All Episodes
Previous Next
April 9, 2005 - Art Bell
02:55:02
Coast to Coast AM with Art Bell - Ed Dames - EVPs ETs and our Coming Doom
| Copy link to current segment

Time Text
Music.
The high desert and the great American southwest.
Happy to do all good evening, good afternoon, good morning, whatever time of day it may be in your time zone.
Prolific as they are, every single one of them covered by this program, Coast to Coast AMI.
I'm Art Bell, my honor and privilege to be escorting you through yet another weekend.
All right.
First, I want to do a total free book promo for Michael Crichton.
Oh, my God.
You know, I'm an avid reader.
Really avid.
I devour, I devour books.
I just, uh, I read and I read and I read and, you know, I get off, uh, very late in the morning when I do work and so I'm a night owl all the time.
And then when I finally do settle into bed, I get involved in a book and baby, that's it.
If it's a good one, I can't stop.
I'm sure many of the avid readers out there are familiar with that problem.
Anyway, Rarely, as many books as I read, rarely do I say, man, this is one you've got to read.
But, man, this is one you've got to read!
It's Michael Crichton's Prey.
Now, I don't know how I... I've read State of Fear, so I'm late on Prey, and I don't know how I miss Prey, but let me read you from the back of the book.
In the Nevada desert, it's always the Nevada desert, in the Nevada desert, an experiment has gone horribly wrong.
A cloud of nanoparticles, micro-robots, has escaped from the laboratory.
This cloud is self-sustaining, self-reproducing, intelligent, and learns from experience.
For all practical purposes, it is alive.
It has been programmed as a predator.
It is evolving swiftly, becoming more deadly with each passing hour.
Every attempt to destroy it has failed.
And now we are the prey.
That should be enough to get you started.
And it's one of those, I can't put it down, and I'm halfway through it, and I'm already angry because I'm halfway through it, which means I only have half to go.
That happens to me with books.
I wonder how many of you are that way.
When you get one so good, so good, that you're savoring every page, and it's getting shorter and shorter, and you're almost done, and you just know the next book you pick up has not got a chance of being that good.
Well, that's prey.
So, look for it, grab it, whatever.
All right, let us quickly look at the usual depressing world news.
No exception tonight, I might add.
It's the second anniversary of the fall of Saddam's regime, the toppling of the statue and all of that symbolism and all the rest of it and of course there were thousands if not millions of happy thankful screaming iraqis uh... saying thank you america in the streets right tens of thousands of supporters of a militant shiite cleric filled central baghdad street saturday and demanded that american soldiers go home
Marking the second anniversary of Baghdad's fall with shouts of no-no to Satan.
That would be us, right?
Or Satan.
We saved them from a brutal dictator who tortures and kills, and we're Satan.
Is there no end of the thanks you get?
To the west of the capital, 5,000 protesters issue similar demands in the Sunni triangle city of Ramadi.
Make that Ramadi.
Reflecting a growing impatience with the U.S.-led occupation, and the slow pace of returning control to an infant Iraqi government.
So, there's no end to the punishment one gets for trying to do something good for people.
Prince Charles and Camilla Parker Bowles got married, and that just led the news and everything, and I don't know, to me it's a big so what.
The British royals are okay, I don't know.
I don't care what Prince Charles does, and I wonder how many Americans really do.
Cardinals.
This, of course, is going to be interesting.
Cardinals began an intensive period of silence and prayer before their conclave to choose the next pope, saying Saturday they would now stop speaking publicly.
In a moment, that was as much of interest as I could drag out of the normal world news.
tradition this is going to be something for all of you to watch it's really
really really going to be interesting
in a moment uh... that that was as much of interest as i could drag out of the
normal world news in in a moment the rest of the news is paul would say in
some of it is doggone interesting would you like
i am every bit as fascinated uh... maybe even more so with holes in the ground
as i am with space travel We know less about what's beneath our feet than we do what's beyond our atmosphere.
You know, that's a fact.
Well, I've got two stories to stand your hair right on end if you're one of those type people.
Story number one, we'll just get it boiling up a little.
Hole drilled to bottom of Earth's crust.
Breakthrough to mantle looms.
That is the headline.
Scientists said this week that they had drilled into the lower section of Earth's crust for the first time and were poised to break through to the mantle in coming years.
The Integrated Ocean Drilling Program, you see they're doing that out at ocean, seeks the elusive Moho, a boundary formerly known as the Mokro Civic Discontinuity.
It marks the division between the Earth's brittle outer crust and the hotter, softer mantle.
The depths of the Moho vary.
This latest report, which drilled 4,000, make that 4,644 feet, below the ocean seafloor appears to have been about a thousand feet off to the side of where it should have been to pierce the mole hole.
So in other words, they got down there quite a ways and they began going off to the side instead of drilling down to the soft, chewy center.
The new hole, which took nearly eight weeks to drill, is the third deepest ever made.
The rock collection brought back to the surface, providing new info about the planet's composition One of the scientists said it will provide important clues on how ocean crust forms.
Already the types of rocks recovered show that conventional interpretation of the Earth's evolution are oversimplifying many of the features of the ocean's crust.
So in other words, what they're finding does not exactly coincide with what they thought they would find way down there.
The latest drilling was done at the Atlantis Massive Known at the intersection of Mid-Atlantic Ridge and the Atlantis Fracture Zone, two plates of the planet's broken crust.
The seafloor of this region is therefore easier to reach, you see.
It's not clear whether drilling should continue at the new hole, or if they should begin another hole in yet another effort to reach the mantle.
Such work is not likely to begin again in the next year, said Barbara John, a University of Wyoming geologist.
and one of the co-chief scientists on the expedition.
We need to evaluate all the data we have from the crews and reanalyze the seismic data to determine whether it's better to deepen the current hole or drill elsewhere or maybe even collect additional seismic data to better constrain where to drill.
Now, this next story I love.
Well, I love it for its entertainment value, and I guess it's somewhat entertaining, in a way, to imagine this, but I'm not so sure it's a great idea.
The headline is, NASA Meets Hollywood.
Real Mission Proposed to the Earth's Core.
And this is the senior science writer, Robert Roy Britt.
A Hollywood-like proposal to explore the center of the Earth, listen carefully now, folks, calls for exploding a crack in the planet's surface and then dropping a probe in behind tons of molten iron, which would sink and then forge a path all the way to the core of the Earth.
The plan is not ready for prime time, its creator told Space.com, but neither is it pie in the sky.
Exploring Earth's belly is ambitious in a scientific sense and could yield valuable data.
The solid inner core, actually, rotates faster than the outer core, which is fluid and is responsible for our magnetic field.
But scientists don't know exactly why all this is so, nor do they know the exact composition or temperature of the core.
If further research showed the core mission could actually work, It would be comparable in dollar terms with many space projects, said David Stevenson, a Caltech planetary scientist who worked on several missions for NASA.
Stevenson explains his idea in an article entitled, A Modest Proposal, for the May 15th issue of the journal Nature.
So this is good stuff, folks.
Let's continue.
Stevenson figures... Now, see if you're ready for this.
Then all you do is take a nuclear device.
Big one.
That would likely be the best way, he says, to blast the necessary gap.
As long and deep as several football fields and about a foot wide, 30 centimeters, the event would be commensurate with an earthquake measuring about 7 on the Richter scale.
At least 100,000 tons of hot iron would be poured instantly into the crack, along with
a well-protected probe about the size of a grapefruit.
Once you set that condition up, the crack, he says, is self-perpetuating.
Think of that, a self-perpetuating crack.
He explains the weight of the iron, which is much denser than the Earth's outer regions,
would open a gap all the way to the outer portion of the planet's core, about 1860 miles
The probe would fall at about 10 miles per hour, 16 kilometers per hour, as the crack closes up behind it.
The weeks-long mission would seek to measure the temperature Electrical conductivity and chemical composition of the core, Stevenson said, the amount of iron needed is equal to what's produced on Earth in about a week or less.
We've spent more than 10 billion dollars in unplanned missions to the planet, said Stevenson, but we've only been down about 10 kilometers, 6.2 miles, into our very own planet.
Most of the universe is above us and empty.
Stevenson notes, yet, quote, the part below is crammed with interesting stuff and is mostly unknown, end quote.
A spacecraft sends its observations back, of course, as we know by radio, but radio signals don't propagate through the planet.
So, the Earth probe would relay data to the surface by deforming itself to create low-intensity waves akin to sending sound from a loudspeaker.
Think of the probe like a throbbing heart, said Stevenson.
It will set the neighboring material in motion, and that will cause the sound wave to travel away from the probe, in fact, all the way to the Earth's surface.
The idea is a bit reminiscent of a recently released movie, The Core, in which pteronauts travel into the planet to jumpstart the core, which has stopped rotating and begun to cause all manner of peril at the surface.
In an email interview, Stevenson said he first conceived a core mission many years ago, and that the scientific connection between the fiction and his fact-based proposal is negligible.
But, once again, ladies and gentlemen, we would create a crack in the Earth.
And we would do this with a very large nuclear device, which would produce about a 7 on the Richter scale.
Kaboom!
And then the idea is this crack would continue to open and close behind the probe that would be rocketing toward its center.
Now, I'd like to see a show of hands on this one.
How many of you would like to see a nuclear device exploded, causing a crack in the Earth, and then a probe sent to its very heart?
Is this a good or bad idea?
Anyway, NASA involved, they've had some pretty strange ideas over the years.
One of my favorites was that in order to combat global warming, it was suggested that an object Perhaps a large, you know, rock, space rock, perhaps two, three miles in diameter, would be reoriented so it made a very close pass to Earth, knocking Earth from its present orbit and moving it a little further away from the Sun, producing cooling, definite cooling.
And then, say the scientists, when we get global warming under control, we simply arrange the passage of yet another close rock, returning us to our original orbit.
At the time, I didn't think that was a great idea exactly, and I still am not necessarily in favor of it, but I would say this is right along those lines.
Put a nuke down a crack, Make a giant crevice, and then have this thing that virtually falls right to the very center of the Earth.
But God, I would follow it, wouldn't you?
Wouldn't it be interesting?
Aren't you dying to know what's really down in the middle of the Earth?
I know I am.
I don't think they know!
I think the middle of the Earth is every bit as mysterious as... as what is beyond our atmosphere.
I got a very, very interesting, I don't know why this touched me the way it did, but it did.
It did.
It says, Howdy Art.
You might not know this, but ferrets, ferrets are very smart animals with very distinct personalities.
I've never known two ferrets whose personalities were alike.
They make great pets.
But they are hard and expensive to take care of.
Not exactly a pet for everyone.
They are not at all like hamsters or gerbils.
They love to interact with people to the extent of almost requiring it.
My wife and I have nine of them, and they keep us busy.
Anyway, I posted in the ferret mailing list, one of the biggest ferret forums, about my experience with a ferret of mine named Mocha.
Mocha was a small, dark, sable, female ferret.
She was one of my favorites.
Two Christmases ago, she actually caught the flu from me.
Now, I didn't know that was possible.
I did not know that humans could pass flu to their animals.
But, he says, Mocha caught flu from him.
As a result, she caught a secondary bacterial infection and went into her nervous system.
We lost her shortly afterward.
It was horrible, as you can imagine.
Yes, I can.
Losing a pet is like losing a child.
When Mocha was alive, she had the habit of crawling up my leg to say hi and see what was going on with my computer.
About a week or so after she died, I was sitting at my computer, and I felt Mocha nudging my ankle, just as she's always done, as she had always done before she died.
Just before she climbed up my leg.
Well, I looked down.
Of course, nothing was there.
At first I was startled.
That's how real it seemed to me.
My emotions went rampant.
I closed my eyes just so I could absorb it.
Tears came.
Over the course of the next two weeks or so, I'd feel her nudging my feet every once in a while.
Almost always when I wouldn't have expected it.
Every time I'd close my eyes and try to absorb the feeling of her.
I always talked to her.
I told her how much I missed her.
I was sorry I gave her the flu.
Eventually, when I felt the nudge, it was like an old friend visiting.
I would manage to sneak in and smile.
I'd sneak in a smile with my tears.
After a couple of weeks, it did stop.
I had always thought that she had come back to say goodbye since I was working.
When she actually died, my wife was one to have taken her to the vets, and we lost her shortly thereafter.
My wife never experienced any of the visits I received, maybe because she was there to say goodbye.
Now, this is what I hadn't expected.
Shortly after I posted this story, I got a couple of responses from ferret owners who'd had the same kind of thing going on with them, one of them with a cat.
At any rate, thank you very, very much for the email.
And, you know, I had a cat once named Yesu.
And Yesu got shot.
Somebody shot Yesu.
And Yesu... Anyway, there are many times... I wasn't there, I also was not there when Yesu died, but many times I have felt the presence of this cat that was so so very close to me and I too talk to you so I don't know I don't know are these real manifestations whether it's a human or an animal sort of visiting after physical death or more likely are they manifestations of our own brain well of course things like
Like we do on the show, like the voices that are picked up on electronic equipment that we play here on the air.
Those kinds of things certainly have got to make you go, hmm.
I will continue to explain.
In fact, tomorrow night, Dr. Raymond Moody is going to be on this program and it'll be dead down that alley once again.
No pun intended.
I've got another very interesting story for you about a man who was driving his car and died at least he believes that's what occurred in fact he sent me a picture of the uh... the accident and uh... clearly nobody could have come out of this alive and he did
And in a way, he didn't, depending on whether you believe what he has to say.
But we'll get to that story when we come back.
Bottom of the hour, we're going to be doing open lines, so listen very carefully.
The phone numbers are a bit different on the weekend.
We'll have them for you in a moment.
Along with the story of the man who died, but didn't exactly, from the high desert in the middle of the night on the weekend.
This is Coast to Coast AM.
I'm Art Bell.
I'm Art Bell.
In the heat of a summer night, in the land of the dollar bill,
In the heat of a summer night In the land of the dollar bill
When the town of Chicago died And they talk about it still
when the town of Chicago died, and they talk about it still.
When a man named Al Capone Tried to make that town his own
When a man named Al Capone, tried to make that town his own,
And he called his gang to war With the forces of the law
and he called his gang to war, with the forces of the law.
I heard my mama cry I heard her pray the night Chicago died
A boom boom bah A boom boom bah
A boom boom bah A boom boom bah
In the heat of a summer night A boom boom bah
Do you hear my heartbeat in this country?
Do you know that behind all this fuss Lies a ditty sire that I may lay
Making money for the internet I'm not dreams to be all I can do
So I will let her go I'd sure like to meet the idiot who canceled Dead Like Me.
That's all I've got to say.
Good morning, everybody.
How you doing?
I want you to listen very closely, because the numbers are a bit different on the weekend, and here they are.
To talk with Art Bell, call the wildcard line at area code 775-727-1295.
code 775-727-1295. The first time caller line is area code 775-727-1222. To talk with Art
Bell from East of the Rockies, call toll free at 800-825-5033.
From west of the Rockies, call Art at 800-618-8255.
International callers may reach Art Bell by calling your in-country Sprint Access number, pressing Option 5 and dialing toll-free 800-893-0903.
800-893-0903. From coast to coast and worldwide on the internet, this is Coast to Coast AM
It is, and... Dead Like Me was on Showtime with Ellen Moth.
I interviewed her, I was so impressed with that program, remember?
Well, anyway, some idiot cancelled it.
I must admit, the second season drifted away from the original concept.
All they would have had to have done is to resurrect it properly, is to return what they had done to what they had done in the first season, which was absolutely brilliant!
Brilliant.
If you ever get a chance to see the first season of Dead Like Me, you don't want to miss it.
And they should return to that and bring it out somewhere else because it just was brilliant stuff.
in a moment the story of of the man who died but uh... well didn't
i don't know i just like this story It's just an email, and here it is.
I had an experience in June of 2003 that changed the way I viewed death.
You know, I used to believe when it was over, it was over.
You know, worms crawl in, worms crawl out.
Then, I had a tragic wreck in our Explorer.
I flipped it, and I've got a picture of it here, and you know, you wouldn't make it out of that.
He goes on, here's where my beliefs changed.
I think in the universe that I was in when this happened, I actually did die.
But when I opened my eyes, I was looking at a lit dashboard.
I crawled out of the truck, talked to the police, was taken to a nearby hospital for observations, released, no ticket, no injuries.
Something seemed very odd about all of this.
Then I realized, I did die in that accident.
But for me, I continued in another universe, just as if time continued.
I apologize if this seems confusing, but what I mean is that I absolutely left behind a family in mourning.
But, from my perspective, nothing changed.
When I switched universes, I just picked up where I left off.
And now I believe that this is what happens to everyone when they die.
It is only from our perspective.
From theirs, something else happens and they have no idea, but they continue on as if nothing happened.
This would also explain ghosts.
We're catching, simply catching a glimpse of that alternate universe where our dead loved ones and others have moved and are living normal, everyday lives.
Would this mean we live forever?
I don't know.
But who says that when we jump from one universe to another that we must continue from the point of origin?
You may jump back to your infinite self and start from there with no memory beyond that age.
At any rate, I have a very disturbing feeling that in another universe, my children, my wife, are still mourning my death.
I wish I could console them.
I thought that was pretty doggone interesting.
Oh, there is one more thing I've got to get in.
Concerns and... What idiot?
You know, my state, Nevada, is a very, very popular destination for RVs.
RVs bring lots and lots of money into our state.
Now we've got Senate Bill 412, which has been introduced into the Nevada legislature.
Senate, actually.
To get this, stop overnight RV parking on any public lot in the state.
And it gives a place where you can view the bill.
The bill was introduced in the Committee on Government Affairs, and if passed, would prohibit RV parking on any kind of public parking lot anywhere in the state!
Here's a little bit of the text of the bill.
Quote, each board of county commissioners shall, by ordinance, prohibit an attended Attended, not unattended, but attended vehicle, recreational vehicle, motorhome, or travel trailer from parking overnight in a parking facility which is dedicated or intended for commercial use or for use by patrons of a shop, store, or any other business.
Parking facility means a parking deck, parking garage, parking structure, paved or unpaved parking lot that members of the public regularly enter.
Are reasonably likely to enter or are invited or permitted to enter as invitees or licensees.
The term does not include a recreational vehicle at a park, rather, as defined in NRS so-and-so.
Anyway, due to the way this is worded, it is likely these restrictions will apply to any publicly accessible parking lot.
That would include, for example, casinos, truck stops, dirt or gravel, boondock parking areas throughout the state.
What idiot thought this up?
Do you have any idea how much money it would cost the state of Nevada?
Now look, let's not, here in Nevada, begin to emulate California's idiocy, huh?
You can pass laws until the cows come home, I guess is the motto in Sacramento, but here in Nevada, I would not have thought such an idiotic, stupid idea would even be proposed, and I can't imagine it would be passed.
Certainly would cost a lot of dollars, and frankly, I doubt it would be particularly well-enforced, because most towns, cities, counties realize that an awful lot of tourist revenue comes from people who park their RVs, so I think it's a dumb idea.
East of the Rockies, you are on the air.
Hello?
Hello?
Hello, Art.
Yes, yes, hello.
This is Steve from Cleveland, listening to you on the big one, WTAM.
Hey, Steve.
I just wanted to thank you for, especially because I'm a Gulf War vet, all your programs with Joyce Riley.
I've been wrestling with the VA about Gulf War syndrome.
The cause that I got from them was cigarette smoke.
Cigarette smoke?
Cigarette smoke.
Well, that's as dangerous here as it is in Iraq.
Yeah, I guess it is.
But again, just wanted to thank you for all your years.
I'm a night worker, and a lot of us vets really appreciate your programs.
Well, thank you.
Thank you very much, Art.
You're very welcome.
That's it, huh?
Well, you're very welcome.
Cigarette smoke.
I've depleted uranium, I thought, perhaps, or something of that nature, but cigarette smoke.
West of the Rockies.
You're on the air.
Hello.
Hi, Art.
Hi.
This is Daniel calling from the socialist idiocy state formerly known as California.
Well, I meant no real insult.
Simply, you guys, you've got to pass an awful lot of laws.
I mean, laws about this, laws about that, and here we're doing something stupid on our own over here.
Okay, scientifically burrowing into the Earth's core is undoubtedly a cover story for a doomsday device similar to a cobalt missile pointed at the ionosphere, but in the opposite direction, because according to published reports, Insiders like former President George Herbert Walker Bush and others are aware that the Earth's core is inhabited by intra-terrestrial beings who are regularly visited by extraterrestrial spacecraft through two portals of entry.
A volcanic island on the North Pole, first discovered by Abel Byrd, and an underground cooperative base in Antarctica built by the Nazis.
Therefore, boring into the territory also known as Hell would mean war on Hell and Hell for us.
Could be bad.
I don't know about all you just said, but, well, of course, nor can I deny it, because we know so very little about what's really in the earth, right?
I heard all the stories about the Nazis and, you know, the whole, the North Pole and all the rest of it, and I have no idea whether that's myth or reality, but truth is, we certainly don't know very much about what we walk on, what's inside.
What really is way down there?
Is it what they think?
Is it what they imagine?
Or could there be a world?
Could there literally be a world beneath our feet?
First time caller line, you're on the air.
Hello.
I'm afraid we've got a bad connection, sir.
Oh, man.
That's a really bad connection.
Try redialing us, please.
Wildcard line, you're on the air.
Hello.
Hi.
I'm Pat calling from Minneapolis, 1500 AM KSTP.
Yes, sir.
How are you doing?
I'm doing all right.
Excellent.
This is the first time I've ever tried calling, really, and I got through.
I'm kind of amazed.
It's cool to talk to you, Mr. Bell.
Thank you.
I've been listening to you for quite a while.
I don't know.
I guess I've got a strong gift against drilling into the earth like that.
I mean, I don't know.
About, like, the plates and... You think something could conceivably go wrong?
Oh, definitely.
Yeah.
Yeah, I could... There was a movie where, um... Now, of course, you know, Hollywood, but... There was a movie, you know, where they'd set a bomb off on one of the coastlines and it sent the, uh... It sent one of the plates moving at a rapid speed and they had to detonate another bomb to... And that's what I was thinking of.
And, uh... One other thing I had was, um...
This, you know, this, um, about, uh, going to Mars to look for, uh, microscopic life, and, uh, that, uh, I don't know, it's just, I, personally, I think that's just a bad idea.
Another bad idea.
Well, uh, there are many who believe that, uh, bringing microscopic life back from Mars could conceivably be a poor idea.
That there could be some microorganism, and a microorganism, to be fair, is quite likely to exist on, on Mars.
That we would not be prepared for.
That our immune systems, for example, might never have seen, well, would never have seen, therefore would be unprepared to combat.
And, well, away you go.
Away we go.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hi.
Hello.
Hey, what's up?
You are up.
Turn your radio off, please.
Oh, I'm sorry.
That's quite all right.
I'll wait.
All right.
I got a story for you.
All right.
My friend, he said he was in his backyard.
And he was... The motion light kept going on and off.
And, uh... He saw something out in the back.
And he didn't know what it was.
He said it looked kind of like a deer, but kind of like an alien.
And all of a sudden, like, I thought he was crazy.
I didn't know what he was talking about.
And then a year later, we're out on his back porch with a bunch of buddies.
And the guy that was with us, his grandmother lived across the street.
And... Turn that down.
And, uh, the guy lived across, his grandma lived across the street.
And, uh, I'm choking here, I'm sorry.
Yeah, you're choking because someone turned the radio on.
I try to warn people, you know, it's going to make you sound like an idiot because you're going to hear your own voice.
That's what they're doing, basically.
Alright, keep that down.
No, turn it off all the way.
Tell them, turn it off.
Okay, all the way off.
Alright.
Alright.
And, uh, he said that his grandmother used to tell stories before This kid's house was there that people used to see centaurs in the woods.
I see that, and I hear the radio, and they're not going to cooperate with you.
I'm sorry.
Let that sort of serve as a lesson to all.
I know that your buddies or your friends would like to hear you on the radio, and that's a big deal.
Well, if they want to do that, they need to go to a completely different part of the house and listen.
It's got to be out of your earshot, because for obvious reasons, for broadcast, we delay everything by about six or seven seconds.
The time during which you have an opportunity to make a career decision, if something is said, and so everything you say comes out of the radio actually six or seven seconds later.
And if you have the radio turned up, you're going to hear that, and it is going to confuse you to the point that you're going to lose your train of thought completely, and you're not going to sound coherent.
And certainly you don't want that.
West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hello.
Hey, how you doing?
I'm doing fine.
Turn your radio off, please.
Oh, yes, sir.
You betcha.
I'm sorry, I wasn't prepared for you to jump on so quick.
Well, I don't screen call.
So anyway, what's up?
Well, you know, I think that digging in the middle of the Corps is a bad idea.
Another vote no, huh?
Yeah, well, you know, what if it is all molten lava because of the way the air and the atmosphere hits it?
It starts squirting out like a squirt gun, you know?
And all of a sudden, the air starts flying all over the place.
Or the crack gets bigger and they can't stop it.
It just starts cracking, you know what I mean?
Worse yet, sir, how about this?
What if it's pressurized in there?
And, you know, we've all blown up a balloon and then gone... See the balloon fly?
See, that could be bad.
Let's say goodbye to mankind then, huh?
Yeah, I think that's a bad idea, to be honest.
Curiosity once killed a cat, you know?
Uh, yes, and who knows what it might do to six billion humans.
Oh, man, buddy.
I mean, or cover the Earth with lava?
Nevertheless, I'm fascinated by what might be down there.
Could be some great things we find down there.
Maybe certain elements or minerals or things that are cures for things you never know.
You never know.
Maybe even, well, hell.
What if drilling down that deep actually opened a portal to hell?
What if all those voices recorded in Siberia suddenly were freed, had an escape route?
First-time caller line, you're on the air.
Hello.
Art?
Yes.
Hi.
This is calling from St.
Louis.
Yes, sir.
First-time caller, I was introduced to your Enlightening program by actually a television program, I'm sure you're aware, Peter Jennings.
Oh, yes.
On the UFO study.
And I just wanted to let you know how grateful I am for your broadcast.
I wanted to ask you, have you ever touched upon the subject of bovine bungal form encephalitis?
Yes.
You're commonly known as Mad Cow Disease.
I certainly have, and as a matter of fact, they've got a show, my friend Woodley Streber, I think coming up this next weekend, has a show which actually asks the question, is Alzheimer's actually Mad Cow Disease?
There's very little difference, you know, in the two, and I wonder if that could be true.
Colm Cullohar, I think, is going to be the guest, and He would seem to suggest that it could be that Alzheimer's is the same thing as Mad Cow.
Mad Cow is Alzheimer's.
Right.
It could be a variant.
And if I could share with you my concern, from what I understand, Mad Cow disease is caused by a brand new infectious agent called a prion.
Right.
Up until now, prions were never known to exist.
Consequently, there is no therapy for infection by prions.
And furthermore, the incubation period from the time of infection to the onset of disease, which is known to be 100% fatal, can be anywhere from 20 to 30 years.
That's right.
And what bothers me is that the federal government has not mandated to the producers of cattle that they stop feeding animal byproducts.
Well, I think we have in this country, or at least certain animal by-products.
It kind of makes you wonder about the burger joint you were at 30 years ago, though, huh?
Well, I mean, you know, the simple solution would be to put a ban on feeding animal by-products.
Right now, it's only on a voluntary basis, and it just, you know, we have no idea how many potential people are currently infected until years from now.
So, maybe we can start a little fire and get something done.
Well, the whole thing is kind of scary.
Right.
And it could be, and it could be that all of us, or virtually all of us, to some degree or another, if that would be true, could be infected.
And as I said, it sure does make you wonder about... I mean, I've always, I have loved hamburgers.
I have always been a hamburger guy.
Since I was a little kid, I have loved hamburgers and ate scads of them.
So I hate reading about this stuff, but you never know.
Wild Card Line, you're on the air.
Hello.
Yes, I was just looking at this gentleman that was talking about the mad cow disease.
That's right, yes.
And there is stuff called doxycycline.
That's the only thing that will pull this stuff out of your system.
It was made specifically for this, and they've known it all along and never told anybody.
And I know because we had it, we got checked, and we got rid of it.
You had it?
Wait a minute, let me reset this.
You know you had it?
How do you know you had it?
We got tested for it.
There's a test, what you call a PCR test.
And you go to your health department, your doctor, you get the PCR test done, they check it.
If you've got it, you take doxycycline for two weeks and it pulls it out of your system.
It's the only antibiotic that's made like this.
I didn't think it was even responsive to antibiotics.
Yes, it is.
This is the only one that will do it.
Huh.
It was made specifically to pull stuff out of your system.
Well, that's certainly news to me.
No, hon, it's been out for quite a while in Newswatch Magazine.
The church got the information out about this, and there's other... I've got all the information on it.
My dad was with the VA at the time they did this.
Do you think that Mad Cow and Alzheimer's are one and the same?
I'll tell you what it makes.
Well, I'd be the last to deny the possibility.
Thank you very much.
problem algae crop pick syndrome chronic disease leukemia and cancer
it does all of that well uh... i i i'd be the last to deny the possibility
thank you very much other many who believe that cancer may be virus-based
actually may turn out to you know we don't know what causes cancer
We don't know what causes cells to suddenly become dividing Start dividing in a in a very accelerated unnatural way.
We have no idea.
What does that we did?
We've we'd have it cured.
There are some who think it is virus based and it may turn out to be who knows Anyway That's what they're going to talk about on Dreamland.
I thought it was timely in view of that mention.
Alzheimer's.
Could it actually be mad cow disease?
All right, coming up in a few moments, the most loved, loved, and hated guest that ever appears on Coast to Coast AM, Major Ed Dames.
From the high desert, I'm Art Bell.
Well this is coast to coast AM.
I'm going to be playing a little bit of the game.
Be it sight, sound, smell or touch, there's something inside that we need so much.
The sight of a touch, or the scent of a sound, or the strength of an oak when it loops deep in the ground.
The wonder of flowers to be covered and then to burst up through tarmac to the sun again.
Or to fly to the sun without burning a wing?
To lie in a meadow and hear the grass sing?
To have all these things in our memories whole?
And they use them to count us to five Five, five passes all
Take this place, off the strip Just for me
I'm just a little bit wrong.
Wanna take a ride?
To talk with Art Bell, call the wildcard line at area code 775-727-1295.
The first-time caller line is area code 775-727-1222.
To talk with Art Bell, call the wildcard line at area code 775-727-1295.
The first time caller line is area code 775-727-1222.
To talk with Art Bell from east to the Rockies, call toll free 800-825-7275.
The most loved and hated guest on this program.
From west of the Rockies, call 800-618-8255.
International callers may reach Art by calling your in-country Sprint Access number, pressing
Option 5, and dialing toll-free, 800-893-0903.
From coast to coast, and worldwide on the internet, this is Coast to Coast AM with Art
Bell.
Absolutely the most loved and hated guest on this program.
I mean, people are absolutely passionate about Major Ed Dames, but even his most severe
critics listen to every single word he says.
He's a very controversial man, the world's foremost remote viewing teacher, Edward A. Dames, Major U.S.
Army Retired, is a decorated military intelligence officer, and an original member of the U.S.
Army Prototype Remote Viewing Training Program, and certainly he was He was not.
I have read his entire military record.
Other remote viewers have referred to Ed many times.
He served as the Training and Operations Officer for the Defense Intelligence Agency's Psychic Intelligence Collection Unit.
Currently serves as Executive Director for the Matrix Intelligence Agency, which is a private consulting group.
The technical consultant for the feature film Suspect Zero, a Tom Cruise, Paul Wagner production, Ed coached Sir Ben Kingsley, who played the role of an FBI remote viewing instructor in the movie as well.
Again, the most loved and hated guest we have on this program, Major Ed Dames.
You know what?
Just before we break, let me serve up the usual warning.
A lot of the material that you're about to hear is going to potentially be very disturbing.
And so rather than have you become disturbed, unable to sleep or have bad dreams, you should turn off the radio now.
Again a warning, children ought not be listening to this.
I would think that their parents should exercise parental control and take that radio away from them.
Even the parents, some of them, Ought not hear some of the material we're going to discuss.
He's controversial for a reason.
His nickname is Dr. Doom.
And that too is for a good reason.
extremely controversial and right here in a moment
ready something we're going to touch on with ed shortly is very
disturbing indeed You may recall last week, and or perhaps even this week, if you heard the pre-play, that is to say the show that ran before this one, I believe it was the EVP show, Electronic Voice Phenomena.
You know, voices from wherever.
Well, Ed is going to comment on the little child's voice, the origin of the child's voice, and on EVP itself.
So, in other words, he's done some sort of remote viewing on this subject.
I'm very much looking forward to that.
But first, there was a second Indonesian-area earthquake, a very, very large earthquake.
Fortunately, no tsunami associated with it.
When it occurred, I noticed the website at coast2coastam.com put up a headline talking about the quake and saying, Ed Dames hit question mark.
And indeed, Ed, on the last program predicted another really major quake in that area, albeit perhaps a couple thousand miles from where it actually happened.
But in magnitude and so forth, very, very close, Ed.
So you answer the question.
I mean, the headline was, Ed Dame's hit, question mark.
Was it an Ed Dame's hit?
Good evening, Art.
I think that it was a hit, and we're getting better.
It's been 21 years, and this skill and the science behind it is evolving.
So, uh, you're going to see me stick my neck out more and more, but I'm not really sticking my neck out.
We've actually discovered some ways of placing, uh, coordinates, Cartesian coordinates and dates on events.
In fact, I have another, uh, very, uh, uh, very serious, uh, event predicted.
And I have a map on your, uh, coast to coast website showing, uh, Mount Tarawera in the North Island in New Zealand.
Okay, I'm going to navigate to the website like about a billion other people right now.
I would say, no matter what, certainly your last prediction was close enough in most respects that I think I would certainly consider it a hit.
We knew it would be Indonesia, but getting the exact coordinates down, the latitude, as you see, the latitude is very precise.
Yes.
Okay, now that's not difficult for us to do and it does not take long.
Latitude lines don't move. I mean, as the Earth spins around, the latitude line stays the same.
So for remote viewers, it's pretty easy to sense north or south of a given line when we use our terrain index
reference system.
But longitude is more difficult and takes at least twice as much work.
It would take, for instance, about a day and a half, sometimes two days, to work out longitude.
Well, I recall when you made that prediction as well as a couple of others, you said that, that you're going to start really sticking your neck out in order to prove, prove to the world, that remote viewing is real.
Art, that's not the reason I'm doing it.
Well, that's what you said!
Yeah, but what I'm saying is that the reason that we picked that venue is to attempt to save lives, and we're getting better as we get better and more precise in these predictions, for instance.
Well, and also prove remote viewing is real.
I mean, that's got to be a major goal.
Come on.
I suppose that that is one.
Well, sure it is.
I mean, why else would you make a gigantic public prediction about an event as large as that earthquake or what you've got That we'll talk about here on the web page now.
I mean, save lives, yes, I'm sure, but also from your point of view, to validate remote viewing in the eyes of the public.
Actually, the gold project that we have, I mentioned that.
If you have a little bit more patience, we're bringing you some gold from a treasure trove.
That, I think, is more telling about the efficacy and the validity of remote viewing.
People really I know I perk up when I see gold.
So what do you mean you're bringing me gold?
So you're going to bring gold to me, large amounts of it, and just leave it for me, right?
No, no, no.
We're going to have a photo op with you, Art, and perhaps leave a little bit with you, but we're going to use it to good stead.
But Ann, I really need it all to examine it slowly over the years and determine the validity of your claim.
I'm sure that's the case, Art.
Maybe at the Bloom or so.
When, Ed, when will the gold show?
It should be no later than June.
We just came out of the field on a child search and we're back in the field next week on a child search.
Well, Ed, that's my birthday, June.
So it's a birthday present then.
What day, Art?
June 17th.
June 17th would be a wonderful day.
All right, my friend.
We'll shoot for June 17th for our gold delivery.
I'm serious.
That packs a lot more punch than to people.
No, it doesn't.
Look, hits are what pack punch.
When you get a hit, like with the earthquake, people take notice.
They start listening harder, whether they like you or not.
You know a lot of people don't like you, Ed.
Oh, yes.
Yes.
Why do you think that is?
I mean, it's not just simple dislike, Ed.
It's passionate, deep, throbbing dislike.
When I used to brief at the old executive office of the White House, I mentioned this before, the White House staffers were tired of hearing about Russian mega-tonnage and throw-weight in terms of nuclear weapons.
But when I briefed, I briefed on extremely exotic Futuristic weapons that were very painful, and would kill you, and not vaporize you, but kill you very slowly and extremely painfully.
And they did not like to hear that.
They loathed my appearance at briefings.
I think that it's... Well, I mean, this is like a briefing when you come on the program and you sort of lay out... Well, I mean, you have to admit, you do somewhat Well, you're like our national newscasts, really.
You tend to dwell on the negative.
But it's the nature, I guess, of remote viewing and event viewing.
And it's the nature of humanity to be interested in the negative stuff.
That's why the newscast put it on.
That's why people watch it.
Well, I'm very human as well.
I'm a very warm human being, too.
And I'm going to tell you some things tonight that are warm.
Warm, really?
Warm for Ed means, you know, only 5,000 die.
So for instance, with the next use of a nuclear weapon that I've been forecasting for years.
There's a nice warm area to begin.
Yes.
Right.
Now, on that, on something like where the vicissitudes of human minds are involved and varying conditions, it is easy to see the event for remote viewers.
In fact, any trained remote viewer can see this next use of a nuclear weapon and it won't take long for even an intermediate skilled viewer to determine where that is.
You've been saying this so long, Ed, when do you suppose, I know that's the trick question, but how close are we getting?
Yeah, that's what I'm getting into now.
Okay.
Now, geophysical events, earthquakes and the volcano that I'm forecasting for New Zealand, those kinds of things, humans aren't involved in that.
And apparently, we know this empirically as remote viewers, now that we can place dates closer to events, if not right on them, soon, it's far easier to do that for a geophysical, natural disaster or catastrophe than it is for a man-made catastrophe.
So in the case of this next use of a nuclear weapon on the Korean Peninsula, we may not be able to get that close, because humans are involved in the decision-making process, but we're going to give it a shot anyway.
In fact, we're working on that now.
As well as the beginning of the kill shot.
It's very serious.
I want to cover all of these.
Let's specifically cover the Mount Tarawa eruption.
What is it you see is going to happen?
Where and when?
Okay, now the reason that this one is easier to do Then, in this case, we're looking at a next major global catastrophe, as remote viewers, in terms of forecasting.
Okay.
In the case of the earthquake in March, which took over 1,000 lives, 1,000 souls, and that, by the way, is really our MO in this, that event was very difficult to pin down because we're looking at an underwater, undersea event.
We're actually sketching The shelves are moving.
Now, we have no way to know where we are.
We know that the event is an earthquake and shelves are moving.
But, when we pop up above the surface of the water, figuratively speaking, and we attempt to look for the nearest significant feature that we always do as remote viewers to get a fix on where we are globally, The area in Indonesia is so homogeneous, particularly where the earthquake occurred.
It's so homogeneous that everything looks the same.
So, even when we sketch the nearest unique features, it's very difficult to pinpoint where we are in Asia.
So we had to go with just the geofix techniques and the geofix positions.
In the case of the next event, which happens to be Not an earthquake, but a volcano.
An extremely powerful, dangerous eruption.
Very, very powerful.
An eruption that we've sketched that is potentially very deadly to the people who live there.
In fact, the last time this mountain erupted, the last time this area erupted, it took 150 people with it.
This time, the potential is much larger in terms of death.
But the volcano itself is so unique in terms of its geomorphology and the way it appears to the eye, that when I sketch it, it's very easy to go to all the volcanoes in New Zealand, because that's where our new techniques took us, and match up the sketch with that particular mountain.
Very easy indeed.
Alright, so let's nail it down.
Not everybody has the web.
You're predicting an eruption on...
In the month of November, highly likely, in the month of November 2005.
This year?
Yes, this year.
Mount Tarawa, is it?
It's Tarawa.
Tarawa.
And this, it'll be... It's on New Zealand's central north island.
Alright.
Last time it erupted in 1886, it killed 150 people.
And this time?
The potential is much larger.
That's why I'm going on the air with this.
Is there a way that you can compare the size of this predicted eruption with, say, Pinatubo?
Oh, I would say it is as large or more, it looks like it's more violent than Pinatubo.
Okay.
Very much more violent.
Alright, then that one is duly recorded.
You know, do you think that Word, I mean it's a long time now, relatively anyway, between now and November, that Word will make it to the area, that anybody will act on this prediction?
Yeah, I think a few people will take vacations that live on that plateau.
I really do.
I have friends in that area that live in that area as well too, so I'll make sure they're out of there.
But the Word will travel.
All right.
Your show makes it, you know, coast-to-coast.
It's heard in New Zealand.
It certainly is.
All right, so that's a big one, and it is recorded.
Now, regarding the next use of a nuke, for years you've been saying that on the Korean Peninsula, and you still think it will be on the Korean Peninsula.
You haven't changed that, have you?
No, not at all, because that, again, was not that difficult to establish.
At the time, though, next.
When's next?
We did not have the tools or the techniques or the evolved methods to really do anything in terms of next.
Okay, well, what do you know now?
Nothing yet.
Nothing yet, but by this time, I'd say a month from now, we'll know.
We'll be close.
But do you really want to know is the question.
For instance, they just dropped out of talks with the Chinese.
Do you really want to tell?
It's not so much whether I want to know.
I'm not that curious, for example, about my own future.
I wouldn't really want to know.
However, for the sake of your credibility, I would think that if you know, you should tell.
Yes.
I'll give it some thought, but we are going to tag a date onto that.
I'll tell you what, if it's this year, if it's before geophysical, if this man-made catastrophe happens to pop up on our timeline before the next geophysical catastrophe, I will call you personally and then we can talk about it.
All right.
Ed does do that, by the way, from time to time.
Personally with information Very interesting stuff, and I appreciate those calls head all right last week and for a long time now I've done something that some people scoff at and others are kind of with me, and they think the I This electronic voice phenomena business is really interesting.
I mean, you look at it, you can't find holes in it, you can't find any reason for it to be faked.
It doesn't sound fake, frankly.
It sounds like the real McCoy.
I've looked very hard at it, Ed, and that's why I've had guests again and again and again with this electronic voice phenomena, because By God, I think there really is something to it, and I know, I guess, you've looked at EVP both in a specific and general way for us tonight.
Is that correct?
I actually have some experience with it.
We integrated it into, actually, I integrated it tangentially into a very classified project during the Cold War in 1981.
I can't talk about the project, but my experience with it, I can talk about.
Why can't you talk about it?
It's classified.
It would embarrass the United States government.
Well, so who cares?
Well, because it's still classified, that project.
And even though it didn't go down and work, the project itself, the EVP part, did.
And that's what I wanted to talk about.
I'm wondering what interest would the U.S.
government have?
I can't even mention the topic to tell you the truth.
Even the topic.
Oh, really?
Yes.
Well, now that's going to have me thinking for a while.
What interest would the U.S.
government have in EVP?
That would be in getting the voices of those who have passed.
That's correct.
Wow!
That's just the fact they were interested.
Well, let me just drop a hint.
In a moment, we're going to talk about voices of those who have passed, but let's say that it were possible, wouldn't you want to To have a dialogue with, let's say, the former head of the KGB, Andropov?
Absolutely.
Yeah, I would too.
So, that's sort of a hint.
In other words, who would the government be interested in having a conversation with?
Well, I mean, he's not home anymore, so what the heck?
Um, alright Ed, hold on.
Uh, Major Ed Dames, um, Dr. Doom, his affectionate title, is my guest.
Let's see, who would the government most like to talk to?
Somebody who has died.
That's worth a little thought, isn't it?
And were they officially interested, according to Ed?
Yes!
Oh, this program is so interesting, isn't it?
EBP is a subject we're about to be talking about, electronic voice phenomena, the subject of last week's show that stirred so much controversy in the nighttime.
I'm Art Bell.
No I
I I
I It's 2 a.m.
and beer is gone.
It's 2 a.m.
I heard it all, I said, I want to know The stars still walk through my neck
It's time to take a chance Yeah, the storm moves, sirens in my head
As I'm silenced off circuits of death Strange and cold, my whole life spins into a frantic
And when I'm stepping into the twilight zone There is a human house, it is my kingdom
I'll be the skin, bone, thunder, moon and star And I'm the gold now that I've grown to gold
And when I'm stepping into the twilight zone There is a human house, it is my kingdom
We're gonna get through with the moon and stars Where do I go now that I've gone too far?
To talk with Art Bell, call the Wildcard line at area code The first time caller line is area code 775-727-1222.
To talk with Art Bell from east of the Rockies, call toll free at 800-825-5033.
From west of the Rockies, call 800-618-8255.
727-1222. To talk with Art Bell from east of the Rockies, call toll-free at 800-825-5033.
From west of the Rockies, call 800-618-8255. International callers may reach Art by calling
your in-country Sprint Access Number, pressing Option 5, and dialing toll-free, 800-893-0903.
Call 880-930-9903.
From coast to coast and worldwide on the internet, this is Coast to Coast AM with Art Bell.
It is, and you gotta really wonder in the private world of Major Ed Dames, when he predicts an earthquake's going to occur, a big one, And then, when that earthquake does occur, as happened just, what now, just weeks ago, when it really does occur, what do you think, in private, Major Ed Dames does?
Does he go, oh my god, all those people did die?
Or does he go, yes!
We may never know the answer to that one.
It's time.
It's time.
I really am pretty well convinced of the credibility of those who do EVP, of the EVP phenomena itself.
In fact, Halloween, I got hold of these incredible historical Spiracom tapes, the work that George Meeks was involved in, published the technical details of how to produce the tones That allegedly are used by people on the other side to modulate and therefore communicate in an ongoing, and that's what I played.
It was, I don't know, at least 40 minutes long, as I recall.
Hard to hear in some places, but in the end, if you digested and listened carefully, it would raise the hair on the back of your neck.
I guarantee it was an ongoing, real-time communication with the dead.
And it was incredible.
God, it was incredible to listen to.
And it's just sort of been the latest chapter in my interest in electronic voice phenomena.
And Ed's ready to comment on some of it tonight.
It says, EVP, RV findings on the origin of the child's voice recorded on last Saturday's show.
You may recall last Saturday we had a child's voice, which seemed to be the voice of a child drowning.
Ed says, warning, extremely disturbing.
Comments on the phenomena itself as well.
So, Ed, apparently that was interesting enough to launch you into an investigation of EVP or what?
It was haunting.
Yeah, it was haunting, for sure.
Even for someone like myself who's familiar with EVP and a lot of other Phenomenological things.
But this one was haunting, and it caught me by surprise.
Also, I'm going to bring up the fact that the sound of water is not the voice of the dead.
And we're going to talk about that in a moment, too.
But I want to hark back, if I may, to my own experience with EVP in 1981, when it was tangentially part of this classified project.
I was listening to a white noise generator, and I was getting pretty bored and starting to fall asleep, and the first time I heard a voice, I almost jumped out of my skin.
This was the first time ever.
I just came right out of my skin.
This was while you were in the military?
Oh yeah, yeah.
I was Mr. Enigma, don't forget, in the Army, and then later for Office of Secretary of Defense.
So I wore a very strange hat in the government.
White noise, folks, is very interesting.
White noise is just... Here, I think that I can cause some... That's white noise, folks.
That's white noise.
And it's sort of a combination of all noises.
So it would be a particularly interesting vehicle to produce Frankly, to allow some entity or whatever it is, and I'm sure Ed's about to talk to that, to take portions of it and modulate it and create what sounds like a voice.
Yes?
Pretty close.
Yeah, pretty close.
Actually, I was using a detuned radio.
It's pretty basic.
Okay.
Tuned to just nothing.
And I was right on the verge of wakefulness and sleep, because that white noise is pretty boring.
Can you recall, were they distinct words?
But when I heard something that sounded like a voice, I mean, the air in my back just stood
right up.
So I thought, okay, it's just because I was falling asleep and imagination, and then I
heard it again.
And then I hit the switch on that thing and turned that radio off.
Can you recall, were they distinct words?
Did you hear it actually say anything?
I can't remember, to be honest with you.
At that time, my subsequent work with it, yes, there were distinct voices.
Three separate voices.
Do you ever recall actually speaking a word that you remember?
No, I don't.
No, I don't.
I was so nonplussed by the experience that I wanted to forget it really quickly.
It spooked me.
It spooked me bad.
Even though I was using it, employing it in this operation, my attempt there was to validate, establish the legitimacy of the phenomenon so that we could use it to support this operation.
Now, at that point, I was a little bit questioning whether or not I should have done that.
But anyway, that was my entree into the field.
Now, there's no microphone that's involved here.
The microphones that researchers use are just so I think the public can hear, and so other researchers can hear what's going on in the local environment.
But all you need is an RF oscillator and some audio output.
It could be a tape recorder, it could be... Yeah, I sure might buy that, sure.
Yeah.
So, because the dead, if it's the dead, and usually it is, they don't have a mouth, right?
So they can't use a mouth.
So it's not the dead's voice, it's not a sonic phenomenon, it's electromagnetic in nature.
Very similar to ghosts and apparitions.
When an apparition passes through you, through your body, when a ghost passes through you, you feel your body react.
Because you have an electromagnetic field, charged field, going through your body.
In a very similar fashion, these EVPs are There's sort of vestigial EM patterns that are left behind, but they're not living, and that's an important point.
Okay, but I'm not sure that it's an absolute point, because how do you account for the many times where absolute, or the SPIRICOM experiments, or the many times where the information is quite contemporary and reactive, or obviously reactive, to what the experimenter is saying?
I can't.
So I want to throw a hypothesis, because that's what it was, a postulate actually, out the window.
And I'm going to do that forever because of what we found out using remote viewing to research the origin of this child's voice.
It changed everything I thought about.
Oh, so in other words, after last week's program, I admit, what was played was extremely, extremely disturbing.
I got more emails on it, Ed, you just wouldn't believe.
It's going to get more disturbing in a moment.
It's going to get more disturbing in a moment.
Let me talk about the minor thing first.
That's the sound of the water.
Now, that's not a voice.
Even if we're talking about a voice or a disincarnate entity, That water is not a living person, or a dead person.
So how does that get electromagnetically reproduced?
What modulates that?
I have no idea.
Neither do I. A concept?
An idea?
A memory?
I don't know, Ed.
I think a memory is the closest that we've come to in order to establish some element in terms of modeling the mechanics and the dynamics of this.
But what I'm about to say It leads me to think that there's no way that the best of my professionals and I can model this because of what we found out in terms of the child's voice.
Alright, might as well do it.
What did you find out?
Brendan Cook and Barbara McBeath were in this mental hospital recording.
Yes.
And even they admit it's the strangest thing they've ever recorded, right?
Right.
Here's this child, here's the sound of apparently, what sound, of course appearances can be deceiving, but it sounds like a child's voice, a young child can be heard saying, help me, I can't breathe, I couldn't breathe, and then you hear the rest of the recording, which I'm sure many of your listeners listen to.
Oh yes.
Pretty captivating.
The child, this event, and this is where people need to leave the room if they're not ready for it.
This is not a child.
It's a fetus being aborted.
Oh my God.
Yeah.
Yeah, I'm not going to go into the details about the abortion itself, the barbaric way in which it was handled.
Obviously, you know, we've got water involved after the fetus was removed from the mother.
Oh God.
But how in the world, I mean, in terms of eschatology, eschatology deals with, it's a branch of theology that deals with death and the afterlife and finality.
How do you explain how A fetus, through time, ideationally, can come up and somehow impart the ideas and the English words, I can't breathe, help me, I couldn't breathe, electromagnetically onto something.
Do you have any ideas?
No, I don't.
I sure don't either.
I'm pretty much familiar with lots of aspects of the phenomenological world
and have researched a lot of it but this one art it it it throws a monkey wrench in everything all the
comfort level that i ever had about uh...
reality the whole thing is thrown a monkey wrench into a lot of
things i believe too and
you know i didn't really want to
leave the whole evp thing but i'm afraid that i do and i I've looked for holes in it.
I've looked for ulterior motives.
I've looked carefully at the Spiricom stuff.
I don't know if you've had an opportunity to do that.
Yes, I did.
Way back when, when I was investigating this.
This is a horse of a different color.
How in the world, when remote viewing is one of the key points here, one of the real powerful techniques and methods to establish connectivity.
How do you reconcile the idea of a fetus being able to talk?
I don't.
Being able to even communicate electromagnetically using English words that only a living child could know or an adult.
I can't do that.
I don't know what to do with that.
Could this have been somehow projected by any of the other participants in the incident?
The other participants we sketched.
We sketched a man, evidently a doctor, we sketched a mother, we sketched an assistant, and the rest I'm not going to go into because it was very gruesome.
Very gruesome.
It was very disturbing.
Well, now, that just made that all the more disturbing.
God, that's awful.
Alright, so you looked...
More generally, at the whole phenomena of these voices manifesting in audio, manifesting in white noise, manifesting in the carefully planned George Meeks experiments, or just what my friends up in Utah get.
What is it, Ed, that we're hearing?
I mean, are we... I think we're hearing... I think what is that you've got, there's something behind...
First of all, we've got an electromagnetic field.
Second of all, we've got some aspect of mind behind the electromagnetic field in order to modulate it, okay?
Where is the mind, though?
Where is the information stored?
How is it transmitted?
What's the connection between the recorder and the sender, if any?
And these are really...
Hey Ed, here's something that you might want to look at.
using remote feeling to establish connectivity because we may be dealing with something like
the afterlife or the global mind.
And we can't get into the operating system because it's what we use to do our work.
Hey Ed, here's something that you might wanna look at.
I've got an eight page article here.
And the title of the article is by Christian Gravel and it's called,
Do Man-Made Electromagnetic Fields Influence Human Consciousness?
And it's a totally fascinating article.
And in some way, certainly EMF fields probably do or could conceivably influence consciousness
or the other way around.
Yeah, I was involved in the classified side of that for many, many years.
That's one of the hats I wore in terms of science and technology.
Intelligence officer, NEMR, it's called Non-Ionizing Electromagnetic Radiation.
How do you weaponize that?
Well, we reached the point where we could, if you were, At a good distance away we could point a machine at you and modulate it the right way and on off control have you drop a cup of coffee and not know what happened to you.
Now this is non-ionizing radiation, which means that the RF is so low that it doesn't
heat up water more than 0.1 degrees, and I won't go into all the technical stuff, but
it's not ionizing.
It doesn't strip electrons away from the nuclei of atoms.
It isn't powerful, but it's about as powerful as your cell phone.
And what I'm saying is that if you modulate the RF the right way, just the right way,
so that it's in sync with your nervous system, and I won't go into any technical details,
out you go.
Now you have to turn this back off, you have to turn this off if you use it against a human
being because a human won't be able to breathe.
Their nervous system won't work.
So if you're pointing a weapon, let's say, a hypothetical weapon at someone, you can't keep it on without killing them, because you're scrambling their nervous system.
So it's influencing their nervous system.
What about the effect on the user of the device?
They have to be shielded, just like a high-power microwave device, or just regular microwave devices.
You have to be fairly shielded.
You have to have a copper RF suit, or behind a shield.
It's not as powerful as x-rays, but you still have to be shielded.
Or you will undergo the effects themselves.
So anyway, you think there could be a connection between consciousness, you know, the Princeton experiments, for example, and Electromagnetic radiation, and that they could have an effect on each other?
I'll tell you what we found in our work, because my sister science, remote-viewing sister science, is psychokinesis, telekinesis.
What we found is that the way that, for instance, the way that the audience, under my direction, a year or so ago, influenced one of the clocks in your office, right there.
You remember that, I'm sure.
Yes.
It's more the magnetic field in sync with the mind than it is the electronic vector.
It's more the magnetic vector than the electrical vector in the electromagnetic wave that's being affected, and it's also gravity.
So, when I say gravity in terms of its of its linkage with the magnetic field,
it's the gravity part that actually causes things to move or lift or slow down, as in the case of your clock.
So mind is definitely somehow, it isn't that,
it is definitely an electromagnetic factor component, or it's the field itself that's being influenced
and or influencing.
But this doesn't explain the faster than light, no,
speed at which remote viewing works.
So it's something behind the idea of the electromagnetic field.
And we haven't gotten to the point where we understand what it is yet.
One noteworthy thing I might point out, however, in the case of the Princeton experiment, what we did was using them as a jump-off point.
There is a particular metal That very interestingly is far more susceptible to psychokinetic effects than other metals.
And that was very strange.
So maybe the electronic structure of that has something to do with, maybe by studying that we can gain some more insight.
Well, all of this probably is going to end up at the quantum level somehow or another.
It's almost the only way you can explain the faster than light That's sort of a quantum effect, isn't it, Ed?
The effects are very similar.
Whether or not the quantum theory is explaining what's going on, I do not know.
of a a quantum effect isn't it and uh...
the effects are very similar whether or not were the
uh... contrary to explaining what's going on i do not know i i mean
quantum theory is thrown around pretty loosely these days
well it is but i i mean two molecules doing the same thing at the same time no
matter how far separated they are Well, what we found out is that in terms of using human DNA, remember, a long years ago, I think it was like seven years ago on your show, I talked about CIA experiments trying to develop a size switch where an agent would get caught with, let's say, a radio transmitter in the heel of their boot or something like that, or in their watch.
Yes.
It's a pretty damning thing.
So why not use your mind to flip a switch somewhere and communicate using your mind?
Absolutely.
Nothing to find in the boot.
All right, hold on, Ed.
We're at the top of yet another hour.
It's amazing how time flies.
Major Ed Dames, otherwise affectionately known as Dr. Doom, is my guest.
It's already quite a night.
So that was an abortion.
My God.
That makes it all that much worse.
From the Hot Desert, I'm Art Bell.
♪♪♪ ♪♪♪
♪♪♪ I
And I will never be set free As long as I'm a ghost you can't see If I could read your mind, love What a tale your thoughts could tell Just like a paperback novel The kind the drugstore sells When you reach the park Where the heartaches come, the hero would be me.
Hero of the day.
To talk with Art Bell, call the wildcard line at area code 775-727-1295.
The first time caller line is area code 775-727-1222.
To talk with Art Bell from east of the Rockies, call toll free at 800-825-5033.
line is area code 775-727-1222. To talk with Art Bell from east of the Rockies, call toll-free
at 800-825-5033. From west of the Rockies, call Art at 800-618-8255.
International callers may reach Art Bell by calling your in-country Sprint Access
number, pressing Option 5, and dialing toll-free 800-893-0903. From coast to coast and
worldwide on the Internet, call Art Bell. This is Coast to Coast AM with Art Bell. I wonder
how many of you out there are Oh
I have wondered about what comes next.
In other words, is it an eternal blankness?
You would just never know you had been or have any awareness of anything ever again?
Dead and gone?
Or is there something really on the other side?
Is there some sort of ghostly existence?
Is there an afterlife?
Well, I suppose all of these really are quite good questions from H. Red James.
He's looked at EVP.
and that sure is directly connected, I think it's directly connected
to the answer to that question.
Well that's actually a superb question.
This life After death, or absolute zero, what comes after life?
In a way, is it directly related to looking at EVP and finding what you find in EVP?
Are we answering these questions as we look at this, Ed, or not?
I know there's some type of a relationship, but I don't know what type.
I think the field of angelology is probably more apropos to the study of angels.
Because they're there at the moment of death, and then this soul or light is gone, as well as the angels.
But what's left behind many times is this electromagnetic mind pattern.
It flops off, you know, like the shell of a caterpillar.
When it transitions, it leaves the cocoon behind.
Well, the cocoon is like this electromagnetic entity that thinks it's alive.
That's why many people who think that they're channeling spirits or dead, they're
channeling these residual energies.
And you know, I noticed that you have Dr. Raymond Moody on tomorrow night.
That is correct.
He is in a much better position, I think, Art, than I, to address these questions.
He had a wealth of experience in these areas, and I do not.
Well, right, except that you looked at EVP.
So I wondered if what you saw with EVP, you know, added up to evidence to you.
Or what does it add up to, if not...
It supports the idea that mind sloughs off, and that because you need...
Mind is like an electromagnetic pattern.
that hangs around down here on Terra Firma while the light is gone.
These entities, they have no light.
They have no soul.
And if you equate soul and light with life, they're not alive.
They may have some type of electromagnetic form or pattern that in many times is visible.
Okay, again, again, Ed, the only thing that flies in the face of that for me is the Meeks' work, for example,
where without question, if you buy what you were hearing, that was an ongoing, contemporary, current, responsive.
In fact, the man speaking from the other side made corrections in electronic circuitry so his voice could be
heard more clearly.
But so are the voices of things that are being channeled.
Romper or others like that.
But that's a contemporary consciousness, Ed.
Let me give you an example.
I mentioned this once before about four years ago to you.
Think about this.
If while you were asleep I sedated you, then I took, let's say, a microwave generator or any other Very, very small frequency device and I shined it through your head and I copied every single synopsis and neuronal connection.
I made a copy of that and I took it away.
You would never know.
Let's say I put that in another biological brain and I give it some glucose and I shoot it with a jolt of electricity and this bionic thing wakes up.
It has no idea that it's not you, the original copy.
It doesn't know it's a copy.
And yet it is.
Now, is that life?
It can communicate with everything.
You can even teach it.
But it doesn't know anything past the point.
Is that life?
If it's consciousness, then I'm not sure how else is it life.
But what it is, it's some type of a copy.
And it doesn't have a soul.
So I agree with you.
There's something there that you can interact with, just like you can interact with a machine, a computer, or a cyborg.
But at what point do we stop calling something life, or do we call it life?
When is it not an apple and an orange?
Well, I don't know.
When it has the ability, though, to interact to the degree of actually correcting circuitry to help the communication itself, I don't know, Ed, that seems... Well, we can write software to do that, medical or otherwise.
We can write medical software to correct a physician as he's cutting on someone.
Do you call that alive?
It's an electromagnetic pattern, and when you pull the plug from that, it's got to get energy somewhere.
Where is it getting its energy from?
Where's the sink?
Is it just the electric-magnetic field in general, or is there another field, a mind field or something else?
I think Dean Radin made an understatement.
Dr. Dean Radin, when he wrote his book, The Conscious Universe, I think there's more to that than even he thought about when he wrote the book.
That could be.
I mean, in a way, Art, if I sound confused, I am.
Well, so am I. I mean, to me, that's a personality.
What I heard coming across, if you listen very carefully, and so many did, I got so many emails about that broadcast, it was conscious, it was considering, it had personality, it had emotion, it had Everything that we connect with being human and being alive in it, if you listened.
I mean, it was all there, Ed.
You're talking about the Spiricom?
Yes, sir.
Even though it wasn't interactive communication, I felt the same way about the child's voice.
Oh, I see.
Even though it wasn't the Spiricom, where you have interactive communication and dialogue going on, which wasn't the case with the child's voice, which was totally spontaneous and apparently random, I felt you know i felt objectively
that sounded like a living point living entity it sure did
so you know what we know
uh... that there's a whole lot of things out there in the universe i have to
allow for and i think it's like the movie solaris where you just accept
you you are saying tonight the sky is falling or at least part of it
and uh... this guy's going around november or december The beginning of the end, you write.
What in the world do you mean by that?
What I mean is that one of the key reasons that I'm building up a track record on these catastrophes, these global catastrophes, is because I want people to realize that the end really is near in terms of life on Earth as we know it.
And it's right around the corner.
So when I talk about the kill shot, and when I talk about solar flares and things like that, I'm not kidding.
It really is close.
And that's, ergo, the desire to build up a track record.
All right.
November, December of 2005, what?
What I'm saying is that when you start seeing these meteor showers, especially the one that brings the space shuttle down, that's what's next.
It's a very serious Uh, sequence of events that will kill a lot of people.
Now, why don't you go over that briefly again.
You have said that when something, a meteor shower or something, forces the space shuttle down.
Now, the space shuttle has a life of about five years.
After that, it's going to be replaced by new toys, new technologies.
And the first one's up in a few months, maybe four or five months from now at the most, if there's no more delays.
So we got this window with a maximum of five years where, where what What professional remote viewers are saying is that just prior to this beginning sequence of these very serious solar flares, these killer flares, you're going to see the space shuttle forced down by a meteor shower.
All right.
You know, after you said that, I thought, Ed, well, okay, if the space shuttle was forced down because of the intensity of a meteor shower or something like it, then what would happen to the International Space Station?
The same thing.
It will come down not under control, as well as many, many other satellites.
What I'm saying is that we are looking at the beginning of the end of this particular cycle.
This age is about to end, and we just happen to be alive during, I've been saying this for years, of course.
I'm well aware of that, so there'll be some very large event of this sort with many, many meteors.
What, entering the atmosphere?
Yeah, actually coming down to the deck, some of them.
But more seriously is that there's some type of an electromagnetic linkage between the sun and the earth that's created, and I don't understand it physically, and I'm not a geophysicist.
And this may be something that's unprecedented as well.
But that particular event, those series of events, allows what would normally be An M-class flare, or something like that, or a low-intensity X-class flare, to penetrate Earth's atmosphere and heat it up greatly.
But the thing, again, to watch for is, that's very specific, the space shuttle being forced down.
When you see that happen, you know that then events are going to unfold very quickly.
Very quickly, yes.
Very quickly, indeed.
As I will mean, in terms of survival, is make sure you're in an area There's a lot of fresh water, or at least glaciers, that will melt fast.
Not too fast, but there.
And you're going to have to have protection that will be underground during these periods of these very serious flares, because some parts of the Earth will be like a rotisserie.
What about... I mean, you have chosen your little paradise there in Hawaii.
I'm moving.
Oh?
I'm moving.
You're moving?
Yeah, I have a lot of travel to do.
I'm traveling too much.
I'll be in Japan next month and right around to the Ukraine.
I've got some things to do and places to go before this stuff hits the fan.
I'll probably end up more in the Northern Belts than in Polynesia.
So, you're out of Polynesia for a very specific reason.
Business-wise and operationally and survival-wise, Yeah, in that order.
What do you expect to befall the area where you now live?
I haven't checked it out.
All I've done is use my own skills and technique to look at where I should go.
Okay, when you say, again, let's define the sky as falling, is the sky, November, December, is that when you're suggesting the shuttle will be forced down or likely may be forced down?
I'm not sure.
We have an initial reading of December, but I have to do more work on that.
It's getting close, though, and I'll have more information for you the next time I talk to you.
Again, it's better to build up a track record.
My intent, actually, is to save some lives on this, and that's what the track record's for, to get people ready.
Yes, I guess so.
So then once the events begin, your reporting would be very rapid about what to expect next and how soon and all the rest of it.
The timelines would tighten up?
Yes, they would tighten up indeed.
We're talking about the loss of a lot of people, a lot of people on this planet for reasons that I've outlined on your show and in the Killshot video.
By the way, speaking of videos, the Suspect Zero DVD, the movie that I was in?
Yes.
That is being released Tuesday, so I'm sending you a copy, I promise you.
I very much appreciate that.
Thank you, Kingsley, for doing his thing.
I have a cameo role in that movie.
Right, I haven't had an opportunity to see it, but I'm looking very much forward to it, so please do send that.
I'll do that too.
Do you have a copy of my Learn RV DVDs?
I believe I do.
Okay, you might want to have Ramona or somebody just peruse those and maybe give it a shot.
And how many people, you know me, I've said it to you a lot of times, I kind of would not want to, for example, review my own future.
I don't want to know when I'm going to pop off planet Earth.
I don't want to know that stuff.
How many people do you meet don't want to know?
I'd say most everybody.
Really?
Yeah, most everybody except very, very confident people.
For instance, I have a business partner and extremely good remote viewer, Brent Miller.
He has no problem remote viewing his death.
I have a problem remote viewing mine, but he's one individual who has no problem whatsoever.
He's very confident about life and death.
He's an exception.
Could a person, this is a key question of course, remote view the manner of their own death and if it amounted to something other than, oh for example, a fatal disease, if it amounted to walking in front of a truck or being in an airplane crash or something that could be prevented by taking an action, can you change?
Yes you can, because as an individual you can do that.
A larger event like, for instance, the Korean Peninsula event and the nuclear weapon use there is a fait accompli, but individuals can choose not to participate in those events just as they can choose to avoid kill shot scenarios and to not be in the wrong place at the wrong time.
Those kinds of things.
As an individual.
But the collective, as an event, the collective is a done deal.
That's why I think prophets of old are able to see so far over the horizon.
So the larger events really can't be stopped, but individual, smaller events can be?
Individual, yes.
You can avoid, you can zig when you should not have zagged.
So the implication of that is that we're not all puppets on a string with a preordained life that we act out like little actors and actresses, right?
We have a pretty tight box, but we do have a yes-no control button.
And at any given time, we can go left or right within a certain narrow range, obviously, of performance and behavior.
But yes, we have choices.
And the problem is, we don't have awareness.
Our awareness isn't as great.
That's why I love my job, remote viewing.
Even though you may not act on the information, you have a whole lot more awareness of what's going down than you would without this, because these tools get around the act of imagination, the egoic mind, the thinking process.
It's very much cut and dry, and you may not like the answers and the information, because that's what remote viewing is, the information collection skill.
You may not like it, but it's there in your face, and you can choose on whether to act on it or not.
Have you ever acted on viewing that you have done of your own rather immediate future?
I'm not talking now about your death, but just something in the next few years, for example.
I've acted on medical things.
A very common thing in our work is to look at our health trajectory, a person's health at any given time.
what unconscious does by when you work a remote viewing session
vis-a-vis your health trajectory, it shows you where a problem may be or if you need to do something
to ameliorate a condition, point in priority order.
If you work say five sessions, it will give you the most important thing first
and yes I've acted on that. These things that you bring to us like
the prediction for the volcano that's on the website right now.
Was that done by you alone Ed or is this sort of a science field delivered effort of a team?
That was done by me alone.
My team is too busy.
Right now, they're working on another missing child case and on a gold case.
And let me check my operations sheet right here and see if they're working on anything else.
Let's see.
and we've got uh...
we've got a project in japan we have one more we have a serial killer on the loose and
edmonton canada that they're they're tied up on that my projects are
like uh... the catastrophe predictions and contact which is my capstone career
project i know i know he t contact is what you're talking about and we're
going to touch on that i think you know
in a moment another thing that i want i'd like to ask you about ed uh... to
either do if you have not yet done or to discuss what you know about
The Inner Earth.
We're talking about that in the first hour.
Hold tight, we're here at the bottom of the hour.
I really do want to know what's down there in the middle.
Don't you?
Now it begins Now that you're gone
Needles and pins What had you done?
Watching that clock Till you return
Hiding that torch and watching you burn
Now it begins day after day
This is my life ticking away
waiting to hear footsteps that say
my young heart fell apart and them smoking yellow grass fires
start to burn And the warnings on them beer cans gonna be buried in them landfills.
No deposit, no sad songs, and no return.
Yeah, it's only gonna take about a minute or so, till the factories blot the sun out, and you're gonna have to turn your lights on just to see.
And them lights are gonna be neon, saying, Fly our jets to paradise,
Or the whole damn world is gonna be made of styrene.
So listen well, my brothers, When you hear the night wind sigh,
And you see the wabus flying through the grey polluted sky, There won't be no country music,
There won't be no rock and roll, Cause when they take away our country,
They'll take away our soul.
To talk with Art Bell, call the wildcard line at area code 7.
The first time caller line is area code 775-727-1222.
To talk with Art Bell from east of the Rockies, call toll free at 800-825-5033.
line is area code 775-727-1222. To talk with Art Bell from east of the Rockies, call toll-free
at 800-825-5033. From west of the Rockies, call 800-618-8255.
International callers may reach Art by calling your in-country Sprint Access number,
pressing Option 5, and dialing toll-free 800-893-0903.
Good morning, everybody.
Major Ed Daines, affectionately known as Dr. Doom, is my guest.
And the message this morning is kind of doomish.
The sky is falling.
Part of it around November or December of 2005.
Watch those shuttles carefully.
I know this is a shot in the dark, quite literally, pun intended I suppose, about the inner earth,
but I recall Ed once saying that there were some, well perhaps machines that were coming
to life under the surface of Mars and I've long, very long been fascinated as you know
with the inner earth and tonight we had a story.
Incidentally, I depend on all of you for these weird and unusual stories, and that's where I get them.
You send them to me.
So if you run into a story, the magnitude of the one I had tonight, for example, of the drilling and then the plan to go to the very center of the earth, a real plan to do that, send them to me.
Artbell at AOL.com or Artbell at Minespring.com, but it occurred to me that either as a future project or one perhaps That Ed has already, I don't know, researched at some point in the past.
We're all curious about what's inside the Earth, Ed.
Have you ever looked?
Only in terms of extraterrestrial involvement.
That's it.
Nothing else.
With regard to Mars or Earth?
Both.
And what can you tell me about ET involvement with regard to Earth?
There is extraterrestrial intelligence, there are, let's call them bases, I hate to use the mundane word, but there are operation centers in seamounts, deep in seamounts, totally unaccessible to any human, and things come and go from those seamounts.
Things come and go?
Yeah, things, actual machines.
There have been all kinds of reports of UFOs disappearing into the ocean or rising out of it.
I've heard stories from people at sea, you know, seamen, Navy guys.
They will tell in hushed tones these stories of things they have seen either come or go from the sea.
Yeah, even the military team members, way back when I was operations officer, I would task viewers and take a look at myself at at some of these comings and goings and the actual stopping
points are in seamounts, very, very deep in the earth.
So because there's no access, that is not one of the things I chose to use in terms
of contact.
I used a different tact.
Oh?
Yeah.
I mean, there's no access there.
You can describe it, but I want the real thing.
All right.
It's something called Vanguard ET Contact Attempt, and that's coming, what, in August in North America?
It is.
In fact, if that's successful, and there's every reason to believe that it should be after doing this for 20 years.
If that's successful, I'm going to bring back a very prominent person to do the filming, and then I'm going to invite you to be there as a witness.
What exactly is involved?
Watching.
Just watching, that's all.
They put on the show and interact, and you watch.
It's a wild card.
We're not sure what's going to go down, but we are sure that the location is correct and with the three at the genesis of this was
uh... a lot of work looking at
the incident that happened in september september sixteenth in nineteen ninety
four the one in john mac the late john mac uh... wrote about
up the uh... children schoolchildren yes lol absolutely yes i in terms of chain of custody to know what
agency we were dealing with a used to turn agency loosely a lot of your listeners and i hear that term and and and
they're going to think what you and i both know they're going to think
By agency, I mean extraterrestrial or non-human agency, or interdimensional agency.
Whoever orchestrated or staged that particular appearance at the Ariel School outside of Harare, Zimbabwe, whoever did that, That's what we locked on to find out where we could contact that agency.
Where using a higher intelligence, in this case remote viewing, could link up with another higher intelligence.
And we found two locations on the planet Earth, and one of them is in North America.
Not too far from where you live, but far enough where you'd have to get a long drive or get on a plane.
But I'll take care of that for you.
So you're saying there's going to be an incident or something that can be viewed that would be... How much of an incident are we talking about?
Are we talking about sightings of a vehicle?
Are we talking about a landing or an actual E.T.
presence?
Well, the sightings idea, I used to lead scientific teams in the Southwest, particularly in New Mexico.
And we've got that.
We've got that down.
We've got the photographs.
We've got all the measurements in terms of artifacts of, let's say, propulsion.
We've done all those studies, and we've gotten flybys.
Actual flybys.
But we're after the same thing, minimally.
Or something unknown.
Minimally, what those children had.
And that is a CE-3.
We're talking about a face-to-face coffee clash, and nothing less.
Now what will actually happen, we don't know.
But the area is just brilliant in terms of their selection of where we should go.
It is a brilliant, brilliant selection.
Do you want to say where?
No, I cannot.
At this juncture, perhaps on another show.
I'll tell you privately, but I don't...
I don't want to broadcast that.
The last time I talked about the hot zone in America, that zone which was on a national park got overrun with joy seekers.
Oh, did it really?
Yes, it did.
I was not aware of that, Ed.
The National Park Service was not really happy with me.
I don't remember the, what was the prediction or whatever associated with that?
What did you say?
Well, I said that for at least four years, all of our recordings, and I led some pretty prominent scientists to this area until the phenomenon petered out.
For instance, There's a guest that's going to be on Coast to Coast next weekend.
He was one of the prominent scientists, but I won't mention his name.
About four years in Chaco Canyon, New Mexico, which is the center of activity for, I mean, it's a total hot zone.
We have all these measurements and great, great shots and flybys and all kinds of experiences.
But then the phenomenon petered out and it moved to another area.
It being a lot of flybys.
Do you have any idea, Ed, why we have these so-called hot zones?
Why we have areas where things tend to occur for a while with great frequency and then suddenly, as you point out, shift?
Yes.
Yes, we do.
In fact, those studies go back to the military team when we're looking at this on behalf of NRO.
Uh, and the, uh, and NORAD.
NORAD was interested in these fast walkers.
That was the term then, and so was the NRO, the CIA's, uh, you know, satellite.
Explaining to people who don't know fast walkers.
A fast walker was the term, for instance, if you were in the past to run a Freedom of Information Act request against UFOs.
You wouldn't get much, because that was not the word that we used inside the fence.
We used fast walkers, which was a term that was generated at NORAD when they had something that, oh my god, let's push the button and go up to DEFCON 1.
They had to be able to differentiate between these UFOs.
Okay, again though, Ed, fast walkers were things that were traversing either the atmosphere or just outside it at?
Very fast speeds.
Like 25,000 miles an hour, just to throw out a figure.
I've heard of these.
25 to 31.
Thousand miles per hour.
Right, right.
But anyway, so they were called fast walkers and a few other names, too.
So because people didn't know that name, then the government was not deceiving anybody.
It just said, oh, here's what we have on UFOs.
So there should be people out there, or have they already done it, submitting Freedom of Information Requests for specific references to fast walkers?
Well, they did it because I mentioned it six years ago on your show.
But there's other names, too, that are more contemporary that are still classified.
And these Freedom of Information Requests came back with positive results for so-called fast walkers?
They came out with a lot of blacked-out I'm looking closely at the real thing.
But anyway, the government doesn't know what these are.
But we had to try, the spy unit had to try its best when we were approached by our oversight
committee to gain some insight into these things, as we've talked about many times on
your show.
Where were we?
I'm lying, this is a terrible lie.
Basically, we were with Fast Walkers, we were with Contact, coming in August, in North America,
or you know, C3.
Oh, I, no, no, now I remember.
You want to know why some of these hot zones were hot zones?
Sure.
It has something to do with the entry points above the Earth, magnetically and gravitationally.
Oh, really?
Particularly magnetically.
Where things enter at these conjugate points, or something like that.
Magnetic, I don't understand the physics at all.
We may be dealing with a race that's 100 million years ahead of us, nominally.
I don't have any problem saying I don't understand, but it deals with these points that are above the Earth that change from season to season.
And the technology that some of these things use Whether they're robotic or manned, I use that term loosely, avail themselves of these particular points that change from season to season.
Now, it could be something that's different than that, but that's the best that we could do, let's say, 15 years ago, and try and understand why these points were important.
Now, visually, on the ground, it looks really neat, because, for instance, I stood there with scientists from the Skunk Works and Stanford Linear Accelerator watching, sure enough, 9, 30, 10 o'clock at night.
Zip!
excuse me, Ron, did you expect anything else?
Oh my god, here they come. I said, yeah, that's why we're here. We expected this,
but when this actually happens to some of these people, and when they actually see the very thing they're out in
the field to photograph and to measure and record, they need a change
of underwear.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Believe me, I understand.
I've had one very close encounter, thank you very much, and I was in shock for a long, long time.
That was a CE2, I think.
That was close enough for me.
Well, I think you would let Art think of it, you know?
I'm inviting you to a really nice... CE3.
Yeah.
Ed, there's no question in your mind, in other words, these hot points, these areas where these things happen, because of some sort of magnetic anomaly set up or whatever it is that allows it, it couldn't be a natural phenomena at all.
You've definitely ruled that out.
In other words, this is extraterrestrial intelligence.
Yeah, it is indeed.
But the point, the contact point That we're going to in August is not one of these hot zones.
It's actually a point that appears to have been selected by an agency, let's call it extraterrestrial for now, where we go to meet them.
And it has nothing to do with technology, right?
Entry and exit points.
And you're inviting me along?
The second go-round.
Because we're not sure what's going to happen on the first one.
Um, I appreciate that.
So, if you're vaporized in the first one, then I'm safe, and we won't have a second one.
Well, actually, I'm sending in one of my minions, and I'm watching with binoculars from a distance.
They don't come back, I'm gonna run like hell.
One of your employees, Ed?
Yeah, probably my partner.
Your partner?
You're a highly prized partner, huh?
And you'll be watching at a safe distance like a general with a pair of binoculars?
Oops, there he goes!
Oh, God.
Okay.
Well, that's interesting.
But you don't want press for this?
You don't want a lot of people there?
You want this to be a private affair, huh?
The second time, we have three candidates, two of whom I know, that are very respectable, very believable.
uh...
for instance without somebody like bergman who who who is very credible sure i'm not going to be able
on the report that obviously i'm too much of a wild card
uh... but a very credible person either and will be there
to both film report on this to you And then I can fade away into the background.
What do you know of the nature of this intelligence?
I mean, you've apparently had some sort of communication to get this far, so you must know something of the nature of this intelligence.
They're not human, though the least one that we're going to contact.
They are not human.
I'm not even sure if they're humanoid, but they act as a sort of control system for things that happen on this planet, and they've been around a long time.
Other than that, I just don't know.
Well, you could say that about angels.
I mean, angels and aliens, they've been mixed up together a long time.
And I can see why.
Yeah.
They're both just as mysterious in a lot of ways, right?
And I'm not sure they're not one in the same, are you?
No, I'd be a liar if I said I'm certain about anything involving this particular contact.
But I am certain about how we targeted the contact area, how we found it, what we did in order to do it.
Well, I'll tell you, I definitely wouldn't want to be the only one there.
that led to finding the area and i will tell you that the brilliant choice on
their part is very brilliant
and uh...
uh... more than a couple of these future hopefully one of the uh... three
candidate for the chosen will have a lot more well-trained i would i definitely would want to be the only
one there i mean to have an experience like that actually happened to me
a c three an alien intelligence uh...
I'm not sure that I could do the job that I do now unless I had an awful lot of witness testimony to go along with what I was saying, Ed.
If I was the only one saying that Ed led me to it and I saw it, I don't know if I could even come on and say that.
Well, we'll have a lot more.
We're going to photograph this, and so when you have prominent figures who are involved in a photography and a videography
in conjunction with them reporting on their own experiences not Ed Dames, but some very prominent people
that is a very different animal well you're right, of course it is
it would be at the least regarded as a very major incident photography, lots of important people to say, yeah, I was
there, I saw it, it happened and if there are physical things involved here
if for instance you obtain physical evidence or you are transported somewhere where man cannot go
and you bring back, if you come back at all something that cannot be found on this planet
Do you get the picture?
Yeah, well, I do, and it's a little grim, perhaps, if I come back at all.
No, no, it's wonderful.
It's an adventure, Art.
It's totally an adventure.
It's a whole lot less grim than the things I've been talking about, the aforementioned tonight.
I suppose, in a way, possibly.
And Art, you and I are both, I mean, we share one thing passionately, and it's this mystery, this UFO ET mystery.
I mean, you and I are both on the same sheet of music here.
Think of the chance.
Well, you're right there.
And it's going to be that soon.
August?
August.
In fact, you know, the way things are going, it better not be any later, because it's not going to happen.
In other words, those ominous events that lurk toward the end of the year would, in a way, supersede... Eclipse.
Eclipse completely.
Such contact.
Possibly, yes.
And it's a funny set of coincidences.
Serendipitous, perhaps.
Is it a coincidence?
I don't think so.
I think the timing is immaculate.
So in other words, this contact, this CE3 contact, could have something to do with forewarning, preparing, or otherwise passing information about what's about to happen.
My gut feeling, and it's just a gut feeling, it's not remote viewing, because remote viewing was concentrated on actually determining the site.
My gut feeling is that It has something to do with avoiding a nuclear conflagration, a World War III, a nuclear exchange.
It has something to do with turning mankind's attention.
Higher intelligence and feeling a little bit more humbled and yet desirous of those toys.
That'd be a big job.
Hold on Ed, we're here at the top of the hour.
I'm Art Bell and from the high deserts, this is Coast to Coast AM.
We're about to open the lines for Major Ed Dames and that could really mean trouble.
Stay right where you are.
Sweet dreams are made of this.
Who am I to disagree?
I travel the world and the seven seas.
Everybody's looking for something.
Some of them want to use you.
Some of them want to use you.
The End The Heart of the City Street
The Heart of the City Street is beating.
you Bye.
Bye.
Light from the neons turned the dark to day.
We were too hot to be sleeping.
We had to get out before the magic got away.
In the morning with the night.
the magic got away. In the morning with the night, playing in the shadows, I'll point you and I, to the morning light.
The first time caller line is area code 775-727-1222.
To talk with Art Bell from east of the Rockies, call toll free at 800-825-5033.
at area code 775-727-1295.
The first time caller line is area code 775-727-1222.
To talk with Art Bell from east of the Rockies, call toll free at 800-825-5033.
From west of the Rockies, call Art at 800-618-8255.
International callers may reach Art Bell by calling your in-country Sprint access number,
pressing option 5, and dialing toll free 800-893-0903.
From coast to coast, and worldwide on the Internet, this is Coast to Coast AM with Art Bell.
You know, I saw Mars Attacks.
The opportunity to participate in a CE3 event might be alright but I'm not sure it's a good idea for
somebody from Trump.
Once again, Major Ed Dames.
Ed, welcome back.
I want you to get a plug in for your website.
Anything else you want to plug?
We do that for all our guests as a sort of a thank you for coming on.
I know, I guess it's learn www.learnrv.com and the RV is in capitals.
Is that right?
It doesn't matter.
It shouldn't matter.
I'm an educator, I'm a teacher, and remote viewing is really gaining a foothold in society now.
The PlayStation games use remote viewing as one of the so-called powers for the players.
Right.
Suspect Zero, the feature film, that was the first time the term remote viewing was used in a feature film.
So it's gaining a foothold, and I encourage people to learn this.
I teach it along with my professionals.
The advanced training is all free.
Online, and we're there every day.
The DVDs are for sale, and it teaches you all the fundamentals of remote viewing, so they can order it through LearnRV.com, or they can call a toll-free number and buy either the beginning DVD or the entire set.
Okay, what is the, people like toll-free numbers, what is it?
is it? 1-866-607-8439. Okay, I've got 866-607-8439 and there they can order what?
They can order the Learn RV DVD set.
It's the one-of-a-kind, the best RV instruction in the industry.
I started the industry 20 years ago, so these are a set of DVDs that teach you all the fundamentals from the ground up.
And then all of your questions are answered in my classroom online.
All that training is free, including the advanced training.
It's one-on-one instruction, and it's near real-time.
I have seven professionals in there as well as myself.
All right.
Let's go to the phones.
I had a lot of people with questions.
First time caller on the line, you're on the air with Major Ed Dames.
Morning.
Hello.
Hello.
Thank you for taking my call.
Alright, it is a fair question.
very fascinating to me. I was curious, could you elaborate on any more abyss that you have
viewed for this year particularly?
It is a fair question. Of course he just added the volcano, which is on the website and you
can look at it right now. And he just had what many call a hit with the earthquake.
Any more events?
Of course, we've got... Well, actually, you've already given us two, and they are the CE3 event coming in August, and then, of course, the more negative November-December beginning of the end, the Sky is Falling event.
Yeah, as my nominators suggest, Dr. Doom, I'm mostly interested in events where there's a large loss of human life.
My intent there is not to really scare, it's to attempt to save a few individuals who just might decide not to be in the office that day or take a vacation.
But no.
However, having said that, there are a couple of my team members and I are forecasting a major economic collapse for the United States and If that collapse is very abrupt, we may be able to put a date on it, and that date may be soon.
So, we're still working on that, however.
That has nothing to do with loss of life, except people jumping out of windows.
Alright, but those are the major events that you see.
You don't see, I mean, that's major enough, right?
Remember Y2K, when everybody was jumping up and down about that?
I told you over and over again, it's going to be a non-event.
Well, we use remote viewing to look at a non-event.
Y2K.
You did, and that's what you said.
Now, people would argue about the size of the event, and many would say that a lot of things, because of the panic involved with Y2K, were prevented because they did the work ahead of time, like they were supposed to, when the panic started.
So, it was one that was prevented, or you can say didn't happen, but certainly a lot of programming work was done to damn well ensure it wouldn't happen.
Well, then we're dealing with a paradox.
Indeed, aren't we?
Wild Card Line, you're on the air with Major Ed Dames.
Hi.
Hi.
Hello.
How are you doing?
Just spiffy.
Good deal.
All right.
Going back to the beginning of the show when you were talking about the EVP, I missed the Saturday show because I'm new to your show.
But when Ed Dames went to remote viewing and he saw it as an abortion.
Yes.
Okay.
Now, Let's go back to the Christianity, the abortion picket lines type scenario.
Could that not be a significant calling that abortion is life, actually, that they are really taking for a moment of conception?
Well, of course it could.
I would certainly look at it that way.
That is the essence of what you're saying, isn't it?
In other words, if this was the aborted child crying out in some way that we certainly don't understand, that would be indicative of the fact that it was in fact life, intelligence, consciousness, all the things that we worry it might be when we do these things, right?
You're darn right.
In that case, it would, which is very non-pleasing to me.
I mean, I was figuring, okay, we've got the beginning of nascent life here, but But now, this for me, it sheds a whole new light on the phenomenon and the act itself.
A whole new light.
All right.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air with Major Ed Dames.
Morning.
Good evening, gentlemen.
I consider myself generally a skeptic with a certain caveat.
You two gentlemen touched on the parallel between angelic and extraterrestrial.
I'd like to take that same concept and apply it to remote viewing.
In the Bible, you have great prophets like John, Daniel, and Elijah.
None of these men considered themselves to have any gift.
In other words, everything that they saw, everything that was revealed to them, through God.
And also, when Jesus was doing his ministry, when he was on earth, there was these two gentlemen that had an employee, and she was a psychic.
And he touched her and healed her.
And these two gentlemen went to like small claims court or whatever and wanted to get money from them because the lady no longer had the ability to do those things.
And so I'm saying no one person, I believe, can learn or develop the ability to do that.
All right, well, hold it.
Too much at once.
That's a direct challenge to the whole concept of LearnRV.
So, Ed, why don't you respond to that?
No person can learn that.
This is a skill, and it has nothing to do with the spirit.
It's totally a mind skill, and what you do with it is totally up to you.
I do not teach ethics.
I teach remote viewing, which is not revelation.
It is an information collection skill via the unconscious.
We are not prophets.
We're not even psychics.
Simply a cognitive skill.
Do you see any parallel between the prophets, for example, the ones he named, biblically, and the ability to remote view?
Any connection?
No, I don't.
Because their prophecy was the result of revelation.
Something anointed their eyes, and that's certainly not the case with mine.
Nobody's been around to anoint my eyes.
I have to work my butt off to do what we do.
So there isn't any connection.
All right, fair answer.
And by the way, I'm a Christian, so... I can tell.
Well, to the Rockies, you're on the air with Ed Dames.
Christian.
Is that me?
Yes.
Yeah.
Okay, thanks, Art.
And hi, Ed.
The cognitive brain is awesome, isn't it?
I was just wondering, do you know that we pick our... the baby at time of conception, or just before that, picks their own mother?
And I was just wondering if you knew that.
Huh, good question.
Ed, there are many, many, many who believe that children actually pick their parents.
I don't know, Art.
I've heard that, of course, many times, but I simply don't know.
I'm a very simple man, and I do not know.
Okay, fair enough.
International Line, you're on the air with Major Ed Dames.
Good morning.
Good morning.
Hi.
Hi.
I've done a lot, not a lot of reading about Tesla, but the electromagnetic theory, and time travel, and also through space to other planets.
And I just wondered if Ed had read, you know, like the Monarch Project, of course, which is similar to the Philadelphia Experiment, and a book that I think Ed would be very interested in reading called Flying Saucers Have Landed by Desmond Leslie and George Adaminsky.
And they go into detail about how the pyramids were lifted, and of course ETs, and they have pictures, and they've actually talked to, this guy's talked to a Venetian.
Do you have a specific question, sir?
Uh, well, yes, actually.
He said that, uh, I just wondered if he had read these, uh, these articles.
Okay.
That is the question, Ed.
Yeah, I'm familiar with all that work.
My emphasis is on replicability and meeting the criteria of the Western scientific method, which unfortunately we have to meet.
That's replicability.
We have to be able to do the same thing every time and be in control of it.
In the case of ETs, we're going to have to be able to photograph that and interact with it on call in order for science and the public to really accept it.
Otherwise, it's just our word against somebody else's.
I've been wondering a lot about that lately.
In this day and age of being able to morph anything into photography, I'm not even sure the level of proof that it would take.
I mean, if you had a number of credible witnesses and even pictures, Ed, I'm not sure in this modern day and age that people would believe, that that would be sufficient for people to believe.
You need material from somewhere else.
It's going to have to be material.
I agree.
And I guess the examination they do is going to have to show it's off-world material.
And even then, it's going to be tough.
Yeah, it is.
It will be.
I guarantee it.
We really live in a very strange day and age, Ed, where people just are prepared to disbelieve everything.
Put in front of them, proven it doesn't matter.
Yeah, but there are ways.
I mean, for instance, if you can demonstrate real-time that you've moved something from Earth to Mars, and it can be observed from this planet, using scientific tools, yeah, that's the kind of thing that will probably have to happen.
All right.
First-time caller on the line, you're on the air with Major James.
Hi.
Hi, Alan Helderman, Bill Arkansas.
I'm calling on the life-after-death thing.
Yes.
Have you ever considered origin of that, like if you take a leaf And you cut part of it off, and they photograph the aura, the whole leaf still appears, the outline anyway, or a hand, you cut a finger off, you photograph the aura.
That's all true.
Yeah.
Yeah.
A brilliant, brilliant photography.
And so what that implies is that what I call a pre-quantum field, that's my name for it, a pre-quantum field, where you have a pattern that is just prior to light.
It's in another, let's say, another dimension, for lack of a better word, and that pattern is there.
And then it manifests as light.
But the pattern is there.
I think Rupert Sheldrake would agree with me on this.
Right.
So wouldn't that indicate life after death?
Because if you eliminate part of something, that part has died, right?
It doesn't support life after death.
It just supports the phenomenon as observed.
And to anything else, it's inference.
But what do you think that phenomenon means?
mean to cut off a part of the leaf or somebody's finger and then to still have
the entire appendage appear
including the pattern exist regardless of the material it means the pattern
the template or that whether it's a human being uh... dna uh... or a
leaf the pattern exists somewhere else
uh... that that is for all intents and purposes invisible and that the manifestation of the pattern is light and then
matter light energy matter
Wow. All right. Wildcard Line, you're on the air with Major Ed Dames.
Good morning.
Oh, thank you.
Hi Art.
Hi.
Major Dames, it's such a thrill to talk to you.
You might know that Father Andrew Wingate told George Norrie that Heaven had said that Pope John Paul II was not actually going to die but was going to go into exile.
Yes.
So I wonder if you know, is Pope John Paul really dead?
And if you say he is, then do you know if in the next few years he is going to come back to life as himself?
I don't know why Father Wingate made that statement, and I don't know what statements he's made about that since, but my view is the Pope definitely died.
That's about it for me.
You have any comment, Ed?
I don't know whether you caught that on the program.
Remote viewing has limitations, Art, and one of the limitations is when we deal with death and what is called, in the vernacular, continuity of consciousness, those ideas, a remote viewer can't grasp ideas that are beyond life, because we're not programmed Okay.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air with Major Ed Baines.
associated apparently with those kind of afterlife links we we have some evidence
but i won't get into that so there it there
we have no chain of custody on the right hand about it the idea there
are are so or totally beyond our camp
used to the rockies you're on the air with major ed games hot
Hi, yes.
Can you tell me, in your opinion, with a meteor shower, if we had a meteor shower, do you feel it could make our atmosphere radioactive or poisoning to our existence?
As far as, you know, with a meteor shower.
You're talking about it a while ago.
In other words, Well, he's been talking about a meteor shower, sir, that would be so serious it would force the shuttle down, possibly even the International Space Station.
Right.
And it's a big marker to look at.
So, I guess, Ed, this caller is saying, well, could the meteors introduce some biological agent, or would there be further harm from them than just the meteors falling?
Actually, it's an interesting question, because we do have remote viewing sessions to indicate there is something that It happens to our atmosphere that is totally unprecedented, and yes, it does deal with some type of, for lack of a better word, poison, but it's not biological.
And I don't understand the data, so I don't talk about things I don't understand.
Well, for the Rockies, you're on the air with Major Ed Dames.
Hi.
Hi, Ed.
This is Tom in San Diego.
I took your class two years ago.
Think popsicles.
But that class, it's kind of a use it or lose it type of thing, and last time you were on the air, you mentioned that you have new ways of teaching using a method to reach coordinates and time.
So I'm wondering, how would I restart your lessons?
The LearnRV DVDs, go to LearnRV.com, look at the DVDs and all of that, and that is a heavy-duty, very comprehensive review of everything from the fundamentals all the way up to the beginning of the advanced stages.
Look at those and see what you need to do in terms of which single DVD you need or whether you need to review the whole set.
Alright, well I picked up on what he said that I thought was interesting, Ed.
He said he took one of your classes and it's a use it or lose it kind of proposition.
Okay, well from that I conclude that He did learn how to do remote viewing.
Yeah, but it's like playing the piano or martial arts.
Exactly.
And so the question was, do you lose it if you don't use it?
You bet.
You have to resurrect the skills.
It's like music.
I'm not a musician, but I know enough about it to know that if you don't practice, you get really rusty.
The best remote viewer is the one that works the most.
The skillsets can continue to improve with practice, is that correct?
Oh yeah, our confidence level goes way up.
That's why people like me have no problem sitting down in front of a television camera doing this in Tokyo next month.
They can give us any target we want as long as it's correctly ginned up.
and the search term is correct whether to missing child or an event or
something like that or what's broken on the subway we have no car we have no problem sitting down
you know and and work in the problem coming knowing that will get the right
answer uh... especially with more time we put on the target i've
heard that young physicists for example have a very short
shelf life of brilliance that uh... people in various fields
uh... they use uh... you know intellectual prowess have a very short
shelf life and they have a very few years where they're really very very
good and i i wonder
just a quick answer to come in on the break if that's true are being as well
there's a sort of a few years of extreme ability and then does it trail off or
does it keep getting better you can bet
It keeps getting better.
If you keep practicing, it keeps getting better.
You've gone through the roof.
Wow.
All right.
My guest is Major Ed Dames, affectionately known by colleagues as Dr. Doom.
And if you've been listening this morning, I'm sure by now you understand why that affectionate reference is used.
I'm Art Bell.
I'm not sure if I'm going to be able to do it.
🎵 Music 🎵 🎵 Where are those happy days? 🎵
🎵 They seem so hard to find 🎵 🎵 Music 🎵
🎵 I tried to wait for you 🎵 🎵 But you have closed your mind 🎵
🎵 Music 🎵 🎵 Whatever happened to our love? 🎵
🎵 Music 🎵 I wish I understood
It used to be so nice It used to be so good
So when you near me darling Can't you hear me SOS?
The love you gave me Nothing else can save me SOS
When you're gone How can I even try to go on?
When you're gone Oh I try, how can I carry on?
To talk with Art Bell, call the wildcard line at area codes The first time caller line is area code 775-727-1222.
To talk with Art Bell from east of the Rockies, call toll free at 800-825-5033.
line is area code 775-727-1222. To talk with Art Bell from east of the Rockies, call toll-free
at 800-825-5033. From west of the Rockies, call 800-618-8255.
International callers may reach Art by calling your in-country Sprint Access number,
pressing option 5, and dialing toll-free 800-894-8253.
From coast to coast, and worldwide on the Internet, this is Coast to Coast AM, with Art Bell.
It is. What a pleasure to be with you. I am Art Bell and Ed Daines is my guest. Major Ed Daines.
The very controversial Ed Daines. And if you've been listening tonight, you know why.
Once again, Major Ed Daines.
Ed, is there anything in the program thus far that you wanted to cover that you haven't?
Nothing I can think of.
Alright.
Well, lots of people want to talk to you.
So, first time caller line, your turn with Major Ed Dames.
Me, sir?
Hello.
Yes, you sir.
Mr. Bell, Mr. Dames, I have a question for you.
Mr. Dames, are you familiar with an author, I'm probably going to murder his name, Zachariah Fitchin?
Is that it?
Yeah, I am.
And the book, The Twelfth Planet.
I am.
All right.
Do you see any kind of cosmic coincidence or whatnot of the year 2012, the planet Nairobi, the year 3760, our year zero, all this combining into one little thing?
Not to interrupt you too much, but I'm not wedded to the year of 2012.
But I do agree with Dr. Sitchin on the Nibiru, the existence of Nibiru, and it does appear that there is a large passing space body, whether or not it's called Nibiru or not, that is going to have an extreme effect on this planet, and has had at times in the past, depending on how close it's passed to Earth coming and going.
But no connection to 2012.
All right, Caller?
Um, another question about our moon.
Uh, I'm not familiar with the exact writings, but it is said that, uh, Plato once wrote of a time before the moon.
Is it possible in some crazy, some crazy way that the moon is actually like the original Death Star?
Uh, I've heard the moon linings were fake, that, uh, the moon was hollow, and, uh, you know, some, uh, radio waves would bounce off of it.
In your opinion, sir, do you see any connection with, uh, the moon as a base?
For greys, that are Italian, whatever.
Uh, uh, There's a lot of things on the surface of the moon, and over the last seven years or so on this show, I've broached some of those things.
In fact, there has been activity by at least sentient machines on the moon for very, very long periods of time.
In fact, things that were there upwards of a million years ago and left have left their They're trash behind.
I'm not talking about the U.S.
space program either.
I'm saying that there have been things on the moon for a long, long time.
If that's true, is our government very much aware of it, NASA, aware of it?
Has all this information been held from us, Ed?
All right, I'm going to have to come to the conclusion that, because I know the resolution of the Clementine missions, that there's no way they could not have seen what remote viewers have sketched in craters on the moon.
There's just no way, because Clementine has covered virtually 98% of the surface of the moon, so they've got to be withholding it.
The Air Force has to be withholding it, or pretending that they don't see it.
Either way.
Because some of this stuff is right on the surface.
Got it.
Got it.
Wildcard Line, you're on the air with Major Ed Dames.
Good morning.
Hi, hello y'all.
I just have a comment that might be insightful to what you said about the EVP thing.
Sure.
There is a scientist and a teacher of other doctors who taught at Yale University.
He's got lots of credentials and lots of books out there.
This book called Fields of Life, where he had a meter device or a measuring device that could measure the force field around A person.
So, if you were going to break your leg, let's say, and it's no time on the other side, you could be breaking your leg two or three days in advance, it would show up as an anomaly on this measuring device.
Also, if a mother, a mother-to-be, were pregnant, it would show up as a second little force field floating in and out of the womb area.
So, sometimes it was in the womb, and sometimes it was in the force field of the mother.
So, whether we have Life as the Catholics believe, or as some other people believe.
I just thought it would give you some insight.
This book called Fields of Life by Harold Saxon Burr should be replicated because science should be that way.
The man who was on your show some weeks, months ago, Cleve Baxter?
Yes.
He is probably new, Harold Saxon Burr, and he is the one who taught the FBI about the Light detectors and how to do that.
He has the same kinds of measuring devices.
He'd be an excellent man to do that replicating.
Okay.
I thought you would be interested in that.
I am.
I appreciate it.
Thank you.
You're welcome.
Take care.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air with Major Ed Dames.
Yes.
Hi.
I have two things to ask you, but first of all, let me say this first.
First of all, I think we'd be pretty shallow to even consider that we're the only light form in space.
For example, you take the ancient pyramids, I forgot how many thousand years ago, carving to the side of a man operating some kind of a craft with hand controls and things kind of in the back, similar to a spacecraft, back before they even had as much as a hammer.
They had the idea somewhere, but anyway, two things I want to ask was, one, in your opinion, because I do respect your opinion, you're very, very, well, pretty brave to come out in public with your things anyway.
Do you feel that we would recognize extraterrestrial life if we saw it, or have we?
As well as, does the government ever harass you in any way about your opinions?
Alright.
Would we recognize extraterrestrial life?
If it was very alien, obviously we would.
Otherwise, it's a good question.
Ed?
If they're non-humanoid, and they have weapons, we'll certainly recognize them.
Oh yes.
Alright, and on the second question, it is a curious question, since you've left the employee of the government, Ed, have you ever been harassed by the government?
Actually, no, it's the other way around.
I'm the keeper of the keys.
You've harassed the government?
No, I can harass them, yes.
I'll tell you why, because I'm the keeper of the keys.
I own all the advanced technology that they gave up, and the last thing in the world they want to do is shut me down, because they may need me really fast.
Let's say the Vice President gets kidnapped or something like that.
They have nowhere else to turn, and I know wherever I speak, because I've been at celestial levels of intelligence.
And many of my friends are generals, so... And you believe that if the situation were dire enough, they would call upon you?
In a heartbeat.
Many wonder why, then, have they not called upon you with respect to Osama bin Laden?
That's another story.
Osama bin Laden, that's not what I'm talking about.
That's not an emergency.
Well, it might be a political emergency, or it seems like it was.
It's now seemingly more unimportant every day.
We would be called upon as a tactic of desperation, just like we were in the spy unit.
When no intelligence was available on a situation that was dire, then we would be called immediately.
In fact, I sort of would like to wonder in public why we're not searching harder, why there's not more pressure to find Osama Bin Laden.
It's kind of one of those things, it's been pushed to the very back burner.
We haven't found them.
Maybe that's the reason.
We can't find them, and if we can't find them, then there's no point in having pressure about it.
It'll just disturb people at the top.
And it gives us a reason to keep on keeping on.
Status quo pro ante.
West of the Rockies, you're on the air with Major Dames.
Hi.
Good evening, Art Bell and Major Dames.
Good evening.
This is Suleiman.
I'm calling from Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada.
Yes, sir.
Listening to you on CFUN 1410 AM.
And I want to let you know, Ed Dames, that I'm one of your greatest supporters.
You have a lot of friends that really have become knowledgeable in regards to information that you've disseminated.
And I'm from Los Angeles, and you would be shocked at the amount of Americans there in British Columbia who listen to your information that you disseminated about a safe place to go to over a couple of years ago on the Art Bell Show.
You don't happen to be the son of a professor, do you?
No.
Okay, because one of my students, a famous professor, has a son by your name.
Continue, I'm sorry.
I do have a title as World Event Psychic, and the reason why I'm calling you is that I had access to your tapes a couple of years ago.
I applied it to my psychic abilities, and it enhanced those to the point that when Jessica Lunsford's case was initiated there in Florida, in Citrus County, Florida, when she was kidnapped on February the 23rd, I'm the one that called on March the 5th in a conference call with someone who witnessed a call to Tara Smith, and I'm the one that gave the Sheriff's Department the information where she was located, right across the street from where she was abducted, the man that did it, and that she was buried.
And WFLA was going to do a story on me, and the Sheriff's Department told me that my information was inconsequential, yet everything that they are now saying about the case Well, she was buried, the man, and everything else.
I gave them that particular information.
I actually remember that, and I know that that's the case.
I've often said, especially in my classroom, my online classroom, you get somebody like yourself who's a natural psychic, naturally gifted, I can turn them into an all-star rather than just a professional, if they toe the line.
Speaking of gifted individuals, and it's just only a little off-topic, not much, Ed, have you seen the program Medium yet?
I don't watch television.
It's a program you should at least look at.
Trust me.
This has done so well.
It takes all the hocus-pocus baloney out of it, and it's just done in such a human way that it's really worth your seeing if you decide to poke your face in front of the big tube one day.
First time caller on the line, you're on the air with Major Ed Dames.
Oh, hi.
Hi.
You know those sound machines that You get the ocean and all that and stuff from that you put?
Sure.
Well, I had one of those and one morning I heard a voice coming out of it.
That's alright.
You know, it was a human voice.
It wasn't a spirit.
It was a guy saying, can anybody hear me?
It was plugged into the wall.
You're kidding.
And I'm thinking, is that like a maybe a ham radio or somebody?
So I turned it off.
I didn't say anything.
I didn't know what it was.
No, ma'am, it would not have been a ham radio operator.
That would have been a CPR.
Okay, well, also, I have heard spirits talking to me through these sounds, the ocean thing I hear.
Well, actually, you're really on to something, Ed.
It's just another delivery of a kind of a white noise, in a way, isn't it?
It's an audio output, and it's got an oscillator in it.
In order for us to, as a remote viewer, in fact, anybody that's trained in this, even to an intermediate stage, my students, could take a particular event.
It would have to be a specific event, like for instance, that one.
Can anybody hear me in connection with you and that device?
And track it back.
Establish connectivity quite easily.
Determine whether it was something ambiguous or enigmatic as opposed to a CB operator or somebody Well, yes, but still, it's generating a sound, and it could be modulated in the same way a radio signal coming out of a speaker or anything else could be, right?
Yes, but in my experience, RF pulls it in better than something on a sonic generator like that.
However, it doesn't rule out, because they're both electromagnetic in nature, to have an EM field around them.
All right.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air with Major Ed Dames.
Hi.
Hello.
Hello.
Going once.
Going twice.
International line, you're on the air with Major Ed Dames.
Where are you calling from, please?
Paris, France.
Paris.
Oh, hello.
How are you?
I spoke with you about two weeks ago about the energy crisis.
I recall.
Got it.
Please indulge me.
I've had the great opportunity of being able to correspond and speak with personally Joseph McMoneagle.
I'm sure Mr. Dames knows Joseph.
Joe worked in the Sci-Sci Unit and ran many projects for me.
If you could indulge me, I'd like to share with you a letter that was written to Joseph McMoneagle and his subsequent response to my letter.
And I'm certainly not here to question your veracity or the credibility of your guest here, but I'd like to share, if you have a moment, I'd like to share a letter to him which basically It's only a synopsis of one of the remote viewing experiences I did have while I was in Canada.
Okay, but rather than reading two letters, sir, just give us the gist of it.
May I just?
It's a lot easier.
It's very short.
It'll take up the same time as any guest.
Alright, go.
Okay, thank you very much.
Hello, Joseph.
I'm a Canadian living in Paris, France.
Since being illuminated by the book Evolution's End by Joseph Chilton Pierce, I became aware of anomalies that occurred in my dream and semi-dream states.
I wish to describe a few of these to you.
I'll only describe one.
When I was living in the French countryside, specifically in Burgundy, I had a strange dream.
I must preface this experience by telling you that we did not have television, only a monitor to view films, and did not have direct access to the news.
My wife was in Paris doing a photo shoot, and I was alone.
In my dream, I was on a ferry crossing from mainland Australia to Hobart, the capital of Tasmania.
That alone seemed strange in retrospect.
As I debarked at the port of Hobart, There was an outdoor cafe.
It was very sunny, and there must have been between 20 and 30 people there.
I looked into the eyes of several of the clients and felt profoundly the ambience of the environment.
In the next scene, I saw a blood-drenched river filled with broken glass and debris.
In the next scene, I was sobbing in the presence of the Premier of Tasmania, who is a female.
I said, how could something like this happen here?
Why?
I don't understand.
How is this possible?
I woke up with tears in my eyes.
I thought, what a strange dream.
I eventually just let it go as a nightmare.
Two days after the dream, my agent at the time, Meyer Hyman, called me from Paris.
The first words that literally came out of his mouth were the following.
Did you hear what happened in Australia today?
Alright, sorry, we're running out of time.
Okay, basically, I received a letter from Joseph McMoneagle and he said the following.
As I've tried to explain in many of my books and writings, etc., there is probably no way to improve the ability, which is why I've always tried to stay away from the subject of training.
When I get into it, all I ever do is piss people off.
Evidence shows that the degree of skill usually demonstrated by someone walking in the door is about the level of skill that can be expected forever for that person.
People who go around telling people that they can train them and make them better at being psychic or doing RV are simply lying to them.
Go into my classroom, my online classroom, and look at the new student's work, and then you'll question both Joe and yourself.
Take a look at the trained... These are new students who have walked in the door a while ago, a few weeks ago, who are now outperforming Joe McMonigle.
And then reassess the letter.
Why do you think that Joe has that, um... It's ego.
It's all ego.
I have one, he has one, but the problem is Joe is a natural psychic.
He does not know how to train people to do what he does, and therefore he cannot.
so he knows nothing about training and he would not let me teach him
because of ego and i fired joe
from project that i work because he insisted on things that work
not in the satellite photography that you said they were there at the job
there and visible so uh... that's a pretty sharp disagreement uh... that that
i was not And I'd like to point out his first book, Mind Trek, in the interview in the back of the first edition, he was specifically asked, were you a remote viewer for the U.S.
Army?
He said, no.
It's in the book.
And he also said the U.S.
Army did not have a program.
On the second edition, when he saw that I did not go to prison, he changed.
All of a sudden, he became a remote viewer and the Army did have a program.
That is, speaking with a forked tongue.
Um, hmm.
A little disagreement there.
First time caller line.
Quick question for Major Ed Dames.
Hello.
Yeah, a quick question.
A few years ago me and some friends were playing with a Ouija board.
We asked if there was life after death, and it came up.
Phantoms fill the skies.
I kind of put a goose bumps to me like I'm getting right now talking about it.
And, well, it was a cloud busting.
Well, already you've given us too much.
Let's take up Ouija boards for a second, Ed.
Um, most people view them as a portal to open, you know, doors that you might not want open.
Do you view them that way?
Is there something special about a Ouija board?
Oh yes, they're very special.
They replicate a pattern and they imply an intent and mind that's very powerful and that particular pattern is something that is very interesting.
Allegorically speaking, it's like shining a bright searchlight up into a very, very dark world where entities reside.
Those entities you do not want coming down into your house.
Totally negative.
Listen, we're out of time.
Show's over.
I do want to give out your 800 number again for materials that you can buy at LearnRV.
It's LearnRV.com or toll-free number 866-607-8439.
866-607-8439, correct?
Correct.
Okay, buddy.
As always, thank you for being on the program.
Thanks for the predictions.
We'll all be watching like hawks, and I'll talk to you next time.
I'll see you with the gold.
Take care, my friend.
Yeah, with the gold.
That's right, the gold.
Don't forget the gold.
What a birthday present.
Well, from the high desert till tomorrow night, I'm Art Bell.
Good night.
Midnight in the desert Shooting stars across the sky This magical journey will take us on a ride.
Filled with the longing, searching for the truth.
Will we make it till tomorrow?
Will the sun shine on you?
▲
Export Selection