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Jan. 2, 2005 - Art Bell
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art bell
How long you remain on the internet may depend on how interesting you manage to be fairly quickly, but it's going to be open line rhythm terrorum.
Anything goes, no net talk radio.
Now I will open one special line, and that would be the first time caller line, all right?
And what we're going to do there, instead of the usual, although you could certainly, I guess, at the same time be a first-time caller, cutting through all the bologna, and I mean cutting through all the bologna, all I want on that line is anybody who has had physical alien contact.
As in, you touched them, or probably more likely, they touched you.
That's all I want on that line.
Physical alien contact.
Now, that removes a lot of possibilities like, well, aren't it happened in my dream?
No.
We, I think many in this audience believe that we have been contacted, that we are in contact right now, that we've been visited for a long time, and there are many, many allegations of very close encounters.
In other words, that's what I'm after tonight, is really close encounters.
Either you touched them or they touched you, right?
Alien contact.
So that's what we're going to do tonight.
Now, the one line for that, and everybody else calling for any other reason on that line should immediately hang up and give it up because the only thing I will accept on that line are people claiming actual physical alien contact.
That number is area code 775-727-1222.
It is a separate and distinct line, and now set aside for those who really have had a close encounter.
757-727-1222.
Now, on all the other lines, you are welcome to do as you will.
We'll see.
Open lines are just what they are.
Open lines.
You get what you get.
All right.
One more item before we look briefly at the news and then launch.
I'm very proud of my sister, Jessie, and you can follow this by...
My sister Jessie, ever since she was little, we were all little, she would take every single one of our family pets and she would sequester them and train them and train them and train them.
I mean, she just really took the family pet, and you didn't see it for hours, you know, while it was getting trained.
Well, she's really good at what she does.
In fact, phenomenal, actually.
And she won, I don't know how many of you know about Animal Planet, but she won a segment of Animal Planet with her dog.
It's an amazing...
You know, I've talked to Jess, and what you're going to see is going to astound you for sure.
We've got a link to the video from Animal Planet on the front page of the website, coastocoastam.com.
You'll see my sister there with Maggie.
And you click on it and go watch the video.
And what you're going to see there is going to astound you and is going to make you ask questions.
You should be asking real questions about what animals are when you watch this.
I mean, what they really are.
You're just going to see it isn't a trick.
This dog can do math.
It can do math.
You ask a question, subtraction, addition, maybe even multiplication, right?
Division.
This animal can do math.
And I know what you're going to see was it's going to seem not believable, but you will see the judges on Animal Planet say, hey, there's no signing going on here.
There's no baloney.
This is a real thing.
This is amazing.
And so she won.
And so I was kind of proud, so I put it up on, had it put up in the middle of the website there.
Thank you very much for getting it up there, guys.
So that's my sister, Jessie, with her dog, Maggie, Animal Planet winner.
Anyway, if what you see doesn't make you question what we all think about animals, then you just weren't watching carefully.
Looking a little bit at the world, Indonesia increased its death toll from last week's earthquake and tsunamis now to, this is just Indonesia, to 94,081 Monday, raising the total number of people reported killed in 11 countries now to at least 137,321.
They say the death toll will hit 150,000.
On Sunday, a Sumatran fisherman was discovered barely alive under his beached boat, the first survivor found in three days now.
But with tens of thousands, that's a big number, tens of thousands still missing in crushed seaside settlements and in the flotsam washing the shores of the Indian Ocean.
Rescuers have turned full attention to getting food and water to those they know are alive.
Insurgents are keeping it up.
They're going to try and kill the election.
They exposed the vulnerability of Iraq's security forces against Sunday.
They killed at least 22 National Guardsmen and their driver in a suicide bombing and 10 other people in separate attacks with elections only now weeks away.
What do you think?
Are they going to make it?
It does not seem as though things are going well.
So if they hold the election despite all of this, then they will really have achieved something.
Now, this is not good news.
Canada has confirmed its second case of mad cow disease.
They did it today, just days after the U.S. announced plans to reopen the border to Canadian beef.
But the U.S. Department of Agriculture suggested it would not change its stance.
The dairy cow from the province of Alberta, which was born in 1996, is tested positive.
According to the Canadian Food Inspection Agency, the results confirmed preliminary tests released earlier this week.
We do not want mad cow disease loose in America, and it's pretty close.
All right.
You've got the theme for this evening's program.
Now, incidentally, I guess I should mention, just in case there is a plethora of people who have had actual physical alien contact, the one number that I have reserved away need not be the only number you would call.
You're welcome to attempt to get through on any line if that's the case with you.
Otherwise, it's open lines, and the unexpected is directly ahead.
unidentified
Are you...
art bell
I told you about my, you'll see the picture of my sister there.
Then as you scroll down the website a little bit, you're going to see something that you just had to know I could not resist putting up tonight.
And as you might have expected, Princeton University with its global consciousness project and its many, I don't know, 62 at least, I believe, internationally placed eggs.
These eggs are all little computers spitting out random numbers.
And they have watched major events in the world now for a long time, and we have watched them.
Now, this is perhaps becoming one of my favorite topics, consciousness, period.
I've told you that I believe consciousness, directed consciousness, and we've proven that here on the air, can have an effect on the physical world, whether it's to change the weather or change the outcome of an event.
This power is real, and what I've placed on the website tonight for you is another demonstration of that if you care to look.
The proof is there.
And I refer, of course, to the tsunami.
And we now have the printouts from Princeton of what the eggs reported with respect to the tsunami.
And guess what, folks?
30 minutes before the tsunami, as you might expect, the chart went jumping.
A full 30 minutes before the tsunami, the charts began to jump.
And the only way that can be true, the only way that can be, I mean, when we had 9-11, people argued, for example, that, well, you know what then?
It's probably reading the intent of the hijackers or something like that.
But in this case, it's Mother Nature.
And here we have another result.
It doesn't make the case, but it puts another nail in the coffin, that's for doggone, sure, of this incredible project at Princeton, this consciousness project.
It's proving it.
Event by event by event.
And now another event has registered on their radar at Princeton, and the proof is up there for you to read.
Thought you'd be interested.
Let's go to our special event line, this event being an actual physical encounter with an alien.
Hello there.
unidentified
Hello.
art bell
Hi.
What is your first name?
unidentified
Mary.
art bell
Mary.
Okay, Mary.
You know what this is all about.
Now, you have had actual physical contact, Mary, with an alien?
unidentified
Well, many times, but this is something that's very unusual.
About two months ago, I had an alien actually enter into my body while I was fully awake, 7 o'clock at night, my family around.
And my husband saw me.
It was bizarre.
art bell
When this event occurred, Mary, were you conscious of what was happening to you?
unidentified
Totally conscious.
art bell
Totally conscious.
unidentified
I was watching Get Ready to Watch Dateline, and I had all this energy flowing through my body, and I looked up, and I could see three aliens, the graves, standing there, and they're actually in a beam of light.
art bell
Okay.
unidentified
And they just showed themselves for a second.
And about 15, 20 minutes later, I couldn't get up off the chair.
And I finally was able to get up.
And I felt really weird.
And all of a sudden, it felt like there was two people inside of me.
And I could actually feel them and feel it feeling.
art bell
All right.
This is going to seem like a rude question, Mary, but I'm going to ask it.
How do you know it wasn't all in your head?
unidentified
Because you know what?
It felt like my body was just overstuffed.
Plus, I had all this energy just flowing through my body.
art bell
I know, I've got all that.
How do you know that it was sourced out?
How do you know that it really was aliens?
Now, you say you saw Greys.
unidentified
I have not saw them.
Had I not seen them, I would have thought maybe it was just some bizarre episode.
But I don't know how else to explain it.
art bell
Could it have been a bizarre episode accompanied by something in your imagination?
Could that be?
Or was there any way for you to discern that you were fully conscious?
Reach down, pinch yourself, whatever.
unidentified
I was.
I was walking around.
I actually went outside and I was walking around.
I was talking to my husband, but I was also experiencing this.
How else do you explain something else being in your body?
It's hard to tell you.
art bell
I don't know.
What do you think the intent was of what was done to you?
Why?
Any idea?
Guess?
unidentified
Well, what I understand is that I could tell he, I'll just call it a he, had never experienced the human physical body before.
He seemed somewhat maybe more dimensional.
Maybe that's why he hadn't.
He just seemed so amazed with petting the dog and petting the cat.
art bell
Not it.
At the time that he was in you, so to speak, or meshed with you, not only was he detecting you, but you were detecting his feelings as well.
unidentified
Yeah, and that is how I know that there was somebody inside of me.
Not only that, you could physically see.
I mean, my husband was looking at me, and I was looking at myself in the mirror, and my eyes felt like they were bulging out, and my facial, my face just was different.
art bell
What did your husband have to see it?
Well, yeah, what did he have to say about all of this?
unidentified
He didn't quite, you know, he believed me.
Because I've had other things happen before, but he believes me.
I mean, he really believed me.
And there was no doubt about it that something just amazing was happening.
And I don't know what else to say about it.
It was a great, unique experience.
And I have to say that very, very benevolent, kind of thing inside of me.
art bell
That's what I wanted.
Benevolent and kind.
So you felt all of that, that there wasn't any, I don't know.
unidentified
No intrusion.
There was none of that.
It was like a child touching things and walking for the first time.
So it was really a unique experience for me, too.
art bell
Well, that's a very interesting description, like a child doing something for the first time.
That's what it would be like, too.
unidentified
And he was very worried about scaring my husband and scaring my son.
I actually kept turning away from my son because I looked so bizarre at the time.
art bell
All right.
As with most who have had this kind of experience, apparently, and you said it, it's happened to you before.
Maybe not exactly.
unidentified
That's the only time that that had happened.
I've had other contacts with aliens, and I'm woken up on ships and things like that.
But this is really a unique.
art bell
Is there anything else?
You know, it's an opportunity, an awful lot of people listening.
You had real contact.
Was there any message or any understanding that you gleaned from these beings in any of your encounters that would be important to pass along to the audience?
unidentified
Well, a lot of the encounters that I had had, I only remember bits and pieces, and I had a lot of anger and hostility.
So I'm really kind of shocked that in these last years I've had really great experiences with them.
And all I have to say is that they were the grays, and these ones were really nice.
I can't say that for all of them.
art bell
Do you think the early bad experiences that you had were only bad because you were frightened?
Or do you think they really were bad, you know, in perspective looking back?
unidentified
You hit it right on the head, Art.
I think that's what it was.
I was so afraid.
You know, actually, what I did was I was so afraid of them, and I was so angry at being abducted all the time that I just said out loud, come to me during the day, and I won't be afraid.
You know, if you just do, you scare me at night.
And when I said that, I started having these great daytime experiences.
So, you know, I don't know what else, you know, that happened.
Maybe it'll help other people.
Maybe if they do that.
art bell
Do you think this is really common, Mary?
Do you think a lot of people are having these experiences?
Have you met anybody else who is?
unidentified
Not that kind of an experience.
Not where they've come right inside your body.
I've never heard of that.
Well, I know people have had good experiences.
art bell
Listen, I've never heard of it either, Mary.
But the odds are, now that you have told this story, trust me, I'll bet you a whole bunch of light bulbs went on out there, and there's people trying to dial saying, that happened to me, too.
Anyway, I hope they do.
Yup, and I really appreciate your calling.
So there's no overall message that you got, Mary, that people should know about.
I mean, are you ready to say don't everybody don't worry, they're friendly?
unidentified
Well, I don't know all of them, so I can honestly say that.
I'm happy I met some that were nice.
I can't say speak for all of them, but the ones I've been meeting lately are very nice.
Again, and I got no direct message from him when he was inspired me.
He was there to just experience.
art bell
No big earth straighten-out or else kind of message, right?
unidentified
No.
No.
art bell
Okay.
Mary, thank you for calling.
unidentified
Thanks, Eric.
art bell
Right.
What a good, very excellent way to begin.
Little did I expect that sort of thing.
She was occupied.
And during the daylight, and during a time that she was with her family.
That's pretty incredible stuff, actually.
So, there you are.
That line is reserved away for those who have had, and she qualified, actual physical contact with aliens.
You touching them, or of course, they're touching you.
Otherwise, open lines all night long, something other talk shows dare not do.
unidentified
Music Out of the street, I was talking to a man.
It's in the store.
My brother's not a man that I understand.
You shouldn't worry, I said any more crime.
Cause if you get it wrong, you'll get it right next time.
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art bell
It is indeed, and we're only taking calls on what is usually the first-time caller line from people, anybody who's had physical alien contact, and that means exactly what it says.
No, it happened in my dreams, but physical, actual alien contact.
Mary had one inside of her.
That counts.
Coming up in a moment, more of you.
unidentified
The End It's ironic.
It's ironic.
art bell
Normally, this would just be a kind of a cutesy little Christmas story, you know, but if you listen carefully to the words and it doesn't scare the hell out of you and stand the hair on the back of your neck straight up, then you're not listening.
19 December is when it was written.
Santa and his reindeer will be able to see their way so much better than ever on Christmas Eve.
For a mysterious light is beginning to brighten the dark polar winter.
Eskimos and scientists report a strange, quote, lightness at noon, end quote, that is turning the usual all-day darkness of the high Canadian Arctic into twilight, apparently in defiance of natural law.
Canadian government officials say that, well, it might be the result of an unusual atmospheric phenomenon caused by global warming.
Inuit hunters, those are the Eskimo hunters up there, are telling the government's weather station at Resolute Bay, Canada's second most northerly village, 1,000 miles from the North Pole, of A new light in the sky.
And Wayne Davidson, the Canadian government official who runs that station, says he believes it might be caused by climate change.
So, how about that?
A new light in the sky where there ought be none.
That seemed a story worth reporting.
On my special little line, reserved away for those who had actual alien physical contact, you would seem to be on the air.
Hello.
unidentified
Hi, my name's Rod.
art bell
Rod.
Okay, Rod, from where are you calling?
unidentified
Sparks, Nevada.
art bell
Oh, right here in Nevada.
unidentified
Yep.
art bell
Hello, Nevadan.
All right.
Well, then, I'm sure what you say will be as solid as silver.
unidentified
I believe so.
art bell
All right.
What happened to you, Rod?
unidentified
Well, this particular time, I was 19.
I'm a long time abductee.
I was water skiing.
I lived up in Oregon, and I was water skiing, had a real bad accident, hit the water, got water into my sinuses, blown my nose real heavily.
All of a sudden, this little silicone thing comes out of my sinuses.
Flawless.
Perfectly cut, about the size of a tensile in diameter, probably about three-quarters of an inch long.
art bell
And you noticed this along with everything else that, well, came out?
unidentified
Yes, yeah.
It scared me to death because this.
art bell
Yeah, oh, that wouldn't be.
Listen, anytime you sneeze up plastic, it's got to be or whatever in the hell it was.
unidentified
Exactly.
This shouldn't have been there.
So I was quite startled.
So I put it on my dash.
I was in my car.
And all of a sudden, just a sudden impulse came over me to grab it and throw it.
And as soon as it left my hand, I'm thinking, why did I do that?
So I didn't think anything of it.
And then years later, I recall an incident when they came back and reinserted it.
art bell
Whoa.
Where there's quite a story.
I mean, the average, first of all, you'll have to excuse me for asking, but it's not usual to examine your sneezings.
unidentified
No.
art bell
So what made you look at that at this point?
unidentified
Well, I don't really know.
I mean, it just, you know, it was there.
I mean, because I was just surprised at how much stuff was coming out of my sinuses.
A little bit of blood and, you know, just a lot of apparently buildup.
art bell
Well, that's why a lot of people look at sneezings and coffins.
Oh, could there be blood there?
No, instead, you've got this Godforsaken whatever it is.
So you throw this thing, and you don't even know why you threw it.
unidentified
No, no.
It was just instant.
I mean, I had no control.
Because I wanted to save it for research, whatever.
Yeah, I had no clue.
art bell
Absolutely.
unidentified
You know, because I was completely unaware of my situation at this time.
I've only known for probably about, I don't know.
art bell
I mean, it's weird if they made you throw it, because by then you would assume if that was the center of their influence, that they had just lost it.
unidentified
I have no clue.
Yeah.
art bell
And then you say they put it back.
unidentified
Yes, yeah.
My brothers and my father and mother were all abductees also.
But at any rate, this particular time when they came back, like I said, I lived up in Oregon, lived near some Hollyfields.
My middle brother and I shared one room, and the youngest brother was off into another room.
Well, my brother and I were sitting facing the windows, and all of a sudden I see something flash across the window, and that's the last of that evening that I remembered.
But then consciously I remembered quite a few years later.
art bell
So then this thing is still within you now?
unidentified
Yes, it is.
art bell
You know, you're a long-time abductee.
Your families are abductees.
That's so typical of the whole abductee thing.
Is there anything you can clue us in on in terms of the motivation for what they do, what their goals are, anything at all?
unidentified
Well, I think it's just a lot of research.
They've taken a lot of semen.
They've actually showed me children that they had.
art bell
So you think you've spawned?
unidentified
No, they pointed one out that was mine.
Yeah.
It was pretty wild.
art bell
Pretty wild, putting it mildly.
All right.
Listen, man.
Thank you for the call.
I very much appreciate it.
And I don't know.
Don't catch colds.
Or maybe it's better if you do.
I don't know.
What would you do if you sneezed up a hunk of whatever?
Brother.
Well, I guess I'm not surprised.
We get story after story after story of contact.
These people that I've talked to so far, these first two, sound straight on to me.
I wonder how many of you begin to believe that we are being visited and we're being...
We're being studied right now.
And that seems to be all we know.
The wildcard line, you're on the air.
Hi.
unidentified
Hi.
How are you doing, Art?
art bell
Oh, quite well.
Thank you.
unidentified
That's good.
That's good.
art bell
What is your first name and where are you?
unidentified
My first name is Sharon.
I'm in Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada.
art bell
All right.
unidentified
Yeah, home in the BSE, right?
Anyway.
art bell
Yeah, the second one now.
How's Canada taken that news?
unidentified
Not good.
art bell
Not well, huh?
unidentified
Not good, no.
And Manitoba is a beef province as well.
And the poor guys are just going down the tubes.
art bell
Okay.
I'm curious, ma'am, do you know in Canada, are they, what are the feeding rules up there?
They're not allowed to feed parts.
unidentified
They're really strict.
Pardon me?
That's the surprising thing, is they are really strict up here.
art bell
They are.
unidentified
Uh-huh.
And some of our farmers are sort of like, well, you know, what gives?
Because our rules are as stricter, stricter than the states.
And, you know, it's just one of those things, I guess.
art bell
Well, Maybe they better look more carefully at one of these things.
I mean, this is now the second time, and maybe this BSE is spreading in some other way.
unidentified
That would be nice to investigate.
I wish they would.
Yeah.
art bell
Well, if they're not looking at that, then they're not doing their jobs.
unidentified
And especially this second cow is a pet cow that's been around for 10 years.
art bell
Oh, brother.
unidentified
Yeah, it's not even a food cow or like it's a dairy cow that's been used for dairy for years.
art bell
Oh, now that's really weird.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
Yep.
So it's sort of out of the mainstream system.
art bell
Okay, well, you called for something else, no doubt.
unidentified
Yes, I did.
I did.
And I'll admit, first off, I'm an idiot.
I don't know the sprint number, so I just phoned.
It says, I'd like to get some sleep.
The other night, you had a show on about predictions.
art bell
That's right.
unidentified
And I have been being harassed because I didn't phone you to let you know you're going to have a chance to get an orange kitty, a little four-footer.
art bell
Oh.
unidentified
And I'm supposed to let you know that you have to take that kitty because he's going to be really important.
He's doing something for you.
Isn't that killing?
Four cats now.
art bell
Come on.
unidentified
Anyway, the marmalade fellow is going to be really important.
art bell
So it's a male, huh?
Yeah.
She's holding her fingers up and across.
Another one.
unidentified
Hey, I'm a cat person.
I can relate.
I keep doing these rescues, and I think my name is down on every rescue place in the city.
You know, all these cat rescues keep going, oh, but just one more.
art bell
There's nothing you can do.
It's okay, thank you.
unidentified
Yeah, and the other thing?
art bell
More?
Yeah.
Better be good.
unidentified
Well, I don't know, but it's weird.
You know, I was reading the paper the other day, except it wasn't really the paper.
Yes.
And Britain is crowning their monarch.
art bell
Okay.
unidentified
Well, they already have one.
So my guess is something's going to be happening to Elizabeth.
art bell
All right.
I'm not recording that because the recorded predictions are already gone.
There's, you know, if you're an animal person and an animal shows up at your door, I mean, like for us, it's cats, right?
My sister, Jesse, dogs.
For me, it's a cat.
And a cat shows up, probably knows the other four are here.
There's probably something like a neon sign that's above the house saying, sucker, sucker, sucker, in cat ease or something.
There's nothing you can do.
I mean, if they're there, what are you going to do?
Throw a stone at it?
unidentified
No.
art bell
Can't do that.
Go out there and go, shoo, shoo, go away.
No.
It's probably hungry and cold and has picked you, and then you're doomed.
You're just doomed.
There's nothing else you can do.
You now have another animal in the house.
On my special physical contact line, you're on the air.
Hello.
unidentified
Hello, Art Bell.
How's it going?
art bell
Oh, it's going...
What's up?
unidentified
I have a story.
I was in southern Colorado near Cortez.
Okay.
And me and a friend were traveling and staying in a hotel.
art bell
What is your first name?
unidentified
My first name's Rebecca.
art bell
Rebecca, okay.
And you were staying in a hotel.
unidentified
And suddenly we...
No.
art bell
No, okay.
I heard you talking to somebody or something.
Okay.
unidentified
Nope.
Okay.
And suddenly everything just kind of changed in the room.
Then we started hearing a sound.
It was like a hum, a buzz.
And it started spiraling at the top of the ceiling and slowly worked its way around us and kept going like a we were surrounded by the spiral of sound.
art bell
Gotcha.
unidentified
And before we knew it, we were seeing almost through the walls and feeling the city around us.
art bell
Really?
unidentified
And the next thing we saw was like a fire down through the floor.
art bell
A fire through the floor.
Okay.
unidentified
And it was basically like we were being lifted up above the city and looking down at the mountains because Cortez kind of has some mountains around.
art bell
Right.
unidentified
And there was a fire going on.
art bell
As in free space, I mean, just hanging up there, looking down?
unidentified
Yeah, we were still in our room.
art bell
Okay.
unidentified
But it was almost like it was just a veil, like, to keep us feeling comfortable where we were put or where we were brought to.
art bell
That's pretty strange, all right.
Yes.
unidentified
And anyway, to make the story come basically to its end, we heard the sound kind of slow down and it spiraled up back up toward the ceiling and went away.
And we kind of came back into ourselves and felt pretty.
art bell
Why do you presume that what you had was alien contact?
unidentified
Well, we walked outside and there was smoke all around.
And there was, in fact, a forest fire.
And we also saw at that age, this was like maybe almost 10 years ago.
It was 1996.
Right.
And when I was younger, I would always see UFOs.
And in fact...
art bell
You think you're an abductee now, actually.
Right?
unidentified
I guess I wouldn't necessarily use that word just because I don't have the greatest connotation with it.
art bell
What word would you use?
unidentified
I feel like they almost took us for a ride and then they just brought us back and they let us feel something that they live with every day.
art bell
Do you have any idea why they did it?
unidentified
Maybe just to give us insight that we are capable of it to some degree and we can use that on a we can use all our consciousness together.
art bell
Okay, um good enough.
Maybe.
Um so far these really have been quite you know literate uh people explaining and you know explaining something that um young, I, you know, otherwise you'd be called a nut, but they don't sound like nuts, not at all.
So why do you suppose they're here?
I mean, trust me when I tell you there's no sure this phone is just ringing off the hook, so there's all kinds of alien contact out there or all kinds of some kind of contact going on out there.
And so far most of it good incidentally.
In other words, everybody feeling they're benign so far for the most part.
First time calling a line, or actually, special line.
You're on the air.
unidentified
Hello, this is Victor from Anaheim, California.
art bell
Hi, Victor.
unidentified
Oh, okay.
Here's what happened to me.
I'm going to abductee.
This was the second time I saw the aliens.
It was, let me see, in 1994, April 2nd.
I went to sleep at about 12 o'clock in the morning, and suddenly I became conscious.
I couldn't move, and I had a very familiar vibration sort of a feeling that's common to abductees, I believe.
And I couldn't move and all that.
And the lights were off.
I left them on before I went to sleep.
And I saw these flashing lights, and my body started to float off to the side of my room.
And I went, I physically floated through the door down the hallway.
And, you know, because I saw the aliens once before this, and I've read a couple things.
art bell
So, Victor, you knew you weren't dreaming?
unidentified
Absolutely.
art bell
Absolutely.
unidentified
Well, the first time I saw him, I was totally conscious, so I woke up in the middle of the night.
But, you know, I don't want to sidetrack here, but as I floated down the room, I was very calm, like you hear in a lot of books, that you're like unless you're curious.
Unnaturally calm.
Unnaturally calm.
art bell
Many, many abductees have reported that it's almost like they've had a tranquilizer or something.
unidentified
Yeah, exactly.
Anyway, I was unnaturally calm, and I was floating down the hallway, but I knew I had an idea of what was going on.
I floated down the dark hallway into the kitchen, and physically I floated through the garage door.
And at that point, I figured that's where I was going to see them.
And I closed my eyes completely at that point.
And when I got into the garage, I started feeling hands and pulling and pushing sensations on my body.
art bell
Victor, can you afford to hold on?
unidentified
Oh, sure.
art bell
All right, we have a break coming, so I want you to stay right there.
unidentified
Ain't got no trouble in my life, no foolish dream to make me cry.
I'm never frightened or worried, I know I always get by.
I hit up, hit up.
Cool down.
Something gets in my way overwhelmed.
Don't let my heat get me down.
Gonna take it the way that I found it.
I got music in me.
Yeah.
I got music in me.
I got music in me.
I got music in me.
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art bell
So it's kind of interesting.
In the first part of the show, I think you're seeing why people like the late Dr. Mack took abductees seriously.
You know, you just...
They had contact with aliens.
So many of them are clean.
And so many of them don't sound nutty.
That it led people like Dr. Mac into wondering what was it was all about.
And they and they're pretty smart people, not just the late Dr. Mac, but many others.
And they're not dummies.
And uh.
They believe it's really going on.
that we really are being visited.
If you just tuned in, we have open lines with a special line, the so-called first-time color line, reserved away for anybody who's had actual physical alien contact.
And that's naturally led to, I guess, hearing from a lot of alleged abductees.
And we are so far.
And some pretty interesting ones at that.
So that line set aside especially for people who have had actual physical contact.
And the number is area code 775-727-1222.
Other than that, it's open lines.
And back now to Victor.
I believe Victor is correct, isn't it?
Victor, you were going through, I recall, walls and...
unidentified
Well, doorways.
art bell
Doorways and all kinds of things, just right invisibly as though they were...
unidentified
No, not at all.
art bell
And did you say the garage?
unidentified
Yes, I was in the garage, and when I closed my eyes, before I went through the door, I said, well, this is where it's going to happen, and I'm going to close my eyes.
art bell
I want to.
If you're headed toward a door, there's only two possibilities.
One, you go through it, not the most likely, and the other, it hurts.
unidentified
Yeah, well, when I got there, you know, I got a little braver, and I opened my eyes, you know, peeking through my eyelashes, and I saw silhouettes and stuff, and then I closed them again.
And then after a while, I just decided, you know, what the heck?
You know, I'm feeling good.
Why not just open them up and see what's going on?
And I saw this alien with, he wasn't a typical gray like the one I saw before.
He had wrinkled brown skin, which of course I've seen many a time, heard of about many times on the internet.
If you look hard enough, you'll find references to them.
And he had wide slanted eyes, and he sort of floated from my right side to my left side, and he was looking down at me, and I was wondering, well, why the heck am I seeing this?
Why is this happening?
And, you know, it was right when I thought that.
And, you know, this contrasts the unusual calmness with him looking straight in my face.
He turned and he looked right into my face.
And he gave me the most, you know, incredibly evil smile, you know, you could possibly imagine.
It looked almost like he was a demon or something.
And all of a sudden, this huge feeling of fear came over me, and it was just like this white haze, just kind of just took over my vision.
And without losing consciousness, mind you, I felt absolutely totally awake this whole time.
It just faded away like into a movie, and I was back in my bed.
art bell
I mean, how do you know it wasn't a dream?
unidentified
Well, because lots of the stuff that happened to me when I had this experience, I didn't know that this was, you know, what was supposed to happen to me when it happened.
You know, it was later.
In fact, the very next day, I was reading, was the book, Secret Life by David Jacobs?
And it was like, it was almost a sign that they wanted me to know that this was what was going on.
And in that book, it just describes just about everything.
art bell
All right, but an alternate explanation for what happened to you could be that you were reading that book and that it was on your mind and that you really did have a dream or a nightmare or whatever you want to call it.
But that book could have, you admit you were reading that book, so it could have been on your mind.
And so I ask again, how do you know it wasn't a dream?
unidentified
Well, because I've had the other experience and this one, and I was totally awake.
art bell
So you've been abducted previously.
unidentified
Yeah.
But I don't want to take too much time on the phone call, but anyway, just I only read the introduction of that book before.
art bell
All right, buddy.
Listen, thank you very much for the call.
But I'm going to bring that one up as possibly suggestive influence, even if all you read was the introduction.
Believe me, that would be enough to put it on your mind.
So I don't know about that one.
I believe that he believes certainly what he experienced.
I'm just saying that there's a distinct possibility that it was on his mind.
Wildcard line, you're on the air.
Good evening, morning, or whatever.
unidentified
Good morning to you, Art.
Mike calling from Galloway Township, New Jersey, listening to you on 77 WABC out of New York.
art bell
My old hometown station?
Yes.
unidentified
I got a weird story for you.
I'm a police officer first.
Let me blow my siren for you.
That'll keep all the drunks off the road.
My God, you did.
Galloway Township is kind of a rural area.
We're on the outside of Atlantic City.
art bell
Yes.
unidentified
And we were dispatched.
This is going back in October, and I've been trying to call you.
I'm glad I got through.
I don't know if you've ever heard of the Jersey Devil.
It's like an old wives tale.
art bell
Oh, I absolutely have, yes.
unidentified
I've never encountered it myself, but back in October, early part of the month, around midnight, we got dispatched to a motor vehicle accident on Route 9, which kind of connects to Garden State Parkway, And it's kind of like a loop around to Atlantic City.
art bell
Yes, sir.
unidentified
And we get out there, and the car is in the middle of the road.
It's a Nissan Ultima, and it's got significant front-end damage.
The driver is kind of dazed, him and his wife, they were in Atlantic City, and they thought they had hit a deer, but the damage to the car is not conducive with the deer.
Me and the other officer that responded, we looked, we could not find a deer.
And while we're there, and I'm a cop for like 23 years, I just got the foreboding that like I'm being watched.
art bell
Right.
unidentified
And I could swear that I heard like a grunting noise, but the damage to the car was significant.
We throwed it away.
It went on a flatbed.
art bell
Well, was it in your estimation like it had hit something biologically similar?
unidentified
It was a pole, like a fixed object.
I mean, if a car hits a deer, you normally see like deer fur on the car, and maybe it rolls up and over the hood or cracks the quarter panel or something like this.
But this looked like it went right into a pole, and the guy said he didn't see anything.
He just remembers hitting something.
And the two odd things, he was going north on Route 9, but yet the car was almost facing the southbound as if it pivoted around, whatever it hit.
And the next day, the officer and I that investigated, we went out in the earlier part of the shift before the sun was set, and we searched the area.
We couldn't find anything, but I swear, as we checked the sides of the road, like the tree line off of Route 9, going into the tree line, I swear it looked almost like ostrich hoof prints.
I mean, we're looking at them and go, this is too big.
This is not a deer print, and it's not a man's print.
It's like an ostrich, and that's not indicative that this area is South Jersey.
So, you know, we started talking back at the station that this might have been the Jersey Devil.
We never saw anything.
art bell
Wait a minute.
You actually told the station you thought it might be the Jersey Devil.
Now, they must have been a little bit of a devil.
unidentified
Yeah, when we were spitballing back in headquarters, you know, later, we're like, what did this guy hit?
He didn't hit a deer.
art bell
No, obviously, let me slow you down a little bit so that I understand.
The way I'm listening to what you're saying, going down a highway, there couldn't be a tree.
So whatever it was that was hit had to be so stationary that it would be...
unidentified
Yeah, he was right in the road.
It's a clear stretch.
Speed limit's 50 miles an hour.
It's one lane in each direction.
It's a two-lane road.
It's not lit because it's kind of rural.
It's like a cut around the parkway.
And whatever he hit, he hit significant enough to pinch the car around.
art bell
How fast do you figure the car was going?
unidentified
We didn't quiz him.
There were slight skip marks.
I was probably saying he was doing 50, 45, 50.
You know, we didn't do a workup.
There was no fatality.
art bell
Whatever was hit should have been real dead.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
It was a deer.
That's why we went back the next day.
If he hit something, it would have been thrown to the side of the road.
There would have been enough trees to stop it from going too far into the woodline.
But we didn't see anything except those ostrich-sized footprints, and we didn't follow it into the pine barrens.
But I'm just like, it was too strange.
art bell
So you reported it as possibly the Jersey Devil.
Have you heard the end of this yet?
unidentified
Well, this is back in October.
There was no follow-up.
I never heard from insurance companies or whatever.
art bell
I see.
No, I meant your fellow officers.
I mean, that would have gotten there.
Certainly would have.
unidentified
Well, I tell you, when we drive down that stretch road, everybody always says, you know, we're going a little slower, shining the spotlights because it should.
And you're out in the middle of nowhere.
But I said that night as we're hooking up the car, taking it away, I'm getting a sense, you know, that something's watching me.
You know, you just get that sixth sense into cop that you're not alone out here.
And I'm just like, this was too strange because I couldn't figure out what he hit.
You know, if there was a deer, it would have been there.
art bell
Yeah, no, I've got it.
All right, officer, thank you very much.
There's a book about odd happenings in Jersey.
And I'm trying to think of Weird New Jersey or something like that.
We keep it down at the radio station.
And I just sit and glance through it every now and then.
There are, believe it or not, a lot of weird things that go on in New Jersey.
So the Jersey Devil or something, what do you suppose was whatever it was?
Those must have been some legs.
That's all I can say.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hello.
unidentified
Hi, Art.
It's Nancy from Central Massachusetts.
art bell
Hello, Nancy.
unidentified
Yeah, I was calling about these weather cycles we keep rolling in here.
art bell
Ah, boy, there's some buttes, aren't they?
unidentified
Oh, they sure are.
Like tonight, you know, they said we were going to have freezing rain, and the temperature is now 42 degrees.
The barometer is still dropping.
And, you know, it seems kind of strange that we have these asteroids that go by in these sun flares, and that now the temperature is so warm, and yet now they're talking about snow again in the middle of the week.
art bell
Well, Hannah, our weather patterns are changing.
That's all there is to it.
And the sooner we recognize that and begin to take steps to mitigate what otherwise might occur, the better.
They definitely are changing.
You see, we spend all our time arguing about whether or not man's hand is involved.
What's a diff, you know, if it's really changing, then pay attention to that.
Well, to the Rockies, you're on there.
Hi.
unidentified
How are you doing this evening, Ark?
art bell
Quite well, sir.
unidentified
Blessing to you, and Happy New Year to you and your wife, Ramona.
Thank you.
Same to you.
Mine is also about alien contact.
art bell
Oh.
unidentified
But it's more extensive than your previous callers because I've had these contacts since I was five years old.
I'm now 59.
Raised and born in Los Angeles.
I have a top secret clearance with the U.S. government through the Army in the field of cryptography, which I acquired in 1968 through 70.
And I spent my tour of duty in South Korea with the 7th Division in Camp Casey.
And that's where I was informed by a Lieutenant Colonel that the U.S. government has knowledge of these contacts because I was told that I had a red file on myself.
art bell
All right, let's slow down.
Who informed you that the U.S. government had official contacts?
unidentified
There was a Lieutenant Colonel that was active in the 7th Division during the period of 69-70 when I was on tour there.
art bell
Under what circumstances would he tell you something like that?
unidentified
Well, there was a situation that was going on at that time in South Korea that many of the Americans that were at Camp David was aware of.
There was a high racial tension at that particular time because of what was happening in the United States.
And I was involved with a particular group of people that was involved in various investigations.
Long story short was that this gentleman who had contacted me very secretly had informed me that there were individuals on the base at the time that felt that my knowledge of certain things was injurious to them and that I was in danger.
He informed me that the U.S. government was not going to allow anything to happen to me because I had a red file on me.
That's the first time that I ever had access to that kind of information.
What he did to confirm and verify that he was valid, there were things that he told me in a two-hour secret meeting that occurred within the livelihoods and the life of my family members that only could have been known by just family members.
It's almost as if there was a taping device in the house or on the phone in the office.
art bell
They knew things.
unidentified
Oh, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, okay.
art bell
We don't have a lot of time, so you've got to get to that point.
unidentified
Okay, now, what transpired after that is that he informed me that they knew that I had had contact for a very long time in my life.
Now, I'm going to go beyond that.
I'm just giving you information to verify that you're talking to someone who's actually had it.
I ran for mayor of Gardena in Los Angeles in 2001, and people can look on the internet for me.
art bell
Find out who you are by that means.
unidentified
Okay, so now what I want to tell you is this, is that I've had contact with several different species, energy forms, humanoid forms, bipedals that are not human-looking.
art bell
Okay, if you've had all this contact, then I ask you the standard questions.
Do you have any idea what their motives are?
I do.
Okay, good.
I want to know.
Why?
unidentified
Okay, number one is that 99.9% of those that are now visiting the Earth are not hostile.
They are here because the Earth is in a great difficult time.
The shield of the Earth is starting to disintegrate.
They're in the process of trying to rejuvenate that.
But beyond that, these species have told me that mankind is about to annihilate itself in nuclear war.
That biogenetic experimentation has been initiated so that there would be a preservation of the human consciousness and the gene mixed with alien life forms that would exist elsewhere.
art bell
So in other words, we're about to blow ourselves to smithereens.
They're taking samples of us to ensure that some humanity is saved like so many endangered species.
That's correct.
Oh, my God.
unidentified
And everybody makes the joke about the little green men that come from Mars.
Yes.
Yeah, well, they exist, but they don't come from Mars.
They're about three feet tall.
I am not the only one on the planet.
As a matter of fact, there are many of your listeners that will call in and verify this, that they are one of the major entities at the moment initiating biogenetic experimentation.
And I was shown a female hybrid human mixed with their particular alien DNA.
This female was about 13 or 14 years old.
She was about four feet high.
She had the power of levitation.
She had pure white hair.
That made it strange.
Green epidermis, pure white hair, pure white teeth.
But she had the physiognomy of one of my daughters.
And very, very beautiful, highly intelligent, and very telepathic.
Mankind is being visited by our brothers and sisters that want to help us.
Also, what I need to tell you, which is very dire.
I was shown in this craft with these smaller green entities a very large screen.
It was like a movie screen.
I was shown Los Angeles, New York, and Washington being struck by nuclear weapons.
I also was shown an asteroid that was going to hit the Earth.
It was going to come across the United States at nighttime from east to west.
A large portion falls off somewhere near Wyoming, and the largest portion falls off just east of the big island of Hawaii, which will cause a tidal wave at night several miles high, striking and destroying the San Francisco Bay Area.
And all that was left is when the water receded was the northern portion of the Golden Gate Bridge.
art bell
God.
You've given us an awful lot to chew on.
unidentified
Oh, I was also to tell you this.
You are, this year, 2005, you and your wife, there is this evolvement that you have made in the last few years.
You are now spiritually on the level for contact.
And the woman who spoke about the cat that is coming to you, the tomcat that's coming to you, I want to let you know something, is that through this particular entity that's coming, it's going to heighten your contact level.
And when you are contacted...
Okay.
art bell
You hold on.
unidentified
Okay.
art bell
I've got a break coming up.
I don't know.
I don't know if I bargained for all of this tonight.
I'm getting far more than I bargained for already.
That's this program, though.
Close to Close AM from the High Desert in the middle of the night.
I'm Mark Bell.
right where you are.
unidentified
Well, I'll be gone down a mile, now I'm gonna go.
Yeah.
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Idiots.
art bell
Good morning, everybody.
How you doing?
We're getting definitely a more than bargain for show.
So far, we've got a special line open up for those who have had actual physical contact with aliens.
One way or the other.
unidentified
And boy, we've been getting our money's worth.
art bell
Anyway, if you'll stay right where you are, we have only just begun.
So if I've got this straight, biological experiments to save just a little bit of mankind because of the dire things that are about to happen.
And then I suppose the planet to be populated by, I don't know, some what, sir, would you say?
Some sort of half and halves?
unidentified
No, not the Earth.
The destruction that I saw that would actually start in the Middle East was so horrific that the Earth would not be a place that any life form would inhabit.
art bell
Not good for man or beast, huh?
unidentified
Yeah, for a long period of time.
However, I was shown a very huge fleet, three-tiered copper-colored saucer-shaped vessels that were coming into the areas of the earth that had not been under nuclear attack, and people were boarding those particular vessels.
I know for a fact it's going to happen.
I also know that you, during this year 2005, after this cat appears, like this woman was telling you, you are going to receive information that is going to take you to a place in the desert at night in your car and follow it through because your greatest wish is going to happen in terms of being contacted.
And when that contact is made, the information that you will be given will be the beginning of other people that will call in with messages.
And may I suggest something tonight?
Just instead of having people calling on the special line for physical contact, there are so many people that have messages to give through your station in regards.
art bell
You've done it.
And if they have them, sir, they'll give them.
And listen, thank you for your contribution.
I appreciate that, I think.
Though I'm not sure that I wish to be hauled out into the desert for a special meeting.
I don't know what I'd do if that really happened.
I have no idea.
None.
International Line, you're on the air.
Good morning.
unidentified
Yeah, Art.
I got two stories you can pick.
One's an animal soul story, and the other one's a glitch in the timeline story.
art bell
Well, that's a hard choice, but I'll take the animal story.
unidentified
Okay, uh, I used to live back in London, Ontario.
I'm in British Columbia now.
And my roommate had a bulldog, Brittany.
Really cool dog.
art bell
Okay.
unidentified
So, anyway, I ended up moving out west.
I was out here for a few years.
And one night I had this dream.
And the dog's in a hallway or a tunnel.
And at the end of the hallway, there's a door.
And I'm in the hallway with the dog going, oh, where's Dennis?
Like, Dennis was the dog's owner.
And the dog was kind of looking up at the door for me to open the door.
So that's all I remember.
So I wake up, and I phone back to Ontario.
And I said, Dennis, I said, I had this really weird dream about your dog.
He goes, well, you should be dreaming about chicks, not dreaming about my dog, right?
So I go, I said, well, it was just weird.
I thought I'd phone to see you.
art bell
Oh, that's a good response.
Yeah, it was good.
unidentified
Anyway, so I said, well, I was just concerned.
It was awfully strange, right?
It had been years.
So he goes, well, my dog's in Windsor with my parents.
Everything's cool.
So I said, okay.
So I go to work, come home, there's a message on the machine.
Phone Dennis.
So I call back, and he said, Brittany had passed away that night.
art bell
Oh, my goodness.
unidentified
And I'm like 3,000 miles away, and it had been years since I'd even seen the dog.
And the dog was in this transition, in this tunnel at this door.
art bell
Oh, man.
What are the odds?
unidentified
Tell me about it.
art bell
Yeah.
Yeah.
So, yeah, that would be such a Severe event to happen to anybody.
I mean, what does that now make you believe about the nature of death and everything else?
unidentified
Well, I'm Christian.
I believe in the soul and an afterlife and everything else.
art bell
Yeah, but I mean, here you were sent in a dream to help a dog into the afterlife.
unidentified
I know.
And it happened with a cat, too.
Well, it wasn't the same thing.
art bell
Doesn't traditional Christian belief hold that only human beings have souls at all to go anywhere for that matter?
unidentified
Well, we're the only ones with free will.
art bell
Well, yeah, but you met a dog on the other side, sir.
That says a couple things here and there, right?
unidentified
Oh, definitely.
I believe everything, all things, all things are connected, like every bit of energy, like quantum physics level.
Whether it's a dog or a plant or it's all one thing.
art bell
All right, good enough.
That's an interesting story to contemplate.
He only had a dream, but in the dream, he was with the dog that was going through the door that had, in fact, died.
Now, what does that say?
About us, about our abilities, about dogs and souls.
A lot, I suppose.
First time caller line?
Oh, no, no.
Special line, you're on the air.
unidentified
Yes, Torre.
Hi.
art bell
What is your first name?
unidentified
Roy.
art bell
Roy.
Roy, this line is for people who've had actual physical contact.
unidentified
Absolutely.
I spent nine days with one from the 18th of June of 2003 until 26th of June in New Mexico.
And I've been in contact with them ever since.
art bell
Give me your first name again, please.
unidentified
Roy.
art bell
Roy.
Okay, thank you, Roy.
unidentified
I also knew Kenneth Arnold.
art bell
Well, just slow down.
You spent from 18 June through 26 June with an alien.
How did that come to pass?
unidentified
Well, it isn't an alien.
They're extraterrestrials.
We want to change your technology then.
They've been here since Earth, before Earth was formed.
So they're extraterrestrials.
They're not aliens.
The aliens are the humans.
They were brought here by ships, just like the previous men that was on the ex-military said ships would come in and take those of us, certain ones, away from the planet.
That's true.
But the human race was brought here from other planets after the Earth was flooded and cleansed.
art bell
You sound really sure about this.
unidentified
Absolutely.
I've been involved for 70 years, long before you were born, Art.
The whole thing has been a cover-up from the government right on down to your door.
art bell
How old are you now, Roy?
unidentified
How old are I now?
art bell
No.
How old are you now?
unidentified
70 years old.
art bell
70 years old.
unidentified
And I got my first implant in 1940.
I have six implants, and four of them are visible.
The last one was put in on the 16th of August by the 8ths.
art bell
And this began how early in your life, Roy?
unidentified
Pardon?
art bell
How early in your life?
unidentified
1940.
I had an implant put in my brain, and I can see any object that they take a picture of with their ship anywhere in the universe in color, and I am totally blind normally.
One of the fellows that crashed at Roswell on July the 7th of 1947 was supposed to heal my eyes.
He was from the planet of Lannulus, but he got mixed up with a reptoid, so he's no longer doing much healing.
art bell
That's quite a story.
It's very interesting.
I mean, you know, a lot of people, Roy, would be in doubt of a story like this.
unidentified
Well, I've got the documentation on my website, but I can't give websites.
I've been giving a worldwide broadcast, and I've had them on with me.
Jay Rod is a brother to the one that I've been in contact with, which was very popular in the UFO magazine, the August issue, and I have spoken with him because he is no longer on earth.
He was very badly treated at Area 51 and other bases by the fellow that they don't know where he is.
They used boiling liquid.
They used hot electric prods on him.
And all the technology that you're using right in your studio came right from Mercedes since 1947.
art bell
Well, all right, Roy, thank you.
Listen, I don't know what you say about these things.
He sounds so sure of himself, doesn't he?
It is reasonable to look at our technological advance as a civilization and look at about that year and then look at the giant leaps we began to take.
I don't know what to think of Roy's story.
As a 70-year-old man.
I mean, it runs the gamut from the very youngest to the middle-aged to the older people.
They all tell very similar, very sure stories.
These people don't sound in doubt.
It comes rolling off their tongue so easily.
Sure.
I guess you can sit back and say, well, you know, the world is full of a lot of crazy people.
Or not.
Wildcard line, you're on the air.
Hello.
unidentified
Hello.
art bell
Hi.
unidentified
Hi.
It's a pleasure to talk to you.
art bell
And to you, what is your first name?
unidentified
Lynn.
art bell
Lynn?
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
art bell
Okay, Lynn, where are you?
unidentified
Northern California.
Okay.
art bell
What's up, honey?
unidentified
Well, I wanted to call and let you know about an experience that happened about 25 years ago.
I was coming home from work, and it was before the time change.
art bell
You're going to have to yell at me a little bit.
You're not too strong.
unidentified
Okay.
It was before the time change, so it was daylight.
art bell
Right.
unidentified
I had just gotten off work and going home.
And I came around the corner at up in the Motherload in Sonora on Trimback Creek, and there was two cars behind me.
Now, as I came around the corner, up over the waterfall, there was a craft hovering over the waterfall.
And I slammed on my brakes and looked in the rearview mirror so they wouldn't hit me.
And I could see the guy's mouth open so far I could see down his throat.
And the craft was hanging out in front of us over the waterfall.
art bell
Oh, my God.
unidentified
And I thought, oh, my gosh, I'm seeing a UFO.
And the other part of me said, no, you're not.
art bell
Real close up?
unidentified
Real close up.
It was maybe 100 yards away.
And I thought, well, I wonder how they could see out of that ship.
And the next thing I knew, I was inside.
art bell
The ship?
unidentified
The ship.
And I could see down below the waterfall and my car and the two cars that were stopped behind me.
art bell
Saying you could see right through the body of the ship?
unidentified
Through the material.
It was like translucent.
art bell
Yeah, all these stories sound so similar.
You heard other callers, didn't you, previous to your?
unidentified
I heard one, the first lady.
art bell
And well, then there was also the fellow who talked about being able to see through things.
So I guess it's fairly common.
unidentified
Yeah, well, I could see out.
art bell
Remember the forest fire?
unidentified
No, I didn't.
art bell
Remember the young lady who...
All right, okay.
unidentified
No.
art bell
She was also up and saw, anyway.
unidentified
Oh, I saw the beans, and they were in the ship, and I could see the panel, the controls, and everything down below happening.
And then I was feeling very at ease and very much peaceful and content.
art bell
Kind of like you'd had a valium or something.
unidentified
Yeah, major.
And they were beautiful.
art bell
You know, I don't know what to say.
I call for this kind of thing, and I get so much more than I bargained for.
I mean, you sound like a pretty normal person to me, otherwise.
unidentified
I would hope so.
It was an experience, though, that changed my life.
art bell
I would imagine it would change your life, yes, forever and ever and ever.
unidentified
Forever and ever.
art bell
All right.
What different beliefs or knowledge do you have as a result of the experience you had?
You were in an alien craft.
I mean, that's pretty unusual stuff.
unidentified
Yeah, I thought it was.
And I have to tell you, I got afraid all of a sudden.
And when I did, I said, I don't want to leave my children.
They're home.
art bell
The volume wore off.
unidentified
Well, I just all of a sudden remembered I had kids at home.
art bell
Yes.
unidentified
And instantly I was back in my car.
art bell
Oh, really?
unidentified
And then I watched the ship, and it just disappeared right in front of our eyes.
art bell
Do you remember any message, any communication?
Was there any effort at communication?
unidentified
It was all telepathic.
It was like, don't be afraid.
You know, just everything is fine.
We're peaceful.
And I was very much at ease, and I've never felt a peace like that ever in my life.
Except when I gave birth to my children.
art bell
I wonder what would have happened had you not expressed a mental desire to return?
unidentified
I probably would have gone with them.
art bell
You think so?
unidentified
Oh, I think so.
I think if you have the choice, yes.
art bell
So when you hear other people telling stories like the one you're telling right now, stories that are so fantastic, I guess some of it resonates with you because of what you did, right?
unidentified
Oh, absolutely.
I believe that we have all kinds of entities that come into our Earth's atmosphere around.
art bell
Did you hear the man who was talking about nuclear war a little while ago and about some of humanity being saved and some of the things that were coming?
unidentified
No.
art bell
Maybe it's just as well.
unidentified
Yeah, I just probably wouldn't have bought it.
art bell
I see.
All right, so you think they're here, but all is well.
unidentified
I don't necessarily think all is well.
I just think they are here, and whether it's good, bad, or indifferent, I only had a very good experience.
art bell
Then that's all you can tell.
I really appreciate your comment.
Right.
Thank you very, very much.
And, you know, these people really sound, I don't know, sincere, right?
Every walk of life, you've heard from the young, the old, the middle-aged, and it just comes rattling right off, not like it's being made up, not like anything except that it happened.
So many of them.
How can that be?
Well, what it does do, though, is it makes me understand why the late John Mack and others have taken this all so seriously, and they really are taking it seriously.
And how could they not?
They must get stories like this and better.
I mean, I'm just picking up calls at random here, right?
East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hello.
unidentified
Hi, Art.
This is Barry from Huntsville, Alabama.
art bell
Hello, Barry.
unidentified
How are you doing?
art bell
Fine.
unidentified
Thanks for taking my call.
You bet.
I was just curious, why do you or your listeners think the aliens would want to preserve the human DNA or the human race?
art bell
Pretty good question, isn't it?
unidentified
Yes, sir, I think so.
art bell
If we were in the process of about to destroy ourselves and the planet we're on, why would we be worth preserving?
Well, I guess one answer, Barry, might be for the same reason that, I don't know, we preserve what we can of animals that are now disappearing on the Earth, you know, mammals that do become extinct.
We're about to try and bring one back, by the way, that went extinct.
I don't know, maybe for that reason, just because we're a cool specimen, I don't know.
I have no idea.
That's just like one answer.
I mean, we're a specimen of intelligence, sort of, right?
unidentified
Hope.
art bell
I don't know.
That's my best answer.
unidentified
Okay, could I make one more comment about the lady that was talking about the weather in Jersey?
You may.
There's a website that shows a hot spot up there in the ocean.
art bell
Oh?
unidentified
Just south of there is a cold spot.
And apparently that, I don't know if it's a natural thing or if it's a recent occurrence, but I've never noticed it before.
art bell
I appreciate your call.
The person who watches things like that is Stan Dale.
I recall during the years he was in Australia, he did a great deal of monitoring of ocean temperatures and made a lot of calls based on that.
And the ocean has a gigantic, overwhelming influence on our weather.
No question.
West of the Rockies, you're on here.
Hi.
unidentified
Hello, Art.
How are you doing?
art bell
I'm doing okay, sir.
unidentified
This is Bill calling from Tucson, Arizona.
art bell
Yes, Bill.
unidentified
I wanted to ask you a question that I don't think I have ever heard anyone ask you.
Have you ever heard of the doctrine of reversibility?
No.
art bell
No, but I'm listening.
What does it mean?
unidentified
Well, there's a new movie coming out with Michael Keaton.
It's called White Noise.
art bell
Oh, I have seen the trailer, too.
I'm very familiar with it, yes.
unidentified
Back in the early 80s, when the phenomenon was going around that started from the old Beatles album of playing albums backwards, where you could get subliminal messages.
art bell
Right.
unidentified
I started doing a lot of research into the ancient doctrine of reversibility that is taught in the occult.
Not for purposes of wanting to take part of it, but trying to find out what the heck was going on.
art bell
When you say reversibility, do you mean like as in the Beatles albums reversing?
unidentified
I'm talking about the ability to talk backwards, to write backwards, and to even project images in front of people subliminally without them noticing it.
And I just wondered if you were curious with it, because I have discovered some unbelievable phenomenal teaching.
art bell
Do you possess the ability to talk backwards?
unidentified
No, I don't possess the ability, but I did teach myself how to stand in front of a mirror and reverse my syllables.
And I found out that a lot of these messages, I researched probably over 50 different albums, Country Western, Gospel, and Rock and Roll.
And I found a phenomenon in all of them where it's not the words written backwards, it's the actual lyrical sound of the syllables when it's presented backwards.
I stumbled on it accidentally by...
art bell
Interesting enough, I'm on a break.
Can you afford to hold?
unidentified
Sure, you bet.
art bell
All right, actually, it's our nickel.
So yes, hold on.
White noise.
It's coming.
unidentified
You get a chiver in the dark.
It's raining in the park.
Meantime.
Sound of the river, you stop and you hold everything.
A man is going mixing.
Double fall time.
Feel all right when you hear the music.
Thank you.
Now you step inside, but you don't see too many faces Coming in out of the road
The End of the Road
Some bell in the morning when I'm straight.
I'm gonna open up your gate And maybe tell you about Phaedra And how she gave me life And how she made it in Some velvet morning when
I'm straight Flowers growing on a hill Driving flies and daffodils Learn from us very much Look at us but
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art bell
Ah, white noise.
I try to be very selective about those things that I really take the time to investigate and try to get to the bottom of.
And I must tell you that EVP is one of those things that I just, I really think there is something to it.
I've looked so carefully at the technical aspects of those who collect EVP and what they do that it almost precludes chicanery.
Now, not completely.
I suppose there would always be something, but folks, there's really something to this.
And then the Halloween show this last, where I had the opportunity to play something that most people never would have on commercial broadcast radio.
About an hour and 20 minutes of the work of a man named George Meeks who began, who actually built some fairly complex sound equipment that allowed the two-way communication with somebody who had passed on.
It was remarkable.
It stood the hair on the back of my neck straight up.
And so here comes White Noise, the movie.
Hollywood seems to follow fairly closely in many of the footsteps that we put in the dirt here.
and I'm looking forward to that movie, and what the rest of this caller has to say in a moment.
The End Caller, I wonder if there is another universe, another place, another time, where everything is, in essence, backward.
Have you considered that?
unidentified
No.
art bell
Still there?
unidentified
Okay.
art bell
What do you think?
unidentified
Well, what I wanted to imagine was what happened one night in 1980.
I was doing research on playing these albums backward.
art bell
Yes.
unidentified
And I was picking up typical statements.
They weren't statements like dogs bark the green grass, you know, trees have leaves.
They were all statements that had direct references to some of the ancient names for Lucifer and Satan.
None of them had anything to do with God, Jesus, or anything like that.
art bell
All negative and...
unidentified
Negative and very, I guess you would say, very damning statements.
art bell
Maybe that is the other side.
unidentified
Well, all of a sudden, during the taping of, like I said, I was playing the albums backwards and I was recording them through my cassette player.
All of a sudden, I got statements that were being made directly to me by name.
And one of the, what the first statement I heard was, now that you found us, what are you going to do with this?
art bell
As though there's a whole, I don't know, army on the other side, a whole world on the other side.
And you suddenly realized they were there and they knew that.
unidentified
It's like I had stumbled onto something that absolutely did.
Whatever I had stumbled upon, whatever it was, it knew that I had entered into its realm.
art bell
I hear you.
unidentified
I shared this with my wife and friends, and it scared them to death.
And I laid it aside.
I kept it in my mind all these years.
And recently I've begun to research it again and discovered that there's absolutely definitely something very, very sinister going on in the frequency and through the words we speak, through the, when you mentioned the EVPs.
art bell
Well, I mentioned the research of George Meeks, and in a way he was doing the same thing you're doing.
It's just a matter of medium.
All of it is sound, and it comes to us through these frequencies in these ways.
Yeah, there's something to it.
unidentified
Well, I think it would be a fantastic topic for a program.
art bell
I understand.
unidentified
And they hear me, and they laugh at me, and they say you're crazy.
No, I'm not.
art bell
No, no, no, no, no.
You found somebody who believes you.
I do, sir.
I'm fascinated with the whole field.
I am looking for somebody.
I tried to pursue people who might have followed up on George Meeks' work.
There is a number of people who are building electronics to duplicate what Meeks did and try and continue the experiment.
Oh, no, I believe you, sir.
unidentified
I appreciate that.
art bell
I appreciate the call.
Thank you.
Now, there's something to this.
All the way back to Alexander Graham, you know, he thought that communication with people on the other side was possible with these devices.
unidentified
He thought that.
art bell
Many other great men thought it.
Many people have experimented with all of this through the years, and there is something to it.
I hope that it's not something like that man just described.
That it's not as dark as he implied that it is.
But we have to allow for the fact that it could be.
I'm a great believer in the work of Dr. Jacobs.
I really am not so sure that even though I've been assured by abductees, many of them, that all is well, that they felt nothing but relaxation and beneficial this and beneficial that.
I understand.
It seems to be a consistent story with abductees, but it does not convince me that the phenomena is benign.
International line, you're on the air.
Good morning.
unidentified
How are you?
art bell
Rather well, sir.
Welcome to the program.
What's your first name and where are you?
unidentified
My name's Monty, and I'm calling from Europe.
art bell
From Europe?
Well, that's right.
You're on the International Line.
Can you tell us where in Europe?
unidentified
I'm not at liberty to discuss that right now.
art bell
All right.
unidentified
I can't do that.
Okay.
What I wanted to reveal to you is the reason why that Yushchenko was attempted, somebody attempted to kill him.
art bell
The poison.
unidentified
Yes.
They found out he was immortal.
art bell
They found out Yushchenko was immortal?
unidentified
Yes.
A conspiracy by the European Union to weed out all of us mortals.
art bell
You're immortal.
unidentified
yes conspiracy that All right, all right, all right.
art bell
Tell me everything you can about being immortal.
How does one become immortal?
unidentified
You're born into it.
art bell
You're born into it, like being born into a royal family, huh?
unidentified
Yes.
art bell
And then what?
You grow to a certain age and stop apparent continued growth?
And in fact, stop?
Or what?
unidentified
It's pretty hard to explain.
I would have to take up most of your show in order for you to understand and everybody would understand.
But basically, we're all given gifts from the beginning of birth.
art bell
If you're immortal, how long have you been alive?
unidentified
I've been alive for 505 years.
art bell
505 years.
You've seen a lot happen.
All of those 505 years in Europe?
unidentified
No, I've been all around the world.
I've seen a lot of changes.
I've seen languages evolve.
I've seen the people, the styles of everything and the politics and the countries come to power and fall.
art bell
I imagine you have seen a lot.
What does an immortal do in a world of mortals?
In other words, in life, I suppose even an immortal life, One seeks a partner in that life, but you would find what?
Other immortals?
Or do you find earthly women and they must come and go in your long livid days?
unidentified
No, you you're it's uh it's a lonely life.
art bell
A lonely life.
Yeah, you don't sound all that fired up and happy about it.
unidentified
No, it's it's a lonely life.
But uh this is my New Year's prediction for 2005.
Immortals will be revealed on this planet within the next six months.
art bell
Well, are you the spearhead of that movement?
unidentified
I'm attempting to uncover a conspiracy within the European Union to uproot and destroy all immortals.
art bell
Well, this is the reason why Yushchenko was mortals would want immortals taken off the face of the earth, I'm sure.
I'm sure.
So that was part of the reason for the poisoning.
Well, it didn't work out, did it?
unidentified
It was to confirm the fact that he is immortal.
art bell
All right.
I do appreciate your call.
Thank you.
So obviously I'm not going to record that.
It can't be recorded.
It didn't come during the official time, but he does say that immortals will become apparent to the world.
unidentified
505 years.
art bell
505 years from Europe.
First-time caller.
Oops.
Special line, you're on the air.
unidentified
Hello.
Hey, Art.
How are you doing?
art bell
Well, it's quite a night.
I'm doing all right.
unidentified
I'm a first-time caller.
I'm going to tell the story the best way I know, Al, and kind of just bear with me a little bit if you can.
art bell
I'm Barry.
unidentified
I got out of truck driving school back in 95, and I was out of school for about eight months and trained with a driver.
And then I got a used to take a lot of runs to Lubbock, Texas.
And there's a highway down there called US1.
It's a real lonely road to Lubbock.
art bell
Yes, sir.
unidentified
And I don't know, it was about 11, 12 o'clock at night, and I caught a bluish, greenish light off to the right of my trailer.
And, yeah, petrified, kind of a young guy at the time.
And I pulled the trailer over to see, you know, exactly what it was.
art bell
Did you have a partner with you?
unidentified
No, no, no, no.
I had done trained with my partner by then.
I was cleared by the company to drive solo at the time.
And so I stopped the trailer, pulled over.
Now, you've got to understand this is one of those two-lane roads that hardly anybody travels on, but all the truckers do to get to where they've got to go because we know it's the quickest route.
art bell
Gotcha.
unidentified
So I pulled it over, got out, and it's hard to explain what happened, but I'll try as best as I can.
This thing, I don't know how to describe it.
I can't describe it, landed.
At this point, I can't even believe I'm out of my trailer at this point because I'm not going to be able to do it.
art bell
Something landed.
So you didn't see a shape?
unidentified
Well, yeah, but it's not like what you hear.
It's not like what you see on TV.
I can't explain it, Art.
I'm just trying to be as honest as I can with you about it.
That's fine.
art bell
No, that's fine, believe me.
unidentified
You know, it's just something I've never seen.
art bell
It's my natural instinct to ask these kinds of questions.
unidentified
Oh, no, no.
It's cool.
If I could try to explain it, I would the best way to say it looks like a football, but not a football.
art bell
All right.
That's something.
That's something, anyway.
So this is something that looks like a football, but isn't lands.
unidentified
I assumed it landed stock.
At that point, I'm trying to figure out what's going on here.
I can't understand what's going on here.
I don't know if I'm dreaming or whatever it is.
So anyway, I don't know if it was a door or something opened up, but a light hit me in my face.
I couldn't see, but I know it's a light.
And you know how you hear stories about they say they talk to you, but they communicate with your mind?
art bell
Telepathy, yes.
unidentified
Telepathy.
That's exactly what happened.
There was no, my mouth wasn't moving, but we were having a conversation.
I couldn't see whatever it was.
art bell
Do you remember the nature of the conversation?
unidentified
The best way I can explain it to you, Art, it's kind of like Christmas.
You know how you get to open up one present a year that night before the first morning?
art bell
Yes, that's well, sometimes.
unidentified
That's the best way I can explain it.
He was like, he said he wanted to show me something, or it, I shouldn't say it, because I never saw it, but it wanted to show me something, and I kind of got the feeling that whatever this was was either A, lonely, or it's real hard to explain, but either it was really lonely or I was special, but I'm not special.
So anyway, I did exactly what it asked me to do.
I came inside.
When I walked in, it's kind of like a you ever go to one of those movies where, I don't know exactly what they call them, but it's like a 3D movie, but it's a dome movie, a dome-shaped-like.
Yes.
Where you sit down in the seats and you can see the whole screen.
art bell
Right.
unidentified
Okay.
Well, it said, I want to show you something.
And the best way, I'm trying to make this as fast as I can because I know you've got a short show.
It showed me exactly what's going on with the Earth.
And what I'm fixing to tell you is probably going to blow your mind.
But you had a talk show on your show about three months ago.
And the gentleman was hide up in, I can't remember if he was in the Air Force and the government or something.
He was talking about how the grays and the blues were fighting between each other.
The blues had made the grays, and the grays became an experiment that went bad.
Anyway, so from what I gathered from this, I guess you want to call it video that I've seen, these flashes, is that these two species are, everything on Earth is a Big chess game.
Everything that we do, how the government's ran, what things are going on, it's the blue and grays fighting between each other.
art bell
It's all so we're like puppets on a string, is what you're saying.
unidentified
Yeah, and it's like the blues are like the good people, and the grays are like the bad people.
The grays want to intentionally hurt, and the blues are like trying to stop something that they know that they've done, and they're trying to stop it.
art bell
Well, you said you knew what was going to happen to Earth.
You were shown what would happen to Earth.
What was that?
unidentified
Art, I know it's probably cheap for me to call up and say to you that I think that if I say it, that it's probably going to scare a lot of people.
And I don't want to go that route with you, but I know it's your show.
So, I mean, if you just tell me the truth, sir.
art bell
What were you shown?
unidentified
Well, what I was shown is that the Greys had lost the war with the Blues.
So the Greys took an asteroid and threw it into the Earth and destroyed the Earth.
art bell
That's quite a show.
That was an intractable future?
unidentified
That was the tractable future, that the Greys had lost the war and that they threw a meteor into the Earth that destroyed the Earth.
art bell
Wonderful.
All right.
Well, in most interesting recent science fiction that I've seen, that would probably be the easiest way to destroy any world.
And that is to say, simply divert something of a magnitude that would erase life right down to the smallest biological entity.
It would just destroy all life.
And you wouldn't have to cook up anything special, no death rays.
Just send something on a slightly different orbit.
That's all.
Wildcard line, you're on the air.
unidentified
Hi.
Hi.
art bell
That would be me.
unidentified
How are you, sir?
art bell
Quite well.
unidentified
And what is your favorite happy?
My name is Pat, and I'm calling from New York City.
art bell
All right, Pat.
Of course.
unidentified
And I'd like to share an experience.
Maybe your participants might have some sort of an answer for me.
I had an encounter.
art bell
Pat, you're going to have to speak up good and loud for me, okay?
Pat?
Speak up good and loud because you're really sorry.
That's all right.
Just.
unidentified
I had an experience August 18th, 1988.
I was going to get some cold medicine for my child at about 10 o'clock at night.
I discovered that I didn't have any more, and he had a cold.
I had gone downstairs and I went outside and I noticed that there was a mist.
Well, for some reason or another, while observing the mist, I happened to look up and I saw something that is to this day the most beautiful thing that I've ever seen in my life.
art bell
This is in the middle of New York City, Pat?
unidentified
Yes.
art bell
Okay.
unidentified
And so I attempted to walk across the street.
Now, I live in an area where there's a four-lane area, traffic going in four different directions.
For whatever reason, I was so enamored by what I was looking at, I attempted to cross the street and I felt the car go past me very quickly.
At that point, I attempted to walk across and I'm still looking at this thing.
And what I see is a huge craft, but it was shaped sort of like black diamonds.
Because this is in the evening, and I'm looking at this thing, and I'm so enamored with it, and I attempt to turn around to say to someone, do you see this?
And what I noticed was there was no people on the street, no more traffic, and I was just stunned.
But I was just so enamored by what I was looking at.
At one point, I started to wish that someone else could see it.
But as far as I could see.
art bell
Pat, I want you to hold on, all right?
unidentified
Sure.
art bell
All right, good.
Stay right there.
We're quite a story.
unidentified
Right in the middle of New York City.
art bell
I tell you, ask for it, and it definitely comes.
This is a doozy.
I'm Art Bell.
unidentified
It is tonight, my body's weak.
I'm on the run, no time to sleep.
I've got to ride, ride like the wind, to be free again.
And I've got such a long way to go, such a long way to go, make it to the road, makes it grow, to my right, like the wind, like the wind.
You showed me how to do exactly what you do.
I fell in love with you.
Oh, it's true.
Oh, you said what you do.
You fell for me too And when I tried it I could see you fall And I decided It's not a trip at
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art bell
Oh, what a night so far.
We've started out with open lines and a special line for anybody who's had actual physical alien contact, and it's been absolutely overwhelming.
It's been incredible.
So we'll continue that.
That line for those only, and I suppose anybody else we can get through on other lines.
Otherwise, open lines and anything you want to talk about.
A surprise a minute, that's for sure.
unidentified
A surprise a minute, that's for sure.
It's not a...
It's not a...
art bell
You know, we have a really cool feature on the website that allows you to send me messages on the computer, instant messages.
And, you know, I watch them, and Dan in Saginaw, Michigan, this is a beauty.
He says, hey, Art, if you or your listeners could help.
This a.m. of 1130.03, I was awakened by a strong, a deep, strong voice, which said simply, you have 910 days left.
I knew this meant to live.
Now, this takes me to the date of 52706.
I'm 33, married with four young boys, and worried.
Anybody ever have anything like that?
That's pretty weird.
As is the story Pat was telling us from New York City.
Pat, welcome back.
unidentified
Hi.
Hi.
Anyway, I'm going to pick it up from where we were.
I remember wishing that someone else could see what I was seeing here.
And at one point, I became a little nervous because I couldn't understand why I couldn't see any people and I didn't see any cars.
We're talking about a four-lane traffic flow that just instantaneously disappeared.
I remember at one point looking across the street, and there was one gentleman standing there.
I ran across the street to this gentleman, and I said to him, do you see this?
Do you see this?
And he was very calm.
He said to me, do you see it?
He said, do you like what you see?
And I said, it's beautiful.
I said, what is it?
He said, well, maybe it's your moon.
And I looked at him and I said, are you kidding me?
I said, there is a new moon that comes down so low that it hovers over the top of a building.
I said, surely.
He says, well, maybe where we come from.
And I looked at him.
And he reached over and he touched my right hand and he said to me, if it feels good to you, go with it.
And I remember looking at him and I was thinking, wait a minute, this guy is a little strange.
And I noticed that his features were very, very sharp.
His skin was almost pale, sort of with a silvery overtone.
And I said to him, guy, you've got to be kidding me.
I said, you mean to tell me you think this is a moon?
I said, you know, I don't know where you're coming from with this.
I said, but somebody else has got to see this.
I shot across the street and I ran into a little store there because, remember, I had come out to get some cough medicine for my child.
Yes.
And I run into the store and I'm frantic and I'm trying to get somebody to come outside with me just so that they could look up and see this that I'm looking at.
art bell
And let me guess, they wouldn't.
unidentified
Actually, they were trying to contain me.
I guess I was so excited.
I guess I was so excited by this that they were immediately just trying to get me to calm down.
art bell
Well, this is pretty unusual because most of these things, you know, occur in the deserts of Nevada and the empty wheat fields of Kansas.
But, I mean, here you are in the middle of New York City, for goodness sakes.
unidentified
Absolutely.
This is why I, to this day, I don't really quite understand.
You know, I tell you from the depth of my being that this is something that I experienced.
I don't know what to make of it.
art bell
I believe it.
unidentified
But it stays with me forever from that point.
And what I did was I said to the guy behind the counter, please, just come with me outside.
Just come with me outside and look up.
And he said, first, I just want you to calm down.
He said, what is it that has you so excited?
I said, please, if you just come out with me, you'll see.
Well, when I finally got this gentleman to come outside with me, lo and behold, Art, there was traffic, there was people, everything was back.
I just was absolutely flushed with embarrassment.
So much so that I forgot to get the cough medicine.
I go back home, and my child says to me, where have you been?
art bell
Yes.
unidentified
And I said, well, I was only gone for a few minutes.
He said, no, you've been gone for three hours.
art bell
Oh, my God.
unidentified
Ask me what happened?
I don't know.
Maybe you guys can sort of enlighten me.
Maybe someone has had a similar experience.
I just know for myself that I will never forget that.
art bell
Well, if you want another big experience, I have a suggestion for you.
unidentified
Oh, I don't know.
I mean, I wasn't afraid.
art bell
Well, I'm talking about an experience.
No, one that's going to help you out with this.
Now, listen to me.
What I want you to do is consider going to somebody for regressive hypnosis.
You can recover those three hours.
You may not want to know, but if you do want to know, it's possible.
unidentified
I don't know if I have that kind of heart.
I really don't.
I mean, I wasn't afraid at the time that I was experiencing it.
Actually, again, it was the closest thing that I could explain what it looked like, have you ever seen black, shiny rock with sparkles in it?
art bell
I guess I have.
unidentified
Well, it was very similar to that, but you have to understand that it covered, you know, I'm not good with numbers or width or depth or anything of that sort, but it covered four lanes of traffic and over both Sides of buildings on the opposite side of the street.
That's how huge this thing was.
And it was just so beautiful until I couldn't take my eyes off of it.
And it seemed the more that I looked at it, the more that it appeared to come down so that I could look at it closer.
And I was trying to rationalize in my mind that, okay, well, maybe it's a blimp.
Maybe it's something from the stadium because this is, it occurred where we have the courthouses in the Bronx.
art bell
Yes.
unidentified
So to me, I'm thinking, well, maybe that's what it is.
But there was no game going on.
art bell
Yeah, that's what the human mind tries to do.
It tries to make sense of what it sees, even if it's impossible.
No, I sure do appreciate your call.
It's right in line with what we've been getting this morning, these calls after calls after calls, from people who are obviously telling the truth.
That lady was obviously telling the truth.
That's all there is to it.
Now, you don't frequently get stories like that, not from the middle of the Bronx in New York, no.
But she sounded totally lucid to me, and I absolutely think she believes what she just told us.
I believe it.
So it's up to you out there of what to make of it, I guess.
On our special line, you're on the air.
Good morning.
Hello.
unidentified
Good morning.
art bell
Yes, good morning.
unidentified
Good morning.
I've never been on the radio before, so.
art bell
Well, there's a first for everything.
What is your first name?
unidentified
Al.
art bell
Okay, Al.
unidentified
Where are you?
Drepping Springs, Texas.
art bell
Do you have a cold?
unidentified
No, I'm asthmatic.
art bell
Oh, okay.
All right, Al.
In that case, just relax.
Tell us what you have to tell us.
unidentified
Okay, I've kind of been listening.
This first time I've ever really turned to your station.
My brother-in-law had told me about it.
I turned in last week.
Of course, we had the tsunami last week, so it was a whole different subject.
I was listening to this lady.
She was talking about these aliens' eyes.
They actually come from a very bright place.
That's why their eyes are so dark.
art bell
Oh.
How do you know this?
unidentified
Well, actually, I studied astral projection.
I kind of went back into the past, you know, traveling back through past lives, past time.
In doing so, I ended up realizing that I come from another planet.
I had went back throughout times in my life to the point to where I got back to where I wasn't here.
I was someplace else.
art bell
Actually, I believe I come from a planet called you figured all this out from doing regressive therapy, going back to prior lives.
unidentified
Well, actually, the alien experience that I had basically give you insight.
And in doing so, you know, you can travel back throughout.
I don't know if you believe in reincarnation, but you can travel back throughout your times that you had been here.
art bell
I do believe in its possibility, yes.
unidentified
Yes.
Okay.
Getting back to the...
art bell
What was the name of the planet?
unidentified
Carolog.
art bell
And you believe you come from this planet?
unidentified
Yes, they're called Carolonians.
art bell
Okay.
But you have a very earthly asthma.
So that was in an entirely different life.
So you're not actually an alien being, but you're in another lifetime.
And there are many, many past life regressive people.
I'm sure you've heard many of them on the program, right?
Who have taken people back through one life, then through another life, and then suddenly, and it's rare, but these past life regressionist people report that in fact it's what that man said is true that people end up going into something that's not recognizable to the therapist perhaps another life form altogether and everything all of a sudden gets indigestible because you can't you cannot understand nor
put to words something that is so foreign and so alien there are not words for it.
Welcome to the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified
Hello.
art bell
Hello?
Going once.
I hear you shuffling around in there, going twice.
Are you there?
Going.
unidentified
How you doing?
Hello.
Hey, how's it going?
art bell
You just barely got on the air, so what did you do?
Put down the phone and walk away?
unidentified
Yeah.
Almost lost it, man.
Sorry about that.
Oh, man.
art bell
What is your first name?
unidentified
Dale.
art bell
Dale.
unidentified
You're out of Lebanon, Oregon.
Is that all right?
art bell
Yes.
unidentified
You bet.
Hey, I got this.
I can believe this.
Back in the 77, 78, when I was a kid, I worked in a gas station, and I was cleaning up one night, and I found this device.
I didn't know what it was.
And it looked like one of those lighting ballasts you find in lighting fixtures, you know?
art bell
Yes.
unidentified
Yeah, okay.
It's kind of shaped like a, well, you know, like you find in the industrial lighting ballasts, like in a big factory or something.
And it didn't have any wires, and it was really heavy.
And I was cleaning up, I moved it, and it was shaped like about 20 inches long, about 4 inches wide, 2 inches deep.
art bell
It was round, right?
unidentified
No, it was square, like a bar of gold.
But it looked like a lighting ballast, like the wires coming out of it.
art bell
Right, right.
Only no wires.
unidentified
Yes, no wires.
And I went to put it back after I cleaned up the place.
Looks like it had been sitting there for years.
And well, I was told later, I found out from my boss that he got this device from a friend who worked in the Chicago Police Department.
I was in the Chicago area at the time.
art bell
Right.
unidentified
And he had it since the 60s.
And he said that his friend told him that this was developed by NASA.
And what it was, Why I asked him was because when I picked it up to put it back in, I grabbed it by the center.
And, you know, it's long, about 20 inches long and 4 inches wide and 2 inches deep all the way across.
You know what I mean?
art bell
Got it?
unidentified
And I went to twirl it like a baton from the center.
And this thing acted like a gyroscope.
I mean, it had, you know, like when you grab a bicycle or something and you try to move it from both ends on the axle.
art bell
Yes.
unidentified
This thing, you could, the faster you twirled it, the harder it got to move.
And I'm like, what is this thing?
So I asked him the next day, and he tells me, well, yeah, I got that from a buddy of mine, and we used to use them on our stock cars.
All the police cars have them in major cities at that time, he told me, and all the highway patrol.
And what they do is they stabilize the car.
They're made by NASA, apparently use them in their rockets or something.
But he said that.
art bell
Well, that's a new one on me.
unidentified
Yeah, I never heard of it.
I'm like, this thing's old, you know, and it's like sheet metal stamps, and it had no openings anywhere.
So you can pull it together or nothing, you know?
art bell
You're telling me there's a device that you can put in vehicles or other things that will stabilize them at high speed.
unidentified
No power supply or nothing.
art bell
Making turns more possible than they were.
This is a technology I've never heard of.
unidentified
I grabbed the ends and tried to twirl it.
The faster you try to twirl it, the harder it was to make it.
art bell
Yeah, I get that.
Unbelievable.
unidentified
I get that.
And he told me this, and he said, oh, yeah, they developed this.
NASA developed this, and they gave it to the police departments, and they said, oh, no, they were going to give it to the public, and they decided not to.
art bell
No kidding.
I wonder.
unidentified
Yeah, man.
Well, that's way cooler.
I asked him, I said, oh, yeah, we're using our stock cars.
We want a lot of races and stuff.
Made the car track true, man.
It's unbelievable.
art bell
Well, they sure are going to the select few then, aren't they?
unidentified
Yeah, so apparently he got it from a friend of his.
I don't know how he got it, but it's just.
art bell
Well, that's a whale of a story.
unidentified
So he had it since the 60s, I estimated, because they had some trophies when they used to race stock cars.
And I was working there in 78.
All right.
art bell
All right.
Got it, sir.
Thank you very much.
Take care.
That's pretty cool, if there really is something like that.
And the properties he described, as he would turn it harder, it would become harder to turn would, if you think about it, apply to the use that he claimed was being used for.
But you would think if the police and certain civilian agencies or whatever knew about this device, that we would all know about it, right?
Wouldn't that be big headlines?
International line, you're on the air.
Hello.
unidentified
Hey, Art.
How's it going?
art bell
It's going all right, sir.
Where are you?
unidentified
I'm in Rochester, Michigan.
My name's Mike.
art bell
Mike, you're on my international line.
unidentified
Yeah, I'm sorry.
I was trying to write down some other numbers, but.
art bell
Okay.
Well, I'm going to have to ask you to.
Well, I'm sorry.
I'm going to have to ask you to call one of the other numbers, Mike.
That's for people outside the country only, like our 505-year-old immortal friend in Europe.
You see, it's very hard for them to get through, so if I don't strictly enforce that, I'm in trouble.
Okay, on our special line, you are on the air.
Hello.
Hello, Art.
unidentified
How are you doing?
art bell
I'm all right, sir.
unidentified
Philip?
art bell
Sounds like you're shuffling the phone in your hand.
You're going to have to hold it steady and speak to me.
unidentified
Let me go ahead.
I'm sorry, I was using a wireless headset.
art bell
Never, ever do that.
unidentified
All right, all right, I gotcha.
But my name's Philip.
I'm calling from Los Angeles.
art bell
All right, Philip.
unidentified
Listening to you on XM 165.
art bell
You betcha.
165 is where we are.
unidentified
Yes, sir.
And I just wanted to tell you something.
I was actually born, this kind of, I'm embarrassed about this for some reason, but I was actually born on an alien world.
Okay?
art bell
That's a good way to start out.
unidentified
You know, and the thing is, I've had contact with other children who were born on alien worlds.
art bell
How do you know, Philip?
It's an obvious question that you were born on an alien world.
unidentified
Because my father is an alien.
His name is Ra.
I'm sorry, maybe I shouldn't have pointed out his name, but he actually lives here on Earth with me.
My mother decided to stay behind on her home world.
And I don't really know how to translate its name to your language.
So the best I could translate is like initials, A, the number two, and M. Okay?
So, anyways, I was born in an alien world.
And when I came here to this planet.
art bell
Well, that makes you an alien.
unidentified
Yes.
Well.
art bell
You are an alien.
unidentified
I guess.
art bell
No guessing.
No, no guessing.
unidentified
No guessing.
art bell
Ra would agree with me.
You either are or you aren't.
unidentified
Yes, okay, I guess you're not.
art bell
I'm a little bit pregnant on this kind of deal.
unidentified
Right.
art bell
All right.
So you are.
From what planet do you originate?
unidentified
Like I said, it's hard to pronounce the name of it.
art bell
Well, that's right.
unidentified
Initial it out A2M.
That's what it's called in your language.
art bell
Well, can you actually say it?
unidentified
I can't.
I could read it.
You know, if you had the text in front of me, I could read it, but I can't really speak the language.
I was taken from the world, my planet I was born on at a very young age.
I guess you guys would consider it like two years old on here on Earth.
Yes.
And so I apologize.
I'm a little nervous about being on the phone.
And so from what I understand, I'm not going to fascinate you with stories of worlds far away because there are lots of other people to do that.
I want to bring something kind of quirky to your show tonight.
What?
Well, children who are born in other worlds, when they come to this planet, humanoids who were either conceived on your planet and then brought back to our planet or other planets for some reason, Philip, it's a great place to hang everybody up.
art bell
I've got to because it's top of the hour.
Can you hold on?
unidentified
I could, yes.
art bell
All right, then.
I'm charging you with holding on.
Stay right where you are.
unidentified
Trust me, we will be right back.
art bell
That's the end of this story from the high desert in the middle of the night.
This coast to coast a.m.
I'm Art Bell.
unidentified
The mountains high and the valleys so deep Can't get across to the other side Don't you give
up, baby Don't you cry Don't you give up, too hard Reach the other side I was lonely, baby I couldn't speak it You're
dirty, baby Get back to my back I love you You're dirty and sweet, I'm mad When this is in the week You've got the teeth that I hide upon you You're
dirty, sweet, and you're my girl Give it up, bang the gun, give it up Give it up, bang the
gun, give it up When you're built like a car You've got a hubcap Diamond star halo You feel like a
car, oh yeah We've grown a hunting We've got some truth We're close to the eagles You're dirty, baby Wanna take a ride?
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From coast to coast and worldwide on the internet, this is Coast to Coast AM with Art Bell.
art bell
And it's a burner.
I'll tell you, even if you've never taken a ride, you're on board with lots of people who have.
Good morning, I'm Art Bell.
We began the program, beginning of the show, by asking for anybody who's had physical alien contact to call our special number, which, by the way, is Carriacook775-7271-222.
Boy, have we been getting some hits.
The End EVP boy, that is what I have got to catch.
Good morning, everybody.
I'm Ardell.
This is Coast to Coast AM, and here, once again, is Philip, whose dad is Raw, who's from another planet.
Yes, anything else you'd like to add?
I didn't want to cut you off there.
unidentified
Well, I just wanted to add, like I said, we wanted to add something quirky to your show instead of telling you tales of far-off worlds and everything like everyone else is doing tonight.
My thing is I've been talking to other kids who have been raised on, you know, who've been born on distant planets, who have been raised here back on Earth.
And they seem to develop really weird eating habits, I've noticed.
I've done some research on this.
art bell
What do you mean by weird eating habits, for example, once?
unidentified
Not really eating habits, just weird desires.
The whole I can tell you, as a matter of fact, the whole pickles and ice cream thing, that originated from kids who were born on distant planets who came back to Earth.
art bell
Nope kidding.
unidentified
It did.
And my thing, when I turned 13, it'll hit you.
It'll hit alien kids at any age between, oh, I'd say about 11 to about 15.
And I'm 21 now.
When I was 13, I had the most unusual craving for maple bacon.
It was really weird.
art bell
All right.
All right.
Weird cravings and pickles and ice cream.
I thought that was reserved away for pregnant women.
Boy, I'll tell you.
Wildcard line, you're on here.
Hello.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, all right.
As I said, Diane from Linwood, the lady that called from New York.
Yes.
I had that experience 20 years ago, and it's taken me 20 years of having more and more experiences to finally fit all together what happened to me that day.
art bell
All right.
Well, that lady impressed me mightily.
I mean, there was just, I don't know, there was something about the way she told her story.
unidentified
Well, you're an expert at listening to stories, so you would know.
art bell
Yeah, it just came through as absolutely real, and it obviously resonated with you.
So what do you mean you had this story?
unidentified
Well, 20 years ago, on my 30th birthday, I went up the street to take my dog for a walk, to this park.
And I was standing in the middle of the park on this baseball field, and I was just looking up at the sky when the next thing I knew, I was across the street from this park, and I knew the streets very well, across the street and up on the hill.
And my back was turned, and I was looking up at the sky.
And I see these three most beautiful colored things.
And they were gigantic.
The one on the left was a ship.
It was a dark ship, and it was just going.
But in front of it was, I guess you would call it a maritime wheel.
And then on the bottom, you know how I can only describe on the bottom of the ship, it was on one of those, like in the 14th century or something, on a stem-like deal.
art bell
Like an old sailing ship.
unidentified
Yes, that's what it was.
art bell
But in the sky.
unidentified
But in the sky.
And then in the middle, and then in the middle, I looked at the middle one, and I thought him to be a king, a king, and he was wearing but a small crown, a small ring, and then at each point was these jewels, and he was looking down at what he was holding, and it was a globe.
art bell
sounds like a cartoon almost.
unidentified
Oh, many of these things, many of these things do.
And then the third thing was about, as I remember, was about five rows of what I thought to look exactly like fractions that I learned in junior high, fractions in a row, all going down.
Now, I said to myself, I said, I heard myself say, does anybody else see this?
And two, nobody else was around.
No cars, nothing.
And then I thought, oh, this is just normal.
We see this every day.
And then I was back in the park.
We had an out-of-body experience.
art bell
Well, you think so?
That other lady said that, yeah, when she got back, the world, the streets, the cars, the buzz of New York City, it was all back.
But during that time, it was all gone.
Same thing.
unidentified
I'll never forget what I saw.
art bell
And you're not suffering from some delusion or it wasn't a dream?
unidentified
No, no, no.
And when I was back in the park, I just walked quietly home, not shaken, but just something that had happened to me.
And then in the 20 years of having out-of-body experiences, I realized that what happened that day.
art bell
Got you.
All right.
Thank you very much.
So she's saying what happened to the both of them was an out-of-body experience.
And I suppose it could be viewed in the way they viewed it, right?
As though they were taken elsewhere.
Well, I guess in a sense, yes, they were.
Out of their bodies to an entirely different what?
Time?
Realm?
Dimension?
I don't know.
And then back.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hi.
unidentified
Hi.
art bell
Welcome to the program.
What is your first name?
unidentified
Sandy.
art bell
Sandy.
Good to have you.
Where are you, Sandy?
unidentified
I'm in Austin, Texas.
art bell
Austin.
Okay.
unidentified
How are you?
art bell
Quite well.
Listening to all kinds of really interesting stories this morning.
Do you have one, too?
Yes.
Do you have one too?
unidentified
Yes, sir.
This happened about 25 years ago.
I put my son to bed.
He was about five years old, and I had gone to sleep.
And all of a sudden, I was like going to this tunnel really, really fast.
And there were these bricks, colored bricks along the side of the tunnel.
art bell
Do you recall, I mean, what were you doing when this began?
You said you had put your son to sleep.
Were you walking, standing, sitting?
unidentified
No, no, I was asleep.
art bell
You were asleep?
unidentified
I had just put him to bed, and then I went to sleep.
art bell
I see, all right.
unidentified
I had gone to bed.
art bell
All right.
unidentified
And all of a sudden, I'm going to this tunnel with all these little colored bricks alongside of it.
They were lit up in different colors.
art bell
Why is this real?
Sandy, why is this not a dream?
unidentified
Because it changed my life.
art bell
All right, go ahead.
unidentified
Before this happened, I was afraid of death.
You couldn't even say casket or cremation to me.
I had such a fear of dying.
And in 1963, on September 11th, my father was killed in a car accident.
Sorry.
And I was really close to him.
And so it really affected me.
And so I was really, really afraid of death and really bad.
art bell
So you had a near-death experience.
unidentified
Yeah, and so anyway, I'm going through this tunnel, and I get to the end of it, and I'm going really super fast, and I'm in a vacuum just being sucked through this air.
And when I get to the end of the tunnel, I just hover, and I'm totally coherent, and there's this big, huge, pale blue, misty circle to the right of me.
And I'm there, and I'm thinking, you know, like, what the heck's going on, you know?
And I could feel the mist on my body.
But then when I looked down, I couldn't see my body.
I had no body.
But I was thinking, coherent, totally, you know.
And then all of a sudden, I was beckoned into this light, this mist.
And as I walked into the mist, it started to open up.
You know, there was like an opening came up, like the wind was blowing the mist apart.
And then it was all open like I was in a room.
Yes.
And on the other side of the room, my father walked out of the cloud into the middle of the room.
And I ran to him, and I jumped in his arms, and I was, you know, really happy to see him.
And I was crying and everything, and I was like, you know, just totally, the feeling I had was indescribable.
It was peaceful, loving, just joy, you know.
And anyway, I was talking to him, and I was just like, you know, daddy, daddy, daddy, you know.
And all of a sudden, all these other people started coming out of the cloud.
And they were relatives and friends that had died.
And I was like, oh, this is just so wonderful.
This is so beautiful, you know.
art bell
It never occurred to you that you might be dead yourself?
unidentified
Well, no, not at the time, because I didn't know a whole lot about near-death experiences at the time.
This was like 25 years ago.
art bell
I know, but just the association of meeting your father who had died and all the other people who had died at that point, you've got to start to say to yourself, if you're really sitting there or standing there thinking rationally, hey, these are all dead people.
unidentified
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Yes, I did.
I did realize that they were dead, yeah.
But it was so, the feeling was so beautiful that it was like, it's just really weird.
And so anyway, my son, who I was real close to, you couldn't pry me away from him.
You know, nothing could have taken me away from him.
And the strangest thing was, while I was there, I said to myself, well, I said I wanted to stay.
I didn't want to go back.
I wanted to stay with my father.
And I said, you know, Damien will be okay.
Damien will be all right.
He'll be well taken care of.
And then this voice from behind me said, you have to go back now.
And I said, no, no, I can't.
I don't want to go back.
and I said, Damien will be taken care of.
Damien will be taken care of.
And all of a sudden, it was like this giant hand reached and grabbed me from the bag and just yanked me out.
And now I'm going backwards back down the tunnel.
And I look over my left shoulder and I see myself laying in bed.
And then all of a sudden there was this big slam and a pop.
And I woke up.
And when I woke up, I was soaked, literally soaked from perspiration.
And I was like, wow, what the heck's going on?
And so I hadn't seen my brother for a couple of months.
And at one point in time in my life, I was seriously contemplating suicide.
And I was really, even though I was scared to death, I was having a bunch of hard times.
And so anyway, I talked to my doctor, and he had never, he didn't know anything about it.
And I talked to a couple of people that were paramedics, and they said that it sounds to them that I was clinically dead.
And then I told them about what happened.
And then one day I was watching TV, this was years later, and this little girl had drowned.
And she was talking about going through the tunnel with the colored bricks.
And I just lost it.
I was like, oh, my God.
But the point is that after this happened about...
No, I was perfectly healthy.
I was perfectly healthy.
I have no idea why I died or how I died.
art bell
Well, I'll tell you, it's a fascinating story, and I thank you for calling.
And it's a classic near-death experience, that's for sure.
But I don't know.
You know, if Matthew Alber were here, you know what he'd say, right?
He'd say that the human's greatest fear is the fear of mortality, the fear of death, that we don't know what's on the other side.
And that any experience like the one the young lady described would be the brain's natural way of protecting itself, or even of, in her case, dealing with her father's death.
So I think you have to take that story, fascinating as it was, and put it in a gray box and say, I don't know.
There's some people in ufology that do that.
I like that analogy.
You kind of take it in the gray box and go, you know, on the one hand, it sounded like a really classic NDE story, didn't it?
But on the other side of the coin, you can see how her brain would have been stressed to produce exactly what she just told us about.
And I don't doubt for a second that she experienced it.
I'm just trying to put together what she experienced.
International Line, you're on the air.
Hi.
unidentified
Well, hello there.
How are you?
art bell
Quite well, sir.
Where are you?
unidentified
I am calling from Water Valley, Alberta, Canada.
art bell
And your first name?
unidentified
It's Al.
art bell
Hi, Al.
unidentified
Hi, how are you?
art bell
All right.
unidentified
Good.
I'm not really going to tell you any stories or anything.
I'm just curious on the curiosity basis here.
Would you, on that hole in Siberia where they heard the hell hole or whatever you want to call it?
art bell
Yes.
unidentified
Would you ever know if they're going to be sending maybe a fiber optic camera or something down there for curiosity's sake, just actually see if anything is going to be happening down the future?
Would you know?
art bell
Oh, sir.
I don't know.
I don't think so.
I really think that the scientists that were there ran like hell, that they probably capped off that hole.
unidentified
Probably.
art bell
And frankly, after hearing it, and you know what it sounds like, I'm sure.
It's been a very long time since I played this.
unidentified
Thank you.
art bell
I don't know, sir.
unidentified
Would you volunteer to go down and take a look at that?
Well, I wouldn't if it was through a camera.
I probably would.
Really?
What I'm kind of, you know, is this does it pertain to this deep or the hollow earth theory?
art bell
I don't know.
You could find out for us.
unidentified
I'm not going to find out nothing, sir.
If someone else finds out off, kudos to them.
art bell
All right.
Thanks.
Just keep thinking about it.
Take care.
West of the Rockies.
You're on the air.
Hello.
unidentified
This is Olin in Culver City, California.
art bell
Yes, Olin.
unidentified
This mad cow disease in Canada might be caused by chemtrails which are spraying aluminum and barium on farmland for weather modification.
art bell
Well, a lot of things might be, but why do you think that might be?
unidentified
Well, you interviewed William Thomas in Canada.
art bell
Oh, yeah, we know that chemtrails exist, and to some degree, we know the makeup of them.
But, I mean, why do you connect it to mad cow disease necessarily?
unidentified
One week before you interviewed William Thomas in Canada, George Norrie interviewed Mark Purdy in Great Britain, and that was on September 7, 2004.
And Purdy said, mad cow disease is caused by barium and aluminum poisoning.
art bell
Ah, all right.
Well, I see then how you reached that conclusion.
I don't know.
I don't know.
But I would say this, if that was the causative agent, then you would think that mad cow would have been detected across wide swaths of America, certainly the beef part of America where they've been noted, and I think we have Not yet detected so much as one case of mad cow in the U.S. Just a wild shot in the dark there.
First time caller line?
Whoops, special line.
You're on the air.
Hello.
unidentified
Hello, Art.
art bell
Turn your radio off, please.
Okay, good.
Hello, Art.
Welcome to the program.
unidentified
Hi, my name is Ron.
I'm calling from Youngstown, Ohio.
art bell
Ron?
Okay.
unidentified
I'm 32 years old now, and I just have a strange, unusual real short story that's going to be.
art bell
You're 32?
unidentified
Yes, sir.
I'm 32.
art bell
Okay.
unidentified
And at the time, I was about seven years old, I think.
And my parents used to send the three youngest of us boys out of the five to my aunt and uncle's up to Connecticut every summer for a summer vacation.
And I'm not real sure how to explain what it was.
But us, my aunt and uncle took us to, my two brothers and I took us to a local lake.
They used to take us to go swimming and just picnicking at.
And my two brothers and I were out in the water.
I didn't quite know how to swim yet.
And the water was about chest high to me.
And my two brothers were out a little bit deeper.
And they were calling me, come on, come on, Iron, come on.
And just being brothers, I know how they are.
And I was afraid to go out because I'm thinking they're going to dunk me and grab me and hold me under and all that.
And I kept saying, no, it's too far out.
And they said, no, look, look how, it was up to their waist.
They were taller than I was.
But what it was, they were on a rock.
And they were just trying to get me to come out there and they were going to mess with me.
And right on the other side of this rock was a really deep drop-off.
And my two brothers kept begging me on, come on, come on, come on.
And I didn't want to go because I knew they were going to do something.
Well, my aunt and uncle ended up calling us in for that, you know, have a picnic, have a sandwich.
And so my two brothers started going in.
And as they started going in, after they got past me, I started going up deeper because I wanted to really see if it was still shallow.
art bell
Hold that thought, Bron.
Hold that thought.
We'll bring you back after the break.
It is coming as inevitably as the sun in the morning.
I'll be in bed by then, of course.
unidentified
You are all the woman I need.
And baby, you know.
You can make this beggar a king.
A clower of boy.
I'll give you all that I want.
You got me standing in line.
I'm in the cold.
Baby, survive.
Baby, shake me any way you want.
As long as you love me.
Friends, I've come to talk with you again because a vision softly creeping left its seeds while I was sleeping.
And the vision that was planted in my brain Still remains within the sound of silence In restless dreams I walked alone Arrow streets of cobblestone Near the middle of a street land I
turned my collar to the cold and damp When my eyes were stared by the flash of a neon light They split the night And touched the sound of silence And in the naked light I saw Ten thousand
people, maybe more People talking without speaking People hearing without listening People writing songs That voices never share No one did Discurb the sound of silence
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art bell
Oh, doesn't music sometimes just set the mood so well?
Good morning, everybody.
I'm Art Bell, and if you just tuned in, you're late.
We began by, I don't know, sort of beckoning with open lines and a special line for anybody who's had actual physical alien contact.
Oh my, what it's brought.
Music Well, all right, back to our first time caller line, which is wide open this night.
Hello there.
unidentified
Okay, well, as we were saying, my two brothers, they were heading back into shore.
art bell
You were getting deeper.
unidentified
Yeah, well, it wasn't that deep, really.
And what it was is there was a drop-off.
There was a real deep drop-off, and my brothers were doing it to scare me.
And they just wanted, you know, just as brothers do.
And, but as me and Uncle were calling us back in the shore for lunch, they, you know, they started heading in, and I started going out a little bit deeper, just seeing if they were telling me the truth, and it still wasn't that deep.
And, well, as soon as I stepped on this rock and I took one more step, I dropped like a rock.
And it was over my head, but I was just, I think, like I said, six or seven, so I wasn't that tall.
And the water wasn't really that deep, but it was deeper than I was tall.
And all I can remember, and I mean, and I can actually remember it like it was yesterday.
And this is the Honest to God's Truth.
And I have a talk told many people about to some family, but not very many people.
But I remember just going straight down into that water and looking up with my eyes open and just seeing the sun through the water and then seeing a figure, a silhouette of somebody coming through the sun, through the sunlight, just reaching through the water and grabbing me by the wrist and pulling me out of the water and setting me back up on top of this rock.
And it was a girl.
It was a young girl.
When I got out of the water, it was a young girl.
And I wasn't scared.
I wasn't panicking.
But as soon as she set me back on top of that rock, I looked at her and I started going to shore.
And I got about five, ten feet, and I turned around and looked.
And there was nobody there.
I mean, there was not one person around.
art bell
Guardian Angel?
unidentified
I don't know.
I do not know.
art bell
Sounds like you were on your way toward drowning.
unidentified
Yeah, absolutely.
I could not swim, and it was a young girl, 12, 13 years old.
But she was there, but she wasn't there.
I mean, it was definitely something that is just strange and unexplainable.
art bell
It's strange and unexplainable.
Did you tell people on shore about it?
unidentified
I didn't.
I went to the side.
art bell
I understand.
I understand.
unidentified
Yeah, but it wasn't like I was, I don't know.
I wasn't trying to hide it.
I just was calm about it, and it was just really strange to me.
And for years and years, I didn't say anything.
And I finally told a couple of my brothers, told them about it.
And I told my mom, and just, you know, but it's not something that I go and talk about all the time.
But it was just something that I am absolutely 100% honest to God know happened to me.
These things do happen.
art bell
It's good enough for me.
unidentified
And it's just it happened.
So people should believe that these things do happen out there.
art bell
Because they do.
Thank you very much for the call.
You see, these are pretty well-grounded people, simply, I guess, willing to tell their stories because other people are telling their stories.
It's quite remarkable how that promulgates, you know, the way it spreads when people hear others telling stories that they normally just wouldn't tell.
It opens them up.
It has a way of just really opening them up.
The similarity of the experiences does that.
Wildcard line, you're on the air.
unidentified
Hello.
How are you doing, Arbel?
art bell
Quite well.
Where are you?
unidentified
I'm calling from the Bay Area, California.
art bell
Okay, and your first name?
unidentified
My name is Jesse.
art bell
Jesse, okay.
unidentified
I have a couple things.
I was with a contracting company.
I do telecommunication.
I do infrastructure cabling.
And we had a bunch of contracts at LaRau Space Systems, Lockheed, and Lawrence Livermore Labs, and Sandia Labs.
And I've witnessed at these job sites that I've been at a lot of laser technology that's been going on.
And I've been in some of these buildings doing the cabling.
And I've seen a lot of, like I say, laser stuff going on where they're working on force fields around Earth to take out comets.
And they're working with a lot of stuff like with atoms.
And they were working with these atoms changing quarters and pennies to different shapes and different sizes.
art bell
Did you saw all this happening?
unidentified
Yes.
I mean, I'd be running cables in some of these buildings.
And I would walk by different rooms where these engineers would be working.
And I witnessed some of the stuff, and I would hear, you know, different conversations.
Yes, and it was in some of the places that I've, the buildings that I've been in were highly secured.
I had to go through extensive background checks.
And I just witnessed a lot of that stuff with moving atoms, moving shapes of the quarters, pennies, stuff like that.
And while I was working there, there was a big conspiracy where a top security official from he was from the CIA, but he ended up being a top security official for Lawrence Livermore Labs and Sandia Labs.
And a Chinese, he started dating a Chinese agent, and a lot of files and keys were missing from Lawrence Livermore Labs where they were doing this technology at.
And I just wanted to share that with you, with the people.
art bell
Well, that's quite something to share.
I mean, if you had to go through all sorts of you feel free to talk about it now, huh?
unidentified
Yes.
art bell
You don't think there'd be any repercussions if they...
unidentified
My bases are covered.
So I don't think there's going to be any repercussions.
But I've noticed a lot of laser technology going on.
Like I've contracted at Lockheed Martin.
art bell
There's a big controversy about lasers now, I'm sure you know.
unidentified
Yeah, but there was a lot of stuff going on over there at the time.
It was in the front page of the news and the newspaper and of files being missing.
This technology is going on over there.
art bell
For example, you're really telling me you heard scientists.
unidentified
Engineers.
art bell
Engineers, all right.
Engineers discussing a protective, I don't know, blanket around the earth to prevent strikes.
unidentified
A force deal where they had a big rock.
They had a big rock with lasers, and they were trying to explode this rock.
And so what they were trying to do, from what I got, is eventually put these lasers on satellites up in space.
These incoming comets, maybe possibly missiles.
art bell
All right.
That's absolutely fascinating stuff.
They called it Star Wars, you know.
That's what they called it, and perhaps that's what you were observing.
Isn't that fascinating?
I wonder if we have a developed, mature technology that could so protect Earth.
And if we did, would they tell us?
Well, probably not, right?
Our government is, don't ever doubt it, built on secrets.
So that kind of thing really could have been going on.
And again, that sounded pretty credible to me.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hello.
unidentified
Hey, Mr. Bell.
How are you doing?
art bell
I'm doing all right, sir.
Where are you?
unidentified
I'm in Niagara Falls, New York, listening to you on 9.30 WBEN A.M. Way to go.
Okay, I've got a question for you.
art bell
Fire away.
unidentified
Last year, you talked to Bob Lazar.
art bell
That's right.
unidentified
And I don't remember what month or anything, but last Sunday you did an encore presentation.
art bell
Of that, yes.
unidentified
Yes.
And he mentioned that he helped a company called Tester on a developer model, which I happen to have one of right here, yes?
Yes, and I was wondering, is there any way that I can get one?
art bell
You know, there is a pretty interesting question.
I don't know if they're still available or not.
I would imagine, I don't know, I'm really not sure.
I don't know the answer to that question.
But go to Amazon or something and put in Tester's saucer.
I don't know if they're still available.
I don't think so, but I don't want to say for sure because I don't know.
Oh, I'm sure you'll find one.
unidentified
Yeah, but where would I look?
art bell
I just told you.
Go to Amazon.com.
Or not Amazon, but what is it?
The auction site.
You know what I'm talking about.
unidentified
Yeah, but that...
I don't understand that thing.
Every time I go there...
art bell
Thank you.
unidentified
eBay.
art bell
Yeah, go to eBay.
Put in Tester's Saucer, and I bet you'll find one.
unidentified
Tester's Saucer.
Sure.
Okay.
art bell
Good luck.
unidentified
I love your show.
And I wish you were on every night.
All right.
art bell
Well, that's very kind.
Thank you very much.
But I did that for many a year.
Oh, many a year.
In fact, many of you wouldn't know, but going back into the 80s, I used to do this program five hours a night, actually sometimes six hours a night, six days a week.
Can you imagine?
West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified
Hello.
art bell
Sound like you're in Switzerland or something.
Get to the phone.
Hurry.
unidentified
Hello.
art bell
Yes, hello.
unidentified
Okay.
Hello.
art bell
Yes, phone lady.
unidentified
Yes.
art bell
Hello.
What is your first name?
unidentified
Monica.
art bell
Monica.
All right.
Where are you, Monica?
unidentified
I am in Palm Springs.
art bell
Palm Springs.
unidentified
Okay.
art bell
And you have called me because?
unidentified
I have over a dozen situations that have occurred in my life where until I've listened to your show, I wasn't really quite sure what they were.
art bell
And now?
unidentified
And before I did believe that they were some sort of alien contact or some sort of something that I didn't understand.
And it was until I've been listening to your show for the last year that I truly believe it is that.
art bell
Alien contact?
unidentified
Well, some sort of contact.
art bell
Based on what?
What happened to you?
unidentified
The first was in 82.
I lived in Brazil, and I had a situation where I was 17 at the time, and I even called my parents because they were away at the time.
And I said, I think a spacecraft has landed on our roof.
art bell
In Brazil.
unidentified
Yes.
And at the time, the maid, the chauffeur, everybody was asleep.
And when I went to go even check with the security guard, he was knocked out.
And it was the lights and everything.
And when my father finally came home, he said the following day, he said, don't worry, it was the water heater that exploded on the roof.
Oh.
And it was only until...
art bell
I mean, do you think you have had experience with alien beings?
unidentified
Well, after that, I had a slice in my belly below my belly button on the left side after that time.
And then every couple years, I had a similar sort of experience.
art bell
All right.
Well, it sounds to me as though you ought to go to somebody who can try and figure out what happened to you, maybe do a little regressive hypnotherapy, that kind of thing, and nail down what really happened to you.
But you are one of, dare I say, millions, based on the phone calls this morning, not that heavily solicited, I might add.
An awful lot of people have had these experiences.
I mean, just millions of people.
If this is just a sample, a little sample of what we're getting this night, then it is millions of people.
And it's a phenomena worth careful, scientific examination.
International line, you're on the air.
Hello.
unidentified
Hello.
It's Jason calling from Vancouver.
art bell
Hello, Jason.
How are you doing?
unidentified
Hi, yeah.
Am I on the air?
Yes.
art bell
Oh, yes.
You're on the air.
unidentified
I've been listening for about eight or nine years.
I've never called in before.
art bell
Welcome.
unidentified
Yeah, I just want to tell you a little story about something that happened to me about six, seven, maybe seven or eight years ago.
Okay.
I was diagnosed with schizophrenia about around that time.
I was riding on my bike with two friends down a street in my neighborhood, and I had a vision that I was on a horse, and I had a torch, and I had gone back in time.
art bell
Well, let me interrupt here for a second and ask you if it's around the time that you were diagnosed with schizophrenia, then.
unidentified
Well, I got diagnosed shortly after that, actually.
art bell
So, you're telling me this experience caused you to be so diagnosed.
You obviously talked about it, right?
unidentified
Yeah, well, there was a lot of things that were starting to happen around this time, actually.
I was starting to think that I could read people's minds and stuff like that in the neighborhood.
And I was kind of walking around and taking people on these tours and showing them different power sources and stuff.
Like, there were certain placements in the city where I could pick places of power out.
Like, it was one instance, there was a restaurant, this Dairy Queen, and has a view of the mountains and where the water, it's kind of on a peak area where you can see into the inlet, into the mountains.
And I was taking people on these different power, these different tours where there was different power sources.
There was just a few situations.
But I guess I never really heard anyone talk about mental health on your show.
art bell
All right.
Well, we're doing that now.
And, you know, there is a place for this discussion because some of these things obviously do cross the line.
Now, I guess it's the job of the researchers and the scientists who damn well ought to be looking into all of this to make that decision about when it does cross the line.
And some of it is not real.
Some of it is a product of an ill mind.
But then obviously, if you've listened carefully through the night, you know that much of it is not.
Much of it is seen, recorded, experienced by very sane, grounded people.
So you've got to sort through it all.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hi.
unidentified
Hi.
art bell
Hello.
unidentified
My name is Donna.
art bell
Donna, we don't have a whole lot of time, so where are you?
unidentified
I'm in Lincoln, Nebraska.
art bell
And what happened to you, Donna?
unidentified
Okay, in 1993, when my husband and I got married at the judge's chambers here in Lincoln, right after we got done with the ceremony, we were talking to the judge.
There was like little gold flecks, you know, real pale, like gold that floated down.
art bell
Really?
unidentified
Yes, and the judge said, you know, I've never really seen this before.
art bell
Well, we're going to end this tonight on an up note, I can tell.
So describe it again.
A little gold.
unidentified
It was just like, you know, there was little gold flecks, like a little glitter falling.
art bell
Just from the sky.
Or was it inside?
unidentified
It was inside in the judge's chamber.
art bell
See, that's even more impressive.
unidentified
And he said, well, my goodness.
We were just looking at it.
Of course, we were happy, so we were smiling and everything.
Of course.
art bell
And now, has it all worked out well?
Have you lived happily ever after?
unidentified
Well, we've had our trials and tribulations, but yes, we're doing just fine.
art bell
Well, little gold flecks at such a moment is a good omen, my dear.
Listen, I've got to go.
We're out of time.
Thank you very much.
unidentified
Thank you, fine.
art bell
It's been such a pleasure spending the weekend with you, and here's the gal with just the right words to take us out of here from the high desert, where we do biz in the middle of the night.
Good night.
unidentified
Good night in the desert, shooting stars across the sky.
This magical journey will take us on a ride.
Filled with the longing, searching for the truth.
Will we make it to tomorrow?
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