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March 31, 2007 - Art Bell

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	From the high desert and the great American Southwest, I bid you all good evening, good morning, good afternoon, wherever you may be in the world's time zones, each and every one covered like a blanket by this program, Coast to Coast AM.
	I'm Art Bell, here to escort you through the weekend.
	Actually, it's my honor and privilege to do so.
	Speaking of honors, they've rolled my way this year.
	It really has been something.
	Listen.
	I got a note from my boss which essentially said, Hey Art, it really is your year.
	You've been nominated for the National Radio Hall of Fame in Chicago.
	And that really is an honor.
	And so there you have it.
	I'm honored.
	That doesn't mean I'm in the National Radio Hall of Fame.
	It means I'm nominated to be in it.
	And I guess the voting occurs sometime later in the year and then You're inducted, or not inducted, or whatever happens.
	So, just being nominated, from my point of view, is an extreme honor.
	A very extreme honor.
	The webcam, tonight, if you go to coasttocoastam.com, upper left-hand side, Arts Webcam, is me.
	And that was taken just a few hours ago.
	And by the way, for those of you wondering, There's no more wondering about a baby day.
	Asia Rainbell will be here June 1st, right around noontime.
	So, don't expect me on that weekend.
	I will be busy.
	So that's actually Friday, June 1st, just about noontime.
	Alright, looking at the normally depressing, never disappointing from that point of view, world news.
	President Bush on Saturday said Iran's capture of 15 British sailors and marines was, quote, inexcusable and called for Iran to give back the hostages immediately and unconditionally.
	Bush said Iran plucked the sailors out of Iraqi waters.
	Iran's president said Saturday they were in Iranian waters and called Britain and its allies, that would be us, arrogant and selfish for not apologizing for trespassing.
	There'll be more news on Iran here in a moment.
	The U.S.
	military death toll in March, the first full month of the security crackdown, was nearly twice that of the Iraqi army.
	Now that's pretty worrisome, considering this crackdown is supposed to be the Iraqis cracking down, and we had double their fatalities.
	The Iraqis suffered 44, we suffered 81.
	we suffered 81. It just keeps going up.
	Residents of 200 homes were ordered to evacuate Saturday.
	All the news covered it as wildfires burned out of control in hills and canyons east of Los Angeles, got very near the Hollywood sign.
	The fire burned about 1,400 acres or 2.1 square miles and had burned a shed and the roof off a house in the area where residents were being evacuated.
	In Atlanta, Georgia, three people were shot during an attempted robbery at a shopping mall Saturday.
	One person critically wounded.
	Authorities were still piecing together what happened, but said the shootings happened around 5.15 in the afternoon at a store at Greenbrier Mall.
	One of the injured people was a security guard.
	What in the world ever happened to robberies where people didn't get shot and now it's multiple people?
	So that's kind of a little taste of how the news can be depressing.
	There just is not good news reported and that worries me because as you know I've done a lot of work in consciousness and I'm very very concerned that we are feeding a kind of a self-fulfilling prophecy or at least I'm not saying we are and I'm not ruling Ruling it in or out, but I'm a little concerned about it.
	Oh, just one more little item, and this is all over the net, so I have no way of knowing if it's true, but it's worrisome.
	Russian military intelligence services are reporting a flurry of activity by U.S.
	armed forces near Iran's border.
	The latest military intelligence data, now this is from Russia, bear it in mind, Point to heightened US military preparations for both an air and ground operation against Iran.
	Adding the Pentagon has probably not yet made a final decision as to when any attack would be launched according to one unnamed official.
	He said the Pentagon is looking for a way to deliver a strike against Iran that would enable the Americans to bring the country to its knees at minimal cost.
	He also said the U.S.
	naval presence in the Persian Gulf has, for the first time in the past four years, reached the level that existed shortly before the invasion of Iraq in March of 2003.
	Colonel General Leonid Ishevof, Vice President of the Academy of Geopolitical Sciences, said last week, the Pentagon is planning to deliver a massive airstrike on Iran's military infrastructure in the near future.
	A new U.S.
	carrier battle group has been dispatched to the Gulf, the USS John C. Stennis, a crew of 3,200 around 80 fixed-wing aircraft, including FAA-18 Hornets and Super Hornet fighter-bombers, eight support ships, four nuclear submarines, all headed for the Gulf, where a similar group, led by the USS Dwight D. Eisenhower, has been deployed since December of 2006.
	The U.S.
	is also sending Patriot anti-missile systems to the region.
	So that, if true, is certainly a worrisome sign in a moment, as Paul would say, the rest of the news.
	Well alright, this, as the news people say, just in.
	A key element of the second major report on climate change, which is being released Friday in Belgium, is a chart that maps out the effects of global warming, most of them bad, with every degree of temperature rise.
	There is one bright spot.
	Minimal heat rise means more food production in northern regions of the world.
	However, Number of species going extinct will rise with the heat, as does the number of people who may starve or face water shortages or floods, according to projections in the draft obtained by the Associated Press.
	Some scientists are calling this degree-by-degree projection a highway to extinction.
	It's likely to be the source of sharp, closed-door debates, say some scientists, along with a multitude of other issues in the 20-chapter draft report from the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change.
	You're going to hear a lot about this coming up.
	While the wording of the draft is almost guaranteed to change at this week's meeting in Brussels, several scientists say The focus won't.
	The final document will be the product of a UN network of 2,000 scientists as authors and reviewers, along with representatives of more than 120 governments worldwide, as last-minute editors.
	It'll be the second volume of a four-volume authoritative assessment of Earth's climate being released this year.
	The last such effort was in 2001.
	Andrew Weaver, a climate scientist with the University of Victorian BC, said the chart of results from various temperature levels is, quote, a highway to extinction, but on this highway there are many turn-offs.
	This is showing you where the road is heading.
	The road is heading toward extinction.
	Weaver is one of the lead authors of the first report, issued in February.
	Talked a lot about that.
	While humanity will survive, he says, Hundreds of millions, maybe billions of people, may not, according to the chart, if the worst scenarios happen.
	The worst stuff, quoting here, the worst stuff is not going to happen.
	Because we can't be that stupid.
	That's a direct quote from Harvard University oceanographer James McCarthy, who was a top author of the 2001 version of the report.
	Not that I think the projections are not that good, but because we can't be that stupid.
	End quote.
	I wonder if he's right.
	Is that true?
	We just cannot be that stupid.
	More than three quarters of the dangerous particulate pollution known as black carbon that blows through the West Coast in the spring comes from Asian sources.
	China's new industrialization movement burns a whole lot of coal.
	It means we won't be able to clean up our pollution until we get China to clean up its act.
	Oh, good luck!
	Although the transported black carbon, most of which is soot, is an extremely small component of air pollution, although we've seen it here on the West Coast, At land surface levels, the phenomena has a significant heating effect on the atmosphere.
	However, it also dims the surface of the ocean by absorbing solar radiation.
	That's a primary concern we have with these aerosols.
	They can really affect the global climate.
	Still worried about the bees big time.
	State agricultural officials say a mystery disorder that's killed off half the commercial bees in some parts of the country is now in Arizona.
	It's also now in Oregon.
	It's called colony collapse.
	And it was in virtually every state of the Union.
	Except for a few, and now those few are beginning to go.
	Here in Nevada, we are one of the last, I guess, to still have bees.
	Last I heard, but state by state, we're beginning to lose them altogether, and I wonder what it means.
	Losing our bees.
	What would it mean if we lost our bees?
	I, you know, I would like somebody to write a good piece on exactly what it would mean if we really lost all of our honeybees.
	Once that was a very, very far-fetched possibility indeed.
	But now we have them dying off.
	We don't have little bee bodies anywhere to dissect.
	They simply are gone.
	It's like they're abducted or something.
	Now I said this a couple of weeks ago and I'll say it again now.
	I've never been fully clear on what's in so-called chemtrails.
	But has anybody out there, anybody, put together chemtrails, on the one hand, and B, death or disappearance or whatever's happened to them on the other hand?
	Entire colonies collapsing.
	Well, okay.
	If they all had dropped dead, little bee legs in the air and all that, that'd be one thing, but they're just disappearing and I don't see how that can happen.
	We literally can't find any to dissect of those that have supposedly, well, might have died.
	We don't really have a body to prove anything at all.
	Chemtrails.
	Bees.
	Bees.
	Chemtrails.
	All right, in a moment we're going to take Unscreened, open line calls.
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	Let us begin.
	Wes, no, first time caller line, you are on the air.
	Hi.
	Hi, Art.
	It's Scott from Los Angeles.
	Yes, sir.
	Well, I've been thinking about these bees.
	Yes.
	Isn't it pretty clear that what we've got is the bee rapture?
	It's kind of like that, isn't it?
	Yes, they've just disappeared.
	Maybe it's another sign of end times.
	Maybe it is.
	Actually, if something like this occurred back, say, in the days of the Roman Empire, I'll bet you they would call it some sort of miracle, some sort of warning, some sort of, well, as you put it, sign of the end times.
	Yes.
	Well, thanks, Art.
	I love the show.
	You're very welcome, thank you.
	I hadn't thought of it that way.
	That is, to say it's part of the end times, but... If you look at what the scientists are saying... I guess... I guess it could be.
	We couldn't possibly be that stupid, right?
	Wildcard Line, you are on the air.
	Hi there.
	Hey, Art.
	How's it going?
	Very well, sir.
	Where are you?
	In Oklahoma City.
	Okay.
	Yeah, I was just calling just to see how things are going, I guess.
	I've been listening for a while and I love the show, of course.
	Who wouldn't?
	But on the beef thing, I'd heard a little bit of Linda Moulton Howells.
	Yes.
	Linda Moulton Howells and the Systemic Pesticides.
	Yes.
	Well, there are all kinds of people out there, sir, that are sort of projecting possibilities, you know, that it might be a sort of a soup of pesticides or something like that, but it seems to me that wouldn't cause the bees to, as the last caller said, you know, kind of be raptured away.
	It might cause them to be dead, but then we ought to find a whole lot of bee bodies somewhere, right?
	Yeah, and there's none of those, are there?
	No.
	It's like they've been abducted or raptured.
	Yeah, that's very bizarre.
	Another thing people might look into is the Oklahoma City bombing.
	I think that's still been unresolved.
	I guess, of course, how it may relate to the 9-11 information, but... I'm not sure what connection I see there.
	One was entirely domestic, the other not.
	Both involved buildings, I guess I could give you that.
	Other than that, I don't think there's a connection.
	Yeah, the bee thing is worrisome, but it kind of goes along with all the other news we're getting, the environmental news.
	It's getting very serious.
	It really is getting very serious.
	Could we possibly be that stupid?
	In other words, as the signs continue to mount, at what point will the consciousness of the world's people, not just us, the world's people, say, hey, something's wrong.
	I'm Art Bell.
	Uh, indeed, here I am.
	Marissa from, uh, Rio Del, California.
	A million other people keep asking me, so I will repeat it once anyway here.
	This pizza topping, um, that I've been talking about is available at, here's the website, artbellspizzapunch.com.
	That's artbells, plural, A-R-T-B-E-L-L-S-P-I-Z-Z-A-P-U-N-C-H dot com.
	Pizzapunch.
	Something, uh, Ramona and myself, mostly Ramona actually, discovered, oh my gosh, is it a decade ago now?
	I think a decade ago, and made promises about a decade ago, and now a decade later, here it finally is.
	Just amazing.
	Alright, we're going to continue with unscreened open lines, in a moment.
	Alright, to the phones we go as promised, wildcard line, you're on the air, howdy.
	Hi.
	Hi there.
	Real quick, are you familiar with who Chuck Schrammich was?
	The AM news guy in Houston?
	Of course I'm familiar with Chuck Schrammich, the late Chuck Schrammich.
	He's the one who really began all the talk about Hale-Bopp.
	Yeah, and the chemtrails and all.
	I thought it was kind of strange.
	I live in the area, so I would listen to him every day.
	And what...
	Towards the last two weeks, he was on the air.
	The other DJs were saying, you know, oh, that's a bunch of hogwash.
	He ended up getting sick, and then two weeks later, wow, he kicked the bucket.
	I just thought that was rather odd how that all went down myself.
	Well, it was odd.
	You're right.
	And I'm not implying that there was anything untoward about his passing, but...
	Yeah, he was very much ahead of his time in a lot of ways.
	And that does tend to happen to people who get ahead of their time with something or another.
	Or at least it seems to.
	East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
	Yeah, I wanted to talk about...
	There's a CliffordCarnicom.com that gives you all the information on the... Sir, I can't allow you to give a website on the air.
	There's an obvious reason for that, and I'll be glad to explain it to you, but just talk generally about the subject.
	Well, what I've found, can I tell you what I've found out so far?
	About?
	The chemtrails.
	Sure.
	They're supposedly Our contractors for the government that are spraying some stuff, pesticides and herbicides, and they have a cocktail of viruses and bacteria that are also spraying.
	Well, look, all of this is, you know, speculation, and so I'm glad I didn't allow you to give that website on the air.
	The reason we don't let people give websites on the air is because we had an instance once Of what sounded like a very innocent website having a element of porn, pornography to it.
	So, we just, you know, play it safe and don't allow websites to be given out anymore.
	Again, because we can't know the truth except a story from the Idaho Observer, which I read a couple weeks ago that actually had the breakdown of the things found in Chemtrail material, which was disgusting, all kinds of awful things.
	Once again, and it's utter speculation.
	I'm the one saying it.
	I'm saying chemtrails, bees.
	Bees, chemtrails.
	Not saying the bees are gone because of the chemtrails.
	I'm just speculating.
	That's all.
	Two things that we cannot solve.
	Right?
	First time caller line, you're on the air.
	Hi, I was calling about the beef issue you were talking about.
	Yes, ma'am.
	Where are you?
	I'm in California.
	Okay.
	And I don't know anything personally about the bees, but I subscribed to a paper that's called The Valley Voice that's from the Central Valley.
	It's out of Visalia.
	I thought you were going to tell me it was a Sacramento bee.
	Sorry.
	No, no.
	Yes, that'd be cute.
	No.
	But there was an article in the February 21st paper, and it's called Mysterious Bee Deaths Strike the Central Valley.
	And there's two different people that feel that it has to do with a pesticide that's being used, and they talk about the fact that a similar thing happened in France in, I don't know, 2001, 2003, something like that, and that Bayer, the company that did the product, the pesticide thing, See, this is all speculation because they don't really know.
	It's not nailed down yet, so everybody's speculating.
	Right, yeah, and that's all that they're saying that the people there would not admit that they were responsible, but they did pay the French when their bee industry collapsed because of the use of that pesticide, which they then took off the market.
	Anyway, I was just going to let you know that that's an article that's there that has some information about the problem, but like I say, I don't personally know anything about the bees.
	Well, here's the thing that gets me, is that they're just gone.
	They're not finding bee bodies.
	It's not like... I mean, if it was something like a pesticide, then you'd find bees with their little bee legs in the air.
	The dead, right?
	I mean, we're talking about a majority of bees in a majority of the United States.
	That would be, I don't know how many millions or billions of bees.
	But so many that surely you would find bee bodies.
	But, like the earlier caller said, it's like they've been raptured or something.
	A wild card line, you're on the air.
	Hello.
	Hey, Ark.
	This is Treetop calling you again.
	Treetop, yes.
	Yes, sir.
	I want to tell you a story one time.
	It's not a real strange story, except for one thing about it.
	I was hauling gas in Alabama back in 2004 this happened.
	Uh, an old boy ran it, had a bad run of luck anyway.
	I rolled up on this accident and I seen a corpse over in the breakdown lane and I seen a tanker truck up ahead and I was the first vehicle that came up on it.
	And I didn't know what had happened but I stopped in front of the truck and walked back to the guy in the tanker truck.
	He was looking straight ahead, the truck was out of Texas and I stepped up on the step and the guy looked down at me and he was an elderly black man driving the truck and his eyes were, his pupil and all were ice blue and he looked down at me and he never said a word and it just, it freaked me out and I just got, I went and called 9-1-1 and got my truck and left.
	I didn't know what to think about those eyes.
	What had happened, the boy that was on the side of the road had ran out in front of the truck and caught his head.
	Oh my God.
	And just took his head off, you know.
	And I read about it in the newspaper later, but you know, I didn't witness it, so... Right.
	Well, at least you called 911.
	And I'm sure truckers run into this kind of thing all the time.
	No pun intended.
	They're on the road You know, so many hours a day, sometimes with teams, and so they're going to run into all kinds of accidents, and I think a lot of highway accidents get called in by truckers.
	They've got the communication.
	No matter what you may hear about Citizens Band, and I know it's ridiculed on amateur radio circles a lot, I'll tell you something, and this is a big admission, but if I were out on the highway, and I needed help, I would much more likely get it with Citizen's Band than I would Ham Radio.
	And the reason for that is that virtually every truck out there has CB in it.
	And it's right there on the highway.
	It's a short-range communication medium that's been unfortunately populated by some undesirable people.
	Nevertheless, there's plenty of good people there, too.
	I shouldn't say just undesirable people.
	Plenty of good people there, too.
	But the fact of the matter is, you can get help there faster than you can get it anywhere else.
	And so, if you're on the highway a lot, you'd do very well to reach into the past.
	And people think it's only in the past.
	It's not.
	CB Radio is alive and well today.
	And you'll get help that way.
	First time caller line, you're on the air.
	Hello.
	Hey, how you doing tonight?
	I'm alright sir, where are you?
	Um, right now I'm in Kissimmee, Florida.
	Okay.
	Fire away, you're on the air!
	Okay, yeah, I just wanted to tell you, um, I was listening to the show last night and there was a caller that called in and was talking about, um, some reptilian race of people.
	Yes.
	Well anyway, um, I had never I've been interested in UFOs or basically the supernatural,
	but I lived in an area in California called Conco, California.
	And anyway, there was some strange activity going on, and I seen what looked like a UFO.
	And then, oh, the next day I was in my backyard looking at my horses, and they were acting
	rather peculiar.
	And there in the wooded area behind my house, I seen this, oh, God, this creature that looked
	about seven foot tall.
	And I had to shake my head because I wasn't, I couldn't believe what I was looking at.
	Did this creature look reptilian to you?
	Uh, yeah.
	Um, I looked at it and the head looks similar, you know, kind of football shaped like.
	And it looked like it was actually going, I think, translucent or transparent.
	Well, once you've seen a translucent, scaly-looking, football-headed thing, you've got to become a believer or adjust dosages of whatever you're taking.
	No, let me tell you what happened.
	Please.
	So I'm looking at this thing and I'm thinking, okay, Maybe I'm just seeing an outline or something through the trees, because, you know, it just went away.
	Well, I was going to school at the time, and the teacher there, we started talking about, oh, UFOs.
	He brought up the subject.
	And I had never been on the Internet, but I told him that I thought I had seen something one time.
	And he says, well, describe what you've seen.
	And I told him what I'm telling you.
	Okay, we don't have a lot of time here, sir.
	So he pulled it up on the website and it was exactly what I described to him.
	A reptilian?
	Yeah, and it was called reptilian is what they call it.
	Okay, well now how can you not believe once you've seen with your own eyes?
	I do believe because I've been researching it and watching for 10 years and videotaping.
	Yes.
	And I do have videotape of UFO activity in that area.
	Okay, well then the answer is you do believe.
	There's nothing like seeing something with your own eyes.
	As the song said, don't let anybody tell you what you haven't seen.
	And they will try, believe me, they will try.
	Any excuse, you know, you had a little too much of this or that.
	As I sort of jokingly mentioned to him, or anything else they might suggest.
	You know, the moon was bright, the moon was full.
	You had an illusion.
	Anything except you saw something from somewhere else.
	Wildcard Line, you're on the air.
	Hello, this is John from New York.
	Yes, John.
	Okay, so I have a question.
	Why, you and your former wife, when the UFO flew over, I know exactly where you were, I think it was your house.
	Why didn't you or your wife grab a camera?
	No sir, we were on the way back.
	If you remember the story, we were on the way back from Las Vegas.
	We were about, I can estimate for you, about a quarter or a half mile away from our home when we stopped the car and saw it.
	So we were in a vehicle, pulled over to the side of the road.
	We were not at home.
	Otherwise, I promise you, I would have been running for a camera.
	Okay, I just have one more quick question here.
	I called on Prediction Night.
	That was the one that told you UFOs are probably going to double, not double, but actually triple.
	Don't you think right now that there's much happening?
	Yes, sir.
	Don't you think it's pretty much happening now?
	What happened already?
	Yes.
	The answer is yes.
	You're going to get a ding next year.
	Oh, there we go.
	Or actually the end of this year.
	Yeah, you'll definitely get a ding from that one.
	We are in the middle of a huge worldwide UFO flap.
	No question about it.
	Landings in Somalia, Iran.
	Sightings virtually everywhere.
	You bet we're in the middle of a big flap, so you'll get a ding on that one.
	I can virtually promise.
	International Line, you're on the air.
	Hello?
	Hello.
	Yes, hello.
	Is this our bell?
	It is.
	Turn your radio off, please.
	Oh, okay.
	Turn off.
	This is Chanel Monroe calling from Boise, Idaho.
	And I've gotten through to you once before, ten years ago.
	You're on my international line.
	I know, I called the wrong number.
	Am I going to get in trouble?
	No, you're not going to get in trouble.
	No, you're not getting in trouble, but you're also, unfortunately, going to have to call the right number.
	I'm sorry, but that is for people outside the country, and I'm not exactly sure how you even got in on that line, to be honest.
	East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
	Hello, Art.
	How you doing tonight?
	I'm well, sir.
	Art, I want to tell you something that happened here about a little over a year ago.
	My mother and I were driving home.
	It was in the summertime, and we were heading You know, you can see the moon as it's coming up, and the sun was behind us.
	Excuse me.
	My mother said, Paul, what is that?
	And I said, well, Mother, it's the moon.
	And she said, oh.
	She said, that reminds me of something that I saw when I was a little girl.
	And my mother at the time was 81.
	And I said, what was that?
	And she said, I was outside playing and at the time they lived in Hobart, Oklahoma.
	And she said, I saw this light and it was coming across the field.
	And I asked my mom and dad, I said, what is that?
	And she said, they said, honey, I don't know.
	And we're driving along and she said under her breath, You know, that thing was triangle-shaped.
	And I said, Mother, how come you haven't ever said anything about that before?
	And she says, well, I don't know.
	I've never thought of it until I saw that moon in the sky.
	And I thought, you know, that was so weird, because that would have had to have been in 1929 or 1930.
	Yes, very interesting, because of course I've had Triangle, a very, very close encounter with a Triangle.
	We've had a gazillion Triangle reports from all over the world, but these have all been more or less modern, and that would have been at a time when there could not possibly, possibly have been a secret U.S.
	or any other country program flying a Triangle that Did not use conventional propulsion and flew in ways that aircraft can't fly.
	So, yes, that would have been well before it was remotely possible.
	It could have been something else that we always try to put it off on.
	Wildcard Line, you're on the air.
	Hello.
	Yeah, hi Art.
	Yeah, a little bit of speculation on the bee situation.
	Yes, sir.
	Since the introduction of genetically modified crops, is it possible that Yes.
	That there's genetically modified pollen and it doesn't agree with the bees?
	Yes, of course.
	All of these things are possibilities, yes.
	Well, that's about it.
	Oh, okay.
	Well, listen, all speculation in this area is welcome.
	That's all it is.
	And that's all mine was, is speculation.
	I thought about the chemtrails, thought about all the terrible things that were in the chemtrails the Idaho Observer reported on.
	And then I thought about the bees.
	And I, you know, there's a million other things.
	Sure, genetically modified crops could be.
	Stuff from the sky.
	Various chemicals that we, you know, put on crops trying to get better and more prolific crops.
	Sure, any of it could be the cause.
	West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
	Hi.
	Well, hey Art.
	I might have another piece to your puzzle for the bees.
	Yes, sir.
	Okay, this is Lady of Connect.
	I'm actually a female.
	I've talked to you for a long time.
	Sorry about that.
	Do you remember back in 2003 when that shuttle broke up coming over California?
	Of course, yeah.
	Well, actually, I think the major breakup was Texas, but yes, okay.
	Okay, but it broke up coming in over California and then it dumped in Texas.
	Right, right.
	At that time, in 2003, I called you.
	I was down in Pensacola, Florida.
	And when that shuttle went and broke up, like, the next day, there was, like, this pollen-looking stuff all over the garbage cans, all the way down to Pensacola.
	And it was all over the chairs and everything.
	And my neighbors were saying it looked like pollen.
	And I'm saying, no, we're just coming out of winter.
	Nothing's bloomed.
	And what was weird about this stuff was where it had rain that night.
	We got to have dust to have rain.
	And every little raindrop had its own little speck of this yellow powder stuff.
	There's been a lot of that going on.
	And then it rained that night and this stuff, it's like it hated water.
	I got it.
	Listen, I'm sorry.
	I've got to break it off.
	It's the end of the hour, but I'm with you all the way.
	We're all speculating, but it's something.
	Well, I'll tell you, it's been a long, long time.
	Dr. Evelyn Paglini.
	She, uh... Actually, she got on the air many years ago because I said I'm looking for a real broom-riding, cauldron-stirring witch.
	The real McCoy.
	And I sort of went on a search, and Evelyn is who I found.
	She was a very, very close friend of Ramona's.
	That said, there is nobody on... Well, let me read you what Shelly from Hallandale, Florida sent, and Shelly's dead on.
	Shelly made a couple of nice comments to me and then said, Listen Art, I wanted to comment on Saturday's guest.
	Evelyn Baglini was right on target when she was your guest in early 2005.
	This may refresh some of your memories.
	She warned everyone that according to the client readings she was giving, something was going to happen with weather that would profoundly impact many people.
	She saw, she said, thousands of people having to leave a part of the country.
	She was picking up Hurricane Katrina and all of the damage it did to New Orleans and the surrounding areas.
	Thousands had to move away.
	She's one of the most accurate psychics you've had on your program.
	Well, she doesn't bill herself.
	Technically as a psychic, but Shelly, you're exactly right.
	She hit that one as hard as you can hit anything right on the head.
	Evelyn Paglini coming right up.
	Parapsychologist.
	One of the leading authorities on the occult and the supernatural in the United States.
	She was born into a centuries-old family of practitioners of the occult.
	And at the age of four, Her grandfather began teaching her natural magic.
	She is a psychic, well, there you go, well, actually not psychic, a psych metaphysical teacher, lecturer, consultant, doctor of divinity and spiritual warrior.
	She's also founder of the International Psychic Center, a research investigation organization.
	So she really is psychic.
	She's been called an expert by law enforcement agencies.
	She's set precedence in the Texas court systems on abuse cases with ritual overtones, worked with law enforcement on missing persons, and murder cases involving the occult and the supernatural.
	Coming up in a moment, Dr. Evelyn Paglini.
	In my opinion, when you hit something that big, And that is big.
	That's really big.
	I mean, when you talk about the wet weather, how wet it's going to be, and that the weather's going to be so bad, thousands and thousands of people are going to have to move.
	You hit something that big on the head, you deserve being listened to.
	And so tonight, I suggest you listen very carefully.
	Evelyn Paglini, welcome back to the program.
	Thank you so much, Art Bell, for the opportunity.
	Now that was a big one.
	I mean, you know, when Katrina hit, and you probably sat there like all the rest of us, watching the coverage, you probably went, oh my God.
	Or did you just... I knew it was going to be bad, Art, but no one could comprehend the horrendous things that we saw happen to those people.
	Well, when you were talking about thousands of people having to move out of an area, I mean, that's just hardly ever happened.
	Yes, and unfortunately I feel that in the coming years it's going to happen again.
	Okay, well, here we've got, of course, environmental disaster unfolding in front of our very faces.
	I think in a report that's coming out next week, the scientist Harris Carter is saying something like, uh, not that I think the projections aren't that good, meaning that the projections of doom are good, but he goes on to say, but because we just can't be that stupid, meaning to let it happen.
	Can we?
	I don't think we want to let it happen, but it's going to happen.
	I think we're not prepared.
	We still have not reinforced our infrastructure and it is going to happen again.
	We're going to have an increase in hurricanes not only this year but in the coming years.
	We have a countdown effect coming between now and 2012 and so there's going to be a lot of catastrophes and major devastations that are going to hit this United States as well as around the world.
	Evelyn, what is it?
	I mean, it's the end of the Mayan calendar, we all know.
	And it's also coinciding with what scientists are saying is going to be this incredible sun cycle that may be bigger than anything we've ever seen.
	But is that what it is?
	I mean, is it the end of the Mayan calendar, or why 2012 between now and 2012?
	I think it's... I don't know it all, Art.
	I really don't.
	I think you would have experts that could talk about it a lot more proficiently than I can.
	I only have these feelings and these images that I get, and I feel that because of what is going on, there is like a purification or a cleansing of Earth.
	It's like a preparation for a shifting or a raising of consciousness or a new energy level that we'll be entering into in that 2012 Evil.
	but before that there is this purging that needs to take place, and it's going
	to be happening not only with natural catastrophes, but also with war, as well
	as those people who are going to continually try to devastate the economy
	by any ways, means in which it can, and there's a lot that's going to be done in
	a very evil, evil manner. Evil. Yeah, I only can use that word because in one of
	my predictions, I feel that there is a rising of evil like we have not seen in
	a long time.
	In fact, maybe in the Middle Ages we would talk about this kind of evil that is rising, that is going to be around the world.
	When I interviewed Father Malachi Martin in a long series of interviews, Evelyn, he said that in his area of responsibility in the New York City area, the New York area, Evil, and this was years ago, was up 800% in the year previous, you know.
	Yeah.
	It had just gone up 800%, and he felt it would continue to rise, and what you're saying is kind of online with that.
	You're saying... Yeah, now it's so prevalent, and it's coming from all facts and facets of life.
	You're seeing now people, parents, That are killing children, children killing children.
	You're seeing catastrophes where people walk in and go into a Mormon school and just annihilate youngsters, innocents.
	This is going to escalate to beyond our wildest dreams.
	We are not going to be able to get our head around the kind of carnage that people are going to be doing to others.
	And that's got nothing to do what is planned by those individuals that are fanatics.
	That kind of carnage and that kind of terrorism we all know about.
	We've seen it in the Middle East.
	Right.
	Evelyn, can I ask you this?
	Is it... This increase in evil that we're talking about, is it just something that's... I don't know, naturally occurring in the mind of man?
	Or is there a real... There's a real fight against light and darkness going on.
	Is there a Lucifer?
	Is there really an entity that is promoting evil on Earth?
	Yes.
	Yes, there is, always has been, but because of the shifting in consciousness, because of our level of awareness being expanding, and our capabilities, our psi abilities being enhanced, now the dark forces are in for the fight!
	And the fight is not only for the Earth, and for our souls.
	And so yeah, there will be an increase in evil and carnage around the world.
	Alright, since you hit it so much on the head with that hurricane, let's kind of take it one category at a time.
	Now, the weather, of course, is totally bananas.
	It's completely bananas all over the world.
	In the near term, in the next year or two, if you would look ahead for us, is there any way you can tell what's coming?
	Well, as far as the weather is concerned, the one thing I'm worried about, and I've been getting this a lot, And it's not just here in the state of California, even though I'm here.
	I am picking up devastating fires and I'm talking about tens of thousands of acres on fire, not only here in the state of California, but like I said, in other states.
	But what's bothering me, in fact, I'd even ask your audience and those people, especially in the state of California, that maybe they can help out because I am picking up that a lot of this is going to be done by arson.
	And I keep getting, I'm not seeing them clearly, but I keep getting three or four men and I only see them kneeling down.
	And so I can't tell a lot about them, but they have got plans.
	And they're not just in the state of California.
	They're in other states and they are going to start major fires.
	Do you feel any motive?
	In other words, why?
	I've always wondered.
	It's deliberate.
	It's deliberate.
	Oh no, I've got that.
	But I mean, is it just to get the attention, Evelyn?
	Is it some sick... This is not a sickle.
	This is a planned operation and I don't understand it.
	It's not coming in clear enough.
	I'm getting snapshots.
	I'm getting images.
	And it's just not giving me enough.
	But I've got enough to put it out there now.
	And that's why I'm asking the help of your audience, especially those in the state of California.
	But beside that, I'm also getting an awful lot of flooding.
	And we're going to be dealing with an awful lot of water and an awful lot of landslides.
	And this, again, is not only in the state of California, but across the nation.
	And I'm picking up that there's going to be anywhere between a 5.8 and a 6.2 earthquake in Northern California by the end of summer, early fall.
	All right, and again, babe, everything that you have been saying in the day after tomorrow in your book, The Coming Global Superstorm, that's what's going on.
	You know, as the weather changes now, obviously, in areas where there should be moisture, there is not.
	So that means you're going to get all kinds of perfect conditions for fire.
	And if you've got somebody or some buddies out there, as you just talked about, willing to set them, then you're going to get a lot of fire.
	So you see a year of fire ahead.
	I see the next 18 months.
	Not just the next year ahead, the next 18 months.
	I'm seeing nothing but fires and I don't like it.
	I'm really worried, because like I said, there's a deliberateness to some of them.
	Now, I'll tell you what we talked about also a year ago, which I have gotten so many letters and so many emails from people that heeded when I talked about the economy and what was going to be happening to housing, and especially those who had adjustable-rate mortgages.
	That's right, I remember.
	I spent a lot of time on that, Art.
	I remember.
	And now those people who heeded my warning, thank God they got out.
	They got into a nice low fixed rate mortgage for 30 years.
	They pulled out a little bit more money and they paid off their debts.
	But right now, Art, there is going to be over a million homes that will be lost.
	That will go into foreclosure this year.
	The slump in housing is only just starting.
	There's going to be a major domino effect.
	So it's going to get worse?
	It's going to be much worse.
	And people are going to see their mortgages adjusting anywhere between $500 and $700 more a month, and that is going to cause them to go into foreclosure.
	A lot.
	I mentioned, remember the word I said, recession last year?
	Yes, I do.
	Well, didn't Bernanke, okay, and Greenspan mention recession?
	As opposed to, yes.
	And by the end of this year we will be really talking about it because the slowing of this economy is going to happen and people are going to be being laid off, they're going to be losing their jobs.
	By the thousands.
	And by the time we get into the third quarter, recession will be in full swing.
	And the dollar is going to continue to weaken.
	And inflation is going to continue to rise by year's end.
	Well, of course, the people that will be most immediately affected will be those that are way over their heads anyway.
	A lot of them in California, where of course, you know, things were so overpriced in the first place, and they're hanging in there by a thread.
	If, you know, they add five, seven hundred dollars or more to a mortgage, that's just going to put a lot of people right out of their homes.
	That is correct, and I am saying why over one million homes People are going to be losing their homes, and they're going to be losing their jobs, and this economy is going to be slowing down, and the only thing they're going to be interested in is not the luxuries, but the necessities of life.
	So as far as investment is concerned, let me tell you, if I were you, I would still stick with palladium.
	Gold is still going to be, and has continued to be, a hedge against inflation.
	Silver is still one of the best bets because I feel it will hit at least $25 to $30, so it's going to double.
	So I would definitely get into silver.
	I would stay also into copper, into nickel, and believe it or not, even into sugar.
	Now, there's a lot of people that know that there's been a lot of corn being planted.
	I mean, not since 1944 has there been so much corn being planted.
	So even though the price of corn has gone down as a long-term investment, corn is going to be extremely still a very good investment, Art.
	Alright.
	Back to basic evil for a second.
	I guess since the dawn of man, there's been this fight between good and evil, between God and Lucifer.
	So, we've entered an era, a period of time where the dark side, to use a Star Wars metaphor, is beginning to get the edge, or what?
	It's beginning to realize that because mankind's soul, it's his level of awareness and consciousness is being raised, his viabilities, intuition, is being heightened, that there is now a fight for the soul and for goodness.
	You see, as your consciousness is raised, Art, you get closer to the divine spark within you, which is the divine spark of God.
	The dark forces do not want that, and so they are going to seduce in any way, means, and form they can in order to control you, in order to control and win the soul.
	Father Martin talked about The perfectly possessed.
	Now, those are people who have already made their pact with the dark side, and I guess they're enjoying whatever benefits in the short life they're getting from that.
	But you're talking about the fact that more people around the world are getting a higher level of consciousness, which makes them, I guess, more subject to all kinds of things, including the dark side.
	That is correct.
	They're going to be more tempted Only because their knowledge is being advanced, their awareness, their powers are being increased.
	And as that happens, the dark forces come to seduce.
	That's why always in magic we teach you to remain in balance, because they know that as you gain knowledge you're going to be tested.
	But the average person out there, the layman out there, who is just now having heightened awareness and experiences of different abilities of the mind, does not know that they're going to be tested by evil beings and forces.
	And so they must be made aware.
	They have to be vigil.
	How do you know?
	How does the average person know, Evelyn, when they're beginning to be influenced by these darker forces?
	How do they know?
	Because their mind starts to change, their objectivity focuses more on the materialistic and the control and the power over others, the manipulation of people.
	So their desires and their focus and the things that they want change.
	Right, but that might be something that the average person, Evelyn, wouldn't notice.
	Like, you know, the frog in the slowly heating water.
	They're changing, and they'll be the last ones to notice they're changing, because it's them.
	Yeah, and others around them will catch on much quicker than they will.
	It has to be pointed out.
	But those persons that are in the pursuit of magic and knowledge are well aware.
	So then, would you advise somebody, would you advise... As the opus begins to change, they have to realize that they are now being in touch with evil entities and forces.
	So if your friends start telling you you're changing, listen.
	Yeah.
	Okay, Evelyn, you know, this is scary stuff.
	It really is scary stuff.
	And I think I agree with you that the populace is more open to this than they ever have been before.
	I mean, people have been turning away more and more from religion in these modern days.
	But yet, as you point out, they're turning toward more awareness of their consciousness, and that's exposing them to evil possibilities.
	When we get back, Evelyn, I guess think for a moment how you would advise people to be On the lookout for this happening to them, because as I say, I don't think it's the kind of thing the average person's going to recognize happening to them at all, and we've all got to be aware.
	From the high desert and the great American Southwest, I'm Art Bell.
	My guest is Evelyn Paglini, and we're talking about, well, actually about good And evil.
	The year of fire by the hand of man.
	Evelyn Paglini's calling it.
	She called the hurricanes, she called the floods when we had them, and now she's saying, here it comes, the year of fire, and it'll be by our hand.
	We'll be right back.
	Alright, Evelyn, I have a question for you, and that is, if this is going on, if evil is on that much of an increase all around us, should a person, would you advise a person to actually get into magic as almost a prophylactic against what is otherwise all around us?
	Would that help?
	Very definitely, yes, only because you cannot practice magic without touching the divine power within you and the divine power of God.
	And how do you respond to those people?
	You're fortifying yourself against evil.
	Okay, but how do you respond, Evelyn, to those people who inevitably say, look, magic, perhaps it's real, but it's opening doors that you don't want opened, and who knows what's going to walk through?
	How do you protect yourself against something bad?
	Well, because you're going to be trained in how to do that, how to put up a shield of protection, how to fortify yourself, how to call in angels, how to call in those forces and vibrations that can assist you and to protect you.
	But even though you're not into magic, there's people that have their, let's say, their intuition, okay, their psi abilities being, let's say, increased.
	Those people, they can tell by the process of their mind, if they start to tend and lean toward more lustful things than they ever have before, or coveting things they never did before, or wanting to control people, And manipulate people, then they realize that what they're doing is being seduced by evil entities and forces.
	As I said earlier though, that's something probably the individual wouldn't recognize.
	They would just sort of go along in life and they're changing, so it would have to be somebody near or close to them that would call to their attention the fact they're changing.
	Yes, the layman would have to have somebody close to them if they don't know or they are not paying attention to the process of the change of their mind and where their concentration is.
	So, what do you advise?
	Watch your friends?
	Watch your loved ones?
	If you see these changes taking place, what do you do?
	I would certainly sit down with them, try to find out where their mind has been, where things have been going with them, what possibly has been contributing to their desire to move in that direction.
	Is it something that can be handled within their career or in their relationships?
	Or is it something that they have all of a sudden had an interest in and are starting to pursue and may have gotten in with a group, an organization, a society or tradition That is leading them down the left hand path.
	Have you ever noticed, Evelyn, that some of these horrible things that are done, more and more of these shootings, more robberies.
	I read a story tonight about a robbery and people were killed in the robbery.
	Well, it used to be we had robberies and people weren't killed.
	Sometimes they were, but now they nearly almost always are.
	You know, have you ever noticed, Evelyn, that, you know, after a terrible serial murderer is caught, they'll go around, they'll interview the neighbors, oh, he was such a nice, quiet guy.
	Inevitably, that's what you get.
	Yeah.
	Because those people are not going to be putting out an aura of, let's say, intimidation, or someone that is contemplating robbery and murder.
	Certainly they are not going to be putting out that kind of an energy or an aura, so they're going to be acting like the perfect neighbor, the perfect colleague.
	But what is festering inside is not only evil intention, but the growing force of an energy or an entity that is manipulating and controlling that body.
	Well, I know this is a reach, but Evelyn, also a lot of people who have committed crimes often will say they heard voices telling them to do it.
	Now, it's very difficult to discern between some sort of mental illness, schizophrenia, whatever, and what actually might be evil at work.
	I wonder how we differentiate between them.
	How do we know?
	We can't.
	Unless you have a person that is going to go under psychotherapy, you're not going to be able to find out.
	There's many people that do have a mental illness, but there are many, many others that are indeed hearing the whispers of beings and entities, and they are the ones who are influencing them to commit these acts.
	Right.
	They are taken over, and maybe it is because of what they have done in the past.
	Maybe what they have opened the doors to, possibly by drugs or alcohol.
	I don't know what all of the doorways or the portals that allow these energies and these evil forces in.
	But once in, they really do start to manipulate the bodily functions, the vocal cords, everything of that person.
	I know that you know both sides of magic.
	You've practiced, you openly have admitted on this program, you've practiced magic on the white side or the light side, and you've been on the dark side as a spiritual warrior as well, right?
	That is correct.
	I have to, that's what I was trained for.
	I fight fire with fire.
	What's it like?
	I mean, it's got to be frightening to step over that line and, you know, in a war, I guess.
	It's a war and people get hurt.
	But it must be, even for you, it must be kind of frightening to step into that darker arena.
	It is always frightening.
	It is very, very draining.
	And you must fortify yourself well in advance before you take on something like that.
	Most of the time, I am dealing with individuals who are not really formidable practitioners, and so therefore my energy level is capable of handling it.
	But when I am up against another practitioner, and that practitioner is also utilizing the kind of ceremonial or ritualistic magic that I am into, then yes, Art, there are times that I really do have to worry because naturally I am a human being and my energies can be drained and I never know if I'm going to, you know, meet a person that is going to best me.
	Well, you know, Evelyn, inevitably when we do these programs later in the program we'll open lines as we always do and we'll get calls from people who will say, look, I'm under attack.
	I know I'm under attack.
	Well, maybe sometimes they aren't.
	Maybe sometimes they're not.
	Maybe sometimes they're just putting it together and they've had a string of bad luck and they think they're under attack.
	But other people really are under attack.
	And how much of a chance does an individual who doesn't know a thing about magic have, except that they're being hurt, they're under some kind of attack, by somebody who knows what they're doing?
	They have a very good strong faith.
	Okay, and I don't care what the tradition is.
	They can call upon Jesus Christ.
	They can call upon the gods that they believe in in order to gain some assistance, maybe some relief.
	But if they are up against someone who is really under psychic attack or a practitioner who has placed a curse or a spell on them, then they need another person who knows what to do in order to break Well, yeah, it can be.
	Depending on who the person is that's performing it.
	they are in for it. A spell and a curse, they're synonyms, same thing? Well yeah it
	can be depending on who the person is that's performing it.
	They can be exchanged yeah. But a curse normally honey can be
	generational where a spell normally will only last a particular length
	of time.
	Exactly what I was going to ask.
	Yeah.
	So you can have a curse put on you that would literally last your entire lifetime and maybe even into the next generation?
	Generational, yeah.
	Two, three, four hundred years it can last, not just a couple hundred.
	My God.
	Yeah.
	But again, that has to be a very powerful practitioner or when someone is at the moment of death, if they place a curse with all of that energy and all of that focus at that last moment, that curse is very difficult to break and can last for generations.
	So there is an additional power associated with that moment of death?
	Oh yes.
	Oh very definitely.
	It comes from the bowels and the depths of them.
	That is one dangerous curse you never want to face.
	A person with their last breath that curses you.
	Right.
	How much of this is there going on in the world, Evan?
	I know there's a lot of unintentional stuff going on, but I mean, the learned kind of stuff that you're talking about right now, how prevalent is it really in this world?
	The last 10 or 15 years, Art, the prevalency has gained tremendously.
	Maybe because people are out there searching, a lot of people wanting to find who they are, what they are, why they're here.
	And because they're having experiences that they don't understand, like premonition, precognition, all of the other psi abilities that are out there.
	And they don't know where to go.
	And so I think that's what's happening.
	Okay, there's another one.
	Premonition, precognition.
	Synonyms, are they the same thing, or are they different?
	No, they're very different.
	In fact, the other week, I believe, you had somebody was talking about premonition.
	And, you know, everybody has the ability to have premonitions.
	I mean, it's not something that, you know, belongs into only the few and the talented.
	Premonitions are like intuitions, only they're more detailed, not as detailed as you would
	like them to be.
	But they give you enough information where very definitely it can help you.
	There are so many people that I have heard to have come to like a stoplight and the light turns green and something tells them not to go.
	And they don't.
	And all of a sudden a truck or a car comes shooting by and they would have been in that accident.
	Or not to take that plane or that train.
	Or not to buy that piece of property.
	Those are all premonitions or something of impending doom.
	Or something that is going to happen.
	They don't get all of it.
	They get pieces, snapshots of it, so they have to analyze it.
	But that definitely is what we call premonition.
	Okay?
	The ability to know that something is going to happen, and you may get glimpses of the arena that it's in, but not all of the detail.
	But now, precognition is what you had, Art.
	And that's what you were talking about.
	Right.
	That's totally different.
	That's not hearing a little voice.
	That's not getting a glimpse.
	That's not having to analyze what the hell it is.
	No, this was like getting hit on the head with a hammer.
	Absolutely.
	That is knowing beyond a shadow of a doubt the entire event.
	That's true.
	That's right.
	That's precognition.
	Very different.
	There is no... Pardon me?
	Premonition is a sort of a, that would be the right word, a more subtle warning.
	Subtle warning, low end of prophecy, not with a lot of detail.
	Precognition is... You got it all.
	Yeah.
	It's knowing.
	There is no doubt.
	Evelyn, is there any way to develop that?
	Because I had no way of knowing it was coming, it's never happened since, and I've never Well actually, I've sort of opened, because it did happen, a couple times I tried to open myself to something like that again.
	It's never happened.
	But it will.
	Because see, the more, and even though you've talked about it now tonight and last week, the more you talk about it, the more you're giving your mind permission to give you more.
	It's the same thing when you're having premonitions and you start writing them down and you see that they're coming true.
	When you keep a journal like that, Psychologically and subconsciously, you're giving yourself what we call in hypnosis a post-hypnotic suggestion, so that it gives your mind the permission to give you more.
	In other words, you're not afraid.
	Right.
	So we're going to give you more of it.
	And if your audience would go to my website, mysticalblend.com, there is in the instructional material, there is a course called Mind Dynamics or Mind Development.
	And in there, that is a course that will teach you to improve your psi abilities, to be able to increase that which is premonition intuition, as well as to be able to eventually go into inanimate objects, as well as... Wait a minute, inanimate objects?
	Oh yes!
	What's that all about?
	Well, what you're doing is you have four brainwave frequencies, beta, alpha, theta, delta.
	And when you are developing the mind, what you're doing is you're going into the alpha brainwaves, and that is your creativity and your imagination.
	And once you are honing that, you have the ability to be able to put your essence into an animate or an inanimate object.
	And to be able to understand it from the inside out, whether it be an animal or whether it be a piece of wood.
	Now there is another part of that and that is called psychometry.
	There are people out there, in fact I believe you interviewed a man that wrote a book called Voices in Stone.
	Right.
	And this was the ability to be able to pick up an object And to be able to tune into that object and have that object give you impressions or images and scenes of either the person who owned the object, the maker of the object, or what happened in the land or the circumference of where this object was found.
	That means though, Evelyn, that an object, in some way, stores information.
	Yes, and it can talk to you.
	That's why they have picked up the rocks of Pompeii and actually heard the screams and seen the images.
	And that is why there are so many times mediums will use that, as I have, in missing person and murder cases.
	Because they will pick up the objects of the victim.
	And they will be able to perceive images and scenes of what was happening to that victim at that time.
	I don't know if I would want that ability.
	You know, I'm sure, Evelyn, that's a two-edged sword, isn't it?
	Yeah, it is.
	That's why I got away from getting involved with missing person and murder cases.
	Too many with the children, in fact.
	Boy, you're not the first psychic to say that to me.
	Doing missing children, most of all... Tears your guts out.
	That's what I've been told by many.
	When I did a case in Chicago, It was when I walked into the bedroom and I opened up a small box and there was the baby teeth of this boy in it.
	And I picked up the teeth and I held it in my hands.
	And that's when I started to see the images.
	This young boy who they thought had run away was indeed kidnapped and was killed.
	And from the images I saw, I drew One of the individuals who led to the other people who were the perpetrators of the crime and also led to the body of where the boy was buried.
	But it was psychometry that I used.
	And so, yeah, when I dealt with the Chicago Police Force for quite some time in missing persons, and especially in the children that were missing, that's what I used was psychometry.
	But after a couple of years, Enough.
	I couldn't do it anymore.
	Evelyn, it seems like crimes against our children, uh, pedophilia is on the rise.
	I'm seeing so damn many stories.
	That's what I'm saying.
	To me, that seems purely evil.
	Any attack against our children is just so damn evil.
	And that's what I'm getting at.
	I'm getting more of it on the rise.
	I'm getting more children that are going to be harmed by not only other children, by adults.
	And it's bothering me.
	I can understand that.
	Because there's nothing I can do.
	There's nothing I can do to stop it.
	I don't know what to do about it.
	Except put out a warning.
	Once they start down this road of being interested in children, there are many mental health professionals that say there is no way to stop them.
	They will continue to do it again and again and again and again.
	And if you keep them in jail for 10 years and let them out, or 20 years and let them out, they will do it again?
	Yes, they will.
	There's got to be something that our sane society can do to address this, because the criminal justice system just simply can't handle it, Evelyn.
	It can't handle the reality of somebody who will continue to do their crime again and again and again, and that crime is against our children.
	There's got to be a way to handle it.
	Well, I hope you're going to have some experts on as guests that will give us some insight.
	All right.
	My guest is a witch.
	She practices magic.
	We'll talk about that.
	We'll talk about, as a matter of fact, we're going to talk about remote influencing, something remote viewers will not or refuse for the most part to talk about.
	That's influencing the mind of another from the high deserts.
	I'm Art Bell.
	My guest is Evelyn Paglini, and if you want to dismiss what you're hearing this morning, as so much bonk, you go right ahead.
	It's very easy to dismiss that which you don't understand.
	But if you want to look back at the record of what Evelyn Paglini has said in years past on this program, I don't think you could so easily dismiss anything at all.
	We'll be right back.
	I have had occasion to interview most, I think, if not all of the persons who are involved in the CIA remote viewing program, and I ask them all about remote influencing, and that actually is getting into the mind of somebody else, for example, and causing them to have a thought or causing them to actually do something.
	It's not possible, and talk about it in hushed tones, if at all.
	Evelyn, remote influencing, yes?
	No?
	Yes, very much so.
	And I have great respect for those people who are proficient in remote viewing and all of the protocols that they go through in order for them to capture that information.
	But remote influencing has been going on since the beginning of time.
	That person who has The capacity to focus their mind.
	And Art, you have done, on your show, with your audience, remote healing and remote influencing.
	We have, yes.
	The remote healing was done with Danyan Brinkley, with Richard Hoagland, and with Whitley Strieber's wife.
	And so anytime you talk to a remote viewer and he wants to say it's a no-no, You can, with your audience and good conscience, tell them about your experiments.
	And as far as remote influencing, don't you think that using the forces of nature and putting rain where drought was is not influencing?
	It is, yes.
	And so how can you say that there is no such thing as remote influencing?
	You can, with the power of the millions of minds that you were directing, Proved it!
	Now take it into magic, Art.
	One person influencing the mind of another's actions, the mind of another's thinking, the process of what they do, or controlling their bodily functions' vocal cords.
	Yeah, but you know, if all of that is possible, Evelyn, Then if you combine that with a move toward evil, we're in real trouble.
	Yes.
	That's why I wanted to bring it up.
	Because that process is what's going on.
	More and more people are using the power of their mind without even the discipline that is necessary.
	And they are finding results and successes in the manipulation of others, in the influencing of others.
	With remote influencing, the concentration of the mind like a laser beam for a person to react the way you are conditioning them to by your influencing.
	Evelyn, is there any way an individual can understand that they are being influenced by others, or will you always believe, it's my idea, it's my emotion, it's my drive, that's what I want to do.
	If the practitioner's good enough, you'll never know.
	You're not supposed to, that's the idea.
	You're the puppet.
	This is a dangerous world we're in.
	Yes, and it's becoming more dangerous as our abilities increase.
	Because there will be those out there who will search people with this kind of talent out and draw them into their traditions and societies, and those have hidden agendas.
	That brings us to something else I want to ask you about, Evelyn.
	We're involved in a war right now.
	We're facing the possibility of an expanding war, perhaps into Iran.
	I have no idea, but we're getting vibrations of it.
	On a larger level, at a world level, where are we headed?
	Like I said, this is the cleansing and the purging of Earth.
	It will be by any means possible.
	War, fire, volcanic eruption, earthquake, tidal waves.
	Flooding, you name it, we are going to have it in the next years to come.
	That's where we're headed.
	And so people have to prepare.
	They have to get the edge on the future.
	They have to be able to control their own destiny.
	Because in turn, if controlling their own, they can't control the world.
	I'm going to lighten it up a little bit for a second, we'll come back to all this, but I've got an email ahead of your appearance from Bill in Tuckerton, New Jersey, and I want to read this to you and get your reaction, alright?
	Yes.
	Dear Art, while I'm not a practitioner of the craft, I'm one of those members of the Coast audience that thinks Dr. Paglini is a fascinating guest.
	I went to her website and saw that she's scheduled to appear with you this weekend.
	When other Coast guests like Raymond Grace and Paul H. Smith talk about dowsing, they suggest that we're tapping into our own and or a universal consciousness.
	Based on that explanation, dowsing sounds inherently safe.
	The mechanics, using a pointing device, a pendulum, some type of charter map, sounds a lot like using a Ouija board to me.
	I recognize that Ouija boards usually require two people to operate, and dowsing is done by one individual, but similarities exist.
	Like you Art, I think Ouija boards are very dangerous.
	I'm not sure about dowsing.
	Since I know you two are interested in the subject of Ouija boards, I was hoping you'd ask Evelyn the following questions.
	One, Well, first of all, I love dowsing.
	dowsing and using a Ouija board? Two, could a supernatural entity corrupt or
	otherwise subvert the dowsing process to cause problems?
	And three, are there other dangers inherent to dowsing? And lastly, in her opinion, is
	dowsing something to stay away from? Well, first of all, I love dowsing. No, it
	is not something to stay away from. I would have to say it would be extremely rare,
	if at all, where any dark forces or entities would be possessive of it or
	inherit in it.
	And as far as the pendulum, that is also something that is a means to open up to the portal of the subconscious mind.
	Also, there are those people who are mediums that are able to, let's say, tune in to or acquire the information from the Akashic Records by doing so.
	But as far as the Ouija Board is concerned, I would say most people I would suggest should stay away from it, because that is a portal to open up the door to a low-entity spirit or being, and you may get more than you bargained for.
	That's something I would stay away from.
	As far as the plushette, that is another way and form of communication or going into an altered state of consciousness and receiving information and that is an extremely excellent way of communication or divination.
	A plushette?
	Yes.
	It's like a plastic on casters where there is a pencil that is placed in the middle.
	The hand rests upon the casters.
	And automatic writing or automatic drawing is done and is usually being done by the communication of spirits or through spirits.
	I've got to tell you a story, Evelyn, very quickly about Ramona that I don't think you ever heard and I'm pretty darn sure the audience never heard.
	Many years ago, 15, 16 years ago, when we decided we were going to move to Pahrump We came out looking for property, Evelyn, and I'm a ham radio operator, so I like high-up places, and we took a look at this property just off Highway 160, and boy, it was incredible!
	It overlooked all of Pahrump, and I said, this has got to be it!
	This has got to be it!
	Look at this view!
	And so, we did negotiation for that property, and in the process of that negotiation, We wondered about water, and Ramona?
	Got out a dowsing, she made a dowsing rod, and she found a place, this was a very rocky area, kind of way high up, it was a rocky area, and she made this X way down in the lower left-hand area of this property, and she said, there's where the water is.
	And anyway, it turned out it was in Clark County, and there were all kinds of regulations and stuff, and we ended up not getting the property.
	Years went by and the property didn't develop for the same reasons that I didn't get it.
	But then something changed.
	It turned out that it could develop.
	Well, of course, being on the highway, we would pass it every day coming and going to Las Vegas and such.
	And we watched them drill for water when they were developing this property, this piece, single piece property.
	Twice they drilled and missed.
	They didn't get it.
	And finally, when they did get it, My God, Evelyn, it was exactly... Ramona had drawn an X in the ground, and it was exactly where she had put the X. That's where they drilled and finally had hit water.
	Isn't that fantastic?
	And it shows that dowsing works.
	It does work.
	How does it work?
	Oh, Art, I think what you're doing is, again, you're tapping into the divine spark within you and the divine consciousness.
	And you're tuning into nature and the elements and it's talking to you.
	That's why when they go into meditation, they talk about going into the oneness of nature, becoming one with all things so that you are in tune.
	And so therefore you're picking up the vibration and the forces that are emitted from the ground, telling you here is the element of water.
	Well, I'll never forget it.
	It's amazing and it does work.
	And so for people who think all this stuff just is silliness and doesn't work, you're just plain wrong.
	It absolutely does work.
	And the fact that that works and other things work I guess it means you ought to listen to this lady because she knows what she's talking about.
	So, anyway, you think the world at large is headed sliding into an evil period between now and 2012, coming back to all of this mess?
	Yes, I feel that there is a fight between good and evil and that's why I'd like to level the playing field by getting more and more people in touch with nature and the elements, in tune with what they are feeling As far as their intuition, as far as premonitions that they are feeling and getting.
	And so once they start listening and keeping a journal, as I said, it gives permission for the mind to give them more and they're going to need it with what's coming down the pike.
	This way they know when to move.
	They know when to make a change.
	It will save their life.
	Wow.
	And maybe the lives of many others.
	So, to begin to get into this, I mean, even if somebody is, and there are many, many very religious people in my audience, Evelyn, and they hesitate, you know, on this type of thing.
	You mentioned the word magic, natural magic, whatever you want to call it to make it sound better.
	If you use the word magic in it, the religious folks are going to be saying, oh no, I'll stay a thousand miles away from that, and so how do you address them?
	The only thing I can say is It is nature, it is the elements, and that which has been given to us by God for us to use as tools to assist us in growing and developing.
	And so therefore they must pursue it.
	They're the ones that are going to see the results.
	They're not going to be joining a group or a society or a coven, or they're going to be subjugated, or they're going to have to be putting up with a high priest or a high priestess.
	These are solitary practitioners who are going to learn to get the edge on their future that is going to give them a change for the better in their life, to change their family and their friends for the better.
	And so they have control of it.
	So you could say to the religions out there that they're not going to go sliding in toward the devil and quite the opposite from your point of view, right?
	Absolutely the opposite.
	And they are in control every step of the way.
	Can I give out a couple of my phone numbers?
	Of course you can.
	For those people who don't have a computer and if they would like to have a free catalog, if they can call either 818-985- 9 9 3 5 or 8 1 8 4 0 7 1 9 5 1 and they can even start calling tomorrow because I'm going to have some people there.
	I will be more than happy to send them out a free catalog or try to answer some of their questions if they have them.
	Okay, so these are numbers people can call basically during the day.
	They shouldn't call them right now?
	Is that the deal?
	No, not this evening, but tomorrow and all through the week they can certainly call.
	And for those people who don't have a computer, if you would like to have one of our free catalogs, which has not only my classes in it, but a lot of the rituals I'd like to get involved with, especially one tonight.
	And that would be Mystical Blend at P.O.
	Box.
	57932 in Sherman Oaks, California, 91413.
	And the reason why I wanted to talk about some of the rituals that they could use, because we were talking about remote influencing, and I'd like people to learn how to influence in their lives.
	Some of the rituals, if they went to mysticalblend.com or in my catalog, is like health and well-being, and let's say legal injustice, or let's say even separation and breakup.
	But let's take health and well-being.
	For those people who have maladies and disorders and dysfunctions, There is a ritual that they can do using remote influencing, using an effigy, an image candle representative of themselves, where they can accelerate the healing process or they can help destroy that malfunction or that disorder that is causing them the illness.
	And so that is only one specific meditation visualization ritual where influencing, okay, can be done on a remote basis for another as well as for yourself.
	And there are out there in this audience of yours, some of my clients, especially one that I'd really like to give kudos to.
	There is a package up there called Legal Injustice Art and In the coming years, there's going to be an awful lot of problems that are going to have to be faced by people having court cases, just child custody battles and lawsuits.
	And there's one person out there that I really wanted to give kudos to because she took on the system and use the legal and justice ritual.
	And I want you to know that this is a mother that fought for a child and beat the legal system.
	It took her months, but one by one, she got these charges broken down and dismissed.
	And she did the rituals of legal injustice.
	Using rituals?
	Yes.
	Because you see, Art, if you go to my website and you click on ritual packages and look at legal injustice, you're going to see what's in that package.
	And anybody out there can get this in any metaphysical store.
	Alright, so just go up there, you can find out what all you need.
	Go to any metaphysical store and get it.
	But understand the premise behind it, if I may?
	With your permission?
	Yes, yes.
	Those that are of the green image candles represent you in your gender and your attorney in that person's gender.
	And those that are in the black image candles naturally are going to represent the opposition, that person that is bringing the complaint against you.
	The pink image candle is going to be in the gender of the judge.
	And so therefore, naturally, you would have to know the names and the genders of these individuals.
	In that package or out there, you're going to be purchasing two specific essential oils.
	That have a vibration and a force and an energy that is going to influence what you want to have as a result.
	The justice oil is what you're going to be using on the green image candles as well as on the judge because the influence that you want is one that is going to be compatible, okay, between the judge and the attorney that is your representative.
	The confusion oil is what you're going to be placing on the black image candles and the gender of the opposition.
	Right.
	And their lead attorney.
	Because what you want is to have confusion when the presentation is made to the judge by the opposition.
	Absolutely.
	And so therefore, all the mistakes, and believe me, mistakes had been made.
	Okay?
	The presentation was done incorrectly.
	The I's and the T's were not crossed and dotted.
	And so therefore, the judge in response to the presentation of the opposition was not favorable.
	In fact, was in disgust.
	And yet when the presentation was made by you to be successful by your attorney, that was compatible.
	And so what you're doing is directing and influencing not only the emotion of the receptivity and perception of the judge, But also you are increasing the presentation of your success legal attorney and having the mistakes made and the judge not being acceptable to anything that is said and done and presented by the opposition.
	Alright, so we might sum up by saying a little oil for the justice system.
	Yeah, but be careful.
	Make sure that you have justice on your side because it'll backfire.
	Alright, I'm Art Bell.
	We'll be right back.
	My guess is we don't change too many minds.
	There's a lot of people in the audience who know magic works, and then there's another group out there who thinks it's just so much bunk, and they probably aren't going to change their mind.
	I suppose we'll make a difference at the periphery, perhaps, you know, out at the edges a little bit.
	My guest is Dr. Evelyn Paglini, and her website, that would be the place to go if you have a computer.
	At www.mysticalblend.com.
	M-Y-S-T-I-C-A-L-B-L-E-N-D dot com.
	Now, there are potions, and there are rituals, and there are instructions, and it's all up there.
	Otherwise, we'll get those numbers out to you again, so get a paper and a pencil handy.
	This woman knows what she's talking about.
	We'll be right back.
	It's such a basic question and it never occurred to me.
	It's been so long since we've had Evelyn on the air with us.
	Dale in Hawaii asks simply, please ask Evelyn, what exactly is magic?
	Magic is the uses of energies, vibrations and forces and the manipulation of those in order to get a result.
	So in other words, and that's I guess why they call it practical magic, huh?
	Yeah, you're using nature and the elements, which is the energies and forces and vibrations of the universe, and you're manipulating and controlling them.
	You are bending them to your will, and you're focusing them in order to obtain a desired result.
	And there's nothing unnatural or ungodly about using these forces, is there?
	No!
	They were created by God!
	Yeah, they can be used for, I guess, good or bad.
	Right, they have a double-edged sword, naturally.
	There is always a positive and a negative.
	And can I take a moment?
	I want to congratulate you, Mr. Bell, on the Lifetime Achievement Award you received.
	Oh, thank you.
	And it was ten years ago that you set a precedent You had the courage to push the envelope, because no one had ever talked about witchcraft, magic, and the supernatural before, let alone for five hours.
	I know.
	And so I want to thank you, and I think your audience also would like to thank you, because you have increased their level of awareness.
	You've given them an opportunity to gain knowledge they would never, ever know.
	And so they're a lot smarter out there than the average person.
	Yeah, there are a lot of people.
	I guess, um, how many people have come to you, uh, complete novices and interested and then gone ahead and become, well, become involved in the craft?
	I would have to say thousands.
	And I thank you for it.
	I have a lot of spiritual warriors out there that have leveled the playing field.
	Not only because they've helped themselves and their family and their friends, but I'm talking about have taken on evil.
	Yes.
	That's quite a job and apparently quite a lot of evil out there right now to be taking on.
	There's a lot of people out there that use magic and have manipulated people or caused them harm under psychic attack, okay, where things have gone wrong in their lives and they don't know how to defend themselves and now people are learning how to put up a defense, how to cleanse an environment, how to block and stop Absolutely.
	And they don't have to become a proficient practitioner.
	We're not talking about high magic.
	We're not talking about ceremonial or ritualistic magic.
	that anybody can protect themselves or at least set up the barriers.
	Absolutely.
	And they don't have to become a proficient practitioner.
	We're not talking about high magic.
	We're not talking about ceremonial or ritualistic magic.
	When you're dealing in that kind of magic, now we're talking in a totally different discipline.
	But the magic that I'm talking about, the natural magic out there for every average
	person, that can be handled very easily and they can see the results and they can go on
	in order to help themselves.
	And that's what I want to do is give them the edge.
	Okay, and that's how you're addressing the general audience.
	Take us for a moment into This higher world, Evelyn, into demonology, into conjuring of demons and other supernatural beings.
	Well, when you're going to use ceremonial or ritualistic magic, now you're talking about the magnet, the practitioner, the magician, the shaman, the voodoo priest.
	These are those individuals who have years of discipline behind them.
	They have the traditions of their beliefs and societies behind them, and they conjure, they evoke, they call upon the spirits and the entities and the beings and the forces, as well as the elements, to enhance their power, to gain the knowledge and the wisdom not only of the ancients, but to gain the knowledge and the wisdom of the future.
	And so this is something that is done and some of these rituals take three, six or nine days in order to perform.
	It takes upon years for them to gather the herbs.
	And the stones and the jewels to design on virgin parchment the sigils and the seals and the names and words of power in order to protect themselves as they evoke these forces and these beings and these entities.
	And as far as creating a familiar or a thought form, well that's something entirely different.
	A familiar as in an animal, right?
	A familiar can and usually is in the creation of an animal, and that you would send out to do your bidding.
	Now, it can be to warn an individual, it can be to protect, it can be to spy, meaning to gather information, and it also can be done to harm.
	But yes, In ceremonial and ritualistic magic, you create a thought form, you infuse it with the life force, you implant it into the image or the shape of an animal or a being, and then you send it out to do your bidding.
	Could I, for the sake of an analogy, compare you, for example, to a lawyer?
	In other words, the average person can, I suppose, deal with things up to a certain level, but at a certain level, if you need the help of an attorney, somebody who really knows what they're doing, somebody who can practice at the higher levels, then Would I come to you as I would come to a lawyer, a professional?
	You have to come to an expert, yeah.
	You have to come to a person that knows what they're dealing with.
	Is it voodoo?
	Is it sentria?
	Is it satanism?
	Is it witchcraft?
	Okay, what are they using?
	What is their determination?
	What are they going after?
	And so, you have to have a practitioner to fight a practitioner.
	All those things you named, they're all really using the same forces of nature, natural forces of nature, and maybe I guess some unnatural in some ways.
	Correct.
	You have a basic foundation no matter what the tradition is.
	So, when these people come to you, Evelyn, how do you determine who you help and who you should not help?
	And I'm sure there are many that come to you that you should not help.
	Or, like a lawyer, do you take on almost every case?
	What I normally do, Art, is the person will give me the background and the situation in which they have found themselves in.
	And I make a determination if they have a bonafide practitioner or just a person who is a spellcaster.
	And therefore, if it is a person that is a spellcaster, I normally will invite the person to learn how to do a psychic self-defense and a cleansing and protection because the knowledge once gained You will know forever.
	You're not going and hiring somebody else to do it for you and wishing to God they do it and do it right.
	And so normally I will try to teach another and give the power to them.
	If they have come across a group or an individual that is a practitioner, well then now you gotta take out the big guns.
	And so that's an entirely different matter.
	That's when you virtually go to war.
	Correct.
	Have you always won these wars, Evelyn, or have there been instances in your life, which has been a long and good one, when you have not won?
	I won't say that I have not won.
	I think I would have to say that the time was not enough.
	I had one where, this one case, the only thing I was able to do was to get a length of time In order for things that were happening within that home to cease and exist.
	But other than that, no, I have not been beaten.
	Thank God.
	Okay.
	Is communication with the dead possible?
	You know, yes it is, and it's called necromancy.
	You can And there are many very, very astute practitioners out there, and I'm talking those that are into ritualistic and ceremonial magic, where they really are doing necromancy.
	When they're doing necromancy that way, babe, they are going to go after the objects of the dead.
	They will even go after the corpses of the dead if they can get it, or the skin, or the hair, or the fingernail pairings of the dead.
	They will also, if they can, raise the coffin of a deceased individual and take the nails out of the coffin because those are highly sought after.
	Okay, if you want to destroy an enemy, get the nails out of the coffin of a dead person.
	There are many different ways of being able to do that.
	One is to have an effigy of your enemy.
	And to drive those nails into that effigy and that definitely will cause that person a lot of problems.
	Another is to drive the nail into the footstep of an enemy.
	Good Lord.
	You know, Evelyn, I can see how the police would be interested and would come to somebody like you, because they, whether or not they believe in this sort of thing, they inevitably run into cases where ritualistic magic of some sort or another has been used, and that would Whether or not they believe, it would lead them to somebody with the knowledge that you have, and it has, right?
	Yes, it has, and I help determine what sect or society these people belong to by the use of the tools and by the rituals and the sigils and symbols that they leave behind.
	And you're saying there's more and more of this now happening in the world?
	Yes, and even demonology.
	Because, now you want to really talk about high magic.
	This is normally done, Art, by formidable practitioners and magicians and shamans.
	And what they use are the Grimories.
	Like the Lemigod.
	Or the Great Grimorie.
	Okay?
	Or the lesser or greater Key of Solomon.
	Or the, uh, the magic of Abra-Melon the Mage.
	This demonology is calling upon supernatural beings, that which has never held human form.
	These are the hierarchy of demons.
	They will not only give you knowledge and treasure and power and even immortality, and they will attempt to seduce you in any which way they can.
	They will also try to get you to step out of the circle, and if you do so, you are found with every bone in your body broken.
	But they seek knowledge, and that is why they get into demonology.
	They want the power over man.
	They want the control over mankind, and they want control over the forces, and the beings, and the gods of the universe.
	And that is why some of these practitioners Go into demonology.
	And this is a very, very dangerous thing because they draw a circle and then they draw a pentagram and a hexagram to evoke a demon or a supernatural being.
	And within this circle, they place the names of the gods and the powers and the seals and the sigils to protect them and to protect them from the forces that they are evoking.
	It takes many years to collect, like I said before, all of the herbs and stones and jewels that they need to perform these rituals, as well as to embroider on their robes the seals and the power sigils and names of these gods.
	Boy, this is a world that I wasn't even aware of.
	Not this kind of world that you're talking about.
	This is my world!
	Yeah.
	And this has been your whole life.
	This has been, if I recall correctly, this was generationally passed on to you, wasn't it?
	That is correct.
	I am a Genesean, and I was raised in the practice of the occult.
	I was put into the evocation and summation of beings and spirits because I was trained as a spiritual warrior.
	And when I was dealing with those practitioners of traditions, I had to have The ability to have forces under my control to fight what I was facing.
	This is a world that for most people is frightening?
	Should be!
	It's frightening to me!
	These beings want nothing more when you are calling upon them and they are giving you this wisdom and this knowledge and this power.
	You must make an offering Or you must make a sacrifice, and sometimes it becomes a blood sacrifice.
	And from that point, the last thing they want from you is to walk the land in human form.
	You're talking about beings that most people never want to encounter.
	Yeah.
	I'm one of those people that would rather not encounter one of And yet there are those who have dedicated their lives to the practice of demonology to gain this kind of power and knowledge.
	There are societies out there that are very old that we, that you have had guests on talking about, that do this kind of ritual ceremonial magic, calling upon these beings and these entities in order for them to succeed in whatever business venture Okay, they have going, whether it is the control of the world or not.
	And I wonder how many of our very, very successful businesses have something like this behind them.
	You'd be surprised.
	I would.
	You'd be surprised.
	The occult is and always has been for the elite, for the successful, for the powerful.
	Because again, it is that lust of control.
	The power of control, the manipulation of people is their desire, and it is only the elite that have that desire, because they are the ones who do the controlling.
	And what does that do to their soul, Evelyn?
	You know as I know what it does to their soul.
	But they have already accepted that.
	And some even have been promised a form of immortality.
	There is a ritual called the transmigration of the soul, and there are those out there who truly believe it!
	Here's what's puzzled me and puzzles me now, Evelyn.
	If you come to embrace some of the things that you're talking about at the high end here, That means that you believe, you have, it is your firm conviction that all of this is real, and if all of this is real, then that means you understand that you're bargaining away your soul, your very soul, your immortal soul, for
	I don't know, for something short in this life.
	No, it's not short.
	That's what you don't understand.
	Maybe I don't.
	When you are dealing with these supernatural beings, they can give you the ability of immortality and the transmigration of the soul.
	And so, therefore, you become as a god.
	That is why they are seeking the knowledge of these beings.
	Because they are giving them the wisdom of the ancients.
	They are opening up the portals to knowledge that we have no comprehension of.
	That sounds like a false promise, though.
	Well, to them, they truly believe it.
	Well, obviously they do.
	I mean, they essentially, uh, whether they literally do it or not, sign on the dotted line, so...
	They're signing their soul away.
	It's just so hard for me to understand or embrace the idea.
	But they see the results in the physical, materialistic world.
	And then when they are in the abstract world, they are now conversing, okay, with beings and entities and watching the manipulation at long distance that they can perform.
	The feats that they have embraced blows their minds and makes them believe.
	Because these beings have that kind of power.
	Boy.
	All right, Evelyn.
	Hold tight right there.
	This just blows me away.
	The whole thing blows me away.
	But apparently there's much more to it than I can even imagine.
	Because I always thought, to understand that evil can do something for you in this world, or even in the transmigration of the soul, eventually, you know, the consequences close in, but maybe that's Maybe that's just my way of thinking.
	Anyway, listen, we're going to open up the phone lines and at this point I'm really glad to be doing that and give you an opportunity to ask Evelyn anything you would like.
	From the High Desert, I'm Art Bell.
	I definitely live among the creatures of the night.
	There's no question about that.
	My guest is Evelyn, Dr. Evelyn Paglini.
	Her website is www.mysticalblend.com.
	That's M-Y-S-T-I-C-A-L-B-L-E-N-D dot com.
	But, if you don't have a computer and want to be in touch, in a moment, before we go to the phones, we'll give out the numbers once more, so have a pen and pencil ready.
	We'll be right back.
	Alright, Evelyn, let's get those phone numbers out right here at the beginning.
	Alright, the phone number is 818-985-9935 or 818-407-1951.
	Good.
	818-985-9935 or 818-407-1951.
	Good.
	All right.
	Nancy from New York, New York, in the city, asks Evelyn, toward the last of this last
	hour, Why does Evelyn sound like she's saying there's no downside potentially to selling one's soul?
	Is she endorsing it?
	What about justice?
	Goodness!
	Oh no, I'm not endorsing it.
	What I was talking about is that person who really is into demonology.
	They're a different mindset because they are a magician or a practitioner who has disciplined for decades in order to As I said, gain knowledge from these supernatural beings, and they really believe that they are going to have all, including immortality.
	But I certainly do not adhere to it.
	Not at all.
	All right.
	Here we go.
	Barbara in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania.
	You're on with Evelyn.
	Hi, Art.
	Hi, Evelyn.
	Hi.
	It's my birthday, so this is a real treat.
	Well, happy birthday.
	Thank you.
	Is there a way to defeat an enemy?
	Let's say an enemy has an image of me and there's thick nails in it.
	How do I defeat it?
	Well, I'll tell you.
	If you cannot get, okay, an object of theirs, meaning, you know, something that belongs to them, or a picture of them, then what you must do to defeat them is to do a psychic self-defense or cleansing of yourself.
	Meaning you're going to remove that which has been placed upon you, and like a mirror or a boomerang, you're going to send it back to the sender.
	Okay.
	And so if you'll go to my website, mysticalblend.com, look under ritual packages for psychic self-defense.
	That's what you need.
	So what you're going to do is send it right back, honey.
	Mirrors?
	Yeah.
	Mirrors?
	It's like a mirror.
	It's like a boomerang.
	In other words, anything being sent to you is mirrored or reflected back to them.
	Okay, what is it about mirrors, Evelyn?
	There's something about mirrors, right?
	Oh, definitely.
	In fact, I have a class up there called Mirror Magic that is absolutely phenomenon.
	It is the way in which you can defend yourself from any spirit or entity.
	As well as the ability of scrying, as well as the ability of being able to go into past lives to see your reincarnation.
	It is a portal or a doorway in order for you to open up to let spirits or forces or energies in.
	Mirror magic is just phenomenal and it's very ancient.
	Alright, here comes Wade in Kentucky.
	You're on with Evelyn Paglini.
	Oh, hi Art.
	Hi, everyone.
	How are y'all doing tonight?
	That's good.
	My question is kind of a general question, but how do you guys view movies and motion pictures and Hollywood's portrayal of magic to actual magic?
	Well, I'll tell you, lately, okay, and I'll say some of the television shows and some of the movies are giving more precise information.
	There is an awful lot to magic that people do not recognize, and so I think they're table-spooning it.
	Now, yes, there are times that they exaggerate, but believe me, there is more than meets the eye out there.
	Evelyn, have you ever been asked to consult for television?
	Yes, I have.
	You have?
	Yes.
	I thought so.
	Alright, here comes Billy in Iowa.
	Billy, you're on with Evelyn.
	Uh, good morning.
	Um, hi.
	I had called you last year and talked to you about this.
	Um, I deliver newspapers and I had a Grim Reaper, the Grim Reaper, grab me.
	Okay, he put his hand on my shoulder and all I could see was his long finger.
	He had on a black cloak, he must have stood eight feet tall, and he leaned over and he was looking at me, but I could not see his face.
	I remember that call.
	Okay.
	And when he did this, it's like, after I sat and thought about it, I was like, I could feel the energy coming from him.
	But also, after he had grabbed me like that, the whole left side of my body had tingled for about 30 minutes afterwards.
	And it's like, I can't get past this.
	And it's like, I'm just wondering what, what does it represent?
	I mean, is, is the Grim Reaper a devil?
	Is he a demon?
	What is he?
	Well, if it was the real Grim Reaper, that is the person who is either giving you a warning of death to come.
	It may not also be you.
	It could be a family member or somebody that is close to you.
	If you felt real drained of energy, okay, after he removed his hands from your shoulder, then what he was doing was marking you.
	In other words, you're a sensitive.
	And so therefore, You probably get an awful lot of intuition and premonitions of things to come.
	Yes.
	Uh-huh.
	That's why you're marked, honey.
	In other words, that's one that they will watch you.
	They will watch your development.
	You're a very sensitive person.
	I would certainly start keeping a journal.
	Okay.
	I've seen lots of those and stuff, you know, too.
	Okay.
	Well, there you are.
	You just confirmed what she said.
	I wonder, Evelyn, how many How many people, I mean, that lady, for example, said, look, the Grim Reaper grabbed me.
	Well, something grabbed her and, you know, she kind of put together, I think it was a Grim Reaper, but it could have been anything, right?
	That's correct.
	It was an entity, a being that had found her and tapped into her sensitivity.
	There are people out there that have clairvoyance, clairaudience, and that are highly sensitive.
	And there are beings that are attracted to them.
	And some of them will touch them, mark them, so to speak, so that they watch their development.
	And if they start to lean toward, let's say, the dark side, naturally the seduction begins.
	All right.
	Patty in Philadelphia, you're on with Dr. Evelyn Paglini.
	Hi Art and Doctor.
	Thank you for taking my call.
	I have a personal question.
	I've been working with a company for a long time.
	For a mortgage settlement for me, and I was wondering if you could tell me what month they'll be successful for my funds because it's been very difficult.
	Well, I'd have to have a little bit more information, honey.
	I'd need to know what is the name of the company and how long has this been going on.
	No, we can't do that on the air.
	That's on a personal level because I have to get into the vibration of what she's up against and what have they got against her.
	How could she figure it out for herself?
	Well, what she would have to do that she would probably know all of the information and what she can do if she wants to have a settlement, look at the legal injustice.
	And she can design it in such a way where she can force the issue so that therefore she will have the result in a timely manner.
	It's something that I need to design because I have to have more information.
	I see.
	But I can design it for you.
	And if you have the strength of mind And if you are desperate enough to do the ritual because it's important enough to you, you can get some results.
	Great.
	Thank you so much.
	You're welcome.
	All right, Patty.
	Thank you very much for the call.
	Hope you made note of how to get in contact.
	Kelly in San Antonio, Texas, your turn with Evelyn.
	Hi, Art.
	It's a pleasure.
	Another woman asked the same question earlier, but I need to ask it for myself as well.
	If you feel as though someone has crossed you or done one of these diabolical rituals against you, you mentioned the mirror protection, correct?
	Yes.
	However, what I would suggest, honey, understand, you may or may not know or be sure of the individual that you believe has done something to you.
	The way I have designed the ritual called Psychic Self-Defense Is that the most important thing is to take off what has been placed upon you, what's blocking and stopping you.
	Secondary is to send it back to the sender.
	And the way I have situated this ritual, only the person doing the sending, only the person sending the harm to you is the recipient of it.
	That's why I call it a boomerang.
	And then what happens is you put a shield of protection around you that is impenetrable.
	So that nothing that is negative is ever able to come into you again, and that's what you need to do.
	Okay, however, I respect your knowledge and everything, but I don't believe in sending evil back.
	Then just do a cleansing and protection, and what you will do is remove it from yourself and send it into the ether.
	It will go to no person.
	Do not do psychic self-defense, do only cleansing and protection.
	Okay.
	That's also up there.
	That's like self-defense.
	Pardon me?
	I said she doesn't want to be proactive.
	She doesn't want to go back to the prison.
	So what you're saying is, what you're giving her is just virtually self-defense.
	Right.
	Cleansing.
	Absolute cleansing.
	Just to remove it from her.
	And I know I have to be quick.
	Could you give me a reading real quick at all?
	No ma'am.
	Not on air.
	That's fine.
	I respect you.
	It's okay.
	Thank you.
	Thank you very much.
	Evelyn, if you don't know who's doing this to you, is there a way to discern the name or find the person who's doing it?
	Usually, I have found from my clients that when they are doing the black reverse image candle, especially on their second night of meditation, an image of the individual who's actually the perpetrator does show up.
	But the way I've designed it, In case they really, truly believe it could be their sister-in-law or mother-in-law.
	I want no innocent person ever to receive anything negative.
	So the way I've designed it, it is only that person which has wished ill will or harm is the recipient if you're going to send it back at all.
	Okay.
	Daryl in Missouri, you're on with Evelyn.
	Hi, how are you doing?
	It's an honor to speak to both of you.
	I was wondering, I Raised a little girl all by myself and up until she was seven years old and my sister took her away with lies and then two years ago she was taken away from my little sister and my mother's 82 my dad's 85 and when she turns 18 she'll be 15 this August when she turns 18 she'll be able to my prosecuting attorney said she'll be able to tell them to go get screwed and to go and she can come back to see me I was wondering if you would be able to get something to be able to
	Let the family services or whatever, let my parents be able to see my little girl because dad's 85 and my mom's 82 and they're not going to be able to live long enough to be able to see her in three years and seven months.
	So could you tell me what the... Well, babe, I'd have again to design a ritual.
	There is a way that you can put some kind of a light or exposure on an emotional basis and you would have to be using the elements, OK, especially of water in order to make The necessary authorities bend to give that kind of permission.
	It is an evolved ritual, sir, and if you are not a practitioner, it's going to take you a little time.
	I'm sorry.
	Well, could I talk, could I call you up sometime and talk to you about it?
	Absolutely.
	Absolutely, sir.
	I appreciate this more than half an hour of all.
	Please, to any person out there, if it is important enough for you To get into ritual.
	Learn meditation and visualization.
	That is the key to getting the results you want.
	All right.
	Cherie in Nevada?
	Hi.
	Hi.
	You're on with Evelyn, huh?
	And I was staying at a house one night at a friend's home and I woke up and I was just felt pure terror and floating in the room with this thing.
	It was probably about six foot tall and about four foot wide and it was thin and it was translucent and it was like black with white spots and I was just terrified.
	Eight years later I was living in a home and I had two small children at the time and I felt evil coming to the house and it was there daily.
	It got to the point that after a few months that I told my husband we had to move and things came to a point one day I finally got angry And I confronted this thing.
	I just started yelling and said, either attack me or get out of my home and leave my children alone.
	The same thing appeared in front of me.
	What was that?
	Well, that was probably an entity or a low-energy spirit that was trying to gain intimidation and control over you and your children.
	By confrontation, that is what is necessary.
	And by calling upon Like Jesus Christ or any belief that you have will dissipate it.
	Why was it coming after me?
	And the house that I was staying in, the first time I ever saw it, I found out years and years later that that home then was bought.
	And the night I stayed there, there was an entrance to the attic which was locked.
	I found out later, after that home was bought, that what you were describing earlier with the pentagram, that that was painted on the floor in the Of the attic of that house.
	Well that already tells me that they did evocation and summation and they opened up the portals to energies and entities that had resided within those premises.
	Why was it coming after me though?
	Because you were there.
	And you were sensitive and easy to feed upon.
	And what they will do is drain you of energy and feed upon your life force in order for them to sustain themselves.
	Sure.
	Somebody was opening doors there, obviously.
	Obviously.
	You were just in the wrong place at the wrong time.
	I guess so.
	Thank you very much.
	Right.
	Thank you.
	Let's go to Karen in New York City.
	You're on with Dr. Evelyn Paglini.
	Hi.
	Oh, hi.
	Hi, Eric.
	Hi, Dr. Paglini.
	Hello.
	I just kind of want to take a comment.
	I hear a lot of superstition-based fear and things like that from a lot of callers.
	And I'm glad that, you know, the doctor's reinforcing a lot of the, you know, the good things that people can do.
	So I've always found that good, you know, evil takes a lot to perpetuate.
	That's why I think so many evil people have all these rituals and things that they're so beholden to.
	And I've always found that just good intent goes so far.
	And under that line of thinking, you had been talking about the California fires that you're fearing.
	And I think maybe if we all just think of water being attracted to any fire, anyone who tries to light a fire would have water attracted to it to counteract it.
	Well, actually, let's try it, Karen, from another direction.
	She said she sees fire directly ahead of us in the next year or so, and that it's going to be the hand of man.
	A lot of people running around setting fires, and Evelyn, is there a way to change what you see?
	Not this time, Art, only because I'm getting a hidden agenda at such an intent.
	It is not like a person who wants to just create fires.
	These are people that are doing it for a specific reason.
	I don't know if it's economic, I don't know what it is, but no, this is not going to be able to be stopped.
	You may be able to change the mind of a sicko, or you may be able to expose something where it'll be caught quick enough where it was an accidental fire, but not the intent ones that I'm seeing.
	And again, if there's anybody in the audience that gets any dreams, has any waking state interpretations of what I am getting, and has more information, please contact you, Art.
	Contact me?
	Yes, let them email you or fax you and maybe you can give out that information so that, you know, the more people that are aware and know about it, maybe we can stop some of these fires or at least catch them.
	Maybe.
	I don't know that I'm the right person.
	Well, how would other people be able to reach?
	Are they going to be calling the media?
	Who's going to be listening?
	I don't know.
	I mean, if I were to go to the authorities and say, look, I do this radio talk show about these kinds of topics, and I've had all these calls saying something or another about fires and... So they'll be more aware.
	More warned is more armed.
	Boy.
	Okay.
	I guess okay.
	I don't know what I would do with the information, but... Just put it out there.
	Okay.
	More people being aware of it.
	More eyes.
	All right, done, Evelyn.
	Evelyn, Dr. Evelyn Paglini is my guest.
	And if you want more information, she does have a website, which is mysticalblend.com.
	It is spelled exactly the way it sounds.
	Mysticalblend.com.
	What we're talking about this night is the craft, that's right, witchcraft, from the high desert and the great American Southwest.
	I'm Art Bell.
	We've covered an awful lot of ground this night, from the increase in evil, to the fires that are coming at our own hand, that is to say, man's hand anyway, to the individual woes and beliefs, and if you're listening carefully, obviously there's a very great deal of that.
	Dr. Evelyn Paglini, back in a moment.
	Now here's an interesting observation that you might be able to comment on, Evelyn.
	Depending on the show, I will either get a flood of men or a flood of women.
	And when I have you on the air, Evelyn, it's a flood of women.
	Why do you think that is?
	Well, first of all, women being more emotional and more sensitive would gather and would be more interested in magic because they just gravitate toward it more.
	But believe it or not, in ancient times, it was the man that was the great magician.
	Yes, indeed.
	Very, very true.
	As most women cook, the top chefs, of course, are men.
	Yeah.
	Lori and Ben... Before we go to the phones, Art, can I make one more little statement?
	Yes.
	I know you have cats, and so do I.
	And I'm very worried because I feel that this recall is not over.
	I feel that it's going to spread and continue to spread.
	And so I really want to tell people out there that have pets, please be very, very careful because I think this is not over with yet.
	Yeah, and I read something earlier that said cats are going to be far more affected than our dogs.
	Yeah, and I have cats and so do you.
	And so I just thought I'd put that out there.
	Thank you.
	Something about their physiology.
	Thank you.
	Laurie in Vancouver, you're on with Evelyn.
	Thank you.
	I really appreciate your show and your intelligence, both of you.
	Thank you.
	So, let me tell you what happened to me.
	Six years ago, I got divorced.
	Five years ago, my ex burnt my condo down, stalked, harassed me, and it sort of stopped.
	However, in October, for absolutely no reason, I'm a 40-year-old woman.
	I had double pneumonia, sepsis, Meningitis.
	No reason whatsoever.
	I nearly died.
	And then, our family was always financially good.
	You know, not rich, but very, very financially stable and well.
	My father died.
	I live with my mother now, by choice, because we help each other, because she's 78.
	And I really, truly believe that my ex Has done this to me because prior to 40, my life was great.
	Good jobs and everything.
	And I have one chronic condition.
	Really, really, really low iron.
	It's at a level of five.
	And they don't even know why.
	And I don't know.
	I would like advice.
	In other words, you think you're under attack, right?
	Yes, I do.
	And I've even had dreams about him where he's murdered me and I wake up screaming.
	Not recently, though.
	And I would love to know.
	And I'm also half Spanish.
	I lived in Spain for four years as a child.
	And, you know, half Scottish.
	Figure that out.
	Okay, well, let's see what Evelyn says.
	Evelyn?
	Well, first of all, babe, what I would have her do is to test to make sure that is what's going on.
	And if she got positive results by either doing a health and well-being or a psychic self-defense, then what she can do is Raise her immune system, rebuild her energy, as well as to take away what's been blocking and stopping her as far as on the financial basis.
	If she'd give me a call, I'd be more than happy to discuss it further with her, but there is hope out there.
	Okay.
	Alright.
	To Faith in Ohio, you're on with Evelyn Paglini.
	Hi.
	Hi, I can't talk.
	I'm tongue-tied.
	I apologize.
	I'm on a cell phone, so I apologize for this.
	I wanted to ask Evelyn, I'm totally blind, and I want to find out if it matters whether we're visual or not, and if it's possible We can do the cleansing and protection, the psychic self-defense, and other, you know, rituals that really, you know, they all sound awesome.
	Yes, you can, honey.
	Just having visual impairment has got nothing to do with it.
	What you're doing is calling upon the God Force in order to remove the negativity, and then again the God Force in order to put an impenetrable shield of protection around you.
	That allows nothing but that which is God, good, and love to come through.
	I have been through a lot in my life at this point.
	I'm just, you know, at a standstill.
	But I've, you know, did lots of meditation and things, you know, on that very subject.
	And so far, someone's watching me.
	Well, there you are.
	There's no impediment.
	The fact that you're sightless apparently is no impediment at all.
	And I suppose you have to go to the website or something like that.
	Somebody who's sighted can certainly help you.
	Joanne in Oregon, you're on with Dr. Evelyn Paglini.
	Hi, how are you?
	Fine.
	I'd like to first say that I love your show.
	Thank you.
	I've already bought like six bottles of your punch.
	And I just listen intently.
	To see what is the next update on the baby.
	Congratulations from the bottom of my heart.
	Thank you.
	You've been very blessed.
	Dr. Paglini, I just feel awful all over all the time.
	I'm always in pain and I'm always tired.
	I'm only 41 years old.
	Is there anything that I can do or that you can recommend?
	Again, the health and well-being package that is on my website mysticalblend.com Honey, that can improve your energy and again, like I said, rebuild your immune system as well as remove the pain, the dysfunction and the disorders that are within the body.
	It is a ritual.
	You may have to do it more than once, usually about two to three weeks apart, but you will start noticing a result after the first ritual.
	Awesome.
	Would that also work the same for my dogs?
	No, honey, because you would have to do a remote healing.
	In other words, you would have to be doing the ritual for the dog.
	And then it can help the dog, yes.
	Thank you so much.
	It's been my pleasure to speak with you.
	My pleasure also.
	Have a nice holiday.
	Thank you.
	And you as well.
	Stephanie coming up from Indianapolis.
	You're on with Dr. Paglini.
	Hello.
	Thank you very much.
	You had asked people to call in who had had any kind of feelings about the fires.
	Yes, please.
	So, um, I wanted to tell you that I have been having these very vivid dreams, and there's not very much to them, but I can see vividly in my head for about the last six months, and I've told people about this, and they're like, oh, you're just being paranoid, you know, nothing's going to happen, it can't possibly be that bad.
	But, um, I've had, in conjunction with the month of August to September, I don't know why I'm feeling that.
	I don't quite understand it, because that's not the time that a fire would really naturally occur.
	Actually, I think that it is.
	In the West, for example, August and September would be very dry months if it's hot, and it's going to be hot.
	But in other states, it could be that intent that I'm picking up.
	I mean, I would wake up in cold sweats after seeing this glowing coming off of buildings.
	It was to the point where I was actually hearing people scream in my dreams.
	Yeah, that's what I'm getting, babe.
	It's a tremendous amount.
	It's too much, too many places, too many states.
	And I don't like it.
	That's why I'm that worried.
	And I thank you so much.
	If you get any more information, Email me or email Art Bell with anything more that you come up with.
	Maybe if enough of us put it together, we might be able to stop it or at least head it off.
	Well, I've actually been writing it down since I started having the dream, and I will email to you what I have written.
	Oh, thank you.
	Thank you very, very much.
	No problem.
	All right, Stephanie.
	Thank you.
	Kelly in Atlanta, Georgia.
	You're on with Evelyn.
	Hi, Art.
	Hi.
	I feel like I may have come to the end of a destined journey that I've been on for the last two years.
	I'd like to get some information on your thoughts of being drawn to a house or a piece of property for a purpose.
	Some background is that I've come in contact with a house and a piece of property mainly that have had problems with spirits of children and shadows of something evil.
	I visited the place several times and I feel a calling almost to it.
	I'm one of these people that, like Art had mentioned before, I need to be hit over the head, even though the answers are right there in front of me.
	But how do you feel about, you were speaking of being a spiritual warrior, do you think it's a possibility that a person can be destined to battle something evil?
	Like that?
	Yes absolutely and you probably are a sensitive and there may be the spirit of a young child that has reached out to you and is causing you to come there and to help them cross over and to fight with that which is holding them there which may be a negative evil or force.
	I can't even tell you how many things have been screaming at me throughout the day right up until I had to call three different times, got through, and was cut off, you know, those three times, and just, I couldn't even believe I got through again, and I'm talking to you without the phone going dead.
	It was supposed to be.
	I know it was.
	You are a spiritual warrior.
	You're being called to perform a function for those discarnate entities that need to be released.
	Okay, but this is a very powerful, it's so strange.
	Mirrors, I have In my bathroom, I have three mirrors that two face each other, and this face of the entity has appeared ever since I've come in contact with this one piece of property.
	In that mirror... Use ammonia, okay?
	Cleanse your mirror with ammonia.
	There is nothing negative that will be able to be reflected or housed in any mirror.
	See, I'd be running in the other direction, Evelyn, but she said she feels compelled.
	She's compelled.
	She's being called.
	She's a sensitive and she's being called to become a spiritual warrior to help those definite little children that need to cross over and they're being held against their will.
	Alright, here's a guy, Jerome in Michigan.
	You're on with Evelyn.
	Hey, are you there?
	Yes.
	Mr. Arbel.
	Yes.
	No, you're the greatest.
	I just want you to like tell you that.
	Thank you.
	Okay.
	Um, what I'm going to talk about, uh, I seen like ghost, um, but, um, basically it black eyes.
	Um, it was hovering over my bed.
	Um, and you want to know what it was?
	There was like no sound whatsoever.
	I got up in the morning.
	I told my mother that I'm not going to school because I'm not feeling good and she said, okay, just go back to bed.
	My mom babysits a bunch of kids and they were screaming, you know, the whole night it hurts.
	At this point or whatever, I turned around and I said, okay, I'm going back to sleep.
	Like these kids were like screaming, you know, and you know, no problem.
	Um, and your point is my, my point is that I turn around and I see like a bright light, you know, I opened my eyes.
	I see this mist like hovering over my bed and There's time or whatever, like birds are chirping, everything, you know, I mean, it's morning.
	And everything like ceased.
	You know, I mean, totally.
	And I don't know what to make of it or whatever.
	It was like so unbelievable that, you know, like something like I'm trying to figure out why you would want to go back to sleep.
	If you found something black hovering above your bed, I would think getting up and starting the day and getting out of bed would be a definite option.
	Right.
	That's what I thought.
	Well, yeah, but you went back to bed.
	No, all I did was like I laid down and as soon as I closed my eyes, it's daylight.
	And I closed my eyes, you know, and there was something like penetrating my eyes to open it because it's like a bright light.
	My mom used to babysit like five kids.
	And they were screaming, right?
	No, no, for real.
	Yeah, and they were screaming, you said.
	Please listen.
	I am listening.
	You said they were screaming.
	Yeah, I mean, my room was like right by the living room.
	And, you know, she used to babysit the kids or whatever.
	And, you know, it was like penetrating.
	I could not go back to sleep.
	I told my mother, I said, you know what?
	I'm failing to get your point.
	Evelyn, did you get something out of that?
	I didn't.
	No, because the first thing I would have asked is, you know, how did he feel when he saw this?
	Was there anybody that died recently?
	Could it have been a communication of a spirit or a dearly departed?
	I'm not getting any information.
	Yeah, same problem.
	I can't answer the question.
	Jerry in New Mexico, you're on with Evelyn Paglini.
	Good morning Art, first time caller, long time listener.
	I want some of whatever that guy was drinking that was talking before me.
	There was probably something somewhere there, we just couldn't get it.
	Yes, okay.
	Evelyn, I got a question for you.
	My wife and I have only been married for four years, and we were very energetic and very healthy.
	And for the last about a year, year and a half, we have been falling apart.
	And I think somebody has put the hex on us.
	How would we find out?
	Well, it's a possibility, and the way to do that, again, would be to go back and find out if there was anybody on either side that might have been extremely jealous of your reunion, and if any of those might have had a background in the occult or into magic, because they would have the capabilities to try to either destroy the marriage or the health and well-being of both of you.
	And if so, again, by doing any one of the rituals and receiving the positive results makes you realize that it has been done to you and now it has been released.
	So take a look at Psychic Self-Defense Health and Well-Being.
	Okay.
	All right, sir, thank you very much.
	Thank you very much.
	All right, take care.
	Evelyn, in the world of ufology, inevitably, whether it's a French study or other countries, you know, you'll hear that 75%, and that's a generous figure, or a realistic figure, of the people that see these things, these can be explained away as Weather phenomena, other very, I don't know, earthly phenomena that can be explained.
	And 25%, anywhere between 1 and 25% simply cannot be explained.
	Now, in your world, in this world that we're talking about tonight, how many of these people that we've been listening to that think they may be getting attacked really are being attacked versus just a rough life?
	I would have to say that there may be some people that are being attacked or visited by extraterrestrial beings, and there are also those that are being attacked by either those who have called upon spirits, entities, or beings and sent them forth as a spell or a curse onto a victim.
	Okay, well either one of those are possible, but I'm also asking how many are just... I mean, after all, some people just...
	Run into a streak of bad luck?
	Yes, and that cycle always is just that.
	A cycle.
	It ends after a period of time.
	It does not extend or grow.
	There you go.
	All right.
	Very quickly, Bill in St.
	Louis, you're on with Evelyn.
	And not a lot of time.
	Yes, I'd like to thank you for taking my call.
	I know that I have potential within me to help others.
	And I want to know how I can develop my own potential, inner potential, and help others develop theirs.
	There you go, Evelyn.
	Well, I'll tell you again, the course, the mind development course that I have is the basic foundation.
	It not only teaches you how to increase your own psi abilities, but to control meditation and visualization.
	Once you have that ability, you are able to not only share that knowledge with others, but increase your own potential no matter what tradition you want to go into.
	Mysticalblend.com.
	Listen, Evelyn, we're out of time.
	Thank you.
	We've got to go.
	Thank you.
	Have a wonderful night, Evelyn.
	Talk to you next time.
	Bye-bye.
	That, ladies and gentlemen, is Evelyn Paglini from the high desert.
	Tomorrow night, Ed Dames.
	You remember about the bees, right?

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