Art Bell

All Episodes

Previous Next

Aug. 12, 2015 - Art Bell

02:16:48

Art Bell MITD - Open Lines September Doom

Participants

Main voices

01:06:37

Large

Audio Only |

Scroll

Show episode speakers

Speaker	Time	Text
art bell ▲ ● ▼		From the high desert and the great American Southwest, I'm Mark Bell.
		This is Midnight in the Desert.
		I bid you all good evening.
		It's going to be a different kind of show because our guest could not get it going.
		He had, we were to have a guest, Andrew Bachago, and he couldn't get it going right.
		His Skype connection had a big hum in it, and his emergency backup number, unfortunately, was a cell phone, so that's just sort of not happening.
		What is happening is open lines, and that means anything in the world you want to talk about.
		However, I am going to do a little bit of a setup.
		I was going to do this Friday, but now I'm going to do it tonight.
		First, the rules of the show.
		No bad language, only one call per show.
		We're so easy.
		Just two rules total.
		The thank yous go to Telos.
		Great sound.
		By the way, we are making tiny little tweaks and adjustments in the audio.
		So if you hear it slightly changing day to day, and you're going to hear a pretty big change actually in the programs that you're able to download, making a change there as well.
		So, you know, tweaks as we go along here with a brand new network.
		Keith Rowland, my webmaster of two decades.
		My producer, Heather Wade.
		The Bellgab website, they're great people until they're not.
		That's why I call them vaguely lovable.
		Just vaguely.
		People love R Bell and MidnightIndesert.com.
		Stream guys, they get it to you.
		LV.net gets it to them.
		And our sales guy, Peter Eberhardt, really a cool dude.
		If you want to advertise, it really works well here because we have so few ads, frankly.
		And so because of that, your ad gets all kinds of exposure.
		Well, okay.
		Let's review a couple of things that have happened during the day before I sort of launch with what I think we might do.
		You know, on open lines nights, I never know.
		And oh, by the way, by the by, I'm going to open a special line tonight in case my time traveler, the one of written fame, we were going to have a time traveler on tonight, but the one of written fame would like to call in.
		That number would be, well, let's see, which one do I want to use?
		Well, let me decide about that.
		I've got a number of numbers that I can use for a time frame.
		Here it is.
		I will use, it says here in find, well, I still don't know.
		I'll pick one of them.
		All right.
		Huge explosions.
		I'm sure you saw this, right?
		Overnight at a warehouse for dangerous materials in the northeastern Chinese port city of Tianjian, killed at least 13 so far, probably more, injured hundreds.
		It actually looked mostly like a nuclear detonation, frankly.
		Pretty serious stuff, and I'm sure there's going to be a lot more hurt.
		Former President Jimmy Carter announced that he has been diagnosed with cancer.
		I'm so sorry to say.
		In a brief statement issued Wednesday.
		Recent liver surgery revealed that the cancer is now in other parts of my body.
		That does not sound good for Jimmy Carter.
		Not good at all.
		And I want to take a moment to note the passing of Ann Strieber, Whitley Streeber's wife.
		I am so, so sorry.
		Ann passed cancer after a long illness.
		I spoke with Whitley earlier today.
		And when this kind of thing happens, you know, there really are not words.
		I know.
		People say all kinds of words to you, and there is nothing that works.
		So please note and have a thought for Anne Scriber, who passed.
		Okay, I do have a photograph on the website that I would like you to examine.
		It's pretty odd stuff, I would say.
		It's a UFO video captured.
		You're going to love this.
		Captured by Homeland Security of all people to capture a UFO.
	They did.
	They caught it on film, and they are analyzing it.
	It exhibited some very, very strange behavior, the object that is.
	The source is remaining anonymous.
	Yeah, I can imagine.
	And the officials are assuring us all that the source of this video is, evidence they call it, is vetted and identified.
	That's the source of the video.
	However, this is a UFO.
	Now, let's think about this.
	A UFO captured by Homeland Security.
unidentified		Who was ready for that?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Not me.
unidentified		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm going to do today what I was going to do Friday.
		We'll find a guest for Friday.
		And again, tonight's guest was unable to appear because, well, his Skype audio was full of hum, and his other phone was a cell phone, and I'm not doing that.
		That always ends up, well, like the explosion in China, pretty much.
		Have you noticed, ladies and gentlemen, that there is a tremendous amount of internet buzz, putting it mildly, about the month of September coming up.
		This is August, next month, right?
		Never have I seen, or I think has anybody seen, so much speculation about what would happen in one particular month.
		Some people believe that we will see an economic collapse next month.
		No, thank you.
		I'm still getting over the last one.
		Others believe that there'll be some sort of historic natural disaster, plenty of those lately.
		Others are convinced that judgment of God is coming.
		So take your pick.
		Right now, large numbers of Americans are stocking up on emergency food and supplies like crazy.
		I've never seen anything quite like it.
		Several weeks ago, the belief was expressed that chaos will begin once summer ends.
		If you look at the political world right now, it's happening now, isn't it?
		These are the last days.
		Maybe it's the last days not of man and not of the earth, but of normal political life in America.
		People are saying it's the last days of normal life in America.
		I'm sorry, I couldn't resist that, a political life.
		Just about everything that we currently take for granted is about to be shaken.
		It seems a lot of people lately are having a gut feeling that something really, really big is about to unfold, but nobody knows what it is.
		Maybe people are feeling that way because of the events that are taking place around the globe right now, from signs in the heavens to military stockpiling.
		And let's not forget the big military exercise going on, potentially disturbing events.
		There seems to be a confluence of activity, both in the political and spiritual realm, culminating in 2015, causing people's alarms to go off like crazy.
		Now, maybe backing that up is this.
		Scientists have predicted that a cataclysmic series of events could occur within the next 30 years.
		Now, they're not talking about next month, but 30 years, still not far.
		In a new report released by Lloyds this week, the university's Global Sustainability Institute in London has outlined its prediction of a global collapse brought about by food and water shortages, energy loss, and a period of prolonged political instability.
		Maybe they're watching our election.
		Supported by both the U.K. and U.S. governments, the report was commissioned for the purpose of assessing the risks associated with food shortages and other issues over the next few decades.
		Global demand for food is on the rise sharply, driven by unprecedented growth.
		The world's population is going to surpass 9 billion really by 2050, if we make it.
		To meet the increased demand for food driven by these factors, the FAO, the UN Food and Agricultural Organization, projects that we must more than double global agricultural production by 2050.
		Holy moly.
		So, look, it's open lines coming up.
		I'll have to dig out which line I really want to use for some special line tonight because I do want to hear from the guy who wrote the time travel thing.
		If he happens to be listening tonight or happens to be around or if he time travels, he already knows that I would be doing this, right?
		So I think here's what I will use.
		I'll use what I call my Roswell line for, and I'm particularly, particularly looking for a one-time traveler, the one who wrote me the extensive treatise on time travel.
		It would be the Roswell number, which is area code 575-208-7787.
		575-208-7787.
		Otherwise, I wonder how all of you feel about what's coming.
		There is a real jitter, a collective jitter going on out there about next month.
		Now, honestly, I do give some credence to a collective jitter.
		You know, I think there is such a thing as a community consciousness of some sort.
		And so it makes sense to me that if something were coming like animals that sense a predator sneaking slowly up on them, suddenly they know, right?
		An animal suddenly knows.
		Human beings are the same way.
		We're exactly the same way.
		Perhaps our sense has been dulled just a little bit.
		You know about that sort of thing?
		But it's still there.
		And so if you feel like an animal with something sneaking up on you, then maybe you're part of this, what the hell's going to happen in September group?
		I don't know.
		Anyway, I'm going to open the lines.
		So here are the numbers, the Art Bell version.
		Public number, one of them only.
		Area code 952-225-5278.
		That's area code 952-225-5278.
		But not the end of the ways to get hold of us.
		You may also Skype up, as it were.
		If you have a computer or you have a cell phone, either Apple or Android, I'm an Apple guy over here, then you can call us.
	Just put in, open up your iPhone and initiate a new contact and put in MITD51.
	You don't have to actually call, or you can, MITD51, and then hereafter it will be in your contact list.
	And you can just turn on Skype on your phone and hit M-I-T-D 51, and you'll get through.
	Let it ring until it's answered.
	If I don't answer, then try again.
	Keep trying until you get through.
	Now, outside of North, that number I gave you is for North America, America, and Canada.
	Outside of those areas, rest of the world, it's MITD 55.
	That's M-I-T-D as Midnight in the Desert.
	5-5.
	M-I-T-D-5-5.
	We love Skype calls because they sound so good.
	So what I would like to do now is take a brief break.
	And when I come back, I'm going to sort of take your temperature.
	See if you feel this onrush of here comes September and uh-oh.
unidentified		The devil went down to Georgia.
		He was looking for a soul to steal.
		He was in a bind because he was way behind.
		He was willing to make a deal.
		When he came across this young man sewing on a fiddle and playing it hot.
		And the devil jumped up on a hickory stump and said, boy, let me tell you what.
		I guess you didn't know it, but I'm a fiddle player too.
		And if you'd care to take a dare, I'll make a bet with you.
		Now, you play pretty good fiddle, boy, but give the devil his due.
		I'll bet a fiddle of gold against your soul, cause I think I'm better you.
		The boss said, my name's Johnny, and it might be a sin.
		But I'll take your bet, you're gonna regret, cause I'm the best it's ever been.
		Johnny Rocks up your bowl and play your fiddle heart.
		Cause hell, bro, boost your joy to the devil's deal with the heart.
		And if you win, you get the shiny fiddle bed of gold.
		But if you lose, the devil gets your soul She's got something that moves my soul
		And she knows I'd love to love her But she lets me down every time Can't make her mine She's no one's lover tonight With me she'll be so inviting I want her all for myself
		Oh, temptation has Looking through my, my, my Oh, temptation has You gotta love me You gotta love me My life Want to take a ride?
		Your conductor, Art Bell, will punch your ticket.
		When you call 1-952, call Art.
		That's 1-952-225-5278.
		This is a song that gets my blood going.
		I don't know what it is about this song, but the grassroots did it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I got to introduce him on stage up in Anchorage, Alaska.
		And it's always done it for me.
		If I want to get my blood going, man, that thing will get done.
		All right, so once again, our guest tonight, Andrew Bissago.
		I believe that is Crit Bissago?
		Yes, it is Cret.
		Besago.
		Unable to be here because of multiple sound failures.
		Too much hum on Skype when I called him.
		And then the back phone was a cell phone.
		And of course, we don't do that.
		That's just looking for nuclear problems.
		But what we are going to probably talk about tonight, although all these lines are blinking, I don't know what awaits.
		Truly, I don't.
		But I'm thinking that you're going to comment on this mass consciousness deal going on on the Internet.
		Going on, I guess, around the country.
		And I do give credence to it.
		I sure do.
		I think we are like what would I compare it to?
		Like, I don't know, some animal perched delicately in the forest with a cougar coming up behind it on soft paws.
		And then at the last minute, it turns and it knows that it's about to be dinner.
		Not a very good picture to draw, but that's kind of what I'm getting out of this internet buzz out there.
		Let's start by going to the islands, all the way out to the islands, to Hilo, Hawaii.
		Hello.
		Hello, Hilo.
		I think I've done it right.
		Yes, I have.
		Hello, Hilo.
		Hilo, Hilo.
		Are you there?
		Let's try it again.
		Now you're there.
		Hello.
		Hey, how's it going?
		It's going well.
		How's Hilo?
unidentified		Hilo?
unidentified		Actually, we're on the Hamakua coast.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Just boring old paradise, right?
unidentified		Yeah, we've got a storm coming our way.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You mean like a hurricane?
unidentified		Well, it was a hurricane.
		I went up to category four at one point, right?
		Oh, God.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, not good.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Not good.
unidentified		Yeah, it's breaking up, though.
unidentified		It's going a little south, but we're going to see some effects tonight and tomorrow, I'm sure.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		A little bit of excitement in paradise.
unidentified		Absolutely.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So what's up?
unidentified		Well, you know what?
		You know, this harp stuff is going on quite a bit.
		I want to ask Art about what he thinks about that.
		We've been getting chatter.
		We've been hearing chatter about this.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Wait a minute.
		Wait a minute.
		What is it you want to ask Art about?
unidentified		HARP in CERN.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, okay.
		Well, I can start with HARP.
		All right.
		I can help you out.
		You don't need Art for that.
		The deal with HARP is it's being turned over to a university, if you can believe that.
		The military is saying, okay, we're done.
		Here you go.
		University, you take it.
		That's what's going on.
		So you don't need to talk to Art for that one.
		What's the other one?
unidentified		Well, you know, we've got some new videos that have been coming in to us in regards to the HARP issues.
		And yeah, obviously, is it still going on as we speak?
		I don't know.
		You know, there's a lot of Crazy videos and photographs that we can share with Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Really?
		Well, Art knows quite a bit about HARP.
		What did these videos show that he doesn't know about?
unidentified		Well, you know, are you aware of the bullwhip lightning shot that just pretty much went viral last month?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I think I've seen a bullwhip lightning shot.
unidentified		Yeah, it's like a bullwhip lightning.
		We both can use on that.
		We interviewed the guy that shot it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Wait a minute, wait, wait.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Who is we?
unidentified		Third phase of moon.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, you're a third phase of mooner.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Why didn't you say so?
unidentified		Oh, thought I'd say it when I was asked.
		What phase of the moon are we in right now?
		We're in the third phase of the moon 24-7, actually.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, I know you are and your group.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I meant what real phase of the moon are we in, actually, right now?
unidentified		Well, tell them what third phase of the moon means.
		Well, third phase of the moon, yeah, I'm not quite sure if we could tell you the phase of the moon at the moment.
		We don't keep an eye on that, but it does arrive.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I heard you leave the phone.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You were trying to look outside, weren't you?
unidentified		No, it's still light out here, and actually it's raining, so we don't have a good look at it.
unidentified		I see.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, it was a good try anyway.
unidentified		It was.
unidentified		But a certain phase of moon describes old Hawaiian legend, and that is when the night marchers come out on the night of the Huakai Po, which means the phase of the moon.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I see.
		Well, okay.
		I'll tell you what.
unidentified		To share this new video that just came in last night, and it looks, I think it just blowed the audience away when they got to look at things.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, I'll tell you what.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You get that one to art, and the next time you call, I'll put you on with Art.
unidentified		Sounds good.
unidentified		So when should that be?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, you know, anytime Art's doing open lines.
unidentified		Okay, so what?
		Send this.
		Send it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Here, I'll give you his email address.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's artbell at artbell.com.
unidentified		Artbell at artbell.com.
		Right.
		We'll send it over.
		Give him the heads up.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'll do that.
unidentified		Hey appreciate it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, he's right here.
		So, okay.
		Thank you very much.
		Appreciate the call.
		Have a wonderful moon phase.
		Tallahassee, Florida.
		I believe you're on the air.
		Hello.
unidentified		Hi.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi.
unidentified		Tallahassee, Florida, duh.
		With the emphasis on the duh.
		Duh, really.
		Just curious about where all these people are getting the scary information and predictions about what's supposed to happen in September.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I don't know about September.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I know long term that down there in Florida, you guys are going to be wet toast.
unidentified		I know.
unidentified		And our Florida governor doesn't want anybody to speak of climate change, you know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Of course not.
		We're looking at, what, two feet in the next 50 years?
		So a good portion of, actually, I think, well, you're up there in the penhandle, right?
unidentified		Yeah, we'll be kind of high and dry.
unidentified		I'm afraid all the people that live in the Miami area will be coming up here.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Uh-huh.
		Interesting.
		So many people are trying to get through on Skype.
		My Skype just said, I give up.
		It didn't say that.
		It just said it has stopped working.
		I'm sorry.
		People calling on Skype, you're going to have to bring the program up again.
		That's really weird.
		You get so many calling, and it just goes, I give up.
unidentified		Well, I'm really low-tech.
		I sit at my PC, and when I get tired of that, I use my flip-top cell phone and put it on speaker and use the dial-in numbers.
		Gotcha.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Anyway, you'll be probably even there wading around and under a little bit of water.
		It's going to be rough and far.
		It really is.
unidentified		Yeah, I know.
		It already is in other ways.
		Anyway, I just wondered where people are getting this information.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's, I think, why I'm talking about it because, you know, this is all over the Internet.
unidentified		I know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I know.
		And I don't know, but I feel like I have to pay attention to it.
		You know, you heard me describe the animal in the woods, right, with a predator sneaking up on it.
		It's a little like that.
		And when all these people are feeling this, you can't ignore it.
unidentified		Well, I'm not afraid, and I believe that people shouldn't spread the fear.
unidentified		Just go with the flow, roll with the punches, be reasonably prepared, and just, you know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's an attitude.
unidentified		See what happens.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's an attitude.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And besides, if it happens, what can you do anyway, right?
unidentified		Right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I like that.
		So good call from Florida.
		Thank you.
unidentified		You're welcome.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Stay dry.
unidentified		Oh, yeah.
unidentified		And positive.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, positive.
		Okay.
		Yeah, the predictions for Florida after sea level rise are pretty dire, frankly.
		And New York City, too, it'll be under two.
		So don't be laughing up there.
		Laser Cat.
		Hello on Skype.
unidentified		Laser Cat here in Portland, Oregon, Art.
unidentified		Longtime listener, first time caller.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		KXL country, right?
unidentified		KXL country, it is, sir.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
unidentified		My prediction, what's going to happen in September?
unidentified		Jesse Ventura is going to join Donald Trump in the presidential race.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You think so?
unidentified		Yeah, that's what I hear, yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I think he's going to go for a woman.
unidentified		No, no, no, he's going to join forces with the body and the Donald's going to go all the way.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You mark my words.
		Okay, fine.
		You and I will have a bet.
unidentified		I say, Major Catton, you have a bet.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
unidentified		What are we betting?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's probably illegal to bet money, huh?
unidentified		I was going to say a dollar, but it's only worth maybe 38 cents now.
unidentified		So we'll go with 38 cents.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's a bet.
unidentified		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		That way you'll have a 38 cent check from me that you can frame.
		I don't think Ventura is any possibility.
		I think he'll go for, you know, especially in view of the recent remark that he made, not considered exactly pro-feminine.
		I think he's going to go for, if he's smart, he'll go for a woman.
		That's what I say.
		Hello there.
		You are on the air.
unidentified		Hi, how you doing, Art?
		This is John from Michigan.
		I'm a first-time caller.
		I've been listening most of my life.
		I really enjoy the show.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How old are you?
unidentified		27.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		27, and you've been listening all your life.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Wow.
unidentified		Well, yeah, most of it that I can remember.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yep, do you have any idea how that depresses me?
unidentified		I'm sorry.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		In the crib, you got to hear me, right?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Lulled to sleep every night.
unidentified		I wouldn't doubt it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, so what's on your mind anyway?
unidentified		Well, I have a question, but first I'll comment on what everybody's kind of feeling about the whole September deal.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And your comment is?
unidentified		Well, I. All right, now see you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, well, so now we've got to hold your comment until after the break.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So can you hold on through the break?
unidentified		Yep, no problem.
		That's good.
		All right.
		Stay right where you are.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The great American Southwest.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Here I am.
unidentified		Open line.
		I can see for miles and miles.
		It makes you feel so cold.
		It's got so many people, but it's got no soul.
		And it's taking you so long to find out you were wrong when you thought it held everything.
		Wanna take a ride exclusively on the Dark Matter Digital Network?
		This is Midnight in the Desert with your host, Art Bell, to call Art.
		Please dial 1-952-225-5278.
		That's 1-952-CallArt.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, there are other ways you guys should see my Skype.
		It's kind of humorous, actually.
		If you've never done really multiple Skype, you should see my God.
		I should take a picture.
		It looks like 500 Skypes doing a happy dance with the phone, you know, up and down, up and down, up and down.
		A little while ago, it was so bad it gave up.
		It just went, this program has stopped working.
		Anyway, back to my caller.
		And you've had time to collect your thoughts, think about it, and now you can say it.
		Go ahead.
unidentified		Hey, Erin.
		Well, like you said, like the animal in the wilderness, it's, you know, they can kind of tell the storm's coming or the volcano's going to erupt.
		They just kind of know it's, you know, just been kind of having a feeling that something's going to happen, something big, something's changing.
		Can't quite put my finger on it, but.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So you're one of them.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You feel it too?
unidentified		Yeah.
unidentified		Yeah, I'd say so.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Can you actually put words to the feeling?
		I mean, I talked about an animal in the forest, right?
		And that it could feel a prey coming up finally, usually too late, I suppose, but it does feel it.
		It turns around suddenly and then tries to take off, and then it's dinner.
		So, yeah, we have that too, a little dulled by modern society, I suspect, but we still have it.
		You've got that feeling.
		If you had to make a guess, what do you think is most likely?
unidentified		I think it's got something to do with the world government.
unidentified		I mean, kind of watching what's going on around the world.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, we don't really have a world government unless you want to talk about the U.N., and that's hardly anything.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You mean the world government, like, taking over?
unidentified		No, I mean, like, all the different world governments, how things are kind of changing around the world.
		And, you know, it's kind of something in the air, you know.
		It's something that it's hard to really put into words.
		You just kind of feel it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		It's the best way you just said it.
		Something in the air.
		Thank you very much for the call.
		Yeah, okay.
		You know, I can buy that.
		Something in the air says it as well as anything else, right?
		You feel something.
		You don't quite know what it is, but it's kind of eerie and a little chilling.
		Yeah, I'm so down with that.
		All right.
		Let's go to a time traveler.
		Now, this is a gentleman.
		I will not tell you where he's calling from, though I can see it if it's true.
		Of course, you can fake that kind of thing.
		He has been sending me messages on Facebook, and I told him next time we have open lines.
		Call in.
		Tell us you're a time traveler.
		Are you a time traveler?
		Hello, sir.
		Wait a minute.
		Make sure you're on the air.
		There you are.
		Are you a time traveler?
unidentified		Yes, sir.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Let's have it.
		I'm very critical as I listen to time traveler stories, you know, so it's got to be good.
		And what you've written to me was not bad.
		Let's see what you can do in person.
		May I begin by asking, are you in the present time, probably are, calling me, right?
unidentified		Yes, I'm here.
		And yeah.
		Okay.
		Same day as you are.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		By what method, when you do travel in time, by what method do you accomplish it?
unidentified		Well, I called European Lines, and I told you that I used my motorcycle.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, that's right.
		I forgot about that.
		Your motorcycle.
unidentified		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
unidentified		That's me.
		I can do it walking.
		I can do it driving in a car.
		I could do it on a motorcycle.
		I have never flown in an airplane, so I have no idea if I could, or even would want to.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You know, I think time traveling while on a motorcycle is worse than driving and texting, frankly.
		It just seems like, as I mentioned, I think last time, that you would reappear in another time where they've suddenly built a building.
		And, I mean, if you're on a motorcycle, that's just not going to be a good day.
unidentified		Well, you've got to kind of like know your geography a little bit.
		You've got to kind of use a street that's going to be fairly empty and that you are hoping is going to be fairly empty wherever it is that you go.
		And then there are sometimes, like when I went, I was in Arizona.
		I was on 40.
		We were on our way up to Flagstaff.
		We were in an argument about Teter in 2036.
		And we ended up at the rest area.
		We ended up going to 2036.
		And yes, Yellowstone does go poop.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Is it your what device is it?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, normal motorcycles don't get you from here to 2036 or any other year, right?
unidentified		No, it's me.
		I don't.
		Oh, I've let's put this way.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, then it's you.
		That's right.
		No, no, no.
		Hold on, hold on, hold on.
		I can go with that.
		It's you.
		What is it that you do that enables you to time travel?
		Describe to us what you do.
unidentified		Well, some of what I told you in Facebook does not go out, but basically you make a door, you put yourself into your own bubble reality.
		Some people understand what I'm saying.
		You understand what I'm saying.
		And then you go to the next side, which is the reality that you want to be in.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Is this done by your will?
unidentified		It's done by will.
		It's done through meditation.
		You learn how to, you know, when you practice the occult, you learn how to make your own bubble, your own protective shell.
		Well, it's the same thing.
		You're making your own little universe inside that bubble.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		An obvious question is, and people always want it.
		I do too.
		Is there a way to prove what you're saying?
unidentified		Oh, there is, but do you really want that proof?
		Well, I think I do.
		Do you realize I was sitting here today thinking about what I was going to talk to you about on Friday?
		And do you really want that?
		That's like, be careful what you wish for.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, but on the other hand, you know, the phrase here, extraordinary claims require what?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Extraordinary proof.
unidentified		Extraordinary proof, exactly.
		And I understand what I'm saying is totally unbelievable.
		You don't know me from Adam, and why shouldn't you believe anything that I'm telling you?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So that said, what do you got?
unidentified		A newspaper.
		I could bring you back a newspaper from 100 years ago.
		I could bring you back someplace from World War II.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Wait, wait, wait.
		You could get a newspaper from 100 years ago.
		Could be done.
		Could be done.
		But I would rather have one from 2036.
		Give me that.
		I'll be impressed.
unidentified		That's spoilers.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's what?
unidentified		That would be spoilers.
		Everything in the newspaper would be things that didn't happen as of yet.
		And when you get something from the future, it's like reading the last page of a novel before you even start the novel.
		And it sets everything and it spoils everything.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You think?
		I mean, like if your article from 2036 says BlackBerry stock up 300% in the last year.
		Now, if it had something like that, besides being unbelievable, it would be a way to get rich, right?
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Never mind.
		Nobody believed it anyway.
		So you could bring that.
		Is there anything you could bring me from 2036 that would be, you know, proof-like?
unidentified		if I could get my hands on them.
		Thank you.
		Thank you.
		Probably.
		A hoverboard?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		A hoverboard?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, heck yeah.
unidentified		A hoverboard.
unidentified		Lexus already released a hoverboard, but it doesn't work unless it's over a sheet of copper.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Did you say Lexis?
unidentified		Lexis.
		You have not seen that yet?
		You haven't seen the videos?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No.
unidentified		A Lexus hoverboard.
		Lexus has released a hoverboard.
		It works now.
		They make their own parts.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Wait, let's be clear.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Is this happening now or is this happening?
unidentified		This happens now.
unidentified		This happens now.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, then you're giving me current news.
		No, I hadn't heard it.
		It's cool.
		But I thought you were giving me news from 2036.
unidentified		A hoverboard that actually works without a sheet of copper underneath it to keep it levitating.
		Like back in the future.
		A real hoverboard that we would think of as a hoverboard, but we don't have hover cars.
		Where's our cars?
		Well, the oil companies won't let that happen.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You mean do we still have oil companies in 2036?
unidentified		We still drive the same cars as we did now, in 2036.
		Only it's got more computer stuff than you'd believe.
		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The same cars.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What a disappointing future.
unidentified		I can't tell you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And they still burn gasoline?
unidentified		They still burn gasoline.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, my God.
unidentified		There are a few cars out there that do, well, the very rich have them.
		Nobody else has them.
		They do fly.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, even today, we've got cars powered by electricity, for goodness sakes.
unidentified		Yeah, well, what can I say?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, well, hey, I'll take what I get.
		So we still have cars running on gasoline.
		That's actually depressing.
		What kind of shape is the U.S. in In 2036?
		Have we revived our infrastructure?
		Are we like a new country?
		Or is everything still potholes?
unidentified		2036, things are more like they would have been in Nazi Germany.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What?
unidentified		What I mean is you have to be very careful of...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Your type of show does not exist.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's long gone by then.
unidentified		Yeah, well, I'm not sure.
		It's all gone.
		You have to be very careful.
		Everybody tells on their neighbor.
		It's everything that we're scared of losing right now.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's a pretty horrible future.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I see why you're enamored with the past.
unidentified		Yeah, that's why I love the past.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Well, listen, thank you very much.
		Is there anything else that I failed to ask that I should have?
unidentified		Oh, I don't know.
		You talked to Dr. Jay.
		He's talked to me extensively.
		And if I could give a shout out to the swamp, hi, guys.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		All right.
		Thank you very much for the call.
		And I'd still be careful on that motorcycle.
		I'd just really take it easy on that motorcycle.
		Let's go to our Skype line and say, Peter, hello, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hey, Art.
unidentified		How are you doing?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Doing really well.
		Our guest didn't make it tonight, but you know what?
		It's okay.
		I'm so cool with open lines.
		I love them.
unidentified		Well, we're glad to have you back and missed you for the past couple years.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
unidentified		And the new technology is great.
unidentified		I'm calling in my Skype on my iPhone right now, and couldn't sound better.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		See, you're a perfect example of what I've been telling people.
		If they would put Skype in their phone, this is how you can sound, folks.
		He's using, what did you say, a 6?
unidentified		An iPhone 6, yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		It just sounds like you're sitting right next to me.
		It is so cool.
unidentified		Fantastic.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, where are you, actually?
unidentified		I'm in Lewiston, New York, which is north of Niagara Falls.
unidentified		I'm actually out in my backyard right now looking at the Percy of the Meteor Shower.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You can't tell me the phase of the moon, can you?
unidentified		Phase of the moon?
		No, I can't.
		It's not up right now.
		I see.
		All right.
		Well, actually, you know what?
		And you've been talking about time travelers.
		Well, I kind of have a time machine in my backyard.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		See, that's not a line you toss out like that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hey, I kind of got a time machine in my backyard.
unidentified		Well, I can't time travel, but I can look back through time.
unidentified		I've got a 10-inch telescope.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh.
unidentified		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		Yeah, I suppose.
		I suppose.
unidentified		I have a question for you.
		The other night you had, I think, Stan Friedman and another gentleman on.
		Yes.
		And who's the gentleman's name that was with Stan?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I don't know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I have to go back myself.
unidentified		Well, you know, all these moon deniers, the people that deny that we went to the moon, you know, the question I always have from them never gets asked is, well, then why, if this was faked, why did they fake the Apollo 13?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Actually, it was Jay Wagner.
unidentified		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Right?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And if you're interested in what he has to say, I believe that he is going to be Richard C. Hoagland's guest either tonight or soon.
unidentified		Did you know that disaster like Apollo 13?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, because if we had nothing but perfect moon missions, people would say, oh, come on, that many perfect missions when there's so much that can go wrong, that's just not believable.
unidentified		Well, I think we've gone to the moon.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So do I. Okay.
unidentified		Hey, Art, it's great talking to you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Great talking to you, too.
		And, oh, you sound like a good, grounded, sensible person.
		Have you been hearing all this talk about September?
unidentified		No.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh.
unidentified		I haven't heard a thing.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I see.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Did you hear what I said early in the program?
unidentified		Yeah, I was listening, but I haven't heard any scuttle butter.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, man, it's all over the internet.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Trust me.
unidentified		It is.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yes.
		Something heavy bearing down on all of us, whatever.
		All right, Eric.
unidentified		Have a good night.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You have a good night, too, and thank you very much for calling.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		On the international Skype, you are on the air, I think.
unidentified		Hello.
unidentified		Is this me?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It is.
unidentified		Hey, Arpel, how are you going, mate?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm well, Mateon.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Where are you calling from?
unidentified		Australia, of course.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Australia.
		Excellent.
		I was hoping England so I could brag that I got paid by somebody in London.
		And, you know, I just, you know, when you get a check, you just throw it, well, I do anyway.
		I just throw it in the checkbook for the next time I go to the bank.
		And I thought it was for $390.
		And I looked down at it when I got to bank and it said £390.
		I went, yes!
		Like $1.45 or something like that.
		Better than dollars.
unidentified		Yes, a lot better than dollars.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How's the Australian dollar doing?
unidentified		Not good against the American dollar.
unidentified		I think we're buying 60 cents to the dollar, I think.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you know, it's the world right now, sir.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Everybody is so scared that everybody is rushing to the dollar for safety.
unidentified		Yes, it seems that way.
unidentified		Yeah, anyway, I called about the time traveler thing.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yes.
		In what sense?
		I mean, are you claiming to be one?
unidentified		I am claiming to be one.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, my.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
unidentified		Would you like me to get into it?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I absolutely would.
		A time traveler from Australia?
		Hell yes.
unidentified		Go.
		Yes.
		I was born 17 hours in the future.
		So I'm always 18 hours ahead.
		They call that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's pretty cheesy, sir.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, you're referring to the time difference between myself and you?
unidentified		No, I'm talking about universal timeline.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're saying, okay, let's use GMT.
		All right?
		Are you claiming that you were born 17 hours fully ahead of anybody's time zone?
unidentified		Correct, yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That must be a real problem for you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, how are you even calling me right now?
unidentified		Well, I'm where I am.
		I can call and do everything else.
		It's not until events happen that I get summoned and then sent places.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, events happen, things happen.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You get summoned by who?
unidentified		I can't really give you the name, but yeah, they're a three-letter actually.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's a three-letter agency.
unidentified		Four-letter agency.
		And yeah, I'm like a contractor.
		I get probably five or six calls a year.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Like a time contractor.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Right?
unidentified		Yeah, I'm a time contractor.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
		Hold on.
		I've got a break.
		We'll be right back.
		Open lines from the high desert.
unidentified		Hey!
		J.J., leave them kids alone Midnight matters are best handled by those that understand how to move in the darkness like Art Bell.
		To call the show, please dial 1-952-Call Art.
		That's 1-952-225-5278.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That is the terrestrial telephone number.
		Skype, North America's MITD 51.
		That's Midnight in the Desert 51.
		If you're outside the U.S., totally, like our Time Traveler from Australia, it's MITD 55.
		M-I-T-D-55.
		And of course, it's a free call on Skype.
		And okay, Mr. Time Traveler from Australia, you're back on the air.
unidentified		Hello.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oi.
unidentified		Oi.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So what else can you tell us about time travel from your perspective that we should know?
unidentified		Well, there's nothing on my timeline that's any different to the timeline that everyone else is living on.
unidentified		It's quite hard to explain, but I was born 17 hours in the future, and so basically time catches up to where I am.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Out of curiosity, how old are you in linear years?
unidentified		I'm 31.
unidentified		I was born the 29th of August, 1985.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		See, I was wondering, if you were, the moment you were born, you sprung that many hours into the future.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You must have literally jumped out of some doctor's hand.
unidentified		I was born on base.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		On base?
unidentified		On base.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Military?
unidentified		I grew up in Alice Springs, so that's sort of the only clue I'll give some savvy people.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh.
		Okay.
		What else can you tell us about your method of time travel?
unidentified		Basically, I get flown around just like a normal person gets on a plane and flies somewhere.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Right.
unidentified		Yet I arrive before the event.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And your job is?
unidentified		I'm called a fixer.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		A fixer.
		So something obviously has gone wrong in the timeline through somebody else's error or some other time traveler screwing up or just history going the wrong way sideways or something.
		And is that it?
unidentified		It's usually the former, yeah.
unidentified		It's usually it's left up to just normal terrestrial people just making the wrong decision and shaking things up a little bit, yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And so you fix these things and time flows smoothly?
unidentified		I wouldn't say smoothly, but it flows differently.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Differently.
		That's the way to put it, I guess.
		Yes.
		Do you like your work?
unidentified		I love my work.
		Yes.
		It's been a lifelong thing.
		I didn't get employed or I won't get fired.
		It's just a, yeah, I was born into it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Right.
unidentified		Literally born into it.
unidentified		I get it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I get it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Your work never involves, well, wet work, does it?
unidentified		No, not at all.
		I occasionally stop a bit of wet work.
		Yeah, that's a fair bit of my job, actually.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I see.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So in other words, you prevent wet work, saving lives.
unidentified		Saving lives, yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But haven't you ever wondered that if you go back and you save somebody's life who otherwise would be killed, they might go on to become another Adolf Hitler?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Then what have you done?
unidentified		I have thought about that a lot, but the intel I get, I get like a pack, and it tells me just a brief about where I'm going and why.
		And usually what I'm stopping is a pretty bad event.
		So, you know, when I weigh it up, it's usually.
		Yeah, okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So in other words, those who send you back really know what needs to be done so that it all turns out okay.
		Yeah, I get it.
		Okay.
		Do you know the actual method they use?
		I mean, you say it's like flying, but I mean, you must get in some kind of machine, right?
unidentified		No, as far as I'm aware, this all happened in this facility.
		I was born into the future.
		So when I get sent to, say, Venezuela, I'll go to the airport, I'll get a ticket, and then I'll get on the plane with normal passengers and land in Venezuela.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Has the Australian government shared this with their American brothers?
unidentified		This is the agency I referred to would have to give the government certain things, but they would have no idea the full extent of it.
unidentified		No.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, one more quick question.
		We're discussing this feeling that so many people have about September.
		Being a time traveler, you probably would know, even if you cannot disclose, if something really, really big is about to happen soon.
unidentified		I get my assignments less than a day before.
unidentified		So the 17 hours is crucial.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I've got it.
unidentified		So if something were to go wrong, I've got 18 hours to fix it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Do you want to give us a name so that in the future I might recognize you, other than your accent?
unidentified		Well, just call me Jay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Jay?
		Jay, the time traveler from Australia.
		Jay, thank you for the call.
		I do appreciate it.
		And actually, you sounded pretty good, frankly.
		I kind of like that one.
		I don't know why.
		You get a sense about these things.
		Some of them, you know, I'm going...
		That's the best way to put it, huh?
		Hello there on Skype.
		No, I guess you're not on the air.
		This poor person gave up just before I went.
		Here she is.
		I believe it's Amanda.
		Hello, Amanda.
unidentified		How you doing?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, you don't sound like an Amanda.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How are you doing today, Art?
unidentified		No, it's my wife.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		This is my wife.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Amanda is your wife?
unidentified		Yeah, this is my wife's Skype.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
unidentified		Long time listener.
unidentified		Long-time listener, first-time caller.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
		Okay, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
		You're going to have to get good and close to the microphone on your computer.
unidentified		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Because you're breaking up a little bit here.
unidentified		Can you hear me now?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I do.
unidentified		Okay.
		Like I said, I'm 33.
		I've been listening to you since I was 12, Art.
		Long time listener, first time caller.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, ma'am.
unidentified		I've been having some weird stuff going on in my house.
		And I've never had this stuff happen before.
		And when I mean weird stuff, I'm hearing taps, knocks, lights turning on and off by themselves.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Really?
unidentified		Yeah, and the taps, the weird thing about the taps is an online gamer, so I'm not sure.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I can swear I heard something.
unidentified		They heard the taps through the microphone.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Don't do it now.
unidentified		It freaks me out every time it does it.
unidentified		Me and my son, as a matter of fact, was sitting in here like three days ago in my living room, and lights down the hallway were turning on and off.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Not good.
unidentified		So, I mean, they're not, I don't know if they're hostile.
		I don't know if they're mean, but it's not an old property.
		It's only been here since 92.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You'll know, sir, soon, sir.
		You're wondering if they're hostile?
		You're hearing knocks, and you're hearing bangs.
		Yes, you'll know soon.
		It may be no more than pieces of you that will be able to tell whatever forensic story we can piece together.
		I shouldn't joke about this.
		It could be very serious.
unidentified		As of right now, like I said, I mean, they haven't done anything to me or any of my kids, but I mean, it's good.
unidentified		Well, the knocking and the lights turning on, you know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, well, so this could be like a poltergeist.
unidentified		Possibly, yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Generally, a poltergeist usually doesn't go really nuts.
		They just drive you nuts doing the kinds of things you're talking about right now, and they really don't go any further.
		So if that makes you feel any better.
unidentified		Well, maybe.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I do understand.
		There's stuff out there to scare you.
		There's no question about it.
unidentified		Thank you, sir.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're very welcome, and please call again sometime if you're able.
		Sorry about that.
		I shouldn't say those things.
unidentified		Let's see, where to go.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Let's again go outside the country and say hello, Mark, wherever you are.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello, Mark.
unidentified		Yeah, hi, Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, you are there.
unidentified		Good.
unidentified		Hello.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello.
unidentified		I'm calling you from Bern, Switzerland.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, you know what?
		That makes you my first Swiss.
		I've got a whole bunch of questions for you, actually.
		What a cool place to be.
unidentified		Yeah, it's actually a beautiful city.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I wonder so much about Switzerland.
		I have never been there.
		It appears to be a gorgeous place.
		People say that everybody, are you an actual, are you a citizen or are you visiting?
unidentified		I became a citizen 19 years ago.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Really?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Do they actually give machine guns to everybody?
unidentified		If you're in the Army, you do get a machine gun.
		However, it's a semi-automatic.
		However, you get the ammunition in a tuna fish can.
		And if you open it, you're in big trouble.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Really?
		You mean it's like sealed or something?
		Break this seal, and the Swiss bankers will squish you.
unidentified		Well, not the Swiss bankers.
unidentified		The Swiss government will squish you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I figured the bankers have most of the power.
unidentified		Yeah, I became a citizen at the age of 36, and at that time, Army was required until 42.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Wow.
unidentified		So I served in the Civil Defense Corps, and I never received a weapon, which is okay for me.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I see.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, is it a pretty cool place to live, as they go?
unidentified		It's a very interesting place to live.
		It's a good place to live.
		Sometimes I would say the people are not the warmest people on planet Earth.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Let's see.
		What do I want to ask about Switzerland?
		Cost of living really high or low or what?
unidentified		Cost of living is high, but the salaries are skewed to compensate for that.
unidentified		And the taxes are relatively low in comparison with other European countries.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		By any chance, did you hear what we were talking about, this thing coming up in September?
unidentified		Yeah, I've been hearing about it mainly on the radio.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		On the radio.
unidentified		On internet radio.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, well, there you go.
unidentified		I have a question for you.
		Sure.
		Is JC still with us or has he left the planet?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You know, it's actually a pretty good question.
		JC stopped updating his Facebook page about, I think, about a month ago because he is a friend of mine on Facebook.
		So what you're asking is a valid question, and I don't have a valid answer other than what I just told you.
unidentified		Okay.
		By the way, Art, I had a question, another thing.
		Seth Shostak and SETI, they have never shared the data with an external group, have they?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Not that I am aware of, no.
unidentified		Because if one wants to say, to wonder whether or not they're withholding information, they should share data with other independent researchers and allow others to evaluate the data without Seth being the monopoly king.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Well, look, let me just come straight out and ask you.
		Do you buy everything that Seth says?
unidentified		Not particularly.
unidentified		No.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You think he is holding back information?
unidentified		Absolutely, yeah.
		I mean, there's just too much.
		There's too much.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, let me jump even past that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Is it your opinion he's holding back evidence of extraterrestrial conduct?
unidentified		Whether it's him or the organization, I would say yes.
unidentified		Wow.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, listen, you go down as my first caller from Switzerland, and it's really cool talking to you.
unidentified		It's a pleasure from my side, Art.
unidentified		You have no idea.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Really cool.
		You might as well be sitting right here.
		It's such a good connection.
		Are you on computer, I guess?
unidentified		I'm on an iPad.
		It works wonderfully.
		Skype on an iPad.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Astounding.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you so very much for the call.
unidentified		My pleasure, Art.
unidentified		Be well.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Take care.
		You be well, too.
		All the way from Switzerland.
		What a world.
		That was right track, then left track.
		I'm Art Bell.
		This is Midnight in the Desert, raging in the nighttime, open lines, anything you want to talk about, especially and particularly September.
		Will We Make It Past That Month?
unidentified		When the sun comes up on a baby little town Down around Santa Claus And the folks that ride them on all the day Round to bound their home Get in with me Show the smile for the people what you need
		Hi, I'm Asia Bell, and it's very late, so I'm sleeping now.
		But you're awake, so call my daddy because he's awake, too.
		The number is 1952-225-5278.
		That's 1952.
		Call I that's my sweetie.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's Asia.
		Good morning, good evening, good afternoon, wherever you are in the world.
		And clearly we cover all of it.
		This is Midnight in Desert.
		And you know, maybe I'll just junk the whole idea of guests, and I'll just do open lines all the time.
		It is so much fun.
		Just kidding.
		Although I may do more of them, I enjoy them so very much.
		Here we go.
		Sean on Skype.
		You're on the air.
unidentified		Hi.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Sean.
		Attention.
		Sean.
unidentified		Is it?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		Oh, wow, Art.
		Oh, wow.
		It's an honor.
		Thank you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's good to have you.
unidentified		I'm glad to hear that you're back and you haven't skipped a beat.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It appears not.
		I don't know.
		I always worry, you know, before I go back on the air, will I be okay?
		And it's always there.
unidentified		Yeah, but sure, you're back stronger than ever.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
unidentified		It's pretty amazing.
		Anyway, yeah, good show tonight.
		But I'm just glad you're back.
		There were nights, you know, 20 years ago where I was sitting late night, listening to our bell, you know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		A more important and pressing question is, are we doomed next month?
unidentified		Ah, boy.
		You know, I'd kind of like to think that we're not.
		But, you know, like one of your callers said before, there is something in the air.
		Something's coming.
		You know, there you are.
		I'm not too sure what, when, you know, but something's in the midst.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I agree.
unidentified		Yeah, it's this thing about the presidential running and all this stuff.
		I don't know if that's so much it.
		I think there's something, sir, it's just part of it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You mentioned the presidential race, the stuff going on with Trump.
unidentified		I mean, it's amazing.
		I don't think it's anything along that line.
		I think there's a weather change.
		There's all these changes that are going on in the world today.
		And it just seems like everything's coming to a head.
		I don't know.
		I mean, I don't want to scare everybody, but I just think that there's just something there.
		That's as far as I'm going to put it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Something in the air.
unidentified		Yes.
		Yes, definitely something in the air.
		And could I say a hi to a friend of mine?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
unidentified		Hey, Paul M. Hey, what's up, man?
		I got on.
		woohoo is this like a Yes, I got on with Art Bell.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, you sound awfully good.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		just curiosity, what are you running talking to me on?
unidentified		Oh, actually, I built my own home computer.
unidentified		I'm running four separate monitors: an eight-core AMD Athlon processor, and it's an awesome setup.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What kind of bus speed?
unidentified		I'm overclocked about 4.8 on my processors.
unidentified		Holy gigahertz.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Holy moly.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And you built this yourself?
unidentified		Oh, yeah.
		I built it myself from the ground up.
		Oh, yeah.
		MCI all the way.
		MSI, I'm sorry.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, let me tell you, it sounds really, really, really good.
unidentified		Awesome.
unidentified		Cool.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
		Awesome.
		Cool is right.
unidentified		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you very much for the call.
		Call again sometime.
		And I guess if there was a bet, you won it.
		Let's go to Kimberly.
		Hello, Kimberly.
unidentified		Hi, Arbell.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You don't sound like a Kimberly.
unidentified		No, I don't.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No.
unidentified		But I'm from Belgium.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're from Belgium?
		Okay.
		I would assume that somebody named Kimberly probably.
unidentified		No, my name is actually Kim.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Kim.
unidentified		Yeah, but I write always Kimberly.
		Okay.
		But it's Kim.
		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Kim and from Belgium, that's really excellent.
unidentified		Yeah.
		I do listen a few years to you, and I like the shows.
		We don't have that here in Europe.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Why do you think that is?
		Why do you think Belgium, for example, would not have a show about the paranormal?
		Because it should be worldwide.
unidentified		Yeah, I really don't know.
		Maybe they're not interested in it.
		I think so.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, what generally gets people interested in the paranormal is when something paranormal happens to them.
unidentified		Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		Anyway, there is this feeling, and it's being expressed worldwide on the internet about something big coming in the next month.
		Do you feel any of that?
unidentified		Yeah, I've seen a lot of it on the internet.
		I don't know what to think of it.
		Maybe it's just paranoia.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, the part that bothers me is it's obviously worldwide.
		So that would have to be a worldwide something.
		I mean, what are we waiting for?
		The sun to blow up or what?
unidentified		I don't know.
		I don't know.
		I really can't tell.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You heard the way I described it, right?
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		As kind of an animal in the woods with the predators sneaking quietly up and like that, yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Stay close to your microphone there.
unidentified		Oh, yeah, yeah.
unidentified		Yeah, it's a PC setup, and I have to stay close to my mic.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, one of these days, go up, buy yourself a mic headset.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		They really work well.
unidentified		Yeah, yeah, yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		In the meantime, anything else?
unidentified		It's the first time I come through, and now I don't know what to say.
unidentified		I'm happy to talk to you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And I'm happy to talk to you, too.
		And it's my first call from Belgium.
		So now I've had my first call from Switzerland, and now Belgium.
		How neat is that?
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, my friend.
		Thank you very, very much for calling.
		Feel free to call again.
		Going to the phone lines.
		Anonymous, I believe it is.
		You're on air.
		Hello, Anonymous.
		This is your chance.
		Going once.
		Going twice.
unidentified		Hello?
		Going hi, Doug.
		It's Idaho.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Idaho?
unidentified		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're on the air, Idaho.
unidentified		Okay.
		I've got a couple of questions for you.
		And thank you for so much for getting back on the air.
		You know, you were my savior years ago.
		Thank you.
		When I used to deliver papers overnight, I couldn't have survived it without Liz.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
unidentified		You're welcome.
		That's not why I called.
		I live 22 miles from West.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You live 22 miles.
		Wait a minute.
		You broke up from where?
unidentified		West Yellowstone.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh.
		West Yellowstone, yes.
		Has the ground been shaking up there?
unidentified		Yes, it has been.
unidentified		No, I curious about that because if the worst should happen, I won't even know it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, there is that.
		I mean, being 22 miles from West Yellowstone, you're right.
		If the worst occurs and it's Yellowstone, then, boy, you'll just be ash.
unidentified		Yeah.
		Yeah, and I don't worry about it.
		I love this country up here.
		It's just wonderful.
		We're doing from Massachusetts and Western Massachusetts, that is.
		Not to be confused with the eastern part of the state.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Of course not.
		Well, all right, sir.
		I hope that things go well for you and that I don't see you falling near me somewhere as Ash.
unidentified		No, no, no.
		And like I say, I don't worry about that.
		But what I do like is the fishing here.
		I'm in Island Park, I think.
		And the fishing is just unbelievable here.
		It's what Keeps my sanity right now.
		And anyway, you have a great night, and I'm so glad to talk to you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, I'm so glad I talked to you.
		And soon they'll put a cell tower near you somewhere.
		Robin, I believe, on Skype.
		Hello.
unidentified		Hello.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Can you hear me?
		You're a little loud, so you can back away a little bit, but I do hear you.
		Sure.
unidentified		Oh, good.
		Hi.
		I just wanted to make a quick call from Berkeley, California.
		Oh, welcome you back.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
unidentified		And the other night when you were periscoping for the first time.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yes.
unidentified		You.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Actually, it was the second time.
unidentified		Well, it was the first time you were doing it.
unidentified		It was like several weeks ago.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		And you had that clock up above you, that clock that you saw at Radio France.
		Yes.
		I had to laugh when you said that because I have an app on this tablet that I have that's the same kind of clock.
		And I, too, saw it at Radio France.
		I've never seen it anywhere else except in your studio and this app that I've got.
		But I was taking the tour.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Radio France International.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		And there was a phone.
unidentified		I said, that's the coolest thing I ever saw.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I know.
		Hey, can you hold on?
		All right, hold on.
		We'll talk clocks when we get back.
		Yeah, it is a cool clock.
		There's no two ways about it.
		It's expensive.
unidentified		Cool clocks don't come cheap.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But I love it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And I've got three of them, baby.
unidentified		Pedro is my name.
		Want to take a ride from the high desert and the great American Southwest?
		This is the Night in the Desert, exclusively on the Dark Matter Digital Network.
		To call the show, dial 1-952.
		Call Art.
		That's 1-952-225-5278.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And there are other ways.
		Good ways, too.
		I mean, if that man can call from Switzerland, down like that, you can do it too.
		No matter where you are, North America is MITD51 for Skype.
		I'm telling you, just put it in your smartphone.
		M-I-T-D-51.
		Then hit it, call us.
		Outside North America, it is simply MITD55.
		M-I-T-D 55 right now.
		Back to our discussion about clocks, actually.
		Hello there, caller.
unidentified		Hello again.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
		Again, you're a little broken this time, but I think we can do it.
		So you've got one on your smartphone like this.
		You don't actually have one of the big ones here, do you?
unidentified		No, I don't have the physical clock, but I do have an app on this tablet I have.
unidentified		Right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But that's not the same.
unidentified		Let's see, let me turn the playback volume down here a little bit.
unidentified		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, that's not the same.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You've got to have the big clock on the wall.
unidentified		Oh, I'd like to.
unidentified		Where do you get them?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You know, I'll tell you, but it's like a free ad for these people.
		I'm going to call them up and tell them maybe my guy, my sales guy up in Alaska is listening.
		I mean, they should be advertising with me.
		B-R-G.
		B like boy, R like radio, G like George.
		Look it up.
		It took me so long to find it.
		It wasn't even funny.
unidentified		Yeah, it's a great-looking clock.
		Hey, by the way, I wanted to ask you something, or just let you know something.
		I put Skype on here mainly for this show.
		In fact, entirely for this show.
		And also, I got the app that you were talking about the other day for the podcasts.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, how's that going?
unidentified		It's going real well.
		I got it hooked up okay.
		And the nice thing about it is I didn't want something that would automatically without you being able to tell it to do so.
		It wouldn't automatically download episodes without you physically requesting them because there's only so much space on the tablet and so on.
		So what it does is it gives you a bunch of little buttons, one for each particular show.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
unidentified		And if you want to hear that one, you click download and it downloads it.
unidentified		So you're not filling up your hard drive or whatever you call it in a tablet with shows that maybe you've already heard them or something.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It is cool beyond belief, isn't it?
unidentified		It is, yeah.
unidentified		It's really nice.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you very much for the call.
		He's right.
		What we're doing is state of the art through and through.
		People are working.
		You wouldn't believe how we're working.
		We're working on the audio.
		We're working on the audio for the playback shows.
		We're working on the RSS feed.
		We're doing all of this at once.
		It is a very high-tech network being put together by people who truly know what they're doing with an awful lot of help from some good people over at Bellgab.
		I mean, it's going very, very well.
		And if you have not yet seen the RSS feed, so-called, on your podcast player, it's incredible.
		I mean, even me, I had never seen it.
		I put it on my iPhone 6, and I almost dropped over.
		It was so cool.
		That's all I can tell you.
		You've got to give it a try.
		And by the way, if you're not a time traveler yet, and by that I mean with our program, get with it.
		The price goes up August 20th, and so you can still get in as a time traveler, and you want to do it now before the price increase, because if you become a time traveler now, then you are frozen grandfathered in at five bucks.
		So it's really, really, really a good deal.
		I can't recommend it enough, and you need to do it now before the 20th, before the price goes up.
		Let us go to Pete.
		Hello, Pete.
unidentified		Hey, Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hey there.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Where are you, Pete?
unidentified		I'm in Makati, Philippines.
unidentified		I called you your first night on.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yes, yes, yes, yes, my first and actually only caller so far from the Philippines.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How are you doing?
unidentified		Doing good, doing good.
		Um, you were talking earlier about HAARP, uh, yes, and I wanted to tell you a story I heard here about HARP after our big storm down in Tacloban.
		Yes, Filipinos somehow were watching YouTube videos that someone came up with a theory that HAARP caused that storm.
		Have you heard this?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm not surprised.
		You know, I'm sure that they feel that it did.
		I personally don't think that it did.
		Now, what I do think is that HARP has screwed with the ionosphere and may have contributed to bad radio conditions.
		But, you know, even that's a guess.
		I don't know for sure.
		Weather modification?
unidentified		I just heard this.
		I thought it was interesting.
		Now, about this time thing you're feeling.
		Well, this thing in September.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's all over the internet.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Have you seen it?
unidentified		I've heard some stories.
		I don't really think it's anything.
		I just don't feel something inside.
		But what I've noticed, and maybe since about mid-2005 or so, is that time seems to go faster.
		Well, like, you know, all of a sudden, it's August.
		It was just Christmas.
		It seems like weeks ago.
		And it seems like time over a course just seems to go faster.
		And I remember when I started feeling this, I lived in California at the time, and some old-timers down on the boat, I lived on a boat, would tell me just because you're getting old.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, there is something to that.
unidentified		So that's all it is?
unidentified		I'm just getting old, and time goes faster now.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How old are you?
unidentified		I'm 47.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		47.
		Well, when you're one month old, then, you know, a day is basically a 30th of your life.
		So, you know, it seems to go very slowly.
unidentified		And you remember when you were a kid, summer would breeze by and Christmas seemed to take forever to get there?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, of course, but that had to do with the fact that school was coming and I was dreading it.
		I didn't really like school.
		But I saw it coming like a brick wall.
		And so, yeah.
unidentified		And you remember waiting for Christmas and waiting for Christmas just took forever?
		And now all of a sudden it's August and we're going to see Christmas decorations here.
		You know how Philippines are.
		They start in September.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I know.
		Everything should be almost lit up by now.
		They've put them on stoplights.
unidentified		They start early.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		They close everywhere.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		There's no separation between religion and government in the Philippines, right?
unidentified		Absolutely.
		I love it there, though.
		I hope you come back and visit sometime.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, our condo is there and waiting.
		I maintain the condo in Global City.
		So there you go.
unidentified		Yeah, you mentioned that.
		Excellent.
		Well, I live in Legaspi Village right near Greenbelt.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
unidentified		And I actually have a meeting in the fort in 3 o'clock.
unidentified		So in an hour and 15 minutes, I'll be in your old neighborhood.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, all right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Listen, tell everybody how is it to drive in Metro Manila?
unidentified		Not as bad as L.A. I lived in L.A. for 15 years, and I still think L.A., I lived on the west side.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, come on.
		L.A. can be bad, but it's nowhere near like Manila.
		In Manila, it's the strong survive, period.
unidentified		The first rule of driving here, there are no rules.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, he's exactly right.
		All right.
		Thank you very much for the call.
		Take care.
		Yeah, that nailed it.
		There are no rules.
		First rule of driving, there are no rules.
		If you stop for a stop sign, you're probably going to get rear-ended.
		And that's a fact.
		Let's go to Corvallis, Oregon.
		You're on the air.
		Hello.
unidentified		Oh, hi, Art.
		My name is Bob.
		I'm a longtime listener, and I got to say that when I first heard you in the 90s, the moment I heard your voice, I stopped and listened.
		And the reason I stopped and listened is there's something about you.
		I got in an instant trance of hypnotic, humble, open-mindedness, and I've been there ever since.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Really?
		Yeah, that's really nice of you to say.
		I don't know.
		I don't know what to say to that.
		But thank you.
unidentified		Well, you're welcome.
unidentified		I wanted to make a comment about Seth Showstack from yesterday and also a topic I would suggest for a future program.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Fire away.
unidentified		Okay.
unidentified		Well, the thing about Chef Zostak is I really...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		S-E-T-H.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Seth.
unidentified		Seth.
		Okay, I'm sorry.
		Okay, well, you know, I really admire the work he's doing, and for one thing, I keep going back and forth as to whether I think there's a cover-up or, you know, he truly, we truly haven't heard a single.
		You know, I don't know what to make of that.
		What I did want to say, though, is I get very frustrated by anyone, and I know he's a scientist, and he wants, as he said, physical evidence would be the only way he would believe that UFOs are here on Earth.
		But what frustrates me is just how the readiness to discount any eyewitness testimony.
		You know, I mean, you take Travis Walton, you know, and I say to myself, you know, take his experience or take your experience seeing a UFO.
		It gets to the point where if you share so many eyewitness testimonies and the scientists are quick, not just Seth, but scientists, discount all of that, it's almost as if, and I sent you a wormhole question about this yesterday, it's almost as if saying that, okay, does that mean that you would then, if you're of such a belief, release every single criminal that's ever been convicted without physical evidence?
		I mean, I just got very frustrated.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
		I completely understand.
		So, you know, I'm not sure myself about Seth.
		You know, I'm sure you can hear it in my voice when I talk to him.
		I'm sort of challenging a little bit, if you will.
		And, you know, he bounces back quickly, so I keep it up.
unidentified		But I have some doubts, frankly.
		Yeah, and I respect him.
		I just wish that scientists and eyewitness folks, you know, everyone, I wish we would all just, you know, have more of an open mind to work together.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Can't we all get along?
unidentified		Right?
		That's what I meant about your show, about being humble and Open-minded because I just think that that's something that all of us, you know, I think it's a good exercise, and that's the reason I love your show so much.
		But, anyways, as to the guest, the topic suggestion, have you ever done a show on self-hypnosis?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, I have not.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm worried that, you know, I'd like trance out in the middle of the show.
unidentified		Well, I won't mention anyone in particular, but I found that self-hypnosis is something that works really well for me.
unidentified		I listen to it at night before I go to bed.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I do know other talk show hosts who sound like they do that and sort of trance out.
unidentified		Well, what I like about it is it's basically meditation with self-guided affirmations, and I find it works extremely well.
		I use it for stress relief.
		I work in a very stressful job, and it just does wonders for stress relief.
		There's another topic I love to listen to on Power of Now.
		It just helps me embrace the moment, and I find that it just does wonders for me, and it's drug-free.
		And the reason I thought it would be an interesting topic is if you could ever find someone who does self-hypnosis, but maybe does some of the cool stuff, let's say someone who does self-hypnosis to get you to have an out-of-body experience, or self-hypnosis to go back to a previous life, and maybe they might even sell tapes or have them for free.
		It would be really interesting.
		And then guess, you know, us as viewers could check that stuff out, try it, report experiences.
		That kind of angle, I just think would be interesting.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How about hypnosis for nicotine quitting?
unidentified		See?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That'd be all right.
		I do.
		All right.
		Thank you very much for the calling.
		That's what I would go for.
		I have gone from cigarettes, which I dearly love and miss, to the gum, which was okay.
		Then to electronic cigarettes.
		And then to the little lozenge.
		They have this new lozenge that you can get.
		You just put it in the corner of your mouth.
		None of those and the patch.
		Let's not forget the patch.
		So I have tried them all.
		And I sort of stick with what I can, but I am still hooked.
		My advice to you is don't smoke.
		Don't ever smoke.
		Don't start.
		It gets you very quickly.
		And I'd be willing to try hypnosis.
		Nobody has ever successfully hypnotized me.
		I have tried, by the way.
		Jeffrey, I believe it is.
		Hello.
		Hello, Jeffrey.
		Oh, gee, you're going to miss your chance, Jeffrey.
		So many people calling.
		Oh, well, that's life.
		Ciao, brother.
		Let's go with Scott.
		Hello, Scott.
		Oh, my God.
unidentified		I'm so happy you're back.
		Yes, thank you.
		So I have two suggestions for shows.
		The first is about consciousness and quantum mechanical interconnectedness in our neurons.
		And that would be with the physicist Roger Penrose and or Stuart Hammeroff.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I have a number of shows coming on consciousness, not yet with those people.
		Do me a favor, would you please, because this really is one of my favorite topics, honestly, email my producer.
		And the way you do that is producer at artbell.com.
unidentified		Okay.
		And then I have another suggestion for a show.
		Sure.
		I know you're pro-global warming, but I've never actually heard a scientific debate on any media outlet at all about global warming.
		And I mean, I can give you the 30-second argument.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Let me tell you, brother, I've got shows coming up on global warming.
		I would not go so far as to say I am pro-global warming.
		I just think the science is correct.
		So I guess in a way it makes me that.
		It just sounds bad.
unidentified		Well, I'm a scientist.
		And I always wonder why the radiative forcing model of global warming put forth by the IPCC filters the solar output using an 11-year linear average instead of the heat capacity of the global oceans.
		For example.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, right.
		Stop there for a moment and just tell me.
		Do you think that the science on global warming and the proof, frankly, so far is what you would call settled science?
unidentified		Well, I think it's actually fraudulent what's been put forward.
unidentified		I've actually read the IPCC report, and you cannot, it leaves out the only energy storage component in the entire system, which is the heat capacity of the global oceans.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Calculating the But the heat capacity of the global oceans, sir, is rising along with everything else.
unidentified		No, the heat capacity is how much energy the ocean can hold.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, fine, but the actual temperature of the ocean is rising.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's a matter of science.
unidentified		Not according to satellite data.
unidentified		Oh.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Get under some of these Cat5 hurricanes and cyclones and typhoons that are occurring.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And, I mean, what you're saying is just doesn't hold water, sorry.
unidentified		Well, you know, I was number one in classical physics at the University of California, San Diego.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Congratulations.
unidentified		Yeah, I took cosmochemistry from Hans Seuss, the man who discovered we were putting CO2 or carbon into the atmosphere.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How many parts per million now, sir?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How many parts per million now?
unidentified		I don't know.
unidentified		We're probably, I'm guessing, 350 parts per million, but I haven't checked it in years.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Like 400.
unidentified		That may be.
unidentified		But, you know, we've continued to increase the amount of carbon in the atmosphere, but the temperature hasn't risen, not in the last 20 years.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Say what?
		We're hitting record after record after record.
		Now, that doesn't mean everywhere.
		That doesn't mean that if you're sitting up in Green Bay soon, you may not say, my God, it's cold, and they talk about global warming.
		That one doesn't work.
		You know that.
unidentified		Oh, no, But the data being, there's more than one data set.
		And there's the data put forth by NOAA, which is adjusting the raw data.
		And when you look at the actual raw data, the regression line through it shows a very real cooling trend for the last 18 years.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Where does your data come from, BP?
unidentified		No, you can find data.
		You can find data.
		I can recommend there's a couple of very well-known places.
		One is Stephen Goddard.
		There's a blog from a guy who posts all this stuff.
		But it's all government data.
		And there's also data, I believe, collected in Alabama.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
unidentified		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Listen, we're coming to the end of this hour, and I've got a break, but I'll tell you this.
		I'm going to have on plenty of climate guests, scientists.
		So you, at that point, are welcome to call them up and have at them full-tilt boogie, all right?
unidentified		Cool.
unidentified		I recommend Nir Shaviv, astrophysicist from the University of Jerusalem.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'll keep that name in mind.
		Thank you very much for the call.
		And stay tuned, everybody, because there is going to be a lot about that.
		I'm Art Bell.
		This is Midnight in the Desert.
unidentified		What is it for?
		Absolutely nothing.
		Listen to me.
		Oh, I despise.
		Costing me the strong self of this life.
		What's set in the dark stays in the dark?
		Call Midnight in the Desert at 1-952-Call Art.
		That's 1-952-225-5278.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Just like Over the Hill in Vegas.
		That stuff stays there too, right?
		Generally.
unidentified		Good evening, good morning, good afternoon, wherever you are in the world.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm Martell.
		This is Midnight in the Desert.
		Somebody reminding me, Art, artist technology isn't new.
		That's new to us, sir.
		And actually, it hasn't been around generally anyway that long, but it's definitely new to us, and we love it.
		And if you're using it, I bet you love it too.
		And what a way to get shows.
		It is just flat.
		Awesome.
		All right, going to Michelle out there somewhere or another.
		Hello, Michelle.
unidentified		Hello.
unidentified		How are you?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm so well.
		Let's see.
		Let me guess.
		You're in Japan.
unidentified		That's right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How's everything in Japan?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Boy, I saw a video of something that hit Japan pretty recently, a typhoon.
unidentified		Oh, yeah, we've had a couple here recently, but where I live, we're not getting them because they keep either going east of us or west of us, but never straight through us.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's a good thing.
unidentified		Yeah, I think we've got Mount Fuji kind of blocking the way a little bit.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, go ahead.
unidentified		Yesterday, I called and embarrassed myself by talking about the Doctor Who thing, which I discovered thanks to Seth, was an April Fool's joke, which I found out later had been reposted by a legitimate website on a different month, and so they didn't realize that it was an April Fool's joke.
unidentified		But to repay for my mistake, I thought I would point out to you that your time traveler is bunk.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's a pretty harsh word.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's a pretty harsh word, bunk.
unidentified		Well, your time traveler talked about bringing you a hoverboard from the future.
		They have them now, and they were being developed by Lexis.
		This is a news story that went around.
		There was a video of it.
		Tony Hawk was helping promote it.
		He was actually in the video, and they had these hoverboards.
		They were new.
		They could only be used on certain surfaces.
		But it looked really cool, and they had actual video of it.
		Well, the whole thing was staged.
		It was a crank between Lexis and, I believe it was Lexis, and Tony Hawk and some other company who created this digital film.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, but what if in the future Lexus actually does develop something like that?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, what is...
unidentified		He said it was now, and if he was from the future, he should have known that it was fake and not tried to use it as an example.
		Thank you.
		Yeah, but he said right now.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you've got a good point.
		In other words, a known hoax should not have been used.
		He should have picked something.
		Yeah, I've got you.
unidentified		He didn't say like next week or in a few months they'll have it.
		He said right now they have it.
		You can see it on the internet.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Good point.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Very good point.
unidentified		Hate for it.
		I'm always looking for that one time traveler.
		You have one on your old shows that called and talked about the year 2001 or 2002.
		And I went back and I was listening to that on an archive somewhere.
		And I mean to tell you, it was freakily close.
		I was really, I was, my skin was just, I was getting chilled.
		I was sitting in my car at work.
		I used to deliver and listening to that.
		And I had chills.
		It was about 10 years later.
		And so much of what he had talked about was true.
		It was back during the Mad Cowell disease and all that kind of stuff.
		Oh, yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yes, yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I recall.
unidentified		That one really just made me like just my skin crawl.
unidentified		It was.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		There have been some good ones.
		And also, there was Evelyn Paglini, and that woman nailed almost everything she predicted.
		It was amazing.
unidentified		It's really sad that she's gone now.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It is.
		It is.
		And I am actively looking for another witch.
unidentified		Yeah.
unidentified		Oh, hey.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Would you like to apply?
unidentified		I'm not a witch, but if I was, I'd be letting you know.
unidentified		On show topics.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		I'll just throw out there, my two favorite topics are the ancient aliens slash ancient civilization stuff.
		I just love it.
		Ever since I was a kid, I've been fascinated with Atlantis and ancient civilizations because I went to a Christian school and they taught all this stuff, but it made no sense to me about why there wasn't more before it.
		And I wanted to know what was going on in the world before all this kind of stuff.
		And the other one was I really loved the stuff that Malachi Martin used to do and then other stuff about conspiracies kind of involving the Vatican and those kinds of things.
		So those are my two big things that I really enjoy.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Wow.
unidentified		Here you had Graham Hancock on there, and that was good.
unidentified		I kind of wish he had talked a little bit more about some of the structures and that kind of stuff.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, we're working on, so you know, we're working on Robert Baval now.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yes.
unidentified		I'm not sure I've ever heard an interview with him.
unidentified		Maybe I've only heard one.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, well, you're in for a treat.
unidentified		Does he have kind of a French accent?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		He has an accent.
unidentified		Of course, an accent.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		I think maybe I've heard him once.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		You'll like him.
		And we have many others that are coming up that you're going to love.
		Trust me.
unidentified		Great.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Thank you.
		Thank you very much for the call from Japan and Ohio Gazamas.
unidentified		Ohio Gazamas.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Good morning in Japanese.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And it is indeed morning there.
unidentified		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		My Skype is going berserk.
		I have never seen Skype, never have I seen Skype go this berserk.
		What happens is the people begin stacking up behind each other, and there are so many calling that every now and then it simply throws up its little Skype hands and seems to give up.
		But let me give it a try.
		Janice, I believe.
		Hello.
unidentified		Hi, Eric.
unidentified		How's it going?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's going pretty well.
unidentified		Colin from SoCan, Washington, longtime caller.
unidentified		First time caller.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What are you calling on, huh?
unidentified		Well, I'm, well, I was calling on a tablet.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm okay.
		Here's what you've got to do to sound really good.
		Find a place on your tablet.
		It's probably like a little hole, you know, where the mic is.
		And talk about two inches away from that in just a normal voice, and you'll sound really good.
unidentified		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's good.
unidentified		Well, I'm calling you because of.
		Let's see.
		How's that?
		Is that working better?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Much better.
		And everybody could hear it improve.
		Yes, much better.
unidentified		Okay.
unidentified		It's just my phone being weird, I guess.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, no.
unidentified		Well, I want to call about the September.
		You talking about September.
		Oh, yes.
		Literally, like, I'm telling you, for the past two or three years, you know that feeling like your vacation is about to come to an end?
		Oh, yes.
		Like the last three days.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Totally.
unidentified		And everything's moving slow but fast at the same time.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Of course, yes.
unidentified		I have felt like we're on just the teetering point, and I don't know what it is, but it's in the air.
		It's in the sky.
		It's heavy, whatever it has been.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How about this?
		How about this?
		We're in Tahiti, and we're on the beach sipping these little nice drinks with umbrellas in them, and we're about to have to return to Southeast L.A. tomorrow.
unidentified		And we know we don't really want to, but we have to.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, I know the feeling.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So you really, honestly, have that too?
unidentified		Oh, and it's not just me.
		I mean, I'll just randomly talk to people that I've just met.
		And that's like a constant thing.
		It feels like something's coming, whether it's some kind of economic collapse or an issue with the presidential race, something environmental, some kind of earthquake, pole shift.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, let me read this.
		Let me read this to you.
		This is from somebody named Sarap.
		Okay?
		Regarding September, lately I've been having the same recurring nightmare.
		Buildings blowing up in major cities everywhere at the same time.
		Last night, the dream also included an exploding train in Grand Central Station.
unidentified		I hate sleeping these days.
unidentified		You know, I haven't had any reoccurring doom dreams like that, but on that note, have you seen the film Jupiter Ascending by the Wachowskis?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You know, I haven't.
unidentified		There is a reptilian, I guess, race in that movie.
		I've seen it twice now.
		And I mean, nothing about the movie, but the voice that they used, there's like an interesting kind of clicky tone voice that they gave the reptilian character in that.
		And I've had reoccurring dreams for the past couple of years where it feels like I'm about to have an out-of-body experience and I can hear a voice exactly like that reptilian in that movie.
		And when I first saw the movie, it gave me the chills.
		Like I had to turn it off and walk away because I started having flashbacks of these freaky dreams that I've been having ever since I was like 15.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Maybe the reptilians are coming.
unidentified		You know, I don't know what it is.
		I try not to think like that, but it's weird too.
		Like if you look up in the sky, everything feels different right now.
		I don't even know how to put my finger on it, but it's true.
		And it's almost like at my core, I'm almost, I'm going on 30.
		But it almost feels like in my subconscious paradigm, I've never planned for a future.
		I've never had a huge drive to have a career that I'll retire.
		It's almost like I know that I don't really have a real long one, if that makes sense.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It does.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It would be a scaly way to go.
unidentified		I mean, at 30, I've never considered children, marriage, college, career.
unidentified		Like, it almost just is like, I just know that it's not going to be the way that we think it's going to be in at least 10 years.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, I want to ask you, in view of the way you feel about that, how does that, it must affect every aspect of your life.
unidentified		You would think that it does.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Every decision you make.
unidentified		Right.
		And it's weird because you'd think that it, you know, like I'd think I sound like a bum.
		But like I said, in the last two years, it's almost like everything has been pointing to that something's coming.
		I was, I had this strange opportunity to start working for a wonderful woman, an entomologist.
		I have no background in it.
		I was an art student.
		She picked me up, and I've been working for her for the past couple of years.
		And it's like all these serendipitous little things.
		I've always wanted to see Machu Picchu.
		She brought me to Machu Picchu.
		I've always wanted to fly over the Nazca Lines.
		She took me there.
		She took me to Tikal.
		I've been to Guatemala.
		I've been to the Galapagos Islands.
		All these things that I've seen.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's kind of like she knew you.
		Yeah, it's kind of like a bucket list.
		She knew how to fill it.
unidentified		Or, you know, kind of like something was just handing me the things that I knew I wanted to see before.
		Before I was done.
		So I don't know, but I mean, it feels like it.
		It feels like.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I get it.
		I get it.
		Trust me, I get it.
		All right.
		Listen, thank you for the call.
		Thank you very much for the call.
		Even though I don't know.
		That was kind of depressing, huh?
		Can you imagine your entire life being decisions being made, plans being made, knowing that you're not going to make it?
		That's really something.
		Let's go here on the phone line.
		Say you're on the air.
unidentified		Yes, Art.
unidentified		How are you tonight?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm quite well.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Last caller depressed me a little, but otherwise fine.
unidentified		Okay.
		Well, perhaps I should let the time travelers go and call you another night.
		But I heard you talking.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no, no, no.
unidentified		Okay.
unidentified		I heard you talking about the long-delayed echo that you heard on ham radio on the 80-meter band.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Let me strengthen that statement a little.
		The long-delayed echo that I verified, sir, when I was telling Seth about it last night, I moved, you know, the thing you would suspect is somebody recording and playing you back.
		And so I moved several kilohertz up, several kilohertz down.
		It came on the same frequency, 20 over 9, again and again and again.
		So it was nobody screwing around with me.
		This was a real McCoy, and it's mathematically not possible.
unidentified		Right, as far as reflections from the moon are concerned, as one caller explained.
		However, I had an interesting experience on 80 meters, which is 3.5 megahertz.
		I'm a ham.
		And I was working International Morse Telegraph, talking to a Russian, and this was back probably six years ago.
		And all of a sudden, I began to hear another station on the frequency, so I stood by to see if somebody was transmitting.
		And it was my own signal.
		And it was not the long-delayed echo like you heard, but it was certainly around the earth.
		But anyway, that sparked me to write an article for QST.
		And I had turned on my digital tape recorder and got the digital recording of that.
		So I was able to run a fast Fourier transform, do some other analysis on it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Did QST actually publish?
unidentified		Yes, they did.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Wow.
unidentified		And so I started looking into the literature of the long-delayed echoes, and there's quite a history there.
unidentified		A lot of it is in QST, but it goes back to the 50s or so.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, if you have studied this in the cause of time here, what do you think is the most likely explanation?
unidentified		Well, I have one more experience.
		Back in January of 2013, and this was written up in May of QST 2015, I heard a short delay echo and a second frequency that was almost double the fundamental frequency of the echo on CW.
		But it would not repeat except I had to wait 2.5 seconds before whatever the mechanism was that was causing the second echo to reset.
		Okay, you asked me what people have said in the chat.
		Yeah.
		Magnetic fields of the Earth with plasma.
		They trap the signal.
		The signal goes around in the magnetic field.
		Because there's plasma, it propagates much slower than, you know, free space.
		And that's one of them.
		The other is the celestial hypothesis of the celestial repeater, where you have Lagrangian point one and two between the Earth and the Moon.
		And, you know, some other civilization has inserted a repeater in there.
		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, all right.
		Thank you very much.
		That's interesting.
		The first one really doesn't make sense to me, the laws of physics being what they are.
		The second one, you know, is a pretty outside possibility that the aliens are out there repeating 75-meter signals, but maybe they're bored.
		I don't know.
		Hello there on the phone lines.
		You're on air.
unidentified		Oh, hello.
		Hi.
		My name is April, and I'm a time traveler.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Your name is April, and you're a time traveler?
unidentified		Yes, but I'm not the kind of time traveler I think you wanted.
unidentified		You see, I'm from the 19th century.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, many of us are, and, you know, we're still here.
unidentified		Well, I'm physically less than 30 years old, but I was pushed into the future.
unidentified		You're familiar with Nikelo Tesla, right?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Tesla, yes.
unidentified		All right.
unidentified		Well, I was witnessing one of his attempts at, I think it was, I think he was trying to transmit electricity in Colorado Springs in 1899.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You saw that?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You were there?
unidentified		Yeah, in a sense.
unidentified		you sound hesitant because it's a really strange experience and no one people don't usually believe this sort of thing.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, I'm over time for a break.
unidentified		Hold on.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'll bring you back.
unidentified		Wow.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		My mind, indeed.
unidentified		This is Midnight.
		This is Midnight.
		The clock strikes 12, and Midnight in the Desert is pounding Package Your Way on the Dark Matter Digital Network.
		To call the show, please direct your finger digits to dial 1-952-225-5278.
		That's 1-952-Call Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Good morning, everybody.
unidentified		Good afternoon.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Good evening, wherever in the world you are.
		I am Art Bell, and this is Midnight in the Desert.
		Now, check this out before I go back to April.
		From John, it says, Art.
		The lady in Japan was incorrect.
		If she was, she's going to be twice embarrassed.
		The Tony Hawk hoverboard thing was later acknowledged as a hoax.
		The Lexus hoverboard is real.
		It uses magnets and requires a metallic surface.
		Oh, no.
		Could she have been wrong?
		Twice.
		Could the time traveler have been right?
		Speaking of which, April claims to be a time traveler.
		April, you're back on.
unidentified		Oh, hello.
		Hello.
		Okay, as I was saying, I witnessed one of Nicola Tesla's experiments in Colorado Springs in July 1889.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I am jealous.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I would give my, well, you know, important parts to have seen that.
unidentified		Yes, I was 15 years old at the time, and I had to disguise myself as a boy in order to see it because they would not let women or girls see it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, that's true.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		They were pretty...
unidentified		Yes.
		Well, yeah.
		And I can tell you what I remember of what happened.
		I'm not sure if it's all of what happened.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, no.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Go ahead.
unidentified		Well, I don't think anyone actually knew I was there, was the thing.
		It had a work crew and, you know, all the usual things.
		But I was just hidden in brush near it.
		It was a giant tower.
		Anyway, and they turned it on, and I remember everything going right, and then me waking up and thinking that I had passed out for whatever reason.
		And I woken up in 1985.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, well.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, we always want to ask time travelers how you do it, by what method.
unidentified		Mad science, apparently.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Did you say bad science?
unidentified		I think this qualifies as what they call mad science.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, mad science.
		Mad science.
		Okay.
		Well, I mean, can you describe whatever mechanism, was there a mechanism involved?
unidentified		Not on my part and not intentionally.
unidentified		I think it had something to do with him trying to transmit electricity, but it could have been regular experiments.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So you think Nikola Tesla may have had something to do with snapping you back there?
unidentified		Yes.
unidentified		How I came forward in time.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Got it.
		Remarkable.
		Okay, has it happened ever again?
unidentified		No, and at this point, I really hope it doesn't because it was very hard for me to get used to 1985 when I was young.
unidentified		Now I'm much older, and it would just be a shock to my system.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It was hard for me to get used to 85 when I was actually there.
		It was a rough year.
		All right, listen, thank you so very much for the call.
		I really do appreciate it.
		And by all means, call again.
		That was April.
		Alleged time traveler.
unidentified		On Skype, I think it's Michael.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Might be Michael.
unidentified		No?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Michael.
		Going once, going twice.
		Let's go to Matthew.
		Hello, Matthew.
unidentified		Oh, hey, Art.
unidentified		Let me turn my radio off for a second.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
unidentified		Sorry about that.
		I want to give out a shout out to Bradley and to Cheyenne.
		Okay.
		Yeah, you had a Flat Earther on the show the other day.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I sure did.
unidentified		The Flat Earthers are mostly a Christian fundamentalist movement.
		Somebody called in and talked about the Bible verses they used to justify their insane view.
		I'm actually a Sunday school teacher, so I know what verses they're talking about.
		There are two verses from Isaiah, one from Revelation, and several from the Psalms.
		But those are all extremely poetic interpretations.
		So you have to be really, if I can say the word, a kook to believe this literally.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, you know, the part I think that really got me was the sun being 3,000 miles above the Earth's surface.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, please.
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Please.
unidentified		I love the show, Art.
unidentified		It's great to have you back on the air.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's great to be back.
		It is wonderful, actually, to be back, particularly in a time when, you know, technology has so changed that, well, compared to my last experience on the air, it was hard to hear a lot of the callers.
		And I think almost everybody in the audience can verify that this is like a whole new universe.
unidentified		Well, thanks for taking my call, and have a great rest of the show.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, thank you for making it.
		And I do enjoy Open Lines.
		They're just plain fun, frankly.
		Let us try to be short because we've got a break coming up.
		Nicholas, hello, where are you?
unidentified		Hi, there.
unidentified		I'm in London.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		London?
		I got a wonderful shock earlier.
		I got a check from London from Barclays Bank.
		And, you know, when I looked at it, I thought, eh, you know, $390.
		What's that?
		Right?
unidentified		$1.56.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You bet it is.
		Boy, I went to the bank and I went, yay, hey!
		So, God bless the pound.
unidentified		So, you said about everybody sort of feeling there's something strange coming up in September.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yes.
unidentified		So, what do you think that's about?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's what I'm doing.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The show, that's why I'm doing the show, sir.
unidentified		I mean, I don't know.
		I just think there's something in the air.
		I think people just, you know, it's society as a whole.
		I think nobody trusts, you know, government anymore.
		There's that cynicism and suspicion, and I think it just feeds through into everything.
		And I think, you know, it's like 2012 all over again, but it never seems to ever come to anything.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, clearly, buddy, something is in the air.
		I mean, there's something in the air.
		It's all over the internet.
		Call after call.
		Do you hear that girl a little while ago?
		That was almost depressing.
		You know, she knows her life is going to end soon.
unidentified		That's, well, I think all our lives are going to end, but we just don't know when.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		You want to hold on?
		I've got to take a quick break.
		But since you're in London, hold tight.
unidentified		We'll be right back.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		This is Midnight.
unidentified		Do you remember the day, the sunny day?
		When you first came my way, I said no one could take your place.
		Come on, men and women, Skype.
		Call Midnight in the Desert at MITD51.
		That's MITD51.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, this is the first night, ladies and gentlemen, that my Skype, three times, mind you, three times already, had just thrown up its little Skype hands and said, program quits.
		I've had enough.
		I have so many names over the screen that it just goes, so I'm forced to restart it.
		And if that blows anybody out of here, I'm really, really sorry about that.
		People, obviously, who are ringing when that happens.
		Skype was probably not designed to have, you know, scores of people calling it at the same time, if not more.
		Where was I?
		I was in London.
unidentified		Hello.
unidentified		Hey, Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		So, yeah, I think in September, I think there's just probably going to be a stock market corruption.
		And so, you know, that usually filters through.
		And, you know, if people have got money in the stock market, it all sort of, you know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I don't want to see that happen.
		I mean, we just went through 2008.
		What would precipitate it, do you think, China?
unidentified		Yeah, I mean, there's just sort of hot money coming out of China right now.
		You see it everywhere, you know, property values going up all over the place.
		They're just buying empty properties and just keeping an empty investment.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, they've just devalued the won, which means they're trying to improve their economy, and they're kind of in trouble.
		If China, you know, used to be if America got in trouble, the world was in trouble.
		Now, maybe it's true that if China gets in trouble, we're all in trouble.
unidentified		Well, it's China and Europe, so.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		Yeah, that's right.
		Oh, that's right.
		You guys, you know, it's kind of looking like you Brits holding on to the pound was not such a bad idea after all.
		What do you think?
unidentified		Well, I was pro-Euro when it came out.
		Now I think I was wrong.
		So, you know, it's like the pound's a good thing.
		I mean, you've only got to see what happened in Ireland.
		They had their zombie hotels and stuff.
		You know, they ended up with, I think, 15% unemployment.
		Although it's improved, it's like they've, you know, made a good, you know, bet of it.
		But, you know, I think in Greece, it's just getting.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I would love to get a call from Greece.
		I mean, have you been there?
		How bad is it really getting in Greece?
		Can you tell us?
unidentified		I've not been to Greece, but one of the big problems it's not really, I don't think it's reported over your end, is all the immigrants coming over in the boats from Turkey.
		There's the island of Kos, I think.
		One in 10 people is an asylum seeker, and they had riots there yesterday.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		My God.
unidentified		So, yeah, there's hundreds of thousands of people literally just coming over the Mediterranean, and the navies are out there picking these people up and dropping them off in Italy, and then making their way up through the Schengen zone.
		So there was a really funny scene of on the border of France and Italy, where the French police were on one side and the immigrants were on the other.
		And when they walked through because there's no border control, the French police were picking them up by their arms and putting them back over onto the Italian side of the border.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, we're very American-centric with our news here.
		We just don't hear about that kind of thing.
		It's you know, occasionally we'll get a story about Greece, but that's about it.
		We don't get much else.
		We're so concentrating on the Donald over here, we don't see anything else.
unidentified		Oh, we get the Donald over here as well.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, you do?
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Uh-huh.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What do you think the world would be like and the United States if he got elected, actually got elected president?
unidentified		I think it would be a crazy place.
		I think they're given a nuclear button.
		He'd depress it just to see what would happen if he did it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, listen, my friend, thank you so very, very much for the call.
		And I've got high hopes for September, but I'm worried.
		After listening to all of you, I'm now officially worried.
		I knew that there was something cooking here, but I didn't know that it was that bad.
		It's all over the internet.
		It is a sort of a mass consciousness.
		It may be nothing.
		It may be people getting each other worked up.
		I mean, there have been a million of these things that have come along, right?
		People get worried.
		A certain date is talked about.
		A certain comet goes flashing by and people freak out.
		It may be that.
		But you can't totally ignore it.
		When this many people are upset about something, ignore it at your own peril, possible peril.
		John, you are on the air on Skype high.
unidentified		Hi, Art.
unidentified		I want to ask your opinion about something.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
unidentified		I've been working in the television news industry since about 1995.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		And in fact, I think I used to work at a Station in Monterey that you used to work at, which is used to be called KMST, but I think it's now called K-I-O-N.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
unidentified		But my question to you is: back when I was a kid, it was a thing that the family kind of sat around the tube and watched the evening news.
		Right.
		And that doesn't seem to be really happening anymore.
		And my career is based on, I'm a director of television news.
		And are you?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Is that you're currently a director, right?
unidentified		I'm currently a director in San Francisco.
unidentified		Oh, I direct the evening news at a station in San Francisco.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Is that a, excuse me for asking, but is it a frustrating job?
unidentified		It's a very, very frustrating job for multiple reasons.
		Some of which are you have people in my department who have worked for TV news for 20, 30, 40 years, combined with people who are writing the news who are 20 years old right out of college.
		Right.
		And there's a lot of mistakes that just get on the air, but there's not a lot of accountability.
		But the question that I really want to ask you is, how do you feel about the future of what we usually consider to be TV news, like families sitting around watching the news?
		That doesn't really happen anymore.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, what happens now is each family member individually sits around with their iPhone or iPad and surfs the internet and worries about September.
unidentified		Right.
unidentified		So people like me who have built their career on being an expert on being an artful director of the news, we're looking at a future of internet-based news, not television news.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's so obvious, yes.
		You know, television will still be here.
		Don't worry too much.
		The difference is that television, well, for example, as you know, probably, DirecTV was just eaten by AT ⁇ T, right?
		And it's my understanding that as of now, beginning now, or a few days ago, you could watch all of your DirecTV channels on the internet.
unidentified		Right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So that's where it's going, brother.
		In other words, TV won't go away, but it's going to fragment.
		It is already fragmenting, and it's going to be served up digitally.
unidentified		How do you feel about the future of people who are right now in college in getting involved in broadcasting degrees?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Look, I would absolutely encourage them to continue.
		From my point of view, as a provider or an entertainer, however you want to look at it, talk show host, it doesn't matter how our voice gets from here to there.
		That's going to change.
		But this talent side of it will always be okay.
		If I owned a TV station now, I might be a little concerned.
unidentified		Yes.
		You're saying that how the information gets from here to there is always going to be important.
		There's always going to be a need for someone.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm not saying there's always going to be a need for TV stations.
		There's always going to be a need for news, and that should encourage you.
		And the news can only get better because right now it's, well, pardon me, but it's pretty awful.
		That's true.
		You know, but you're probably doing it at a local level, right?
unidentified		Well, in San Francisco, it's local, but it's, like I say, it's a funny dichotomy because you have people who have worked in the business for 40 years, teamed up with people who are 20 years old, who are straight out of college, and they're writing the script that the anchors are expected to say, and the anchors are constantly having to monitor what the script is because there's so much errors.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So many errors.
unidentified		These kids are writing the news.
unidentified		I get it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I get it.
		I so totally get it.
		Well, that's a fight, I guess, that goes on from every generation to every generation since the electronic media began.
		But it is.
unidentified		Anyway, good luck.
		Thank you.
		I wish I had more to say than that, but good luck.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		TV news is a rough game because it's always kind of a fight between the news division and the entertainment division.
		And I must say lately that the entertainment divisions of these news departments appear to be winning.
		Right?
		You agree with that?
unidentified		It's infotainment.
		It's what the Cardassians are doing, and it's what...
		Yeah, when I listen to you, I listen to you in the newsroom, and people come and walk by me, and they think that I'm a kook.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No.
unidentified		But, you know, I won't stop attempting to open other people's minds to what's really happening in the world and what's really important.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Good for you, and you'll get a story or two through.
		I've got to run.
		But thank you very, very much for the call.
		I really do appreciate it.
		And by the way, let me take a moment to say that I appreciate the general quality of the callers to this program.
		And if you're a listener to the program, I don't have to tell you how much better it really is.
		Somewhere up near Omaha, Nebraska, I think you're on the air.
unidentified		Hello.
unidentified		Hi, how are you?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm very well.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
unidentified		My friend, 79 Trans Am, he wants to say hi.
		And when you spin those letters around, it says Starman.
		Really?
		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		By the way, I'm a Trans Am guy.
		I've got a Firebird Trans Am.
		It's gorgeous.
unidentified		Oh, that is cool.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Six-speed forward gears.
unidentified		Wow.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I can't go anywhere without getting followed like OJ.
unidentified		That is cool.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You know, they look at a car like that and they go, oh, yeah, town revenue.
unidentified		Oh, well, I bet.
unidentified		I believe that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Anyway, what's up?
unidentified		Well, I've had an encounter myself in 2008 or 9.
unidentified		I went up in spirit and I went into darkness and I have encountered aliens and gen. And let me stop you right there.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You said you went to darkness?
unidentified		Yeah, well, it is kind of like through spirit.
		I don't know how I got out of my body, but I was up in spirit, and I seen ETs and Jen.
		And these beings that I seen, the aliens even, and the gen, the aliens appeared with fur.
		Instead of just being like a bare skin or anything, they had fur on them.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What do you mean by gen?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		When you say gen, what do you mean?
unidentified		Jen are another being that is created by smokeless fire.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Smokeless fire.
unidentified		Yes.
		Okay.
		Yes.
		And I picked up on it because they can change, they shape-shift and stuff like that.
		Okay.
		And the beings themselves, they appear friendly and everything, and they communicate.
		They knew English very well.
		But each of them was trying to present themselves as if they were Christ.
		And they wanted me to accept them as Christ, and I refused.
		And being that I refused, that was my only way back.
		And when I came back, I got in a telepathic message.
		It says, I am the Prince of Darkness, and I got your soul.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And maybe the Prince does have your soul.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You left when you should have gone right.
unidentified		Yeah, and I came to Jesus, and that very night that I did, one of the beings came and tried to take it back and couldn't.
unidentified		And it was very interesting throughout the years, all the encounters that I've had.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but that's essentially black letter law.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You signed a contract with the other one there.
unidentified		No, I didn't accept them.
		I refused.
		Yeah, when they each presented themselves, and there was only one that didn't talk when I was there.
		And he was E.T. looking, and he came forward towards me.
		And that's when a gin popped out from his head and came up and touched me in my forehead and said, accept Christ.
		And I refused.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You refused?
unidentified		I refused.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm sorry, I thought you did accept Christ, and everything was okay.
unidentified		Yeah, I did.
unidentified		After when I came back in the first experience, that's how they were.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I am getting ready.
		I'm getting ready to interview a Satanist.
		That's a show you're not going to want to miss.
unidentified		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		So it's coming up, and I hope you will call.
		I am very, very curious about Satanists, and therefore I will do a program.
		No matter what anybody says, and there will be much comment, I'm sure.
		Renee, I think it is, on Skype, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hi.
		Hi, Art.
		This is Renee from South Texas.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		And I guess I wanted to share my story since you guys have been talking about aliens and stuff like that.
		There was this one time, me and my ex-girlfriend, I was kind of thinking a little bit adventurous, and she lived out in the country.
		So we ended up taking a dirt road.
		And me being the adventurous guy, I was like, hey, let's go check it out.
		She was out here.
		And we were driving, and I guess we got into an argument.
		But both of us saw something in the field.
		And I saw a metallic ball coming out of the dirt.
		And she saw a camouflage ball coming out of the dirt.
		So what happened was the thing came out of the ground and started spinning out of the ground and just kind of like right in front of us.
		I guess it was kind of like trying to see what we're doing.
		Why were you fighting?
		I guess stupid stuff.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Stupid stuff.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah?
unidentified		Yeah.
		What ended up happening was we ended up just kept on going straight and we saw the metallic thing just go all the way down.
		It started spinning and drilling back into the ground.
		And I guess like right afterwards, we were just like, did you see that?
		And she was all like, yeah, it was a metallic ball.
		It just came out of the ground.
		It was maybe like, I would say the size of a beach ball.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Under-earth UFOs, that's something we're going to have to talk about.
		We're way short on time.
		Overseas, somewhere, Morgus or something.
unidentified		Hello?
		Yeah, hello, Art.
		Can you hear me?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I hear you, but we've got so little time.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Where are you calling from?
unidentified		I'm calling from Romania.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Romania?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You are my first Romanian call.
unidentified		Yeah, I figured I was.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you are.
		You made it.
		Romania.
unidentified		Thank you very much for taking my call.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I wish we had more time.
unidentified		I listened to your advice and I took some notes.
		So here are some of my thoughts quick.
		Are we going to hear Michio Kaku again soon?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yes, of course.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Of course, of course.
unidentified		And also, this September thing is blown out of proportion.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I hope so.
unidentified		Yeah, me too.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I really hope so.
unidentified		Also, who do you think can carry on your legacy when, you know, after you're gone many, many years in the future?
unidentified		Do you see anyone who can pick up from your when you're going to be?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Asia, Asia Rain Bell is the name that comes to mind.
unidentified		Well, it's good to know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Asia Rainbell, currently currently traversing the third grade.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So she's getting ready.
unidentified		That's great to hear.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you, my friend.
		Good night.
		And all over the world, boy, has this been a blast or what?
		Midnight in the desert, indeed.
		That's Crystal Gale.
		From me to all the time zones, all of you everywhere.

▲