Dr. Michael Lynch explores Tabby’s Star (KIC 8462852), where NASA researchers hint at a possible alien megastructure with up to 50% confidence, though SETI’s Seth Shostak dismisses the odds due to the lack of detectable signals. Lynch, a parapsychologist with 27 years of experience, uses Canon SP30 infrared cameras to capture "orbs"—plasma energy forms retaining human or animal consciousness—like the entity that allegedly burned a man’s arm with 17 claw marks from the inside out. He ties lingering ghosts to genetic frequencies, unresolved trauma, or electromagnetic fields, such as the Bird Cage haunting in Tombstone, Arizona, where an entity choked a tourist and communicated via unconnected speaker wires. Lynch warns that hospitals and haunted sites like prisons may harbor trapped entities, with forgiveness and Faraday shielding as potential solutions, while callers describe eerie encounters—scratch marks on children, shadow figures, and spirit box transmissions in non-English languages, suggesting a deeper, unexplained connection between consciousness and quantum energy. [Automatically generated summary]
All right, so like a dog with a bone, I'm not going to give this up, and I should not.
The Washington Post ran the story called The Strange Star that has serious scientists talking about an alien megastructure, right?
Now, these scientists, two of them, Tabitha Boyajan and Jason Wright at Penn State, absolutely for years went through every bit of data they could collect and one by one slowly eliminated every single possibility they could think of before they uttered the word alien.
That's right, the word alien.
This star is almost 1,500 light years away.
Not quite, but almost.
It has been obscured at times between 10 and 22 percent.
To give you an idea of how obscure that is, when I say obscured, you know, the light has been obscured by something on a very radic but predictable basis.
And they actually have come up with theories about what it might be, and they certainly know what it isn't.
If you take Jupiter and you put it in front of this star, it would reduce the light by 1%.
So what on God's green earth could reduce it by that much at any time of day?
And they made multiple observations.
One of the things that they came up with as a theory is something called a Dyson sphere, which is an alien civilization that would be so advanced that they would put up something that would obscure to us the light of a star while harnessing the power of a star.
That would make it, according to Michio Kaku, a type 2 civilization.
Almost everybody is very, very excited about this.
Dr. Kaku said, if it's true, it'll be the story, the most important story in 500 years.
I still question that number.
Seems like it would be a bigger number.
I think it might, you know, if it was actually an alien civilization, if that's what it comes down to, and believe me when I tell you, these scientists don't utter the word alien easily.
Not easily at all.
They think about their family.
They think about their careers.
They think about the rest of their life before they ever say the word alien.
So I take it very seriously.
I've been getting regular word from inside NASA that they also are now, after looking at the data, taking it very seriously.
And they are up to 50% or better in confidence that it's real.
It is what they say it is.
In other words, they look at the data and they come to the same conclusions.
Well, I can never claim that I don't have moments of delirium.
I don't know that it was delirium.
You know, that's kind of a judgment, Carl, whether it's as important as the WoW signal.
In the end, the WOW signal has never been proven to be artificial.
But on the other hand, I will say this, that it's certainly exciting in the same way that the WOW signal was, because it looked like a very tantalizing indication that maybe we had some cosmic company.
I mean, you know, that's not my area of, if you will, I can't tell amateur astronomers what to look at.
They'll look at whatever they want to look at.
But on the other hand, if you have a newly discovered, intriguing phenomenon in the heavens, you know, who wouldn't want every telescope in the world that can be, if you will, corralled into looking at it to look at it, because you might learn something.
One of the things I was contemplating, and obviously you were at about the same time, was 15 light years or just short of that amount.
That's how far away it is.
And I started wondering, radio signals, radio signals, let's see.
There is a, I believe even in space, there is a calculation for, in other words, if they begin at a certain wattage or power as they go out from Earth, kind of, if you remember the beginning of contact where, you know, the radio and TV signals were slowly fading as they pulled back and pulled back and pulled back.
That was a perfect demo because, you know, it's a matter of energy and distance.
Well, if the Dyson sphere thing is right, and of course it's just, you know, theoretical, I understand that, but should that actually be the case, then they were manipulating the power of the star 1,500 years ago.
And when you look at our rate of increase technologically in the last 50 years, say, and project 1,500 years out, gee, they must be wizards by now.
Well, you know, indeed, in 1,500 years, we've gone from, I don't know, bows and arrows to something a little more powerful.
I'm sure that if they're still around, if, to begin with, if there's anybody there, if this is really the indications of a society, a civilization there, then, yeah, unless they've somehow wiped themselves out or they were wiped out before we even made these observations, before that light even left there, yeah, I mean, you're looking at their history.
Now, again, I wonder if you've heard any of this, Seth, that from inside NASA, really, I'm getting these very good leads and these links saying, Seth, they're looking, NASA's looking at all of this data, and they're beginning to come to the same conclusion, that there's nothing left to say except the A-word.
To begin with, in order to see these dips in the light coming from the star, and that's what this story is all about.
It's just a star.
It's a little bit bigger than the sun.
It's the sun's, if you will, bigger, older brother.
It's 50% larger than the sun, so it's maybe four or five times brighter than the sun.
Anyhow, in order to see anything happening to that star, such as these big dips in its brightness, this dimming, you need a telescope that can measure the brightness of the Star and measure it every minute or more often.
One of its stabilizing gyroscopes, if you will, failed more than a year ago now.
And so it's in a completely different mode now.
And it's not really able to look at this.
So when you say, hey, there's new data suggesting that this is good evidence for an alien civilization, I don't know where those data could come from because this is something you really can't do from the ground too easily.
Although these dips are so big, maybe you could.
But I'm not aware of any new data.
I should point out, I don't want to rain on a parade here, but if you look at the paper that announced these dips, and it was just published, I don't know, a week or two ago.
I just want to point out to listen to that the guys who wrote this paper didn't ever in there mention the possibility that this was anything other than natural phenomena.
And that's important to keep in mind because some people will remember back in the 1960s, some astronomers in England found a pulsing radio source in the sky, which they immediately termed little green men.
But the discovery paper doesn't say anything about that.
The discovery paper has a long laundry list of possible explanations for what's going on here.
And they're all natural.
Look, nobody knows what it is.
It isn't to say it couldn't be alien megastructures.
But on the other hand, that's, you know, I don't know any astronomers who would say that's the favorite explanation because there's a long, long history in which you come across something you don't understand right away, and the first reaction is always to say, you know, Bob, I don't know what that is, so it must be aliens.
One more, I want to enlarge on the question I asked about the radio signals, and that is your chance of actually hearing anything.
Because radio is so attenuated, as it goes across light years and light years, what are the chances of us actually, even if they are aliens, Seth, hearing anything by radio?
As you pointed out, 1,500 light-years away, typically, when we do our SETI experiments, when we're trying to eavesdrop on alien transmitters, we're looking at stars that are often 100 times closer than that.
Well, 100 times closer means the signals would be 10,000 times stronger.
Okay, so if they're broadcasting radio, the only way we're going to hear them, I mean, if there's anybody there, let me preface things with that, but if this is really the evidence of some sort of society there, the only way we would hear the signals is if, A, they have really powerful transmitters.
And, you know, who's to say what they've got?
I mean, it doesn't violate physics for them to have really powerful transmitters.
But they'd have to have transmitters if they're broadcasting in all directions.
You know, they don't know where receivers might be.
If they were broadcasting in all directions, they would need transmitters on the order of 10 trillion watts, trillion watts, for us to pick up with the Island Telescope Array.
So that's a lot.
But on the other hand, if they're building a big mega structure, a big Dyson swarm of solar power collectors, they've got the 10 trillion watts.
So that's one possibility.
The other possibility is if for some reason, and I can't think of any, for some reason they're directing their radio signals toward us.
That doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me because, you know, what's special about us?
If they are using the kind of power that you talked about, harnessing a sun, it seems to me they're doing something that would make a lot of electromagnetic noise.
Now, I could be wrong about that, but if you detected a bigger noise floor, a bigger noise level, as opposed to when you pull away from that star compared to everything else, that would be something, wouldn't it?
That's exactly what you look for, too, by the way.
What you do is you essentially look at a big chunk of the radio dial as much as you can, and you say, hey, look, over this range of frequencies, there's more, if you will, cosmic static coming in.
It's not a matter of saying, you know, what are they saying?
Are they tapping out Morse code or anything like that?
It's just you're saying somebody's got a transmitter there.
So they're making more radio energy, more power in a particular spot on the radio dial.
If you found that, you would say, that's not natural.
The old spark transmitters, which I think you're referring to here more than a hundred years ago, they're the very earliest radio transmitters in the 1890s and so forth.
They did make radio waves, and they made radio waves that made noise all over the band, just the way a bolt of lightning does.
But as soon as you learn a little bit about radio engineering, you stop doing that because you're paying for all those kilowatt hours to make signals that are all over the dial, whereas, in fact, you want them at a specific point on the dial because you get more information that way.
So I don't think that they're using spark transmitters, but of course, they didn't send me any email about what they're using, if they're using anything at all.
So what I'm getting at here is, even if we don't get a specific signal, as it were, and we may or may not, who knows, but an increased noise flirt might indicate an active civilization doing God knows what.
I don't know what a lot means, but it is certainly the case for us.
I mean, just to give us an example, because I know about us, we normally are using the Allen Telescope Array to survey nearby star systems.
We think, okay, these are good candidates for possibly having habitable planets.
Well, obviously we put that on hold.
I mean, those guys, it's time out for that.
And we have spent most of the past 10, 12 days looking over and over again, by the way, over the wide range of frequencies that we can tune to with our antennas.
And at the moment, the data are being reduced.
And I figured that within a week, those data will be online and everybody can take a look.
Others say they doubt the study, but there you go.
First item on the NBC News tonight, meat's going to kill you.
Well, I'm already 70.
So I'm going to take my chances.
I've always enjoyed my meat.
That's not going to change.
Listen, something is going on I want to make you aware of because it's dangerous.
Russian submarines and spy ships are now aggressively operating near the vital undersea cables that carry almost all the global internet communications from point A to B to C and so forth and so on.
You have no idea there are.
You could go around the world many times if you put those cables together.
They are vital to the Internet.
And Russian subs, Russian ships are now hovering over these points.
Maybe it's some kind of Russian exercise.
Maybe they want to tap our lines.
And God, I hope they don't want to cut our lines.
So know that that's going on.
This warm period since the decline and fall of the Soviet Union really is beginning to cool off a lot.
And of course, we're sending a carrier into the area of the Chinese self-made islands, and that's probably going to be okay, but if it goes wrong, it goes really wrong.
If they shoot at us, well, that would be really bad.
We are actually just beginning with our guest, Michael Lynch, Ph.D., has been a parapsychologist for 27 years.
Throughout his career, he has investigated ghosts, poltergeist activity, UFOs, and ancient civilizations.
That's a lot to take on.
Dr. Lynch uses a digital infrared video system and the latest technology to capture evidence of the paranormal.
Now, over the past 14 years, he has hosted Paranormal Tuesday at 97.1 mm in St. Louis, has been on the Discovery Channel, Sci-Fi, Fox, Family, ABC Family, Destination America Channel, the National Geographic Channel, appearing on shows like Scariest Places on Earth, MTV Fear, and Is It Real?
He has also appeared in Shadow Worlds, The Haunted Boy, Children of the Grave 2, and the Soul Catcher documentaries.
I'm getting so old now, I can't remember how I got started in this field.
I was at a used bookstore, and there was a book by Lloyd Auerbach.
It was like how to investigate ghosts or something like that.
I forgot exactly.
And he wrote a couple of chapters on some of his older cases and some of the methods he used.
And I read that book, and I sit back and I thought, you know, why is it that no one really, you know, like jumps the fence and looks into this a little bit more?
You know, Barry Taft had done the entity case, very popular.
Lloyd Auerbach came out, published several books.
Bill Roll came out, did several television documentaries.
There's several guys on the East Coast that have come out and have been studying for a long time.
They just didn't have the equipment at the time, I guess.
And then about 93, 94, the Russian military, the Russia went bankrupt.
And so there was a whole new plethora of infrared equipment suddenly flooded certain markets.
And I had a friend who could access those markets.
And we started looking at that technology.
Now, it wasn't till another three more years till we actually developed a lighting system that would go with a certain type of camera that we could actually start seeing what we saw was energy plasma, a plasma form of energy.
And then as the cameras became higher and higher resolution, we're up to 700 lines, almost HD, we can now see these things very clearly with the proper lights and the proper frequency of light.
And we can see these things now as clear as possible.
Now we cannot see them with the human eye because our equipment, even though it can go into UV, we go toward the infrared.
Because it has an energy signature that reveals itself, and that is what we're after.
A 10-watt light bulb has a glow signature just like, you know, similar to 100, but we can tell by the basic density of the light that it is a different type of entity.
In other words, you've seen something go from an energy state, whatever that is, a cloud, an orb, or whatever, and form into the image of a human being.
Now, again, there is another side to this, which we'll get into maybe a little bit later, but not all orbs are humans, and not all ghosts are from this planet.
You know, there are entities that are animals, and then there are entities that are just not from this planet.
Yeah, all mammals, as far as we know, because of rapid eye movement and memory, all mammals, and maybe some birds, we just anticipate that they have an afterlife.
There is an afterlife for them.
Now, what do they remember?
They remember that they were a dog, and so their memory is that of a dog.
I investigated a house.
You know, this was just a basic, you know, average neighbor house, and they had a dog, and the dog died.
But days after the dog died, they still heard the footprints or the nails of the feet of the dog clamor around on their kitchen tile.
And so they knew their dog was still there.
I had another friend who had a cat, and this cat was very old, outlived most of the others, you know, cats by the longevity was just extreme.
That cat died, and then suddenly the owner, maybe this is a phantom memory, but actually heard the cat who normally slept on the staircase meow.
And we would put up the little antennas, and these things would go to 100, 200 millivolts.
So this was electrons in the atmosphere that had been activated.
Now, when we turned on our video equipment, when we got that perfected, we could see these balls of energy, these orbs, flying by our electronic equipment, and it was giving us an electron output.
So that means this energy is buffering, or it's flying through the air, but it has to move through electrons.
And the audio guy is sitting there with the best brand new equipment that radio can afford.
And we're standing in a circle in the living room, and we are debating our next point of strategy, which was probably not a good idea that we should do.
And in the background, you hear an elderly woman's voice as clear as day as if she's standing right there in the middle of us.
And she says, and she says in a very elderly voice, she says, no, I don't want you to do that.
Go downstairs.
Now, she says that as clear, but she's not talking to us, even though we're talking about going back downstairs and doing another full-blown investigation with video equipment, audio equipment, still photography, and things like that.
So she is talking to another entity.
She is talking to another entity while we're talking about going back down and rethinking our strategy.
In the first picture, there's probably some orbs, and they're in a digital, we call a digital echo, meaning the orb is moving so fast that it leaves its footprint throughout the photo.
You see it three times because it's a digital echo.
It's just moving toward him.
Now, he's looking down at his hand in the first photograph because this orb, I know we agree to disagree, is attacking him under or through his clothes.
And you zoom in.
I zoomed in on the orb to make sure that it was a solid structure.
And then he pulls back his sleeve and he has these scratches.
And he is the nicest gentleman you ever want to meet.
He would go the extra mile for anyone.
He's just that kind of guy, and he seems to be the one getting attacked.
Now, I'm doing this.
I've done this crossing my fingers a long time.
I've never been attacked.
Maybe it's just because I haven't been in the way.
Or that, you know, whatever it was just kind of left me alone for reasons.
But whatever this plasma is, if it's consciousness, human consciousness, it has the ability to affect our world.
Now during that investigation, there was something to do with a Barbie doll.
Okay, it was the little girl's Barbie doll.
She kept it with her all the time.
Well, we set it up as like a trap or something.
Not a trap, but we put it out to see if it would move or these entities would do anything with it.
Well, while we're setting this up on a little table with some of the other toys that the little girl would play with, all of a sudden we hear on EVP a growl.
As soon as the flash could recharge, it was just like one second, two seconds, one second, two seconds.
As fast as the flash could recharge.
There is a series of cameras which we use.
It's a Canon class.
It's called the Sport Shot or SP30, SP40, SP50.
We use those and those have the best flash for them.
After that series, the chip, the encoded chip, started to change and they started not to produce these anomalies because the flash on the cameras changed.
Now, if you do capture an orb, okay, it will have what we call a digital echo because the orb is moving.
It's moving.
So the digital camera can't make a blurry picture, technically.
Technically, it's designed not to make a blurry picture.
But on a speeding object that's moving incredibly fast and burning through electrons in the air, the camera, through the flash, absorbs the flash, and then what it sees is this multitude of digital echoes.
So I have this friend, he's over in Kansas City, and he goes, you know, every time I take a picture in a haunted house, I get this dust, and it's just all over.
And I go, dude, that's like, there's not 40 ghosts there, but there's like five.
And you can actually blow them up and look at their unique signature or their thumbprint.
And we can see by eliminating through contrast and brightness, not through any other form, just by contrast and brightness, we can actually see which is an echo and which is a solid form, because we're looking at its density, its opacity of brightness.
The less bright it is, the more of the echo it is.
And you can see them in different sizes, shapes, structures, contours.
That's why the anatomy of these things are so unique.
And once you recognize it and recognize that it's interacting with you, then we're not in Kansas anymore.
I've had countless people come on, including EVP researchers, who say, look, whatever you were in life, if you're on the other side, you're the same thing.
If you were a grouch and a mean person, you're a grouchy mean ghost.
Many, many, many people say there is a heaven and there is a hell and there may be in-between spots and that a ghost is simply an entity that has not yet moved on.
I cannot find what he finds, but this is an oddity.
I don't know how much time we've got.
I'll just throw this out real quick.
There is a ghost walk in St. Charles.
The gentleman who gives the tour is a very good friend of mine, and he goes from site to site and talks about ghosts that may inhabit this place.
Well, when I, he was with a tour from Canada.
I did not know them.
They did not know me.
And I'm sitting there filming this group as they walk down the street to go from location to location.
I see a unique orb traveling with this group.
And now I'm sitting there going, wait a minute, one of these people has either A, a guardian angel, B, a relative that has died recently and still connected to them, or C, unknown.
Since you know so much about the other side and there's a process.
See, how can I put this?
Does a ghost, after a period of time, find their way, or does their lack of faith, I guess would be a way to put it, that you claim keeps them here in the first place, have an opportunity to change and have them move on, or are they eternally here?
And boy, have I heard a lot about this with respect to ghosts.
It seems to me, and a lot of people have noticed loops.
In other words, in a house that's haunted or near a haunted area, the ghost appears to do the same thing again and again and again and again.
And to me, that's either not associated with consciousness as we understand it, or it's hell, because to be condemned to do the same thing again and again and again is hell.
But anyway, I went on the tour there and we saw several ghosts there.
I proved all of their artifacts that were there.
Now, at the end of the tour, we had a little seance.
All right.
Well, there is an entity in the birdcage, in Tombstone, that can try to somehow communicate through a speaker, a stereo speaker that has no connection.
It's just bare wires at the end of it.
There's a speaker sitting there, and you'll hear this static come across it.
This is the entity shorting out the speaker wires and applying just enough current to it that it actually sounds like static interference and it's not plugged into anything.
And she claims that she had seen several full-blown-bodied entities early in the morning at that location, walking around like they owned the place, dressed in clothing from a period a hundred years ago.
Now, she was leading the tour.
She was convinced it's haunted, and she can hear, she's some type of audio cleric, where she can hear the voices.
And there is this one that remains there at the birdcage, and he's either Timothy or Timmy.
I can't, I don't remember which.
But anyway, we were having the seance, and I had my equipment there, and I noticed one entity, but hang around.
There was another one that attacked a gentleman who was sitting across from me.
And so we had to break the seance circle.
I picked up my equipment, and I watched as this orb, again, plasma, leave the back of his neck.
And then suddenly he lost all ability, neuromuscular ability in his throat to even say that he was in pain.
He was actually being choked or he felt like something was choking him.
Well, I'm watching this on my camera and I see this orb eject itself out of the back of his neck and even in different stages of slow motion, it was dramatic.
There was no physical cause because all of our hands, okay, there's no one there to choke him because all of our hands are connected.
But when I videotaped this, I realized that if that is Timmy or Timothy or whomever that is there was using him to try to communicate, use his vocal cords, however, through a neuromuscular sense.
Now, this guy, let me tell you a little bit about this guy.
He was a soldier.
He was going off to Afghanistan in 10 days.
And him and his girlfriend came down to go to the birdcage just as tourists.
So this guy is a straightforward, honest shooter.
It took me 30 minutes after that to calm him down, to try to tell him that it wasn't his fault that he was attacked, and he was attacked by an entity that he could not see or defend himself against.
And after that, he kind of said, okay.
And then he said, you know, in 10 days I'll be in Afghanistan.
So he was not, you know, a fly-by-night, excitable type.
Because it would have to be a stronger electromagnetic field than the plasma field that it is in.
So after you do these readings, you know, we decided that it was easier to keep an entity out by reversing certain polarities using a generator.
We could wire a room very similar like a cage or Faraday cage or whatever, and we could reverse the polarity and keep them out easier than we could ever keep them in.
Yeah, we've tried that, and the expense and the time and the coaxing became problematic.
And so we didn't really give up on it.
We actually have a design.
You know, it's like capturing anything in the analog world.
You just have to have the right design and you have to have some assistance.
So it was easier for us to...
And it's not belief.
Believe you me, it's not belief.
Some people say we can go on ghost hunts and we are never attacked.
Nothing ever happens to us.
And we just come back with a photo or whatever of a ghost or, you know, orb or whatever.
And I say, yes, that's fine.
But why aren't you possessed?
And they just look at me like they're like stunned.
They've never come across their mind before.
And I said, well, either two things.
The ghost didn't want to possess you, or you have some type of angelic guidance that is preventing you from being possessed.
And so we developed a suit.
It was kind of like a...
And what it is, it's very fine wiring that's built into some type of capacitor.
And as the entity drags electrons, because electrons really affect us in this reality, as they drag the electrons, the suit picks up the electrons and puts it in a capacitor.
We're just grounding them out using plain physics just to ground out their effect on us.
Now, this gets into a different field, but we had actually worked up the schematics for all this, and then it got to a point where we had to kind of enlist the help of a psychic because we were getting into a point of saying, you know, are we becoming adversarial?
I don't want to become adversarial.
I just want to be, you know, pleasant with these entities.
I don't want something to attack me that I can't see.
Yeah, well, after you worked with one for 20 years, you get to know them pretty well, and you get to know what they can do.
And so, once you get into what their specialty is, and they can pull information to you through that specialty, so if I hurt my knee, I don't go to a cardiac surgeon.
I go to a kinesiology guy who's going to tell me about my knee.
So you work with their ability, whatever that ability may be, to download information that you may be overlooking.
There might be a better way.
That's the idea of using a proper professional psychic is to save time, save money, and try to lock in on how this is all working out.
You know, as serendipity or synchronicity happens, I bumped into one, and she was just kind of, you know, a natural born.
She was naturally born.
This was the way she was all of her life.
She was a registered nurse.
She had become a certified hypnotherapist.
She had her own client base and things like this.
But she wasn't aggressively seeking clients.
So after a situation, a period of kind of getting used to each other's methods of operation, we realized, we realized very quickly that we had to double up.
So if I have one colleague who's a still photography specialist, someone else in the team had to become a specialist in still photography.
If someone was a video editor, an expert, someone else in the team had to, so we could always back each other up.
But when it came to the psychic situation, we only had one.
Now, we have the Max Planck Institute of how the universe is diagrammed.
And it looks exactly like the human brain's neural network.
Okay?
So the entire universe is electromagnetically connected, just like the human brain.
Not only just like, it is exactly like.
So if you're really telepathic, or if you're really psychic, you can jump on this galactic superhighway and go to your power station setting off 1500 light years away and tell you exactly what it is.
Why are we sending spaceships into space or whatever?
When if we had the right psychic, the right capability, even technical remote viewing has evolved to a certain extent.
We could be looking, NASA could say, here is the planet.
One, two, three, go.
And technical remote viewers come back with more data than ever.
I had a friend of mine who was a NASA scientist, worked on the space shuttle program, and we were on a radio show together.
And he pulled out the latest planet that NASA had found.
And it was just slightly larger than Earth.
But they could not figure out if it had life on it or what was going on.
Well, he laid it down on the table.
And I said, okay, I'll look at that.
So I have recently become a very good dowser.
And so I dowsed if our life could live on that planet.
And the answer was no.
Okay.
Then a few more questions later, it comes back that the sun in that solar system is giving off lethal radiation to our type of life form.
And that planet could not be colonized by us because we could not survive on the surface.
Let me give you the quick talk, and then we're going to begin to take some calls.
There are some people I know, Doctor, that are going to think you're a lunatic, absolutely crazy for thinking these things, and others not so much.
It depends, I guess, on what you believe.
So here we go.
My public number is Area Code 952-225-5278.
That's Area Code 952-225-5278.
Not so much a lunatic, though, if you look at the photographs that he's got.
That's pretty telling stuff.
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I know there's a lot of people out there that look at orbs and believe in orbs, and I have not been one of them.
But I must say, what the doctor has captured on film here seems to me to be a very different sort of animal.
Now, I had my producer look, Doctor, for the sound you talked about, I think it was sort of a grunt or a scream you mentioned that was on your website.
Yeah, but next time, if we do another show on EVPs, I'll definitely get their permission and we'll run some EVPs.
There's another thing about this.
We were doing an investigation, and I was shooting off some photography, and I caught a couple of orbs.
And immediately I took the microphone, which was a wireless microphone, during this show, and I raised it up to the air, and I said, if there's anyone in the room who would like to talk to us, go right ahead, and now's your opportunity.
And, well, everybody got upset because they thought I was hogging the show.
And when they played the tape back, there were two voices on the recording exactly.
So those dust specs were talking to me, which I don't think so.
I also believe that when a person dies, it seems as though their presence or whatever they are, their soul, seems to remain in the area for a certain amount of time, typically three or four days, and then they do move on.
It was, I don't know, weeks before I actually began doing this program in July that I'll describe to you briefly.
And you can make of it what you will.
I was working, and this is why he mentioned what he mentioned.
I was working late at night on my computer, and I was doing research for this show coming up.
You know, I knew I was about to be on the air in July.
So, sitting in my computer for hours, late at night, after my family had long gone to bed, hours and hours in front of that computer, looking up stories and things.
And all of a sudden, on my right, I saw what was a human figure shape, Doctor.
And it startled me really badly.
It scared me.
And it blinked away, and I looked behind me.
Why, I don't know, but there it was behind me.
At this point, I'm terrified.
I mean, really terrified.
I swung back to the left, and oh my God, it's right there to the left of me.
And then gone.
And it really didn't have appendages to it, but it was a human form.
Head, torso, something where the leg should be.
I don't know what this thing was.
I call it a shadow person.
I guess we can call it whatever you want to call it.
If it was, it would be able to, at that size of energy, to memorize this entire body, should be able to move something, it should be able to reappear and at later dates be interactive, be more interactive.
Now you have some wanderers that just wander through the neighborhood and they just move on.
Okay, well, so, Doctor, they can project themselves, if they can project themselves to a recorder and become an EVP, then it seems to me they could project themselves to the radio, to the radio spectrum if they wanted to, right?
There are something like a police scanner that scans hundreds of frequencies.
And you can run this apparatus and it will start to scan.
And when it hits a frequency, you may get several words.
You may get a couple.
I've seen this apparatus actually work.
They call different names, the ghost box or ghost antenna and things like that.
And as it scans, you'll actually be able to pick up certain conversations.
Other people have tried to narrow in the frequencies, but sometimes they change per entity to entity.
There is something called, I forget what the name of it is, is some triangle out east.
And if you drive through it, you'll see apparitions alongside the road.
Sometimes they're Native American Indians or they're the red coats, you know, from a different time.
There is also the ancient story of Resurrection Mary, where she comes out of the cemetery in Chicago, and she'll be walking alongside the road, and people will pick her up, think she's absolutely real, deliver her, and she disappears.
Okay, Dodger, it's not that I want to see anything.
Thank you very much.
However, it was my theory that staring at that computer screen for that long period of time affected me, that the refresh rate of the computer screen affected my brain after a while.
You would have to go to some place that's public and that advertises that they're haunted, and then you could take your equipment with you.
Like I said, sometimes a steel camera is better than a video camera if you don't have the right frequencies, but that's the way you kind of get started.
I don't recommend going to cemeteries, but at night they have certain restrictions, and I've been to several at night, and I don't get a lot of evidence.
I get more evidence walking down the street, like I got more evidence walking down the street of Tombstone, Arizona, than I did inside the birdcage.
Ever since 2000, we have, you know, and then prior to that, we experimented on frequencies in order to see this.
So we get into certain private matters, you might say, that, you know, I can't reveal names or locations, but we get into certain situations that don't make any sense to us.
But if you're just free-flowing energy and you're caught in the, you know, self-ridicule, self-hatred, you'll never break out.
You'll never break that loop.
And that's why when you go to these prisons, you go to these asylums, their minds can't forgive themselves.
Okay, well, apparently that is a good hunting location if you really want to find these things.
JN on Skype, hello.
unidentified
Hello, Art Bill.
This is Jeremy in Aranzas Pass.
Thanks for having me on.
Art Bill, I've been listening to you since 94, 95, and this is my first time to get to talk to you, so I'm really excited.
Mr. Dr. Lynch, great show tonight, man.
I'm really enjoying it a lot.
A quick little thing, and then I'll let you get on with some other people.
I'm sure there's plenty of people who like to talk to you.
When I was young, and we had this ranch out in Goliad, I used to wake up a lot of times with scratch marks all over my stomach.
Now, when I was a kid, I never told nobody that because I was more or less scared.
And I know it wasn't from playing or something like that, but I remember them being almost like five fingers, which you would notice, and they'd be like on my stomach and on my...
Did you feel it happen to you at the moment it happened, or only when you woke up did you see this stuff?
unidentified
Yeah, only when I woke up.
It was like, you know, I never felt it in the night, you know.
It was always like whenever I woke up the next day, and it was only when I went to the ranch.
It was only when I went up there and we spent the time at the ranch with my grandparents and stuff.
It never happened to me like at my house where we lived.
It was always only at the ranch.
And, you know, I know it wasn't from playing because I was a pretty careful kid.
You know, I would remember these scratches.
But I just remember him being, you know, the size of a hand and they would be on my stomach and they would be sometimes on my chest and even, I think, sometimes on my back.
But I would just like to get Mr. Lynch's retrospect on that.
I wanted to say, years ago, I took a class with a lady, and during the class, psyched class, she was talking about the fact that her father, she would go to the Akashic records at night for the class, and she said she'd always be her father who had passed.
He was a French soldier, and he had passed years before.
And he was laying there always with, looked like angels around him working on him.
And she'd see him every night, and they would reassure her he'd be all right.
And she told our class one time about it, and I just got kind of guided.
We'll work on him tonight by my guides.
And the next morning, when we went to our class, she said the most wonderful thing had happened.
She said he had come that night, and it's the only time he'd ever done it.
And he sat on her bed and said he was fine now.
And they conversed a little bit, and then he left.
And she said, I know he's fine.
And she said, I didn't see him laying there that night in the Akashic records on the way to the Akashic records.
So I think he probably needed to forgive himself for something that happened during the war is what she felt, too.
Yeah, the odd thing is that there's a lot of things that we talk about, like angels and miracles, and the Vatican has a whole room of these things.
We look at them very lightly, but at the same time, the energy to do this is out there.
And it's a medium, it's a matrix of energy that's fueling not only this reality, it's fueling this reality in a way that our conscious mind is looking at it.
And then we can alter it if we so desire.
So to have psychoanalysis on the other side with angels or superior beings or guides, I say absolutely.
I say, why not?
And we may be totally embarrassed once we get on the other side of our lifestyle or our lives or whatever, but at the same time, if we can forgive ourselves, accept this next life, then we are reimmers in that energy and we are reconnected on the same level.
So my energy is absorbed back in and all my memories come back.
I can go back to all my past lives, all my future lives, if I so desire.
It becomes infinite, infinite, infinite time, infinite space, because you're nothing but energy.
If we look at the process, even Einstein said, if you go to the speed of light, time stops.
Well, if you're just pure energy, electricity, if you're just pure electricity, you have no time, zero time.
It's when you drop out of that is when linear time.
So when you start looking at that and the infinite energy that's backing that up and how that connects to the genetic code in your body, the genetic matrix, then we start to see that we're interconnected.
We're in a medium of not sub we're in subatomic energy, we're in subatomic plasmas, and this is a benevolent, gentle energy.
Yeah, no, I hate to say that we were back in the Cold War, but there is a Russian scientist, a Russian biophysicist who's talking about molecular biology.
And he's talking about the DNA and how it resonates.
And that they think in Russia now that by using certain DNA frequencies, they can cure genetic.
We all, our DNA is resonating at frequencies related to our body, our genetic code, our genetic blueprint.
And the Russians think that they can use other frequencies, energy plasma frequencies probably, and they can correct DNA or manipulate DNA or genes at the cellular level.
So there's other people looking at this.
And if we're all resonating, that means we're harmonic.
Now, I was in Europe and I went to this museum for harps.
And I was just amazed at these harps.
And these people were playing these harps in a symphony.
Yeah, I'm going to actually have a guest on audio energy.
It's a very, very interesting subject.
Somebody named Chad's on Skype very quickly.
Hi.
unidentified
Hey, Art.
Hey, Doctor.
I'm calling from Vegas.
Quick question.
You see all of these shows on TV where these investigators are going out and they're investigating prisons and asylums and that type of thing, but none of them ever talk about the possible attachments that these ghosts or entities or whatever could attach to them and go home with them and cause havoc.
I can take my answer off the air, but what are your thoughts on that?
I think that I've been warning a friend who's using this program, this app, to find ghosts.
It's like, in my mind, it's like using a Ouija board.
You're going to invite something into your life and you're not sure what you're inviting into your life and you may not be able to un-invite it from your life.
In other words, once you get something hanging around you, you've said it yourself.
Those orbs, those energy balls, whatever they are, those spirits may not leave.
Once you invite them in, they may not leave like a bad guest at night.
How do you know, excuse me, how do you know something came with you?
unidentified
Well, I didn't know it at first.
It took some time for me to realize because I kept questioning myself and wondering why I would feel a certain way or these mood changes.
And it really wasn't until I was actually revisiting one of your shows with Malachi Martin.
And he was talking a lot about, you know, your mood and people who can, you know, feel energy or negative energy and those sorts of emotions that can take over, you know, even just with...
No, it just felt like, I mean, part of me is present, you know, like I am right now, but some of these emotions would come over me and I just was wondering where it was coming from.
And eventually, you know, I found out by meeting with a person who had a lot of, you know, I guess psychic ability and, you know, asked me questions.
And it took a lot of digging.
But when, you know, I found that out, it was a little scary.
It was like, you know, that ride at Disneyland where a ghost follows you home.
It took a lot of energy just to basically what it is, is, you know, we are all lights and we are all, you know, energy.
And I think what happened possibly is when someone isn't ready to go and they're, you know, in the hospital and, you know, they have that moment of being released from their body.
You know, they perhaps they're stuck there and they're trapped or maybe they're trying to find that light in other people and they attach to it.
There is always someone standing by, a relative, angel, whatever.
But sometimes they just can't give up that mortal coil.
And so they will attach to someone who is healing because the energy from the wound somewhat bleeds out to repair the skin, repair the body, and they can survive off of that.
I've got an interesting story is spooky that a friend of mine who's also a partner in my organization, she hypnotized a gentleman who had chronic shoulder pain.
She hypnotized him and pulled him kind of out of his body to look around psychically and notice that there was an attachment on his shoulder where he was receiving that pain.
And then she said, okay, if there's anyone from the other side who would like to come and get this attachment and take them to the other side, please do.
And then she asked the gentleman, what is happening now?
And he said, well, under hypnosis, he said, God called his name and he went into the light.
The man came out of hypnosis, didn't remember anything because she erases that memory.
So those kind of attachments are not only possible, but I mean, what if you work in a hospital, if you're a nurse or a doctor, how do you avoid such attachments?
But my partner in this is also a registered nurse.
So she's not only a registered nurse, she's also a registered hypnotherapist.
And so she works in the psychiatric ward of a major hospital here in St. Louis.
And she sees all types of abnormal behavior.
Now, some of it's controlled through chemicals and drugs, and others just requires a little bit of, you know, conditioning, you know, socialized conditioning.
But she says what we're up against on the other side is uncontrollable because we have to deal with it on its level.
So whatever level it's at.
So if it's cowering in fear or regret or dread, all that bleeds through.
And if that attaches to someone, then they're going to suffer that.
It's not a possession.
It's not a possession, but it does play with their mind.
If somebody calls you, I would imagine with the work you do, you would get calls from people distressed with an attachment or with a haunting or with, you know, do you get these calls?
I go over the trouble list, you know, the list of things do they have migraine headaches are they suffering from any chronic pain no what I mean is do you actually go to people we go yeah, we can go and investigate and get it on get evidence for them either audio or video or still photography hand it over to them and then say what would you like us to do because you're not crazy there is something in your house you know what would you like us to do and then I hand it over to the psychic the psyche calls in angels
unidentified
or whatever she needs to do and clears the house and I have seen this on video it the entities just sweep through and they don't come back okay going to Skype you're on the air with Dr. Lynch hi Roswell's art and hello there Dr. Lynch pleasure to have you on the program and to be listening tonight I just wanted to call in and sort of validate a previous caller's experience tuning
in through the radio and hearing what he said were sort of spirits or phenomena oh yes yes yes and those spirit boxes I'm telling you Art those things are 100% real.
They're valid.
I've heard dozens of hours and seen from dozens of different devices clear, concise communication, entire sentences long to direct questions.
I want to see, that's why I was impressed by the doctor's photographs tonight.
I want to see evidence, either photographic evidence or I want to hear it or whatever.
So if he's got actual, you said sentences, right?
unidentified
Yes.
Stephen Huff has whole sentences from dozens of different boxes, communications with dozens of spirits.
It's all up on YouTube, so it can all be validated.
But I have one quick question for the doctor in relation to these.
Sometimes these spirit boxes get used by people who are speaking in English, but they do it in countries where that's not the primary language, say in Mexico or someplace in Europe.
And they're still getting responses, even though they're in another language.
Would the doctor perhaps have a possible explanation as to why that's the case?
But I'm sure that if you had Japanese in America, just like these Canadians were in America, and the entity followed them here, they could easily be in America and converse with them in Japanese.
They could be with the family, not necessarily with the place.
But the rule of thumb is a person, place, or thing can be haunted or attached.
And I was just wondering if there's a way to either, you know, like on both sides of the spectrum, stay away from any kind of activity or maybe, I guess, invite any kind of activity if I want to, you know, just, yeah.
No, I'm of the content that no one wants another person's lifestyle imposed upon themselves.
So, no, I don't classify to invite it or do anything like that.
I don't even recommend them having a school.
These buildings like this that remain dormant clear across the country should be destroyed.
They should be destroyed.
Really?
And even though the entities would probably move on, they need to be cleared through some type of clergy or psyche to pass these people on, to pass them on so there's no residue of them occupying this space.