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July 11, 2002 - Art Bell

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Coast to Coast AM with Art Bell - Warren Faidley - Weather Photography, Storm Chaser. Stephanie - Psychic Visitations

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art bell ▲ ● ▼		From the high desert and the great American Southwest WWE good evening, good morning, good afternoon, whatever the case might be, wherever you are in the world, and we cover most of it one way or the other.
		This, of course, is Coast to Coast A.M., and I'm Mark Bell.
		Now, the news round everywhere else is lousy.
		The wildfire in Colorado today raced across 7,000 acres.
		By evening, the fire was burned across an estimated 120,000 acres of wooded hills southwest of Denver fires.
		Burning in Alaska, Arizona, California, Colorado, New Mexico, Wyoming, and Utah have charred nearly 1.5 million acres of tinder-dry forest and brush.
		Well, that's because the weather is changing.
		You see.
		Earlier, I got an email from a young lady, Stephanie.
		I won't give her last name right now.
		In New York.
		That reads, I'm 36 years old.
		I'm the mother of two children, ages 14 and 7.
		Two nights ago.
		My seven-year-old daughter awoke horrified.
		She told me she had seen three aliens, small, like children, flying around the room.
		They were green, had several eyes, and winged-like with big heads.
		Our cat, Boo, was in the room going nuts.
		He was jumping up and down from the bunk bed to the floor.
		She said that he was scratching one of these aliens.
		The cat was.
		Then when he scratched it, they all disappeared.
		There wasn't any blood stains on the bedroom walls.
		There is, though, a brownish-like something or another that feels slimy.
		And it just goes on and on.
		And she gives her phone number.
unidentified		And so this is pretty weird stuff.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And I thought that I would bring Stephanie on the line tonight and get the rest of the story, as Paul would say.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Stephanie, welcome to the program.
unidentified		Oh, hi, Aud.
unidentified		Thank you so much for allowing me to tell my story.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, you're very welcome.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Boy, can I hear the New York in you?
unidentified		I know.
		I have a Brooklyn accent.
		I was from Brooklyn and now I moved to Staten Island.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So, Stephanie, what is going on there?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, I just read a little bit, but this has been going on how long?
unidentified		Well, I don't know where you want me to begin.
		I could begin when I was 15, when things started, strange things started happening to me.
		You know, I could tell you the whole story, or you want to hear what happened two nights ago?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, some of the early stuff.
unidentified		Okay, all right.
		About age 15, I had bought a Ouija board, and at the time I was not aware of the dangers of using one.
		And I used to play with it just for fun.
		And I had that Ouija board in the house.
		Very strange things started happening to me.
		For example, I used to sleep on a canopy bed.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		And the canopy top would start blowing with all the windows shut.
		It would just blow.
		And one incident in particular that scared me to death was I felt a strange presence in my room.
		And it was very scary.
		I jumped out of my bed, and I put the light on, and I looked at my hands.
		And on one of my hands was written what looked like ash.
		In ash, it was written.
		The name of a woman, Anna Brighenham, it said.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Give me that name again, Anna.
unidentified		Anna, I think it was B-R-R-G-A-N-H-A-M.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And that was written on your hand?
unidentified		Right.
unidentified		It was sort of like in an ash, like a smoky ash.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		A smoky ash, okay?
unidentified		And then I ran into my mother's bedroom, which was next door, and I woke her up screaming, and then I opened the light in her room, and then the writing transferred from my hand to her wall.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The writing went from your hand to her wall.
unidentified		Right.
		And she got out of her bed.
		We both could not believe what we had seen, and the name Anna Bringenhan was written on the wall.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, my God.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What did your mother say about this?
unidentified		She was petrified.
		And, you know, a lot of things that happened where, like, we had found a statue once.
		It was like an Indian warrior statue, and it had red ruby eyes.
		And one night the eyes started to glow so bright as the flames were coming out of his eyes on the wall.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		And I just felt there was like an evil spirit in the statue.
unidentified		And then on a few other occasions, I was scared to death, so we just, we threw it out, not in front of our building, but we walked a few blocks down, you know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're now 36 years old, huh?
unidentified		Right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're a mom, yourself.
unidentified		Right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You've got a couple kids, 14 and 7.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And whatever this is, has it gone away, Steph, for long periods of time, or has it always been with you, occurring every now and then?
unidentified		It's always been with me.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Always, huh?
unidentified		And I always have psychic dreams.
		You know, like I have premonitions, like I was in a bad accident when I was 19.
		And I had dreamt the dream exactly the way it was going to happen, like a month before it happened.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Really?
unidentified		And the policeman had said that they thought that we had died in the wrecked.
		The wrecked car was so bad.
		And in my dream, I was instructed how to open up the car door.
		Everyone was unconscious except me.
		And I pulled my friend out and my boyfriend at the time, the two boys were in the front.
		He went through the windshields.
		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You see, I'm already sitting here at this point listening to your story, you know, thinking this girl opened a door back when she was 15 and some sort of evil spirit came through.
unidentified		Yeah, I became a warning and Christian at 19.
		So I got rid of that Ouija boy.
		I mean, I would never play with something like that again.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I know, but when a door is open, someone comes through, and you close the door, all you do is lock it in sometimes.
		And so I was thinking, here's some sort of evil spirit, perhaps, frankly, inhabiting you.
		But now you're telling me that at one point it or something warned you of how to escape an otherwise fatal accident.
unidentified		I don't know what it is.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, exactly.
unidentified		evil and an angel and an evil spirit.
		I don't know mixed up there.
		Maybe.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Two nights ago, what happened in your home?
unidentified		Okay, this is pretty scary.
		Okay, it was two days before Father's Day, and my seven and a half-year-old daughter, she woke up, panicked, and she said she saw three small aliens.
		She said they were about like her height, about four feet.
		And the way she described them, they were green, they had horns, they had big yellow eyes with eight fingers, eight toes.
		And she said they had four eyes, the two regular eyes in the middle of the face and one eye on each side of the ears.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Really?
unidentified		And she said they were flying all around the room.
		So our cat Boo, he was in the room and I had noticed he was acting crazy.
		He started jumping up and down on her bunk bed, from her bunk bed to the floor.
		And then his ears went back, which he doesn't do, you know, he don't act like that.
		And he was chasing, like he was chasing something.
		And then she said Boo scratched one of the aliens and then all of them disappeared.
		And then on Father's Day, which was two days later, I put my daughter to bed around 10 o'clock.
		And me and my 14-year-old son decided to go down and watch some TV because we weren't tidy.
		So then we came up around 11.15, went to sleep.
		And in about 10 minutes, my son starts to yell to me that his bed was shaking.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		His bed shaking.
unidentified		Right.
unidentified		It was shaking.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Right out of the exorcist, huh?
unidentified		It's scary.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, and so you went in there?
unidentified		No, actually, I sleep with my children in the same room.
unidentified		My husband deserves another, that's another program.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You should be aware then that the bed's shaking, shouldn't you?
unidentified		Well, it also happened to me.
unidentified		That was one of my other stories was from when I moved here, you know, my bed was shaken too, like two years ago.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How much shaking are we talking about here?
unidentified		This is like, well, what would happen to me, it would shake, I think it was part of a dream.
unidentified		You know, the bed would be shaking.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		And I'm actually like half asleep and half awake.
		But he was awake because he hadn't fallen asleep yet.
		And then he was terrified.
		You know, he's a smart kid, so I know when he's really scared.
		So I try to comfort him, and then we shut the light again.
		I said, maybe it'll go away, you know.
		Then our cat boost starts going crazy again, and he started clawing around the bottom of the bunk bed where my son sleeps.
		And he was going crazy.
		So then my son felt some kind of some hands or something trying to push up his mattress.
		And he felt actually a claw, a giant claw, try to claw him, he said.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		A claw.
unidentified		So then I opened up the light and he's screaming.
		And then I got out my Bible.
		I'm trying to say scriptures and everything.
		I said, in Jesus' name, you have no power here.
		Leave my children alone.
		And I said this a few times.
		I sat on my son's bed saying this and I put the night light on and I left it on all night.
		And then the next day, I see on top of the bunk beds, there's like brownish-red, they're like pointy marks.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Brownish-red, pointy marks on the bunk.
unidentified		Yeah, they're still here.
		No, they're on the wall.
		I see that there's five in all.
		It's funny because five of us live here.
		It's my husband, my mother, me and my two kids, and there's five marks.
		And I thought that was like haw marks?
		You could say that they're like pointy.
		It's sort of like points.
		I don't know.
		It's weird.
		It's kind of weird to explain, though.
		But when I touched it, it's like it feels slimy, like.
		But it's like brownish.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You say it just feels slimy.
		Right.
		Is there actual material that you can see there, or it's only to the touch?
unidentified		I see it.
		I didn't know what it was.
		I saw my mother.
		She was like, she couldn't believe it herself.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So there's some kind of material there then?
unidentified		Yeah, it's five marks.
		It looks like, well, it looks brownish, sort of.
		I'm looking at them now, in fact.
		They're like pointy, you know, on the wall.
		I don't know if it's the blood of the creatures that my cat scratched.
		You know, I don't know.
		I don't know what's going on.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Normally, you see, normally I would beg you for photographs, of course.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But you mentioned in your email that your computer is launched, I guess, huh?
unidentified		I was surprised I even got through to you today.
		You know, I was praying that I'd get through you because someone else is going to think I'm crazy here.
		But I know, you know, I listened to you for the past almost three years.
		You know, so I know your program there.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You know, it sounds like something has.
		There's only two possibilities I can think of.
		One is something has attached itself to you, and it's still there.
		And you're going to have to do something about it.
unidentified		Yeah, I don't know what.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Or it's coming from you.
unidentified		I don't know.
		I don't know.
		I also had a cat, another cat that was 17, and he had died.
		And when he died, he died up in our room here.
		So the night he died, I buried him out in the back.
		And when he died, we were hearing all things up here, like thumping and running around.
		And we were just like scared.
		My kids were clinging to me, very scared to death.
		But I felt it was him, you know, he's coming back to say one last goodbye.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Right.
unidentified		And that happened a few years ago.
		So I don't know, you know, it's a lot, a bunch of different things here.
		So you're scared?
		I'm scared because I'm a Christian.
		I believe we have power over the evil.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, didn't you tell me you just said be gone in the name of Jesus?
unidentified		Well, it still wasn't gone, you know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I get that.
		I get that.
		You really need, I think you need to be in touch with somebody, somebody who can really help you out, somebody.
unidentified		Yeah, I'd be willing to even put a camera in here.
		sometimes they have those things where you could, you know, the cameras see things that you can't see.
		You'd be willing to have cameras, like in you know, to see if there's something in this house because there's a lot of stuff, and then I hear we hear singing sometimes, like little children by the attic.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How frequent is all this going on?
		How frequently?
		An investigator would.
unidentified		It's a lot in the summer months, you know.
unidentified		My daughter, I had gotten her two teletubbies, what was it, last summer, from a yard sale?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		And the teletubbies, in the middle of the night, we hear them singing.
unidentified		They just would start singing.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The teletubbies started singing.
unidentified		By themselves, yeah.
		We were petrified.
		We woke up.
		We were shaken and scared.
		I threw them out.
		I threw them out.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You know, I'll tell you what I'll do, Stephanie.
		I've got your phone number, your personal phone number.
		So if any investigator out there feels like pursuing this with cameras or a team, they're going to need more details.
		And I'll sort of screen them.
		And if they, you know, I'll put you in touch.
unidentified		How's it going?
unidentified		I appreciate it because I would like to, you know, I mean, if there's something here, there's someone who don't, you know, some evil spirit here, I definitely want to get out of this house.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I understand.
		All right.
		Done deal, Stephanie.
unidentified		I appreciate it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, thank you very much.
unidentified		I love your show, and you're doing a great job.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you, and have a good night at a quiet night, I hope.
unidentified		Oh, you're ready to go to sleep.
		That's why I listened to you.
		I'm up all night, you know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, take care, Stephanie.
unidentified		All right, good night.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Good night.
		All right.
		That's Stephanie from New York.
		Yeah, you know, after hearing all of that, and obviously there was more we didn't hear, that's a case I think of.
		I can only consider two possibilities, but, you know, who the hell am I?
		I can only consider that she has allowed something in that is still with her and may always be with her.
		She's echoes of last night's program about the bell witch, huh?
		Or it's coming from her, you know, young teenage girls, boy, again and again and again.
		You hear about these stories, but here it is still with her.
		Here's something that I would like to have you all follow up on for me.
		It comes from a listener in Toledo, Ohio, Maggie.
		Maggie.
		All right, I heard a news story this morning at 8.30 or 9 o'clock on Clear Channel WSPD in Toledo, Ohio about a bottomless pothole in the middle of the street.
		Firefighters put a 1,000-foot line down that hole and didn't hit bottom.
		I only heard part of the story and think they said it was in a place called Washington or Washington Township anyway.
		I think this may be another of the bottomless holes like Mel's.
		Let's do a real quick break.
		Well, I almost did it again.
		I get so involved in what I'm doing that I blow right through breaks.
		I do it all the time.
		Things on my mind.
		My back is, by the way, my back is really giving me fits right now.
		And so I'm doing little back get better knocks on the wood.
		All right, listen, we're going to take the regular network right now, and we'll be back shortly with a couple of more items.
		Boy, there's an awful lot going on out there.
		Can you believe an earthquake on the New Madrid Falls?
		Gordon Michaels said, watch for it.
		I'm Mark Bell, and this from the Left Coast is Coast.
unidentified		We got to get it right back to the top.
		We gotta get right back to where we started from.
		You remember that day, when you first came by.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, here we go into the night.
		There seems to be some dispute.
		By the way, I'm getting word that there is a big UFO flap possibly going on in, I think it was, New Hampshire.
		And maybe my wife will come in.
		I know Peter called just part of the show and said that he couldn't confirm anything yet, but that there was something going on in New Hampshire.
		He's getting some sort of word.
		So consider that one sort of as stand.
		No doubt we'll say before the night is over in the gray box and we'll see what happens.
		West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Good morning.
unidentified		Hi.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi.
unidentified		I just wanted to call and inform you about the bottomless pit in Seattle, Washington, I think it is.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, let's see.
		What did it say?
		Let's see.
		About a bottomless hole in the middle of the street.
		So it didn't say.
unidentified		But, yeah, what about...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
unidentified		Yeah, I heard about it on the radio today.
		But I guess the firefighters or the street people went to go try to fix just what they thought was a hole, and that's when they dropped the rope down, and then it just never ended or never stopped.
		And then they pulled it out.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I'll tell you, there's something about Washington State, isn't there?
unidentified		Yeah, I know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And this bottomless hole stuff.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, how could you...
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, they opened, like, a manhole or something?
unidentified		I don't know.
unidentified		It was like a hole in the street, and then they peeled the road back, and then that's when they realized, like.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, my God, this hole goes down forever.
unidentified		Yeah, and they dropped a brick down it, and you can hear the brick bounce off the walls, but you just never hear it end.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		This is under a street?
unidentified		Uh-huh.
unidentified		So, I would say that it probably disappeared, because I don't see people building a street over a bottomless hole.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I wonder how many Chevys have gone down there.
unidentified		I don't know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Fords.
unidentified		For real.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Geo Metros.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You wouldn't even hear a Geo.
unidentified		For real.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'd go clink once, and that'd be it.
unidentified		All right, well, I appreciate the information.
unidentified		Yep.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, thank you.
		Take care.
		Yeah.
		What is it about the state of Washington and these holes, anyway?
		In the middle of the street.
		Boy, I'll tell you, we live in a time of weird news, don't we?
		Again, the story I have, talking about this fault line, the Evansville earthquake, actually the Midwest earthquake, you ought to call it really, it says Johnston from the U.S. Geological Survey said it was an arm of the New Madrid Fault Zone.
		And then it goes on here to talk about the New Madrid Fault.
		And this is from CNN.com for what it's worth.
		West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Hello.
unidentified		Hi.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi.
unidentified		I'm Eliza, and I'm calling you from KFI 6.40 in Norwalk, out of LA County.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, the point is in the wrong place.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's just 640.
unidentified		Well, just 640.
		Okay.
		You know the gentleman that called last night about the birds dying here in L.A. and everything?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yes, I do.
unidentified		Oh, my gosh.
		We had pigeon in our backyard that was dying and had eventually died.
		And we've had other little birds that have died.
		We've had crows that died here in Norwalk, and there's a little Norwalk.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And plus...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I wonder what the hell's going on now.
unidentified		I don't know that, but you know what else?
		Besides the birds, my cat, she caught a bird this morning.
		And so it's got to have been slow of stealth, you know, for her to catch it.
		And my cat, that's the first bird that she's caught in a long time.
		But I think because my cat's been throwing up, my dogs have been throwing up, I think there's something going on here that they're not telling or doing that they should be doing because the animals are getting sick here.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, you know, when miners used to take canaries down into the mine...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		and the canary dropped dead in its cage, they knew it was time to go.
unidentified		Yeah, so I think I don't know, but it's got to be something.
		But you know what?
		You turned me into that verse recorder.
		I love my verse recorder.
		My next big buy is going to be that telescope.
		I love you, Art.
		You're the best person.
		And even though you keep me up, women stay up anyways.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you for the call.
unidentified		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Take care.
		That's very nice of you.
		Now, VerseCorder is neat.
		You can record a whole show on a verse recorder.
		A lot of people are catching on to that one.
		First time caller line, you're on the air.
		Hello.
unidentified		Hello, Mr. Bell.
		I have to relate this story to you very quick because there's definitely something afterlife.
		I was looking at the computer on Saturday because I used to live around Fort Myers, Sanibel Island to be exact.
		And so I usually look at the obituaries who died in that area because I know a lot of people.
		They live in Santa Clara, California now.
		So as I bring up, I never read the article, but there was an article about Father's Day and this gentleman that founded the Edison Mall.
		It's quite a large mall in Fort Myers.
		And I started reading the article, which I never do.
		And I go to the second page, and as I go all the way down to the last picture, there were pictures in of this gentleman that founded the Edison Mall.
		The last picture shows me my son, who died 24 years ago.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What?
unidentified		Standing in that mall, walking in that mall, right in front.
unidentified		And behind it is a bunch of scaffolding.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How can you know for sure?
unidentified		I already called up.
		I found out it's him.
		I called Florida.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What?
unidentified		And my son died 24 years ago on July the 8th.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Wait, wait, wait.
		Slow down.
		Let me first ask you, 21 years ago you say your son died.
unidentified		24 years.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		24 years, I'm sorry.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		In what manner, what was the manner of his death?
unidentified		He had a boating accident on Sanibel Island, the Gulf of Mexico.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		A boating accident.
unidentified		Yes, sir.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And his body was recovered?
unidentified		Yes.
unidentified		Now, this.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Excuse me.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And you and your family buried him?
unidentified		Yes.
unidentified		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Or cremated him or what?
unidentified		Well, he was cremated.
		Now, this picture is taken before he died.
		It was taken in June of 78.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh.
unidentified		But what this picture is telling me, because I was looking for a job and I don't want to go to a mall.
unidentified		For some reason, I fear malls because of the attacks.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		So this picture is telling me that my son is sending me the message, don't work at a mall, because behind him, there's hardly anybody in that mall.
		There are two women walking in front.
		I've got the printout in front of me.
		Him standing right in front of the scaffolding and men are working on it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Do you think that's the message, really?
unidentified		I do.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, then that's the kind of thing you better follow.
unidentified		Don't you believe in that?
unidentified		Because it's the second time he's given me messages like that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Ma'am, I'm not sure what I believe.
		I think I do believe that such things can occur.
		And if I received that and I thought as you do, I would avoid malls.
unidentified		Well, thank you very much.
unidentified		And happy birthday, Mr. Thank you very much.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I would avoid malls.
		You know, you've got to follow your gut on this stuff.
		As it is with a lot of life, you know, you've got to be true to yourself, honest with yourself, and if you're not, then you're going to make a hell of a lot of mistakes.
		If you're not true to yourself, if you don't follow what you believe in and pursue that, then you're going to make mistakes.
		And maybe there's a lot of people who don't listen to things and they make the ultimate mistake, you know, and they're immediately sent to the other side.
		Of course, we never hear any complaints about those mistakes because they were the last mistakes made of that sort.
		Wildcard line, you're on the air.
		Hello.
unidentified		Hello, Art.
unidentified		This is Colin calling from Evansville, Indiana.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, oh, boy, ground zero, huh?
unidentified		Yes, sir.
unidentified		Listen to you on 1280 WGBF.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		Just wanted to get with you a little bit on today's activities, 5.0.
unidentified		Not a whole lot of damage out here, and just minimal damage.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's what you would expect with a five quake.
unidentified		Right.
unidentified		Just got a little eye-opener, I guess you could say.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, a little hello there.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, but there's been no hello there on this line, the fault line, since the 1800s.
unidentified		Yes, that's right.
		We've had a few tremors here and there, but that's about it until today.
		I was wondering if the gentleman that predicted this had predicted any major quake on this fault.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, you know, I hate to be the bearer of bad news.
		What I would recommend you do is you go back and listen to the program with Gordon Michaels Gallion.
		I really don't want to speak his words.
		I just want to advise you to go back and listen to that program.
unidentified		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
unidentified		All right, sir.
		Well, thank you and have a good evening.
		have one yourself yeah Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You know, that hit me right between the eyes, as it did a zillion other people.
		I mean, this is pretty fresh in everybody's mind, what Gordon Skitt said about the New Madrid fault.
		Now, there will be others, I say, as a little controversy about what fault line it's on, but according to CNN, it was a New Madrid.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Good morning.
unidentified		Hello.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi, turn your radio off, please.
unidentified		Sure.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's always number one.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Where are you calling from?
unidentified		How are you doing?
unidentified		I'm calling from Cape Cod, Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Cape Cod, all right?
unidentified		Nice to hear from you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, actually, good to hear from you since you called.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Hello.
		Hi, Art.
unidentified		How are you doing?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Just spiffy.
unidentified		Joe from Boston, WRKO680.
		Can you have a comment and a question?
		I want to ask you first my comment and your question on KNYE.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
unidentified		What is happening to Dr. Anderson?
unidentified		Have you gotten involved with his family?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, listen.
		No, well, we're trying.
		We have tried to get it.
		We had numbers, we had websites, and I'm telling you, man, just psh.
unidentified		Well, the reason that I ask is maybe you can have this professor on, this guy from Italy, who built this other time machine.
unidentified		Because if this thing works, maybe the Air Force or Ares 51, which I hope you do more programs on, knows about this, and they're doing some work down there.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And maybe we can get a picture of Dr. Anderson or Madman.
unidentified		Or what happened to them.
		Now, my question is on KNYE.
		Can you tell us more about your radio station?
		Because I spoke with Will.
		I speak with him occasionally.
		He says they have failures over their computers.
		Do you have failures?
		I mean, you record all your shows.
		Do you put them on analog or digital?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		do not have failures no no Will said that over at I was sort of joshing.
		Of course, we have failures.
		You know, can have things that go wrong.
		I mean, everything is on computers.
		Everything.
		Everything's.
unidentified		You don't use analog or reel-to-reel anymore?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		There's not a turntable.
		There's not a record.
		There's not anything that even resembles that technology anywhere near the building.
unidentified		Wow.
unidentified		I don't like computers.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You don't, huh?
unidentified		No, I can't see it.
unidentified		You know what I mean?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, you know, the problem with computers is they don't care whether you like them or not.
unidentified		Well, how do you record all your shows?
unidentified		You must have an all-time experience.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no, no, no.
		What do you mean?
		How do I play them?
		In other words, my show comes up live as it is right now.
		But it's being recorded.
		No, no, no, no, no.
unidentified		Does that mean you're recording it at K-N-Y-E for later?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no.
		We're not.
		We're just playing it live.
		It comes down from satellite in a flash, and we just air it live, sir.
		That's all.
unidentified		Oh, I thought you were archiving it for your own.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, the network archives.
unidentified		Oh.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And they do that on hard drives, sir.
unidentified		Oh, my God.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hey, we're in the age of computers.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You can ignore it, but it's not going away.
unidentified		Well, I hope you get that professor on.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I do, too.
		All right, thank you.
		Lester of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Hello.
unidentified		All right, I have two things.
unidentified		The first thing I want to tell you is I have the miracle cure for your back.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Uh-oh.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Do you know how many miracle cures have been thrust upon me, but go right ahead.
unidentified		Okay, first, so you know I'm on the level.
		I know the terminology.
		I've got the same deal, L4, L5, S1, S2.
		I've lived with it for 30 years.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, proceed, sir, the cure.
unidentified		Yeah.
		There's a back machine that certain physical therapists and chiropractors have, and it increases the muscle mass in your low back.
		And they've got my witness.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		A back machine.
unidentified		Yeah, it's very expensive.
unidentified		It's a $50,000 machine.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, my God.
unidentified		Only certain of the physical therapy sports injury offices have it.
		But find one of those, and I'm promising you, it'll work a miracle for you.
		It has for me.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Appreciate the information.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Sir, we'll have to.
unidentified		Yeah, the other issue is that I wanted to ask if you could ever get those four Army Intel guys that went AWOL from Germany, what was it, eight to ten years ago?
		Yeah, I interviewed them.
		Yeah, I just, I know that you had interviewed them years ago.
		I wondered if you had done a recent one or not.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, the story, I appreciate the call, but the story hasn't changed.
		It was a very strange story involving a Ouija board and soldiers that went AWOL ended up in Florida.
		And I interviewed them years ago, and there's not been a change to that story yet.
		It was weird then.
		It's weird now.
		Very, very strange story.
		First time caller line, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hello.
unidentified		Hello, Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello, sir.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You must be in a truck.
unidentified		Yeah, I'm the truck driver.
unidentified		I'm in Chattanooga now, headed down to Atlanta.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		First of all, I want to wish you a belated happy birthday.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
unidentified		I couldn't get through last night to tell you.
		By check out your website.
		I checked out that American anti-gravity that you had on the website.
		That's a pretty neat little deal there.
		Yeah.
		They actually got all the parts you can buy to build your own.
		I've been thinking about trying that soon as I get a chance.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I recommend it.
		I mean, by all means.
		You know, people trying these things by themselves is a really good idea.
		Usually.
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Usually.
unidentified		That's pretty neat.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		There are some things that you should not try at home that are dangerous.
		But when one comes along that you can try and verify yourself, by all means.
		Canada's number two privately owned national television network, according to Sammy from Ottawa, said in its 6.30 newscast, the weather is Canada's number One story today.
		According to Canada's Canadian Broadcasting Corporation, the weather is only number six in the news, but this one, the privately owned one, is where it's listed.
		He says, I can't blame him because in Ottawa we've already had, listen to this, folks, three times the normal level of rainfall.
		Farmers near Montreal would have had more success growing rice in water paddies than the more traditional crops up here.
		Now, water that might well be in Colorado right now is instead to the north where it ought not be, in Ottawa, three times the normal rainfall in Ottawa, up in Canada.
		Now, isn't that exactly what we said would occur, that weather conditions would begin moving north?
		That appears to be a process well underway right now.
		West for the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Hello.
unidentified		Hi, Art.
		Hi.
		I want to give you something.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Turn your radio off, please.
unidentified		Okay, hang on a minute.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Always, folks, have it next to you so that you can turn it off the minute you get on the air or you will confuse yourself.
unidentified		Yes.
		I want to give you something because you have been giving us something for so long.
		We've completely gotten rid of our TV.
		We don't have cable anymore.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Really?
unidentified		And we'll.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Big move.
		That's a big move.
		Who made the decision?
unidentified		Well, actually, the cable company made it for us.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I see.
unidentified		But anyway, what I wanted to tell you is we listen to Art Bell every night, faithfully, and we really enjoy you.
		And I wanted to tell you, I've seen pictures on your website of your wife, and I wanted to wish you a happy belated birthday.
		Take that woman out.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		My back will permit me to walk straight.
		I'm sort of bowed a little bit right now.
		My back knows when I'm about to want to do something important, whether it's work or vacation, it doesn't matter.
		My back knows, and it goes, gotcha.
unidentified		Yeah.
unidentified		It's sort of like when with your vehicles, my mom always told me, don't talk about when you have extra money in front of your vehicles or your partner.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Or they'll take it, right?
unidentified		Uh-huh.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You got it.
unidentified		gotta go when i think back on all the crap i learned in high school it's a wonder i can't think at all and my lack of education hasn't hurt enough You know, I recently had a conversation in my Firebird.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I've got a Firebird Trans Am.
		I barely ever drive it.
		We drive to Geo Metro.
		But now come to think of it.
		It's been acting a little strangely.
		I wonder what it wants.
unidentified		I wonder what it's going to do.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I wonder what it's gonna take.
unidentified		Ha ha ha ha!
		Take a photograph tomorrow.
		Oh my god.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, Warren, welcome to the program.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Well, thank you very much for having me.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Where are you physically right now?
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Physically, I'm in Tucson, Arizona.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Tucson, Arizona, huh?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, tell me, did you hear about this mess in the West?
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Yes, I sure did.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		We had some of the winds down here, but certainly not the intensity that you guys had up there.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, they were definitely clocking near 100 miles an hour.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Now, as a storm chaser, can you give me some idea of what the hell happened to us today?
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Well, to put it as simple as you can, it was just a very intense low-pressure system, and we have these all the time.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So it was a pressure gradient then different.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Correct, right.
		Yeah, the atmosphere is always trying to balance.
		You have the holes, which are the low pressure, and you have the highs, which are the building pressure, if you want to look at it that way.
		And this was just one of those holes in the atmosphere being rapidly filled with flowing air.
		And on the surface, that translates into really high winds.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I tell you, we dived 30 degrees in an extremely short time.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So that tells you how much energy was at battle, I guess is a way to put it.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, the atmosphere is battling between the high and the low pressures all around the globe.
		And this one just happened to be centered over your neck of the woods.
		And as you said earlier, it's almost like the jet stream coming down.
		Technically, that's not what happens.
		But when you have winds that strong, you know, the jet stream usually runs between 80 and 200 miles per hour.
		So you guys were somewhere right in the middle.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah, definitely.
		Oh, gosh, the damage.
		Anyway, that's nothing new to you, I guess.
		You have been a storm chaser now for how long?
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Oh, going on almost 20 years.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		20 years.
		You're crazy.
		Blink of an eye.
		Absolutely crazy.
		I did the same thing, Warren.
		I was an amateur.
		I was stationed at Amarillo Air Force Base in Texas, up in the Panhandle of Texas.
		That's in the middle of Tornado Alley.
		And I had a very good friend who's become a meteorologist.
		He has done so for a television station down in Lake Charles, Louisiana, named Lynn Woodlake.
		And Lynn and I used to take off from the Air Force Base and chase these thunderheads, these roll clouds.
		We chased a few right on up into Oklahoma in a stupid little Volkswagen taking footage to sell to local TV stations.
		And how I came out of that alive, I have no idea.
		Now, I didn't go on to be the weathernut that my friend did, and obviously you've gone well beyond that.
		But what possesses a person to put themselves in the way of danger like this?
		I mean, severe, life-threatening type danger?
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Well, for me, it's a journalistic pursuit.
		It started off that way.
		I started out as a newspaper magazine journalist and wanted to do something different.
		I mean, I had friends who specialized in news or fashion or sports, and I thought, well, you know, no one's doing weather.
		There's no photojournalist out shooting weather exclusively.
		So at the time, it was just really accidental.
		I fell into something that no one else was doing, and there was a vacuum for those kinds of images.
		And What at first I thought was going to be a serious hobby or a sideline turned into a full-time business.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So, in other words, when you know that weather is going to hit or is very likely to hit, what do you do?
		Start driving?
		Get on an airplane?
		In other words, how does a photojournalist interested in covering weather disasters, how does he get around?
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's a good question because you almost have to be there with weather.
		Breaking news, you can go to a scene.
		You either get there too early or too late or at the right time, and then you get the shot.
		With weather, generally requires a little bit of pre-planning.
		For example, you were talking about Amarillo.
		In about two weeks, I take off and meet some of my chase volunteers in Amarillo, and we'll chase from that location through the rest of the spring into mid or late June.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		There you go.
		Now, I heard an interesting stat on CNN the other day.
		They said that this year thus far, we have had not anywhere near the number of tornadoes that we would normally have, which indicates some kind of change is going on, apparently.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
		As a matter of fact, I think the count right now is at about 59.
		There may have been another one or two today, but the official count is at 58.
		Usually this time of year, the preliminary count is somewhere around 150, maybe 200.
		So we're way behind.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's a big difference.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Even more amazing is the fact that as of the 13th of April, this is the longest period we have gone in U.S. history without a tornado fatality.
unidentified		That's right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's what I heard.
		That's what was on CNN.
		That's amazing.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, 1961 was the last time, and that went right up to April 12th.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		we've set a new record.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Now, in your profession, do you have any guesses about, you know, People have noted, for example, this year that there doesn't seem to be a springtime.
		People have gone from winter straight into summer, and they're missing the seasonal change.
		It's getting radical.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Very true.
		And as a matter of fact, if you look at some of the data from this year, this is a very unusual year.
		Not only the tornado counts down, but the number of very strong cold fronts that usually go down into the deep south and create these storms.
		We haven't had those this year.
		So the whole pattern has suddenly shifted into a very benign system.
		Of course, today, if you were in Las Vegas, you wouldn't be thinking that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		But, you know, these weather patterns change over years.
		If you look, for example, at tree ring research, where they take the very old trees and cut them in half, of course, and look at the actual rings, they can tell there are fluctuations every so many hundred years or even thousands of years if you look at some of the other fossilized data.
		So we go through these swings, and we may be, at this time in our history, preparing to go through a major change.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I would say it's probably underway right now, actually.
		I have no idea.
		They're upping the forecast for the number of hurricanes they think there's going to be.
		I know in El Niño is building quickly again in the Pacific, and so I guess we're really in for it, which means that business for you is probably going to be pretty interesting.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Unfortunately, you know, when you have these lulls, when things slow down, I get a little bit nervous because that usually means that Mother Nature is going to find some kind of a way or method to make up for it.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		So, you know, the quiet before the storm fits the situation.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You officially call yourself a storm chaser, right?
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		That's the title.
		Journalist.
		Storm chasing journalist.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So in what way are you different from other chasers when you're out there?
		I recall we were simply, when I did it, we just wanted footage.
		Boy, when those tornadoes would begin to dip down or touch ground, we were on it with footage, probably ignoring life and limb.
		But Lynn, who's a meteorologist, knew which side of the storm to keep us on.
		He probably kept me alive, I'm sure.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's quite dangerous in that part of the country when you have those supercell thunderstorms.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		But you have to remember the majority of people that chase, believe it or not, this may shock some people, there's probably about 200 or 300 hardcore people who chase just for the thrill of it, for the fun of it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Just for the thrill.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		The thrill of it.
		Now, some of these people do it.
		They've been doing it for years.
		As a matter of fact, the first real storm chasers, the first people that went out and did it for the enjoyment began in the 1950s.
		And since Twister, the number of people have gone up into the hundreds.
		As a matter of fact, you can go out on any big storm day now in the plains, as you used to do in Amarillo.
		You would be shocked.
		You'll see hundreds of cars lining the road traveling towards these storms.
		Really?
		It's completely, in some places it's gotten completely out of control.
		And matter of fact, some people have suggested legislation.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I can't defend myself because I think I probably did it.
		You know, I was a young airman.
		I was stupid.
		And I did it.
		I'm sure I did it for the thrill.
		I'm sure that was a big part of the equation.
		We were taking footage and we were selling that.
		And that was a good little business for a while.
		But frankly, it was a thrill.
		And I remember a movie.
		You remember the movie about the shark and the beach and all the rest of it?
unidentified		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It kind of reminds me of that, I suppose, anyway.
		Anyway, listen, what do you do?
		When you go out, who do you go out with?
		If you take off after one of those big sells where you believe that a tornado might develop, what do you take with you?
		How do you protect yourself?
		I'm sorry.
		Have you ever actually, for example, had a tornado cross over you?
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		I've had the winds that feed into a tornado, the forming tornado hit the vehicle I was driving.
		Back in Kansas in the early days of chasing when I didn't know any better, I drove right into the area where the circulation actually begins.
		And you can tell because there's very strong wind shifts all of a sudden.
		And you notice things just aren't right.
		The winds, matter of fact, they'll go from one direction to the next direction without warning all of a sudden and then back the other way.
		So that was a good indication that I was in the wrong place.
		But no, I've never actually been inside a tornado.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You've seen the classic footage, of course, of the people who were caught under the freeway bridge as a tornado passed directly above them or over them.
		That's incredible.
		What would have happened to the barometric pressure below these people?
		Wouldn't they have lost eardrums, that sort of thing?
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		No, the pressure doesn't actually drop that much from what they know.
		There's people who have been, and that's a great example, people who have been very close to tornadoes, and there's even instrumentation relatively close to some of the larger tornadoes.
		The pressure wouldn't drop enough to hurt you.
		But they found recently that underpasses are probably one of the least likely places you want to be during a tornado because they actually channel the winds.
		So the old theory about going to an underpass has changed in recent years, and it's not the best place to be.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Although better than, I suppose, out on the flat.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Well, you know, it depends.
		If you can find a small depression, you have to remember these winds, which can reach 318 miles per hour in an F5 tornado, are right above the surface.
		So theoretically, if you can find a very small ditch, those winds will go right over you.
		The problem you have is debris.
		Debris flying within that zone of destruction can hit you.
		And there have been cases recently where people did the right thing.
		They did find a small ditch.
		They laid in the ditch, and debris ended up hitting them and killing them.
		So the best advice is to be as far away from a tornado as you can be if you see one guy.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, again, circling back to that famous shark movie I was talking about, I remember a scene in which a bunch of good old boys with beer and guns, they were overloading a boat and on their way out to kill that there shark, you know.
		And I remember a scene in which one of the officials was standing on the shore just shaking his head, going, they're dead.
		You know, they're dead.
		And it's kind of like the hundreds of storm chasers that you're talking about take off out of Amarillo and other places during the really worst of it and chase these things.
		You really think there ought to be some sort of legislation about this?
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Well, I don't really think there should be, but there are people who have proposed it because it is getting out of control.
		I mean, it's not unusual to see the roads lined with cars.
		I mean, literally lined as far as you can see.
		And you have to remember, there's a lot of people chasing who have a legitimate reason to be there.
		There are journalists, there are scientists, there are spotters who are out there to warn the community.
		So there's a lot of people who chase responsibly, and even the people who chase for fun, a lot of these guys and gals will report what they see.
		You know, they're not out there just to have fun.
		They actually will call the weather service and report something if they see it, or if there's an accident, they'll stop and help.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But there is a good old boy aspect to it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		People just out there, let's go see a tornado, honey.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, and you've got your locals now.
		And the weather stations in Tornado Alley do such a wonderful job now of covering.
		I mean, they're on live when there's a storm.
		Listeners who have never been in the plains would be amazed.
		I mean, it's continuous live coverage with a radar that shows you right where the storm is.
		Well, a lot of people see that now, and they get in the car and they tear after the tornado.
		So you've not only got the chasers from other areas, you've got the local people going out to take a look.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And you've even got the reports of radar, so if you're chasing, you know right where to go.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Oh, absolutely.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		And people nowadays, of course, have satellites or televisions in their cars, so it's not hard to find a tornado nowadays.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		In other words, when you see a front developing or something that's obviously going to produce a tornado or very likely will of an F4 or F5 or ID, something really awful in the Midwest, do you get on a plane and move or what do you do?
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Well, there are systems occasionally.
		April 26, 1991, I believe that was the year when there was a major outbreak of tornadoes.
		You could tell days in advance.
		You could see the system coming.
		But most of the time with tornado chasing, you actually place yourself, as you know, as you used to do in Amarillo, in the best location.
		And from about the last week in April through about the second or third week in June, somewhere within that region.
		Now, it may be Midland Texas all the way up to almost the Canadian border, there will be somewhat of a regular season.
		You may have to do quite a bit of traveling, but there will be tornadoes every few days.
		So once you're there, it's a matter of forecasting.
		It's a matter of going over the data.
		The trucks we use for chasing all have weather computers and cell phones and laptops and all wonderful gadgets.
		So we're forecasting continuously.
		From the morning when the first reports come out, we're looking at data throughout the whole day on our laptops and refine our chase area to one location.
		And then, of course, once the storms go up, it's more of a visual chase than it is so much of a data chase at that point.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How many times have you come close to dying?
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Well, my first storm chase, believe it or not, at age 12, I got the wacky idea here in the desert to go out.
		And as you know there, when it rains, being flat out here, the little washes, as we call them, fill up with water.
		And I got the bright idea to go out and have my first storm chase.
		Well, unfortunately, part of the bank gave way and I was swept down this flooded ravine.
		Went through the near-death experience and little movie.
		What movie there was at age 12 flash before me.
		Oh, really?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You actually had an NDE?
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Actually had that.
		And I can remember it to this day.
		And, of course, at 12 years old, there's not much, but there was a little significant, you know, fast-moving little movie that everyone talks about.
		And to this day, I can vividly remember it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Listen, hold on.
		We're at the bottom of the hour.
		This is all about storm chasing.
		Warren Faitley is my guest.
		I'm R Bell.
unidentified		I'm R Bell.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, Warren.
		This may be outside your immediate storm-chasing experience.
		However, it may relate to what we're talking about tonight.
		You know, we've got a situation in the world right now where, for example, the Larson B ice shelf just collapsed and is in a million pieces right now and can be seen from satellite down at the Antarctic.
		At the North Pole, our Navy is talking about a new ocean because it's melting.
		No more subs being able to hide under the ice up there because there won't be any ice.
		In Alaska, the tundra is melting.
		I mean, there are some fairly significant changes going on in the world right now, and that's bound to affect your work.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
		And over the course of the last 20 years, I've noticed changes.
		The best example, if you ask anyone here in the southwest, in Tucson, about the summer monsoons, they'll tell you that in the last 10 to 15 years, the monsoons have changed.
		As a matter of fact, most of what I would consider my best lightning shots were accomplished 10 Or 15 years ago when we had a large volume, a large number of summer thunderstorms, but in the last 10 or 15 years, that number has dropped off.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, we also have the same monsoons you do, and they just don't come up here anymore.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, and I mean, that's all over the country.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		You can talk to people that have been in one area long enough to notice changes, some of them very subtle, changes in wildlife, the number of animals or amphibians in a certain area, all these things, you know, collectively they do signal that something is changing.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Something major is in the middle of a change.
		That's right.
		And so you really kind of work at the macro level.
		In other words, you look for a major event of some sort, and you make your way to it for photographic and journalistic reasons.
		So your material appears, I guess, all over the place, huh?
		All over the world.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		I've been published in probably almost every news magazine, certainly here in the United States and even in foreign countries.
		And it's amazing some of the things weather photos are used for.
		I've seen them used for everything from puzzles to on cigarette lighters, billboards, you name it.
		When you think about it, if you consciously think about it and pick up a magazine in your house right now, you'll probably find a stock-type weather photo.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So, you know, that's really true.
		I really hadn't thought a lot about that.
		So there's really a pretty good market for what you do.
unidentified		Oh, absolutely.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		And then you have, of course, the film and video in, which opens up a whole new area of interest.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I have watched a couple of specials on tornadoes, and I've seen some of the F5 tornadoes, and it's hard to imagine anything on Earth more frightening than something of that magnitude.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I take it you've seen them.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		I've seen one F5.
		Matter of fact, the first major tornado I ever encountered on April 26, 1991, very close to it.
		Matter of fact, I almost drove into it.
		Oh, my God.
		It was so large, it really looked like a dust cloud.
		It looked like, or actually it looked like more like a cloud of smoke.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Where was this?
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		This was near Red Rock, Oklahoma.
		And as a matter of fact, the scientists were near the same tornado with portable Doppler instruments, and they actually recorded the highest wind speed ever recorded of a storm.
		And that was, I believe, 318 miles per hour, which is the top-range top end of an F5.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Actually, our atmosphere is only capable, they think, of supporting a certain wind speed under any condition.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Isn't that true?
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Well, yeah, if you look at the physics, you know, and weather, one of the things that fascinates me is the physics involved.
		You know, if you're talking about a softball-sized hellstone falling at 100 miles per hour, if you're talking about the wind speed, the damage from tornadoes, there's no doubt that there have been tornadoes with winds that have exceeded the 318 range.
		Some of the damage is incredible.
		There's one wonderful story the old-timers in Nebraska like to tell about a tornado back, I believe it was in the 40s or 50s that hit and carried away farm machinery that they've never found.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		They've never found?
unidentified		found uh...
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		which would mean to you You would think something of that substance.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, it would certainly take some of it out, but the major body of the thing would have to have more or less survived.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And so, oh, gosh, I wonder if that'll turn up in a desert in Africa somewhere.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		You never know.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		There may be some munchkin driving it around in the land of Oz right now.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, there may be.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Do you particularly chase, are tornadoes your specialty, or do you look at all kinds of weather and disasters?
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Well, I chase everything.
		I start in the winter with blizzards and work the way through the spring with tornadoes and then lightning in the desert southwest during the summer, late summer, and then, of course, hurricanes along the Gulf, the Atlantic, and occasionally down in Baja during the late fall.
		And then I usually get three or four months to relax and go through everything and do the marketing.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		May I ask you a question?
		I'm also whether or not, and when there's a hurricane, for example, I watch CNN like a lot of other people.
		And do you know some of the CNN correspondents by any chance?
		I would think you'd brush up against them occasionally.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		I have run into them.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		You have run into them on different stories.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I've always wondered, you know, during a hurricane, the practice lately has been to take some poor correspondent who doesn't seem to have anything better to do that day, I guess, and say, listen, you're on an airplane, you're going down to where we think the eye of the hurricane is going to be, and here's this poor guy hanging onto a lamp pole, you know, with a camera pointed at him, and you wonder, man, he drew the shot strong.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Well, I tell you what, most journalists, and I believe there's even old footage of Dan Rather recovering those storms, and I could be wrong, and I've heard him say once that he enjoyed covering those kind of storms.
		You know, there's just some attraction to weather.
		It's not, as in news, and one of the reasons I got out of news was there was all this violence, man against man, you know, and now, of course, we have the terrorism.
		I didn't want to cover that because to me, that was just something completely out of control.
		And if you were killed by it, it would be, in my opinion, somewhat worthless in the scheme of things.
		While on the other hand, nature, which is just so magnificent, no one has any control over.
		You know, you can't have a peace accord to end all the supercells in Texas tomorrow.
		They're going to happen.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, actually, there's another side of this, and a lot of people won't understand it.
		But I've not seen an F5, but I've seen plenty of tornadoes.
		And the listeners aren't going to understand this because people have been killed, and a lot of houses have been destroyed, and towns have been destroyed.
		But there's something incredibly beautiful about that demonstration of nature.
		Beautiful is a dangerous word to use, but it's true, isn't it?
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
		To see a storm that's towering over Three times the height of Mount Everest, or close to it sometimes.
		Oh, yeah.
		And just the colors and the power and the energy of that and the light, the light, the way the light plays on these storms.
		It's just beautiful.
		And, you know, people usually have two opinions.
		They're either terrified of storms, as a lot of people probably were in your area today, or they're fascinated.
		It seems that people's interest swings one way or the other.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's fascinating to listen to if you weren't in it.
		And perhaps when we look back on it, we can say, remember the storm of 2002?
		Then it'll be fascinating.
		In the middle of it today, it was simply downright frightening.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		And that's the thing about weather.
		And, you know, it's interesting, if you've noticed, whenever there's wind damage, and I'm not talking about today, but I'm talking about usually associated with a regular storm where there's precipitation involved.
		People will always insist, if there's any damage, that it was a tornado.
		And I've noticed this over the years.
		It's kind of fascinating.
		If there's any kind of wind damage, it's almost like people want it to be a tornado.
		They will insist, if you see them on the news or if you see them at the scene, they'll always say it was a tornado.
		Even if the damage is all in one direction and it's obviously just straight line wind damage.
		It's amazing how people are so fascinated.
		They want to associate that damage with something like a tornado.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's because their brains are trying to assimilate what could have done this, and they just don't believe anything other than something as violent as a tornado could have done that much damage.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's where it comes from.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, absolutely.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I understand you've got a chase truck, which you call Archangels.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Why Archangel?
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Well, I really can't tell you.
		I figured that after all these years of chasing and surviving, I must have some kind of an angel.
		That's the best reasoning I can give you for the name.
		But yeah, it's a custom-designed chase truck.
		It has just about everything you can imagine inside of it from a defibrillator in case we run across an accident or someone is struck by lightning, which is one of the biggest dangers when you're chasing.
		To computers, safety equipment has a full five-point harness system like NASCAR in it and a roll cage.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Aren't you afraid of the electromagnetic effects on all that electronic equipment out in the middle of cells?
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Well, the truck has been hit by lightning.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		It was hit last year in eastern Colorado, and the only thing it suffered was one of the driving lamps blew out.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Wow.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		It scared the living heck out of me.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		But I think I would much rather have a truck out there that was attracting the lightning with me in it and being relatively safe inside a vehicle, which you are, as opposed to being standing out there and having me be the biggest target.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's true.
		And I suppose you're sitting on rubber.
		As long as you're on rubber, you're probably pretty much okay.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, as long as the windows are up and you're not touching anything that's grounded to metal, you're safe.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Now, there have been, believe it or not, this is rather bizarre, but there have been instances where people were driving and the tires actually blew out and they lost control of the vehicle.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, it blew out the tires.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		It will blow out the tires.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		That is relatively common when vehicles are hit by lightning, or I should say it's not uncommon.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So all four tires could go at once?
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Well, all four, one or two.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		So it's something to keep in mind when you're driving in a heavy lightning car.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		In other words, that's actually the lightning then finding its way to ground through the metal of your car and then ultimately through the rubber of the tire and just blowing it up.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Well, probably through the rim somehow.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		It probably, I would imagine, this is a guess, probably superheats the air inside the tire somehow through the process.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Either that or just goes straight through the rubber on its way to ground.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		That may be it, too.
		Well, actually, believe it or not, it usually just goes right to the frame.
		Again, you get into this physics of storm chasing, which absolutely fascinate me.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		We used to know, when I would chase the storms out of Amarillo, we'd watch those roll clouds, and we would know when the conditions were just right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Can you feel it, too?
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		You can feel it when the conditions are right, but you know, it's very difficult on a big day to predict what will happen.
		And I remember a couple times last year when we had what's labeled as a moderate risk or a high risk, and that's a level that the Storm Prediction Center uses to grade, in layman's terms, the risk potential on a given day.
		And you can feel the energy.
		And you know, after chasing this many years, I can tell by the way the sky looks in the morning.
		I can tell by the way the wind.
		Sometimes you can tell by the smells, the moisture in the air.
		You can occasionally smell the golf as it works its way up into Texas.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, my.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		And those days, you know you're going to see something.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You know there's a lot of energy in the air and something big is going to happen.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Something big is going to happen.
		Now, there are many days when the atmosphere is capped off.
		And a lot of people would say, well, you had these giant winds today and these winds were blowing into the plains.
		Why didn't you have a lot of storms?
		And the answer is lack of moisture and also the upper atmosphere was warm.
		But you just never know.
		On any day, you may go out and see the most magnificent storm or the most magnificent tornado you can ever imagine.
		And you may see nothing.
		And that's one of the things I know that tracks me and other people to chasing is that unknown.
		And as I've told people before, it's like opening up a birthday present every day when you're out there.
		You just never know what you're going to find.
		And to me, that unknown is just so intriguing.
		You could never give it a virus.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, a lot of people are asking.
		I get these fast blast computer messages while I'm on the air, and they're saying you keep using the term straight line winds.
		In my opinion, that's what we had here today, was straight-line winds approaching 100 miles an hour.
		Now, what does straight line mean versus, I guess obviously, a tornado is a twister.
		It's in rotation, right?
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Correct.
		Straight line winds are just one direction.
		In other words, for example, when the air falls from a thunderstorm and hits the ground, it moves out laterally in one direction.
		With a tornado, you have circulation, so the damage would be in a different type of pattern.
		And whether our researchers or the people that go out and do damage surveys will look for this.
		They'll go and look weather data and see which way the wind was blowing and see if the damage relates to that.
		Of course, today there was no question it was straight-line winds.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Here in the desert, we have these things called dust devils.
		And they look for all the world like miniature tornadoes.
		Now, what is the difference in the physics, if there is a difference, between a dust devil and a tornado that's formed as a result of, or comes from, is mothered from a thunderstorm?
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Well, they're both rotating columns of air.
		They're both a type of vortices.
		The difference is a tornado is associated with a thunderstorm.
		A dust devil is more of a thermal feature, which results from the thermals rising from the desert floor, usually associated with high temperatures and sometimes a little wind.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		They can approach some pretty good winds.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		They can.
		As a matter of fact, here in Tucson, back, I believe it was in the 40s or 50s, a military cargo plane crashed after it flew into one.
		So they can be strong.
		I've heard winds that can reach 40, 50, maybe 60 miles per hour.
		I'm sure there's exceptions that have gone even higher than that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, and you go from dead still to 60 miles an hour.
		Boom, like that.
		It passes over.
		I just have five zillion questions.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		But note about Dust Devils.
		We were talking earlier about my first chases.
		After the flood, I chased.
		I then moved on to Dust Devils.
		So it was kind of interesting you brought that up.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You moved on to Dust Devil?
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		On my little, back then we called it a little spider bike.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, no kidding.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		And I borrowed a pair of welding goggles from a kid and wrapped myself up in a winter jacket.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		You can imagine it was 115, of course, when you're a kid.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You don't care.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I can't imagine chasing Dust Devils.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		And we would sit out.
		I had a group of three, four kids, and we would sit out in the corner of this giant vacant dirt lot, vacant dirt lot, out in the 110, 115 degree temperature, waiting for the right dust devil, and off we'd go, riding into the center.
		And there was a couple occasions I actually got into the middle of them, and I remember the interior, the first thing was it was as hot as a blast, so you could barely breathe.
		I don't know exactly what physics are involved in there, but the inside temperature was even hotter than the outside.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I was going to ask, I wonder if there's some sort of barometric pressure difference.
		There must be in the center of that.
		The rotation must cause it.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		It may be the pressure.
		It can be the way the air is condensed inside of it.
		Who knows?
		But I remember looking inside, and you could actually see the wall, the dust going around me, and it was kind of a weird, eerie, dusty yellow look, and you could actually see the tube going up into the sky.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, that's really weird to be right in the center of it and to watch the wall all around you.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		You know, and I've thought about in recent history nowadays to go back and do it with some professional equipment and see if I can actually photograph it or videotape it.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Of course, I'm sure if I was out there doing it, it probably wouldn't be too long until the guys in the little white uniforms show up.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Probably not.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Do you get approached by local authorities frequently when you're out?
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Yes, as a matter of fact, most of the time the local authorities want some kind of weather update.
		And I have a pretty good working relationship with most of them, as I do with the weather service offices throughout the plains.
		But yeah, you know, law enforcement and the spotters really don't get a lot of the credit they deserve.
		I mean, in any community right now, matter of fact, as we're talking as late as it is, I'm sure somewhere in the United States right now there are storm spotters out looking at a storm, reporting it back to the weather service.
		Storm spotters are really overlooked.
		We hear all this about chasing, but storm spotters and the people that work at the weather service are often overlooked in all this.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Very important.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Very important.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		They save a lot of lives, and they unfortunately never get credit for what they do.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Hold it right there.
		Warren Fadley is my guest.
		He gets to take a little bit of a break right now at the top of the hour.
		We're talking about storms, and we had a real whiz-banger in the desert here today.
		The desert picked up and moved.
		I'm telling you, it was awesome.
		From the high deserts in the middle of the night, I'm Art Bell.
unidentified		Well, I think it's time to get ready To realize just what I have found I have been on that care of what I am It's all clear to me now My heart is on fire What's
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Once again, here is Warren Fadley.
		Warren, I've got a question for you from Columbia, Tennessee.
		What is a microburst?
		You know, we know what a tornado is, sort of, I guess.
		We know what straight-line winds like the ones we had here are, but what is this microburst thing?
		It brings down airplanes and stuff like that?
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Well, a microburst is what we talked about earlier, about the winds falling from a thunderstorm and hitting the ground.
		Of course, if you're flying and you fly into one of these, you're going to have air which is descending and can get you in a lot of trouble.
		So that's what when people say a microburst hits, that's what they're talking about, is when the winds from a thunderstorm fall.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The downdraft, right?
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Right, the downdraft and move out across the ground.
		Of course, if you're flying, that won't do you much good.
		But if you're up in the air and they'll push you down towards the ground.
		So that's why you hear that term used.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		These microbursts are visible on some types of radar?
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		It depends.
		I suppose you could adjust a Doppler-type radar to pick something like that up, but generally they're not.
		Now, there are special radars that are used around airport to detect these things.
		And I should note, too, that generally when you're talking about microbursts, you're talking about a very small concentrated area, usually somewhere less than, say, three miles in area.
		So it's a very, very small area.
		And they don't last that long.
		They usually last less than five minutes.
		But again, if you're in a plane or if you're on the ground near one, they can do quite a bit of damage.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Here's Sheila in Arlington, Texas, who says, Mr. Bell, in May of 99, Oklahoma City Tornado F5, ask if he was there.
		It's the highest storm winds ever Recorded, it felt like your insides were being sucked out, your eyeballs, too.
		We went through it.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		What was the date again?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		99, Oklahoma City, F5.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Yes, I wasn't on that specific tornado.
		I was on a tornado that was west of Oklahoma City.
		As a matter of fact, there were three or four intense supercell storms that went up on that day and I believe killed 30, 40 people.
		That was the last major fatality-type outbreak we've had.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, here's a good question for you.
		If you're with Dorothy there in the farmhouse in Kansas, and you look out and you go, oh, my God, a tornado, what is your best bet?
		Assuming you don't have a storm cellar, do you get in your car and run?
		Is that one way to do it, a safe way?
		Or do you hunker down in the house?
		Or what's the safest bet?
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Well, as I always tell people, the safest bet is to have planned ahead for that.
		But if you get in a situation like you just described, the best thing you could do is to find some place underground, no matter what it is.
		You're always going to be safer underground, in a basement, in a depression.
		You know, if you were an experienced storm chaser, there's a chance you could get in a car and drive away if you knew what you were doing.
		But most people, when they see a tornado coming towards them, they panic.
		I mean, they lose their mind.
		Tornadoes are really odd because they're somewhat mesmerizing.
		And even after the number I've seen, there's still something about them that I've equated to like you can get transfixed staring at a fire in a fireplace.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		There's something about them that just transfixes you for a while.
		And I'm sure there's a lot of people who have lost their lives because they've seen these things come and they freeze.
		And they're very hard to, it's very hard to judge distance and speed because it's such an odd phenomenon.
		It's just not something you see every day.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		They've had tornadoes do some pretty strange things.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Like, for example, stay in one spot for 20 minutes and dig a hole in the ground.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Well, I don't know.
		I know that tornadoes can move in very odd directions.
		The majority of tornadoes move towards the northeast or towards the east.
		But they can do odd things.
		There's tornadoes that have made complete circles.
		There's tornadoes that have stopped.
		There's tornadoes.
		Matter of fact, a couple years ago, there was one moving at 100 miles per hour.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I heard, Warren, that occasionally tornadoes have actually become so strong, so fast, that they've broken away from the thunderstorm that was feeding them and moved ahead of it.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		That I have never heard of.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You've never heard of that?
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		No.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Now, of course, they don't last because they're not maintained, but they can for a time move ahead, I've heard.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Well, during the dissipation stage of a tornado, you can still have a very weak circulation.
		It may not be associated with the main rotation of the storm, but that would be very short-lived and probably wouldn't do any damage.
		Now, you can have things the leading edge.
		You can have these avoidance at the leading edge of a thunderstorm known as gustnadoes, but they're not generally associated with any kind of large-scale rotation as you have with the storm.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Did you say gustnado?
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Gustnado.
		Located at the leading edge of a thunderstorm or just in front of it, as we were talking earlier, some of the winds, the microburst-type winds fanning out from the storm will kick up these little, very similar to dust devils in front of the storm, and they're often mistaken.
		I've seen them.
		Depending on which way you're looking at the storm, and if you don't have your bearings straight, it will look like a real tornado.
		And many of the false reports you get around thunderstorms are gustnadoes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
		Are we perhaps overdue for a major, very deadly weather event?
		It's been so quiet, but quiet and weird.
		I mean, what did they say?
		Minnesota, 90 degrees today or something like that, Minnesota.
		That's insane.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Well, and we took the break there.
		I was looking at some of the forecasts for today now.
		I guess it was tomorrow, just a little bit ago, but for Tuesday.
		And, you know, there is a risk up there of severe weather.
		And you figure with these winds heading up in that direction and the dew points are a little bit higher and those higher temperatures, something's going to give.
		So if you live up in that part of the country, you might want to keep an eye on the weather tomorrow.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You wouldn't likely take a trip based on what you know tonight, unless, of course, you're doing the program, so you can't do it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But I mean, seeing that, would that cause you to get on a plane and go?
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		No, it would have to be something extraordinary, something that had enough positive elements and then a fewer negative elements to go.
		There are a few situations where I would actually do that.
		But you have to remember with severe weather, you can forecast a day in advance.
		You can forecast hours in advance.
		But a lot of times it comes down to, believe it or not, one or two degrees difference in the upper atmosphere, which we call capping, which holds back the development of storms.
		And sometimes that can be just a few degrees that will prevent major tornadic outbreaks.
		The people in the planes probably have no idea how many times that chasers have been sitting out there, and the atmosphere has come within just a few degrees of letting loose absolutely horrific weather.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How much does the jet stream have to do with this?
		Now, it does seem to follow that where the jet stream curves and twists directly under the jet stream, people seem to have a lot of trouble.
		Is it the jet stream driving the weather along with it, or how does that work?
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
		A jet stream is one of the most critical elements for the formation of a tornado.
		You need to have that upper level flow.
		You need to have veering winds from the surface up through the atmosphere.
		Very important to get the rotation going in a storm.
		The jet stream also creates lift in the atmosphere.
		When you have any body of fast-moving currents over an air, you're going to have some upswelling, which will give you some lift.
		The jet stream also vents storms.
		Most of us see storms out here in the desert.
		They go up and they look tremendous.
		But what happens is they collapse on themselves, all that weight, and they just fall and collapse.
		Well, with the supercell storms you have out in the plains that create the majority of the large tornadoes, you do have jet stream winds which are venting the top of those storms, allowing the updrafts to survive for longer periods.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, about how high is the jet stream?
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Well, the jet stream generally, when you hear someone referring to the jet stream, they're talking about somewhere in the range of anywhere from probably 10,000 feet on up to 40,000, 50,000, 60,000 feet.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, the reason I ask that is because when you start talking about the supercells you and I have been talking about, the kind that form out the panhandle and up into Oklahoma, those supercells, I believe, can get as high as 50 or 60,000 feet, can't they?
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		It's not unusual for them to be well over 50,000 feet.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So that means it's going right through the jet stream.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah, absolutely.
		That helps move the storms along, and again, it creates a lot of lift and moves them along.
		When you talk about the jet stream, you have to remember there are different types of jet streams.
		There's low-level jets, what we call that sometimes set up in the planes coming from the south.
		So you have jet streams up through all levels of the atmosphere, and of course, depending on where you are on Earth, there are different levels and different intensities.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You keep talking about the physics of all of this.
		Do we completely understand, do we really completely understand the physics of all this?
		One would almost think no, or we'd be able to have completely accurate forecasts, which we certainly do not.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Well, you know, weather forecasting is kind of interesting because of all the sciences, it's probably one of the ones that has not really advanced as fast as a lot of other science.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But why not?
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		And there are, trust me, there's some people in tornado research and people, for example, out of Norman, Oklahoma, who are brilliant.
		I've met these people.
		I've read their work.
		They're absolutely brilliant people.
		The problem is in the large scale, I don't think a lot of kids are enticed into meteorology.
		You know, people with a brilliant mind seem to go towards the money.
		They go towards engineering, law, medicine.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but you're a good example of somebody who's been able to chase his dream and storms and make money at the same time.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		That's true.
		But I'm not a scientist, although I do admire the science of it immensely.
		It just doesn't attract meteorology, it doesn't attract, I think, the most brilliant, the large pools of brilliant people, although it certainly has a few people, many people who are gifted.
		But it doesn't attract the kind of people, I think, who are looking for money.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I just can't figure that.
		I mean, it has one of the most profound effects on our planet.
		It makes or breaks insurance companies.
		It affects the economies of entire nations and parts of the world.
		It just doesn't make sense.
		I mean, it's what's all around us.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Well, you know, weather forecasting has come along very slow.
		We have things now called atmospheric profilers, which are Doppler radars that point vertically.
		So you can actually tell the wind speeds if you have the right configuration.
		You can actually tell which way the winds are blowing without sending up the standard.
		You know, everyone's probably, most people have seen the weather balloons that they release to gather data as they go up to the atmosphere.
		Well, the problem is here in the U.S., most of the time they only launch those twice a day.
		They launch them in the a.m. and they launch them at the p.m.
		So when most severe weather occurs, which is towards, you know, after mid-afternoon to early evening, they don't really know what's going on in the atmosphere as far as temperatures go.
		For example, we were talking earlier about the cap and the temperatures, how important that is for severe weather.
		Occasionally, if it looks like it's going to be a big day, they'll send up an extra balloon, but that's one of the weaknesses.
		It's just an example of one of the weaknesses in forecasting is there's that large void of data between certain hours that prevent forecasters from making a really, really positive forecast.
		And there's other little things like that.
		So I think at some point, somebody has to be willing to put the money and the technology into it to make more accurate forecasts.
		Although, of course, nowadays I think you can say the forecasting is a lot more accurate than it was, say, 10 or 20 years ago.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I'm going to go to my experience here over the last, say, month.
		A lot of times they will forecast 40 mile per hour better winds, perhaps gusts to 60, and it just doesn't happen.
		And it doesn't happen four or five times.
		And then suddenly yesterday, it happened.
		It didn't just happen.
		It happened beyond their wildest expectations of the forecast.
		I mean, we had almost 100 mile-an-hour winds here, and they were talking about maybe gusts to 60.
		So they seem to miss it on one side or the other.
		And that causes people, you know, after you cry wolf about three or four times, people go, oh, yeah, right.
		You know, we're used to wind here in the desert, no big deal.
		And then you get the almost 100 mile-an-hour winds that destroy things.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's still very difficult to forecast.
		And it's not because of negligence with the tools that the forecasters have.
		And I think the technology, they do the best they can with what they have.
		But, you know, weather is sickle.
		It's really bizarre.
		You just never know from one day to the next what's going to happen.
		And you do the best you can, but there's no foolproof method yet.
		Within really a few hours to forecast, of course, with Doppler radar, which is one of the greatest, in my opinion, tools that the Weather Service has nowadays, you can dissect a storm and tell if it has tornadic potential sometimes an hour in advance when the storm first.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, listen, I don't want to crash your site, but I'm on your site right now, StormChaser.com.
		We've got a link up under your name on my website right now, artbell.com, if people want to follow it.
		Stormchaser.com is a website.
		And I'm looking at a photograph, this month's amazing storm-chasing weather picture.
		Courtesy of Storm Chaser Picture, the month homepage.
		well here is this tornado my god it looks like it actually looks like I Are you looking at the photograph?
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		think I remember which one it is, even though it's this way.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It almost looks like there's three other tornadoes visible, or three other little arms that could be tornadoes or part of the...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's very interesting.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Okay, yeah.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		someone earlier had emailed you about the 1999 outbreak in Oklahoma, and this is one of the tornadoes from that day of a western storm.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Holy smokes.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		West of Oklahoma City.
		And that just missed.
		You can see a little house down there.
		Of course, people listening can't see it.
		But the tornado's passing right next to a farmhouse and probably missed it.
		It looks like probably about a quarter of a mile from nailing that.
		As a matter of fact, when I was sitting there videotaping that, there was a group of people, local people there, talking about the people that lived there.
		They actually knew the family.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Let me ask again about the apparent additional tornadoes or additional rotational things that are sticking down, not all the way to the ground.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What have we got there?
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Well, you have to remember that the majority of tornadoes are made up of individual vortices within that circulation.
		So when you see on television a tornado, it's not just usually one large circulation.
		It's a series of sub-vortices within that circulation, which if you think of it, the damage that does, instead of having one area of circulation, you may have numerous areas near spinning, you know, 200 or 300 miles per hour.
		You can imagine the efficiency of damage and also why you have sometimes unusual damage.
		You know, one building will be destroyed and the one next to it is not because of the way the physics of the structure of that vortice.
		This one, you can see there's the main one on the ground and that circulation around that area is actually some of the other vortices that are spinning off of it.
		And sometimes you'll see them they'll come out horizontally.
		Really, there was a matter of fact from that same day in Oklahoma City, there's a classic shot of a large tornado on the ground with a horizontal tube coming out the side of it, a smaller one.
		Again, you know, the physics are just amazing.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Do we really understand completely, do you believe, the physics involved?
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		You know, there's some researchers in Oklahoma that are doing that right now.
		A couple years ago, they had Operation Vortex, which went out a massive research project.
		They were using planes and research vehicles.
		And the data from that is just fantastic to read because they've learned so much now, especially with the portable Dopplers, which they're taking out into the field, able to dissect storms up close and personal, to get all kinds of different readings at different levels to see why these things form, why they dissipate, why sometimes the perfect storm does not create a tornado, which can be just as important as the ones that do.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, that's an interesting term.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		So they're learning.
		I mean, for example, they found out that a lot of the tornadoes are the result of boundaries left over from other storms.
		Matter of fact, if I remember right, on this day, I believe there were some existing, on the Oklahoma day in 1999, there were some boundaries from previous precipitation earlier in the day.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Just as a matter of interest, since you do this as a full-time profession, when things are totally calm and it's a beautiful day and the birds are singing and there's no bad weather anywhere, do you sit around and pout or what?
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		No, you know, I enjoy that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Do you really enjoy a nice day?
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		I really do.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		You know, I don't enjoy the death and destruction.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hold on.
		We're on the bottom of the hour.
		I was just wondering, what does a full-time photojournalist do on a really nice day?
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art bell ▲ ● ▼		This is Coast, and we'll be right back.
		That should be getting to get very interesting.
		Warren, you mentioned a phrase a little while ago that keyed memory for me, Perfect Storm.
		Of course, it was a movie called Perfect Storm.
		And occasionally, storms can sort of come together, can't they?
		It doesn't happen all that frequently, but large storms can come together and become one.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		You know, the elements that help create the large storm systems, like the perfect storm, for example, it's really a timing of elements coming together at the right time.
		Whether you're talking about the wind you had today or the perfect storm, you know, it's like a machine.
		Everything has to work at the right time and come together at the right place to create.
		The wrong way, correct.
		And as a matter of fact, I just noticed here, this is kind of interesting.
		They just issued a high risk for tomorrow.
		Or actually it would be today, it would be Tuesday for portions of across Minnesota, western Wisconsin, northwestern Iowa.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So all that heat is about to explode.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Your winds are going up there.
		As a matter of fact, a lot of people probably don't know what high risk means, but I'll tell you that that's a very, very rare rating that the Storm Prediction Center gives.
		You see only a handful of these, maybe one or two a year issues.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, really?
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Very, very rare.
		As a matter of fact, I was just looking at the statement here.
		It says parameters appear to be coming together for a significant, severe wind event across portions of the upper Mississippi Valley.
		Oh, my God.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, well, we heard the 90s in Minnesota.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So in other words, all of that heat is about to meet up with something.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
		The moisture up there and the heat, and those of the winds are going to come together tomorrow.
		And if you live up in that portion of the country, you'll want to really watch the weather tomorrow, the forecasting.
		Again, that's very rare they issue these.
		And I saw the red come up on the screen.
		Matter of fact, if you go to my, we were talking about the stormchaser.com on the left-hand side, there's actually a little graphic there from the SPC, and you can click on there, and it'll give you all the.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Where is it?
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		I'm on your page.
		If you look on the right-hand, or actually, excuse me, the left-hand side, you come down there about halfway, it says today's severe weather outlook from the SPC, and I put that there so people can go there.
		But when we were talking at the break, I looked on there and saw that red, and I'm like, oh, boy.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, I want to see it myself, and everybody else is going to be rushing there.
		Now, let's see.
		I'm on main menu, media center, stock images and footage, Warren Cyclone Cowboy homepage.
		Oh, that should be interesting.
		Storm Chaser print gallery, chase products, speaking engagements, sponsor a chaser, chase frequently asked questions, chase links.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		You're getting there.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Kid Storm page.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		KidStorm page.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And then I've got contact data.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		And the next thing should be the severe weather outlook.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Let's see.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		There you go.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		There it is.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		You can see they got to get it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And so that red area.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Very, very, very significant event could occur tomorrow.
		And as a matter of fact, they've even discussed issuing a public information statement.
		And that's another rarity when they actually issue that kind of a statement.
		Now, I want to point out this could change.
		This is preliminary.
		This is early.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, what does this likely mean, though?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, are they looking at the possibility of tornadoes there, severe thunderstorms, or is this just going to be like what happened to us today?
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Well, no, it's going to actually be more storms.
		I think the upper atmosphere, I looked over this real quick.
		I didn't have time to go over the whole statement.
		But I think the winds, as we were talking earlier about the jet stream, and this all ties together, the winds are unidirectional.
		They're coming from one direction.
		Instead of having that turning in the atmosphere, which will create more rotation in the storm, I think they're looking here at more of a straight-line damaging wind event and maybe large hell.
		Now, that could change.
		Again, this is preliminary.
		And in the morning, I'll tell you, I don't know how many times I've woke up and looked at one of these at night and got all excited when I'm out chasing.
		And it's taken down to a slight risk, which is one of the lowest ratings.
		So, you know, severe weather like this changes hourly.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I see it says parameters.
		A lot of it seems awfully technical here for people like yourself, but it says parameters appear to be coming together for a significant severe wind event across portions of the upper Mississippi Valley on Tuesday.
		Oh, wow.
		So all of that energy is about to be converted.
		Does that mean that it's going to suddenly, after all this happens, get cool?
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		I don't remember there being a real strong cold front associated as you normally have this time of year with this system.
		This is more the dynamic system as opposed to, say, what you associate with a cold front coming down and sweeping across the country.
		This is a very intense low-pressure system.
		The one you had, again, is working its way up there, and when it hits that moisture...
		It's heading their way.
		The strong winds, when you mix that with, you know, when you mix any kind of a strong wind with surface heating dew points, you're looking for trouble.
		And that's obviously what they're seeing here.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		By the way, folks, if you click on that little map, it gives you a big map and then it gives you all the explanation.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's really a cool link.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, they do a great job at the SPC.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		I mean, you can't give enough credit for putting this out.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		In fact, I'm bookmarking that as we speak.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Pilots, public, look at these now, weather people.
		It's great information.
		As a matter of fact, it breaks it down here in the tornado probability, damaging wind, and large hell probabilities, too.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, here's a question that everybody asks, and I've had people call me up and say, you know, there's got to be a way to stop a tornado.
		People have envisioned blowing, literally blowing them up, putting some sort of a very high explosive or maybe fuel air explosive or, you know, something or another in a forming tornado that would cause it to disperse instead of to continue to form.
		In your opinion, is there any possibility that could work?
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I think someday you could have lasers or some type of energy that could be put into a storm.
		I mean, they tried dropping chemicals into storms to try to change.
		As a matter of fact, I think they tried it a couple years ago on a hurricane to try to cool it.
		Once you cool a thunderstorm, the heat has a tendency to diminish.
		Absolutely.
		But the problem with that is any time you monkey with something like a thunderstorm, there is the other danger of unleashing even greater potential.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Making it worse.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Making it worse.
		And there was a few years ago, there was a situation where a company did some cloud seeding, and the storm went on to produce severe weather.
		I don't remember the specifics, but there were people at the time blaming the people who cloud seeded, saying, well, cloud seeding produces more rain.
		If you're not familiar with it, that's what they do.
		But the storm went on to become more severe.
		Now, it may have been more severe even without the cloud seeding, but you have to be very careful because once you start...
		Absolutely, because people are going to be suspect anytime you try to change a storm.
		But you have to remember, storms, it's a very large-scale system.
		It's very difficult.
		I mean, how are you going to pick which storm?
		It's not uncommon on the big severe weather days to have lines of storms or squall lines that can stretch almost across the whole country.
		So I think at this point it would be very difficult.
		But someday, who knows?
		And of course, that'll put me out of business, but that'll be fine.
		I'll go retire.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Warren, that leads us into even a touchier couple of areas here.
		One is there are a lot of people who believe that there are ongoing attempts at weather control, that our government would not talk to us about it for the very reasons that you just spoke about, that they'd probably get blame, but that they are secretly experimenting with modifying our weather.
		I'm sure you've dealt with the question.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Oh, absolutely.
		And I'm sure I've heard rumors.
		I've talked to old-timers who have told me back even in World War II, there were secret projects to try to create cloud cover, for example, or to create fog or to modify the weather.
		I believe both here, or I should say the United States, Europe, the Allies, and also in Germany at the time, I believe there were attempts to modify the weather.
		But again, the amount of energy it would take, I think, to change any kind of weather system is not available now.
		There's just nothing.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, you know, I'll tell you about an interesting story that you may or may not be aware of.
		But when there were tragic, terrible fires going on in Southeast Asia, Russia offered to produce a cyclone.
		They said that they had satellite technology in place, satellites in place, that could produce a cyclone, and they actually offered to do it for free.
		I believe it was for Malaysia, if I'm remembering correctly.
		They offered to do it for free once, but would charge for it afterwards.
		Pretty wild story.
		That was in the mainstream press.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Again, the amount of energy that you would have to expend to create a storm would be fantastic.
		I mean, to modify it I think is possible, but to create it, There may be some method someday.
		Who knows?
		It may be one of those situations where you can start something very small and it can grow in intensity.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, like tickling an elephant or something.
		There you go.
		I don't know.
		And then even more controversial, I've got to at least run this by you.
		There are, I'll warrant, thousands of people across the country right now that believe they are seeing something they have not seen before.
		Now, we all know what contrails are.
		You know, they're condensation, little wispy condensation things that appear behind airplanes, sometimes linger for a little while, but most times just sort of fade away.
		In recent years, on my program and many others, people have begun to talk of what they are calling chemtrails.
		And they believe that something is, I guess that means that you're not too familiar with this or it's just too controversial.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		No, I've heard of the doughnut-shaped contrails, which some people theorize are Pulse-type experimental aircraft engines.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
		No, these are, and I've seen them myself, so I can describe it to you.
		On an otherwise not cloudy day, you will see many jets laying out patterns, frequently an X-type pattern.
		And instead of the normal dispersal of the contrails that you would see, just a slow wisping away, these grow sort of a dirtier color, they expand, and they actually become kind of a dirty, cloudy day.
		And there are many people who believe that there are ongoing experiments, for what reason we're not sure, weather modification or something else, that's being performed by some jet aircraft.
		Pretty wild stuff, I know, but believe me, many people have seen and believe this to be true.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Well, there's even been theory that the jet contrails actually change the weather.
		When you have enough of them, you can actually change the weather with that.
		So, you know, who knows?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Any possibility there could be something to that?
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Well, you know, I personally haven't heard that, and I personally haven't seen anything.
		I've seen contrails that will fan out, depending on what the atmosphere is doing.
		Sometimes they'll dissipate rather quickly, and sometimes they will fan out and look more like cirrus.
		Sometimes you'll have a system moving in ahead of that, and the cirrus will blend in with the contrails.
		You can have, in some cases, it's kind of rare, but you can have contrail shadows where the sun actually hits the contrail and hits a cloud below it, say a cirrus cloud, and you actually see a gray shadow below it.
		But I've never heard a theory of anything like that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're liable to hear it in the next hour.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So then, is it fair to say, do you think, that if attempts at weather modification are going on either in the private sector or in the government sector, they probably wouldn't do a lot of talking about it.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Oh, absolutely not.
		I mean, it's the same stuff going on up there in your neck of the woods.
		I don't think the government would certainly want to be talking about it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		As a matter of fact, the wind here was so bad, they closed the Mercury test site just near us, you know, the atomic test site?
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Closed.
		They closed it today, and they just never do that.
		So that's how it was here.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, well, the wind's probably picked up any of the leftover nuclear stuff and probably blew it all up to where the storms are going to be tomorrow.
		So maybe that'll create a new theory.
		Who knows?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What are good things for people to remember, typical safety tips, as severe weather season approaches, which it is rapidly doing now?
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Well, the best thing is to stay informed by a weather radio.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		That's, to me, is the most important thing you can do, is to stay informed.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Boy, do I agree with that?
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		And another thing is if you're new to an area, if you're new to an area, if you've moved from, say, Las Vegas to Amarillo, Texas, I don't know if that's a good thing or a bad thing, you might want to start learning about severe weather.
		You know, don't just take it for granted that someone's going to warn you.
		There was a tornado warning three or four nights ago in Amarillo, I believe, at 2 or 3 in the morning.
		So never take anything for granted.
		Learn about severe weather.
		And most importantly, have a plan if severe weather strikes.
		If you live in hurricane-prone areas, you want to have specific safety measures for hurricanes.
		If you live in Tornado Alley, you want to have knowledge of what to do, where to go.
		That's always a big question.
		I know you brought that up earlier when you asked what should you do if you were in the farmhouse.
		It shouldn't get to the point where you don't know what to do.
		You should always have a plan.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But it will for many people.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Yes, and one of the saddest things I've seen as a journalist, and it always breaks my heart to this day, it still does, is when you see children killed when a tornado strikes.
		There's absolutely no excuse for that.
		Children have a whole different way of looking at things, at storms and things.
		They expect adults to take them to safety if there's a storm.
		They rely on it.
		So it's always important to have a plan.
		If the kids are at home alone, make sure they have a plan.
		Make sure they know where to go.
		Make sure they know where the shelters are.
		That's the best advice is just stay informed and have a plan.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're going to do a lot of traveling this year?
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
		blast off here in about a week or maybe a little over a week.
		It's nonstop until...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Just stay at the road?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		On the road, do you sleep in the vehicle that you go in or do you stay at hotels?
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Well, I used to stay into vehicles, but Fortune, I don't do that anymore.
		I need a good night's rest nowadays.
		But it used to be in the old days I used to give up lodging and sometimes food to be able to afford gas and film.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Do you have a crew that goes with you?
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		I have a volunteer chase crew.
		As a matter of fact, a lot of them live right there in Las Vegas.
		One of them lives up in my lead partner in chasing lives up.
		Him and his wife live up in Ely.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You've got a wonderful URL.
		I mean, it's a wonderful URL.
		And I understand somebody tried to hijack this from you recently.
		Stormchaser.com.
		That's a hot URL.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Well, they didn't try to hijack that.
		There was a gentleman that was a fan.
		I have a service mark on Stormchaser, which only applies to the service.
		It's not a trademark, not a copyright.
		It doesn't affect the average person using the term, unless for a very specific business, which 99% of the people.
		Well, some guy got the idea he would trademark my name.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Trademark your name.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		WarrenFadley.com, which, of course, you can't do under intellectual property law.
		Right, right.
		I guess the point here is that even with storm chasing, with the little fame I get, there's always going to be these bizarre, really kind of odd things that happen with a little bit of attention.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So I take it you were able to straighten that out.
		I know there are laws that don't really allow that kind of thing.
		You've got to chase it down.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		It was a real pain to have to do it.
		And I can tell anyone listening out there, if you haven't registered your own name, go out and do it.
		It's a lot easier and saves the frustration of having to deal with attorneys and their related expenses.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You know, when you're in the field, do you have internet capability of one sort or another?
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Oh, absolutely.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		You know, a laptop computer is really modernized.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How do you do it, though?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, there's not all that much reliable out there.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Well, believe it or not, with a laptop and a really good cell phone company that has a nationwide-type plant you can use in any location, I can get data.
		Last year, for example, there were only one or two times, and we're talking about Chase Area covers, the Chaseville area of Toyota Valley covers like 250,000, some hundred thousand miles of area.
		There were only one or two times when I was in the absolute middle of nowhere where I couldn't acquire data.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And you get data rates that are useful?
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah.
		Yeah.
		I mean, I'm able to download now full-color radar.
		I'm not going to be able to, I'd have to sit there and wait quite a while or the connection may not be stable enough.
		But generally what I'm looking for, or what any chaser is looking for when they're out there, are surface data and the outlook, like we just discussed here for tomorrow.
		That kind of written text data is generally what you're looking for.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So the people in Minnesota, as a general precaution, with this sort of thing, should be battening down the hatches, huh?
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		I would definitely say you bring in the lounge chairs and anything loose out there that might fly around tomorrow.
		And again, it could change.
		I've seen many days like this when you think, oh, heck's going to break loose.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And it doesn't.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		It doesn't.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		One element fails to arrive at the right time.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		See, that's the danger of what happened to us.
		They give us these big wind forecasts a lot, and it never happens.
		And people get complacent.
		They think, oh, yeah, right.
		And then all of a sudden, it exceeds the forecast, and nobody was ready.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Ready?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		There was some of that that went on in our area today.
		Warren, hold on.
		We'll go to the phones when we get back.
		How about that?
unidentified		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Done deal.
unidentified		We will be right back.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, once again, Warren Fadley is here.
		Warren, just before we go to the phones, take me through, step by step, in some detail.
		Take me through one of your scariest experiences.
		I mean, what you did, how you did it, where you went, the whole thing.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Well, the first thing that comes to mind is hell.
		A lot of people think, well, it was, you know, probably an experience with a tornado.
		I mean, even Hurricane Andrew was scary at times.
		But when I think of sheer terror, when I think of actually really, really, really being afraid, it would have to be a hell storm.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, hail.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		And, you know, you're talking about a softball-size hellstone.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Did you say softball-size?
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Softball-size hellstone.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You know, I've wondered about that for a long time.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		If you have something the size of a softball that is solid ice and it's falling at terminal velocity, what, about 100 miles an hour?
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but a softball fall is about 100 miles per hour.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		100 miles an hour.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That would, well, of course, if it hit you in the head, it would kill you.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah, and there was someone recently killed.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		I believe it was Dallas, Texas, if I remember right, but I was hit in the head by a hailstone.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So you got into a hailstorm?
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		We were driving in southwest Kansas back, I believe it was June of 1993.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Right.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		And just made a mistake, tried to cut in front of a storm and get to the back side of it.
		And first it was rain, but you could see that ugly green, kind of sick green color off to the right of us.
		And we knew we were in big trouble.
		And of course, being out there in the middle of Kansas, in the middle of the field with no shelter, we had no choice but to drive through it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So it's kind of green, you say?
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		It's kind of an eerie greenish color.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		A lot of people see that before a storm, and there's a number of theories we could get into as to why it's not.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I'd like to.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're telling me that that produced softball size?
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		They weren't softballs in that particular storm.
		They were just under baseball size.
		And, you know, it started out with rain, and this was all captured on videotape.
		It started out as rain, and it kind of went to small peace size hell, and you can hear me speaking on the microphone as the tape's rolling.
		And hell just rapidly went from peace size up to marble.
		You could see it in the road, and then it was golf ball.
		Very, very hard hell.
		Sometimes hell's soft, but you could see this hitting the road, and it was pretty much staying intact, so you knew you were in trouble.
		And then tangerine size, and then boom, it was hitting the top.
		Very, very deafening sounds.
		As a matter of fact, some chasers even carry, I know one guy, Namarillo, that carries a pair of headphones to block out the sound.
		It's so deafening loud.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, isn't it destroying your vehicle at that point?
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		It's hitting the vehicle, and considering our speed trying to get out of it in the speed of the hell, it was doing a lot of damage.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So you were trying to drive out of it?
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		We were trying to drive out of it and it was hitting the roof, dinning the roof, dinning the hood and one hit the windshield and it cracked and almost the same second a very large one caved right into the middle right in front of where the video cameras pointed hit right there square with a deafening sound.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You've got this all on video.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		All on video.
		It's been shown on a number of television shows.
		And I looked over at my chase partner Tom.
		I said, you know, can you see?
		Because there was glass flying in the car.
		The windshield was shattered and it was just kind of going in and out from the wind pulsing.
		And it took another hit and I figured it was going to cave in.
		So at that point I had a large map up against my chest thinking, well, you know, the next one is going to come all the way through because there's really nothing holding that windshield together.
		And about that time we got through it.
		And I'll tell you what, it was nerve-wracking to say the least.
		But most chasers will tell you that getting into big hell is very scary.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Can I ask you a question?
		You've obviously got a very expensive vehicle which you have a name for, right?
		Your Archangel?
		Right.
		Your Archangel must be a very expensive vehicle.
		True.
		Right?
		Absolutely.
		So when you go to your insurance company and you go to get insurance and you tell them, I mean, usually they ask what you do for a living, right?
		Well, absolutely.
		How wild are they about giving you insurance?
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Well, I actually have commercial insurance, which covers normal driving.
		I pay the extra and go the full commercial route for the vehicle.
		As far as that kind of damage goes, I self-insure myself.
		As much as people might not like insurance companies, I would not take the advantage of that of going out through my own decision and damage something.
		And just like that storm, I think it ended up doing $700 or $800 damage just to the windows, a couple windows it took out.
		But that's all self-insured.
		I pay for that.
		I don't claim that because that is part of, in my opinion, part of business operations.
		And now, of course, if someone slams into the back of me when I'm driving home from chasing, that's a whole different issue or something that's in the normal course of business.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, here's another big question we had today.
		Then I'm going to get to callers.
		I'm sorry, callers.
		We'll be right with you.
		With the tremendous wind we had here today, there was an argument that went on about whether you're better off having a window cracked open to, in some way, equalize the pressure when you're having like 100 mile-an-hour winds or near 100-mile-an-hour winds, or you're better off having everything sealed up.
		A lot of people say, well, you leave something open, you give the wind an avenue to get in.
		That would certainly be true in a bigger, you know, if there was a bigger opening, but I just don't know.
		What's the answer, or is there one?
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		That's an old wise tell.
		Years ago, they used to say if there was a tornado or a hurricane, you should crack the windows and let the pressure equalize.
		The pressure is not intense enough in those storms to disintegrate and float a building from the pressure.
		And you've got to look at it this way.
		If the wind gets so intense that you're going to have that kind of damage, the windows are going to break out and take care of it themselves.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, as a matter of fact, here in town, there are many, many, many windows that imploded.
		They just flat and plodded.
		That tells you the kind of wind we have.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you don't want to, and the other thing is you run the risk of being in front of that window trying to open it when the glass shatters and being injured.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's a good point.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So in other words, it's generally an old wives tale, and you might as well keep everything closed.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		You're much safer doing that.
		You're much safer to be seeking shelter and thinking about yourself rather than worrying about that.
		Like I say, debris flying through the air is going to take out those windows, you know, no matter what you do.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		I appreciate that information.
		I'll remember it, too.
		First time caller line, you're on the air with Warren Fadley.
unidentified		Hi.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Good evening, sir.
unidentified		Good morning.
		Actually, it'd be now here in Iowa.
		Warren, I got a first experience and a question for you.
		It was an evening many years back driving from the Colorado River, from Lake Cavasu City down to Parker.
		And my dad and I decided to do a little storm chasing of our own.
		And we were driving through a monsoon storm that had been building up all day long and was dissipating pretty good.
		And we started following it, and it was heading along the river.
		And as we were going through it, my dad decided, you know, we better remove the coax off our two-meter antenna, our radio off the pickup truck we were driving there.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's a ham antenna, folks.
unidentified		Yeah, ham radio antenna, two-meter.
		So we undid the coax off of the radio and laid it on the floor.
		Well, we didn't realize the coax is very close to the seat post where it bolts into the floor.
		And we were driving into this storm.
		There was a weird ticking noise inside the vehicle.
		We couldn't figure out what was coming from.
		I happened to look down by my foot and see this blue arc that if anybody knows what a blue arc spark from a spark plug to something grounding looks like, that's the way it looked.
		It'd start out really slow.
		Within just a couple seconds, it'd start arcing very rapidly.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, that's really.
unidentified		It would completely stop, then the lightning would go off.
unidentified		And then it would be like this for a couple, three or four seconds.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Sir, you were in an extremely dangerous situation.
		A two-meter antenna, Warren, is a short antenna.
		Right.
		Maybe 19 inches or maybe double that, but no bigger.
		And so for that to be picking up, that means that he was in the immediate electrical field, immediately under electrical field of a storm, yes?
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Oh, absolutely.
		Matter of fact, our chase vehicles, we probably have four or five antennas on there for CVs and scanners and cell phones and all kinds.
		And also two-meter, 440 rigs we carry to communicate.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're a ham.
unidentified		Oh, absolutely.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, no kidding.
		Absolutely.
		I'm W6OBB.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		KB7TVO.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Glad to meet you.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		There we go.
		But, yeah, when the antennas, you know, a lot of times, believe it or not, I've been there storms and the antennas will actually sizzle and pop.
		And that is the energy building up.
		Now, that doesn't necessarily say there's going to be that connection made between the ground, the cloud, the cloud, and the ground, whichever way it is.
		That doesn't mean that.
		And I have to tell you this story.
		This is really quick, but it's awfully funny.
		I was on top of a mountain here in Arizona shooting lightning a couple years ago, and there were a number of other photographers there watching what I was doing.
		And I heard the antennas and some starting to pop and sizzle.
		Well, I thought, I'm not staying here.
		So I jumped in the truck immediately, packed everything up, and these guys are all just laughing.
		There's Warren the Storm Chaser jumping in his truck when there's a little bit of lightning.
		About five seconds later, a lightning bolt hit, and it must have been maybe a quarter mile away.
		And these guys jumped about two feet off the ground.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Of course.
		So when something, you know, normally I've got like a 100-foot tower here at the house, and I've got 175 feet on each side of the tower coming off 100 feet for low band work.
		And, of course, if you don't have that insulated when there's a lot of wind, you get incredible voltages.
		But, or in a thunderstorm, it gets really mean.
		I mean, you get big arcs that appear in the antenna tuner to ground.
		But, gee whiz, for a two-meter antenna to be taking a charge like that, you're in a very dangerous area.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, absolutely.
		You know, and I don't know what the wisdom would be of unplugging it.
		He may have saved his radio, but, you know, who knows?
		The line, you know, who knows if you're safe or leaving it connected or not?
		That's probably pretty hard to say.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, he said that it was jumping to the seat belt bolt, and that would be the vehicle ground.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I think they were very lucky, because a charge would have come in there.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		They could have been injured.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, my.
		All right.
		Wild card line.
		You're on the air with Warren Fadley.
		Hi.
unidentified		Yes.
unidentified		This is Dr. Bishop here at STRATCOM in Omaha, Nebraska.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		Yes, sir.
		I don't know if you're aware.
		I had a comment and then a question.
		First of all, that you were asking about the predictability of weather, that the actual theory of chaos actually came out of weather prediction by Dr. Lorenzo.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That sounds correct, yes.
unidentified		Okay.
		And my question was concerning tornadoes.
		We had a paper that came around, everybody read, and I think they sent it originally to NASA, that we're telling everybody that it was written by an aeronautical engineer, and he was postulating that a tornado was actually where it gets its power, is where it intersects the Earth's magnetic field, and actually turns itself into an electric motor.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Have you heard that before?
		No, I don't think I have, but it's interesting.
		Warren?
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		I've never heard that before, and I don't know if there's any scientific fact to it.
		Personally, from what I know and what I've seen, I would doubt that would have any effect on it, because scientists have nailed down probably better than 50, maybe 60 percent of what's happening.
		But, again, who knows?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You say they've nailed down 50 or 60 percent.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		I would say so.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So that means there's 40 or 50 percent they don't understand.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely, because there's still a lot of tornadoes that are produced in storms that you wouldn't think so.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So in other words, there could be some physics that are at work that they don't yet know about, right?
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		I don't know that so much of physics involved is some of the mechanisms which may actually lead to the formation of a tornado.
		I think they're very close to unlocking it.
		A couple of researchers in Norman, Oklahoma, I think, are very close to figuring out.
		But one of the problems is, why doesn't the perfect storm produce a tornado?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That is a very good question.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Why not?
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		You can have, and that's one of the big mysteries, you can have a storm.
		I was on one last year that if you look at a radar loop, it was the best storm in the panhandle.
		There was tornado warnings.
		I mean, the thing was perfect, but it would not produce one brief tornado.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You've got to understand, folks, translate, when he says best, it means worst.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		And I don't mean to play that with any kind of disrespect.
		That's just the terminology.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I understand.
		It's just that a lot of people don't.
		They just don't look at the storms the same way a chaser does at all.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		That's probably true.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		But that is one of the mysteries, is why when you have that storm that looks perfect on radar, Why wouldn't it produce a tornado?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And yet storms that don't look at all perfect and sometimes surprise the forecasters totally do produce tornadoes.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
		And there's different mechanisms.
		Some storms produce tornadoes in conditions you would never expect.
		So it's fascinating.
		But I think they're pretty close to figuring out.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		There was a shot CNN got, some video footage that a pilot took that I saw recently, of a tornado in the air, like two or three tornadoes, right out this guy's window.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I wonder if you happen to see that.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Not the reason.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		I'm familiar with the helicopter footage, I believe.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, that's what it was.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm sorry.
unidentified		Minneapolis.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
unidentified		Yep.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, amazing amount of work, considering the danger he was in sometimes as close as he was to that vortex or could have easily been another vortex form near him.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		So he was very, very lucky with that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Those are some of the most amazing, pictures, video footage I've ever seen.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Amazing when you see an entire pine tree flying through the air.
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah.
		Indeed.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air with Warren Fadley.
		Hi.
unidentified		How are you doing?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, sir.
unidentified		Okay.
unidentified		I'm a storm chaser, too, but I restrict myself mostly to hurricanes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What part of this?
unidentified		I'm an expert on hurricanes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Where are you?
unidentified		I'm in New Orleans, Louisiana.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Ah.
unidentified		But I grew up on the East Coast, New Jersey.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		And went through some storm.
unidentified		My first one, I was six years old, and I loved every minute of it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Again, you've got to understand, people don't get this.
		They don't understand.
		A lot of them don't.
		And you can't blame them.
		To them, it's just terrifying stuff.
		It's not fun.
unidentified		I understand.
		But I have a couple questions.
		One is I have a very frustrating situation that you don't have when you chase tornadoes, and that is when I want to go to where I think a hurricane is going to make landfall, I'm not going to be able to get there because they're going to be evacuating.
		I'm not going to be able to get through.
		How do you get through?
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		How would you get through?
		That's a really good question, and I'll tell you something.
		When I covered Hurricane Andrew, I believe it was 1992.
unidentified		Well, I went to Lafayette for that one.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		You know, that was, in my opinion, the last great uncovered hurricane by the media.
		to that point the media you know as Art pointed out earlier would send out one guy to stand there in the in the rain but with all the new cable stations since then and a lot of them have come on on air since then, when there's any kind of a hurricane threat now, I can guarantee you you're going to see massive coverage.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but he wants to know how to get through.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		And the problem with that now is that because of that coverage, what they're doing now is they are the evacuations and the areas that are closing off are happening a lot further in advance.
		With Hurricane Andrew, they didn't really get crazy there until a day or two before.
		I mean, this has been going on.
		They knew it was coming.
		But nowadays, they close up everything real, real, real soon.
		So you have to get there days and days in advance to get access.
		But you really can't.
		You know, that's the problem.
unidentified		You can't do that because it'll change course on you for sure.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		That's true.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		And even as a journalist with all the credentials I have, and if I'm doing consulting work for MSNBC or somebody.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		There are times they won't let you through?
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		They won't let you through.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Now, of course, I spent many years as a journalist before I was a Storm Chaser, so I know some of the ways that it works.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, listen, both of you hold on.
		I'm going to hold you over, Caller, and just stand by.
		I'll bring you back with Warren.
		And we are going to continue to take calls for Warren Faidley.
		Fascinating topic.
		The weather always is.
		Boy, it was wild here today.
		From the high desert, I'm Art Bell.

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