Brother Michael Dimond, a Benedictine monk, exposes the post-Vatican II Catholic Church as a "counterfeit" institution after 14 years of study, accusing popes Paul VI, John Paul II, and Benedict XVI of promoting heresy—like indifferentism (salvation outside Catholicism) and invalid Mass rites due to mistranslations. He ties their actions to prophecies like La Salette’s 1846 warning of apostasy, claims the Third Secret of Fatima was suppressed, and dismisses modern ordinations as false while criticizing the Church’s abortion stance for allowing pro-choice politicians to receive sacraments. Callers debate papal infallibility (Vatican I, 1870) and Scripture’s authority, but Dimond insists tradition—not personal reinterpretation—defines truth, framing current leadership as embodying the "spirit of Antichrist." The episode leaves listeners questioning whether Vatican II shattered Catholic orthodoxy. [Automatically generated summary]
From the high desert and the great American Southwest, I bid you all good evening, good morning, good afternoon, wherever you may be in the world's prolific time zones, each and everyone covered by this program, the largest program of its type in the world, Coast to Coast AM.
I'm Art Bell.
It's my honor and privilege to be escorting you through this weekend.
And a weekend of horror it is in the central part of America.
Hoy, Kansas and South Dakota, Nebraska, all up and down, all the way, in fact, all the way down to Texas, really.
A fresh wave of tornadoes has ripped through the plains late Saturday.
Just a day after a tornado all but destroyed the town of Greensburg, Kansas, killing eight, injuring a dozen more.
The National Weather Service said it had received reports well into get this, the double digits of twisters touching down in six southwest Kansas counties.
Numerous tornadoes were reported from South Dakota south into Oklahoma as forecasters scrambled to keep issuing warnings.
Looking around the rest of the nation in a moment, let me first tell you the webcam photo tonight is of Aaron and Yeti.
Everybody's been asking for one of Yeti, so there it is.
A Kenya Airways jet that took off during a midnight storm crashed early Saturday.
There were 114 on board.
It was after sending out a distress signal over remote southern Cameroon.
Nearby villagers reported hearing an explosion, seeing a flash of fire.
The jet bound for the Kenyan capital, Nairobi, went down about 90 miles southeast of the coastal city of Duabla, where it had taken off after midnight.
No word on if they're all fatalities.
A new video of al-Qaeda's number two leader released on Saturday mocks our president, President Bush, and U.S. legislation requiring the withdrawal of U.S. troops from Iraq, saying the bill would rob the group's fighters of a chance to kill more Americans.
Osama bin Laden's deputy derided the new U.S.-backed Baghdad security plan, recounting in an April 12th suicide bombing in Baghdad's heavily protected green zone when an attacker slipped through security, killed a Sunni legislator in the Iraqi parliament's cafeteria.
Al-Qaeda, and I don't know what this word is.
I guess it's amalgam of Sunni insurgents in Iraq claimed responsibility.
That's it.
Minutes before a choice rampage inside Virginia Tech's Norris Hall, there was apparently a note.
It was found on the second floor stairwall, and it warned a bomb will go off if you open the door.
According to a school employee on Saturday, Virginia State Police confirmed a threatening note was indeed found in a room where Janet Pamela Tickle says she left it after the shooting, but they have not linked it to Cho.
Very interesting.
Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton criticized the Bush administration's response to Hurricane Katrina, pledged Saturday to funnel more federal aid to the still recovering Gulf Coast area if elected.
Speaking to the National Conference of Black Mayors, Clinton and Senator Barack Obama both took President Bush to task.
Although Obama focused mostly on the Iraq War, Clinton on domestic issues.
A Chinese factory was a source of a counterfeit chemical that killed dozens of people in Panama after it was used in human medications.
According to a newspaper, New York Times reported in its Sunday edition that records and interviews revealed the poison was first sold by Chinese companies that exported it as 99.5% pure glycerin.
The source of the chemical was then obscured as middlemen in Spain and Panama removed the names of their suppliers from shipping documents, practice used by distributors to ensure continued business.
And in a moment, continued news.
Climate news seems like the climate models were wrong.
It's actually worse than they forecast.
Arctic ice is actually melting faster than computer models of climates calculate.
According to a group of U.S. researchers since 1979, the Arctic has been losing summer ice at about 9% per decade.
But models on average produce melting rate less than half that figure.
The scientists suggest forecasts from the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change may be too cautious, but we all knew that, didn't we?
The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change has been affected by politics.
So what they say is serious, but if they were telling the full truth, it would be a hell of a lot more serious.
The latest observations indicate that Arctic summers could be ice-free.
That's ice, no ice in the Arctic by the middle of this century.
Somewhere in the second half of the century, it would happen, according to Ted Scambos of the National Snow and Ice Data Center at the University of Colorado.
The fact that all models show ice loss over the observed period and all project large ice losses into the future is a very strong message, he says.
Some computer models show periods of great sensitivity where the Arctic ice system collapses suddenly, and that trend may occur a bit earlier.
That's the best guess, but exactly when is hard to say, he told BBC.
Dr. Scambos co-authored the latest study published in the journal Geophysical Research Letters with other scientists from NSIDC and from the National Center for Atmospheric Research in Boulder.
They also calculate that about half, if not more, of the warming observed since 1979 originates in humanity's emissions of greenhouse gases.
There are measurements dating back about a century on the extent of Arctic ice, but satellite observations from 1979 onwards are generally thought to be the most accurate data set.
In other words, what your eyes see.
The new research involved analyzing two periods, 1953 through 2006, 1979 through 2006.
Records show a shrinkage over the longer period of 7.8% per decade.
When only the more recent period is analyzed, the rate goes up to 9.1% per decade.
For comparison, the researchers looked at the collection of 18 computer models used by the IPCC and other institutions for making projections of future climates.
Models are always verified against real-world data from the recent past to see how well their output mimics reality.
The collection scrutinized here calculated an average decline of only 2.5% per decade from 1953 through 2006 and 4.3% per decade since 1979, both well short of the real world observations.
They acknowledge there are lessons here for the climate modeling community, the rate of ice loss and the location of ice loss, these things that the models need to improve.
And there are physical processes such as the release of methane from melting permafrost that the models apparently do not include.
And that could well account, I suppose, for the fact that they are coming up well short.
I guess global warming is a message yet to be heard or believed by many, but it really is approaching very settled science, no matter what you may hear and who you may hear it from.
It's happening.
And instead of reading about the IPCC or whatever scientific body is talking about this, just go look at pictures of the North Pole, say 40 years ago and today.
And if that doesn't convince you, then I guess you cannot be convinced.
Oh, now wait a minute.
Here's another thing you might want to note.
Australia.
Australia, it is alleged, has begun secret talks on evacuating half of their continent due to epic drought.
Can you imagine that?
Half the continent?
Shocking reports from the Kremlin today are showing that just under one week from Australian Prime Minister Howard's urgent plea to his citizens to pray for rain to fall on their drought-ravaged nation, the government of Australia has entered into alleged secret negotiations with the U.S. and their Commonwealth allies for the proposed evacuation of upwards of 11 million of its 20 million citizens.
That would be just over half, right?
To the tragedy currently unfolding upon the world's smallest continent of Australia, we can read, as reported by Britain's Independent News Service, in their article entitled Australia's Epic Drought, Situation is Grim, in which it says, quote, Australia has warned that it will have to switch off the water supply to the continent's food bowl unless heavy rains break an epic drought,
heralding what could be the first climate change-driven disaster to strike a developed nation.
The Murray-Darling Basin in southeastern Australia yields 40% of that country's agricultural produce.
But the two rivers that feed the region are so pitifully low right now that soon there'll be only enough water for drinking.
Australia is in the grip of its worst drought on record, the victim of changing weather patterns attributed to global warming, and a government that's only just starting to wake up to the severity of the situation.
Prime Minister John Howard, who, by the way, is a hardened climate change skeptic, delivered dire tidings to the nation's farmers yesterday.
He said unless there is significant rainfall in the next six to eight weeks, irrigation will be banned in the principal agricultural area crops like rice, cotton, wine, grapes are all going to fail.
Citrus, olive, and diamond trees, almond trees rather, will die along with livestock.
A ban on irrigation, which would remain in place until May of next year, spells possible ruin for thousands of farmers already debt-laden and in despair now after six straight years of drought.
FSB sources commenting on these reports state the Australian government requests to other Western nations are for the establishment of an international working group tasked with devising a scheme for the immediate evacuation of upwards of 11 million human beings.
And toward that end, they're talking to passenger lines, you know, big ships that can carry literally, oh, perhaps 500,000 passengers, something like that.
I wonder when the climate skeptics are going to finally catch on.
Will it take something like this, like evacuating half a nation, before people wake up and realize it's actually happening?
We really are like the proverbial frog that has been simply plopped into, you know, skin temperature water.
And of course, heat's turned up and up and up and up and up until finally the frog, of course, is dead and smiling through the entire process.
Now, I wouldn't press this point unless I absolutely believed it.
And you can look at all the science, and I hope you do.
Those skeptics out there who do not think the weather is changing, look at the facts and don't even worry about whether it's us, man's hand, or not.
Just the cycle.
It doesn't really matter.
I lean toward thinking that man's hand is certainly having an effect on all of this, but I don't think it really matters.
We have to begin to adjust our agricultural patterns And a lot more if we are to survive the coming changes, whatever the cause you believe it to be, whatever is behind it: Mother Nature, the sun, volcanic eruptions, natural cyclical change, or what science tells us is doing it.
That's our own emissions.
All right, listen, we're about to do unscreened open-line talk radio.
Now, that means anything you want to talk about is fair game.
I would ask, number one, that you have something important to get out to the entire audience.
Something really urgent worth calling a national talk show to talk about.
And number two, when you do get on the air, when I pronounce you on the air, immediately turn your radio off because we have a delay system here.
And you'll hear yourself speaking many seconds in the past.
Well, not kind of.
It's very confusing.
So please, folks, be very, very careful to get that radio off right away.
Here are the numbers.
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And finally, well, not finally.
Finally, domestically, the wildcard line, we have many of them, actually, area code 818-501-4109.
If you're outside the country, we can accommodate you with a toll-free line at 800-893-0903.
Just get hold of your local operator and tell her you want to call that number.
Okay, well, that's the same argument the scientists make.
And to me, it doesn't make a lot of difference.
Because to be honest with you, to be frank with you, I don't think we can turn it around anyway.
Even if the argument were completely resolved, and it is very political, those on the right say there is no such thing as global warming.
It's all a myth, a leftist myth to put the clamps on production to hurt the economy, whatever the argument it is, is rather.
So it doesn't matter.
To me, it doesn't matter.
What we do know for sure is that the warming is going on.
So I believe that we need to make decisions now about how agriculture is going to change so that when we go to the grocery store in hopes of getting something to eat for the family, there'll be something on the shelf to get.
And if we don't make those decisions, if we don't plan properly for the changes that are going to occur one way or the other, then I suppose we get everything we deserve.
That's about it, folks.
No matter where it's coming from, the fact of the matter is, it's absolutely happening.
So we better get moving really soon.
I'm Art Bell.
Oh, yes.
I'm well aware that anything from the Russian press could be pure bunk.
And of course, that's why I added the word alleged when I read that story.
And so there may not be plans to immediately move half of Australia's people anywhere at all.
However, what's not bunk is the horrid drought that's going on there.
And in fact, they may actually be reduced down to drinking water and not able to irrigate the farming portion of their country.
And that's information generally available anywhere on the internet.
Take a look at the plight of Australia with respect to water and the drought situation going on right now.
That part of it is absolutely accurate as far as the rest of it is concerned.
The Russian press tends to exaggerate and print rumors as reality, and that's why I added that.
I was very careful to add that word because I didn't particularly believe it either.
At any rate, we will continue with your calls.
Anything you want to talk about in a moment.
Well, all right, back to the lines, and let's see what's up.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
East of the Rockies.
Yes, hello.
unidentified
Hi, Art.
Sorry to give my last name, but I didn't realize I just called.
I didn't realize I was going to get on the air that quickly.
My friend Dalton, who I'd like to say hi to, introduced me to the show, and he would be a friend of yours, too, if you knew him.
I have a question about the Bees.
Why do you think that it has been so unreported by most of the major news companies?
And I think that we might know more about it, and there might have been more research about it if they had been reporting it, but it has gone largely unreported with the exception of your show.
I hadn't really thought about it until you called.
Let's see.
Why would they not?
They would certainly, you would think they would report it as an unanswered mystery at the very least.
Now, they don't have answers yet, and I would suggest that is the reason, but that's usually why politicians don't report something, because they have no answers.
It's not why the media doesn't.
unidentified
So damned if I know.
Well, I'm glad that you and George are reporting it.
You guys, you do a really great job, and I love your show.
One story he said on Fox, you would think something of this grave importance for all of humanity would be reported right across the board, mainstream, top three-story type news on the evening news, that sort of thing.
Fortunately, we've just had some heavy rain and some wind, but we're about 90 miles east, a little bit north of Greensburg, Kansas, where I have some relatives that used to live there.
My God, that place was, I saw the pictures on CNN, virtually gone.
unidentified
95% of the city is what they're saying now.
It's about 1,800 people.
There was a place called the World's Deepest Hand-Dug Well, and they had a thousand-pound meteorite, and they say it's somewhere underneath all the stuff.
I have not seen any reports yet on the F rating of that tornado, which was said to be about a mile wide.
Have you?
unidentified
Last night they were saying F2, although I haven't heard any revision to that.
There was a line of storms that went through the Texas panhandle, through Oklahoma, through all the way through Kansas, and into Nebraska, over 100 miles long.
What's going on in the middle part of the country is absolutely horrible, and it's not over yet.
My understanding is that it will continue to some degree, or lesser or greater degree, tomorrow.
So I guess I'm glad I'm not there.
I really used to enjoy that sort of thing when I was younger, but at a distance, you can actually reasonably safely chase thunderstorm lines and systems that probably are going to produce tornadoes if you know what you're doing.
Now, I was with somebody who knew what he was doing, but there were a few times that we got too close for comfort, and you can easily make a mistake.
Wildcard line, you're on air.
unidentified
Yeah, Art.
This is Bob.
I'm calling from Kentucky, but I'm from Iowa.
Yes, sir.
And I heard a program that you did two or three weeks ago with a fella that interviewed Dr. Bushman.
Okay, I'm in the dark so far, but that's quite all right.
Go ahead.
unidentified
Okay.
Well, two days after that, I think it was on the 17th, but two days after that, we drive trucks, so we were back in Iowa, and I was running across Highway 20 in Iowa, in northern Iowa.
And I came up on some DOT, a flatbed had something on the back of the flatbed.
It looked military.
But I didn't really think too much of it.
But it had pilot cars in front of it, and then it had Department of Transportation vehicles in front of those with their lights on flashing.
And when somebody would try to go around it, the officers would block their path so they couldn't get too close.
And somebody said, oh, we followed them probably for 40 miles.
And another driver that was going by the other way, he said it looked like a flying saucer.
So I got a little bit of closer, as close as I could get, and I took a few pictures.
And I was able to blow them up on my phone so I could kind of see it.
But the thing was exactly, and I went to your website, and I looked at some of the pictures that was on there that the doctor had designed.
And the dome on top of this thing was almost it, it was exactly what the diagram was on your website.
Not fully understanding the interview you're referring to, I would nevertheless very much enjoy seeing the photographs, which I assume you saved, right?
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, I've got them on my phone.
I sent them to my email, and I blew them up using one of the picture it's.
And what it is, is it goes across the interstate.
When it's on the right side of the interstate, part of this thing goes over, it's at a slant.
Send me a copy of the photograph or the enlarged photograph if you would so desire.
I'm Art Bell at MindSpring, M-I-N-D-S-P-R-I-N-G.com.
Artbell at mindspring.com.
That's A-R-T-B-E-L-L or artbell at A-O-L dot com.
Would love to see it.
And if it's detailed enough, I worry people using cell phone cameras, though they are getting better, usually lack the kind of definition you would want to have for that sort of thing.
But I'd nevertheless love to see it.
And if it is fairly decent definition and fairly obvious, we'll put it up for all to see.
All right, well, we'll put out the feelers, and if anybody knows any reference material to that, it does make sense to me.
It seems to me that if you're immersed in some kind of liquid, particularly with a fairly decent consistency, that there would be some protection, particularly if you had taken it.
And I, I know there's been a lot of science fiction written about actually people using liquid-filled suits to both go actually under the ocean, you know, down to very great depths where there's a very great deal of pressure.
And I would presume that it would also act against high G pressure as well.
I'm a person, I believe, in positive thinking, you know, the power of positive thinking and prayer and that kind of stuff.
And I was thinking with your audience, as large as it is, that maybe we could do something like at the same time, I'm at a certain time of day, everybody can think, have a positive thought of let there be peace on earth and harmony.
And you know, I think that's been done many times.
I don't think it's actually been done on this program, at least not by myself.
unidentified
But I figured like if, you know, everybody told everybody they knew and they told everybody they knew, you know, I mean, we could get a lot of people at the same time on a day having that, you know, putting that positive thought out there.
I simply have sort of trailed away from doing these experiments, though I did do one a month or so ago, a couple of months ago, about UFOs, which, by the way, worked.
But I don't know.
I'll give it some thought.
I'm definitely not against the idea.
God knows the world could use some real peace, couldn't it?
West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hello.
unidentified
Yes.
Hi, Art.
I would like to suggest, my name is Robin from California.
Yes, Rob.
And I love your program, longtime listener.
I would love it if we would focus our energies, your entire audience, on opening up the storm doors and bringing water and rain into Australia.
I used to gather together with girlfriends of mine when we would have drought here in California.
And they would say the storm doors are closed, we would be in a drought, and we would use rainsticks, the bamboo ones where you sound rain going back and forth with the beads running back and forth.
Did it work?
And every single time within two days, the storm doors would open and we would have rain.
Possibly, but again, the worry, and the reason why I've stopped tampering, as it were, with the weather, is suppose we were able to cause it to rain in Australia.
We might then take rain from another area.
In other words, rain that was supposed to go somewhere else might suddenly go to Australia.
Or they might get flooding.
I don't know.
I'm giving the whole thing a lot of thought.
I certainly have not given up on the idea of mass consciousness experiments.
And that's what the last two callers have been talking about.
I've definitely not given up on it.
And I definitely would use it if I thought the situation was urgent enough, really life and death kind of urgent.
And I guess it's getting close to that in Australia.
Well, I guess what I'm trying to say is because something is occurring on Mars doesn't necessarily mean that's the same reason it's happening on Earth.
We don't have that science nailed down any more than you apparently believe we have, you know, man-made global warming nailed down.
unidentified
That's true, too.
I'm not saying man does not have something to do with it.
Well, even if that's the case, whatever the cause, as I mentioned earlier, I'm getting to the point because of the fight, I happen to personally believe man's hand has something to do with it, but because of the nature of the fight and the fact that it's delaying any real action, it's so damn political.
It's delaying us, stopping us, paralyzing us from doing anything at all.
And the fact is, it is changing.
And so while we're arguing about whose fault it is, soon the grocery store shelves will be empty unless we get busy and begin actually doing something.
From the high desert and the great American Southwest, I'm Art Bell.
It's been a very long time since I've done something like we're going to do tonight.
A cruise into Catholicism.
Brother Michael Diamond is well known in the traditional Catholic world.
He's been a traditional Catholic Benedictine monk for 14 years, is one of the world's foremost experts on the changes that have occurred in the Catholic world since Vatican II.
He is a producer of more than 10 DVD video documentaries on what he calls the post-Vatican II counterfeit Catholic Church prophecy and other subjects.
He and his monastery specialize in the study of how this post-Vatican II counterfeit Catholic Church contradicts Catholic doctrine and fulfills prophecy.
He's also the author of a recent book entitled Padre Pio, a Catholic priest who worked miracles and bore the wounds of Jesus Christ on his body.
And the tapes, magazines, and books produced by his monastery have been distributed in the hundreds of thousands.
Now, he's produced a DVD called Death and the Journey into Hell, as well as one called Creation and Miracles, Past and Present, and the truth about what's really happened to the Catholic Church after Vatican II.
Outside the Catholic Church, there is absolutely no salvation.
Those last two are books.
So, Brother Michael Diamond, welcome to Coast to Coast A.M. Having me on.
I wasn't raised in any religion, and around 15, I converted to Catholicism.
And I started to go to the local so-called Catholic Church and noticed many what I saw were problems with the way that they, at Mass, conducted themselves, the people that were involved with the Mass, the irreverence, and other problems that struck me as not being right, not being traditional, not being holy, not being reverent.
And so I studied these issues much more deeply over the last 10 or 15 years.
Well, just knowing some of the history of the church, knowing how things were conducted, quickly picking up that in the history of the church, they had the Mass in Latin, that the priest didn't face the people, the Mass was in Latin, these kinds of things that didn't take that long to find out.
So just figuring out and finding out about some of those details, then I said to myself, well, why has this changed so much?
And so over the years, when I began to study this issue and all these issues pertaining to the church and church issues more deeply, I then began to understand that there was a much deeper problem going on, that there was a deliberate attempt, has been a deliberate attempt, to destroy the traditional teachings of the Catholic faith.
The distinction would be that a priest is someone who's an ordained person that would offer Mass, would bless things, would offer the holy sacrifice of the Mass, and has certain powers that are given to him in ordination that are not given to a brother.
Would be to serve God and help save other people's souls and hopefully try to save my own soul in the process and to educate people as to what the Catholic Church really teaches because so many people are confused and they don't really know what's going on.
And so our particular study is to try to inform people as to what has really happened, especially over the last 60 years.
And that's why we put together this book, The Truth About What Really Happened to the Catholic Church after Vatican II.
It's a 658-page book, has about 220 color photos, over 1,700 references.
And it is, in our opinion, the most comprehensive book ever produced on the changes and what has been happening in the Catholic Church over the last roughly 60 years.
Well, it's in a lot of ways it would be the priest would be more sometimes out dealing with the people, whereas we are spending a lot of time studying and obviously praying.
And the difference would be mainly that the priests would deal more with the people, usually, although you do have some, obviously, priests that are in monasteries that are more contemplative.
I would say that there are some issues where we would be in disagreement, and there are a lot of issues where we would be in agreement, such as he actually believed that the Novus Ordo Mass, that's the new Mass that was given by Paul VI to the world on April 3rd, 1969, is actually invalid in all vernacularized liturgies.
And so we would actually be in agreement with him on that issue.
And obviously, he was pointing out that there are major problems going on in Rome and in the church, especially over the last 60 years, and indicated that the Third Secret, I think it was on a Your program several years ago, admitted actually that the Third Secret of Fatima speaks about at least one claimant to the papacy being completely under the control of Satan.
And so we would also be in agreement that we are dealing with the last five claimants to the papacy are actually anti-popes and they are actually working for antichrist in trying to destroy all the traditional teachings and the sacraments of the Catholic Church.
And that can be seen by the way that they've changed the Mass into essentially a Protestant service.
They changed the right to every sacrament.
The changes that they made actually were made by the Church of England hundreds of years ago.
After King Henry VIII died, they turned the priests around to face the people.
They gave communion the hand.
They changed the Mass from Latin to English.
All those changes that happened in the Church of England also happened and were caused by Paul VI when he changed the Mass and the other sacraments.
And all the new teachings that have flowed out of the Second Vatican Council, which was that huge council from 1962 to 1965, where you had all of these changes that we see now came out of the Second Vatican Council.
Okay, well, if you look at Matthew 26, 28 in your Bible, you can see the word of institution or the words of institution by our Lord.
He says, this shall be shed for you and for many.
He uses the word many.
And they now, when they change the Mass and use the vernacularized translations of the Mass when they came out, they changed the word many to all.
And the Church has specifically stated that if you change the words that Jesus Christ specifically instituted for any sacrament, in this case the Eucharist, and you change the word and the new word doesn't mean the same thing as the word that was instituted by Jesus Christ, the sacrament's invalidated.
And you can find in the Catechism of the Council of Trent on page 227 a long paragraph why Jesus used many.
Pope St. Pius V states clearly what the essential words of consecration are.
And after listing the words of consecration, he says, if anyone changes or removes any of these words in the consecration of the body and blood of the Lord, and by these change of words does not signify the same thing as these words do, he does not confect the sacrament.
And so this is actually the fulfillment of changing many to all, which does invalidate the sacrament, does actually fulfill the prophecy of the sacrifice ceasing as predicted by Daniel and as predicted by our Lord in Matthew 24, 15 when he talks about when you therefore shall see the abomination of desolation standing where it ought not.
So these are the kinds of things that are predicted to happen at the end of the world that people will see.
And by that very act of changing the essential words of consecration, that one act caused these people, Catholics throughout the whole world, when they were going to actually a valid Mass, receiving a valid Eucharist, now all of a sudden they were not.
And then Paul VI changed the rite of ordination on June 18, 1968.
And the pattern of deletions that he put into this new ritual of ordination for priests and bishops is almost word for word identical to the Anglican Protestant rite of ordaining and consecrating bishops.
And that right, the Anglican right of ordination, was declared as being invalid by Pope Leo XIII in his papal bull abstee curi of September 13th, 1896.
Because in the Anglican ritual, they remove certain prayers, for example, that were said by the bishop to the priest, the potential priest, the ordinan.
Like, for example, the bishop would say, receive the power to offer sacrifice, to bless, to lead, to preach, to forgive sins.
All these things were deleted.
Well, the same deletions were made by Paul VI.
So if you apply the same principle that if the Anglican right of ordination is invalid, it was declared to be invalid because they removed these specific prayers, well, Paul VI did the very same thing on June 18, 1968.
So then it causes a grave doubt whether these priests that have been ordained since that time in the diocesan structure have actually been ordained.
So it's a deliberate plan by the devil ultimately, carrying out his operation through people, to destroy and annihilate the Catholic Church.
With the exception of those groups, which there are many of them out there, that have clung to the traditional rites of ordination and offering the Mass, of course, the Latin Trientine Mass, their Eastern Rite liturgies that are still valid.
So those would be valid.
But the majority, of course, which are controlled by this counterfeit Catholic Church, this anti-church that has arisen since the Second Vatican Council, almost 100% of them are using this new ritual.
So with the exception of these really old priests that are still alive, many of which are retired, all the rest of these priests that are being, quote, ordained are not actually being ordained.
So this is something that is really significant and important for people to realize because this is about whether people are actually receiving valid sacraments, whether they're actually going to a validly ordained priest.
And it was done and carried out by the devil.
And it was predicted.
Actually, Pope Leo XIII, who was a Pope about 100 years ago, had a vision after Mass in which he heard the devil and our Lord speaking.
And the devil boasted that he could destroy the Catholic Church.
And our Lord said, well, if you think you can, how much time and power do you need?
And the devil responded, about 75 to 100 years and much more power over those who will give themselves to my service.
And so Pope Leo XIII claimed that our Lord said then, the time and the power will be given to you.
So it's sort of the great testing at the end of the world, the great apostasy that's predicted to happen, the great falling away that God will allow to happen at the end of the world as a punishment for the sins of the world.
As our Lord allowed his own body to be placed in the hands of his enemies, he will allow the infrastructure, the buildings of the church and what were held by Catholics to be given over, to be usurped and controlled by his enemies, people who will claim to be Catholic and say, hey, we're still the Catholic Church, but the teachings and the dogmas will be different.
And the Mass will be different as it is, the sacraments will be different, a new rosary, a new code of canon law, a new catechism, new teachings, a new outlook.
Well, I think that if you look, for example, at the real possibility of a nuclear war, for example, if you look at the so-called gay marriage being legalized and allowed, and there are many other signs, for example, that are given.
People that will speak out against homosexuality, for example, eventually, if this goes on long enough, probably will be jailed if they will publicly speak out against that kind of abominable activity.
So you have these kinds of signs being seen which are predicted to happen at the end of the world.
This great apostasy, will there be any faith on earth?
Jesus says in Luke 18, 8, will I find faith when I return?
It will be as in the days of Noah, he says.
But one of the biggest signs is the fact that what has happened to the Catholic Church, namely that you have those clear predictions of the man of sin sitting in the temple of God, 2 Thessalonians 2, verses 3 and 4, St. Paul says, he's not going to sit in the temple.
He's going to sit in what appears to be the main church of the Catholic religion, St. Peter's Basilica in Rome.
Many biblical scholars believe that God will allow as a punishment for the sins of the world, as I was saying earlier, for the church to be infiltrated, occupied, and seemingly controlled by his enemies, by heretics and apostates.
And one thing that Malachi Martin said that was very interesting at the Second Vatican Council, he heard many of these leftist, liberal, heretical theologians say, before we left the Catholic Church throughout history, but this time we're going to stay in the church and change it from within.
So some of these people who would go off and start their own Protestant church or some other church, this time the goal was, and what God would allow, for these heretics and apostates to infiltrate the buildings and rise to, quote, positions of authority and power in the Catholic Church, or what will seem to be positions of authority and power, because they'll be sitting in there.
They'll be sitting in the temple of God.
These churches that really belong to the Catholic Church, they'll be usurped and controlled and occupied by Christ's enemies.
And they'll give you these new teachings and say, hey, this is the new kind of Catholic religion that we don't try to convert people any longer.
We esteem every religion on the planet.
It doesn't make any difference what religion you belong to.
On and on and on.
And this has led to this massive crisis.
All these scandals, really, are caused principally by this, because the people that are operating for the most part in these post-Vatican II churches do not believe that the Catholic faith is necessary.
And then also you have the predictions on the Horror Babylon, which many Protestants think is talking just about the Catholic Church.
When actually you look at the predictions of the Hora Babylon, it's actually talking about a counterfeit Catholic church that will arise.
And it talks about how it's clothed in purple and scarlet, which are, of course, the colors of bishops and cardinals, and how the whore holds a golden cup in her hand full of abomination and filthiness.
And of course, the mass is offered the golden chalice.
And that the church flees into the wilderness, and that the whore is occupying and dominating the scene.
And that Babylon is a code name that St. Peter gives in 2 Peter for the city of Rome.
And it says, Babylon, Rome has fallen, has fallen.
It's talking about Rome will fall away from the Catholic faith, many of the people there, and that a new kind of church will arise that will actually not be the Catholic Church, but will be a false counterfeit Catholic church.
Father Martin told me some things about the Third Secret of Fedima.
One of the things he said publicly was that it is, he said, Art, the very worst that you can possibly imagine, the worst thing you could cook up in your mind, it's worse than that.
Absolutely, because here's the dilemma that people believe that they're faced with, that, well, these guys that are giving me all these new teachings are what they think are the leadership of the Catholic Church.
How could this happen?
How could God allow this to happen?
And in this case, specifically, it's pointing out the person who will claim to be the head of the Catholic Church, who will be an anti-pope.
The Catholic Church has dealt with 40 antipopes in her history.
And an anti-pope, by definition, is an uncanonically elected pope.
And for example, Pope Paul IV wrote a bull called Cumex Apostolos Official where he said that no Catholic can accept someone who's a manifest heretic as the Pope, even if he seems to be elected by all the cardinals.
So a person who is an anti-pope could be an illegitimate claimant because there's a real pope somewhere else, and that's usually been the case throughout history.
But someone, a pope or someone who claims to be a pope, can also become an anti-pope or be an anti-pope by the very fact that he's a manifest heretic or a public heretic.
And this is summed up in the words of St. Robert Bellarmine.
He states that a, quote, a pope who is a manifest heretic automatically ceases to be pope and head of the Catholic Church, just as he ceases to be a Christian and a member of the church, wherefore he can be judged and punished by the church.
This is the teaching of all the ancient fathers that manifest heretics immediately lose all jurisdiction.
A couple of weeks ago, maybe a week ago, I read what probably is not really a letter to Dr. Laura, the talk show host, but it makes several really interesting points.
Nevertheless, it purports to be a letter to Dr. Laura, let's put it that way.
And she has a position regarding homosexuality and gay marriage and all the rest of it.
And she regards it as an abomination and quotes Leviticus 18, 22.
It's just something where it's under a new covenant.
And so some things are allowable in a certain age or during a certain time, but during a different time, they are not allowed because they're called disciplinary laws.
And there are other laws that can never be changed.
Well, that's why Jesus set up a church so that people would know and how they could differentiate and decide and know what they are to do and what's permissible and what's not.
That's why he established a church, and he says he gives authority to the head of the church, for example, to decide certain issues of faith or morals, what they mean, to enunciate to people what these teachings are to the whole world so that everyone knows exactly what they have to believe to be Catholic.
And so that's the whole point in the church, because without a church, you can't know, without a supreme head of the church in certain situations at certain times throughout history, telling people, this is what you have to do, this is what you cannot do.
Okay, then hold tight because I was bad and Hell for a Talk Show host is missing a break.
So we're going to take another break right now and then we'll, I guess, go to hell.
All right.
Speaking of hell, Vinnie in Bedford, Texas asks, Art, please ask the brother if, in his opinion, all Protestants, for example, and we could go beyond that, are damned to hell.
Well, when you say a Protestant, that would be someone that protests against a teaching of the Catholic Church.
So if someone would say that I don't accept the Catholic Church or Catholic teachings, or I reject that you can ask for the help of, say, Our Lady and saints to help you, that they will pray to God and assist you, then obviously he would be a heretic.
And the Church declares that you have to be a Catholic and have the Catholic faith to be saved.
So if that person would reject obstinately or pertinaciously a teaching of the Catholic Church, he would be outside the church and be on the road to damnation.
And so, yes, any person that would reject, say that they would reject the teachings of the Catholic Church, would be lost according to the infallible teachings of the Catholic Church.
Our Lord talks about how the fire will be there and that it's never ending.
And that's why, as you were pointing out about Father Malachi Martin, it's the third secret talking about the worst thing that you could ever imagine.
The worst thing that could happen to anyone is that they lose their soul.
And so if you have a church that claims to be the true church that people are going to and they think they're receiving the sacraments, they think that they're pleasing to God by going to this church and they're giving them phony sacraments, a phony faith, a counterfeit faith, and that these people, if they continue to follow these heretical teachings that are contrary to what the official teachings of the Catholic Church are, they will lose their souls.
So that's the worst thing that could happen to someone is that they lose their souls.
Well, no, that's not true either because the founder of our community, founded it back in the 1960s, came from the first and largest Benedictine community in western Pennsylvania, St. Vincent's Arch Abbey, and left with the permission of the then one-time Archabbot Dennis Stripmatter to start his own community, which he then started in the 1960s in southern New Jersey.
And that's the community that I went to.
Obviously, it's not recognized by the, this community is not recognized as a Catholic community by the post-Vatican II Church.
They recognize as Catholics and as monasteries, people who are practicing Zen Buddhism in their so-called Benedictine monasteries and going on joint retreats with Buddhists and people of other religions, steaming other religions, going into synagogues, mosques, false worship, temples, and so forth.
So these people that they recognize as real valid Catholic communities are actually not Catholics because they've given up the traditional Catholic faith, and we haven't.
No, actually, they've excommunicated themselves by the very fact that they have obstinately held these heretical positions which are contrary to what the Church has infallibly defined.
The Popes, for example, state on certain issues of faith or morals that if anyone denies this, let him be anathema.
And so these people who have rejected what these true valid popes have infallibly defined are actually the ones that have excommunicated themselves, ipso facto, automatically by that very fact that they hold positions that are not in line with what these true valid popes have taught throughout history.
They're actually outside the church.
And so it's quite ironic that they try to accuse us of not being in the Catholic Church when they themselves are not in the church.
I'm not sure exactly why he wasn't, they didn't attempt to excommunicate him.
I mean, when you actually look at it, it's quite ironic that they would try to, it's quite ridiculous that they would actually try to excommunicate anyone when they've actually said Paul VI, for example, stated, who claimed to be a pope in the 1960s and 70s, that he has lifted the excommunications against the Eastern schismatics.
But they actually have attempted to excommunicate certain people who claim to be traditional Catholics.
One example is Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre, the founder of the Society of Pius X. He was excommunicated by John Paul II in early July 1988.
After on July 30th, 1988, he consecrated four bishops without the permission of the Vatican.
And his explanation as to why he did it was that he wanted to make sure that valid Masses were going to be said in the future according to the traditional rites of the Catholic Church.
And yet in 72 hours, John Paul II excommunicated him.
This is quite amazing considering the fact that John Paul II gave relics and donations to openly schismatic groups such as the Eastern so-called Orthodox.
He gave them relics, donations, including $100,000 donation to one openly schismatic church.
John Paul II went into the synagogue in Rome and bowed his head as the Jews said a prayer for the coming of their Messiah, which they don't believe it's Christ, on April 13, 1986.
He on March 21st, 2000, John Paul II said, may St. John the Baptist protect Islam, a religion that denies the divinity of Christ, and says that all Christians are damned, and went into the mosque, on and on and on.
He actually, John Paul II, speaking about him, Gilbert Levini, who is a friend of John Paul II, a Jewish man, appeared on CNN Larry King Live and admitted that John Paul II actually gave him a menorah and sent his children letters of congratulations on the days that they had their bar mitzvahs.
This is something that if anyone studies the history of the Catholic Church is clearly stated as being apostasy from the Catholic faith.
And so the church teaches that if you obstinately or pertinaciously deny or doubt a teaching of the Catholic Church, you automatically place yourself outside the church.
And so you can see these kinds of actions.
Bank 16th, for example, on August 19th, 2005, goes into the synagogue in Cologne, Germany, and recites the Kaddish prayer with the chief rabbi.
And then on November 30th, 2006, he goes into the Blue Mosque in Turkey and actually takes his sandals off.
They show him around the mosque.
They then, the Muftis, then instruct him as to how to hold his hands in the Islamic way.
And then he walks over and faces east towards Mecca and prays with a Mufti.
This is to join Islam.
It's not the exact way a Muslim would consider someone as joining Islam, but for a Catholic, what he did, Benny 16th, going into the mosque and doing that, is definitely to join a different religion.
And so then the people are obviously scandalized by this.
They're going to go into the mosque.
They're going to go into the synagogues.
They're going to say it doesn't make any difference what religion you belong to.
And so, and this denies what these different popes have stated about the one true Christian faith, the Catholic faith being necessary for salvation, and that we are trying to bring people to Catholicism.
It's actually summed up in the words of one cardinal of the Novos Ordo Church who stated that before Vatican II, we understood ecumenism in the sense of a return in which the others would become Catholics and be converted.
This has been entirely abandoned since Vatican II.
And so there is no call to conversion.
There's just statement after statement about how they esteem Islam, that they esteem all these different religions.
And so these people are left in darkness, and these people have no charity for these other people.
They don't care about them at all.
And it's obviously contrary to the Bible, and that's why a lot of non-Catholics, even a lot of Protestants, can see the activities of this so-called hierarchy of the post-Vatican II church as being apostate, because it's clearly against words of Scripture where Jesus says, unless you believe in me, you'll die in your sins.
I'm sorry to interrupt, brother, but we've got a break here.
We'll be right back.
Here I am.
My guest is Brother Michael Diamond.
And he is contending, if I've been listening carefully, and I think I have, that the modern Catholic Church is counterfeit.
That's right, counterfeit.
That masses that are not said properly or in the proper language, Latin, if they're in English, they're counterfeit.
They're not real.
That the ordination of priests is false.
That those have been, those ordinations that have been done past a certain point are false, which would make, I think, most of the modern priests not real from his point of view.
Now, I am not a Catholic.
My wife is a devout Catholic.
No question about that.
Ramona was a Catholic.
No question about that.
But I'm not really in a position to ask the questions I ought to really be asking, in my opinion.
So I'm going to open the lines a little early, perhaps a little later this half hour, because what we're dealing with here is so incredibly controversial.
I mean, it really, in my way of thinking, it means that those who go to Mass now, those who go to confession, those who receive communion, are not receiving the real thing and therefore, I guess by definition, a conservative definition, are hellbound.
And that would seem to affect an awful lot of people out there and probably is going to put a lot of people off.
At any rate, back to Brother Diamond in a moment.
Brother Diamond, maybe you can explain to me if it's a counterfeit church, if there have been counterfeit ordinations, counterfeit masses.
I just I've always had a hard time, even with, in lesser discussions, understanding how those who are devout and who have faith and believe and I watch my wife before meals cross herself and pray and pray at that time and how the truly devout,
no matter the um uh the current construction of the um of the Catholic Church, uh how these people will be bound for hell, um, I just that just doesn't make sense to me.
Well, it's it's something where when you see the, for example, religious indifferentism that we're dealing with, most of the people who claim to be Catholic, for example, on that issue alone, have imbibed and assimilated this kind of heresy that it doesn't matter what religion you are.
So actually her crossing herself before the meal, if she holds, and again, I don't know exactly what she holds, but if her position is it doesn't make any difference what religion you really are, then see, all these things they may be, they think neat and nice and helpful in their own way of thinking, but they don't believe that they're really necessary.
They don't believe the Catholic faith is necessary.
I'm saying that they most people do believe that, and they see that Bank 16 is going into the mosque and he's facing east towards Mecca, and they're going into the synagogue and praising different religions constantly.
I mean constantly, because next year will be 40 years straight worth of Vatican official newspapers that I've gone through, weekly issues, and you can see this apostasy.
It's constant.
It's all the time, and people are imbibing this stuff, and it's a denial of what the church teaches, that there is one means of salvation, and that is the Catholic faith.
And so most of the people have accepted this, or they don't care.
And so this is the problem.
And see, we have all the evidence.
Like this new book that I was talking about, The Truth About What Really Happened to the Catholic Church after Vatican II, nothing like this that we know of has ever come out.
And it is irrefutable.
If people simply just look at the facts and even look at our website, mostholyfamilymonastery.com, and even if they have questions, they can call us anytime at 585-567-4433.
And this is what's happening, though.
And with this book now being available, for those of goodwill, they can look at the evidence, they can see the facts, they can see what has happened, and then they'll have to make their decision what they're going to do about this.
I mean, even the issue of abortion, for example, that some people think this post-Vatican II counterfeit Catholic Church stands against, actually, they don't stand against abortion because they allow people who support abortion to receive the sacraments.
That's why none of them are excommunicated.
They're able to receive the sacraments pretty much anywhere.
The others, there are numerous people who claim to be Catholic that support abortion, vote for it.
And none of them are ever excommunicated.
In fact, the United States Conference of So-Called Catholic Bishops posted that their official policy would be that each bishop would decide for himself and his diocese whether he would give communion to people who support abortion.
And Cardinal Ratzinger, at the time that this was drawn up several years ago, said that their policy of letting each bishop decide whether they give communion to pro-abortion politicians is, quote, very much in line with the way the Vatican sees this issue.
So therefore, you can support the killing of the unborn, and you can receive the sacraments.
Okay, so when these people want to talk about how we're not Catholic, as we're traditional Catholics, they don't know what the Catholic faith is.
In fact, actually, this one lady who wrote in talking about how she didn't think I was baptized in the Catholic Church, it's quite interesting because many people have heard about just recently Benedict 16th just attempted to do away with limbo.
Now he says that unbaptized babies do not need to be baptized, that they can go to heaven without baptism.
So they don't even believe baptism is necessary.
It's just really, really interesting.
And see, this is predicted by the fully approved apparition of Our Lady of La Salette.
She appeared to two little children in La Salette, France, September 19, 1846, and she said, Rome will lose the faith and become the seat of the Antichrist.
The church will be in eclipse, seemingly blocked out.
And that this is predicted in the third secret of Fatima.
The people have read it.
The official theologian to Pope Pius XII stated, quote, in the third secret of Fatima, it is foretold, among other things, that the great apostasy in the church will begin at the top.
And so what is the Catholic Church?
It's those people.
And St. Athanasius stated that even, quote, even if the true church is reduced to a handful of true believers and one priest, they remain the true church of Jesus Christ on earth.
They released a document on June 26, 2000 that they purported to be the real Third Secret of Fatima.
Yes.
But it was not, because all the people who have really read the true Third Secret of Fatima stated, for example, that it speaks about a massive apostasy from the Catholic faith that will begin, as I just quoted that one theologian of Pius XII, will begin from what seems to be the very top of what a lot of people will believe is the Catholic Church,
namely a person who will claim to be Pope, who will actually be an anti-pope, a heretical anti-pope, that will promote an apostasy against the traditional Catholic religion.
That is the crisis that we're dealing with, and it's the worst crisis of all the crises in the whole history of the Catholic Church.
The spirit of Antichrist can be seen in, for example, what they're doing to the traditional teachings of the church.
It can be seen, for example, in what John Paul II promoted.
A Pope at the beginning of this century, Pope Pius X, for example, spoke about that Antichrist is the replacing of God with man, man in the place of God.
And when we look at John Paul II's writings, for example, this is something I discovered looking at his writings.
And you discover that he actually was teaching that actually every man is Christ.
He taught that each man is the way, each man is the truth, each man is the life.
On Christmas, in his first Christmas address that John Paul II gave on December 25, 1978, he said, Christmas is the feast of man.
Christmas is not the feast of man.
Christmas is the feast of the birthday of Jesus Christ.
It is not the feast of man.
In his first opening speech that he gave on October 22, 1978, he quotes the words of Matthew 16, 16, where St. Peter says to Jesus, you are the Christ, the Son of the living God.
And John Paul II says the words, you are the Christ, the Son of the living God, represent the new and definitive truth about man.
About man?
No, it represents the truth about Jesus Christ.
And so you can see that John Paul II himself, we saw the fulfillment of Rome losing the faith and becoming the seed of the Antichrist during the reign of Paul VI, changing the Mass and all the sacraments and giving us all the heresies of Vatican II, and John Paul II putting man in the place of Christ, promoting that man is the way, man is the truth, man is the life, his religious indifferentism.
But specifically what the Bible states about Antichrist, and it's not mentioned at all in the Apocalypse, it's mentioned four times in the Bible.
And it's mentioned in 1 John 2, 22 and 1 John 4, 2, and 3, who is Antichrist, but he that denieth Jesus is the Christ.
This is Antichrist.
And the other verse, 1 John 4, 2 and 3, and every spirit that dissolveth Jesus is not of God, and this is Antichrist.
There was an early church heretic named Nestorius, and he taught that when God became a man, he did not become a man, but united himself to a mere human being named Jesus, and therefore divided Christ.
Okay, he said that God did not become a man, but united himself to a mere human being named Jesus.
Now, Pope Pius XI, who was a pope at the beginning of this century, stated in 1931, December 25th, that Nestorius attempted to dissolve Christ.
Okay, speaking about what the Antichrist will do.
Well, John Paul II taught that by the incarnation, Christ united himself to every human being.
And right after he talks about that, he states that Christianity is the deep amazement at each man.
And so we can see that John Paul II actually was attempting to dissolve Christ into every human being.
And that's why he promoted so much about the dignity of man, the rights of man.
And we can see it in Bennett 16th, who says in the document that he approved of in 2001, in this book that he approved of, that Jesus Christ does not have to be seen as the Messiah.
He was the one.
This is a book that the Vatican put out where it states that Jesus Christ does not have to be seen as the Messiah.
And he was the one that approved of this book.
And he's made many other statements saying that Jesus does not have to be seen as the Christ, as the Messiah, as God, that people can freely reject him.
And so this is Antichrist.
Every spirit that dissolveth Jesus is not of God, and this is Antichrist.
All right, Brother Diamond, I'd like to allow the audience to begin asking you some questions.
Gary in New Mexico, you're on with Brother Michael Diamond.
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Hey, thank you.
I got a question for him.
According to the Code of Canon Law from 1917, section 1325, paragraph 2 states that a Pope who fulfilled the canonical requirements for heresy, that is, who doubted or denied one of the more truth-to-be-believed divine and Catholic faith, would not have the moral right before God to be Pope.
Therefore, his remaining in office would be illicit, that is, illegal.
Still, if he refused to resign, he would still be the true Pope in the sense that his acts of papal governments would still be valid before God and the Church.
And it should go without saying his divine providence would never permit him from defining his heresy as excathedra, that is, defining it as doctrine or dogma.
Therefore, the brother's argument is entirely moot in the fact that irregardless, if a pope commits an act of heresy, he's still valid in all his acts as pope, that is, ordaining or electing bishops, and those bishops then ordaining priests would still be valid before God.
Okay, well, my answer to that is that there are certain things that happen by the ex opere operato, by the work which has been worked.
The church has always recognized the sacraments of the Eastern Schismatics as being valid if they use the traditional rite and form.
Okay, they do have valid priests that they ordain and valid bishops that they can consecrate.
But as far as a heretic still being pope, that's not correct.
A heretic, by definition, is someone who's not inside the church, but outside the church.
A heretic is someone who is outside the Catholic Church.
If someone's outside the Catholic Church, they do not have authority in the church.
And so that's why Pope Leo XIII, for example, points out that it quote, it is absurd to imagine that someone who is outside the church can command in the Church.
So, and that's why the church has taught that a Pope, a manifest heretic, could not be Pope because he would not be in the church but outside of it.
Yes, my question for the brother is: who is he to take away my religion?
I, for 50 years, was a Protestant, an agnostic, and then after attending Mass with my wife, who is also a devout Catholic, and also going through the RCIA, where I highly question everything, including the existence of God, reading St. Thomas Aquinas, and finally deciding that, yeah, this is for me.
Who is this person to take away my religion from me?
And I would have had nothing to do with it if it were not for Vatican II?
Well, I would say that you're following something that's not the Catholic religion.
And whether you like it doesn't mean that it's the Catholic religion.
What determines what the Catholic religion is is what these valid popes throughout history have defined as being the dogmas and teachings that make up what you have to hold to be Catholic.
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So the bottom line is that – Who are you to say what's what, brother?
Well, no, actually, these guys that are claiming to be popes in the hierarchy of the Catholic Church have attempted to take away the faith from people by destroying the sacraments, by changing all the teachings of the church.
No, because this so-called church that they follow has, for example, fully agreed with the Lutherans on the doctrine of justification.
John Paul II fully approved of the Vatican-Lutheran Agreement on Justification on October 31st, 1999.
In that document, it says that the idea of justification by faith alone, which is solemnly condemned in the Bible, is something that if you hold it, you are not seen as being condemned in Catholic teaching.
So they agree with the Lutherans, which that doctrine, faith alone, that false doctrine, is not only condemned in the Bible, but was condemned 13 times at the Council of Trent as heresy, as something no one can hold and be a Catholic, has now been fully accepted by this post-Vatican II church.
And judging from the state of the phone lines, which are blazing, a lot of you have questions.
And I truly do understand actually both positions.
The very conservative fundamentalist position that Brother Diamond is taking, and I understand the, for lack of a better word, anger that that caller and other callers, no doubt, are feeling.
I'm Mark Bell.
Here I am indeed.
My guest is Brother Michael Diamond, and he certainly is rousing lots and lots of comments, both pro and con, no doubt about that.
And what I'm going to do is pretty much leave it to the audience.
That means all of you, many devout Catholics out there, some of them frustrated, very concerned about what they're hearing.
As well, I certainly would be if I was a devout Catholic and I was hearing that everything that I believed was, in essence, counterfeit.
And unless I'm hearing all this wrong, that's exactly what Brother Diamond is saying.
We'll be right back.
Brother Diamond, you're contending that the current Mass, the one most Catholics attend, is not a valid Mass.
And you're also contending, I guess, that there's prophecy that suggests that would occur, yes?
And you can actually see all this demonstrate, as I said, on the website, mostholyfamilymonastery.com.
And for $10, they can actually get this new book, The Truth About What Really Happened to the Catholic Church after Vatican II, and another book that's 336 pages and three DVDs which contain 10 different programs for only $10.
And if they just can mail it, they can mail it to 4425 Schneider Road, Fillmore, New York, 14735, or they could order online at the website.
So it really provides all the evidence of what has happened.
I don't know if Malachi Martin ever told you that he actually assisted in an exorcism on Paul VI?
He said he actually said he was the one that was before John Paul I, and he died before John Paul I. And he actually said that Paul VI was so infested with demonic possession, he couldn't be seen in public.
And he claimed that he got it under control.
But these are the kinds of characters you're dealing with.
You're dealing with people who claim to be very nice, but actually they're destroying and taking away the Catholic faith from people.
And so that's where a person's anger should be directed towards these persons that have actually attempted to annihilate the whole history of Catholicism, all its teachings, change all the sacraments.
Most of their money is going off to pay, you know, scandals for these pedophile priests.
And, you know, look at the fruits.
Look at what these guys that are going to think of a vocation of the priesthood.
We had someone on our radio program last night that said in 40 years he never heard a priest talk about, say anything about mortal sin.
When he went for a vocation of the priesthood, the vocation director recommended that he go out and see a prostitute and read Playboy magazine.
So he took it up with the bishop, and the bishop said, well, I couldn't recommend a prostitute, but I think reading Playboy Magazine is a good idea.
This is the kind of activity you see here.
And so we've never seen anything like this, something so scandalous and such on a wide scale ever before Vatican II.
This is only a phenomenon that has been seen since the Second Vatican Council.
So, I mean, look at the fruits.
Our Lord says, by their fruits you shall know them.
If you were in a position to do something, if you were the Pope, if you were in a position to do something about the scandals racking the church today, what is it you would do?
Richard in Indiana, you're on with Brother Diamond.
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Hi, Don.
I just had a question for you.
You know, Isaac Newton believed in his time that Catholicism was dogmated then as well.
But due to hypocrisy laws in his time, he wasn't able to speak about his beliefs.
But the law also made him an ordained priest.
That was part of one of the things in order for him to hold his scholarly position in the scientific community, he had to be an ordained priest.
But one of my questions to you is, do you feel the same way as it was then prior to now in the second one as you did in the first, as he did in the first?
My question was, Isaac Newton, he believed the same way as you do now with the second coming of the Catholic Church.
He believed then in the first coming, you know, that it was totally dogmated by their beliefs, mainly due to the reasons of the Jesus being part of God and the Holy Spirit and was all seeing other gods before the one.
And so he asked the priesthood to actually, you know, excommunicate him due to that reason.
But my question is, do you believe the same way that Isaac Newton believed then?
Even though you're talking about Catholicism II, he believed the same thing in Catholicism I?
If anyone holds to what these popes have defined as being the teachings of the Catholic Church, I would be in agreement with all those persons that hold the same position, that as a Catholic, you have to hold what has been infallibly taught by all these true valid popes throughout history.
And that's why with these anti-popes that we're dealing with, the last five of them, you can line up their teachings with what the popes have taught throughout history.
I mean, are you going to follow what the church and the popes have taught throughout history, or are you going to follow what these so-called popes have taught over the last 50 or 60 years?
You can't follow both.
You can't.
St. Paul points out that in 2 Thessalonians 2, verses 15 and 16, he says, maintain the traditions which you have learned, either by word or by epistle.
So you can't maintain the traditional teachings of Catholicism if you know what they are, and a person should find out what they are, and at the same time embrace all these new teachings that have flowed out of the Second Vatican Council.
They're in many cases word-for-word opposite teachings on different issues of faith and morals.
Elizabeth in Nebraska, you're on with Brother Diamond.
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Good evening, gentlemen.
Good evening.
I had a question, but after listening to this horrid, vituperative verbiage coming out of Brother Diamond's mouth, I think my question has been answered.
I cannot believe that a loving God of any faith would be so petty.
Jesus actually states in the Bible, someone claims to believe in Jesus.
In Matthew 7, 13, he says, Broad is the way that leadeth to hell, and many there are that go that way.
And straight and narrow is the gate that leadeth to heaven, and how few there are who find it.
Those are the words of Jesus Christ, Matthew 7, 13.
They're not my words.
They're his words.
So the sad thing is that you do have an all-loving, all-merciful God, and he's also all-just, and he wants people to follow and do the things that he's commanded to be done.
Sharon, in Manitoba, Canada, you're on with Brother Diamond.
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Thank you, Art.
Yeah, as I'm listening, and I do think it's good to have this conversation, even though many, many people will disagree, and including myself, it's kind of hitting me, I'll just say it, in a general way, as exclusive to me.
The way I look at it is I think that the beauty of man is the fact that we do have free will to choose love or to choose evil or hate.
And I think, Brother Diamond, what I'm struggling with is whether it's the Catholic faith or tradition or whether it's Judaism or Buddhism, when I'm struggling to look at a faith to follow, I know I have that free will.
And it's my choice as to whether I choose to believe in these particular kinds of teachings or another teaching.
I think what I'm looking for basically is, is this faith, whatever faith I choose, is it expressing love?
Is it expressing compassion?
I think that's what I'm looking for, as opposed to perhaps following a more rigid, detailed dogma.
I think that's what will be my guiding light, so to speak.
Okay, well, the church actually has, we're not saying that the Masses, a liturgy, for example, there are Eastern Rite liturgies that are conducted in the English language.
The first critical thing is that they have the right translation.
And so that's the problem.
That's the main problem.
The main problem with these Nova Sordo English Masses is that they translated, mistranslated the word many to all.
And so if it were said in English, if they kept many originally, the sacrament actually would be valid.
But they changed the word.
So it's more about the words being the translation, not necessarily the language.
Although the language is important, in the case of the Latin Trentine Mass, for example, the reason why Pope St. Pius V said this missile is never to be changed is so that people didn't start to take away things and say, let's change this, let's change that, let's add this, let's add that.
And of course, that's what happened when they brought it into the vernacular languages after Vatican II, that you had change after change after change, and there was no end to it.
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I kind of get that, because Latin is a dead language, and so its meanings are fixed.
So whereas modern languages can keep changing over time.
And also, they removed 70% of the traditional prayers were ripped out of the Mass.
So it's not just that they brought it into English.
They changed almost everything.
And it was done, the Nova Sordo Mass, which was promulgated by Paul VI on April 3rd, 1969.
It was promulgated and devised, this new Mass, with the help of six Protestant ministers, and that's why it's so Protestant.
And they ripped out all the prayers and altar railings no longer there.
The tabernacles off to the side.
Altar girls are now used, which were condemned specifically by three different popes.
You have people all over the altar going into the tabernacle, communion the hand, and it's just all kinds of things that it's circus masses, clown masses, kitty masses, animal masses.
Yeah, the issue of Mary has always kind of bothered me because the apparitions of Mary and her giving certain revelations to people, it doesn't seem to fit with how God is revealed throughout Scripture, where it's either through Scripture or through a prophet.
Whereas Mary, I mean, I kind of look at her as she's as alive as my dead grandparents are.
You know, Jesus Christ is the only person who is alive and can intercede on her behalf.
Obviously, God gave us the books of the Bible, but the Catholic Church actually decided what books were to be in the Bible.
And actually, even non-Catholics accept the authority of the Church's judgment back in, say, the 300s, late 300s at these councils where they said these books are actually the inspired books of the Bible.
And so actually, both Catholics and non-Catholics accept the canon that was given of what books were in the Bible by the Catholic Church.
Now, later, the Protestants dropped about six books.
There were 73 books in the Catholic Bible.
There were 66 in the Protestant Bible.
So actually, seven were dropped.
So this is something that, no, that's why the church was very careful as they were actually, with the Bible, correctly taking down these passages and transferring this information carefully.
That's why the church didn't allow anyone, for example, to take a Bible because there are only so many that could be used.
They're very expensive.
There are only a few.
And so it wasn't a case where you had a printing press that you could print out copies for everybody.
But the church was very careful to carefully take down these different books of the Bible, what was in them, and carefully make sure that there are no errors that crept in.
And again, judging from the lines, you have many, many questions, and that's what we're here for.
From the high desert, which is roaring with wind this night, I'm Art Bell.
Good morning, everybody.
My guest is Brother Michael Diamond.
And in case you missed it in the beginning of the program, Brother Michael Diamond is a well-known person in the traditional Catholic world.
He's been a traditional Catholic Benedictine monk for 14 years, one of the world's foremost experts on the changes that have occurred in the Catholic world since Vatican II.
He is a producer of more than 10 DVD video documentaries on what he calls the post-Vatican II counterfeit Catholic Church, prophecy, and other subjects.
He and his monastery specialize in the study of how this post-Vatican II counterfeit Catholic Church contradicts Catholic doctrine and fulfills prophecy.
He is also the author of a recent book entitled Padre Pio, I guess it is, a Catholic priest who worked miracles and bore the wounds of Jesus Christ on his body.
The tapes, magazines, and books produced by his monastery have been distributed by the hundreds of thousands.
Tiger.
Somebody calling himself Tiger in Lincoln City, Oregon asks the following.
Art, could you please ask your guest where in the Bible it is stated that Catholicism is the only true religion?
Isn't being Christian enough?
We will ask that in a moment.
Actually, simple but a very interesting question, Brother Diamond.
Where in the Bible does it say if it says that Catholicism is the only true way to God, the only true religion?
Well, I would say that there are certain things, obviously, that are abolished, and there's some things that are unchangeable, like the Ten Commandments you're mentioning.
Our Lord talks about how Moses allowed people to have many wives because of the hardness of their heart.
The Lord, Jesus, spoke about his law, to love thy neighbor as thyself and to love the Lord God with all thy heart and with all thy mind.
So it was, in a way, kind of a continuation.
But I have just a quick question for you, Brother Diamond.
What do you believe about the little horn in Daniel chapter 7 being the Catholic Church and Catholicism representing that kingdom which came out of the divided Roman Empire and overthrowing the ten tribes of Europe, the ten barbaric tribes, which involved the Huns and the Vandals and those ten horns and Daniel.
I think that this church has been bad from the beginning.
And if you look at how they murdered the early reformers, Jerome and Hus and also John Wycliffe, and even in changing the Sabbath, they had no right and no place to do that.
They put themselves in the place of God.
And I think you're right on with what's going to happen.
And there's already some of the things that you mentioned, obviously, like the dietary laws and circumcision.
St. Paul points out that circumcision is not a critical issue any longer.
So if you're going to follow the Saturdays being the Sabbath, then obviously you would have to logically follow also those things that were still followed in the Old Testament, such as observing circumcision and the dietary laws and other things.
But Jesus says in Matthew 18, 17, if a person doesn't hear the church, let him be to thee as the heathen and the publican.
So if you want to follow Jesus, he says to hear the church.
And he who doesn't, let him be to thee as the heathen and the publican.
He said you shouldn't set priests or bishops before you because he is aware of the ease of the corruption of man.
And so I think the Quakers themselves have the closest thing to the right idea because they gather together, discuss the Bible, discuss what it teaches, what they've learned, and then go on.
And they don't put no man before them, but they only put Christ Jesus before themselves.
And Mr. Dino himself said that he's putting the teachings of the church, which is the true religion.
So it's a historical fact that there was a church started as the Catholic Church, that Peter was appointed as the first head of the church, that he had successors, that there was a hierarchy, and that that continued.
That's a historical fact, and no one can test that.
Mr. Diamond, I've been sitting here listening for the Last hour.
And you do sound a very intelligent man.
You sound very versed in the scriptures that you've been quoting quite often.
What do you think about the scripture that states that no man comes to the Father but through the Son?
And at the last college on the year, he was saying that you were putting your faith in a church, the Catholic Church, and this doctrine.
And there have been many, many aspects of the Catholic doctrine that have taken away from scriptures.
They've taken away and they've added.
They've been able to mislead a lot of their followers over the centuries, I think basically due to the fact that their followers weren't versed in reading the Bible and the scriptures for themselves.
They put their faith and trust in men, in priests, in the Pope.
Well, as an example, praying to saints, there's nowhere in the Bible that says for us to pray to saints.
There's nowhere in the Bible that says for us to go to confession to priests.
They have no power to intercede.
Can I say this, please?
They have no power to intercede on our behalf for our salvation.
Jesus Christ is the only person that has that power.
No, it's something where Jesus Christ set up certain people in his church, and there are certain valid popes, and in certain rare situations, for example, there are extraordinary definitions of some issues on faith or morals so that people know what they have to believe.
Otherwise, everyone's just speculating as to what they believe.
And you didn't have the Bible essentially.
Most people didn't have for the first 1,500 years.
And what I'm saying is many people have been misled because they put their faith in a man.
There's no man on the face of the earth that has the power to intercede for the salvation of mankind, for our souls.
There's no man.
Only one man was able to do that, and that's Jesus Christ.
And if you do believe in the Bible, which, I mean, you're stating all these scriptures, you're quoting scriptures, you know, do you believe that Jesus Christ died on the cross and was resurrected on the third day and sits on the right-hand side of God?
Because if we're not going to be able to say that, you see, what I'm saying is in Matthew 16, he gives the authority to Peter.
He says, whatever you bind on earth, it shall be bound in heaven.
Whatever you loose on earth, it shall be loose in heaven.
And the early church fathers point out what teachings you have to hold to be a Christian, namely the dogma of the papacy, the Eucharist, the Mass, the necessity of baptism.
And these things are rejected, unfortunately, by all non-Catholic churches.
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Well, tell me, why do you think that they're rejecting these doctrines of the Catholic Church?
I mean, you know, you look around what's going on today, you're having a mass exodus of followers who are leaving the Catholic faith because they have finally picked up their Bibles and read them on their own.
They did not sit back and let a man lead them.
It mislead them.
They step back now and they're reading their Bibles now.
And it's seen that all the doctrines of the Catholic Church is nothing but the same thing.
If you see our tapes, which all of them are for free online at mostholyfamilymonastery.com, they can watch the information that John Paul II, for example, preached the gospel of the Antichrist, that Antichrist is seen in Benedict 16th and him saying that Jesus does not have to be seen as the Messiah.
That is Antichrist.
Every spirit that denieth that Jesus is the Christ, this is Antichrist.
So this is Antichrist that we're seeing.
He is alive and on earth.
And that's what we're seeing.
So I just really encourage people to get the information.
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They're saying that we shouldn't convert other people, that we should not even try to convert other people to the Catholic faith, that we should not proselytize.
We should not try to convert non-Catholics to the Catholic faith.
Jenny in Washington, you're on with Brother Diamond.
unidentified
Hi, Art.
Brother Diamond.
I have two questions now.
I only had one when I started.
My first question, and I'm terribly concerned that this is going to come out sounding challenging, and I want to stress that I don't mean it that way.
My understanding of what happened at the Protestant Reformation was that Martin Luther and the others that began the Protestant Reformation did not believe in the infallibility of the Pope.
That was one of their main precepts, their main objections when they broke away from the Catholic Church.
Now, if I'm hearing you correctly, Brother Diamond, it sounds like you don't believe in the infallibility of the Pope either.
No, it's actually, it's we believe in the infallibility of the Popes, and that these guys have, quote, infallibly, these recent claimants to the papacy have, quote, infallibly bound heresies to the people that are following them proves that they cannot be true popes.
Because when a pope, as Vatican 1, 1870 defined, speaks on faith or morals to the whole church defining a doctrine, then he speaks infallibly.
Okay, that's what Jesus says in the Bible, where he says, I've prayed for thee, Peter, that thy faith fail not.
That's actually what the word infallibility means, is faith will not fail in those situations.
So if we follow and believe that the popes have this ability of defining doctrines infallibly, then therefore what they've defined as being infallible Catholic teaching is the opposite of what these guys at Vatican II, Paul VI, for example, said is infallible teaching now.
It absolutely contradicts what these popes taught on his teaching.
Martin Luther did not, among other, it wasn't just papal infallibility.
There are a number of issues that Martin Luther rejected.
He was an Augustinian priest.
He left the priesthood, married a nun, and believed that someone's saved by faith alone, which if you look in James 2, verse 24, St. James says, you see that a man is justified by works and not by faith alone.
So these are the things that, among others, that why he left.
No, we're not saying that we don't believe in papal infallibility.
We're proving that the church teaches that true popes do have the charism of infallibility.
And therefore, these guys that are claiming to be popes, quote, infallibly defining at Vatican II these new doctrines that contradict what these other popes have taught, proves that they do not have infallibility, and they do not have infallibility because they're not true popes, but anti-popes.
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Wayne in Montreal, Canada, you're on the air with Brother Diamond.
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Good evening, Art and good evening, Brother Diamond.
I want to tell you, first of all, I agree with you very much that Vatican II is a great blight and evil on the church.
And I wish that I come from the province of Quebec up here, where it is very, very hard to find the Tridentine Mass even being said at all.
It's very, very persecuted up here, and I'm all for the work you're doing in promoting the older ritual.
But I must say, when it comes to what you refer to as the Catholic Church and the papacy, I, who was a Protestant most of my life, converted to Catholicism for one reason, the belief in the real presence of Christ in the Eucharist.
And that was why the Pope came as a side issue.
I now don't lean particularly towards any church, but the last church that I attended the most was the Russian Orthodox Church.
The Eastern Orthodox churches, as far as I can see, carry the fullness of the early teachings.
And they have never had any problems, and they don't have popes.
Here's the fundamental contradiction, though, with quote orthodoxy, is that they say that they only accept the first seven councils of the church because they feel that there are enough bishops to be present at these councils, and so therefore they feel that since so many bishops were present, that these seven councils, the first seven, have to be accepted.
But yet, there are other councils at that very time that had even more bishops or an equal number of bishops to the councils that they accept as being valid, that they don't accept as being valid, and that they say that you must reject.
So basically, if they say, well, there's so many bishops there, we have to accept the council, why didn't they accept these other councils that had an equal number of bishops?
No, they're at the during the first times of the first seven councils of the church.
They say that we accept the first seven councils of the church because there are so many bishops that were present.
Well, there are other councils that the, quote, Orthodox do not accept that had an equal number of bishops at these false councils that they don't accept.
By what authority do they not accept these other councils?
That's the problem.
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Have you ever, by the way, yourself, attended the Orthodox service of Pasca that is held on the Saturday night of Easter that goes into Sunday morning.
You know, it seems to me that the true aberration of the word of Jesus came about with the Romanization of this church, which was never an intent of Jesus.
And after Romanization, it became a European institution that was responsible for every kind of miscreant, sinful behavior that imagined.
From the killing of tens of millions of people to the degradation of women to the expansion of slavery.
And what's going on here is this so-called New Testament Word of God was written in a swirling ethos of myth and memories anywhere from 50 to 300 years after the fact.
There were no written documents, nothing written by Christ or by his followers at the time.
You said I asked you what religion you believe in.
You said you don't hold anything in it.
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I believe in monotheism, if you'd like to know the fact, in a spirituality that I hold personally with a God that I study in a philosophical and spiritual manner.
You know, when Jesus, our Lord, was crucified, in the Temple of the Holy of Holies, there was a great thick sheet that was rent from top to bottom.
And that took away the definition that we need to go before anyone except straight to the Father for salvation, for repentance.
And we're supposed to confess our sins one to another, the Bible says, because all are guilty and all fall short of the kingdom of God and of the glory of God.