, and did my time.
	Many years later, I found myself living alone with a large black dog in an old house.
	I vowed I'd never do anything, any of those irresponsible things I had done, so I kept to myself.
	I had often felt very alone, very afraid at the outside world, would sit and work on music or listen to you, meaning me on the radio.
	I would often have breakdowns of sadness and grief in my heart for what I had done, and I often felt like I didn't deserve to be living.
	One night I was feeling as such, I was sitting on the edge of the bed going through a box of my court papers, the newspaper article of the accident, and I broke down and crying so badly I almost couldn't breathe.
	I just thought it's time to end my life.
	But then I felt something heavy touch me on the shoulder.
	Something leaning up behind me.
	Holding me.
	A flash of this old woman's face.
	That woman I accidentally killed, but not in the way I had seen her on the street on that horrible day, but a gentle sweet lady holding me.
	And I was not scared at all.
	She comforted me.
	There were no words.
	I never turned around to see her, but I felt her, and I knew her for that moment.
	It seemed to last a long time.
	I felt like I had cried for years and years of sorrow finally out of me that night.
	But I stopped feeling alone for the first time in about 10 years.
	This experience has forever changed me and the way I see the world, people, and learning to forgive myself.
	I strongly believe that having such a traumatic moment like this sort of intertwined our spirits for some reason.
	And I have no idea what that reason is.
	But not a day goes by that I don't think of her or those moments.
	Let's couple to just sort of start us off.
	I've got a couple of people on the phone.
	It's going to be a difficult night because I'm going to be like a one-armed paper hanger.
	We've got a very great deal to do coming up in a moment.
	Barbara Macbeth has actually independently researched and studied spirit and ghost phenomena for over 50 years.
	She has conducted lectures, presentations, conducted ghost tours at locations where the ghost phenomena has been experienced by many different people over many years.
	She's also been a co-spokesman on behalf of the Ghost Investigators Society, you know them well, in a USU documentary on television and radio.
	Barbara will be with us alone tonight.
	You will hear things you have never heard before.
	Only perhaps two or three of the ones we have have ever been aired.
	Barbara's leery of anybody who claims to be a so-called expert in any aspect on the subject of ghosts and hauntings.
	She believes there are too many unknowns about it.
	Anyone can claim a title.
	She believes that a ghost is the essence or conscious soul of a person who has lived on this earth.
	A ghost had a physical body, but the consciousness continues after death.
	She believes that whatever kind of personality we have while we are physically alive continues and is still retained after physical death, or at least fragments of it.
	The EVPs that have been recorded have every range of emotion and personality which clearly comes through those recorded strange-sounding voices.
	In addition to the fact that Barbara is with us tonight, I would like to point out that if you go to artbell.com, click on Barbara's photograph, several photographs gathered by the GIS are up there for you to peruse.
	That said, let's take a very quick break and we'll come back.
	But once again, ladies and gentlemen, I'm telling you, this will be disturbing material.
unidentified		Consider this your final warning.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm Marbell, and this is Dead Air.
unidentified		Dead Air.
		Will you partake of that last offered cup or disappear into the potter's ground when the man comes around?
		Welcome to this.
		Here's a walk on the wild side of midnight from the kingdom of knives.
		This is Midnight in the Desert with Art Ben.
		Please call the show at 1952-225-5278.
		That's 1-952.
		Call.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Alright, Here's the deal.
		If you've got a really scary ghost story, call me.
		If you don't have a good, scary ghost story, don't call me.
		If you've got a really good, scary ghost story, and it's short, call me.
		If it goes on forever, don't call me.
		We sort of need to get it on and get it off because we've got a lot to do tonight.
		Same goes for Skype, of course.
		So here we go.
		National number is 952-225-5278.
		That's 952-225-5278.
		Might as well upset somebody else's night, right?
		With a scary story.
		And then on Skype, you are welcome to join us, of course, as usual in North America at MITD51.
		Download Skype.
		It's so easy.
		And then go to the ad of contact, and we are that ad.
		Put in M-I-T-D, as in Midnight in the Desert 51, and then we'll be in your contact list, and you can call us.
		All of that said, let us first say good evening to Barbara.
		From the GIS.
		All right, I want to say something about the GIS.
		The recordings that you're going to hear tonight are of the dead, and it's very scary to hear, so be warned.
		Now, these are gathered by a non-profit group, what was a non-profit group, the GIS.
		I don't know what its current status is, but I know it's still non-profit, if not almost non-existent.
		However, Barbara remains a key member of it, and probably one of, I guess, wouldn't you be one of the original charter people, Barbara?
barbara mcbeath ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
		Yes, me and Roger and Brendan and Jenny.
		And we adopted Barry along the way, probably into it about two, three years.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
		You know, no matter what we ever do, we're not going to get a good phone connection.
		It's not bad, Barb.
		But here's what I'll ask.
		Stay right up on the phone, okay?
barbara mcbeath ▲ ● ▼		You got it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Right into the phone.
		That'll really help us.
		So these are recorded at various locations, ranging from what to what, Barb?
barbara mcbeath ▲ ● ▼		Well, we have done cemeteries, prisons, homes, businesses.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Everything.
barbara mcbeath ▲ ● ▼		Everything.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
		What I want to do is try one very quickly and see if we're in business and everything's working as it should.
		So tell me quickly about number one.
barbara mcbeath ▲ ● ▼		This first one was recorded in Deer Lodge Prison in Montana.
		It was recorded by Barry.
		You'll hear a steel door creaking and the EVP will say, help, I'm in here.
		And you'll hear Barry ask, anybody in here?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		okay now let's give it a try the the the That was, that sounded like help, I'm here.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Is that what it was?
barbara mcbeath ▲ ● ▼		We hear help.
barbara mcbeath ▲ ● ▼		I'm in here.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Help, I'm in here.
		Yeah, help, I'm in here.
		Sure enough.
		I hate to do this because, but I have no choice.
unidentified		again.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, God.
		No question about it.
		So, I mean, what's the theory, Barb?
		Do you think that this man might have died in jail?
barbara mcbeath ▲ ● ▼		I believe if he did not die in that prison, that's where he returned after he died.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Really?
barbara mcbeath ▲ ● ▼		I believe his spirit is still in that prison.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's creepy.
		Yeah, it's a horrible thought, is right.
		In other words, you do your time and you do your time.
		Gia, maybe he didn't do enough time or he passed too quickly, so cosmically up there they made him continue to do time, huh?
barbara mcbeath ▲ ● ▼		That might be just where he lived most of his life.
barbara mcbeath ▲ ● ▼		That might be all he knew.
unidentified		Okay.
barbara mcbeath ▲ ● ▼		I can't imagine prison being a very happy place in the first place.
barbara mcbeath ▲ ● ▼		So it seems like to me, this is my own theory, but I think that people return to locations that they haunt that they were connected to in life.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Well, we have a richness, many of these not played ever on the air before from the GIS.
		So let's quickly move on to the next one.
unidentified		You do the setup.
barbara mcbeath ▲ ● ▼		This one was pretty interesting.
		We had been told at the Deer Lodge that there had been a riot, a prison riot in the prison.
		It was approximately about 1959.
		And the warden had been killed.
		And there was two of the prisoners that was up in this prison tower.
		And the police, sheriffs, and people that were trying to get this riot under control fired a grenade up into this tower where these two prisoners were that were hiding out, that were holding out.
		And while we were investigating this prison, you're going to hear Barry and Brendan, they were underneath one of these massive towers of the prison, and you'll hear Brendan remark, you've got to think right here is where they brought those two bodies down from up there.
		You know, he pointed up at the tower.
		And directly after that, you'll hear this EVP say, my 11th year.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		My 11th year, really, okay.
unidentified		You've got to think right here is where they brought those two bodies down from up there.
unidentified		On a level here.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Wow.
		That was very, very clear.
		Very clear.
		And people should understand that generally that is an exception.
		What you're hearing in these clear EVPs is an exception to what you normally get.
		It's usually much harder to hear.
		Is that correct?
barbara mcbeath ▲ ● ▼		Yes, it is.
		And sometimes they're so whispery.
		We re-recorded so many that we are not able to use on a radio show just because of how low and soft they are.
unidentified		Right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So what we're going through tonight is from years past, Cream of the Crop, most of them never heard on the radio, I would say.
barbara mcbeath ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I believe so.
barbara mcbeath ▲ ● ▼		Most of these have not been heard.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, let's go one more very quickly.
barbara mcbeath ▲ ● ▼		This was also done in the prison, and this was recorded by Brendan.
		Him and Barry had entered into this main room of the maximum security building, and in this clip, you're going to hear Brendan say, I'm going to go see if the cell door is open and go see if the cell door is open.
		He repeated himself.
		And as Brendan is walking to the cell, this EVP says, let me out of here.
		And we argue on what it says.
		It either says, get me out of here or let me out of here.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Let's let everybody decide.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Here we go.
unidentified		I'm going to go see if the cell door is open.
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Let's see if that's up for ourselves.
unidentified		Ha ha ha.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I think it's let me out of here.
		That's what it sounds like to me.
		Let me out of here.
unidentified		Wow.
barbara mcbeath ▲ ● ▼		There's discussion between us on what it's saying.
		You know, you can hear something different, and that's all right.
		It's just that there is a voice there that should not be there.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, yeah, clearly.
		Some of these now were recorded on audio tape, and then, of course, in later years, you moved to digital.
		That sounded almost like it came originally from audio tape.
barbara mcbeath ▲ ● ▼		Some audio tape.
barbara mcbeath ▲ ● ▼		And I think it did.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, so...
barbara mcbeath ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're the most careful organization I know when you record these, sometimes leaving recorders running for hours and hours and hours, right?
barbara mcbeath ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And then you get more hours and hours and hours to sift through them and look for anything because at the time you're doing the recording, you don't know what you're getting.
barbara mcbeath ▲ ● ▼		That's right, because you don't hear them at the time usually.
		I mean, there's been occasions where we have heard the voice and it just kind of throws you off.
		You're not expecting to audibly hear it.
		Right.
		And so when, you know, if you spend three hours on an investigation, you are using another three hours just to listen to your audio tapes, another three hours to go through your videotapes.
		So there's a lot of time involved.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I get it.
		All right.
		Very quickly, before the bottom of the hour here, there are some pictures, Barb.
		If they go to artbell.com and click on your picture tonight, it will lead them to other pictures as they scroll down.
		What kind of stuff are we seeing?
barbara mcbeath ▲ ● ▼		Well, we call it super echo.
		We were in an amusement park that's located in Utah, and we were in a pioneer village where they've brought in old buildings and old houses and stables.
		There's no rides or amusement rides in this area.
		And Roger took a picture of a buggy and stable.
		And that was the, it was at nighttime.
		And we call it a supercharged ecto.
		We don't know what else to call it from that first one.
		The other one is ecto.
		It kind of looks like a face.
		You can see eyes, nose, mouth, shoulder.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You mean ectoplasm?
barbara mcbeath ▲ ● ▼		Yes, ectoplasm.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And so it's an actual spirit we're seeing there.
barbara mcbeath ▲ ● ▼		That's what I believe that something's starting to materialize and form.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And then the next one, which the next one freaks me out.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What's that?
barbara mcbeath ▲ ● ▼		We were doing an investigation in an old building.
		It used to be an opera house that's now a restaurant.
		We were down, we had gone down into the basement under the floor.
		You can see how the floor actually slopes down like how the theaters floors go down to the stage.
		But we were coming up and Roger took a picture in the kitchen.
		And what you should see there is actually the stoves and the refrigerators and things in that restaurant kitchen.
		And there's these three figures.
		Roger calls them my three sons, but there's three figures there that shouldn't be there.
unidentified		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm not wild about it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What a photograph.
unidentified		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hold on, Barb.
		We're at a break.
		You've got a good long break.
		My caller's online.
		Everybody hold tight and be patient.
		We'll get this out as we can tonight.
		It's Dead Air.
		I'm Art Bell.
unidentified		I'm Art Bell.
		Oh, my God.
		Welcome to Dead Bear.
		Feel free to sniff our packets.
		Then, with a smile on your face, please call the show at 1-952-225-5278.
		That's 1-952-CALLART.
		Good evening.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm going to warn you again: a lot of what you're going to hear is really going to be frightening because it's real.
		So, please be wary.
		Please keep the children away.
		And oh, by the way, hi to Bobby and Caguan Dioro, way down in the Philippines.
		That's my wife's brother.
		I wanted to say hello.
		Now to the phones we go.
		And hello there.
		Thank you so much for holding so long.
		And welcome to the program.
unidentified		All right, thank you, Art.
unidentified		How are you doing?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm doing well.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What part of the world are you in?
unidentified		Well, I'm in New Jersey now.
		I just moved here.
		I recently retired from Las Vegas Metro Police in July.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, you were one of ours.
unidentified		Yes, for 15 years.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So tell me what happened.
unidentified		So at the time, this is a few years back.
		I was working for a team.
		It's a saturation team.
		And we're two-man units.
		Usually Metro's single man.
		And we were down on the strip working on a Friday, and it was busy.
		And me and my partner were tired, and we just kind of wanted to go chill out.
		So we jumped in the car and we took off towards Lake Mead.
		And as we're going down, we didn't get all the way down through there.
		We got to about Boulder Highway and Lake Mead.
		And we pulled off, and there's a road called Pabco Road.
		And that road actually goes all the way around out to the desert.
		So we pull off into the desert, and we kind of just pulled around and turned the lights off and just turned on the parking lights and just sat there and started chilling out.
		Now, my partner's sitting, I'm driving, and my partner's sitting there, and he's on his phone.
		And as I'm looking, just illuminated to our right, I see somebody walking towards us.
		And I said, oh, man, we just didn't want to get bothered.
		So this person's probably about 25 yards away, and they're walking from my right to left.
		So I tell my partner, I'm like, hey, heads up, there's somebody coming.
		So he looks up, and we see as he's getting closer, we see a female.
		She's probably about 15, 12 to 15 years old, short brown hair, and she's dressed in like 1950s.
		It almost looked like a poodle skirt or something.
		It was kind of light brown.
		And so now she's walking in front of us, and she's right in front of our car, and she's not looking at us.
		And then as she gets to about past my window, I look down, and she doesn't have any feet, and she's just walking by, but I can see her skirt moving.
		But no feet.
		No feet at all.
		I didn't pay attention to her.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		When a law enforcement officer sees something like this, what do you do?
unidentified		Well, my partner goes, is that real?
		I said, I don't know.
		By the time I turned the spotlight on, she was gone.
		There was nothing there.
		We're in the middle of the desert.
		They're not even scrub or anything.
		It was like a construction area.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I take it, though, she was close enough, you got a good look.
unidentified		Oh, I could identify her in a lineup.
		And in fact, I'll tell you how busy we were.
		That happened, and we kind of just like, okay.
		I mean, it's Las Vegas.
		And we deal with that kind of stuff.
		It's kind of weird.
		I don't want to think that, but okay.
		Well, so we go on about our day.
		And I actually kind of forgot about it because it got really crazy that night.
		And about a couple weeks go by, and we're in briefing.
		And they do electronic briefing where they show it up on the wall.
		And, you know, they're going through the slides.
		And Homicides, Las Vegas Homicide, just came out with a thing where they wanted us to review all the cold case files.
		So they're coming up.
		Okay, this week's this, this week's that, this week's that.
		And I'm, you know, no one's really, you know, we're kind of paying attention.
		And they popped this one up.
		And as soon as I saw the picture, I was like, that's the girl we saw.
		And I didn't even read the rest of it.
		I was like, I know.
		I was like, she was murdered in Anderson.
		I know she was.
		It had to be near Boulder Highway and Papco.
		And I looked at it, and sure enough, that was her.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		When had she been murdered?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Obviously, you looked into the date, I'm sure.
unidentified		Yes, it was 1975.
		And they don't know exactly where she was murdered, but she was found out by the Henderson Ponds near there.
		And I guess she was last seen walking down Blair Highway.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, you know, they do say that people who go in that violent way tend to be stuck here somehow or another.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Men, that's some story, brother.
unidentified		And my partner happened to be off that night, and I texted him the picture of that girl, and he freaked out.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, my God.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Do you still keep in touch with your partner, Ben?
unidentified		Yeah, in fact, he was just texting me, and I told him to listen.
unidentified		He's still active duty out there, so hopefully he won't have to go through a psychological eval after this because they're going to figure out who this is.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm sure they will.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I so appreciate your coming on with that story, and I can understand why you'd be hesitant to tell it, and you would never tell it on active duty.
unidentified		No, no, never.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Wouldn't want to make out that report.
unidentified		No, never.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I thank you, my friend.
unidentified		All right, Art.
unidentified		Take care.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Take care.
		Let's take one more quickly.
		Hello there.
		You are on dead air.
unidentified		Good evening, Art.
		It's Ed from New Jersey.
		How are you doing?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi, Ed.
		New Jersey, back to the East Coast again.
		All right.
unidentified		Good to be talking to you again, sir.
		Okay.
		Well, my story takes place in the mid-80s.
		I was about 10 years old.
		I was at a buddy's house after school.
		His father was doing some yard work and digging pretty deep for what he was doing.
		And he came across something, didn't know what it was, ended up being a cough.
		A what?
		A cough.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		A coffin.
unidentified		A coffin.
		Oh.
		This was the, you know, inner city in New Jersey.
		Homes were from the mid to late 1800s, early 1900.
		So, you know, there was a small backyard.
		So long story short, with that, ended up being a toddler.
		They looked into it, the authorities.
		When it was done back to 100 or so years ago, it was done properly.
		Nobody knew it was there.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Not what I want to find when I go digging in my backyard.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So it was an infant?
unidentified		Yeah, I believe it was around 18 months old.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I would assume all you found would be bones at that point, of course.
unidentified		Well, I wasn't there when I opened it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Consider yourself lucky.
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah.
unidentified		Any activity at all after that?
		Yes.
		This is what the good part of it is.
		Four, six, or seven months in the past starts hanging with us.
		Hanging at my buddy's house again.
		You know, what happened in the past is distant memory.
		And then one day, our new buddy said to my friend who talked to us, I didn't know you had a little brother.
		He said, I don't want a little brother.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		I said, yeah, you do.
unidentified		He was just, you know, peeking at me and waving from the top of the steps.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		He's like, well, we thought, you know, and this kid, you know, we thought maybe he was joking around with us.
		You know, he never heard anything about the story.
		He would do the town, but his family was originally from the area.
		So every time we would be at the house, this one friend of ours would be the only one to see this kid.
		Well, one day, the kid's father comes and pick him up and says, you know, guys, when you hear a funny story, my great-grandparents used to live here.
		They actually lost a child when he was about two years old.
		So it was the one friend who was seeing this entity's relative, great-great-great-uncle, or whatever it may be.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You know, when we do these Voices of the Dead, this GIS stuff, we get a lot of children's voices.
		Extremely disturbing.
		I really thank you for the story.
		I don't know what to think about that, but it's a great ghost story.
		Thank you.
unidentified		Take care.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Aye, aye, aye, aye, aye.
		Let's go back to Barbara.
		Hey, Barbara.
barbara mcbeath ▲ ● ▼		Those were great.
unidentified		Those were pretty good stories, huh?
barbara mcbeath ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
		And the police officer, when they see something, I mean, they're trained to be very, you know, I mean, they're on detail, you know.
		That's great.
		I wonder if we ever found the killer.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That would have been a good, very, very good question.
		I guess it could still be a cold case today.
		All right, let's move on.
		Number four.
barbara mcbeath ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		This next one, we were investigating Gold Hill Hotel up around Virginia City, Nevada.
		And you're going to hear me say, like I usually do, I began asking if anyone was present.
		And you'll hear me say, is there someone here?
		Will you make your presence known to us?
		And you'll hear a young child, I think it sounds like a young boy, saying, help me.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Help me.
unidentified		All right, here comes.
		If there's someone here, will you make your presence known to us?
		That was me.
		I don't know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Man.
		Okay, so that was a child's voice.
		I'm very curious about the electronic accompaniment.
		Any idea what that was?
barbara mcbeath ▲ ● ▼		No, I have no idea.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It was kind of an odd sound that went with it, huh?
		You could still hear it well.
		There is nothing that bothers me more than hearing the voice of a child that's passed.
		And it's because I guess we all feel children should go immediately without passing go up to where it's good, right?
barbara mcbeath ▲ ● ▼		And it just makes me question why we get so many children's voices, because we never, ever have allowed children to be with us.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Of course.
		Of course.
		All right, let's do another one.
		We've got so many.
barbara mcbeath ▲ ● ▼		This one, you will hear Barry talking to Roger, and Barry is kind of harassing Roger.
		And they're talking about some movie.
		We can't even remember what movie he was talking about.
		But he says, I think you seen that movie at the LDS Temple.
		But he said to Roger.
		And you'll hear Roger say, they do have some good shows, though.
		And then a man's voice says, kill them both.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Kill them both?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, here we go.
unidentified		I think you've seen that movie at the LDS Temple.
		You could have some good shows, man.
		Shut them off.
		Shut them ball.
		Shut them all.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Huh.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm not sure what that noise is.
barbara mcbeath ▲ ● ▼		I don't know either.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, let's actually close things up and try it again.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That was, I believe, number five, right?
barbara mcbeath ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So let's see what number five does now.
unidentified		That's slowly.
		They do have some good showers, man.
		Shadow Paul.
		Shadow and Paul.
		Shadow and Paul.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, well, that's still, unfortunately, it's very, it's still, through all of that, it's very easy to hear.
		I'm wondering, just let me go back very quickly and play number one to see if it has that noise on it.
		Now, you see, that's as it should be, the cell door opening.
		That is exactly as it should be.
		So we'll see if we keep getting that noise.
		I certainly hope not.
		Perhaps we'll move out of it, because without it, it would be a lot clearer.
barbara mcbeath ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		Both.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Kill them both.
		Jeez.
		All right, let's try number six just to see if this is hanging with us.
barbara mcbeath ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
		And it could just be the Gold Hill Hotel.
		Who knows?
unidentified		Yeah, that could be.
barbara mcbeath ▲ ● ▼		We were in the living room area of this Gold Hill Lodge.
		And you can hear me say, if you can speak, will you speak so I can hear you?
		And it's a child saying, Mother.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, here we go.
unidentified		If you can speak, will you speak so I can hear you?
		Martha!
		Martha!
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Mother, yes, Mother, but I just don't get that sound.
		And we'll kind of examine during a break coming up what that sound is.
		In the meantime, let me quickly go to Skype and Israel.
unidentified		Hello, Israel.
unidentified		Yes, hello?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi.
		Hi.
		Do you have a ghost story for us?
unidentified		Yes, Mr. Bell.
unidentified		I have a very good ghost story for you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Fire away.
unidentified		Okay.
		Let me get comfortable here.
		I'm kind of nervous, so let me take a deep breath.
		Deep breath, yeah.
		So this ghost story comes from my mother.
		My mother's a Pentecostal pastor.
		She's never told a lie to me ever in my life, so I have to believe her on this.
		And it's very hard for me because I'm a very rational person, and this is a very weird story.
		So let me take another deep breath here.
		Okay.
		So this ghost story took place in the mid-60s.
		My mother was traveling around, and she found herself in the capital of Honduras, I believe called Tegucigualpa.
		And she was traveling around with some friends.
		And some of the friends, they worked at a resort, a hotel resort.
		This hotel resort was under renovation.
		So they go there, they say, let's stay the night here.
		And the ones that worked there, they went ahead and stayed in their quarters, in the employee quarters.
		That was downstairs on the first floor in the kitchen area, next to a jukebox.
		This jukebox was unplugged for the renovations.
		It was also next to a dining area with many chairs and tables.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Right.
unidentified		My mother was staying on the third floor.
		She just had a room there, I guess, because of the renovations and whatnot.
		And on the fourth floor was staying a mother and her child.
		This was going to come into play.
		Okay.
		So my mother, she goes to sleep.
		Everybody goes to sleep.
		And at, I don't know what time of night, but middle of the night, my mother wakes up and she sees this dark figure above her.
		She says that this dark figure, excuse me here.
		You have to understand I'm kind of nervous here.
		I get it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No problem.
unidentified		So this dark figure above her, it's wearing a 1920s, early 20th century tuxedo kind of thing.
		Kind of roaring 20s tuxedo kind of thing.
		This thing has bold eyes, a dark beard, is just looking at her with hate in its eyes.
		It reaches down and grabs her by the throat.
		She can't move.
		She can't breathe.
		She can't scream.
		She tells me that after a while, she just, I don't know how, she got the courage and she just, the power and she just broke free from this thing.
		And she ran out of the room.
		I mean, understandably.
		She ran downstairs.
		And when she got downstairs, she found everybody awake.
		The people downstairs said that they had heard the jukebox going off.
		They had heard the tables and the chairs moving around and a lot of commotion like people were there.
		Of course, this is under renovation.
		There's nobody there.
		Sure.
		So they're there.
		Of course, they're freaked out.
		And then all of a sudden, they start to hear the baby crying.
		They run up to the fourth floor.
		They can't open the door.
		My mother tells me that the mother had left the baby in the crib, had locked the door, and had left for some reason.
		Yeah, I mean, mother of the year, right?
		So they forced the door open.
		And when they force the door open, they find the baby on the floor on a neatly laid out blanket.
		Someone had just laid out a blanket neatly, put the baby on top of it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yikes.
unidentified		Yeah, and when they tell the mother, the mother said, no, the baby was in the crib.
		I locked this door.
		And of course, everybody is very freaked out.
		Of course.
		So they all come to the agreement that they're going to sleep in the same room and they're just going to sleep out the night.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And that sounds very rational to me.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I wouldn't.
unidentified		Yes, sir.
		Yes, sir.
		And I mean, that's the end of the story, Mr. Bell.
		I mean, they just slept out the night in the same room, and that's what happened at that hotel.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Somebody must have tenderly held or moved that child.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How in the world could anything like that happen?
unidentified		It's very weird, and like I said, I'm not The type of person to believe this, but this comes from my mother who's never lied.
unidentified		She's a Pentecostal pastor, and it's very hard for me to.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I believe you.
		I just don't understand or even begin to understand the forces involved.
		And in hearing the voices of those who have passed, as we've been doing, is really, really creepy to me.
unidentified		Oh, and Mr. Bell, if I can add, I remember an old show with the GIS that they had the bathtub, if you remember.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It really freaked you out.
unidentified		How would I ever forget that?
		That was a very good episode.
		The show.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The drowning, I believe.
unidentified		Yes, sir.
		Yes, that's what it was, and that freaked me out.
		That's why I remember it.
		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Thank you very, very much for your story.
		This, of course, is dead air.
		What's going to happen tonight?
		Well, I don't really know, frankly.
unidentified		Thank you.
unidentified		Thank you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Tell me, does fear excite you?
unidentified		Welcome to worldwide on the internet.
		This is Midnight in the Desert with your host, Art Bell, to call the show resolutely dialed 1-952.
		Call Art.
		That's 1-952-225-5278.
		Indeed.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, ladies and gentlemen, we're going back to Barbara Macbeth now and more Voices of the Dead.
		And that really is what you're hearing.
		You're hearing Voices of the Dead.
		And it really becomes very, very disturbing for some people to hear this.
		And I checked, Barbara.
		It looks like we're out of the bad audio territory.
		Yeah, those just added on it.
		So number seven coming up.
		Tell us about number seven.
barbara mcbeath ▲ ● ▼		This was at a mortician's home that he was having activity, and I always felt like something had followed him home from work.
		And you're going to hear him, we were up in his son's bedroom where a lot of activity was taking place.
		And you're going to hear the mortician say, can you see him while he's here?
		Can you see the lights?
		And you will hear a voice.
		We have a dispute on what it says.
		Someone actually said this.
		I don't know if I want to live.
		And the other one says, I don't know how I'm going to live.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
		So I guess first choice would be, I don't know if I want to live.
		Here we go.
		Can you see the lights here?
unidentified		Can you see light?
		No, I call my legs.
		No, I call my legs.
		No, I'm right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, man, that's clear.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I don't know if I want to live.
unidentified		I think that's very clear to me.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How does somebody on the other side, if that's where they are, you know, I mean, that's a statement, right, Barb, of somebody who is probably alive, a statement, or somebody who is very recently dead and doesn't know it yet.
barbara mcbeath ▲ ● ▼		Or the mind is continuing and they want to stop and they're still, as far as they're concerned, they're still alive because their consciousness is going.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		One more time from the other side.
unidentified		Can you see the right sir?
		Peace and light.
		Now let's home the lake.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Totally creepy, Barbara.
		I don't know if I want to live.
		I don't know if I want to hear that one again.
		I want to emphasize to everybody that your organization is pristine, as are you, Barbara, ethically in every way you can imagine.
		This is the real McCoy you're hearing.
		These people have done a fabulous job with thousands upon thousands of hours of work.
		Think what you will of what you're hearing, but there's nobody around making these sounds.
		There's no fakery about what you hear going on.
		Number eight.
barbara mcbeath ▲ ● ▼		On this one, this was recorded at an Indian school where they would take children, Indian children, American Indian children off the reservations and bring them to this school.
		And this is where they would live also.
		And we were there at this location.
		There is no other voice that you'll hear.
		It's just the EVP.
		And it sounds like it says, I don't want to come.
		I don't want to come back.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, I don't want to come or I don't want to come back.
		Listen carefully, everybody.
		Moly, holy moly.
		Barbara, so obviously a lot of hum in that one, but also obviously very easy to hear.
		I don't want to come, I don't want to come back.
		That's exactly what I hear.
		Now, maybe that is suggestion, maybe not, but it sounded extremely clear to me.
		The hum was the only problem with it.
barbara mcbeath ▲ ● ▼		Very sad.
barbara mcbeath ▲ ● ▼		Very sad.
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I don't want to come back.
		I don't want to come.
		I don't want to come back.
unidentified		Which could mean, I don't know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Do you, after you get these, Barb, particularly these disturbing ones, do you try and analyze what they might have meant?
barbara mcbeath ▲ ● ▼		It could mean so many things.
		To me, the Indian school wasn't a very happy place for those Indian children to be.
		They weren't allowed to speak their native tongue.
		They had to speak English.
		They couldn't practice even their religion at this location.
		So it was a very sad place.
unidentified		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How do you maintain your composure, Barbara?
		I guess you've done it for years, but still in all, hearing this stuff puts a big chill down my spine.
		So how do you maintain composure?
barbara mcbeath ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's something that I have never been afraid of this.
		Just my upbringing, I'm very used to this kind of thing.
		The thing that's different is the technology that is allowing me to be able to hear the things that I'm able to record.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
		Okay, let's go on.
		Let's go on.
		Number nine.
barbara mcbeath ▲ ● ▼		This one is Brendan.
		This was at the mausoleum, at a mausoleum, and you'll hear Brendan say, hello, is anyone here?
		And this EVP was recorded.
		It's cold.
unidentified		It's cold.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, cold.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Here we go.
unidentified		Hello, is anyone here?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, brother.
		That is too clear.
		That's either a child, I'm guessing, or a very young, I think, young child, maybe 12.
barbara mcbeath ▲ ● ▼		That's what I think.
barbara mcbeath ▲ ● ▼		I think it's a young child.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So what do we conclude, Barbara?
		I ask you for the 10 millionth time, from hearing these children talk from the other side.
		It just doesn't make sense, Barb.
barbara mcbeath ▲ ● ▼		No, it doesn't.
		And I can't give you an answer.
		I don't know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		They shouldn't be there.
barbara mcbeath ▲ ● ▼		I'd be lying if I said I used to be there.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, they shouldn't be there.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's what I would say.
barbara mcbeath ▲ ● ▼		They should not be there.
unidentified		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Hold tight for a minute, Barb.
		Let's try a ghost story from Skype.
		These have to be good ones.
		Hello, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hello.
		Hello.
		Hi.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi again.
unidentified		I just want to start.
		I'm from East Hampton, Massachusetts.
		Okay.
		I just want to start by saying that I have had lucid dreams before, and I have never had sleep paralysis, and what I'm about to say is none of these things.
		Okay.
		I was about seven or eight, and I was sent to bed early.
		I was being a bad kid, as I did at that time.
		And I was sent to my room, so I took a while to get to sleep.
		But when I did, around 9, 9.30, I was woken up by a woman screaming.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Wonderful.
unidentified		It was not my mother.
		My grandmother had passed away at the time.
		And she was screaming at me and saying, come out here.
		And I, as a foolish child, I decided to go out into the hallway.
		And in the hallway, sitting on a rocking chair that was not there before, I saw an old black woman.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Good Lord.
unidentified		And this old black woman began to yell at me, telling me how I had let my family down, telling me how I was a bad person.
unidentified		And I maybe lasted four seconds out in that hallway before I ran back into my bedroom.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You know what?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		My first reaction would have been not to run out into the hall where the screaming was, but to go under the covers where perceived safety was.
unidentified		As a seven-year-old, I must have thought that whatever happened to me, I'm safe because my parents were in the hallway right across the way.
unidentified		Wow.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, well, I don't know what to say about that, except you were one brave little seven-year-old.
unidentified		I'm much less brave now than then.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I take it that eventually this older black lady was just suddenly gone.
unidentified		Yeah, never again any haunting things in my house.
unidentified		My mom used to say that my godmother was there when a wine glass broke, but I never felt the same feeling of this woman since that one time.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm sure you're not looking forward to it again.
		So listen, thank you very, very much for the call.
		I appreciate it, and I appreciate the brevity and the particularly scary nature of the call.
		Okay, so let's take one more, shall we, Very quickly, let's go to the phone line and say hello.
		You're on the air.
unidentified		Hi, this is Wendy in Squim, Washington.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi, Wendy.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Barbara's listening to your story as well as am I. So go ahead.
unidentified		Okay.
		Well, this starts off with a Ouija board.
		And my brother was living in a house, which was a very large farmhouse originally in a part of California called Rancho Cucamonga Upland area.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, I know it, yes.
unidentified		Yes.
		And anyway, there was like six or seven different apartments in the place that he stayed, that he lived in, that had all been carved out of his house.
		And he was using a Ouija board and started to communicate with this something he wasn't aware of what it was, but he was being alarmed that the house, there was something in the house that was in danger, that there was going to be a bad thing that was going to happen in the house.
		And it was driving him in his dreams, even when he wasn't on the Ouija board, to trying to find out what this was.
		He finally started to get a sense that there was a family living in the house, and the father had been really abusive, and there were like six or seven kids, and apparently the two smaller of the kids were abused.
		I don't know exactly to what extent or all the details on that, but anyway, the house was a place that was very sad because also at some point later the house had to be sold.
		My brother looked all the records up on the house later.
		The house had to be sold.
		And so actually, because it was the depression, people often took their riches and they buried them someplace in these homes so that they would be able to come back to them.
		And so there was this big treasure in the house.
		This is what this Ouija board was telling him.
		And there was different players that were, different roles coming on the Ouija board.
		One time it was a little girl.
		One time it was the father who was very abusive and angry.
		And so it was a huge drama playing out, you know, with my brother and his Ouija board.
		In the meantime...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Different times reach back and get the same person so he could find out where?
unidentified		Yeah, he was really sucked into the story.
		He was curious.
		He felt the other thing was he always appreciated something older, you know, the heritage part of life.
		Yes.
		And not very many people do that, really.
		So because he was sensitive to that, he appealed to them and they appealed to him.
		And he was also lonely and living alone.
		And I think that probably didn't help things either.
		But there was just this wanting to reach out and communicate.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, anyway, on with the story.
unidentified		So anyway, he does eventually is driven.
		He tells the landlord he's worried.
		There's some kind of maybe a, he thinks maybe it's an electrical problem.
		You know, he's trying to solve it like Sherlock Holmes, right?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You could call it an electromagnetic problem, I guess.
unidentified		Yeah, so anyway, of course, I think he's kind of, he tells me these stories.
		I believe that he's sane.
		I don't think he has.
		I have no reason to believe that he has lost touch with reality.
		Let's put it that way.
		That's fine.
		Anyway, so he finally ultimately does get the landlord to start looking around.
		And they do find on a very hot, you know, there's really urgent messages from the Ouija board telling him, you know, time is of the essence.
		You must, you must, you know, driving him to tell, you know, to get something, to find out what's wrong so the house doesn't burn down.
		And that's what they're trying to tell him.
		The house is going to burn down.
		He doesn't know why.
		You know, he's terrified.
		His whole place is going to burn down.
		His birds, you know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, maybe the spirit was worried about the treasure.
unidentified		Well, you know, that's kind of a twist about the treasure.
unidentified		So you're getting hot there.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm sorry, proceed.
unidentified		You've got good guts for these kinds of stories, don't you?
		After all these years.
		Anyway, so finally, the landlord does, you know, okay, you're crazy, but I'll go and I'll look around, I'll check everything.
		So sure enough, 100 plus, you know how hot it gets out there, right, regularly.
		And it's an old house, 100 plus years, well, not quite 100 years old, but it was pushing 100 years old.
		Lots of little hacks everywhere to make it in the depression so people could rent it as an apartment all over the place, right?
		So it's probably Chubby parted, if you will, if anyone knows what that means still.
		But so he goes up to the attic, and it's over 110 degrees in the attic.
		And there's a, sure enough, there's a faulty water heater up there.
		And had they probably not gone up there, the house probably would have burned down.
		But that's not the end of the story.
		So David goes, wow, could you believe that?
		Save the house from being burned down.
		And he didn't tell the landlord really all that was going on, obviously, because he didn't want the landlord to think he was nuts, right?
		So then later, I think he's nuts.
		I'm thinking, oh, gosh, you know, and my mother, to just tell you a little bit about our family, she's a clairvoyant.
		I won't get into all the details, but she would know who was in the cookie jar from two doors down, and there's four of us.
		She just had eyes behind her head, and she is, I won't go all the details on that, but anyway, my brother is very clairvoyant, and I kind of think, well, maybe there's something to this.
		So my mother comes to visit, and she stays in his room, and where his bed is, and she gets in the bed, and she's sleeping in the bed, and she feels this presence walking out of the closet, coming around the side of the bed, and climbing into the bed with her.
		And my mother actually didn't feel threatened at all because she's so clairvoyant that she knew immediately that this was a child that wanted to get close to her, that had known her son, but didn't feel comfortable with a male person.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
unidentified		And maybe didn't have much close, you know, a personal relationship with the mother but needed a mommy, you know, her being a mommy and all.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Got it.
unidentified		And so she kind of just reached out emotionally to reassure this child, you know.
		But then she told my brother, geez, Dave, you know.
		Anyway, so we all believed him.
		There's no reason not to believe him.
		There was a treasurer.
		They were trying to drive him through the Ouija board.
		But the last part of the story, I think my brother's kind of maybe a little off.
		Maybe he's spending too much time alone, et cetera.
		So I've been spending a lot of time with him.
		And I'm sitting up on his, He's moved from one apartment in the place to another one upstairs.
		And I'm sitting upstairs, and there's three people on this futon with all of our backs up against the wall.
		And my brother is sitting across the room.
		We're all talking, right?
		And what we don't know about the house is there was a staircase in the house that had been gutted.
		It had been taken out, you know.
		But originally the plans had to have an elaborate staircase like many of these homes do with the big, you know, mule posts all the way up.
		And it had been gutted, though.
		It wasn't there anymore.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, we're kind of running out of time here.
unidentified		Okay, so I'm sitting there and I feel so clearly as day some kids sitting with their back up against the stairs pounding on my back up against the wall.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yes.
unidentified		And I look to my right and the two people don't feel it.
		I mean, I heard it.
		I felt it.
		I turned with my chin dropped.
		The people next to me, literally next to me, did not feel it, hear it, or understand what I was so alarmed about.
		I looked at my brother.
		We both smiled.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What was the treasure?
unidentified		Well, we never found the treasure.
		He searched, never found it.
		Thought it was a Rolex watch from the 20s.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Thank you very much for the story.
		I would have liked for the treasure to have been located, but that much communication on a Ouija board, well, frankly, even a little communication on a Ouija board is a very, very, very bad idea.
		Barb, welcome back.
barbara mcbeath ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You agree, by the way, on the Ouija board?
barbara mcbeath ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yes.
barbara mcbeath ▲ ● ▼		It's not a toy.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's not a toy, and so many people treat it that way, don't they?
barbara mcbeath ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's how it's promoted.
unidentified		Uh-huh.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Barb, you and I are both getting up there.
		I don't know how old you are, and I won't ask because you're a lady.
		But, you know, I'm 70.
		I'm hearing footsteps.
		I know eventually I'll be on the other side.
		Is it your intent, Barbara, to try and communicate when you get there?
barbara mcbeath ▲ ● ▼		Yes, I have every intention of doing my best to let people know that I am still around.
barbara mcbeath ▲ ● ▼		I've always told my brother, if you feel somebody tap you on the shoulder and you turn around and nobody's there, it's me.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I've always told my wife to watch the ceiling, and she usually slaps me.
		All right, let's go to number 10.
		Number 10.
barbara mcbeath ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		This was in Rollins Penitentiary.
		We did this prison many times.
		We were in the death house recording, and we had Fox News with us at this location.
		I think it was around Halloween time.
		And this voice was recorded on three recorders and my video recorder.
unidentified		Wow.
barbara mcbeath ▲ ● ▼		This one was recorded, I think the one that's on the website was done by Jenny, but everybody picked it up and she was in a different location than me and Barry and Roger.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That is so interesting.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Three devices picking it up.
barbara mcbeath ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, there was actually four.
		There was three recorders and my video recorders.
		And you'll hear this voice say, I appear.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I appear.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, here we go.
unidentified		My dear heart.
		Ooh.
		My dear heart.
		My dear heart.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, there's nothing at all hard to hear about that, is there?
		I appear.
		And I guess the next thing, let me hear that again.
unidentified		My dear heart.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You know, if you could have heard that in real time, I think I would have run.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Because there would have been obviously something about to manifest itself right there.
barbara mcbeath ▲ ● ▼		Yes, and the thing that's so unique about this voice is every recorder, no matter where it was located at that time, picked it up just as loud.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It was loud.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So do we theorize, because you don't hear these with your ear, right?
barbara mcbeath ▲ ● ▼		That's correct.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		the majority of time you don't so then do we So every now and then?
barbara mcbeath ▲ ● ▼		Every now and then, it happened.
		Yeah, it happens.
		Not very often.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So I wonder, do we imagine that they use electromagnetic energy to project these voices into the microphone or the device itself?
unidentified		I have no idea how they do it.
barbara mcbeath ▲ ● ▼		I don't.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
unidentified		Number 11.
barbara mcbeath ▲ ● ▼		You're going to hear Barry and Brendan.
		This is still at the Rollins Prison.
		They were walking into the solitary confinement area, and they hear Roger talking in another section of the building.
		And Brendan asks Roger, you're going to hear Brendan ask Brendan, Brendan asks Barry, who's Roger talking with?
		You know, who's he with?
		And Barry responds sarcastically, he could be talking to somebody and have nobody with him.
		And the voice that recorded, it sounds upset and it says, you lose again, coward.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Really?
		Okay, here we go.
		Truector with.
		He was talking to somebody.
unidentified		We can talk to celebrate our show, we will be.
		We can cut.
		We can cut.
		We can cut.
		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Coward.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That sounded like, I would say a woman's voice, yes?
barbara mcbeath ▲ ● ▼		Yes, and they had a woman's section, a woman's prison there in that prison.
barbara mcbeath ▲ ● ▼		They had a small section.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, oh, oh, oh, I understand.
		Okay, that explains it, I guess.
		You did tend to go to a lot of, oh, I don't know, prisons and did you go to hospitals?
barbara mcbeath ▲ ● ▼		We tried.
		In fact, there was one that was being torn down, and I thought it would be an excellent place to go because I had had so many employees of that hospital and patients of that hospital tell me how they had seen a woman in red in the original intensive care area.
		And so I waited until they relocated all the patients and all the machines and all their stuff out of the hospital.
		And I had approached the members of their board of directors if we could conduct an investigation there before it was torn down.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I would imagine in years past it would have been easier.
		All the attention now to the paranormal, TV shows, radio shows, investigators crawling all over the place.
		Yeah, exactly.
		It was a lot of years ago before people were really doing this much of it because now I'm sure there's a lot of no's that are given out.
barbara mcbeath ▲ ● ▼		Well, yeah, they would not let me do it, even though it was being torn down.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Do you believe, Barbara, that the collection that we're hearing tonight and so many more, so, so many more, are evidence, absolute evidence of people who have died?
barbara mcbeath ▲ ● ▼		To me, it is.
		I don't know how else how it could be explained any other way.
		To me, I have no doubt about life continuing.
		You might be dead, but you continue.
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, okay.
		Let's do another one, if we dare.
		I believe this would be number 13.
barbara mcbeath ▲ ● ▼		No, this is 12.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		This is 12.
		Okay, there you go.
		I'm wrong.
		Sorry about that.
barbara mcbeath ▲ ● ▼		That's okay.
		You're going to hear Brenda and he's talking to the prison director, and you will hear her ask him, what do you do with it?
		And she's referring to C Ds that he had made for her while we had been at the prison previously.
unidentified		Okay.
barbara mcbeath ▲ ● ▼		And he responds and say, he says, I've got it because I make backups of all of them.
		And a voice joins the conversation and says, I have to go now.
		I'm dead.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, my.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, here we go.
unidentified		I still got it.
		Because I make backups of all of them.
		Now we go now.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Ah.
		That one is shockingly clear, I'm afraid.
		There may be some people who have a problem with it, but I'm not one of them.
		I have to go now.
		I'm dead.
		One more time.
		I've got to do this again.
unidentified		I've still got it, because I make backups of all of them.
unidentified		And we've got it now.
barbara mcbeath ▲ ● ▼		And we've got it.
unidentified		And we've got it now.
barbara mcbeath ▲ ● ▼		And we've got it.
unidentified		And we've got it now.
barbara mcbeath ▲ ● ▼		And we've got it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's just totally too creepy.
		I'm glad I didn't, and I almost skipped it, good lord.
		So I have to go now.
		I'm dead.
		I guess they get busy on the other side.
		You know, actually, even though that was horribly creepy, it would suggest that, I don't know, maybe he's headed to a ginrummy game or I'm trying to think the best here.
		You know, or some activity that they have over on the other side.
		I have to go now.
		I'm dead.
		Catch you later.
barbara mcbeath ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm going to ask you in a little while if you've ever, I don't know, discerned something about what's on the other side.
		What awaits us.
		This is Dead Air.
unidentified		Dead Air.
		And I still can hear him say, come on, talk to me, don't you take me, hold on.
		What's going on?
		Welcome to Dead Air.
		It's Midnight in the Desert via Skype worldwide.
		If on a computer, please be sure to use a headphone mic and call MITD51.
		That's MITD51.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And so, it continues.
		Good evening, everybody.
		I'm Mark Bell, and this is Dead Air.
		Indeed, need warning, this is rough stuff.
		You're hearing the voices of the dead.
		That's right, the voices of the dead.
		This is the GIS that has done the work for you over many, many years and thousands of hours of recording, transporting themselves to locations where they thought they could get things and getting them.
		And here is, once again, Barbara Macbeth.
		Barbara, welcome back.
barbara mcbeath ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Let's do a couple and then a couple of ghost stories.
		We're sort of just jumping all over the place tonight, so I'm taking it.
		I hope you're keeping track with me.
		I would think the next one would be 13.
barbara mcbeath ▲ ● ▼		You're right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, good.
unidentified		Good for once.
barbara mcbeath ▲ ● ▼		This is a private residence, and you'll hear Brendan say, I tell you what, it is hot in this house.
barbara mcbeath ▲ ● ▼		And he recorded this voice, and I don't know what it was referring to, but it says, she didn't put it down.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hmm, she didn't put it down.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, Gary.
unidentified		I tell you what, it is hot in this house.
unidentified		It Didn't part it down.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Didn't part it down.
		All right.
		I have an observation about that one right away.
		And that is, not only is it clear, but it's almost too clear.
		I mean, it's almost like, you know, somebody was in the room actually saying that.
		Of course, we have no idea what it means.
		And I trust you implicitly, Bar, but if I didn't know better, I'd say that's, you know, like somebody in the room.
		That's how clear it is, although there is a certain sound that comes with it that's a little bit unnerving, huh?
barbara mcbeath ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
barbara mcbeath ▲ ● ▼		And the difference, I think, that you're hearing is Brendan used a condensed microphone and it was recorded into his computer.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Ah, okay.
		That would explain it, but a good one.
		Oh, a good one.
		I'll tell you what, it is hot in this house.
unidentified		He didn't put it down.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So she didn't put it down, but there's no way, no way to know what that means, huh?
barbara mcbeath ▲ ● ▼		No.
barbara mcbeath ▲ ● ▼		I mean, it wasn't, it's what it's saying isn't relating to anything that was being said or done at that time.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Barbara, you do this, but how do you sleep at night?
barbara mcbeath ▲ ● ▼		I sleep very well.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You do, huh?
barbara mcbeath ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yes.
		This doesn't scare me.
		I find it very fascinating.
		People that have witnessed ghost like a full apparition, I feel like they are very fortunate.
		And I feel like we have been very fortunate that we have recorded so many voices that they have taught to us, like what they have done.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Did you hear the opening story?
		It was from Heather, actually.
		Oh, my.
		That's called Up Close with an Apparition.
barbara mcbeath ▲ ● ▼		Yes, and she's very fortunate to have experienced that because there are so many people, especially people that research it, and all the ghost investigators that are out there now, they would love to experience something like that.
barbara mcbeath ▲ ● ▼		They would give anything to experience that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I guess that would be true of ghost investigators, but it would not be true of me.
		That tells you why I'm not a ghost investigator.
		Just hearing these voices puts a chill down my spine, and I guess we might as well do the next one, though I'm almost hesitant.
		Tell me about it.
barbara mcbeath ▲ ● ▼		This was in the same...
		He says, is anyone here?
		Does anyone want to talk to me?
		And this voice was recorded, there was blood.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		There was blood?
unidentified		Uh-huh.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, here we go.
unidentified		Is anyone here?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Do you want to talk to me?
unidentified		Wow.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, good lord.
		There was blood.
		At least it's past tense.
		Now, if that voice had said there will be blood, it wouldn't matter.
		I mean, you don't hear it until you get home.
		But if it had said there will be blood, then I guess I'd count myself lucky that I got home at all.
		Relax for just a moment, Marva.
		Oh, God, that was awful.
		On Skype, we have Katie.
		Do you have a good ghost story, Katie?
unidentified		Yes, sir.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, proceed.
unidentified		First off, I just want to tell you I love you and your family.
unidentified		I pray for y'all all the time.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All the time.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You've got to be from the south.
unidentified		Yes, sir.
		I live on the Arkansas, Louisiana line.
		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That explains it.
unidentified		Yep.
		And I think that ghost on that EVP was saying she didn't turn the air conditioner down.
		It was why it was so hot in there.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'd have to listen back for it, but God, it's creepy listening to those voices.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Anyway, go ahead.
unidentified		Okay.
		So one night I had went to sleep and I had this horrible dream that this demon thing was at the end of my bed grabbing my feet, trying to pull me off the bed.
		Yes.
		And I woke up.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It was a dream, though, right?
unidentified		Yes, it started out as a dream.
		And I woke up and I sat up and I was like, oh, goodness.
		And I felt something on my feet and I was like, I happened to look down there and it was actually really there grabbing my feet and I felt it trying to pull me and I started kicking and I was just like, leave in the name of Jesus, leave in the name of Jesus because that's what my mama told me to always do if I ever encountered anything.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
unidentified		It left.
		I was like, ooh, Jesus.
		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		When you looked down and you say you saw it, what did you see?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hands?
unidentified		Or, I mean, a whole lot?
		I saw this impish-looking thing.
		It might have been like four and a half feet tall.
		It had like scaly-looking skin.
		Its hands had pointy nails, and it was grabbing around my ankles and on my feet.
		It just horrified me.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I completely understand.
		All right.
		Thank you so very much for that story, I think.
		Barb, what did you think about that?
barbara mcbeath ▲ ● ▼		Well, that is not a ghost.
barbara mcbeath ▲ ● ▼		Whatever she experienced there, That's not a ghost.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You would classify that.
barbara mcbeath ▲ ● ▼		That's a different kind of an entity.
		She experienced something like that, and that's what she saw.
		That's a different kind of an entity.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Have you?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm afraid to even ask, but have you encountered that different kind of entity in your work?
barbara mcbeath ▲ ● ▼		I have in not what she described, but I have encountered different kinds of entities before the GIS, just in my upbringing, yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's scary.
		That's legitimately scary.
		All right.
		Let's grab one more quick ghost story here from Jazz Monday in Australia.
		Hello there.
unidentified		Hi, Art.
barbara mcbeath ▲ ● ▼		Hi.
unidentified		Scary night.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Scary night indeed.
unidentified		Yes.
		So back in 96, my brother was suffering a deep depression and he hardly ever came out of his room.
		And one day I found him unresponsive in his bed with an empty bottle of pills and a note.
		And the paramedics came, they worked on him for what seemed like hours.
		And at one stage, they thought they had lost him.
		And then they were able to revive him and stabilise him enough to get him to the hospital.
		Long story short, they did get him to the hospital.
		He did survive.
		He's since turned his life around.
		He's no longer in a deep depression and he's living overseas with a wife and family.
		So fast forward to earlier this year, and my sister and I were helping out at my parents' house, and she was putting her son to bed in one of the bedrooms.
		As she exited the room, she was startled because she thought she saw a solid human figure with its back towards her, who she categorically claims was my brother, because you sort of know the look of someone you've known for all your life when you see them from behind.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Of course.
unidentified		And she sees him turn and walk into the bedroom, and she knows at that time, like she called out to him, and I heard her actually call out to him, and like she knew full well at the time that it couldn't have been him because he wasn't there.
		So she walks down the hallway, turns into the bedroom, and there is nobody there and no way anyone could have gotten out.
		So now you and me would probably leap to some paranormal explanation, but my sister doesn't come from our world that we come from.
		She didn't graduate from the Art Bell Paranormal Community College.
		And so she puts it down to sleep deprivation of a new mother.
		So we go downstairs, well, she came downstairs to me and my mum with a puzzled look on her face.
		And I asked her why she called out to Marcus.
		And she proceeds to tell my mother and I what she just saw.
		And my mother's face went white as a ghost.
		Pardon the pun.
		My sister then asks her what's wrong.
		And my mum proceeds to tell us that she never told anyone this because she didn't want to seem like she was crazy.
		But one day she was putting linen away in the closet and she caught something out of the side of her eyes and long story short, she sees exactly the same thing that my sister did and called out to him, followed him, and nobody was there.
		So I didn't witness this, but my mum's expression and the colour draining from her face when my sister relayed the story was just all the proof that I basically need.
		Now, is that a ghost?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, so we've got two people, Jazz, processing it in very different ways, obviously, according to their own worldview.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I guess that's what we do as humans, right?
unidentified		Oh, definitely.
		And this was like 10 years apart between my sister seeing it and my mother seeing it.
		And like, I don't know what it is.
		Is it a loop?
		Is it something that's being replayed over and over?
		Because my brother's not dead.
		He was suffering a deep depression and he spent a lot of time in that room.
		And we always assume that hauntings are the result of when a death is very sudden or it's violent or there's some kind of unrequited love or something like that.
		And depression's a deep, strong emotion.
		Was that something that was lingering, that emotion is lingering causing that?
		Or he actually clinically died in his room while they were reviving him.
		Was perhaps a part of his soul, if you believe in that, left behind.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I do, Jazz, I do.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you so much.
unidentified		No problem.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Have a good night.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So, yeah, Barb.
barbara mcbeath ▲ ● ▼		That's a doppelganger.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Is that what it is?
barbara mcbeath ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
barbara mcbeath ▲ ● ▼		They saw the ghost of someone who's alive.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		And projected.
		Barb, that kind of depression that he described, combined with a near-death experience or a death experience, depending on how you want to look at it, I guess, could project some pretty strong stuff, right?
barbara mcbeath ▲ ● ▼		Well, yes, that could be a residual experience from just the emotion that this young man was going through at that time in his life.
barbara mcbeath ▲ ● ▼		Burned something in that room, that atmosphere.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Gotcha.
		All right, Barb, two questions for you.
		One I've been waiting to ask, and that is, have you, in the years you've been doing this, gleaned anything at all about the nature of the other side?
barbara mcbeath ▲ ● ▼		I think the nature of the other side depends a lot on that individual's mental state.
barbara mcbeath ▲ ● ▼		I think, in fact, I kind of worry about the generation coming up.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Don't we all?
barbara mcbeath ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, on their on how the ghosts will be in the future, you know.
barbara mcbeath ▲ ● ▼		I mean, there is so much turmoil.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, we are the future ghosts.
		And then as they will then be.
		One other question, and that is about suicides, Barbara.
		Have you discerned anything at all About suicides versus natural or even unnatural deaths?
barbara mcbeath ▲ ● ▼		I've known some people that have committed suicide and their families have all experienced activity.
		I don't believe their soul and their spirit is at peace after they've died.
		I think they're still in turmoil.
		I think the mental state of the person continues.
unidentified		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
unidentified		Let's do number 15.
barbara mcbeath ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		This was at an old Western military fort that was established back in the 1800s, and it's still in use today.
		Barry was in the museum, which used to be one of the barracks.
		And he recorded this child's voice.
		It says, it's dark in here.
		It was not dark in that room at the time.
		There were still lights on.
		But when we went back to that location and we were talking to the curator of the museum and told him about this child's voice, he informed us that he had just learned a few weeks prior that women and children were kept in the basement of the barracks for their own safety.
		The women, the wives of soldiers, were referred to as laundresses.
		And to keep them safe, they lived in the basements of these barracks.
		Because we were surprised to get a child's voice there on this military base, you know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You can imagine, of course, yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Here we go.
unidentified		Wow.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm going to have to replay that for you, I think.
		It was quite clear and quite fast, so let me do it again.
		Oh, that is a little child's voice.
		There's no question about it.
		One more time, please.
unidentified		Yeah, that's awful.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You know, obviously, it's dark then in a different realm altogether the other side.
		And I don't want to think of the other side.
		It's dark.
		Maybe this poor child made a wrong turn, aka John Lear.
unidentified		I don't know.
barbara mcbeath ▲ ● ▼		The curator was quite surprised that we had recorded a child's voice, and he was quite fascinated that we had.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
		Yes.
		All right.
		One more.
		One more.
		And it's number 16, and it's pretty.
		This has been heard before.
unidentified		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But this is the creepiest, oh, the creepy, oh, the creepy.
		It really is.
		Tell us about it.
barbara mcbeath ▲ ● ▼		This is in a cemetery, and it's one of our favorite places to go.
		We get great EVP out of this cemetery.
		And we were discussing some ghost pictures that had been developed, and we were looking at them and talking about them.
		And we recorded this voice.
		I think that she came to a self-realization of her situation, and she says, I'm completely dead.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The moment of realization, huh?
		Okay, here we go.
		Okay, so we don't have that one repeated unless I repeat it, and I shall indeed repeat it.
		Okay, what's being said is I'm completely dead, and there's absolutely no mistake about it.
		One more time.
		That's so weird.
		I mean, it must not have been, it might not have been the instant of recognition that that person was dead, but it had not been a long time since that person found out they were dead.
		That would be my conclusion.
		Would you agree?
barbara mcbeath ▲ ● ▼		Very, very possible.
barbara mcbeath ▲ ● ▼		That cemetery is so active.
unidentified		In fact, one night I thought I'd tell you a little ghost story.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, we don't have the time.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It'll have to be on the other side.
unidentified		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Other side of the other side.
		You know, great.
		The other side.
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art bell ▲ ● ▼		This one's getting to me.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I've got the lights turned down in here.
unidentified		And this is just some pretty freaky stuff.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What can they say?
unidentified		And we've got another full hour of it coming up.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're listening to Barbara Macbeth, who's kind of here on and off in between the ghost stories with her own EVPs, the best probably EVPs ever played on the air.
		Many of these, most of these, actually never heard ever before on the air.
		And very disturbing EVPs at that.
		Back to Barbara.
		You said you had a bit of a story, Barb.
barbara mcbeath ▲ ● ▼		This is quick, and it's kind of comical.
unidentified		Sure.
barbara mcbeath ▲ ● ▼		In that cemetery, we would always get cold drinks in a paper cup at a place and maybe french fries in a hamburger to eat before we'd start our investigation at this cemetery.
		And Roger had finished his drink and we were walking down the road and he tossed his empty cup into a garbage can that was chained to a tree and the cup came flying back up and arched and he could have really almost caught it if he would have tried.
		It went into the garbage can and came flying back out.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh God.
		I take it that that kind of activity was not frequent.
		Because you just couldn't keep doing this if it was.
barbara mcbeath ▲ ● ▼		We've had quite a bit of activity that we've witnessed.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well then you guys had iron spines.
		That's all I'm going to say.
		All right.
		Let's do one more and then we'll take a ghost story.
		So number 17.
barbara mcbeath ▲ ● ▼		17.
unidentified		Yeah.
barbara mcbeath ▲ ● ▼		This is an old building where a new age business is now residing.
barbara mcbeath ▲ ● ▼		Originally, this building, which a lot of the buildings in our town, had brothels upstairs, the main buildings.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Must have been a long time ago.
barbara mcbeath ▲ ● ▼		Yes, back in, this is a railroad town.
		And so Barry recorded this voice.
		He was upstairs, what they called the cribs where the girls would work, little small rooms.
		And he was winding up and getting, we were getting ready to leave.
		And we have the impression that this female ghost kind of liked him.
		She hears this voice.
		She says, gonna miss you, and I mean it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So I guess, let me just play it.
		I guess there's humor on the other side.
		Okay, that's only a single play, so I'm going to have to do it again.
		So you're listening to this, well, it's a young lady, all right?
		I'm going to miss you, and I mean it.
		Can everybody hear that?
		I'll do it one last time.
		It was from a brothel, and I guess he made an attachment, so to speak.
		Here we go.
		That's funny.
barbara mcbeath ▲ ● ▼		That's probably her routine line that she'd give when they'd leave.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Maybe, maybe, but once you're on the other side, I guess you don't get to utter too much that people hear.
		And that's kind of a key.
		I mean, you're there with electromagnetic pickups and hearing things that other people don't hear.
		So it makes you wonder how often does an entity, a ghost, try and communicate unsuccessfully?
		Probably most of the time.
barbara mcbeath ▲ ● ▼		Probably most of the time.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So the connection from their world to our world is, well, at best, very tenuous.
		All right, hold tight, Barb.
		Let's go to Skype and see if Daniel's got a good one for us.
		Hi, Daniel.
unidentified		Hey, Art.
		Hey.
		Hey, I'm so glad to be on because you have combined two of my favorite shows, the EVPs and the ghost stories.
		Gotcha.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's pretty cool.
unidentified		So my ghost story starts in 2006.
		I went to a really small private college in North Georgia.
		And the ghost legends around there are really sort of famous among the students.
		But the one that I always heard, because I was a theater kid, is in our little black box theater was the spirit of Jesse, who was very big into the theater, always played an older role if they needed him, and was supposedly a janitor who died in a car crash.
		And I experienced little things with Jesse, but he really got me one night when it was my first date with the woman who would become my wife.
		We set up a little TV to watch a movie, and I dragged a couch in, and I was one of like three people who had a key to this place after hours.
		So we watched our movie, and the thing you have to understand about this black box is in the middle, it's a wide open space for two floors.
		So when you're in the middle of it, you can see not only the hallway around you, but you can see the hallway up above you with perfect clarity.
		So we're sitting there talking on the couch.
		Movie's over.
		It's dark except for one single light on, ironically called the ghost light.
		And we're sitting there, and all of a sudden we hear footsteps up above us.
		And so we look at each other and we're really freaked out.
		And we sit there and I kid you not, up above us, we hear these footsteps go running from one side to the other side.
		And they sound like bootsteps, very, very loud, obviously someone there.
		And we can see it.
		We can look up there and see every bit of that and no one is there.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Nobody is there.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So as the footsteps go, there's nobody there.
unidentified		Yeah.
		So they do this and we sort of pass it off at first and go back to talking.
		So then it happens two, three more times until, I kid you not, we're done.
		We are so for, we're in two college kids in the middle of a dark theater and we say, we're out of here.
		Screw this.
		I mean, we're out.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'd have been out the first time.
		Maybe the second time.
		First time, I guess you could put it off to something, but when there are footsteps going right past you that you should be seeing, something attached to them and you don't, twice would be not nice.
unidentified		Oh, and it's not just footsteps.
		They are running.
		They are heavy boots and they are booking it from one end to the other.
		I got you.
		And the real punchline to it is that this is maybe January.
		I graduated months later.
		So right before I graduated, I talked to the head of the theater department.
		We're sitting in her office just chatting.
		And I happened to bring up Jesse because I never truly believed the legend behind him.
		I'd experienced him.
		I knew he was there.
		I totally felt that.
		But I didn't believe in the legend.
		And she goes, oh, no, no, no.
		She said, he wasn't a janitor.
		And I said, excuse me.
		I'm floored.
		She said, Oh, I knew Jesse.
		He wasn't a janitor, he was a cook.
		He loved the theater, he absolutely adored it.
		And she goes, Actually, and she reaches around and she grabs a picture and she hands me the picture, and there was Jesse.
		And she absolutely confirmed that not only was Jesse a real man, not only did he love that theater, but that she believed that he was there too.
		I mean, it sounds chilled out.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Thank you so very, very much for the call.
		And let's go to Santa Rosa, I think, California on the phone.
		You're on the air.
unidentified		Hi, my name's Kathy.
		Hi, Kathy.
		This took place in Marin.
		I occasionally am called to help people if they have a disruptive spirit or weird energy in their house.
		And some people down there had built an add-on to their home in Marin.
		They added a guest room on the back.
		And every time somebody stayed in it, they always wound up on the couch in the morning saying that it was freezing in there, that it didn't feel good.
		It was too cold.
		It was something wrong with their air conditioning.
		And sometimes it looked cloudy in there.
		So they would always wind up kind of afraid sleeping on the couch.
		And they didn't deal with it too much because they didn't use it to sleep in themselves.
		But then one day they decided they were redoing their house and they were varnished a mantle over the fireplace.
		And when they woke up in the morning, there was a little child's footprints in the varnish going across the top of the mantle and they didn't have any kids.
		So they all freaked out about that and they decided they were going to, they knew someone who knew me and they just said, would you just come over and take a look at this, what's going on in our house, kind of an energy function way, I suppose.
		Sure.
		And I went there with a couple of friends and I have some abilities to do this.
		So we walked into the room, we opened the door and it was like walking into a refrigerator.
		It was really, really cold.
		I mean, they said it's never been this bad.
		And we could see kind of a hazy, almost just a lightly milky cloud right in the middle of the room.
		And it happened to be just right where the bed was.
		And I went in.
		I said, well, let's just stop for a moment and take a breath.
		And I said, hello, is there someone there?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		Who are you?
		And it moved toward me, and no one else could hear this, but I heard it right next to my ear.
		It said, mother.
		I'm looking for my mother.
		I kind of got a little, well, okay, this is intense.
		So I said, what happened to you?
		And I saw a picture of a swimming pool.
		And they also had mentioned to me that occasionally they found piles of little puts of water in the floor in that room.
		And there was actually some dampness on the floor when we were there.
		So we actually walked out of the room because it was really intense and we were having a little bit of a hard time with it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You actually saw water on the floor?
unidentified		There were little damp piles of water, just like three or four of them leading out the door.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I still know where this is going.
unidentified		They had actually had the plumber come and check.
		They had the air conditioning check.
		They thought there was something wrong with the house.
		So I sat down and I asked them, have you ever had a swimming pool in the backyard?
		And they said, no, there's never been a pool there.
		And I said, are you sure?
		They said, well, we can call our next door neighbor.
		They had someone who had lived there for 50 years.
		They gave her a call while I was there.
		And she said, well, yeah, some 10 years ago, there was a swimming pool there.
		And the people who lived there, their three-year-old daughter, had drowned in the pool.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, my God.
		I knew it.
		Yeah.
unidentified		And what had happened is that the father was, he blamed the mother, and he was so livid, he literally showed up with bulldozers, I guess, and bulldozed the pool and filled it with earth.
		And they moved out.
		And two years later, the mother evidently, who had never gotten over it, died in a car accident.
		It was a single car accident.
		There was some speculation that she had killed herself.
		And the little girl was, so as I talked, they told me this, I said to the little girl spiritually, just telepathically, can I help you?
		And she said, again, I will need to find my mother.
		And I did a few things that I know how to do in terms of assisting spirits to move on and reconnected her to let her know she didn't have to stay there.
		And I did manage to reconnect her with her mother and help them both move on.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That poor little girl.
		Do you have any, I mean, we hear, you know, with these EVPs, we hear so many children.
		Do you have any clue?
		You know, I'm going to go back and ask Barbara again.
		But, I mean, we think, we adults, we somehow think that if a child like that drowns in a pool, they're not going to some nether region where there is nothing or darkness or cold or whatever.
		They're going directly to heaven without passing go, but it doesn't seem that way.
		Where was that child trapped?
unidentified		She was trapped in the anger between her parents.
		They didn't let go of her.
		She was actually trying to heal her mother.
		One of the reasons she didn't leave was because she was really in pain about the fact that her mother literally disappeared spiritually.
		She just went kind of in such deep depression, and the entire family was destroyed.
		And on some level, the little girl was still trying to find them and heal it so she could move on and finish the cycle with them.
		And it was a very, very painful thing.
		We were all very sad when we got done, but uplifted because we actually were able to assist them.
		And that's a whale of a story.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you so much.
unidentified		You're welcome.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Take care.
		You know, it's hard.
		This thing with kids is really hard for me.
		The adults, well, you can imagine all kinds of long lives lived, right, in error or sin or however you want to look at it.
		And they're being trapped, but not children.
		So there must be many things that we truly do not understand about what we call the other side.
		Here once again is Barbara Macbeth.
		Hi, Barbara.
		Boy, that was some story, huh?
barbara mcbeath ▲ ● ▼		Yes, it was.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		She actually got into a dialogue with a little three-year-old.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		My goodness.
barbara mcbeath ▲ ● ▼		And hopefully the people that live in that house have never experienced her again.
		She has moved on, hopefully.
		It'd be interesting to know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You know, when I asked You about the something about, you know, tell us something about the other side.
		You really can't.
		I do understand that.
		But do you believe, you do believe, right, that this is some sort of, I don't know, middle area before you go on to wherever your final destination, I'm not trying to spit out movie titles here, is?
barbara mcbeath ▲ ● ▼		Well, you're getting into theology.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, a bit, a bit.
barbara mcbeath ▲ ● ▼		You know, I just believe that we continue on.
barbara mcbeath ▲ ● ▼		I believe that it's a learning process, that this is just one of the lessons, life's lessons here, and we continue on.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Number 18.
barbara mcbeath ▲ ● ▼		All right, you're going to hear Brendan and Barry.
		We were investigating a mortuary, and Barry recorded this.
		And you'll hear Barry say to Brendan, I hope there's no bodies down there.
		And this voice tells him to talk to the dead.
unidentified		Talk to the dead.
barbara mcbeath ▲ ● ▼		And there was several bodies down there.
		We didn't know it.
		There was a couple of us that went down in the basement, and there was probably about nine bodies on slabs in this room.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		On slabs?
		Yeah.
		All right, here you go.
unidentified		I'll take my daddy down there.
		Oh, yeah.
		Thank you.
		Thank you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, that was very fast.
		Let me try and do it again here.
		Many of these at earlier times were repeated.
		Let me try it again.
		Okay, that's a little hard for me to hear, so I'm going to do it one more time and see if I can hear it.
		Yep, talk to the dead.
		That's what it is.
		Talk to the dead.
		That time I got it clearly.
		These old ears are trying.
		All right, so yes, there it was.
		Talk to the dead.
		And now I'm, you know, in view of the discussion we just had, let's push on to number 19.
barbara mcbeath ▲ ● ▼		All right, this was recorded in a cemetery, and I think we've played this one on your show before.
		But you're going to hear wind blowing and a baby crying throughout the whole time.
		It was after midnight, and there was absolutely no children around, and the EVP is not looped.
		This whole crying episode is just what was recorded.
unidentified		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Now, you see, it doesn't seem, my God, that was awful.
		I mean, how could an infant, a baby, be caught on the other side?
		That's awful.
barbara mcbeath ▲ ● ▼		Yes, and some people think they hear it laughing.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Really?
barbara mcbeath ▲ ● ▼		And how you hear it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Really?
		Laughing.
		You know, that would be nicer.
		Let me try again.
		Hold on.
unidentified		Hold on.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you, Barbara.
		It's either the power of suggestion, or I'm not really sure, but it does indeed.
		Thank you, thank you, thank you.
		Sound like laughing.
unidentified		So it was written.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You know, that helps me a lot.
		You'll never know.
		It says baby crying, and I thought, oh, God, baby crying, not good.
		And when you made that suggestion, maybe it's just the power of the mind.
unidentified		Who knows?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Honestly, don't know.
		But, yeah, amazing stuff.
		All right, let's go to Skype briefly and say hello to Brian.
unidentified		Hey, Eric, how's it going?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's a pretty wild night, Brian, as you can hear.
unidentified		Oh, yeah, definitely.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, so are you going to, first of all, turn off your device, please?
unidentified		Is that better?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it needs to be off.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And if you have a ghost story for us, proceed.
unidentified		All righty, this actually has to do with a listener that calls into you a few times, Jack W. He's a good friend of mine.
		He took me into a cemetery near us.
		And we decided to take a mirror in there one time.
		And it was not a good thing, we found out, because it actually got extremely hot in my hands.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The mirror did?
unidentified		Yes, it did.
		And then pretty much every time after that, I've been in that cemetery two or three more times.
		And every time I've been in there, I've had a really difficult time breathing.
		Every time.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Breathing?
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, there are weird things in the paranormal world with mirrors, scrying and such.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Mirrors are strange in a way, huh?
unidentified		Yes, they are.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I appreciate your story.
		It was short and quick.
		The way to do it.
		Thank you very much.
		So what do you all think about that?
		I'm kind of glad that he brought it up.
		Barbara, mirrors.
		Are you aware of anything with regard to mirrors that is strange, unusual, paranormal?
barbara mcbeath ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		Mirrors, to me, are weird.
barbara mcbeath ▲ ● ▼		There's a lot of, well, there's some cultures.
		I don't know if they still do it, but I know they used to do it when a person would die.
		They put mirrors up because the dead supposedly does not like seeing themselves.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You think the dead can Even can see themselves.
barbara mcbeath ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
		I don't know.
		I just know that that has been a procedure of certain cultures in the past.
		I see.
		Brendan experienced seeing that child in the mortician's house.
		It looked like his neck was broke.
		It wasn't fitting right.
		Brendan saw his reflection in the mirror.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Gosh, no thanks.
		That's horrible.
		All right, Barb.
		Hold on.
		I'm going to put you on hold and venture forth.
		We've been getting quite the night tonight.
		Lake Charles, Louisiana, I do believe.
		Hello.
unidentified		Art, thank you for replaying the baby because I'm sitting here and I had chill bumps.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Do you kind of agree?
		I mean, when you first hear it, you go, oh, God, a baby.
		But then when you listen closely, she's right.
		I think it's laughing.
unidentified		It got better.
		I want to think it was laughing.
		Okay.
		This is Michael.
		So I've lived in Lake Charles, born and raised here.
		But in 2004, I moved to Alaska to be a youth pastor for a church.
		I was living in Seward and had was invited to come and speak at a church in Fairbanks.
		It's about a nine-hour drive from the south, not used to, I got there in January.
		This was in February.
		I took out on this trip by myself and had been given tips.
		And this is where you want to stop.
		This is where you don't want to stop.
		Gas is real expensive here, things like that.
		So I got out of just north of Anchorage, north of Wasilla.
		And up in that part of the country, I had been, the people that I had been with had stopped and picked up hitchhikers, and they just said it's just kind of a thing.
		You don't really do it in Louisiana, but here it's life and death.
		If you see somebody on the road, they're not going to.
		So I saw a man walking north on the road, and I pulled over.
		He got in the truck, and I remember distinctly he had kind of a little bit of a body odor smell.
		He smelled like a campfire.
		He was unshaven.
		His name, he told me, was Alex.
		He spoke with a Russian accent.
		And he said he was a mountain climber.
		And he said his favorite place on earth was the top of Mount Everest and that he was in Alaska to climb Mount McKinley.
		So he was on his way to Denali Park.
		He rode with me in the car for about two and a half hours, asking me about why I was there, about my calling that I felt on my life and feel on my life, discussed those types of things with me, gave me tips about driving in the ice, and told me not to do things that would have caused error.
		And we came to a town called Trapper Creek.
		I don't know if you're familiar.
		And I was not going to get gas there.
		It was one of the places I was told the prices will kill you there.
		And he said, you'll want to stop here because the weather is too bad.
		Denali is the part where I was planning to stop.
		They're going to be closed.
		And so I said, okay.
		And he'd been in the car for two and a half hours.
		We talked extensively about Everest and his plan to see the top of Mount McKinley.
		Well, we stopped.
		I got out, started fueling the car.
		He grabbed his small backpack that he had, walked into, I saw him walk into the gas station, a little junction station, had a little cafe in it.
		He walked through the doors.
		When I finished filling up, I went in to use the restroom and pay and grab a bite.
		And I asked the clerk, I said, where's the man that just walked in?
		And she looked at me and said, you're the only one who's been here for hours.
		And I said, no, a man just walked through these doors.
		We spent 20 minutes walking around the back of the building.
		We followed the tracks back to the two sets of tracks, back to the truck.
		He was nowhere to be found.
		There was icy wetness where he had been sitting in the truck.
		The truck still smelled like him.
		So at that point, I've chalked it up to, you know, was it a ghost?
		Was it an angel?
		I don't know.
		I wouldn't have had enough gas when I got to Denali.
		That gas station was indeed closed.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, here's what I'll say.
		It may be that living on the other side, as he may have been doing, he could spend time on Everest because I can assure you the average human being can't breathe at the top of Everest.
		Not for long.
		There are a few who claim they've tried.
		But the fact of the matter is there is not enough oxygen up there to support a human being.
		And frequently, the stay on Everest is not somewhere.
		Put it this way.
		It's not a place you lollygag around at all.
		You get there, and then you get down, if you can, as fast as you can.
		Okay, let's go back to Barb.
		And we've got the next one coming up that just is awful.
		It may have been heard on the air before.
		So many of these have not been.
		But this is number 20 we're talking about here.
barbara mcbeath ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		We were in a mausoleum, and Roger recorded this voice.
		You don't hear Roger, but just the EVP that is on this one.
		And I don't think that this one's looped either.
		But Roger had said, talking about our video camera infrared lights, he had apologized to any ghosts there saying that our lights would not hurt them.
		And he recorded this voice saying, our deathgate.
		And you can hear This voice kind of echoey, you know, it's all marble, walls and floors and ceilings.
unidentified		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Our Deathgate, not one I like.
		And hold on.
		We're going to get to it here.
		I'm going to have to play this, I think, several times for you.
		Deathgate, that would mean where you go to die.
		So that one is sort of whispered, I would say.
		Listen carefully.
		Yep, that's a whisper.
		That's definitely a whisper.
		I wonder why, one more time, I wonder why somebody on the other side would feel it necessary to whisper.
		Very quickly, Barbara, any thoughts on that?
		Why would they whisper?
barbara mcbeath ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
		I think it takes a lot of their energy to even be able to be heard on a recorder.
		I don't think that that's something that comes easy to them.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, if that were true, you'd think they'd almost have to shout.
		But that whisper got through quite effectively.
		I just, you know, it just seems strange to me.
		Not many of the ones that you've recorded are whispers, but I know some are.
		Okay.
		All right.
		All right, Barb, hold tight.
		We're coming to the bottom of the hour.
unidentified		Everybody can take a little deep breath.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		This has really been quite a night.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		One of the best we've ever done.
unidentified		I call it dead air.
		Stay right there.
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art bell ▲ ● ▼		Top of the morning, probably, for the majority of you out there.
		Dead air underway for the, well, now only minutes away from Halloween, and in many, many locations listening to me right now, it is Halloween.
		Let's quickly go to Robert on Skype and say hi.
unidentified		Hi, Ert.
unidentified		Loud World.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
		Back just away a little bit.
		You're loud.
unidentified		Oh, sorry.
unidentified		How's this?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Better?
unidentified		Okay, cool.
		Anyways.
		Me and my cousin, we usually go to a position.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Robert, again.
		Robert, you and I have to have a talk.
		This call isn't going to work.
		You've called me about six times now, still not having fixed whatever it is going on.
		I'm so sorry with your audio, but you're going to have to work on that.
		Here's what I recommend.
		There is a Skype Echo server, Robert, and you can call it, talk to it, and it will play back your audio, and then you'll hear what your audio is doing.
		I'm terribly sorry we can't get you on.
		I really, truly am.
		But you've tried that about half dozen times now with the same setup, and it's just not going to do the job.
		So try the Skype Echo.
		It will work for you.
		It's pretty cool anyway.
		So let's try this one on Skype.
		Hello.
unidentified		Hello?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Do you have a ghost story for us?
unidentified		Am I on the air?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You are.
unidentified		Okay, great.
unidentified		Boy, do I have a good one for you?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Go ahead.
unidentified		Alrighty, just a little bit of background.
		I am a musician, and one of my friends is also a musician, and he was playing for a wedding not too far from where I live.
		So what ended up happening was, you know, he finished the wedding, he finished the gig, and a couple of the people there invited him to have a drink.
		So he said, okay, well, let me just have a short beer, but I have to get back home because I have my wife and kids waiting for me.
		So, you know, time passed by and he ended up leaving like at 2 o'clock in the morning.
		So he checked his phone.
		His wife had called him like 20 times.
		So he knew he was in trouble.
		So what ended up happening was this guy got into his car and he was going 90 miles per hour on a 60 mile per hour road.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh my.
unidentified		And he said, you know what?
		Well, it's like 2 o'clock in the morning.
		You know, there's no cops around.
		So let me just go ahead and just, you know, go real quick and, you know, try to get back home because my wife is going to lay the hammer on me.
		So what ended up happening was all of a sudden he saw a couple of signal lights from a cop.
		So he was all like, oh man, you know, like I'm going to get home late and I'm going 90 miles per hour on the 60 mile per hour road.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Might not get home at all in that situation.
unidentified		Okay.
		Yeah.
		So what ended up happening was the cop ended up shining like this big bright light like they always do.
		But he said that for some reason when the cop asked him to put on the window, he felt a cold shiver.
		So what ended up happening was the cop, you know, told him, hey, why were you going so fast?
		He said, well, I just got out of a gig and I'm supposed to be home at 10 o'clock, but it's 2 o'clock in the morning and I want to get back to my house.
		So the cop ended up telling him, you know what?
		Well, you were going 90 on the 60, so I'm going to have to give you a ticket.
		I mean, there's no other way you could have killed someone.
		So he's like, okay, just go ahead and give me the ticket.
		I just want to get home.
		So, you know, he ended up writing him the ticket and everything.
		And he said, you know what?
		Just be very careful out here because there might be like a whole bunch of killers out on the road or whatever.
		So just drive safe and lock your doors.
		So he ended up going, you know, back home.
		The next day, he said, you know what, I'm going to go ahead and pay the ticket.
		So he went down to the, you know, to go pay the ticket.
		And the lady up front said, well, what are you here for?
		Well, I'm going to pay a ticket because I was going this much over the speed limit.
		So she checked the ticket and she said, okay, well, let me go ahead and just verify something real quick.
		So for some reason, he said that they're taking a long time.
		And he said, is everything okay?
		And they're like, yeah, yeah.
		But we're wondering who gave you this ticket?
		So he said, well, there was this cop last that gave me a ticket.
		And, you know, it was like 3 o'clock in the morning or 2 o'clock.
		So she's like, okay.
		Well, she got really upset.
		And she said, sir, are you joking with me?
		Because you could get arrested for giving a fake ticket.
		So he's like, no, no, actually, I mean, a cop actually wrote a ticket out for me for going 30 miles over.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Let me guess.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's a cop that had died, perhaps even on that road.
unidentified		The cop had been dead since 1972.
		Reason for him coming out in that road is because one time he pulled over a guy that had just committed murder and he was trying to escape.
		So the cop told him to come out of this car.
		And as soon as he kind of got a little bit comfortable, he turned around.
		The guy ended up stabbing him to death.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, God.
unidentified		Yeah.
unidentified		Do you guys take that from a cop that had been dead since 1972?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Not only that, but that cop's out there patrolling the same road again and again.
		Oh, God.
		And he wrote out a ticket and they had the proof of it.
		Barb, did you hear that one?
barbara mcbeath ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I guess it's all around us, life and death.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Let's quickly do number 21.
barbara mcbeath ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		You remember the Stock Exchange building where the drowning episode took place?
		This was from the second time we had visited and investigated this building.
unidentified		Right.
barbara mcbeath ▲ ● ▼		You are going to hear, I think it's Brendan.
		He says, okay, this is our second recording from the building.
		We are now getting ready to leave.
		And an EVP is recorded here and it says, it's dead.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's dead, okay.
unidentified		Okay, this is our second recording from here.
		We are now getting ready to leave.
		It's hot.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yikes.
unidentified		Do you think...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, the other recording you mentioned was...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, my.
barbara mcbeath ▲ ● ▼		That's the same building.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So maybe it was referring to that situation, I wonder.
barbara mcbeath ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
		I don't know.
		But that's the building where that other one was.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		We're woefully short on time here, and I'm just committed to trying to get these in.
		Those never heard ever on the radio.
		So number 22.
barbara mcbeath ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		You're going to hear me talking about another EVP in this.
		You're going to hear me talking about how the quality was, and I'm saying you can tell he's real quiet and draggy, and it sounds like it hurts him to talk.
		And this EVP was recorded, and it says, we can talk.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		We can talk.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, here we go.
unidentified		And then he thinks, yeah, he's so draggy and quiet and tired of her to talk.
		Who's trying to talk?
		Who's trying to talk?
		Who's trying to talk?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's unnervingly clear.
barbara mcbeath ▲ ● ▼		That was recorded in the house that we rented for several years.
barbara mcbeath ▲ ● ▼		It was quite active.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, how, I guess for you, lucky.
barbara mcbeath ▲ ● ▼		I thought so, but my husband Roger didn't.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I would imagine not.
		I'm with Roger all the way.
		One more time.
		That was freaky.
unidentified		You think that was so draggy and quiet and tired of her sitting at the top?
		It was kind of a moment.
		It was kind of a moment.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yikes.
		Yeah.
		I don't know about that.
		Obviously, they can talk.
		It's a rarity, I suppose, but apparently they can.
		All right.
		Hold tight, Barbara, for just a second.
		Let me see.
		Like one-armed paper hanger here.
		Let's go to how about this one?
		You're on the air.
unidentified		Hello.
		Hi, good evening, Art.
		This is Millie.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi, Millie.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How are you?
unidentified		I'm doing good.
		Love the show tonight.
		And I want to give a quick shout out to the Art Bell Time Travelers on Facebook.
		And we have a quick question, and I will get you my story real quick.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, question.
unidentified		At the beginning of the show, before the first EVP came out, There was a spliced voice that came in while the two of you were talking, and we don't think you heard it.
		We all heard it.
		Did you hear it?
		No.
		You're going to have to go back and listen to it.
		It was like right around the beginning, the first couple of EVPs.
		I think it was right before the first one.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Well, I can listen.
		I can go into my.
		You know, I'm a time traveler, believe me, so I will go and I will listen, I promise.
unidentified		All right.
		We thought you were haunted.
		Okay.
		Now, back in California, we lived in a haunted apartment.
		A man had killed his girlfriend in there, and we knew it was haunted.
		You know, weird things happened in it.
		And we had these two friends that had been together forever.
		We took them over to our ex-brother-in-law's house for a barbecue.
		Well, she kind of got a hankering towards him.
		And, you know, we didn't say anything to the man.
		His name is Ron.
		And he was over drinking one day with us.
		And we had this table that my husband made by hand.
		It was a very strong table.
		You could jump up and down on it, and it wouldn't move.
		And he was talking about his girlfriend.
		And we kind of lied about it.
		And every time we would lie, one of the legs started bending out.
		I noticed it.
		My husband noticed it.
		And we tried to change the subject.
		You know, it hadn't fallen over yet.
		It took about a half an hour.
		And within that half an hour, that leg bent out to the point where the table actually fell over.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, my.
unidentified		My husband picked it up.
		Now, the leg was from another table.
		It had a screw in the center of the leg, and it was attached to a table bracket.
		The bracket had a rip on the inside, so the leg kind of slanted out, which made them really strong.
		Do you know what I'm talking about?
		Yes, but how it would bend, no, no, no, no.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I don't know about that at all.
unidentified		And the screw was not bent.
		He put it back in, and it was fine.
		That table lasted for years, and it never did it again.
		But the more we lied about him, about where she was, the more that thing bent until the leg, until the table fell over.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Usually it's a nose growing, not a table bowing.
unidentified		I think the lady that got in there was telling us, don't do it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		At least I had a laugh tonight.
		Thank you so very, very much for that story.
		My goodness, folks.
		All right.
		Let's go back over here and say, Barbara, you're back on the air again today.
		That was quite a story, wasn't it?
unidentified		That was great.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, we're way short on time.
		I'm determined to get to the last two, so let's do it.
		Number 23.
barbara mcbeath ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		We were at a bed and breakfast place.
		It's a big mansion that they've turned into a bed and breakfast in Salt Lake.
unidentified		Right.
barbara mcbeath ▲ ● ▼		And the woman that was on staff that night, she was showing us around and she said there was this little table by the office that she sat in.
		And she's looking at this book that had pictures of the original homeowners of this mansion.
		And she said, you're going to hear her say, this is, yeah, this was the main guy.
		It's Dr. Edward Woodruff and his wife.
		And then this EVP says, very feisty.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Very feisty, really.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's a new one.
unidentified		Yeah, this is the main guy.
		It's not the right word.
		We're done.
		Why?
		Where is Schweinstein?
		Wow.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The unusual things that come from the other side.
		It's just...
		Very feisty.
barbara mcbeath ▲ ● ▼		And it makes you wonder, did he know Dr. Ed Woodruff's wife?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
unidentified		That's right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
		Last one.
		Last one, Barb.
barbara mcbeath ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		This is Utah Cemetery.
		And it was the cemetery that we've gotten so many great EVPs from.
		This voice, we recorded him many times in the first couple of years that we would go there.
		Really?
		Or there were several of them that had the same voice.
		But anyway, you're going to hear, we were discussing a voice that was previously recorded that said A Company when a military headstone was being read aloud.
		And Roger was relating this and erroneously said Company A, real proud.
		You'll hear Roger say that.
		And I recorded this voice repeating him, Company A. So, okay, here we go.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Wow.
		Wow, that's a real wow.
		So, and also very clear.
		So this is a military man very, very proud of Company A. One more time.
		Company A. Company A. From the other side, that's actually one of the best ones I've ever heard.
		And you can hear in this military man's voice that he's very, very proud of the fact that he's Company A one last time.
unidentified		Company A. Company A. Ha, ha, ha, ha.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I would say that was uttered in a proud military manner.
barbara mcbeath ▲ ● ▼		I would agree.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, Barb, it has been unusually amazing tonight, a mixture that we've done, and I don't know how to thank you for doing this.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I know it took a very great deal of prep on the part of my producer and working with you, and then to be able to mix it with some of the greatest stories we've ever had on a show of this sort.
barbara mcbeath ▲ ● ▼		Great stories tonight.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, absolutely great stories.
		So I want to thank you and all of the GIS, but especially Barbara, who stuck it out with us on what's about to become Halloween.
		Thank you, dear lady.
barbara mcbeath ▲ ● ▼		Thank you very much, Bar.
barbara mcbeath ▲ ● ▼		Always a pleasure.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Good night.
		That's Barbara.
		She's really something.
		Really, really something.
		Thank you all.
		I wish we, you know, the lines are stacked.
		I wish we could get you all in, but this is now only a three-hour show.
		So we have to stop when we have to stop.
		I hope all the little ones enjoy their candy gathering for the morrow.
		And be it safe, please.
		From the high desert to all 25 time zones out there, dead air says good night.

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