Derrel Sims, a hypnotherapist and private investigator, shares his lifelong alien abduction experiences—starting at age 3½ in Texas—including violent intrusions, nine-inch nasal implants with meteoric origins (confirmed by NIDS scientists), and fractal-like markings on abductees. He cites 45% of cases involving artificial insemination, though doubts persist, and compares entities to intelligence operatives enforcing control. Callers like Amanda (1980) and Clifton (Cherokee contactee) describe expelled silver objects and tech-embedded stones, while Sims insists evidence exists beyond anecdotes, urging skepticism toward "angelic" or demonic claims. The discussion leaves unsettling questions about non-human manipulation of human biology and memory. [Automatically generated summary]
Have until today or so been hovering around 117 degrees every day.
Now, my response to this is multiple.
One, I don't live without air conditioning.
So I go out and hug my five-ton air conditioner.
And moreover, I've taken the posture that if I can't travel, which I can't in these kind of temperatures, for any number of reasons, including pets and all that sort of stuff, I'm going to ignore the heat.
So my posture has been to stay up until well after the sun has come up in the morning, and then like a bat, sleep all day long, until about five or so in the afternoon, and then awaken to begin my strange nocturnal activities.
In other words, I won't have anything to do with it.
When it's 117 degrees outside, you can't do anything.
I mean, really, you're better off not moving around, not turning on lights, not turning on appliances.
In other words, you're better off asleep.
Like the astronauts trying to make it back to Earth without enough power in Apollo 13, you know, you're better off just going to sleep.
That's what we've been doing.
So I'm rather wide awake.
It's really morning for me right now.
Morning in my part of America.
All right, now, tonight's webcam, you may think you've seen it, it was a picture of our, you know, we have a new kitten in the house, Dusty.
Dusty has grown really big.
Dusty is now real long.
And I had a picture of Dusty up there, but see, another thing happened on the way during the heat.
This is an interesting story.
I have a radio tower, as you all more than well know, in my backyard, a hundred-footer, big one.
And at about the 80-foot level of this large tower, some starlings decided, what a cool place to build a nest.
It's a great, strong, metallic nest-holding monster.
So they built a nest.
They labored hard and long and built this nest at 80 feet up on my tower.
That's kind of neat.
Why not?
I would, too, if I were a starling.
Only thing about a tree is, you see, it doesn't, unlike a tree, it doesn't give shade.
So when it's 117 degrees, you can imagine the metal on the tower gets warm.
Really warm.
Anyway, these starlings, fortunately, were about, you know, they were ready to leave the nest and fly off and do whatever starlings do, except this one.
Must have been the runt of the nest.
And it fell from the sky, from 80 feet up on my tower, I guess, or flew.
Either way, it appeared, this little tiny starling appeared on my wife's chain link fence just below the tower, sitting there on the chain link fence, you know, about halfway down, grasping one of the little chain links.
And we walked past this little guy and we said, oh, you know, from the nest, and it didn't move.
It didn't move.
And it just sat there.
Panting like a starling pants, I guess.
And so we went out, came back, and here was this little starling still in the same place.
This is now two or three hours later.
Well, obviously, this little guy was in shock, really serious shock.
He had not moved now for seven or eight hours.
And Ramona looks at me and I look at Ramona and we say, oh, brother.
So I said, it was about midnight now.
It's about midnight now.
And I said, Ramona, and she said to me about the same time, we've got to do it.
So she went and bought at midnight, you can do that here in Nevada, a birdcage.
And Ramona went out with her gloves and captured, I mean, you could walk right up to him, he didn't care, or her, we still don't know, of course, and got this little tiny, tiny waif of a bird that was obviously, well, if the sun had come up, this bird would have been dead within two hours.
But what did we do?
We interfered with nature.
And for three days, this starling resided in its little cage in our garage, which is air-conditioned, comfortable.
And Ramona started to try to feed it.
Well, she's fed it worms, regular worms, didn't like those too much, and then mealyworms.
Those it has a great appetite for, as well as making up this mash, which is made from bird seed, which you put in a pepper grinder and grind up, and then put egg yolk in.
And oh, it's quite a procedure.
So anyway, three days later, we bring little snarling deer, which we have named Tower, into the house of four cats.
Four cats.
Now, that might not be the smartest thing that anybody ever did.
But with the aid of a squirt gun, I mean, you can see in a cat's eyes when it has intentions, dire intentions.
You can see its little studied, alert nose and back end begin to wiggle a little bit.
You know when a cat has something in its sights, right?
So we hit them with a squirt gun.
And they, of course, don't know you've done it, so it's pretty cool because they think it was water from God.
And they just jump about six feet high and run into the other room.
And then pretty soon, after enough shots, they're not thinking about the bird anymore.
They're thinking about shots of water from God.
So anyway, that's where we are now, the animal people, four cats, and one now rapidly growing, extremely noisy starling.
And by the way, I would like to thank the people at starling.ww.starling.info.
If you ever get a baby bird And it's a starling.
That's the place to go to begin to learn how to even think about taking care of a baby.
This thing now, not only did it come out of shock, but now it's the happiest bird alive, flying all over the nest, just making noise, recognizing people, being social, even perhaps liking the cats.
I don't know.
But it's happy.
So that's what's been going on in the Bell household during my absence to get away.
Ha ha.
All right.
World news very quickly.
Then we'll pause and give you the real news.
British police arrested a third man in connection with last week's failed attack against London's transit system.
Said Sunday they're going to try to penetrate what they suspect is probably an al-Qaeda network behind the whole thing.
At Sharm al-Sheikh, Egypt, where the big attack occurred, the bombers who carried out Egypt's worst ever terrorist attack appeared to have entered the Red Sea resort in pickup trucks they now know with loaded explosives that were hidden under some vegetables.
NASA plans to launch the first space shuttle flight in two and one half years, even if it's plagued by the very same fuel gauge that stopped it, what, last week?
So they go no matter what.
That's very unlike NASA, isn't it?
22 dead in a suicide bomber attack in Baghdad.
NBC is in some trouble, apparently.
The executive vows that there's going to be a season of rebuilding at NBC.
Suffering low ratings, fourth place, I guess.
And while I'm on the subject of the vast wasteland, there are two programs that I would like to recommend to you, very seriously recommend to you.
One I have already recommended in the past.
It's called Medium.
It's on Monday nights at 9 o'clock on NBC, the Fourth Network, and it's a really good show.
Yes, I would like to interview the real young lady, the real medium, who lives in Phoenix and assists the DA or ADA.
And it's a tremendous show.
It's so unaffected.
The other show is House.
Oh, my God.
What I did was I have a DVR, so I captured the entire season of House.
Didn't watch it.
And then about two weeks ago, I discovered House.
Oh, my God, what a good show.
Is it Laurie?
Hugh Laurie is the doctor, and I don't think I've ever seen better character acting.
It is really good.
Got to be a real piece of that man in that show because he just does it too well.
House, start watching it.
Fox, Tuesday at 9 o'clock.
Boy, is that a good series.
All right.
Lance, seven times.
Seven times the Tour de France.
That's incredible.
Again, the Victorious run through the arch in Paris, and boy, you've got to give it to him.
I watched the programs on TV that showed how Lance actually did it.
And he did it with the assistance of a network who sort of looked at every piece of his, you know, his helmet, every part of his body, air resistance, and all the rest of that.
And Discovery Channel really helped him out in that regard.
And it obviously paid off as he apparently came in first by about five minutes.
We'll be right back.
So much time has gone by.
There really are quite a number of things that I wish to talk to you about, and this is at the top of the list tonight.
The oceans are warmer than they ought to be.
You may have watched the weather channel or some of the coverage of the latest hurricane that we had, but they were all in exclamation about how hot the ocean was, what a terrible hurricane season it was going to be.
This story from Gannett in New Jersey, in Dave Kaplan's 44 years as a Bradley Beach lifeguard, this is the earliest he's ever seen the ocean so warm by a long margin.
Quote, I take the water temperatures every day, said Kaplan Wednesday.
Well, last week, it's been the warmest I ever can recall.
The warm ocean waters with temperatures ranging, averaging, get this, five to eight degrees above normal are linked to the warm, stagnant weather in recent days and the lack of upswelling at cooler bottom waters in recent weeks, according to the experts.
Air temperatures are in the 80s and 90s.
They were expected again in Mammoth and Ocean counties today, according to forecast by the National Weather Service's Mount Holly office.
The warmth with sunny skies is likely to warm surface waters even more.
The warm waters have led to improved fluke fishing, believe it or not.
Figures, it'd be a fluke, right?
The early arrival of tropical species like Spanish mackerel and the potential for hurricanes heading up the coast to retain more of their energy and I suppose be more fierce.
Anyway, this kind of goes together with a lot of things we've been saying for a long time.
Now, in addition to this, I got an email from somebody who watches, you know, New York City news, and I think one of the premier weather forecasters there, one of the big stations in New York, received information from Buies that said the water was in the 80s.
I mean, way, way above where it ought to be.
And he simply said, you know, I don't believe it.
And I believe an offer was made for him to check it out for himself, which he, I understand, declined.
But the fact of the matter is, something is definitely going on with ocean temperatures right now.
It's going to affect the world's weather.
It's affecting our weather.
It will affect all weather.
The ocean has so much of an effect on our climate that even a small variation in what's going on with regard to ocean temperatures and, of course, those all-important currents will have a magnifying effect on the entire environment.
And you wouldn't believe how small the margin of life is on Earth.
And by margin, I mean we live within a certain temperature range of things happening.
And if that were just to be altered a few degrees one way or the other, we might not be here.
Scientists are gaining insight.
The following comes from CNN.com.
Insight about December's devastating earthquake and tsunami from the actual sounds.
They got the actual sounds of the 9.3 quake in the Indian Ocean.
It's really quite an eerie sound to hear the earth ripping apart like that.
We hear it on smaller earthquakes quite frequently, but something of this scale that just goes on for eight minutes or more is very unprecedented, according to Maya Tolstoy, a marine geophysicist at Columbia University's Lamont Dougherty Earth Observatory, said she, it gave me the chills when I first heard it.
The dramatic soundtrack of the rupture of the Sumatra-Annaman Fault comes from a little-known, sometimes hard-to-access resource.
The microphones that capture the sound are simply part of a global network of instruments that monitor the entire world for compliance with the Comprehensive Nuclear Test Ban Treaty.
In other words, they're listening for nuclear explosions.
But they caught this monster quake, and they describe it as a ripping and tearing sound of the very earth itself.
Now, I would solicit anybody's help here who happens to have this, hopefully in MPEG-3, MP3, or whatever of this.
I would very much like to hear the sound of the earth ripping apart, and if I could lay my little paws upon it, you would hear it too.
That's got to be a very unusual sound.
Again, she refers to it as the earth literally tearing apart for eight minutes.
I wonder what that sounded like.
Enough to raise the hair on the back of that young scientist's neck.
Santa Barbara.
Scientists are puzzled by a mysterious Los Padres National Forest hotspot, get this, where 400-degree ground ignited a wildfire.
Now that's a different one, isn't it?
Normally, wildfires are ignited by, for example, the lightning we had here yesterday morning.
We had one of those whiz-bang.
If you happen to be asleep at about 6.30 in the morning when a bolt ignited about, I don't know, a third of a mile away or less, you know, normally when lightning goes, I try to be semi-scientific and go out and count 1,001, 1,002, you know, after the light.
And I said 1,000, boom!
I didn't even get the 1,001 out.
So normally you would expect lightning to ignite a fire that way, and sure enough, a lot of them have ignited in the mountains around me.
But this, this is a hole in the ground with 400-degree temperatures.
The hotspot was discovered by fire crews putting out a three-acre fire last summer in the forest Dick Smith Wilderness.
They saw fissures in the ground where they could feel a lot of heat coming out.
That's a quote from a Los Padres geologist, Alan King.
He said, it's not characteristic at all of a normal fire.
Fire investigators went back to the canyon days later and stuck a candy thermometer into the ground.
It hit the top of the scale at 400 degrees.
A dozen scientists, including University of California Santa Barbara mineralogist Jim Bowles, have been looking for answers since August.
Robert Mariner of the U.S. Geological Survey, a hydrologist who studies volcanic gas vents at Mount Jasta and Mount Hood and Mount Rainier, also called in.
Everybody's puzzled.
He said, when I heard about the candy thermometer, I was amazed, noting that the temperature of the volcanic vents that he studies is typically, oh, about 200 degrees around the boiling point of water.
I thought these guys were yanking on my leg.
With the help of an air reconnaissance flight and thermal infrared imaging, scientists found the hot spot actually covers about three acres, the three acres that were on fire.
The hottest spot was 11 feet underground at 584 degrees.
They found no oil, no gas deposits or vents nearby, no significant deposits of coal.
The Geiger counter readings were normal for radioactivity, and there was no evidence of any explosion or volcanic activity.
Now, they speculate that one explanation being studied, and it is speculation, is that an earthquake fault just might be the source of the heat, but it's hard to imagine how an earthquake fault would generate temperatures in that realm.
All right.
Well, apparently the sound already of the earthquake has been on the show.
I guess they may have had it last week, somebody said, and I'm getting links to it, so I'm obviously going to be able to get it.
I'm looking forward to that.
Can you imagine the sound of the earth ripping apart?
Michael Pitcher saw the storm rolling into Clearwater Beach Saturday evening.
Heavy rain fell.
Lightning quivered from the clouds.
Pitcher and his girlfriend sought safety under a pier.
They looked into the water, and what do they see but about 20 swimmers?
All those people out in the water.
Someone's going to get struck by lightning, Pitcher said.
The words had barely left his mouth, kind of like trying to say 1,001, and there was an incredible crack.
A lightning bolt struck the beach, knocking three people unconscious.
Fourth person, a pregnant woman, good lord, also hit by lightning.
But she remained conscious.
Two people suffered critical injuries, were taken to Morton Plant Hospital.
Two others with serious injuries were taken to Bayfront Medical Center and Largo Medical Center.
The names and conditions of those were not available, Saturn denied, all appeared young, maybe in their early 20s.
You're not too bright in your early 20s.
It was unclear if the victims were at the beach together.
So anyway, Pitcher and his girlfriend said they saw a man standing in the water that wasn't even waist high.
This guy took a direct hit.
The lightning hit.
The bolt hit his head.
The bolt flickered for about three seconds.
The man's arms went up in the air and the electricity lifted him out of the water, said Pitcher.
When the bolt disappeared, he dropped back in the water and sank.
It sucked him right out of the water, said Pitcher.
A hospice nurse from Port Ritchie said the lightning stopped and it dropped him.
I couldn't believe it.
So a lot of people saw this happen.
He was lifted out of the air by the lightning that hit his head.
Remember, he's standing in salt water.
So anyway, it didn't look too good for that man.
Apparently, he was turning blue.
You know, as they took him off, he was turning blue and was absolutely a mess, as you might imagine, but I guess still alive, and everybody wished him well.
But you would think that they'd know enough after something like this had just happened, right?
To get the hell out of the water.
But no.
As the 911 guys, the emergency responders, were hauling the bodies, the blackened bodies away, with lightning still going off all around, even as emergency crews assisted, they were back in the water again.
And you wade right back into the water, not just one, but many.
Perhaps this is people trying to assist the ongoing process.
I don't know.
This is a rumor from a listener, but it looks like it's based.
There are several links here.
I didn't have a chance to follow, but there's a team together, and they've got an exploration pass for Turkey.
They're going to melt down to Noah's Ark somewhere between now and August 15th after locating the main portion of the ship with an elaborate arc imaging scanner.
And then they list some links here.
So there may be something quietly going on with regard to the ark right now.
Somebody actually trying to melt their way down to it.
Tommy Thompson's going to sign up with Verichip.
He's going to get a chip, he says, as soon as enough hospitals get the scanning equipment to make it realistic, he will go and get a chip implanted in him, as animals have done.
And now, as human beings are going to be urged to do.
Are you going to get a chip implanted?
Verichip Company has been doing it.
I have a feeling a number of my listeners probably would not go the chip route.
However, I guess that you'll be able to do many things.
Now, right now, the chip will carry your medical information.
So, you know, if lightning lifts you out of the waist-high seawater, they'll be able to quickly scan your medical records and know everything that needs to be known about you to treat you properly and possibly keep you alive.
So why not get the chip?
It's a pretty strong argument, right?
But we all know that it might be the sign of what?
Might be the sign of the beast.
Or maybe not.
Maybe it's only one chip.
Certainly not a chip that would dispense your hospital records.
Would also be connected with, you know, him, right?
We're talking like five or six times a day, and we're talking nine, eight, nine worms at a time.
unidentified
Okay, couple things.
Yeah, honestly, at this age, you probably want to be feeding them no later than every hour.
Probably starting at, well, luckily not all day, but like in a 12-hour stretch, maybe from 9 in the morning till 9 at night.
And you don't want to go too heavy on the mealworms.
We're starting to find in the rehabilitation community that mealworms, it's either something with the chitinous skin or their fat content, that they're okay in small quantities.
What you really never want to feed them is earthworms or redworms.
Did you see the network coverage of the scientific work that they did on him to achieve, you know, begin to slice seconds off with aerodynamic changes in the helmet and what he wears and every little tiny everything.
The bike discovery channel did it.
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And he went and took his VO2 MAX test, which is a volume by oxygen.
No, it's an incredible, thank you very much, incredible achievement.
No question about it.
And those of you who did not see the discovery footage of how they helped him out, how the scientists went to work on every little tiny aspect of Lance Armstrong, his bike, every little nut and bolt, everything was aerodynamically checked in wind chambers and all the rest of it.
And they're shaving seconds off what will be his total performance.
Well, we were hit with a sandstorm here, huh, from Asia, from Mongolia.
And it turned our skies yellow.
And it didn't make the national press, I mean, all of the skies of Las Vegas and all of southern Nevada, and for all I know, a lot more, turned yellow.
How do you feel about living in Florida now, knowing almost, I mean, could you almost be sure it's going to be a continual march of hurricanes this year as the season progresses?
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Well, I'm a little bit concerned due to the fact, in a way, because my father was from the Canary Islands.
So I've heard you say or mention that the Canary Islands are supposed to be causing maybe some kind of a wave or something to our area as well.
And all these weird things happening with our weather here.
Darrell Sims, coming up in a moment, is a certified hypnotherapist, certified hypnotic anesthesiist, certified master neuro-linguistic practitioner, international speaker, licensed private investigator in the state of Texas, and researcher of human, alleged human alien encounters.
His discoveries of the alleged alien implantation and fluorescence found on abductees following reported contact by alien entities are but two finds that his medical scientific team explores.
In 1994, a writer reviewing his work originated the name Alien Hunter.
That's a good name, Alien Hunter.
Mr. Sims' primary work is gathering physical evidence from cases of alleged human-alien contact.
He is an advisor investigator for the Parsec organization.
This is an Italy-based organization of medical doctors, physicists, psychotherapists, and other professionals who invited Sims to come on board in 2000 and use his skills to complete professional investigations in psychological and physical evidence in the work.
His presentations to medical, scientific college conferences and so forth, and the public at large show compelling approaches to human alien encounters.
His extensive training and experience in investigative approaches and therapeutic interventions allows him to select the right approach for the individual and the event.
So, an obvious first question will be, after all of this investigation, are we being occupied?
Well, I think if you mean by who they are the alleged alien as people refer to them as, I often refer to them as the entities because I'm not really sure what an alien is.
But the brain might eliminate the legs and feet because the brain would know you can't see through the bed or should know in normal everyday life you wouldn't see through the bed.
So to me, what was curious was the entity began at that point to start to move toward me, and then instantaneously, as it began to move toward me, I became instantly paralyzed.
And, of course, after years of looking at my own case and over a thousand other cases worldwide, it became apparent to me that the fear was installed and so was the paralysis.
And it seemed to be coming from, and I have no basis for this other than looking at other people's cases as well.
It seemed to be coming from something that the entity was able to manipulate or do with his large black eyes.
Yet that made no sense to me because they didn't really do anything that I noticed, that I could really put my finger on, so to speak.
So the curious thing about that to me, in the operation where I was getting a chemical pain injection for back surgery from a car accident, I woke up, literally switched on.
It woke up wasn't even the right word because it stunned the two surgeons that were there and the team and the anesthesiologist.
The fact that not only did I woke up, but I sat up and I stood up and started talking naturally to Dr. Albina, my surgeon, and wanted to know why he had hired someone else to do the work because he wasn't qualified, which was absolutely true.
He wasn't tested to do that particular kind of a new injection.
The point is that I was completely coherent as if I had been switched on.
It scared the anesthesiologist half to death.
I mean, he's paid to keep me knocked out until I am coherent.
In fact, my 74-year-old mother saw me on the History Channel the other night, and she says, I knew you did the investigations, but Daryl, they said you were an abductee.
I said, Mom, the next night I was sleeping between you and Dad, I was so upset, and I never would tell you what it was, that you two must have thought I had a bad dream because I don't ever remember sleeping in the bed with those two ever as a child.
And they had me between them.
And I said, and I described exactly how she slept and exactly how he slept as a matter of course, and she was just startled.
And I said, the reason I know is because I was switched on again, or switched on myself, and I looked up and there's two entities standing there the next night, and one of them was the same one that was there the night before, and the other one looked just like him, but I don't know how I knew it.
At age 12, I do remember a lot more about the event, and I'll give you an illustration there.
I, again, switched on, 12 years old, 1305 Ohio Street, Almogorda, New Mexico, outside Holloman Air Force Base and White Sands Missile Range.
I lived there for 13 years.
I go outside, thinking I'd heard my mother's voice, which my mom was sound asleep.
We know that for sure.
I went outside and saw something that was quite brightness in my backyard, and it looked like a star, but I couldn't figure out, I've never seen a star that bright so close to the level of the ground.
And it came at me very quickly, and just about like to the movie, I hate to use a movie as an illustration, but the light was so bright the way it came.
It was very, very clear, the best way to describe it.
It was more of an adult language, as far as I was concerned, because I began to listen to them describe A procedure, and I never knew anything about this procedure until about 20 years later.
They were discussing what they wanted to do, and they were talking about activating and shutting down different parts of the brain.
And I couldn't understand, first of all, why it was even there and what in the world they were doing.
And the next thing I notice is there's this long needle-like device that the entity that always picks me up is coming toward me with, and it's got a silver little ball on the end of it.
I don't know ultimately what that was all about, but I do have a little better sense, perhaps now, because a gentleman just emailed me not a few months ago, and he showed me one of the most remarkable implantations I have ever seen out of the dozens of cases I have.
And they're sitting there stunned because it can't be there because it's not from any kind of an explosion or anything like that.
There's no damage, no trauma to the area.
It makes no sense.
So he kept his abductions quiet and still has.
And he's just grinning from ear to ear.
He says, and I went to your website at alienunter.org, and he said, and I was stunned to see some of the similar things.
And I said, well, what I don't have on there, and I didn't tell anybody in great detail, is the details of what happened to me.
And I only did that after he had revealed to me what had happened to him.
And of course, it's just staggering to see an object very similar to what the object, in my view, was a little bit smaller, what was installed in my nasal passage.
And here's one inside him with the same procedure, the same exact way.
There's one thing that I want to do first, though, and that is I mentioned at the head of the program tonight that scientists had recorded the sound of the Earth breaking apart, and I've got it.
Thank you.
As Daryl was telling us about what happened to him, I emailed it to myself, ripped it off on a C D, and I've got it right here.
Now, these are microphones used to detect nuclear devices breaking treaties, you know, that kind of thing.
Normally, it's dead quiet.
And indeed, in this recording, that's where it starts off, dead quiet.
And then I hope your speakers, you're going to have to turn up your radio.
I hope your speakers are going to be able to reproduce this properly because it's at a very low frequency, not generally conducive to playing on broadcast radio, but who cares?
I'm going to play it anyway.
And first, you have relative silence.
You can hear a gathering.
I'm just going to let this go.
If you've got good speakers, you're going to be able to hear this.
If not, I don't know.
but here comes the 9.3 tsunami, earthquake that produced the tsunami.
And in all these operations, the questions we ask, whether we do them directly or whether they've been done by someone at the VA hospital or other places where we've asked for them to be done, usually without giving any information alien-wise or anything about it, just other than it's curious and it needs to be removed.
Many of the abductees, with the exception of only a couple, felt like they were free once the object is removed.
Now, whether that's psychological, psychogenic, or psychosomatic.
Only two reported that they felt like it should have remained and so on.
So one of the things we're doing now is to look at the objects in situ inside the body and see if we can find any evidence of anything occurring there.
What he found in an object in a man's hand in Italy was that the individual started checking meridians in the individual and seeing if there was any possible connection to that.
And he felt like that the individual was actually getting better from some enormous anger problems that they had.
And it was his view that because the individual was getting better, that perhaps the implant was doing something good for him in that respect.
And I asked the question, I said, doctor, I said, I'm not trying to be negative here.
I'm just, I said, I'm going to put my police hat on here.
I used to be a cop, and I worked in the intelligence community for two years in the Central Intelligence Agency.
Anger, in my opinion, would start before it did with me, and it has with many other abductees.
Sometimes the abductees will focus their anger specifically on a parent.
And the reason is simply because when you pin them down to this, when you finally isolate everything, especially in a therapeutic setting, you'll find in many cases that the anger focused on the parent by the abductee boils down to one particular issue.
It was a little ball-like object in the individual's hand.
And another thing he found was that there were certain times that many of the abductees, we correlated a lot of our information as well, and some of the things we came up with, that the specific times, 3 o'clock in the morning and other times specifically that abductees report most of their events occurring, not all of them certainly, because some of them are daylight events as some of mine were when I was hunting.
But some of these times, these people are extremely susceptible based on their sleep patterns.
And of course, now your debunkers are going to come after that and say, well, it's because it's sleep paralysis.
Well, anybody that has half a brain knows about sleep paralysis and can figure that out.
In fact, one of the parts in our book, a surgical nurse is writing it with me.
And Pat goes into great detail since she's also a surgical patient of sleep paralysis and other altered states from various kinds of anesthesia, drugs, and so on, and what they do and what they produce.
So it's going to be quite an interesting read from that point of view because she goes into everything.
Well, look, the fact that there's an implant in somebody, that's about enough for me.
I've had them described in various ways by a surgeon who's actually cut into them, and they're covered by some sort of web-like material that is really strange and resists even the very sharpest scalpels.
And then sort of after a while, after it's out, if they can get it, disintegrates.
Well, the objects that we retrieved, we actually took and placed in a scientific setting through the National Institutes of Discovery Science and had 18 of their scientists review the work that had been done.
No, as a matter of fact, let me back up just a little bit to set the stage a little better for the audience.
In 1994, I was invited to speak to 250 surgeons at John Muir Medical Hospital.
The subject was medical complications of alleged human-alien contact.
Now, this is a continuing education program for surgeons.
And here I come in with this presentation, and they're literally, literally stunned at what the presentation is, and they're stunned that there's medical evidence, and they're amazed that I'm not, I told them I'm not here to convince you of this, the entities that do this stuff.
I'm simply asking you to, but really, I want you to prove me wrong.
That's what I'm here for.
And here's how you prove me wrong.
And I told them when these people started coming in, and I brought two abductees who had medical anomalies on them.
And they gave their testimony.
And I told the surgeons, I said, listen, if you'll start checking these lumps, bumps, scars, and different things these people come in with, what you're going to find is some of these people are going to have nerve cells that are not native to that part of the body in this place.
And what you're looking for, most of the time, is see if it's benign or it might be cancerous.
That's pretty much all you're looking for.
Please start analyzing these things closer, and if they're really alien in origin, I said, here's what you're going to find.
I said, so prove me wrong.
Here are the points.
First of all, you'll find that there'll be no technology, no discernible technology whatsoever.
None.
That's the first thing.
It's going to stun everybody about these implants when they're first removed.
Second, we're going to find that nerve cells are going to be present that are not native to that part of the body.
And third, I said, in some cases, I said, well, I think a lot of what we're looking at right now, the metal and the other implants that we're looking at here in these CAT scans, MRIs, and X-rays, in fact, are passe.
They're actually old and outdated.
I think what we're going to eventually start finding are biological implants in people.
It's going to be an accident when we find it.
And they're going to have nerve cells that are really bizarre because they're going to be central nervous system cells.
In essence, you would have a little mini brain right there in any part of the body.
But here you are, and here I am, and here you are with your therapist because you have severe headaches so severe that they have to take you away in an ambulance when you start talking about this UFO thing.
Why do you suppose that might be?
Well, anyway, long story short is I pulled out a blacklight and said, do you mind if I check you with this?
And she said, of course, I had another investigator there in her psychotherapist, and she said, well, not at all.
Go ahead.
And I said, I just want to look at your exposed skin.
What we found on this woman was in the invisible range below 400 nanometers, using a blacklight, it excited a portion on the inside of her arm of a Mandelbrot set.
First of all, I suspected, let's put the police hat back on.
If a crime has been committed, in my view, there are crimes.
If a crime of abduction has been done, if it's real, if it's real, if these events are real, it is incumbent upon us as abductees or anyone else investigating this to make a case.
I sensed that these entities see in the invisible range, and that's the reason it's almost impossible to photograph them, because they see your cameras on whenever you set them up.
According to a DSP satellite specialist they use infrared, ultraviolet, and visible light to see plumes of nuclear missiles firing and this sort of thing to protect us, these 18 satellites called the DSP satellites.
When he met me in Los Angeles, he said, I've got the biggest question in the world.
He said, how in the world could you possibly think that?
Music Incidentally, just a quick note, a number of people have fast blasted to say, you know, that's not the right recording you're playing of the earth tearing.
Yes, it is.
The recording I have is identical to the ones that others have set.
It's a rolling thunder, I guess would be described, kind of a rolling thunder, a horrible sound, and that is indeed there, along with the beeping.
Now, my recording is one of the ones that came directly from the folks that did this, and I caught the alarms going off with it, so that's what you're hearing.
But the fact that the rolling didn't come through to everybody, it did to some.
You know, as I go through, it's about 50-50.
If your receiver didn't have a good bass response, you're not going to be able to hear it.
But it was clearly there along with the alarm sound.
Some have a recording of just the, I guess, the rolling thunder sound alone, and that's fine.
But for some people with small radios, you know, small speaker systems, it's just not going to come through.
So it was definitely there in spades, but you just couldn't hear it.
Now, once again, with regard to Daryl Sims, Daryl, that's how I feel about it.
You know, I mean, people telling stories, interesting, even Fascinating, but stories.
When you get down to we've pulled this from somebody's body, we've had it tested, and it's not of earth origin, then you've placed your hand on something that's definitely a notch above in the proof category.
And since I've traveled worldwide and I've got over a thousand cases worldwide, you have to obviously if the events are real, you're going to come up with certain things, features that work.
Number one, traits or things that occur to abductees that are consistent worldwide in any language, whether they even where they live out in the bush of Brazil, it doesn't make any difference.
I mean, if we ever want to prove this to the greater scientific community, we have to come up with just the kind of thing you're talking about right now.
You're also talking about there's some woman, apparently, that you're aware of that has been, she feels, implanted genetically inseminated artificial insemination of some sort.
And she said, well, she said, I've been to a hypnotist, and we get all the way up to an event where everything gets real foggy, and I see there are two entities.
I can remember this even consciously.
He said, there's like there's someone in the room, two people in the room, And I can't figure out what they're doing there, and then I'm just completely blocked.
I can't figure anything out.
She said, Can you help me?
And I said, Yes, I can.
And she says, Why couldn't the hypnotist get this information?
I said, Because if your story is real, I said, and I'm going to find that out real quick here, you're going to find out that the entity has placed a block inside your memory.
And she said, why would they do that?
And I said, well, I really don't want to discuss all that with you.
Let's find out, first of all, if you even have a real event or not.
I said, you know, we don't know that yet.
And she said, well, the event is so severe that I divorced my husband over it.
So she said, this is not something I took lightly.
And I said, why would you divorce your husband over this event?
She said, we had decided not to have sex during this time years ago in the time of Betty and Barney Hill.
She wanted to finish up the end of her work, and then she would become the housewife, so to speak, and stay at home, and they would have their children.
They were going to really plan this thing out very well.
But unexpectedly, obviously, she wakes up in the middle of the night here, and there's semen all over her stomach, and her husband's sound asleep, and she wakes up and just slaps him silly, and he thinks she's completely insane.
And she says, you know, she says all kinds of expletives about what happened to her.
And there's no other explanation, of course, than him.
And he doesn't have a clue what in the world is going on.
Well, he denied it, and she accused him of it.
And basically, they're both telling the truth.
Neither one of them know the whole story.
And they divorced over it.
And so I kind of butted in.
I said, now, wait a minute.
What happened next?
She said, well, I became pregnant.
And I said, well, now, wait, wait, wait.
You're saying that you woke up with semen all over your stomach, two people are in the room you don't know, short people and you can't describe them, and your husband's sound asleep.
They never ever, it's almost as if these people are told not to look or not to look for evidence.
It's One of the reasons it's difficult to get abductees to even come forward with evidence.
And I've done this in support groups and asked people: how many of you people ever feel like you've had a medical procedure of some kind by these entities?
And almost every hand will go up.
How many of you people will go down and get an x-ray for me tomorrow or this week or this month and all hands will go down?
Well, to connect the dots for me, when I went into the Central Intelligence Agency during the Vietnam War, one of the things I found out in my training, of course, I didn't sit there and tell them that I was previously an abductee or anything like that.
But one of the things I noticed about our training and the things that we did in the company was we did two things primarily.
One is we lied and we lied consistently about everything.
It would not be hired probably or taken into the company under that range.
So I found out that based on our training, everything we were doing, the entities had been doing the same thing in my life and in the lives of other people, doing the same thing.
Sheep dipping is a process where the Central Intelligence Agency goes in and takes military people, and I'd volunteered during the Vietnam War for that effort.
And I had been, I was at Fort Gordon at a military police school, and while there, about 70 of us were asked to go to a special building, and we had no idea why we had been picked or chosen or anything.
We had no idea that we had all been looked at long before.
And we were sent to this building, and there were three people there, and they asked us a lot of questions, and they pretty much cleaned out the room with the exception of about 20 people.
What I was doing with the Central Intelligence Agency was providing a number of security for one, and second, I also taught martial arts in the Central Intelligence Agency to dependents and some of their personnel.
One of the purposes of what we were doing ultimately in the entire effort was to take JOTs or junior officer trainees, people who are recruited at universities and colleges, if they meet the criteria,
and especially if they have specialized language skills, like Farsi and Chinese and appropriate languages, they would be taken and if they again pass those tests and so on and pass their top-secret clearance and other evaluations, then they would be sent to one of three different installations in the United States, top-secret installations for CIA training.
When they found out what skills I had after I got there, when my primary function was providing security for covert operations and, gosh, this is kind of ugly.
Well, I was really surprised because there was one of our guys who works in the, who is a civilian.
Are you ready for this?
He's a civilian with a top-secret clearance working there in the Public Works Department with an AK-47 like he was From some other country dressed appropriately.
This individual, when he apparently got here, he never knew he was in America, never ever knew any of this.
This was like something out of Mission Impossible.
In fact, when he was allowed to get out and walk the grounds during the day, I later found out, he even found gum wrappers from the place he was supposed to be at that they had accidentally left there for him to find, of course.
They even imported the bugs from the country he was supposed to be at in the little prison that they had.
If you fill that out and you sign it, you commit a federal crime if you sign that knowing that there are errors on it.
Everything that I've told you concerning my military police record as a senior military police officer, 95B40, including my private investigations license and so on and so on, all these other things, all that stuff that's listed, it's a federal felony for you to lie on that form.
I mean, I literally am handing somebody what they need.
You know, if you want to get me, this is the way to do it.
If I never was in the CIA, in fact, when I talked about being a martial arts instructor for civilian and for some of their personnel as well, which I did this for a while there, there is a letter that went to Langley from our installation by our station chief.
And he forwarded this, and there are approximately, oh, there must be about approximately 20 names.
I haven't counted them.
But those names that are all hand signatures on that recommendation letter to my, of how well I'm conducting my classes and all of this sort of thing.
If you get Frank A. Gee's book, The Expose on the Central Intelligence Agency, he's the case officer that finally turned on the company.
It is listed in the number of those people are mentioned, the signatures on there are in his book on the people he exposed as station chiefs all over the world.
They're handwritten on my documentation.
There again, you know, you can go ahead and fake a document like that if you want to, but it's a felony.
When a central intelligence agency or any other branch decides to take you like that in the intelligence community, if they want to do this, you just stay on record as in the military, and what happens is you get transferred to wherever it is you're supposed to be.
Your record just basically on goes, but where you were at in terms of your function is not going to show up.
I don't have a handle on this business of what it is that they seem to be interested in genetically.
We know that 45%.
Artificial insemination, apparently this takes place.
Betty and Barney Hills, they reported it.
This lady, this surgical nurse, she reported it.
There again, as I told her, I said, I said, Eventually, I think what we're going to find, and I said, I'm going to, after her case was over, I told her, I said, what I think we're going to find is if your story is true, and I said, and I still don't know what it is or isn't, but if it is true, what we're going to find is that your husband is not the daddy, but then that's not going to surprise anybody, really.
She would take that very personally if someone said that to her face.
She'd probably slap you.
The second thing I said I think we're going to find with some of these ladies, if their pregnancy comes a term, is that the mother is probably not going to be the mommy.
Again, I'm sure there are people in the audience who love to hear a different story on this.
I don't think that's going to be the case.
I think what's going to happen in some of these cases where there's strong evidence of this, we're going to find that the mommy and the daddy are not the mommy and daddy of the child.
This whole genetic artificial insemination, sexual aspect to abduction, when you really get to know somebody, you really get to know them, like Whitley Strieber, for example, maybe sometimes years later, even though we've known each other very well, it came out one night spontaneously on the air that there was, in fact, a sexual aspect to it.
And to most abductions, when you dig deep enough, you find out something like that's in there.
One of the reasons that this is not spoken a lot about is because, number one, it doesn't sell.
Two things won't sell in the UFO field.
One is the sexual aspect of what these entities do to you as a child, and they don't do it to everybody, but there often is a sexual aspect of it to children.
Well, the problem with this is if you're selling certain kinds of books in the field, this and the human aspect of it where death or severe trauma occurs, that's not a very good seller.
People don't want to hear that.
They want to hear they're here to save the planet, fix the ozone hole, or whatever.
And I'm sorry, they're not here.
If they're going to do that, they'd have done it thousands of years ago and they didn't.
Well, to me, that there again goes back to the same old thing concerning my own child.
You know, when stuff like this happens to your own children, and then you later find, you know, that your brother's an abductee, you're an abductee, your son's an abductee.
Again, I don't have any, I do not have any I have the stories of that, but I don't have, I've never met any of them, so to speak.
I definitely have abductees who are as credible, and I guarantee you you would be glad to have them on a, I mean, there are people in the medical field, some of them doctors.
I mean, one of them is in the Who's Who of Houston for doctors, an abductee.
I've got three abductees that are NASA scientists.
I mean, which of these people do you not like?
So these are credible, decent people.
And it's not that you have to be a doctor or anything to be credible anyway.
People are just, just because someone sees something, hears something, or feels something that most others have not experienced doesn't make them a liar.
As Travis Walton says, absence of evidence isn't evidence of absence.
Well, in the case where we have 31% of abductees in some cases reporting rare drug allergies to procanes, one way that you might have an allergy to something is to actually be infected or affected by it in some way.
In other words, someone may have given you procanes in some way or another, either through injections or whatever, over a period of time, you finally became allergic to it.
But procane allergies are extremely rare.
In fact, if you tell your doctor I have a procane allergy, he'll probably laugh at you and say they're so rare that it doesn't, you know, we never even test one.
First of all, I want to make this very clear to your audience.
There are a lot of stories about a lot of people being implanted.
And first of all, your audience does need to know this, that I look at hundreds of x-rays every year worldwide.
Right.
I mean hundreds of them.
And I find almost no, maybe less than 1% of people who have actually have an object that may be referred to as an implant.
And in a number of those, you'll find that many of the objects that you're finding there, assuming that it's a real object and it's not just a mistake on the x-ray or whatever, that in fact many of those are due to something else, such as a guy that claimed he had never had a previous surgery, yet we found a clavicular screw in his shoulder.
Well, I'm sorry, the aliens didn't do that.
That's from a previous surgery.
You may not have known it.
You may have forgotten it, or you may not have told the truth.
But the fact is, that's a human device there.
And implants are extremely rare.
I think that the implanted or embedded objects, as I like to use the term, embedded objects are there for a purpose.
I think a lot of them that we're finding are leftovers.
Well, I had one case where we removed a device from a guy's jaw, and he claimed it was inserted there by some intelligence community.
And I said, well, you don't really fit the criteria of a quote-unquote alien abductee.
And I said, but I'm going to go ahead and spend the money and the time on you to take you through the surgery to find out what this is because you claim that they're programming voices in your head and all this stuff.
And he said, that's true.
Well, we removed the object, and it turned out to be a normal piece of lead, like from the spatter effect from a grenade or some, you know, a bullet or something like that.
The fact is that I don't think anyone ultimately really at this point knows because, like I said, they function just like we did in the intelligence community.
We lied and we lied about everything.
That's the nature of intelligence.
That's what we do.
It's called deception.
That's what the business was about.
And if you're not very good at it, then you lose and the other side wins.
And I don't see the difference in this phenomenon.
I don't see the difference.
Everywhere I find, I find subterfuge.
I find where these people have been deceived.
We had a mass abduction of eight people in Houston and in another state, all eight taken at the same time, same place, all described the exact same location.
If you had to guess, I know you hate to do that, and I realize I'm asking you to guess about what their motivation is in doing all of this, what would you say?
Well, first of all, I think the perception that's generally accepted in the UFO field is incorrect, and I'll explain that.
The general view of the UFO field is that there is a lateral view, like a lineup, basically, in a police situation, where you're looking at your perpetrators or possible perps.
And he's often referred to by many abductees as the doctor or the guy that's going to do the exam on you and take care of you or whatever is going to happen.
Then you may encounter a mantis-like being.
You may encounter a human-type being and others.
But what I think the UFO people, the UFO community in general has missed, and there again, I could be wrong here, but this is just my perception after 38 years of looking at this thing.
My thinking is that there are several tiers of this.
And the reason I say that is because in my last event, the guys that showed up were not the guys that showed up in the first event or in the other events for 13 years.
And I had a group full of people up in Tampa, Florida.
The room was full of engineers and pretty educated people.
One individual sitting in that room was worth $52 million that I knew about.
And they asked a number of questions about my experiences.
And I said, well, most of you people sitting in this room think they came here to save the planet.
And I said, that's not my view, so you probably won't want to hear my view.
I think that there is an interest that they have in us, not that they're breeding things into us as some people believe, but it would make more sense to me that they were breeding things out of our lineage, not into it.
Or simply, for instance, suppose it were a problem for them, that a lineage was a problem.
Wouldn't it be better to try to manipulate that lineage if you couldn't do something else than You might alter the what's the difference in lab rats?
If you have a series of lab rats and you've got this one series of lab rats that will not comply, they will simply will not obey, then you can either get rid of the lab rats or you can try to alter them genetically.
But you're going to have to get rid of that problem or you're going to have a problem with those lab rats from then on.
Problems that could create problems for you if you had an agenda that...
If you don't, and the little genetic engineer, so to speak, picks you up and handles you, and if it's me in this scenario, then I'm probably going to bite him.
And he's probably going to thump me on the head and tell me I will remember instead of you won't remember.
And my experiences are going to be pretty unpleasant because I didn't cooperate.
A good example is you can, and I took two best examples of this, is one is called a transderivational search.
This is called a kinesthetic or a touch transderivational search, where you can literally have a person recall the very first time they ever saw, for instance, if the entity was wonderful and kind and sweet and wonderful to them.
You can take them back to the very first event, the very first time.
The means is the body will make a series of associations all the way back to the very first time if you lose proper linguistic patterns and encode, because the memory encodes in certain ways.
And if you understand that, they'll go back to the very first memory, which is often quite horrific.
Not the kind, sweet memory that they were sitting here smiling about the moment.
not really this particular technique is very involved linguistics right in other words putting on it That's why I wish you would have been there because when you see this, it's just stunning to see the difference between hypnosis and something very conscious, non-suggested.
But the fact is that you also have memory markers that occur in your memory.
You're going to have to yell at us when you're not talking.
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Thanks for the opportunity for this question.
Darrell, it was mentioned in your bio that you do hypnosis anesthesia, and I was wondering, being a person myself that needs really serious surgery and cannot have any anesthesia, if it's something that you teach or that you are present to do?
And in 1980, I started having deep puncture marks in my body, always at the base where your neck and your head meet, and between my eyes, and now in other places.
And after these things, I would be so weak I couldn't even walk the next day.
And I blew something out of my nose one day that was a silver thing, I guess about a half an inch long.
And I mentioned it to somebody, and then a few days later, I had another puncture mark which was.
I've heard it from others who do what you do and investigate this sort of thing, that people actually have destroyed their own evidence and then suddenly said, what the hell did I do that for?
You know, you've got to absolutely love the internet.
Benjamin in Paris, France, says, Art, we've spoken on several occasions.
Please, if you would, Art, refer to the books of Dr. David Jacobs.
I've read Secret Life and the Threat.
Mr. Sims would just be more objective in his findings and less emotional.
Perhaps he'd be taken more seriously.
Well, I don't know about that part of it, but I do want to ask you about the threat.
Dr. Jacobs is one of only a very few people like yourself, Darrell, that I talk to that clearly suggests, You know, the people who think these are all warm, fuzzy little creatures ought to probably be themselves examined.
I mean, he may not go quite that far, but that they're not necessarily warm and fuzzy.
Their intentions toward us are not necessarily good, and that's a very minimal view in ufology.
First of all, I met Dr. Jacobs in Brasilia, and he stood in a line of about 50 people, waited his turn, and whenever he finally got to me to speak after my presentation, he looked at me and said, Darrell, I am sad to say that I am not familiar with your work.
He said, first of all, I'm stunned that there is physical evidence.
I did not know there was that kind of volume of evidence.
And he said, and I just want to apologize that I am not more familiar with your work.
Some of the answers that I came up with was in my last event.
The entities that showed up there were, in fact, different than the others.
And the best way I could describe them, if I could describe them, from my point of view, and it's strictly personal, is that they acted more like something like the SS of the alien.
I mean, they were there to enforce business.
They were not there to give you any medical advice or do this or that or an examination or anything else.
And it certainly is a giant leap from those who are satisfied and perfectly happy with your implant, and they think they're, or they are, contactees, and they act in some happy little manner, transferring the word that all's going to be well and so forth, right?
They do try to leave that impression, but the fact is, whenever you're lying there with something inserted up your nasal passage and you're screaming, it's highly likely that that's not exactly the true event.
Daryl, I'm a 60-year-old ex-aerospace engineer, and frighteningly, I have to say, I find you 100% credible.
Now, my question is, can you put your cock brain to sleep long enough to let the other side of the brain conjecture on really what the ultimate purpose of these individuals and their activities is?
In the final event, it seems to me, after the smoke clears and everything's on the cutting room floor, it all boils back down to the psychological and spiritual rape of an individual.
Even the physical taking of these people and abduction and the things that they do to these people, it is unimaginable that any sentient being would do this for any reasonable purpose whatsoever.
Now, I can see how people would come up with that because it would, you know, the mind wants to jump at the most logical thing it can grasp, something it knows.
Your voice has been missing for so long, and it's great to have you back.
Thank you.
I have a question for Daryl and also a question for you.
And I'll just go ahead and spit them out and then let you answer them on the air.
First of all, Daryl, do you think it's possible in any way that maybe these beings are us from the future coming back?
And you pointed out that maybe they were trying to alter our DNA.
Maybe there's something with the earth changes that Art has spoken about so many times where there's like a nuclear winter and we have to live underground with the surface.
Like Nelson Mandela and others, that millions and millions of people thought that Nelson Mandela was killed.
That he was dead.
At least they had that planted in their head.
And yet Nelson Mandela, of course, went on to lead his nation as president.
And yet people had this, somehow had this thought that he had died.
And this wasn't a few people.
This was massive numbers of people.
And it's almost as though something massive changed, Darrell.
As though some twist occurred and not one person or not ten people who were abducted forgot, but everybody virtually forgot.
Because something in time changed.
So I don't know if I rule that out.
I mean, it's no crazier or wilder than people from Alpha Centauri or angels or some derivation of angels or spirits or ghosts or those who have passed before us.
I don't know.
All of these things, it seems to me, nearly have to remain on the table until we know for sure.
Motive is to prepare them because the implant we have can be turned on, and they can communicate when Yashua comes with us to prepare to leave the planet.
If you look in the Bible, it'll say that they will remove 144,000.
The problem I have with the story of so many people being implanted, specifically Native Americans and so on, you've got to realize 45% of the people I'm looking at are Native American and Irish or a combination there.
And these people look at these x-rays and MRIs and everything, and we're not finding the volume that these people are speaking about.
It just isn't there.
The evidence for that statement is just not there medically.
One of the predictions I made to the 250 surgeons, a fourth prediction I made was that eventually we will find objects inside people that have technology.
This will be discernible, clear, and it's obvious that it will be, in my opinion, human.
And I suspect that if, number one, if you can prove that the object came from someone, in other words, there's a medical history of that, and that that story is true, or if you'd just like for us to look at it, I'd like for you to take some photographs of it, pictures of it, send me the JPEGs, and let our engineers look at it.