Art Bell’s Open Lines: The End of the World episode explores apocalyptic theories—callers cite 160+ tornadoes in 2004, Saudi-Iraq conflicts, and DARPA’s hidden knowledge of catastrophes like asteroids or germ warfare. Stephen from NY shares a terrifying superbug outbreak, while Robert claims WWII-era extraterrestrial crashes and Mark from Kansas links pornography to Iraq’s chaos. Yellowstone seismic risks, BPL tech failures, and biblical prophecies (e.g., "sixes" in numbers) fuel debates, with Joe from MN suggesting a Chinese lab-engineered pandemic. Bell leans toward human self-destruction—warfare, infrastructure collapse, or reckless science—as the most probable end, dismissing divine intervention while acknowledging civilization’s fragility. [Automatically generated summary]
In the middle of the program last night, it occurred to me why have I never asked the following question.
Heaven knows, we've outlined various ways that it may occur.
I'm talking about the end of the world.
And so the question is, how do you think the world will end?
And we really have.
I mean, over the years, we have outlined every conceivable way that the world might end.
Everything generally has a beginning and an end.
And so I thought all of it just hit me like a block.
That's going to make a great question for everybody out there and a good one for open lines.
So let that one caress your skull.
Otherwise, anything of great interest to the audience would be appropriate.
But if you have an answer to that question, then so be it.
Let us look at the world.
Oh, there is one thing.
The weather.
Oh, my God.
I'll tell you what.
Go to a place called LightningStorm.com and take a look at what's going on across the nation right now.
In fact, let me look myself at the current map.
It's totally incredible.
I flipped on the radio and was talking to a few people just before airtime.
The static levels were absolutely out of this world.
And it's certainly understandable.
I mean, when you take a look at the absolutely incredible line of storms that goes virtually from Texas, and I'm talking about supercell storms, that goes from Texas all the way up just about to the Canadian border, and maybe across the Canadian border, for all I know, certainly up to the Great Lakes.
God help those of you who are at the leading edge of this.
Now, there have been, over the last day or so, about 100 tornadoes.
100 tornadoes.
And it looks like tonight is a continuation of this vicious front tearing across the midsection of the U.S. And so if you're in the middle of that mess right now or about to be, I would love to know what's going on and how you're faring.
But it's going to be a night of terror for a lot of people, already is a night of terror for a lot of people in that part of the country.
It has been awful.
Let's see.
It says, tornado-laden storms continued battering the Midwest Sunday, destroying dozens of homes in this town, Marengo, Indiana, and tearing the roof off an Indianapolis nursing home.
Several people injured by the weekend's tornadoes, which killed, by the way, an elderly man in Marengo, and then three people in Missouri and ripped through parts of Nebraska and Kansas.
High wind blamed for a fourth Missouri death, and then two in Kansas.
And again, looking at the map tonight, yikes.
in a moment some more or the rest of the world news you you Thank you.
All right, there was a lady that was on last night that was precious.
I mean, she was all right.
And she called suggesting the way to save the world was to put grow lights on the moon.
And I don't know why it caught me as funny, but it did.
It was a riot.
And then, sure enough, today somebody sent me a picture.
It's on my web.
Go to www.coastocoastdam.com, upper left-hand side, arts webcam.
Click on that.
And I forgot to save the email to give credit to whoever did this.
Here's a guy sitting on the beach on a rock, you know, just kind of passing the time of night, actually.
And above him, here's the moon with grow lights.
So if you wanted a visual for what the moon would look like with grow lights, baby, there it is up on my webcam.
Take a look.
All right.
The news, always bad.
Saudi troops free hostages after attack at some cost.
Helicopter borne Saudi commandos drove al-Qaeda militants from an expatriate housing complex in the kingdom's oil hub Sunday, ending a shooting and hostage-taking spree that left 22 dead, most of them foreigners.
Police were hunting for three assailants believed to have escaped after the attack, the worst terrorist attack on Saudi soil in a year.
I wonder what the Saudis are doing to tick off al-Qaeda.
That's an interesting question.
Two killed in attack on convoy in Baghdad.
The bad news continues from there, of course.
Assailants ambushed a convoy of Brits on a northern Baghdad highway Sunday, killing one Iraqi security guard and a bystander.
Officials and witnesses said U.S. soldiers came under fire in a Shiite holy city as an agreement to halt fighting There obviously is unraveling.
Two American soldiers wounded in clashes around the holy city, Najaf.
Fighting erupted Sunday night in Najaf's twin city, Kufa.
And Shiite militiamen accused the Americans of firing near the main mosque, damaging its outer wall.
While this is interesting, the speed with which U.S. ground forces captured Baghdad and the prominent role played in Iraq by U.S. commandos have led China to rethink how it might counteract the American military in the event of a confrontation over Taiwan, according to the Pentagon.
The Chinese also believe, partly from its assessment of the Bush administration's declared war on terrorism, that the U.S. is increasingly likely to intervene in a conflict over Taiwan or other Chinese interests, according to Pentagon analysis.
A vicious skin eruption, resistant to all but the most powerful antibiotics, has jumped out of New York City hospitals and onto the streets there.
The superbug, as health officials call it, can cause anything from reddening of the skin to abscesses, tissue loss, amputation, or even death in severe cases.
For decades confined to hospitals where it preyed on patients and built up immunity to antibiotics, the bug known officially as methicillin-resistant strachococcus, something like that, has grown in strength, usually with infections.
You need a break in the skin to pass it, according to the doctor, who has a private practice in Chelsea.
Not with this, though, he says.
It gets through unbroken skin with casual contact.
Want to shake hands?
The City Department of Health first detected the infections outside the hospital early last year, according to health officials there.
Doctors at some clinics, such as the Callan Lord Community Health Center in Chelsea, are seeing one new case a week now, compared with one every two months when the infection first cropped up.
Last month, Stephen, who asked his name not be published, developed what he thought was a pimple on his leg, but soon it grew painful and, I might add, quite some bit larger.
Doctors lanced the boil that formed and began antibiotics, but the infection laughed at the antibiotics, failed to respond, and began growing towards Stephen's groin.
The fact it wasn't responding to drugs and it was moving up that way was terrifying, said he.
It was eating up tissue.
After a lengthy hospital stay and five antibiotics, some administered intravenously and one administered orally at $100 per tablet, and I'm sure from Stephen's point of view, well worth every penny, the infection finally began to abate.
New York gets everything.
And then this from Columbia, Missouri.
Hey, Art, looks like the coming superstorm might already be here.
I live in Kansas City for the first 38 years of my life.
And yesterday, they had what I believe to be the largest tornado in the area.
Yesterday in Platte, that's Platte County, Missouri, near the city of Weatherby.
They recorded a tornado over one and one-half miles in diameter.
Weatherby is slightly north and east of Kansas City proper art.
Since you're going to be on tonight, I'd be glad to provide confirmation concerning this tornado.
You don't need to, buddy.
I saw it on CNN.
So the weather going on out there is absolutely incredible.
Just absolutely incredible.
So I would obviously love to hear from some of you in the affected areas.
Now, we've promised open lines and we have a full night coming up exactly.
Again, how do you think the world is going to end?
Perhaps not by fire.
Perhaps not by ice.
Perhaps by rock.
Perhaps one of these little infections like the one we just discussed in New York will simply finally become immune to the last possible defense we have in the form of some sort of antibiotic and just go raging across all our bodies.
I don't know.
There's a million different ways it might occur.
And you don't want to miss the moon with grow lights.
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So if you get a chance, go up there and take a look at that.
Can you imagine having all of these shells ready to go and wired up electrically?
And I can tell you these wires in the middle of an oncoming thunderstorm, you're liable to have your display all at once and very unexpectedly.
East of the Rockies, you're on air.
Hi.
unidentified
Hi, Bruce in Toronto.
And I was going to mention a little bit about the end of the world, but I just wanted to kind of confirm what your last caller was saying about the weather being about a month behind where it usually is.
It's still pretty kind of not very warm up here at this time of the year.
And it seems like for the last three years, at least the shorts and t-shirts weather doesn't really kick in until at least the second week of June.
If all human beings are gone, then the world is over for us.
So if you want to take it from that point of view, be my guest.
unidentified
No, well, I would take it from the point of view because, I mean, we may be just part of the passing parade, and I'm sure there will be life that would come after us.
For you, let us define it as the end of the world.
Literally, completely for human beings.
unidentified
Well, I would say literally and completely the end of all life on Earth.
And if you asked Michio Kaku about it, he would probably tell you that, I don't know, in several hundred million years, or maybe a billion or something, the sun is going to run out of fuel and it's going to expand into a red giant, which means the outer atmosphere will totally consume the planet Earth.
not totally and completely and and you think will go those billions of years without getting hit by an asteroid going off to Gotcha.
All right.
So we're asking tonight, you folks, how you think the world will end, if you think it will, from the high desert in the middle of the night, I'm Art Bell.
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I haven't seen any photographs, but then again, I haven't seen any stories saying it died.
So yeah, where are the photos?
unidentified
Right, right.
Okay.
My second thing is, how come we're getting all these warnings right now from the U.S. government, warning about Al-Qaeda?
I mean, it seems kind of funny when 9-11 happened, we're getting all this stuff that there were no warnings, and all of a sudden, now we're getting warnings this time.
Is it to probably save somebody's job maybe or something?
Well, the last 30 seconds of that call, and the part that you didn't hear, was simply filled with screaming at the very top of his lungs.
He screamed in such a blood-curdling way.
And, of course, at that point, I actually thought that was going over the air, but the satellite had done its thing, and it didn't.
You only heard a little bit of it.
The rest of it was all screaming, sir.
unidentified
Well, you know, let's draw the connection here.
Synchronicity.
Call Jan.
I believe in it firmly, fully.
I've seen it demonstrated on and on over the years.
And for that to occur on September 11th, and then for September 11th to happen, coupled with the fact that the dream I had the morning of, the morning of, I'm prepared to fly, I'm going out to McCarran, going to San Francisco on business.
I wake up, I'm having this dream, I'm like standing down at the bottom.
I thought it was World Trade Center.
There's this girl standing next to me.
She keeps laughing.
I said, what's going on?
What's going on?
There was a plane sticking out of the building.
Look at a cartoon.
And she said, Harry Houdini did it.
Harry Houdini did it.
I hit snooze.
I go back.
Next thing you know, I'm on top of the building.
Same girl looking down, saying the same thing.
Well, as we all know, Houdini symbolizes a trickster, a magician.
Well, that thing was, unfortunately, as it seemed.
You should have seen all the email that I received because of a caller last night.
That's another topic we can take up if you really want to tonight.
I'm not in any way afraid of it.
I'm happy to talk to you about it.
The lady called and was in the middle of trying to convince me or tell me that the secret government slash the shadow government slash whatever you want to call it was responsible for 9-11 and that our government was complicit in the whole thing.
Something I totally don't buy, but if you really want to spout that stuff, you can come and give it a shot.
But I don't believe it for a second.
I think that 9-11 was exactly what it appeared to be.
And, you know, it could turn out there would be some facts about it we didn't know.
Like, for example, maybe the plane that was headed toward the White House, well, maybe it was shot down.
Maybe it was.
Who knows?
And maybe there are some other facts that we don't know.
And of course, the 9-11 Commission is on the way with all of this.
But I don't for one second, not for one second, do I believe that our government was complicit in 9-11.
But I can tell you a lot of people do.
And before this night is out, you will hear from them.
I do agree that I think the most likely scenario is by our own hand, one way or the other, by our own hand.
And I do understand that mad or mutual assured destruction, which it definitely is, has prevented, until this moment at least, a nuclear exchange and nuclear holocaust, and virtually the end of the world, perhaps as described best by On the Beach.
Remember that?
Those of you that saw either the original or the revised and newer edition, both were very, very good.
I've got a total of 13 towers up to hold the antenna.
unidentified
Good.
Dad used to run it on one tower off of the garage and called all over the world.
But he's on silent keys right now.
What I want to say is I believe in the quantum physics principle of the burrito for time.
Excuse me.
For time.
Yes.
And that I believe that what you see, what you've talked about in the past, that these aliens are actually us coming back from the future under that principle.
If there ever is to be time travel, and assuming we don't blow ourselves off the face of the earth, then we should be getting visitors from our future.
And for all I know, we are.
unidentified
Right.
And the other thing is this past winter, I spent in a winter rental down in Sandwich by the Cape.
Yes.
We had a lot of giant tankers that came in from Monrovia in Russia.
Yes, and we had lots of ice chunks that washed up.
They hadn't done that for, I guess, 30 years.
And also, the new tunnel that goes through Boston, when they built it, they were told by the workers that they weren't doing it properly to stop the leakage.
The contractor wouldn't allow them to fix it at that time.
So now they're going to have to go back in and redo it so that it won't flood.
Yeah, you know, Art, I, oh, by the way, the Grow Lamps on the Moon's great.
But anyway, yeah, you know, I looked at this starting right here at home, okay?
You looked at one.
Considering the end of the world, how would it end, okay?
Yes.
So I live in a county that has about 25,000 people.
And I've been here 12 years, and in that length of time, I either knew casually or fairly well five suicides.
And one of them was a murder suicide.
I've known kidnappings and murders.
They run a roster in the local paper here.
And this is 25,000 people.
Our neighbors can get along with each other, right?
And I'm looking at this and I'm saying, gee, if this is the way it is with an area that's supposed to be, you know, relatively friendly, I says, how would it be worldwide or how about nationwide?
And then I was listening, I think it was probably your show.
Yeah, and then your archaeology has met some of these fellows have been mentioning that they found glass in, you know, they dig down and they hit glass in, what is it, Pakistan, India, and I think somewhere in South America, which says long, long time ago, it was all melted.
Now, what do you think that means?
And do you think we've learned anything since then?
They were a higher level of civilization way back thousands and thousands of years ago, and then we declined, and here we come back up again.
You know what?
I predict in the future, y'all probably be on my lifetime, that we're going to do it again.
Well, you mentioned the very deep holes, and here's an opportunity to do it.
The Russians, as you know, drilled a hole in Siberia, and they went down farther than man has ever drilled a hole into the ground before.
And there is an Associated Presser, no, a Reuters story that supports all of this.
Reuters wrote a story about it.
And years ago, somebody sent me of what the Russian scientists recorded when they lowered a microphone into this hole.
And I've had this all these years, and I've had an awful lot of emails lately asking to play it again, and I'm going to do that.
This is pretty chilling stuff.
Needless to say, Reuters said that after hearing the following recording, and heaven knows, we may not even have all of it, but after hearing this, the Russian scientists quit work, they capped the whole thing off, and went away.
No, I believe that by the time humanity gets to a point where we will have to take that into consideration, we will have evolved technologically and culturally to a point where we'll be able to conquer anything that is thrown at us, whether it be an environmental catastrophe or something that is a socioeconomic issue.
Danny, do you think that we will eventually evolve and leave our physical bodies altogether, evolve out of our physical bodies into pure beings of energy and light?
unidentified
Well, that certainly is a fascinating concept.
However, I'm more inclined to remain in the materialist tradition, and I just think that our mind will get to a point where we'll have all the energy of the universe at our disposal.
We'll be able to harness the power of black holes.
Hey, remember last night we were talking about Yellowstone?
Listen to this Salt Lake City magnitude 7.9 earthquake that rocked Alaska in 2002, changed the activity of geysers in hot springs more than 3,000 kilometers away.
The Denali Fault earthquake on November 3rd, 2002, is one of the strongest of its type in North America in the last 150 years.
Researchers said it triggered smaller quakes in Wyoming's Yellowstone National Park.
Now, researchers have found the quake also changed the timing and behavior of some of the geysers and hot springs at Yellowstone.
Seismologist Robert Smith of the University of Utah and his colleagues monitored 22 of Yellowstone's 10,000 geysers during the winter of 2002 and 2003.
Several small hot springs not known to have geysered before suddenly surged into a heavy boil with eruptions as high as one meter.
The temperature of one of them rose from 42 to 93 degrees centigrade and became much less acidic.
Another hot spring that was usually clear became muddy.
Smith suspects the quake's waves chained water pressure to the geysers, and I wonder what else.
This program has laid out examples of how the world might end over the years.
It has done it again and again and again.
And so tonight's question is, ever so simply, how do you think the world will end?
And we've had a myriad of answers so far.
Dominating thus far, though, would be man's own hand, you know, by throwing the switch.
Man, oh man, if a tornado siren, you know, they don't set off the sirens generally until somebody's spotted one on the ground, more or less headed in your direction, right?
unidentified
That's exactly what it was.
It was just a few, I think Norwalk was a town south of us is where it had touched down, that it was spotted.
You know, on the one hand, you would tend to reject the notion because it's such the traditional picture of hell, the center of the earth populated by those suffering souls screaming in all of eternity as they burn, burn, baby, burn.
I don't know if I buy into that.
But it is chilling.
And, you know, I really hope it's not true either.
But they did run the story, and that is exactly the audio described.
And, you know, can I know that's the real audio?
No.
But it was sent from a very good source, which accompanied that story.
It's going to be then, you're going to be found by some archaeologist in the future, like 10,000 years from now, with a Big Mac hanging from your mouth, you know.
All right, well, listen, I appreciate your call.
Thank you very much.
Look, don't ignore sirens.
I don't know what's about these people.
If sirens go off, that's a serious warning, folks.
That means somebody has seen a tornado or they've spotted it on radar and there's one out there.
And so you don't just ignore and go on with whatever you're doing.
Well, I do have the telescopes we're talking about in the radio and on my solar panels.
I was doing some work on the solar panels, and I have a relatively small system, and I looked up, and I was reading over 500 watts more than I've ever seen before.
And I ran down, and I went and flipped on the moon bounce array on 432 and wheeled it around across the sun, because we use that to check sun noise in our system.
Yes, there were a number of rather outspoken women that called during that program that frankly found the professor's scenario not only pleasing, but not happening quick enough for their taste.
First time caller line, you are on the air.
unidentified
Hello.
Hello, Mike Collin from Minneapolis.
Hey.
Hey, and I got some information some people might be interested in here about the end of the world.
You can only, or I mean, you can't be destroyed by plants because you have all the defense shields up by then anyway, like the Death Star and all that.
You're not going to be destroyed by that.
You're immune to extinction.
So at that point it becomes a mute conversation because there is no more end of the world except for one more way and that's the fourth way.
In any case, I have four things to talk about very quickly.
First of all, I don't have any really insight into this, but I suspect that the end of the world will come by some bacterial method, whether it's induced by a terrorist or perhaps natural.
How do we know when it comes to the power of the mind and the power of mass concentration and millions of minds working on any single thing what the unintended consequences, even of something like the freezing a pool, for example?
That sounds relatively benign, right?
But what if something goes wrong?
And God, I don't know.
You know, I mean, just throw out, there's a family swimming in the pool at the time.
They're stopped, right?
They're frozen.
And to a degree, I'm kidding.
What if we miss?
What if we do freeze one of the Great Lakes?
Or what if the whole thing backfires and it just cools the atmosphere in a place where it ought not, and some horrible storm occurs?
What I'm trying to say is we don't know what we're doing in this area.
And until we do, I think that experiments with this kind of thing are reckless.
And I think that to some degree I behaved recklessly in doing that many experiments at all.
I began to realize, oh, this is a real power.
But we don't know what we're doing with it.
And I think it's irresponsible to wield that kind of power when you really don't know what you're doing.
And in several cases, for example, areas that have not received rain, we produced rain all right, but that, you know, it was followed by flooding.
And this kind of thing gets your attention.
So I'm going to take it easy on that until I know more.
West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hi.
unidentified
Hi, Art.
Cannon Anchorage.
Hey.
Hi.
If I could change the subject from all the doom and gloom for a minute, I have a question for you.
Sure.
Once upon a time here, not too long ago, I found myself in a law enforcement capacity on the local Air National Guard base.
It was in concurrence with yours and Ramona's trip to Alaska.
One beautiful do-nothing evening, we received a call of personnel in civilian clothes in our restricted area, both smoking cigarettes and taking photographs.
Which as an ex-Air Force person, you might understand that smoking and taking photographs in an aircraft area is a dono.
Well, we responded out there and didn't find anybody.
And then about a week later, a photograph come across my computer that was taken on our north ramp of someone who appeared to be Art Bell standing in the middle of two of our fly guys smoking cigarettes and grinning like, fool.
I've got the pictures by the helicopters standing right there looking mean as hell.
That was a lot of fun.
All right, sir.
Thank you very much.
That was me, all right.
And Ramona was there as well.
So we were probably the unknown intruders.
From the high desert in the middle of the night, I'm Art Bell.
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I used to subscribe to the idea of fire and ice and destruction and all that stuff, but recently I've come to a conclusion that there's going to be a shift in consciousness.
It is a state of war at this point, you know, but how are we going to come out of this?
Are we going to join hands and are we going to...
I don't know.
I really, I want to have hope and I want to hold out.
I mean, within the past year or so, I've been noticing a lot of synchronicity and a lot of things happening, all having to do with my personal state of consciousness, you know?
And if we can change the way that we think toward each other, you know, not believe in mass hype that's going on, even though it is happening, I'm not saying that it's not happening, but why can't we change it?
You know, you talk about the experiments that you've done over the past few years.
Yes.
And maybe that wasn't right.
You know, maybe it was irresponsible.
But why can't we use this media and this tool that we have, the internet, and the consciousness that is growing?
Why can't we use that to the tool we don't understand well enough to use, in my opinion, yet, it's best for the moment left in the universities where it's being studied.
That's not to say that backed up against the wall, and I've said this before, you know, if we were really backed up against the wall and something was going to do away with us, well, I would not hesitate for one second.
I mean, if a giant rock were said to be headed toward the earth or something of that magnitude, I'd be on it like a cheap suit.
All over it.
And we'd have all of you pushing that rock as hard as we could because at that point, what the hell, right?
Otherwise, though, short of that kind of catastrophic possibility, I think that the use of that is not well enough understood and that there could be dire consequences.
First time, caller line, you are on the air.
unidentified
Hello.
Hello, Art.
Yes.
Hi, my name is Dennis, calling from Livonia, Michigan.
you must be conducting your life in some certain way.
I mean, what you have just described is an abysmal, horrible, multiple-punch kind of Well, it doesn't say anything about a polar flip.
unidentified
Well, what it does, it describes the things that happen in the polar shift.
And if you listen to the warnings that Garaband del Spain, the three peasant girls in the 60s that were given a vision of the Virgin Mary, she said that there's going to be a warning, a miracle, and then a cataclysm or catastrophe, a cleansing.
You just sort of attached that one on, the pole flip.
unidentified
Well, no, in addition to that, they said that there's going to be a celestial event that's going to appear as two stars hitting each other or a star hitting a planet.
There's going to be a celestial collision.
And I believe that the Nibiru or Planet X or whatever you want to call it is going to come flying by.
You know, it kind of hit me during the program last night that all these various people we've had on, from scientists to people, intuitives, to remote viewers, to archaeologists,
to, well, like my guest last night, all of them talk about cycles in the same range, 11,000, 13,000 years right in there, cycles that sort of cleanse the planet and, you know, like hitting a reset switch or something.
Personally, I think it's going to be our own hand, a scientist inventing some new totally resistant bug.
So the first sound of the end of the world might be it.
Let's say we will probably enter a serious problem with the ice age, asteroids, war, and possibly germ warfare for population.
Well, not population control, but let's say the possibility because of, let's say, broken facilities that certain viruses and germs would probably be exposed to the public after such great devastation.
Why do I have this feeling that you're telling us more what you know as opposed to what you're guessing?
unidentified
Well, I'd say I lost my ticket to a facility, so I'm looking for a new home because I'd prefer to at least let the world know instead of let them be blindsided.
I prefer someone to be prepared, look, you know, look and try to prepare for the worst, but hope for the best.
If somebody were to ask you your opinion of whether extraterrestrial craft have crashed on Earth, what would your opinion be?
unidentified
Well, I'd say yes.
And also, my grandfather, when he dealt with intelligence as a biomedical scientist during World War II, he actually told me that when I was a child they exist.
And sometimes you have to abide by the other nation's agreements in that society because they're a little bit more powerful and touchy about those things.
Well, I wrote to Harry Reid, who is one of my senators here in Nevada, and I also got an answer.
And Harry and I do know each other a little bit.
I interviewed Harry on the air, and he gave me a pretty good answer.
So I'm hoping, you know, it may be that BPL is inevitable, but it also may be that they will clean it up so that it doesn't clobber the public services that otherwise are going to be clobbered.
So crossfingers knock on wood, you know?
unidentified
I just thought it was the stupidest thing I've ever heard of.
When you consider all of the possible ways that Internet can be delivered, and what really should be going on, of course, is that we put fiber to people's homes, and then that's the end of the story, period.
But no, and then there is microwave, and there's a cable will deliver Internet, and there's a biased DN and all these different ways you can get Internet, and they've got to go radiate it off the damn power lines and destroy communications.
We're trying to do whatever we can to get people to understand that other nations around the world have thrown this idiotic technology the hell out of their country, including the Japanese, who know what they're doing.
And we should do exactly the same thing or tame it to the point that it does not destroy emergency communications across America.
Come on.
West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hi.
unidentified
Yeah.
I have a comment to make in regards to all this talk about the Gulf War that nobody seems to be talking about, and that is the economic arrangement Halliburton actually has and the details behind that in regards to this war.
Everybody talked about this war being a war that never ended because the war on terrorism is not actually a country, so there would be no way to determine when this war ended.
And it's actually set up to where there's only like a 1.2% profit margin, but it's a guaranteed 1.2%.
So as much as they up the ante of the actual cost of the war, the more money they're making, which is very important.
How are we going to know when the war on terror is over, how are we going to know that we won?
I mean, is it like cancer where five years have to go by and nothing happens, and then you say, well, probably we got it or what?
unidentified
That's the way you have to see the way this economic arrangement is is reflective and emblematic of what this war really means.
That these kind of companies, these transnational corporations, are going to get set up with these never-ending accounts.
They're going to be low profit margins, so people aren't going to be very suspicious because 1.4% profit margin isn't very high unless it's guaranteed and it never ends, which means it's a continuous cycle which leads into slavery as far as I'm concerned in the final outcome.
Well, even the New York Times recently admitted that they were deficient in the way they examined the evidence that they reported on with regard to the so-called weapons of mass destruction, which of course was the main stated reason for invading Iraq.
That's the New York Times saying officially, really, from their point of view, look, we didn't do our job.
We didn't look at enough facts in our reporting of the whole thing.
Well, because there's so many planets and so many suns and so many systems for there not to be intelligent life out there seems nigh on to impossible to me.
unidentified
And I also heard that this guy had a theory that the planets are all cells.
Do you think then, just before the Russian president, in a moment of madness, presses the button, those benign spirits would grab his arm and stop him?
unidentified
Well, that's a good question.
I guess it kind of gets back to what's supposed to be happening with us.
If it's meant to be, I guess.
That almost sounds like a cop-out, but I think that if it's meant to be, it's meant to be.
I'm not going to really spend too much time worrying about it.
So I don't know.
One of the things I wanted to say to you was...
I'm sorry.
Thank you very much for helping me get an A in my computer class.
I'm telling you, the storms raging through the Middlewest right now.
Actually, they're moving kind of to the southeast.
You can go to a place called lightningstorm.com.
That's lightningstorm.com.
You can get a map.
It'll show you where the lightning strikes are, and there is an absolutely vicious, I mean, it just goes flying over so many states, getting ready to move actually out of the Midwest into some of the East Coast border states, right on the Virginia line, for example.
And it extends virtually from Texas right on up to the border down below the Great Lakes.
Great, big.
Just take a look at it.
It's all in red.
You'll see the affected areas in red.
absolutely incredible you Becky from Boise, Idaho, suggests that the end of the world will come when terrorists, Becky says, plant nuclear bombs inside the geysers of the supervolcano throughout Idaho, Montana, and Wyoming.
The nukes then would set off a cataclysmic eruption destroying the entire world.
And that's how Becky thinks it will happen.
First time caller line, you are on the air.
unidentified
Hi.
Hi, my name is Jim, and I'm in Everett, Washington, listening to you on KVI 570.
But anyway, I think that the cataclysmic eruptions and stuff that are starting to happen around here, I'm in the Pacific North Rim here, you know, like the Rim of Fire here.
I feel that there's been a lot of activity, seismic activity, that's very scary, especially when mankind has tested a lot of nuclear bombs and stuff out in the deserts and stuff.
Now, it may not be true, but I saw an article indicating that the United States is considering resuming underground testing.
Now, maybe that's not true, but I did see an article.
unidentified
Now, what's really another thing that ties it all in is that if it is something to do with terrorism that ever ends the world or begins the end of the world, whether it's with germ warfare or whatever, or bombs or whatever, if they interfere with ham radio and shortwave radio reception with that new high-frequency use of power transmission lines, the government will have an easier way.
Our government, if there is any conspiracy theories that may be true, I don't know.
I'd like not to think that they're true.
I really do believe our government does not want us to know what they're trying to hide from us.
whatever it is they're hiding, you can be sure they don't want us to know it.
That's why they're hiding it.
unidentified
And that's why they'll allow possibly to use the transmission lines, because they want us not to be able to use shortwave and the other ways with ham radio.
That's the best basics of all transmissions, is ham, right?
I mean, look, when a hurricane happens or when something devastates any area, and literally all communications are cut off, you will always hear the first reports coming out of any devastated area by amateur radio operators, hams.
That's just fact.
And I'm sure if you think back of the reports of the terrible hurricanes where communications have totally gone down, everything has gone down, you'll frequently hear recordings from hams reporting on what's happened because for whatever reason, it's the only communication available.
So to take that resource and to squander it to get internet over electrical transmission lines borders on insanity.
Unless they can come up with a way to do it that won't disrupt communications, they're out of their minds.
You really answered the question properly, and I appreciate it.
unidentified
Yeah, anyway, but another thing that I want to, okay, the thing about the end of the world, I think what the deal is, realistically, if you look at nature, the natural thing is adversity is the fuel for change, and it strengthens.
If you challenge your immune system to expose your immune system and temper it, it strengthens.
I know doctors who say, you know, I took that to my doctor.
I said to my doctor, doesn't it, when you get colds and flu, it really strengthens you.
He said, bull.
Actually, he said the rest of it, too, because he said it's not true.
You get a virus, you get a virus, you build immunities to that particular one.
It doesn't protect you against any others.
And there's thousands of them out there.
He said, you're much smarter to just stay the hell away from it.
unidentified
Right.
But if you look at it further, if you extend it out further, you know, it's like forest fires.
It spurs forestation.
And I think it's nature's design that we impact the environment.
And then the environment reacts back toward us.
It strengthens our resolve to change.
And it's like with the rise of fuel prices, for instance, over in the Middle East.
You know, from them in decreasing production to increased demand to raise the prices, it forces us to be innovative and try to do something differently.
Where otherwise, if we would be satisfied staying right where we're at, we would stagnate.
And all of a sudden, you're just standing outside, and this LXC just swallows Earth and all the planets in this galaxy, and you're on your way into the black hole.
If you had a collision of galaxies, there would be incredible things that would occur.
And you have to wonder.
I mean, on the one hand, you would think that astronomers would be most aware of any other galaxy getting close to us, and I would certainly hope that would be true.
But there's a little edge of the unknown there that they just might not somehow see it coming.
And there wouldn't be time for a Senate investigation about how come they didn't afterwards either.
And if we start doing things that are seriously showing we're concerned about it going too far, then they bump it back a little bit so we go back to sleep.
Because I'm sitting here wondering, as I was driving home listening to you, just whether we're doing anything positive with talking about the end of the world and really putting so much energy into that.
You just had a caller a while ago talking about warnings and different warnings, I mean, in Revelation and just the different sort of warnings about that could bring the end of the world.
And I just, I asked myself, well, what can we do about these, you know, what can we do about it, as your last caller said about a solar superstorm or about a big rock?
Look at everything and try and decide what might have been the cause because those who don't learn about the past are doomed to repeat it, right?
So whatever happened once or twice or ten times previously can happen again.
And if it does turn out that, you know, every 11 to 13,000 years, something mysterious comes along, whatever it may be, and utterly destroys every living thing on the planet.
I mean, that's it, more or less.
unidentified
I mean, that's it.
I can hear it, you can talk about it.
All the fun, give it me.
Come on, talk in.
I'll bother in your cheeks out.
You're no friend, words, and having fun.
Count the bounds on the wall.
Let's not bother me at all.
I didn't tell you all.
Let's get up 51.
What you can say, don't tell me.
I've nothing to do.
Let's not be tapped in.
I'm so tested.
Long as I can dream cards, it's all the twiggers.
Please don't give a fuck to me.
I will leave you in front.
You can always find me here at the wild time.
Gallon flowers on the wall.
That don't bother me at all.
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It looks more like a porno party to me, like a frat party.
And it's because the minds of our soldiers, our brave men and women, have been polluted by the Hollywood filth.
The sewer that is Hollywood, which is pouring its pornography out into the culture with Marilyn Manson and all the other pornographers that are out there.
That's the majority of my time is spent is fighting pornography.
Right, without actually being able to talk about the plot, which we can't because that's not fair to people, you can say it grabs you from the minute you get in that theater and it doesn't let go of you.
unidentified
Until the very end.
That's right.
And it kind of leaves you with just a wow, a wow feeling.
It was one of those movies that I think I would have to pay to go back and see a second time.
Well, you know, I guess the thing is, if you think about it, if you're a naturalist, you would be ecstatic with the prices of the gas right now because people can't afford to drive.
Well, I think that in level four and five, what is it, level four bio labs or five, whatever it is, the highest level, whatever, probably secret levels, you know, above five, whatever.
Yeah, they're developing the very worst and then trying to figure out ways to counter it.
They'd almost be negligent if they were not doing that, since it's an enemy we're going to face.
And one accident from that group or maybe the other group that, you know, terrorists, I mean, think about it for a second.
A lot of people have died trying to express their views as terrorists, right?
Well, it was certainly a theory for a very long time.
It's kind of being discarded now, and that would be the universe that expands and expands and then, like a rubber band, reaches the point where it begins to snap back.
And for some reason, cosmologists have been abandoning that theory in favor of the ever-expanding universe that appears to be the most popular right now.
Others believe it's a static universe.
We argue about the very nature of things that are around us.
In other words, we are not sure.
There are just good theories out there, some better than others.
I think you're kind of on the right point where, you know, where you said the diseases.
My opinion is it's all in the hands of mankind, meaning I think we're going to end the earth by terrorist attacks, violent hate crimes, that kind of thing, long before any meteor hits the earth or aliens attack us.
I mean, it depends on how you feel about abortion, but millions of souls, I mean, if you take the strict constructionist religious point of view, those are all souls.
And if you take that point of view, then, hey, that might be it.
unidentified
If you read the Old Testament, this is the reason why Israel was destroyed, why God had Israel destroyed.
They did not have abortion, but what they had was, well, the people got into sexual immorality.
They had a bunch of kids they didn't know what to do with.
Okay, my question, and I've thought about this a lot, is what, if you're a born-again Christian and you're trying to get America to not have abortion anymore, what's it going to take?
What is it going to take in order for America to turn and say, okay, I don't know, but I'll tell you what won't do it, bombing abortion clinics and killing doctors and things like that.
That won't do it.
The only thing that will do it will be changing the hearts and the minds of Americans.
And I can assure you, those kinds of acts don't change minds at all.
In fact, what they probably do is harden hearts.
so depending upon what you want to get done i suggest you think about A BOOM
unidentified
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The end of the world sound would be beginning shot of the end of everything.
Wildcard line, you're on the air.
Hello.
unidentified
Yeah, your theory about that biological thing, that's probably how it's going to happen.
But I think we can actually keep the end of the world from happening if we learn to love one another and if we went back to the basis.
This country was based on freedom, and they're taking away our freedoms and the right to worship whatever God that you see fit to worship in whatever way you see fit to worship.
But you see, if you don't worship Jaycee's God exactly, then you're ending up in a boiling pit of sewage.
So it's not like any God, according to some people.
You understand that?
unidentified
Well, it's all the same God.
We just have different perspectives.
It's like we're all standing inside this great big fence looking out these knotholes into infinity, and each of us sees a different portion of infinity.
So if we come back together, instead of killing each other over our visions, if we accept each other's truth, and we can have a greater, we're still not going to understand infinity, but we'll at least have a greater understanding.
It is, though, interesting that so many people have thoughts regarding the end of the world.
I mean, there is no shortage of opinions.
Oh, no.
The lines are just berserk.
unidentified
Oh, no.
That's the thing about the same as intrigue.
I wouldn't say I'm exactly a religious aspect, but I can approach it and earth from both extremes if you believe in the evolution of man or if you believe in the other theory.
Now, in either aspect, if you look at it, we're still in the simplest forms.
One of your callers a few hours ago was talking about the element of our beings being of light.
If you remember that call, I do.
Okay, the problem is, is we will have achieved the end of the earth by the other callers mentioning of the red, you know, the red giant and all that, well before we would ever have evolutionized to or metamorphosized to the prognosis of being an element of extreme, you know, light and wisdom and everything.
That's much, much more likely, even according to great brains like Dr. Michu Kaku.
Still admitted, I mean, the odds are way against us.
unidentified
Oh, exactly.
That's the problem.
We set limitations on ourselves being humans, whether it's the fear factor or the unknown.
Like, okay, some people back, you know, in biblical times would think, you know, the plague with the grasshoppers and the frogs from the sky would be a sign of, you know, it's coming.
But scientifically, we know now that that's nothing more than tornadoes going over body water, picking up animals, dropping them as they weaken.
So, I mean, the concepts are we always grasp the quickest answer to something we don't understand.
Kind of like when you go to, you know, go to school.
Having said all this, how do you think the world will end?
unidentified
Personally, in one aspect, I would have to say, with the amount of different calls you've had in, I have to kind of lean towards what you're saying about, you know, a lot of viruses and stuff.
But I don't actually believe that either because one thing when it comes to survival, mankind is the only, out of all the animal species, that actually has the ability to understand his untimely demise.
But man is the only one who can arrange his own demise.
He's the only one who has the intelligence, better put a question mark after that, to destroy himself, to remove every vestige of human presence on Earth.
He's the only species that has the power to do that to himself.
It's that it's the same thing that Brookings came up with when they studied this exact question.
And it could be that if there has been contact with an alien race or alien races, some of the questions or answers to the questions that we ponder on this program may already be answered.
And it may be that some of the answers are judged by those who judge these things high up in government as not being palatable to the American people.
Things, for example, that might suggest that the Creator that many of you believe is our Creator isn't.
That instead our Creators look really weird and are from a planet like Zeta Reticuli.
And that they, in fact, are our Creators.
News like that would tend to go down not well with the world's public.
And so that would be one reason definitely to keep it secret.
And it just occurred to me as I was sitting listening that we're in the midst of it, and I'm surprised no one's even thought of it.
It just seems to me that the overpopulation that we're into is just, I don't know, it's not actually an end in itself, but it's the means that will carry us to our end.
A lot of things are underway right now, and it doesn't take a brain surgeon to see that.
They're underway right now.
The changes that are occurring, as he pointed out, and I've tried to point out, are things that it's very hard to notice because we're living them day by day by day by day.
But the weather is changing.
Other things are changing at a rapidly increasing pace.
The first time I was on, I was a biblical reference in reference to salt.
But anyway, about the Earth, I would suggest that air, water, fire, and earth, the four common elements, the planet needs air and a system to function, you know, an atmosphere.
The scenario would be, I would think, that the atmosphere could collapse, thus ending our existence.
We would experience huge colossal raging fires like we've never seen, and it would burn out all the land masses, causing severe smoke and ash pollution.
Yeah, and then the last one, I figured, is Earth itself.
I think the Earth itself would self-destruct, such as a burnout or a shutdown of the inner core, or the combination of the three air, water, and fire elements, thus destroying the Earth.
I was just thinking all these theories and everything.
I think the world will end, not the world, But our race, human race, as we know it, by the hands of ourselves, as it has in the past, this history will repeat itself, as legends say.
This prime example is how we as a race took out another race is coming over and taking over America, and we have all this pride in doing it.
We're just kind of having a laid-back discussion this morning about how you think the world will end.
no shortage of opinions on that subject i can tell you you Somebody faxes me.
No, of course not faxing.
But somebody does fast blast me here on the computer about whether I've seen the movie called 28 Days.
Yes, actually, I have.
And it certainly depicts a very horrible end for the world.
I wonder if you've seen that.
I must admit, 28 Days rocked me back.
If you want to see what would be a Mad Max scenario, believe me, 28 Days is the one I think it's making the circuit right now on the various pay channels, that kind of thing.
And I was just wondering, I heard on your show a while ago that when the next space shuttle goes up and it's grounded by meteor showers, then the world is close to coming to an end.
I wonder if you could tell me a little bit more about that.
He said that would be a sign when the space shuttle returns to Earth because of danger from meteors, then I guess we'd be in very immediate trouble because, you know, by the time they're warning the space shuttle, well, hey, what can we do?
You know, there's only a little bit of atmosphere separates us from the shuttle.
It's kind of like, you know, the beach that finds, you know, somebody sees a shark out in the waters or something, and, you know, the season's coming up for tourists.
But anyway, I don't think your special effects did enough justice to what would really happen.
And the only reason I say this is when I was in the Navy, this was from 1962 to 1964, I was stationed on board the United States' largest icebreaker at the time.
That was the USS Glacier AGB-4.
And we took part in Operation Deep Freeze where we went down to Antarctica.
And you're going to have to use your imagination a little bit on this, but to give you an idea how big the ship was, it was like about 310 feet long, or in other words, larger than a football field and 74 feet wide across the beam.
And anyway, we had diesel electric engines that powered it, 21,000 horsepower.
But anyway, when we'd race down to the trough of the waves, anyway, the waves would come over the bow, and the bridge was like 120 feet back and 60 feet up in the air.
Well, the waves would go clear over the ship.
And on board the ship there, there was a hollow mast with a conning tower, sort of like a crow's nest that was all enclosed.
And so I went up to the top of that, and I was 100 feet above the water line.
And I still had to look up to see the top of the waves, like at about 30 to 40 degrees.
But they had to show it as, well, again, you know, I'm not going to discuss, I've got to hold myself back from doing that, the plot of the movie.
And so I guess I'm going to have to refrain even right now.
But I've been not in quite the dire situation that man was in.
But we were in the North Atlantic in conditions that were not too dissimilar.
And I, too, went all the way up to the radar dome during this thing that was turning even the crew green.
I mean, everybody's in the rooms getting sick.
But it didn't bother me for some reason.
So I just went all the way up to the radar dome and opened the hatch and went through, and my glasses were immediately torn from my face and went scattering across the deck.
And only the fact that it was probably 60, 70 mile an hour wind, and only the fact that there was something to stop them from going overboard did they stop.
It was very enjoyable, however, being out in the middle of that raging wild sea.
And when he describes the waves the way he just did, you can only imagine what 100-foot waves would be like.
West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified
Hi, Art.
Hello.
My name is Joel, calling you from Bullsville, Montana.
And I have quite a different opinion, but the opinion is not my own.
I would share with you very quickly some of the apparitions of the Blessed Virgin Mary, one or two that is approved, and one or two that are my favorites that aren't approved, but basically, we're not heading to the end of the world.
What is an approved vision versus a non-approved vision?
unidentified
Well, for example, let me take one of the major ones that has been approved, The Key to Japan, where the wooden statue that was in the chapel cried real human tears and human blood from the eyes.
This was tested by Japanese scientists and found to be real human tears.
I thought then there had to be almost a court of proof presented at the Vatican, ultimately, for a full-on decision to be made about whether it was really a miracle.
I mean, isn't that like a test they give saints?
unidentified
Well, that's true with declaring someone a saint, but for something like this, like something of supernatural significance, the local bishop does possess that authority.
Well, anyway, now at Akita's...
I haven't read them entirely, but the chastisement is spoken of there.
There are three major events.
Let me just share them very quickly.
There would first be to mankind a warning or a purification in which every single human being on the face of the earth will have his or her conscience illuminated.
We will know exactly where we stand with God, whether we're deserving of heaven or hell.
We will have up to about one year to straighten ourselves out, if you will, come back to God.
And the miracle is supposed to take place within a year.
Now, I don't know if there will be miracles at other places, but especially if Garavandahl with the Blessed Mother is purported to have appeared several thousand times to these four young girls in the time period of 1961 to 1965.
The miracle will be greater than the miracle that happened at Fatima in 1917.
You can see it, you can take pictures of it, but you may not touch it.
And in other words, it will serve as proof that the Blessed Virgin Mary really did appear.
And if you have not converted back to God by the time that the great miracle takes place, then it's too late.
And I think that this is going to be pretty much broadcast worldwide.
People that are really, I think, have turned back to God will know what to do.
For example, let me just use an example from the Old Testament where the people of God, at the time of Moses is going to lead the people out under the evil of Pharaoh, were told to put the blood of the lamb on their doorposts.
Well, in the modern day, it'll probably be something like hang an LED flashlight.
unidentified
No, I'll tell you what, I think it's really going to be kind of reluctant to go into that area, but it's going to be something as simple as consecrate the Blessed Mother says in the books or in the messages to Father Goby in the Marian movement of priests, that you consecrate yourself to the immaculate heart of Mary, that you're going to be everything you can be for Jesus, so to speak.
Well, I'm not as comfortable with what you call the Jesus factor or whatever, you know, the little green alien factor.
unidentified
I don't know what color they are, but I honestly think there's some sort of interventionary power that's preventing this because I don't have much faith in humans' ability not to use the weapons.
If there's a weapon there, Art, you know it's been used.
Well, I don't think the odds are good because the weapons are there and the people willing to destroy themselves and the rest of the world, they're also there, plenty of those people.
So it's just a matter of time until one gets in the hands of the other and then time's up.
unidentified
Yeah, they don't adhere to the MAD, the mutual assured destruction theory.