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Sept. 5, 2003 - Art Bell
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From the high desert and the great American southwest, I bid you all good evening, good morning, good afternoon,
wherever you may be in all of the world's time zones.
From this great, now drying, finally drying high desert, I'm Art Bell.
Great to be in for George Norrie.
Thank you, George, and Premier Radio Networks and everybody involved.
Great to be here.
Our first hour tonight, we're going to examine a pretty close-in, perhaps, phenomena.
There are people who think that a 1995 Prop Circle may have predicted something for September 6th.
So we won't have long to wait, whatever that is.
Coming up, Marshall Masters in a moment.
Next hour, after reading all of the possibilities, I've decided we are simply going to throw open the unscreened dimensional portals and see what crawls through.
In other words, we'll just have fun.
But coming up in a moment, Marshall Masters is a former CNN science features news producer, freelance technical writer, television analyst, and publisher of the website yowusa.com.
Yowza, I guess.
He spent three years researching the material for his book, God Child Covenant, Return of Nibiru has written extensively on Nibiru flyby-related topics to include catastrophic earth changes, crop circles, impact events, and future technologies.
So coming up in a moment, we'll find out what all this is about the 6th.
I mean, it's just right around the corner.
After all, stay right there.
A crop circle that may look at the date September 6th as something, some event, some catastrophic
event, I don't know, an alignment of the planets, a crop circle covered up by a government,
all of that is what we're about to talk to William.
Welcome to the program, Marshall.
Welcome.
Good to have you.
I mean, that is kind of where we're going here, isn't it?
A crop circle covered up by a government, is that correct?
Well, right now what's happening over in England and over here is rather amazing.
The best thing for me to do is just give you a brief chronology of what I call Contact Denied.
Contact Denied.
Lay it out.
Okay.
Starts off on the 3rd of July.
I published an article on extraterrestrials at odds with crop circle messages.
I was talking about the Crabwood 2002 formation.
Are they at odds with formations?
What do you mean?
Well, it was just the title of it, but it was in the, this is the one where the alien holding the disc?
Yes.
And in there they're saying, beware of, you know, basically the people come on the flour and sugar and they're telling you the wrong things.
You got to believe that there are good people out there as well.
And so there was a message in there and it was a warning.
No, they weren't referring to our government, were they?
Well, it's hard to say who they were referring to.
It just was a general warning.
And then what happened is that on the 16th of July, a fellow by the name of Maurice Osborne, he had done a crop circle video which I had based that article on.
And I was helping him to get it out on the internet.
And his home was broken into.
They didn't touch anything except they went to his personal area of his home where he had the master copy of his video, Alien Messages, and it was destroyed.
Destroyed.
Destroyed and left?
Or destroyed and taken?
Disappeared?
Or what?
Destroyed and left.
The way he described it was they pulled the tape out and tore it up into knots.
Then, after this happens, Paul Viguet reports, this is the 18th of July, that there are conspiracies and threats against crop circle researchers in England.
Verified?
Verified.
Now, he's got that verified.
I just received an email today from him.
He's got solid proof on that.
He's going to be bringing out an article very shortly.
What were the nature of the threats?
The threats, as I understand them, is basically general harassment, especially against the crop circle researchers that are using the ultralights.
So they're threatening to basically deny them access to the air and other things.
So there's a lot of it.
Right now there's a lot of noise and a lot of bad stuff happening over there.
It's not one big happy family.
I understand that the crop circles in England suddenly stopped.
Yes?
Absolutely.
And this is something that I was waiting for a continuation of the 2002 Crabwood Formation.
And on August 9th... The Crabwood Formation having sent what message do you feel?
I think that the Crabwood Formation had a spiritual message.
It had a single word sentence in all upper caps, BELIEVE.
I think it was telling us that they're trying to tell us in this message that some difficult times are ahead, that we've got some friends out there, but that there are also some other people who are not trustworthy and what they're doing is they're offering false promises.
Be careful of those people.
And then also the message says, Conduit Closing ends with a comma, which implies a continuation.
And so this had happened in the middle of August of last year.
And it represented a sequence of events over a three-year period of time, which I detail in the article, where you have elements of communication building one upon the other.
So like Paul Harvey, you were waiting for the rest of this story.
That's right.
I was waiting for the other shoe to drop.
And what happened was that I published an article on the 9th of August.
And this one was called Recurring Crop Circle Pictograms.
Could be a key to a dialogue.
And there was a simple glyph that kept reappearing.
It appeared four times.
Four complete circles connected with lines.
Now, the first three times it appeared, it appeared on its own.
However, the fourth time it appeared, it was the first element of an extremely complex message.
And so to me, it started clicking in my head.
This is a key to something.
If you're familiar with the internet, and that's the linguid digital of our species, and we use the Ethernet, and Ethernet has packets of information, every packet has a header.
Now, not to get into the gobbledygook, but every header says Here's the addressee, and here's the sender.
And this is the simple part of the packet.
The other part of the packet, the much larger part, is the complex part that contains the message.
So what I'm seeing is like... You think we just got the header?
Yes, I'm seeing the header.
Except the fourth time the header shows up, it's in the June 31st Overton formation.
There's a huge message.
And this formation is so large, it takes two days to form.
And again, it's just that simple header that streams the whole thing.
And at that time, I just didn't know what to make sense of it.
I could see it was some sort of protocol device, some sort of addressing device, but I figured, well, we'll see what happens in the continuation of the crabwood formation.
Of course.
Well, that didn't happen.
And from the August 10th on, the crop circle season in England came to a screeching halt.
That in itself is unprecedented, just to suddenly stop like that.
Well, what do you imagine?
Do you imagine crop circles have been prevented from being laid down?
Do you think that That there has been some sort of contact between one of our governments and those laying down the crop circles?
What are you imagining happened?
Well, what I'm imagining happened was that there was a sequence building.
Okay.
And if you listen to what Linda at earthfiles.com has to say, and Paul Begay, because now there's At least four documented incidences.
Okay, I know Linda was chased by a helicopter, right?
That's right.
But also during this time, on the 26th of August, Swirled News comes out with date predicted in a crop formation.
September 6th?
26th of August, excuse me.
Oh, 26th of August, okay.
I thought it was... something's pointing to September 6th though, right?
Right, now this is a formation that appeared Back in 1995, the Tichborn Formation.
And it has basically just a chart of our inner solar system.
And when you align it, it comes up perfectly with Mars basically being the time measure on the outer ring.
And, you know, we sat down and we checked it out ourselves.
We vetted his work.
And he's on the money with the times.
And what he's showing on the 6th of September is that there is going to be an object that will be between the orbits of Venus and Earth.
It'll be on the other side of the sun.
And that's what's showing in the formation.
Now what happened on the 28th of August was that we noticed an unidentified winged object in the SOHO LASCO 3 image.
Now, the fact that it's winged is important with SOHO because that means it's too bright to be a star.
Something in the background.
So it's going to be a large object.
How clear is the photograph?
It's on the site absolutely clear.
It's unmistakable.
And I have it circled so the viewers can see it.
And what happened the following day is that what was curious to us is that SOHO imagery the next day, there appears to be In editing.
And the editing appears to be blocking that object that appeared the previous day.
So the winged object now is suddenly gone.
That's right.
Fortunately, you preserved the image and have it.
That's right.
And it's up on the site.
Then on the 29th of August... Where would this object have been?
I mean, SOHO is one of our satellites.
Where would it have been?
This object would, it appears that it's We're in the vicinity of Venus.
It's where this crop circle formation is generally predicting it's going to appear.
All right.
I'm going to just take a giant leap here.
I mean, I'm trying to put all this together in my mind.
Here come crop circles.
Here come what appear to be messages, headers, the beginning of a message, the promise of some words, a comma, you're waiting for the next shoe to drop.
It doesn't.
It disappears.
Various hints.
That would point toward what these messages were trying to say, appear on satellites and then suddenly disappear.
I mean, is this all headed down toward somebody else figured the message out and didn't want the last part of it to get here and so ensured that it didn't?
Is that where we're going here?
Yes.
Who do you think figured it out?
Whoever can afford to fly an Apache attack helicopter.
Well, let's see.
Who would that be?
Hey, listen, I want to ask you something.
How does a CNN science features news producer get from CNN, totally mainstream, albeit interesting science news, to what you're talking about right now?
Well, I'd gotten a DSL connection back in 99 and was just giving it a test spin and decided to go for sites that would be colorful and not well designed, and so I was looking for prophecy sites.
Came across Millennium Group.
And they were talking about Comet Lee at the time.
And this was, as you recall, the the King of Terror.
Sure.
And that was the whole thing.
Everyone was over in Turkey with the that whole the solar eclipse.
And I was going through the NASA video feed and saw three objects.
And the way I saw them was Pretty much the way I'd see them as a producer in TV.
They appeared in what I saw as in the overscan area.
And when you're looking through a camera, of course you have the line inside that says here, inside this line is what you're going to see on the TV at home.
Sure.
The overscan is outside of that.
And a professional shooter, when they see something in the overscan and it really catches their attention, they go to it like a bird dog.
And so what happened was the shooter saw something in the overscan and went to it.
And that's what caught my attention.
So then I did a frame-by-frame analysis, and I found three objects which I labeled A, B, and C. Now, with the help of imagery from the Mir space station that was taken by a French astronaut, we were able to eliminate two of those objects, one being a rocket booster and the other one being a low-Earth satellite, probably a cell site.
Okay.
However, the third one, Object B, was in fact a comet.
It was something that there was no other way to explain it.
It had all the characteristics of a comet, where it had the coma around the head, the horseshoe shaped coma.
And there was, there was nothing in the star charts that matched up with it.
So at that point, there was something that did appear during that solar eclipse.
And from there, it just was I got hooked and started liking this type of science and stayed with it.
And so here you are.
If you were to take a guess at the message that would have been or could have been or might have been, what do you think was coming?
Any clue?
Any guess?
I have no idea.
I believe it would have been a benign message.
It would have been one where the intention was good towards us.
Well, why go to a lot of trouble, no matter who you are, to erase a benign message?
Well, it's something where this particular message, what was curious about it, is that the circumstances of everything happening at the same time.
I mean, you say here, in the final analysis, I believe that we've been denied another important crop circle message, As the early season trends in England were showing a build-up to something significant.
So here you think it's going to be significant, not benign.
Or I guess it could be benign and significant, huh?
Well it was, and I think that the August 9th article that I did with the Crop Circle Key was probably a triggering event in this whole sequence.
And the reason why was that I just put it up on the site a day and a half ago.
And we are declaring it a contact event.
That reoccurring glyph that I told you about earlier, it caught the attention of a fellow by the name of Matt Rock, who is a Canadian crop circle researcher.
And he started analyzing it.
And he found that that recurring glyph that appeared four times, and on the fourth time was the header of a large message, was actually a formation of stars in the constellation Pisces.
And we have published that on the site.
So, the August 9th interpretation that I put up, while I didn't know it at the time, basically I had found that part of the header message that said, this is where the signal is going to be coming from, or where the formation, whoever the sender of the message is.
So then you think the message is coming from... The constellation Pisces.
The constellation Pisces.
The Constellation Pisces.
Marshall, I always ask everybody when I talk to them about crop circles, this question.
It's one of the biggest mysteries, without a question, that the world has, really unsolved.
What do you think crops are?
You think they're messages, but toward what end are we being warned?
Are we... I mean, why toy with us in this manner?
If you're going to say something, why not just lay it out and say it?
Why these sort of subtle things you have to wonder about?
Well... I don't really expect an actual answer to this question.
I just ask everybody, why?
Well, yeah, it's not a great question.
Let's look at the circumstances of contact denied here.
In other words, we have crop circles.
Now, up to this point, up to this season, this has been something that's kind of an oddity.
People think about it or they don't think about it.
They don't think about it seriously.
Right.
The crop circles and ufology have been gaining momentum.
And this time, there's a lot of documented research.
A lot of people out there researching these things, and the phenomena is real.
When you start getting into crop circle technology and you start looking at blown nodes and expanded nodes and how the... Oh, I know.
I'm ever so well aware, as I think most of our audience is, of the technical work that's been done and the fact that, you know, a couple guys with boards and chains haven't done this.
It really is a genuine phenomenon, whether it's of and from this earth or of and by someone beyond it.
It's a genuine phenomenon.
It's not just guys with boards and chains.
It's a serious mystery and there probably is a message there.
The important thing we need to know is whether it's a warning or... I once had someone say that they're markers for time travelers.
I mean, they could be a million different things and we never quite nail it down.
Well, it's whatever you want.
People read a lot into it.
I look at these things from a standpoint of You know, a WYSIWYG kind of outlook.
What you see is what you get.
I'm not interested in trying to relate this to some old mythology.
I'm saying, look, if you're going to send a message across a galaxy, you're going to be talking in things that people can grasp.
You're going to be talking in scientific terms.
You're going to be conveying logical thoughts.
We're not going to be getting into mysticism.
But if somebody sends me a message and the only message is believe, Oh my, what am I to believe?
we'll be right back nothing but a heart and everything
nothing but a heart and a tear all of the way
but if he ever had such a thing he's like me oh why can't I get him?
nothing but a heart and everything nothing but a heart and a tear
all of the way this situation that I just can't win
he's like me oh why can't I get him?
I got a lot of those heartaches I don't know why I don't know why
nothing but a heart and a tear all of the way
can you hear my heartbeat in this country?
do you know that the heart of this country lies in this desire that I have
I'm not going to cry I'm not going to be all I can do
I'm not going to cry I'm not going to be all I can do
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Now, for George Norrie, special guest host, Art Bell.
Here I am.
I find this music very mysterious and reassuring.
My guest is Marshall Masters.
He worked for CNN, but not now.
He's in the crop circles.
And he wrote, despite the fact that he said he didn't really have any thoughts on what it was all about, he wrote the following.
In the final analysis, I believe that we've been denied another important crop circle message, as the early season trends in England were showing a buildup to something significant.
What could that message have been?
Who knows?
But whoever they were, I do not believe they simply wanted to ask us, so how's the weather?
Rather, I think perhaps they may have wanted to explain the why of our intemperate weather.
Which, by the way, claimed over 11,000 heat deaths in France, as well as a lot more.
So in a moment we'll specifically ask about this.
For the last several years I've been absolutely convinced that our weather is undergoing a
profound change.
I don't wonder about it anymore.
I know it is.
And obviously, Marshall, you had some reason to believe that the weather or the changes in it or what's going on right now may have been some part of the message.
Is that correct?
Well, it could be.
You know, when we left out the last time you mentioned the word believe, I want to come right back to that.
Right now on the internet, the big translation of that 2002 Crabwood Formation was, Beware the bearers of false gifts and their broken promises.
Much pain, but still time.
Damaged word.
There is good out there.
We oppose deception.
Conduit closing.
Bell sound.
However, when we did a detailed analysis, and that was more Marie Sosborne did that with his video.
Stepped it through it, and he had the binary code based on the Arecibo message.
Originally been sent by Carl Sagan.
Now, in that original Earth Files translation where it said, damaged word, was the word, believe.
Where it was bell sound, it was a comma.
Disinformation always starts With truth, and then you just change it enough to send people down a rabbit hole.
Well sure, otherwise people don't believe.
That's right.
And in this case, what we have is much pain, but still time, believe there is good out there.
So the key to this message is that they're trying to tell us that, in a sense, have faith.
There's good out there.
You're not alone.
You never have been alone.
You never will be alone.
You know, the only part of that that has ever bothered me is it implies that someone's going to come save our ass from something terrible.
And I don't know if I want or wish to believe that, because if something catastrophic does occur, I think that if we're relying or hoping that somebody will come swooping down out of the sky to save our butts, then we're liable to sit on our butts.
And I've always been concerned about that.
Well, I think it's the same here.
If they're going to help, then if you're going to help us, help us to help ourselves.
You know, we have to be autonomous.
We've got to take care of our own shop.
I think that that is the thing that really frightens government the most when they look at this whole phenomena.
If you have an extraterrestrial race making contact or going through problems, people are going to say, hey, these guys got better technology.
We'll listen to them.
We stop listening to our government.
We stop listening to our government.
Yes.
Chaos.
Yes.
Okay.
Yes.
You say growing public awareness and acceptance of UFO and crop circle phenomena are a threat to governments at large.
The likely concern may have been that a contact event would be socially destabilizing and lead to global panic and strife as citizens place greater credibility in the extraterrestrial messages than those of their own governments.
Yes.
And then you're also going to have the people who just do not handle the news all that well.
Lots of those.
They're going to project their worst fears into it, and they will become dangerous, and they will become destabilizing.
Look what a handful of guys did on, you know, September 11th.
It doesn't take many, you know, people to go off, do something totally insane, and look at the people that they're going to hurt as nothing more than statistics to prove their point.
And so I think governments have, in this case, it's a double-barreled shotgun that they're looking down, you know, that they're looking at.
On one hand, they lose credibility because people start listening elsewhere for, you know, messages.
And on the other hand, they're going to have people that are not going to deal very well with it.
So the chaos and the panic thing is something that rightfully concerns them.
There have been studies, as I'm sure you're well aware, with regard to first contact or how people would react to contact.
Brookings did that, and you know, it didn't come out well.
I mean, it did suggest that people would not handle it well, or enough of them would not handle it well, that there would be resulting panic and, I don't know, raping, pillaging, whatever.
So you think that... I've asked a lot of people about this.
Do you think that is still in place, that psychology?
Well, it's something where you rip the blinders off of people.
The governments still believe that, that it would move them to erase or prevent a message from being laid down that would begin that process they're so afraid of.
Well, let me relate to the kind of mail that I'm getting.
This has been generating a ton of email that's come to me.
And it's been surprising.
Yes, I get the occasional, yes, I'm channeling Lord Zuba from the outer reticular or whatever, and I get a few of those.
I get the ones, I don't ever want to talk to you again.
I get the ones that go absolutely crazy, the ones that quote me Bible, and so forth.
And I just look at it, you know, they're all just denial and negative messages.
But for every one of those I get, I'm getting 11 really great positive messages.
And they range from attaboys to very well-crafted intellectual messages.
I'm getting people from all over the world, from Geneva, Australia, England.
These are articulate, intelligent, educated people who have been looking at this and thinking about it and now they're coming forward and they want to talk about it.
And so is there going to be this huge mass panic when we make contact?
No, I don't think it's going to be another War of the Worlds kind of situation.
I think we're a more sophisticated population.
Maybe.
Maybe.
I think that for a lot of people, there's going to be some confusion.
They'll be numb about it.
But if I look at the small percentages of people that I'm getting these really terrible reactions to the articles that I'm publishing, and if I were, quote unquote, a government, I would be looking at those with concern, because I could see those people becoming problems, not being able to come to grips with this whole new change in their life, seeing their belief systems taken apart.
I think in the mainstream, there are a lot of us that will be a little numb, will wander through it, but I think that we are far more sophisticated now than we give ourselves credit for.
But there still remains a small percentage of the population that is very worrisome.
There are, of those who write of UFOs and extraterrestrials and the things that we don't fully understand now, about 90% write positively.
I mean, they're optimistic.
They think this will all be a good thing.
Then there are a few who aren't as sure.
And to them, this might be a bad thing.
It might be evil.
it might be that whoever they are they will have negative uh...
uh...
what's the right word And...
They'll be exploitive.
Something short of coming down and eating us.
But not good.
Not good.
Well, first off, if anyone lands and they come out and they say, take me to your leader, eat their brains before they eat your brains.
Because what they're saying is, take me to whoever controls you.
I want to control you through them.
But I really wrestled with this philosophically.
And looked at the situation, I said, well, let's just imagine we're a humpback whale swimming along the coastline of California, and there's three ships in the water around us.
One ship has got a bunch of folks with cameras, and they're taking pictures.
And another boat has got a, you know, they've got a gun, you know, they want to shoot a harpoon through it.
It's an obvious whaler, yeah.
Obvious whaler.
And then there's a third ship, and they're trying to put themselves between you and the whaler, and putting themselves at risk.
The Greenpeace guys.
Right.
So, you know, we've evolved.
If you think about the slaughter we conducted on whales at one time, we've come a long way to stewardship and mentorship.
And so I'm projecting that outwards into the races that we would meet and say, you know, there are the, they're the whale hunters.
And then there are the ones that just want to watch.
And they're the ones that want to help protect us from the whale hunters.
And so it's not going to be a clear black and white world out there.
We're going to come into contact with other races.
And so we have to be able to stand on our own two feet and make some pretty hard decisions about who we're going to associate with, who we're going to form a dialogue.
And I think that the number one most important rule we have to take and put this in front of everything that we do is we have to say, do you respect our free will?
In other words, Is.
No.
No.
If we say no, do you respect it?
And if you don't, then we're dealing with an exploitive race.
And we've got a problem.
And we need to deal with it.
Well, maybe in a way, we just said no.
I mean, if some government, British or American or whatever, prevented the laying down of a very important message, then in a way, we just said no to them.
I would come back with this.
The first contact has been by exploiters.
The ones that say, take me to your leader because I want to exploit you through your leadership.
And so, really what's happening is that the parenting or the mentoring race is trying to contact us in a benevolent manner outside of the government because there's already been contact by the exploiters within the government.
That's another way to look at it.
Yeah, it's a possibility.
But I sort of give equal weight to the we're nice guys and look out, they might not be such nice guys.
I see nothing so far to absolutely put me on either side of that.
It seems innocuous on the one side, but then again, something that's really good and going to get you and bite you in the butt at the end would sound that way in the beginning, wouldn't it?
Well, they're not going to lay down messages saying, you die soon, or something like that, right?
They're not going to tip their head.
They're going to come at us easily and try to get followers and believers.
Well, they're going to say that, but you know, when I looked at the message and the Crabwood 2002 message, and the word belief, keep in mind, you go to church on Sunday, and how many times do you hear from the pulpit?
Lots of times.
It's a matter of faith.
And perhaps that's a message that says, you know, human beings don't have a corner on spirituality.
And so they're getting that across, but also maybe it's encouragement, saying, look, you're going through a tough time.
If you look at aboriginals and the Hopis, you know, they talk about the ant people coming back to help us again.
And so there is this deep time history background, especially in the aboriginal history.
Where, after a terrible tribulation for the planet, creatures did come from space and helped us to get back on our feet.
They helped us to help ourselves.
And, actually, in modern day prophecy, from what I'm reading from, like, sites from Vovoka, they're saying the same thing's going to happen again.
That we're going to hit the wall, our civilization's going to collapse, and they're going to come back and help us to help ourselves and get back on our feet.
So we can sit here and project our fears, or we can just simply trust our own instincts to meet them head-on, one-on-one, not that we would provoke, but in essence you listen with your eyes.
You see what they do, not so much as what they say, but you see what they do.
The crop circles that halted in Great Britain, do you believe they just halted or were stopped?
They were stopped.
They were stopped.
They were blocked.
Not just one, but all the ones that would have come.
That's right, because formations continued in other countries around the world.
Indeed, but the most advanced ones have always been in Britain or in that area.
Yes, and I believe it's because England is specifically conducive to the formations of
sophisticated crop circles.
They tend to form over England's, England has a very large aquifer system.
And these are very old farmlands.
And it's just like, you know, if you're a photographer and you have a choice between
Kodak film or something that they're using in China.
You go for the Kodak film.
All right.
So it's the same difference here.
I think England is the Kodak.
It's the Kodak.
So you're pretty much of an optimist then about all of this, really, aren't you?
Yes.
I feel that all together we're going through an evolutionary event.
I think we're moving forward.
Not that evolution is not particularly a messy thing from time to time.
It is.
Birth is a lot of yelling and a lot of screaming.
And it gets messy.
Well, that word covers a lot of territory.
I mean, an awful lot of people I've talked to, like yourself, feel that there's an evolutionary event coming.
Well, most evolution is propelled by disaster, by Catastrophe by things and rocks falling from the sky and dinosaurs disappearing and humans arriving.
You know, most evolutionary leaps are propelled by some gigantic event.
Yes.
And the optimists that I listen to, like yourself, tend to think these, or sort of gloss over these events, saying, well, you know, everything is going to be a wonderful future.
Yes, there's going to be a little rough spot there, but then, you know, We'll get over that.
Well, in that little rough spot, millions or even billions die.
That's right.
Yes, it sounds cold and callous, but the question is, what's better?
That we persevere, evolve, become better, or we just become another layer in the fossil record?
And some other species wind up digging us out of the ground like we're digging up the dinosaurs.
Tomorrow's premium gas.
There you go.
I'm unleaded myself.
So you're going to continue your monitoring of this situation.
There's no way, obviously, to get the messages that were either erased or prevented.
So we're going to have to wonder what would have been said Yes, and also I'm concerned that there won't be another cross-circle season in England next year.
You think it may have stopped or be prevented henceforth?
I think that this year the reaction, from what I'm seeing in the analysis, the reaction was sloppy.
It was ad hoc, it was quick bat and a hatch kind of a thing.
And it may be all over then, huh?
And it may be all over.
I think next season it'll be, they just, it's not going to happen or happen the way we would hope and it's going to be very slickly engineered out.
Marshall, thank you for being here this evening.
Thank you.
Have a good night.
Alright, there you have it.
Somebody who thinks that's it.
Messages are over.
Done with.
Now we're on our own for whatever's coming.
And September 6th will be an interesting day to watch and monitor.
Anyway, I'm Art Bell and we'll be right back.
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Oh baby, don't need me this way.
I can't exist...
Ooh, you can dance, you can fly.
I'll be the star of your life.
Ooh, see that girl, watch that scene, you can set it free.
Friday night and the lights are low.
Looking out for a place to go.
Well, if you hear the right music Getting in between You're going to lose the game Anybody could see that, yeah Premier Radio Networks presents Coast to Coast AM with George Norrie.
And now, filling in for George, here's special guest host, Art Bell.
This hour, we're going to, as I said, toss open the unscreened dimensional portals and see what hops through.
It'll be fun.
Anything goes.
You know the telephone numbers, or you should anyway.
They are a little different when I am here.
Filling in for George, who I hope is having a couple of very restful days off along with the weekend.
It's wonderful to be here.
Quickly in the news before we do jump in, our president will address the nation Sunday night, tomorrow night, about Iraq amid growing U.S.
casualties and criticism about his handling the war against terrorism.
Last time he made such a speech was back on May 1st when he landed on the deck of the USS Abraham Lincoln, you recall that, and declared that major combat operations in Iraq have ended.
Since then, more have died than during the war.
The most powerful hurricane to hit Bermuda in 50 years went slamming into the island chain Friday, winds of about 120 miles an hour.
What you would expect, palm trees going down, power out, that sort of thing.
That island has traditionally been Kind of like an island of steel and resisting hurricanes.
We'll see how they do with this one, I hope well.
The FBI has issued a worldwide alert Friday for four men linked to al-Qaeda, including a suspected terror cell leader and an avowed suicide attacker, after new intelligence indicates they might be plotting attacks against the U.S.
They base this, of course, on increased chatter and that sort of thing, but there's been a lot of that.
All right, so we're going into open lines in a moment here.
Oh, I do want to mention there is a really good new TV show that I bet a lot of you out there have no idea about.
It's on Showtime, and it's called Dead Like Me.
And there's a cute little actress in there who does that named Ellen Moth is her name.
And she's really incredible.
She's sort of a pouty little I think she was an 18-year-old who was walking along one day, and a re-entering Russian toilet seat took her out big time, and then she got turned into a reaper, and she has to go and take the souls of other people who are going to die violently, and it's a pretty cool show, really.
It's, you know, sort of half-series, half-comedy, the kind of thing I like, and you might too.
sort of, uh, well, I don't know, mysterious and reassuring.
By the way, I just received this and I'm hesitant to even read it and I don't know why I'm going
It comes from an anonymous source who beseeches me to delete the email as soon as possible should I decide to read it on the air.
And this may be pure, you know, baloney.
Total crap.
But this person writes, Art, I have it by a very reliable source.
That the accident, in quotes, at Disneyland today is being treated by the Anon police as a crime scene.
Now that just may be his interpretation of it, but he claims to have this from a reliable source, and I have nothing more, totally nothing more, on it than that.
And so I have really... Although you would certainly think they would check out that aspect of it anyway, wouldn't you?
Alright, this is going to be an open lines, unscreened, Unprotected, look out, build in, because who the heck knows what's going to happen on the show, and here we go.
First time caller line, you're on the air with Art Bell at Coast to Coast AM and all that stuff.
Hi.
Hello, man.
I'm here.
You are indeed.
I was wondering... Where are you out of Paris?
Oh, in Detroit.
Detroit.
Ah, Detroit.
All right.
I wanted to ask you about what Father Malachi Martin thought about extraterrestrials.
Oh, that is an interesting question.
What Father Malachi thought...
Um, I think like most religious people, and he was very much so, very religious of course, and I think he thought that they were probably evil.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
Did he say which governments knew about them?
No, although he did say that governments did know about them.
Mm-hmm.
Okay, thanks.
You're very welcome.
Take care.
Yes, Father Martin.
Wonder how he's doing.
Probably got a real good place up there, I'd say, wouldn't you?
And that's, you know, that's one of the reasons, like, for example, in the last hour we were having a discussion about whether these beings, these message givers, may be good guys or bad guys.
I'm not sure.
I'm really, you know, right there on the fence about that.
I have no idea.
They could as easily be one as the other.
Do I think there really is intervention going on in the form of messaging or something?
Certainly all the sightings, oh yes, indeed I do.
But I'm very open-minded about what it all is just yet.
Wild Card Line, you are on the air.
Good morning.
All right, hi.
My name is Lito.
I'm calling from Sacramento.
Yes, sir.
I must say, Art, you are still the true Mac Daddy of talk radio.
We appreciate you so much.
Art, about ten years ago, in 1993, and this was way before the Matrix came out, you're my Morpheus.
You convinced me to take the red pill, my friend.
And when I did, my mind is really open to the things that you expound on your radio program.
Was it a psychedelic red pill?
Well, concerning prophecy, I've always been a church-going Man, my family were churchgoers.
My grandfather was a Pentecostal minister.
Well, the Bible's full of prophecy.
Well, I could only see it from one point of view, though.
But you helped me get into reality.
One of your first guests, the gentleman who wrote the book, I think it was Charity of the Gods?
Oh, yes.
I heard that interview in 1993, and it just woke me up.
I'm saying to myself, these people, there are people out there who see things that are going on.
And it's coming from so many different point of views.
Art, I'm telling you, the veil is coming down quickly.
Oh, I know.
Whether it's Native Americans, whether it's people who just are claimed to be prophets, or people who have visions, and I've talked to the best of them, there is a central core of similarity to all of their messages, and that's what I find most intriguing.
Either they're all listening to each other, which I sort of doubt, or there really is a central message coming through to a lot of people.
What bothers me, Art, is, and maybe you can see this too, and we will definitely find out where our president stands this Sunday, but the American people, not just American people, the people of the world, the cross-circle phenomenon does bother me.
When you see something like that just ending, and a gentleman comes on saying, that is it, it kind of tells you, that's a signal.
The message ended and we didn't get the last graph, you know.
Art, I think the next message is not going to be so much a message, it's just going to be, this is it.
Those who don't want to wake up.
Alright then, let me try it out on you.
This is it.
This is what?
In other words, are we facing something benevolent and good here to help us through some whatever?
Or are we facing somebody who wants our kidneys?
You know something Art?
You know, separating the wheat from the tares?
It's like, you're going to be on one side or the other.
And what side that is, I can't explain what the sides are.
But as humans, we are either going to take that next step Or you're not.
And the ones who don't want to take that next step, see ya.
I don't know how we separate everybody, but it's going to be a separation of those who really want to reach out and involve themselves in creating something better than what we have here, or those who just want the status quo.
And I'm not with the status quo.
I know there's something more.
And I'm going to keep on reaching, and I want to thank you for enabling me to know that there are others doing the same thing.
So keep on doing it, brother, and I hope you're back full time.
I love George, but I'd love to hear you at least two nights a week.
I appreciate the words, sir.
Thank you very much, and take care.
So you'll either be among the saved or the eaten.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hello.
Well, it figures, Mr. Bell.
No, just a little tribute to J.C.
there.
I thought for a second.
All right.
We must say that this show is a mover and shaker, because after last night's show, suddenly the president wants to talk to the nation about the war in Iraq.
What a coincidence, huh?
I don't know if there's any tie in there, but George says there's no coincidences.
Also, sir, I think the biggest experiment we ever did on introducing the nation to the truth about UFOs was the Orson Welles Show.
That show that they did way back that the whole country freaked out.
I'd like to think... I mean, you're really right.
The only real experiment in that area we've had, well, there have been a couple, but the biggest one was certainly Orson Welles.
No question about it.
Now, let's think about that.
How did people react?
They're eating people in New Jersey.
Well, people went berserk, right?
So, yeah, I mean, that's the only real mass psychological Rorschach test we have for what people might do, and it didn't turn out so well, did it?
I'd like to think that we've matured since then, because if 9-1-1 and the blackouts don't tell us that we've matured, I really believe it does, because there was calm.
Even though there was some chaos, basically the nation took it pretty well, and that could have been the beginning of the end right then, either one of those.
And I think that the nation proved right then that we can handle More than we could way back then.
You make a really good point.
If two things would equal, hey, we might now be able to handle it, and maybe Brookings' history and what was thought then as history, it might be 9-11 and the blackouts, and we did handle those extraordinarily well, didn't we?
Yes, we did.
So maybe you're right.
Maybe we are ready, and maybe the fact that we're ready means it's about to happen.
Great, Art.
And, Casey, if you get a chance, call in.
Have a good one.
Yeah, you have a good one, too.
Oh, by the way, do you remember Mel's Hole?
How many of you remember Mel's Hole?
After the whole Mel's Hole thing, somebody in humor, this is in humor, sent me this really funny sound.
I have spent a long time laughing at this sound.
It is, supposedly, the sound of a cat being Without ceremony, tossed into Mel's hole.
And you just, you gotta listen to the sound.
There's this second sound when the cat presumably gets down, you know, five or six thousand yards or something into the well.
And there's this second little pathetic sound.
Listen carefully.
Here we go.
Cat into Mel's well.
There he goes.
Now listen.
People will inevitably send me email.
Oh, that's so cruel!
How could you put that on the air?
Let's throw him in one more time.
It's the second sound that gets me every time.
Anyway, I just happened to find that earlier tonight.
You're on the air, Coast to Coast AM on the West of the Rockies line.
Hi.
Hello.
Yes, sir.
I don't know where to begin, other than... At the beginning, sir.
Pardon?
At the beginning.
Okay.
I live in San Francisco, in the inner city, and it drives me crazy, and to get away from it all, and to meditate, I like to go to the beach at night and look at the stars.
A couple of weeks ago, on a Saturday night, I went.
It was just turning dusk.
And I have a certain method of signaling.
I'm going to make contact somehow tonight.
Wait a minute, you're out there trying to contact extraterrestrials?
Right.
And I have my own unique method.
I am not going to reveal to coast-to-coast land because I don't want your vast audience to be aping my own special way of getting in touch with the space brethren.
Well darn.
Okay, so the first night I used my signaling method.
Overhead came, just as dusk came, a huge circular craft, massive in size, hovered silently above my head for about three minutes and moved land-bound.
I stayed on the beach, kept signalling, nothing.
As darkness fell, a very strange thing.
I'm flashing my light on the shoreline.
I saw... Ah, you just told us.
So it's a flashing light you're using.
God, am I stupid.
Well, you know, that's not new.
I mean, look, there are a number of, really are a number of organizations that try to make contact using a flashing light.
Dr. Greer's organization, for example.
All right, all right, cut out of the bag at any rate.
So I'm flashing my light on the beach.
I see a penguin, an arctic penguin in San Francisco.
I thought it was a shorebird with a broken wing.
I look at it, it's a penguin.
It swims out to the water like a penguin does, and does its penguin thing.
I said, wow.
Okay, so that's two very strange anomalies in one night.
Why would you imagine an arctic penguin would be there?
I talked to friends, they said maybe it escaped from the zoo, or maybe it's earth changes, like that guy wrote about, what was it called, that coming global super storm, you know, that guy with the other guy?
That guy with the other guy, yeah, sure.
At any rate.
So I come home and try to digest because I wasn't sleeping well.
I go down to the beach to get the salt air to relax, you know?
Yes.
So I figure I'll try to get a couple hours sleep, come back the next night.
Next night, okay, beautiful, go down there at dusk, beautiful sunset on the beach.
Start my signaling process.
I hope, by the way, you were using a C-Train LED light.
Yeah, yeah, sure.
I'm going to pay $80 for a flashlight.
At any rate, they have great products.
Alright, so here you are.
So here I am on the beach, okay?
Very busy beach day on a Sunday.
Everybody's there.
I said, well, you know, I've got to get far away from people if I'm going to make contact.
Maybe they'll take me away to a better world.
Who knows?
Because I knew there was something benevolent about a circle.
You know, life is a circle.
Circular shaped craft.
This has got to be good.
So I'm signaling, signaling, signaling.
Five minutes.
There it is, okay?
What?
Where?
What is?
I see the pattern of lights, okay?
Okay.
It's circular.
Yes.
All right?
Now, don't ask me how, but I know I'm in telepathic contact, and ever since this has happened, I've had, like, uh... All right, well, it's very important to understand... Hold it, sir.
What did they tell you, if you were in contact?
What was it?
What did they tell me?
That's right.
Uh, well...
I had to make it down to the beach, way, way far away, about four miles towards Pacifica Deli City, to get far away from people.
So I'm walking, exhausted.
I took a nap, right?
There were three crafts, you know, following me, and I knew I was going to make contact.
In the interest of time, try and answer my question.
What did they tell you?
Okay.
All right.
I'll cut right to the chase.
When I woke up, came back, they were there, fires, signaling, okay?
They were speaking in a language that I didn't know, but I understood.
Alright, quiet.
Which was, come with us, come along with us, be with us.
And I was very, very, very scared.
Why?
I mean, this is what you wanted.
Because I saw, I fully saw their craft.
It was huge, triangular, red, glowing like the sun.
Three, uh... But you went down there for this reason.
You wanted contacts, and now you've got it, now you're scared.
Right, right.
But this was not the ship that I saw the night before.
This was triangular the night before.
It was circular.
You understand?
Okay?
Now, a triangle, that means yield.
A circle is life.
I firmly know and believe this.
We are being visited by multitudes of races.
They are very interested in the goings-on of Earth.
So why didn't you go?
Why didn't I go?
Because I got the impression that these beings were not benevolent at all, that they were malignant, and that they wanted to use me for some kind of, like what Whitley went through, or some kind of Island of Dr. Moreau type of a human experimental animal thing, or God knows what else.
You felt you might have been cut up, mutilated, and otherwise spindled.
Exactly, exactly.
But I know, I know deep in my heart that there is a good There are good, um, benevolent races out there, which I will make, which I will...
Well, the truth of the matter, sir, is when you flash that flashlight, you don't know what's going to come.
No, no.
But I know how to identify them, and I know I have perception and intuition.
So you think that the guys in the triangular craft are not our friends?
Guys and gals.
Guys and gals.
Make that clear, because the final contact was with a woman.
Oh, really?
Yes, really.
A woman?
She was very exotic, shapely, like a bombshell figure.
It was at night, but I could make out her figure.
She was wearing a gown, like a Stevie Nicks kind of robe-ish gown.
She had dark, dark hair, long hair, but I could not see her face and she was flashing a light like it was on the ship.
So you, somehow, have even resisted the Stevie Nicks of extraterrestrials and walked away from it, right?
Alright, I was running along silently on the beach because I knew that I did not want to embark on this Um, and all, all they heard were my keys, my keys dangling.
How do I know you weren't chasing Stevie?
Pardon?
How do I know you weren't chasing Stevie down?
No, it wasn't Stevie that was on my mind.
It was a different woman who, uh, from way back when I've been carrying the torch for, who fits that description.
Well, listen, I'm afraid, I'm afraid this torch has got to go out.
I appreciate the, whatever it was you just gave us.
What do you think?
Was that a real contact story, folks?
I think it's time to get ready To realize just what I have found
I have been only half of what I am It's all clear to me now
My heart is on fire He's got this dream about buying some land
He's gonna give up the booze and the one night stands And then he'll settle down in this quiet little town
And forget about everything But you know he'll always keep moving
No he's never gonna stop movin' Cause he's rollin' He's the Rolling Stone When you wake up it's a new mornin' The sun is shinin' it's a new mornin' You're goin', you're goin' home From coast to coast and worldwide on the internet, this is Coast to Coast AM with George Norrie.
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I begin to sense the possibility of a contact night.
Is that what it's gonna be about, is contact?
If so...
Then let it be.
Good morning, everybody.
Open lines.
Anything you want to talk about's fair game.
A recently seen bumper sticker, eagles may soar, but weasels don't get sucked into jet
engines.
On our international line, you're on the air.
Hello.
Hello, Art.
It's Jeff from the OK.
I was just going to point out that in 1995, There's a Tichborne formation which showed a planetary alignment.
Now, because these things are pretty predictable to dates wise, it's interesting that this alignment actually pointed to a specific date of September the 6th, 2003.
That's right.
So you're obviously, not only are you up on all this, but you are there in Great Britain.
So I've got a couple of questions for you here.
Why do you think that all of a sudden these messages have either stopped or been Stopped.
Well, I mean, I do recall, I mean, there was a time I visited Silky Hill and I was just looking around the fields and I could see that there was one field with a little square that had been ploughed out.
Pretty obvious what happened there.
And I suppose some of the farmers are doing it for innocent reasons, but there isn't enough in that area to say that if they stop altogether, Um, if you're talking about any human hoaxed ones, well then, they wouldn't all stop at one go, would they?
Well, since all the messages appear there in Great Britain, maybe the message is about Great Britain.
Has that occurred to you?
Hmm, well, I mean, I have heard the counterclaim.
They say that, uh, because like, uh, Lyndon Moth-Motham was, um, was, uh, an Apache helicopter or something in the air.
They're saying that the patrolling air, well, I haven't seen anything around there, but then I'm in a slightly different part of the UK.
So maybe whatever it is that's going to happen is going to happen in the UK.
That's what I'm pointing out.
Certainly we've got the history and we've got the geography to make it an interesting place to start.
Alright, well listen, thank you very much for the call, all the way from across the ocean there.
And it is certainly odd that they've all either stopped or been stopped.
Either way, there's got to be a pretty good-sized message there.
A big curiosity, I would say.
Maybe you just want to comment on why you think they've either stopped or been stopped.
First time caller on the line, you're on the air.
Good morning.
Good morning, Mark.
This is Steve from Portland, Oregon.
Hello, Steve.
Long time.
Yes, sir.
How are you doing?
Long time listener.
And I'm just kind of curious, a little bit different subject here.
I'm just kind of curious as to what you've been doing with your retirement.
I'm sure the world is curious to what you've been up to.
Well, I gave a few clues about that last night.
I mean, I stay radio-oriented, you know.
Ramona and myself have a radio station here in Toronto, Nevada.
That requires no minor amount of attention.
I have ham radio, and I have radio, radio, radio.
So, you know, that and basket weaving.
I like the baskets, too.
You don't have a website anymore, though?
I have no desire to see it wiped out, destroyed, and otherwise mauled.
in for a while but you've got to understand that I have no desire to see
it wiped out destroyed and otherwise mauled so rather than give it out on the air
I'm I will not gonna I'm probably fine eating up this
anyways okay well we all miss you and we hope that you come back and visit us
as often as you can Thank you.
You're very welcome.
Take care.
You know, there are some websites that I have an interest in or whatever, but you have to understand that we have killed on this program.
I mean, the number of notches in Coast to Coast, we've killed websites.
I'm from Texas, and it's nice to hear your voice again.
I get out you're on the air coast goes a.m.. On the wild-card line hello
Hi I'm from Texas and
It's nice to hear your voice Again, why thank you, and I just want to make some comments
about Tonight's guest caller. I mean the guy he hadn't
interviewed earlier. Oh, yes, sure and I Think that I would probably fall in line with one of those
individuals who'd probably you know be found in the fossil record
unfortunately.
In other words, you don't think you're going to make it through the change, right?
Whatever it is.
Like I said, it all depends on where I'm at on planet Earth or whatever.
I'm coming from the other side of the fence, from the metaphysical New Age over to the Christian bent, except with a retro twist.
You're a Christian with a retro twist?
Well, I'd look at the UFO enigma phenomenon and all that with a little bit of a different point of view than the other JC's.
What is your point of view?
Well, I believe that it's a real phenomenon.
They exist and there are beings that exist out there, but I wouldn't just go I would tend to believe that they also have the capability of manipulating human beings on various different levels.
Well, technologically advanced and otherwise.
Any more than you'd open all email attachments, right?
I mean, you think before you click.
I would tend to believe that they also have the capability of manipulating human beings
on various different levels.
I could go for that.
I hear from a lot of them on these lines.
It must be difficult to be kind of stuck in a certain crooked place where we either have to make a decision or we don't and what do we face if we don't make a decision and all that.
It all depends on who's really looking at the whole... Well, you know, there's a little bit of information to indicate that our military actually shoots at UFOs now.
You've got to think about that, really.
How good an idea is it to lighten one off toward one of them?
There's no telling what the end result could be about that.
Recently, though, the last guy that called, or actually the guy that called three back, he was talking about his contact experience and everything.
If what he was saying was true or not, but it sounded, what he was saying, it sounded like he had great conviction in his voice.
Oh, you bet.
And, uh, you know, uh, I recently saw, uh, I guess you could call it a sighting or whatever.
And, um, to me, it made me feel like, like something, you know, major is really, it's like everybody else is saying on the horizon line.
Well, alright, I'm with you all the way.
Once you've seen something, then there are only so many possibilities.
I mean, once you have seen, I saw a triangular craft, as everybody well knows, with my wife, and once you've seen something, then there are only so many possibilities.
And what I saw wasn't fuzzy, distorted, or otherwise.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hello.
Good morning, Mr. Bale.
thing you know that kind of right there really close encounters of these some
number or another of a kind and you know once you've been down that road you do
cross a threshold there are then only so many possibilities and one of the really
strong ones is that we are being observed being worked being something by
somebody east of the Rockies you're on the air hello good morning mr. bill good
morning hey yeah Well, first of all, I would like to say I'm listening to you on AM 1340 WGAU.
All right.
Excellent.
Okay.
A year ago, I, too, reported a spacecraft right over Athens, Georgia, where I live.
I knew this was going to be contact night.
All right.
Yes.
After it swooped down over College Square, just right in the heart of town, It zoomed off just as fast as I looked up at it.
It didn't have any lights.
I guess those aliens had their lights off so they wouldn't be seen.
Well, whatever it was you saw, is there any doubt in your mind at all that this was a craft from elsewhere?
It appeared to be so with me.
It had a very high shine.
Even 50 feet up in the air, I could see myself in the reflection.
And that's a very high shine.
And I did see myself in the reflection, even though it did zoom off very quickly.
I'm just wondering why I didn't have any lights.
Probably dead and they weren't on.
So I thought I'd let you know.
Well, that's a very close contact indeed.
I appreciate the call and the report.
You know, it would be so easy to scoff at this kind of thing until you've had the experience yourself.
And I have.
And once you have, you're changed forever and you can't scoff at people.
You've got to imagine some of these reports may be made up, but not most of them.
Close to the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hello.
This is Olin in Culver City, California.
Hey, Olin.
Hi there.
Last week, George Norrie had an update interview with Robert Felix, the author of the book, Not By Fire, But By Ice.
Ah, yes.
He said that the Tootaloo Islands are nine feet above sea level, and they started measuring seawater level and found out that the water level has gone down two and a quarter inches in the last few years.
I don't think I'd want to live on an island named Toodaloo.
I mean it just sounds like bye-bye.
Well, it is an odd name.
Toodaloo.
We've been having heavy rain and heavy snow and I think that the seawater level is going down because the global warming is evaporating the water into clouds which are raining down in torrents and flooding land areas that have never been flooded before.
Now, Robert Felix said that in the wintertime, the snow will fall to nine feet deep and cover houses, and when people open their garage door in the Northeast, there'll be a wall of snow there.
You know, nothing would surprise me.
Based on the weather the world has experienced in the last year or so, nothing coming up this winter would surprise me.
I really mean that, nothing, including some sort of disaster in Europe.
Well, they had terrific floods in Europe this last summer, or in the last half a year, and it's probably the excessive rain and floods is obviously coming from ocean evaporation, and so the ocean levels are going down instead of up.
Well, that may be.
I'll tell you this though, there's no way that anybody can deny Other than you've got your head in the sand and you are in complete denial that we're undergoing a profound change in the weather right now.
Worldwide, a really profound change.
So, nothing is going to surprise me.
Nothing.
I would say the winter could hold a lot of surprises for the world.
First time caller line, you're on the air, good morning.
Good morning.
Hi, where are you?
I am in, my name is Linda and I'm in Springfield, Oregon.
Hey Linda.
I'm glad to hear you again.
Thank you.
Missed you, bro.
I've been missing the heck out of you.
Thank you.
My blood is doing a slow boil right at the moment.
Our wonderful radio station here that carries the program decided to preempt one hour of it.
No!
No!
And for what?
High school football.
Oh my God!
These things happen.
Yeah, well, There seems to be a real overdose of testosterone in this area.
Well, let me tell you something.
Be careful here now.
I'm a football fan and life has just begun.
Anyway, I would like very much to, with all my heart, request you to come back on this program full time.
Well, thank you.
That's a nice wish.
Art.
However, you must remember That I left because of my back, and so to do a full five nights a week would not be a healthy thing for me.
Well, how about three nights a week?
Anyway, I appreciate it.
Anything else tonight?
Have you been contacted, visited, probed, or otherwise met with aliens?
Well, I work for a municipality here, and that's the same as working for aliens.
Would you, if you would ask Mr. Nouri, or when you talk to him, that if he could keep the program more on point, more on topic?
Well, alright.
You're not going to cut back?
Okay, that's a little bit of a misnomer.
Let me explain to you on the radio about that, alright?
The people who actually listen to this program already know what I'm going to say, and there are a lot of casual listeners, and perhaps I'm here just because I happen to be here tonight.
Alright.
In the larger media, you know, whether it's CNN or whether it's whoever's commenting on this program, you know, the program has been stamped as nothing but about UFOs and extraterrestrials and spacey things and all the rest of it.
But this program is not just that, nor has it ever been just that.
This program has taken forays into all kinds of strange areas.
Anything that's interesting, not just aliens, though they're very interesting, but anything.
And so when something interesting in the medical world comes along, when something interesting in the terrorism world comes along, or something that, you know, really affects us all, then this program does shows on it.
And that's always been the case.
People have always sort of stamped this as just one thing, but it's not just one thing.
The program will go all over the place.
That's just the nature of it.
I wouldn't have it any other way.
Any other way would be boring.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hi.
Hi.
Turn your radio off, please.
Yes, sir.
That is something you must do right away.
Okay, what is your first name and where are you calling from?
Jeff, calling from Midland, Texas.
Hey, Jeff.
Listening to Young 550 KCRS.
Right.
Okay, I had a quick comment for you and then two questions.
Mm-hmm.
First comment is I just wanted to thank you.
It's great to hear your voice again.
Thank you.
The second thing is, I think you made a great choice in George Norrie.
Thank you.
He's a great guy.
Okay, first, this goes back a couple years, but you were on the show Millennium.
Yes, I was.
Okay, I had a question about that.
I'm still getting residual payments from that.
Oh, thousands of dollars.
No, you want to know the truth?
You get these little, like, $1.50 checks.
How funny.
The truth!
It's the truth!
I believe you.
And they're still showing that thing somewhere.
Right.
I just wanted you to maybe comment about that experience, beyond the residual checks.
The experience of it, number one.
And my second question, I'll listen off the air, is there a real Millennium Group?
Beyond the Millennium Group website, but a true group like that?
That's my question.
You don't think I could answer that and live, do you?
I appreciate your call.
All right, well, the experience of being on Millennium.
God, I hate television.
I like watching it, but I don't like being on it.
And I've always had a kind of a prejudice against television.
I don't know why.
Yes, I do.
Because it's all rehearsed.
It has to be.
There are so many takes to get something done.
Everything has to be just right.
And then, of course, you have to remember your lines, too.
And then when you're, you know, you're somebody like me, right, who is spontaneous and doesn't memorize lines, I just come in here and say whatever the hell I want to say, you know, you have trouble remembering lines.
And you're nervous anyway, and that contributes to your forgetting lines and cues and all that stuff.
So my experience in making Millennium was cool and fun, but God, I hate television.
I really do hate television.
This is the medium.
We're talking the medium right here.
Radio is the real medium.
Television is great to watch and terrible to try to be on.
West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hello.
Holy smokes.
I'm on the air.
Yeah, that's how I do it.
I mean, just cold turkey.
Mr. Arbel, gosh, this is a great pleasure to be on the air with you again.
I had an opportunity about Seven, eight years ago to be on the air and I totally blew it.
All I could say was just repeat the same thing over and over.
Okay, okay.
Well, better stop repeating that and start in what you want to say because we don't have a lot of time coming to the top of the hour.
Okay, I'll lay it on me.
Okay.
First of all, I have never had an experience with UFOs or been able to see them.
Although I do have, I wish to see a UFO and The thing is that I do dream with them a lot, and they're so realistic that I wake up kind of nervous and excited at the same time.
Well, there's lots of people who think that in your sleep and when you dream would be an ideal time to affect your mind from afar.
You are the most susceptible when you sleep.
Correct.
Well, there's this dream that I wanted to share with you.
It's going to have to be real fast.
Yes, okay.
The thing is that, I'll cut it short, I was at the edge of this cliff that was nothing but sand, and it was late, late at night.
It was nothing but stars out, and I could see a bunch of lights coming over the top of the sky.
It looked like falling stars, but when I started noticing, it just got completely filled up with nothing but UFOs.
And at the middle of all the UFOs, I could see a counter, like you would see a speedometer.
And the numbers were just going and going and going and going and going, and then finally they stopped.
And they stopped for about five seconds, and I saw 2003.
And then the numbers stopped there, and then when they stopped there, then they continued to go again, and they didn't stop again.
Well, maybe, maybe, maybe, sir, I gotta go.
But that, that may have been a prophetic dream.
Can you imagine?
Looking out and seeing as far as the eye can see, nothing but millions of UFOs, the entire Earth, being invaded.
The entire Earth.
That many of them.
Wouldn't be time to do anything, would there?
We'll be right back!
Probably.
I'm going to go to bed.
Good night.
Tell you about Phaedra And how she gave me life
And how she made it in Some velvet mornin' when I was dreamin'
Flowers growin' on a hill Dragonflies and daffodils
Learn from us very much Look at us, but do not touch.
Fedra is my name.
From coast to coast and worldwide on the internet, this is Coast to Coast AM with Our last host is Art Bell.
To talk with Art, call the wildcard line at area code 775-727-1295.
The first time caller line is area code 775-727-1222.
The first time caller line is area code 775-727-1222.
East of the Rockies call 800-825-5033 and west of the Rockies call 800-618-8255.
International callers may reach Art by calling the AT&T International Operator and dialing toll-free 800-893-0903.
Now, for George Norrie, special guest host, Art Bell.
If you've had contact, it would be very interesting to hear from you.
Indeed.
Perhaps we should do that, and so that by the next break, we're into contact ease.
That's a pretty good idea.
If any of you out there have had serious contact, then yes, um, call any line.
Contact night.
I kind of like that.
Be right back.
that velvet night.
On the international line, you're on the air.
Hello.
Hi Art, this is Matt in Moscow.
In Moscow?
Moscow, Russia.
Moscow, Russia.
What are you doing in Moscow?
Well, you know, we live here.
We've been here almost two years.
And I listen to you on the computer.
Ha, ha, ha.
Be darned.
And you come in nice and clear, because the radio reception isn't very good here, you know.
Yes, I'm aware of that.
And what you do get might not be... Anyway, so you listen to us on the computer, and you're all the way over in Moscow, and so what's up?
Well, first of all, I want to say I'm calling and saying hello from Fantastic Forum to you, of course.
Ah, the pirates, yes.
Which are great friends of ours.
And I wanted to say that I have seen something here that was pretty strange last spring.
Oh?
And I checked the Davenport website, you know, for sightings, and there's very little that comes out of Russia.
You bet.
I know.
Yeah, but this one was rather strange.
It looked like a contrail.
And, uh, it was last spring and we saw it, uh, in the north of, uh, you know, facing north.
And I don't know really what to make of it, so I never reported it or anything like that.
Well, okay, then, uh, what is it, um, you say it was like a contrail, um, what gives you the idea it was not a contrail?
Well, you know how you see, uh, you see planes off in the distance and you can see their contrail?
Yes.
was like a contrail but I couldn't see any visible plane or such thing.
And it traveled rather slowly. It went behind the apartment building
so I didn't see it any longer and I didn't see it come out the other side or anything like that.
But, you know, things like that happen.
You never know what it is.
Well, maybe it was one of ours.
Maybe it was a spy plane.
I mean, we fly those things so high that potentially there could be a contrail produced under the right conditions, but you wouldn't, you know, it's too far away to see the actual crap producing it.
Yeah, but you've got to remember, I'm in Russia.
There isn't very much that comes over here that isn't detected, and it's certainly not allowed.
Well, when I said one of ours, I didn't mean one of yours.
Oh, okay.
You mean people.
Yeah, I meant it could have been something from our country over here.
Yeah.
Even though we're supposedly friends now, we still keep a pretty sharp eye on Moscow.
Yeah, and they pretty well know what we're doing, and if we're over here, they pretty well know it.
But the other sighting I had was back in 1956 in western Massachusetts, and that was one of those cigar-shaped Uh, objects in the sky.
I lived near Westover Air Force Base in Springfield, Mass.
Yes.
And, uh, that one was one, you know, I was like 12 years old or so.
And so, uh, I had no idea what I was looking at, but it certainly wasn't the usual.
And that's probably where I started getting interesting in what, what things are in the sky that... How could you not?
You know, how can you not?
I mean, once you have seen, or even twice you have seen something of that sort.
If you're not interested, then your heart's not beating.
Oh, yeah.
Well, it's been beating.
I'm always looking and, you know, I would like to make contact.
And since that's your topic tonight, you know, I think a lot of us would like to make contact.
Well, you're right about that.
Thank you very much for the call and the shout out to the Fantastic Forum folks.
I guess it is about contact.
You know, when you just throw the lines open and you really don't know what you're going to get, you do tend to get a pattern.
And so far tonight, obviously, that's the pattern.
Sightings.
Contacts.
First time caller on the line, you're on the air.
Hi.
How you doing?
I'm doing, sir.
OK, well, I'm here in Las Vegas, and I was just curious if you knew anything about the brown military, like Blackhawk-style helicopters that make a pattern of coming in from the northwest and going towards Nellis.
Uh-huh.
Oh, we see them all the time here, sir.
And I mean all the time.
As you know, I'm just 65 miles to the west of Las Vegas, and in the middle of the day, any time of day, you'll hear this thump, thump, thump, thump, thump, thump.
Yes, exactly.
A deep thump that'll rattle the house.
You go out, and phew, here they go.
Yeah, there's usually about four to six of them.
Yeah, but do I know what they're doing?
No.
Hmm.
I don't.
I was curious, because I know I've seen them out towards the Rachel area, too.
That's why I was wondering if you knew, is that their new mode of transport?
Rachel, of course, being near the infamous Area 51, which is close to here anyway.
So we see all this kind of stuff.
It's out here, but I have no idea what they're doing.
All right.
Well, thank you very much.
It's great to hear your voice again.
You're very welcome.
Thank you.
Sure, they're all over the desert out here.
You see them all the time.
The identifiable and the not-so-easily-identifiable.
Uh, wildcard line, you're on the air.
Hello.
Hello?
It is, though only you can be certain, yes.
Yeah.
Well, I want to put a plug in for your CC radio.
I'm listening to you from a station 400 miles away.
That's right.
Yeah.
The CC radio can do that.
It really can.
Oh, it's fantastic.
My question that I asked you before was, with the Hubble telescope, It's to be said that the Big Bang is around 14 to 15 billion light years away?
That's correct, yes.
Okay.
My question is, it takes that long, 14 or 15 billion years for that light to come back to us, and with the expansion of the universe, I don't know how fast the universe is expanding, So, with that equation, actually, how far out would it be now, or how could we find out?
Well, it would be that 15 billion years out.
Let's take that figure just as an arbitrary figure.
It's pretty close.
Okay.
The light that remains, whatever it is, and, you know, they're able to look out at, for example, pulsars, which create a very bright light, and there are quite a few of them early on in the creation of the universe.
They're out in the order of 15 billion years, and they've seen those.
Right.
That would be the measure of time.
The measure of time it takes light to get here.
So I guess that's how they know.
Fifteen billion.
Oh, so the expansion of the universe has nothing to do with how far out anything is.
Well, we even argue about that, whether the universe is expanding or contracting.
Oh yeah, that's right.
I've heard you say that many times.
There's some blue shift, some red shift.
I guess the majority opinion would seem to be that it is expanding.
And the latest theory is it's expanding without end.
That it will continue to expand to the point where, here on Earth, we won't see the stars anymore.
Because they'll be too far away from us.
Yeah, we won't have our own galaxy.
That's right.
It's going to get mighty lonely here.
So that is the current thinking.
Can you imagine that?
That eventually everything will move so fast and so far away from every other object that there'll be nothing left to see.
Except perhaps the immediate planets adjacent to us, and even they will drift.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hello.
Hello.
Hi.
Yeah, if I didn't know I was on, I didn't hear the click.
I have a newer clickless thing.
So, you don't know, you just have to remember what line you're on.
Anyway, where are you?
I'm over here at Fayetteville, North Carolina.
Alright.
But, you know, I haven't seen any flying saucers, but I do have a circle story.
A circle story?
Yes.
It's a very interesting one.
I was in Abilene, Texas at the time.
I was helping sign up a church in a YWCA.
Mm-hmm.
And as I was setting up the chairs, I felt something said, Stop.
I didn't hear a voice or anything else.
I just felt an impression say, Stop.
Uh-huh.
Get yourself a piece of paper and a pen.
Uh-huh.
Draw two circles, one above the other.
Draw a line connecting the two.
Really?
Now, It's where it gets interesting.
Well, it's already interesting.
It sounds like crop circle formations, but go ahead.
Put the word God in the top circle.
Put the word you in the bottom.
Okay.
Now draw lines and circles, you know, lines and little circles around you.
And I did about six of them.
And the impression was, put the word money in one, another one, car, another one, your boss, another one, your job, another one, you know, you know, the things that, you know, that are very much concerning your life.
Yeah.
And then the impression said, doesn't that feel like All those problems are pulling you apart.
And I have to say, yes.
So this was like a disembodied motivational speech, huh?
Well, I believe sometimes the Holy Spirit does that.
I believe that there's... Do you think the fact that you were in church and perhaps had that expectation in your mind might have caused you to have this?
Well, I wasn't expecting that.
Well, I mean, yeah, but you would have been in this certain frame of mind if you're in a church, right?
So, you think that could have had an effect on why you had that experience?
That's possibly.
Also, I have the belief that sometimes God does those things.
By himself, in order to contact and give us, you know, certain truths.
I wonder if God does do those things.
I appreciate the call.
You ever wonder about that?
What does God do?
What does he pay attention to?
Is he a big-picture guy only?
Does he sit at his godly desk and just, you know, I don't know, do administrative top-level stuff?
Or does he really mix it up down here from time to time and get involved?
Directly!
Like that!
Like, hey, you, sit, draw.
I don't know.
I've always wondered about that.
He's got a detail guy.
West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hi.
Hi, Art.
Hello.
Yes, this is Mary KVI Seattle, and I just wanted to respond to one of the comments that Mr. Green made last night regarding 9-11.
He said that in the suicide note of the terrorists, they indicated they had a hang-up about the
way Western women dressed.
Oh, yes, that's correct.
Yes.
Well, I think it should be important for people to know that in the early part of this century,
there was a directive sent out by what I would call a secret organization indicating that
if we wanted to ruin the family in this country.
We had to attack women's modesty because that's the barrier for morality, the way women treat... In other words, a country is... How do I say this?
It's important for a country for the women to be womanly and the men to be manly.
Well, what does that mean for the women?
Should they suddenly start covering up?
Is that what you're basically saying?
Well, they shouldn't go around like prostitutes.
For example, when the miniskirt came into Now, wait a minute here.
You're really treading on sensitive territory here.
I happen to like the miniskirt.
I'm still a fan of the miniskirt.
Okay, that's your opinion.
Well, it is indeed.
But you're saying that women will lead us down the path to evil and doom and destruction is what you're saying, basically.
I think that they're not aware of the effect that they have on men and that their fathers should tell them.
Oh, I don't know about that.
I think women are generally aware of the effect they have on men.
Well, in a general way, but not specifically.
So, I think that if men want their daughters to be safe, they ought to tell them how to protect themselves.
So that they shouldn't expose themselves so much.
So women should cover up?
A little bit more.
Boy, I don't know.
I don't know.
I've got it. All right, so women should cover up?
A little bit more.
Boy, I don't know.
I don't know. You know, I've seen the way they dress over there,
and I've seen the way they dress here.
And that alone might be worth fighting a war over.
Well, anyway.
Listen, I appreciate your call and your concern, but I've got to go.
So thank you very much.
I guess I have nothing more to say about that.
First time caller on the line, you're on the air.
Hello.
Oh, is this Art Bell?
Yes, it is.
It's good to hear you again, Art.
Well, thank you.
Uh, you had a guest on named, uh, Red Elk?
I sure did, yes.
Yes, and, uh, he was talking about the depths of the earth.
Oh, yes.
Yes.
And, uh... An entire civilization beneath the crust of the earth, yes.
Way down.
Yes, sir, and, uh... Lizard people.
Yes.
There's a whole race of people in our universe.
And it says it in the Bible.
It says the dead are in deep anguish beneath the waters.
Yep, and the earthquakes, the volcanoes, that's hell enlarged in itself.
And it's going to show itself soon.
You know, a better way to say that is it's hell spilling over.
Yep, yep.
Right?
Yep.
So, you think they're really down there?
Yeah, they are.
The lizard folk and all the rest of them?
Yeah.
It could be.
We've never gone down to the center of the globe, have we?
I, uh, there was a movie recently called The Core, which I haven't seen yet.
And, uh, I've always been fascinated by the inner earth.
We explore the depths of outer space, but what do we know about what's beneath our feet?
So very little.
Wildcard line, you're on the air.
Hello.
Uh, if I push the button, you're on the air.
Hi.
Wildcard line, now you're on the air.
Hello.
Hello.
Art?
Yes.
How you doing?
I'm all right, sir.
Where are you?
I mean, turn my radio off.
Okay, where are you?
Ohio?
Ohio, yes sir.
On your crop circle thing?
Yes.
I believe the message is belief, and it's tied in with the comet.
The message is what, please?
Belief.
Belief, okay.
And it's tied in with the comet, as your guest indicated.
But believe is such, I mean it's a very powerful word, but believe what?
Yes it is.
And you got the key there, it's a very powerful word.
Fine, but believe what?
Believe in the energy that was sent by the comet.
It increased the energy of the creativity of a human being.
Okay, when it came.
Well, there are many.
The Hopi, and obviously you, and many others who give comets a great deal of credence.
The Hopi, of course, believe that comets are the harbinger of very large change.
That they will announce change, and then they will bring change.
And, in fact, science would pretty much back that up with regard to comets.
Comets certainly have brought change.
In fact, others would even argue that comets have brought life.
That the ice particles, or rather what's contained within the ice particles, is what distributes life, kind of like a cosmic Johnny Appleseed.
That comets go blazing through empty space, occasionally Coming upon a planet suitable for life, and that as they re-enter that planet, that planet's atmosphere, they distribute the seeds of life.
So there are many, many people who attach a great deal of significance to comets.
Perhaps not without reason, either.
All right, well we're talking about some pretty interesting things.
Sounds like contact night.
Anyway, you're welcome to join us.
You know the numbers.
I'm Art Bell, in for George Norrie on this early Saturday morning.
Mississippi, in the middle of a dry spell.
Denny Rodgers, on the lictro up high.
Mama's dancing, baby on her shoulder The sun is setting like molasses in the sky
The lights are out, I had a moment Everything, always wanting more
I'd sell you what I had and everything Always wanting more, it ain't long before
It ain't long before Black velvet and I leave a boy's smile
Black bell on the night, little boy smile Black bell on the night
Black velvet and I...
We're out!
Where are those happy days, they seem so hard to find I tried to reach for you but you have lost your mind
Whatever happened to our love, I wish I understood It used to be so nice, it used to be so good
So when you near me darling, can't you hear me SOS The love you gave me, nothing else can save me SOS
When you're gone, how can I even try to go on When you're gone, though I try, how can I carry on
From coast to coast and worldwide on the internet This is Coast to Coast AM with George Norrie
From coast to coast and worldwide on the internet, this is Coast to Coast AM with George Norrie.
Filling in for George, tonight's special guest host is Art Bell.
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Now for George Norrie, special guest host, Art Bell.
Those are the portals.
I am merely the messenger.
How you doing?
I'm Art Bell, and from the high desert, this is Coast to Coast AM, raging throughout the nighttime, open lines,
anything goes, be right back.
Believe it or not, I'm Art Bell.
Isn't that such an interesting word all by itself?
You're not told what to believe, or it's not expressed to you what you should be believing in, then you're going to attach that to probably what you believed anyway, aren't you?
Ease to the Rockies?
You're on the air.
Hello.
Good morning, Mr. Bell.
How are you?
Pretty well, thank you.
Good.
Glad to hear your voice.
This is Gary from St.
Louis.
Hey, Gary.
Hi.
You wanted serious contact?
Well, I'm going to give it to you.
I have had multiple encounters since the age of five years old.
I will not get into all of the encounters.
It would take too much time.
So, but you're a contactee, a real contactee.
Yes, I am.
You began when you were five.
Well, that is pretty typical.
Contactees frequently have it all their life.
That's correct.
Back in 1969, shortly before the Apollo 11 moon launch, I was on a one-night camp out in a field Behind my Scoutmaster's house.
And it was a one-night outing to prepare us for longer outings during the course of the summer.
I was approximately 15 years old.
Sure.
And my buddy and I were in a... We had 22 scouts attending, and it was approximately 2 o'clock in the morning.
And my buddy and I were lying in a two-man tent telling dirty cow jokes.
I remember that vividly.
And an object approached out of the east, headed due west.
At first we thought it was a small aircraft because of the fact that we had a small private airport five miles due west of us.
But it seemed unusual that a small airplane would be landing that time of evening.
Usually most of the smaller aircraft would land during the day.
The object then all of a sudden approached us rapidly and it got within 50 feet of us.
It was hovering silently.
It had lights rotating around its outer rim, rotating rapidly in opposing directions.
How big was this?
Approximately the size of a football field.
That's really big.
Alright.
Yeah.
The lights were rotating the outer perimeter of the craft in opposing directions.
Reds, greens, yellows, and blues.
Had a wobbly effect, and also we noticed that prior to the appearance of the craft, it was a beautiful summer night, the stars were out, we had a slight breeze, the crickets were doing their thing.
But when the craft approached, everything went silent.
I mean, totally silent.
My buddy was freaking out.
I wanted to scream to get the other scouts awake to come out to be witnesses to what we were viewing, but for some reason I couldn't do it.
I mean, I literally tried to scream to get them up, but I could not do it.
Now, for some reason I wasn't as scared as my buddy.
Just for the heck of it, I played games with this thing.
I just basically looked up at it and said, if you can hear us, we're going to move so many feet in this direction.
And when we get there, I want you to come over to us.
And I'm thinking, I'm just blowing wind.
Well, we started walking in a particular direction.
The craft just remained there wobbling and hovering.
And then finally, when we got to a specific point, the object came over to us.
I mean, so fast.
I mean, you couldn't even, you didn't even have time to blink your eye.
It was there that quick, and then, that's when I freaked out.
Well, it finally, uh, bypassed over our heads far enough and sat down in the field.
The outer perimeter lights went off, and then I noticed, on the lower carriage of the object, um, a rippling effect.
A wavy, rippling effect, like some of the The metallic structure of the object was turning to liquid.
Where did this happen?
This happened in Gaithersburg, Maryland.
Okay.
I noticed a wobbly, wavy ripple effect like water and all of a sudden an elongated opening appeared in the lower section of the craft and a very bright white intense light came out of it and then a larger opening then appeared And then a very small ramp elongated out of the craft to the ground.
Immediately, and from my 30 years of research since that encounter, I can honestly say that the occupant that departed the craft was a typical gray, very short, large head, dark eyes, approached us and stopped within 10 feet of us.
And then I also noticed two other Humanoid forms in each side of the doorway peering out, and they appeared to be wearing jumpsuits.
They had long hair.
I couldn't distinguish the color.
It was pretty dark, even though they were in the white, very bright white light.
But anyway, the occupant of the craft basically immediately gave me, I imagine telepathically, because I didn't see its mouth move, and its mouth was No more than a split gave me an equation.
And then immediately, I would say within 30 seconds, panicked and turned and literally ran back into the craft.
And according to the people that are investigating my cases currently, The wobbly effect was considered the only way physics can describe that effect.
You've got legitimate investigators on your case.
Who?
I have a Mr. Jim Cross who was originally associated with MUFON and now is doing independent research.
I had held on to that equation for more than 30 years and was I finally wrote a letter to the J. Allen Hynek Center for UFO Studies and received a letter back from a Frank John Reed who wrote me a letter.
You included the equation?
Yes, I did.
And he basically, in short, wrote, I must honestly say that items of information like your equation usually do not prove out This would not disprove the reality of the experience.
How could we know that such an item was not a deliberate red herring of the aliens?
Now, he suggested that I contact a Mr. John Carpenter out of Springfield, Missouri.
Right.
Mr. Carpenter contacted me by phone and his opinion was, well, let's forget about the red herring.
Let's consider that possibly the extraterrestrial gave you the equation just to see what you would do with it.
Do you now know, have any idea what the equation means?
Well, this is where it gets extremely interesting.
Mr. Cross had been, for a number of years, had been working on an equation of his own called the Thames Equation.
Which was an equation to what?
Well, the equation, I don't fully understand.
This is something that he has not fully touched base with me on.
It's pretty complicated.
I know the answer.
I have it right here in front of me, and I couldn't tell you with all these little symbols and all these little letters.
All right, so we've got to get to the bottom line.
What was his opinion of the equation?
Well, during the course of our investigation, he asked me if he could take my equation home and play with it, because the Tim's equation, he had a missing piece.
He could not get it to work.
Okay, bottom line, was this the missing piece?
Yes, it was.
He took an equation that I received during an encounter in 1969 and almost 30 some odd years later put, incorporated it into his equation.
Well, how can you not have asked what this equation was?
Well, his equation, the part in reference to the equation will be explained to me in detail.
We haven't gotten that far yet.
All right.
Well, when you do, I want to hear about it.
In the meantime, I absolutely appreciate the call.
But until we understand either what he was working on or how this filled that out or what it all means, at any rate, when you get the rest of that, I'd be most interested.
West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hello.
Is this me, Art?
That's you, sir.
Good to talk to you again.
Thank you.
Where are you?
Los Angeles area.
L.A., okay.
Yes, sir.
As I told you when you picked up the phone, I have part of an exorcism of about two minutes.
Oh, that's right.
You're the gentleman who once played an exorcism for me on the air, aren't you?
Yes, sir.
And you have now another exorcism.
I have another one, yeah.
I ran across it.
Now, there's nothing in what you're about to play that I cannot air, is there?
No, sir.
Alright, this is a real exorcism.
Yes, it is.
He had several.
This is just one of the demons that left him.
I plead the blood of Jesus over the blood of his soul.
The blood of the lamb.
The blood of the lamb.
The blood of Jesus.
The blood of Jesus.
That's him the other way.
If I read the name of Jesus Christ, if there's anything left in there, I ask that he come up now and be forced to get out of there in the name of Jesus Christ.
The Son of God was manifested to destroy the works of the devil.
Come on, Spirit.
Put your name and line up to the Holy Ghost.
In the name of Jesus Christ, the Son of the Most High God, I command you to speak only what is spoken to you.
What is your name?
Who?
What's your name?
I'm out there, did he yell?
God asked for Michael Harkin to take his sword right now and put to his devil's throat.
In the name of Jesus Christ.
Oh, please don't call him the last Jesus' name!
Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus!
Oh, I hate that name!
What is your name?
What's your name?
Left!
Left!
Left?
Are you the only one left?
Yes!
I'm the only one left!
Jesus, did God forgive him of his sin of lust?
Yes, he did!
I hate it, God!
Do you have any legal right in him?
No, I don't!
You can't- I command you to speak on what's spoken to and say what I tell you to say.
You understand me?
Yes, sir!
You don't remember Rust?
Yes!
I'll take that answer and I'll hold it up to the Holy Ghost right now.
If he's lying to me, Father, I have to be smitten and torn into torment.
Come on, Rust.
I command you to go in there.
You're not ready till I tell you.
There you have it.
Lust was exorcised.
There you have it.
Lust was exorcised.
Well, that's one I hadn't heard before, that's for sure.
That stuff comes up out of the deep south.
they, well you could hear their accents, they do that kind of thing.
They do that kind of thing, uh, sometimes even publicly.
It's pretty wild.
You're on the air, Coast to Coast AM on the First Time Caller line.
Hello.
Hi, this is Joanne from Milwaukee.
Hey, Joanne.
Um, back in 95, I saw two triangular Black triangular aircraft in the sky.
They had no cockpit.
They had no landing gears.
They were absolutely smooth and absolutely silent.
And they kind of hovered there for a while and then they did a vertical lift and did a simultaneously they did this perfect 90 degree turn and were out of sight literally in just a second.
Any doubt in your mind about what you saw?
Well, I've never seen any military craft like that, but I always wondered what yours looked like.
I kept hearing that you've seen some, but is that similar to what you saw?
We have seen two.
One was a triangular craft which flew directly over our heads.
The other was a disc, a very bright silver disc in the contrail of an airplane.
Which then eventually moved off to the south at a very rapid pace.
So we've seen two.
One was triangular, dark, stealthy, totally quiet, and impossible, you know, defying gravity.
Yeah, that's what I thought this was.
And I was sitting on the hood of my car and people are driving by and no one else is stopping.
And it's like, okay.
You know, I just wish someone else had seen it with me.
But I still don't believe it was a military craft.
I've never seen anything move like that and I've seen Harriers do their vertical lift and they're not silenced.
Well, I appreciate your call and your comment.
I too cannot, well I can't discount the possibility that it was a military craft.
It could be.
But I don't think that's what I saw.
I mean, it could be, and that's just, it's got to remain an open possibility.
After all, I do live in an area where experimental craft are regularly exercised.
You get to see them, so it could be, but I don't know.
It was close to nothing that I can even imagine we actually have.
Wild Card Line, you're on the air.
Hello.
Yeah, hi Art, this is Teresa, also calling from Milwaukee, Wisconsin.
Really?
Okay.
Yeah, I'm listening to you on 1130.
Excellent.
And first I want to say it's a pleasure to talk to you and I'm glad you're on Last Night Tonight because you're actually my birthday present.
Yesterday was my birthday.
Happy birthday.
Thank you.
Anyway, I wanted to get your take on maybe traveling to different dimensions.
I had a very weird occurrence happen to me a couple of years ago with me and my husband and it was like we just switched dimensions without ever knowing it.
How so?
Okay, my husband and I camp a lot, and we were in Michigan City, Indiana, and we were actually outside there at a park, and we used to have to go into Michigan City every day to get our food and stuff, and we would pass a nuclear power plant that was out there that had two reactors that were always going every day, and we stayed there probably for about a week and a half or so, and we came back to the same area about eight months later, and there was only one.
Huh.
Out of curiosity, we also ghost hunt.
So, you know, we check out very weird things.
But we ask people in the city, whatever happened to the other one, thinking maybe there was an accident or, you know, a leak or something that might have happened.
Sure.
They looked at us like we were crazy and said there had only been one to begin with.
There was never two of them.
But yet we have them on pictures.
We both saw them.
You know, this was every day, two or three times a day going to town to get food.
Well, we don't know what happened to it.
As far as the nuclear reactor disappearing, it was a very weird occurrence.
That really is weird.
Yeah.
I don't know.
I've heard so many stories over the years of what appear to be steps into other dimensions or time slips or little things that seem out of place that happen.
In just regular course of life, a lot of people probably don't even notice or don't pay attention, and then every now and then somebody does, and boom, you catch it.
Yeah, nothing ever, you know, happened to us like that before.
This was just a one-time occurrence, and we both thought if it had just been one of us, it would be different, but, you know, having both seen it and, you know, everybody just saying, no, there's only been one.
We're just wondering, you know, maybe a Coast to Coast listener has had the same experience.
Oh, that you can depend on.
Thank you very much.
Thank you very much.
Take care.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Good morning.
Good morning, Mr. Bell.
Hi.
This is Sean.
I'm calling from Lornburg, North Carolina.
Yes, sir.
And I'm very pleased to be speaking with you, because I didn't think I was going to get through, but here I am.
Hey, what do you know?
I have a short story I'd like to share with you and your audience, since tonight is considered to be contact night.
I guess.
It was about, I guess around three years ago, late September, early October of 2000, I was visiting my father in Louisville, Kentucky.
It was during a time where my grandfather had passed away, and I was in Ohio for his funeral, and I decided to travel down to see my father.
Well, while I was at my father's house one evening, my father was at work, and I was at the house with my brother and stepmother, which they had went out that evening to go run a couple of errands, and then they came back around a half hour later.
My brother Derek had told me that on their way out, he had seen this strange object in the sky not far from where my dad's house was, a little piece out in the neighborhood.
And I asked him, well, was this object still in the sky when they came back home?
And he said, yeah.
So we kind of estimated that it was at least there for a half an hour or so.
He and I took the notion to walk down through the neighborhood to maybe see if this thing was still there.
On that note, hold it right there.
Can you afford to hold on?
Yes, I sure can.
Oh, actually, we're paying for the call, so we can afford for you to hold on.
So stay right where you are, and we'll come back to you.
We've got to take a break here for news at the top of the hour.
Yeah, I guess this is Contact Night.
I've been where the eagle flies.
Rode his wings across autumn skies.
Kissed the sun, touched the moon.
But he left me much too soon, his ladybird.
He left his ladybird.
Lady Bird, come on down.
I'm here waiting on the ground.
Lady Bird, I'll treat you good.
Ah, Lady Bird, I wish you would.
Be it sight, sound, smell, or touch.
There's something inside that we need so much.
The sight of a touch, or the scent of the sand, or the strength of an oak when it moves deep in the ground.
The wonder of flowers to be covered and then to burst up through tarmac to the sun again.
Or to fly to the sun without burning a wing.
To lie in a meadow and hear the grass sing.
to have all these things in our memories, or,
and they use them, to help us,
to die.
Right, right as you saw,
take this place, on this trip,
just for me, for me.
From coast to coast, and worldwide on the internet, this is Coast to Coast AM with George Norrie, filling in for George.
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Now for George Norrie, special guest host, Art Bell.
Oh, we do live in a very mysterious and reassuring Cosmos, don't we?
Where anything is possible, where anything can happen.
Contact or... anything else.
But we seem to be talking about contact tonight.
What a night.
Actually, we'll get right back to it.
Open lines for contact.
East of the Rockies.
You're on the air.
Hello.
Yes, Art.
Thank you for letting me hold over during the break.
You're very welcome.
Continue on.
Yes, I'm very anxious to continue with my story.
So anyway, my brother and I, we decided to grab our binoculars.
We each had a pair.
And I wanted to take mine along because I have a visual impairment.
I have peripheral vision, but I don't have straight ahead vision.
It's called macular degeneration.
I was born with it.
But anyway, so we're walking down through the neighborhood.
And I'm like, well, you know, how far away is this thing?
And he says, well, it was a good ways down.
So I'd say we walked a good four or five blocks down through a fairly nice neighborhood, nice homes and such.
Well, we got partway down and he said, there it is.
And I said, there what is?
And I looked up and I seen this thing.
And I said, what in the world is it?
I mean, it was, I would, if I was guessing, I would estimate that it was probably about three or 400 feet up just hovering.
I mean, now I'm making a sound.
I looked at my brother and I said, describe it to me a little bit better because with a visual impairment I wanted to be sure I was seeing what I was seeing.
He's got excellent vision so he could tell me what he was seeing.
He said it's triangular shaped.
It has lights on the bottom and a red light in the center, which is exactly what it looked like to me.
We're standing there looking at this thing for about a good five minutes when all of a sudden it just decides to take off.
You know, but when it took off, it just kind of slowly glided across the sky, and as it was gliding across the sky, it was going upwards in elevation until it got, oh, I'd say maybe a few thousand feet up in the air, and then it just abruptly took off.
So we're standing there contemplating, what did we just see when, you know, I guess we were there about two minutes after this thing had left, and then it wasn't even two minutes later that we saw about three, uh, Military jets falling in the same line that the craft took off in, going in the same direction.
Very similar to many reports.
Yeah, but here's the crazy thing, though.
I went home later that night.
I was, at that time, a smoker.
I went out to smoke a cigarette.
I look across the field in the general direction of where we saw this thing earlier in the night, and I'm seeing these dancing lights going all over the place.
I don't know what they were.
They just looked like flashing orbs or something just hopping this way and that and just doing things that, you know, no aircraft that, you know, we could possibly conceive would even, you know, do anything like that, I mean, could do.
Sure, obviously.
All right, well, you know, this kind of a story is, I don't know, it's a typical contact story.
What else can you say?
It is a typical contact story.
It's happened to millions of people.
But what does it mean?
We see these things.
Are they observing us?
They're screwing around with our cows.
They're screwing around with our wheat fields.
They're purportedly sending messages.
I mean, what is this all about?
Really, what is it all about?
It is substantial.
It's real.
It's happening.
But what is it?
If there's a message, what is it?
If they're just observing, they're doing it in kind of a haphazard way.
The whole thing is very hard to figure out.
West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hello.
Hello, Art.
This is Mike.
I'm calling from Phoenix.
Hey, Mike.
And I want to talk about portals.
Portals?
Yeah, I've had a lifetime of experience with them in two different manners.
In each case, they're the same.
But I mean, the portals are recognizable as portals.
But it's either astrally or I've actually encountered them astrally in my sleep or I've encountered them wide awake.
I can say that... Portals to what?
Other worlds.
Portals to other worlds.
Now in what form do these portals take?
Is it just sort of a shimmering opening or what?
You know, like the iris of a camera?
Yes.
How it's kind of a pinpoint and then it opens up.
Sure.
It's like that.
Okay, okay, sure.
It starts at a small and opens up and it's blurred around the edges.
Is it lighted or is it of solids, some sort of substance, obvious substance?
Let's just say that there's this world and then you're looking through an opening into another three-dimensional,
very real, solid world.
Huh.
I mean, just like you're looking through a window.
I know other people have experienced these.
So you've only seen them or have you ever tried to step into one?
I've traveled astrally through them.
I can tell you that Carlos Castaneda's books Because of descriptions of other worlds in those books that the Toltecs talk about.
One of them, for example, is called the Yellow World.
I had been traveling through that astrally.
I'd fall asleep, it would open up, and I'd travel in my astral body around the Yellow World innumerable times.
The Yellow World is basically called that because it's nothing but yellow sand, yellow sand dunes, and yellow sky.
It's a boring place to walk around in.
Not a lot going on, just a whole bunch of sand and sky.
Right, but the Toltecs say that you basically have to cross that to get into other worlds.
So, anyway, another one is another actually boring place.
There's really nothing going on there.
It's a dark world.
It's kind of like, imagine yourself being on a planetoid, a rock in space, not well lit, just enough light to be able to see anything, and the thing is, it has a time effect that's different from our time.
A day without sunshine, sir, is like night.
Exactly.
Another world I saw, and this was a sighting when I was awake, it opened up in my room, The other side was green grass.
That sounds friendlier right away.
Oh, it was a beautiful place.
Green grass like a lawn.
Kind of a sloping hill sloping up to the top of this rise with a grove of some beautiful trees.
Do you think these worlds really exist?
Well, I've seen them.
I mean, I can't deny them.
I've experienced them.
You had a caller a number of years ago who said, and because of time constraints, you couldn't let her get into it, who said that she experienced portals and you'd be surprised as to the kinds of things that can be seen through them or that could pass through them.
And furthermore, there was a case where, and I had friends who actually invited me over to their apartment, third floor apartment, that had a portal in their closet and there was something
that came through and it was solid enough to nudge me in the ribs. It was
like this big friendly dog.
It wasn't a ghost.
I don't know that I would like that at all. I always appreciate the ghost. I always had a
dark fear of my closet anyway. I knew damn well there was a portal or something in there.
Every now and then I still close closets. I don't like closets closed. I just...
There's something about a closet.
Anybody else feel the same way?
I mean, it's dark.
There's all those clothes in there.
You never see what's behind it.
You'll know something's there, right?
Moving around behind the clothes.
First-time caller line, you're on the air.
Good morning.
Yes, Art.
I listened to Matt Drudge on the Matt Drudge Report last Sunday night, and he said that he had missed your show and was wondering what had happened to you.
He was wondering what had happened to me?
Right.
Um, well... So he did evidently, he said it was one of the best shows there was and he just hadn't heard you and uh, so I just thought you might like to know.
Well, hello to Matt and thanks for the rumor, buddy.
No, he's on here.
I'm calling from South Texas.
Oh, I know.
He's on all over the country.
Right, all over the country.
And this was last Sunday evening.
I'm well aware.
Believe me, I got email messages.
I didn't know whether your calls would be good ones or bad ones as far as he's concerned.
They should be good, but I thought you might like to know since you're out of here.
I do appreciate it.
Thank you.
Yes, ma'am.
Thank you very much for that rumor.
Matt floated a rumor that he said, I think, but somebody told me he said he had from several sources that I was coming out of retirement and would appear exclusively on XM radio or something like that.
And I got about five million emails.
Thanks, Matt.
And as I said last night in detail, that rumor is not true.
Wild Card Line, you're on the air.
Hello.
Good morning.
Uh, good morning.
This is Mark from Lincoln, Nebraska.
Yes, Mark.
I'm listening on Super Station 1110 KFAB.
Boy, that idiot rocks out across planes, yeah.
Oh, it sure does.
Hey, uh, first of all, I want to mention about that... Oh, that poor cat.
Oh, the cat?
Yes.
The cat?
You mean...
That poor cat.
It's that second one that gets me.
I know, huh?
Yeah.
The thing is, people say the poor cat.
Well, you know what I say?
Oh, poor hell.
If that cat gets down there, there's going to be hell to pay.
You know, you never know.
I mean, if you think optimistically, maybe it was on its way to cat heaven.
I mean, maybe there's nothing down there, but you know.
I don't know.
Little warrior cat.
Gourmet cat food, whatever.
Art, let's assume that Alexander Sitchin was correct.
You mean Zacharias?
Oh, I'm so sorry.
Zacharias.
We were apparently perfectly happy monkeys or something.
We were a bunch of gold diggers.
Yes, genetically engineered to mine our own gold.
That's right.
Our own gold.
Well, no.
We were created, well, it may be our planet, but they were having us mine gold, not for ourselves, but for them.
Yes, exactly.
And now, they come back and they want to be our friends?
Well, you've got a good point there.
Now, many people say that there are many, many, many different aliens.
Not just those who pass by every now and then on Ibaru, but many different ones.
Right?
Yes.
But, I mean, if they were the same ones, then you have a very good point.
You know, we need a ringer.
A ringer?
A ringer.
This is why we need SETI.
We're calling out for help.
We need some help from some unto-here-for-heard-of party that is going to come in and help us.
We need a ringer.
Well, I don't know.
As I said, a lot of people wish and hope and pray for this, that somebody will come zooming in in their chrome saucers and save our butts.
But I'm not so sure.
And I think hoping and praying for that is fine, but you better help yourself.
Amen to that, Art.
Hey, first-time caller, long-time listener, love you to death, Art.
Thank you for the call.
Take care.
East of the Rockies, guess what?
You're on the air.
Yes.
Turn your radio off, please.
Yes, sir.
Good.
Thank you.
Yes, hello.
Hello.
Yes, Art.
That would be me.
And this is Paul from Baltimore.
Yo, Paul.
I have a theory about your crop circles.
They're not mine.
They're ours, my friend.
Yes, and I'm listening on CC Radio, of course.
My stations I listen to would be the 1110 and 1210.
But I believe the crop circles are the poachers in the divine garden of souls.
And Ed Daines has talked about this, that we really are a crop of souls.
Oh yes, and many others have as well.
It's a fascinating theory.
Poachers in the divine crop of souls.
Garden of souls.
And of course there is the prime directive like in Star Trek.
Only deception can be used.
In other words, there can be no interference, but they can use deception.
And I believe that the UFOs and the crop circles are basically the deceptive interference.
At any rate, the real issue at hand would be the soul of man.
That's what all of this is about.
Turn your radio off, you don't need to hear that.
The real issue at hand here is the soul of mankind.
Right, and if you remember Independence Day?
Clearly.
Yeah, the top of the building party?
Yes.
Yeah, that's what the believers in the crop circles would be.
Well, maybe.
I did make note at the time I saw that movie, and I'm sure many of you did too, that there would be people who would go out and welcome them exactly as was depicted in that motion picture.
Would they be fried and toasted at the top of the building, or would they get the welcome they thought they were in for?
I don't know.
I think it's a flip of the coin right now.
West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hello.
Hi, Mr. Bell.
Hello.
This is Tony Northalliwood.
Hey, Tony.
Kind of with the last caller, I have a theory on what the message might be.
Sure.
Didn't the guy say that it emanates from the constellation Pisces?
Yes.
Isn't Pisces a symbol for Jesus?
Okay.
And also that the, um, what other thing, the object has wings?
Uh, the object that Soho took a photograph of, uh, was a winged object.
Yes.
And winged object you would think would be like angelic?
And if it's to believe, the belief might be in Jesus.
It might be.
Because if it's coming from Constellation Pisces... All of that might be, but I mean, if you're coming at this from the direction I think you're coming at it from, then you should also be well aware the Bible says all this sort of stuff is wicked, evil nonsense.
Well, I also think it's Right?
There's like a convergence of things happening all at the same time.
Yes, but still, that is what the Bible says about these things.
Right.
Wicked, evil, nonsense.
But I also always thought that the second coming would be, like they said, there would be signs in the heavens.
Well, maybe.
I don't know, though, how it can be preceded by signs in the heavens when the instructions are to ignore them as wicked, evil things.
So, I don't know how you're going to know when the real McCoy is here.
Well, I think that they really didn't want us to know that, maybe, to prepare ourselves.
Because, like they say, it's either going to be a mass evacuation or like a tribulation.
People will be caught up.
One will be left behind and the other will be taken.
Ah, the great sucking sound.
The lifting of what?
About half or better?
Right.
Of all who are here?
I always remember that part.
That always stuck in my head.
Where one would be left behind in the field.
One would be left behind and the other would be taken.
What would you think if you woke up one day and all your friends who were really the best people you ever knew were gone?
I don't know.
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I'm a racer, I'm a racer You got me shaking up and running away
I'm a racer You got me crawling up to you every day
You bring me down I'm a racer
No, no, no, no, no I'm a racer
I'll tell you when, love, before I get off the floor Don't bring me down, no, no, no
I'm a racer I'll tell you when, love, before I get off the floor
Don't bring me down, no, no, no I'm a racer
I'll tell you when, love, before I get off the floor From coast to coast and worldwide on the internet
This is Coast to Coast AM with George Norrie Filling in for George, tonight's special guest host is Art Bell.
To talk with Art, call the wildcard line at area code 775-727-1295.
775-727-1295. The first time caller line is area code 775-727-1222.
East of the Rockies call 800-825-5666.
Good morning everybody from the high desert.
Please call 800-618-8255.
International callers may reach ART by calling the AT&T International Operator and dialing toll-free 800-893-0903.
Now for George Norrie, special guest host, ART Bell.
We're rocking into the night of the unknown.
Good morning, everybody, from the high desert.
We'll continue with all of this almost immediately.
Well, I've got to admit, it certainly is a trip getting to talk to all of you again.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Good morning!
Hello!
Oh, gosh.
Ryan here in Kansas City.
I'd be embarrassed were you to have remembered some of the conversations we've had in the past.
Oh, I'd be amazed.
Anyway, give it a shot.
I'd sure like to encourage people to Turn your radio off.
Look into this historical artwork thing.
You've had a good time.
Wait a minute.
Slow up.
Hold it.
Hold it.
Slow up.
Turn your radio off.
Gosh, I'm going to run farther away from the room.
I'm at a friend's house here.
But to me, this has just been the best evidence of... Historical.
Hold on.
Hold on.
Slow down.
Historical artwork.
What historical artwork?
I'm sorry?
What historical artwork?
Gosh, well, there's stuff hanging in the Louvre.
I mean, so many things from both the Renaissance and, gosh, going back 30,000 years ago, cave paintings, you know.
Matthew Hurley is a man that you've had on in the past.
So you're referring to all of this old artwork that you believe depicts alien presence?
I mean, these are hat-shaped crafts with beams of light shining down on people, with people and their animals looking up in the background.
You know, you are exactly right.
Yes, there's a lot of it.
It's pre-sci-fi, this stuff, you know, and to me, it's just the best evidence out there.
It's either... Gosh, I'd sure like to hear him back, and... Alright, well, sir, you know what?
That's either evidence, you see, of the fact that we have always been visited Or you've got to imagine it can be evidence of people always imagining that kind of a visitation.
Right?
You can't know for sure that that's what they were looking at any more than we depict things that come from our imagination.
And put them in print and put them on walls and serve them up as graffiti and in every way you can imagine.
We do that, right?
We picture a lot of things or turn things into pictures that come from our imagination.
So you can't rule out the fact that's what they were doing.
West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hello.
Art?
Yes.
Hi.
Hi.
I have a sound clip of Hell I Want to Play to you and Coast to Coast listeners.
It's a sound clip of what?
It's a sound clip of Hell.
You can hear fire burning.
And you can hear people with, like, soul-burning and just demonic.
Soul-burning?
Where did this come from?
Well, I have a... I listen to a state-and-this-heavy-metal band.
They're named Deicide, and it's on their CD.
It's really cool.
So, in other words, they created the sound, right?
I guess.
I have no idea where they got it from.
I see.
Well, that's interesting, but that comes from a rock band, and I can do you one better.
Yeah, well, I think you should hear this one, though.
Well, I'm willing to listen to a little of that.
Let me hear it.
Okay, ready?
Here it goes, people.
It's supposed to be hell.
It's from a rock band.
I hear the flame.
now, and they're screaming.
Alright, well there it is.
All right, that's their depiction of hell.
Then there's the other hell.
You see, this purports to be a real recording of hell.
One taken in Siberian Russia, where they drilled the deepest hole in the world.
This was carried on news services and then lowered mics into the hole.
The scientists, after hearing the following, fled the site.
Here it is.
was if you pulled that sound out of a hole
you'd probably take off too, wouldn't you?
First-time caller line, you're on the air.
Hello.
Hello, Art?
Yes.
This is Frank in eastern Washington.
How are you?
I'm fine, Frank.
Boy, I tell you, that's a scary sound, I tell you.
It is, yes.
Well, I tell you, I got a story about when I was visited by aliens.
Last summer, I was out in the backyard, And I got, there's this light, late at night, and there's lights going all around.
And pretty soon, what happened is, is they started to converge right in the middle, and they came down, and it was like a ship, and landed right in my field.
And I got about 10 acres out there.
Yes, sir.
And these little guys came out, and they were gray.
I'll tell you, these were the grays.
And they came out, and they went up to me, And I swear to goodness, I was scared and I didn't know what to do.
I thought they were going to hurt me or something and take me away in their ship.
And you know, I got, I got things to do, you know?
So, so I mean, so anyway, there they were and they were pointing at me and they're talking amongst themselves in kind of a threatening manner.
And I didn't know what to do.
I didn't have my shotgun with me.
So I just pulled out, I had some pepper spray.
You know, and they got them big ol' eyes.
You pepper-sprayed greys?
Yeah, yeah, they didn't like that one bit.
Oh, I'm sure with those big eyes, my God, man.
And see, what happened when you hit them with the pepper spray, what happened?
Well, I tell you, they started hopping around.
They don't have no eyelids.
They were hopping around?
Oh, that's right, no eyelids.
Oh, my God.
They were mad at me, I tell you.
And one of them that I didn't get real good, he, like, pointed his finger at me.
Yeah?
Yeah, I think he had something in his hand or something.
But then I couldn't move.
And he obviously paralyzed you.
I tell ya.
And then they brought me in there.
And you know all those stories about those anal probes?
Uh-huh.
Those are true.
Uh-huh.
I tell ya, they really got me good.
Well, uh... And my dog, my dog was in the house.
He was carrying on and everything.
Yeah.
They even anal probed him.
I tell ya.
Oh my God, even your dog.
Alright, well, I'm sorry to hear it.
I hope life is better to you as the years roll by.
I appreciate the call.
Pepper spray!
In those big eyes that can't even close.
Ah, that's cold.
Really cold.
Wild Card Line, you're on the air.
Hello.
Hello, Art.
I'm Diana, and I'm listening from Bakersfield, California.
Yes.
And I want to know How you lost 50 pounds and where we can see a picture of you.
How did I lose 50 pounds?
I lost 50 pounds by not eating so much.
It's the real secret not eating so much diet.
Oh, the hard way.
In other words, after I retired, of course obviously I'm not sitting around as much, right?
I'm moving more, so that probably helps, but mostly it's just I decided I stopped eating so much, and when I did, my stomach got smaller, and then I didn't want to eat as much, so then it wasn't hard.
No big secret.
That's really great, but I want to see a picture of you.
Well, I'm sure we can arrange that.
Oh, good.
Okay?
Will you say it on the air where we can look?
Yeah, sure.
Why not?
Next time I'm on, I'll take a picture and you can see the new me.
Thank you very much, and congratulations.
Yes, you're very welcome.
Thank you.
Yeah, I thought it was pretty cool.
And there's no other secret.
It's called the Great Secret No Knees Much Diet.
It's worked very well for me.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hello.
Hello, Art.
This is Michael in Norfolk, Virginia.
Hey there.
I've got just a quick research note for you.
I know that sometimes you have difficulty taking contact information off the air, so I'll just tell you in advance of my note that Your call screener in Los Angeles... I don't have a call screener.
Well, I mean, George's call screener in Los Angeles has my number.
He has used it just once a few weeks ago to contact me, so I don't know if he still has it, if you're not able to take my number down right now.
No, I'm not.
Talk to Tom Danheiser to get in touch with me, but here's the research note.
There is a term in modern theology which is very frequently used by one half of Christianity and almost never used by the other half.
And what is that?
It is a title, a theological title.
The title is Mother of God.
Yes.
Now, the reason why this is important is in conjunction with the problems that are going on in the Middle East and the possibilities for a great new political breakthrough that is coming up in just a few weeks.
Now this title, just from a purely scientific point of view, has a lot of controversy.
At face value, it's an oxymoron.
It seems to be an inherent contradiction.
Well, it does, doesn't it?
Yes.
But, also, there is half of Christianity which considers it an accusation.
Like the modern term... I would imagine, yeah, I would imagine.
Yeah, I'm not going to use the modern term, but it suggests that the father of Jesus committed incest with the grandmother of Jesus.
Yeah, I follow The only logical way that could be said.
You understand that?
Yeah.
Well now, it also suggests something else.
It suggests that there is a being in the world which not only preceded the Eternal God, but also had an overarching influence over the Eternal God.
Now... A creator of the creator, huh?
Yeah, yeah.
Now this This matches up with a prediction in the book of Daniel which says that some figure would come along, exalt himself above all gods, and pronounce extreme blasphemies or insults against the God of gods.
So, here's the thing.
Here's how this relates to the Middle East.
Now this is also very offensive to the Islamic world, this title.
I can imagine.
And most of the Protestant world will not use it.
Now, the key is this.
Roman Catholic churches have images or statues which are dedicated to this entity called the Mother of God, and some of those churches are in the land of Israel.
And the new proposal for peace that's coming down through diplomatic circles in the next few weeks Is to remove those images, all of them, out of Israel as a new breakthrough for peace between Jews and Islamics who are unified in their offense against this term.
And this is going to actually... Well, that's about the only thing they're unified on, then.
Exactly.
But this is going to be the beginning of a new initiative That you're going to eventually see Palestinians... And who do you think will bring this forth?
Well, I can't get into that right now, but I am involved with that.
Oh, you're involved?
Oh yes, yes.
That's why I wanted you to talk to Tom Danheiser, who has my number, because by October the 7th, You're going to see a dramatic breakthrough in the world.
All right, we're marking that one down on the calendar.
October 7th, dramatic breakthrough in the Middle East.
West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hello.
Hello, Art.
Good to hear your voice.
Thank you.
Wonderful.
When I was a child, we had an old house in San Francisco.
We were all raised in it, seven of us.
And I was the middle kid, by the way.
And I think when you're a child, you may agree with this, I think you're more, I don't know, in tune spiritually with both
Outside good forces and outside bad forces.
I do agree.
You do?
Oh, sure.
I've always believed that, and I think you can... Oh, there's no question about it.
We have not yet been brainwashed into ignoring all of that, so it comes as naturally as curiosity about a table and a chair and a rug when you see them for the first time.
Exactly.
However, I don't have time to go through my whole big list, but just to give you an idea of the things that we went through in our house, we had to get the... I'm a Catholic.
We have to get the church involved in this.
And I have never told this story to any radio show or anything.
In fact, I'm not even... I'm using my middle name because... That's fine, but we don't have a lot of time, so tell it to us.
Okay.
Disembodied arm pulled down my sheet very slowly.
I stood up to grab the arm.
It went up into the ceiling.
It had a very distinctive pajama pattern on it.
The entire disembodied arm had a pajama thing on it?
It was just an arm, in other words.
But with a pajama thing on it.
But with a pattern of a torn pajama arm on it.
Oh, man.
Now, when I went down into the basement, my mother was doing the laundry, and she asked me to get the mail, which was in the garage, past the basement.
So I walked, and I'm going as fast as I can, so I walked to get the mail, and I noticed something on the right, lots of cobwebs.
And my father had an old saw, like a shopsmith or a skillsmith or whatever they're called.
Yes.
And there was all these cobwebs on it, so it hadn't been touched.
And something caught my eye, and I looked way deep in the corner, where it was against the wall, and I saw the pattern of that sleeve.
So I got a stick, and I pulled it out, and I screamed, and my mother asked me why I was screaming, and I said, you'd never believe me.
So, I mean, it was the sleeve, the torn sleeve that was on the arm that had pulled my covers down.
Then, just a couple more.
Listen, I'm not going to have time for a couple more.
Besides, you're never going to top that anyway.
OK.
Thank you, Art.
All right.
You're very welcome.
Take care.
So there you have it.
A disembodied pajama arm.
All right, well, it has been a blast.
I want to remind you all, if you wish to contact me until the next time we meet, whenever that may be, I do have operative email addresses, artbellatminespring.com and artbellataol.com.
That's a-r-t-b-e-l-l, lowercase, at minespring.com or artbellataol.com.
It has been such a pleasure being back with you, and I look forward to the next opportunity to do so.
I wish you all have a very wonderful night, indeed, and a remainder of the weekend.
And once again, thank you, George, and thank you, Premier Radio Networks.
And night, y'all.
We'll let the princess take us out of here.
And she is a princess.
Night, night.
Midnight in the desert, shooting stars across the sky This magical journey, will take us on a ride
Filled with a longing, searching for the truth Will we make it to tomorrow?
Will the sun shine on you?
Midnight in the desert, I'm a less than, ooh a less than a human
I'm a less than a human, ooh a less than a human Midnight in the desert, I'm a less than a human
Midnight in the desert, and there's wisdom in the air I've been looking for the answers, all my life I've felt
you there As the world we live in begins I'll be heeding all the signs Have we lost our intuition?
Are we running out of time?
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