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Jan. 11, 2004 - Art Bell
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Coast to Coast AM with Art Bell - Dr. Richard Boylan - Star Children
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town called Pahrump, Nevada.
How's that for a name?
I'm Art Bell, and of course, this is Coast to Coast AM, weekend version, and Ramona and myself spent the day Exactly like the cat in the picture on my webcam.
That, by the way, is Shadow.
And you will see here, draped over the couch.
That's where we were, draped over the couch, watching playoff football.
Even though my teams have done abysmally, abysmally this year, I have, uh, well, I guess I've gotten caught up in the playoffs, and I wanted to see if the devils of Kansas City got their And then I don't know what happened.
You know, I'm a Green Bay fan.
Loosely a Green Bay fan.
And... I tell ya... The devil made Brett Favre throw that pass.
The devil had to have done it.
There was no one down there.
He just, you know, at an incredibly critical moment in the last couple of minutes of the game, just did a Brett Favre, and just, poof, let it loose.
And that was it.
So the Eagles continue.
But at least the evil Kansas City didn't prevail.
So there was something to the day.
So we spent it lounge-lizarded on the couch just like that very cat that I took a picture of this afternoon who lounged with us.
So what's going on in the world?
We're going to do open lines here in a moment.
Under fire in a campaign debate, Howard Dean conceded grudgingly Sunday night that he never named a black or Latino to his cabinet during the nearly 12 years He had his governor of Vermont.
I guess he was served up that zinger by Al Sharpton.
Impatience with Iraq's occupying forces.
They are impatient over there.
Boiled over Sunday as unemployed Iraqis pelted British troops with thank yous and love.
No, actually stones.
And a top Shiite Muslim cleric demanded the country's next parliament be elected, a position at odds with American plans.
Now, I didn't get an opportunity to see 60 Minutes, but I am assured by Fastblast that there was a, it's bigger than Watergate type story, right?
Ex-Secretary of the Treasury Paul O'Neill came out with a book, The Price of Loyalty, right?
How the administration was planning war with Iraq before 9-11.
Well, I wouldn't be shocked by that, really.
I think I halfway believe it myself.
I think there were probably plans to finish off what Dad started, And, uh, they went on to say they divided up all the, uh, oil booty to be had, uh, beforehand.
I don't know about that, but, uh... Yes.
I think it's possible that we, uh, very well knew what we were going to do, whatever.
I mean, America does not traditionally do that, but then... What if there had not been 9-11?
We would not have had... Would we have then?
Wouldn't there have been a much...
Bigger hue and cry when we invaded Iraq, had there not been 9-11.
Much, much bigger.
Without immediate provocation, their words of weapons of mass destruction pending over our industrial heads aside, there really wasn't very much justification to do what we did.
You know, that's history, and as I've said before, now we are there, and we have to figure out how to finish it off.
You know, kind of like Brett Favre there in the last couple of minutes.
You've got to manage to close the deal, right?
And that's what we've got to do with Iraq now.
Without getting too many more Americans and other allies killed, we've got to figure a way to close the deal.
more in a moment.
Incidentally, a lot of people already think I am the mad scientist.
of people already think I am the mad scientist.
I'm...
I'm the mad ham radio operator.
I'm going to double the size of my already very large antenna.
It's presently a thousand foot loop, what's called a thousand foot loop, with two actual loops and then mesh underneath on the ground, soaring into the air.
Well, I acquired another piece of property that was critical to the continuation of my madness.
And so that connects, you see, to yet another piece of property that I happen to have.
And so the loop will then soon grow and extend to five acres of madness.
It's going to be really big.
And, you know, people just shake their heads at me.
Mars.
I'm just shaking my head about Mars.
Rocks.
But it is, of course, a very, very interesting mission.
And the soil that the rover hit as it bounced down is apparently really interesting and weird stuff.
The rover's coming off its little stand to examine that a whole lot more.
One of the things they have found on Mars so far would appear to be the evidence of water on the red planet.
Of course, that would lead one to the, I don't know if it's an inevitable conclusion, but certainly probability that, you know, you've got water and air, you've got Life, probably.
But something happened to the life on Mars.
Something jolting.
Something catastrophic.
Something biblical.
Who did I say that?
And then, as I mentioned to the audience last night, and wish to mention to you again, we get this story from the journal Nature, you know, the well-respected journal Nature.
Climate change, extinction, a threat to 25% of animals.
What the scientists are saying, and they are the scientists that are saying this, are they, in our lifetimes, well, maybe not mine, but most many of you, the planet will lose fully one quarter of all of the plant and animal species that are here right now.
You give that a little bit of thought.
One, twenty-five percent of everything... Gone.
Because of climate change.
That's the latest in nature.
You're definitely going to... You're really going to want to take a hard look at that.
Think really hard about it.
Well, this is an interesting case.
Apparently, um, at a Burger King drive-in, some teenage pranksters learned how to hack into the wireless frequency.
Uh, you know, they have the little gal who comes on and asks you what you would like, right?
Whatever.
Well, the teenagers are hacking into it.
Policeman Jerry Sherlink said the pranksters told one customer who had just placed an order, you need, uh, you don't need a couple of whoppers, you're too fat.
Pull, pull ahead.
The offenders are reportedly tapping into the wireless frequency at the restaurant in Troy, Michigan.
Please plead, the culprits are watching and broadcasting from close range.
Probably so they can see the reaction of the astounded customer, right?
You think what about me?
That's the sort of thing that perhaps when I was much younger, well, I may have considered.
Hey, the father of the euro, that's the money in Europe, right?
The euro now thinks that there should be a new global currency.
So that's right, the US dollar would be kaput.
And we'd probably have to use some of that funny colored European money.
Not good.
But he'd like to do it.
Robert Mundell, a Nobel Prize winning economist, often credited with paving the way to the European single currency, has now called for a global currency.
I wonder how you all feel about that?
Having to give up your dollars for some shiny little colored hunk of paper that would be a world currency, spendable.
Oh, it would make trade so easy, wouldn't it?
Everybody had the same money, imagine.
Probably going to go that way.
The new world is coming, whether we like it or not, and the answer is mostly not.
It is occurring.
Now, fortunately and hopefully with regard to the way I feel about it, not in my lifetime, but I see an irreversible trend.
Don't you?
One world this, one world that.
The world shrinks with more communication.
Satellites ring the planet.
Everybody talks to everybody in the immediate.
Billions of dollars trade in the air overnight in the ether as the satellites buzz around us.
So, It is a morphing into a one world kind of place and eventually I suppose all borders will disappear and you can see it coming.
I definitely don't like it because I'm as red-blooded American as anybody else and the idea of erasing the borders and all that we are especially in the world doesn't appeal to me one bit.
A New Mexico funeral home owner Received the surprise of his career, I'll bet he did, when a man pronounced dead at a hospital and then taken to life here at the funeral home, suddenly decided to come back to life just before he was going to be embalmed.
In other words, we had reached the point where you were there in the funeral home and they were going to embalm you.
This is passing a lot of hurdles of, he's dead, and a fellow named Well, Russell Muffley, owner of Muffley's Funeral Home in Clovis, New Mexico, said he noticed Felipe Pidila breathing when the man was pronounced dead after he was pronounced dead at a hospital as he was being transferred to his facility on Wednesday.
He was rushed back to the same hospital immediately, of course.
In fact, you'd think they'd be rushing back the The fellow at the funeral home, right?
As well as this fellow, but he didn't recover.
He was declared dead a second time.
And I guess they waited probably the maximum amount of time before embalming him, and then went on with business.
But yeah, that would give you the shock of your life, wouldn't it?
Well, alright.
Let us do some open lines and see what's on your mind out there, shall we?
Anything you want to talk about at this hour is absolute fair game.
In the next hour, we will speak with Dr. Richard Boylan, who will talk, among other things, about something that... Well, I guess some talk show hosts can discuss this matter of star children.
That is to say, perhaps, children on the planet now that are seeds of Alien-human combinations.
I mean, this is... This man has a PhD.
And that's what he's here to talk about tonight.
But to me, the whole concept of Star Children, while appealing in the, uh, in fantasy, just, it just... It's a kind of a reach, right?
A little bit of a reach for me, but, uh, but maybe, maybe, you never know, maybe they're here now.
Who am I to know of the billions on this planet?
I know darn few of them, personally.
So, could be.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hello.
Is that me?
That's you!
Alright.
About 50 years ago, I invented a high-pneumatic drive.
A what?
A high-pneumatic drive.
A high-pneumatic drive?
Yes, and it's a machine that runs on its own energy.
Oh!
And it uses between 1 to 5 percent of its power to run it.
And I never did nothing with it because oil was so cheap.
Meaning, sir, hold it.
Meaning that you get it started with 1 to 5 percent or you have to continuously use 1 to 5 percent.
I have to continually use 1 to 5 percent of its energy.
All righty.
To keep it in perpetual motion.
Now, you made a challenge.
Oh, yes?
Now, if I make this thing up, what kind of security do you have?
Me?
That it won't be stolen.
Oh, that it wouldn't be stolen.
Um, well, let's see.
I've said I would like to have somebody send me so much as even a free energy toy.
And you're offering a free energy drill.
Pneumatic thing.
It's a high pneumatic drive.
Well, I don't have any security.
I mean, I've got personal security and that kind of thing, but I'm not sure I'd die for your drill.
Well, it's a machine that runs a generator, in other words.
I just wonder what kind of security you have.
Have you already built this?
I built a small one a long time ago.
I'm going to build a smaller one now.
Even a smaller one?
Yes.
Usually people build bigger ones.
A big one, now see the big one would use 1-5%.
The small one would take around about 45-50% to run it, because it's so small.
It's going to be about, oh, 6 feet high by about... Wait, I'm thinking of something.
if you use 45, 50 percent of the power to run it, then eventually it's going to run
down.
No, no.
Never, huh?
No.
It continues to use its own energy.
It does not deplete at that rate?
No.
Okay.
Well, alright.
You contact me by email.
I have indeed issued this challenge, so if you got the goods, I'll figure out a way to have security and have the time to examine it.
Alright?
Yeah.
All right, so contact me by email.
I'm artbell at minespring.com or artbell at aol.com.
That is general information for all of you.
If you'd like to email me, artbell, a-r-t-b-e-l-l, all lowercase at minespring.com or artbell at aol.com.
West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hello.
Hello.
Art, this is Chris up in Fairbanks, Alaska.
Hey, Chris.
It's actually pretty warm up here, warmer than New York.
How warm?
It's one above.
Oh, all of one above zero.
Well, yeah, that's a tropical heat wave for us.
Actually, for Fairbanks it is, yeah.
I'll listen to you on Kayak FM, or AM up here.
Yes, sir.
And you had mentioned yesterday about the Mars rocks, about how the picture is just, your mind is pretty much just making it look like whatever you want.
Well... I agree with you.
Yeah, that's right.
I mean, I think that's the natural human tendency, you know, to try and make order out of chaos, of course.
Well, I came up with this idea, and there was one other thing I wanted to discuss after this, but the idea was this.
You mentioned that if you could go out to Death Valley, you could take a picture out there that would look just like the Mars rocks.
What we ought to do is have people go out to different desert locations like that.
And do exactly that.
Do exactly that.
Change the background for the sky.
Or maybe, sir, or maybe, you know, Sedona would be good.
Because Sedona, for example, is pretty much red.
There's an area just To the west side of Las Vegas called Red Rock, that would be good.
Or the Death Valley floor would be ideal.
And my contention is that if you took a picture of selected areas in those places and then you were to turn it over to someone, here's the latest strip from Mars, you know, they'd find something.
They'd find a shoe, an old implement, something.
And of course you remember Wayne Green about his moon doggle.
I might come back and say that Mars is the same thing, though.
Right.
But the other thing I wanted to mention was the collective consciousness you talked about.
Yes.
It reminded me of something I read in the Bible once, in Genesis 11, verse 6.
I'm not going to quote it to you, I'll just tell you the first part.
Paraphrase it.
It basically said that people were one, they had one language, and because they were one and had one language, nothing would be restrained from them that they imagined to do.
Well, let's do that with Osama Bin Laden.
Pick a good night when there's a lot of listeners on.
Pretty much we're all hearing in one language now anyways, English.
And we can all concentrate on Osama Bin Laden being found.
Yeah, why not?
Well, I guess that wouldn't be so bad.
I thought you were going to have him have a coronary or something.
Well, no, no.
I mean, inevitably, the Prime Minister of Canada would then fall down dead and we'd get blamed.
You see, those are the kinds of things that I'm worried about with all of this, and it's why I don't experiment in these areas.
I'm not even sure about what you just said, because... Well, if we find him, people will realize, hey, this is something real.
You know, of course, the government will probably want to investigate into it and be upset with you, but...
Something awful would happen.
They'd get him cornered in a cave, and we'd have a bunch of troops there, and he'd light off the only nuclear weapon he'd laid his hands on so far.
Something... it's just tampering with things that we don't know about.
Oh, and one other quick thing.
What is this free energy device challenge you have?
Because I have a device I built.
I don't know if you'd call it free energy.
Well, look, all I've ever said, it's not really a challenge.
I've just said, look, for God's sakes, if there's really such a thing out there as a free energy advice, bring me one.
You know, a toy.
I don't care.
Anything that demonstrates overunity.
I'd jump all over it.
Nobody's ever sent one.
Well, this thing uses a special gas I developed, called a build.
And then you put that through this, you know, Well sir, you better get to me before the oil companies get to you.
Gotta go.
We're at a break point here.
More ways than one.
I'm Art Doh.
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Do you know that the heart of this house?
Aboomba You got me running, going out of my mind
You got me thinking that I'm wasting my time Pulling me down
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I'm telling you it's gotta be in the air Don't bring me down
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Well, how y'all doing?
It's the weekend, albeit the end of the weekend, but still the weekend.
Not well, I suppose, in some time zones.
It's already tipped into Monday, hasn't it?
I'll tell you a little interesting story that occurred Actually, the day before, it was Friday.
It would have been Friday.
It was a very interesting day.
My network calls up on Friday, and we always check out my uplink, you know, the thing that sends my signal from here to there, to the satellite, and then onward across our great nation.
So I cranked it up, as usual, and, woe and behold, it wasn't working!
Something was wrong.
You could type, and you could hear a little tink-tink-tink as you typed.
You know, it makes a little sound, but nothing I typed brought any response.
It was a blank screen with only a blinking cursor.
Well, you know, the keyboard plugged into the bottom of the monitor, and then from the monitor it came out.
So I didn't think anything about it, and I thought, well, we're dead.
This time, we're really dead.
This is a true story.
And I had worked on it, you know, hassled with it and worked on it all day long, trying to get something, some any little thing from it, and I couldn't.
And I finally wrote it off, and I said, oh well, you know, we'll do the program on ISDN, which is a different way to carry the program, you know, sort of a backup thing.
Anyway, I went to bed.
It was about 5.30 in the morning, and I was almost asleep.
Right on the very edge of sleep, and I was thinking about this, and I thought, you know, wait a minute, the keyboard plugs into the bottom of the monitor, which is unusual.
Let me think, how does the rest of it go?
Well, the rest of it goes out of the back of the monitor, comes a cable, which goes to a modem, where there's a switch, and then back down to the DTV-100, which is a digital thingy at the bottom, transmitter, converter, and I thought, you know what?
And I was just about to sleep, I mean right on the very edge of sleep, and somehow, in my head, I saw that connector as being off.
Buck naked, I ran across the house, pulled the uplink rack out of the closet, where we keep it, and looked down, and I'll be damned, there was that cable, pulled out, I reached down, put it in firmly once again, and success!
And the reason I told that story is because there's one of those things that the mind works on all day long.
It was bugging the you-know-what out of me, and I worked on it all day long, and then just that instant before full sleep, it hit me like a rock.
I could see it.
I ran across the house naked, pulled it out.
What a sight, huh?
And there was that connector not connected. Plugged it in and all was well.
And we plunge back into the unknown.
First-time caller line, you are on the air.
Hello.
Hello, Art.
Hi.
I'm actually a many-time caller.
I'm sorry.
You are?
Yeah.
Well, then you can't be on this line.
You have violated the rules.
You have violated severely the rules, and moreover, you have admitted you have violated the rules, which means that you must call another line.
You can't call up on that line and have the first sentence out of your mouth be, I'm a many-time caller, Art.
You know that's reserved for first-timers only.
Wildcard line, you are on the air.
Hello.
Hi, is that me?
That would be you.
Hi, Art.
I've enjoyed listening to your show for, I don't know, since about 95 or so.
Quite a while.
Oh, yeah.
One of the things I've been wondering about with these Mars missions, with the landers on there, Do you know if they have in the plans of also including a microphone system on the lander so we could hear the winds?
That's a really good point.
A really good point because a microphone and audio as compared to the video that they send back would take very little bandwidth and wouldn't that be cool to be able to hear Mars?
There is enough atmosphere I believe to hear, isn't there?
I would think so.
Yes.
There's enough atmosphere for the FT's parachute, so... The sound of Mars.
Yeah, I think people would go berserk to be able to hear Mars.
I would.
And pass that along to Hoagland.
Maybe he's got some connections and they can do something about it.
Well, uh, imagine what we'd go through then.
Every little buzz and click would be ABORTION!
Well, anyway, I think that'd be pretty interesting.
It sure would, thank you.
Now there's a guy with a good idea.
Now why has NASA not provided for a An audio feed of some sort from Mars.
There would be, I believe, enough atmosphere, right?
And it would be tantalizing.
Well, maybe they just don't believe there's any sound on Mars.
Save the wind.
That's it.
They have big storms, wind storms, on Mars.
Some almost perpetual, actually.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hello?
Hello?
Yes?
Hey, Art?
Yes?
Hi, this is Dustin from South Dakota.
Dustin.
Yes, Dustin.
I was calling in regards to that call you got about the guy doing some digging in the Rockies there.
Oh, yeah, of course, the guy who got cut off, who did the digging and very suspicious.
Has there been a follow up to that yet?
No.
Have I received an email from him?
No.
Have I received another call?
No.
Or any attempt at communication?
Zip.
Nothing.
So, either the guy was messing with us, or they got him.
Yeah.
Dude, can you run that on the air again?
The call?
That call?
Uh, well, of course, we can do anything.
Um, but, uh... My friend, it's kind of hard for me to explain that to other people, trying to explain that call to them without them hearing it.
There's so many people I wanted to have hear that call.
That was a very strange call, I admit.
I'll see what I can do.
I'll put in a request.
I appreciate that.
All right, take care.
Sure, why not.
Wes for the Rockies, you are on the air.
Hi.
Hi Art.
I just looked in my calendar to see whether we still had a, you know, whether the full moon was now, but it was actually a week ago.
That's right.
That's earlier.
But this is one of those zingy nights, it seems.
Anyway, well, I called to say something about the Star Children, but also to say that Al Sharpton's remark was really unfair, because there are essentially no blacks or Hispanics in Vermont, and that was... Well, that sounds a little hard to believe.
Pardon?
That's a little hard to believe.
Well, I've heard it's something like one-tenth of one percent population that are smart.
Yeah, I know it would be by percentage of certainly smart.
Well, I mean, maybe you should have thought of this.
Who knows when he started thinking about becoming president?
Well, Al Sharpton is, you know, his name fits, right?
Yeah.
I mean, he's a real shark.
Yeah.
Anyway.
Well, and then the other thing is that Oh God, I just lost it.
Star, the Star Children.
Yeah, no, there was something else too, but I just lost it.
We'll go back to the Star Children.
What do you think about that whole concept?
Do you think there are half and halves here?
Well, I don't know, but I ran into this first back in the 80s, and I once went to a UFO abductees conference in Boston because I was curious, and John Mack Whom I had heard lectured, you know, during the nuclear freeze era when he was, you know, working towards that goal.
Yes.
Was going to be there and I found him very interesting and of course he was so good looking.
Anyway, so I went to this conference.
Tell me something, does that affect the believability of the speaker?
No, I don't think so.
That was just a plus.
Bud Hopkins was there, and I found the people to be very nice and very open.
I feel comfortable when I'm amongst people who are outside the circle, who are eccentric like me.
But remember the spider and the fly.
Oh, really?
What do you mean?
Well, I mean, and then there's some saying about catching more flies with honey.
Oh, I see.
Well, there were some women who had arranged the conference who really irritated me, and I've felt guilty about it ever since, because they were so amorphous.
They had no hard edges at all.
You couldn't get any pieces of information from them.
And they sent out a flyer before the conference that there was going to be Some project having to do with children who found that they could read their teacher's minds and that they were going to discuss how to help these children cope with ordinary life like school.
Cope?
Cope!
If I, as a child, I would have given nearly anything to be able to have read my teacher's mind.
All I did was annoy most of my teachers.
I really did.
I was, um, as you might imagine, I was, uh... I was a smart aleck in school.
You know?
I'm... I was a... I was a joker in school.
Not always, but, well, yeah, more than not, actually.
I was a wiseacre, so it would have been really cool if you could have read a tea... I mean, imagine if you could read the teacher's mind.
First-time caller line, you're on the air.
Hello.
Holy mackerel, what is that?
That's some weird sound.
Listen to that.
There may be a person there.
Hello?
Hello?
Yeah, this is Greg.
Greg, what the hell was that noise?
Oh, I'm in an 18-wheeler, sir.
Oh, so you had me down on the seat rumbling.
No, that's just the noise from the engine.
I know, I know.
Alright.
What's up?
Oh yeah, last night I heard a lady, a friend of yours you were talking on the radio with, going through a Mojave.
I never found out if you ever got an answer to that.
Yes we did, yes we did.
There is some cut-off, according to people, that goes around.
Yeah, there's a bypass.
Yes, we did get that.
Thank you very, very much for taking the time and trouble to call, but yes, we are very well aware of that.
Very interesting answer to the whole thing.
Wild Card Line, you're on the air.
Hello.
How are you doing tonight, Art?
All right.
How are you?
I'm doing well.
Listen, this is a little bit out of the realm for Coast to Coast, but I did want your expert opinion on who do you think is going to be in the Super Bowl this year?
New England.
the real man uh...
i don't know you really pushing me here i i i i i may be be...
Did you see Indianapolis play today?
No, but I did watch Donovan McNabb.
Oh man, I tell you what.
They didn't make any mistakes.
Every time you gave that team the ball, they went down the field and scored a touchdown.
It was just a classic class in pro football.
They were perfect.
I guess I'd have to say Indianapolis.
Indianapolis is going to be the champion?
You know, right this second, that would be my call.
I mean, if they continue to play like that, they're not stoppable.
I agree with you.
I agree with you.
They've had a very productive season.
And listen, I'm going to hang up and listen to the rest of the show.
You have a good night.
Alright, thank you.
You see, I really have nothing hard-edged against Kansas City, my remarks.
I know I'll get a lot of emails.
Over the years, Kansas City has done me harm.
I mean, we're allowed to bet.
You know, it's legal.
You can bet here in Nevada.
And there are many years where we bet recreationally on pro football here.
And I'll tell you, there is no team in the NFL that has zapped me more times, particularly making hard bets like on San Diego or the Raiders or whatever, than Kansas City.
So was I hoping for their best today?
no and was not he's at the rockies you're on the air hello
hello hello mr bell that would be me of the career voice again and user have missed you over the
last uh... i guess uh... i'd come back into you uh... couple months ago yep
uh... she's gino up in new york uh... yes sir
and uh... i was wondering uh...
whatever happened to one year to favorite guests How's he doing, Gordon Michael Scanlon?
Gordon is fine.
I get to communicate with Gordon fairly regularly, because we're both ham operators, and he's a very special person.
He's fine.
So we could be looking forward to him coming back on sometime to be on here?
Always, always, yes.
Because I know in light of what he said about the The solar flare-ups and that we have had not long ago, the largest ever recorded.
Now I think you may be referring to Ed Dames.
I think maybe about three New Years's ago.
Oh.
He was on and talking about when it gets up to around 500 with the poles reversing constantly.
Yes, yes, yes.
And at that time I think it went up to around 350 or something explosions that had happened and never went above 200 in the 400 years they're looking.
So just wondering how that was measuring out with his recent insights and how he's doing and all that.
Well I don't know but I am watching the current solar conditions and I got a little fast blast a while ago about somebody having sighted an asteroid or something or another headed toward the Sun and there is one particular sunspot pointed just about virtually right at Earth right now and There would be, if it should go off and produce a big flare, a possibility of Earth getting pretty well zapped with our magnetic south pole looking, with the polarity looking south right now, Earth would be fairly vulnerable.
West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hello.
Hi, how are you doing?
I'm doing well.
This is Chris from Missoula, Montana, listening to you on KGVO.
Yes, sir.
That's a pretty good idea that guy had earlier about putting a microphone on a spacecraft.
Wouldn't that be cool?
That would be really cool to be able to listen to what Mars sounds like.
No good on the moon because there's no atmosphere, but yeah, on Mars, I mean, why not?
What would the sound of Mars be?
Probably just... You know, Steve Squires might be kicking himself right now thinking, oh, I should have thought of that.
Why didn't we think about that?
That's right.
Colin, I just wonder, why do people have such a hard time believing that we went to the moon?
I do wonder about that, and I think the answer may be that even today, in this new century, we actually still have a hard time believing that we could do such a thing.
I mean, even today, a lot of people just, they look at the moon, they just don't believe we did it.
I don't know.
But we did.
I'm sure we did.
There's so much proof, you know.
There's so many things that say there's absolutely no way that we could have faked that.
I mean, you look at the movies that are made.
You see, I'm not so sure about that.
Really?
Now, suppose, just for the sake of argument, suppose we had actually wanted to fake it.
Well, maybe we could have actually.
I mean, you know, it could have been done.
On a soundstage, just the way the movie showed it happened and all the rest of that.
So, yeah, I mean, it probably, I mean, if we could go to the moon, then we could certainly fake going to the moon.
You're an amateur radio operator.
Yes, but I do think we went.
There was something I heard that when they say the amateur radio operators actually listened to the astronauts as they got near the moon.
That, I can't Confirm.
It would make sense, certainly, that emitters then were listening on the frequencies.
But now, if they did that, wouldn't they be able to... Isn't there, like, a Doppler effect that can be measured?
There would be a Doppler while the craft was moving, and then there, of course, would be, if they actually could receive from the moon, there would be a specific enough delay.
Right.
Of course, how would you calibrate that delay when you're just hearing it on one side?
So now, you know, Actually, the thing, I believe, could have been faked.
Actually, could have been faked.
We could have pulled that off, but my argument is, and my belief, that we didn't.
I believe we really went.
I think we did, too.
Oh, you do?
I think we did, too.
To say otherwise seems to be insulting towards the thousands of people who were involved in the project.
Absolutely.
In the astronauts themselves, you know?
No, absolutely.
We went to the moon, and we're about to go back.
The big news, of course, is the president's going to concentrate on the moon, folks.
That's going to be, maybe, look for that speech, perhaps Wednesday, our president will say, we're going to go to the moon, we're going to establish a base, and then someday from there, we're going to go to Mars.
I believe that's a worthy goal for the United States.
So watch for that speech about Wednesday or so.
From the high desert, there's our one coming up.
Richard Boylan will talk about star children and more.
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You take yourself, you take myself on the road.
Another night, another day goes by.
I never stop myself to wonder why.
I have to forget to play my role.
You take her, you take myself, and go I, I live among the creatures of the night
I haven't got the will to try and fight Against the will to marvel for I guess
Tomorrow never comes.
I said tonight, I'm living in the forest of a dream.
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It's hard enough for me to believe in the concept of star children.
Whether they be completely alien or half alien, half human, whatever they might be, it's a difficult concept for me to
grasp.
But here to help us is Dr. Richard J. Boylan.
And folks, he's a PhD, a behavioral scientist, anthropologist, university associate professor emeritus, certified clinical hypnotherapist, consultant, and researcher.
Dr. Boylan is a consultant to Star Kids, And star seeds seeking to understand their origin, identity, and mission so as to attain optimal awareness and clarity of identity, inner growth, spiritual development, and future path.
His career has spanned four decades of service as a psychologist, social worker, hypnotherapist, clergyman, retired educator, space anthropologist.
Wow!
Dr. Boylan has served as a lecturer at California State University, Sacramento University of California Davis, and several other universities.
Since 1989, Dr. Boylan has conducted research into human encounters with the Star Visitors.
This has led to his current focus, creation of the Star Kids Project Limit, and working with these hybrid children, there's your answer, With advanced abilities and their families, he has presented papers on his research at, among other conferences, the 1992 MIT Abduction Study Conference, the 95 Cosmic Cultures International Conference at Washington, D.C., is author of three books, Close Extraterrestrial Encounters, Labor Journey to the Stars, and Project Epiphany.
Dr. Boylan, ...is president of the Star Kids Project Limited, a non-profit educational and training program for young and mature star seeds.
He is also president of the Academy of Clinical Close Encounter Therapists, Inc., a non-profit educational and research organization, has conducted numerous workshops for mental health professionals on specialized counseling for experiencers of star visitor contact.
Those are serious, serious credentials about something that a lot of people have trouble taking seriously.
The whole concept of Star Children.
Among Us.
Now!
That's a big resume.
No question about it.
Here is Dr. Boylan.
Doctor, welcome.
Art, how are you doing?
I'm just great, thank you.
And yourself?
I'm doing well.
Good.
It's really a pleasure to have you back on the air.
I consider you the foremost person in alternative broadcasting.
Oh, thank you.
Alright, well, you know, Doctor, for most people, The concept of visitation of any form is rough.
The concept of interaction between humans and aliens is very difficult for them to believe.
And then the idea of hybrids, I mean, of mixing and matching, and then having these mixes and matches walking among us, that's really a rough one.
And I'd like to know how you came to the conclusion Firmly in your mind, and you must have a deductive scientific mind, that it is so!
Well, I didn't get there quickly or easily.
I started the research into people who've had encounters with the Star Visitors back in 89, and that was as a result of certain people that year starting to come to me with their There's a lot of separating of the wheat and the chaff there though, isn't there?
I knew these were sound people, upstanding citizens of the community and not lunatics.
I got involved.
It drew me in, the curiosity about this phenomenon and learning more about it.
There's a lot of separating of the wheat and the chaff there, though, isn't there?
There are, frankly, people who either want to believe or are delusional or whatever.
There's got to be that category.
Oh yeah I would say and I've worked with over 400 experiences of such contacts now and I would say about five percent are the people who step forward and say they have these contacts are seriously mentally ill.
That's very low.
Yeah and there's an additional percentage which I would find It's hard at the moment to quantify of people who are sort of wannabes or take unusual circumstances and run too far with them and decide they've had alien encounters, they might say it.
Once you move those folks aside, there's still probably a solid 80% of the folks I've dealt with whose accounts stand up.
In rigorous kinds of tests of whether they're telling the truth.
Alright, what is that process?
I mean, I guess you can't give it all away, but generally, what is the process?
How do you validate?
Well, first I check for their mental soundness.
You know, as a psychologist, by education and training and many decades of experience, I know the signs to look for in that department.
Then I look for the details of their account of what happened.
By now I have accumulated enough experience working with accounts that I know the various races involved, their behavioral patterns, the kinds of messages they give, the kind of craft they come in.
Typical durations of encounters and a lot of details right down to some of the insignia and uniforms and so forth.
And when somebody gets too far out away from this and makes up stuff that neither I nor Dr. John Mack nor Dr. Leo Frenkel or any of the other, shall we say, heavyweight people have lots and hundreds of cases under their belt.
And you know, good scientific advanced training.
When they get outside of probably between the three of us, we probably have anywhere between 1,500 and 3,000 case database.
Now you figure that's a pretty good sample of everything that's going on.
And when you get outside of that with a story that's way out left field from that, then I begin to think that this person may be making it up.
All right.
What about this?
If there were really hybrids here, then I would guess that there would be a genetic giveaway.
I mean, we've unraveled the human genome for the most part, and I know that, you know, we can look at it.
The police have labs and they can make all kinds of determinations about your genetic makeup.
So if we actually had hybrids here, shouldn't they be genetically detectable as such?
Well, yes and no.
Let me tell you the yes and the no of that.
We're still working on human genome analysis.
It turns out there are some variations just because people from different parts of the planet have some variations that some people like to call race, but it's really more layered than that.
Okay.
So the human genome is not nailed down absolutely 100% yet.
Granted that it's fairly well nailed down, the challenge in detecting non-human genes, I would estimate in these star kids and adult starseeds for that matter, the extraterrestrial component, the extraterrestrial genes in their overall makeup, you know, chromosomal package, Perhaps it's something on the order of 15 to 30 percent.
It's not like a 50-50.
Okay.
But even so, that's a lot.
The problem with that is we, the lab scientists doing a genome analysis, have to know what extraterrestrial genes look like, the genome, to kind of do a side-by-side with the standard human genome and see where these hybrids deviate.
But the trouble is that the The genome of certain extraterrestrial races has been worked, but all of that is extremely classified and denied in government labs.
Dr. Michael Wolff, that I've associated with before his death, indeed worked on just such work and indicated the government had been at it for decades before.
I'm sorry, who was that?
Dr. Michael Wolff with the National Security Council Special Studies Group, what some people used to call MJ-12.
And so you're telling me the alien genetic makeup, in other words, they've unraveled some of its mysteries.
Yes, you know, they've gotten samples from cadavers of star visitors in crashed craft that have been retrieved, plus some tissue samples, you know, all it takes is a swab of the inside of your mouth from living Our visitors, typically a volunteer scientist consultant working side-by-side with human scientists in these classified labs, trying to pass on some high technology.
So they've analyzed several, but the trouble is, you know, if you're inside such a classified facility and have the extraterrestrial genome side-by-side with the human to see where the deviations are, Then you can do that.
What you say is perfectly correct.
Theoretically, it should be possible to just see how much in a hybrid kid, for example, is human and how much is extraterrestrial genes.
Yeah, I'm not a geneticist, but I mean, would a geneticist, in your view, be able to look at a hybrid's genetic makeup and say, aha!
Would it stand out like that?
You're saying no, that it's more layered.
I'm not a geneticist either, but my inference from talking to Dr. Wolf, who's done these kinds of side-by-side studies, is that there's only a few places on a few genes where the deviations occur, and we know now that it doesn't take but a few changes or differences in certain parts of genes to make some profound differences in the way a person looks and operates.
I'm told we're just that close to, what, gorillas, I guess?
Well, chimps were about, I think, 98%.
98%!
And dolphins to a very high level, too, which is another story we'll get into maybe during our time.
But without that classified extraterrestrial genome information, the civilian labs out in the open can't make those side-by-side analyses.
Okay.
Do you have any indication, any idea of... I mean, we talk about indigo children, star children, and that's been going on.
That talk has been going on for years.
Presumably, the process has been going on for years, so we might have some star adults by now, or even more.
Do you know where we are with that?
Well, yeah.
I use the label star seeds for the adults and star kids for the juveniles.
Star seed adults are basically either star kids who've grown up or in some cases an adult has an encounter with the visitors and they do a little tweaking of the person's physiology and genetics maybe.
They're transformed by that way.
Now, how many of the population are that?
I couldn't say definitively in my estimate, looking at the numbers of people I've dealt with, the number of people who've had encounter experiences and have been physically changed by those.
And we can talk in a minute about some of those physical changes.
Well, you know the Roper poll estimated one or two percent of the population.
Let's be very conservative and say one quarter of one percent of the population have had an encounter with a star visitor or more during their lifetime.
Yes.
That would still be in the U.S.
several millions of people.
Yes.
And as I get You know, this whole Star Kids, Star Seeds stuff is real cutting edge.
That's why even people who are kind of in the mainstream of ufology scratch their heads at this and say, I've not heard about this.
But the impression I get from the many cases I've talked to is that a fair number of these people who've had encounters have been transformed.
And what I've noticed even more is that the kids they have are Transformed are many of their kids are star kids in the sense that they have this profile of a large number of quite advanced characteristics that make them stand out from the average human.
Well, I certainly will say this, and I know you're well aware, a very large percentage of doctors, very large, has had some sort of, when you really dig, has had some kind of sexual story to relate with regard to their abduction. I mean it's been
very, very, very reproductively oriented. The whole abduction phenomena has
been reproductively oriented. No question about it.
I personally, in my research, find that to be a bit overblown in terms of some of the
more physical processes, but certainly a number of
people have had, well, it's a kind of typical case.
You know, a thin pipette may be either inserted in their body or run through their abdominal cavity down in.
Yes.
Some reproductive material is borrowed.
And what it looks like to me from the after effects is that that reproductive material is taken somewhere, a little gene splicing done to splice in some extraterrestrial advanced characteristics and put Then the reproductive material is put back in the person and they go on to have kids that look very normal except they have these cluster of advanced abilities and I draw the conclusion that there's been some genetic engineering going on and that these kids are hybrid because not only are these characteristics enduring but it appears that the characteristics get handed down from one generation to another
So, it looks like it's kind of permanently enshrined in the genome.
Well, you know, Doctor, if all you say is so, then this is an invasion.
Well, that's a term.
It's a word.
What I see going on is a transformation.
That's another word.
Well, I guess if you believe it to be benign, you'd be more likely to use that word.
Well, not only benign, but I would say necessary.
The way the human race has been going in its track record has made many thoughtful people get appalled.
We're on a track, speaking globally, where the human race may either blow itself up or poison itself either by Weapons of mass destruction are by destruction of the environment.
Oh, I quite agree.
You know, and this track cannot go forward.
I would say, if we may borrow a phrase from the United Negro College Fund, the Star Visitors take the point of view that a planet is a terrible thing to waste, and they hate to see the human race go down that path.
And they're here as a kind of mass Peace Corps.
I don't think you would say a team of Peace Corps going into countries in invasion.
No, like a Galactic Peace Corps.
We're at the bottom of the hour, Doctor.
Hold on.
You know, if it's really going on, then I certainly hope that's true.
but you know i read david jacobs and i talked to people like david
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this song really fits very carefully to the world
and And we still have time, but let's still get by
Every time I think about it, I wanna cry.
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With me this evening, Dr. Richard Borland.
And we're talking about star children.
And we're talking about why they're here.
We're gonna talk about what the motive is of those who are putting them here might be.
and that motive, as the doctor suggested, might be right in front of our eyes.
If you objectively look around you, and you look at the North Pole and the South Pole
melting, the North Pole is virtually two-thirds melted, the South Pole is calving
I mean, it's just incredible what's going on.
It's actually frightening.
And then you get things like this from the journal Nature, the story that just broke over the weekend about climate change extinction, talking about within 50 years, 25% of all animals and plants being gone from the planet, then yes, We're not, objectively, we're not in good shape right now, Doctor.
That's true.
And you think that their intention is a benign one?
That they're trying to help us with this?
Yeah.
As long as we're blowing people's minds, let's finish the job here.
I want to put this in a little historical perspective because the typical take on the Star Visitor phenomenon is that, you know, one of their ships wandered around, crashed in 1947, and they've been coming back ever since.
This is a very telescope kind of vision of what contact between the nations out there and Earth has been like over time.
The indigenous peoples all over the Earth Old, in their oral traditions, origin from the stars and the star people.
And the star people say that same thing to people that they meet with currently in the last 50 years.
The indications are also from anthropology that there is discontinuity in the evolution picture.
of primates to man, the missing link problem, if you will.
Sure.
Based on all this information, the picture that emerges is that the, and from things like the Sumerian tablets that Zechariah Sitchin has translated, that the visitors came here millennia ago and Far from the Starkids being their first bit of genetic engineering, the entire human race is their first bit of genetic engineering on Earth.
You believe that to be so?
Yes.
Approximately 275,000 years ago, the mitochondrial research done by genetics is tracing back
all humans alive today to a common maternal ancestor.
They did about 275,000 years ago to a common woman in that mother, if you will, in Africa from which we're all descended.
There is no clear predecessor for Homo sapiens.
Neanderthal is not our predecessor, even though there were some Neanderthals hulking around in those days.
And certainly Lucy and some of the other more primitive primates do not look anything like Homo sapiens.
We essentially emerged without a immediate predecessor species about that time.
And then the anthropologists, archaeologists, tell us that there was another kind of sudden uptick in human development about 130,000 years ago when Homo sapiens became Homo sapiens sapiens, much less of a primitive kind of forehead, a larger brain case, and looking very much like we look today.
And I would argue that that represented a second phase of bioengineering, genetic engineering, gene splicing by the visitors at that point when they saw that the earlier model was still pretty primitive.
What is going on now to jump forward from 130,000 years ago to the present time is that Homo sapiens sapiens was a pretty good model.
We've come up from the Stone Age.
We've done art, technology, language, culture, music, etc.
There's much good to be said about the human achievement to this point, but there are also some distressing features, such as you alluded to, and I have.
There's still too much territoriality, warlike tendencies.
The old days we settled arguments by putting a stone axe in the forehead of the other guy.
Now we do it with weapons of mass destruction.
I'm not sure that's a huge improvement in human functioning.
And it is pretty evident from what Star Visitors told people and from looking at the pattern of things that they decided we need yet another upgrade.
From AOL 1 to AOL 9.0, if you will.
And so we've over first, you know, several decades back, some new model came in.
But in my research into the phenomenon, around the end of the 80s, they started pouring in and now there's an avalanche of these Do you, Doctor, never have moments where you get concerned about people like David Jacobs and the things they say?
In other words, you've bought into this, but you could possibly be wrong regarding the ultimate motivation No.
David Jacobs is an historian.
He doesn't have any behavioral science background.
He's not a psychologist.
He's a psychiatrist.
I would argue that the only evidence we have of star visitor contact is what people who they've contacted say, and the proper Experts to be dealing with people who've been contacted are the behavioral science professionals.
Yes.
Psychologists that work with people can tell truth from falsehood, mental illness and emotional disturbance from reality, and are professionally trained enough not to be amateurs in hypnosis, not to... However, even occasionally the experts are fooled.
That's much less likely than people that have no training at all.
And within all the behavioral science community, and by that I include the many hundreds of people in the Academy of Clinical Close Encounter Therapists and John Mack's Program for Extraordinary Experience Research.
These aren't just a handful of therapists and psychologists.
Psychotherapists and so forth.
But these are hundreds of folks in a number of places in the world who have a consensus on what this is about.
So this is not just my prejudice or Leo Sprinkles or John Max.
This is hundreds of people who have got a consensus about what this is about.
Yes.
That's very true.
But again, you know, we only know so much about this.
It may well be that somebody who is our manipulator or a group that would be our manipulators could have motives that we don't yet fully understand.
That has to be allowed for us at least a possibility.
For example, We do seem to be a really neat planet.
When you look back on planet Earth, it does seem, unlike so many others, really green.
Lots of good oxygen, still, no matter what we've done.
Lots of nice water and minerals, and it's a pretty decent place compared to most of what you see out there, and maybe it's prized real estate.
Well, I think that's, with all due respect, a kind of an Earth-centered viewpoint.
True.
There are billions and billions of stars out there with planets revolving around them.
And the idea that Earth is that rare, unique is something not held any longer by the astronomical community.
Furthermore, the star visitors have the kind of technology to conform planets to livable conditions, even when they're not currently found that way, as is currently going on with Mars.
Even in the last several decades, Mars is starting to develop atmosphere and thicken up and other changes, developing life patterns seasonally that in earlier decades astronomers did not see happening on there.
The fading and coming of green with the seasons Since you mentioned Mars, you know, it's quite something right now with the lander there and everything.
Do you think there once was some sort of civilization on Mars in a day when it had a thick atmosphere and lots of water flowing on the surface and all the rest of it?
Would that be your impression?
Well, Dr. Wolf says that that is the case and it certainly looks like, you know what Richard Hoagland has said, the Cydonia complex is clearly not natural land features.
It's artificial.
Indeed.
But the presence of life on there is contemporaneous.
It's not dusty and eons ago.
They're actively at work up there, changing Mars to make it more inhabitable, thickening up atmosphere and so forth.
And you've got to marvel at the kind of people who have the technology to take on a whole planet and change its ecosystems to greater livability.
And the point I was leading to in all of that is the kind of paranoid, if you'll pardon my expression, scenario that sees them as evil, mean invaders is ridiculous on two counts.
Number one, they were here before we were and they bioengineered us.
It doesn't make any sense to think of them as invaders.
I suppose not.
And then number two, they Not only do they have access to the millions of habitable planets out there, but they have the technology to take a marginal planet and tighten up the atmosphere to where it's breathable and has enough pressure to hold down liquid water on the surface.
In other words, create conditions for life.
So it's not like they're you know medic can with a bunch of pencils in their hand
coming here saying pretty please can we have some of your real estate uh...
that's just to earthbound in their own view of what's going on out there
well right if they were uh...
our fathers if they bioengineered us in the first place and have been
guiding us since
uh... with changes what about
i mean we are imagining them to be so far ahead of us that they are our
creators That's a long way ahead of us.
Well, let's say they're the handmaidens of creation.
The handmaidens of creation.
Well, okay.
That may be safer.
Anyway, why haven't they done a better job?
I mean, we do seem to be going down a track right now that's just way out of control.
So...
Their control has been pretty loose at best.
Yes, well again, the Jacobs idea that they're coming here in jackboots to a prison camp is not the evidence at all.
They come with a sense of collegiality and respect of one intelligent, conscious, spiritual life form for another.
Even though they may be ahead of us technologically, they don't culturally take the point of view that therefore that entails them to.
Take over and declare martial law and kick us in the butt and run the place.
They clearly could do that, but they choose not to because they respect the fact that the indigenous life form, namely humans on this planet, need to find our way and only when things get drastic as they are getting now where we're sitting on the, you know, with nukes on the end of intercontinental rockets aimed at each other.
The very edge of abyss, yes.
And, as you know, the cascade of environmental degradation on Earth is such that the Rio de Janeiro Conference, the scientists said, keep up the way you're going and by 2025 the cascade will be unstoppable.
Yes.
So, those are emergency conditions and so They're stepping in and showing up in people's bedrooms at night and saying, we need to have a word here.
And they're also trying to upgrade the genetics to make us a more peaceable, metaphysically aware, sensitive people that are not going to kill each other, kill off the earth.
But it's not going so well right now.
In other words, the Starch Kids and the Starch Seeds are not the majority of the population at this point.
But having worked with them, I would tell you, if those folks were the majority population, we would not have wars, we would not have environmental degradation.
I've seen these kids wince at the thought of pollution going on.
Some of them, you know, practically have connections if their parents don't recycle cans and glass.
They are very attuned to the environment.
And, you know, fights in the schoolyard, not only are they not part of them, they're appalled by the whole idea that people would deal with differences by physical force.
Well, the way the world and our country is structured, for example, right now, until they get to be representatives, senators, even into the White House, until they get into power, the way things go around here, there's not going to be a change.
A lot of wincing, maybe, but no change.
Well, yes.
The starved-seeds adults are going to have to become numerous enough and move into positions of power to make a difference.
I would argue that some of them are already in sort of position, but not out of the closet yet.
Oh, so you see that going on now then?
Yeah, there are quietly some starseed adults in certain positions of influence in the culture.
Some of the experiences we've had, encounters, are talking up about their encounters, including some celebrities.
We've had Shirley MacLaine talk about her encounters, for example, and try to normalize it, and Roxanne Barr.
I was on her program when she came out of the closet about her own experience when she was doing a program on that for those in the audience who've had experiences.
There have been others.
Many, many stars are willing to say they've seen a UFO and they think this thing is real.
But in terms of people changing fundamentally the value system by which nations and the global society operate, I would agree with you.
We're not there yet, but I think there are many people in the wings who are ready to step forward at the right moment.
Well, when you look at the timeline, that moment is going to be real quick.
Doctor, we're at the top of the hour, so take a break, and we'll pick it up right there.
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You know, I can get computer messages, as you well know, while we go along in the night, and Bob in Hadlock, North Carolina, Hey, Bob, he says, all communism, all the time.
You environmental freakoids make me sick.
And that's probably not the fast blast of the Starchild, I would guess.
You know, I don't know, Bob, you really ought to think about it a little bit.
Communism, just to notice what's going on around you, to notice that 25% of all the plants and animals and people Or at least animals and plants could be gone in your lifetime, Bob.
That's worth noticing.
To notice that the North Pole is melting?
Well, you know, that's worth noticing.
These things, Bob, like our rapid climate change, they're all worth noticing, Bob.
I don't know that it's communism to notice them.
I suppose to you it is.
is Bob, definitely not a star child.
Once again, Dr. Boylan, doctor, there's a lot of Bobs out there.
And you know, when we look at what's going on objectively in the world right now,
and we look at the timeline and the timeline of the apparent star children,
the star seed situation, it doesn't look like the timeline is fitting.
It doesn't look like there's going to be movement fast enough to prevent our own extinction.
It really doesn't look that way now.
Yeah.
They're going to have to speed it up.
Well, right.
You've got some background in the speeding up dynamics in your book, which I found most interesting.
Personally, and my Native American shaman friends, I concur that 2012 is not only an interesting date on the Mayan calendar, but pretty much the window by which we need to make changes.
That's only nine years out.
Looking at it just from the perspective of the way we normally time we take to make changes in our society across the board, it doesn't look like even with the avalanche of star Kids coming in now that things are going to change fast enough.
But the wild card in the deck that is rising to the top rapidly is made up of two things.
The Earth Changes and the Star Visitors presence coming out in the open.
Now by Earth Changes, I'm sure you're Listeners are all well aware what that means, but if there's some new people tuning in, let me just summarize it by saying this is sort of shorthand for a series of very major global tumult that will shake up society as we know it.
Already starting to happen, but will get more intense apparently over the next three years is the timeline I've been told.
We're talking about everything from major earthquakes to Tidal waves to volcanoes going off, illnesses getting out there, but also social and political upheavals, wars, famines, pestilence.
You and your associate writer did a book on the Superstorm.
Yes, sir.
He's about to be in a movie, by the way, called The Day After Tomorrow.
Yeah, I saw the trailers for that.
That's quite outstanding.
It's going to come out next May.
And that, I think, is based on some NASA or National Oceanic Atmospheric Scientist data models using chaos theory and high-grade computer analysis.
The effects in the Earth are such now that Would take a relatively modest amount of destabilization to cascade some events.
Well, it's your book.
You can tell it better than I can.
But why don't you quickly summarize that just as one example of how things might dramatically change almost overnight?
Oh, there are any number of ways that that can occur.
I mean, the Atlantic Current has been destabilizing and, of course, there could be a sudden change in its temperature with it resulting Freezing for example of Europe and perhaps even a global superstorm.
I mean our weather is obviously undergoing a radical rapid climate change period and Yeah, there's a lot and socially I could jump into every one of those fields and did in the quickening and Point toward the global superstorm.
I mean it was a logical jump to write about and it certainly does Both of those books are absolutely representative of where I feel we're going right now.
And so that really was my question.
It was about the timeline.
I just don't see anything challenging this direction for the world right now sufficiently to change its direction at all.
And there's a lot of Bobs out there.
Yeah.
Well, let me say a word about where I think the star seed, star kid thing fits in with the Earth changes and the timeline.
Okay.
If we were just going linear, meaning using the past to predict the future, I would commit a formal act of despair, as I'm sure you would, and say, we ain't going to get there in time.
But, as I say, the wild cards are all of these changes, both in the physical environment and in the social and political environment.
that are going to destabilize the Earth, both physically and people-wise, in ways that are going to break down institutions.
People aren't going to, in some cases, be able to get information the way they used to.
Satellites aren't going to work.
Power lines are going to be down.
Some government power centers are not going to be operational, and people are going to be more on their own.
In such an environment, everything is up for change and having to be jury-rigged.
And what I know, we were taught in grad school about crisis, is that it's a wonderful opportunity for change.
Since people have to make the changes anyway, they're ready to look at fresh new ideas.
And that is where I think the star kids and star seeds, especially the adults, We're going to step into the breach and have some powerful new ways of dealing with the situation that people are going to be ready to listen to.
The other wild card is the Star Visitor presence coming out in the open.
We've had a kind of cascade of UFO visibility over the last few years.
I can remember back 20 years ago when nobody could get a picture of a UFO.
Their camera would freeze up or their video camera wouldn't work.
Then after the UFO left, it will work just fine.
But now people are getting miles of videotaped footage of craft all over the world.
Certainly the experiences are so numerous now.
They have to be in the tens of millions globally.
A number of them are bold enough to come forward and tell their experiences in public settings.
Doctor, by percentage, how many star children or seeds know fully who they are?
Well, in my research experience, I would say that most of them know they're not standard human issue.
They are different.
They're not general issue.
Some of them have not yet woken up to why they're different and that's why we have these star kid and star seed adult workshops for these folks to help them understand why they're different, their abilities, what they're here for.
But most of them have a sense that they're not like the rest of humans and many of them are aware of contacts from the visitors and deduce that there's some thing about that that is shaping them to be different.
Some of them, of course, are quite crystal clear about who they are, where they came from, and why they're here, what their mission is.
And most are kind of in the middle.
They have some inklings, but they're still kind of fuzzy about it.
Earlier, you mentioned Dr. Sitchin, Zachary Sitchin, rather, and his work.
Do you, for the most part, buy into it?
Well, the overarching theme that the Sumerians have a historical record of contact from the stars, that they learned from star visitors, that they were bioengineered, using contemporary terms, fashioned, if you will, and that they got their culture from them.
What about the aspect that we were designed specifically to be virtual slaves, to mine gold?
Well, the problem with Sumerian literature and ancient Middle East literature in general, and I took some courses in that when I was in seminary, is that those cultures, when they talked about Old Times took a lot of literary license and took a few basic facts and built interesting and colorful stories that would stick in the mind so that they could be passed down mouth-to-mouth over thousands of years and not be forgotten.
You cannot read the Sumerian chronicles of their origin like it's the New York Times newspaper.
It is much more colorful, flavored up, changed around for dramatics, and fitting
within the cultural lens of the people of those times.
So then are you suggesting, Doctor, that it's literary license?
You know, the old part?
Well, I'm saying it's not at all clear to what degree some of the aspects of the details
of that chronicle of the interaction between the visitors and the proto-humans was, as
Sitchin is laying out the literal translation of it, but I'm saying that that is not the
same as a history book.
It is a literary, colorful storytelling.
It may be, for example, that the Star Visitor group that was involved with the Sumerians, did that first iteration of Homo Sapiens, still pretty primitive, and about all they were good for was heavy lifting.
They weren't very bright, and this is about 275,000 years ago, and so if they helped out in hauling stuff out of the mines, whatever, then after Allowing evolution to go on for a while, being clear that they needed an upgrading.
About 130,000 years ago, they did a genetic improvement to Homo sapiens sapiens, modern humans.
And at that point, the intelligence level was such that it would not be appropriate
to see them as a beast of burden type animal.
Well, you understand why I asked you that question because we're constantly looking
to their, if they are our designers, their motivation.
And if it is benign, it's benign.
But if it's, you know, if we were slaves, then it perhaps was not at that time as benign as we would have liked it to have been.
Or maybe, as you're suggesting, that's literary license in the way the story came forward.
Well, I think there's certainly a lot of literary coloration in the story, and knowing the The way literature in that time is written and the cultural lens it's written from, I think we have to approach the high details with caution.
That was a very vertical society.
The king strongman ruled.
Everybody else was essentially higher or lesser grades of serfs or slaves.
That's how they saw society and any story of interaction in their history is going to be told with that kind of perspective.
In anthropology, we call that culture-bound thinking.
It's hard to see reality outside of your own culture you're inside of.
So I think the caution signals are up about taking every last detail as literal fact.
I think the primitiveness of Homo sapiens versus the higher intelligence and sophistication of Homo sapiens sapiens, modern man, suggests that The earlier version was less capable and may have needed more direction to find its place.
In your research, at some point you got diverted enough to go out, actually yourself, to Area 51?
Is that correct?
Yes, I've been out there a number of times.
Not far from my house, as you know.
Yes, good old Peron.
So, what did you see there?
Well, the first time I went by there, I really feel it was guided by timing.
I happened upon some test flights of anti-gravity craft.
This was April 1992.
I approached there in the afternoon and the good old Wackenhut guards were not pleased by my approach.
My right, excuse me, my rear left tire got shot out.
So I had to limp back into the highway and do a tire change.
They shot your tire out?
Well, there were two of them and when I drove by my tire rapidly, explosively decompressed and it was not a This is a flat desert and this is not something I ran over.
This is a sidewall rupture with violent decompression.
I draw the inference that's what they did.
The tumbleweed didn't do it.
But you saw gravity, anti-gravity crafters.
That night I came back with lights out and pulled back there and used binoculars and I saw one at a time five different Ships rise vertically out of Area 51 above the ridgeline of the Groom Mountain Range.
Yes.
These were discoid shaped craft with a glowing orangish, reddish, goldish kind of ionization field all the way around them.
They're very intense glow.
Sit there hovering and then after a bit slowly start Tracking downrange at a constant altitude, maybe 30 miles an hour, which, as you know, is not a Piper Cubs stall speed.
Doctor, I've seen them myself.
Yes, you know how it goes.
I do, and they're real.
Do you believe them?
These are U.S., by the way, and not extraterrestrial craft.
You believe they're U.S.
craft?
Using our technology, Dr. Ours?
Made by Northrop Air Aerospace.
With our technology only?
No, copycatted from extraterrestrial technology.
Back-engineered?
Yes, yes.
And the reason I say that is because after I finished going there and did a loop around the southwest, I came back to Northwest of Lancaster, California up against the Tehachapi Mountain Range where I have been told Northrop has a secret plant in the side of the mountain and staked out and saw the self same craft rise above a pad there at 3 in the morning above the Northrop plant and go on a test
Quite of a very similar character.
I, too, have seen it.
All right, Doctor.
Hold tight.
We'll be right back.
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It is in a very deeply credentialed Dr. Richard Boylan.
He'll be back in a moment, he believes.
We have star children basically here to pull it out just in time.
Right around the end of the Mayan calendar would be good, I guess.
Anyways, stay right where you are, we've got a lot more territory to cover.
The phone lines here are ringing with an obvious urgency, so I know there are a lot of people
who want to speak to Dr. Boylan, and surely we will get to that, but boy, we've got a
We really do, to cover Dr. Boylan.
An eyewitness at Area 51.
Doctor, I've interviewed Dr. Greer many times, and it's his feeling that we've actually shot, that our military has shot at UFOs.
And I know you've written that the government is violating the Treaty Against Weapons in Space.
What are we doing?
Well, yes.
I think it's STS-48, that famous videotape that The astronaut shot from space of a bogey, an unidentified flying object, out at the edge of Earth's atmosphere.
I believe you're referring to that item NASA calls a hunk of ice.
Yeah.
Well, an interesting piece of ice that suddenly does a 90 degree turn and accelerates.
It is, indeed.
And what comes up from Earth towards it is a neutral particle beam Star Wars weapon blast.
It sure looks like it.
And you know that those neutral particle beams accelerate at roughly the speed of light, just slightly below with a little bit of Earth's atmosphere flowing, but pretty darn fast.
In other words, folks, we're talking as fast as radio waves come at you from Art Bell Station.
And this UFO dodges and misses the bullet coming at the speed of light towards it.
You've got to figure the technology of these folks that they can detect incoming far enough ahead at the speed of light to make a evasive maneuver and get out of the line of fire.
This is not a piece of frozen urine from one of the astronauts, I want to assure you.
You know, you wouldn't think they'd regard that as a warm welcome or a thank you or anything?
No.
There are, and I have multiple sources including Command Sergeant Major Bob Dean and another gentleman who used to work for the Army General who first headed up the Army Space Command, that we have in orbit right now particle beam weapons, killer lasers, and electromagnetic pulse weapons.
Weapons who can emit a swamping, overwhelming force field that will fry any electronics.
I believe that, and that clearly violates the treaty.
Yes, we are signatories.
The U.S.
is a signatory along with most civilized nations to a treaty saying we will not place weapons in space.
Well, we signed that treaty, but Behind people's backs, we've ignored it, and our military has gone up there and placed orbiting weapon systems in space, and they are directed not only to interdict intercontinental ballistic missiles, but also occasionally target incoming Star Visitor vessels.
And some have been shot down.
Leah Haley, who I believe you certainly know and may have had on your program earlier, is an eyewitness to a shoot down because she was on board an extraterrestrial craft when it was shot down near Gulf Breeze, Florida, at Panhandle.
And to refresh our Listener's memory.
She was on board with some other humans who were having an encounter with the visitors when a portable electromagnetic head was placed near the beach and the military knew ahead of time they'd been reconnaissancing, I guess, these experiencers who had repeated visits and they knew when the visitors were coming for them.
And had a cannon along the line of path of the craft and shot it down.
It landed hard on the sand.
Some of the people inside were injured and some were still okay.
Leo is one of those okay.
A offshore Navy vessel pulled up.
I forget if it was Navy Seals or Delta Force came out.
Came up, surrounded the craft, pulled Leah and some other humans and the star visitors out of there, put them aboard a craft ship, took them out to the main vessel out there on the sea, and away they went.
When that happens to the United States, Doctor, we call it an act of war.
Right.
And part of the reason I think Jacobs and the crowd that look paranoically at the visitors as an invasion force They've had ever so many of these provocations that if it were another Earth nation would say, well you can't do that to us, that's an act of war.
But these people turn the other cheek repeatedly because, like I say, they're here as a Peace Corps to try and get us to straighten up and fly right, and they're hardly wanting to add to the violence and aggression going on.
They see plenty enough of that going on on Earth without any outside help.
And so we do have this stuff both on Earth, stationed on Earth, pointing upward and in space pointing down and out.
And you believe their attitude to be one of turn the other cheek?
Yes, they've been fired on so many times and they use their technology to evade.
The one recorded incident, I think, of a military jet Going down was decades earlier.
I think it was an Iranian Air Force plane engaged a UFO.
That's right.
It locked on with radar lock on and rockets ready to go.
And the visitors on board that craft decided to deal with the F-16 not by shooting it down, but by I guess they swamped its electronics so everything died.
On the plane.
Of course, modern jets, once the electronics don't work, they're hardly airworthy.
They just drop pretty fast.
So that one went down.
I think they've learned since that's not a good non-violent way to deal with a firing situation.
Usually they just do a do-si-do and dodge real fast.
but that's about the only incident I can think of of a not even a shoot down, it's just a
non-violent dealing with a military jet that caused a crash and this is over
thousands of engagements of military fighters with UFOs in which they've just
gone away or gotten invisible or dozy-doed and got out of the line of fire so we're clearly
not dealing with a warlike people that are looking for an excuse to blow us out of the
water because they've had plenty of opportunities and have not done so.
Alright, in the past you and I have spent a lot of time, and it's an obvious path to take when you talk about there being our creators, to talk of the church and talk of God And talk of the Bible, but instead of going down that road tonight, since we've been down it, there have been statements made by Monsignor Balducci, and I understand you may have more on that.
He kind of rocked the Vatican world, didn't he?
That would be a mild statement, yes.
And furthermore, he's kind of hanging out there, and may I say the Pope is letting him hang out there kind of by himself.
There's not a whole lot of other clergy over in Rome that are Going out public with this, but he has.
I had the honor.
You might say he's twisting in the Vatican breeze.
Yes, that would not be an unfair characterization of it all.
I had the pleasure of going over there in December of 2002 and meeting with Monsignor Valducci.
He graciously took us upstairs to his house.
He lives within Very easy eye shot of the Vatican.
And we had a very long evening of discussion.
He was just finishing a paper he was writing on UFOs and the Star Visitors, how this is consistent with church teachings.
It doesn't represent any problem for the church.
It's not forbidden by the Bible or anything else.
It's consistent with what, in fact, he spent a lot of time saying that the early church fathers, teachers and bishops and theologians, said that there is life out there and that that's not a problem, that God made all the people on all the planets.
If I may be colloquial, no big deal.
Take a deep breath and live with it.
This is not the kind of stuff you hear from your Sunday pulpit, but it is what Monsignor is being allowed to say in Italy.
May I say that the big man, Pope John Paul II, even on one occasion squeaked out a comment of his own. He was asked during an
audience by one of the people there, holy father, but what about the extraterrestrials?
And his cryptic answer was, we have to remember they are God's children too. He didn't say what extraterrestrials
or, you know, they are of Satan. He just said we have to remember they're God's
children too.
Can you recall the occasion upon which he said that?
It was during an audience, it was several years ago, maybe five or six now.
I don't have the, uh, the town.
To come back that affirmatively with, uh, with that sort of, wow.
But, well, Valducci says, you know, just for those of our audience who aren't 100% up on Valducci, he says they're not demonic.
People who report them are not crazy.
These encounters deserve to be studied carefully.
Visitors are obviously more advanced than humans.
Actually, he personally kind of puts them halfway between humans and angels, some of them in their spiritual development.
But the Pope, at least, while he doesn't go public and say, Baldici's right, he's my man, he at least, when cornered himself, says, we have to remember they're God's children too, which is a statement of affirmation and not denial.
It certainly is.
It certainly is.
I'm going to turn a question around on you here.
We have these written questions for the show, folks, and sometimes I follow them, more times I don't.
But this one's kind of interesting.
Questions I might ask, you know, of Dr. Boylan.
You're reported to have said that some of the famous UFO investigators out there are not qualified to make statements they make about abductions.
What do you mean by that, and who are some of these investigators you feel are unqualified?
Now, I'm not going to ask that.
Instead, I'm going to ask you, there is, in ufology, and in your field, our field I guess, in general, there is more fighting than that goes on generally on an NFL Sunday football game.
I mean, it just is, it's rough out there.
Ufology is small anyway, and in its ranks, they're ripping each other to shreds!
What's going on?
Well, several things.
And I would speak for the few naive people in the audience, because you know this art.
First of all, it's no accident that there's a lot of turmoil.
Billions of dollars are being spent to make sure that there's plenty of turmoil in this field.
Oh, you think it's orchestrated?
Some of it.
Not only the disinformation boys active, but they... I've had them do it to me, and I've had them do it to other Solid researchers.
They go up to you and say, do you know what that other guy just said about you?
I think you should know this.
And then he goes up to the other person and says, do you know what Boylan said about you?
I think you should know this.
They play the let's you and him fight game.
Yes.
And they do that in print.
I've had them ask me questions on email and then take it out of context.
You've been involved in more than your share of these little brawls.
Yeah.
Also, I mean, there's that stuff going on, and that's your tax dollars at work.
Then, of course, there's human nature.
You remember that, Art.
involved in more than your share of these little brawls yeah
also i mean there's that stuff going on and that's your tax
dollars that work then of course is human nature you remember that art
and uh...
ego uh...
anything else competition tendencies
in the UFO field like they exist in the rest of human society.
Plus, you've got what I think John Mack has described very well, and I certainly agree
with him, with the UFO subject, we have a subject of cosmic importance, and the star
visitor contact with humanity, a subject of transcendent importance.
This stuff is true, it is the biggest story that has ever been told.
Okay, you get Joe Sixpack out there who went to a MUFON meeting and got a card and went
Now he's a UFO expert.
Just using an illustration here.
Comes to a meeting and he has his own personal opinions and somebody else says something different.
He feels this subject is too important to let this other jerk get away with his ignorance, and so he feels the need to get up and verbally beat him up.
This kind of stuff goes on.
So between the orchestrated, deliberate provocation stuff that the Cabal Boys, the UFO cover-up organization operatives are doing, there's plenty enough human nature.
Given the importance of this subject, people tend to get grandiose and assume that It's important.
Therefore, I'm important.
If I talk about it, therefore, nobody else better get in my way.
And you've got the recipe for a Donnybrook.
Yep.
Well, I mean, they go on so frequently that ufology already having a pretty tough time getting taken seriously has even yet more problems.
I mean, how much do you attribute to an orchestration by people with money?
How much of it is that?
And if that were to stop, how much, what percentage of the fighting would stop?
Same question, I guess.
Well, if we took all the disinformation away, and what people like Dr. Michael Wolff and the National Security Council Subcommittee for Management of the UFO Matter, if the level of information they know were out there in public with no lies, deceit, denials, and distortion, just 100% out there is the fact base Society would be pretty much at one because we'd all be starting from the same page.
Then we'd just have some discussion about how that affects you and me and the person down the street.
But we would not have so much differences.
There would still be, given the cosmic importance of this issue, people taking their positions.
But I think a whole lot of the Donnybrook would settle down.
What we need is leadership that is not being sabotaged.
There are, as you know, certain people in this field who stand above others with credibility, dignity, and consistent, clear, non-combative statements of position.
Somebody like Bob Dean comes to mind.
If we didn't have the disinformation, the disruption boys, the actual cream would rise to the top and people Could take their cues from such folks, and it would be, well, not perfect, a better world.
All right.
All right, Doctor.
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According to a very well-credentialed Dr. Richard Boylan, maybe we are on a ride right now.
The ride's well underway.
all you gotta do is look very carefully and it's really all around us
just before we proceed with a little item and then phone lines phone calls
all of you i do want to mention the doctor boylan has a website which
we have a link for of course coast coast am dot com would take you to w w w
dot d are boiling that's the oh why l a m dot com
about the world and i can't be are b l y l a m dot com and he also has three
books uh... close extra terrestrial encounters Labor Journey to the Stars and Project Epiphany.
Now, Doctor, which is your latest?
Project Epiphany?
Well, as a whole book out, Project Epiphany is the latest, but I have updated Labor Journey to the Stars to a 2003 edition, so with the updates, the material in there is a little fresher than Project Epiphany.
Well, if somebody listening for the first time tonight is fascinated, and many are, by what you've been saying, And they want to do more reading.
Where would you suggest they start?
Well, I think Labored Journey to the Stars is the comprehensive briefing book that will get you from zero to 65 miles an hour in the world of UFO reality.
Labored Journey to the Stars.
That would be available on Amazon and... Well, that one is self-published, so I am the principal source for that one.
The other two are commercially published.
On your website, I guess.
Yeah, yeah.
You can go to the website.
It'll say, one of the links there says Dr. Boylan's Books.
Just go there and it'll tell you just how to order.
Do you have any operators standing by at this hour, frothing at the mouth, waiting to take your order?
No.
I think an email would be the best, or a call in the morning would be the best way to get the order going.
Speaking of journeys to the stars, our president coming up.
Probably on Wednesday, is said by the Associated Press and everybody else, to be about to make a proposal.
It sounds like he's going to propose a manned base on the moon.
That's no small undertaking.
And then an eventual trip to Mars and beyond, even to the asteroids, they say, from the moon, where it would be easier.
And that is said to be what the President is going to say.
We don't know that for sure, but it sure looks that way.
What do you make of that?
Well, in my never ending search to push the envelope a little bit, I would say that is a true and be a cover story.
And the reason I say it's a cover story is that I've been informed by Dr. Wolfe and others, Bob Dean's alluded to it too, that we already have a tiny station on the moon.
And a very minuscule forward observation post on Mars.
And people say, what do you mean Apollo 17 was the last thing we sent up to the moon?
No, it is not.
We have not only anti-gravity disks that hover above Area 51 and other places, but we have larger anti-gravity craft in our Secret military fleet that are spacefaring have gone out.
But gee, doctor, that would make the public space program a sham.
It would mean that we've killed astronauts with no cause other than to maintain secrecy.
It's an elaborate cover program too.
Cape Canaveral, Cape Kennedy is a cover program.
Those rockets that blast off with extremely explosive chemicals pushing them is 1945 technology.
You would think it's a bit curious that we haven't moved ahead in the last 55 years from that.
Well, officially at Cape Canaveral, we haven't moved ahead.
Unofficially, behind the scenes at Area 51 and King Mountain, Utah and some other places, we have a fleet of a variety of size anti-gravity craft, some of which have gone out to the moon and Mars and also service an undeclared space station up in space that has nothing to do with the current one being built.
It's been up there for three decades.
There's a whole program of secret military astronauts trained at a facility next to, but not part of, the Air Force Academy at Colorado Springs, and I've detected where that is there, done a little recon, and they staff flights that have gone out of Vandenberg Air Force Base and Beale Air Force Base in Northern California, Now they tend to generate out of the King Mountain facility in Utah and go up into space.
Not all of them go to space.
Some of them do work on Earth out in high-altitude flights, recon, and occasionally military interdiction stuff.
Well, Doctor, there are many who feel... I was a child when man stepped on the moon.
I remember watching it on TV.
As did I. And we haven't gone back.
Man hasn't gone back to the moon or Mars or anywhere else.
We have not gone anywhere since.
And to many, including me, that is really suspicious.
Yes.
You know, all we're allowed to do is go up to the edge of orbit in the atmosphere And float around up there and then come down.
You know, it reminds me of a kid that's been told to stay in his room after he wandered too far down the block.
Exactly.
And you believe that's, in essence, what we have been told?
Yes.
That the Star Visitors are extremely unhappy with the prospect of some of the military wanting to take nukes into space.
And this whole John Wayne gunslinger mentality of space is the next frontier and launch out there with our militarized craft and prepared to fire at anything that gets in our way, that is not the etiquette of space.
And they've made it quite clear that until we Develop our etiquette.
We're not welcome out there.
So then we're being treated by the star visitors much as the Chinese treat stars.
Elaborate that a bit, if you would.
In other words, we're quarantined.
Oh, oh, yes.
Yes, there's a famous astronomer and ufologist to a degree.
His name is starting to slip my mind here.
He's an Oregon Atmospheric Science Professor, James, last name's escaping me at the moment, Dr. James X, let's say, who had a published paper in an astronomical peer-reviewed journal making that very point that it appears from all signs that we are under space quarantine until we clean up our act and fly right.
And I totally agree with that.
Furthermore, a number of the Star Visitors have told humans that they've had encounters with that.
It's not so much the cop stuff.
If you can't get them out there, they're good.
It's more in terms of, gee, we wish you would change your attitudes.
We'd love to have you come out there as a peaceable, open-minded people and engage with us.
But not with this shoot first, ask questions later attitude we seem to see in your military at this point.
Well, you would have to view us currently, I guess objectively, you know if you were standing back, America that is when I say us, as very rather warlike people, actually.
Yes, I think You know, when you get outside the U.S.
press and read some of the world press about what they think of America's behavior, you don't have to go off planet to get that perspective.
No, it's true.
People need to read foreign publications.
It's easier to do with the Internet.
You need to listen to shortwave and shortwave news broadcasts, that kind of thing.
And the picture of America is so different than the one projected internally.
And you really can't say that's Boulder Dash until you've tried it yourself, folks.
So do a little international listening and see what you come up with.
Doctor, we've got to go to the phones.
I've got a lot of people waiting.
Oh, yeah.
So let's see what we get.
First time caller on the line, you're on the air with Dr. Richard Boylan.
Hello.
Is this me?
It is.
Well, only you surely know that, but it sounds like you.
Okay.
My name is Angelique from Utah.
I have a couple comments that I'd like to just spit at you guys and see how you guys feel about it.
Sure.
And then about star babies.
And then, Mr. Bell, if you'd allow me, I have a comment about the moon or a question about the moon.
No, go ahead.
Okay.
First of all, I would like to kind of validate Mr. Bell's feelings that star people, some of them could be ready to harm us.
There could be more than one alien race with different motives, you know, per se, the Pleiadians versus the Syrians.
Also, I know you didn't really want to dip into the whole biblical aspect, but Genesis 2, the sons of God breeding with the daughters of man, does give evidence of hybrids, or possible evidence, with the Nephilim.
Also, this has to do with the secret societies.
Okay, slow up a second.
Dr. Boylan, she's got a good point.
Many ufologists, even some well-credentialed ones, I believe there are many different races, and I've heard many different numbers, as I'm sure you have as well, and that they may not all have the benign intentions that you attribute to them.
Well, there are a number of races in contact with Earth.
My guesstimate would be perhaps a hundred.
That's a lot.
Yeah.
It all has the right agenda.
All with the same agenda, Doctor?
Well, first of all, I'll tell you what the National Security Council's information is, that there are four federations made up of all these different folks who've kind of clustered each into federations, and there's four of those, and they're all working in concert with each other.
To coordinate this contact, some are doing more scientific investigations, some are doing the people work, some are keeping an overview on Our activity at the edge of space and so forth.
But mostly, that's a yes.
You're saying they are... They're peaceable.
And further, they're dedicated to making sure that the occasional rogue operator out there that tries to sneak in and pull their stuff off is stopped and interdicted.
They don't have a 100% success rate, but they have a pretty good success rate.
And furthermore, we're talking individual, occasional individuals, not whole invasion races.
But for the first time I just heard you acknowledge occasional rogue operator.
Yeah, self-serving.
Okay.
All right.
But very few compared to the good guys.
Gotcha.
About the same percentage as my research with 400 experiencers and Listening to you, Dr. Sprinkle and Dr. Mack, I would estimate it's about the same percentage as in the human race, where we have about 1% sociopath population, and I would say maybe 1% rogue operators out there.
Wouldn't you agree, Doctor, that a cosmic psychopath could be potentially harmful to a lot of people on Earth versus A human psychopath.
And I'm not disagreeing with you that there's probably, you know, very good aliens or angels, synonymous, that inhabits humanity in their hearts for us.
But I do believe what Dr. Bell is saying, that, you know, is the possibility of them, of some of them, being harmful or threatening to us, especially not even allowing us to know that we are possibly being engineered with star children.
You know, there's plenty of us, including myself, call me crazy, that would probably be willing to be part of the experiment.
And I know we don't tell dogs we're taking them to the vet, but at the same time, I think that, you know, some of us should be allowed to know.
And I do have a couple more statements, if that's okay.
Well, we're getting close to the end here.
Okay.
Doctor, anything on that?
Well, the rogue operator could obviously be Unhelpful and you know with things like telepathic communication a person might be caught off guard to having somebody jar them when they're not even sure where it's coming from.
You know the trouble, the reason I hate to talk about this is first there's such an infinitesimal tiny sliver or fraction of a percent of the whole phenomenon and the disinformation boys Run with this theme as though that was most of who's in play with her.
And that is a total misrepresentation of what's going on.
Fair enough, and you've represented what I think you believe quite well.
Young lady, anything else?
Yeah, just a few things.
Some of the rumored aspects, I didn't really hear traits of the Starr children, and some of them that You know, that I've been rumored to have heard are that they have extreme difference of body temperature, like holding at 96.5, which is rare, larger eyes like the grave, smaller mouth, advanced motor skills as children, but late talkers, that we've had the highest incidence of diagnosis in history for autism, and then they end up being perfectly normal, possibly hinting to telepathic talk between these children or
that they might assume that we can from birth and then they come into their earthly state
of knowing.
Alright, hold it there for a moment.
Doctor, is that a fair description at all of some of the qualities of the star children?
Some of them, yes.
There are a lot of them.
I've enumerated 54 characteristics and if some of our listeners would like to see all 54 since we're not going to have the time tonight to get to them, they can go to the Star Kid Identification Questionnaire on my website and look at all 54 characteristics.
What I found is, yes indeed, many of the star kids and adult starseeds have body temperature that's a degree or two lower than normal.
The 98.6 on the thermometer.
Well, like I read at 96.8 and others read in the 97 to 96s.
I read even a little lower than you do.
Well, my friend, that tells me something about you.
And by the way, I doused your photo You know, people know about these dousing rods.
Everybody throws a bioelectric field out, and what I found is...
The fields have flavor to them.
In other words, the field of a bad guy is different than the field of a good guy.
And, Art, you come out on the good guy side of the equation.
Do I?
Yes, you do, my friend.
Well, that's kind of neat to know.
You can get that from a photograph, in other words.
I've learned that recently.
You know, I've done it with live people, and I've watched the way the rods behave, and I've learned it works with photographs.
And there's the good guy and the bad guy profile on what the rods do, people live in front of you, and in the photographs as well.
So the implication is then that that energy is able to be captured by the photographic process?
Yes.
You know, the shamans, the so-called primitive peoples, North American Indians, African tribes, so forth, the shamans know that you have to be careful with photographic images because they're so likely That's true.
The way the person looks.
That's true.
People say, well, that's just superstition.
Oh, no American natives!
You put a pin in a photograph, it shouldn't matter at all.
Yeah.
Well, they say, no, there's something of the energy of the person there.
Oh, Native Americans thought that you were stealing their soul.
We've got a break here at the bottom of the hour.
Indeed.
They would go berserk sometimes when you would take their photograph and they would feel that you had actually captured their soul.
So perhaps, perhaps they know something.
That we're just finding out.
What do you think?
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You know, I thought this was appropriate because when you talk to Native Americans, and oh baby I have, I'd have the Hopi elders on the show to the point where we had to have translations as we did the program.
And if you listen carefully to what they say, and you... I should crank that program out sometime, and at least replay part of it.
Because it tracks, right down the line, earth-changing-wise, and, I don't know, with regard to our history, and who's been here before, right down the line with what Dr. Boylan's saying.
And I mean, baby, right We'll get that out, give you a chance to listen to the Hopi Elders one of these days.
is dr richard moyland as my guest and he'll be right back dot one there is a
it was cyclone of talk going on In the paranormal community and some of the scientific community right now about Yellowstone.
It's all over the community.
What do you know, if anything, about Yellowstone and what might be going on?
Well, there is increasing geothermal activity underneath Yellowstone.
Until recently, I didn't appreciate... You can get educated on the internet The Yellowstone, besides being a very pretty national park, is a supervolcano caldera, basically.
The remnants of a volcano that has kind of eroded down so it's not obvious, you don't go in there and see a typical cone-shaped volcanic mound.
It erupted in the past and kind of blew off the top.
The reason there's so many hot springs there is that basically the magma, the hot rock, melted under the earth's crust is very close to the surface as you might expect in a historical volcano.
And when water percolates down through the rock and hits that, up comes these geysers that are all over the place there.
Recent indications are that the magma is on the move back towards the surface When magma hits the surface, we know that as lava and eruptions.
The waters have gotten warmer in some of the bodies of water in the park.
The geysers are getting irregular.
Sometimes the ground itself is hot enough that it's uncomfortable to walk on.
There are a number of indicators that it is getting The magma is getting close to the surface, and this is typically the sign that a breakthrough is in the offing.
It would be catastrophic.
People, I don't think generally, do understand how catastrophic it potentially could be.
Now, have Native American showmen told you that this is foretold?
Well, the scenario of a lot of volcanoes going off is certainly foretold, and my chief contact, Standing Elk, now known as Golden Eagle, the Dakota Sioux Star Altar Keeper, got some information that some volcanic activity would be happening in the very near future, and we have to understand that Yellowstone is not just your garden variety volcano, it's one of these super volcanoes.
In other words, when it corks off, it's going to make Mount St.
Helens look like a hiccup.
It is truly catastrophic in scale when these super volcanoes go off.
They throw so much material into the atmosphere that you get a super cooling effect.
So much sunlight gets blocked out and this stuff carries downwind And to a lesser degree around the globe, it has been estimated that when Yellowstone cooks off, it will change the climate in that part of the United States.
It will make certain areas uninhabitable.
There will be so much ash that farming and other activities won't be able to be done Downwind of there, and we're not talking yards, we're talking apparently several states, and maybe a larger swath than that.
There could be at least temporary climate change.
So you're talking about changes of the magnitude that we were discussing earlier that would begin to bring about this acceleration Well, we would have change on the order that FEMA could not handle it.
And the beginning of breakdown of regular, expectable society in that part of the American West would not happen.
You would have things like economic collapse, farming and ranching in that area not able to go forward any longer, massive loss of Probably some power generating facilities in that area.
The ash could bring down airliners and certainly make it difficult to fly in that general area, etc.
We're talking about major disruption and likely to go on for years, not just weeks.
And they say, soon?
Yeah.
Do they give you any sense of the magnitude?
You said they indicated there would be Volcanic activity there soon.
Was it of the kind of magnitude you just described, or...?
Well, they're talking in general about volcanism in the world, and particularly in North America, which is where these native peoples live, that will be distinctly noticeable.
You know, different tribes get different indications about different Mountain volcanic regions.
Right, but what I'm getting to is not necessarily the big one, but activity.
Yeah, but enough on a scale enough that it will disrupt ordinary life in that region, not just be an inconvenience for a week or some village having to dodge lava.
We're talking about regional level scale disruption and for a long time.
Any idea what it would be like, say, where I'm located?
Well, I don't know the balkanism story around Pahrump.
Well, I wasn't thinking so much of immediate lava, but I mean the fallout, we're not that far.
But you tend to be upwind, I think, of Yellowstone in general.
There you go, that sounds positive.
Alright, I think the thing you've got to worry about more, and so do I, is the tectonic plate activity where the Pacific and North American plates meet.
Ah, yes.
And the big ones happen along the California, Oregon, Washington coastline or inland a little bit.
You'll probably feel it over Pahrump, even though the epicenter may be closer to the San Andreas Fault or some of the other coastal faults.
All right.
Sounds like I might make it.
Oh, I think you'll make it, but I would keep your surfboard handy.
Wild Card Line, you're on the air with Dr. Richard Boylan.
Hello.
Yes sir, you're scaring me.
I'm in Vancouver, Washington.
Doctor, I'm curious to know how we communicate with the average alien and is that telepathically or of course when these star children come here they've got to learn English don't they?
Well the star kids are here already.
I mean they're born to a perfectly normal looking mom and dad and they look Possibly human too.
Sometimes they have slightly larger heads and they have some of these ESP abilities and a few other characteristics like lower body temperature and they put out those orange sodium vapor street lights when they go down the street sometimes.
Their field interferes with that light bulb's field.
But they pass for, just to eyeball them, they pass for normal in the classroom and on the street.
Where the kids get to know that they're different is their extreme intelligence, their disinterest in the kind of stuff some kids are into, you know, fights and competitiveness.
They're globally aware.
They care very much what's happening halfway around the world, whereas the average kid is worried about when he's going to get his new video game.
They're thinking big.
They're thinking more like adults than kids.
They just are in a different frame than the average kid, and the average kid picks up on it and says they're weird, they're odd.
The Star Kids find it more difficult to fit in and look conventional.
Some of them have told me they work very hard at trying to play cool and play like the average human so that people won't know they're different, but deep down inside they know they just are put together different and think and feel differently.
There is that class.
Who you're talking about, Doctor, I really do.
West for the Rockies, you're on the air with Dr. Richard Boylan.
Hello.
Hello.
Hi.
Hi.
My question is, when you were talking about the Sumerians and the gold and how it's a lot of artistic privilege, it made me really curious if you've read any of Lawrence Gardner's work on the monatomical gold.
On the monatomical gold?
Well, the monatomical elements of the Platinum Group, specifically the gold that was used for, you know, the cancer cures, etc.
etc.
You're talking about the Ark of the Covenant?
Yeah, pretty much.
David Hudson rediscovered it down in Arizona.
Yeah, I'm aware of that and there's some indication they think that's the manna of the Old Testament times and some of the material that was used for some of the miracles in biblical ancient times.
I'm aware of that.
I respectfully listen to that information.
Hudson's and Gardner's, you know, I'm always, as a scientist, looking for the evidence I of course read the Bible many times and it could be that monatomic platinum class metals were the element that had strange and curative properties that were used to do some of these miraculous things, but I always look for the evidence and how do we cinch it that that was indeed what manna was or what
Was used by some of the ancient biblical folks to work the wonders that were worked.
And there's not enough evidence of that yet?
It's not cinched in my book.
I don't throw it out, but you know, in this field, you have to have a large gray basket.
You know, there's the white basket, absolute truth, and the black basket, absolute falsehood.
But the largest basket's gray, like, well, let me think about that, and I'll get back to you when there's a little more evidence.
All right, Stanton's gray box, there you go.
Yes.
Are the greys, you know the grey beings?
Yes.
They're called the greys.
Are they the same as the rest or are they different than the rest?
Alright, good.
What are the greys and what's the function of the greys?
Well, greys is a loose term.
The folks from the zeta reticuli system, Dr. Wolfe talks about the fourth and fifth planets Having some races.
It is very clear that the large-headed, almond-eyed, large, dark-eyed folks with the slanted eyes and so forth are a number of races.
They come in a variety of colors.
Gray, of course.
White, almost off-white.
Brown, blue, green, orange.
Some have three fingers, some have four fingers.
Clearly we're not talking about a single race.
We're talking about a whole cluster of folks first.
There certainly is a fairly typical description of a gray though.
Yeah, yeah.
But we're talking about lots and lots of varieties.
Skin colors may not be the end of the world.
We have a variety of those on Earth.
Many believe that the greys are perhaps a service class.
That they may be even designed beings and their place in the hierarchy is not all that high and they sort of just do jobs.
No.
There are some what we might call robot bioengineered robots that several of the races used to do some of the heavy lifting and the scud work.
But the grays are very high as it, you know, the various zeta-reticulin groups are highly evolved, intelligent, spiritual, metaphysically sophisticated folks that are part of the Peace Corps here trying to raise human objectives and functioning
and they do some of the, a lot of the
bioengineering effort to get our genome elevated to a higher ticking level
the star kid star seed thing. Well that sure is what we've been talking about
tonight and such sort of full circle
it's been great to have you here i want One more time, what's generally available on your website?
A huge amount of information about the Star Visitors, including a number of intriguing pictures about them that are real, not those monsters you see in the movie or in some lurid magazines, but this is the real deal.
When you go there you can see that, descriptions of the various races, what the Native Americans And other indigenous shamans have to say about the star nations among us.
What some of the church people have to say.
Lots of UFO information.
Some of my research about bases that aren't supposed to exist but do in the Southwest using ET technology.
And just a ton of stuff that anybody who goes there and says they're bored, I would have to feel their pulse.
So in other words, those who have been intrigued tonight, obviously many by the phones.
Really, to follow up, do that.
Go to Dr. Boylan's website, which is drboylan.com, and from there you can proceed to, perhaps, Labor Journey to the Stars, his book, and certainly you can begin to dive in, if you're intrigued enough, and find out more.
Fair description, Doctor?
Yeah, and one more thing I would invite people to, down at the very bottom of the website, you'll see a couple of my electronic newsletters you can get on board.
One is just my reports, and one is my reports plus chat among various experiences with Star People and others about this whole phenomenon.
So if people want to get on there for free and get this information in there, Mailbox as new things break, they can sign up for either Doc Rich's Boiling Reports or my UFO Facts list.
All this has to cost an awful lot of money.
How do you finance all this?
Out of my own pocket.
Out of your own pocket?
Yeah, I don't have some hidden philanthropist pouring money at me.
This is bootstrapping.
Star Kids Project and the workshop there are bootstrapping.
We, uh, self-finance from, uh, one thing to the next, uh, and try and keep it, uh, very low cost so that people have access.
Gotcha.
Doctor, we're out of time.
It's been a pleasure.
Very nice talking to you again.
Keep up the good work, Art.
Good night, my friend.
You too, my friend.
And, uh, for all of you out there, until next weekend, from the high desert, in the middle of the night, I'm Art Bell.
Good night.
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