Art Bell welcomes Richard C. Hoagland, who presents NASA’s alleged cover-up of Martian ruins—like the "Face" in Cydonia and a 300,000-year-old underground city—using falsified October 24, 2002, infrared images to hide anomalies. Thermal data reveals artificial structures with internal heat sources, defying natural explanations, while Hoagland ties their age to human genetic bottlenecks and Earth’s fossil record leap. He warns NASA delays disclosure until a "right political environment," citing a 2012 celestial alignment deadline and urging listeners to pressure Congress, especially John McCain’s Commerce Committee. Meanwhile, the Great Pyramid’s hidden chambers, radioactive sand, and hyperdimensional limestone fragments challenge mainstream Egyptology, suggesting advanced off-planet civilizations reshaped history—implying humanity’s origins may be far stranger than official narratives admit. [Automatically generated summary]
From the high desert and the great American Southwest.
I've been doing all good evening, good morning, good afternoon, wherever you may be in whatever time zone, wherever you are in the world.
This is Coast to Coast AM, and I'm Art Bell.
Great to be here.
Lots to do tonight.
Richard C. Hogan will be with us in the next hour.
Lots to update you on, like those Russian photographs and intrigue going on with all of that.
About to be next hour, this hour, I don't know.
We'll do Oldermines, whatever.
The United States reached critical agreement.
Oh, wait a minute.
I've got some stuff on the website for you.
And we'll talk about the critical agreement.
Number one, which is really number two, I have come upon probably some classified photographs, my guess.
Not sure about that, but I'm guessing they might be.
And I toyed during a lot of the day with what to do with them.
And in the end, I decided to put them up and protect the person who sent them.
And I've already destroyed the email, so don't bother coming to see me about it in case you don't like it.
These were photographs taken on a military C-130 transporting al-Qaeda.
And I'll just let you be the judge yourself, but these were slipped to me, let's put it that way.
Ain't the internet wonderful.
That's the second item.
You might take a look-see.
It would have been a long trip there from Afghanistan to Guantanamo Bay.
All right, so that is a second item on the website right now.
The first item on the website is a music video.
You know that piece of music, those three Spanish gals that I played for you last night?
Well, we just happened to find a video of it.
So if you want to see the gals, and they're worth seeing, trust me, and hear the music, it's up there.
That's the first item.
And then actually, the item I like best is the third item, which is simply entitled, How the World Works.
And in this case, a picture is definitely worth a thousand words, maybe more.
In fact, we didn't put any title other than what's under what's new, which says how the world works.
There's no writing with this whatsoever.
It is simply a photograph that, when studied for a very short period of time indeed, resonates with just about everybody out there with regard to how the world really works.
And that would be the third item.
All of these items under what's new.
Now, the critical agreement.
It seems that we have agreed with France, or more likely France has agreed with us, on a tough U.N. resolution that gives Iraq one last chance to disarm or face in, quotes, serious consequences, setting the stage for a vote on Friday.
While Thursday's agreement offers concessions, it still meets the president's demands to toughen inspections and free the U.S. to take military action if inspectors say Iraq isn't complying.
Our president is charting a new agenda for the new Republican Congress, and he intends to make priority one homeland security.
He says that comes first, and any tax cuts and other stuff that people hardly care about, like economic recovery, can wait until next year.
So homeland security first.
It's interesting.
The two suspects in the sniper spree, well, they're going on trial.
They'll stand trial first in Virginia, a state with a very strong death penalty and a record of carrying out executions.
You know, through all the sniper incident, tragedy, whatever in the heck it was, I still don't know what the motivation is for having done all this.
Do you?
Do you all have any idea?
Have you heard?
Have I missed something?
Was there some place where they wrote something up and said why they were doing this?
Was it a game?
Did they want something?
There was some mumbling about money, but that's about all I ever heard.
China's Communist Party Congress convened amid tight security Friday, drawing about 2,000 delegates together on fabled Tiananmen Square.
I don't know if fabled is the right word.
To steer the nation through breakneck changes and introduce a new generation of leaders.
Four former members of the Simbinese Liberation Army pleaded guilty to murder Thursday and the shotgun slaying of a bank customer during a 1975 holdup.
It's taken that along, virtually ending one of the most notorious and violent sagas of radical 1970s politics.
NASDAQ, down, Dow, down, 185.
A dim technology forecast from Cisco sent stocks a tumbling Thursday as investors upbeat after four weeks of gains got a sobering reminder of the economy's very uncertain outlook.
There is plague, bubonic plague, in New York.
That's a Middle Ages type disease.
It's in New York City.
In fact, there had not been a case in New York City of the plague in at least the past hundred years, according to Health Commissioner there.
No evidence of danger to the public, they say.
A woman identified as a man's wife was also hospitalized, but her tests had not been completed.
The pairs' names were not released.
Officials said they were in the city on vacation.
Great vacation, huh?
The 53-year-old man is listed in critical condition.
the 47-year-old woman, stable.
They were being treated with antibiotics.
His positive result came from a preliminary test.
More tests were being done, they said.
Paris showed up at the hospital's emergency room Tuesday night during a visit to New York after several days of fever and swollen lymph nodes.
The patients were placed in isolation.
Health officials also testing for more common respiratory illnesses.
The bubonic plague claimed millions of lives in Europe and Asia and the Middle Ages.
Plague is one of the handful of agents that federal health officials fear could be used or might be used in a bioterrorist attack.
But officials at Beth Israel Hospital, where the pair were being treated, said the man's case was almost certainly natural.
Experts say that governments across Europe need to plan for a flu outbreak that could claim hundreds of thousands of lives.
You better get ready, is what they're saying.
Although the last two winters have brought only mild strains of flu to the United Kingdom, the viruses are constantly mutating.
Scientists say it's only a matter of time now before a powerful strain like the old one emerges, the 1918 strain.
And flu actually kills a lot more people than you think that it does.
It kills a whole lot more.
Even though the 1957 and 1968 outbreaks that we had were less severe than the Spanish flu, they still accounted for 40 million deaths between them.
My God, that's a lot of people.
The more recent flus, 1968, 1957, together accounting for 40 million dead across the world.
So the flu is a very serious thing.
I still am very unsure myself about flu shots.
I don't know.
I may not get one this year.
I had a pretty good fever of unknown origin last year, and I suspect that flu shot.
But of course, I can't know that for sure, and it may well not be connected at all.
but I'm contemplating whether or not I want to take a flu shot.
On the other hand, after reading this, well...
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Tonight featuring Coast to Coast AM from November 7, 2002.
Coast to Coast AM All right, I received the following from a police officer, Danny, Texas.
That's how he starts out.
Art, I'm a police officer in Texas.
Last night, my partner and I got on the subject of ghosts while on patrol.
We drove through one of several cemeteries in our city that date back to the mid-1800s.
My partner began to tell me of a cemetery plot not far from our town that he visited a few years ago.
He and his then wife drove out to the cemetery for kicks.
He instructed his wife to wait in the truck and he proceeded into the cemetery.
While walking on the grounds, he said he found it odd that all of the grave markers appeared to be people who had died relatively young, none of them older than 30.
As he turned to walk out of the cemetery, he said he suddenly felt like it was running in a swimming pool.
You know what that feels like running in a swimming pool?
You can't go fast, right?
Hardly able to move, he said, but aware of his surroundings.
When he made it back to the truck, his wife was pale.
He asked her what was wrong, and she said, get me the hell out of here.
He asked again what was wrong, and she yelled again.
He put the truck in gear and left.
While driving home, he asked his wife what was wrong.
After convincing his wife that he hadn't seen anything, she told him there was a person standing behind him, approximately three to four feet in height, wearing a dark cloak with a hood.
After telling me this, my partner said, you probably think I'm crazy.
All right.
i stopped our patrol car maybe you turn headed back to the police station your website and showed him the shadow person section on one of the pictures i saw him He pointed at the computer screen and said, I've seen that before.
I asked him where and when, and he said in the woods near an old burial site.
He said he and some friends had seen that thing one night while hunting about two years ago.
Another story that I'll relay later if anyone wants to hear it.
I believe in shadow people.
I've seen many a strange thing at night on patrol.
Things that one day I may have the courage to talk about.
But for my partner to react the way he did to the image on the computer and the story he told, wow.
But you might find it interesting, by the way, the cemetery I spoke of is widely known by the old-timers here as being guarded by Satan's children, a reference they use to describe the shadow people.
I thought you all might find that somewhat interesting.
At any rate, what I'm going to do is just I'm going to begin to take calls, and we'll test out this telephone gear, this nice, shiny new telephone gear I've got here.
Actually, what I've got is a new power supply inside the phone gear.
Today I swapped out power supplies in this Gentner unit, and it should be really spiffy right now.
I'm sorry if they're a little uncomfortable, but no, I feel exactly the same way.
Now, I did hesitate before I posted them, before I put them up there, because I thought, you know, exactly there's going to be the kind of reaction that you just worried about yourself.
And I was going to tell you something that happened to me here a while back.
I drive a truck, and it happened about a year ago, and I was in Nashville, Tennessee, and I was on a four-lane road, and I was going down the road, and I come over a little hill, and I saw a car had ran off into the grass in between the highways.
And it had hit a telephone pole.
A telephone pole had broken off and was laying over the top of the car.
And as I pulled up to it, there was a small girl, about eight or nine years old, standing out beside the back of the car, waving her arms, trying to get somebody to stop.
And there was a guy standing beside her, and he was probably about 35 or 40 or something.
He had blue jeans and a blue jean jacket on.
It was kind of cool.
And so I saw him, so I pulled over on the side of the road to get out and see if I could help him in any way.
And when I stopped, it took me a few minutes to get stopped, so I kind of passed the vehicle.
I jumped out of the truck, and I ran back there to him.
And the guy wasn't there.
It was only a little girl.
She was crying a little bad.
And I walked over there.
And the guy that I saw standing there with that little girl was now in the floorboard of the car pinned under the dash.
And there was another lady driving.
The lady was awake, but she was pinned also.
And she was calling out that guy's name.
I checked the guy, and he was just, he was gone.
He was dead.
It was the very same guy who I saw standing beside that little girl.
What you saw is he's somebody who dies in those circumstances, instantly, apparently, trapped underneath.
There's no way that man could have been outside, not in his real body.
And I guess not in that lifetime.
But you know, he knew what had happened.
At the instant or two before he died, he knew what was about to happen.
His wife was there, and his little girl was there.
And if ever you were able to cross the line in death and come back, even for a short time, that would be the time you could do it.
Right?
Your mind would be on your wife and on your child.
And even if you only had an instant in which to manifest to yourself, you would do it, and that would be the instant.
Now, I wonder how last night's guest, a very intelligent, extremely well-credentialed theoretical physicist and astronomer and really a hard science guy all the way.
I don't know whether you caught the end of the program last night, but I asked him in my own way, virtually, about God, and he said, basically, no.
You know, no, I don't believe it.
And if I had to answer the question in that movie, you know, I'd have had to have said, no, I won't go because I don't believe in God.
Basically, I believe that we have electricity within us and the synapses, fire, and all the rest of it.
But when we die, that electrical energy dies with us.
Those were his words.
So I wonder, you know, I wonder how somebody like that would react to a story like the one you just heard.
There's probably more to all of this than those of hard science imagine in their wildest dreams, don't you think?
There probably is more to all of this.
And that's a great deal of what this program is all about.
That area just past where hard science is willing to say they'll go.
I'm Art Bell from the High Desert.
This is Coast to Coast AM.
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tonight featuring coast to coast a m from november seven two thousand two Once upon a time, once when you were lied, I remember you skies reflected in your eyes.
I wondered where you were.
I wonder if you think about me.
Once upon a time.
With the magic in his eyes, checking the big girl and die, cooler like it does the mamble.
And he's an airline like it's called playing sexy in the morning.
The DJ and I'm going to spy on the spot, where's the brand of crazy mix and they go mezcla con la salsa, y la baila, and the dances, y la canta.
A se de he, ha de he, de hebe to de hebe, se de vino pa, ma vi en de buki en de buidi de fi.
A se de he, ha de he, de hebe to de hebe, se de vino pa, ma vi en de buki en de buidi de fi.
Aspereje, aspereje, dejeje de tu, dejeje de ese niño, a maviande bukirne, buiditi.
Música Many think it's no clear, how it comes and disappears.
Many more forget what ties you.
Some will call it too large, others say that it's a real.
That's a part of gold easy.
And it's an airline, like it's so big.
The DJ and the music are on the spot, I'm the band of the mix, I'm the best at full of salsa.
Fine, you went all, you may have visited the world's capitals for all I know.
But unless you can produce, and I've had a few guests who have done this, so I don't deny that it's a possibility, unless you can produce some real-world evidence, evidence that you were someplace and affected something, or were, for example, recognized by somebody as having been there,
or were able to move something, or in some way document the fact that while ostensibly asleep or out of your body, in other words, proof, folks.
Hard proof.
There's not a lot of it out there, but some of the OBE people you talk to do tell anecdotal stories that involve real proof, so I haven't made up my mind about it yet.
I do know it's something that the human brain can do, or that really does happen one way or the other.
It's a real experience.
I've had one myself, so to that degree, I understand it.
But as for the rest of it, I don't know yet.
West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hello?
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I want to talk to Art about an out-of-body experience.
Okay, well, here you are, and I'm Art, so go ahead.
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Okay, well, when I was 19, I was running next to a train, wanting to hop on that train, and suddenly the universe pretty much stopped, and I saw a grid in front of my eyes in space, and I saw all different kinds of every kind of possible conceivable conception of human activity.
You know, most of us look at a hero as a guy with a cape who can jump over a building in a single bound, you know, spin himself around and drill to the earth and come out the other side.
All just, you know, jumping, going out of space.
Well, in actuality, no pun intended, you know, he's a guy that can fall off a loss and paralyze itself.
But we don't look at a hero as a true hero as a person who gets millions of people to listen to him, like Jesus did.
And that's what you do.
And you got this power that you don't, you know you got it, but you don't want to, you're afraid to use it.
That's this power of, I don't want to say prayer, but you know.
And a power that you do not understand is one that you can tragically misuse.
And I do want to say a few words about this to all of you.
You know, what's done by others when I'm not here, I certainly cannot control.
However, I think it is reckless.
And I think that it is ill-advised to plunge into these uses of mass consciousness.
And I think it is so because we surely, absolutely do not understand this power.
I have come to understand, believe without question, as a matter of proof, because I've seen it work, that it does work.
However, there's also the law of unintended consequences.
And when you're tooling around with something this powerful, you have got, you've just absolutely got to take into consideration before you say, let's rock, the law of unintended consequences.
When you're dealing with things like nature, the power of nature in storms, and human events of varying sorts, before applying this kind of power, before marshaling these kinds of forces, even though you think you're doing good, trust me when I tell you, you could have the exact opposite effect, a very tragic effect.
And I've done interviews with people who are right in the middle of this.
They understand this.
They work with the universities that are exploring all of this right now.
And on their counseling, I have come to believe that it's nothing to be toyed with right now.
I think one day, once we've done some controlled experiments and we understand more about it, then maybe who knows, for the good of mankind, for the good of whatever, such power might be applied.
You know, millions of minds at concentration toward one end.
But make one little mistake, and millions will be affected.
And then it won't be so funny.
So, I'd be very cautious about stepping across that line.
I am, and I think all should be.
From the high desert, Richard Hoagland.
Richard C. Hoagland is up next.
I'm Art Bell, and this is Coast to Coast AM, roaring through the night like freight trains.
Keep it right where you've got it.
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Something inside that we need so much.
The sight of a touch, or the scent of the sand, or the strength of an oak when you use deep in the ground.
The wonder of flowers to be covered and then to burst up through tarmac to the sun again.
Or to fly to the sun without burning a wing.
To lie in a meadow and hear the grass sing.
All these things in our memories are And they use them to help us to find Why do you find what she's on?
Take this place, on this trip, just come on, yeah!
Why?
Why?
Take a fear to the place of the sea.
It's more free.
I will have been sweating for years.
Sweat so hard just to win my fears.
And to win my life in all my life.
But by now, by now, I shall have grown.
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Premier Networks presents Art Bell Somewhere in Time tonight, featuring Coast to Coast AM from November 7, 2002.
Well, you've been here for years, a guest on this program for years.
Richard C. Hoagland is a former museum space science curator, a former NASA consultant, and during the historic Apollo missions to the moon with science advisor Walter Cronkite and CBS News.
For the last 10 years, Hoagland has been leading an outside scientific team, very outside, in a critically acclaimed independent analysis of possible intelligently designed artifacts on NASA and other data sets, beginning with the unmanned NASA Viking mission to Mars in 1976 and its provocative images of a region called Sidonia.
In 1993, Hoagland was awarded the International Engstrom Medal for his science, excellence rather in science, by the Engstrom Foundation in Stockholm, Sweden for that continuing research.
In the last four years, he and his team's investigations have been quietly extended to include over 30 years of previously hidden data from NASA, Soviet, and Pentagon missions to the moon with startling results.
Coming up in a moment, Richard C. Hoagland.
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Tonight featuring Coast to Coast AM from November 7th, 2002.
Laura, when you and I last spoke, I was going, oh my God, look at those pictures.
We were looking at actually two sets of pictures, but what flipped it for me was the set of the Russian pictures that you got hold of that confirmed this, to me, what could be nothing other than a city.
And by the way, Richard, since you did that, there are a number of other websites, which I won't name here, which all of a sudden have sprung up.
And they have found other city-like artifacts on Mars at different locations, you know, using the same strip of photography that comes from NASA.
So everybody knows, you go to artbell.com, then you click on program, tonight's guest info, Richard C. Hoagland's name, and here we are, related images number one through 14.
And at the bottom, you'll see the inset with the close-up, and then the comparison to the Reims Cathedral.
And it's the same perspective.
You're looking straight down.
In the Reims shot, you're looking down from a few thousand feet.
It's an aerial photograph taken in Germany somewhere in France, sometime during the, I think, last World War.
And the one at Sidonia was a composite of an image taken or released, you should say, by NASA on the 24th, 25th of July, and then composited with a visual image that we now know was taken March 8th.
And when you put the visual image over the infrared image, what you in essence do is amplify the signal and suppress or average the noise, and you get that result.
And you couldn't get that result unless there was something down there.
This is what is just so mind-boggling, even to me, and I've been at this a long time.
Our alignment data, the geometry that I've been talking about for years, if you stand in the center of the pyramid complex, which is off the frame to the left there, and you look across the face to that linear feature on the other side called the cliff, there's a solstice alignment.
We're going to talk a bit about the solstices later on tonight.
And that alignment says that that thing, whatever was done there, was done in the order of half a million to 300,000 years ago.
Now, the reason that celestial mechanics marker is important is because it's about the only thing that you can absolutely count on about any of this.
astronomy is pretty simple.
Orbital mechanics is really well known.
Newton's laws of gravity and Kepler's laws of motion.
So we're able to track back the history of the planets and how they tilt and wobble and all that.
Or actually, JPL and NASA has done this.
And using their calculations is when, you know, with a little geometry, as I published in the Monuments of Mars, my book, covering all of this investigation for the last 20-some years, we came out with an order of magnitude estimate of a half a million years.
Now, here on Earth, a half a million years ago, there wasn't much going on.
The most advanced guys that we conceive of in the geological record, the fossils that they dig up every now and then, was a primitive, you know, slope-browed guy, gal called Homo erectus.
But what is really fascinating is on the order of 200,000 to 250,000 years ago, there was this remarkable leap forward on Earth.
And even the mainstream anthropologists have discovered this from looking at the taxonomy of the fossils.
But what's really fascinating is that there's a whole other group of scientists, the biologists, actually the chemists/slash biologists, who've been looking at DNA samples from terrestrial races, various groupings around the Earth.
And they came out, a guy named Wilson at the University of California in Berkeley came out in the 1980s with an estimate that all of humankind, all of our lineage, went back to a tiny group of individuals, probably somewhere in Africa, on the order of 250,000 years ago.
So you kind of put these dates all together, and what it says to me is that something extraordinary happened in our own history, and that something may be connected to the simultaneity of the something extraordinary that we're seeing in these pictures from Mars.
Something terrible obviously happened, or they wouldn't be buried, right?
Or they wouldn't be buried.
So something terrible did happen.
In fact, last night, Richard, I had a theoretical physicist/slash astronomer on it's entirely possible, you know, that civilizations don't last very long anyway, any of them.
That eventually they all get hit by something and what you see here on these photographs, if it's real, if these really are cities, then that's what happens.
If this catastrophic event occurred at minimum, say, 300,000 years ago, how were they able to get anybody off planet and to Earth, which is what you've been talking around for a while now, 50,000 years later?
Nevertheless, a good photograph, and the similarity between the two is so startling and so remarkable that if you aren't along for this ride, then you're not watching.
Now, I mean, we've had incredible reaction to the show that we did when we debuted all this stuff back in, what was this, September?
Right.
And a lot of it has been negative.
I mean, everything in the kitchen sink has been thrown at us from accusing us of hoaxing the images to accusing Keith Laney of hoaxing the images or being a damn fool and doing it by mistake and, you know, creating something wondrous and extraordinary, to accusing NASA or some other agency of hoaxing the image and trying to basically put it out to discredit us, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.
But the bottom line is none of the naysayers have been able to come up with a foolproof method of duplicating what we've got.
And when you can take two totally disparate data sets, meaning the infrared data and the visual data, taken at different times and superimpose them and come up with buildings.
I mean, look at that close-up of that thing at the bottom.
That's a damn building.
With perspective and I mean, when I first created this, you know, in the image program that we were working with back in, I think it was August, I could not believe myself what I was seeing.
It was just too extraordinary after all these years to have this kind of independent evidence.
And then, of course, the question is, well, if it isn't hoaxed, if we weren't slip something to basically be a ringer, to do us in credibility-wise, where did it come from?
And what we're going to track through tonight is we think we have now figured out where this image came from and what it really represents as a portent to getting a lot more.
Anyway, that's kind of prologue.
So let's now go back to image number two, if you want.
If you look at the left in the upper middle of the left image, track right across on a line right across to the same position in the image on the right.
So what I've started, and we were going to publish this on the Enterprise site probably tomorrow evening, and we hope to have it ready by tonight.
And there was just too much science to do and too many calculations and diagrams and all that.
We're going to publish in written form the story we're going to go through this evening as to why this image is both real and not real at the same time.
lie well until we go through some of the data i can answer that because you're not gonna understand or believe it until we get to the mcguffin is that which got used to say to see what's on the image because there's some really cool stuff on this image even though it has been
On the right-hand image, there's almost what looks like a hole, but with the fact that it's an infrared night shot, and I know that the heat signature shows up as brighter.
You know no matter what you believe about all of this if you'll just take a moment go to your computer go to artbell.com program tonight's guest info and look at picture number one beneath Richard Hoagland's name.
Picture number one is actually several photographs.
The two most important in my mind, the top two.
On the left, a very nice, clear photograph of downtown Cairo, Egypt, from the air.
And then on the right, the photograph taken by the spacecraft, the IR photograph, of what apparently sits beneath the sand on Mars.
Now, how could anybody, anybody deny that what we're looking at is a city?
So that means 250,000 or 300,000 or 500,000 years ago, there was a city on Mars.
It was above ground.
It was bustling.
It was full of people.
And that may have been all over the planet.
Not just at Cydonia, but it may have been all over the planet.
very likely was and then And then something terrible happened.
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I mean, isn't it astonishing that you'd make a slip like that because that's what you would think?
And, you know, I mean, what's wrong when our own agency is the agency we find, and again, I want to specify we're not talking the entire agency, we're talking about a group of individuals within it that are able to control the policy, the dialogue, and that everybody else kind of either doesn't know what's going on or they just do know what's going on.
Be careful before you leap off this Martian cliff.
So what we have here is unequivocal proof.
If you go back and look at the double image, the first one or the second one that we had up, at the top you'll see there is more stuff there, and there's no way that's just image processing.
It's another image.
So that being the case, then the question you have to ask yourself is, well, where does it come from?
Without building the foundation, as the lawyers love to say, you know, I can't give you a simple answer because there is no simple answer.
I mean, the simplest answer is they're trying to delay the inevitable, which is the admission by this agency and this government that the human race is not and has not been alone.
That there is stuff in the other parts of the solar system.
And for God's sake, maybe we're part of the stuff.
Maybe it's part of our own history, which would be an incredible incendiary bomb in the heart of the body politics.
Remember, this official report that we found many years ago, which was published in 1961, commissioned in 1969, which basically said, to paraphrase Oh, who's that actor?
Basically, it was a big study to find out what the institutions, the religious institutions, what America would think if contact was suddenly revealed.
I mean, I worked with Margaret Mead at the American Museum of Natural History at the Haven Planetarium in New York.
We had some wonderful spirited conversations before she passed from this mortal coil.
And her biggest fear was that if we were confronted with implacable evidence of an advanced extraterrestrial society, even in the form of ruins nearby with libraries that we could read someday,
that as a scientist, it would so impugn the concept of progress in the Western tradition, that tomorrow we'll learn more than we know today, and the day after tomorrow we'll know more, because suddenly it would lay out a million years of science and history and experience that we have not had yet, and that a lot of folks would just say, oh, shocks, and give up.
I'm curious, Richard, if you had the opportunity to be excavating one of these cities that we see on Mars, and you got in and you found a library, and the writing on the walls and the pillars and inside in the books or whatever it is they had that passed for books, all looked vaguely Egyptian to you.
In fact, there's a hell of a good series called Stargate, which I've been following religiously ever since I realized that they were trying to tell us some very interesting stuff.
Just kind of watch that series.
And Sci-Fi is reprising the entire three or four years of it now on Sci-Fi on Monday evenings.
They sponsored a press conference at the National Press Club the other day, and one of their key people was none other than John Podesta, who was the former chief of staff in the Clinton White House.
The events of a couple days ago, the national election, where basically they cleaned the table, have freed up a lot of energy now to move forward on the disclosure front.
And he said that in the next few months, we should see some pretty remarkable things.
And if we do not, then there should be hell to pay on the part of people demanding that they finally get off the nonsense of hiding stuff, losing it in a drawer, letting it fall behind the couch, having the dog eat it, et cetera, et cetera.
When you consider revelations of the past, a lot of times your thinking would be it'll be a Democrat administration that will release this kind of shocking news, or that would be likely to release this kind of news, versus a conservative one.
But the fact of the matter is, most times with surprising revelations from our government, they've come from the exact opposite administration that you would expect them to come from.
And generally, they come when that administration is very, very strong.
So, I can see the logic of this, given that they now control both houses, given that there is a real determination to do things differently, and we've seen evidence that they're doing things differently, and there is a clock ticking.
Remember, we have been following what I call the ritual clock, that there has to be, in the unfolding decade of this new century, there has to be a timed release of stuff if we're to arrive at a watershed circa 2012, which is where the clock is counting down to.
Now, Chris Carter in his last X-Files episode claimed that's when open contact is established.
Given that the contact will probably come from members of our own family, meaning blood relations out there among the stars and planets, if the ruins we're looking at on Mars are what I think they are, I could see that there has to be foreshadowing, there has to be foundation laid, there has to be general cultural awareness of the possibility, otherwise there would be one hell of a shock.
I can understand that if ships were to begin to land in our biggest cities all around the world, there would be panic on a level that would be unacceptable.
Just about everybody who thought about it would think it would be unacceptable.
On the other hand, if news of an ancient civilization a half million years ago that existed on Mars were suddenly to come to light, shocking and interesting and fascinating and intriguing and thought-provoking as that might be, there's nothing particularly threatening about a bunch of skeletons on Mars.
It's only threatening when we go, open the door, and believe me, it's not going to be inscriptions on the wall.
It's going to be something extraordinarily sophisticated.
Because remember, if we're looking at something real here, it's incredibly high-tech.
It's not like Sumer.
It's not like Egypt.
Those are pale copies.
Those are echoes down through time by humans, by terrestrials on this planet, who were mimicking through myths and legends and their architecture the wonders and the fabulous nature of what they'd heard about.
Or maybe even seen an archive picture buried somewhere here on Earth.
Because you can imagine if folks did come here en masse, you know, half a million years ago or 300,000, they would have left a lot of stuff.
And it would have been high-tech stuff that would have been pretty resistant to time and change and enterprise.
I have this vision of a warehouse like that with all the good stuff kept from us because of Brookings type thinking on the part of a small custodian of guys, self-appointed, who basically think they're the keepers of what we can and cannot know.
I had a guy show up at one of my conferences who claimed that he was Robert Oppenheimer's nephew.
And he told me flat out that in 1987, they brought something out in a C-130 that they found behind the walls off the passage leading to the Queen's Chamber in the Great Pyramid.
But I do know that we independently were looking into interesting weirdness that went on in 1987 around the Great Pyramid and the Japanese discovery with gravimeters of strange rooms, hidden rooms behind that passage down to the Queen's Chamber.
And we do know that they actually drill through those walls into those rooms.
And I was told by friends of mine at the Smithsonian that some very interesting stuff was shipped to Washington.
Of course, when we try to track it down in the public archive, the kind of records, bills of waiting, and all that, not a trace.
But a very well-known archaeologist from Egypt stood up in an open meeting of archaeologists in Tennessee in that timeframe, witnessed by a very well-known American archaeologist whose name, oddly enough, is Gypsy Graves.
An archaeologist with a last name Graves, yes, Cariel.
And she lives in Florida, and she is a wonderful individual.
She led the first woman team of archaeologists in the 80s that the Egyptian government, Zahi, permitted to actually dig on and around the plateau.
A big warehouse somewhere with all of those artifacts, many of them with Egyptian-like writings on them, no doubt.
Tightly guarded.
No doubt.
I think it could be.
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Let me finish, if I can, that little story about the Great Pyramid, because it does bear on the rest of what we want to talk about.
Sure.
My friend Gypsy Graves was in this meeting in Tennessee in late 80s, 87, 88, somewhere around there.
And she reported that one of the archaeologists from the Council of Antiquities from Egypt was making a presentation.
And he talked about them officially drilling into the side wall of the passage that goes to the Queen's Chamber, which is the lower chamber of the Great Pyramid.
This was a wall that the Japanese a year or so before in 86 had found readings from gravimeters.
These are gadgets that basically measure slight gravity variations.
And they found what they thought were hollows behind the walls.
Because if you've got an empty room, you know, it's going to have less mass and therefore less gravity than if it's full masonry all the way out to the edge of the pyramid.
When they drilled in, according to this archaeologist from Egypt that my friend heard in this major meeting, she wasn't the only one there, but she's the only one I know, she said that he said they found sand.
Well, now sand is very interesting because sand makes one heck of a shock absorber.
If you want to put something valuable in a room and keep it safe from earthquakes for thousands of years, if you don't have that stupid popcorn that comes in every package these days and winds up spilling all over the floor, you would pack it in sand.
Because sand, I mean, sand is used, for instance, in road barriers.
Those big yellow buckets at exits and bridges, where if you swirl off the road, if you had too much to drink, you crash into the barrier.
They break.
They also use water.
And the idea is the momentum is transferred to the water or the sand.
It goes flying up into the air.
Your car is cushioned and you wind up surviving what could be a fatal head-on crash.
So sand is a good protector in earthquakes.
So when the sand started coming out, they apparently captured some of it and they took it to the lab for analysis.
And he reported, this is again an archaeologist from the Council of Antiquities reporting at an official meeting in Tennessee in 1987 that the sand was, in his words, highly radioactive.
No, this was something significant, but I just had the feeling, and she did too, that the way he said it, that it was anomalously high as opposed to dangerously high.
Okay.
But even so, it don't belong there, and it certainly shouldn't be radioactive.
So, I mean, there's a whole story that goes along with this, which I'm going to put in the new book.
But the bottom line is that I think that whoever built the pyramid concealed something in those rooms.
So later, I had people, other people from Sedona who used to do tours to Egypt every year.
And they were able to get into the pyramid by seducing their keeper away for an afternoon.
And they bribed the guards, and they got in.
And one of them actually took pictures.
And they reported back to me that what they found was a huge replastered area in the Queen's chamber on the wall that was around the corner from where the holes were drilled in the passage.
Like something big had been taken out and they'd replastered the wall.
Furthermore, they found up in the Grand Gallery, which is this sloping 26-degree seven-corbled stair-step vault inside the pyramid, you know, incredible feat of engineering and artistry, which is directly above, the end of the Grand Gallery is directly above the Queen's Chamber.
They found and photographed very large steel bracings.
Like someone had put these massive steel bracings to keep it from falling down as someone was jackhammering in to the pyramid in the bottom underneath in the Queen's Chamber.
And this was the time when there was a bunch of Americans that went there and used some high technology to excavate the solar boat pit outside the pyramid.
There are two solar boat pits, huge wooden boats, that were literally buried.
They were taken apart carefully and buried in pieces.
And the standard Egyptological theory is that they were for the Pharaoh, you know, his solar boat that would be symbolically reassembled in his afterlife, and he would use it to sail across the sky.
But as a matter of fact, that the pyramids were there when the Egyptians as a culture formed, and they just inherited them, which is perfectly fine.
You know, because the stuff we're talking about, let me finish the story and then we'll get on with Mars.
The interesting thing about all this is that these people, separate people, not knowing each other, would come and tell me this stuff.
And I tried to get the photographs from the Sedona group.
And when they heard what I wanted to do with them, this woman freaked out, refused to let me have them because she said that it would upset American-Egyptian relations and it would basically show that they were covering up extraordinary stuff.
Well, but that's what truth tends to do sometimes.
The key thing is that you've got the Japanese in 86 finding the chambers by gravity meters.
You've got the drilling in 86-87, the radioactive sand from an Egyptian representative at official scientific meeting.
Late in 87, you've got my guys go there and see evidence of some huge excavation, probably with jackhammers.
That's why the Grand Gallery was braced, because there'd be incredible vibration directly up through the pyramid into the Grand Gallery.
And then, at the end of 87, at this conference in L.A., you've got a guy comes up to me out of nowhere, claiming to be the nephew of Robert Oppenheimer, and he says that there was something taken out of the pyramid in 87, put on a C-130, and spirited out to Wright Path.
I mean, I've tried, you know, I was actually signing books, and I was like in the middle of a whole bunch of people, and I couldn't just say, you know, I'll forget about you, and I'm going to run after this guy.
I want him to hang around.
I said, let's have lunch, you know.
It was just one of those things where he just stopped by to tell me something, and, of course, he had no way of knowing all of the things that I've been working on.
Anyway, the bottom line is that the Great Pyramid is an extraordinary masterpiece of architecture and art.
I don't think that, quote, primitives did it.
I think it was extraordinarily sophisticated engineering, and I'm not alone in that.
And there's a lot of other evidence indicating that something radioactive may have been inside, possibly as a power source, possibly something as primitive.
You begin to get the feeling that maybe the Casey Foundation knows more and is not telling as much as it should?
Because they have put these two key keepers of the old guard in their key positions?
Anyway, just a thought.
So Lehner does some brilliant work in his Ph.D. climb in Jerusalem, where he's able to date an old wall by the radiocarbon dating of the mortar in the wall.
You can't date rock or stone, but you can date the mortar because the mortar has the straw.
And when you basically cut down the wheat, anything biological will have a radiocarbon content.
And we won't go into how you measure the clock, but there's a way to do that.
And it's very well tested.
So Blenha was able to come up with a date, a pretty good date for this wall in Jerusalem.
Then he got the bright idea, still while he was under the influence of the Casey people, to go to Egypt and to collect samples of mortar from the Great Pyramid.
And he had the most modern technique, because there used to be an old-fashioned technique where it took many, many ounces or at least a few grams.
There's a new technique using atomic accelerators that basically bombards the carbon with a proton beam and creates radioactive daughter products that they then measure that will give you, through a calculation, the amount of carbon and carbon-14 that was in the original sample.
And for that, you only need like a millionth of a gram.
Ah, the two studies that resulted were that in his spiral path of samples from the bottom to the top, the samples taken from the top were literally a thousand years older than the samples at the bottom.
And that's where the whole idea of pharaohs and afterlife and flying to the stars and all that came from, because it's, again, a warped version of the real physics of real stuff.
The other thing has to do with where it sits on the Earth.
The pyramid is precisely, well, within a few arc minutes, of 30 degrees north.
There's a whole bunch of pyramids around the Earth that all, curiously, are at 30 degrees north.
30 degrees is a key hyperdimensional angle.
If you're on a rotating planet and it's spinning and it's got mass and you don't want it to tip over.
I think the pyramid was an effort by the last epoch of high civilization, the same folks that left this stuff off Cuba to keep the damn planet from tipping over.
Their archaeological digs are now digging up gigantic feeding facilities and kitchens and, you know, the kind of logistics that would have been required for an enormous working force, Richard.
Surely something did, something awful happen to the Martians.
I think that's clear when you look at these photographs of what was.
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If you'll go to the Drudge site, you'll see that Drudge has picked up our story, our photographs, the C-130 photographs that I referenced at the beginning of the program, and Drudge has put a link to my site and those photographs.
So it looks like for the first time in all known history, I may have eclipsed Drudge a little bit.
So thanks for picking it up, Matt.
He's got a link back to our photographs, the ones of the C-130s and the Al-Qaeda in Transport that I referenced at the beginning of the program.
Richard C. Hoagland, back in a moment.
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What it would do if it literally was altered by its presence in the hyperdimensional machine known as the pyramid, it becomes a kind of a little mini gate of its own.
And one of the things that we know about the hyperdimensional physics is that it changes radioactive decay constants.
But radioactive materials are not immutable.
They do not have an immutable half-life.
The half-life can change depending on the physics, depending upon the hyperdimensional environment in which they are.
Since the pyramid was this massive machine that was literally connecting itself to hyperspace when it was energized, all the stuff in it, all the limestone, particularly the limestone that was part of the piece that Larry brought back, which was from those bags that were brought down from the fever?
And when you bring them close to a radioactive source, what it would do would be to increase the natural radioactive rate, which means the radium, I forget what the half-life of radium is, but it's a certain number of atoms per minute that produce the little glow of the phosphorescent paint.
If they were to be increased, in other words, the number of fissions were to increase significantly because of proximity to this little piece of hyperdimensional tunneling, then the radioactive rate would go up, the phosphor would be bombarded greater, the light would become greater, and I would not do this for a long period of time, Art.
Well, but I think that's a political position, because remember, if you've experimented with pieces, you know, with watches and radioactive stuff, he's had access to all this for decades.
You don't imagine that he hasn't been listening to the show.
Given that this stuff's been sitting there, you know, available to tourists and anybody else for literally thousands of years, the idea that the keeper of the flame in the 21st century would be building a wall to guard access to the pyramids, what more can happen to them?
Well, we're getting close to that magic date of 2012.
And as I said, one of the models is that that's the year we make contact.
Another model is that that's the year when they finally admit what you and I are discussing right now: namely, that we're a lot older and a lot more extraordinary than we think, and we have much deeper roots in time and space and history than anybody has dared to believe.
And I would say that while that would shake up a lot of people, I think the world would probably be able to live with it.
I mean, it's an ancient, dead civilization.
Yes, it will cause us to have discussions about our own roots, but it's not going to tear society into little pieces knowing that something half a million years old and dead is on Mars.
If we had evidence of a city on Mars or libraries that we could go and visit, we'd be screaming from the top of the building here in Houston for all to hear that we need the money for a manned mission to Mars to go read what's in the libraries.
Which helps me from keeping them from breaking in?
I mean, they are constantly trying to break into this poor little computer, whoever they are, and they just can't do it because it keeps knocking it off the air.
Well, what you're going to see when it comes up, and for people who actually have been able to get it downloaded, it's a composite of three images.
The two top images are black and white on the left and a color version on the right of a nighttime infrared that was taken on March 21st of this year, released in October in the PDS data dump that we were all anticipating.
And it was the closest nighttime image to Sidonia until Gorlick, Banff, whatever his real name is, released the image on the 31st, claiming that was the nighttime IR he had taken on the 24th of October.
Oh, yeah, green and blue and purplish and all that.
Those are from three bands.
I think it's band 4, band 9, and band 10, I believe.
At the bottom is the purported nighttime IR.
And the first thing you've got to know is that the image taken on the left, the top black image, black and white, was taken on March 21, which is just about the dead of Martian winter.
It was taken only 100 miles away from Sidonia.
So it's the same geology, same geography.
If you look at the bottom image, that's the one that was supposedly taken at the height of summer.
October 24th turns out to be just after the summer solstice in the northern hemisphere.
Totally we get the solstice in the meaning the first day of summer.
The lower green line is the winter solstice sunset.
So as on Earth, if you sit as I do here in the wonderful New Mexico desert and watch sunsets out my windows, you can see the sun tracks back and forth along the horizon as the year progresses.
Why would they conceal that they had taken the picture then?
Well, for one thing, in January, what was NASA doing with the Odyssey mission?
They weren't even in the right orbit yet to begin their formal mapping.
They were doing, and there's some linked releases from JPL that are going to be in our story tomorrow evening.
They were talking about tweaking the orbit, doing little burns here, doing little burns there, circularizing, adjusting, et cetera, et cetera.
That's when they took this image.
In other words, the first thing NASA did when it got to Mars, and after the arrow breaking, it took these pictures of Sidonia and then lied to us about it.
It didn't admit it.
It stuck a guy named Bamp slash Gorlick over at Enterprise claiming that they couldn't take any pictures in the infrared in the night because it was too cold.
And again, for those of you that are even the hard-bitten skeptics out there, go and look at photograph number one on Richard's site, particularly the one on the right, and tell me that he hasn't got something.
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Of course, if we ever did get to Mars, we might be able to get a sample of some DNA from something or another, and you've got to wonder what kind of comparison there'd be between Martian DNA and human DNA, don't you?
And lo and behold, image number three, there is the face.
Right.
And it doesn't look like a face, which you would not expect it to, because that's a visual representation of lights and shadows, reflection, and all that.
Well, what it's telling me is that the big test that we've all wanted for years, if we ever got this technology, would be is the face just like any other Mesa on Mars?
Or does it have anomalous thermal properties?
What would give something anomalous thermal properties?
And at night they release it into the house and you keep your house warm with stored solar heat.
Same theory is functioning with these images.
The bright stuff is heat being radiated back into space at night after being stored during the day.
The fact that the face compared to the next closest object is so dark, it's almost ambient, it's almost background, indicates to me that it cools off too quick.
In other words, if it's sitting there as an exposed mesa made of rock, exposed to sunlight all day, you'd expect it to be warm.
And you'd expect to see it warm all over in a roughly same configuration that we see it.
We're literally looking at the beams and cross-bracing of the rectangular box.
And the thing we see as the face is the surface covering.
This is the most interesting evidence that this thing is an artificial, non-natural, non-rocky structure.
And that's what would have been worth hiding from January to October of 2002.
Because if they found this out, and I presume the original image was a hell of a lot better than the one we're seeing, because there's so much noise in this, and the noise, of course, would have been to drown out the other stuff, the underground stuff.
If you, well, we won't go back, but if you look carefully at the other images, you'll see hints of the underground structures that had on the other.
Let's go ahead.
Let's go to image number 13.
What we did is we looked at some other mesas around the Sidonia plane.
This is one to the south of the face.
The bottom image is the daytime.
Looks like a little normal kind of weird little mesa, right?
It looks like what it might be if this was another eroded arcology art with walls, which is where the massive bracing would be contained.
And the interior was hollow, and it had been basically filled with light, fluffy stuff, Martian dust and dirt, which of course has very low thermal conductivity and would store no energy at all.
And we saw a very similar image from the Hidaspis Chaos region back in March when they held their first press conference.
We had this series of structures, and in the paper we'll have the comparison, where you have these incredible mesas that were dark on the interior and they had brilliant geometric edges.
By the way, look where the brightest parts of the walls are facing.
They're facing south, the bottom of the image.
They're not facing west.
That means that whatever that stuff is made of is holding and radiating a lot of heat from the dawn, which is on the right-hand side.
You know the Richard, why would it be that the good guys at NASA, the ones that you say are the majority, wouldn't be looking at these photographs in the same way that you have?
I mean, a large number of them.
They're concerned with this.
It's their interest.
It's what they do.
Why wouldn't they look at it with the same interest and questions that you have?
Well, this is going to sound really awful, Art, but I can't.
Because literally, just before airtime, I got this phone call, and part of it had to do with ongoing negotiations with the Russians to get us the data we've been asking.
And so rather than, as you know, diplomacy is best conducted quietly, certainly not in front of 20 million people.
Because some of those people are not our friends, and they will run and tattle and try to keep everything from happening that should be happening.
That's part of why I think I've got the phone call.
And the other, let me go back to the image for one second and then we can get on to the political aspect as to what people can do to help with all this.
Because the reason I keep coming on and doing your show, besides, you know, you're a hell of a nice guy, is that there's a lot of people out there who really deserve to know what's going on, who we are, where we've come from, and I'm frankly very bad and upset that this keeps being hidden from them, and they keep being lied to and whippersnapped and snookered in every fashion possible down to something as stupid as when a picture was taken.
Given the big picture, Brookings, the way governments operate, the way control groups who love power and love to sit on it and use it for their own purposes operate, did we ever imagine it would be anything else but?
And the only thing that's going to change it is getting a lot of people involved.
Well, let me go back to the image for a second.
This last image.
If you scroll up to the top, the two color views, the one on the left is the purported July 24th image, which is noisy as hell.
The one on the right is the DNM pyramid in close-up from our leaked image that was given to Keith Laney somehow the night of the 25th.
What I found, and Kane Laney found, and a bunch of other people have found, is a remarkable similarity between the bottom image, which is ostensibly nighttime IR, and the top-right image.
And what I think they did is they snuck in early, before any scientists or press were watching, and they took a bunch of pictures of Sidonia.
Visible, infrared, color, you name it.
They shot the hell out of the place.
They then waited in the mapping mission for their next opportunity and took more, and then more.
And the reason you would do this is because you would want a sequence of images as the temperatures went from deep winter to spring to summer.
And you would see the change in thermal conductivity.
You'd be able to see if there was anybody home down there, if the lights were on.
Look at the DNM.
If this image was taken when we now have calculated January of 2002, look at how bright it is compared to the other stuff I've shown you.
Clearly.
This is not just absorbed solar heat.
It appears to be something inside still powering this structure.
The same way art, that little piece of the great pyramid, when you brought it close to a radioactive source, was able to trigger a massive radioactive reaction.
And this physics and technology, which should be the heir of all mankind, is being kept in a drawer for a few, and frankly, I've had enough of it.
And in the next half hour, I want to outline a strategy for getting to the bottom and getting the truth.
This is, by the way, completely independent from the Mayan calendar.
What really astonished me is when we were working on this stuff, you know, beginning a couple three years ago, and we figured out that there was this clock tied to the positions of the Earth and the constellation of Tanis Major and the star Sirius and Egypt and all that.
It was completely separate from the Mayan calendar.
But it has the same basis in real celestial geometry.
In other words, it isn't an accident that that date is an important date, because it has to do with lineups between where the Earth is, where the Sun is, and where certain parts of the galaxy are.
And if this is being paced by a larger aspect of this physics I keep talking about, then those celestial relationships are going to have to be important.
Well, look, we have reached a watershed, I think, with this new data.
We have proven now overwhelmingly that they are lying and lying and lying.
And when you look at the details of this imagery tonight, it's obvious what they're lying about.
They're trying to delay the inevitable, which I believe is, you know, that overworked D-word disclosure.
The problem is, do we want it on their terms or our terms?
I have spent about 20 years, a generation, working at this.
And I've not done it alone.
I've had a lot of very important help, both technical and people, extraordinary people, for instance, from your audience.
And I want to really thank an awful lot of people who have stepped up to the plate and sent us $5 or $10 or $20 or even those stunningly shocking $1,000 checks that occasionally come in for people who believe, as I do, that the American system is at stake.
If we really believe in representative government, then we have to demand accountability.
We have to demand that people tell us the truth on something certainly as important as the past and future of all mankind.
And of course we need help.
Because what we need to do, beginning at the turn of the year, is launch an extraordinary new political campaign.
We've just been through an election where the Republicans won and the Democrats didn't because basically the Republicans outspent them.
And they spent in the right way and they spent in the right places and they had the right message.
Well, we've got the right message.
We know where to put the pressure.
We just don't have the funds to put the pressure where it needs to be.
Second, everybody can go and get a copy of the Monuments of Mars.
I predicted in the fifth edition, in the foreword that I wrote, exactly what we are seeing in this nighttime IR image.
A stunningly different face, thermally anomalous from its surroundings, from its background, from its terrain, indicating overwhelmingly that it's got to be made of something weird.
It's not rock.
And the likelihood is it's made of artificial stuff.
Number three, what people can do is to actually just send money.
You know, I have that old joke about, you know, what can you do?
Well, just send money.
$5, $10, whatever.
Send it to the Enterprise Mission at P.O. Box 3550.
Edgewood, New Mexico, 87015.
That's P.O. Box 3550, Edgewood, New Mexico, 87015.
And if you didn't write that down, it's on the website, which takes me to the third thing, or is the fourth thing you can do.
Keith Rowland, who is soon to be the ex-webmaster of the Art Bell Show, because art is walking off into the sunset for a while, and I have gone into an interesting co-venture.
Keith is Scotty again.
He is the masterful engineer of the Good Ship Enterprise.
And he is running the first paid conference that I know of probably in web history.
We've had enough of the trolls and the agents and the provocateurs and the disinfo artists and all that.
So what we did is we moved our website and we set up the conference under Scotty's Able Stewardship.
And for a lousy $4 a month, you can help enterprise and join the political campaign.
Because in that conference, which is really becoming more of a think tank, we are going to hammer out a strategy and then launch it beginning next year In January, and I will come on the show and explain exactly what we're doing, but this is where we're putting together various representatives that are going to have a major, major difference in the months and years ahead.
It has a two-meter color camera art, not under the control of NASA.
So as part of this conference, we have found someone who is willing to be our representative, carry our message to the appropriate European scientists and project officials, and you will find out what happens by being part of this conference.
And you do that by going to Enterprise and clicking on the Enterprise.
Yes, I had a question about the radiation within the pyramids.
Sure.
With tourists being able to travel there, the exposure elements of that, if it's such a secret, what kind of weaponry, could it be used for weaponry of mass destruction?
But my problem is if they're going to go to the moon and into close orbit and take pictures of things that are not on the timetable, we'll never get to see those pictures.
Given how much noise in the image, Gary, I don't know yet.
And I think that's why we have to force politically more images out.
We've got to get with allies that can help us.
I mean, obviously, this BAMP character who's leaking this stuff on a website that he controls, he's hoping that someone will be smart enough to figure it out and exert the proper pressure.
One of the key things that happened, Art, the other night with the Republican sweep, our old friend John McCain is back in the saddle.
He will become chairman of the Commerce Committee in the Senate, which controls the NASA budget.
And John McCain is a friend of everyone out there.
He's the one who went to bat for us a couple of years ago to get all those images out of Malin's secret archives.
We need the resources, as in any political campaign, to go to Washington, to brief Senator McCain, or go to Arizona, whichever is closer.
In other words, we've got to think of this now as a political, we're within sight of the goal, and we've got to cross the goal line, and we need the real help of everybody to do it because we've got the goods.
We have the goods tonight.
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Indeed, and the Martian Revelation, you know, here in Central East Florida is, you know, here to help do that.
And thank you, Richard, for your support.
And, Art, it's certainly nice talking to you again.
Your little problem with a little item that Major Ed Dames has been talking about in art, our little mysterious Planet X. It's coming through next year.
And the big announcement, the big coming closest, changing paradigms next spring could be that that's part of the calendrical revelation dates, and something big may break with a little help from our friends to force this out of the closet.
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Well, let's just say last March I saw a rather bright star in the area of Orion, Gemini, and Sagittarius B. According to Sitchin, that's where it's supposed to show up at, and it has.
Well, if you want to buy a copy of the book, which I offered to sign for those people that are lining up to be extras in our film, and the next time I'm on art, I'll give you a very important update on how the movie is coming.