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From the high desert in the great American Southwest, I bid you all.
art bell
Good evening, good morning, good afternoon, wherever you may be in the world's Politic time zones, covered by this program, all of them, which is Coast to Coast AM.
I'm RBL.
Weekend version.
Good evening, everybody.
It's absolutely an honor to be here with you.
unidentified
I love it.
A few program notes.
art bell
One, as you know, I had said I might not be here this weekend, or perhaps the following.
Well, it's going to turn out to be the following.
Next weekend, actually, I will not be here.
No conspiracies.
I've not been dragged off into the bush or anything.
The antenna which we were going to get up this week is now planned for next week or this coming week.
This monster of an antenna, about 14 towers total to hold up, I don't know, 2,200 feet of antenna with about 4,400 feet of wire.
It's all going to go up during the week sometime.
unidentified
Hopefully, weather-permitting.
art bell
Looks a little ominous out there.
So, next weekend, I will be off doing that.
That's program note one, two, is going to be, you might take a look at my, actually, there's several things on the website you're going to want to take a look at, and we'll get to those.
In a moment, let's look at the world quickly.
Democrats debate over Iraq, Bush, Vietnam.
John Kerry accused President Bush of repeating Vietnam-era mistakes in Iraq, and he pledged on Sunday to combat Republican attacks, which rivals Howard Dean and John Edwards faced pressure to cede the nomination to the Democrat frontrunner.
Looking ahead to a matchup with the president, Kerry said during a Wisconsin debate, quote, I'm prepared to stand up to any attack that they come at me with, end quote.
I'm ready for what they might throw at me.
Well, be assured they'll toss something.
A special Iraqi police unit arrested a senior Baath Party leader on U.S. military's most wanted list in Raid Sunday.
So let's see now.
That leaves only 10 top figures from the original 55 that we wanted.
So we've got 40 out of 1, 45, I guess, out of 55, leaving 10 more to go.
The day after the chief investigator said authorities were closing in on a serial Highway shooter, the man stood in plain view on an overpass and began firing a handgun at cars below.
He then walked into his car and slipped right back into traffic.
How are the rovers doing?
NASA's spirit rovers stopped to examine an unusual flaky rock on the surface of Mars Sunday.
As scientists prepared to send it on a trek that would be more than double its one-day distance record, the Mars Explorer team hopes the rover will travel about 82 feet on Monday, and that would be a record.
Now, a couple of items on the website, and I thought this was really cute, as well as, of course, absolutely fascinating.
It's an associated press story called Universe's Most Distant Object Seen, Pasadena, California, in a discovery that offers a rare glimpse back to when the universe was just 750 million years old.
A team of astrophysicists said Sunday they have detected a tiny galaxy that is the farthest known object from Earth.
Quote, we are confident it is the most distant object, end quote, California Institute of Technology astronomer Richard Ellis said of the galaxy that lies about 13 billion light years from Earth.
That would be 13 billion light years, or in other words, 13 billion years at the speed of light to reach.
The team uncovered the faint galaxy using two of the most powerful telescopes, one in space, the other in Hawaii, aided by Get This, the natural magnification provided by a massive cluster of galaxies, the gravitational tug of the cluster, called A Bell.
Actually, A Bell 2218 deflects the light of the distant galaxy and magnifies it many times over.
And that's a capital A, by the way, A Bell.
They have that kind of humor.
The magnification process first proposed by Albert Einstein and known as gravitational lensing produces double images of the galaxy.
Without the magnification of 25 afforded by the foreground cluster, this early object could simply not have been identified nor studied in any detail with presently available telescopes.
Now listen here.
The discovery gives a rare glimpse of the time when the first stars and galaxies began to blink on, ending a period cosmologists call the Dark Ages, said Robert Kishner, an astronomer with the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics in Cambridge, Mass.
The possibility is here that we are really beginning to peek into that time, said Kirschner, who was not connected with the discovery.
Quote, people have gone there in their imagination.
They've thought about it.
Now, we're getting the facts.
The Hubble Space Telescope revealed the first glimpses of the galaxy, backed up by observations made by Keck Observatory's 10-meter telescopes atop a mountain in Hawaii.
The galaxy is just 2,000 light-years across.
That's far smaller than the Milky Way, which is, well, I don't know, about 100,000 light-years in diameter.
Cosmologists have predicted that early galaxies contained stars that were different from the ones that came into being much later in the history of our universe.
But the astrophysicists' analysis suggests the type of massive stars the galaxy contains were common after the end of the Dark Ages.
Very interesting, if true, said Kirshner.
No one knows how long the Dark Ages lasted in the wake of the Big Bang, 13.7 billion years ago.
Well, the Dark Ages, of course, could have been forever, right?
That was that which was before there was anything.
Before God said, let there be light.
unidentified
And then the blinking began.
art bell
So that article, as well as a photograph of this farthest galaxy, AB1, or AB whatever it is, is up on the website.
Kind of neat.
Item two, this could be pure bull.
On the other hand, it would certainly have really major implications for all of humanity should it just happen to be true.
I'll tell you what.
Open lines are coming up.
I'll get to this supposed classified secret U.S. document in a moment.
We'll call it BioGate.
So we'll do that, and then we'll get to your phone call.
So if you have anything that really is important that you get on the air in this first hour, oh, yes, one more program note.
Prior to diving into our second hour, which will contain one Aaron Donahue, an extremely controversial person, extremely controversial.
In fact, I'm warning you right now that it's going to be a dark show.
I mean, it has every potential of that.
Now, Aaron Donahue is a remote viewer who worked with and then was dismissed in some way by a majored games.
Aaron is a Luciferian.
So it has obvious, from many listeners' points of view, negative probable connotations to it.
And therefore, you are warned that the children, the little ones, and the sensitive ones should be rushed away from the radio.
And, you know, only if you think you can mentally stand hearing such a thing should you even be tempted to listen.
That'll be next hour.
in a moment as something probably classified and well maybe classified maybe total bull the Okay, I don't vouch for any of the following in any way whatsoever, except to bring it to you.
The following was submitted by Dr. Joseph M. We will call him.
I have his full name, but I'm not going to use it.
It says, Dear Art, I'm attaching a file that I thought you might find interesting and want to talk about, perhaps on your program.
According to the file, this is a secret briefing from the CIA.
It arrived on my doorstep in a plain manila envelope with instructions that I should get it to the right people.
I'm honored, I think, to be considered a right person.
There was no return address in Postmark, Washington, D.C. I don't know anybody located there, by the way.
It looks genuine, but obviously is transcribed for easier reading.
However, one or two of the title pages look to be from the original document.
I suppose that was that the original was damaged somehow.
I can't quite make heads or tails of it, but perhaps some of your listeners can.
P.S., I guess this material may have come to me because as a hobby, I sell unusual items on eBay, and someone thought I might be able to make use of it.
I only have a few items up right now, but more are coming.
And he gives his username.
So, top secret UFO sensitive area, top secret background contacts, mission contacts.
Okay, so here's what it is.
After a few top-secret-looking type things that could have been, frankly, you know, taken from virtually anywhere.
This part certainly would be interesting if true.
Q status only.
Q status alert.
Top eyes only, it says.
Intelligence briefing.
Not to be released outside agencies, departments, executive, legislative, or judicial branches without proper internal authorization.
Well, it doesn't say anything about talk shows here, though.
National talk shows, hey, it didn't say that.
Let's see.
This agency announces that the aging code has been permanently broken, making biological immortality a certainty.
Please note that this is not a future event, and the data has been proven conclusively at this time through scientific testing.
Clarification underline.
Biological, physical immortality, or the problem of death and dying has been conquered permanently.
The Human Genome Project, under the direction of several intelligence community agencies, Trine, Umbra, Sacred, Jehovah, Majestic, Zodiac, Spiritual, Environment, and Medea, has conquered mortal physical death.
Now, there's a lot of reading here in a PDF file, which I've made available to you on the website.
But just let me read this part.
Most importantly, the BI project, that would be biological immortality, has been completed.
The completion of the project was a necessary step due to the amount of time it takes for interplanetary travel to outreaching star systems that have planets which can sustain life and have similar ecosystems to Earth.
Given enough time, our technological advancements under the direction of ETs, that's the direction of ETs, would have been sufficient for interplanetary travel without biological immortality.
Due to the shortage of time, BI was an easier project to complete with the information gleaned from the relatively new Human Genome Project.
Now, if you find that tempting enough to want to read more, we have posted the entire document up on the website.
That would be at, of course, coastcoastam.com.
Oh, one more little email somebody sent me that, no, a couple of things, actually, that I thought were very interesting.
Sometimes the shortest, simplest comments really are the most intriguing that a listener can make, just short little stuff.
And this was one that caught my attention coming from Felix someplace out there on Verizon.
He says, hi, Art.
Just a short comment.
Maybe the crop circles in the UK are a warning message of the coming ice age to Europe.
That's actually Felix from La Puente, California.
Isn't that interesting?
I mean, we've always wondered why the United Kingdom, why, what would be so special about the United Kingdom with regard to crop circles?
We know some, of course, are forged and fake and done by college students or whatever, but we also know some are not.
And I just, you know, his comment, though short and sweet, caught me.
I mean, here we are on the verge of the current that keeps that part of Europe warm, unusually warm, from either slowing or stopping, according to the latest science.
And he hits me with this.
Now, that may have occurred to him after I read the articles indicating what trouble we may be in with those currents.
But still in all, if you've ever wondered what the crop circles were so heavily concentrated in the UK for, well, there you go.
Maybe they are the ones who need to be warned.
And the following from Whitley Strieber's Unknown Country.
What will we do if ET contacts us?
Now, this runs counter to what I thought SETI had said to me in a most impassioned way so many times.
The International Academy of Aeronautics in Paris has a list of volunteer astronomers who are willing to help.
In the U.S., an international agreement called the Declaration Of principles concerning activities following the detection of extraterrestrial intelligence, written by SETI, lays out the basic rules for contact.
The scientists who sign the declaration must agree to keep the news about contact secret until the government has been alerted.
You can read the rest of that upon Whitley's site, but you see, I have interviewed time after time representatives of SETI on this very program who have indicated other things to me about what might be done if, you know, that the word would just be there right away.
That, and they might, of course, you know, they might let it go to the press.
But that the word would instantly flash around the world.
Well, maybe after the government got to peruse it, which is what I've always thought.
And that's the first thing I've seen in print that would back up what I always had as sort of a suspicion in that area.
And then also this article from unknowncountry.com.
This is extremely interesting.
This will blow you away.
So listen carefully.
Suspicious fires break out in Italy.
Fires have broken out in part of a Sicilian village, and no one can figure out what's causing them.
It cannot be electricity because the power has been cut off.
Now, despite this, check this out, washing machines, dishwashers, refrigerators, electric meters with cables have been spontaneously bursting into flame.
unidentified
A fire even started in a water pipe.
art bell
There's no evidence of arson besides how the hell do you light up a water pipe.
In the Guardian, John Hooper quotes somebody's name that I can't even pronounce, at the Italian Center for Electrotechnical Experimentation, as saying, he watched as an electrical wire lying on the floor that was not plugged into the mains inexplicably caught fire.
The civil defense chief there says the fires and blasts seem to come from a dispersion of electrical energy, but the origin of the presumed dispersion has yet to be determined.
So, in other words, things are bursting into spontaneous flame.
Good lord.
We really do live in a strange, unusual, and fascinating world, don't we?
West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hello.
Hello, Art.
unidentified
How are you?
art bell
Just spiffy, thank you.
unidentified
Yeah, this is Feamus up in Roanoke Park, about an hour north of San Francisco.
art bell
Yes, sir.
unidentified
And from time to time, I've called up with unusual updates on shadow beings.
art bell
And do you have one now?
unidentified
Oh, boy, do I. Let her rip.
A friend of mine, who I will simply call Miss Katie, works at a local Starbucks over here.
And by the way, she loves Coast to Coast.
art bell
Like a modern sort of, it takes me back to Matt Dylan or Matt Dylan.
unidentified
Something like that.
Not quite Dylan.
art bell
Miss Katie Starbucks, you know.
So anyway.
unidentified
Anyway, where she works, they have a drive-through window that has a motion sensor that when somebody drives up, it will open up the window.
And she was closing up the store, and she saw what appeared to be a shadow being leaning up against the window.
Yes.
Now, normally it takes a lot of activity, a lot of waving around, or a car driving up to open up that window.
art bell
But you see, a shadow being, you wouldn't think, would lean on anything.
unidentified
You wouldn't think so.
You also wouldn't think so.
It would open up the window.
However, it did open up the window and then disappeared.
art bell
Well, I don't know what to say about that.
It doesn't seem like shadow being behavior to me.
unidentified
It doesn't either, but we've seen some really strange things up in this area.
art bell
I thought last night's program was very interesting.
The concept that these shadow beings and ghosts and the dead and everything that ever was and ever is and ever will be is actually all around us at a different vibrational level.
unidentified
Well, from what little I know about quantum physics, that holds true.
art bell
It may indeed.
And what a surprise that would be for the scientists.
But then again, they're always getting surprised.
All right, brothers, thanks for the update.
unidentified
I appreciate it.
Thank you, Art.
art bell
Right, leaning up against something, something you would think without a form, something that would only be a shadow, and here by virtue of crawling through another universe or dimensional portal, just wouldn't lean up against anything, wouldn't open a window, do any of the rest of that.
All right, put a break here at the bottom of the hour, and when we come back, 30 minutes of solid open lines.
So ask yourself.
unidentified
Well, I think it's time to get ready.
To realize just what I have found.
I am in only half of what I am.
It's all clear to me now.
My heart is on fire.
But to be your views, you want to see the blues.
And you know it don't come easy.
You don't have to shout or leave the vows.
You can't even play them easy.
Get about the past and all your sorrow.
The future will last.
It will soon be your tomorrow.
I don't ask the bugs.
The bugs I only want.
Just that you know it don't come easy.
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art bell
How are you doing?
unidentified
Good morning.
art bell
Soon the beginning of the new week, the timeline for midnight crates screaming across the United States right now.
And the new week is about to begin.
Even here in the West.
unidentified
Shortly.
art bell
Stand by.
unidentified
open lines is promised coming up immediately All right.
art bell
Now our own little human genome project begins.
First time caller line, you are on the air.
unidentified
Hello.
Hey, Ari, how you doing?
art bell
I'm doing all right, sir.
unidentified
Where are you?
Right now I'm in Pottstown, PA.
art bell
Pottstown, Pennsylvania.
unidentified
All right.
A couple weeks back, I believe, you had a, by the way, it's Colonel Lunev listening to you on WPHT, The Big Talk of 1210.
art bell
That's a big one, all right.
unidentified
Yep, 50,000-watt flamethrower.
A couple weeks back there, you had a guest, I don't remember his name, you were talking about something about the weather conditions, and you were referencing your book, The Quickening.
art bell
Probably the coming global superstorm, actually.
unidentified
Right.
And you had mentioned something about, I believe, or your guests, about NASA.
And it reminded me of an article I had read a while back.
And I went and researched that and pulled the book out.
It's The Atlas on the Environment.
And it's published by Prentice Hall Press.
art bell
Yes, sir.
unidentified
And they have an article in here concerning the ozone.
Apparently there was some research done in 1982 by Dr. Joe Farman and a team of British scientists in the Antarctic doing a survey.
And they used the Nimbus 7 weather satellite, American weather satellite.
And what happened was this guy, Dr. Foreman's team, found there was a huge hole in the ozone.
And when the Nimbus satellite tried to find it, there was no trace.
Well, later on, it turns out NASA, and by the way, Dr. Foreman published in Nature magazine his results.
NASA re-examined the data with the NIMBIS 7 and they found the same hole, but their computers had been programmed to reject them as spurious before they even had a chance to see them.
art bell
Their programs were, now let's get this straight.
It was programmed to reject the information about the ozone hole.
Is that what you're saying?
unidentified
That's basically verbatim from this article.
And fortunately, the discarded data, they kept it and retrieved it, and the observations were later confirmed by Dr. Farming's old instrument.
art bell
Did you know that by law in Australia, school children are required to wear protective hats coming and going from school because of the radiation?
unidentified
No, I didn't know that.
art bell
Well, now you do.
The ozone hole is as real as a heart attack, unfortunately, and we don't really know where it's going from here.
There are those who hope and presume that because of the change with regard to CFCs, that the ozone hole will eventually repair itself, but they don't really know.
Walcarline, you're on the air.
unidentified
Hello.
Hello, Mr. Bell.
I wanted to ask you what is your take about John Kerry and President Bush being members of the Skull and Bones Society?
art bell
Well, heck, I don't know.
Maybe they are.
unidentified
Is it something we should worry about if they are?
art bell
You know, I'm not worried.
unidentified
Okay.
art bell
That's all I can tell you.
I mean, I'm not worried.
Are you?
unidentified
From what I've read about it, yeah.
art bell
Yeah.
aaron donahue
Really?
art bell
You think so?
You think secret handshakes and world domination and population reduction and, oh, we could go on and on, said to be the goals of this or whatever?
unidentified
Because it's like a political organization, that shouldn't be like something that's done in the closet.
art bell
Well, if you actually, I'm not saying that those are the goals of that at all, but I mean, if they were the goals, then you'd sure be in the closet with it, wouldn't you?
unidentified
Sure.
art bell
Do you know the secret handshake?
unidentified
I'm thinking of the Masons one.
That's the only one I know.
art bell
Oh, okay.
Well, that'll only get you a little information.
unidentified
Oh, but one more question.
art bell
Yes.
unidentified
What do I do if I can get some UFO proof?
What do you do if you can get some UFO proof?
You call Dr. Greer?
art bell
Dr. Stephen Greer?
He'd love to hear from you.
All right.
unidentified
Okay, sounds great.
art bell
Thanks, Michelle.
You're very welcome.
Take care.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hi.
unidentified
Hi.
This is Michael in Norfolk, Virginia.
art bell
Yo, Michael, how are you doing?
unidentified
Oh, I'm fine.
Thank you.
Looking forward to tonight's interview because of the last time he was on.
He was very provocative.
art bell
I did not hear the first interview, so we'll take it from ground zero.
But yeah, I understand he's an incredibly provocative, and I'm going to say it again, everybody.
If you're sensitive and you're bothered by things like this, the man is a professed Luciferian, you're going to want to turn off the radio, right?
unidentified
Well, I wouldn't play that up too much.
art bell
Well, we're going to.
No.
You know what?
No.
He's really mainly here as a remote viewer.
But, you know, that's an interesting aspect of the man.
unidentified
Well, here's how I read him.
He strikes me as a Christian fundamentalist.
Really?
In many ways.
Yeah.
His interpretive view of things, most Christian fundamentalists have never even grasped the biblical concept of Christ.
art bell
Well, I'll ask him about that.
unidentified
Let me just say the Greek translation from the Hebrew, the original Hebrew concept, then the reason it was so controversial in Christ's day was a world-ruling king.
That's what Messiah means.
A world-ruling king.
One world government.
art bell
Okay, one world government.
I know.
Thank you.
All right.
We will ask about that, whether he's actually a closet Christian and perhaps even a fundamentalist at that.
I have a feeling that the answer probably will be no, but I certainly will ask.
West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Good morning.
unidentified
Hello, Art.
Hello.
How are you doing tonight?
art bell
Okay, I can barely hear you.
unidentified
Oh, I'm sorry.
Can you hear me better now?
art bell
What kind of phone are you on?
unidentified
I am on a cell phone.
Well, I'll make it quick.
I'm sorry.
I'm here from California.
Yeah.
And, whoa, I just heard from.
Okay, and you're talking about SETI.
art bell
Oh, SETI, yes.
unidentified
Yes, and how they would react.
art bell
Wasn't that interesting?
I mean, whenever you interview anybody from SETI, they say, boy, the information would be out just like that, right?
But in this article, they say, yeah, just like that, right after the government gets it.
unidentified
Yeah, Poppin' Mechanics had an article on it.
I don't know if you had a chance to see that.
art bell
I just always suspected that anyway.
I mean, gosh, you're going to run that by the government.
unidentified
Yeah.
But it was really interesting.
I was just calling to see if you had read that article.
It talks a lot about the plan they have when we do get in contact with them and how they want to keep it from the press at first.
art bell
Yeah, and by the way, you know, I'm not altogether sure that that's wrong.
I mean, that may be exactly the right way to handle it.
unidentified
Yeah, I agree.
I kind of agree too.
But they had a test, what do you call it?
They had a run test, a fake, I guess, a fake one.
And right away, the New York Times caught on to it, and they were real surprised.
art bell
Oh, that?
Okay, I know what you're talking about.
That was the contact they thought they had.
They really did think they had an extraterrestrial contact.
It turned out to be one of our own satellites, specifically, I believe, Soho, but they thought they had the real McCoy for a little while there.
They really did.
And they actually got a call from the New York Times, which I guess in some way disabused them of that notion.
On the international line, you're on the air.
Hi, where are you, please?
unidentified
Hi, how are you doing?
art bell
Very well, thank you.
unidentified
I'm calling from Toronto, AM 640.
art bell
Yes, sir.
unidentified
I'm calling for the first time.
I wanted to talk to you about something that I've been doing for the last six or seven years.
It kind of ties in with that remote viewing.
art bell
Sure.
unidentified
It's kind of like an out-of-body experience, but I'm able to meet or greet some kind of entity through this experience, like a deep meditation state.
art bell
Really?
unidentified
Yeah.
And I've been able to copy the things that I'm seeing through this state onto paper.
They become like really fine, detailed artwork.
art bell
Sounds a lot like channeling.
unidentified
Yeah, I'm not sure what it is.
I'm just trying to get some more.
art bell
Well, that's pretty much what it's called.
I mean, when you're in contact with an entity and you are relaying information vocally or on paper, it's kind of a channeled thing, I think.
unidentified
Yeah, I've been working on it for a while, and I've been calling it fourth-dimension ink art translations.
And I've got about 20 of them done.
I've been trying to get some people to figure it out.
I don't understand all of it.
I just do them like I'm the medium, right?
And I was hoping maybe you guys would have a way of understanding it more than I do.
I've got a website if that's.
art bell
No, I can't let you give it out on the air.
Right.
But you can email me, send me to your site, and let me take a look, see.
unidentified
Sure thing.
So, yeah, if anyone has any ideas about such things.
art bell
Email me, sir.
My addresses are as follows, and this is for everybody.
If you want to get hold of me, I am Art Bell.
That's A-R-T-B-E-L-L at mindspring.com or artbell at aol.com.
And that's just spelled all lowercase A-R-T-B-E-L-L at mindspring.com or A-O-L.com.
And would love to hear from you about any subject.
First time caller line, you are on the air.
Welcome to the program.
unidentified
Hi, Art.
How are you?
art bell
I'm fine.
Where are you?
unidentified
I'm Abby.
I'm calling you from the Lower East Side in New York City.
Uh-huh.
art bell
Welcome.
unidentified
And I wanted to break some news on your program, the fact that during the Republican National Convention scheduled for this summer in New York City, a large group of anti-war activists and anti-drug war activists are organizing large protests intending to nonviolently shut down the Republican National Convention.
And at this point, we have already applied for a camping permit for protesters in Central Park in New York City.
art bell
So you're going to be part of that, huh?
unidentified
I'm organizing.
art bell
You're the organizer.
unidentified
I'm one of the organizers.
I'm an old friend of the departed Abby Hoffman.
art bell
Are you really?
unidentified
In the spirit of his patriotism, we're organizing so much because we feel the Republican administration in power is such a danger to civil liberties in America that we need to do something and we need to do it.
And I mean, New York City is not a Republican city.
art bell
Look, the only thing I would say here is, and I'm not defending the current Republican administration, but even if a Democrat had been in office when 9-11 occurred, for example, would you honestly expect to see anything less than perhaps has already been done?
And again, I'm not defending the Patriot Act or any of the other intrusions that we all now experience as a result of what happened at 9-11.
But even a Democrat in office would have been forced to take an awful lot of the measures that you're getting ready to protest.
unidentified
I'm agreeing with you on that, but I don't think they would have gone as far.
I don't think they would be arresting and detaining American citizens without right to counsel.
And I don't think that they would be attempting to eavesdrop on or listen in on attorney-client conversations.
And, you know, I don't think they would have gone as far.
And I definitely believe that they would have done many of the same things that the Bush administration has done, but I don't think that they would have gone as far.
art bell
Yeah, you know, it's something I'm thinking about very hard myself.
Our liberties in one hand and terrorism and the safety of the American people in the other hand.
And maybe that's not an easy balance.
unidentified
You're right, Art, about that.
art bell
Anyway, good luck.
Make Abby proud.
unidentified
I think we will.
art bell
All right, later.
Wildcard line, you're on the air.
Hi.
unidentified
Hi.
I'd just like to ask you one quick question.
art bell
Your After Dark The After Dark newsletter.
unidentified
Yeah.
art bell
Yes?
unidentified
Now, how can I get my hands on the Father Malachi whole interview?
art bell
All right, well, I'm not totally familiar with the deal, but I think that when you subscribe to After Dark, or at least that was a promo we were running for a while.
I don't know what the current status is, you get C D's of the Father Martin interviews.
I don't know if that's still going on or not, to be honest.
unidentified
Okay.
I was checking on the website earlier tonight, and they had that whole promotion thing.
I was just wondering about that.
art bell
They're totally worth hearing.
I mean, those are gems that should be sort of kept forever.
unidentified
Right.
I heard that in the high school about five years ago.
art bell
Yeah, those were very important interviews, very compelling, dramatic, important educational interviews.
unidentified
When did he pass away?
art bell
Oh, it's been a few years now, sir.
And I remember, and always will, getting the call.
He, they say, fell down some steps, and there is quite a bit of controversy about.
unidentified
Because of the movie The Axis.
art bell
Quite a bit of controversy about that, in quotes, accident.
unidentified
Right.
art bell
But the man, there's no other man in the world like him right now that I'm aware of.
No other.
And you really should hear those interviews by Hulker Krook.
Get your hands on one of those CDs.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hi.
unidentified
Hello.
art bell
Hello.
unidentified
Oh, my God.
I'm so glad y'all picked up the phone.
I'm a professional astrologer, and there is a huge, huge astrological occurrence happening over the next 18 days.
What's going on?
We just got through a Friday the 13th, correct?
art bell
Yes.
unidentified
We are fixing to have five planets intersect at 13 degrees of Aquarius, and it starts tomorrow.
art bell
And what does that mean?
unidentified
And what that means is, well, I went back through my ephemeris and said, okay, well, let's statistically, logically look at this, and let's see if we can find any correlation to other periods in time.
It could just be an anomaly.
So I start looking at September 11th.
Well, I found something interesting.
On that day, and only that day, Mercury was at 13 degrees of Gemini.
I said, hmm, interesting.
I keep looking.
It happens about once a month.
And I looked again at September 11, 2002.
And Mercury was somewhere else.
art bell
All right, now, see, not everybody understands what all this means.
So cut to the chase here and tell me what is this alignment you're talking about?
unidentified
Okay, my prediction, I've been doing this about 12 years, my prediction is this.
Between the bird flu, possibility of blackouts, like the global superstorm that you guys have been talking about, I am telling you now that it starts tomorrow.
It lasts for 18 days, and it's over March 5th.
It is five planets that intersect at 13 degrees.
It's statistically highly improbable.
If you'll go on the internet and just do a basic search, you will come up with a whole, you will be able to basically verify what I'm saying.
art bell
All right.
So look out.
Look out.
unidentified
I'm trying to put an all-points bulletin out, and I can't believe nobody's called me.
art bell
Well, you just did.
The next 18 days, look out, right?
unidentified
And what's interesting is, Putin's election is March 14th, and that figures interestingly into this.
art bell
Alrighty, thank you very much, I guess.
A little bleak for the next 18 days.
Watch it.
West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified
Hello.
Hey, Art, how you doing?
art bell
I'm doing all right.
unidentified
Okay, a couple of things.
The first one, I'm just curious if anybody else out there has noticed this.
For the last four days, I've been seeing crows fly lower in the sky than I have ever seen crows fly before.
art bell
Low crows.
unidentified
Low crows, like three feet overhead.
art bell
Oh, three feet?
unidentified
I mean, low.
You can see it in his feet.
And it's everywhere I go.
And they're not following me.
the crows are flying low.
So I don't know if that's...
art bell
So how do you know that they're not following you?
unidentified
Yeah, my friends have seen them, too.
I've asked around.
art bell
Well, then, how do you know the crows aren't following you and your friends?
unidentified
Yeah, I'd have to be real paranoid to believe that.
I'm just sort of wondering if maybe they're picking up on something in the atmosphere or in the magnetic field of the Earth.
art bell
I don't know.
And where are you again, please?
unidentified
I'm in New Mexico.
art bell
New Mexico, low-flying crows in New Mexico.
unidentified
Yeah.
And here's on the immortality thing.
art bell
Yes.
unidentified
My guess is that it seems like they cracked the DNA code a lot sooner.
art bell
They certainly did.
One quick question because we're at the end of the time here.
Would you want to be immortal?
unidentified
I think we're wired for it.
And I think what they've done is I think they've broken the electrical code to the DNA.
art bell
All right.
Thanks, and have a good night.
We're going to take a break and be back with Aaron Donahue.
This is a warning.
unidentified
might want to get out of the way of this one I gave you love, I thought that we had made it to the top I gave you
all, I had to give, why did it have to stop?
You're blowing all skylights by telling me a lie You
need a smile to melt no shadows There's no way you will come to me Baby, you'll see I'm too brave, baby We're gonna hold you through the light But I'm too brave in my life There's always going to make it true But I do
We're gonna love you, love you We're gonna love you, love you I do We're gonna love you, love you We're gonna love you We're gonna love you, love you
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First-class warning.
Here it comes, right at the beginning of the program.
What you're about to hear is going to be extremely controversial.
It may be disturbing.
Aaron Donahue is a self-professed Luciferian.
So if you're going to be injured in any way at all by hearing material of this sort, you know, go listen to an oldies station somewhere or something.
Get the children out of the room.
This is adult material at an adult time of night.
Aaron, Aaron Donahue, is a natural-born psychic born into a family of psychics.
As a remote viewer trained by Ed Dames, he is an expert within the field of non-historical data.
To prepare for this, he spent three years in total seclusion remote viewing pie.
As a consequence thereof, he has developed the ability to accurately remote view numbers, a skill that has allowed him to successfully and consistently win the lottery.
That's pretty cool.
I've had a million emails.
Well, if they can do that, and why don't they win the lottery?
Well, he does.
His current groundbreaking work is focused upon the study and manipulation of particular numerical trends within specific world markets.
Aaron is a certified remote viewing instructor who has recently appeared on TV Asahi in Japan, the sci-fi channel in search of series.
He will also be appearing briefly within the new movie Suspect Zero, starring Sir Ben Kingsley, Aaron Eckhart, and Carrie-Ann Moss of The Matrix.
So in a moment, prepare for the controversial.
Prepare for a man that Ed Dames.
Actually, you know, the rumor was out there.
Ed Dames fired him.
Fired him.
But on the other hand, Ed Dames called me before tonight's program with Aaron and said, hey, Art, you're going to have a good program.
So, coming up, we'll see.
unidentified
So, coming up, we'll see.
art bell
I had a lot of emails prior to this program tonight saying, you can't have Aaron on.
You can't have this Donahue guy on.
You can't do it.
And of course, that has the exact opposite effect on me.
It always does.
So here is Aaron Donahue.
Hey, Aaron.
aaron donahue
Hello, Art.
unidentified
Hi.
aaron donahue
It's an honor to be with you tonight.
art bell
I think it's an honor to have you.
Well, okay, first question, and this is one I really want to know, because, of course, I've had Ed on the program many, many times over the years.
What happened?
I mean, did Ed fire you?
I know he trained you, and then did he fire you, or did you just go parting ways?
Or what's the story?
aaron donahue
The true story is that we have parted our ways over two differences.
One, my definition of child exploitation, which is I don't do any child cases for television or for public media.
And I'll go ballistic.
If anyone ever puts me in a position where I'm going to do a child case to exploit a situation with a child that's either missing, harmed, dead, kidnapped, what have you.
I don't want this to be a public media event.
I don't want to make money from it.
And I'm not saying that Ed would.
I was put in a position that I didn't like in Japan, and so I turned my back on it.
And the other thing, too, is Ed is a Christian.
art bell
Yes.
aaron donahue
Yeah, and that's fine.
art bell
By the way, someone came over in the last hour and said, you know, this Donna, you guys, probably a closet Christian, actually a fundamentalist.
aaron donahue
I know Hebrew.
I know the Hebrew Bible very well.
And there's some things there to appreciate, but the Bible is full of holes.
And I don't want to be here to berate or to belittle or to make fun of someone else's religion.
I want to expose the truth concerning the entire matter, its history and so on.
We don't have enough time during the show to do this in soundbites, but I can skim over the surface.
But back to Ed Dames.
I want to say this of him.
He is, without a single doubt, the greatest remote viewing instructor living today.
art bell
Do you know you actually sound somewhat like him?
Your speech pattern is very reminiscent.
So he must have been very influential, yes.
aaron donahue
Yes, he is.
And he's, like I say, one of the greatest...
This man knows more about remote viewing than anybody, period.
art bell
He actually really had, but what he said about you is you're going to have a good show.
He's going to be good.
So he's, I don't know, he's still got some, I guess he's got some warm feeling somewhere for you.
aaron donahue
He's a great fellow.
I don't have anything against Ed Dames.
There are many rumors out there, and they're derived from this sort of dichotomous thing between Christianity and the Luciferian.
art bell
So it's a religious difference.
aaron donahue
Yes.
Extreme.
art bell
Yeah, extreme.
Ed's done some pretty extreme things himself.
That's why I thought anybody who Ed thought was strange would really be fun to interview.
So, all right, so let's jump into this.
Remote viewing, you say you're a trained remote viewer, and you also are claiming that remote viewing is dead.
What's up with that?
aaron donahue
Yes, it is dead.
It's been replaced.
art bell
Whoa.
aaron donahue
Yeah, it's been replaced with something.
You have to think of this as a rung in the ladder.
If you're a Nashville-born psychic, and I am, this is your first rung.
And you need to structure.
You need structure in order to access certain information to discern reality from that which is fantasy or, you know, left brain functioning associated with reality.
art bell
Structure.
aaron donahue
Yes, it is.
And that's only a rung in the ladder.
And from that rung, it's ridiculous for anyone to suppose that remote viewing would not develop into something entirely new.
In my case, it's radically new.
art bell
All right, can you explain it?
aaron donahue
Yes.
I can tell you this, that what I do, I call it the practical application of non-historical data and the acquisition of non-historical data.
There are two parts to this.
What I do is I found a way to access numerical data in time.
And I did it by discovering a formula which was given to me.
You're going to love this art.
So those are your audience out there.
You're all going to love this.
This is amazing.
Ed Dames gave me a blind target when I first took his course way back in Beverly Hills.
And this blind target had to do with a verse in Aleister Crowley's Libra al Val Legis, or the book of the law, which was given to him by some Praetor human intelligence, sobus thought.
unidentified
We thought it was a joke.
aaron donahue
We didn't know.
But when I remote viewed the code and the key to the entire book, a code was given to me.
I didn't know what it meant.
It took me years to figure it out.
I knew, instinctively, and as a psychic, to go into seclusion and to take hydrogen.
Have you seen the movie Pi?
Recently, someone had shown me that movie, and I was shocked.
art bell
No, I have not.
aaron donahue
very interesting because here's a fellow that takes hydrogen to increase his IQ, his intelligence.
and he Hydrogen is a nerve growth factor.
It mimics a nerve growth factor and it actually is an antioxidant that crosses the brain-blood barrier.
And according to the neuroendocrine theory of aging, this particular drug will halt aging of the brain.
And this is in part the reason why I'm not aging normally.
I'm at least 15 years younger than I should be.
Because they take very good care of my brain.
art bell
It says you went into three years of total seclusion, remote viewing pie.
aaron donahue
I took massive doses of hydrogen.
And what I did is I developed, through repetition, a way of looking at the world in terms of relationships.
Everything became paradoxical to me.
And this helped me work with the formula in such a way that I could use the formula as a calibration for where we are in time.
Did you know your brain's rhythm operates at 25 hours per day, not 24.
The reason why I don't wear a watch.
I don't have calendars.
I go according to my own rhythm.
art bell
It's interesting.
That would be Mars time, actually.
aaron donahue
Pretty close to it, yes.
The French case studies in the 80s had demonstrated that.
art bell
All right.
Can I take you to a lesser thing before we jump in?
Because I want to understand about the numbers and how you know what they mean.
But it says here that you have won the lottery.
And over the years, with regard to remote viewers, I've always had these emails.
unidentified
Well, if they can do it, well, but let them go win a lottery.
art bell
You know, that'll prove it to us.
And you really won?
aaron donahue
Yes, I have, and I make my living.
I don't work.
I'm retired.
I make my living remote viewing lottery.
art bell
Really?
unidentified
Yes.
art bell
Do you think that's cosmically considered?
aaron donahue
What can I say?
unidentified
Yeah, that's right.
art bell
Yeah, I'm sure we'll touch on that.
All right.
I really would like to understand from this three years of looking at pie, what you discerned and what it means, what you've learned, and what's coming.
I mean, obviously, you're going to make predictions based on all of this, right?
aaron donahue
Yes, I am.
I'm very serious.
art bell
So, let's see if you can explain to me in a way I'll understand how you convert these numbers to meaning.
aaron donahue
First of all, it's very, very difficult for a psychic, for anyone, to see a number under any conditions.
Under any condition, it's very, very difficult.
It's the most difficult target there is in all of remote viewing to see a number.
You can't see letters, you can't see numbers.
It's very, very difficult.
And if you do, imagination invariably gets in the way.
This is the next rung in the ladder.
I have found a way to calibrate where you are in time using this formula.
And when I do that, I can use this as a template for accessing anything from letters.
You can take an old ancient Hebrew text, and if you don't know anything about Hebrew, you can translate that to the best you can.
You need to do it within context, into English.
Or you can use Sanskrit and so on.
You can use this technique to look at numbers before they are conceived, which is amazing.
It proves that we can see the future.
It's undeniable proof.
And I can do it with lottery, and I can do it consistently.
It's very, very difficult work.
And we're pioneers here.
We're on the forefront of this psychological and spiritual evolution.
And there's going to be a rung higher than the practical application of non-historical data.
art bell
Well, if you have found a way to discern numbers in remote viewing, then you're over one of the toughest blocks in remote viewing, which is identifying where a scene, event may occur in time.
The time part of it has always been the toughest.
aaron donahue
It certainly is.
And that's something that I'm mastering right now.
art bell
All right.
So based on that, Aaron, what have you discerned?
And can you give us timelines attached to these things?
aaron donahue
Yes.
If you want some predictions, I'll go.
art bell
I'd love.
unidentified
Okay.
aaron donahue
All right.
Here's for my critics out there.
I'll go back in time.
I have to do this because it relates to these predictions, and there are seven of them, seven for each year prior to the return of Lucifer.
And this is going to take work.
This is up to us.
But here we go.
Back in 1985 to 1986.
This is a number in time that relates to, it's easy to go back in time because things are fixed.
It's called historical data.
So I can get Social Security numbers, anything like that.
Anything back in time, anything that exists now is very easy to get with these numbers, license plates, you name it.
But if we go back in time, if you queue up or what I call a search, the time in which the totality of the carrying capacity of the Earth with respect to human, the human carrying capacity of the Earth was breached, completely breached as of 1985 to 1986.
This was critical mass for irreversible damage to our ecosystem.
art bell
In other words, that's when person one past the limit was born.
aaron donahue
Absolutely.
Those are the years, 1985 to 1986, we crossed the line.
Our Earth began to die from that point on.
And as of 2000, this is a number that comes up concerning the first indication of a peak oil production.
And we won't know, we will absolutely have it confirmed between the years 2004 and 2008.
My numbers say 2006 is when we will have the data in proving that we've reached peak oil production.
Now, what that means to the laymen out there probably doesn't mean much.
It means you're just going to have to pay a little more for your gasoline and so on.
But for the people in the Pentagon, for China, for Russia, it means you're close to World War III.
It means societal collapse.
art bell
I could not agree more.
If there is going to be a war to end them all.
aaron donahue
It'll be over natural resources and it'll be over oil.
It's the reason why we're looking for these weapons of mass deception in the Middle East.
It's about energy crisis.
art bell
Yes.
aaron donahue
And it's a very serious matter.
And actually, I agree with the policies of the United States to protect the interest of our own country.
You have an indefeasible right to survive.
And the number one threat to the existence of the United States in the future is not terrorism.
It's oil.
It's energy.
We are in an energy crisis, and we're running out of oil.
We're now sliding down the curve.
unidentified
We'll know exactly when that point of the downward slide and the curve where prices of oil increase and have you heard the projections, Aaron, that are tossed about with regard to the amount of oil we have left.
art bell
I mean, a lot of times you'll hear scientists say at present levels of usage and projected increases in 35 to 40 years, the last drop effectively has been drawn, you know, that kind of thing.
aaron donahue
Yes.
That will never happen.
There will always be new opportunities for oil that we haven't discovered.
We know we have everything basically mapped.
But some areas are so expensive and so time-consuming to explore and to extract oil.
art bell
Well, that's what I meant by last drop, effectively taken.
aaron donahue
That'll never happen.
art bell
Well, I know, but economically, I'm trying to agree with you.
Economically, there's going to come a time when it's going to be war.
aaron donahue
Yes, and the war will be the time when we, if we go to war, and what I'm seeing is an opportunity for us, which is very, very interesting.
We don't have to go into a global conflict, which will escalate to a nuclear exchange, absolutely, between China and the United States, and then Russia gets into it.
And this is all about self-preservation.
And I'll give you the years for that too.
But you're right that we will have a point in which the spigot is running dry.
And that's because of total world social chaos, which is right around the corner.
Because we're getting a one-two punch here.
We're not just in the middle of an energy crisis.
We're going to have an abrupt change in our weather soon.
Your book, Concerning Global Superstorms, is so scary and so right on.
I'm telling people, I'm telling your audience that that book, you need to read it.
It's right on the mark.
art bell
Well, thanks for the plug.
But the recent news, you know, from Woods Hole and others is pretty concerning.
Now, I'm watching how this story is developing very carefully, and big mainstream media, with a couple of exceptions, have ignored it so far.
And I'm wondering when they're going to, you know, like a light switch is thrown, they're going to suddenly discover, oh my God, look what's happening to the Gulf Stream.
Oops.
aaron donahue
Yes, and it is slowing down.
Our winters are getting colder.
And eventually we're going to have an ice age.
That's so true.
Europe and the United States will freeze over in its northern regions.
You're going to have a prone at winter when that happens.
And when does the light switch go on?
Not until a critical mass of awareness concerning the matter and media gets on board with us.
Right now, we're in a state of collective denial, and denial is one of the seven stages of death.
There was a time, Art, when during the time of Ur, Iraq, the critical civilization which we bombed recently, did a bad thing to our psyche, Ur was a place where Abraham had existed, and they had stripped their resources to the point where Ur was destroyed.
They had to leave Ur.
This is the story of Abraham leaving Ur, which is now called Iraq today.
It was once lush forest, and that they couldn't farm anymore.
They had no more water.
They had to leave Ur.
It was an ecological disaster.
In those days, you could leave for another area of Earth that was still alive and vibrant and could supply nourishment to a human being.
A life support system for that human being was everywhere.
So you could destroy a local area and then move on.
art bell
Those days are gone, and you said it yourself that there was one human too many.
And what year was it?
1980.
aaron donahue
1985 to 1986.
art bell
Yeah, right in there somewhere.
All right.
Aaron Donahue, hold on.
but somewhere between eighty five and eighty six there was one more human born than the earth could bear and aaron says that's when I don't know.
See how that one rests with your psyche.
Does it seem like that could be possible?
From the high desert, I'm Art Bell and this is Coast to Coast AM.
unidentified
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David in Santee, California, know that with sweat pouring off his forehead, his fingers trembling, asks that, hey, Art, can Aaron view the numbers needed to register a Windows XP CD that I bought as Swap Meet for $1?
It had no documentation or install numbers.
unidentified
I don't know.
art bell
Observation.
Aaron, in a lot of ways, you're like Ed Ames in the sense that you are obviously using some pretty dark looking at some pretty dark targets.
Now, the observation is that if you really have moved a step up and you're able to discern dates through numbers, then you have an awful lot you could still be working with and enhancing the work of Ed Dames, joining forces with him.
It seems to me you're both near or close to the same page.
aaron donahue
Absolutely.
And I've never been opposed to working with him again.
He's just a marvelous person to work with.
He's very analytical and very smart.
And like I say, he knows more about remote viewing than anybody on the planet.
art bell
Well, with your ability to nail down the timelines, the most problematic thing with remote viewing, it would seem a natural.
Anyway, so let us continue.
You've given us a couple of predictions.
Let's get them out.
unidentified
Yes.
aaron donahue
Well, here we are at the fulcrum, 2004.
Everybody wants to know, and this has been viewed back in October, as promised, and President Bush is going to be re-elected.
And this fulcrum in 2004, this is where everything changes.
And it's not just because we're here now.
That's irony.
But what we're talking about is that we have to make some decisions.
There are highly probable futures.
And Nastradamus put his predictions out there.
Why?
Because they presented us, ethically, an opportunity to change.
This is why I look at dark things.
As a psychic, I don't tell people good things very often because I don't want these people to change.
I want these people to recognize the bad things so they can avoid them.
art bell
So these bad things are not absolutely inevitable and the future is to some degree malleable.
aaron donahue
That is correct.
But there are some futures which were fixed long ago.
For example, the carrying capacity of Earth was breached.
We are dying.
We're a dying race of beings on a dying planet.
And everybody can feel it on some level.
This is the thing that's foreboding in everyone.
You can see it in their eyes.
I can feel it in the spirit of a human when I walk by them.
They're very sad, and they're troubled.
Prozac sails are skyrocketing.
art bell
Yeah, I don't disagree with any of that.
I think that people have a certain foreboding feeling that's part of our natural instinctual process, just as other animals have it.
We do too.
We can feel when something is askew.
aaron donahue
There are 72 primal fears, and now we're reaching the higher frequencies.
We're getting into other frequencies of these fears.
And yes, this is a cellular information we're accessing.
Fear is a great teacher.
It's a great revealer.
We need to face our fears, not run for them or create systems of information that deal with them indirectly.
We need to face our fears directly.
And my work is probably one of the most fearful position you can have.
Dealing directly with Lucifer is quite a frightful thing indeed.
And I'm saying that.
And I've been with Lucifer my whole life.
art bell
In the same sense, no doubt, that others would say they fear God.
God-fearing, right?
Isn't that the phrase?
aaron donahue
I would say my definition of God would be the highest of information systems, and we fear that which we can never understand.
And this is something so beyond our collective intelligence, I can't possibly begin to understand it.
Therefore, in that sense, yeah, it's scary.
art bell
Or one could take it the other way, and of course, you know, Lucifer has a sort of a general rep out there, right?
And so you could take it that you're in fear of that force of evil as it's perceived by most people.
aaron donahue
No, I don't fear evil.
Evil is something that humans create.
It's not real.
This dichotomy between good and evil is something that we create every day.
When a human being abuses a child or exploits it, that's evil.
art bell
That's evil.
aaron donahue
We create it.
art bell
Boy, I agree with that.
aaron donahue
And I'm here to liberate Lucifer from these negative connotations.
If you look at Lucifer historically, that's actually not the name of this entity.
There's no accident for anything.
There's no such thing as coincidence.
It chose that name to be recognized as such.
Why?
Because the old Latin word for Lucifer, as Lucifer, means Venus, the morning star.
Christ himself referred to himself as a morning star and so on.
But Venus is the model for global warming.
There's some new data out there showing that if we continue to pollute using fossil fuels, we're going to have an atmosphere similar to Venus.
And this entity, which is the father of the human race, it genetically manipulated us.
We left the Garden of Eden through genetic manipulation.
Cross-culturally, it's in all of our stories.
And this entity is our father.
It gave us the capacity to have the soul.
There's only one soul, and it's associated with the life and function of the spirit, Earth.
unidentified
And this entity you call the progenitor of the human race.
aaron donahue
Lucifer, our father.
It created us.
We leave monuments.
Dolphins do not.
Yet dolphins have larger forebrains than we do.
If a dolphin has a more sophisticated communication system than we could ever imagine having, why does it not leave monuments?
What's the difference between a human being and a dolphin in terms of intelligence?
A great difference.
What's the difference between us and a dolphin?
We have the power to destroy our environment.
A dolphin is bound by the rules of nature.
It is of the spirit earth.
We have a soul.
The dolphin does not.
The dolphin is the soul.
It's part of the soul generation process.
And when we kill the earth, we destroy our ability to transmit the light of the soul, which in essence is the same vibrational state of our Father, the Creator, Lucifer.
Lucifer represents the ultimate fear.
Lucifer stimulates us through fear.
art bell
fear is a great teacher on what basis do you I I I just don't understand how you revere Lucifer as our Creator how you you know you're not viewed and this was I
aaron donahue
And so I understand a bit more about this entity through visions as a child.
For example, on my website at ummo.cc, you can click on the brown world being.
art bell
You had a very difficult childhood, didn't you?
aaron donahue
Yes.
Yes.
And I love my parents.
They're wonderful.
They did the best they could.
I was basically born in a garbage can, left for dead.
Not by them.
But I didn't fit in with other kids.
I'm a synesthete.
And, you know, you grow up assuming that everyone else is like you are.
They're psychic.
And, you know, they can know when someone's going to die and so on.
art bell
Yes, that would be natural.
If you had a natural psychic ability until you learned otherwise, you would certainly think it was normal, wouldn't you?
aaron donahue
Yes.
And I can see color.
I can hear it at the same time.
The frequencies of color, I can hear them.
And so the senses are combined in many ways.
And so assuming that other children are like this, you don't know any different, but you feel different and you're treated differently.
It's difficult to reflect upon society when your brain's wired completely differently.
And then you're born with a higher IQ, that just compounds the problem.
So what I did as a childhood is I shut up.
Didn't say a word.
Self-preservation.
Didn't talk to anybody.
And I kept this a secret for many, many years.
But I had an intimate relationship with Lucifer my entire life.
This thing has always been by my side.
And I didn't understand it until Ed Danes.
I remote viewed it over and over and over again.
And I have come to learn through countless sessions that this thing is an alien.
It is an extraterrestrial that was involved with the genetic manipulation of the human being, the primate.
art bell
You're saying that Lucifer, as we know Lucifer, is an alien being who is responsible for our creation.
aaron donahue
That's correct.
It is our father, and the earth, as we evolved from the primordial soup, is our mother.
So we can turn this into some kind of mythology for us.
And again, mythology is very good.
We learn from this.
But the Lucifer is a real thing.
It's an entity, and it had technology, and it converted us.
It manipulated our DNA from the primate to what we are now.
And you know, in the old Hebrew, Lilith, which was the first wife of Adam, is described as a hairy one or an ape.
Eve was described as the one without hair.
So that's very interesting.
And there are cross-cultural stories that show this as well.
So it's not just in the Old Hebrew.
Very interesting.
In the Kabbalah, the tree of life, of course, was the knowledge of life and death and so on.
And this has a lot to do with Luciferian knowledge or the entity that is guiding us or trying to.
Now, there is a war in heaven, so to speak.
There are those who oppose Lucifer, the angelic influences that created the four great religions to turn mankind against itself.
And here we see this in the Middle East.
We see the Christian against the Muslim.
I want to unite all the religions under one thing, science and spiritual truth.
And it can be done.
You're going to have to come up on the next rung of the ladder beyond the practical application of non-historical data, which the acronym is PAN, short for PANIC or the PAN nib, as you know.
So there is another rung, and you're going to have to come into that other rung of truth.
There are four levels of truth.
Most remote viewers can only access the first level of truth.
A lot of garbage in there.
You might be looking for, you know, in the first level of truth, a typical remote viewer might look for, say, a missing girl in a sacred Indian burial mount.
You know what I mean?
art bell
So let's roll over this carefully again.
Lucifer was an alien that created us and also then created the four great religions that you suggest were designed to be at war with each other.
unidentified
Not Lucifer.
no lucifer did not create these religions these religions are all the angel That's correct.
aaron donahue
The angels are the enemy of mankind.
We've been conditioned to believe that they are our friends.
art bell
Having a hard time getting everything backwards.
So the angels created the religions so we would all tear each other to pieces.
aaron donahue
We're being programmed to go extinct.
we have a belief system in Armageddon.
And because we believe in something, we can create it.
art bell
We do believe in Armageddon, don't we?
aaron donahue
We have a faith-based system in Washington that believes in Armageddon.
And back to the fulcrum, 2004.
art bell
Yes.
aaron donahue
What are we going to do?
What is our choice?
Because if we choose an administration that believes in Armageddon in the face of a collapsing ecosystem and an oil crisis, it doesn't take a psychic to know the outcome of that.
You're going to have a global nuclear exchange fighting over dwindling natural resources and existence.
art bell
Well, since we're so far over limit on the number of human beings who can be here on Earth, perhaps that's a self-resolving problem.
aaron donahue
You know why it isn't?
Because the Earth's ecosystem is in such a bad, it's in such a bad state right now.
A nuclear war would shorten our ability.
Definitely will be extinct as it is.
In the future, we're heading towards human extinction.
But we want to prolong the time in which we become extinct.
art bell
So we are headed for the end.
I mean, complete extinction.
unidentified
All humans are gone.
aaron donahue
Gone.
The human being is on a pathway of extinction now, and there's no way to turn around.
We're not smart enough to fix this.
art bell
If nothing changed, when would this extinction be complete?
aaron donahue
I see, well, I've looked at this, and there are two, and we need to get into this because when we go down these timelines, we get into more complex probabilities.
But I see humans alive on the planet, the last human alive on the planet, 300 years from now.
And that's if we're very, very careful.
We develop a cyborg through chip technology, liquid chip technology, transneurogenetics and so on, genetic engineering involving integrating your nervous system into a computer matrix like the internet.
Everybody's linked up, and eventually you'll be able to transfer your consciousness through understanding and being in the matrix yourself most of the time.
You'll be able to transfer your essence into it in terms of your conscious awareness, your consciousness, your life, and so on.
You'll be able to holographically project your life in the matrix, and that's the slipping slope.
That's where we lose ourselves.
art bell
And how soon might that aspect of it begin?
aaron donahue
That's in the year 2025.
art bell
2025, really.
Yes.
aaron donahue
The year 2025 is the exact year when we reach critical mass for slipping into the computer matrix and become cyborg.
We do it for two reasons.
Our ecosystem is in such bad shape.
Engineers are frantic to do something, to create a repository of human experience, a totality of the human life, somewhere.
Because we know in 2025 that we're definitely going to be extinct soon.
We don't have much longer to live.
art bell
And so we're going to be desperate to create a record of humanity's achievements and knowledge for what?
aaron donahue
It's instinctual.
It's something that we strive for.
All of science is about achieving permanence.
unidentified
Yes.
aaron donahue
And so this is just an alternative way of permanence.
Instead of, we don't have time to convert to a silicon-based unit.
What we do is we use computers to transfer consciousness into an alternate reality.
You know what is most bizarre about this?
To conserve energy, and all of nature does it, we develop a third sex.
No kidding.
All of the beings in the world.
art bell
We develop a third sex?
aaron donahue
Yes, so there's no more dichotomy between the sexes or ideas and so on.
It's a hellish environment and they're begging to die.
And I have access to what looks like a woman in a blue dress.
And she says two things, Art.
And you can remote view it.
I have the queuing.
She says two things.
She says, 2025.
And I didn't discover until recently what that meant.
unidentified
And she says, kill us.
art bell
She's begging.
aaron donahue
Yes, she's begging to die.
They're all begging to die.
And she wants to give the warning out now.
Don't go into the matrix.
art bell
Pretty rough stuff, Aaron.
aaron donahue
Oh, yeah.
It's better to become nothing.
It's better to step into the infinite to become extinct than to eternally exist in this computer matrix.
art bell
Well, there are indications.
I mean, I have interviewed scientists who are actually experimenting on themselves, implanting chips in their bodies already.
I mean, it has begun.
aaron donahue
Oh, you haven't even heard that.
art bell
And I've talked to many others who have discussed the possibility of downloading the human brain into a processor.
unidentified
Absolutely.
art bell
I mean, all of that is being talked about right now.
aaron donahue
It's a part of a future that you can view.
I got the queue numbers for it, and I can give you a blind target.
And you'll get the same thing I have, and it's scary stuff.
And it gets worse.
There's more.
art bell
Aaron, I have intentionally avoided remote viewing.
I'm one of those people who, with regard to the kinds of things you're talking about, doesn't know.
And so then I suppose I should ask myself, then, what am I sitting here doing interviewing you?
But anyway, great to have you here.
Hold on.
We're at the top of the hour.
Aaron Donahue, one of Major Ed Dame's students, is here.
unidentified
And you can definitely tell he's one of Major Ed Dame's students.
Can't you?
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art bell
With ourself, my guest is Aaron Donahue and you know, Ed has said a few times that there is a point at Switch you can't see.
You can't see a thing.
And I wonder if Aaron looked at that, and maybe that's what we're talking about.
Right now.
unidentified
Now it's been done.
Man has five a billion years.
For what he never knew, now man's reign is true.
*Sexy and the other one who's in the background*
art bell
Ed has talked about a point past which he cannot see like a giant wall and worrisomely, you know, kind of like, well, maybe he can't see anything because there is nothing to see.
And I wonder if we could be talking about the same things, Erin.
aaron donahue
We have two things going on there.
One, Ed is absolutely right about angelic intervention.
Angels, especially if you have a holy and guardian angel in you or around you influencing you outside of your awareness, they or it can block or protect you from certain knowledge.
And when you go beyond a certain point, you're going to have to be brave.
Things are dire and dismal, and there is no future for our young people.
There's no future for anyone alive in there.
And anyone who is existing in the midst of a dying ecosystem, of a failing, rapidly failing ecosystem, they know they have no future.
They know they're going to go extinct.
And extinction, you see, is not something we're accustomed to.
unidentified
The human mind, the brain, doesn't grasp that.
aaron donahue
It can never grasp it because it represents the infinite.
So it represents our ultimate fear.
And that's why we see pre-extinction behavior patterns like Columbine.
We can never understand why they would do something horrific like this.
I think it's from childhood, and then we look at it and it's not.
What is it?
art bell
When you look at these pre-extinction factors, you mentioned a social one, and I see those, and I see weather changes, I see political changes, I see in every aspect of human endeavor, things would seem to be accelerating and accelerating perhaps not in a favorable direction.
So I do see that, and I've known that for quite some time.
And you're saying this is part of that pattern.
aaron donahue
Yes, we're beginning to exhibit pre-extinction, human pre-extinction behavior patterns.
These are women who wake up and just kill their children, beat them with bats, or drive into lakes and drown their children, and they won't know why they did it.
They'll blame it on demons or what have you.
art bell
You, however, blame it on, no doubt, angels.
aaron donahue
No, I don't blame the angels don't do that sort of thing.
No.
In fact, demons don't do it either.
That's just not true.
Neither angel or demon.
Angels and demons are identical.
You have one thing on one side for man and one thing against man.
art bell
So simply the pending pressure of this extinction is going to bring on more and more of these.
aaron donahue
The purpose of, yes, it will.
And the purpose of this dichotomy between the angels and demons is for, was supposed to be for our evolution.
Lucifer's purpose was to impede the path of man in such a way that man could evolve.
Something went wrong.
We made some bad choices.
It's all about the human being and what we choose.
And we can't go back now.
So right now, we're going to have to choose to remove the holy guardian angel and accept the demonic realms as our highest probability, something that could provide for the human race the highest probability of existence in the future for our children.
We've got to disrupt this balance between the two now.
So I'm calling for people to get rid of trash, their HGAs, and to accept the demonic realms of knowledge and direction.
Because it's all we have left on a dying planet.
It's the only chance our children have of surviving the future.
And this Hui, we hear about demons making you do something.
Humans make that choice.
They choose to be evil.
They create the evil.
You can't blame it on the spirit realms because they don't move your arms and legs.
We do that.
art bell
You know, I mean, what you say is going to be, you know, when you say it, that we, something like we must accept the darker, you know, the demonic.
You're just driving people crazy out there.
But the rest of what you say makes a damn much sense.
aaron donahue
I know it.
And I go further.
Wait till I start talking about the benefits of a one-world order and 666 and what it means.
art bell
Let's take a couple of things that I want to cover before we dive into that river.
For example, Mars.
You apparently have something to say about Mars.
Now, we've got the rovers up there doing their thing, looking at rocks.
And are they seeing anything up there other than rocks?
aaron donahue
Yes, they are.
And I have an announcement to make.
We're going to discover, If we continue to study Mars, I love science.
I'm all for graphs and science and information.
I'm an information junkie, and I'll tell you, this is very exciting to me.
I think it's a waste of money.
I think that it's an affront for a space race between China.
It's about military conquest between China and the United States.
Again, it goes back to dwindling natural resources.
We're gearing up for a global conflict.
art bell
You think it's a waste of money, but exciting.
aaron donahue
Oh, yes, it is, because the other side of this research will show us prebiotic chemistry, which will reveal how Earth's early life began when prokaryotic cells...
No, it is not.
But it's not something that we expect to find right now.
This is what I find when I view Mars.
I have searched high and low.
I have searched everywhere.
Anything that is suspect, I view it, and I have not found a single structure there which is exotic in any way.
They're a bunch of rocks.
And I may have missed something, but so far, I found nothing, Art.
Mars is dead.
The face on Mars is absolutely a mesa.
But we will find on Mars what happened to Mars is that it had all the stuff to make life.
It just wasn't in the right position with respect to the sun and so on.
It didn't have the right temperatures.
It didn't have the right conditions to spark up life the way Earth did.
We were in the perfect place for it.
What Mars is showing us is how unique and how wonderful and beautiful the Earth was.
And the Earth is dying now because of human activity, because of bad choices we have made.
There's no Planet X that's going to tilt and smash into us.
unidentified
No Planet X. No Planet X whatsoever.
aaron donahue
I've looked at it from a number of times.
It does not exist.
We're not going to tilt.
We destroy ourselves.
We go extinct because we do it to ourselves, because we overpopulated the planet.
We destroyed our ecosystem.
Our eco-balance is gone.
It can't return.
art bell
There are many who will fast blast an email.
Oh, baloney, there's tons of empty space out there.
This planet can support billions more people.
Don't worry about it.
A lot of those.
aaron donahue
It's amazing, isn't it?
And I'm not trying to say that they're less anyway.
What I'm trying to say is they need to study a little more.
They need to study more about our ecosystem.
I find it interesting that we're learning more about, say, Mars than we are about crustaceans and the bottom of the ocean.
And we need to pay attention to our own planet because when this theater closes, there's no place left to go.
You can't colonize Mars.
It's got a different gravitational field.
Sperm cannot, its mortality cannot function properly in a different gravitational field.
We've evolved to be here.
We need to take care of our planet.
We need to tend our garden now, and it's desperate.
It's an absolute desperate thing.
It's a no-brainer.
art bell
All right, where is the hope?
In other words, if this is malleable in any way and extinction can be prevented, in what manner would it be achieved?
aaron donahue
This is where the controversy comes in.
art bell
Yeah, I know.
unidentified
It's a worrisome question.
aaron donahue
I have remote viewed, and I have viewed, and I've used PAN.
I've used all the tools that I have as a psychic, and I've done this with blind targets with other people.
And what I have found is something we called Project E. I call it Project E. It refers to something very odd cross-culturally.
It also refers, and because most of the listeners here in the United States are Christian, they're familiar with the Garden of Eden.
And here in the midst of the West, we see the Hopi, and they refer to Spider-Woman's web in the center of the web where we pass into the fifth world and so on.
art bell
They do indeed.
aaron donahue
Now, the legs of Spider-Woman are the four angels guarding the gates of Eden.
It's no different.
When you remote view this, or when you view it, when you look at it, what you find is you find something that happened a long time ago.
Noah.
Noah went through this thing in an artificial craft that he did not build.
Noah's ark was a spaceship.
And by the way, you find cattle mutilation all over the place prior to Noah's departure.
And you find approximately 200,000 people.
Why that number?
Because that's required.
The 144,000, as you might know, is required to maintain human genetic diversity.
Why a whole human and why not just grind them up like a cow and then reformulate them?
Because the human carries the light of the soul.
The cow does not.
It can be cleaned up and reformulated and reintegrated into systems of information in the future.
Whereas a human cannot.
We're very, very special.
Like our planet is very, very special.
But you see the difference between that time and this time, I hope we say we're passing into the fifth world, fourth world.
The difference is this.
This time, the Earth may not be able to be receded.
We're not smart enough to fix this problem.
What we're going to discover with this prebiotic chemistry that we come back from Mars with, we discover it.
unidentified
Yes.
aaron donahue
What we're going to do is we're going to look at our Earth's chemistry, and we're going to relate it to that chemistry there, and we're going to realize something has gone terribly wrong.
It will be an indirect result of this work.
We're going to realize with science, hardcore science, we're not coming back here.
That planet Earth is going to have eventually an atmosphere like Venus.
We can't come back here.
art bell
That would be very troublesome for us.
But the original question, Aaron, was how is this preventable?
aaron donahue
Contact.
We're not smart enough to fix this.
We're in a jam.
We've got a big problem here.
We have to go to a higher information system to understand it.
remember, I said the name of Lucifer was not his name, its name?
Its name.
As it turned out, are 72 specific frequencies.
I worked with the galetic demons of King Solomon.
I pained over this for many years.
I'm an accomplished ceremonial magician.
I've worked with the evocation of demons for years.
And believe me, you can't just sit down and remote view a demon.
It'll screw you up.
You've got to be an accomplished magician to do this.
And you have to be very, very careful.
You can't just walk in there and have contact with one of the 72 demons.
The 72 gouetic demons of Solomon each carried, ironically, maybe not ironically, maybe it was all planned, in stage 7, which stimulates the Wernicki's area of the brain, which produces auditory hallucinations.
Now, I got a tone for each and every demon.
I didn't know what it was until it was all done.
When I reached the 70-second demon, I evoked the demon inside of a circle, did my cleansing and banishing and so on, all the rituals.
And I made contact with the demon.
I knew it was there standing behind me.
You can feel it.
It feels like it's claustrophobic.
It's very electric in there and spooky.
And with my remote viewing table in the midst of the circle where the demon was standing behind me, there I started making contact with the demon by remote viewing it all the way to stage seven.
Each of the 72 demons I did that, and each one gave me a tone.
When the last one was done, I had all the tones in my head, and nothing happened for about two weeks.
Nothing.
I was disappointed.
And finally, it hit me.
I woke up in a cold sweat.
This is me, an occultist, just trembling.
It's unbelievable.
I just, what was happening?
And I could hear a song.
It was the most beautiful demonic choir you can ever imagine.
It was the name of our progenitor, of Lucifer, the thing that I'd been chasing all my life.
And the brown-robe beings, the things that showed me many future events, they're associated with Lucifer.
art bell
You probably scared Ed Dames.
aaron donahue
I don't know.
I didn't ask him if...
art bell
I'm just sitting here listening intently.
I can see that if you were doing this then, you would have worried Ed.
You would have worried me.
This is pretty dark stuff.
And you know full well the average Christian reaction to what I've been hearing here is you're dealing, communicating with remote viewing demons and they will do the worst.
They're the trickiest.
They will lead you down the wrong path.
That's what the demons are.
aaron donahue
Yeah, that's what they'd like to liberate the demons from that false impression.
art bell
You'd like to liberate them from it.
aaron donahue
That's because the angels have programmed people.
art bell
They've had rap on them, huh?
aaron donahue
Yeah, the angels have programmed people to think this.
art bell
You know, maybe you can react to this for me.
The most troublesome thing that anybody has ever said to me on this program was said by John Lear, who was actually quoting someone else, maybe Whitley even.
Anyway, it was the following.
When you die, you know, your natural inclination is going to go to the light.
unidentified
Don't do it.
art bell
It's a trick.
You go to the darkness.
And if you don't go to the darkness, you're lost.
aaron donahue
I've been dead.
And if anybody should burn in hell for eternity, it should have been me.
I didn't have the devil boinking me in the rear end with a pitchfork or anything.
There's no gates of fire or anything.
There's nothing like that happening.
It was just I'm going to tell you that no, you're right.
You don't go to the light.
Yeah.
And you do eventually.
But what's involved is when the brain stops functioning, and I know firsthand, I was in some 40-degree temperatures, so I was well-preserved.
art bell
What happened to you?
aaron donahue
I had an anaphylactic reaction to penicillin.
I shouldn't be telling people because I have now over 200 death threats, so as a result of my various emails.
art bell
By the way, do you want to give out your email address?
aaron donahue
Yes.
Actually, if you go to my website at ummo, umo.cc, there you will be able to contact me.
And that particular area can handle the traffic.
I get around 3,000 emails now every month.
art bell
Yes, warning, everybody.
There are some things I'm told on that website that Christians will be offended by.
And so I give you that warning.
As I continue to warn you about Aaron tonight, there are some things I'm told on that website that will be very disturbing.
I interview you people, people like you, Aaron, because I want to know.
I know what it did to the cat, but I still want to know.
And while you say things very offensive to Christians, the rest of what you say kind of makes sense.
A lot of what you say makes sense.
A little bit of what you just laid on me in the last 10 or 15 minutes was a little difficult, but still in all, it kind of makes sense.
And that's troubling.
If you're really involved with Lucifer, you should be a total maniac.
aaron donahue
Yes.
Some might say that, but the opposite is true, that Lucifer is our only answer to the future.
And by the way, all falsehood is reassuring.
Whereas truth is always disturbing, especially in these days.
So if it is disturbing, you're probably within yourself touching on some truth.
But I'm not here to convert anyone.
That's not my job.
I can only live by example.
And even then, I know that the vast majority of people, in fact, we do have a number, 5.3 billion, are going to be dying soon.
art bell
With respect to the new world order, the one world government and all the rest of that, I take it you regard it as inevitable.
You welcome it in view of what is coming.
unidentified
Is that enthusiastically?
art bell
Enthusiastically.
aaron donahue
Yes.
art bell
So bring it on.
Okay.
We'll discuss that.
At least.
Aaron Donahue is my guest, and you've been warned.
unidentified
I'll see a waste of lightning.
I'll see.
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art bell
You know, I wonder how many of you can feel it.
Whether you agree or disagree, and I know many of you disagree with Aaron Donahue.
With regard to what he said about the Earth, its capacity, where we're going, and the possibility of sort of a nervous little tick at the back of your mind telling you that something is profoundly wrong.
How many of you can feel that?
unidentified
Pshh!
Pshh!
art bell
It's always conceivable that there could be yet even a small portion of the audience that we've not yet managed to offend, so let's go after them.
With regard to the New World Order and a one-world government and all the conspiracies and all the rest that goes along with that, Aaron, you say you welcome it.
You enthusiastically welcome it, I think.
aaron donahue
Yes.
art bell
Why?
aaron donahue
It's time to promote this thing.
It's time to go out in the open and actually begin from the grassroots all over the world to promote the idea of uniting a world government.
And how do we do it?
Through our market system.
Our market system is the number one target of not only the terrorists, but it's also the target, it's the first thing that will begin to reflect our dying ecosystem, our failing ecosystem, and of course our energy problems that we're now facing.
And yet when I look into the future, because I'm very interested in market trends, it's one of my I'm just I can't get enough of this stuff.
It's just fascinating.
Because it really does reflect modern man and what it's thinking.
The thing about future markets is I see them fairly stable, and they're not reflecting very chaotic situations.
So when I view this, I find something very interesting.
I find going way back to the present, I find F.M. Bonsal, who is training students now and screening them for me, these are my students in the future that are nailing order within the chaos of a market using PAN or the practical application of non-historical data.
They're looking for specific trends for investors in the midst of a chaotic market.
And it is the only reason that future markets exist.
And these people are hand-picked to think a certain way.
art bell
Well, it makes sense to me.
I mean, we began early on trading with each other.
Villages traded with villages, and then cities with cities, and states with states, and countries with countries.
And obviously, the trend is irreversible and well underway.
I mean, we are on our way to a one-world economy, and from that will eventually spring, probably, a one-world government as just a natural following.
Maybe not in our lifetimes, but I do see it headed inevitably.
Inexorably, that way.
It's headed that way.
aaron donahue
It's a natural process, and we will see it within our lifetimes.
We have to, because I'm pushing for this early.
I want this to happen right away, not only for our children.
art bell
What do you think the nature of this one-world government would be?
aaron donahue
It would be a communal type of government, not like Marxism.
Marxism lacks spirituality.
That's the reason why it failed.
That's why it's failing today.
So you're going to see a spiritual community of like-minded people, the intelligentsia, are going to be ahead of the state.
And we're going to be giving up our individual freedoms.
And we have to put this into context.
First of all, we can't have the rights that we have today anymore because resources have to be allocated from a central location in order to provide the greatest good for the greatest number of people in terms of providing the optimum future for succeeding generations.
art bell
Sounds like Marxism.
aaron donahue
It is, but it's a spiritual form of a community, of a communal system.
It is a spiritual form of communism.
But you can't call it Marxism because there are some amendments.
There are some loopholes, if you will, that allow certain freedoms based upon how dedicated you are to the system.
So you're not becoming a hypocrite by climbing the ladder within the system.
You're rewarded certain freedoms that you wouldn't normally have to remind you of the old days when we still had the experiment of freedom here in the West.
art bell
So you don't see much of a democracy.
aaron donahue
Democracy, daughters, it's failing.
art bell
You see more, well, I mean, the communists certainly had favors for the party elite, and that's what you're saying will always be.
aaron donahue
Well, yes, only this is going to be different because it'll be in the open.
And it will be an integration of the West and Eastern ideas of what a government should be.
But again, you have to put it in the context of a dying Earth.
We're doing this, and this system is created out of necessity.
And I'm saying right now, we can avoid World War III if we go to a one-world government.
If the United States government I'm sorry to cut you off, Art.
art bell
No, no, that's all right.
I mean, do you see this as a benign dictatorship?
Or would you not venture that word benign?
aaron donahue
I would say it's a type of leadership that, and I've looked at this carefully.
It's a very kind leadership, and it's also a very unkind leadership to those who betray the ideals of providing an optimum future for succeeding generations.
If you break the rules, we're going to remove the chip from you.
We're not going to execute you.
We'll give you one opportunity.
You're going to be deprogrammed and then re-socialized.
And if that doesn't work, then the chip is going to be removed from you and we're going to make you starve to death.
You're going to be put outside of the system.
And you can't pass because of future terrorist problems, and they're only going to get worse.
Because of future security problems, they're only going to get worse because resources are dwindling.
This is the core of everything.
Overpopulation is the problem, is the core of everything.
art bell
And how will this new world structure address the problem of overpopulation?
aaron donahue
My favorite question.
And I wish we had done it 20 years ago.
Forced sterilization for all people with disabilities and lower IQs.
We have to allocate resources for the greatest good for the greatest number.
And that means that people of lower IQs, people with IQs below 100, will be forced into, they'll be sterilized.
They will not have a choice.
art bell
Now, to most people, this now begins to sound not quite so benign and more like the Nazis.
aaron donahue
Well, the idea of eugenics was actually a good idea.
I thought Hitler was an insane person.
By the way, he was on amphetamines.
It was their super victory drug, if you will, to motivate the troops.
The Japanese used amphetamines as well as a motivator for the troops.
And Hitler went insane on this drug.
art bell
Some of our pilots use amphetamine to stay awake.
aaron donahue
Well, probably not to the extent that Hitler is using it to stay awake.
I mean, you can see it in his salute and in his voice and everything.
He's definitely burning brain cells.
He's destroying his brain cells.
He eventually has stroke as a result of using these drugs.
And he was combining it with heroin or opiates, if you will.
So that's what happened to Hitler.
He was insane.
Drug-induced psychosis.
He was not a sociopath.
He was drug-induced, psychotic.
Probably had some sociopathic tendencies.
If you look at the way he dealt with his people and his government and so on, especially towards the end.
But that's what happened to Hitler.
art bell
Well, you know, this is a fairly big brotherish world, being kind here, that you're talking about right now.
And I don't see how you can be welcoming all this enthusiastically if you really think it's...
Well, I can tell.
aaron donahue
Yes, because it's our only hope of providing a future for our children.
We need to buy time.
We've got to buy time and we've got to provide...
Lucifer is not, that's not the name of this thing.
It has 72 tones, 72 frequencies.
Its name is actually a song.
art bell
So I will be screaming to, please don't take my 666 chip, right?
aaron donahue
If you don't have the chip, don't eat.
art bell
That's right.
aaron donahue
Period.
And that's how we control the masses.
And the masses have to be controlled because the experiment in freedom produced a dead earth.
We've got to take the freedoms away.
They've got to go.
And it's out of necessity.
And we're talking about this early because many people are in a state of denial now.
art bell
You know, I actually do have kind of a chilled feeling that what you're saying, you know, what you're saying, at least about, well, let's imagine for a second, the people who imagine they're running the world, whether they are or not, if they're looking at the harsh realities that you're describing with reference to our environment, the oil, the overpopulation, all the rest of it, somebody probably is thinking about all of this somewhere.
aaron donahue
More than just one person.
I guarantee it.
art bell
Oh?
aaron donahue
Absolutely.
art bell
And so how far along is their plan?
How well executed is their plan heading us toward this inevitable future?
aaron donahue
I guarantee you that I'm not the only one promoting the idea right now, and it's done in various ways.
We must do this or we risk early extinction.
We will eventually become extinct, the human being.
But we need to provide an optimum future to lengthen the time before we become extinct so we have a chance of solving our problem.
And we're not going to solve it with technology because we're not smart enough to do this.
art bell
By the way, for a second, let's drop back.
You did drop this contact thing on us that we cannot do this ourselves.
We will require contact with.
aaron donahue
Lucifer.
Lucifer, there's only one alien that visits the planet.
There's another bombshell for everybody.
And it's all relative to Lucifer.
art bell
And all these UFOs and mutilations that we see in crop circles and all the rest of that?
aaron donahue
Preparation.
We're looking at the same cycle that had occurred during the time of Noah.
And Noah was carried over with approximately 200,000 people.
And we see the same situation occurring again.
But something's wrong.
We need to make contact with our progenitor because something is desperately wrong.
And by the way, one of the first signs of contact, I've been working on this project for years now, is a three dancing orange balls of light in a triangular pattern.
I call it the xenotransdimensional beacon.
Ed and I, we've looked at this, I've been chasing that thing, and I've isolated a place where we can bring out the xenotransdimensional beacon in New Mexico.
No kidding.
art bell
What is it?
aaron donahue
This is like a red flag.
This is announcing a contact event.
That's exactly what that is.
And it's a form of entrainment.
It draws your attention away from the actual ship.
And some people can be manipulated outside of their awareness once they're entrained.
A girl that I was with in that area, by the way, is I'm going to frequent the area, by the way.
I have photographs.
I know how to evoke contact.
But I only can get photographs of these triangular things, and I can't get to the craft.
It's not time yet.
But they know we're here.
And you can remote view a precise location and time.
Using PAN, you can isolate a place on the earth and a number for time, and you can be there and wait for this thing to show up.
All you have to do is take your camera and take photographs.
But that's not good enough.
We need contact.
And what I'm seeing is I'm seeing that whatever it is, Lucifer, is interested.
We're not smart enough.
We're not wise enough.
We're not figuring it out.
Collectively, we can never understand this higher information system.
Now, I call Lucifer, not Lucifer, but a gate.
This is a gateway.
art bell
Have you considered, Aaron, the possibility that that which you call Lucifer and those which you call the demons and so forth and so on are not what you think they are?
aaron donahue
Yes, that's, of course, when I've been doing this for so long and that question comes up so often.
What I see is I look at a world dominated by angelic influences.
You must admit that.
And look at where we are on the planet.
What have the angels done for us?
art bell
Okay, that's my question.
What have the angels done for us?
aaron donahue
Look at your world.
art bell
Well, right.
You mentioned the large religions.
aaron donahue
Four great religions were all created.
art bell
What have they done for us lately?
aaron donahue
Zero.
They're completing their mission to turn man against man.
They're completing their mission to make us extinct.
Now, why would they do that?
Because within us is the divinity of the one they've turned against, Lucifer.
There's a war in heaven over us.
We have that divinity within us.
That DNA change is something that those angels don't want to evolve.
Do you know what our purpose was?
Man, when you remote view this, it's fascinating.
What?
We were supposed to reach in perfect harmony with Earth.
If we had tended the garden, if we were vegetarians and so on, we'd maintain the garden, taking care of Earth.
We could have reached 10 billion people.
That was supposed to be the threshold.
Why 10 billion?
Because this was our nexus.
This was our chance to step into another reality, another totality for the human experience.
unidentified
This was our step up.
aaron donahue
And we blew it.
What we're going to do, we needed 10 billion people to operate at 10 billion neurons firing simultaneously, all matching resonance.
All these people initiated and aware of who they are and how they relate to the universe around them, matching resonance all at the same time.
10 billion times 10 billion neurons firing simultaneously.
By the way, 10 billion neurons, you might say that defines consciousness.
This is the point where in third trimester, this is the point where the soul is transmitted in the body.
Before that, it's just a spirit and a lunk of flesh inside the womb.
The soul begins to be transmitted when 10 billion neurons fire.
You go below that threshold, and you no longer transmit the light of the soul.
art bell
You know, in a lot of ways, if I were to take just a few of the words you use, like Lucifer, demons, angels, God, although I haven't heard you say God a lot.
But, you know, if I just made you reverse those words, you'd be a preacher.
You'd be, yeah, really.
aaron donahue
Well, maybe a psychic, you know, kind of religious guy about our children and our future, and our only chance is to do this.
I'm risking my life to do it.
I could be, put yourself in my shoes.
I can see lottery numbers.
Why don't I just buy an island somewhere and disappear?
unidentified
Well, why don't you, Aaron?
aaron donahue
Because I can't stand watching our planet die.
I get my energy with the Earth.
I see its beauty.
I've grown up with its beauty.
I'm a synesthete.
I'm a sensitive.
And I've been feeling the Earth die as long as I can remember being aware.
art bell
So you're saying you feel a duty to humanity?
aaron donahue
I look at our children, and I love our children.
And I can't allow angelic influences to destroy their future.
And I spiritually, I have eyes, and I can see the influence, and I can see how man has been programmed to confuse himself.
He does not know what he should know.
He is spiritually ignorant.
I'm spiritually ignorant, but not to that extent.
I look at things not just teleologically, but deontologically.
I look at both the big picture and small picture, and I combine the two.
And when I look at the big picture, I see what the angelic influence has done to the planet.
Right now, we are more Christians on the planet than we've ever had, ever.
There are more Muslims than ever before.
People are profoundly religious today.
From religions to four great religions, which are all influenced by angels outside of our awareness.
When a Christian says, Jesus, come into my heart, I accept you, and then you give yourself to Jesus, how do you know what you're putting in your body?
Why don't people ask the question, I want to see spiritually, I want to see what it is that I'm giving my soul and body to.
art bell
Aaron, if I open the phone lines, what do you think will happen?
aaron donahue
I already know.
art bell
You already know?
unidentified
Yes.
art bell
Okay.
aaron donahue
It'll be interesting.
art bell
Maybe, maybe not.
Interesting, it will be.
You can bet on that.
unidentified
All right.
art bell
Stay right there.
Oh, boy.
Coming up, that's what we're going to do.
We're going to open the phone lines.
My guest is Aaron Donahue, and isn't he odd?
Indeed.
I mean, so much of it is maybe almost blasphemous, right?
From your point of view.
but then on the other hand there's these these moments of lucid intellectual concern
unidentified
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With our bells, you could be listening to the school song of the New World Order and the One World Government.
Have you ever stopped and really listened to the words?
art bell
it could be their theme I want to remind everybody, the very core of this program is to bring information to the fore that you don't hear elsewhere for your consideration, rejection, amusement, whatever it may be.
The very reason for the existence of a program of this sort is to air material that you just won't hear anywhere else.
And that's certainly Aaron Donahue.
Aaron, welcome back.
aaron donahue
Thank you.
art bell
It's going to be interesting, I think, to get the reaction of just a general person.
And I think I, too, can probably imagine the reactions, but I've been surprised before.
Why don't we find out?
First time caller align, you're on the air with Aaron Donahue.
Hello.
unidentified
Hello.
art bell
Hi.
unidentified
Hi.
Number one, I think it's very interesting the way he keeps saying, we are going to put a chip in you.
We are not going to allow you to do this.
We are going.
Meaning he's on the side of what he thinks is going to be the leaders of the world.
art bell
It sounds that way, yes.
unidentified
Yeah.
And it's still the same old left-wing crap.
It's clothed in a new so-called intellectual language.
But that does not necessarily mean that someone is making sense.
Number one, where he gets this thing about the world is all depressed.
art bell
First of all, you're talking directly to him.
unidentified
Oh, okay.
Aaron, where you get this idea, how depressing.
But for you to spread the gloom, this is being done by television.
This is being done by people not being able to control the gore and the blood and the stuff that's in our entertainment world.
We don't get to sing anymore.
We have to watch these people kill each other, put on shows on vampires.
There are so many youth going around.
art bell
Oh, my God.
There's nobody who's put a vampire on.
unidentified
They have a show where they actually believe it's shows.
art bell
Oh, come on.
Nobody would do that.
unidentified
Yeah, they do have one.
They really do.
I couldn't believe it.
And this kind of stuff is depressing.
art bell
All right, so it's depressing.
unidentified
It's depressing, but this is just another cloaked socialism.
This one world government is socialism.
And when you said it sounded like Nazism, it is the same thing.
All these rules that Aaron and his ilk are going to put on us.
Well, you know, come on.
We are going to get to where we're going to revolt against all this.
We want to be happy again as a people.
art bell
All right, well, here's an interesting question.
unidentified
You've got to have faith in God, isn't it?
art bell
Let's find out.
With regard to what you first said, Aaron, where do you, if the one world government and the one world whatever were to form tomorrow, where do you picture yourself in the structure?
aaron donahue
Absolutely in the midst of it, promoting it and indeed participating with it.
I would probably be most interested in the spiritual aspect as well as the aspects involving deprogramming and re-socialization.
art bell
Ah, you really want to be in the middle of the mud, huh?
aaron donahue
I think those are the most interesting positions, and that would be up to the council to do something like that.
art bell
So it wouldn't bother you to issue, based on what you see, the edicts on population control, reprogramming, camps, the chips, the whole works, right?
aaron donahue
They're necessary, especially the camps.
art bell
Especially the camps.
aaron donahue
Yes.
In fact, the vast majority of people are going to resist at first.
unidentified
Yes.
aaron donahue
But they'll understand in time because of you have to put it into context.
Now, I understand I don't, I'm sorry, ma'am, I don't know your name, but you have to put it into context.
art bell
Well, see, she's probably headed right for one of the camps.
aaron donahue
Well, most likely she may meet me in the future or someone like me and will be counseled or given the option of having the chip removed.
And if so, then you starve to death.
And that's the end of it.
art bell
Well, you see, the Christians, of course, think you're exactly right that there will come a time when Christians will be rounded up, tortured, killed, and reprogrammed.
aaron donahue
No one will be tortured.
No one will be killed.
art bell
I'm sorry, let me drop the torture part.
aaron donahue
Yeah, they think we're going to send them off into the lion density.
art bell
Well, starving them to death, though, is fairly radical.
aaron donahue
This is their choice.
Our door is open.
art bell
It was said they would have the choice to take that chip or not.
aaron donahue
That's correct.
And our door is open.
They can only exclude themselves.
art bell
So you agree with a great deal of what they say in some strange ways.
Wildcard Line, you're on the air with Erin Donahue.
Hello.
unidentified
Hi.
Hi.
I guess your previous caller didn't hear last night's show, did she?
art bell
Well, no, maybe not.
unidentified
Okay.
Well, Erin, you have talked about the extinction of humanity, and Ed Dames talked about souls being harvested.
I would like to know what you see as the purpose of the soul and what happens to it after death, and also who or what is God?
art bell
That's a lot.
Purpose of the soul.
aaron donahue
We are information systems, and our job is to evolve intellectually, spiritually, and physically.
And we were supposed to reach up into the highest of information systems, which I define as God.
Lucifer's gate is just another Access into a higher information system.
We are information systems.
That's what we do.
We're holographic projectors.
We gather information.
We were created so the universe might see itself through our own nervous systems.
unidentified
Is Lucifer a gate to God?
Is that what you're saying?
aaron donahue
Lucifer is a gate into the highest system of information.
And Lucifer itself, its name is a song.
I have to clarify That.
But for all intents and purposes, it was designed to show us, to point to our ultimate fear, which is Venus.
This is what our Earth will become.
And when it happens, we will lose our souls.
We can't have a soul transmitting through us without a healthy planet, without the Earth being alive.
So we lose our souls.
unidentified
Okay, so if the planet dies, our souls die.
aaron donahue
That's correct.
There's no more transmission of the light.
art bell
That's very close to well, but not exactly, but it kind of tracks a little with the Hopi, doesn't it?
aaron donahue
Oh, absolutely.
By the way, I went to the Hopi and I gave them the missing fire clan tablet after Ed again gave me another blind target way back in Beverly Hills.
And I located the missing fire clan tablet, and I discovered that the Messiah, by the way, you're all going to find this interesting, the Messiah.
Bahama's not the Messiah.
This is a concept.
I'm just this stumbling white guy learning about Hopi culture.
And I happened to remote view the location and meaning of the missing fire clan tablet.
I gave it to him, and I can never go there again because white man is not supposed to know these things.
But I did my job.
I gave, you know, it's just part of histories.
We're part of information systems.
art bell
How did they all reach out of us?
unidentified
Yeah, how did they receive it?
aaron donahue
The women were very angry.
By the way, I don't want to shed a bad light on the Hobi.
They're waiting to be passed into the fifth world, the elders.
The red cloak being has returned.
The pahana was improperly received.
Now, the pahana is a concept.
It's not an actual person.
It's not one person.
It's a concept.
It's the lost white brother.
It refers to the bicameral existence of the brain and the breakdown of that sort of thing.
And patterns all throughout history, as I hope he recognized them.
unidentified
All right.
art bell
East of the Rockies, you're on the air with Aaron Donahue.
Hello.
unidentified
Hello.
Good evening, gentlemen.
art bell
Good evening.
unidentified
This is Jason from Cleveland, listening on WTAM.
Yes, sir.
Okay, I am half asleep here, and I just would like to say, Aaron, I would like to establish contact with you in the future.
Quick comment and a quick question.
I'm pretty much right with you, except on the aspect of the one-world government.
But, you know, I can let that slide.
First, my quick comment is that a week ago, everything that you mentioned about consciousness being downloaded into a matrix, I actually had a very disturbing out-of-body experience in which something exactly like that was revealed to me.
And my question, the answer to which I can listen to on the air, is, in what way would a Maitreya figure into this?
aaron donahue
Yes, the Maitreya is the Buddhist version of the Messiah.
And it's not all the Buddhist version of it, but it is a Buddhist version.
And the Maitreya, again, is conceptual.
It's not an actual person.
It's what you think.
It's what's In your forehead, not what is on your forehead.
Are you with us?
art bell
I think spiritually?
Yes.
You remember that young lady who was on?
She also asked what happens to our soul when we die.
aaron donahue
Well, we don't die if the earth dies, okay, but there is not reincarnation.
This is very, very esoteric and very complex.
This would perhaps be another show, but it is a fascinating subject and one that I have been working on because it's a great, great mystery.
We all share the soul.
There's no soulmate.
art bell
So it is a collective.
aaron donahue
Yes.
It's an information system.
It's another way that the universe and all other universes gather and store information.
We have galaxies long burned out.
They're gone.
But the information will be there forever.
Information never goes away.
And this is another example of it.
But if you become a ghost, your past life, you don't have a future.
You don't have lips to talk.
And I have to laugh at these people who claim they can talk to the dead.
That's a load.
That is simply not true.
You don't talk to the dead.
You're talking to a VCR machine of a recorded past life, and it's not alive.
art bell
Yeah, that could be.
aaron donahue
Yeah.
art bell
That certainly could be.
Even the people who record these things acknowledge that could be.
West to the Rockies.
You're on the air with Aaron Donahue.
unidentified
Hello.
art bell
Hello.
unidentified
Hello?
Yes, yes, yes.
Yeah, my question is, I'm curious if can a person, when a person dies, okay, his soul is, because there's when the electric spark leaves the body, Can it return to another body?
I mean, is it...
art bell
You just finished telling us, didn't you, Aaron, no reincarnation?
aaron donahue
No reincarnation, but there are matching resonances.
There are genetic similarities that will allow you to transmit cellular information.
For example, you get a heart transplant.
unidentified
Sure.
aaron donahue
You're going to begin to integrate with the genetic structure.
The cellular intelligence is going to become expressed.
And eventually, in time, you're going to be able to think thoughts that you haven't had before.
art bell
That's true.
That's absolutely true.
I've interviewed quite a number of transplant folks, heart, lungs, I mean, really serious transplants.
And it's true.
They take on the characteristics of the person who donated those organs, the wants, the likes, the dislikes, the tastes.
They develop all these things of the person who gave.
It's incredible.
So it's true.
There must be some sort of cellular transmission of information when such organ transplants occur.
aaron donahue
We are all systems of information and we share information.
That's our job.
unidentified
That's what mankind is.
art bell
Yeah, that makes sense.
International Line, you're on here with Aaron Donahue.
Hello.
unidentified
Yes, good morning, Art and Erin.
art bell
Hi, where are you calling from?
unidentified
I'm calling from Vancouver, Canada.
art bell
Okay, you're going to have to kind of yell at us.
unidentified
Okay, I'm listening on CFUN 1410.
art bell
Right.
unidentified
My name is Sally.
Okay.
I have a comment and a question.
The comment, in response to your question, I do feel that the Earth is revolving, it's escalating towards something.
You asked if it was had that feeling that it was going somewhere downhill.
And the question I have for Erin, Erin, do you know, do you have any sense of when this end time will happen?
Is it 2012 or 2030?
An idea of this world end time?
aaron donahue
2304 is the last human, and I'll tell you, it's a gruesome sight.
There are flies everywhere.
Mold is covering everything.
Eukaryotic cells are consuming what's left.
Insects rule the planet.
art bell
2,304.
aaron donahue
Is the last human being that I see.
Now, that depends on choices that we make starting in 2004.
That's the fulcrum.
Now, that's if we prolong, if we take care of what we have left of our ecosystem, if we prolong life as long as we can, then the last human being alive exists in 2004.
art bell
Okay, but a very important question would be, Aaron, if things don't begin to turn around, when will present systems, economic and social systems, be so stressed and so broken down that we basically have a mad max scenario?
Obviously, somewhere long before 2304, which is the last gasp, things will be untenable.
When does that part begin?
aaron donahue
The economic slump will begin for the U.S. and will become noticeable in 2005, but the economy does not fail.
art bell
All right, got that.
I remember that.
aaron donahue
Because we have specific people that are trained to look for order within the chaos of markets, and we keep the markets alive, and we gear the markets towards a European market.
So many of us are working in Europe who I have trained, who F.M. Bonsol has trained as well.
This is what we see when you view it in the future.
art bell
Yes, but surely before the last human dies, there's going to be a period of time that's just not going to be real sociable.
aaron donahue
If we have a nuclear exchange, then couple that with the one-two punch of a peak oil production downswing.
art bell
Put some dates on that.
aaron donahue
Yes, I have dates on that.
And you combine that with an abrupt ecological change?
art bell
Well, go ahead and put some dates on it.
aaron donahue
Okay.
This is fascinating.
If we go into nuclear exchange as a result of Bush inflaming things between China and the United States, and that's quite likely because of dwindling resources, then you will see a drastic reduction or a die-off of large numbers of human beings between the year 2009 and 2030.
By the time we reach 2055, you're going to see human extinction.
It's gone.
There's no more humans.
You can't live on the planet.
I mean, we're polluted as it is now.
You should see what it feels like then.
The flies are thick because of the decaying matter so much that they block the sun, and it's deafening in some cases.
Flies, the air is stale, and there's fungus everywhere.
The only place where you find people alive, there are very few of them, along seashores.
They don't go up in the mountains because there's no oxygen.
And they don't live down in caves.
They're along seashores.
And I wondered why.
Because of plankton.
It's the only source of oxygen left.
art bell
And so those few sympathetic surviving humans will go to the seashore and try and take the last of the oxygen available.
aaron donahue
Otherwise, oxygen farms there from the technology that we develop has something to do with the movement of the sea.
art bell
First time caller line, you're on the air with cheerful Aaron.
unidentified
Hello.
art bell
Hi.
unidentified
Hi, I'm Zoe.
art bell
Zoe.
Okay.
Zoe, you're going to have to speak up.
unidentified
Okay, I'm sorry.
And I listen to you on my computer.
art bell
Okay.
unidentified
Which I have no idea what the name of it is, but I listen to you on my computer.
And I'm calling from Pendleton, Oregon.
art bell
All right.
unidentified
And I really do believe a lot of what Erin has to say.
I used to be a Christian, and in the Bible it mentions a lot of the things that Erin had mentioned about being marked and things like that.
art bell
All of this really is true.
I mean, it tracks in an eerie kind of way.
And if you swapped a few words, you could be a preacher.
unidentified
I don't think it's eerie.
I think it's true.
And I think that the faster it comes along, I think the better it will be.
One question I want to ask, Erin, though, is I think the oceans are dying.
Now, if the oceans die, what happens to us?
aaron donahue
You're correct.
The oceans are dying, and it's the saddest thing.
It is horrible.
And you know, we're developing war.
We're getting ready for a global conflict, and we're developing technologies.
You don't even know the half of it.
I know most of it.
art bell
I bet we don't know the half of it.
aaron donahue
It's horrible what we're doing to our marine life because of these technologies involving communications.
And, you know, President Bush is given the okay to develop everything between HAARP.
And by the way, we're going to begin.
I'm going to get in trouble for this, but I have to do it because I'm so incensed by it.
If we re-elect President Bush.
unidentified
He will be re-elected.
aaron donahue
Yes, unfortunately, I can't say that, unfortunately.
I'm sorry.
There's something else behind this that I can't really talk about.
It's not unfortunate, but it's just the way it is.
We have to accept this because we're powerless.
We can't break the laws.
We've got to go with the system, and there is a system in place that we've got to work for peacefully.
And that may require President Bush being re-elected.
unidentified
But sometimes peacefully doesn't really bring along what needs to be done.
aaron donahue
Peacefully doesn't mean you lay down and let yourself get nailed.
art bell
Hold on, Aaron.
Young lady, hold on.
We'll be right back.
Rough stuff in the middle of the night.
unidentified
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art bell
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ladies and gentlemen flight six six six is boarding just over there from the last Once again, Erin Donahue.
And Erin, I bring back with me the young lady we were discussing things with a moment ago.
Are you still there?
unidentified
Yes, I am.
Okay.
art bell
Good.
Anything else?
I didn't want to just cut you off there.
unidentified
Well, I wanted to find out how can we keep So it is rumored, yes.
And that they're building railroad railings or, you know, to transport people to these camps.
art bell
Okay, let's take that one and run with it.
Aaron, there are.
There are rumors all over the place, have been for years, that there are these barbed wire encampments that pilots have reported they've seen from the air.
And, you know, it's pretty deep conspiracy stuff.
Is there anything to it?
aaron donahue
Well, first of all, I'm not a conspiracy person, but conspiracy can be fun and sometimes scary.
In this case, there's no conspiracy.
Like with NASA, there's no conspiracy to cover anything up on Mars.
In this case, there's no conspiracy to throw people away in camps.
First of all, there will be camps, and they'll be highly visible, and we want to make them visible to people so they know they don't want to go there.
And camps are never something that's hidden or precluding something else.
It's something that's upfront with everyone, and it has to be for psychological reasons and for reasons that involve crowd control.
The psychological fact that they're there alone will really keep people in order.
Now, here's the thing.
We will have camps in the future, and many of them, and more than we need.
But the camps will not be in countries like the United States, not right away.
There will be a centralized government, and the United States does have plans that involve crowd control for other reasons, but not reasons that concern a singular world government or United World European Council.
It's not going to be like that.
So that camp that you're seeing, if it is a camp, has nothing whatsoever to do with the United World Council.
art bell
Not what's coming.
aaron donahue
No, no.
What's coming is going to be far more spooky to those people who might resist.
And it should be.
art bell
You know, since you're, well, sort of there in the design stage, what would these camps be like?
I mean, how uncomfortable would they be?
Or comfortable?
aaron donahue
I'm not in the design stage, but they will be processing camps, and they will involve counseling, and we'll be giving people options of what to do with their lives and their future.
Of course, they'll be separated from the families and so on.
But the thing about this is that they'll be giving a primary choice.
The choice is you can have your chip removed and you can be exiled.
Or you can be re-socialized and you'll be watched and you'll be cared for and you'll be given a position where you might work planting genetically altered trees, conifers, that are designed to produce the greatest amount of oxygen and prevent soil erosion and so on.
And you'll be producing a liquid green food to feed the masses.
art bell
So the good old soil ain't green, I suppose?
aaron donahue
I suspect that it's more to do with chlorella, which has both RNA and DNA within it and thrives in ionizing radiation.
art bell
Yeah, Ed's mentioned chlorella.
aaron donahue
Yes.
It's going to be a future source of nutrition for people, and it's within the nucleus of this particular organism, which, by the way, thrives in ionizing radiation.
This organism is thought to be one of the first foods, but within its nucleus is the world's most powerful antioxidant.
And we need antioxidants in the future that are that powerful just to keep our immune system in order because of our environment.
It's just so ruined.
We have to be healthy.
And so antioxidants, extreme antioxidants, play a major role in keeping a population healthy.
art bell
So there would be the administration of those certainly as well at Camp New World or whatever.
aaron donahue
Well, these are just aspects of the camps that I've viewed.
And they're perfectly humane.
And now, I don't, okay, Art, I'm going to say it.
We deprogram the religiosity from people.
We deprogram Christians and Muslims.
unidentified
Take that religion right out of them.
aaron donahue
Yes, they're deprogrammed there.
And rather, you have to put it into context.
It's a secular society, but yet there's a spiritual component.
And if you don't adhere to the spiritual component of that society in the future...
art bell
How would you deprogram somebody from their religious belief?
That's quite a job.
aaron donahue
I deprogrammed my own parents.
art bell
Well, how?
aaron donahue
It's actually quite easy to do that.
unidentified
How?
aaron donahue
Truth.
You make them see it, and you live by an example.
And in my case, there were several ways that really cued my parents in that they have been manipulated.
For example, angelic possession or angelic influences outside of your awareness.
It's a matter of timing.
If you teach a person how to watch themselves and how they behave and their timing, they'll realize that there are some things that you do in your life, you don't know why you did them.
art bell
I'm still stuck on the phrase angelic possession.
That's pretty wild.
Got to think backwards when a person talks to you.
Let's see.
Wild card line, you're on the air with Aaron Donahue.
Hello.
unidentified
Hi, Art.
art bell
Hi.
unidentified
You and I both said soiling green at the same time.
art bell
Really?
unidentified
Aaron, first of all, a few truths and then a question.
Jad, Jesus said Lucifer is the father, but the father of lies, deception, cunning, deceptive, cunning, the most can imagine, as I'm hearing tonight.
The hope we have dominion over this world, over animals, over demons, through what Christ had conquered at the cross.
Another thing I heard you say, we got to remove the holy angels because, and then we've got to get to the demonic level.
Isn't it true that Satan cannot tread on holy ground?
He cannot do his work that belongs to God, and that's why you're saying all this.
art bell
Okay, well, hold it.
Pause.
Let's get some kind of answer here.
Okay.
That Satan can't tread on that ground.
What about that, Aaron?
aaron donahue
Well, what I have to say overall is this.
You know your scripture.
So do I. Christ said, it's best to know thine enemy.
I know it quite well.
Let me put it this way: Christ himself.
Yeah.
Christ himself said, referred to himself as the morning star, did he not?
unidentified
That was in a statement.
He said, I am the morning star.
aaron donahue
Okay, what is the morning star?
unidentified
Okay, I know the morning star also means.
aaron donahue
Venus.
What is Venus?
In life.
unidentified
Venus is the planet of love.
aaron donahue
To you, maybe, but if you go back from Hebrew, your own Bible, which you need to learn, I don't mean to be crash.
unidentified
No, no, I don't.
aaron donahue
I'm going to apologize for that, but it's just that you're making some statements about the Bible that are only half true.
You need to look at what the Bible is really saying.
Do you know what I'm saying?
unidentified
Ma'am, Aaron.
art bell
Stop.
Slow up.
Ma'am, go ahead and ask one more question.
Okay.
Then we'll give it back to Aaron.
Ma'am?
unidentified
Yes.
art bell
Yes, go ahead.
unidentified
Oh, okay.
When he went down to hell and got the keys, he has it locked up.
And he knew.
And he knew.
He said, it's done and it's finished.
Do you know what he meant by that, Aaron?
art bell
Aaron?
aaron donahue
Well, first of all, who is he and what are you referring to?
Because I don't believe in any of this.
I've looked at this.
It's a bunch of nonsense.
There's a great deal in the Bible that doesn't make any sense.
So please enlighten me.
What are you talking about?
art bell
All right.
You know, how did you come to these conclusions about the Bible?
aaron donahue
Oh, my.
First of all, you start with Hebrew.
You look at the origin of the Bible, and then you work your way out there.
This whole thing about the Bible code, for example, is being some sort of proof that the Bible is of a higher intelligence and somehow God was involved.
Yes.
Let me put it this way.
Libra Alveligis, you can apply a code to that particular book as well, which is the opposite of the Bible in many ways.
And you'll discover amazing correlations between words and verses, and you'll understand and learn great things about the future.
What you're getting with the Bible is an angelic-inspired deception.
It was designed to destroy the way you look at yourself and your future.
art bell
You're telling me both produce numerically significant results.
aaron donahue
You bet they did.
art bell
Both books, huh?
aaron donahue
We're all systems of information.
And the intelligence that gave Aleister Crowley that particular book also had a system, a code that you could use to decipher it.
And these things work on your subconscious mind when you read them.
And the Bible is designed to distort your reality and distort who you think you are and to prevent you from being successful in the future.
Like I say, it's a Christian world that we live in.
Your world is dying.
It's over.
Look what your Christian world did.
I'm not talking you art.
I'm speaking.
art bell
I understand, general.
aaron donahue
But look what the Christian world has done.
The Christian world right now in the West is about ready to throw us into a nuclear war.
And right now, the Bush administration is looking at bringing up, testing, and trouble.
The neutron bomb project must be thwarted.
This is what Christians are doing to the planet.
They're destroying our oceans with communication devices.
They're destroying marine life in our oceans with communication devices.
They're destroying our atmosphere.
art bell
You know what?
Aaron, it's not just the Christian world.
Where do you get that?
I mean, the Chinese area.
aaron donahue
I'm speaking here in the West.
art bell
Okay, but talk about the Chinese, for example.
They're overwhelming.
I've been to China.
Go to China, Communist China.
You'll be very impressed, Aaron.
Very impressed.
aaron donahue
I've been in the East, and it's horrible, and I totally agree with you.
Now, the Chinese don't have a belief system.
And this is where I come in with the spiritual form of a community.
We need spirituality, true spirituality.
We need it to be combined with science and reality.
We need to prove what it is that we're asking into our body.
We need to see what that is.
And we can do it.
With remote viewing alone, you can gain all kinds of answers.
With Pan, you can gain even more answers about spirituality.
Exactly what's going on.
art bell
All right.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air with Aaron Donahue.
Hello.
Hello.
Going once.
Going twice.
Gone.
West of the Rockies, you're on the air with Aaron Donahue.
unidentified
Hello.
And good evening, Art and Aaron.
I'm wondering if Aaron has looked at the possibility that sometime in the far distant future, human brains will be basically plugged into computers, and that's why he can't get beyond about 2,700.
All right.
art bell
It's an interesting question.
Certainly, you were headed that way, or you thought technology was, Aaron.
aaron donahue
Yes.
Because our Earth is dying, people are frantic, and so they transfer their consciousness.
They give up their bodies at a certain point in the future, and they transfer their consciousness into a computer matrix.
Because it becomes uncomfortable to survive and live on a dying planet.
And so they willingly give up their bodies, and they transfer their consciousness into this matrix.
But the matrix is, it's got a flaw.
I don't know what that flaw is.
And I think it's because we had to put together the program so quickly.
And some of the hardware is flawed as well.
And it's a nightmare for anyone who's caught in it.
And when you make contact with any of the humans in it that were once human, they're begging to die.
They want to warn you right now, don't go into the machine.
Don't become a ghost in that matrix.
Stay out of it.
I agree.
art bell
This is not cheery stuff, Aaron.
aaron donahue
No.
art bell
I mean, it's just not cheery stuff.
aaron donahue
It's our only alternative when we go extinct, and extinction is so scary.
People take their chance with the matrix.
It's a computer matrix.
art bell
Wildcard line, you're on the air with Aaron Donahue.
unidentified
Hello.
I was wondering if.
Aaron, do you believe that authors can see future events and not know it and use that as material for their books?
aaron donahue
Pardon me, see who?
art bell
he's asking, do you believe that authors, people who write books, can see the future and then use that material for their books?
aaron donahue
Yes, I believe that there are some, you know, science fiction writers have demonstrated an uncanny ability to see some things, but not with clarity.
We're all inherently psychic, and science fiction writers especially seem to tap into right brain functioning, and they tend to reflect it quite well.
Yeah.
So, yes, H.G. Wells, for example, is in his Bringing Back the Old Ones and that sort of mythology that he cranked out is just very interesting.
And there's some question whether or not the Mad Arab really did write that prior to his work.
unidentified
Yeah, I was...
aaron donahue
I'm sorry.
unidentified
There's a book by Arthur C. Clarke called Childhood's End.
Have you heard of it?
aaron donahue
Yeah, yeah, oh, yes, yeah.
unidentified
Okay.
Because a lot of what you say sounds like yes, very much so.
aaron donahue
I mean, it's not dead on with what you're saying, but it's not all that close, but yeah, there's some similarities there.
There's some similarities, a lot of signs.
art bell
Okay.
East of the Rockies, we're kind of short on time.
You're on there with Aaron Donahue.
unidentified
Hello.
Is this East of the Rockies?
art bell
Yes, it is.
unidentified
Okay.
art bell
Yell at us on your very week.
unidentified
This is Barb in Milwaukee, and the Kabbalah Center has put out a book called The 72 Names of God.
And every time he brings up this 72 tones or 72 demons, it throws me into that mindset.
And I was wondering if he has a comment about that.
aaron donahue
Yes, the Shem Hem Foresh.
Is that what you're referring to?
unidentified
Well, my friend sent me the book, and then you say these 72 names of God, and they relate to certain things like prosperity or curing things.
And I didn't know if those were the tones that you were working with also.
aaron donahue
These are the peripheral manifestations of the tones.
Now, these tones refer to a gate, or Lucifer's gate, into a higher information system.
This is the true name of Lucifer, our progenitor.
And so, yes, the occult connection between the two is unmistakable, absolutely.
unidentified
So actually, it's not per se, the way we're talking tonight, the 72 names of God.
It's the 72 names of Lucifer.
aaron donahue
That's correct.
Our Creator is Lucifer, or for all intents and purposes, our God.
It will, for a short time, become the God of the human race.
It will replace all the other gods until we understand more about it.
unidentified
So you, in effect, conjured up these demons by saying these tones.
Is that what I'm doing when I say these names to you?
aaron donahue
We hope so, and it can only benefit mankind.
And I've released the demons, by the way.
They're now learning our nervous systems.
art bell
I bet you do get some email.
aaron donahue
Yeah, I do.
art bell
All right, listen, we're almost out of time, Aaron.
Do you want to go ahead and give people your website?
Because even though the link is there, it's not eternal.
aaron donahue
Okay.
This would be umo.cc.
art bell
.cc.
Oh, that's a new one.
And people have to remember that.
Not .com, but .cc.
So it's umo.cc.
Now, I want to warn people, there really are objectionable things to a lot of Christians on that website.
So proceed with caution.
As I tried to get people to do the whole evening, I have enjoyed having you on.
You're a very interesting, disturbing person.
But you probably know that already.
aaron donahue
Oh, yes.
And I take it as a compliment from you.
You're a master at this.
Thank you.
It's been just a wonderful time.
The best interview I've ever had.
Thank you.
art bell
Thank you, Aaron.
Good night.
aaron donahue
Good night.
art bell
All right.
There, ladies and gentlemen, is Aaron Donahue.
And there are going to be many, many reactions to what he had to say.
And I'm still sort of computing my own reactions to a lot of what he had to say.
Very interesting.
But again, that is the core purpose of this program, to bring you things like this that you don't hear anywhere else.
And it has been my pleasure doing so once again this weekend, reminding you next weekend I will be off, as in not here, not conspiratorially removed in some manner, but putting up a big antenna, I hope.
In the meantime, it's Crystal Gale that sings the words, Goodnight.
Good night.
unidentified
Good night in the desert, shooting stars across the sky.
This magical day will take the sun arise.
Filled with belonging, searching for the truth.
We make it to tomorrow when the sun shine on you.
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