Art Bell’s MITD invites wild 30-year predictions, from Garrett (8), a Nevada homeschooler debating Minecraft passwords, to Ricardo, warning of U.S. economic collapse like the USSR—states splitting, gangs ruling, and brain chips replacing phones by 2054. Callers clash over Apophis asteroid (2036 impact), KIC 8462852’s alien megastructure, and whether extraterrestrials would disrupt faith or embrace free solar energy under Madonna’s "First Lady" rule. Unknown 606, blind after 20 years, rejects Google cars for a "modern-day Knight," while Unknown 604 shares eerie hand markings—"1600 IKE"—and WWI UFO tech lore. Bell muses on climate doom (coastal cities underwater by 2050) and the paradox of open lines shrinking three-hour shows into fleeting moments, leaving listeners to ponder humanity’s chaotic, speculative future. [Automatically generated summary]
Okay, so the rules of the road here are simple, and they are no bad language and one call per show.
And that's as far as our rules go.
Now, there are any number of things for me to talk to you about before we get underway, but I will, well, I'll give you the numbers here in a minute, what I call the talk.
I have a pretty, actually big announcement to make.
It's beginning, you know, we're starting to be a network.
So it is with immense pleasure, some trepidation, and an extreme amount of excitement that I would like to add that beginning Monday, the legendary KABC.
I mean, just saying that gives me a little tickle down the spine.
We're going to do open lines, which means anything goes.
Now, the two rules in mind, and of course, the two-drink maximum, not minimum, maximum is in place, if you want to call.
You know, a drink or two, and that's it.
So I guess that is our third rule for Friday night open lives.
Here's what I have in mind.
We're going to do a, you know, Back to the Future Day was Wednesday.
But I thought, oh, that's so perfect.
We're going to do it instead Friday night.
And they actually named it Back to the Future Day because, well, a lot of the things depicted in that movie, not all, but a lot, came true.
And they were looking at 30 years in the future.
So I thought it'd be cute to do that tonight with you.
I want you to sort of close your eyes and imagine 30 years in the future.
Look at your iPhone or, if you must, your Android.
People detect a bias there.
And tell me what you think it's going to look like in 30 years.
What will our airplanes look like in 30 years?
What will our transportation look like in 30 years?
What will our churches look like in 30 years?
Any of it, and all of it.
What will our computers look like?
I mean, I'm pretty proud of my computers, a couple of, well, three actually, but a couple of nice-looking HP laptops.
They serve well.
But in 30 years, what are they going to be?
Hard to imagine, right?
So the special line that we have on Friday nights tonight is dedicated to your vision of 30 years from now.
And it will be duly recorded, whether I'm here or not, and preserved.
And 30 years from now, some fool will drag it out and go ding, ding, ding or bong, bong, bong.
Still can't believe it, KABC on Monday.
You know, that's like starting at the other side of the domino pile and setting them going.
You know, from the top down.
Incredible.
I didn't want to tell you until I was, you know, really sure, not just LA, mind you, but L.A. radios defined by the call letters K-A-B-C.
Anyway, let's move on.
There is a horrid, horrid hurricane that is coming shore now, Hurricane Patricia.
And she's doing no favors as she comes ashore.
Category 5, Cat 5.
Story in itself.
We'll get to that.
High seas, surging seas, cyclonic winds.
It's horrible.
They clocked winds at 235 miles an hour, you know, gusts.
Patricia came from tropical storm to record beater in 30 hours flat, kind of like a jet-fueled sports car, because this storm had just the right stuff, if you will.
Plenty of warm water, Of course, that's energy, right?
What meteorologists call explosive intensification.
The air was a lot moistier than usual, adding more fuel.
Same time, upper-level crosswinds called shear that normally restrain a hurricane from strengthening.
Well, they were missing for much of Thursday.
And so Thursday, Patricia decided to get angry and off she went.
So good luck down there.
If you have relatives in Mexico, pray for them.
This is a big storm.
Not big in a geographic sense, big in winds and damage.
Compounding the nation's severe shortage of execution drugs, gosh, I know I worry about that every day, federal authorities have seized, confiscated shipments of lethal injection chemicals that were on their way to Arizona and Texas from abroad, saying such imports are illegal.
Can I hear a cheer in the cell?
Maybe you shouldn't put your money under a mattress, it seems, after all.
The stock market is now black again.
It was a bruising, bruising bit for the stock market, but it has come back.
And by the way, I'm going to give out the number for our special line tonight in a moment, but you can really respond on any line if you want to.
I understand a lot of people are going to have something to say about this, and perhaps what I'm about to do as well.
Scientists now have begun pointing a cluster of radio dishes at a mysterious star that some astronomers, as you know, believe could harbor an alien megastructure.
The search for extraterrestrial intelligence focused the Allen Telescope Array, all of them, located in Northern California on star KIC 8462852 on Friday.
Cess Shozdak told everybody to drop whatever they were doing and do nothing but listen.
And it brings up another question that I want to ask you about tonight and talk to you a little bit about.
And that is, this is arguably, I think, the most exciting development in my lifetime.
You know, if it comes true, it's going to be the biggest story, as Michio said, in 500 years, right?
500 years.
That would be a big story.
I don't know where he came up with that.
Anybody know what happened 500 years ago that would be greater than the discovery of an alien race?
Anyway, I was wondering about all this, and if it may well turn out to be nothing, you never know.
If it did turn out to be nothing, would you be happy or would you be sad?
I think it's as interesting to ask about the negative as the positive, if you want to think of it as a positive.
And, you know, there's a lot of argument there.
I think the fear is, frankly, I really do, religiously based for the most part.
I mean, if we met an alien race, perhaps a million years ahead of us after we figured out how to talk to them or if they even talk, what would they, I mean, think about them.
What if they became, evolved, prospered, thrived, but worshipped another God?
Or perhaps worse yet, none at all?
What if they never even conceived of the idea of religion?
Well, then we'd need to get to light speed quickly, right, so that all of the churches could begin sending representatives to knock on the little alien doors up there and tell them all about what they need to believe in.
But if in fact, as I said, if this alien race became evolved, prospered, thriving, and they either worshipped another or none at all, what would this say?
And I think that's where the fear is coming from.
I don't know that for sure.
I'm not a particularly religious guy.
I kind of believe in God.
No, let me rephrase that.
I kind of hope in God.
I really hope.
At my age, you have to be very hopeful about these things, right?
So I'm hopeful, but I don't know.
And if we did connect with another alien race and they just didn't even sort of register the concept of religion, this would be very, very upsetting for a lot of people.
Why?
Well, because as we all know or have been told, there is only one God, right?
So if there's only one God, then he'd have to be of service, well, even 1,500 light years away.
And if he wasn't, and if they'd never heard of him, if his son never visited, I think that would threaten a lot of people.
Okay.
One more thing, and then we'll do a break, and then we'll go to open lines.
It's just the two of us for whatever you want to do.
I do want to know about 30 years from now, though.
So two more things to do.
One is the Halloween show.
There's a great broo-ha-ha going on about what to call it.
The main contender right now seems to be Midnight in the Graveyard.
And, you know, that's pretty good.
Midnight in the Graveyard.
I like it.
Now, if I was doing a remote from a graveyard, it might be more appropriate.
I wasn't going to mention it, but as we went to break, I heard a strange sounding thing that almost sounded like midnight in the desert to me.
And now I'm hearing other stuff.
It's going to creep me out.
Earlier tonight, I was talking to my producer, and you know, so much has happened here, right?
Internet glitches, weird stuff has been happening to us in the network.
And of course, let's not forget the shots ringing out the other night, right?
So I was talking to my producer, Heather, earlier, and we were contemplating on what could be coming next.
And so I closed my eyes, and I envisioned this raggedy, two, well, at least two football fields wide, a piece of rock tumbling through space at about 45,000 miles an hour, headed straight for Prump, and probably my studio.
You know, somebody will look up and see it burning its way into the atmosphere and kaboom, right here.
I mean, what else can happen after all, right?
All right, where was I?
The talk.
All right, so you've got my public number, then there is Skype.
If you have an Apple product or an Android product, either way, you can download Skype in a jiffy.
It's free.
Free is good, right?
Put it on your phone or your pad or whatever and become familiar with it.
You can do it.
And when you are, add us.
Don't go to the dialing part as so many people have done.
That won't work.
Add us as a contact.
If you're in North America, add MITD51, as in Midnight in the Desert, right?
M-I-T-D-5-1.
If you're out in the rest of the world, it's M-I-T-D 5-5.
M-I-T-D 5-5.
And then we'll appear on your contact list, and you can call us at will.
All that said, let us begin outside the country somewhere with Mark, I think in Great Britain, right?
But you know, I was going to say in 30 years, I think they're going to have built that tower that they're talking about, the elevator, and yes, but I think there's going to be six countries, including private investors, involved in it, so that it will be protected, you know, so there won't be the issue of sabotage or anything.
I had to have the Humane Society come pick them up, but they were trained to be very vicious.
But I talked to a guy that used another three of them for other dogs.
They were all Rottweilers, and he used three females for security with himself.
And he said they never stay alongside him when he patrols in the dark.
He said they surround the buildings and keep him in sight.
And when he has a confrontation with somebody, the dogs come up secretively and stand around the person, and the person doesn't even know they're there until there's some kind of physical confrontation, and they just unload on the person.
The health of the oceans, I think, will eventually recover, but within 30 years, I think we're going to have explored and made much more use of the oceans, but I think we'll understand them a lot more.
I want to take your face And if you get hurt By the little things I say I can put that smile back on to your face Hi, I'm Asia Bell, and it's very late, so I'm sleeping now.
But you're awake, so call my daddy, because he's awake, too.
If we discovered an alien race and we began a dialogue with them and we found out, well, they probably are a million years ahead of us, but you know, they too came from probably, you know, a mud puddle and a lightning strike, whatever.
Anyway, they evolved, they prospered, they thrived, but they don't know anything about God.
How would that strike you?
unidentified
It would probably destroy my faith in the God of the Bible, especially if he said, here's how we created you guys.
We know how life is formed from non-life, and here's how we did it, or something like that.
That would destroy my faith.
But I would ask you the other question.
Okay.
I was on Seth's show stack, and we talked about this a little bit.
At some point, absence of evidence is evidence of absence.
I would just challenge you, Art, before your time on earth is done, you should make a call on whether it really should be considered to be evidence of absence.
And a teammate of mine invited me and another player who was out of state to his parents' house on a Sunday for some pizza to watch some NFL games.
The guy there from that state told us that about three miles from his house, there was a place where on the road there, there was a lot of weird activity happened right there.
And he knocked, the driver, which was the guy that knew the place, he knocked on, done the thing.
He knew all the games or whatever it was.
I don't know how you done it.
He knocked on the window and this thing came down, which I don't think I can explain is that it was a woman and she was the most grotesque thing.
I don't think I can compare it to for my personal thing.
And she was riding a stick.
No broom.
I couldn't tell if it was a broom.
It looked like a stick.
Come down from the clouds in front of her SUV.
Once she got on the front of the SUV, she jumped on the hood, looked in the window at us, and just like she was smelling us, breathing and smelling us.
Okay, I was like, I was yelling.
I was like, lock your doors, let's get out of here.
I was the only one.
I had a knife in my hand, but that knife would have been useless against something like this.
And whatever the woman, the woman, she jumped off the car.
We couldn't start the car.
And the car wouldn't start.
And she got over there at the driver's side door, tried to unlock it.
She couldn't unlock it.
And she tried to get to the rear passenger door and couldn't unlock it.
And I was on the other side.
So she walked around.
And she sort of, you know, do you believe in God?
Well, you know, at this time, I was not a believer in God at this time there.
And I really, you know, during this last newscast, just prior to the, or following the break that I blew, I heard about this asteroid hurtling toward Earth.
Now, it's not going to hit Earth, so rest easy, but it's hurtling this way.
And the way things are going, I'm sure something will bump into it, alter its trajectory just a little bit, and she's coming straight for Prump.
I just know it.
Hi there, Sean on Skype.
You're on here.
Hello.
Sean?
Sean, John, John.
Are you there?
Last chance.
Sean.
My goodness, guy.
You know, you're calling a radio program, so you've got to be ready.
Okay, so you're talking more about an economic collapse, right?
unidentified
Right.
The same thing that, you know, the way that we won the Cold War was we got them to outspend to the point that they couldn't sustain themselves as a large entity.
We're well on the way to doing that right now, so not such a hard prediction.
I mean, look at the spending we're doing.
My God, it'll never withstand another 30 years at this rate.
unidentified
Absolutely.
And I think that it'll be kind of similar and that while that's going on, I'm also noticing that states are starting to say, hey, you know, if we want to do something, we're just going to pass a law and say we're going to do it.
I mean, the marijuana legalization on the left coast is a good example, but I think there are other examples.
And the feds are kind of so far anyway going, well, we're too busy to worry about that.
You've got to ask yourself, in 30 years, if California were allowed to go its own way, what California would be like in 30 years?
unidentified
Exactly.
And I see the red state, blue state thing just getting bigger and bigger, and the cultural divides.
I mean, up here in the Northwest, I mean, the Eastern Washington and Western Washington are like two different planets.
And I just see a lot of fracturing.
And with the way our economy is going, we're going to have a higher and higher corporate feudalism where what company you belong to will be more important for a lot of people than what country they supposedly live in.
I don't suppose you've seen the new TV program called Humans, have you, about the essentially robots?
unidentified
No, no, I didn't know there was.
I'll look into that.
I don't have regular TV.
But the other thing that I think is that, though, at the same time, the Moore's Law is not going to go away completely.
People are starting to say we've reached the end of it.
I don't think we've reached the end of it.
And I think that within 30 years, there will be microchip computers that can be implanted in your brains, and everyone will be using those instead of cell phones.
All right, Michelle, what do you think the world's going to look like in 30 years?
unidentified
I'm not really sure exactly what it's going to look like, but my hope is that we've, whether it be from this megastructure or just needs and resources, that I hope that we've gotten back into space.
We haven't just completely ditched that and gone down the same road for the next 30 years.
Yeah, the last caller that talked about corporate feudalism, I never heard that term, and that kind of rang with me.
I think that's where we're headed is that the future is about more corporations than government, and the power that we have in our society is shifting.
And, you know, I don't see a good future for the United States.
So maybe in 30 years, the Rose Garden will be outside Apple.
unidentified
Well, that's another thing.
Tech companies, they think they're going to solve all our problems, and they're not.
We're going to solve all our problems.
And that's how I think the rest of us need to view it is if we want to change the outcome in 30 years from what it is now, we need to pull together and start to unify and not fractionalize like we are.
So, you know, we have a chance to change the future right now and make 30 years from now a lot better than it is right now.
You know, I do too, but I happened to listen to the newscast coming up, and they were talking about this asteroid coming in at like 10,000 miles an hour or something.
Imagine a world with no religion might be a better place.
I know that offends a lot of people to think about, but most of our wars, well, frankly, they're about religion, right?
Most of those who go to war or take up terrorism as an act of hobby, they all hold out their God in front of them as they do what they're going to do, or as they push the red button that they've been holding, or as they, you get the idea, do whatever.
On the first time caller line, you have achieved the air.
Oh, yes, I'm hearing about it, the one that's going to make the close pass?
unidentified
Well, it's going to be set to make a few close passes in, I believe it's starting in the year 2024, but it should be the year 2036 when it should make the closest call.
I believe in 30 years it will be kind of a new point because I believe no matter if it hits or if it just makes a close call, which would rip off a bunch of the Earth's atmosphere, I believe for anything that happens, well, we'll be to an iPhone 15 at the time.
But yeah, have you ever heard of the Colburn text?
Okay, well, unfortunately, it won't work for Sprint, but that is, you know, it was a good call, but it was a bad cell connection, right?
I've got some news for you.
Those of you out there who would like to sound good and don't have good cell service, AT ⁇ T, they're my carrier, has just instituted something called Wi-Fi calling.
It's high-definition calling.
Now, here's what you can do, some of you.
You might give it a try.
It's really cool.
You look into it.
There's a little button.
You go to settings on the phone.
And I'm going to tell you how to do this.
You go to settings on your phone.
And then, of course, all the apps are listed.
And you go down to phone, right?
If you've got AT ⁇ T, this might work.
You go down to phone and click on it.
And one option for you is Wi-Fi calling.
And when you turn it on, it will ask you a couple of questions and then presumably switch you over to Wi-Fi calling.
Now, that means you're going to use the Internet in your house to access AT ⁇ T. I think a couple of other carriers do this as well.
But the quality of the sound is astronomical.
It is wonderful.
So that's, of course, if you have good internet.
If your internet is bad, you'll sound terrible.
But assuming you've got good internet, good Wi-Fi, Wi-Fi calling is about 100 times better than your average cell phone.
Hey, I was thinking about, okay, so if I'm in San Diego, California, and I'm trying to get a hold of somebody in New York and New York, and how long would it take for me to get there physically, But I can hear them instantly on the phone.
Why wouldn't that be any different than somebody in a planet 1,500 miles away, 1,500 light years away?
You're talking about San Diego and New York, and you're also talking about the speed of light, because that's essentially pretty close to how fast you're going.
Now, to go to somebody 1,500 light years away at the speed of light, about the same speed you're talking now, would take 1,500 years, yes?
unidentified
Well, but why can I speak with somebody in New York instant and it begins?
If that popped in your head, that means you are a man of faith.
And if that's the case, then I need to ask you the opposite question.
If we do meet them, the unlikely scenario, I'm sure, in your head that we do meet them, and they never heard of God or even the concept of religion, then how would that hit you?
unidentified
It probably shaked me pretty hard.
I was raised pretty hard in religion, but I don't really practice it, but I do believe.
Okay, well, you have, thank you, proven my point absolutely in a stellar way.
I think that if there is hesitation to Release information about aliens.
Honest to goodness, folks.
I'm getting kind of serious for a moment.
I know it's Friday.
And by the way, for those of you new to the show, during the week, we have guest after guest, very serious, very interesting guests.
And Friday, I just sort of let my hair hang down what little I have left, and we just have fun.
But I think what you heard from this man and from a man earlier actually is quite serious stuff.
If we were visited, if there was no sense of religion or God or anything else, it would impact a lot of people in a way that is so profound, it's difficult to articulate.
And so if there is hesitation to release information about aliens, and if there is heavy reflection of the Brookings study before releasing information, now you know why.
You would hear things and you would feel things, but you, of course, would not see things because you've never had that experience.
Wow.
Hello there.
You're on the air on the phone.
unidentified
Oh, hi, Art.
I was going to just, you know, on your Friday night shows, I really like them because, you know, just to listen to all these different callers and I was going to sit back and just enjoy it and listen.
And when you started talking about your show coming up the day before Halloween, and you were mentioning these different what you were thinking of calling the show, correct?
Now, I just, you know, it just kind of, I thought, oh, I'm going to call in, just see if I can get through, because I like this kind of thing where you kind of sometimes throw out ideas and see if, you know, what other people might come up with.
Do you want to hear what I came up with?
I do.
Okay, the first title I thought of was Some Like It Hot.
I mean, we do science, we do paranormal, we do all kinds of different stuff, and it's true.
unidentified
It's fun.
I also was wondering, because I sent an email to Heather about a week ago because I was listening and you said that you make recommendations for people you think should be on the show.
Like I said, I'm a new time listener, so I don't know if you've ever had them on the show.
But I was wondering, are you familiar with the Project Phoenix, the Montauk Project?
Well, I've had Preston in the past, and I've had a number of people, actually, that had to do with the project.
They're all getting on up there, as am I. But yes, I will look into it.
unidentified
I've literally just gone through all the Peter Moon books.
I work night times at a nursing home, so I listen to everything audio books out, basically, and they're working.
And I went through his books, and I mean, it's really fascinating stuff.
I don't know if you've read any of his books personally.
I mean, this insight that he gives from a technological and just, you know, just the average person standpoint, it's insane, but at the same time, it's just provocative stuff.
People are always asking to have Bob Lazar on again, but you know, he always tells exactly the same story, which is to his credit.
And he doesn't add to it.
He doesn't embellish it.
It's always exactly the same, and I believe every word of it.
unidentified
Well, I do.
And, you know, oftentimes I hear some of the episodes where some of the shit you had out there, and some of the guys you had on there weren't credible.
In fact, there is one that reminds me through West Virginia.
I was listening to you on the radio, and there's a guy that decided he was going to take a helicopter and go down in the middle of the earth, and it just got out.
Well, in fact, you got pretty angry when I think with the producer put that guy on in a place.
Although, I remember that show, and that was pretty funny.
I was in favor of Green Bay, but it was hard to watch.
unidentified
I know Phillip Rivers broke all those records for passing all-time for the Chargers, but I think if they could have tied that game and gone into overtime, I think possibly Phillip Rivers may have gotten the all-time record.
He might have thrown between almost probably close to 600 yards, maybe at least 550.
You know, I can't even begin to tell you the heartbreak that team has brought to me.
I was actually in San Diego when they were in the playoffs, and you know what?
I don't even want to talk about it.
Hello there in Florida.
You're on here.
unidentified
Hey, Art.
How you doing, buddy?
Okay.
Yeah, I just wanted to say a couple predictions for 30 years, maybe even sooner, and also comment on the show name.
Sure.
In 30 years, I actually think that the films, the movies, will have actors or and actresses that have passed on, like famous actors and actresses that they actually put into the films with the use of visual effect technology and maybe motion capture.
He left the show because he suffers from tinnitus, rather severe tinnitus, I believe, more commonly known as ringing of the ears.
And so I doubt That he would do something like that, but you never know.
I mean, something like that is, you know, people are always asking me to be a guest on their show, and I never know how to respond.
And I also don't know how to be a guest.
In fact, generally, when I have buckled and I've agreed to be somebody's guest, I end up interviewing them as much as they do me because I don't know how to be a guest.
Other than the few things that have occurred to me that are supernatural, perhaps, in my life, I don't know what to say.
And so I end up turning it around and interviewing them, which is really weird.
Well, you know, when we began with the show, Bob, that was the only way that we were able to get listeners through social media and people telling people.
unidentified
It works.
Yeah, it definitely.
I mean, I can't say how happy I am to actually hear you back on the air again.
It's unbelievable.
Thank you.
But as far as your dead air is concerned, that's perfect.
And as far as the aliens and the religion, I would have to say that if they're that technologically advanced, that their arrogance would probably have surpassed any feelings of hope they would have of a God.
Yeah, I would have to say if they're that technologically advanced, that I would have to say their arrogance would surpass their ability for hope anymore.
Well, I kind of envision the Art Bell Memorial Meteor Crater to be here.
unidentified
Yes, it's going to be what used to be Peru, but when they dig down, when they dig down into the bottom of it, they're going to find a lot of molten slag that they think was a radio transmitter.
And again, if you're listening to an affiliate, by all means, mention its name or its calling.
unidentified
Well, I wish I could do that because that was on the list here to tell you that Seattle Radio really leaves something to be desired as far as entertainment value.
Well, in other words, when somebody says hello, you've got to be relatively fast, especially if you're on a radio program, or I think there's nobody on the other end.
unidentified
I understand that.
I was listening to the show, and I thought you were saying hello to somebody else.
I guess that other network is still playing my Saturday night shows, aren't they?
unidentified
Oh, yes.
And I don't think I've ever listened to you live in the entire I've listened to you for years, but I don't think I've ever listened to you live until now.
And a Ouija board, a Ouija board is just a Ouija board.
It's not the board.
It's not the app.
It's the intent.
In other words, if you set out to locate a spirit, something from the other side, if you will, it's not the material thing that you use in that quest, but your own intent that I think is dangerous.
And so I would warn you, be careful.
And that's, I think, why I have not used my ghost app yet.
I really do have it here.
But I actually, other than the first night I got it, I opened it up and I looked at it.
You know, about talking about aliens with the David Jacobs shows and stuff, what doesn't make sense to me is why aliens who must have the technology, you know, mastering genetics and biology, why do they need millions of us around for making hybrids?
Couldn't they just manufacture whatever they'd want?
Maybe you missed a little bit and said I like Ike.
unidentified
I don't know.
I am confused.
I don't know.
I'll keep you posted if I see anything.
As far as the show for Halloween, I'm loving dead air.
I think that's the spot.
And I've got to tell you, Art, as far as mysteries go, I've got a suggestion for a show topic.
Yes, sir.
California in Los Angeles on Skid Row.
That is the subject of the American Horror Story, which is the show that's on television the last few seasons.
This season is all about based on this particular hotel, on the crazy things that have happened there.
The most recent, I think, craziest, is this young woman who was a student who was found.
There's video of her getting on an elevator, getting off, but the mystery of how her body was found inside a water tank on the top of the hotel has never been solved.
I talked about it during my last radio incarnation.
And boy, that's freaky.
Absolutely freaky stuff.
I quite agree.
One of the scarier stories in a long, long time.
People didn't believe it.
And so, of course, they did what people do, and they went to Google and researched it and came back with a different expression on their face entirely.
I have some information that is based off of my grandfather that I was raised from, which was a Marine and actually was in the war in World War I. He sat there and he used to laugh when certain TV shows used to come on and talk about UFOs flying around and said that it was a basis and a byproduct of a gentleman that I
do not have any idea of who he is, but his name was Victor Schomberger, I believe, that was trying to create some kind of propulsion that made the suction of the UFO craft lighter above it than the bottom of it.
And I mean, he has since passed away.
And he taught to me because I was raised by him.
He gave me a lot of information, basically letting me know that a lot of the things that we believe that are UFOs are actually a byproduct of certain situations that we were given the gift to know by certain alien civilizations that came from another planet,
but they didn't really come down here and try to abduct us and do different things like that.
Well, I wanted to see where your story was going, and I don't.
I get the first part about the essential vacuum or whatever that would sort of pull the UFO along.
I've heard that kind of drive referred to before.
Now, the rest of it sort of wandered away into la-la land.
You brought up so many things.
Sometimes you need to just be quiet, listen to somebody like that, and see if they're actually headed to a destination or just blasting off into space.
Do I believe in the possibility of angels and demons?
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Yes.
Okay.
I just, my thoughts on one of your earlier comments about the UFOs and if they were to land with the King James Bible or not, in my opinion, I think that the UFOs would probably have a lot of respect for anybody who did follow the King James Bible or who had a belief in it.
And of course, I never get to hear it because I'm here doing it.
And trust me, I would have my FTDX9000 Delta tuned in to your frequency, and I'd be listening to it if I could.
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Well, you know, we definitely do running the show.
I have been a very longtime listener from the early 90s.
I've always been, you know, it's really wild because I'd listen to the board op and I'd hear him mess up and I would always say, man, if I was doing that show, I would do it perfect every night.
Yeah, I was thinking, you know, you were talking the other day about the, you know, the megastructure that they're saying that they found so far and how we probably wouldn't want to communicate and couldn't with them because they're so far away right now.
But my thought is, is, what if they're the ones that are already here?