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Dec. 23, 2006 - Art Bell

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Coast to Coast AM with Art Bell - Wm. Louis McDonald - Autism and the Grays

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	From the Southeast Asian capital city of the Philippine Islands, Manila, I bid you all good morning, good afternoon, good evening.
	Right here, very, very near the equator where the temperatures are in the mid, well, actually upper 80s, I would say, and it's very humid out there, unlike where many of you are right now.
	But it certainly is Christmas Eve here in the Philippines.
	And oh my God, is it ever Christmas here.
	The Philippines are literally vibrating with Christmas.
	The population here is about 87% Catholic.
	And so you can well imagine, actually you probably can't.
	When I say the Philippines are vibrating with Christmas, I mean seriously vibrating with Christmas.
	It's absolutely, it's everywhere.
	Everywhere!
	And somebody said, hey Art, how about taking a picture of one of the malls?
	I don't intend to go anywhere near one of the malls right now.
	It is elbow to elbow to elbow in the malls.
	It's hard to even navigate, hard to walk.
	But my gosh is it ever Christmassy around here and it reminds me of when I guess I was a child and how much Christmas there was around me then.
	I mean everything is decorated here.
	Everything public, all the public buildings, the government buildings, the streets, Christmas decorations hang from the streetlights.
	It's just unbelievable.
	The one thing missing though is snow.
	No snow.
	At all.
	Not in the upper 80s, that's for sure.
	We have two seasons here, the rainy and hot season and summer.
	That's about it near the equator.
	All right, let's look very quickly.
	It is my honor and privilege to be escorting you through this weekend at World News.
	Iran vows to defy UN nuclear sanctions.
	What a surprise.
	The UN Security Council voted unanimously Saturday to impose sanctions on Iran for refusing to suspend uranium enrichment, increasing international pressure on the government to prove it is not trying to make nuclear weapons.
	Iran immediately rejected the resolution, the result of two months of tough negotiation.
	That must be discouraging.
	Two months you go through really tough negotiations to get resolution and they reject it immediately.
	The resolution orders all countries to stop supplying Iran with materials and technology that could contribute to its nuclear and missile programs.
	It also, this might help, freezes Iranian assets of 10 key companies and 12 individuals related to those programs.
	A U.S.
	airstrike near the Pakistan border has killed the Taliban's southern military commander, according to U.S.
	military spokesman today, calling him the highest-ranking Taliban ever slain by American forces.
	Mullah Oktar Mohammed Osamni's vehicle was hit by a U.S.
	airstrike Tuesday as he traveled in a deserted area in the southern province of Helmand I suspect two associates also killed.
	I suspect they had no warning at all.
	Not such a bad way to go, I suppose.
	You get no warning at all.
	I mean, the missile coming at you is probably traveling faster than the sound, so you're dead before you get to hear what killed you.
	As the city shuttered itself in fear of serial killers this summer, Ron Horton in Phoenix found himself having an odd conversation with an old drinking buddy.
	Quote, let me ask you something, Horton remembers his friend Samuel John Dietman sliding over to tell him between beers in June, do you know what it's like to kill a man?
	End quote.
	That's a hint.
	A U.S.-backed plan to form a political coalition of Iraqis, Shiites, Sunni Arabs, and Kurds, a glimmer of hope in a nation torn by sectarian violence, has failed to win the crucial support of the top Shiite cleric on Saturday.
	So, all of that hangs in mid-air.
	A winter, speaking of air, a winter storm dumped seven inches of wet, heavy snow on central Wisconsin.
	Leaving again, thousands of people without electricity, disrupting holiday preparations.
	Wisconsin Public Service Corporation reported more than 19,000 customers with no electricity Saturday evening.
	About half of the outages were in the towns of Wausau and Stevens Point.
	A former Miss Nevada USA dethroned over raunchy photos posted online, apologized today as her attorney pleaded for the pageant queen to be given a second chance.
	Katie Reeves, who appeared in photos revealing a breast, exposing her thong underwear and kissing other young women at a party in Tampa, said her behavior was, quote, an isolated incident, end quote.
	So that is the state of the world.
	I imagine she will get another chance after the Donald giving, I guess that's in the air now, giving everybody a second chance.
	In a moment we'll look at some of the news that in a lot of ways matters much more.
	By the way, as I explained yesterday, and you may not have heard yesterday's show, during
	the course of the program, because I use a mic headset, a Beyer mic headset, I've got
	a little mic always in front of my mouth.
	And so the only way to drink coffee while I'm on the air is to have a little cup with a straw in it.
	And I made the very serious error of taking a big swig of coffee through the straw during the first break of the program yesterday.
	And my tongue immediately became swollen, blistering, and little pieces of it actually peeled off.
	Well, I have had a semi-miraculous recovery overnight.
	It's really quite amazing how quickly the tongue apparently heals.
	Now, it's not completely healed.
	I can still feel, you know, where little pieces of it peeled.
	But otherwise, it's well on the way to becoming fairly normal.
	I'm really shocked.
	Speaking of shocked, this story worries me, and I don't... I'm not sure why.
	Maybe I am.
	I recall stories saying that eventually men in our world will be no more.
	That the gene that produces men is in danger.
	Now, would that mean the end of the world?
	Traditionally, certainly we would think so, but more and more creatures Like, for example, the largest lizards in the world are now proving capable of virgin births.
	Scientists report, listen to this, two cases where female Komodo dragons have produced offspring without any male conduct.
	No male anywhere!
	Test revealed their eggs had developed without being fertilized by sperm.
	A process called parthenogenesis.
	The team wrote in the journal Nature, so this is real thing.
	One of the reptiles, Flora, a resident of the Chester Zoo in the United Kingdom, is awaiting her clutch of eight eggs to hatch with a due date estimated around, right now, Christmas.
	Kevin Bewley, a curator at Chester Zoo and co-author of the paper, said, Flora laid her eggs at the end of May.
	Given the incubation period of between seven and nine months, it's possible they could hatch right around now, right around Christmas, which for a virgin birth would finish the story off rather nicely.
	We will be on the lookout for shepherds, wise men, and an unusually bright star in the sky over Chester Zoo.
	He said, Flora, who's never been kept with a male Komodo dragon, produced 11 eggs earlier this year.
	Three died off, providing the material needed for genetic testing.
	They revealed the offspring were not exact genetic copies or clones of the mother, but their genetic makeup was derived just from her and her alone.
	The team concluded they were a result of asexual reproduction, and they're waiting for the remaining eight eggs to hatch.
	Other breeds have begun to do this as well, other types of animals, and I don't know, it just worries me a little bit.
	The world is getting a little weird, and I hope there's always a need for, you know, we guys, but I'm worried.
	Related story.
	The world's first cloned cat has now become a mother.
	And she even did it without test tubes.
	Copycat.
	That's her name.
	Cece, who was cloned by Texas A&M University.
	Isn't that a cute name, Cece?
	Cece.
	Carbon copy.
	Back in 2001, had three kittens in September.
	Mother and kittens are doing well.
	They're cute.
	We thought people ought to know about the birth, said Kramer.
	We're hoping it doesn't cause the same frenzy CeCe originally did.
	CeCe got worldwide attention after she was cloned at Texas A&M, which has cloned more species than any other institution in the world, including cattle, swine, goats, horses, and a deer.
	The father is Smokey, a naturally born tabby who was brought in to mate with Cece.
	Two of the kittens take after the mom.
	The third has a gray coat just like dad.
	Cece is not the first cloned cat to give birth.
	In New Orleans, two cloned wild African cats successfully mated to also produce kittens.
	This one freaked me out.
	A watchdog group, you may have heard this already, charges a nuclear warhead very nearly exploded in Texas when it was being dismantled at the government's Pantex facility near Amarillo.
	Good Lord.
	The Project on Government Oversight says, it has been told by knowledgeable experts that the warhead nearly detonated in 2005 because of an unsafe amount of pressure which was applied while it was being disassembled.
	It's according to the Austin American-Statesman reports.
	The U.S.
	Energy Department fined the plant's operators $110,000 last month.
	An investigator for a project on government oversight says the weapon involved a W-56 warhead.
	Now, what's that?
	Well, it's a warhead with 100 times the destructive power of the atomic bomb dropped on Hiroshima.
	It certainly would have turned Amarillo into dust.
	The Watchdog Group says the problem was caused in part by technicians at the plant being required to work up to 72 hours each week.
	They released an anonymous letter reportedly sent by Pantex employees warning that long hours and efforts to increase output were causing dangerous conditions at the plant.
	Oh my God.
	This comes from Whitley Streber's Unknown Country.
	Thanks, Whit.
	Our war on drugs is getting to seem more and more futile, especially since it has reached the point where marijuana is now America's most valuable cash crop.
	In fact, worth more to farmers than wheat and corn combined.
	Despite the fact that both of those crops are heavily subsidized, a new report draws this conclusion based on our government's own calculations.
	Even the most conservative estimates show that marijuana production has increased 10 times in the last 25 years, now to the point where, for a quarter of the U.S., it's the leading cash crop.
	It's one of the top five crops in almost 40 states.
	California is a state where a third of it is grown.
	This is amazing, considering that the crop is illegal everywhere, and California, where most of it is grown, borders on Mexico, where large smuggling operations regularly transport large amounts of it right across the border.
	In The Independent, Andrew Gumbel quotes the report's author, John Getman, as saying, Despite years of effort by law enforcement, they're not getting rid of it.
	Not only is the problem worse in terms of magnitude of cultivation, but production has spread all around the country.
	To say the genie is out of the bottle is a profound understatement.
	Gumbel quotes Rob Campia of the Marijuana Policy Project as saying the fact that marijuana is America's number one cash crop after more than three decades of governmental eradication efforts is the clearest illustration that our present marijuana laws are a complete failure.
	Now, isn't that just about exactly the same kind of conclusion?
	That was reached with regard to alcohol following the prohibition.
	I think it was.
	They said, look, we can't stop it.
	Might as well legalize it and tax it.
	The Wall Street Journal had a story I've referred to many times in the past saying, were we to legalize marijuana and all its subsidiary I don't know.
	Clothing can be made and I think rope and all these different things.
	Be it worth about half a trillion dollars every year to the government in tax money.
	For Kenny Rogers, now this comes from the Washington Post, so you know.
	For Kenny Rogers, it was strange enough that military jets were flying low over his home in Waldorf in the middle of the night.
	It was what he thinks he saw when he headed outside to look early yesterday that just about floored him.
	It was this object, quoting now, it was this object, this light blue object, traveling at a phenomenal rate of speed, said Rogers.
	This Air Force jet was right behind it, chasing it, but the object was leaving it in the dust.
	I told my neighbor, I think those jets are chasing a UFO.
	Military officials, in fact, confirm that two F-16 jets from Andrews Air Force Base were scrambled early yesterday, now this would be a few days ago, after radar detected an unknown aircraft in area airspace.
	But they scoff at the idea the jets were chasing a strange and speedy blue unidentified flying object.
	We had a track, they say, of interest.
	So, we sent up some aircraft, said Major Douglas Martin, spokesman for the North American Aerospace Defense Command in Colorado, which has responsibility for defending U.S.
	airspace.
	Everything was fine in the sky, so they returned home.
	At the same time, military officials say they do not know just what the jets were chasing, because whatever it was, There are any number of scenarios, but we don't know what it was, said Major Barry Venable, another spokesman for NORAD.
	Radar detected a low, slow-flying aircraft at about 1 a.m.
	yesterday, according to a military official.
	Controllers were unable to establish radio communications with the unidentified aircraft, and NORAD was notified.
	When the F-16s carrying air-to-air missiles were launched from Andrews, the unidentified aircraft's track faded from the radar.
	That's a quote from a military official who wanted anonymity.
	Pilots with the D.C.
	Air National Guard's 113th Air Wing, which flew F-16s from Andrews, reported nothing out of the ordinary, according to NORAD.
	Why, it was a routine launch, said Lt.
	Steve Chase.
	This is hard to read with a straight face.
	It was a routine launch.
	Yeah, right.
	He's a senior officer with the wing which keeps pilots and armed jets on 24-hour alert at Andrews to respond to incidents as part of an air defense system protecting Washington after the September 11 attacks.
	Rogers remains convinced that what he saw was not routine.
	It looked like a shooting star with no trailing mist.
	He said, I've never seen anything like it.
	What was that bright light in Maryland's sky?
	WTOP has learned that residents near Andrews Air Force Base were shaken from their beds early Friday morning by some strange activity in the air.
	Incredible, absolutely incredible, is what Kenny Rogers, Waldorf, calls it.
	Just before two in the morning, Rogers said he saw a huge, large, well, you don't need those two words, a large ball of blue light streaking across the sky.
	But it was the military jets that really startled him.
	The jets were right on its tail.
	As the thing would move, the jet was right behind it.
	He's not the only one who saw it.
	People called WTOP Radio reporting seeing blue lights or orange balls moving very fast, being chased by jets.
	Rogers said there's no smoke coming from the object.
	No flashing lights.
	Said that it was smooth and silent.
	The Air National Guard confirms they scrambled the 113th squadron.
	Spokesmen say they are investigating and in contact with NORAD.
	Now that just kills me.
	In other words, you launch F-16s, a couple of them, to chase something that you have no idea what it might be.
	None at all.
	They chase it.
	They don't get it, it takes off, and it just leaves one of our best, fastest jet planes, or a pair of them, in the dust.
	And they say, well, it's routine.
	Routine.
	I don't know.
	I just, I don't know.
	Hey, we're going to have a very interesting guest at the top of the hour.
	Bill McDonald and he will be talking about aliens.
	I've got a lot of alien type stories tonight.
	This is sort of interesting.
	Residents of a southern Somalia town who do not pray five times a day with regularity are going to be beheaded.
	According to an official on Wednesday adding the edict is going to be implemented in three days.
	Probably is by now.
	Shops, tea houses, other public places about 124 miles northeast of the capital Mogadishu should be closed during prayer time.
	Nobody ought to be on the streets said a sheik there, chairman of the town's Islamic court.
	His court is part of a network backed by armed militiamen.
	It has taken control of much of southern Somalia in recent months, bringing a strict interpretation of Islam that is alien even to many Somalis.
	Those who don't follow the prayer edict, after three days have elapsed, will definitely be beheaded.
	According to Islamic law, Rage told the Associated Press by phone, as Muslims we should practice Islam fully, not in part.
	And that is what our religion enjoins us to do.
	That's interesting.
	That is what our religion enjoins us to do.
	You mean to say it really enjoins Officials to produce an edict saying if you don't pray five times a day, we will cut your head off.
	Somalia's Islamic courts have made varying interpretations of Qur'anic law, some applying it more strictly in radical versions of Islam than others.
	Some of the courts have introduced public executions, flogging of convicts, bans on women swimming in Mogadishu's public beaches, and on the sale and chewing of something called cot, a leafy stimulant consumed across the Horn of Africa and in the Middle East.
	So, no chewing!
	I don't know what the punishment for that might be.
	Probably some sort of loss of life.
	But if you don't pray five times a day, that's it.
	Your head rolls.
	Because I guess God wants it that way.
	From Manila in the Philippines, I'm Art Bell.
	We're about to do open lines, so those are the numbers.
	Feel free to grab one of the portals and join us.
	Every now and then I get an email.
	Yesterday we were doing the best and worst days of your life based on a book I read recently.
	It was interesting and it caused this email to arrive that, I don't know, it just caught my attention.
	It says, Hi Art.
	I've had miracles happen to me all my life.
	And yet, I still used to have those doubts.
	I was six months pregnant with my first child, after having had three miscarriages in the first trimester, when a gentle voice came to me and simply said, your daughter is going to die.
	For if she were born now, your marriage would fall apart, and it's not supposed to.
	I was awake at the time, but when I awoke my husband, he said, you've always known that our first baby will be a boy, so don't worry.
	I've always had a gift for knowing future events and so forth.
	Still, I knew what I had been told was a time for me to prepare to lose another child, given out of kindness.
	One week later, I went to my doctor who said, we need more time and your cervix is open.
	I was wheeled into a room, tilted upside down so they could perform an operation to save my child.
	Of course, my water broke and labor began with no hope of trying to save the baby.
	I was 23 years old.
	They hadn't had a clue how to.
	She was born alive and we held her for an hour until her tiny, paper-thin heart stopped.
	I baptized her just in case.
	Two weeks after her death, the same gentle voice came and said, I'm taking you to your daughter.
	With no fear, I took his hand.
	And assembled into a realm of such love and contentment as I've ever seen, I saw her at all ages at once, and for a brief moment, I knew all.
	I knew all, and it seemed so simple.
	I saw her playing with a blonde beauty of about three years, and I knew without a doubt that love never dies, and we never lose anyone.
	When I returned from my miracle journey, I was not allowed to bring the simple knowledge of the universe and God with me.
	I did, however, keep the love of my child and a memory of her blonde friend.
	Five years to the day of my daughter's death, I gave birth to Laura, beautiful, blonde, and blue-eyed.
	I did have a son in between named Christian.
	When Laura first began to talk, she asked me where her sister was.
	We'd never told the children about her.
	We named our angel in God's realm Mary Michael, for my name's sake.
	The worst day of my life was clearly her death.
	And yet it also turned out to be the best as well.
	Her little life taught me the meaning of God's infinity of love and the assurance of forever.
	Thanks.
	And she gives her whole name, I'll just say Mary.
	Mary, thank you for that.
	It sort of, I guess, underscores so much of what we heard during the open line session yesterday.
	Okay.
	All right.
	In a moment, we move directly to open lines.
	All right.
	Many of you asking, are we going to do the annual prediction show this year?
	Yes, yes, yes, of course we're going to do that.
	Now listen to me very carefully.
	This is very important.
	I want you not to make just a casual, let's call art and get on the air prediction, all right?
	I want you to, and I say this every year, put on your best, your very best hat in terms of predictive hat, psychic hat, as you will.
	Between now and next week, it's a good opportunity for you to sort of close your eyes and really try and think of a prediction, one that will come true.
	In 2007.
	Yes, we have retrieved the predictions made for 2006.
	We will, of course, review those and take your predictions for 2007.
	So that is coming up.
	I just ask, please, don't just do it casually.
	Give it a little bit of thought.
	Your very best shot at a psychic knowing for 2007.
	With that, West of the Rockies, Jay in San Diego, you're on the air.
	Hi, I had a question for you.
	Okay.
	Are you familiar at all with Area 51 training site?
	I'm certainly familiar with Area 51.
	As you know, I'm from Pahrump, Nevada, which is just across the mountain from Area 51.
	I can get their UHF, VHF transmissions and all the rest of it.
	So, that's familiar.
	I was very close to it.
	But in terms of having been there, inside, seen the saucers, the little guys, no.
	Well, you're going to find this pretty interesting.
	When I was a kid, I was picked for certain testing, and there's a robot.
	I was wondering if you knew about this robot that's there, and it's a training site.
	And what this robot is, it's... Have you ever heard of the Trijahelic Alien DNA?
	No.
	No, no.
	But how do you know what you're telling me right now?
	Are you telling me you were at Area 51 or what?
	Yes.
	But I was a kid.
	I was selected.
	All right.
	Why would a kid be allowed to go to Area 51?
	I don't know.
	But anyway... Well, no, no, no.
	That's insufficient.
	Yeah, I know.
	I mean, who took you there?
	I'm guessing it was my grandparents.
	And they had special qualifications because they were in the service But anyway, there's a... If you've ever seen that movie Men in Black, there's a hallway there that represents the same thing as in that movie Men in Black, and it brought up this memory of me actually... There's this robot, right?
	And it looks like an alien, but it's actually a suit, and only a kid can wear it.
	So I was wondering if they were doing mock testing to confuse a type of I have no idea, sir.
	that is not native to the planet and that's why this ship is decoying playing
	games in the air. I have no idea sir, truly I have no idea and I have pretty
	severe doubts that you actually made it to area 51.
	I think that no children under any circumstances that I can imagine or be aware of have ever been allowed into that area.
	It is one of the most, no, I think it is the most secret I mean, this is an area where you are warned.
	There's a sign that lethal force will be used if you pass this point.
	In other words, they're saying, we will shoot you!
	Perhaps your parents told you a story when you were young.
	Many of us form memories based on things our parents told us that eventually, as we get older, turn or transform into what seem to be real memories.
	Now, it could have happened.
	Anything in the world is possible, but I have great, great doubts indeed.
	Let's move to a wild card line.
	You're on the air.
	I think you're on the air.
	No, I pushed the button and nothing happened.
	Let's try again.
	Okay.
	Wildcard Line, I think you're on the air.
	Hello, how you doing, Art?
	There you are.
	What's going on, my man?
	You, at the moment.
	Merry Christmas, sir.
	Thank you.
	Very same to you.
	I'm going to give you a prediction right now.
	Early?
	No, I cannot record it.
	I mean, you can go ahead and make it, but I can't record it.
	OK.
	All right, fine.
	Let's just hope Hillary don't get elected president.
	I beg your pardon?
	We don't need Hillary Clinton as the president, that's for sure.
	Well, that's a hope, not a prediction.
	That's a prayer.
	OK.
	It's a prayer.
	Look here, good luck.
	Wish you a happy new year.
	Okay, very same to you, and that's a clear example of what I don't want.
	All right?
	Hopes and prayers are fine as they go, and you're welcome to have all the hopes and prayers you would like, but when we do a prediction show, That's what I want, are predictions that come from your psychic soul, your psychic center.
	I want real predictions about something you think will or will not occur in 2007, not a hope.
	And I don't record hopes, and much as they're sacred, I don't even record prayers.
	What I'm recording is predictions, and I'm not doing it tonight.
	So, to be officially recorded, it's got to be during that prediction period of time, those few days between Christmas and the New Year, and we do officially record them.
	They have to be on the air, and they have to be recorded so everybody hears it, everybody knows, and if you get a hit, And if you get a serious hit, then we come back and we talk to you about what you have done, and then of course pay a whole lot of attention when you make an additional prediction.
	So you get a hit.
	We'll listen very carefully, believe me.
	First time caller on the line, Will in Florida.
	You're on the air.
	Good morning, Art.
	Hi.
	I want to tell you about something that happened to me when I was in the Philippines.
	Okay.
	A friend of mine and I, we were skating around.
	I was stationed up at the Navy Hospital at Subic Bay.
	And we were skating around the hospital, a circular road around the hospital, just skating.
	And then he went in.
	I said, well, I'm going to go around one more time.
	And I went around that last time.
	And when I got back in front of the barracks, a huge light shined down on me.
	It just appeared from nowhere, just a huge light shined down on me.
	I looked up and all I could see was this bright light.
	I didn't hear any noise, didn't feel any air as if it was a helicopter, and it just sat there in the middle of the sky.
	That's odd.
	Any loss of time or any other indication of something?
	Well, when I got back into the barracks, and the thing about it was, as quickly as it came, it left.
	And when I got back in the barracks, my friend said, where have you been, man?
	Uh-huh.
	It took you that long to skate around there?
	And I'm going, what are you talking about?
	And he said, you've been gone a long time, man.
	How long?
	He didn't say how long.
	He just said, I've been gone a long time.
	And after that, I started dreaming about, you know, spaceships and stuff like this.
	And real vivid dreams.
	Well, look, these experiences, these things that, like the thing that happened to you, these things are common all over the world here in the Philippines and everywhere else in the world.
	It's not just the United States.
	We hear about things that occur in the U.S., of course, because the U.S.
	covers U.S.
	news.
	It doesn't cover what happens, for example, very frequently in the Philippines unless Oh, for example, a big typhoon hits and thousands die.
	That gets covered.
	Aside from that, though, this kind of story, whether it comes from the Philippines or India or anywhere else in the world, simply does not get covered.
	In fact, usually they don't get covered in the U.S.
	either.
	So, the unusual, the paranormal, is normal around the world.
	The Philippines happens to be a very, very paranormal place.
	There are beliefs here you just would have trouble digesting.
	They are so paranormal.
	It strikes me that a program of this sort Would be an enormous success here in the Philippines.
	Now, my Tagalog is not good enough to be doing that here in the Philippines, but it would be enormously successful.
	Maybe English would work.
	Most Filipinos speak English.
	It is the second language here.
	There are a lot of things about the Philippines that deserve to make this country an enormous success.
	Filipinos are very, very, very hard workers.
	Extremely hard workers.
	They are called the world's helpers.
	About a fourth or a fifth of the Filipinos are out of the country at any given time.
	If you, for example, go on a cruise, you will notice that most of the service workers are Filipinos.
	Extremely hard workers.
	Very polite, wonderful people.
	The Philippines' best asset would be its people, without any shadow of a doubt.
	They are happy.
	They're hard workers and why the Philippines is not a richer country, I have no idea.
	Eventually it's going to be.
	Certainly it's going to be.
	It's going to follow the rest of Asia and do very well indeed.
	Wildcard Line 3, Scott in Florida, you are upon the air.
	Hi.
	Hi Art, how are you doing?
	Fine.
	Yeah, I'm just calling because I wanted to talk about the situation that's going on in the rainforest right now.
	I heard something really startling that scared me, that there's some scientists saying that it's, they're saying within a year maybe, it's going to get to a point of no return where the forests are going to start dying because all the rivers have dried up and everything like that.
	And I know your standpoint on mass consciousness.
	Yes.
	You're a little scared of it and everything.
	I was wondering if maybe we're at that point right now, where it's sort of a point of no return, where it would be best for us all to sort of use this to help the forest heal itself.
	I'm not asking for us to call forth the rain that it needs, and if we did that we might destroy villages.
	Whatever, with massive flooding, but just for people to reach out with their minds and call for a healing.
	Let the forest do what it needs to do in order for it to flourish the way it needs to so it can prevent this massive catastrophe that's going to happen if it all dies.
	I mean, once the rainforest dies, all that dead plant life will release massive amounts I'm not prepared, sir, to say that we've reached that tipping point.
	We're probably close, and for all I know, we may have actually passed it already.
	There's a lot of argument going on about that right now.
	But until I know we really are in that very critical situation, and I admit we may be close, I'm not prepared to do it because I don't know what the repercussions might be.
	In other words, I do recognize the immense power of millions of minds concentrating on one single thing.
	I don't know that it will have the effect that we want it to have.
	I would hope and I would pray that would be true, but I recognize, and those experts that I've talked to in the field, you know, those folks at Princeton and elsewhere who are doing the work in this area, agree that there's not yet enough known to be toying with that sort of thing.
	So I'm taking their advice as well as my own inner feeling about this, that we could make a gigantic mistake, and I certainly don't want to do that on behalf of all of you and your children.
	So that tells you how much I really believe in this.
	That's not to say, though, that if we assuredly get to that point that I would not utilize every single last one of you who'd be willing to help.
	First time caller line, Crystal from Texas, you are on the air.
	Hey Art, happy Yule.
	Thank you.
	I had a dream one night about this fox.
	I don't know, it wanted me to follow it or something, but I looked up on the internet I heard something about spirit animals.
	What do you know about spirit animals?
	Well, I'm told that each and every one of us has a spirit animal somewhere.
	I don't know the truth to all of that, but I suspect it might be true.
	Crystal?
	Hello?
	Crystal? We lost her.
	Okay.
	Crystal's gone.
	I think Crystal was shy.
	I don't really know any more about it than that, dear.
	Just that many people tell us that we do have spirit animals that are part of us, I guess.
	Jill in Knoxville, Tennessee.
	You're on the air.
	Not a lot of time.
	Hi, Art.
	It's great to talk to you.
	Merry Christmas.
	And the very same to you.
	The reason I called was I wanted to tell you about what I've read in our local paper.
	About cold fusion?
	What did it say?
	Very quickly.
	Okay.
	That the Department of Energy has awarded Oak Ridge National Laboratory $12 billion to build the first full-size cold fusion reactor.
	Really?
	Yes.
	Do you have something you could send me on that?
	A newspaper story or something?
	My computer's down.
	All right, if you can get to one or anybody else, please, I do want to know about that.
	Send it to Art Bell at Minespring.com.
	Somebody else will send it to me.
	That's really true, huh?
	Uh-huh, yes.
	It's along with the French government.
	Well, if that's true, honey, it's really, really big news, to say the least.
	So thank you very much.
	I'm sorry we're out of time this hour.
	Bill McDonald coming up next hour from Manila in the Philippines.
	We do have rainforest here.
	I'm Art Bell.
	Certainly is.
	I think I've got the answer here.
	Young Al was a little confused, but it's still an interesting subject.
	The headline is Green Light for Nuclear Fusion Project, so not so cold, very hot indeed.
	A seven-member international consortium signed a formal agreement on Tuesday to build a multi-billion dollar experimental nuclear fusion reactor that will emulate the nuclear processes of our sun.
	This is a new step in an exceptional adventure, according to the French spokesperson at the signing ceremony in Paris.
	The project aims to research a clean and limitless alternative to dwindling fossil fuel reserves, although nuclear fusion remains an unproven technology.
	Representatives from China, European Union, India, Japan, Russia, South Korea, and the U.S.
	signed the pact, sealing a decade of negotiations.
	The $12.8 billion reactor is to be built in southern France over the course of a decade, beginning in 2008.
	Originally called the International Thermonuclear Experimental Reactor, the facility is now known officially by its initials only as ITER, I-T-E-R, meaning the way.
	In Latin.
	So, it's not cold, it's hot, they're getting ready to build it.
	That's interesting, because I don't think we've really tamed nuclear fusion in a meaningful way yet, so building it already is absolutely fascinating.
	Alright, coming up in a moment, Bill McDonald's educational background is in the field of military aviation.
	Courtesy of the USMC, United States Marine Corps, and the California Army National Guard.
	Combined with forensic anthropology, his work experience was an undercover private investigator for over 12 years, working with major metropolitan police departments, federal agencies, and, of course, the military.
	At the time, he was a precision, fantasy, technical, scientific, and commercial illustrator who fell into forensics.
	McDonald received his BA degree from Cal State Fullerton in criminal justice.
	coming up in just a moment, Bill McDonald.
	This has all the markings of an interesting interview.
	Bill McDonald is known for his research into the Roswell crash.
	Military aerial encounters with UFO craft and his art illustration reconstructions of alien encounter events and hybrids.
	During these most recent several years, he and his family were forced to immerse themselves in the morphology of a particular behavioral disability which affected the entire family history.
	When the acute behaviors manifested in their youngest child, Bill, Could you explain to us the medical situation regarding your family?
	Yes, Art.
	And are you hearing me okay?
	I hear you just fine.
	Outstanding.
	Autism.
	It's a word that frightens a lot of people.
	It's an extremely difficult subject for many families to deal with.
	And it's one of the fastest growing segments of the population there is.
	Let's define autism.
	Autism is a host and a spectrum of behaviors where persons who, and as you know, we are primates and we are naturally very social with each other.
	But in autism, portions of the brain associated with familial relations are underdeveloped.
	And other portions of the brain regarding technical skills and, you know, calculation skills and even artistic skills overcompensate.
	As a result, these people tend to be extremely talented in one or two things, and they're very non-social or anti-social, or they experience delayed development as children in basic social skills.
	Actually, Bill, it really is even more, what's the right word, it's more incredible than you're laying out.
	I've had some autistic people on the air who are able to do calculations that a normal human being could not do with a calculator as quickly.
	I mean, it's just so amazing.
	Some of these autistic people have talents that are almost beyond the human ability to even understand.
	Those are what we call savants, and those are mathematical savants.
	And what happens is the portion of their brain that handles calculation and memorization of numbers and patterns overdevelops and overcompensates.
	And some of these people, it's very hard to get them to warm up to you.
	It's very hard to communicate with them.
	They develop obsessive compulsive disorders where they have to live daily patterns in a precise manner.
	And if you try to change up their routine at all, they become extremely upset and can even melt down.
	One of the most extreme cases is the very famous Rain Man case where Dustin Hoffman played the older brother of Tom Cruise in a movie.
	Where Dustin Hoffman was able to count cards at an enormously fast rate, and they went out to Las Vegas and basically cleaned up while rebuilding a relationship that had been destroyed as children.
	Do you remember that movie?
	I do.
	Okay.
	And I also have had people like the Human Calculator on my program.
	His social skills are pretty much intact, but he can do things that They're just not human, Bill.
	That's all there is to it.
	He can do numbers and all the rest of it, calculate things at a speed that nobody can keep up with on a calculator.
	It's mind-boggling, literally.
	That means that all our brains are really, if whatever is doing this manifests, all our brains are capable of this superhuman-type behavior.
	I guess.
	But in some autistic sort, the superhuman behavior has not yet manifested.
	They haven't found their talent.
	Right.
	And some of them are unable to care for themselves.
	For instance, and this is very hard for me, so please bear with me, but I'm bearing my soul tonight.
	I'm the father of a four-year-old.
	The four-year-old is at the developmental level in most of his life skills of a two-year-old.
	He is just now learning to talk.
	He is not yet able to, you know, use the potty.
	He is not yet able to, you know, prepare food for himself in the event that, you know, we're not home or anything like that.
	He's 100% dependent on us for just about everything.
	If he does not know how to articulate something with words, he will become frustrated and the frustration builds very quickly and it becomes volcanic.
	We then experience something called a meltdown, where the crying and screaming and carrying on, you know, just, you know, becomes hellish.
	And that's the other side of autism.
	It's the side that is so profoundly disturbing to everybody.
	It's the side that scares people.
	These children start out apparently normal at infancy, yet in some they cry for no reason, and no matter how hard their poor mothers try, they won't be comforted.
	They there's no amount of cuddling that'll make them feel comfort.
	So they cry and they cry and they cry and the mother becomes exhausted and exhausted and exhausted.
	And there is absolutely no relief for the mom.
	There's, you know, nobody that can help her, especially in a lot of these inner city environments.
	The money is only now starting to come in through states and school districts.
	But what's so frightening is Autism was unknown until around the turn of the century with the development of industry in England and then later here in the United States.
	In the rural farming communities, you may have an occasional person who's slightly off, but that person is encompassed by a large extended family and in the farming communities, they eventually find a niche where they're able to perform.
	In the more urban environments and in the more industrial environments, the situation becomes more pronounced.
	And in the year 2000, one child in every 5,000 was considered autistic within the spectrum of autistic behavior, which swings as wide as Bill Gates, who is the head of Microsoft, and Albert Einstein, who was the foremost physicist of our time.
	To a pendulum that swings the other way to where you have young adults in group homes who are still unable to bathe themselves without assistance.
	And the numbers in the late 90s, it was like one child in every 10,000.
	Then in the year 2000, it was like one child in every 5,000.
	Then in the year 2000, it was like one child in every 5,000.
	And then in the middle of 2006, it was one child in every 166.
	So we're seeing an explosive divergence within the human population.
	We're seeing an evolution or a de-evolution that is occurring, and it seems to be tied to mass electronic media bombardment within the habitat of human people.
	I was about to ask you what science knows about this, about autism period, what causes it, what brings it on, and you're saying the bombardment of modern media?
	The mass electronic media, the coming of MTV in the 1980s, and cell phones, and personal computers, and the internet, and PDAs, and pagers, and all of this.
	Created alterations in the environment, which, in my opinion, created alterations in the environment, and then the genome responded with mutations of its own.
	And because we care for these children, and we feed them, and we nurture them, and we raise them, for the most part, now some of them are badly abused by families who, in ignorance, don't know how to take care of them.
	And that happens all over the world, such as the kids that are sleeping in cages in Ohio and Romania.
	But these children are being nurtured, and so they are surviving.
	And more and more are being born, and many exhibit these savant-like behaviors, but many more have not found their niche yet.
	But for the ones that have, They're making, you know, explosive inroads within their own networking.
	Bill, let's run over these numbers again.
	Would you give me the years and the numbers one more time, please?
	Around 1996, it was estimated that one child in every 10,000 fell into Pervasive Developmental Disability Disorder, which included autism spectrum.
	In the year 2000, it was one child in every five.
	And you have to remember, most of these are little boys.
	One in how many?
	I'm sorry, one in how many?
	One in every 5,000.
	5,000.
	And then in 2006, it was one in every 166.
	5,000. 5,000. And then in 2006 it was one in every 166. Art, where's it going to be
	next year? My God, my God, look at that.
	1996, 1 in 10,000.
	2000, 1 in 5,000.
	2006, 1 in 166.
	1996, 1 in 10,000, 2000, 1 in 5,000, 2006, 1 in 166, my god!
	My God!
	And they're exploding even faster in Oregon.
	All right, you said this is either evolution or de-evolution.
	Yeah.
	And I would agree with you.
	We don't know, do we?
	We have no idea which it is.
	Well, you know how Brian Sykes has found problems with the Y-chromosome in the human male?
	Yes.
	And this problem is predominantly exhibited in human males.
	By what percentage, can you tell me?
	I don't have those numbers yet, but I'm starting to think that this may be connected to the Y-chromosome studies that Brian Sykes is doing.
	And we need to contact him and see if he can correlate some of his data with some of the autism data that's coming out of the University of Washington at Seattle and out of Harvard University.
	That's a reasonable scenario, certainly.
	And also is the question of evolution or de-evolution... When a primate... But your conclusion, your conclusion, Bill, that it is due to modern media, modern electronics, why and how... And the industrial revolution as a whole.
	How did you come to that conclusion?
	And again, it's only your opinion, right?
	It doesn't have scientific... It's my opinion, but I have, as a parent of an autistic child and an older boy who has, you know, of course, the hyperactivity, you know, the ADHD, ADD, what is the word I'm looking for?
	Diagnosis.
	I have tried to immerse myself in this as much as possible because, as a parent, I wanted to know why.
	What did I do to create this problem?
	But it wasn't me.
	It was my genetic history.
	There are people, going back along my patrilineal line, that fall right into the textbook examples of autism.
	My own father, who just came in two hours ago from Montana, he was a top, top government scientist.
	Who was sequestered in a think tank environment and he created, you know, some of the most amazing electronics for some of the most amazing weapon systems that the United States has fielded over the last 38 years.
	And his dad was, you know, an absolute savant when it came to steam and diesel engines on boats and trains.
	But that man was unable to function in a family environment, and he turned to alcohol.
	And the history of domestic abuse, you know, the generation past my father was just horrendous.
	Actually, Bill, my wife's brother's child, who frequently comes here to visit us, is in that category.
	Not necessarily autistic, although very young and we don't know yet.
	But this child is unable to keep still.
	I feel so sorry for the parents.
	I'm telling you right now, this child just...
	Runs, will do anything, cannot for one second sit still.
	It's a very sad situation and I'm trying to get my wife's brother to take the child to a doctor here and see what can be done.
	He needs to see a pediatric neurophysician.
	We have one, Dr. Amnon Kahani in Arizona.
	Who is very respected.
	He's actually from Israel and he has four separate degrees out of Harvard University.
	He's in his 70s and he still practices.
	And he helped me to realize what was going on, you know, very quickly.
	He took, you know, one look at Michael and, you know, assess the description of the behaviors at the time.
	And, you know, immediately we had a diagnosis that fit Uh, every one of his behaviors.
	And there's times when Michael's like that.
	And the state of Arizona has actually come up with funds to get us respite and habilitation, but there are no providers.
	There's just nobody that wants to take this on.
	They, it doesn't pay them enough money.
	They're usually 18 years old and just using it as a stepping stone between jobs while they were in college.
	And, um, You know, we were actually faced with the idea of moving to Birmingham, Alabama, where we might find better care in association with the University of Alabama at Birmingham.
	We just took the house off the market because the real estate market is so bad.
	It is bad.
	I feel so sorry for the parents.
	My wife and I have no respite.
	No rest.
	I know.
	The parents are just totally frazzled, Bill.
	I could be making tons of money traveling like I did last year for Steve Alton's publisher, but I can't do that because my wife, Laurie, absolutely needs A break.
	So I have to take a shift, she has to take a shift, and I work graveyard in order to work outside the home.
	I completely understand.
	Is this confirmed that the numbers that you gave me, 1996, 1 in 10,000, 2000, 1 in 5,000, 2006, 1 in 166, are these numbers confirmed?
	It was on the CNN and MSNBC and a whole bunch of other websites.
	I get all news all day long.
	166. Are these numbers confirmed? It was on the CNN and MSNBC and a whole bunch of
	other websites. I get all news all day long, I believe as do you. I get the news
	websites all day long.
	I have a laptop and a PC that I'm constantly checking.
	When Lori is working on our website, I'm checking my news websites and I'm working on my timeline project, which one of the government think tanks actually helped me out with the financing on, thank God, and God bless them.
	They made it possible for me to do a little bit of work at home here.
	What ended up happening was a lot of the information that was on these websites, a number of my physicist friends were also calling me up and saying, hey, Bill, did you see this?
	And hey, Bill, did you see that?
	So I've had a lot of help from them.
	All right, Bill, hold it right there.
	We're here at the bottom of the hour.
	Autism.
	My God, folks.
	1996, 1 in 10,000.
	2000, the year 2000.
	1 in 5,000.
	The year 2006, 1 in 166.
	Those are truly alarming, scary numbers.
	Is it evolution?
	Or is it de-evolution?
	And what to blame it on?
	in 2006, one in 166.
	Those are truly alarming, scary numbers.
	Is it evolution or is it de-evolution and what to blame it on?
	I'm Art Bell.
	My guest is Bill McDonald, bearing his soul about his family's situation.
	It's also in my wife's family, and it's unbelievably difficult to deal with.
	This child has been in our home many times, and it's difficult even to be near this child.
	I mean, it's that rough.
	So I cannot imagine the plight of parents In trying to deal with a situation like this, I just, I can't even imagine it.
	And I know that in the case that I've observed, the mother has sort of thrown up her arms and almost given up.
	Dad's the one who's kind of filling in the gaps.
	It's just incredibly difficult.
	But these numbers ought to scare the hell out of everybody.
	Autism.
	1996.
	1 in 10,000 births.
	The year 2000, that's four years later, 1 in 5,000.
	The year 2006, now 1 in 166.
	5,000. The year 2006, now, 1 in 166. Something is really going on. And if those numbers have
	not caused the alarm bells to be going off, they damn well are going off right now in
	my head, and they should be going off in everybody's heads.
	They should be scaring the fire out of you.
	I'm Art Bell.
	Bill McDonald is my guest.
	He has a theory that takes this beyond our Earth.
	coming up in a moment.
	Alright, I'm already getting a ton of feedback on this.
	Nate in Portland, Oregon says, hey Art, Autism Society of America confirms the prevalence of Autism 1 in every 166 births.
	So that is absolutely confirmed.
	Now, along with that, People are saying all kinds of things, you know, the usual things you hear.
	It's mercury in the fillings in the teeth.
	It's chemicals, pharmaceutical drugs, chemtrails.
	Absolutely not.
	All of the pesticides on food, on and on and on.
	Well, I'm just telling you what I'm getting here.
	Right.
	Let me correct that.
	That is a huge myth.
	And I need to stop that now.
	That's something that has been just irritating hell out of me for the last four years.
	Children with autism have a number of biophysical issues that crop up as a result of their autism.
	And one is they have far less of an ability to metabolize heavy metal ions within their bodies than do normal children.
	It's not the mercury in the injections that is making these kids autistic.
	It is because of the autism that these kids are unable to get rid of the mercury that is used as a fixative in those very same injections.
	So, the parents of autistic children need to say to themselves before they run out and get all the injections, how are we going to deal with You know, any excess of metals in our child's body and how is that going to work?
	Because he will not be able to eliminate those contaminants to the same degree as other children.
	Children with autism are unable to eliminate as efficiently as children without autism, generally speaking.
	They have digestive and bowel problems to a far greater degree, as also we have to deal with as parents.
	But that is just a huge mistake that a number of Coast guests and even more Coast listeners have made over the past four years that I have been the parent and that I have been aware of the history of autism in my family.
	We didn't know until just a year ago last summer that it wasn't just Michael who's autistic.
	I've been touched by it.
	How many times have I been on coast?
	God only knows, but an autistic guy has been talking to you guys.
	I've been on over 20 times, and I've been autistic the whole time, and I didn't know.
	My father, one of the top 11 government scientists serving at Strategic Systems Division in East Anaheim, California, for all of the years of the Cold War.
	Majorly autistic savant, probably in the Asperger's area of the spectrum, and his father as a ship's engineer and as a train engineer.
	You know, the industrial age changed the environment, and people went from the farms to the cities, and this created changes in the environment which accelerated With the information superhighway, with cable television, with every kind of radio broadcast there is, electronic mass-medium bombardment is a physiological effect.
	We all feel radio waves.
	We all feel electromagnetic waves going through us.
	That makes changes in the genome, and this is my opinion.
	I'm not a geneticist.
	Yeah, let's be clear about that.
	It's my opinion that changes got made in the genome, and as The information superhighway and as all of the telecommunications combine into a mass, you know, I like to call it a world net or sky net.
	As it becomes that, the effect on our bodies physiologically and in our genes is going to be represented.
	The same as if a bunch of volcanoes popped or if the atmosphere changed or if anything else in the environment changed.
	Electromagnetic spectrum, as it increased, Changes occurred in us, and I believe that that's the origins of it.
	And so you feel it had an effect on our genetic makeup, and then our children.
	Now, let's go back for a second, Bill, to the question of whether we're seeing evolution In process, you don't often get to see an evolutionary change in the human condition, certainly not in a human lifetime.
	So could it be an evolutionary change that's sort of only half done, or could it be, as you suggested also, could it be de-evolution?
	Something negative.
	Maverick paleoanthropologists.
	Some of them believe that the changes from Homo erectus to Homo sapiens came rapidly
	within key specific populations, which then expanded through breeding.
	And thus, the takeover occurred gradually, but the appearance of Homo sapiens from Homo erectus was sudden.
	Evolution comes in leaps and spurts rather than slow and steady, which Autism and a lot of the actual effects that are in the brain, increased perfusion in the frontal areas of the brain, the frontal lobes, hyperperfusion in the region of the left amygdala is actually measured with SPECT for magnetic resonance imaging.
	Whole portions of autistic adults and autistic children's brains That are normally warm colored in regular folks when dealing with emotional subjects show cold.
	They have fewer neurons mirror neurons that, you know, the mirroring behavior, which is how we learn a lot of our social skills.
	The neurons that connect those parts of the brain that allow for mirroring are reduced.
	They're not as many of them.
	However, you see overdevelopment in areas of the right hemisphere, those parts of the brain where people produce art or where people do exotic mathematical calculations.
	Well, at this point, Bill, you could view this as an evolutionary partial leap within our lifetimes that we're seeing, or you could look at it as de-evolution.
	Which way are you looking at it?
	Well, I'm seeing it as a little bit of both.
	It's de-evolution because we are primates, and primates are enormously social animals.
	The social order within primate kinship groups It's how they've managed to survive for between 20 and 30 million years.
	And now, all of a sudden, the key component in the survival of primates and apes and humans is suddenly being de-emphasized.
	And you can physiologically demonstrate how it's being de-emphasized as you scan the brain with MRIs.
	And these People are living in many cases, such as the children that are being raised in cages in, you know, Romania and Czechoslovakia and Ohio.
	I mean, you know, the lifestyle is being reduced, the quality of life is being reduced for many of these people, even as some of the savant types, like my father, ...were nurtured and given their own special place by industry.
	Captains of industry took people like my father and gave them a special little environment where they could come up with some of the most amazing enhancements in microelectronics and in optical imaging.
	My dad did a lot of the top-secret photo-optical imaging and the electronic stuff that went into spy satellites.
	And now he's 70-something years old.
	He's got both types of diabetes.
	He's having a very hard time, but he's managing to take some of this photo-optical research that he did for spy satellites, and he's building gun sites that are going to be sold at both Walmart and straight to the Pentagon.
	All right.
	You feel there's some kind of connection between autism and some of the gray alien groups operating?
	Well, now let's take a look at this before people go, oh my God, he just fell off the deep end.
	Well, right.
	I've been interviewing abductees for years, long before I knew there was autism in my family, and what they describe are beings that probably originated from some kind of primate origin, but they act more like insects in a hive than like mammals in a social environment.
	That's right.
	You have a technological class, you have an administrative class, and then you have the ancient arbiters.
	It's kind of like the ancient government of Israel that was ruled by the judges.
	And I believe those praying mantis-type gray aliens are the leaders of each of the factions that operate like caravans of Bedouins out in space.
	But that's part of my Oasis Earth hypothesis theory that I have shared with you on multiple occasions in the past, you and George.
	But getting back to the gray aliens, the technician class, the workers and the neonate ones, which look like human fetuses where they were stopped in the gestation process during sometime during the second trimester and artificially matured.
	They in the smaller grays that act like technicians or servants or worker bees, if you will.
	It's very hive-like, and I've seen two structures within our own environment where that is seen, and one of them is when you have groups of autistics working in a technical environment, such as for Microsoft, and the other is the extreme obedience that you see in Japanese and Asian corporate culture in general.
	Oh yes?
	As you know, I argued and bickered with a number of fellow researchers for years who told me the grey aliens are time travelers.
	I said, no, they're probably from the Zeta Reticuli.
	Well, now all of a sudden, the J-Rod stories start to make sense.
	So, I'm not prepared to say that all greys are time travelers, but I am now prepared to say that some Grey factions may actually be future wings of humanity that have come back in time, and I believe that the origin for those greys probably came from autism organizations, you know, and corporations that incorporated and enhanced
	You know, the capabilities of autistics while de-emphasizing the social skills.
	I think I know exactly, Bill, where you're going.
	Let me see if I can kind of put this together.
	There have been many, many, Bill, who have said that the aliens visiting Earth now who are taking people, doing experiments, that it's all Genetically related and that what they're looking at is an attempt to somehow refresh their genetic line because perhaps they have become, perhaps those of us on earth, a future earth, have become so autistic, so hive-like
	That they've lost all emotional capability or most emotional capability.
	They've become essentially all autistic and they're back here trying to recapture what, according to the numbers you gave me, we're in the process of losing right now.
	Is that on target?
	You're absolutely on target.
	Think about it.
	The anecdotal evidence suggests that exact pattern and trend.
	It really does.
	Doesn't it?
	How can these numbers be true without the world?
	Let me ask you this, Bill.
	Are these numbers known to be true worldwide?
	Is this a North American problem or is it a worldwide problem?
	The evidence that I have read strongly suggests that these numbers are true for industrial areas of Europe, Russia, The United States, portions but not all of China, portions, the heavily industrial portions of India, and where rural farming and hunting and gathering persists, it is almost non-existent.
	My God!
	So wherever technology and industry has become the predominant economic structure, you have This behavior, this class of persons being born, and where they continue to practice life on the farm in the rural areas, you see, comparatively speaking, almost none of it.
	Oh my God.
	I don't know what to say.
	It makes too much sense.
	I could talk data with you for the next few weeks.
	I'd like to know, Bill, how you came to the conclusion, I'm not saying you're wrong, that the communications we now have, the electromagnetic waves that pass through our bodies every day are responsible as opposed to some other aspect of modern industrial life.
	Because it has effected more profound changes faster.
	on our society than any other influence whatsoever.
	Well, I mean, some of the people that, excuse me, I don't mean to interrupt, some of the
	people that are there suggesting pesticides, that are suggesting mercury or immunizations
	that are given in the modern industrial world.
	These are also common to the modern industrial world as is electromagnetic radiation in large quantities.
	Yes?
	It could be any combination of it.
	Everything that we're looking at, it could be the, all of the above.
	I'm only going by what I can examine.
	You have to understand, I'm a detective.
	That's my training.
	And what I do is I look for common patterns and trends in testimony and information, regardless of the source.
	When consistent patterns of information apply and dovetail, I tend to give it more credence.
	Dovetail with the main patterns I tend to set aside or discard depending on how silly it seems.
	And this is just simply my way of looking at it.
	It's my view.
	It's my correlations.
	That's fine.
	Yeah, the numbers are not your opinion, though.
	They are the numbers.
	The numbers are facts, and I wouldn't have gone on coast with just my opinions.
	You're right.
	You're right.
	But why I'm hearing it from you on this show, and why it hasn't been headline news everywhere yet, I'm not sure.
	It has been in the headline news.
	It's been... Not enough.
	No, you're absolutely right.
	Not enough.
	There you go.
	All right.
	Let's look at abductions for a moment.
	When you're an investigator and when you look at the behavior in abduction stories, what is it that leads you to believe specifically that this is exactly the problem that they're working on?
	Well, several key clues came together and some of those clues Dovetailed each other very strangely.
	One of them was that geneticists, besides Brian Sykes, were looking at problems with the Y-chromosome and the male ability to reproduce in the next 5,000 generations.
	Another problem that came about was various Morphologies and psychologies that are starting to assert themselves as technology and industry.
	And again, the information superhighway takes over from 5000 years of agrarian economy and agrarian development for our societies.
	There are social changes that are occurring more rapidly just in the last 30 years.
	All right.
	Hold tight, Bill.
	We're at the top of the hour.
	My God, this is scary stuff.
	Autism.
	1996, 1 in 10,000.
	2000, the year 2000, 1 in 5,000.
	The year 2006, 1 in 166.
	problems are clustering right in those same locations.
	Patterns are coalescing.
	All right, hold tight Bill.
	We're at the top of the hour.
	My God, this is scary stuff.
	Autism, 1996, one in 10,000.
	2000, the year 2000.
	One in 5,000.
	The year 2006, one in 166.
	This is a major change.
	Remember that story I read you earlier about the virgin births of some lizards?
	Trouble with the Y chromosome.
	Right on target.
	From Manila in the Philippines, I'm a very concerned Art Bell.
	So excited.
	I don't know about that.
	So concerned.
	Would fit a bit more easily.
	Bill McDonald is my guest and he has brought with him some absolutely shocking stories.
	Not stories.
	Facts.
	The first part of what he has brought us is absolute fact.
	And I bet you didn't know.
	I certainly didn't.
	Autism is not just on the rise, it's going through the roof, literally going through the roof.
	Autism, 1996, one birth in 10,000.
	The year 2000, one birth in 5,000.
	The year 2006, one birth in 166.
	What's happening to us?
	Is it some sort of evolutionary change?
	The year 2006, one birth in 166.
	What's happening to us?
	Is it some sort of evolutionary change?
	Is it some sort of de-evolutionary change?
	Are the greys involved?
	Yeah, that's beginning to get out on a limb, but if you look carefully at what's been done during times when human beings have been taken, I'm afraid it fits, doesn't it?
	Think very hard about what the graves have been said to do to human beings.
	What they want.
	What they're after.
	The genetic experimentation that's been going on.
	Even cows and other animals have been taken.
	And the experiments that have gone on.
	Think hard about it.
	Think hard about these numbers.
	And it just may be that Bill, unfortunately, is dead on the money.
	Bill you cite the Asian model of corporate culture, de-emphasizing individual initiative
	over obedience, conformity, the evolving structure of the mammalian primate hive.
	Well, you know, actually, the Asian model is beginning to change.
	It was like that, Bill.
	It's not as much like that anymore.
	If anything, the Asian culture has begun to move away from the hive.
	mentality of the corporate culture has slowly begun to move away from it.
	In fact, if you look at Japanese teenagers, they are beginning to rebel in large numbers and becoming rather individualistic.
	That's a change that has been occurring in Japan.
	But it's a good model, I guess, when you're comparing it to the numbers you gave me on autism earlier.
	That's wonderful news, Art, because I haven't been in the Far East since 1994.
	So, it's been a while.
	I made probably six or seven extended trips from, say, 1987 through 1994, and a major business deal was destroyed in the Kobe earthquake, and I haven't been back since.
	So, if those changes are occurring, I'm thrilled.
	Absolutely.
	Moving back, though, to the abductees, how did you put all that together?
	I mean, how did you get from these alarming numbers with autism to the graves?
	I mean, I can see how you got there.
	I just kind of want you to explain to the audience.
	Well, I've interviewed probably over 1,200 people since 1991 who claimed to be abducted, and out of those, 248 were stories by people whose stories you couldn't break.
	People who had a military or an intelligence community pedigree.
	People who were just down-home honest like Whitley Straber and Ann Straber.
	People who were trustworthy and people who clearly were not the victims of child sexual abuse.
	Persons who were not psychotic to some degree.
	People who weren't struggling with new combinations of neurosis and depression and as a result You know, I then looked at their stories, and I compared them to other people's stories, and it was those 248 stories that then coalesced and conformed into patterns and trends, which ended up in the illustrations that I produced over the last 12 to 14 years.
	And so, it was a gradual process.
	I didn't just wake up one morning and decide this stuff.
	This has been going on since 1992 that I've started to see patterns and things that we're developing.
	But when you become the parent of a child who has pervasive developmental disorder and autism spectrum disorder, Then these patterns that you've worked with in the UFO community for years suddenly scream at you because you're staring it in the face.
	It's right there in front of you, in your own mirror.
	Boy, I really hear that, Bill.
	That would lead one toward believing that the human race is moving very quickly, alarmingly fast, toward a disastrous situation.
	Well, one wing of it is, and another wing of it's going to end up in the human version of Purgatory, which is what I think the Greys are.
	And another version of it, if we're lucky, a small wing of it, will end up like Yuri Geller and my wife, and they will end up evolving the way Arthur Clarke had expressed his hopes for at least some of us to transcend from the ape to the angel.
	And I believe in all of those possible patterns, and I think that specific populations, you know, have the opportunity to go in those multiple directions, and I think that there will end up being multiple species of humanity again, the way there were in the past, until our particular subspecies wiped out all the others.
	But this is happening too fast.
	Too fast, Bill.
	Is there any way to know, or even guess, From how far in the future these greys are coming to try and correct what obviously became a disaster?
	Is there any way to know?
	Well, yeah, there is.
	When you take a look at a chimpanzee and you take a look at us, the Human Genome Program has demonstrated that the DNA of Pantroglodytes, which is the bargain basement chimpanzee You know, like the ones that Jane Goodall takes care of out in Gombe.
	It's 96.4% identical between our DNA and their DNA.
	That's right.
	Then there is another species of chimpanzee called Panpeniscus, which is known as the bonobo or the pygmy chimpanzee.
	And their DNA is almost 98% identical to us.
	And then you look at From Pan Paniscus, you look at Australopithecus afarensis, where the new baby was found out in Ethiopia, and you look at Lucy, and you look at the other models of Australopithecus afarensis, which are clearly bridge species between the common chimp ancestor that needed to stand up in the tall grass to not get ambushed by scimitar-toothed cats.
	to where we are now, and you're looking at approximately 4 million years.
	Now, you look at the radical differences in the gray alien's body, and what you're seeing is a primate that's designed for a microgravity environment, or a minimalist gravity environment.
	You're seeing large eyes, which suggest A darkened and artificial environment where there are no sharp edges because the reason why you and I have eyes that are very small in comparison to our total body mass art is because there are sharp branches and tree limbs and rocks and all kinds of sharp objects that can put an eye out.
	So nature has evolved eyes to be small.
	But with these beings, eyes are larger.
	That means that they're living in artificially constructed environments.
	They're more protected.
	Their bodies are reduced in mass.
	Their brains are enlarged in mass.
	That suggests microgravity, orbital, or artificial habitats that exist between the stars.
	The star child that Loi Pai had, everybody who's gone to my website has seen that I am directly Directly opposed to him as far as the Starchild being of extraterrestrial origin.
	He brought those skulls to my house.
	I saw the severely reduced neck attachment points surrounding the entrance where the medulla oblongata plugs into the brain through, you know, from the spinal cord into the skull.
	And that told me something that was very profound.
	I was looking at a human being that had showed a mutation That made it ideal for life on a space station.
	And so, when you look at the gray aliens, and you look at us, and assuming the gray aliens came from a primate origin as we do, we're probably looking at beings where their technology is probably about 10,000 years in advance, but where probably up to 2 million years of, you know, time Between our stage and their stage.
	Alright, well if they're traveling in time, to get back here to correct some genetic malfunction over time, some genetic disaster, Then obviously, not all of it is de-evolution, because their science has, despite the problems that are growing at an incredibly fast rate right now, somehow there have been enough savants, apparently, who made it to the other side to be traveling in time to get back here to try to do this.
	Well, from that standpoint, you're correct.
	But it's de-evolution because they're no longer able to reproduce.
	Well, we're looking at, again, my opinion based on all information, anecdotal and otherwise, that's come in my direction in the last 12-14 years.
	We're looking at, and as you know, other researchers have disagreed with me, but I think the majority of the grey aliens, especially the ones of extraterrestrial or non-terrestrial origin, I believe that they are all completely sterile females.
	And there are no males.
	Hey, Bill, you mentioned earlier the trouble with Y-chromosome, right?
	Exactly, it's all connected.
	Well, I read a story in the first hour, more and more animals, more and more creatures, for example, the Komodo lizard, are becoming suddenly able to have what we regard as virgin births.
	Yeah, now Art, that's been known in fish and frogs forever.
	Most lizard herpetologists, those are diapsid animals, which are your birds and your lizards.
	Many of the herpetologists will tell you that that is not unknown in lizard birds as well.
	Oh, that's right.
	No, but nature finds a way.
	Absolutely, nature does.
	But what I'm going to suggest is that several things.
	First of all, we can't really compare the lizard situation to the humanoid or the primatoid situation.
	And the reason why is because sexual diversification in lizards and in reptiles is not the same as it is in humans.
	A Y chromosome determines, the X and the Y chromosomes determine sex based upon whether you're male or you're female sex cells in the male.
	You know, you and I determine the sex of your little baby that's coming and my children that I already have.
	It's not that way with the reptiles and the birds and the dinosaurs.
	Temperature of the eggs in the nests determines whether you have more males or more females with crocodiles and birds.
	My overall point was that nature finds a way, and if the Y chromosome eventually breaks down, though we certainly might not see scientifically how it could occur today, I imagine nature would find a way.
	Well, nature finds a way in their case.
	Intellectually, they learned how to replicate organisms and how to infuse fresh DNA from compatible species.
	They found an artificial way to extend themselves several thousand generations.
	However, many generations they need in order to build the heirs, which are the hybrids that will replace them, who will inherit their technologies and their artificially intelligent vehicles that these beings have to be able to interface with.
	You know, there's another whole wing of my theory that goes off into how they navigate across the stars and how they warp drive their way here.
	And it requires artificial intelligence.
	It doesn't work, according to the guys I've talked to in Silicon Valley, unless you can figure out a way to distribute the processing in order to achieve convergent solutions, in order to affect a prescribed emergent behavior.
	In order to do that, And in order to do that in such a way that the system doesn't break down, the suggestion is that you need multiple brain nodes, multiple processors, and the ideal candidates is the flight crew themselves.
	Organic beings become the multiple processors that interface directly with the artificial cortex and the operating system and the flight control systems of their Starcraft.
	Well, I hate to say it, but all this does fit together for me.
	Now, I think art, autistics art, can you imagine them as star pilots?
	Especially with the behavioral characteristics that they show?
	I can.
	They would be the perfect people.
	I don't know if you remember Larry Niven's story, there was two of them that he wrote about a guy who was cybernetically interfaced to a spacecraft and he went to Venus And he went to Mercury.
	He was calmed in Hell.
	He was in one very cold environment and one very hot environment.
	And he was interfaced directly with the spacecraft.
	Now what I'm suggesting is that Larry Niven actually got it right.
	That someday, some astronauts, who are destined to be helmsmen, will be interfaced with their spacecraft permanently.
	And that the navigators will be remote viewers.
	Especially if you're jumping to hyperspace or dropping to subspace or folding space, because computers are not going to be able to crunch the kind of numbers, and sensors are not going to be able to observe gravity wells the same way in hyperspace that they do in normal four-dimensional space-time.
	So I'm suggesting that the only way for these people to get where they want, when they want, and in the correct dimension, It's going to be if the navigators are remote viewing the course and the course corrections and the pilots are then, you know, initiating the space fault.
	Well, I'll tell you what, Bill, before I turn over my navigation of something doing that speed to a remote viewer, I'd have to have a lot more confidence in the percentage of reliability of remote viewers.
	Well, I've talked to Hal Puthoff.
	You've heard me use his name before and I have his permission to.
	But I've run all of these concepts and ideas by him on numerous occasions as I was putting together my Oasis Earth Hypothesis manuscript, and what ended up happening was, I gave Hal, and I gave Eric Davis, these people are, Eric has been a guest of yours and George's before, and I gave them a chance to take me to the woodshed, and to this day they have not.
	That makes me feel real good, especially considering that I'm a detective and not a physicist.
	I'm a detective and not a geneticist.
	I am a detective and not a physician.
	But, I'm the father of an autistic child, and I have 248 abductees that depended upon me to understand what they were trying to convey to me.
	Experiences that terrified them.
	Experiences That for the majority were negative.
	There were a few that found the experiences nurturing.
	There were a few that feel lucky to have been, you know, involved in, you know, contact.
	But the majority would have preferred not to.
	The majority don't want to go on TV.
	They don't want me releasing their names.
	No, that's right.
	I know.
	I know.
	Have you run all this by a geneticist?
	I have spoken with several people at the University of Arizona in Tempe, ASU actually, Arizona State University.
	I've run it by a couple of people, including a roommate.
	I used to live with a biogenetic researcher, you know, a temporary one-year arrangement way back when in the early 90s before I met my wife.
	They found my concepts fascinating.
	They weren't, you know, anti, you know, the information that I was conveying.
	They had some problems with it because, at that time, the human genome had not been sequenced.
	A lot has changed since the Europeans and the Americans did their separate, you know, gene sequencing and, you know, the completion of the Human Genome Program in 2003.
	And suddenly, a lot of the ideas that I had back in the 90s Are believable now.
	They're, you know, now they've gone beyond the realm of fantasy and into the realm of possibility.
	And so I'm feeling more confident, not less, in my opinions.
	Have there been any responses from geneticists to these alarming autism numbers?
	Well, now, there again we got a problem.
	You know how You should hear more microbiologists yelling and screaming because of the unusual attrition in their rates, but you don't.
	Geneticists, for some reason they keep their mouths shut.
	You don't hear a lot from them.
	And I think that probably it has to do with tenure and them getting a regular paycheck.
	Yeah.
	Here we are again.
	Listen, Bill, hold tight.
	We're at a break point.
	We always come down to that, don't we?
	Somebody's research not getting out to the public.
	Why?
	Because they're worried about tenure.
	Understandably, they're worried about feeding their family.
	They're worried about their careers.
	And I guess some science just doesn't Doesn't make it into the social fabric because it's too damn scary.
	But if these numbers are correct, and I have every reason to believe they are, we should all be scared to death.
	Hello, everybody.
	Good day.
	This one is really, really scary.
	There's a, for example, I went to, somebody sent me a little link and here I am.
	The advent of a possible autism epidemic has become a concern in many communities around the globe as a number of reported cases of autism has increased dramatically over the past decade.
	Members of the medical and scientific community are generally quite skeptical about characterizations of the increasing numbers as indicators of an epidemic.
	They're worried about using that word.
	These scientists attribute the dramatic raise in autism rates to more effective and inclusive diagnostic criteria and detection tools.
	Now that's worth asking about and in a moment we'll ask Bill McDonald about that.
	Nobody is arguing with these numbers.
	I'm sorry to say, it's absolutely true.
	Once again, so that if you just joined the program, you understand what we're talking about.
	In 1996, 1 in 10,000 in the population became autistic.
	In the year 2000, four years later, it was 1 in 5,000.
	In other words, doubled.
	And now in the year 2006, it's 1 in 166.
	And they're afraid to use the word epidemic.
	My God.
	And what they say further down in this article I'm reading is, Authors have speculated, important word, that genetic causes, pollution, food additives, or childhood vaccinations may play roles.
	It is clear, however, that at least some part of the rise is due to diagnosis because of increased screening.
	Now, Bill, I'd like you to...
	Comment on that.
	We covered everything else.
	The pollution, the food additives, the vaccinations, the mercury.
	But what about simply... I can't imagine in a million years that better screening could account for these kinds of numbers.
	Can you?
	Well that has been brought up to me a number of times over the last several years.
	And you know it's a reasonable inference because Let's see, how can I put this?
	As people moved from rural to urban environments, and as economies changed from agrarian, which is the culture of growing food, to industrial, which is manufacturing, and then the internet came along, People started to recognize, you know, varying degrees of mental illness and varying degrees of behavioral disabilities and personality disorders to a greater degree, especially in a more concentrated population.
	The other thing that was brought up to me is that when you are in a more concentrated population and as population density increases, That, in essence, creates and exasperates, you know, much lesser problems.
	It causes, you know, the proverbial infection of an already existing wound.
	It causes mental illnesses and personality disorders to fester in far more dramatic ways than if these persons were, you know, living out in the more rural communities.
	And there has to be some truth in that because my college degree was in criminal justice and, you know, my interest was deviant psychology and biosociology.
	That was something that, you know, I went to school for.
	And I applied those backgrounds as a private investigator working undercover and in some very dangerous assignments.
	And I saw the truth of what I had been taught in college.
	And that statement, you know, makes a lot of sense.
	The problem is the degree of the exponential degree of the explosion of autism.
	It's just, it's way out of proportion to cancer, and it's way out of proportion to other types of mental illness.
	I completely agree.
	And Art, it's way out of proportion to the one mental illness that is in 80% of everybody's families, and that is depression.
	It's way out of proportion, even to depression.
	Now, just because we're comparing it statistically to depression, don't get the idea that autism is a mental illness.
	There are changes in the brain that can be measured by MRIs.
	And some people like to call it a disorder and some people like to call it a syndrome, but these are actual physical connectivity changes in the brain.
	Nerve structures.
	...are de-emphasized in portions of the brain, especially concerning the left parietal lobes and the neocortex on the left side, and they tend to be more emphasized on the right side in most autistics.
	Now, that can be reversed, especially if they're left-handed instead of right-handed.
	The amygdala is affected, and as you know, there are people who are You know, very heavily into, you know, exploring, you know, the amygdala and what it can do, you know, as far as their lifestyle and their mindset is concerned.
	Right.
	You have an amygdala guy that's a regular guest to George's.
	The problem, again, is the statistics.
	These kids are popping up faster.
	I just got some incredible emails.
	I'm answering my emails as I talk on the radio.
	I've got a PC on one side of me and a laptop on the other.
	And what's going on right now is I've got people that I haven't talked to in almost 10 years, very dear friends, and they know who they are, who are just now sharing with me that their child is suffering from, you know, delayed development and, you know, stuff related to autism spectrum disorder and pervasive, you know, developmental disability.
	And they're connecting it directly to DPT shots that their children received as infants.
	I have another person, an expert, a physician, who's telling me about all the pesticides that are being sprayed in the forests and farmlands of Oregon right now because of the lack of regulation in Oregon.
	And that there is a movement in the state of Oregon trying to directly connect the explosion of autism with the amount of pesticides that are getting sprayed.
	And your theory is electromagnetic radiation.
	Well, look, it's one of these things.
	Well, the internet is everywhere, and television is everywhere where the spraying is.
	And so, there's really no way at this point to prove or disprove either theory.
	There's no way.
	Again, these are such alarming numbers, Bill, that the fact that it has not been more of Serious front-page type scientific reporting on this is... I mean, I've got to hear it from Bill McDonald on Coast to Coast AM.
	Well, I'm not the first one to report it, though.
	I'm sure you're not.
	Darryl Sims did an interview, and I don't remember if it was with you or George, but it was his last most recent interview, and he stated at that time that he is directly researching the correlation between autism and alien abduction.
	Now, he did not go into a whole lot of detail on the show about that, and when I called him up, he shared information with me which he would prefer that I not speak in regards to, because it's his research.
	And what I want to do is give him credit for actually going public with that first.
	I've been believing in this connection for a long time.
	And then it became shockingly, shockingly apparent to me when I suddenly discovered that I was the parent of an autistic child.
	But Daryl, you know, he was the first one to go public on that, so we have to acknowledge that Daryl has been doing research in this area.
	Well that's fine, but whether it's you or it's Daryl, it's not the New York Times front page, it's not the CBS Evening News lead story.
	Why isn't Katie Couric doing something with this?
	She has a free speech segment.
	I'd be happy to sit there and talk about this for 40 seconds.
	I would love to do the free speech segment on Katie Couric's broadcast.
	I mean, when it gets down to one in 166 births, it's a change in all of humanity, Bill, that requires more than just Bill McDonald or anybody else you've named.
	It requires international attention.
	Chinese news organizations are starting to share information on autism in China.
	Really?
	That's true.
	And that's a shocker considering how very quiet they always are regarding anything negative
	related to their culture.
	That's true.
	The only reason this makes so much sense with the abduction, the whole abduction thing,
	we've always wondered what is this about?
	Why are they curious about our emotions?
	Why are they curious about our genetics?
	Why are they experimenting on us?
	And the problem with all this is, it answers all of that.
	Well, the replication process requires infusions of fresh DNA art, because otherwise, if you're just doing clones of clones of clones It's the same problem as if I take one of my original pieces of artwork and I do a Xerox of it and then I do a Xerox of that Xerox and then a Xerox of that Xerox and a Xerox of that Xerox.
	Information starts to drop out and at some point that genome becomes non-viable.
	So the infusion of fresh DNA and You know, the filling in of those portions of the DNA code, the dropout, is critical.
	Gene sequencing with each new generation is absolutely hypercritical because otherwise you're going to end up with a virus, a tumor, or, you know, a lump of, you know, aborted flesh rather than, you know, the little person that you're trying to, you know, breed through artificial means.
	Replication is as far beyond cloning As, you know, ham radio is beyond a child's crystal radio set.
	Bill, is there any indication at all that the government, though not publicly saying anything, is very well aware of this and on top of it in some way that we're not being told about?
	Yes.
	The Department of Health and Human Services.
	Autism is one of the number one things at the cabinet level.
	The problem again is budget.
	You can't pour the kind of money into autism that you'd like to when you're fighting a war on terrorism.
	And I don't want anybody to get the idea that I'm leaning, you know, toward liberal persuasion.
	If we don't keep sending our boys overseas, it's going to be our shopping malls where the suicide bombers turn up because I have, you know, documentation of fatwas where they're planning on killing Americans
	because, and they want to do it in cities where American industry produces pornography,
	where American women get naked, where television is produced.
	They're not going to stop.
	They're not going to stop.
	Good luck, Hollywood.
	Yeah.
	They are not going to stop.
	As long as there is a Las Vegas, an Atlantic City, a Hollywood, and a porn industry big in Los Angeles, New York, and Hong Kong, they're not going to stop.
	It's a religion of it's our way or death.
	And so, you know, autism has to take a back burner to war.
	Unfortunately for us parents, we're not getting any respite, and that's where private corporations and church organizations need to pick up the ball.
	A lot of the democratic agenda could be carried by church organizations and private industry, and they could use it in their advertising if for no other reason, and they could do a lot of good and help out a lot of people and let the government maintain its primary business of protecting us.
	And, you know, that in a nutshell is my politics.
	But the situation, why is it not in the New York Times?
	You know, right now there is no political advantage to any candidate wanting on either side of the aisle to talk about autism because there's no money for autism.
	There's not going to be any money for autism.
	Autism In order to explore and possibly even influence autism, they'd have to spend all of the money that they're putting into the NASA budget to go to the moon into autism, and they still might not get anywhere.
	Bill Gates and all those people are about to put a ton of money, billions upon billions upon billions of dollars into research on AIDS.
	And what's going to happen?
	No sooner are they going to get done.
	Figuring out how to vaccinate people against the A variant and the B variant and the C variant of HIV, all of a sudden the D variant and the E variant are going to pop up out of Africa, and the new versions of this replicatable virus are going to once again, you know, start preying upon our species, which is massively overpopulated anyway.
	Because I believe that that's part of the natural scheme of things.
	That's how Earth maintains her checks and balances.
	You know, get too many rabbits in Australia and all of a sudden the rabbits get sick from disease and massive portions of the population die off.
	Bill, do you think autism is part of that same chain?
	It's hard to tell, because some of the most incredible musicians on the planet, who are also the most anti-social, are clearly autistic.
	Oh yes.
	Guys like Bill Gates... I'm just saying, you just gave us some pretty good examples of Mother Nature saying, there's too many of you here, and so we're going to keep coming up with variants of things that kill... I understand that.
	It's a mutation.
	Well, we don't think it's a virus.
	We don't know.
	We don't even know that, do we?
	You know, you're absolutely right.
	But it looks like a mutation.
	It looks more like a mutation than anything.
	It's like that Starchild skull that Lloyd Pye's got.
	It looks more like a mutation than anything else.
	Okay, but we don't know what it is.
	I mean, you just recited, I thought, a pretty good example of one effect of overpopulation, and that is AIDS, which compromises the human immune system, and it continues to morph Faster than we can come up with ways to slow it down.
	Yeah, but autistics are well able to reproduce.
	I mean, I'm barely touched by it, but you know, I mean, I can get a lady pregnant at the drop of a hat.
	Autistic people can reproduce.
	If anything, they might be less responsible in their reproduction than, you know, others.
	Autism is Genetically passed on?
	We know that for certain?
	Well, again, all the research indicates that there is a parental heritage or heritage along the patrilineal line in many families.
	However, autism also occurs spontaneously in families where there is no known history.
	It would have to, with those kinds of numbers that you've cited, and you are correct about, it would have to.
	Right now, you're probably going to get a ton of emails that are going to say yes.
	There is an absolute family history, and you're also going to get a ton of emails that say yes, it occurs spontaneously in families.
	And it's going to be true in both cases.
	Like, for instance, we look at my father, we look at my great-grandfather and my grandfather, And yeah, they were clearly autistic.
	We look at my older son, and he's an extremely high-functioning Asperger, and probably the most well-liked child I've ever seen in my life.
	Every adult on the planet adores that boy.
	Then there's my younger son, Michael, and he's the one who is so difficult to deal with.
	I go to Walmart, a little old lady says, hi little boy, and she goes to stroke his cheek, and he spits in her eye.
	Then that woman's son follows me out into the parking lot, telling me that I'm training my son to spit the way an organ grinder trains a monkey, threatening to beat me up.
	So then I get ready to, you know, get into a fight and the security guards jump in and save the day.
	But, I mean, you know, that is one of the situations that I have to deal with as a parent.
	You know, my little son won't wear clothes.
	You know, it got cold here in Arizona all of a sudden.
	You know, it was like 58 degrees and then 55 degrees in the daytime and he was pulling off his shirt and the fellow Christmas shoppers were looking at my wife like she was the worst mother ever.
	And they have no clue what we have to go through.
	This kid won't wear clothes.
	This is all incredibly alarming, and too much of this is making sense to me.
	It's going to be very interesting, Bill, to see what the audience has to say about this.
	We've covered a lot of the potential ground for what this could be, so that's exactly what we're going to do.
	If it's okay with you, Bill, when we come back, as we normally do...
	But I also want to announce tonight about the big black triangle sighting.
	Are you willing to do that as well?
	Oh, of course.
	We'll get to that as we come back.
	Because it turns out, Art, you're not a liar.
	Well, of course I'm not a liar.
	No, I mean, my point is, you know, my whole paradigm has changed.
	Yeah.
	Well, we'll get to that when we come back, and then we'll go to the phones with Bill McDonald.
	If this hasn't been a night to light up your brain, then, uh, well, maybe there's been a little too much Christmas cheer.
	I'm Art Bell.
	Though they're perhaps related and not related in a way.
	Before we get to phone lines with Bill, Bill has had a recent sighting, apparently very similar to the one Ramona and myself had years ago, of a large, silent triangle.
	A triangular craft that was well documented on the ABC special and I think many of you have seen it all over the place.
	I know that special has aired elsewhere since ABC.
	So in a moment, we'll get to Bill McDonald, the triangle story, and then your calls.
	All right, in a moment to the phones with Bill McDonald.
	But just before we do that, I understand, Bill, that you're now a member of the Triangle
	Club.
	Yes, Art, and let's see, how can I put this?
	I've spent a year being extremely angry to the point of just being beside myself.
	I discovered that I don't like Um, being a UFO witness and I never was a UFO witness.
	I was a researcher and I was happy and I drew other people's UFOs and I drew other people's aliens and I created, you know, um, designations for classes of vehicle and everything, working with military personnel, the whole thing.
	And I was having a blast.
	And then I, um, went to work at night, which I do after, you know, doing my shift through childcare.
	And, um, not just a UFO, but the biggest damn thing that you could ever imagine flew right over my head.
	And, you know, that's why I've been so quiet this year.
	That's why very few people in UFO community have heard from me.
	I didn't know whether to report it or not report it.
	I didn't know what it would do, you know, to my reputation.
	I just didn't know.
	I had the same problem, Bill.
	Well, Dr. Bob Wood, you know, He made me promise to report it.
	So, I wrote a witness statement the day after I saw it, and I have done a report of investigation bracketing my statement.
	So, if you are in Arizona, listeners, and you work for either the Salt River Project or are an air traffic controller or somebody riding a radar set at either Williams Gateway Airport in southeast Maricopa County, Or Falcon Field, which is the Mesa Municipal Airport, or even Sky Harbor.
	You know, contact me, get a hold of me, either through Coast to Coast's website or through alienufoart.com, which is my own website, because I need to hear from you.
	Bill, try and imagine the predicament that I was having.
	I had, in just a few years prior, switched the program from the traditional kind of political show that everybody else does to kind of a paranormal mode, and so imagine Imagine how difficult it was for me.
	Thank God my wife at the time also saw everything I saw.
	That helped a little bit, but not that much because I still struggled with the nobody's going to believe this scenario.
	I mean, here I am doing this kind of show and I have this kind of sighting.
	Imagine how I struggled with that.
	Well, my sighting has destroyed a fellow security officer's career and the manner in which I disclosed this Has to be very careful or I'm going to get a lot of people at SRP fired and it's a very, very conservative business community out here, both in the police departments and in the public utilities.
	It's run by major religious folk who take their religion very seriously.
	Your triangle, I take it, would you like to estimate how large it was, how far it was from you?
	At least a mile to a mile and a half wide.
	It was a perfect equilateral triangle and it was dark and it was silent and it caused everything underneath it to blink and flash and it created an effect of St.
	Elmo's fire in an atmosphere where that would be almost impossible because there's just not enough moisture.
	On the night of the 15th of November of 1995, it was a Tuesday night, and I was working for the private security agency that provides outside security for the Salt River Project in the eastern part of Phoenix and the East Valley locations.
	And I was at one of their substations out by Superstition Mountain, which is actually in Pinal County, just to the northeast of Apache Junction.
	There is a substation out there that powers a small community called Goldfield, Arizona.
	And that is right, you know, less than a mile from the foot of the famous Superstition Mountain.
	And it's, you know, all sacred, you know, to the Apaches and the Pima and the Maricopa peoples and the Hohokam before all of them.
	And this is a community where you have some very wealthy people building some very high-tech homes, and you also have a lot of shanties and trailers.
	There's almost no zoning in the area.
	I was there to, you know, stand guard over the substation because a lot of construction equipment had been parked there and that was part of their insurance contract with their insurance companies.
	And I didn't mind that because, you know, that was a favorite environment.
	I used to go out with my laptop and I used to write all night and I used to, you know, basically listen to Coast to Coast and write and, you know, even answer emails and everything.
	And what ended up happening was At 0202, that means two minutes after 2 a.m.
	on the morning of the 16th, in the light of a full moon, with a layer of misty-like cloud very high above the mountains to the north of me, illuminated by both the city lights underneath and also the full moon above.
	Lights began to flicker at the substation, and they went off, and they went on, and they flickered, and they went off, and they on, and it increased in rapidity, and then it all went out.
	I also noticed a greenish electrostatic, it's an electrostatic effect, kind of like saying almost fire except, you know, not in a wet environment like, you know, on the ocean.
	The power transformers in the area were buzzing and crackling, and I could see the screen glow on some of them.
	And I noticed that the city lights to the east of me, and it's a very small community.
	When I say city, it's really not.
	It's an unincorporated area, and it's patrolled by the Pinal County sheriffs.
	And in the East Valley, all the security guards, you know, they eventually get to know each other, even if they're from rival companies.
	And, you know, the sheriff deputies that are out there, they get to know the security officers if, you know, they're at any particular site for any length of time.
	And pretty soon there was this large shadow moving out of the Usury Mountains, you know, to the north of me.
	And it was moving from an azimuth of slightly west of zero, you know, to the north of me.
	You know, somewhere between 340 degrees of azimuth and possibly 350 degrees of azimuth.
	It was moving toward me, and it was getting bigger and bigger and bigger.
	I was seeing this, and I wasn't believing what I was seeing.
	And this is not a boomerang.
	This is not the same thing as the Phoenix Lights.
	What this is, is the same thing that you saw in June of 94.
	Can you estimate the speed?
	It was drifting, and it was silent, and... Yeah, I used the word floating.
	It wasn't flying, it was floating.
	Flying requires aerodynamic, you know, enough air moving over a lifting surface.
	Exactly.
	It didn't appear to be flying.
	It was drifting.
	It caused the hairs on my arms and on my exposed flesh and you have to remember it was very cold but it caused my hair to stand and it gave me a very prickly feeling on my skin and this thing drifted overhead and pretty soon and the whole observation was less than four minutes in length and it moved from the mountain horizon to the north and then it Angled slightly to the southeast, and one of the triangle prongs actually went over the south line of slopes, the south-southeast line of slopes of Superstition Mountain.
	So it was clearly above Superstition Mountain.
	So I estimated its size to be between a mile and a mile and a half across.
	I don't like to say diameter unless you include all the empty space between the tines.
	And it was moving I don't know, somewhere around 20, 30 knots.
	And it should have fallen out of the sky.
	The big problem about this whole thing, Bill, is that in your case and in my case, it's taken you as an investigator and made you part of it.
	It's taken me as a broadcaster for this kind of material and it made me Part of it.
	I had also no choice.
	I went and I turned in a detailed MUFON report.
	Peter took a report.
	You know, I did the whole thing.
	I agonized over it before I did it, but I had my wife with me, so I had a witness.
	Well, I've got multiple witnesses, but the sheriff's deputy won't talk to me anymore, and the lady security guard quit her job that night, and she's in church every day now.
	With the little veil on her head, you know, old-style Baltimore catechism.
	She's gone back to old-style Catholic Church here in Mass at 6 a.m.
	every morning, living with a husband who treats her horribly, and she now associates with Catholic nuns.
	She won't work anymore or anything.
	Well, it produces all kinds of reactions.
	Listen, Bill, I've got a whole board of people who want to talk to you, so I promised them I would allow it this hour, so I've got to do that.
	I understand.
	All right, then here they come.
	Tommy in Washington on the wildcard line.
	You're on the air with Bill McDonald.
	Hello, Art.
	Hello, Bill.
	I'm a retired Boeing experimental flight test mechanic.
	I, too, saw a triangle.
	This was the night Mars was at the closest.
	I was putting my telescope together after the coast program in my driveway, and I happened to look up and saw it.
	Being a private pilot and an RC model flier, I can judge size and distance pretty good.
	This guy was backlit with a white and green light, triangle silhouette, 1,100 feet, passing over Sea-Tac Airport north to south, moving at an estimated 350 to 400 knots.
	It was out of sight in around four seconds.
	If I hadn't been looking in the right place at the right time, I wouldn't have seen it.
	Got a date?
	This was the day Mars was at the closest.
	Okay, I'll have to look that up, but probably there's four or five other people that have described the same sighting to me.
	Yeah, and my guess would be he saw it because he mentioned Mars was closest.
	So he was looking up.
	Most of us don't look up most of the time.
	We look at what's in front of us, or what we have to be looking at to be safe if we're driving, or even if we're walking for that matter.
	So rarely do we look up.
	But if Mars is, you know, the closest point, everybody's looking up.
	Oh, this is a day to look at Mars.
	So they look First time caller on the line, Dennis in St.
	Joe, Missouri.
	You're on the air with Bill McDonald.
	Greetings, Art and Bill.
	I've been listening to you for about 15 years now.
	One of the things I'm curious about, I mean, we've heard about how sugar gets exposed to different societies and you start seeing an onset of diabetes.
	You start seeing onsets of obesity.
	What about for the newer cases that are coming along with this?
	What about dietary changes in not only the parents, but the children, such as we're now eating a lot more fast food versus home-cooked meals, you know, breastfeeding versus the formulas, and then also what about, say, electricals, the electrical status of the house?
	I mean, you know, you're talking about the environment.
	All of that's reasonable.
	Sure.
	Absolutely.
	In fact, All of that applies to our situation at our house.
	Trying to get these children to not eat sugar, trying to get these children to not eat gluten.
	I mean, one of the problems with autism is they are the pickiest eaters in the world, and they will starve themselves rather than eat something they don't want.
	So, everything.
	You were careful with regard to the grays and with regard to modern technology and electromagnetic communication, all the rest of it, to say it was your theory.
	And I'm thankful for that.
	It could be anything in the modern world, literally, although what you've suggested is quite reasonable.
	Kevin in Phoenix, Arizona.
	You're on with Bill McDonald.
	Yeah!
	Kevin from Tempe.
	I'm just in Phoenix right now.
	Merry Christmas, guys.
	Hey, thanks.
	My question, or my comment, actually, and to have you remark on it, is that, just like what the last gentleman said, that, you know, I heard about genetic engineering in food, and we're playing with DNA like it's a toy.
	I mean, I think we're doing a number on ourselves.
	We're leveling out our own species.
	Well, that doesn't apply to my son, though, because nobody in my family is eating genetically altered foods, nor did we volunteer for any genetic manipulation.
	Oh, good.
	Good.
	But you've got to admit, Culler, those numbers are just flat frightening.
	They're way off the chart.
	It's unbelievable.
	It's way past depression.
	It's way past diabetes.
	It's way past all of the other Cancer.
	You mentioned cancer.
	It's way past cancer.
	We've had an explosion in cancer.
	300% something like that in men.
	But it's way past that.
	It's way past everything.
	Yeah.
	Well, part of the problem with cancer, Art, and a lot of people don't realize this, and also UFO community, hey, everybody's dying of cancer.
	Let me explain something to everybody.
	If you live long enough, you have a 50-50 shot at getting cancer anyway.
	Death by natural causes includes a lot of cancers, and the older you get, The higher the odds that your death by natural causes will be cancer.
	All of these old retirees in the Air Force and in the military and everybody who's been in the UFO community, a lot of them were smokers.
	And as they get older, they get cancer.
	Cancer is a direct effect or a direct effect of old age.
	No, I couldn't agree more with you.
	East of the Rockies, you're on there with Bill McDonald.
	Laura, I think, in Cincinnati.
	Yeah, hi.
	I have a question about autism.
	How is it diagnosed?
	Well, in every family it's different.
	But for some families, the baby develops normally and then all of a sudden stops interacting with the parents.
	Stops giving kisses, stops communicating.
	And acts either catatonic or starts jumping around like a little bug in a jar and just not Interacting or interfacing with the parents so the parents see a change in the personality Or it's the development just ceases at a certain level and the child just stops growing in all ways except physically parents normally notice there's a problem before the age of two but then they have to fight with the state they live in and So their initial diagnosis is about two and a half.
	Then they have to apply for assistance.
	That takes another six months.
	Then the kid turns three.
	So then the whole process has to start all over again.
	And then finally, you get to your first speech therapy appointment and your first occupational therapy appointment.
	And if you found a neurophysiologist or a doctor who is qualified to diagnose autism, it speeds it up slightly.
	But generally, The child is almost four before the child starts to receive the help and the early intervention that the child should have received at the age of two.
	Caller, have you experienced something like this?
	My son, actually.
	I took him to his pediatrician, you know, when he was younger and he was, like, taking his hands and he would, like, zone out and take his hands like he was instructing an orchestra.
	Classic symptom.
	Classic.
	And you know he's 23 now, and he still does it.
	Not as much, but he still does it.
	Do you have a relationship with your son?
	Oh yeah, he lives with me.
	He has severe depression, learning disorder, and he is seeing a psychiatrist, but it's like I can't get anybody to help.
	Well, that's because a lot of people don't want to apply resources.
	And a lot of people are not only afraid of anything related to mental illness, they apply things to mental illness that are not, and they are revulsed and disgusted by this kind of thing, and they don't want to help.
	I have people wanting to beat me up because of the way my child acts in a Walmart parking lot.
	People don't react well to this sort of thing.
	Thank you, Cal.
	You mentioned that and I can easily understand what you're talking about and the hell that you must be going through.
	Bill, hold tight.
	We're at the bottom of the hour.
	What a night this has been.
	I don't know.
	If you came in in the middle of this, you might be struggling with it.
	But if you've been here the whole time, I don't see how you cannot understand the gravity of the situation.
	I'm Art Bell.
	Howdy, everybody.
	Bill McDonald is my guest, and for my money, he's made way too much sense tonight.
	As I said, going into the break, if you joined us midway or three quarters of the way through the program, you probably are wondering what it's all about.
	It's about autism, with a possible connection to those who are visiting us from the future.
	The numbers, the autistic Children, number of them, the numbers is mind-boggling.
	1996, 1 in 10,000 births.
	The year 2000, 1 in 5,000 births.
	It doubled.
	The year 2006, 1 in 166 births.
	So what did it do then?
	And where is it going?
	That's a change in all of humanity.
	Bill McDonald will be back for your calls in a moment.
	Bill McDonald has a book called Oasis Earth Hypothesis and I would think you can probably pick it up at Amazon or your
	favorite bookstore.
	Oh, I'm sorry, it's not yet published.
	Not yet published?
	It's self-published, and what it is is actually a rough draft that started out from a treatment.
	We're looking for a publisher.
	Oh.
	We badly need a publisher.
	Okay, well then you badly need a publisher for your book, Oasis Earth.
	Yes, there you go.
	And a way to contact you, Bill, would be?
	Okay, there's several ways.
	The primary way is to go to www.alienufoart.com and you can email me and my wife.
	She has all kinds of beautiful jewelry, all kinds of products and services, ghost hunting, plus all of my artwork.
	Commissioned artwork, people want to do commissions, all of that, through alienufoart.com.
	I can be reached through my special private email, and I want people to understand it's a very easy one to remember.
	It's Bill, B-I-L-L, underscore, K-I-A, at hotmail.com.
	K-I-A is like killed in action, it's an inside joke from my old employers.
	That's my personal private email.
	People can get a hold of me anytime through there.
	If you like artwork, if you want to commission a painting related to your favorite animal, your favorite dragon, your favorite angel, a UFO encounter, a ghost, anything like that, contact me through our commissions page at alienufoart.com.
	That's alienufoart.com forward slash commissions dot htm.
	OK.
	Or just email us from the homepage.
	All right.
	I'm sure we've got a link up tonight.
	You've got lots of links up.
	And I want to thank everybody who's already put out bids.
	They're a little gray alien.
	She's in a space suit.
	All right.
	Karen in Columbus, Ohio.
	You're on with Bill McDonald.
	Hello, Bill and Art.
	Thanks for taking my call.
	Talk about synchronicity.
	This evening I was just going over, discussing with my daughter a paper she's doing, a research paper on autism, helping her to revise it.
	And we were discussing the dramatic increase in this phenomenon and she was saying that there was a genetic component and that it tended to run in families where there was high intelligence.
	And I was saying to her, it doesn't seem like the genetic component could be the only thing that would account for it because otherwise It would have been more prevalent in the past.
	Is it a dominant or a recessive gene and what are autistic people or people who tend to carry the gene attracted to other people who carry the gene?
	And then I was talking to her, I remember way back in the past, they had said that there was a study that showed that breast cancer was sometimes began, that people carried the genetic component and then something in an environment would cause it to occur into the physical body.
	And I was wondering if you knew if that was the case with autism, that possibly the changes in the environment, what was causing it to begin to manifest.
	But before you answer that, just real quick, what was interesting is I had just seen a few television programs lately about autism, and one of the really frightening things about it is that it's costing $60,000 in order to educate these children properly so that they can achieve their highest potential.
	That's a frightening amount of money, and for parents like you, Bill, I can't imagine how you begin to try and cover that kind of cost.
	And one other thing, what's interesting is after listening to you and talking to my daughter, I now realize that I think my uncle, who is extremely intelligent, and my brother both have a mild form of autism, and my brother will tell you a story about when he was nine years old that will make the Let me just add a few comments, Art.
	stand up on your arms about a UFO encounter with him and a friend where he saw like three
	ships in the back of a field and they just stood there or sat there and he goes into
	the whole story but again here's a UFO connection.
	So anyway.
	Okay Karen, hold it there, that's a lot to tackle.
	Let me just add a few comments Art.
	Sure.
	Climate change is caused by changes in the environment and then the genome responds with
	mutations.
	If the mutations are something other than a virus or a tumor, cancer, or a sport or a freak, and if the mutation is something that allows the newborn individual to adapt to the new environment better than the parent stock, Then that is a change that, you know, gets emplaced in the population.
	And that's what I think, you know, began with autism.
	But yes, there is an exterior component.
	There is a pressure in the habitat that may be caused by pesticides, that may be caused by, you know, chemicals in our inoculations, that may be caused by the electromagnetics of all the mass, you know, electronic media that is bombarding us day and night.
	Whatever the cause, there's no one cause.
	It's a multiple of causes, and autism spectrum means that there is a variety of autisms out there, and some are less dramatic, and some are more dramatic, and some create savant activity that actually enhances a family's ability to earn money, and some are just devastating to, you know, particular families.
	And as far as paying $60,000 to educate a child, yes ma'am, that's exactly the case.
	We, because of the situation, barely have enough money to have, you know, a comfortable lifestyle in a comfortable home of our own.
	We get some help from the state because Michael's disability is officially recognized by the state of Arizona, even though Arizona's budget is, you know, Barely in recovery.
	When we moved here, Arizona was nearly bankrupt.
	But where is that money going to come from?
	Well, I keep saying, now is the time for all of these big-ticket churches with the, you know, four to forty thousand members.
	You know, where are these big-time televangelists with the enormous profits that they are earning from all the little people that are sitting out there sending their donations?
	Well, it's time for them to step up.
	If you are the pastor of a monster church and you're on TV every day, well, you should be figuring out how to create a fund the way Jerry Lewis and all those people created a fund for muscular dystrophy going back all those years.
	You should be helping with these strange new cancers and with these strange new mutations such as autism and all of these changes that are occurring in the environment.
	Quit lining the pockets of the organization as heavily and distribute some of those funds back toward these families, such as mine, that need the help.
	We need respite.
	We need habilitation.
	We need to be able to go to the movies once in a while and have somebody who knows how to care for our children properly babysit for a simple three hours.
	Our relatives don't dare babysit for us because, you know, Mikey, Might take off a dirty diaper and throw it at him.
	I mean, it's one of those kind of situations where, you know, it's time for corporations and churches to step up.
	Absolutely.
	Bob on the international line in Canada, you're on.
	Good morning, gentlemen.
	I got on kind of late this morning.
	I was wondering if Bill had mentioned somarisol in the child vaccine battery?
	Some what?
	Samarasol, it's a... Oh, right, right, right.
	I've got a ton of emails on that.
	Apparently, it was introduced at the same time when this dramatic change in the onset of autism happened.
	Well, again, autism has been around since The Victorian age when England converted from an agrarian society to an industrial sector.
	Not anywhere near these numbers, though, Bill.
	Right, but what I'm saying is that autism predates some of the chemistries that go in as fixative on some of the inoculations that these children receive.
	There is a relationship with some kids and their inoculations, but the propensity to become autistic Or to exhibit the autistic behavior had to be there before the inoculation was given.
	Alright, Wild Card Line, Mark in Austin, Texas.
	You're on Bill.
	Hi Art and Bill.
	Bill, I really want to thank you for your courage to bring this up.
	I really understand the pain that you go through in your parenting.
	I have a situation within my family, not my immediate, but my nephew.
	The other thing, I might have two pieces of a puzzle for you that I'm aware of.
	There are two doctors.
	One of them is Dr. Cheryl Selman and she is an expert in hormonal disruptors and the effects on the cellular level.
	The other one, you are so spot on about EMF and primarily around the increase of cell phone tower activity and all the other EMF Uh, waste that goes through all of us every day.
	And the other fellow is Dr. George Karlov.
	Now, he's a Ph.D.
	and M.S.
	and a J.D.
	and he's been a public health scientist, he's an epidemiologist, and he's a lawyer.
	But what he did of most concern was he ran a study for, uh, 1993 to 1999, uh, for the cell phone industry before, when his conclusion came out, they got rid of him.
	He has new information that just came out in research about a month ago that has been proven over and over again of the effects of EMF on the cellular behavior and what happens inside the cell membrane once it hardens because of the constant irritant and the kinds of triggering mechanisms that go on within all the aspects of the internal cell.
	And this is every cell in our bodies.
	It's fantastic.
	Now, I don't expect you to remember all that.
	I've got your email.
	I will email you Dr. Selman's name.
	It'll be in the subject matter.
	I'll give you a connect to her, and she is connected with Dr. Carlos.
	I just really implore you to follow this up.
	I know you've got lots of information.
	I know you have a lot of needs and things, but I think this may be able to connect you into more resources than you've been able to get onto.
	All right.
	Well, Collar, I really appreciate that.
	If any contact information, any way that I can track these people down, if you can put it out to Bill underscore KIA at Hotmail.com, I would be enormously grateful.
	It's a journey, and it is a long-term detective operation, and Michael's care Michael's education and Michael's eventual welfare is a one-day-at-a-time situation, and my wife and I obviously have stayed together.
	Incidentally, Art, according to the people that I talk to here in Arizona, 70% of the fathers of autistic children break up with the mothers and leave.
	I'm sure that's right.
	Seven out of every ten fathers Who have an autistic child say adios to the mom and they'll pay money, but they just won't be involved in that child's daily life.
	Now, my wife and I have made a commitment that no matter what it costs us, like I could be making tons and tons and tons more money traveling and investigating stuff for a number of clients.
	And instead, I work locally.
	I do security work, I do detective work, and I do special assignments locally so that I can pull a full, you know, four to eight hour shift every day, giving Laurie a break from Michael's care.
	And we literally have to live in shifts in order to, you know, keep the house running.
	Yeah, I don't know how you're doing it.
	I really don't.
	I've seen the effects of it, and I don't know how.
	You get used to it, Art.
	You know?
	I mean, listen... We've been on a lot of time, Bill.
	Daphne in Seattle, you're on with Bill McDonald.
	Hello!
	I just wanted to call and say a few things.
	I'm a speech pathologist and also a mother of a child with autism.
	And I wanted to bring up the alternative therapies that aren't very well received by many doctors.
	And a lot of us mothers are basically shunned for going that direction.
	I wanted to find out if you are familiar with the five levels of healing that have been brought up by Dr. Klinghardt?
	Never heard of it.
	It deals with healing, working with the spirit, and also dealing with intuitive levels, mental energy, and all that.
	Oh, we have a lot of people on the spiritual side of things that have been attempting to help us, and some of them are very well-known Coast Guests.
	And they have in the past made major attempts to help us.
	Evelyn Paglini is one of them who has attempted to help us in the past and we are grateful.
	There's a lot of spirit healers that Laurie and I have encountered over the years in our travels and even staying home just being in contact with people on the Internet.
	We have people in West India and in Punjab who are trying to help us through the Sikh community.
	We have explored a lot of alternative healing and alternative medicines.
	There was a healer one time by the name of Sai Baba.
	I don't know if he's still with us, but I wish I had the opportunity to travel my family to India and meet him.
	He's not a fake.
	He's for real.
	And I don't know if he's still alive.
	In a situation like that, you try everything.
	Exactly, Art.
	You have to try it all.
	Yeah.
	West of the Rockies in B.C., British Columbia.
	Jim, you're on with Bill.
	Greetings, gentlemen.
	Great show.
	I just wanted to, because we're biochemical and bioelectric creatures, I've got two theories.
	One is, in China, you mentioned the incidents there, because they only have a one-child policy and they're all looking for a boy, there's a lot of use of ultrasound, and I was just wondering if there might be a parallel with You are the second person to mention ultrasound.
	I just got an email right now from somebody who mentioned ultrasound.
	I have very little information on that, but you know, that's the new path that I'm going to be taking starting tomorrow morning.
	Wow!
	Okay, a quick one.
	Tom in Oregon.
	You're on with Bill.
	Oh, hey Art, Bill.
	Thanks for taking my call and thanks for everything you do.
	My main question is, I am in Oregon, as you said, and I know some folks with autistic kids, and I just wonder if you could elaborate at all on what you've mentioned about the spring here.
	Yeah, anything along those lines.
	I'm not sure.
	You're not being specific enough.
	What do you want to know?
	Well, you were talking about the spraying that's happening in Oregon and even higher levels of autism here.
	Okay, well, really, really quick.
	Some people believe that the spraying that's going on in the sky that makes the contrails... Oh, okay.
	Chemtrails, they call them, yes.
	And other people think that the chemical spraying that goes on in forests and fields to kill the bark beetles that, you know, are infesting the western trees and that are wiping out whole forests here might also You know, the pesticides may have an effect on this, and perhaps they do.
	Listen, Art, I have to thank a couple of people before I say goodnight.
	May I do that?
	Very quickly.
	Okay.
	First of all, Mark Williams, thehostprose.com, he's been with us every step of the way, carrying our website since day one.
	Also, anybody that's looking for Lemurian seed crystals, aqua aura, or any of the crystal skulls, Bill, that's got to do it.
	We're out of time.
	Well, thank you very much.
	Take care.
	You have a good night.
	And ladies and gentlemen, we're sort of halfway through the weekend here.
	I will see you once again tomorrow night.
	What an incredible program this has been.

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