David Paris, president of Space Warp Dynamics LLC, details his 3.5-year, unpaid research into functional warp drive tech, inspired by a 1969 UFO sighting near Goodyear Lake and thunderstorm-induced space-time anomalies like Bruce Gernin’s 1970 Bimini-to-Miami displacement. Using fractal arrays and torsion bars, his lab achieves 1.5x power output post-shutdown, defying electromagnetic explanations, with plans to test a quarter-scale 40-pound Bluebird 2 by October 2013. Aligning with NASA’s EmDrive and Eagleworks’ warp bubble findings, Paris warns of weaponization risks but envisions revolutionizing space travel—cutting Mars mission costs to $10 per pound—while urging cautious, incremental testing amid global paranoia over undetectable, ultra-fast transit. [Automatically generated summary]
And it is a big one with time zones stretching all the way around until tomorrow.
I'm Mark Bell.
And this is a program called Midnight in the Desert.
And it is so because, well, of our theme song, of course.
And also the fact that when we're doing it, it's always midnight somewhere across the U.S. Just sweeps across.
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Have you ever had something that just really gnaws at your soul?
And I don't know why this is gnawing at my soul, but I'm going to bring it up again tonight because it's doing that.
If I have a soul, it's definitely gnawing at it.
Otherwise, it's gnawing at whatever we call it a soul.
According to the Inuit elders, the earth has shifted.
This is not a minor matter.
It's a new warning that comes to NASA from the Inuits.
They're warning, the change in the climate that we are experiencing has nothing to do with global warming, but rather because the earth is shifting a bit.
Now, so far I'm not worried, right?
But it goes on.
The Inuits are local people that live in the Arctic regions of Canada, the U.S., and Greenland.
They are excellent weather forecasters and always have been, and so were their ancestors.
Presently, they're warning NASA, because I guess they want NASA to look that the cause of a change in weather, earthquakes, so forth, not due to global warming, as the world thinks, but they say we have shifted or wobbled the whole Earth.
Now, here's where it gets worrisome to me.
This is what's gnawing at me.
They say, and this is in quotes, their sky has changed.
The elders declare that the sun rises at a different position now.
Worrisome.
Not where it used to be previously.
They also have longer daylight to hunt than they used to have.
Sun is much higher than earlier.
They say it gets warmer much quickly.
Other elders across parts of North America also, or the entire North, actually also confirmed the same thing about the sky changing when interviewed.
They also allege the position of the sun, moon, and stars have all changed for them, causing changes in all kinds of things.
Now, this has affected even the wind, they say.
It's very difficult to predict the weather now, according to them.
But I don't know, when they say that their sky has changed, that actually, it really gnaws at me and worries me a lot.
By the way, not that I think anything is going to happen in September this month, in five days or whenever people have been saying.
But you remember I told you there was this generation going on, this generation of worry on the internet about September?
And it was funny because when I said it, I guess it must have been early.
I caught it early because people came and said, ah, come on, what are you talking about?
People are saying, you've got to have somebody on about what's going to happen in September.
I don't know what that would be.
Unless CERN is going to do an experiment.
I don't think they are.
They might.
Create a black hole.
Eat us all.
I don't know.
Anything else?
Well, the government exercise is going on, I guess.
And then there's this moon thing.
I don't know.
People, they've always got to have something to talk about, right?
So now it's September.
Okay, so Arizona, nastiness, sign of the time, somebody taking pot shots at vehicles on I-10 in Arizona.
What the hell is going on that people would sit there with a rifle and take shots at cars, you know, shattering windows and stuff like that.
One 13-year-old hurt by a shattered window, and eventually somebody will die, of course.
Crazy.
We have Russian troops now in Syria.
Wonderful.
Just wonderful.
Russian troops.
It is beginning to feel again like the Cold War.
Every day it gets colder and colder.
Now there is a climate change for you.
Every day the Cold War gets colder.
Or what should have been the warming gets colder.
I don't know what I'm talking about.
Then finally this.
A squeeze down a narrow crack and then an amazing, amazing discovery in South Africa.
Jagged rocks hooked into Stephen Tucker's overalls as he squeezed down a crack deep in a subterranean cave and upon emerging at the other end, he saw he was in a chamber dripping with spalactites.
Then his headlamp shone on a bone, then more bones, and half a skull.
It was the night of September 13, 2013, and Tucker and his caving partner had just discovered the remains of what scientists would later determine to be a new member of the human family tree.
They think about 2 million years old.
And they did, you know, a kind of a reconstruction of what it would have looked like.
And I must tell you, if accurate, it's half human, half animal, and half monkey.
I mean, this look, if I saw this in a newspaper headline somewhere, Warp Drive invented, I guess probably I would, you know, think of Star Trek real quick and then chuckle to myself, and I would expect to find it on one of those websites where, I don't know, they talk about, you know, human women having alien babies and stuff like that.
Well, Professor, before we go on, you and I share something.
I had my own sighting, and it was a beauty.
Couldn't have been more than 150 feet above my head, a gigantic triangle that blanked out the moon and the stars and sailed right over me, directly over my head.
If I hadn't been in such shock, I probably could have thrown a rock at it or felt like I could.
And this thing was about 60 feet in diameter and had about a 12 or so foot girth to it.
It was a saucer.
It was silver.
But the thing that caught my interest the most was that there wasn't any sound, there weren't any smoke, there weren't any greenhouse, you know, in other words, glass.
Well, the only thing that you could detect, there appeared, and this was later on when I was flying gliders, is that sound of air buffing over the cockpit.
He and I had a discussion about the number of UFO reports compared with, I don't know, from the, what, the mid-40s on, and whether it's actually dropped in recent years.
And that's one of our biggest problems that we have in addressing these cases that we get assigned is during the investigation, the people are only reporting what they see.
Then you have to then analyze exactly what they're talking about and the position in the sky relative to this.
And most times, and this is the sorry part of it, most of these observations are at night.
So you have no absolute reference to ground or a tree or building many times.
It's just against the black sky.
So, you know, most of these things go reported as unknown.
And it's kind of a shame in a sense because when you introduce the hoaxing that comes in with the drones, photoshopping, I mean, we've developed a set of software.
It's a fractal analysis, actually, that will analyze photos.
And if they've been doctored, we can tell.
Now, we're not going to describe over the air how we do this.
How does somebody in your position who is not afraid to talk about the sighting that you just explained to us and moreover now runs MUFON, how does he deal with his colleagues?
But as far as fellow colleagues laughing or chuckling, actually, we don't run into any of that.
Our geography department and geology department actually sponsors the room that we occupy on Saturdays, which is actually one of my classrooms that I teach out of.
And so we have everything all set up there.
We have archives.
We have just received some archives of documents from a former newspaper reporter of the Herb Shermer case that was down in Ashland, Nebraska.
And we have whole new files that we've gone through, pictures that have never been released to the public.
We have everything now.
So we do our own studies, case studies, and it ranges everything from abduction to propulsion to craft to speculation, what's out there, you know.
Well, the actual fractal arrays are, they emulate what happens actually within a thunderstorm itself.
I've gone back over 14 years of research of pilots' claims of having a linear displacement, which is they get involved into a thunderstorm and they get popped out and they're 100 to 300 miles downrange of where they were supposed to be.
Really?
And the Bruce Gernin story from 1970, December 4th, 1970, is probably the best documented case.
I've met Bruce.
I've flown with him several times.
We've had extensive conversations.
I've reviewed all of his materials that he had, the flight maps, his refueling logs, and all the other things.
And so the uniqueness of this particular story, and there are other ones that also come into play as well, but his being more documented, he takes off at Andrews Island at 3 o'clock in the afternoon.
He gets near Bimini.
Clouds begin to form and circle up and around his aircraft, which is about a 30-mile diameter, but he's looking around, and these things are going like 65,000 feet, which is not unusual on those areas.
But at the moment, we're talking about how he got there, and that involves, at the moment, a flight down into the Caribbean, and I guess with only a fixed amount of fuel.
And now storm clouds gather about the plane with tops at 65,000 feet.
Well, a typical flight that he would do is about 210 miles from West Palm Beach down to Andros.
And when he left at 3 o'clock in the afternoon, with all the alterations in his flight path, ended up going about 250 miles.
However, the typical flight would take 75 minutes.
And his flight on that day in 4 December 1970 took 47 minutes.
So there was a 28-minute delta time difference.
And the expenditure of fuel would, with an 80-gallon tank, he had the extra modifications in the wing tanks to hold 80 gallons on that aircraft.
The typical fuel used would be 38 gallons in a round trip.
Like I said, there was no refueling when you get there.
And so whatever you came in, you leave with.
So when he hit up into the Bimini Island region, the thunderstorms were beginning to close in around.
And he saw an opening between these two last building cells going up very quickly.
And there was a hole.
He could see blue sky onto the other side.
Pilots referred to these as like sucker holes.
And it happened to be going in about the right direction that he needed to get to land.
So he went and he took it.
And as he went through this, the girth of these clouds out into the ocean areas are greater than five miles.
They're many times into the 10 to 15, 20 mile thicknesses.
And as he went through this tunnel, which would have taken him literally minutes to go through, he said within like about a 20-second interval from entering to when he exited, the aircraft just sped down this tunnel and the clouds began to rotate within the tunnel and then start to touch the wingtips of the aircraft, which is about a 30-foot diameter from tip to tip.
And as he came out of it, everything kind of went like a grayish color, gray-white color, where ionization from the cloud adhered to the aircraft because it looks just like an antenna.
It looks like an omnidirectional antenna.
And this, he calls it electronic fog.
But in reality, this is just ionization from the intense electrical fields within the thunderstorm.
And these things can reach out close to 25 to 30 miles away from clouds, ionization of the air.
It's a brand new airplane, you know, and he's kind of perplexed here.
He's still flying the thing.
He indicate that he felt the aircraft hydroplane slightly, and he had a very slight feeling of weightlessness.
And then suddenly, about three minutes later, and during this time period, he's calling to air traffic control, approach control, and he's saying, hey, look, I'm here in Bimini.
But as we still explore this particular story and we relate it back to the theoretical concepts of Miguel El Cubier in 1994, he lays out a very specific procedural thing of why people in a warp bubble, how they would feel the momentum, there wouldn't be any momentum.
In other words, you could make 90-degree turns.
The bubble would have certain characteristics.
And in his case, as we determined, or as I determined, was that he fits all the protocol for what El Cubier was talking about.
And interestingly, it was a non-sustainable warp bubble that allowed him to be a linear displacement of 100 miles from Vimini to Miami Beach because the radar operator tells him on the radio, the only aircraft I have is over Miami Beach.
There's nothing in Vimini.
And he gets all upset.
And I guess the passengers are getting kind of upset as well because nobody knows where they're at.
And people are telling them we can't see on radar.
And you've got to remember these approach radar control things, they rotate four revolutions per minute.
So he's gone in one of the 15-second rotations, and he reappears on the next scan, another 15 seconds, and he pops up in Miami.
Well, I did some calculations, and what we're looking at is this 100 miles that more than likely he went there.
He actually went from Bimini to Miami Beach in about a second, and more than likely less.
And once the bubble then dissipated, then he was left back over that vicinity.
Then the electronic fog, that disappeared as well.
And then he could finally see what was going on beneath him.
So that would be 360,000 miles an hour.
Now, the aircraft wings fall off on this airplane.
They start getting structural cracks at about 210.
I mean, there's no way this aircraft could do this.
And so if we look at the total time, even if we try to go back and try to just prove what he was able to do 250 miles in 47 minutes, you still got to go 319 miles an hour.
It's impossible for that aircraft to do that.
All right.
So he clears with the tower.
He clears with the approach control.
He gets to West Palm Beach.
He's kind of baffled by this whole situation.
He lands at 347 in the afternoon.
So he's got verification of people seeing him take off at 3.
He's got verification of people seeing him at 3.47.
All right.
He goes and he refuels the aircraft because this guy does everything by the book.
And when he lands, he refuels the aircraft.
I got his refueling ticket.
I got a copy of it.
And it indicates that on that day, he only used 29 gallons.
There are, but it doesn't just situate itself here in Bermuda Triangle.
I have a case in England of a tiger moth in World War II.
It's a biplane that was doing radar experiments, and a pilot got caught up into a thunderstorm.
He saw an opening in the thunderstorm, drove the plane through to the blue sky.
He ended up in northern England.
He was flying over north London, and he came back to his base, and, you know, he landed, a little bit of damage on the aircraft and stuff, but he was displaced.
And then we get into Kwajalan to Guam, where Lieutenant Colonel Frank Hopkins, his navigator on a C-97, gets linear displaced 300 miles.
And a six and a half hour trip takes five.
And he writes a letter to Argus magazine back in the 1960s after he retires.
And I checked the guy out.
I mean, the guy was a master navigator.
But there's no way that aircraft could ever get to its final destination in five hours versus the typical six and a half.
In some of the cases, others that the plane just goes and they see them.
Sometimes the aircraft is flying at night.
In the case of the C-97, it was at night.
So there weren't any other reference points.
So we don't know exactly what happened, but we do know that there was a displacement.
So the curiosity of it all, it's not just resonant to the Bemidji Triangle region.
It will occur anywhere in the world when the conditions are just right.
Because these thunderstorms that, you know, that just because of unstable air conditions, I mean, they just rise and they can get very severe.
But as the electrical fields increase, they actually produce positrons and you get antimatter being generated within these thunderstorms.
It's a recent discovery.
It's about 2010.
There was some research that was done prior to that, but the official papers came out in 2010 telling us that there were actually antimatter, trillions of these things, within thunderstorms all over the world.
And it was detected by the Fermi spacecraft that they sent up to purposely look for antimatter out in the universe.
And if they would have real, they didn't ever realize this, but the discovery was that the Earth is loaded with this stuff and thunderstorms produce.
And so it generates over 500,000 electron volts within the cloud.
So it's one of these things, the kind of the straw that broke the camel's back here, is that this increase in energy is more than likely part of the precipitating effects that in the generation of these tunnels where the pilots go through, the fields cross from storm to storm.
And the fields themselves, the way they're structured within the thunderstorm, are, and you're familiar with this, the concept of a dipole, plus, minus.
Yes, in the thunderstorm itself, of what my research and verified by other researchers out there, particularly like Earl Wilson in 1984, talked about the generation of these dipole fields, plus, minus, minus, plus, an inverted dipole at the bottom of the thunderstorm.
And with that information, it became Very clear that between these two thunderstorms, when all these fields crossed, there was a sweet spot.
And in the freezing level of the thunderstorms, this is where you would find this.
And this is where, in this case, Bruce Gernin went through.
And in the case of the pilot in England during World War II, during the fall time period when he was flying in through there, the freezing levels were lower, and he didn't require oxygen.
And you don't need oxygen unless you go up above 10,000 feet.
But in both of these instances, these guys are going down in through the freezing level and popping out, you know, in Bruce's case, 100-plus miles away.
And the only other explanation at this point is we have tremendous amounts of energy.
We've got these tripole fields existing within the cloud structures.
And these aircraft are being displaced downrange.
And Alcubierre's theory parallels the exact statements that were made by Bruce in particular of what transpired during this time period, what happened after that, and those other descriptions of the aircraft instruments going offline on that.
And, you know, being a pilot myself, being involved in aviation, since I could almost crawl and being involved in radio and electronics and everything else, I listened to these guys.
And, you know, the verification of Bruce, extensive conversations.
So other people could consider this to be anecdotal.
And being a weather observer and a forecaster when I was in the Air Force and also a radar operator, I mean, I've measured, seen, collected data and written models for, you know, the numerical weather models and that.
I've gotten a full gamut of within the weather itself, but also then being involved in aviation, I understood what these guys were going through.
And the bottom line of incorporating concepts from El Cubier was this was the writing, the handwriting on the wall that nature actually does produce this.
You know, one case, okay, maybe the guy is a fibber, right?
Two cases, well, three cases, four, five, six.
There's something going on here.
Nobody wants to believe these guys.
I'm doing the investigation.
And so I was playing detective.
And it didn't dawn on me until I began to realize the concepts of these, the cross fields that go on between the thunderstorms when they're side by side like this.
And I said, okay, well, why don't we try, and what I did was I investigated 35 cases in the Bermuda Triangle because I had availability to the data.
And out of those, I randomly picked 22 cases.
And then from there, I started to analyze each case and did like a weather forensics on it.
And I started to note that these disappearances, these aircraft, all had similar weather conditions in the sense of when the thunderstorms evolved in the early, you know, like late morning, early afternoon, then the plane goes out, it's clear, and they never come back.
So unfortunately, there are a lot of pilots that succumb to this stuff, maybe pilot disorientation, mechanical, maybe other types of occurrences.
I understand the nature of the storms in that area, and they can get very violent, cloud tops very high.
We also, though, in the mid-part of the United States, spring and fall, we have very, very similar conditions with gigantic thunderstorms forming, frequently producing tornadoes, but really high cloud tops.
So what's unique, do you think, about the Bermuda area versus the central U.S. bad storms?
Well, when we talk about oceanic thunderstorms, and this is anywhere in the world, it's that you have light variable winds aloft and you have tremendous amounts of heated water beneath of it.
So you've got tremendous amounts of water vapor that then stimulate these unstable conditions.
And if you're in the Bermuda Triangle, which I've flown in there several times, it's hazier than all get out.
I mean, you can hardly see the hand in front of your face.
Now, I'm exaggerating there.
But in the case of like when we were flying down there, we were doing some TV shows.
We had two aircraft take off within like five minutes of each other.
It took us a half an hour to find each other.
And they're identical aircraft with the same kinds of capabilities.
It took us 20 minutes to locate each other in the sky.
Then we shot the film and all this kind of stuff.
But in addition to this, you see cloud structures.
It gives phantom islands beneath.
So that area is like very misgiving.
And if you don't have a GPS, and if you're not an expert navigator, you're going to get lost.
But in the case of these clouds, they will pop up very quickly because of these conditions.
Now, versus land-based thunderstorms, they know I get the difference.
And I don't have any data as far as aircraft losses and things like that that I have studied there.
But yes, from what I have seen in the Pacific, into the Atlantic Ocean, and yes, anytime that these conditions, which basically you're talking about energy from space coming in from the solar winds, you've got this stuff as they call it as the introduction of plasma, the flux transfer, and it's not the flux capacitor here.
We're not back to the future here, but the flux transfer is an actual component of where excess amounts of energy from space get into the upper atmosphere and can alter the atmosphere.
Yes, and in essence of what we're trying to attain, right now, you know, we're just kind of crawling, and our results of all of our experiments are more than just encouraging.
It pretty much defines the fact that it really is true.
What we have done is to replicate the internal functions of these fields from the thunderstorms.
And originally, after these flights, in particular talking with Bruce, what I did was I made some forecast parameters and I started to figure out when would these types of clouds begin to form.
And the idea here was to take a UAV and to fly it into a sarkohole and to see if we could recreate this experience and have all kinds of instruments on board and everything.
Well, we had some pilots that agreed that they would help fly and chase the UAV and the fact that we would be outside the territorial limits of the U.S., we wouldn't have to get permission to fly one of these things.
And we could fly it through one of these thunderstorms and then see where it ends up.
Well, as the thing progressed over several months, everything looked good, but then everybody started to back out.
But I mean, sometimes in order to gain the knowledge, you've got to take some chances sometimes.
And it was a calculated risk, I guess.
And as it turned out, we didn't do it.
But I did take this one step further.
I said, well, look, my thought on the matter was if this is produced by thunderstorms in these types of fields, why can't we reproduce it in the lab?
Right.
So after a lot of these TV programs, I always brought a lot of instrumentation with me in the aircraft.
Well, I was taking measurements, gamma rays and frequencies and, you know, clouds, varying frequency from like six megahertz up to gigahertz into the tops of the clouds.
And so what I did was I selected a frequency that represented the freezing level, and I built a set of basic antennas, which were two dipoles, one at about what frequency you said at the freezing level, which is represented by what frequency, roughly?
What you're doing is I mean, we could probably use a lot of other frequencies, but we have gotten the results that we have with this particular set of frequencies, and therefore we don't really talk about that.
That's why we have our websites, and that's why we have our Facebook, and we post there all the results of our experiments and what we're doing and things like that.
In an actual fringe pattern that is projected as a result of the lasers hitting to the projection screen, it forms like a circle, and there's like kind of wave patterns into the light that's projected on the screen.
And there's actually, You can see differences when the system is on and when the system is off.
And that's what we did.
We took lots of measurements like that.
And the end result was we detected the fact that when the system was on, it compressed the laser beam into the screen.
And when the system was off, you know, the laser was then unaffected.
And then we also did another experiment where we just were outside our Faraday cage.
We ran the laser through there, through the motor, right through the midpoint of the focus of the motor, and we got the same results.
So we did a number of different experiments because we're probably more of the bigger skeptics than anybody else in the world.
Well, it just means that the center of this thing was more compressed than open when the system wasn't on.
So we got these results, which was very encouraging.
And then I also did a test for redshift.
If this was truly an effect, then we should be able to detect a redshift in the frequency, and we did.
And so we did numbers of measurements on that.
That meant that the frequencies were being pulled into the motor.
The device that we have, and if everybody in the audience starts looking at the pictures, you'll notice that this thing is shaped like a V. Most people would look at that and say, well, it's got to be thrusting.
It doesn't thrust, it pulls.
So everything goes in towards the V shape, which is, well, is extremely unusual because the way this thing is set up, you wouldn't expect that, at least, you know, the normal observer looking at this thing.
But our results have indicated that it creates a field, we call it the warp field, but it draws it into the engine.
And we've even gone as far as taking an isolated case made of glass and a wood structure top and bottom, and we have a torsion bar inside, and we mount weights on it.
We have ferrous material and non-ferrous material.
It pulls the materials, whether it makes no difference what it is, it will pull the material on the torsion bar towards the engine.
So that's another indicator that the fabric of space is literally being torn, is being moved through solid objects and being affected by something that's stationary.
In this case, a torsion bar, which is freely suspended.
Now, some people will claim, oh, you're just electrifying the air.
These experiments only run 15 seconds at a time.
There's no way you can energize or charge the air in that little amount of time.
And plus, we're over 140 centimeters away from the target.
And, you know, and yes, it's in a Faraday cage and all this type of stuff because, you know, we're still analyzing everything and all that, and we want to protect ourselves.
So now we kind of make a slight shift over here to NASA and to the Shire EM drive.
And many of the people in the audience probably have heard of that development of that engine.
They take microwaves inside of a chamber in a cavity, they bounce them around, and it creates a thrust.
So they put in several hundred watts of power, 1,000 watts of power, and they can actually get a thrust out of here, which is a very small amount of newtons here of energy coming out.
Well, in comparison to current ion drives and things like this, these particular motors are being looked at as replacements for these things because it doesn't require fuel.
Well, it's the same thing for our arm motor.
Now, they detected inside of their cavity, and they've published the paper, is that they've detected a warp bubble inside of the cavity, yet it still produces a thrust.
Now, ours was specifically designed to alter the fabric of space, and we draw the fabric of space or compress it into the motor.
And this is the actual way this thing works.
And our results are quite impressive.
In other words, we put in 900 watts of power.
We can see it being displaced down on our projection screen, 20 centimeters of linear displacement.
And that's a 0.36 newtons of force.
Now, we have, I was hesitant on doing this, but I put the charts out, the predictive line charts out onto the Facebook.
And these things really shows what happens exponentially.
And the encouraging piece of this is that with our 4,000 watts of power that we have, by the end of the year, after I've done the full testing of this, you know, you've got to realize I'm working five jobs.
I only have a few hours every day that I can devote to this stuff.
And I do.
A lot of times I'm out in the lab until midnight or one in the morning running these tests.
And everything takes an inordinate amount of time because of setup, process, procedure, because, again, we don't report to anybody, but for ourselves, we keep our records.
And so we have to make sure that everything is consistent, temperature, pressure, humidity.
And this means our spacecraft that we have, which is a one-quarter scale of a full 30 by 30 Bluebird 2, we have a quarter scale version of that, 7 foot by 7 foot.
And it is in its construction phase.
And I mean, you can see pictures of it.
It's pretty much completed.
It only weighs 40 pounds.
So what we're hoping to do here is to get this thing off the ground because this is what everybody wants to see.
Everybody can look at all the data they want.
They can talk and talk and talk and talk until they see something fly off the ground.
Yeah, we need to get it down to $1.50,000, less than $10 a pound, to get it to space and back.
And this opens up a whole new cadre of production, manufacturing, and space.
It allows people to go to space and come back and sleep in their own bed if they wanted to, or go to the moon and mine, go to Mars, go to the asteroid belt.
And instead of taking 10 years to get to Pluto, you make it there in about 15 minutes.
If you have adequate amount of energy and you're compressing the fabric of space in the same manner to which we're doing that at a lower power component here, but as I'm seeing and as a direct observer of my experience at 16, that's exactly what this thing was doing.
And I'm making a supposition here.
I can't actually state emphatically that that spaceship that I saw, the flying saucer, was powered by a warped field.
But it sure looks like it.
You know, from my investigations here, now I may be totally off base, but the results that I see here with this exponential component here on the predictive line and the amount of power needed, there's a breakpoint here.
And once that thing starts to go up, it doesn't take much more power to literally go a new equivalent velocity versus the speed.
I know, for some of you, this is very technical, and you're probably rolling your eyes and going, I don't get it.
So get this.
What we're talking about here is real.
Now, presently, we use giant rockets to get into space.
We go to the moon.
It costs a fortune, so much that we don't want to do it anymore, apparently.
We dream of going to Mars and beyond, but that will not happen with present technology, certainly not economically.
If we made a statement that we wanted to go to Mars, we'd be cutting a lot of budgets to do it.
So what the professor is talking about, the implications of what he's talking about, are so incredible that it's a real stopper, a world stopper.
And if DARPA or somebody or NASA isn't knocking on his door, they damn well ought to be.
I guess I'll go back to the question I had, and that is: the craft you saw, of course, was going very slowly.
So, would there be some way, Professor, conceivably, to modulate this so that you could either be stationary or you could be going from here to Japan in about a second?
No, because the problem is in the early 50s, the Congress passed a law saying that they had the exclusive right to go into the patent office and take whatever they wanted and deem it national security or whatever.
Well, I understand that, but I've tried to figure out, well, that's why we also are in the public venue of putting out a lot of our materials, not everything, but letting people know.
We've had over 75,000 people hit our site.
So if we go away for some reason, there are going to be a lot of people saying, hey, what happened to these guys?
And, you know, we're spread out all over the country.
So, you know, there's a family right now near Area 51 that's about to get kicked out of their property because the government's going to declare an eminent domain, take their property, and that's end of that.
Well, I think we've got a real problem with personal rights and intellectual property here that when the government feels that they can just come in and stop you from doing anything, what kind of freedom do we have here at that point?
When will you get to the point where you can do or could do if you wished a public demonstration that would leave no doubt in anybody's mind and would bring the door knockers that have thus far not come?
Well, I'm very hopeful with this new 4,000-watt system that is being developed right now and to be able to actually deploy this because this new system is going to be battery-powered.
We'll no longer be plugging into the circuits into the house here to run this thing.
Well, it will have a first, before we put radio control throttles inside that we operate from outside of the craft, we're going to have a cable that goes up and in that we can control it.
So this demonstration will be from the ground up a few feet.
How much more do we have to do?
Oh, no, that's fine.
And that's what our goal is.
And we'll probably, I hate making these estimates because when Murphy's around, that's Murphy's law, always comes knocking at my door.
And it just seems like when you're in this kind of involvement of, you know, we don't buy our hardware from some electronics firm.
You know what I mean?
All this stuff is custom.
We may buy some basic boards and we do use some very advanced power amplifiers, the MOSFETs, the LD MOSFETs.
We use a lot of that new technology.
And if that stuff hadn't come out, we wouldn't be able to do what we do because these linear amps that we build, they're only like three and a half pounds.
And so when we're going to strap four of these guys together, hook them up to our engine, hoist it up in a vertical fashion, and go inches or feet off the ground.
Like I said, and like you're suggesting, is that, well, how much more do you need to do?
So it operates in an air environment, and it would operate into a space porn environment.
So all the conversations and, you know, I've seen pretty much everybody's comments one way or the other.
It doesn't affect me because, you know, again, if I was to be influenced by anybody out there making their comments, then I would never get anything done.
Oh, I just ought to close up shop because it's not possible.
And I don't work that way.
You know, I'm UNO is considered to be their icon is the Maverick.
I am the Maverick, you know, In a sense, I understand that.
If I ran this program based and took action based on the comments, people listened to it early on, middle, and end of the show, God knows what I would do.
So you can't listen to people.
You have to keep going forward with what you know is right until you figure out, maybe I'm wrong or you are right.
I mean, you just can't listen to other people.
That's all there is to it.
Professor, hold on.
We'll be right back.
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This is really serious stuff.
My guest is Professor Paris.
He's president of the Space Warp Dynamics LLC, his company formed for this reason, a newly formed company that's conducting research and development of the first functional space warp motor.
Serious stuff, folks.
He teaches as an adjunct professor at the University of Nebraska in Omaha, teaches astronomy, meteorology, geography, geology, has taught college physics for six years, over six years now.
So understand who you're listening to.
Professor, so you are in time.
How far from the kind of demonstration that you talked about a little while ago?
Well, once the 4,000-watt system is fully assembled and delivered here, and then we test it and integrate it, we might be able to actually begin to see some really incredible results here by the end of the year.
There's actually been 13 engines prior to this one that we're building right now.
Each one has improvements, modifications, things that we've learned and discovered and get incorporated into the new design.
And these things aren't a trivial thing.
You just sit down and knock one out in an hour.
I mean, these things take months to do.
And with our new CNC machine that we bought, we have just got all that software up and running, and we've gone through our testing to actually begin to mill these things out.
We have seven of our new fractal designs that have been milled out, and we need 16 for each one of the for an individual motor.
And we can scale these up.
We can scale them down.
We utilize fractal technology in the sense that it allows us to compress and provide and put into a lot of forward power into the arrays and to generate these effects that we've described over the last hour or so.
Well, this doesn't violate the rule in the sense that the warping of space, in essence, what we're doing is not unlike what the planet Earth does, what the Sun does.
It alters the fabric of space in our solar system and throughout the universe.
So it's just not this constant plane where everything exists.
You actually have a compression field along the equator of the Earth and also the Sun.
And if you look at from an astronomical point of view, you see all the planets aligned like a pizza pie, you know, the central hub of the Sun.
But that's all due.
It's a very, very, you know, slight force, but it was enough to align everything along the plane of the ecliptic.
Now, Pluto, being the oddball out there at 17.5 degrees off the plane of the ecliptic, could be a pickup.
Well, that's what the big debate has always been.
Is it a pickup piece of a comet, you know, a bunch of ice out there, you know, and it just got into orbit?
That's a possibility.
But if you look throughout the universe, all the structures of solar systems are pretty much like a cookie cutter in that respect.
But getting back into the actual question there, the verification Of the essence of the fabric of space has been validated by the Gravity Probe B experiment.
NASA conducts, and government monies went into these things.
And it shows that the frame drag around the Earth does actually exist and that the fabric of space is altered as due to mass.
And so, in our context, what we're looking at is that we're in a relative form around the craft itself, we're just compressing the fabric of space in front of the craft, which then decompresses up and around and then pushes this thing forward.
Okay, you still have something of an energy problem, right?
Because you're going to be, when you begin talking about something the size of, say, a flying saucer, you're going to have to generate a lot of continuous energy now based on weight and based on how much do you want to compress the fabric of space.
In other words, for example, like we go 15 seconds, we go 30 seconds, the distance of linear displacement on the motors are actually an aggregate of that.
So the longer they stay on, the further distance they go, and more power that you provide, then the fabric of space is compressed even more.
Kind of think of this as kind of like an accordion.
Stretched out as normal space, compressed the accordion.
It's the same amount of space that you have when it's stretched out, and now it's just the same distance, except it's just closer to the, in this case, front of the spacecraft.
And so you're transiting between point A and B. And the other piece of this is that our anecdotal evidence of the aircraft that pilots reported over the years, you know, they accomplished the same thing.
And the other interesting piece of this, and I need to mention this, is that this fabric of space is not just a straight line.
It actually conforms to the mass of whatever's around.
In other words, in his case, he went in at 10,000 over 100 miles.
If he was a straight line, he'd be out in the upper atmosphere.
So if I'm understanding this correctly, if you had a craft that you had built and you went from here to Mars in a matter of seconds, you would not be actually traveling faster than the speed of light.
The effect would be traveling faster than the speed of light, but you really would not be doing that.
And we refer to this, at least in our jargon here on our team, we refer to this as equivalent velocity.
Yes.
And so it does not violate anything in general relativity because what we're doing is we're just kind of scrunching up the carpet and stepping over from point A to B. All right, now that doesn't mean there are not dangers that you cannot anticipate on doing this.
Well, and that's another thing that, again, research will prove out what happens when a particle enters into a compression wave in front of the craft.
Does it go right through there, right through the motor, right through the craft?
I can't answer that.
I suspect because of the compression, and this is just, you know, again, I will never tell you something unless I know it actually works.
And this would be totally speculative, but it appears to me from my observations that perhaps would actually route around on the compression field and then exit onto the sides of the craft.
However, I don't have verification for that, but that's what I'm speculating about.
Now, we also, you'll notice if you've done some research, and that's the audience inclusive of everybody, if you've looked at what space warp is about, many of the proponents of space warp was exotic energy, antimatter, all these other kind of stuff, and generating this big bubble 1,000 meters across, and then putting a craft inside of this thing, which is very impractical because you can't steer it.
And what we've done in our pod designs is we actually can generate multiple warp fields and combine them together.
And this is how we actually have full axial control on our craft that will build and initially just lift it up vertically.
But in the lab, we have put motors side by side, energized one with more power than the other, and it always will turn to the strong side.
So we have the ability to control the craft.
And this is in our constant endeavor to generate the flight control system software.
This is the whole evolution of what we do, is that we know the motors will work, and it's a question now of providing more energy, Scotty, please.
We have taken measurements or radiation measurements off the motor, and it's negligible.
It's like seven-tenths of one-thousands of a rem of radiation.
So we've done the measurements.
It's nothing.
The background radiation is like 8 to 12, and then during the strong side of the sun during the day, you can get up to 25 micro rems.
So there's 1,000 micro rems in one rem and so we're seven tenths of one thousandths of a of a micro rem So it's negligible and here's the other thing where a lot of people say well you're heating the air well we have infrared temperature sensors and we look at the ambient temperature between the arrays so does lightning well lightning can can heat up until 50,000
degrees Kelvin you know easily or 50,000 degrees Fahrenheit in our arrays when we shine the infrared sensor down there into the ambient air, there's no difference in the temperature.
So we're not generating temperature, and we're not in that sense of what a lot of people are accusing us of, charging the air.
I've discussed this with a couple of other scientists that work with the space metric of the fabric of space, in this case space warp.
And so they're on a theoretical basis.
They're working on teams that are trying to evolve motors and stuff.
And all the characteristics that we have identified and have actually presented on our websites are the characteristics of what you would expect to see if you definitely had a working component, in this case, an actual warp drive.
Now, this is way out of left field, but it does occur to me that if you actually demonstrate this, if you make this work, you are stepping on 5 million toes.
You know, characteristics of papers that I've read citing that faster-than-light travel in this kind of mechanism could be maybe 100 times, maybe 1,000 times.
Well, I mean, you know, the results of our experiments right now indicate we just hang this stuff from a vertical spring scale, and it pulls it down.
And we measure how many newtons of force.
It's minuscule at this juncture, but it's all due to the amount of power that goes into the system.
That's why we're building Model 14.
This thing can take a ton of current going through it.
That's the whole impetus behind the design.
We are at the point where we can't burn these on boards anymore.
We've got to get more and more copper on there to take the current that comes across.
We have to do matching circuits and all this type of stuff.
There are intrinsically, like I said before, all this equipment is handmade.
And this is why I don't push this stuff right off the bat.
Hey, here's 2,000 lots.
Just turn the throttle up and see what happens.
I can't afford to do that kind of stuff.
These things cost like $1,500 to $1,800 a unit when it's all completed.
And I've got all four units purchased.
In other words, all the equipment for it.
And so we're in the final state of putting together one more amp and integrating that into a quad combiner.
And so we can generate this 4,000 watts of output.
And this is where we feel that based on our predictive line chart here and the results that we've been able to verify over and I don't just do the experiments one time.
So by holding it as a patent, as holding it as a proprietary system and also trade secrets of the equations and all the other things that we've evolved and developed, we will maintain the control of the device.
And our intent is to not just produce engines, but our intent is also to build craft.
I intend to build when we sell a few of these motors that we can adapt to other applications, the monies that we receive from those things, if everything works out, is that we will complete the 30 by 30 foot Bluebird, the actual human-carrying craft.
And we will also install in that our artificial gravity system, which is the smaller motors, because we know that they work.
And we're going to create a small warp bubble within the craft and exterior to it with the motors.
And so we're going to eliminate a lot of the biologic problems of humans in space.
That's what our goal is.
And so, yes, we're going to be extremely Busy.
The team will grow.
But right now, nobody gets paid for anything.
And they've been together with me for like well over three and a half years now.
So if that doesn't tell you that these people believe, then everybody would have abandoned the project long ago.
I have a little bit of knowledge in this subject matter.
I was wondering if I could ask you a couple of questions because I've heard people discuss on various shows propulsion systems, and they always lose me once they get into this anti-gravity language and zero-point energy.
And even when you're talking about warping space, because I think there happens to be a simple process for ordering the direction of magnetic forces to get a propulsion effect.
And I don't think you need that kind of language to really explain it.
But I was wondering, when you were describing your experimental device, you mentioned there being that, you know, in the experimental model, there being a couple of dipoles.
And you talked about, you said there was a 140 centimeter distance to the target and then had to do with a certain frequency that you didn't want to disclose.
Are you generating, when you say the target, are you generating fields between the two dipoles?
Well, it's not just, we refer to them as tripoles.
And we have two panels, two arrays that are focused.
And we have a certain angle between those two arrays.
And this is where the near field of the cross action of these fields create this compression.
And the measurements that we have taken show us that the movement goes in towards the motor.
So we have redshift, we have compression of a laser beam, we have movement of ferrous and non-ferrous materials that if this was electromagnetic in nature, it wouldn't be moving non-ferrous material.
You see where I'm going from?
Are you coming to this?
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Because I was thinking that, I mean, anytime you create a source of flux, you have an electromagnetic field.
And if that field intersects with, let's say you have a source of flux, for instance, and in the near field, you have a conductor carrying electrical current.
The field from the source is going to impose a force on that conductor, right?
But at the same time, once you generate, in that conductor, itself is generating a field, which is moving back towards the source, and could create an opposing force on the source.
So you'll get canceling opposing forces just like two magnets will push apart or pull together.
However, there is a process, and when you're talking about the frequency, for instance, where you can create a situation where you either can create just a single force on one element, let's say, without there being a reactive force on the source element, or you can create a attractive force on one element and a repelling force on the other element unidirectionally in the same direction.
So you're not going to get opposing or canceling forces.
But so I wasn't quite clear if, you know, it's hard to figure out if that's what you were actually doing or if it was something a little bit different.
Because I don't imagine you're imparting any kind of electrical current on the craft shell or anything like that.
This is just internal.
I was thinking you were generating internal forces between your elements or your sources of energy.
And to that degree, I was thinking when you're talking about the amount of energy needed, if that is what happens and you're dealing with a specific frequency, and I was thinking that at 140 centimeters, you're talking something about 53, 54 megahertz.
I don't know.
But if you're to bring your elements closer together, because things operate on a square laurel, you bring them twice as close, you're going to get four times more force for the same amount of energy.
Well, we've actually conducted experiments that go from 30 centimeters out to 140, and we look at the swing rates on the torsion bar.
But the...
That's correct.
The effects are actually extend beyond the 140 centimeters that we have measured.
But we had a call quits at some point because we only have limited space.
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I was going to say, of course, you're going to get a variation.
You're going to go from maximum force to zero force if you're changing the distance while maintaining the frequency.
But if you close the distance, you up the frequency to keep the same proportions, and you're going to get the effect is going to continue, Except it's going to get more powerful.
So, the smaller you make your machine, the more powerful it becomes.
Until you reduce it to the size of an atom, and then you can imagine the forces you're going to get, and you're going to start to discover the basis for gravity, probably.
But the engine itself is constant energy in, and the variation of distance was an attempt to show the collapsing of the fabric of space around an object.
And in this particular case, we were looking at non-ferrous material and how it interacts and how it actually is attracted to the engine.
Okay, it goes towards the motor in this respect.
And it's in an isolated case of glass and wood.
And the fabric of space literally penetrates through all of this and literally pulls it.
Now, the other piece of this is we're developing a measuring device that has a set of passive Hull effect sensors, and these are our magnetic sensors.
And as the fabric of space collapses into the motor, it's going to pass through it all the magnetic fields that made the resonant of the normal space.
And as that passes by, we're going to be able to read and measure how this grid or how the effective field looks like.
So we're in the process of doing that.
We should be finished with that particular experiment.
I have another physicist on the team that's working on this.
He's a particle physicist, and he knows how to, well, we design the circuits, and what he's doing is he's building this stuff.
He's printing them out and putting them onto this gridboard.
And we'll put it in front on an optics table, and we'll have it at various distances to actually try to three-dimensional simulation or three-dimensionality of looking at the actual field that's created and how it distinguishes from 100 centimeters to 50 to 25 all the way up to the front end of the motor.
And so we need to see how that field looks because we know that we can combine engines together and create a warp bubble.
I know that I can put another array panel up on top and extend out from the dual arrays that we have.
And I can literally control the fields, altering them.
And this is another added advantage into manipulating the fields of the warp fields.
So we've investigated quite a few different characteristics to this.
And right now, we're at that point where we need to put it all together and lift this craft off the ground and eliminate people's rolling their eyes.
Based on the testimonies of these pilots that I interviewed and had reviewed documents about, there was no noticeable tidal effects.
Now, El Cupier had talked about if you do have a warp bubble, that there would be intense tidal actions on the outside of the warp bubble.
And when Gerning came out of his thing and he was over Miami Beach, there was no discrepancies.
No one observed anything in the atmosphere of any odd occurrences going on, nor the sea level, ocean surface being any kind of abnormal characteristics there either.
I have not noticed any abnormal effects of bending the light around there.
But again, you know, we're only working with a few thousand watts of power at this juncture.
And I don't think you're going to really see any kind of dramatic effect until you get up into, say, 100,000 watts of power.
My projection is that the way this exponential curve is going, and I've run it out beyond what I posted onto the Facebook, and man, it keeps running up and it doesn't really go past like 5,000 watts of power between 5,000 and 6,000 watts at the max.
And it just keeps going up in a straight line.
Now, however, with that said, you know, we can get too giddy about this.
And that as I continue with the methodical experiments and increase the wattage 100 watts at a time and take those measurements, as we get approach 2,000 and as we approach 4,000 watts, we will get a better predictive line graph where we have a better R squared value.
I think a lot of people listening are getting lost in some of the technical details, don't understand how this would change and don't, oh no, it's all right.
I don't mind at all.
I just'm trying to get people to understand how this would change the world.
This is the part that weighs heavily on my mind, whether I should go through with the whole thing or just put it in the garbage can.
I don't know if we're, as a population, And it's not just the United States, I'm talking the world that we're mature enough to know how to use a technology like this.
And because if it was weaponized, I think it would make a paranoia around the world that would be unfathomable.
You know, with nuclear weapons being a threat right now and rogue nations getting nuclear weapons, if you could deliver something in like seconds, there's no way you can detect this thing.
And Dr. Paris, I'd also like to comment on some of those last callers' effects.
Yeah, go ahead.
I'm a retired aerospace engineer, and I was one of those guys that checked designs and approved them for corporate and military aircraft.
But I also worked with twin 50-watt CO2 lasers in stereolithography.
And so I have a little bit of understanding about what you're talking about, but to put it in simple forms, have you considered the fact that this might be created from a feedback loop, not from the instrument that you're supplying power, but actually the warp that you're creating,
that the warp is trying to fill in the gap of this bubble, and it's actually being enhanced by this like a Venturi effect where space-time fabric is trying to fill in this bubble.
And this is what's causing you to see more power out than what you're putting in.
What we actually observed and measured was when the system begins to throttle up and create the warp field is we notice a negative flux into the motor.
Well, this is where I'm getting at, is when you turn the thing off, there's about a second and a half where this thing puts out more power.
It's the rebounding of the fabric of space.
That's what I can only interpret it as is this juncture.
Could it be electron bunching onto one of the arrays, and then there's a release at the end?
That's a possibility.
I've looked into this, kind of like similar to radio transmitter magnetrons.
There's a similar like effect there on electron bunching.
And so we haven't investigated that 100% yet because our goal is we're not going to get, I don't want to be bypassed by some other team that's out there because there's a lot of other teams out there trying to develop something similar to this.
And so we can't afford to stop and smell the roses here.
We've got to push forward well with caution of biologic of, you know, is this thing going to be dangerous?
And we've taken those measurements.
It doesn't appear that it is.
And everything that we know right now, it appears to be safe.
And our next step is to get this thing off the ground.
And any other effects there, we could study at a later date, but we need to get it off the ground.
He's developing a warp drive, or maybe we should say he has developed a warp drive, and he's trying to get a working model that would demonstrate beyond anybody's reasonable question that he has done exactly what he says he can do or has done.
In other words, get to the next level, and the next level is that level where people are going to go, oh, my God.
And it's also the level where they're going to begin to knock on his door.
And I'm sure, well, I'm sure you have anticipated, if it hasn't happened already, at that point it will happen.
And then how will you deal with the DARPAs and the NASAs?
I have had calls from other people through the backwaters, I guess.
And I've just turned them down.
You know, at this point, I can't take direction from somebody else to take a project over.
I'm not done with this, and I won't be done with it.
And the anticipation of when this thing is totally completed and we demonstrate beyond any shadow of a doubt what we've done at that juncture, we would look at licensing agreements, I guess.
Yeah, and we've thought about all of this, and my major concern is a misuse of this type of technology.
I know I will not be able to prevent it, but if everybody was in agreement, this could advance civilization to such a degree that we would reduce the famine.
The economy would be a boom going into space.
And this is something that we have to do as a civilization, or else we're going to die.
It's not just taking care of the Earth as good stewards of the land and water and whatnot, but it's a whole new paradigm shift.
There are so many people out there that want to go to space.
They're anxious to get there.
And they want to see what they can do and make their mark into space.
But it's a place that's never-ending.
And once you leave the solar system, you know, maybe it's Alpha Centauri, Proxima Centauri, maybe it's Gamma Epsilon.
Maybe the new one that is 1,400 light years away.
I believe this mechanism with sufficient power, of course, ours is operating on battery at this next plateau that we reach.
But there are definitely energy generation systems there, possibly even maybe a small fusion reactor.
Well, that's more efficient, our plutonium reactor.
Well, the purple plasma that you're seeing up there, you've got solar winds coming.
That's the flux transfer coming into the atmosphere.
And on certain occasions, when you get an overage of over 300 kilometers per second, you're going to see this stuff penetrate through the magnetosphere of the Earth.
About every eight minutes, this thing opens up and allows all this extra plasma to come in.
I mean, it's been ever ongoing since 16 years old.
Picked it up, let it down.
At that time, I didn't have enough knowledge to I comprehended what I saw, but I didn't have enough technical knowledge on how do I turn that into something.
That was the impetus behind everything of the detective story of correlating meteorological effects, space effects, electrical energy transferring back and forth, bidirectional flow of energy from ground to space, space to ground.
All of this was involved in that.
And then the subsequent discovery of reading some other papers of the tripole field structure within the clouds and antimatter gave all the various pieces of the puzzle to put together,
at least from my perspective, that paralleled El Cupier's theoretical projections of what space warp would be, what it would look like, and the manifestation of how it would occur.
And that's been the whole big bugaboo about all of this, is all these other teams trying to figure out how do you artificially engage in warp space.
It was non-sustainable from a thunderstorm, but given that concept of the internal structures, that's where it led me to develop these fractal arrays, or initially these antennas that simulated what happened inside the thunderstorms.
And I would also add that a banner day of when we had our first success of actually sensing the warping of space, October 15th at 6.15 p.m.
I remember that date specifically because that was the date my brother called me and we had a long conversation.
He goes, you did what?
He was four years older than me and he was always the guy punching me in the arm.
You know what I mean?
I was always the little boy, you know, the little kid, you know, and tagging along.
Get away, get away, you know.
Anyway, but that was a banner day of October 15th at 6.15 p.m.
And that's when we had our first positive results.
Well, personally, I would envision, at least in the beginning, before more sophisticated systems evolved, I'm not talking about the warp drive, but I'm talking about how to handle this thing, is that we would have air navigation lanes like we used to before going from point A to B, you know, airport to airport.
So we'd have specific air corridors where you would go one direction.
I mean, it would be as simple as that, I believe, to go from east coast to Europe.
And then a return corridor that's totally separate, and nothing else would be allowed to fly in those corridors.
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Okay, my last question, sir, would be, what if you had a technical malfunction inside the bubble?
Would you just simply wink out of existence or crash out of the bubble?
This is why if you have looked on our website and to the Facebook, the bluebird is actually a high-bypass lifting body.
And this craft, if something catastrophic like that occurred, power failure, whatever, this thing would still glide.
You could still fly it.
And if you wanted to put auxiliary engines, that's why, see, we're a proponent for adapting to repurpose craft.
So you wouldn't have to destroy a 777 and redo it all.
You put these pods on here, and then you would then configure the warp field, but you would still be able to then disengage at altitude the warp and then land conventionally at an airport.
And you would save, you know, probably up to 600,000 pounds worth of fuel and only have to utilize maybe 350 gallons of fuel to take off and land.
Thank you for taking my call and a good shout out to my friend PlayListing.
I wanted to thank the professor for his courage in the face of adversity.
And hopefully in the future, it's going to serve as inspiration.
And I just have two brief questions.
Sure.
Thank you.
First, would you be able to discuss any similarities to Eagle Works' research into the M-drive or possible funding from them or your reactions to their results?
And second, just to satisfy my own curiosity, because it's rare that I can speak to someone of your stature, do you have any thoughts on the theory that the universe could be a simulation?
I can only report that it feels like reality to me.
So I think that kind of takes care of that one.
I see it as what it is, as mass moving around, and we keep learning more and more as the days go on.
That would be really scary to think that this is all like the matrix or something, right?
And the other question, let's see, that was in context to – Sorry about that.
Let me just think here for just a second here of what he was.
Oh, in relationship to Eagle Works and what they're doing out there.
What they've actually done using the EM drive, and this is NASA Houston, and Dr. Harold Sonny White's team, they've explored the internal workings of the basically the chamber which they bounce microwaves around.
They have heating issues with that, and they have to readjust and retune this thing a lot.
Now, what they discovered with the warp bubble, and they also ran this in a vacuum, so it runs in a vacuum, runs in space, it runs in the atmosphere.
It's very low level as far as the amount of newtons that it produces, but I guess that could be boosted up with increased energy.
But the bottom line is what they have inadvertently done is kind of vetted our conclusions over here is that they detected the warp bubble inside.
Now, I don't know to what descriptions that they've got that, but they have indicated, at least in the press, that they discovered a warp bubble association with bouncing these microwaves inside of their EM drive by the Shire drive.
Actually, he's an engineer scientist out of England that built this back in 2001.
And people discredited him and told him that, nah, it doesn't work, can't work.
And now NASA's proved that it does work.
And so now they're interested in the thing.
They built one themselves.
So that relationship of these other teams are out there.
They're all going for the golden ring to pull it.
And we can't look behind.
We've got to keep moving forward.
And because we have limited funding, it's whatever I can earn and put into this project.
I really hope that we are the ones, the first team that comes in and can produce this satisfying vision of the craft lifting off the ground.
Of course.
I can't afford to build the Star Trek, the Starship Enterprise.
Now, other people have rendered it in picture form of the new Starship Enterprise or USS Enterprise.
I can't afford to do those kind of things.
I have to put my stuff into the hardware and into the software development and that.
So, yeah, we're always going at 1,000 miles per hour in a sense of trying to accomplish this thing, get this thing to fruition because we know that if we sit to the sideline for any given amount of time, we're going to get overtaken by somebody.
That's the EM drive, guys, over there in Eagle Works in Houston.
Ours is what we can determine at this point with all the results that we have, that it is a warp drive.
It alters the fabric of space.
Now, as far as the materials that the Bluebird is made out of, it's 063 materials, aluminum T6 that we use for the bulkheads, and we skin it with the 023 aluminum T6.
It's weldable, but we don't weld it.
We rivet everything.
So there's like thousands of hours that's gone into that thing to put all this together.
But our whole idea and concept has been to keep it as light as possible so that due to our power limitations, that we need to overcome so many newtons for so much weight.
And this is what was encouraging with our new predicted line graph: is that with our current power capabilities, well, in the next month or so, that when we go up to from 2,000 to 4,000 watts, this is where we have the breakpoint.
That now we can do some serious stuff, serious lifting with this.
You know, when you're talking about these kinds of technologies, there's this lingering question that I've heard from many other scientists that there's a delta T involved.
There's a change in time that when you use these zero point energies or whatever you want to call them, that you might be speeding up time around the area that you're using those technologies.
And that might actually speed up the time that the sun has the ability to use energy, that we're speeding up the time of energy in the sun, that it might burn out.
Well, it's just this delta T concept is that we're speeding up time around the local area and that that might burn out the sun too quickly and that might be a very obviously you know what I mean.
And so we have taken actual mechanical stopwatches and have a control, we have multiple stopwatches, and we go into the Faraday cage and position the watch in all different locations, have the control watch outside, we take photos of it, digital photos, and we make comparisons afterwards and there's no differential of time.
Now, Alcubierre also predicted that within the warp bubble itself, an observer from the ground, their ground clock would match identically to the clock within the craft itself.
So there is no time distortion with this thing.
Now, you may find a time differential in the actual line of the compression field itself where the fabric of space has been warped.
You may find a time differential there, but it has no effect onto the overall bubble itself because it then expands out and everything goes back to normal there.
We have analyzed that and we don't see any of the discrepancies.
And also Gernin's flight, there wasn't any time discrepancy between the clock towers and his aircraft clock.
I just haven't had that kind of luxury of time to play around with that kind of stuff.
I get a lot of suggestions through emails that are posted to our website.
And they're all very interesting, except I have to maintain my focus to get to the end goal here, and that's to get this thing off the ground.
And I would be more than happy is when I have adequate funding from selling this device, is to hire a whole team of engineers and scientists to analyze all the backfill, in other words, of all the other potentials of what happens and really narrow this thing down and be extremely specific.
Now, I don't want to give the impression that we're moving ahead so quickly that we're not considering biologic factors here.
We have and we do, and that's why we have a level of safety in our lab to protect ourselves from anything that goes on within the chamber itself.