George Ure and Clif High’s WebBot system—using Prolog-based "spiders" to analyze emotional language in internet text—unintentionally forecasted 9/11’s attacks via clues like "Washington" and "empty city." Their 250,000-word lexicon, expanded from Princeton’s Egg Project, detected a male-female attacker trio with explosives in tunnels, though timing remains unclear. Chinese military researchers independently used similar "spread spectrum" methods, prompting electronic probes by unknown entities. Despite CIA interest (via Intel Q) and potential for counterterrorism or surveillance, funding stalled; Ure and Clif now relocate, leaving the project’s profit-driven scalability as uncertain as its predictive accuracy. [Automatically generated summary]
Product the apparently flawless landing, and it was, of the Spirit Rover on Mars.
That's the scientist bored over photographs and other information suddenly awaiting a stream of even more temporalizing data and work on the day-to-day process of getting the robot ready to roll.
Spirit made a nerve-wracking but safe landing on Mars late Saturday on what scientists believe is the rocky bed of an ancient lake that once may have harbored life.
Well, we are down safely, and the first photographs have rolled in black and white.
We're going to get color photographs about 1.30 or three and a half hours or so from right now.
Be the first color photographs.
Got a call from Richard earlier.
In a feisty first debate of the election year, Howard Dean drew fire from fellow Democrats on Sunday over trade, terror, taxes, and then calmly dismissed his rivals as, why co-opted by the agenda of George Bush?
He said, I oppose the Iraq war when everyone else up here was for it, said the former Vermont governor, invoking the issue that helped fuel his 2003 transformation from a mere asterisk in the polls to front-runner.
British Prime Minister Tony Blair made a surprise visit to Iraq on Sunday.
Doesn't think it looked so good in a way, declaring the occupation at a critical stage with just six months to go before giving order back, you know, self-rule back to the Iraqis.
His top envoy warned that insurgents are growing more sophisticated and planning bigger attacks.
In China, I'm sorry to say, some 10,000 cats in wildlife markets were killed in its southern province of Guangdong after genetic testing suggested that a link to a suspected SARS case might be the problem.
And once again, extra security checks delayed a British Airways flight to Washington Dulles International Airport on Sunday as the U.S. entered a third consecutive week on a high state of alert for terrorists.
Now, not being an expert in these things, I don't know, what does that make it?
Something like a dozen flights that have been detained so far?
The only part of this that I don't understand, and of course I understand, you know, detaining flights, I would be thankful if they would do that for me if they thought there was somebody on board who might be going to, you know, drive it into a building or blow it up or whatever.
But what I don't understand is why, out of the delay of 10 or 12 aircraft in totality, counting the ones from Mexico and everything, why haven't they arrested anybody yet?
If they think they've got a name, and you would think they would not delay an airliner unless they thought they knew who was about to do what, then they'd maybe let them get on or start the boarding process and nab them.
But not yet.
Pop star Britney Spears' first marriage is going to be one of the most brief, even for Hollywood.
A 22-year-old married Jason Allen Alexander, a childhood friend from Louisiana, about 5.30 in the morning in Las Vegas, of course.
And so I guess it'll be over as soon as it begins.
Oh, by the way, I've got a pretty cool photograph.
If you've ever wondered how I get the signal from here to there, we do it by a satellite uplink.
And pictured in my webcam right now is a picture in my backyard of the satellite uplink that carries the signal to the geostationary satellite 22,300 miles above Earth.
And there it is.
That is the very dish that carries my voice right now.
A meteorite has hit northern Iran as if they haven't had enough trouble.
A meteorite came crashing in on Friday, did damage some property, but there were no immediate reports of casualties.
Now, the people in Iran are probably wondering what's going on.
I mean, if you've had an earthquake, a big one, and then you've had a meteorite crash, you're probably going to begin to think you're getting a message of some sort.
I think the headline is, Earth Changes Its Spin baffles scientists.
I love those headlines.
In a phenomena that has scientists puzzled, the Earth is right on schedule for a fifth straight year.
Experts agree that the rate at which the Earth travels through space has slowed ever so slightly for millennia now.
To make the world's official time agree with the Earth, usually required scientists, well, back in 1972, they began to add an extra leap second on the last day of every year, a leap second.
For 28 years, scientists repeated the procedure, but in 1999, they discovered the Earth was no longer lagging behind.
At the National Institute for Scientists and Technology in Boulder, a spokesman, that's Boulder, where they've got WWV, Fred McGinn, said that most scientists agree the Earth's orbit about the Sun has been gradually slowing for millennia, but he said they don't have any good explanation for why it's suddenly on schedule.
So I don't know if that's an important story at all, or maybe it is.
But what worries me about it is that scientists don't understand why it was lagging behind, nor do they understand why it's caught up again.
So maybe we have a problem.
Houston.
Famous abductee Betty Hill is now celebrating a status of being the oldest living abductee.
She was taken aboard a UFO with her husband Barney in New Hampshire in 1961 and says, quote, they grabbed us to see if we were similar to them.
I can understand why they were interested in us physically.
I don't hold that against them to this day.
And quote, she's 84 years of old and ailing now.
And I talk to Betty every now and then.
She's a daytime person, would love to have come on the show, but, you know, just can't stay up this late on the East Coast.
And by the way, she said that with the exception of the eyes, which were larger, the aliens she saw were very much like humans, the big difference being the eyes.
They were much, much larger.
All right, open lines, open lines promised, open lines delivered.
You don't think that's what did it to you, do you?
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No, I doubt that.
I think it's my brother, I think he turned me all bad because my brother, he's younger than me, but one time he just made me so mad and so angry that I literally shouted out and screamed so loud to where the whole neighbor could hear me.
When the Creator started, he had a thought to create everything from nothing.
Now you have to realize, in the existence of the Creator, the Creator is surrounded by energy.
So when he created, he started with a sphere, an empty sphere, which is our universe, but it was completely empty.
The only thing that penetrated that sphere, that bubble, was the energy that surrounded the Creator.
This energy was a frequency.
The frequency, because of the mass of the bubble, compressed.
And it compressed and compressed into matter.
The matter started to pull towards each other and compress.
As the matter started getting more and more dense, it started to create an energy within.
And because there was nowhere for the energy to go, it exploded into the Big Bang.
And if you think about it, that free energy that you're talking about, if you can compress that matter and get it to the point of explosion, just before the point of explosion, that's where your energy is.
Anyway, the big explosion happens.
The molting matter blows up and starts in this molting state of, you know, molting matter is blown out into the bubble.
And in its molting state, it's like a blob of jello.
Finally, it starts to break up.
No, it doesn't break up.
It just starts to stop bouncing jello, and it just stays still and hardens up.
This all, and I did speak to some people about this, but listening to your show for the past year, I started to realize that everything that I knew started to be validated.
You know, this black energy you're talking about, I knew about this.
That's the same thing, actually, that Dr. Cuckoo may have said in a slightly different way.
But yeah, that's right.
And that may, in fact, be gravity.
Gravity may be a push, not a pull.
It's always been traditionally thought, of course, that we were, in essence, pulled to the ground by the mass of Earth, and in a way, that's right.
But it's also, it may not be right.
It may be a push.
And it may be the dark matter that's pushing everything that's causing the expansion, which is his revelation, or that which was imparted to him in some sort of abduction.
And, like, the next day, I was listening to the radio, and they said that they had just pulled a body from a river, like, in the same location that I was dreaming.
Otherwise, hindsight is 20-20, as they say, right?
But anything you can call we're interested in from the high desert in the middle of the night, this is Coast to Coast AM.
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I used to feel your heart for long for the time to turn the story.
You change yourself, you take myself on the road Another night, another day goes wild I never saw myself do one of them You have to forget to play my role You take
yourself, you make myself on the road I, I live among the creatures of the night I haven't got the will to try and fight Against the moon tomorrow So I guess I'll just believe it Tomorrow will never come I said it's night I'm living in the forest of my dreams I know the night
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Hey, I had a quick little story about something that happened to me about 10 to 12 years ago with some demons, and I wanted to get your thoughts on the story after I told it to you.
I mean, I've had this trained entity in my dreams at other times, but this was actually in reality because I have somebody that confirmed that it actually happened.
if you're having dreams and maybe maybe it did get you i mean all the same person that had the same experience with me has told me about experiences that she's had with it other than You should be looking in the mirror and seeing if you see a little devilishness in the corners of your eye.
This is Billy, one of the many truck drivers who listen to you every night.
Yes, sir.
Currently in Georgia, I wanted to relay some information I received from friends and family who were active duty military.
And I'm retired military myself, but it seems to be that forces that are East Coast forces normally, you know, they're slated for the Middle East and they're stretched thin over there have gotten orders to get into the Pacific just as quick as possible.
The crux of the message would be that our brains, our mortal brains, to protect against the fact that we are in fact mortal and will die, are forced to construct an area of the brain that, in essence, instructs us to worship and believe in the hereafter.
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Yes, that is his message, but he also maintains that there is no spiritual realm.
Well, I noticed in his book, for instance, just to give you a quick example, Art, on the subject of glossolalia, he only devotes two small pages to it, and he dismisses it very easily.
And this is a phenomenon that I witnessed firsthand.
And I know that there is no earthly explanation for this.
But you see, Matthew is as, in my opinion, narrow-minded, as broad-minded as he is with respect to his belief, with anything that has to do with paranormal.
He's very narrow-minded, as narrow-minded as you might find many skeptics to be, and that is, if anything, his shortcoming.
He's got a fascinating, riveting, and I believe extremely compelling vision.
However, his refusal to examine in detail demonstrations of and proof of anything at all paranormal is a demonstration of a closed mind in that particular area.
So while he's fascinating, he's not the whole story.
And what I was hoping is that you might be able to give me some ideas or that your listeners might be able to help me because I'm still suffering from this.
Well, one of these times you're allowed to propel her to the ceiling.
All right.
Well, listen, I really don't know what to tell you, and I don't know how to be of help to you, except, I don't know, maybe you should wear gloves at night or something.
You know, I was just going to say that the show's been great.
You know, I was listening to the callers, the one that was just calling, that it'd actually be a great show to have somebody that does dream interpretation on.
I have some reservations about the dream interpretation business, if it is one.
I have some reservations about it.
I don't know if anybody can really interpret your dreams.
I know they say most times they mean opposite of what you think they mean and stuff like that, but I still don't know if that means I understand really what your dream was about.
But yeah, I've done it.
We'll do it again.
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Like another thing I was going to say, you know, I was the last person probably to ever access your website last year.
Yeah, well, if you could not have people do that, because there'll be some stupid little E1 who doesn't know any better, who doesn't understand the concept of OPSEC, and who might blow things.
But again, I say to you, sir, probably you shouldn't have called because I can assure you your phone call has only made people more suspicious than they were after the first phone call, which they might have just dismissed.
Well, we're going to have an interesting time over here.
I've got two guests coming up, actually, George Urer and Cliff.
Let me tell you about them.
George Urer was a news director in Seattle from 1970 to 1983, holds a master's in business administration, focused on longwave economics.
He's a cold holder on four patents related to battery state of charge instrumentation, has a patent pending on measuring user-friendliness of enterprise software.
He's been senior vice president of an international airline.
That's something.
A vocational school president has just wrapped up a two-year sales and marketing assignment for a major software company.
His website, urbansurvival.com, focuses on long-wave economics.
In June of 2001, George started corresponding with one of his website readers who was using the internet to forecast future events.
And that might be Cliff, who is an inventor and thinker.
His personal patents began with machine-assisted reading software, which allows humans to read up to 3,000 words a minute.
That's pretty fast, with computer screens.
This technology is currently being marketed by ebbrainspeed.com.
That's echo bravo brainspeed.com.
Cliff is a self-educated man, having read the Oxford courses for doctorates in economics and mathematics, is currently reading the coursework for chemistry.
He is also a self-educated engineer and comprehensive design engineer.
He is a software designer programmer, has worked as a consultant to Microsoft IBM, and he developed the web-bot software that I think we're about to talk about.
Web bots.
That's an interesting phrase all by itself, isn't it?
So somehow all of this does relate in some way to the work going on at Princeton.
I'm sure you know about that.
If not, We will certainly cover it in some detail.
So, coming up in a moment, human mass consciousness, I believe, as it relates to perhaps the web, which is sort of a universal, almost a universal consciousness of its own.
In 1996, I needed a capstone project for my master's, and I was looking at this area of what's called long-wave economics, which is those 50- to 70-year cycles that happen in the economy.
And, you know, they're called conratia cycles.
And I started corresponding with a number of readers of this website.
And it sort of grew word-of-mouth advertising, I guess, among people who follow the stock market.
And one thing led to another.
And suddenly in, well, not quite suddenly, if four years is suddenly, in 2001, I started corresponding with a fellow who said there was some interesting technology he was using to forecast economic events.
These are intelligent agents written in a programming language called Prolog, which literally is a hyphenated version of programming and logic.
Okay.
And these little intelligent agents and spiders can be thought of as the same kind of software critter that the major search engines use to go out and index everything.
Search engines search the entire web, find websites and descriptions, if they can, about what the general content is, and then list them on the search engines.
But people don't know these search engines, 24 hours a day, they're out there scouring the web, looking for stuff to list.
You can think of us as kind of like the reverse of those sorts of programs that might be run by alphabet soup agencies who look for email to see who's saying what to whom.
Okay, our program is rather, instead of being a database where it stores the information once it's found the pages it's looking for, it merely takes, if you will, a sample, a small biopsy of that page, disregards the rest of the page, and throws back that information to us.
Specifically, when you've got your little worm in there doing its thing, I guess worm is an unfair term to use, but it seems like it's kind of like a worm, sort of.
And for you, it's spiders and for George the bot.
But I want to know what it's really looking for when it goes out there.
Well, it's actually very complex, and I don't really need to get into the details and throw everybody off into the programming.
But basically what happens is we have a series of set URLs to go to and or we have a series, a lexicon of words that we're interested in seeing if they show up.
And so, for instance, we might be interested in the word offshoring.
See, originally I decided to develop this because I'd come across the sort of a duh moment when I noticed the link between emotionalism and what was happening with the stock market.
And I thought if one could predict how people were likely to feel emotionally about a stock, one could predict whether it was likely to go up or down, independent of such things as fundamentals, earnings, etc.
so you take any given subject that would have to be all sure but offshore would have to do with drilling in oil and what's going on what maybe what's being discovered and what's Really?
Then once the data comes back here in vast quantities, all of which is text, by the way, because we don't care about images, because what we're really after is an emotional quantity here to be able to quantify the emotions with which people might be dealing with a particular subject.
And so once that brings back all that information, then I have all these prologue programs that go through and compare it, that is, compare the words that have been brought back, with a much augmented version of the Oxford English Dictionary.
I went through a number of years ago for another software project and obtained a copy of 110,000 English word lexicon from Oxford, and I've supplemented that by putting emotional values to the words.
Then we make these little matrices and make some decisions and populate it in sort of a CAD program, and then we make conclusions.
So this model space gives you a way of looking at collections of dots.
And as the collections of dots change over time, you see entities, an entity is a collection of dots, where as you look through this loaf of bread, you'll see maybe halfway down the loaf, all of the dots coalesce into a single area of the slice of bread.
And over time, you can see shifts of language this way.
Now, if he comes along and says, she conned me out of my car, that sentence, while expressing basically the same concept, again has certain attributes and aspects that are slightly different than the previous one.
And we can go on and we can say, ultimately, get it up to the point where George says, some expletive, jacked my car from me.
Now, each of those has time quantities because the verbs being used, conned, stole, and jacked, have an attempt over time to express a different concept in our language.
In other words, it's not your father's English anymore.
We can no longer speak in the terms that our parents used because it doesn't express for us the immediacy, the emotionalism of the world in which we live in.
To say nothing of the fact that technology has changed and new words must come into being, we further must apply to those new words as well as old words new meaning.
And that is that by putting our little dots in this scattergram in our IntelliCAD program, and then allowing the dots to change over time, we get a sense of motion.
And so these dots, which represent language groups and really represent an emotional content, like they represent how people feel in the aggregate about certain subjects, we see that change over time.
And so by watching for the changes, we can make predictions.
Okay, so at some point, in other words, I can see how this project began as a pure economic aid to attempting to predict, for example, what the stock market or even an individual stock, I would presume.
In fact, it was rather shocking because while it was very good for my personal small number of shares investment with Microsoft because I saw the turn coming, it turns out that I was also able to look at larger and larger patterns.
Now, let me also stop and say that that happens to be my forte in software, is determining very early on in projects what are known as design patterns.
So in other words, you began to see beyond the immediacy of what you were trying to achieve with respect to, say, a single stock or whatever, you began to see other gathering groups of dots that indicated to you something else, right?
Or even beginning to decipher thinking about this sort of thing in general.
Eventually got to the point where I wrote the software, and then I had one of those my isn't that odd moments when I started getting back data and stuff that I hadn't really anticipated.
And then just being curious, I started digging into it.
It was only after reading some of the stuff that George had up about a subject called the debtberg that I realized that what my...
All right, that's a good place to hold it right there, you two.
Okay, I get it.
You see, you see, folks, where we're headed here is down the Princeton Road.
We're talking about, as reflected in the web and collected by the bots that these gentlemen send out on the web, lots and lots of information from, I guess, the mass consciousness, because that's what it's all about, emotions, right?
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I think it's time to get ready to realize just what I have found.
I have to get no care of what I am.
It's all clear to me now.
My heart is on fire.
My soul's like a wheel that's turning.
Be it sight, sound, smell or touch, there's something inside that we need so much.
The sight of a touch or the scent of a sound or the strength of an oak who moves deep in the ground.
The wonder of flowers to be covered and then to burst up through tarmac to the sun again.
Or to fly to the sun without burning a wing.
To lie in a meadow and hear the grass sing, to have all these things in our memory's heart, and they used them to come to us.
To hide!
Yeah!
To hide!
To hide my ashes, to take this place, on this trip, just for me.
To hide!
To hide!
To hide my ashes, to take this place, on this trip, just for me.
To hide!
To hide my ashes, to take this place, on this trip, just for me.
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Well, all right, this is a certified ride for sure.
I've got it.
I finally got it.
I know exactly the ground we're going down.
You all know about the experiments done at Princeton, don't you?
I think that mass consciousness may well be the most powerful force in the entire universe.
And maybe that's sticking my neck out a little bit, but I do believe that.
And I think Princeton is looking at the beginnings of that kind of with their own crystal set, in a way.
They put out all these little things they call eggs, not bots.
And these are computers spitting out random numbers at different geographic locations scattered around the world, reporting back to Big Mama at Princeton.
And there, they really have driven the chart right off the graph right off the chart every now and then by getting reports from these computers who suddenly, for some reason, begin not acting in such a random fashion, but suddenly acting with some coherence.
And that coherence shows up as a spike on a graph reported by all these computers.
And so what is it sending these computers right off scale with the non-randomness?
Well, it's the human mind.
And it would seem to spike around large national events like 911.
Just send it right off the chart.
We actually have the chart.
We could see it.
And so this to me was an amazing thing, followed up by a series of experiments that we did here on the air, one of them in conjunction with a show we did on what was going on at Princeton and elsewhere.
And now comes Georgior and Cliff, and I think they've walked into exactly the same realm.
They've just taken a different corridor to get there.
They were sending out these, well, bots, they'll call them, into the web.
And they were assigning numbers to words for emotional value.
And their purpose in doing this was monetary gain.
Let's be fair here.
They were looking at predicting what would happen with the market.
An admirable effort, I would say.
But in doing so, they were successful in that.
We'll ask about that.
But certainly in the process itself, very, very successful.
And then they began to see more than they were asking for in terms of results.
They began to see all kinds of spikes and strange things they could not explain, like the blips scene at Princeton.
And they began to put it together.
And to me, it looks like they're tapping into exactly the same perhaps ultimately strong signal when we separate it from the noise.
Maybe it is a very strong signal indeed, this mass consciousness thing.
But right now, it looks like it's mixed in more than we would want with the noise.
Signal to noise.
You always talk about that, right?
Well, maybe they'll find ways to pull more of the signal from the noise, or maybe they will at Princeton.
But all at once, I get exactly what we're talking about here.
We have found a way through the giant complex web to tap into information that's from essentially the collective, because what is the web?
Nothing but a large collector of everything, right?
That's what the web does.
It collects information on virtually everything, including people who have written things and emotional things at that.
And so these two gentlemen would appear to have walked into exactly the same beginning room that the Princeton people have.
Fascinating.
Perhaps the people at Princeton should be listening tonight.
Certainly, there is no greater single source of information, collective, current, contemporary human thought, no greater collection of it on the face of the earth, greater than on the Internet.
Was the analogy I gave of what Princeton began to detect with its form of crystal set and what you gentlemen have detected with your form of crystal set, looking into facts and emotions read by massive amounts of information from the Internet.
Is it a good parallel?
I mean, are you guys sort of looking at the same thing?
I mean, spot on in the sense that where I was used to seeing, as George had said earlier, we plot this stuff using a CAD program, a computer-aided design program that one might use to design machine parts or something.
And they have an ability to have an arbitrary space.
So I wanted something big, so I just defined an area that was 60 by 60 by 60.
And I was used to seeing these little dots representing a collection of information, a data set, if you will, moving about in a more or less chaotic and semi-random fashion.
Bearing in mind that each one might represent a company or how somebody felt about an industry or something like this because we were economically focused.
And then one day in June, about the same time I started discussing things with George in 2001, I noticed that we had a sudden shift, and all of a sudden these chaotic little darting dots started taking the shape of a dumbbell.
Well, I started thinking, well, what really looks like is happening here is a shift in time and some kind of an incident or some sort of an event.
And so what I did was to shift it back and forth in time the way one might take a VCR and move back and forth over a series of frames.
And so I got a feeling for what was going on.
And then I started looking into the individual data sets that the individual dots represented.
And that's where we get back to this Y Ching kind of conclusion because These data sets are thick, syrupy masses of words boiled down into their essence.
And so it becomes hard to pick out a specific, if you will.
I mean, how did you first discern the scary part was the very first thing I saw when I went on into the data set was that the core of it was the set of words that I had chosen previously to represent basically the moneyed interests of the planet.
That is to say, how currency flows, etc.
Because that, of course, is an element of confidence, which is an element of economic indications.
So my conclusion at the time was that, well, there appears that we're going to have a military accident involving the money center of the United States.
Because bear in mind, at the time, we were not modeling terrorism.
Yeah, in fact, initially, when I read the first webbon output, and the paper is still up on my site, the conclusion that I drew was that something would go terribly wrong with the U.S. abrogating the anti-ballistic missile test treaty.
Because one of the things that became clear in hindsight was when we put up the original WebBot forecast in late June and then updated it July 2nd of 2001, we had no idea that this stuff we were picking off the Internet would take so long to materialize.
I'm still not clear, though, in simple language, how you came to either of the two conclusions that you just discussed based on the data that you described.
To me, that's where the leap is, and I can't figure out how you made it.
You get to the point where you look at the movement of the dots through the model space, and then, of course, the interpretation is to see each dot, what it actually represents.
The dots have various different aspects and attributes that go into their creation.
And an aspect is a primary collection of words.
And then attributes modify those words.
So we might find within a central dot that all the others seem to be coalescing around words like currency, dollar, fed, this kind of thing.
The attributes then might be those words that brought in the emotionalism, usually verbs, many times adverbs, sometimes prepositional statements, etc.
Okay, because see, it's not going to come back and say New York City, but we might indeed get some geographic indicators.
The more data we have, the more layers we can put on there.
And some words actually, by their nature, not merely place names, but other words indicate direction and are, for instance, primarily used in the South in form of regional dialects, so give us a geographic pointer.
Yeah, and Art, if I could, in the original WebBot work, we did get some directional indicators.
There were actually three that we put up on a map.
One of them was an interesting cloud of geographical indicators that was moving over Las Vegas toward California.
And that was in late June, which is interesting because that's about the time that the no-good Knicks were off partying in Las Vegas.
So, you know, needless to say, it was mind-boggling to me when I woke up on my sailboat in San Francisco, where I was at the time my wife and I were there.
I woke up the morning of 9-11, watched it in the aft cabin of the boat, and called my friends and called Cliff and said, did you see what happened?
With the Princeton information, they actually graph the noise.
You know, if you've ever seen an oscilloscope, for example, graphing a noise floor, they graph the noise floor of the normal random nature of the computers that they've got planted out around the world.
And then when things begin to go non-random, they receive that input, and it shows up as an actual little rise in a graph of the collective consciousness doing something,
coming up way up off the noise floor, and either knowing something is about to happen, or they're not exactly sure what it is they're seeing, but they're seeing these giant responses to events like 9-11 and a lot of others.
This work has been going on for some time now.
And I'm wondering if you see a similar, for example, on 9-11, did you see a similar spike that you would yell and scream was that far above your noise level?
Bear in mind, the economic situation that I was looking at was not necessarily personally focused, because at that time I had no further interest in the stock market per se, because I owned no stock.
So I was just interested in a general curious kind of a wink.
And at that time, but because the central focus of it had been economic, and we kept picking it up as a military accident involving the money center of the United States slash the world with all of this other aspect about it, not realizing that when you think about a military accident and in a strange kind of a way, it sort of represents a terrorism.
Spread spectrum is transmitting perhaps sequentially on many, many, many, many frequencies at once.
So there's just a sort of a general rise in the noise floor if you can measure anything at all if you happen to be listening on a scanner or something like that.
I mean, spread spectrum to the individual frequency is almost transparent.
And that's really what, in a sense, what Princeton's doing.
They're picking up the change in the noise as a burst of spread goes by.
What we're doing with webbots is we're trying to get, you know, we'll take a sample, but we'll only pick up appropriate pieces of that spread spectrum signal sporadically because we're still working on how the heck do you decode this stuff.
Yours actually might be, I don't know if it's more subtle or if you might argue it's more specific.
I'm not really sure yet.
But I don't think the people at Princeton have begun to discern yet what these giant spikes mean, whether it's good stuff, bad stuff, where it might be, that sort of thing.
It's just something that is coming from, you know, they're measuring that's apparently coming from the collective consciousness.
Since you're using words and assigning emotional meaning to those words, one could almost argue that yours is more specifically targeted than theirs.
Now we'll proceed into the, I don't know, the I guess the heart of what's coming, because they will have predictions for us based on what they know.
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And that's the human mind.
This is exactly where this program ought to be.
My guests are George Ewer and a gentleman who declines to call himself anything but Cliff.
Once again, George Ur and Cliff, and I think it's very important for the audience to understand, again, Cliff is not giving his last name simply because of the sensitivity of the programs and the code that he's writing and the fact that he's using it openly on the web and he is subject to many a web attack as you might imagine he would be.
So for that reason, he's not further identifying himself and I identify with that problem.
In fact, following the 911 event, when my wife and I got our sailboat down to San Diego, Cliff and I responded to a Department of Defense broad area announcement, or BAA.
And I consider myself pretty darn good at PowerPoints, but you see how difficult it is to explain what we're doing.
And the problem with this broad area announcement was I had to boil everything, including two years of budget, down into a single PowerPoint slide.
Cliff had in late June done a scaled-down run of the WebBot looking for the next terrorist attack.
And so what the WebBot said was the entity is, and I'll read this verbatim, the Wahhabi entity is seen as preparing an attack on a site with aspects of South with specific references to a place where the wood in the earth grows upward.
Nearby will be an energy plant filled with tremendous effort work.
The target chosen for the entity has associations with a vertical wall ascent, near which is a low land or low-lying area from which there rises power and influence or confluence.
This latter may suggest a site where a power plant sits at the base of a cliff or naturally occurring wall.
Now, it goes on from there, including some of the more interesting phrases.
Further, there are references to an empty city nearby the target, and one of my website readers suggested that sure sounds like an electrical switchyard with rows of transformers because that looks kind of like an empty city when you think about it.
You know, in the manner that you just described what turned out to be the power outage, I would have expected a very similar output, if you will, from a remote viewer.
I also noticed that sort of thing when I first started doing the interpretation, that all the language seems to, in the process of boiling down to this thick, syrupy mass, also seems to condense down to what I called archetypes.
Not the Jungian archetypes.
But nonetheless, the same sort of archetypes that you're correct are presented by remote viewers and other people that are wielding some form of psychic phenomenon.
All right, as you have described this process to others, whilst no doubt begging for funds to get the bandwidth to proceed on a larger scale, what kind of response back have you received?
In any event, the CIA sent us back a nice little letter.
I had to prepare a business plan for them, which I did.
And they said, boy, this is interesting, and we sure would like to look at it further.
But basically, what it came down to was it's a little on the left field kind of thing, and we've already funded seven projects, and we're not even really sure how to categorize this.
It sure is interesting, and they sure sound like they're interested.
Perhaps if you can move to the next level, take it to the next level, get a little more documentation under your belt on this, you'll get more than just passing interest.
At the moment, I'm, well, I don't want to say I'm stealing bandwidth, but I'm big borrowing, and people have been very kind to run some of my programs for me.
So basically, we're dealing with cable modem kind of things.
Well, it's still amazing what one can do with even limited, but general broadband capability.
I mean, I can understand how you're getting the results, but just try and imagine if you had computational power thousands of times greater than you've got now, as in perhaps a cray of some sort, and unlimited bandwidth, heaven only knows what you might come up with.
Part of our program art is the spiders themselves are looking for particular words, and they carry around with them a lexicon, and they sort of like sweep little bits of the internet.
Yeah, yeah, right around the time of the anthrax attack.
Which we, unfortunately, because I'm on a different computer than I was on the boat, and yada, yada, we had numerous other hits along the way when we ran the bots.
We picked up some aspects of attack on house or assembly.
We got some aspects of the American 587 crash.
And interestingly, in February of 2003, we were picking up all kinds of things having to do with maritime disaster, great maritime disaster.
And that turned out apparently to have been the space shuttle Columbia disaster, which was a spaceship.
And interestingly, and I think I can say this safely, Cliff, the Chinese project apparently is taking much bigger chunks of text, which means they've probably got mainframes to roll on.
Let me ask a question about the Chinese source code, if I could.
Was there any way at all to decipher any aspect of that Chinese code?
It was written in straight C. Yeah, and if you were able to, how similar an approach were you able to discern they were taking with regard to what you do?
They were, that was what was so shocking was that to a certain extent they were operating off of some of the same design patterns that I had also discovered.
So I recognized almost instantly, as soon as I saw the few function templates that I had captured, I recognized them as being that same algorithm.
And so I went looking for, within that chunk of code, I tracked it down within my input from my bot and went and read the entire 2048 bytes.
That's all that I bring back is 2048, excuse me, 2048 word chunks.
And I was actually looking at their code and it was remarkably similar.
Mine is more efficient because I'm poor and don't have the resources that they're putting towards it.
So whereas their whole lexicon is based around phonetic groupings, I've distilled everything down to integers just because it's easier for machines to deal with integers than it is word groups.
I think George heard me in Florida when I discovered what I was looking at.
Because, first off, I saw it as validation.
Bear in mind that for years, since like 97, I've been pretty much toiling in the little garage here, not even knowing if my basic premise was successful or would be successful.
It's very difficult to say because bear in mind, of course, all we've really seen is their gathering component.
We don't know about their processing component.
True, there were clues in the gathering component as to what they were looking for, but no clues as to what they might be doing with it once they had it.
The judgment I was making was based on having been in software for 20-plus years, being a C master.
And seeing how they approached it, they were not concerned with bandwidth.
They were not concerned with volume data, so they had all kinds of potential processing power.
And correct, there were some clues as to what they were interested in, and they were very much interested in the same kind of emotional aspects, if you will, the confidence factors relating to both economic and military.
And in our case, specifically of the United States, but I don't think it's limited to that.
Was it your view that they were trying to recognize perhaps that you were not a large enough operation and that attacking you electronically would prevent you from progressing?
I think that what they were attempting to do was to probe and see exactly what I was doing.
It's relatively rare to encounter other intelligent agents on the net and to be able to see that your source code, for instance, in this case, was taken.
So they must have been rather startled, just as I was.
And so I think they were just more curious as to, well, what's this guy doing?
They were attempting to probe and get in on specific IP ports.
And see, I run, for a time, I was interested in doing security work, and I made a honeypot out of Prolog.
And a HoneyPod is a thing that monitors your ports and pretends to be a particular operating system to sort of invite them in to see what they're going to attempt to do.
So I could sit there and watch some of their attacks initially until I got bored with it.
They wanted to see what was on my hard disk, and they were attempting to specifically look for source code relating to DLL in a compiled or exposed C form.
What these gentlemen have stumbled on, of course, is enormous.
Does it surprise me?
Well, yes, a little bit, but not that much, because when there's something like this, the human race can something new like mass consciousness, control of it, monitoring of it, using it for forecasting, when there's a new force that's suddenly realized, it's typically realized in many places, if not simultaneously, very close.
That just seems to happen to the human race.
Ideas seem to coalesce in the human race at about the same time.
The psychic experience is usually an individual thing, at least when you have one of those things happen to you yourself.
So, in terms of individuals and exploring their own consciousness, I don't think computers can replace it.
On the other hand, there is this what seems to be a spread spectrum kind of thing where certain types of knowledge of the future appear to be dispersed broadly across the Internet if you know how to lay seven or eight layers of prologue against language shift.
Dean Radin's work up at boundaryinstitute.org was really one of the markers that I found very interesting.
And if you haven't read his paper on time-reversed human perception, it's really a classic because what he demonstrates is...
Oh, yeah, absolutely.
Absolutely.
Phenomenal brain power.
And what he demonstrated in a lab is that five to six seconds Before you see an emotionally charged picture, your body begins to react before you've actually seen it, implying that you've got five seconds of lead time at least that's measurable in a lab.
But I mean, everything you're saying goes nowhere in saying no to what I said.
I mean, ultimately, it seems to me that some future form of what you're doing or, I don't know, what's being done at Princeton, all of this is going to coalesce into a pretty fine, reliable receiver or turn.
Whatever you want to call it.
Yeah, much more reliable than an individual human experience.
My experience with psychics, people who look at future world events, some of the very best in the world, I get to interview them, as well as people who work in the realm of remote viewing.
I mean, all of this I sort of lump together.
And when I look at it, frankly, it's exactly the same realm that you all are working in, whether you know it or not.
Well, it may be then that we're limited to that's the tuning on our receivers, our antennas, and we just may have to figure out a new way to tune them.
It may be that we could do that with the computers.
I mean, literally, we run up against a money wall because in order to take it to the next level, right at the moment, our lexicon that we're working with, words that we match against, is about 250,000 in size.
Our original 110,000 Oxford English dictionary that I more or less borrowed when I was having some discussion with him and then altered for my own purpose, as well as all the new words that we've populated, including geographic references and so on.
But that could easily be a million words.
Also bear in mind that even though I know a number of different other human languages, I'm not a native speaker of them.
Therefore, I'm reluctant to assign an emotional value to a particular word in another language, not knowing, for instance, how a particular word in Sanskrit is.
We've had some follow-up from them in the sense that they're still interested and they want to keep our information on file, so at least they're not round filing it.
Right.
But we've also had some discussions with those people that might be considered to be primary contractors for the government under Department of Defense work.
And the problem I've run into in discussing the thing with the managers is trying to get the concept across.
And while the value is implied, the methodology sounds so strange that it sounds basically too unreliable to.
Yeah, well, here's the road that I think you're going to have to take.
You're going to have to refine this to the point where you do what you just did, even as unsavory as it may seem.
You sent me an email with a time stamp on it.
You're going to have to begin to log, record predictions, even if they're just very general predictions for a certain time.
I don't Know how specific you can get at this point, but you're going to have to begin to log a record, and at least, if nothing else, at the end of the day, or quite a few days, you all will develop a record that will defy somebody not to look into how you're doing it.
That may be an unsavory way for you to pursue this, but I don't see any other course right now.
I don't think we're opposed to that, and we've, in fact, been doing that ever since, what, August, George, August of 2001, when we first started time-stamping with the military?
Correct, more or less, in the sense that, for instance, when everybody was running around saying the D.C. sniper was a lone white individual in a white van, we had information indicating it was two individuals, one with a subservient relationship to the other related to the military, Islam was involved, and all these other.
One of the readers of my website actually sent in the insignia from Fort Lewis of the particular Army group.
I mean, we had things that were associated with military paratrooper kinds of things, including globes circling above and so forth.
And to us, you know, it's like, okay, we've been there, we've time stamped, and I think really one of our motivations for being on your show tonight is to put it out there because we're confident there are other researchers.
And, for example, Princeton, I mean, if you took the Princeton Egg Project and married it up with our project, you know, it's like getting a number of different perspectives.
And if you can then take all of those, it's like diversity receivers almost.
Again, when was that real aha moment when you described that again, when you realized that instead of just seeing a sort of a return expected on economic data that you were seeking, which is a legitimate reason to have started into all of this, to begin to see these other things?
Now, bear in mind, I'd been plotting this since perhaps mid-1999 in IntelliCAD, and I was used to seeing, for all intents and purposes, it looks like fireworks.
I mean, there are various different little colored dots that appear to move in short little bursts as I advance the program.
And all of a sudden, there was this aha moment because the movement of the dots no longer was sort of little jerky and random.
They all coalesced into what specifically looked like a tipping point.
And that's when I contacted George and said, George, all right.
I think there are a couple of things that are interesting about the Internet.
One is that the Internet is this place where consciousness can coalesce into groups, news groups, discussion groups, and so forth.
And it's not from, you know, when you step back and look at it from the longwave economic perspective, it's not at all dissimilar to the period that happened in the late 1920s.
If you recall, radio was the new technology of the 1920s.
And when the country ran into a huge economic mess in the 1930s in the Depression, one of the things the government did was slapped regulations on use of radio, and that was all embodied in the Communications Act of 1933.
I think it's a reasonable concern to look at the Internet the same way.
I mean, right now, anybody can put a server up as both Cliff and I have done.
And I figure it's probably only a matter of time until government figures out that, hey, we really ought to regulate the number of servers because the amount of bandwidth, yada, yada.
But again, we've already seen a huge deterioration in the Internet itself in the sense that when we began the project in the heyday of 1999 with the Internet bubble really expanding to its maximum point, since then, I have found hundreds, literally hundreds of servers that have been taken offline as companies have gone out of business.
And these servers hosted far more than just company information frequently.
They acted as email servers, routers for news groups, et cetera.
I don't want to dispute you because you're correct in specific areas.
The popularity is increasing, and for my line of work, so to speak, it's very good because the part of the popularity that's increasing are the discussion boards, the human-to-human interaction that I want to try and capture.
But at the same time, a lot of the resources and the computing power that we were using to capture some of that is now gone in the sense that I don't know how many Internet companies have gone bust in the blow-up, but up in Seattle, there were probably quite literally on the order of maybe 4,000 or 5,000 servers that went offline with just that little area alone when its Internet companies went bust.
But on the longer time scale, one of the concerns we've had in the WebBot outputs has been that they keep seeming to indicate that from November 2003 forward, and this goes back to some of our 2001 runs, there was some question about the relevance of the U.S. Fed and the future of the overall global economy.
And that's kind of worrisome stuff, especially now that since November the decline of the dollar has picked up speed.
I'm just noticing, you know, you have the thing from that gold group.
We've had the price of gold trading just here in the time your show's been on.
We're only $1.20 away from $4.20 gold.
And so one of the real questions is, gosh, here we've got this really cool technology, and the threats to it are, one, we could be right and the Fed could become irrelevant along with the U.S. standing as the global reserve currency.
Then there's the dropping number of, what was the dropping number of servers.
I think we've seen it stabilize, and I think we'll see growth resume.
But then there's the issue of taxation.
When something gets successful enough, you know, the government looks at it and says, hey, this is a deep pocket for us, and we've got a $44 trillion black hole in the budget.
Very interesting, isn't it, that the information gleaned from writing these programs, these bots, and sending them out into the net looking for response from the collective, really?
That's what it is.
That's certainly what we're talking about.
Collective consciousness.
It's predictive, and I guess it's timeless.
In other words, you can look forward into the future, or perhaps to calibrate what you're doing, like Princeton, you can look into the past as well.
Okay, listen, everything I'm hearing from these gentlemen makes absolute, absolute sense to me.
And if you followed along with the Princeton story, the experiments that we've done on the air over the years, and now what George and Cliff have stumbled into.
And I think it's fair to say they did stumble into it based on what I've heard.
I mean, they had good intentions, surely, in what they were doing.
Nothing wrong with making a buck, trying to figure out what stocks or the stock market is going to do.
Nothing wrong with that in the world.
People have been writing programs and trying to figure out ways to take a look, see at what's going to happen with stocks for a long time.
So nothing wrong with trying to get Rich, and that's what probably the motivation was, and that's cool.
But then you stumble into something else, something totally unexpected like this, and it probably isn't going to make you much money, is it?
At this point, yeah, yeah.
In fact, it's probably going to cost you, in fact, it's going to cost you money to even get this thing off its wobbly legs and get going, isn't it?
We've been diverted because we kind of got our focus shifted once we discovered what it was capable of and no longer really pursued the individual stock kind of thing.
And so have kind of, I don't want to say abandoned that, but take another larger direction.
All right, I want to tell the audience it's going to be perhaps problematic trying to take calls when we have two guests.
So I'm going to be relying on Fast Blast a lot here, which is a way to send us a message on the Internet.
Just go to coastcoastam.com and look for Fast Blast and then fire me off one.
Here is one from Richard in Toronto.
He says another interesting thing about the Princeton strike on 9-11, a spike rather on 9-11, was that the chart spiked up a couple of hours before the attack hit, as if to suggest humanity might have sent something.
Or the couple of hours prior was when the first terrorists began their move, or it was reacting to the terrorists.
When I've discussed this with others, they didn't know.
Was this spike representative of some general collective consciousness knowing that something was about to happen?
Or could it have been reading the minds of the hijackers who were about to end their own lives?
I would presume the former, simply because the way I think about it is the chorus line in the theater analogy.
You've got a chorus line, say the Rockettes or something.
All these nice women going into a theater.
It gets dark.
They're going to watch a movie on their break or something.
And one woman at the end of a row feels something on her foot, and she instantly thinks it's a mouse, and she jumps up and screams.
And in the darkened theater, with the heightened tension of the film and etc., and one woman after another within this line screaming simply because the woman next to her screamed, we get this generated emotion.
Now, I can see that the people that are involved would be there, since they're screaming at their own frequency, so to speak, if they had been psychic or were tuned, could have perceived themselves screaming in the future simply because they're the best antenna for their own vibration.
So is there any way, I wonder, of, I mean, after all, we know what's happened in the past, save those politically resurrected and changed events in history.
But basically, we know when large, very large events occurred.
Unfortunately, to do that, we would have to have had the bots pretty much continuously deployed and have been building model space more or less continuously.
Then, yes, we might be able to go back.
Incidentally, there's a run, a very short run.
I think it's under 2 million samples that Cliff did over the past couple of days, which is up on his website.
And one of the things that's unique about this particular run is it focuses on immediacy.
So in other words, back to that Toronto listener's question, what seems to happen is there's this shift in language that happens, let's say, 45 to 60 days before a major emotional event.
And then a couple of hours before the event, as think of it as this quantum potential for an event moves forward in time, it begins to get into a non-linear curve and begins, the potential rises at an exponential rate.
And at some point, as it ascends this exponential probability curve, the Princeton eggs go, yep, that's it.
And then the event itself is the actual realization of the quantum change.
In fact, at this stage, I actually saw the real value in this technology being able to be applied as, say, an overlay to what the FBI or NSA or somebody might be doing on a specific level.
Well, yeah, speaking of that, you're on a national radio program right now.
A fairly rare opportunity, perhaps, and certainly an opportunity for you to take any data, let's say, for the coming year that you feel at all confident about and getting it out here and now publicly.
There's nothing like a whopper of a prediction made ahead of time on national radio.
The run that Cliff just did, one interpretation of the run that was just posted This afternoon was that, or let's see, this afternoon East Coast time, this morning West Coast time, was that we will,
an interpretation is that we could see an attack by a male and female attacker using three explosives to set off some form of respiratory distress weapon in a crowded place which was approached from a tunnel.
And it's very unlikely that that's really what's going to happen.
But there's something that, if the immediacy reads are correct, might happen over Wetcliffe the next week.
It may come out that over the next week we find out that the reason that they withheld the British airlines flights may have been because they were looking for a man and a woman, and what we're picking up now is stuff that's hidden.
It's been a puzzle for me until now, and really it still is, what they're doing with these airliners.
I mean, somehow this is just basic thinking, but you would imagine that if they had enough specific information about a specific flight, they would have perhaps even names.
And so the expectation would be there'd be some kind of arrest that would have potentially come out of all this.
I don't know.
It's interesting.
Pondering their actions, you can imagine what kind of data they have they're working with.
Actually, I feel for them because it's the same kind of thing that we have, this rather muddy, murky stew that you sort of fish around with, and you look at the haul something up and say, well, what does this mean?
On the other hand, if we look at things from our bot perspective, if we had had the ability to do them in a native Arabic fashion, even if, in this case, the ones who have declared themselves to be the enemies of the Western world, the Al-Qaeda, were using a cell structure, they still rely on familial relationships.
So somebody, some al-Qaeda member's grandmother knows something and might make some slip in her language on the internet that the bot kind of stuff could pick up.
Even though she doesn't actually reference what her grandson is doing, we know something is up just because of the nature of the emotional values of her language has changed.
It's odd that they bring that up because a lot of the archetypical timing clues that I use within the lexicon are based on what I discovered within the Mesoamerican calendar.
And I prefer to call it that rather than Mayan, but we're speaking of the same thing.
And within that calendar, we find that they have 20 named days arranged in groups of 13.
And this comes to 260, which is the orbital period of Venus, which coincides with the orbital period of the Earth every so many years, which coincides with the orbital period of Saturn, etc., etc.
And we get to this other area of interest of mine, which has been hyperdimensional or hyperspatial math.
And it's rather odd, as I say, that that was brought up.
But the 2012 transition, if you will, from the Mayan Long count probably is making its, or definitively is making itself felt on the Internet now because I do pick up an emotional worry quotient, if you will, around that date.
Well, right now, you guys are like the striving artists of the cyber world, right?
So there's got to be a way you can make some money on this.
And I can think of one way, but you might not like it.
But nevertheless, I'd like to suggest it.
Why not package and sell your code, your program, sell your program at some point, at least in beta, as a scenario predicting software program for predicting the future.
I'm not really throwing up an objection so much as countering with some of the complexities involved in the sense that I've often questioned whether any of the emotive values that I've assigned, while showing some level of meaningfulness, are really meaningful in the broad scheme of things.
So just because I've assigned a particular value to a particular word or group doesn't necessarily mean that someone else would interpret it that same way.
So what we have here at this stage is nine prologue programs, some C programs, a big IntelliCAD situation that's run by an Auto Lisp program, and then I sit down and drill into all of these words with this lexicon.
Believe me, no one would ever want to run this as a recreational kind of a product.
We used to run into that when we were using a different kind of intelligent agent because we would occasionally end up sweeping through batched email queues that were on specific servers.
But since I've dropped that approach, there was a sort of a sea change in the Internet commercially around the year 2000.
And some of the old conventions that had been in existence since the ARPA days kind of fell by the wayside, along with the robots.txt, which is a file that a guy who runs a server could put up there that would say, in essence, robots stay away or robots can go and look at this area, etc.
And that kind of convention went away.
And since then, I have stopped using spiders that skip from server to server to server in the main, To be honest, because I was picking up so much pollution.
And in fact, we had indeed polluted our own event stream at one point.
What ends up happening with webbots is if we're running a webbot run and do a snapshot while the run is still out there, people would pick up things on my website and like the Gold Antitrust Action Coalition or Antitrust Group has a bunch of discussions going on at places like Lemetropol.
And so pieces of my post about what the web bots are predicting show up at some of these financial sites.
And then we go out and sweep that same stuff.
Then we end up getting this feedback loop going.
So it's not really the kind of thing that you can put out there on a, hey, today here's the update on the web bot.
You really need to They are scared to death for understandable reasons of coming on the radio and talking about what they're doing for fear that it will affect the experiment, their ongoing experiments.
And I do understand that concern and fear, and that's why you don't hear a lot from them.
They really are concerned about that.
For you, it was a feedback problem.
For them, since it's science, they're trying to keep their results pure.
So coming on there and talking about it to millions of people could potentially pollute it.
And I would not, for instance, do a WebBot run for some considerable time simply because we will pollute it just with the number of your listeners that will be discussing this online tomorrow.
And that's probably why the CIA only put you in the let's keep watching these guys kind of this is interesting scenario, but we don't know yet type place.
Yeah, I think we're at the point where we've had a lot of intellectual gain from the project.
We've had, just like playing with radios is fun, playing with web bots is fun, but we don't know if we can really push the technology any further until somebody with very deep pockets steps up.
The reason for it is that I'm just wrapped up one job assignment in South Florida, and I'm moving to my ranch in Texas on Tuesday.
And Cliff is, you know, what do you do after you invent super speed reading and webbots and you're the prince of SQL?
The nature of the markets themselves have changed, and we discovered this back in June and July of 2001, focused on some of our financials.
For instance, I will be flat out, and I will state that there is no point for anyone, in my opinion, and I'm stating this as an opinion, to involve themselves in any way shorting any market that's under the control of the United States government or the Fed because they are indeed being controlled.
And therefore, why bother betting in that casino when you know the casino is rigged?
Well, specifically, when we had the entities pointing to the U.S. dollar becoming irrelevant, in other words, the Federal Reserve Note becoming more or less irrelevant at the end of 2003, I tried going short in a massive way with put options on various indexes.
And what we expected would happen, the fall of the dollar began right on schedule.