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From the high desert and the great American Southwest, I bid you all good evening, good morning, good afternoon, wherever you may be in the world's time zones, each and everyone covered like a blanket by this program, Coast to Coast AM, the very largest program of its type in the world.
Wow, that's really something to be able to say that, isn't it?
Very good evening to you.
I'm Art Bell, and I'm here now for the second part of my weekend, sharing my weekend with you.
And a fascinating one, indeed, it is.
There has been a large earthquake, folks, and an accompanying tsunami.
Now, the reports are early.
This occurred in the Solomon Islands, actually a pair of powerful earthquakes undersea, one 8.0, and then a 6.0 something or another following that.
A tsunami several yards high crashed into the Solomon Islands.
Now, I'm getting late word.
Early word on this is always very difficult.
We know of some dead.
The Associated Press was talking to a guy on the phone, then it cut out abruptly before he could give his name or any further information.
But we're now learning that several villages in the Solomon Islands were completely destroyed by a tsunami in the west of the South Pacific Nation on Monday.
That's according to the chairman of the National Disaster Council.
Some villages, he said, are completely wiped out.
So that's the latest word we have.
This sort of thing always comes slowly to the news, particularly when it occurs on the other side of the world.
So kind of keep your eyes open as the evening goes on for more news, but an eight-point earthquake is big no matter how you crack it up.
We'll get to more of the never to be disappointed by how depressing it is world news in a moment.
But there is one.
I'm going to put a picture of Erin up, oh, I don't know, in the next month or so.
She's already kind of looking like a walking basketball.
She's only 4'8, and she's always telling me, I think I'm gonna blow up.
So tonight, you know, being April 1st, I looked at her with solemn eyes.
She knows I was preparing for the show, and I said, hey, Anna, I wasn't going to tell you about this, but there is a gal in New Mexico earlier in the evening, and she's only eight months old and about five feet tall, and she blew up.
And she paused for a moment and looked at me and laughed.
She's getting to know me, so it didn't work.
But she keeps saying she's going to blow up.
A volunteer search team, this is a very sad story, found the bodies of two young brothers encased in ice on the Red Lake Indian Reservation Sunday, more than four months after they had disappeared.
Tristan Anthony White, four years of age, Avery Lee Stately, just two years of age, and had been missing since November 22nd.
The two boys who lived on the reservation near the Canadian border disappeared while playing outside their home.
Iranian state TV has done it again, a new video showing two of the 15 captured British sailors pointing to a spot on the map of the Persian Gulf where they were seized, acknowledging it was Iranian territorial waters.
British Foreign Office immediately denounced the video, saying it was completely unacceptable for these pictures to be shown on TV at all, and that is true.
Two Democratic presidential candidates broke previous fundraising records during the first three months of the year.
Any guesses out there who it might be?
First would be Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton setting the bar high at $26 million in new contributions for the quarter.
Former Senator John Edwards, more than $14 million since the beginning of the year.
Clinton also transferred $10 million additional from her Senate campaign, bringing her total receipts for the quarter to $36 million.
That's a lot of money.
So we're going to have a woman and with Obama, I guess, a black man running for president.
And it should be quite, boy, it's going to be interesting, isn't it?
Very, very interesting.
As six U.S. troops die, McCain, as McCain tours Baghdad after a heavily guarded trip to a Baghdad market, Senator McCain insisted Sunday that a U.S.-Iraqi security crackdown in the capital was working, and he said Americans lacked a, quote, full picture, end quote, of the progress.
U.S. military later reported six soldiers were killed in roadside bombings southwest of Baghdad, four soldiers killed responding to the blast that killed the first two.
And from the Philippines, bowls of piping hot barracuda soup were the much anticipated treat when the Roa family gathered for a casual, relaxing Sunday meal.
Within hours, all six fell deathly ill.
So did two dozen others from the same neighborhood.
Some complained of body-wide numbness.
Others had weakness in their legs.
Several couldn't speak or even open their mouths.
Seafood poisoning because of warming seawater.
Oh, and speaking of seawater, unnamed sources, now how this got through without our knowing about it is just astounding to me.
But Death Valley will be Death Valley no more if this continues.
Unnamed sources say that piping has already been installed from an undisclosed location at the Pacific Ocean.
Now, Death Valley, as you know, is below sea level.
So what they're going to do is pump seawater.
Well, not yet.
Actually, they're not even going to pump it.
I mean, if they had somebody with a big enough mouth, they'd just suck and it would come automatically because remember, Death Valley is below sea level.
So they're going to fill Death Valley with seawater, and it's going to be Death Valley Lake.
unidentified
It's going to be a big sucking sea siphon.
art bell
And what used to be the lowest area on land would be a giant lake.
A chimpanzee capable of doing simple tasks such as repetitive factory work has been created in the laboratory by modifying the brain of a chimpanzee embryo with human DNA.
Oh my God.
This chimp has got a measurable IQ of 68.
68, well within the range necessary to accomplish simple tasks like janitorial, some factory work, stoop labor, for example, on a farm.
Corporate sponsors, military and governments worldwide are all interested in the new animal.
It'll not be subject to laws governing work hours and safety in factory environments, would be considered expendable on the battlefield and can be bought and sold on the open markets.
Expected the first super chimps will be available for sale to selected corporations and entities and government agencies within about two years.
That a lively market in the animals will develop quickly as demand is expected to be extremely high.
A polar ice expert said on Wednesday that a Texas-sized piece of the Antarctic ice sheet is thinning, possibly due to global warming, could cause the world's oceans to rise significantly.
They said surprisingly rapid changes were occurring in Antarctica's Admondson Sea embayment.
That's what this is called embayment, which faces the southern Pacific Ocean, but that more study was needed to know how fast it was melting and how much it caused the sea to actually rise.
Warning came in a joint statement issued at the end of a conference of U.S. and European polar ice experts at the University of Texas in Austin.
The scientists blamed the melting ice on changing winds around Antarctica and said they were causing warmer waters to flow beneath the ice shelves.
Not good.
The wind change, they said, appeared to be the result of several factors, including global warming, ozone depletion in the atmosphere, and natural variability.
Now, I read to you a little bit yesterday of a report that's going to be released next week on climate change.
Let me read you just a little bit more.
The report says global warming has already degraded conditions for many species, coastal areas, and poor people.
With a more than 90% level of confidence, scientists say the draft report say man-made global warming over the next three decades has a discernible influence on many physical and biological systems.
But as the world's average temperature warms from 1990 levels, the projections get more dire.
Add, let's say, 1.8 degrees Fahrenheit, 1 degrees Celsius is the calculation scientists use.
And between 400 million and 1.7 billion extra people cannot get enough water.
Some infectious diseases and allergenic pollens rise.
Gosh, we've seen some of that already.
And some amphibians go extinct, but the world's food supply, especially in northern areas, actually could increase.
That's likely outcome around 2020.
So this is not just your children.
It's you.
Add another 1.8 degrees, and as many as 2 billion people could be without water.
That's, let's see, 2 billion people.
That's what, about a third of what we have here now on the world.
20 to 30% of the world's species near extinction.
Also, more people begin dying because of malnutrition, disease, heat waves, floods, and droughts, all caused by global warming.
And again, as I told you yesterday, the scientist says from Harvard that the worst stuff is not going to happen.
He says, because we can't be that stupid.
Again, he says, not that I think the projections aren't that good, but because we just can't be that stupid.
China announced Wednesday it's going to launch a joint mission with Russia to Mars in 2009, marking an important milestone in space cooperation between those two countries.
Small Chinese satellite will take off on a Russian rocket, according to the agreement signed Monday between the China National Space Administration and the Russia Federal Space Agency.
The agreement signed during an ongoing three-day visit to Russia by the Chinese president follows pledges by Moscow in recent months to work closely with Beijing on exploration of both Mars and the moon.
I wonder if we'll get involved in some kind of race with them.
Sure, you heard about this one.
Pilots of a Chilean commercial jetliner spotted a flaming object falling past their plane as it was headed for a landing in New Zealand.
U.S. experts suggested the objects were likely meteors burning up in the Earth's atmosphere, but indeed, it looks as though it was part of a Russian satellite coming back home, slightly off course, according to what Russians said they thought would happen.
Can you imagine being in an airplane looking out and seeing a flaming object more or less headed toward you from above?
On October 1st of 2002, while vacationing in the southern Chilean city of Concepcion, a group of family members found what appeared to be a small humanoid creature.
The minuscule being measured about 7.2 centimeters long.
That's very, very, very, very small.
It has a relatively large head, two arms with long fingers and two legs.
The discovery first reported by Mega News Service, which is a local news service in the Santiago area, according to previously gathered evidence and interviews conducted by journalist Rodrigo Garte, the bizarre creature was found among bushes by one of the children during an outdoor trip.
The child allegedly picked it up, wrapped it with a piece of paper.
The Child claims it stayed alive, get this for about eight days, and in some instances, even opened its eyes.
unidentified
Yikes.
art bell
Nevertheless, after supposedly being dead for a few days, the small creature displays signs of advanced decomposition, even appears to be in a strange state of mummification.
You wouldn't think that would occur in just a very few days.
What would our world be like without a moon?
Well, a lot of people have asked that question.
Here are a few answers on a daily basis.
If we didn't have the moon, we'd still have large breakers on the continental west coasts because of the rotation speed of Earth.
So we'd still have big waves.
And, of course, the existence of storms out at sea and sloping beaches.
The waves we're most familiar with from minute to minute are caused by small ripples out at sea caused by storms.
That's like the butterfly effect, right?
Which get amplified then into majestic breakers by their motion up a sloping beach and the rotation of the Earth from west to east, which gives them added momentum.
Without the moon, though, well, look, we'd still have high and low tides due to the sun, but these would be only half as tall as the lunar high and lunar low tides.
There would be, however, no neap or spring tides, which occur when the sun and the moon are on opposite sides of the earth or on the same side.
So, as far as anyone can tell, there'd be no impact on the issue of life on Earth because if ocean tides were important in getting life started, for example, mixing up the so-called primordial soup, solar tides ought to have been more than adequate to do the job three and a half to four billion years ago.
Without the moon, there would have been no necessity for breaking the calendar year into 12 months.
A large body of music titles would have also, of course, never occurred.
The tidal stress upon the Earth due to gravity from the moon would have vanished, and some feel this might have had an impact on how active the crust of the Earth would be in terms of volcanism and continental drift.
It is possible that the Earth would have been slightly less geologically active, and when the Earth's atmosphere was first being formed via volcanic outgassing, perhaps it would have taken a bit longer for the atmosphere to have reached high enough concentrations necessary for synthesizing life.
It seems, however, that the physics of the interior of the Earth, the rate of convection of the mantle, is far more under the control of non-lunar influences intrinsic to the Earth itself.
So no big deal if we didn't have the moon, I guess.
Without the moon, there would be no 26,000 precession of the equinoxes, which is due to the torquing of the Earth by the Moon.
This would be replaced by a much slower precession caused by the influence of the Sun, Venus, and Mars.
The axis of the Earth's rotation in space would point toward the same spot in the sky for hundreds of thousands, even millions of years.
Recent computer simulations suggest that without the moon, the Earth's axis tilt might have been very different than it is today.
This would have caused very different seasons on the Earth, and the impact that this could have had on the developing biosphere ranges from moderate to catastrophic.
The moon actually seems to stabilize the tilt of the Earth's rotation axis over the course of billions of years, so I guess it is a good thing that we have the moon, right?
Besides, it's pretty to look at.
All right, let's do some unscreened open lines.
What do you say?
Let me give you the appropriate numbers to call, and we'll get you on the air and see if you've got something of great interest to relate to everybody else.
Here are the numbers.
West of the Rockies, if that's where you be, 1-800-618-8255.
That's 1-800-618-8255.
East of the Rockies.
Everybody, way back there, 1-800-825-5033.
That's 1-800-825-5033.
If you are a first-time caller, it's Area Code 818-501-4721.
That's Area Code 818-501-4721.
Wildcard line would be Area Code 818-501-4109.
And finally, outside the country, 800-893-0903.
800-893-0903.
We will be right back.
Well, alrighty, then.
Since this is April 1, now one of the news stories that I read you was Complete BS.
I ran it past my producer back there, you know, McBordoff back there, and he got it all right.
Second guess, not the first one.
Which one of those stories do you think was Complete BS?
First time caller line, you're on the air.
Hello.
unidentified
Hi, Art.
This is Dorothy from California.
art bell
Oh, I thought you were going to say Kansas.
unidentified
No, California.
I was wondering, do you ever hear from the fellow that died, you know, Damon, was it Damon Brinkley or Daniel Brinkley or something like that?
art bell
Daniel is very much alive.
unidentified
Oh, great.
How's he doing?
art bell
Far.
Just as far as I know, he's fine.
Living, I think, for the most part in the Las Vegas area, just over the hill from me.
unidentified
Oh, great.
Are you ever going to have him on the show again?
art bell
It's entirely possible, sure.
Daniel is, he knows he's welcome any time.
unidentified
Okay, great.
Thank you.
art bell
Oh, you're very welcome.
Hey, by the way, before you go, did you hear the first 30 minutes of the program?
unidentified
No, I didn't.
I was out walking my dogs.
art bell
Oh, all right, then.
All right, thank you, and take care.
West of the Rockies, you are on the air.
unidentified
Wow, really?
You're kidding me?
art bell
No, I don't joke about such things.
Well, I might, but no, you're really on the air.
unidentified
This is Justin, just outside of Payad, Idaho, somewhere.
Trekking along.
art bell
Yes, sir.
Yeah, I heard that.
unidentified
Hey, A, you have got to be kidding about the monkey, man.
You have got to be.
It's April Fool's Day.
It's got to be a joke.
art bell
So you think the story about the monkey with the IQ in the 60s somewhere was baloney, huh?
unidentified
Yeah, it's got to be.
art bell
Wrong.
unidentified
Wrong.
art bell
That comes from Whitley Striber's unknown country.
It's absolutely correct.
unidentified
I'll be.
I will be.
art bell
And hey, that was not the BS story.
unidentified
Huh.
I am just dumbfounded.
Hey, and on the moon, you know, from the point of view of a lot of the people you've got on the show, that would be a particularly insidious thing for an alien culture to do, to put a base up there and observe us and mess with our gravity.
Our population would be a lot less right now if we didn't have that.
art bell
You're right about that.
Well, I guess it might be.
All right, sir, I've got to run.
Sorry, we're at a break.
I'm Art Bell.
Well, indeed, here I am.
Listen, everybody, in case you missed it yesterday, little Asia is due to make her appearance right about noon time on June 1st.
And you might wonder, how can we know that for sure?
Well, we know it because we set the date.
It's going to be by C-section.
And so June 1st, along comes Asia Rain.
Well, since nobody has gotten it, it shows you how strange and weird the normal news is.
You can make a story up out of whole cloth.
Like, for example, filling Death Valley up with siphoned seawater from the Pacific Ocean because it's below sea level and turning it into a lake.
You can make that up out of whole cloth, drop it in, and it just sort of floats right on by, and people go, oh, cool.
Go to fill up Death Valley.
Hmm, not bad idea.
Unbelievable.
Wildcard line, you're on the air.
Hello.
unidentified
Hello, Art.
art bell
How are you doing?
unidentified
All right.
I was hoping that the monkey story was the false one, but obviously it wasn't.
art bell
Well, not unless Whitley's messing with us, and he ran a story saying he wasn't going to do any more April Fool's jokes, so I don't think it's baloney.
It's entitled Human Genes Used to Create Super Chimp.
And you can see it on Whitley Streeber's Unknown Country website, so I'm afraid it's real.
unidentified
Well, basically, the Storyline Planet of the Apes was the same scenario indirectly.
I mean, there was time travel involved and all that, but they started out as being our pets.
art bell
Well, you know, they're starting to mix human DNA, what, 15% into a sheep, now more into a super chimpanzee.
I'm not so sure of this human DNA going into animals thing.
It's a good idea or not.
Maybe not.
unidentified
No, and I think, you know, the scenario is pretty ghastly.
And basically, you're talking about how if they, you know, make them into workers, they wouldn't be subjected to the labor laws and all that stuff.
Yeah.
Right?
I think, well, preferably they should just go ahead and clone humans because it's far more worthless species than any other animal.
But hey, Art, I think honestly, you're going to have, what, much more than one child to carry on?
I hope so, anyway.
art bell
Well, you never know.
unidentified
Maybe Cornelius would be a good name.
art bell
Cornelius?
I wouldn't lay that on any poor soul.
unidentified
Hey, I think, you know, better than Planet of the Apes, how about Planet of the Cats?
art bell
Planet of the Cats.
All right, Planet of the Cats.
Why not?
Asia Rainbell, her middle name is going to be Rain.
R-A-Y-N-E, by the way.
And why Rain?
Well, two reasons.
One, she was conceived in Hong Kong during a big rainstorm.
And two, because that was my wife's nickname, Rain, in college.
So seems to fit Asia Rain Bell.
Asia Rain Bell, it shall be.
West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Good morning.
unidentified
Hello.
My name's Chris.
I'm calling from Oregon.
art bell
Yes, Chris.
unidentified
Yeah, I have a question.
There's this star that's in the sky.
It's the brightest thing I've ever seen, and I can't figure out what it is.
art bell
How about Venus?
unidentified
Is that what it is?
art bell
Well, I'm taking a stab in the dark here.
unidentified
Yeah, I've just never seen it before.
art bell
Venus would be the brightest star in the sky.
unidentified
Oh, okay.
art bell
Unless the second coming is on the way, and we're being pointed toward it.
I mean, otherwise, it's probably Venus.
unidentified
What part of the sky are you seeing?
Thank you.
I was thinking it might have something to do with the second coming.
Uh-huh.
art bell
Well, it might.
What part of the sky are you seeing this star in?
unidentified
I don't know.
It's like I'm looking up to the west side and I can see it, and it's huge.
art bell
Sounds a lot like Venus.
You're in Oregon, right?
unidentified
Yeah, I'm in Oregon.
art bell
Okay, well, we'll have some others go out and take a look and see what they see.
Anything huge, untoward, in your western sky up there in Oregon, folks.
Northern California, I suppose, you'd see it as well.
For that matter, I'm sure I would here.
Let's go to a wildcard line and say, hello, you are on Ziera.
unidentified
Hello, Art.
This is James.
art bell
Hey, James.
unidentified
Me and my fiance had some questions about draconians.
art bell
We think that You have questions about what?
unidentified
Draconians?
art bell
Draconians.
unidentified
Yes, sir.
art bell
Okay.
unidentified
I've heard the topic come up on your show a couple times about draconians, and I was wondering where we could get some more information on that.
art bell
I don't have the slightest idea.
I really don't know what draconians are, to be honest with you.
What are they?
unidentified
You know, like lizard-type men.
Reptilians.
art bell
Ah, reptilians.
unidentified
Yeah.
art bell
What do you really want to know about them?
unidentified
Just like their general habits and stuff.
We actually think we've seen one before around our house.
We live out in the country in Tennessee.
And probably this winter time, like late at night, we'd be outside, and I actually thought I saw one in our driveway, and my fiancé seen it too.
So kind of freaked us out.
art bell
I can imagine the two of you seeing it, I guess.
unidentified
Yeah, like weird stuff would start happening around and going on, you know, like trash cans all spilt over, but like, like we have like this huge trash can gate type thing, so it's really hard to get into.
Like no animal could get into it.
All kinds of stuff going on.
art bell
But the draconian did get in?
unidentified
Yeah.
art bell
You know, for some reason or another, I have in my mind that if a reptilian creature managed to come all the way to Earth from wherever, you know, light years, hundreds perhaps of light years away, it wouldn't have to be rummaging through trash cans for whatever it could find for sustenance or what have you.
But one never knows.
Perhaps it came slithering up from under the earth, a likely spot, I guess, for something with scales.
First time caller line, you are on the air.
Hello.
unidentified
Art Bell, several weeks ago in the Molten House with George Norrie, and you and I had the same thought about the chemtrails affecting the honeybees.
And I'm glad to see that you concur.
I wondered in the Idaho Observer, the article you were talking about, if they mentioned that they found barium in the chemtrails.
And believe it or not, I've been listening to you since I was about 10 years old, and I'm now 21 years old in college.
And this is my first time being able to speak to you, and it is an honor and a pleasure, sir.
art bell
Well, congratulations.
Now, you know that what I said about the honeybees and chemtrails is pure speculation.
That's all it is.
unidentified
On my behalf as well, obviously.
And so far, that's all we have.
But is it barium, which is, you know, rat poisoning, if I'm not mistaken?
art bell
I'm trying to recall, sir, and I'll have to get that story again.
Somebody will send it to me.
I'm not sure if barium was part of the sad little mixture that they came up with.
I mean, there were all kinds of horrible things in it.
Viruses and just human DNA was in there and all kinds of awful things.
Much worse.
So I'll try and get the list again and see if barium was on that list.
I don't recall.
It was a long and sad list.
Wildcard line, you're on the air.
Hello.
unidentified
Yes, sir.
Art.
How I are.
How are you?
I wish you'd best, sir.
Yeah, my name is Blake.
I'm calling out here at the Phoenix area.
And I just thought it was a tremendous coincidence that we have April Fool's Day, the same time the Iranians have a new year.
And the fact that Ahmadinejad seems to be on a fool's errand to develop nuclear bombs, which even if he didn't use it against the hated Great Satan and Little Satan, somebody else that had a particular agenda that would want to make it look like he did,
could wreak the entire annihilation of the Iranian people because he'd prompted a hostility towards us that made it look like he was the offer of all the damage that would be incurred.
And, you know, let me ask you a question.
art bell
Yes, sir.
If the United States comes to be in possession of information that the Iranians are indeed about to produce an atomic bomb or, you know, getting very close to it or whatever, are we, in your opinion, morally justified in bombing the hell out of their infrastructure so that they don't get an atomic bomb and then pass it on to somebody who would use it, which is probably how it would occur?
I mean, are we justified in warlike, in acts of war?
It would be an act of war, of course.
unidentified
Yeah, we wouldn't have to take it to that extreme.
What we would have to do is to see that there was a more intelligent regime that was in place there.
By and large, the Iranian people don't want any part of it, but unfortunately, we're faced with the dilemma, and we don't need an underhanded, underdealing of nuclear devices proliferating the free Western world and all the upset and cataclysm that could come about them delivering it clandestinely.
They don't need advanced missile systems or anything like that.
We've got to be aware of that.
We want to make sure that the people that have control of devices of such great energy outbursts, that they are responsible people, and that in turn they're not working their own agenda secretly behind our backs.
art bell
Okay, well, I'll take that as a yes, that you would say we should act.
And I suppose in our own self-defense, there may not be a whole lot of choice in the end if they do obtain something like that.
There's actually quite an interesting...
Unfortunately, not chaired by the government of Iran.
So my feeling is if they did become in possession of a weapon of that magnitude, they would get it to somebody who would use it against us.
And so based on that, even though it's the last thing in the world I want to see, I really do think we would almost have to act, or the Israelis would have to act, or the British, or somebody.
And it really kind of looks like we're headed in that direction.
I think the U.S. is beginning to mass some forces.
You know, this is according to a Russian report on the Iranian border.
And it wouldn't surprise me that we do something.
We'll see.
Amiz to the Rockies, you are on the air.
Good morning.
unidentified
Well, hey, Art, Gary in San Antonio.
Thanks for taking my call.
art bell
You're very welcome.
unidentified
I know you have a lot of Christians that listen in to Coast to Coast, so I'd like to set the record straight on something really important.
Last Sunday, a guy calls in to Coast to Coast and shouts something about the Antichrist would be killed by a sword wound to his head, and then said, Well, that's Jesus Christ.
The truth is, Jesus wasn't killed by a sword wound to his head, he was crucified to death.
art bell
Well, he was telling us that the Antichrist was Jesus.
Yeah, exactly.
unidentified
That's what he said.
But he also mentioned about a sword wound killing him to the head.
But Jesus was crucified, and a spear was run through his chest.
He wasn't hit over the head with a sword.
You know, I know George occasionally asks his guest who the Antichrist is.
The answer is, the Bible says he'll be revealed in the yet-to-be-built Jewish temple when he commits an abominable act of erecting an idol of himself, demanding everybody in the world take his mark in their forehead or their right hand.
But as for the spirit of Antichrist, which the Bible says is already at work in the world, the Bible says that that spirit can be identified by anyone who denies that Jesus is the Christ or denies that the Lord Jesus Christ came in the flesh, manifested in the flesh, and that that person, in essence, is denying it says both the Father and the Son.
So when Jesus said, I am the resurrection from the dead and I am the truth, if someone would deny the resurrection from the dead, that's who he says he is, then they are in fact denying who he is.
art bell
All right, I'm going to leave it there.
I don't want you to give me a name.
People really tend to get upset when you name them as the Antichrist, and I'm sure you were working up to that.
So they just get all upset.
And understandably so.
Usually it's a public figure or somebody like that.
But even at that, you know, it's not nice to name somebody as the Antichrist unless you know for sure.
And, of course, there is no way we can be positive.
Wow, Artline, you're on the air.
Hello.
unidentified
Yeah, hello, Art.
How are you doing?
art bell
I'm all right, sir.
unidentified
Hey, that star, this is Dave, by the way, probably a third-time caller.
And congratulations on Asia, by the way.
And that star that that gentleman was referring to, I'm pretty sure it's called Arcturus.
And it's 113 times more luminous than the sun.
It's a great big star.
It's approximately from us, it's about 36 light years away, and it's visible now near the moon.
But yeah, and it's a bright sucker, too.
So I just wanted to call you up and so you'd know, you know, just so you know, yeah, Venus is bright, you know, it's a close planet to us, but that star, there is a bright star up there, and it's Octurus, I'm pretty sure, because it's visible this time of year.
art bell
Well, it's actually, okay, if it's actually a star, as in a sun, we all know, I think most of us know, that what we, sorry, you know, we tend to refer to everything that shines brightly as a star.
And of course, that's not the case.
Venus, for example, is a planet.
A star would be a sun.
So in that strict context, that could be absolutely correct if it is Strictly that.
First time caller line, you're on the air.
Hello.
unidentified
Hello, Art.
art bell
Yes, sir.
unidentified
How are you?
I had a question regarding the human race coming from another planet.
art bell
Okay.
unidentified
And I heard from, I recently moved to Georgia and I met this interesting approach this a different way if you don't mind actually.
I've heard a few times, even the other night, someone talking about the possibility of the human race, or at least humans, coming to this Earth that we live on from another planet or another, well, yes, another planet.
But I've also heard variations in which someone told me that Caucasians were the only ones who came to this planet from some other planet.
And that African Americans are the original inhabitants of the Earth.
art bell
Okay, sir, you're on a cell phone that became unstable.
You know, I hate to avoid it.
I hate cell phones.
And I have one, by the way.
Nobody should be without one.
They really save lives.
But boy, I'll tell you what.
Using them to call in talk shows, I don't know.
But I realize it's easy and tempting and probably unavoidable.
But they have degraded the quality of audio on talk radio programs across the world.
Wildcard line, you're on the air.
Hello.
unidentified
Hi, this is Bill from RKO in Boston.
art bell
Yes, sir.
unidentified
Is this hot?
art bell
It is.
unidentified
Oh, my word.
My brother turned me on to you, and I love you very, very much.
And you sound so happy that you're back in the United States.
I was worried about you.
art bell
Well, thank you.
Listen, everybody has said that, and I still don't fully grasp.
I mean, I had a lot of fun in the Philippines.
I was really enjoying myself in Manila, but for some reason that I truly don't understand, there was this.
I had to have had thousands of emails, sir, saying, my God, thank God you're back in the United States.
unidentified
People feel safer.
I mean, were you in the Air Force at one time?
art bell
I was, yes.
unidentified
Yeah, I was in the Air Force for four years.
I was in Maine, and I was up there when they had the UFO thing, but I did not see nothing up there.
art bell
I see.
unidentified
But I have one little story for you.
art bell
Very quickly, we're at the end of the hour here.
unidentified
Okay.
I take pictures, and I took a picture of a tree in the Boston Common, and My stepson came over there and he goes, There's a man in that picture.
I blew it up to 16 by 20, and it was Lee Harvey Oswald with a gun.
Really?
art bell
I mean, that's almost that's like Elvis, you know, sweating, uh, sweating a stain of Elvis or something on your shirt.
But there he was, Lee Harvey Oswald.
You blow something up big enough, and you can nearly pick anything out, whether it's Elvis or Lee Harvey or whatever.
Coming up after the break, Major Ed Dames.
And you better prepare yourself.
In fact, I'll make my normal little warning announcement.
I'm Art Bell.
All right, here's my warning, everybody.
And I do have a warning for you.
Coming up is Major Ed Dames.
Now, listen to me closely.
Major Ed Dames is perhaps the world's foremost remote viewing teacher, and he is a remote viewer.
Now, the things that he sees tend to be a little or even a lot on the negative side for mankind, for the world.
And so if you are upset by hearing negative information, upset by hearing forecasts of doom and gloom, then you're going to want to tune out right now.
Just reach over and go click and turn me off.
And I'm actually very serious about that.
There are people who get very, very upset about this sort of thing.
Actually, Major Dames is the single most loved and hated guest that I have on the air.
And that's because of the kind of things that he talks about.
On the other hand, I really must tell you that quite a bit of what he's had to say has come true, particularly those things he's said about our ecology and what's happening.
Look at the bees.
Look at what's happening with the bees.
And yes, he will talk about the honeybees.
Tonight, the world's foremost remote viewing teacher, Edward A. Dames, major U.S. Army retired, is a decorated military intelligence officer and an original member of the U.S. Army Prototype Remote Viewing Training Program, which was run by the CIA.
He served as a training and operations officer for the Defense Intelligence Agency's Psychic Intelligence, or PSIINT, collection unit.
Currently serves as Executive Director for the Matrix Intelligence Agency, a private consulting group.
The technical consultant for the feature film Suspect Zero.
I wonder how many of you saw that.
If not, it's running on the, you know, on making the circuit right now on HBO and Showtime and such.
It was a Tom Cruise Paula Wagner production.
Ed coached Sir Ben Kingsley and played a role of an FBI remote viewing instructor as well in the movie.
Really was a damn good movie, actually.
Ed Ames, welcome back to the program.
Thank you, Art.
There you are.
Where do I find you this night, Ed?
ed dames
Four hours closer to Ukraine by air.
I'm near the Great Lakes.
art bell
That's right.
You are engaged to a Ukrainian gal, right?
ed dames
Correct.
art bell
Not yet married?
ed dames
Not yet.
art bell
When does that happen?
ed dames
Probably October.
art bell
October.
All right.
So actually being up there does get you that much closer.
Are you talking about over-the-pole flights to get to Ukraine?
ed dames
Negative.
Through usually Warsaw or Kiev from Detroit.
art bell
All right.
Well, anyway, it's always great having you back.
And I wasn't kidding about the loved and hated part.
Boy, there really are people who do not like the bearer of bad news, which, of course, you are.
ed dames
You know, I never told you this, but there's been times in my military career where I've met violence on the part of commanders.
But the worst incident was a Defense Nuclear Agency general, whose name I will not mention, when I brought up a very serious problem to him, that he was already under stress, two-star general, and committed suicide.
unidentified
So I, yeah.
art bell
Ed, you know, let me hit you with this because it's the one thing that I've never been able to rationalize in my mind.
I know that you and others who did what you did, well, you've always said that, A, without any shadow of any doubt, remote viewing works.
Yes?
unidentified
Correct.
Okay.
art bell
You can identify things, find people, find hidden bombs, find lost children.
In other words, remotely find things that would be dangerous to the United States security, national security.
Correct?
ed dames
With a lot of work, yes.
Correct.
unidentified
Yeah.
art bell
With a lot of work, but a lot of things are a lot of work.
So you could find things that would threaten our life and our security, and yet the program ended because it embarrassed people.
So that doesn't make sense to me.
It never has.
If, on the one hand, it works and it would protect life and property and our nation, it wouldn't end just because somebody's embarrassed.
ed dames
It wasn't simple embarrassment.
As I've mentioned before, we were sort of the red light district of, I mean, people in government and in the military were loath to be seen associating with us in the light of day.
art bell
Yeah, maybe so, Ed.
But even if it's complex embarrassment, if it works, it would still be going on.
And you will tell me it's not, right?
Or to the best of your knowledge, it is not?
ed dames
It is not.
not in this country, no.
art bell
All right, Ed.
We're going to take a quick break, and when we come back, we'll dive in.
Again, a warning, everybody.
If you don't like hearing negative news, now would be the time to tune out.
We'll be right back.
All right, Lynn in St. Paul, Minnesota, kind of up there in that part of the world, Ed, sends the following.
Hey, there's an article in Science Magazine, page 1786, 30 March 2007, headline, deadly wheat fungus threatens world bread baskets.
You said something about something like that, didn't you, Ed?
ed dames
Let's see.
Clavicets paporia.
Yes, a mutation on the clavicets mold will do worldwide damage to grasses, all grasses, not just wheat.
Looking ahead, that's one of the things that we do in over-the-horizon radar.
art bell
I know.
I know, I know.
The things you say are really terrifying.
Many of them really terrifying.
And many of them, unfortunately, have really started to become true.
Now, you also forecast a very scary thing about frogs, right?
ed dames
Correct.
art bell
It happened.
Right?
It happened.
All right, now we've got this honeybee.
I have never had so many emails as I've had in the last few days about the colony collapse of honeybees.
Honeybees are not just dying.
In fact, we don't know what the hell's happening to them.
They're just flat disappearing, no little bee bodies.
The honeybees across the country, now even into the last few states that didn't have the problem, they're now having the problem all across America.
The honeybees are just flat gone.
Somebody called on the show the other day, Ed, and they said it's like they're being raptured.
ed dames
They'll be extinct very soon, Art.
Very soon indeed.
art bell
They'll be extinct?
ed dames
Very soon.
art bell
Can you reach back and recall what you said how many years ago now about honeybees?
ed dames
There was a problem in New Zealand with flowers changing color, and you asked me about that.
And I used remote viewing to look into the source of that.
And what was happening is that the high levels of UV radiation because of ozone loss were causing the...
And the flowers were having to adapt to these high levels of UV in an attempt for Mother Nature to lure back the bees.
I'll get into that systematically in a moment, but it was because of intense UV radiation, UVB, shortwave UVB was blinding the bees, essentially.
They couldn't find it.
And we'll be talking a lot about that momentarily.
art bell
All right.
Well, the people who dislike you, Ed, consistently point out what they think that you have gotten wrong.
Now, you've talked, of course, a great deal about the sun.
Now, I've really got to point out to my audience that the scientists lately, and I'm talking about the ones that NASA, you know, the very best we can respect, are saying that we are about to have, between now and 2012, we're about to have the biggest, strongest monster of a sun cycle that anybody's ever seen, potentially bigger than anything ever seen by man.
Not that we've been around on Earth that long, but they're saying we're going to have giant flares, Ed.
Now, you said a thing or two about sun, too, right?
ed dames
Oh, I did.
And I don't want you to construe anything I say tonight as reflecting any promise of hope because we're going down.
We're facing a barren planet in about 50 years.
art bell
50 years.
ed dames
And that's the long and the short of it.
We are going down.
It's not just ecocide.
It's outside forces as well.
Geophysical forces have nothing to do with man-made causes.
But we are going down.
art bell
I've seen stories saying that in 50 years, since you mentioned that figure, without some major change, all the fish in the ocean will be dead.
unidentified
All the fish in the ocean will be dead in 50 years.
ed dames
There's a reason for that that I'll get into this evening.
art bell
So a lot of what you've said in past years that sounded like the most horrific science fiction, whether people like it or not, is beginning to manifest itself now.
ed dames
Well, let me say that just there's one nice thing I have to say tonight about remote viewing, and it has nothing to do with the condition.
It's something of being able to see at a distance.
And that is that 10 and a half years ago on your program, I said that my team had discovered seas on Titan, the largest moon of Saturn, that it had vast seas.
And just this month, the Cassini mission photographed those seas through the clouds of methane.
So that was a nice validation of work.
But you need the technology to confirm it, to validate it.
And it took 10 years to get the feedback.
art bell
Well, yeah, and you also need time.
And a lot of the things that you said, again, sounding like they were out of a really bad science fiction novel of some sort or a horror novel of some sort, are manifesting themselves now, actually beginning to come true.
With scientists saying, yes, in this period of time, expect to see all the fish die, expect to see weather changes that will affect billions and billions of people.
And now the honeybees and the frogs and all the rest of it is beginning to coalesce.
And I understand that it scares people, and it damn well ought to scare people.
Is there anything we can do?
And then here comes the sun, that stuff.
Is there anything we can do to head off any of this?
Nobody wants to see a barren planet in 50 years in.
ed dames
No, there's nothing we can do to head it off.
The only thing that people can do to survive and have any quality of life is to start thinking about self-contained habitats or living underground and weather this storm until the planet re-establishes equilibrium.
That's about all there is.
But we're not going to be able to stop or delay the degradation of the ozone layer and other things.
I think we should start talking about the bees, though.
The bees are symptomatic of something that's much, much more serious.
Even though without bees, we stand to lose billions and billions of dollars in agriculture and pollinization problems because of pollinization problems.
But it's still, it's just the tip of an iceberg I'd like to talk about.
art bell
All right, let's talk bees.
Everybody wants to know about the bees.
Since the colony collapse stories began, Ed, have you done any additional remote viewing or are you just simply able to fill us in based on what you knew prior?
ed dames
No, no, I've turned it into a project and completed the project.
So I'll give you the full results this evening.
art bell
Lay it on us.
ed dames
Okay.
One of the hypotheses that has been put forward about what may be happening to the bees in the colonies when they're opened back up and the bees are dead is that they're malnourished.
That is in fact correct.
The bees have starved to death.
And the reason they're starving to death is the following.
I'll try not to get too technical here, okay?
unidentified
Sure.
ed dames
All right.
The bee, about one-third of the bees' vision is in the ultraviolet.
The other, the colored part of the vision and the rest of the vision discerns form and motion.
They can see other bees and it can determine whether something is a tree or an animal or whatever.
But one-third, one-third of the cells in the bees' complex eyes are dedicated to the ultraviolet spectrum.
Two-thirds of those cells are devoted to finding flowers and to getting to the center of the flower where the nectar is.
The other one-third of the UV receptors are for navigation when the sun is not visible in the sky.
So they use the polarized ultraviolet light that comes through the clouds to navigate.
Okay, so a full one-third of the vision of the bee is dedicated to UV.
The bees are getting a double whammy.
I'll tell you about the first one first.
The first one first is that the UV levels, the ultraviolet levels because of ozone depletion are so heavy worldwide that the bees are being blinded and they cannot find flowers.
And when they do land on a flower because they detected it using olfactory mechanisms, their antenna can smell fragrances and things like that.
They still have to see the center of the flower using UV reflection.
So they waste time.
It's difficult to find the flower.
And it's difficult to navigate because they're blinded in the UV range.
So if they're lucky enough to find the flower, then they have to find the nectar, which requires UV vision.
Okay?
art bell
Sure.
ed dames
And they're blind.
And bees don't have sunglasses and they're in the sun all day long.
So they have a problem navigating to the flower and a problem finding flowers and a problem finding the nectar in the flower.
That's one of the damn dams.
The other one is this.
The heavy ultraviolet radiation as a result of this metastasis that's happening in the ozone layer is degrading the quality of pollen in all flowers.
It's degrading the quality of pollen.
And the pollen is where the bees get their protein so they can overwinter in the hives.
So when the hives are opened back up, what you're finding is dead bees because they starved to death.
One, they've expended so much energy for so little nectar.
And because they don't have enough protein to make it through the winter, all because of these increased levels of ultraviolet radiation, which are causing many, many other problems, not just with bees.
art bell
Okay.
I had heard, Ed, that they had virtually disappeared, that there weren't that many bee bodies, that most of them were just sort of almost like a caller said, they were raptured or something, just sort of gone.
ed dames
Well, if you can't navigate to the flowers, then you can't navigate back to your hive either.
Because, again, they're depending upon polarized UV to navigate.
And because the UV is so strong, it would be like you out hunting where the sun is so strong and you have no sunglasses, and you try to draw a bead on your prey, but you can't see it because your eyes are watering and the sun's so bright.
You can't hunt and you can't bring food home.
art bell
Okay, so this is really, you see this as just sort of a first major sign of what's coming.
ed dames
Actually, no, it was frogs.
The frogs were the first one years ago.
We talked about this.
art bell
Oh, yeah.
ed dames
We looked into why the frogs were dying, and it was because in the neontanate stage, when frogs lay their eggs in ponds, the eggs can't go anywhere.
They can't hide in the shade or whatever.
They're exposed to very, very increasingly greater levels of UVB, of ultraviolet radiation.
And that is what was causing the mutations.
And now it's even worse.
The ozone layer this last winter was the largest in history.
And what scientists are not realizing is that not only is the ozone hole in the southern hemisphere larger, but the metastasis that's going on in the stratosphere is even greater.
I did a contract once for the Human Potential Foundation, sponsored by Lawrence Rockefeller, called, let's see, Atmospheric Ozone Depletion, Projected Consequences and Remedial Technologies.
And in that contract, my remote viewing team looked out to see that there were no remedial technologies, that this problem was not going to be solved.
It would only get worse until the point that's reached where we would have a barren planet because the increased UV also affects plants.
And it's doing so now.
art bell
Well, all right.
There's a report coming out next week, and I've got kind of a preview of that report saying that with the increasing temperatures, with all the changes that are occurring in ecology, About 3.2 billion people, if nothing is done, are going to be affected.
Now, that's half the people on Earth at least are going to be affected.
They're not going to be able to get water.
Food is going to get scarce.
And he goes on to say at the end, this Harvard University Oceanographer James McCarthy, that the worst is not going to happen, he says, because we can't be that stupid.
He says, not that I think the projections aren't that good.
They are good.
But because we just can't be that stupid.
ed dames
And you're saying, like Daryl Hanna said in Blade Runner, then we're stupid and we're going to die.
art bell
And on that note, we're going to take a break from the high desert and the great American Southwest.
I'm Art Bell.
Here I am.
Listen, one of the reasons I continue to have Ed Dames on is because about a lot of the larger, scarier things he's had to say, he's been right.
And the signs are all around us of his being right on a whole bunch of different major predictions.
Certainly one of them, the sun.
Remember the big flare we had?
Scientists said it was so big, their instruments, their satellite measuring instruments all pegged out.
Then they started saying, well, that flare was so big, it might have been an X-48 or bigger, so big, we don't even know how big it really was.
And if it had been pointed at Earth, it would have been an event on the surface of the Earth.
And that's with the current configuration of our atmosphere, which is quickly deteriorating.
So over the next X number of years, if something really major, no pun intended, occurs on the sun, it could indeed be a surface event.
Living underground?
I don't know.
Do I want to live, and if my life depends on living underground, do I really want to make that choice?
I'm not at all sure about that.
We'll be right back.
Let me tell you something.
If in, let's say, the year 1958, the year 1960, we had been talking about the kinds of things that we're not talking about tonight, just the kinds of things that the mainstream press is now talking about,
all the fish in the sea being dead, the collapse of honeybees nationwide, just gone, or major eruptions from the sun so large nobody could have imagined or even guessed at, or the current or the North Pole melting, due to become a sea shortly, or all of these other things that are going on.
If we'd talked about that in 58 or 60, it would have been laughed at.
It would have been a horror movie.
But now it's mainstream science talking about all of these things.
And I assure you, had we talked about the men, it would have been an absolute horror movie.
It would have been laughed at.
Ed, welcome back.
ed dames
Thank you.
art bell
So, you know, what I just said really is true.
If we'd said these things in 58 or 60, way back then, it would have been looked at and laughed at, and it just would have been, you know, some horror movie.
People couldn't even imagine it.
And here we are in our lifetimes, not Ed Dame saying it now, but the scientists are saying it, and it's upsetting people, and I'm one of them.
So in 50 years, Ed, you're saying that what we're seeing now is nothing compared to what is going to be then, and the only way to survive what's going to happen then is going to be underground.
ed dames
Or to be, what we need is habitats.
On your first show, 10 and a half years ago, I said that as a result of that project that my team did with regards to ozone depletion, we were looking at hemispherical domes that were first used to grow plants because we're not going to be,
because of the vicissitudes of geophysics and the weather, no more seasons, et cetera, and the ultraviolet problem that stresses the immune system of plants and mammals tremendously, we're just not going to be able to grow food crops the way we used to grow them.
So they're going to have to be put in sealed environments, either underground or in domed arenas, that will become the template for human habitats.
Humans will start to migrate into these crop production facilities.
But that stuff has to mature in terms of technology, and there's not going to be enough room for everybody.
So you can imagine how many people, after the plankton start to die in the ocean, which is going to be quite soon, you can imagine how many people on Earth are not going to survive.
art bell
If the plankton dies, what's the chain?
What happens?
ed dames
Plankton produces most of the oxygen that we breathe.
art bell
That really is true, isn't it?
People have said trees convert to oxygen, right?
To some degree.
ed dames
That's correct.
But plankton, predominantly plankton.
And the plankton, if they're dying, because plankton can only take so much, against everything.
Life did not form on Earth until the ozone layer formed, two and a half billion years ago.
Life was not possible because the high energy photons break amino acids and kept any potential peptide bonds.
They're broken.
So until we had that protective layer, which is very thin, it's not thick, it's very thin, until we had that established life as we know it on Earth, could really not develop, on the surface of the Earth, I mean.
art bell
I'm not sure I would want to live underground, Ed.
ed dames
It wouldn't be forever.
unidentified
Well, for how long?
ed dames
Oh, I don't know.
Possibly a few decades or more.
art bell
A few decades or more.
Neither one of us has that many decades left.
You're the one who sees all of this and has predicted all of this, and yet off you go eventually to Ukraine to begin a life there in an area, by the way, where You're seeing all kinds of nuclear problems directly ahead in Russia, right?
ed dames
Oh, terrible pollution, radioactive pollution, yes.
But I mean, we still have life ahead of us.
And while we have it, quality of life is important.
You know, any degree of joy or happiness that we can extract is worth its weight in gold.
And that's not selfish or not altruistic.
I mean, it's still a quality of life issue, regardless of what's up ahead or what's happening now for you and I both.
art bell
By what year would you say that people will have to be either in domes or underground?
I know that timelines are the toughest part of remote viewing.
ed dames
I'd say a full 40 to 50 years in order to actually survive, probably 40 to 50 years.
But prior to that, we're going to lose a lot of our population.
The planet's probably overpopulated now.
So that will mitigate some of the food problems.
art bell
Hey, there's a picture right now on CoastCoastAM.com.
And that picture, you might you'll do very well, folks, to go up there, take a look at it.
It's the Earth, and it shows the radiation pattern following the Chernobyl accident here on Earth.
Go ahead and blow it up, click on it, blow it up, and take a look at what happened after Chernobyl and how much of the Earth was affected.
And, of course, that'll go on and on and on and on for our lifetimes and much, much more.
But Ed is saying now that a brewing nuclear reactor incident in Russia is ahead of us.
You want to tell us about that, Ed?
ed dames
Well, what we've been doing in the past decade, particularly as a result of your listenership and your show, is looking very far ahead at some of the worst things that we see, the worst disasters, the worst environmental catastrophes, geophysical catastrophes and everything.
And we've been reporting those to the people in media.
But things are happening so rapidly now.
There's such a confluence of big things that it's better to actually look at the next up disaster, the next danger ahead, and then the next one, the next one, to have a radar screen that just reports the blips that appear on the local screen.
In other words, within a month or so or a couple of months.
And that allows people to prepare mentally and perhaps physically, geographically, to take steps to protect themselves.
So the next blip that we're seeing, and what we're doing now, is we're going into what we call the matrix, the global mind.
It's not the collective unconscious.
It's bigger than that.
There's only one mind, and we're all plugged into it.
We have consciousness, but each of our consciousness is a part of this mind.
We go into that mind and we look ahead.
And so the next thing up, and it's adjudicated by mind, is an accident, an incident, a release of radioactivity, which is the greatest man-made environmental disaster of all, really, when you think of it.
I mean, Chernobyl released 30 to 40 times the amount of radiation, radioactive thaw, that all the bombs did in World War II in Japan.
That's a lot of radiation, and I won't go into the casualties that are still being produced by Chernobyl.
It took 15 years to cap that thing, the reactor that exploded.
I live in Ukraine, not very far from Chernobyl.
But the fallout, the thyroid cancers were in Belarus, which was 90 miles away.
And they're still experiencing thyroid cancers.
And the long-term radiation effects are cumulative.
I won't go into radiation physics, but you know what I mean.
art bell
Do you have any idea?
The circumfagus that is over that reactor is said to be rather unstable.
I think 60 Minutes did a big piece on it, and it's not stable.
Or have they now stabilized it?
ed dames
There's not enough money to stabilize it, too.
And to make matters worse, what Russia is doing is it's doing something terrible.
One thing, it's got all this valuable natural gas that it's selling to Europe and to the rest of the world.
While at the same time, it's not going to use that gas for themselves because they're making too much money on it.
What they're doing is taking a lot of their old reactors, and this is actually illegal.
It's against Russian law, but they're doing it anyway.
They're extending the lifespan of those Chernobyl-like reactors, which cannot safely be extended.
So you're going to have some more accidents.
If you look at the classified reports, you can't look at the classified reports, obviously, but if you knew about them, there have been hundreds and hundreds of accidents or releases of radiation on the part of the Russians, on part of Russian reactors, as opposed to Western reactors are very safe.
They're very safe.
art bell
How many Chernobyl-like reactors remain in service?
Do you know?
ed dames
Six.
And they are being renovated and extended another 15 years, which is against Russian law, but Putin said go ahead and do it.
And some of the safety, there's no safety measures.
They say that there are, but there aren't.
These are graphite core reactors, like the reactor at Chernobyl, Reactor 1.
And they cannot be safely renovated.
And nuclear physicists know this, but the Russians don't care because it's cheap.
Well, if it were a safe reactor, it would be clean energy.
But it's cheap, and they make all the money off of gas because – Because now the Western world is saying, well, CO2 emissions are causing global warming.
It's time to rev back up.
Even some of the green supporters are saying maybe we should re-look at nuclear reactors.
And indeed, much of the Western World is starting to rethink and redesign reactors.
And now uranium is going through the roof.
It's six times more expensive than it was a few years ago, almost $100 a pound.
People are gearing up for uranium.
The demand for uranium is huge because of global warming.
So we're backing ourselves into a corner here.
At the same time, scientists are not looking straight up at this thinning ozone layer, which is really going to hit us harder than global warming, much harder.
art bell
With regard to the nuclear accident that you see coming fairly soon, I guess I would like to know, of course, how soon everybody would.
But another major accident with respect to what happened at Chernobyl, how big?
ed dames
No, we don't know how big it is.
What we could do with another four, probably three weeks' worth of work, is actually pinpoint the actual reactor itself.
But that wouldn't do anything to stop the event because the Russians wouldn't listen to us.
Right now, we know that the reactor is within a grid of east 40 degrees, to east 45 degrees, north 55 degrees to north, 60 degrees.
Within that grid, there are three reactors.
It would take us about another three weeks using remote viewing geofix work, which is very accurate.
We're using it to find more gold in the Prescott, Arizona area now.
We use the same techniques to home in on the actual reactor that will release the radioactivity.
And at this juncture, we don't know how big it will be, but we know it will be significant enough to be reported.
art bell
All right.
Well, I guess we all want to know how big, and we certainly all want to know which one, if it's possible to know.
And then, of course, maybe there's a way, Ed.
By the way, let me say this.
Everybody, not everybody, but a lot of people think that remote viewing is like psychic work.
In other words, they will fast blast me or send me an email and say, give Ed a test during a break.
Have him remote view this or that.
Well, remote viewing does not work that way.
And I really don't want to have to go back and explain remote viewing, but it's done by a team of people almost always now in Ed's case, right, Ed?
ed dames
No, people, we've trained so many thousands of students.
They're trained to solve a problem by themselves with no help.
When you work as a team, you can solve a problem faster.
That's the long and the short of it.
art bell
And more accurately.
ed dames
Far more accurately, far faster, because you can eliminate the error rates.
It's not like the Tom Cruise movie.
What was that?
art bell
Yeah, yeah.
But what I'm trying to say is, Ed, the point I was trying to make is you can't say, hey, Ed Dames, during this next break, take a look at this or that and report back to us very quickly and give us an answer.
You cannot do that.
ed dames
No, no, we're not psychics.
We avail ourselves of the same faculty that psychics use, but we do this very, very systematically and very, very rigorously.
That's how we train.
And that's what I do for half of my living.
art bell
That frustrates Americans.
They want instant answers, you know.
ed dames
Oh, yeah.
In fact, I don't know if you've ever heard the term associative remote viewing, ARV.
It's a shortcut that people try to take.
I have a workshop next month in Las Vegas.
In fact, you're welcome to drop in and see how people off the streets learn this.
And we use the techniques in class to do sports betting.
We can identify a winning team of a number.
And the way we do that is to identify the winning teams of a game that's going to be played, the winning team's home city's most unique feature.
And then people sketch that, draw it, and describe it, and then they go down and bet on that game.
Well, there's shortcuts to do that, but the shortcuts are iffy, and they don't work.
However, Americans like the easy way out.
So it's not a sure thing.
art bell
Well, the other thing that people, of course, say is, well, if you can remote view, then remote view a lottery number.
And you're claiming, or you have claimed on this program, and you said you've documented on your website that you've done exactly that, remote viewed a winning lottery number, and people have made a lot of money doing that.
ed dames
Well, you can go over to my forum where I teach.
I teach advanced methods for free.
I have basic courses of instructions that people pay tuition for, whether it's DVD or whether it's workshop.
But I teach all the advanced methods myself every day in this forum.
In that forum, you can see all the winning lottery tickets, and then you can see the sports betting parleys where my team has won many thousands of tens of thousands, or in one case, $100,000 on sports parleys in Vegas.
But that stuff gets boring.
It's a lot more fun to find gold in the field or to find a meteorite or a dinosaur skeleton that nobody has ever found using our work.
That's fun.
art bell
Where is my gold?
ed dames
You'll get it?
We already have what we did was we used significant gold as a search term, and now we have two gold mines.
We went into the gold mining business because we had to change the actual search term.
Remote viewing, you have to specify.
We didn't specify gold coins.
We said significant gold in a particular area.
So now we have two sites in Arizona that we actually have stakes on with a lot of gold in the soil.
So we're working, what we did was change the search term to gold coins.
Then we can go after stagecoach robberies and get a strong box.
Then I'll bring you your gold, especially since you're back in the States.
art bell
That's right.
I mean, I am here, so I expect to look out one day and see Ed Dames at my gate with something shiny.
ed dames
Roger that.
art bell
All right.
Timeline-wise on this Russian accident, nuclear accident, any you want to stick your neck out on a time?
ed dames
Yeah, my my uh colleagues and uh my marketing folks would not like me to do this, but I'm gonna do it.
I would say uh a month to two months outside.
Outside two months.
art bell
God, that is sticking your neck out.
That's very, very soon.
Outside would be two months.
ed dames
Yeah, I'd say no more than two months.
art bell
And you're not at all concerned going to Ukraine?
ed dames
I am concerned, but, you know, life is life.
You play the game and you take your chances.
art bell
Yeah, that's right.
Life is a constant gamble, isn't it?
All right.
Well, stay right where you are.
Major Ed Dames is my guest.
Remote viewing is what we're talking about, and this is pretty scary stuff.
So be warned.
From the high desert, I'm Art Bell.
Here I am indeed.
My guest is Major Ed Dames.
A very good question would be why other remote viewers, and there certainly are other remote viewers, ones that were in the program, same ones that were in the program with Ed, and when you talk to them, they don't say anything about some of these incredible disasters, many that Ed has actually called, some that have not yet occurred, but they don't say a word about it.
And they're all remote viewers.
And the question is, surely they see these things as they look outward.
Why are they not saying anything?
We'll be right back.
Now, Ed, I know you've got to be looking for some things to see them.
In other words, you've got to pick a target.
But some of these things that you're talking about, out, say, 50 years or so, are so profound.
I mean, people living underground or under glass domes or whatever it is they'll do to survive in the rest of the earth, half of humanity or more gone.
These kinds of things are so profound that the other remote viewers couldn't help but bump into them one way or the other.
So either they're not talking about it or they're not seeing it and only you are and your team.
Or how do you account for that?
ed dames
They're not looking, Art.
They're not looking.
Number one, they're 15 years behind the protocols at least 15 years.
They worked for me in the military and they worked for me in a civilian corporation.
And when I left them, they stopped working and they started writing books.
So they're not looking out at anything that could be a danger.
They're busy writing books, literally.
art bell
Yeah, but if you looked out for anything else, I mean, anything else at all, you'd see this.
I mean, no matter what you looked out out 40 or 50 years, you couldn't help.
ed dames
I am telling you that the only time we looked in the military unit is when I, as The training officer gave blind targets.
That means that the viewers did not know what the target was, to the viewers as training targets.
That's how we discovered all of the very, very terrible things over the horizon.
But that was because I forced the issue.
And I did that under the rubric of advanced training at your tax dollars, taxpayers' expense.
But the rest of the viewers, they were not interested in looking over the horizon at all, and so they didn't.
So they're not going to pick up anything because they're not looking that way.
And I'm serious about that.
art bell
Okay.
ed dames
But they wrote books.
They're busy writing lots of books.
art bell
Oh, sure.
Sure they are.
And I can't really blame them for that.
unidentified
No.
ed dames
People are on my case all the time to write a book.
I tell them, I don't have time.
I teach.
art bell
Yeah, you know, it's really true.
You haven't written a book yet, have you?
ed dames
No, I'm not going to.
I take hits for that.
People want me to write a book, but I have to take time off from work.
My work is to look over the horizon and see where are the bad guys, where's the bad stuff, that kind of thing.
And I teach.
And teaching is important because I'm not going to be around forever, and I may want to retire someday.
I have thousands of students who are becoming very good.
In fact, MUFON Mutual UFO Network passed one of their really big conundrums to a bunch of my students, and the students solved it themselves without my help.
I'm very proud of them for that.
This was an alleged UFO incident over Lake Michigan many years ago.
art bell
Oh, yes.
ed dames
The Kinross incident.
And then my students solved that for the mutual UFO network, and MUFON was very, very happy.
These were my students that did that, so I'm proud of them.
art bell
You know, really, Ed, I think that anybody who's been listening to you now for years, in the early years of the dire predictions you made, there was really almost no hint.
But if you reflect now on those things that you said, and you reflect on today's news and today's science, the signs are all around us that they're undeniable now, that these things are upon us, or enough of it is now upon us to make what you're saying, unfortunately, sound legitimate.
ed dames
Well, this stuff's coming home to roost.
And we still, even though we have location techniques now, which we did not have in the military days, we could be given a geographic coordinate and our minds could go right there without any problem whatsoever.
We could not do it the other way around, the resection problem.
If we found, let's say, a stolen nuclear weapon or whatever, somebody missing cat, we could be immediately on the target.
There's no problem with mind finding the target.
But consciousness could not determine where the target was in terms of latitude and longitude.
We couldn't do it the other way around.
Now we solve that problem, but it took 25 years to do it.
But we still have not been able.
The big bugbear now is time.
We're still trying to work that out, how to pinpoint something in time as well as space.
art bell
Right.
Ed, with respect to terrorism, since 9-11, it has been strangely quiet.
It's kind of like, I don't know, the guys at the CIA and all the other lettered agencies either have been doing their job very well or something's on the horizon that we don't see coming.
Have you looked at terrorism and where the next event will likely occur, or is it eclipsed by all the rest of this?
ed dames
It's eclipsed by all the rest of this.
We actually, we've looked out on using this, our search terms, we're looking ahead.
And specifically for the sum of all fears type of things, in fact, I have a project called Firefly.
And that code word is a name for the project, but we're looking for nuclear weapons and dirty bombs, those kinds of things like that.
That idea has indeed been eclipsed by geophysical events and incidents.
Which, I mean, some people could say it's a good thing, but 601 half doesn't the other.
It reminds me of the Gary Larson cartoon where the goldfish are standing outside their bowl and their house is on fire inside the bowl.
And the comment is, well, that was close, but we're equally screwed.
art bell
Yeah, isn't there something that could come along, Ed, that would change all of this?
What you see ahead as inevitable in the next 40 or 50 years, it seems like if man suddenly woke up, if there was some great realization, and it seems as though they're going to have to do it pretty soon, this is story after story after story.
These are world-class events that are beginning to happen all around us.
How can we ignore them, and for how much longer can we ignore them?
Can we be that stupid?
I guess.
ed dames
Because there's no we, Art.
There's no we.
We doesn't exist on this planet.
We're too divisive.
The Montreal Agreement on the ozone layer was supposed to.
Yeah, I mean, if that really was implemented and the world was united as one, we could stop the production of CFCs and the destruction of the ozone atmosphere.
But it's not going to happen.
Nor is, I mean, I think you and I both agree it's not going to happen.
unidentified
Period.
art bell
Certainly, I would agree that it is not happening.
I don't know about that it will not happen.
The scientists from Harvard could be right.
We may not be that soon, but eventually there may be a sudden realization, even here in the West, and we seem to be lagging behind the rest of the world, incredibly, on this issue.
We could wake up all of a sudden.
There could be a change of administrations in Washington.
That's inevitably going to occur.
And there could be an entire new direction.
ed dames
Not going to happen.
art bell
I mean, it's not all in stone, is it?
ed dames
I say it is.
I say it is.
We would not be seeing it if it were not in stone.
That's one thing we've learned in this business.
If we're seeing something in the future, it's the same thing as the prophets of old.
They were looking 3,000 years ahead and could see the same thing we're seeing.
So the events were that big in terms of mankind that it was visible 3,000 years in the past.
We're seeing the same thing.
Only we can put it into contemporary vernacular.
And the prophets of old could not do that.
Maybe we can qualify it.
art bell
Yeah, maybe you could give the audience some sense of how you remote view something as big as, for example, the kill shot.
This is something from the sun that will be so big in the next one, between now and 2012, whenever it's going to happen.
It's going to be so big that it's going to literally fry the earth.
It's going to do that.
So, I mean, how do you come up with that, Ed?
And is there any room for error?
ed dames
Well, yeah, there's plenty of room for error on something that big.
And we have made mistakes before in terms of trying to, first of all, when we first, we did not know, we were looking at future catastrophes on Earth, global catastrophes, the next catastrophe, those kind of things.
And we were describing something that was geophysical in nature, and we didn't know if it was at the time a meteorite or a gamma-ray burster from another star, something like that.
It took a long time to ascertain that it was our sun and what was going on with our sun.
We thought it was a single flare at first.
And then we realized, no, it's a series of flares.
That just takes a lot of work.
And we're very specific in terms of targeting these days and times.
But for instance, let's say we're looking for a particular, let's say we're looking for Osama bin Laden's present location.
First we have to determine whether or not Osama bin Laden is alive, and then we have to go for the location.
That's two different targets.
Him and the location are two different targets.
So we teach our students how to actually target.
We call this in a business queuing.
And that's pretty easy compared to trying to suss out these big, huge events, geophysical in nature, when we ourselves are not geophysicists.
We're trained observers.
unidentified
All right.
art bell
Well, I guess that's what I'm asking.
In other words, for example, with respect to the killshot, how do you actually come up with that, Ed?
Do you see a singed Earth?
Do you see a sun erupting?
Do you see things physically affected on the Earth?
Do you get pictures that people draw of things physically affected?
How do you come up with the whole thing?
ed dames
Yes, we have to use a search term.
In this case, it would be something like it would be open-ended.
Earth, and we qualify that with future catastrophes.
Okay?
And we allow the global mind to adjudicate that search term.
So we come up with a list after a couple of weeks of things that are happening in the future, at the undetermined future.
Again, where time is a problem for us.
And then we look to see what the most common frequent event is produced by a number of viewers or by a single viewer working a number of sessions.
In this case, specifically, it turns out that we're sketching what appears to be a large space body with plasma-like vectors coming out of it directed toward our own planet.
So we know that the planet is Earth because that's part of the cue.
That's part of the search term, like an internet search term.
Now we have to determine two things.
What is this other sphere?
What is that?
Is it the Klingons attacking us?
Is it a star in another solar system?
Is it Neptune or whatever?
And then what is this stuff that's emanating from it coming towards Earth and causing all this damage?
Because that's the other thing that we look at.
What's this event actually doing on Earth?
So it becomes a very big project.
And then we're still, even after we finish all the detail work, we still don't know how far in the future we're looking at.
And that becomes a problem in and of itself.
art bell
Right.
Right.
And you're admitting that still is a bit of a problem.
In other words, the timelines.
ed dames
Yes, it is.
Yes, it is.
But we can use the word next, rather than future catastrophes, we can use the search term next catastrophe, next global catastrophe, and that will give us things like a broken reactor that's releasing fallout or something like that.
The term catastrophe is adjudicated by the global mind.
We don't know what the definition in the global mind of catastrophe is.
So we have to experiment with those kinds of things.
art bell
Okay, well, with respect to the kill shot, what precedes it?
If you're using the next term, what precedes it?
ed dames
When we worked that, the nearest preceding event, in other words, the harbinger of the kill shot, was a space shuttle being forced to the ground.
art bell
Oh, yes.
And was that – In other words, you thought at one point that a shuttle mission, which we discussed here on the show, was going to be forced to the ground.
That one was not, right?
ed dames
A shuttle mission being forced to the ground by a meteor shower.
Right.
That has not happened.
However, in the same vein, in terms of what I term the kill shot, that's not the term we use in the matrix search term, we knew that there would be a very large preceding solar flare that I called a shot across the bow.
And then two weeks prior to that happening on your show, I said, hey, it's coming.
It's coming.
And then that's when a huge flare happened.
You actually.
art bell
It happened indeed.
It sure did.
And you confirmed that was the shot across the bow.
Now, the following event, and this event that we're waiting for, the shuttle being forced to the ground by a meteor shower, is still ahead of us somewhere, right?
ed dames
Correct.
unidentified
Correct.
ed dames
As far as we're concerned, that's correct.
art bell
So you really haven't...
Can you...
ed dames
I think the first one I ever made, well, I have to go back to the military unit where I was operations and training officer, the only one who wore the dual hat in the history of the unit.
One of the first errors I made, actually it wasn't, it was during my, when I formed a company, a civilian company, we were hired by a large automobile company to look at what might happen in the Mideast and Desert Shield was about to happen.
They wanted to know what would happen because for every dollar that a barrel of oil goes up, they would lose some god-off 100,000 units of sales or something like that.
So we were looking at sketching mushroom clouds, and I made the mistaken analysis of thinking that those were tactical nuclear weapons when in fact they were fuel air explosives that produce a similar symmetry.
It looks like it is a mushroom cloud when you drop a fuel air explosive, a daisy cutter on something.
So that was one of my first analytical mistakes on an actual report to a customer.
So that happens.
art bell
All right.
What about things that you've predicted on air, things that you've done on the program?
What would you consider errors?
ed dames
I think...
I think the short notice on Claviceps proporea, the royal fungus, saying that that would infect Africa and then blow across to South America about four years ago.
And in fact, it's only happening now.
So it's, again, the timeline problem is the biggest thing.
And I'm very leery about that.
In fact, down here where the rubber meets the road, I actually got a call during the break by my marketing folks saying, we're going to wring your neck for saying, you know, a month to two months out on the radioactive Russia, yeah.
But I feel strongly that next does mean one to two months in this case, but I could be wrong again.
art bell
Okay, but not about the event itself.
ed dames
Correct.
Not about any remote viewer that's trained.
It doesn't have to be MeArt.
Any of my thousands of students that are trained using that same search term, the same search term.
In fact, the search term is the next event with significant impact upon human activities.
Using that particular input will produce the same result because that's what everybody's trained to do.
Produce the same data from the same input term, just like an internet search, database search.
art bell
So it's kind of like going to Google, the Google of the mind, as it were.
ed dames
It is.
It is indeed.
art bell
But that's where errors can occur because, oh, for example, I can go to Google and be searching for something, and if I don't put in just the right word, I get scattered, meaningless results.
ed dames
That's correct.
And that's why we're so this is called queuing in our business.
Remote viewing is a three-part process.
The first, the skill itself is fairly easy to teach, but setting up the search terms requires a lot of thought, And this requires advanced training.
The workshops that I do, the second workshop that I do concentrates upon that.
And you better get the search terms right or you'll waste a lot of time and you won't be able to analyze the data because it'll be junk, junk in, junk out.
It'll be all equivocal, all ambiguous, because your search term was not tight.
art bell
Okay, and you've got a well, after the break, we'll tell everybody about it, but you've got a workshop.
Is that what you would call it coming up in Las Vegas?
ed dames
I have a workshop coming up from Vegas, and I teach online at my website.
art bell
All right.
All right.
Hold it right there, and we'll also get the website out to you.
I believe it's up on coast2coastam.com, but we'll get it here on the air as well.
Workshop coming in Las Vegas.
We'll tell you all about it.
I'm Art Bell.
So he's not going to write a book.
Adrian Dames is not going to write a book.
Just about everybody else has, that's true.
But he is going to have a workshop in Las Vegas, of all places, just over the hill from me.
And he does have a website that instructs you to do what he does, and that's remote view.
Look ahead.
So in a moment, we'll tell you all about the workshop.
Stay right there.
Well, okay, let's cover Ed.
A workshop coming in Las Vegas.
What exactly, Ed, is a workshop?
I mean, you conduct this personally, right?
ed dames
I conduct it personally.
The core of my instruction is a set of four DVDs.
And for people who do not want to learn this at home and want to want in in-house instruction or both, this will be a basic workshop.
I just realized I'm scheduled to teach in Moscow next year.
I may put that on a whole, depending on what happens reactor-wise.
But the workshop is on Memorial Day week, this next one, Memorial Day weekend, May 26th to 27th, at the Tropicana Hotel, just over the hill from you.
And it is a basic course, and it covers everything that's covered in the LearnRB DVD set.
But it's personalized instruction, and you will come out of that workshop with the skill.
That's guaranteed.
art bell
Typically, how many people are in a workshop like that?
ed dames
60 to 80.
60 to 80.
I have to cut it off at 80 because I and my assistant instructors, we can't manage any quality control after 80.
We just don't have the number of qualified instructors.
unidentified
Okay.
art bell
All right.
And it goes on for how many days?
ed dames
Two days.
art bell
Two days.
ed dames
And the second day we actually do sports betting.
So a lot of people pay for their course and their trip by sports betting, too.
It's fun.
And I invite you to drop in.
It is a lot of fun.
art bell
Well, you never know, Ed.
I just might.
ed dames
So you can sign up.
There's a toll-free number to sign up for that or to go to the DVDs.
If you want that, I can give it to you.
art bell
Fire away.
ed dames
It's toll-free 1-866-607-8439.
art bell
Okay, that's 866-607-8439, correct?
unidentified
Correct.
ed dames
Or you can go to my website, learnrv.com.
Learnrv.com.
And that's where I teach also.
And I teach all the advanced techniques there for free.
I'm there every day teaching advanced techniques, including how to correctly queue, which means setting up the search terms for making sure that you get what you want.
art bell
Okay, Ed, here's a question for you.
Again, looking out 40 or 50 years to catastrophic events, isn't it possible that something major could change on the world that you haven't looked at yet?
For example, some major new source of energy would be discovered on our world that would just change the course of everything?
ed dames
As far as we're concerned, empirically, based upon 25 years of working lots of different things and not writing books, no, because we would not have been able to see these scenarios if they didn't exist in time.
And yes, I am implying that time is locked.
If we can see it, it already exists in time.
It's out there.
We haven't caught up with it yet temporarily in terms of the physical world as we know it.
Time has not gotten us there yet.
art bell
Have you ever actually looked at the nature of time itself, Ed?
ed dames
I haven't looked at the nature of time.
I don't know how I would attack that, but I've been very, very concerned about this thing about locked events.
I don't like the idea of set futures and all of that, but apparently as far as we're concerned, empirically, it appears to be the case.
For instance, it doesn't seem fair to me that we can, as remote viewers, can pick the winner of a sports event, a basketball game or a baseball game.
That doesn't seem fair in some ethical way to me that we can be able to do that every time.
It's like, okay, no matter what these teams do, this team is going to win here.
And we found that to be the case without fail.
And yet, that's the way it is.
art bell
So I don't see how that can be the way.
Let's say, just as an example, that you were able to look ahead and see that Joe Blow is going to walk out into a street and get hit by a car on some certain date or at some certain time.
Now, with a warning, Joe Blow could avoid that highway, stay home, stay in bed all day, and conceivably change what cannot be changed.
ed dames
Correct.
There's one thing, but the paradox is if we tell, we would not have been able to remote view the accident itself if it didn't actually exist in time.
That's our working hypothesis based upon two and a half decades of doing this.
Things get really fuzzy.
For instance, if I attempt to remote view where you're going to eat dinner tonight, let's assume that you're still going to be alive, which is a preconceived notion that you're going to eat dinner, that kind of thing.
Let's say that those are givens, and there's any inkling Whatsoever in my mind that I'm going to tell you, then I won't be able to see where you will eat dinner.
My remote procession will be a mess.
art bell
Okay, so in other words, a paradox would not be allowed to occur.
ed dames
Correct.
Empirically, as far as we know.
That is what we've learned in the business.
art bell
Okay.
All right, then.
What about free will?
ed dames
I mean, that certainly dovetails with what I'm saying here.
Free will is free will.
If you decide that you want to pull the trigger on somebody, you know, and that you actually will in time, then a remote viewer can spot that up ahead in the future if they're looking at you.
art bell
That's something we never even talked about.
You remember that movie about pre-crime?
Have you ever seen that?
ed dames
Was this this Tom Cruise movie?
Yeah, I can't remember the name of it now, but it was.
art bell
They had this unit put together about pre-crime.
ed dames
Minority Report.
art bell
Yeah, there you go.
That's it.
Minority Report.
And they had these psychics in a tank, floating in a tank, and they could see crime before it occurred, and they were arresting people before the crime was committed.
Could RV be so accurate as to ever do something like that?
ed dames
Well, from our perspective, again, empirically, if we were able to, we wouldn't be able to, the event wouldn't exist at all unless it was real, unless it really happened.
And so what that means essentially is we would not be able to prevent it.
art bell
Too bad.
A lot of people would like to see you floating in a tank, Ed.
ed dames
Yeah.
A lot of people would like to see me tanked.
You want to see me tanked?
Come to Vegas.
unidentified
Well, after the second day, I'll be tanked.
art bell
Oh, boy.
It is an odd notion, Ed, when you think about it.
I mean, free will should be able to and yet you're saying, no, that's not the way it'll occur because you simply wouldn't be able to see it, which would prevent the paradox.
ed dames
In some domain, in some type of domain, I think free will exist, but it's like it's predestination.
Like, you have free will, but it's predestination also, if you get the gist.
art bell
I don't, because free will implies that if you knew something was going to happen, that your free will would enable you to prevent it or circumvent it or in some way just ensure it didn't occur.
ed dames
Well, the real conundrum here is that if you look at in terms of remote viewing, mind is outside of time.
And if you're looking from a mind perspective, you're looking at a broad panoply of events.
For instance, if I'm looking at you, if I'm a remote viewer and I want to remote view you for some aspect of your life, I have to really focus in on where I want you now, in the past, at your birth, at your death, because as a viewer, you can see all of that.
It all exists in time at once.
art bell
What does remote viewing, as a general rule, tell us about physical death?
Does it ever look at physical death and is it able to determine if there is anything that exists after physical death in terms of consciousness?
ed dames
I'd like to say it does, but we can't do it because what we see so many times in terms of death, we see certain things happening.
We see the body being separated from what one might call a vital essence or a soul.
We often see angels at the moment that the angels are real.
But we can't follow this essence because there's no common denominator to speak of between our physical existence and our experience and this thing as it leaves.
So if it has consciousness or if it has a mind, we can't relate to it at all, nor can we see where it goes.
However, having said that, we have stumbled across worlds out there that at first we thought might be just regular extraterrestrial worlds, and there's many of them, as you might guess.
But that there's something different about them.
And we think that some of the dark matter in the universe is in another dimension, and that these essences might get reinstalled in another body, sort of like the way the Bible talks about after-death things.
But we can't relate to it using...
If I've never experienced the color red before, there's nothing in my lexicon, in my thesaurus, in my memory, to be able to say that this particular pattern of information is the color red because I have no experience there.
So your lexicon limits what you can objectify.
Even though you may be on the target, you may not be able to objectify in terms of words what you're experiencing because you don't have a label for it.
art bell
All right.
Let me jump back to something you just said.
I don't want to skip over.
You just said angels are real.
ed dames
They are very real.
art bell
You want to enlarge on that one a little bit?
ed dames
Gee, I guess.
art bell
How do you know angels are real?
ed dames
The first real indication, the first real experience that I had as a viewer was looking at the we were doing some work for the FBI as a military team on the Lockerbie explosion.
Remember, the terrorists blew the plane up.
And our task was to determine what device, if any, blew the plane up, right?
It turned out to be a Semtex explosive that was packed into a boom box that was placed aboard the plane.
But in doing that, we actually had the experience at the time the explosion and all the people dying, being thrown up against the bulkhead and things like that.
And viewers were describing all these lights and these other things, intelligences, in the plane itself, just prior to people being burned alive in the air.
And we said, what the heck is this?
And it turned out to be entities.
And so I did some research on the entities using the military team.
Again, your tax dollars at work.
And it turned out that the description of these things were everything the church fathers had described.
St. Jerome, St. Thomas Aquinas, and all the rest had described if these particular things, while if it looked like a duck and it walks like a duck, cracks like a duck, is an angel, type of thing.
All the descriptions that the church fathers had of angels matched what popped up into the cabin just prior to everybody being burned alive and vaporized.
art bell
Okay, so these entities were there and they were entities that had never been in human form.
ed dames
Correct.
Correct.
And we had no experience with them as individuals, but when you read what the church fathers say about angels, it matched that, so we just started calling them angels.
art bell
Okay, but how could you differentiate an entity of an extraterrestrial?
ed dames
Because we began, well, you know, let me put that on hold just for a moment.
All I'm saying is the way the church fathers described angels, lots of researchers, not just the church fathers, but the Arabs, they described them, to the Elohim and all that.
And in Hebrew, Arabic, and all these other literatures, the way they described what they called angels matched the descriptions of what we had here, too.
Now, in terms of aliens or extraterrestrials, I think that the Federation, a Star Trek type of Federation, is actually made up of both material beings and created beings.
And I think there's entities and intelligences out there that are really almost beyond our comprehens.
They are beyond our comprehension.
And so I don't know what to call them en masse.
art bell
All right.
Or you had a project called Star Man, remember?
ed dames
I still do.
Very much alive.
art bell
Very much alive.
And with Starman, you expect to initiate contact, yes?
ed dames
Yes, I do.
Yes, I do, with a Vanguard, because we know that after the stuff clears, after Earth becomes very barren and the air clears, so to speak, there is another race here on Earth that helps us actually rebuild and regenerate the ozone layer.
We're using generators, actual generators.
We've sketched them.
In fact, we even turned this over to Lawrence Rockefeller privately.
art bell
Oh, you did?
ed dames
Yes, we did.
And that's the race that we know is out there watching us.
These are physical beings, humanoid in nature, with real, solid devices, not what angels have, that kind of thing.
art bell
Well, if regeneration of the ionosphere is possible, and you actually have sketches of machines that could accomplish this, why not begin now?
ed dames
We are.
I want contact with this race, but all of our work suggests that they will not be here until after all this stuff happens.
All of our work suggests that.
That there can be a vanguard contact, in other words, like a tactical command post to just establish, to communicate with them, but they're not going to stop what happens.
They're not going to intervene as much as I would like them to.
art bell
Do you have any knowledge of why they're interested in us, what their motivations are?
They can't be that good if they're not going to intervene if they see this catastrophic event ahead.
ed dames
I have two guesses.
Just surmise.
Number one is the prime directive idea, where you have to allow things to run their course because otherwise everything's cross-leveled.
You intervene, and I mean, they land on the White House lawn.
The first thing we do is ask them to help us with our deforestation problem, our AIDS problem, and this and then if they don't help us, they must be our enemy.
That's number one.
Number two is, again, surmise, I think in terms of a galaxy or a collection or a constellation, that you're only as strong as your weakest link.
I remember as a young infantryman, if somebody on the squad was just kind of stupid, you had to stay online as you attack a target because the stupid guy will shoot you in the back because he's too slow.
So you had to move at his speed unless you kicked him in the very air and sped him up.
Well, in terms of moving forward in evolution, material beings may need to wait for the more primitive races to reach some type of a threshold in terms of evolution for the higher races to be able to move forward too.
That's a guess I have.
art bell
Have you ever had an impression, Ed, of whether they're a friend or foe?
In other words, they're keeping hands off, perhaps for the reasons you just articulated.
But beyond that, would you consider them to be concerned with us as a friend would be concerned?
ed dames
No, no, as more like a UN assistance project.
It's very, very similar to that when we look ahead at what they're doing.
It looks very much like a UN support project to a third world or undeveloped nation.
It's like that, sort of somewhere between mentorship and altruism.
If you want to call out a friend, I guess you could, but that's not quite how I define a friend.
It's a very assistance project on a part of the UN, you know.
art bell
Yeah, eventually, one country or the other, I would hope it would be us, but I have my doubts, will get to Mars.
And you once said you sensed something, perhaps machine-like, if I'm remembering correctly, moving beneath the surface of Mars.
ed dames
We're not going to get to Mars.
The Russians, the Chinese, the Japanese, and the Germans, they'll get to Mars.
But we've looked at this way back when, in the military team, Luke the head.
The people that are landing on Mars and the outer planets are not Americans.
Americans are finger-pointing in Congress because our country is broke.
We're bankrupt.
Totally bankrupt.
We don't have the money to go on these missions.
art bell
But we do have, we're just not allocating the money.
We have the money.
We're the richest nation on earth.
We're just not allocating it.
Ed, hold on.
When we come back, we're going to open the phone lines, and that should be a raucous session indeed.
So if you've got a question about something Ed said, or just plain, a question for Ed, now be the time.
You know the portal numbers.
If not, they'll be recited as we return.
From the high desert, I'm Mark Bell.
Here I am.
My guest is Major Ed Dames, a very controversial fellow indeed.
Your opportunity to ask him any question you would like is coming right up.
Those are the numbers.
Don't miss out.
It's coming next.
Well, okay, Ed, just prior to the phones, is there anything you want to get in that you have not managed to squeeze in in this program thus far?
ed dames
No, just one small thing about Titan.
What the Cassini mission hasn't photographed yet, and what it may not be able to photograph because of its technological limitations, is one of the deepest and most beautiful canyons in the solar system.
One side of the canyon is almost carved in what looks like olivine, green olivine stone.
It's very deep and very beautiful.
So I'm hoping that someday we'll get a picture of that.
Because our remote viewers have sketched.
art bell
All right.
Here we go.
Wildcard line.
It would be Melissa in Windsor, California.
You're on with Major Ed Daves.
unidentified
Hi, I had a comment and a question.
The comment kind of went along with you were asking about those events that are locked in time.
And I just kind of thought that there's destiny and there's fate, and those things that are locked in time are destiny.
And then the free will comes in and the fate part of it.
There are certain things that can be changed, or you can see them and they can be changed, but there are certain things that cannot be changed.
So it's not that everything is locked in.
ed dames
I think that I would compare it, would like to compare it to sort of a river where the river is going to flow and that's your life.
And there are these eddies you can get stuck up in if you want to.
They're there.
And there's some wiggle room on the sides, but that may be akin to what you're saying, at least analogous to fate and destiny.
unidentified
Yeah, and that kind of leads into my question, which is how do you determine if you're in the right timeline or the right parallel, you know, as far as parallel universes are concerned, how do you know that you're actually within your timeline?
How do you determine that you are?
ed dames
I won't call it a parallel universe.
In our business, we call it an optimum trajectory.
Some people are already on their optimum trajectory.
They just know.
They don't need to be a remote viewer to do that.
But people who are analytical types like myself, who think we know it all consciously, we don't know anything because we're not dealing with a higher mind.
So we turn to a higher mind and we use the search term, our name, optimum trajectory.
And then that tells us, hey, you need to be over here.
You need to be doing this.
Because that's your super conscious telling you, and it's your superior mind as opposed to your analytical mind.
And it knows what's best for you.
And that's how we make the determination as viewers.
unidentified
Okay.
Have you ever had an experience with remote viewing?
And I don't know if it's like maybe astral traveling, crossing over into remote viewing, but of ever having any contact with anyone or speaking to anyone, I had that happen to me one time, and I both astral travel and remote view, but to where I actually experiences and astral travel, and that's not what we do in our profession.
ed dames
Remote viewing is an information collection skill.
It's a skill.
And astral travel, out-of-body experiences are very real, but that's not what we're in the business to do.
And yes, I have had those experiences, and they're quite wonderful.
art bell
You actually remote-viewed, of course, Satan, right?
unidentified
Yes.
ed dames
The idea of Satan.
Everything exists as a pattern of information.
I did not know whether that was a real entity, a real thing, or just an idea.
I found out what it was when I remote viewed it.
art bell
Okay.
First time caller line, Greg in Los Angeles.
You're on with Major Ed Dames.
unidentified
Hey, guys, nice to talk with you.
My question is, once you start to learn remote viewing, does that permanently change your brain?
And are there negative effects to happen into this Pandora's box?
ed dames
You said other negative effects?
Do you say that?
unidentified
Yeah, are there negative effects of you starting to learn and study about remote viewing?
ed dames
It changes your life because you can't look at the world the same way anymore because you know that you can know anything and that that is a change right there.
Some people prefer to just stop right there and they're satisfied with that knowing that they can know anything because it's again it's a skill takes work.
Other than that I don't know of any negative things although I wish I would not have seen certain things that are coming ahead if you call that negative.
But no, there isn't anything negative about it.
But it does change you forever because you know that you can know anything.
art bell
Well that could conceivably be negative, right?
A change forever.
Who knows what kind of change?
I mean knowing some of the things, for example, that you know, Ed, it seems to me could lead to God, it could lead to deep depression, it could lead to all kinds of things.
unidentified
It could.
ed dames
It could.
I mean, for me, though, I mean, there's a lot of joy in my work.
I wouldn't have stuck with it for 25 years because I'm not easily entertained, even though I'm blonde.
Yes, there's some things that I wish I would not have seen.
I agree.
art bell
Okay, well, there you are.
And couldn't those things lead to a person becoming depressed?
I mean, a lot of, after all, Ed, a lot of what you talk about is very depressing.
A lot of what's actually happening right now is very depressing.
ed dames
Well, the truth is the truth.
I mean, we could put blinders on and prefer not to know and stay happy, you know, fiddle while Rome was burning.
It's just a matter of opinion.
unidentified
Okay.
art bell
All right.
John in Washington, you're on with Major Ed Dames.
unidentified
Hi.
Hi, this is John from Bonnie Lake, Washington.
Right.
Concerning predestination and the will of man, we are in the fight of our lives between good and evil.
I'm asking the question: as far as predestination goes, don't we have to submit to either the good or the bad in the predestination order of things to choose which side they will be on?
So therefore, they both have to be brought to clarification?
ed dames
I don't know.
I mean, if you like the concept of a creator, then part of creation is what you call the idea of good, and the other part is evil.
So the creator has allowed for both of those ideas, both of those paradigms.
And other than that, I can't answer your question.
art bell
That really has to be, doesn't it, Ed?
I mean, you really can't have and can't understand even the concept of evil without good or good without evil, right?
ed dames
There's no context.
It would be, I mean, the Creator is a monad, but out of that falls all this dichotomy and all these branches and things like that of creation and ideas, and good and evil are two of them, one juxtaposed to the other, at least in our minds.
Exactly.
art bell
All right.
Tim in Alberta, Canada.
Your turn with Major Ed Dames.
unidentified
Hey, gentlemen, how are you tonight?
art bell
Well, I'm okay.
unidentified
Calling from Colek Alberta, it's Missing Allegerjet, Tim.
It's funny.
I haven't been on the site coast to coast AM for about a month and a half, and I was just sitting here ready to go to bed.
And for some reason, I just said, hey, check our belt.
And lo and behold, it's Major Ed Dames on.
art bell
Yes.
unidentified
What a treat.
Hey, I've got a question about this big seismic event.
I don't think you guys touched on that tonight.
We had a huge reporting.
It's a 7.6 in the Solomons.
art bell
Actually, it was 8.0.
unidentified
8.0?
Okay, they've downgraded it a bit then.
No, no, they haven't.
art bell
No, no, no.
That's upgrading, sir.
And 8.0 is not downgrading.
It's upgrading.
unidentified
Okay, I was just on the IRS site.
That's the worldwide one.
And they've got it.
They keep changing it a bit, eh?
As the time goes on.
But they've got it at a 7.6 now.
That's what's on their way.
art bell
Well, whatever.
There were actually two earthquakes.
The first originally reported as 8.
CNN also reported it as 8.
And then there was a 6.7 or something like that that immediately almost followed it.
unidentified
There's the aftershocks.
Boy, those are pretty large for that's a big event.
I'm wondering, like, considering the West Coast, there's that Nostradamus Quantrain that talks about the abyss opening at Easter.
Now, whether it's a geographical or geological event or maybe a social one, there's a good possibility that at Easter some year in the future, there could be a large earthquake.
And here it is, well, Easter is next week for crying out loud, I guess.
Hey, one thing about the honeybees?
Yes.
You guys aware with the polar bears what's going on up north, eh?
Yes.
There's been a lot of misreporting on that.
And, you know, I'm up in northern Canada.
And a lot of people are, you know, they're reporting the cubs are drowning.
And there's been some of that.
Some of the bears have drowned.
You know, they're not in condition to swim because they're weak because their hunting skills have been more or less taken away from them.
Because what's going on with the polar bears is that they feed on the seals.
But what's happened is that, you know, when the months are cold and the ice is there, the way they feed is that they wait by the air holes that the seals have.
When the seals come up for air, they're right at the holes and they dive in with their head and they haul them out and they feed on them.
And what's happening is there's so much open water, the seals aren't making holes.
They don't have to.
So the bears are waiting on the ice holes and the seals aren't even around.
They don't have to come through the ice anymore.
So do you actually have a question?
art bell
Sir, do you have a question for Ed?
unidentified
Yeah, it was just about the earthquake.
If he's remote, do you have anything for this month?
That's it.
art bell
All right, all right.
Well, actually, I think not.
Obviously, Ed didn't say anything about the earthquake in the Solomon Islands, but Ed, have you looked ahead at geologic events?
ed dames
No, I don't qualify anymore.
The specific search term that we use and that I encourage my students to use is the next event with significant impact upon human activities.
That appears to be a good one.
That search term is adjudicated by the global mine, and in this case, it points to radioactive leak, next event with significant impact.
It doesn't point to earthquake, it doesn't point to anything else like that.
Why that is, I don't know.
art bell
All right.
Sean in New York, you're on with Major Ed Dames.
unidentified
Good morning, Art and Major Daines.
Major Daines, I wonder, have you ever, or would you possibly, remote view the possibility that Mars' moons, Deimos and Phobos, Mars' twin moons, were once upon a time perhaps one larger moon and were destroyed by perhaps a cataclysmic collision with another asteroid.
And perhaps that might have been what put Mars out of action as far as a planet which might have been sustaining life at the time.
art bell
Okay, Sean, I can sort of start to answer for him.
That has to be something that would be a project he would undertake.
So unless he's undertaken that in the past as a project, he's not going to be able to answer it.
ed dames
Ed?
Done a lot of work, military team and civilian counterparts on Mars' past.
It did have a civilization in the past, distant past, and that civilization did meet its demise by a geophysical event, something coming in from the outside that destroyed the Martian atmosphere.
But other than that, I don't know the physics or the dynamics or the details of what that event was.
art bell
All right.
Jim, somewhere in Ohio, you're on with Major Ed Dames.
unidentified
Hi.
Hi, hi.
Art and Ed.
This has to do with when you said that the honeybees were going downhill because of the UV radiation or irradiation, however you want to word it.
In my town of Lakewood, Ohio, outside of Cleveland, they did the spraying of the West Nile virus, and I took my family to a motel.
It was an instinctive thing to do it.
But when I came back after they did the spraying because they thought the mosquitoes were going to kill us all, the honeybee population went down.
And I know that you were talking about the UV radiation, but what about remote viewing, utilizing things where the in other words, like we're working on a thing, like you said, about UV radiation, but what about what we're doing is mankind to cause a problem that we have a control over?
Why in the world do we spray for a Westnow virus, and then when I came back to my area to live, the honey bee population was milk?
ed dames
Oh, no, no, there's no doubt but that.
What we use as a search term is the primary cause.
The primary cause is UV and the bees essentially being blinded.
I ought to go in the business selling sunglasses to bees.
But that's not to say that they're not dying from pesticide poisoning and other things.
We're saying that the primary cause of this particular syndrome is the increased UV radiation, which is also causing high levels of melanomas and cataracts among mammals, including not just humans, but pets too, and livestock.
art bell
Well, eventually the scientists, I hope, will figure out what it is, and we'll know, and we'll see if it matches up.
Jim, in Colorado, you're on with Major Ed Dames.
unidentified
Thank you, both, you gentlemen, for your life's work.
You guys are wonders.
art bell
Thank you.
unidentified
And I have a question about your course.
I bought your course and Paul Smith's course.
On your course, I got about three-quarters of the way through it, and I got sick.
And I came off the course for about two months, and I need to get back in.
How do I get back in without goofing up everything?
ed dames
Go back in where you started.
I mean, I'm sorry, where you finished.
Go right back there.
unidentified
Okay.
ed dames
Yeah.
There's no need to review.
Just start off where you left off.
unidentified
And one other question about Paul Smith's.
I know it's coming out very shortly.
I really look forward to the dowsing course.
I bought that when I bought your course through your website.
art bell
Dowsing.
All right.
We were talking about dowsing last night.
That's an interesting question.
Ed, dowsers are real.
They really do find water.
How are they doing that, Ed?
ed dames
Is it have any relationship to it does have a relationship in your unconscious, what we call the unconscious part of your mind, the thing that you have access to when you sleep and in moments of revelation, is directly hooked up to your autonomic nervous system and it bypasses.
It does a complete end run around the thinking mind.
In fact, in remote viewing, you're taught, one of the first things you're taught is not to think.
You are not allowed to think because that mucks up the purity of the information.
We have ways of teaching that are quite easy to teach, believe it or not.
But that's what dowsers are doing.
They're allowing their unconscious to talk to their body without any thinking whatsoever.
And unconscious has access to all information.
unidentified
It's that simple.
art bell
Well, and certainly to water.
Gloria in New York, you're on with Major Ed Dames.
unidentified
Yeah, hi, good morning.
Thanks for taking my call, and thanks for another wonderful sleepless night here.
I was wondering, you very briefly said USA was bankrupt, and I was wondering if that was inside information from remote viewing or just a comment of feeling you had.
And then also regarding Predestiny, I was wondering if you or anyone else had something like this happen.
Now, Art said that he had that thing where you felt the need to jump up and look at your car right before someone backed in.
I had a few things that were kind of like big, big picture things that were very strange.
Like in my late 20s, right after I visited a sick uncle, I was telling someone about it, and I just had this overwhelming urge to tell them, yeah, he had some medical emergency, and I helped out by sharing some of my medication with him and save the day.
And as it was coming out of my mouth, I was just thinking, this is stupid.
Why am I saying this?
This didn't happen.
So I stopped myself and then found myself wanting to say that over and over.
And 25 years later, when my father was sick, that exact thing happened.
He had an emergency that I was able to help with.
And then regarding even his death, I had a few years where I couldn't really afford to get home much, which always was distressing.
But I always thought, well, don't worry because before he does die, you will be able to spend a few months solid with him, and there will be two friends who help you out.
And this was what I'd had, 15, 20 years.
Well, the moment that's exactly what we're doing.
ed dames
The way that we perceive time is not the way time really is.
The moment that Art answered your phone call, that moment is just as real as this moment right now.
Where did it go?
It didn't go anywhere.
It still exists.
But the way in which we process information is not the way time really doesn't flow that way.
It just is.
And in terms of the U.S. being bankrupt, all I said was that we're not going to make it to the outer solar system because Congress is finger-pointing at each other and doesn't allocate funds for space travel.
art bell
And you said you saw many other countries on the moon and Mars, but not us.
ed dames
Mars and the outer planets, not us.
art bell
Boy, that's a sad one.
All right, Ed, hold tight.
We're at a break point.
My guest is Major Ed Dames.
Not all of what he says, or even a great majority, is all that cheerful to listen to.
But it certainly is interesting.
And if you look back on many things he said, I'm sorry to say the scientists are beginning to agree.
I'm Art Bell.
Oh, we're all on a ride.
All right.
Good morning, everybody.
I'm Art Bell.
And this is Sort of the coming to a close segment for the weekend.
It's my pleasure, my honor, to be escorting you through it.
Not all of it pleasant, to be sure, but fascinating, no doubt.
We'll be right back.
Here is a very interesting question.
With regard to the nuclear accident that Ed sees coming in Russia, if you look at what's still going on at Chernobyl, the sarcophagus, I'm reading now from a Wikipedia story, is not an effective permanent enclosure for the destroyed reactor.
It's hasty construction, in many cases, conducted remotely with industrial robots, is aging badly.
If it collapses, another cloud of radioactive dust could easily be released.
The sarcophagus is so badly damaged that even a small earthquake or even a severe wind could cause the roof to collapse.
A number of plans have already been discussed for building a more permanent enclosure.
According to official estimates, 95% of the fuel in the reactor at the time of the accident remains inside the shelter with a total radioactivity of nearly 18 million caries.
The radioactive material consists of core fragments, dust, lot of like fuel-containing materials that flowed through the wrecked reactor building before hardening into a ceramic form.
And they say that's not stable.
So, Ed, is there any chance that what you're seeing is just more from what's already happened?
ed dames
Yeah, I thought about that, Art, because the GFIX work was leading up toward northern Ukraine, but it ended up in Russia.
So it is in Chernobyl.
Now, Chernobyl is another problem because one of the problems is that Ukraine is saying that the former Soviet Union, Russia, is responsible for providing the money to maintain the sarcophagus.
Because Ukraine doesn't have the money.
So when that thing does crack, we've got some real problems on our hands.
unidentified
You can virtually.
art bell
Yeah, you can see a repeat of what happened or even worse.
ed dames
Because Trinum Beale is in Ukraine, present-day Ukraine.
And it could very well be worse.
art bell
Oh, boy.
All right.
Mike in Ohio, you're on the air with Major Ed Dames.
unidentified
Good evening, Major Dames.
Evening.
Two quick questions, guys.
Ed, quickly, is there a difference between the Matrix versus the Psyche?
And the fun question, Ed, was, I believe remote viewing is done with your eyes closed.
ed dames
Negative.
Eyes open, and it's an intention management skill.
You have to have your eyes wide open.
Once you close your eyes, it invites imagination.
You learned that in hour one of my course.
art bell
And the matrix versus the psyche?
ed dames
The psyche is an individual thing.
The matrix is a global mind.
The matrix is a universal mind.
And the psyche is totally individual, and the psyche disappears when you die.
The matrix stays the same.
Mind doesn't change.
The psyche does.
art bell
Okay, Bob in Burbank, California.
Your turn with the major.
unidentified
Hello, it's Robert from California.
Hello, Ed Dames.
Hi.
Hi.
I was just wondering if you have access to people on the FBI.
We had an incident a few years ago after the 9-11 terrorist attack where there was information about a WMB being placed in a library in L.A. Are you aware of that?
ed dames
Negative.
unidentified
No?
Okay.
Well, I'll go somewhere else then, because I was doing something with those FBIs.
Anyway, number one, Mars, we know from all the surveillance pictures that we've taken about there's pyramids and there's ruins on the planet Mars.
And most people now try to laugh it off, but you can't really hide the fact that there's structures there.
So from my taking from people I've spoken to that that planet at one time had atmosphere like our planet and did in fact lose it similar to how we're losing ours and whoever or whatever lived there is now living beneath the surface like you were stating that we would have to move beyond the surface of this planet.
Do you want to concur that what happened to Mars and how our future is going to be very similar to what they're experiencing?
ed dames
I don't concur exactly because I don't know the details.
I know at least one structure, at least one structure that my team knows, a three-sided pyramid that is man-made.
It's an artificial structure.
That's there.
The race, there were three major races that lived on the planet that we're aware of.
It does not look like they're the ones under the planet right now, although that's difficult to ascertain.
We know there are machines, sentient machines that are moving below the planet and sometimes on the surface, but we don't know what the life forms are down there.
Are they the remnants of that civilization that are in a hibernation?
We just don't know.
unidentified
Okay.
art bell
Well, I'll say this for you, Ed.
You never deviate from what you say.
All the way to London, England on the international line.
Nicholas, you're on the air with Major Ed Dames.
unidentified
Hi, Art.
Thanks for taking my call again.
I've got quite a brief question ready for Mr. Dames.
Now, back in 1992, I was lying in bed one morning, and the whole of the bed and the whole of my body started to vibrate in a particularly fast manner.
It was quite remarkable.
And I then heard an American, and it was an American accent, you won't convince me otherwise, say, we're getting interference.
Moments later, the whole experience stopped.
My question for you, Mr. Dames, is this.
Have or has the U.S. military ever experimented with a kind of real-time conscious remote viewing as opposed to the remote viewing that I understand you talk about?
No.
Sorry.
ed dames
No, absolutely not.
art bell
He says no.
And by the way, caller, we don't have accents.
You do.
unidentified
Well, okay.
You asked why I guess I can't win that one.
But what are you kidding?
I always wondered about that experience, and it wasn't.
art bell
It sounds very much like the beginning of an OBE to me.
ed dames
It does very much sound like the beginning of an OBE.
That's very similar to what does happen when you start to leave your body.
unidentified
That did cross my mind, but the American accent, what appeared to be a third, or a second person rather, there completely kind of had no answer at all.
ed dames
The only way that I could provide information on that is to actually remote view the experience itself and to put together the pieces.
That's the only way that I would know what's what, or not.
unidentified
That's fair comments.
All right.
Well, look, thanks for taking my question anyway.
art bell
You're very welcome.
Thank you for the call from so far away.
In Los Angeles, it would be Gail now for Major Ed Dames.
ed dames
You mean Daryl?
art bell
Well, it says Gail, G-A-I-L.
unidentified
No, I think you just heard me wrong.
Hello.
art bell
Hi.
unidentified
It's Daryl like a boy.
I guess a technical question.
I always understood remote viewing to be more of a geographical kind of remoteness.
ed dames
That was coordinate remote viewing in the early days, where geographic coordinates were provided to a military operative, and the military operative would describe what's at the site.
That was the beginning called Project Scan Eight.
Go ahead.
unidentified
So what you're doing, then, is that different than what the precognitive psychic does?
ed dames
It's different as going into the Internet on a database search.
If you were to search Google for a specific term, that's what we do.
Everything exists as a pattern of information, and we go into specific patterns of information and download whatever is there.
unidentified
Oh.
Okay.
Thank you very much.
Good morning.
art bell
You're very welcome, and have a good morning.
Ken in Rockford, Illinois.
You're on with Major Ed Dames.
unidentified
Okay.
My question is, has your guest seen anything about Iran's capability of striking us, especially with the missiles that are supposed to take the EMs out of the atmosphere?
ed dames
No.
unidentified
No.
art bell
Well, I think what he means is he hasn't looked at it.
Right, Ed?
ed dames
Correct.
art bell
So many people think that, again, that a remote here is just like a psychic, and these things can come to you, and or you can consider it as a call, and it just doesn't work that way.
ed dames
We have to focus on specific things to know what's there.
If we're not looking in that direction, we will not see it, figuratively speaking.
art bell
And it takes an individual or a team a significant amount of time, i.e.
work, to come up with any answers to anything.
ed dames
It's like putting together pieces of a jigsaw puzzle.
You have to collect all the pieces and then put them together before you see what's what.
art bell
Okay.
Burke is a first-time caller from Louisiana.
Burke, you're on the air.
unidentified
Hi, guys.
How you doing?
art bell
Fine.
unidentified
All right.
I have a question with regard to negative energy or negative entities, and I wondered if there's any kind of possibility where that kind of negative stuff can influence or distort any kind of remote viewing.
ed dames
I haven't run into it in my business, but I know people that deal with out-of-bodies have, and that's all I know.
But I have not run into it, nor have any of my students.
unidentified
So your organization is pretty free of it, then?
ed dames
Well, this isn't just my organization.
I've trained thousands of people to do this.
Well, your students and remember, it's a mind tool.
And the things you're talking about, we don't use the term energy or whatever, or entities.
That's a horse of a different color.
unidentified
Okay, I see.
I didn't know if that kind of thing could have an influence on it or not.
ed dames
Negative.
No, we haven't experienced that.
But it can have an influence on out-of-body, yes.
art bell
Okay.
Have you ever remote viewed out-of-body experiences as a search term?
ed dames
I've done it myself.
Remember, we had to go to the Monroe Institute.
Bob Monroe, who wrote the book, Journeys Out of Body, his Institute was used to vet and assess our candidates for our program.
And so we all had to go through his program there and attempt out of bodies in the gateway course.
So we've had that personal experience with that.
And in the early days, we used altered states, laying down on a bed in an altered state, electrically, nullve out, those kind of things, to collect intelligence before the advent of Ingo Swann's method of remote viewing.
art bell
Hey, Ed, when you remote viewed Lucifer, Satan, can you remember, Ed, the impressions and put words to them that you felt in the presence of Satan?
ed dames
Yes, as I mentioned before, I felt that it was a real entity and not just an idea.
It was cold, extremely beautiful, crystalline, extremely beautiful, but it could suck the vital essence right out of you, and it's nowhere that you wanted to be looking at because it knew that you were looking at it, and it just didn't feel good.
It was like, you know, this was not something I should have done.
art bell
Yeah, I certainly thought so, if you recall at the time, that you should not have done it.
ed dames
Well, you know, fools go where angels fear to tread.
And it's April Fool's Day.
art bell
Yeah, where it was.
All right, Luke in Talgary, Canada, all the way up there.
You're on with Major Ed Ames.
Good morning.
unidentified
Hey, how are you doing there, guys?
Now, listen, I didn't really call to talk to the Ed guy there, but it's very cool to talk to Ed.
Nice to talk to you.
Listen, I've had lots of miracles all around me.
I've been on a spiritual journey since 1997.
And my big question is this, because it happened to me.
I had a gentleman in Ottawa take me, tell me all about myself, and then take me to a river right behind the parliament buildings in Ottawa, told me to get out of my truck and go to the riverbank, and Jesus appeared right in front of me.
art bell
Well, we're mostly taking questions for Ed Dames.
That's certainly an intriguing story.
So is there anything at all you want to ask?
unidentified
Well, Ed, do you know anything about that?
Because I'll tell you this also, I know Satan or Lucifer, whatever you want to call it.
I've had many experiences with that character as well.
ed dames
Now, I'm an analytical man.
I just have to research something before I can digest it.
And otherwise, it's actually a scientific approach.
And in a non-orthodox way, but without looking at that, I wouldn't know what to say.
I wouldn't have any comment.
art bell
What made you decide to remote view Satan, Ed?
ed dames
It was the Columbine incident, where it was the first time that I could research it.
That I knew about recorded history where children were killing other children.
I had no idea.
And I thought maybe it's some maybe it has something to do with this idea of evil.
And so I started looking for Satan in the war room and those kinds of things.
What's out there?
art bell
Right.
First time caller line brings Dave in California.
unidentified
Thanks for taking my call.
I just kind of had a question like the last caller.
I was wondering how the church viewed remote viewing.
ed dames
The Catholic Church is not like it at all.
In fact, there's a catechism that says you will not do that, you know, because priests Are supposed to be interceding between you and God, and they're going to be the modem, the modulated, demodulated.
They don't want you communicating directly with anything.
The rest of the churches are fine with it, but not the Catholic Church.
art bell
Well, you may recall you spent some time on the air with Father Malachi Martin.
ed dames
That's true.
That's true.
And I had a great respect for him as well.
He asked me to help discern whether or not one of his victims was possessed or was a psychological problem or both.
But I wasn't able to do that before he died.
Ill-fated accident.
art bell
Well, thank you.
Thank you.
He actually asked you to assist him in a situation?
ed dames
He asked me on your program, and then his secretary called me to set it up after the program was over.
art bell
No kidding.
No kidding.
And you can, without respect to time, you can remote view incidents not just in the future, but the past as well, correct?
ed dames
Past is much easier.
Because we don't have to worry about any, it's set, it's locked in stone, whereas the future, we may not be, you know, there are things that if, for instance, if you were to attempt to try to remote view somebody that might be in an accident and they never were, you would get no information.
Past is easy.
art bell
Did you look at the assassination of President Kennedy?
ed dames
Absolutely.
Mel Riley and I did that together.
And the JFK was shot through the, although he was hit by a high-caliber round, he was also shot through the Adams apple by a flashette that was fired from a device in the dashboard of the car, which means that it was a conspiracy, which very, very greatly upset me at the time because I didn't believe there was a conspiracy.
So again, he was shot through the Adams apple with a flashette that went straight through, and that was fired from the inside of his car from a device in the dashboard.
art bell
Rick in Nashville, Tennessee, you're on with Major Ed Dames.
unidentified
Yeah, I was just wondering if for people that do not remote view, should we be concerned for our privacy, or is there some sort of moral or ethical code that you guys have to go by to choose what?
ed dames
I don't teach ethics.
I do not teach ethics.
I have personal ethics.
I will not remote view a person without their permission with it, but I have made exception.
And I'll take the hit if it's not right for a terrorist and for people like Saddam Hussein when we were after him.
But I don't teach ethics in my course.
What somebody wants to do with this is up to them.
art bell
That's very interesting.
It's a very interesting answer.
So the ethics just don't even enter into it.
ed dames
I personally feel that just because somebody has the ability to do something, you don't have the right.
But that's just me.
I can't impose that upon my students.
art bell
Have you ever refused to teach a student, knowing beforehand that their intent was bad?
ed dames
No, I haven't done that, but I did turn away a group of Arabs because I didn't trust.
I just turned away a group of very wealthy Arabs who wanted me to train their intelligence apparatus, and I said no.
But I guess that is along those lines.
art bell
One quick one.
It's Denise in Palm Springs.
You're on with Major Ed Dames.
unidentified
Hi.
Hi, thank you for taking my call.
Major Ed, there are different realms of Earth, and I realize that you tapped into a certain realm.
Now, can you tap into other realms as well?
ed dames
I kind of know where you're going in terms of the New Age movement here.
I know what you're saying because I've been around New Agers like yourself.
This is a mind tool, specifically mind, okay?
And other dimensions, other realms, other aspects of existence are real.
I know that they are.
But this tool is a mind tool.
That's it.
And we only operate in the arena of mind, period.
art bell
All right, listen, Ed.
That's it.
We're out of time.
Clock rules.
We've got to go.
You've got your workshop coming up in Las Vegas.
What dates?
ed dames
May 26, 27, Tropicana Hotel.
art bell
All right.
ed dames
Go to learnrv.com and you'll find the information.
art bell
All right, buddy.
Thanks so very much.
Until next time.
ed dames
Good to talk to you, Art.
art bell
Good night, Ed.
ed dames
Good night.
art bell
All right.
His toll-free number is 866-607-8439.
That's the weekend for me.
George will pick up the gauntlet and run with it tomorrow night.
From the high desert, from the Great American Southwest.
I'm Art Bell.
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