Art Bell hosts Mercenary Gabriel, a six-year veteran of high-risk extractions, who reveals $50K–$100K per client in the Americas and over $100K abroad, including bonded warehouse costs. He claims divine survival after a stabbing and balaclava-clad detention, dismissing torture but admitting lethal force when necessary, like throat-slitting in close combat. Gabriel’s 2002 prediction of a Nevada UFO sighting—backed by 90% of experts in Kreskin’s Future with the Stars—hints at global shifts post-9/11. Meanwhile, he critiques U.S. border security, contrasts bin Laden’s evasion tactics, and defends his "Robin Hood" role, like rescuing a sister from Japan’s sex slavery dungeons. A blind caller’s 1947 UFO claim sparks Gabriel’s cautious nod to hidden forces, though he denies political assassinations. Bell’s show blends Gabriel’s brutal pragmatism with Kreskin’s eerie foresight, leaving listeners to question whether America’s chaos demands such extreme solutions—or if the real conspiracy lies in the shadows. [Automatically generated summary]
I bid you all good evening, good morning, good afternoon, Friday night, Saturday morning here in this part of the good old USA.
This program covered all the way around the world in all 24 time zones.
So, yo, hello there.
Friday night, Saturday morning with, boy, a couple of real changes.
This Friday night, Saturday morning, the short week for me, we're going to do a couple of things.
Number one, we're going to talk to the amazing Preskin here in a moment.
He's done an amazing thing.
Living up to name, I guess, huh?
And he said that there's going to be in May or June, an I.E. right now, or the foreseeable future, there's going to be a gigantic, one of the biggest UFO sightings in all of history, virtually right over my head here in Nevada.
And if it doesn't happen, why he's donating $50,000 to an as of yet unnamed charity.
Then in the second hour, we have booked a fellow who will use a first name only, and I don't even know if it's his first name, and he breaks people out of jail.
He goes around the world, and if somebody's in jail in a foreign country, you hire this guy, and he goes and busts people out.
This is going to be a different kind of interview, too.
He just got out of jail.
It's my understanding, a few minutes before airtime, we had been trying to reach him without luck, not getting an answer.
And apparently he just got out of jail.
So I can't tell you where the next couple of hours are going beyond about that.
Kreskin is a really interesting guy.
For over four decades now, he's dramatized the unique facets of the human mind, including his own.
And all of this began at childhood for him.
And I think most of you really know about the amazing Creskin, the amazing prediction, backed up with $50,000.
That's a lot of money, isn't it?
So in a moment, having heard, I think you all have heard about Kreskin's amazing prediction, we'll talk to Creskin about it and find out how this came to be and why he decided to put up money and all that kind of stuff.
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And the irony of it is that, as a matter of fact, what I was saying, by the way, is that after the show tonight at the Silverton, people, I was doing an autograph saying, we're leaving, we're hurrying to get to a radio at 10 o'clock.
Actually, when I made this prediction in March, I wasn't scheduled to be here.
I didn't even know I was going to be.
It wasn't part of any itinerary.
I was touring Canada, and I was in Ontario, and it's a beautiful country, if you've been there, and different concert each night.
These were two and a half-hour performances.
And a story broke, which you may have discussed, but it was a very fascinating newspiece.
Some researchers had come to the conclusion that in the past year in Canada, this is as of last March, that there were 42% increase in sightings of UFOs in the country.
The reason they had come is that two years, a year and a half ago, the Learning Channel, you know, the cable channel here in the States did one week of documentary, one hour each night on UFOs.
And they had me as one of the consultants for the first and second night to kind of comment on what my thoughts were regarding the abduction stories.
And they just wanted a different viewpoint and studied.
Well, in the abduction incident, and I have felt that I've never been convinced of abductions.
I know that people are sincere, but I felt that most abductions were working best if it were a few guys fishing in a swamp that have been drinking heavily.
So don't misunderstand me.
I know there are some people who are seriously convinced they've been abducted, just as there's some people who have been seriously convinced that they are multiple personalities.
And the pattern, personality pattern, seems to be the same, that the memories seem to be dredged up that they didn't seem to be aware of for a long, long time, which interests me because while we are under the influence, the opinion in the Western world, that under some highly specialized techniques such as hypnosis, people can be made to recall repressed memories regarding hypnosis.
Yeah, but also the interesting thing is that if you really get to know individuals who've had traumatic experiences, such as servicemen, they really don't forget the experiences.
It's very difficult to forget something you don't want to think about.
Try not to think of the word octopus.
And when they're traumatic, what is found, and my background's in psychology, and I've known psychologists through the years, is that they don't talk about it.
Now, I'm not saying everybody, but the light detector, as we know, is a machine.
It's the interpretation of the light detector.
One of my close friends for years, Tom McFadden, who was a very fine polygraph expert in New Jersey, unfortunately past time, used to tell me most of the confessions they got with the polygraph was before they plugged it in.
The machine is ominously scary.
And if you believe it works, it tends to have much more effectiveness than if you kind of have yourself disinterested.
Now, I'm not saying that this proves or disproves.
I believe many people believe they were abducted.
I believe they absolutely believe.
And listen, I am no authority on abductions.
I just had to place it from my viewpoint.
But they came to me in Canada because they were aware of the first two programs and so forth.
And they asked me, and I found it interesting, as you've talked about, the 42% and so forth.
And I came to make a statement.
And that was simply this.
I felt very, very strongly that the next great sightings of UFOs.
And when I say sightings, I don't mean a group of guys, as I said, fishing or a few people portering in some corner of a remote forest.
But I mean, when I say sightings, I mean scores of people, not 10, 15.
Now, they've asked me, just three hours ago, I've been interviewed by people, reporters in Ireland and England, are saying, well, if we've got the map in front of us, can you put it in point?
Jesus, I'm not, forgive me, I didn't mean to put it that way, but I'm not, I don't have contact with anything.
I said it in March, but I'm glad you're tracking me.
After a show, sometimes I get a little bit disoriented.
But it'll be in May or June, and as I said in March.
But when Regis and some of the shows started discussing it three weeks ago, I thought I have to follow through further what I promised I said last March, that when I came back to the States, I would further formalize what my position.
And I went on the Fox News Network.
I've known Roger Ailes, who's the head of Fox for many years since he was with Mike Douglas and then he went to Nixon, worked for Nixon, and then he worked for Reagan and then became Bush's campaign manager the first election.
The second was a disaster for Bush.
Roger left and said he had had it with politics.
He went back to head a network.
I went to them two weeks ago, Monday morning, and handed them a letter in my own handwriting that further said, as I promised, if I fail, that I would turn over $50,000 to them, to the news network staff, for them to distribute to whatever charities they see fit.
I made a clear, concise conclusion after thinking about it for literally a day, a day and a half.
I turned to my road manager and he said, you're out of your mind.
Why are you saying this?
I said, I'm absolutely certain this is going to take place, but I'm also certain, and I hope I'm here.
I'm going home every Monday, Tuesday, and Wednesday because of work in the East Coast.
I hope I'm here the day will happen because one way or the other, I'm going to hold a press conference the next day and explain a couple of things, the further reasons behind this and why I feel in the climate of the world today since 9-11 that this takes on remarkably more serious significance than just some report that's going to be talked about for the next century.
And by the way, before people start misinterpreting me, I, as I've said every night, not only here at the Silverton, but in concerts around the country since March, I am long convinced that there is intelligence beyond this Earth here.
God forbid, Art, we're the only intelligence.
God, heaven forbid, that we're the only intelligence on Earth.
I just can't concede.
Furthermore, I've spent too much time.
It will be in about three months, it has been estimated by the airline people, that I will have flown three million miles, which is more than any commercial pilot in this country or Canada.
The flights are filled because there's not as many flights.
And folks listening in, I don't care what anybody says, this is the safest time to fly.
You can't go on a plane with a pair of tweezers.
I'm sick and tired of news broadcasts sensationalizing the exceptions.
There's always exceptions in life.
This is a wonderful...
I will tell you, and I said this on CNN News...
new year's day why four airlines will go out of business and already two have in this well american was brought in by twa and a Canadian company's already gone.
Sadly enough, it's not going to be the vacationers.
It's going to be the businessman who flies from Newark to Pittsburgh every day and flies home.
He cannot every day go through the two-hour security before the flight and the two-hour coming home every day.
So like the replacement of the saddle with the car, the replacement of airlines will be video conferencing in offices.
It's very sad because this is one of the great industries of our history, airline industry, but this is going to be the price.
You know, I never was into the, everybody knows me as a thought reader, as a mentalist.
If they see me, like tonight here at the Silverton, when Lady Stepped in the audience, I told her the names of her three cats and an address she'd had 10 years ago, which she was thinking about, because if she asked me, where am I going to go next year and didn't know, I couldn't answer.
But nine years ago, CNN News Network came to me and said, come on, New Year's Day, and talk about the future.
I said, I'm not into this business.
I'm really not into this.
They said, Creston, we've got astrologers on.
We've got all this business.
Yeah, but I said they make dozens of predictions.
You remember what comes true, what doesn't.
They said, well, you travel a lot.
Come on.
Well, let me tell you.
I came on.
And we had a little bit of fun.
We started getting calls everywhere.
I said, oh, my God, people are serious about this.
Let me next year reflect upon this.
And I got more and more serious.
And one year, I took a shot at the Academy Awards, and it was the day before, and I handed the producer on the air.
I said, this is the list of the top 12.
We won't announce it.
Put it in a box after you read it, and tomorrow we'll open it.
And I was correct.
They called me the next year.
I said, never again.
I spent 30 hours preparing that list.
30 hours.
I studied the reviews of every single writer in the world I could find and found certain of them were good when they anticipated the best script, but they weren't good with the movie and on and on.
So most predictions, they're like a weatherman you take what exists because nothing in the future is totally excluded from today it's part of a continuation well I don't see the weather guys on the local channel so what I have to tell you so three three years ago I went on boy did the press in New York escape me I said and you ought to realize at the moment I said this on this January 1st it wasn't even a rumor
I said, Hillary Clinton is going to run for office in the United States Senate, New York, and she's going to win.
Well, at that moment it wasn't a rumor.
Then she thought she'd run, and they said no.
Then she ran, and they thought it was going to be a joke, and she won.
The second thing I said that day, and these are all recorded, I said, Bill Gates of Microsoft.
There's a lot of controversy, remember, with the government.
I said, in 11 days, he would step down.
Art, this is, as an entertainer, I'm serious.
That's one of my cherished moments.
I was traveling 12 days.
days later and CNN of course is international with their news they interrupted one of their news pieces said we want to announce just at this moment Mr. Bill Gates has said to step down oh thank you Kreskin I've never been thanked for a headline story in my life so on and on it went and then hold on and then we'll have to wait until after the break here at the bottom of the hour my guest is the amazing Crescent who's made a prediction about the skies above my head from the desert the high
I am absolutely convinced that in May or June of this year, the largest sighting to date will take place in the Nevada desert.
Probably the largest sighting in the past century.
Continuing the quote, I am so convinced of the accuracy of my performance.
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not the same since 9-11 and Stell just whisper something in my ear It's not the same since and events that happen that could have worldwide attention could take on far greater meaning or significance obviously than if something like this happened in a time of peace.
And yet I don't mean I don't have any fear.
I don't feel that there's a presentment of an attack or what have you.
But that's all I can say, right?
Because listen, far be it from me, I'm not reading the thoughts of aliens.
There's once before, this is the, you know, with things as serious as they are now, we have to look.
My hero in the last century was a man by the name of Winston Churchill, whom I never knew, but my God, the more you study him, I mean, the darkest days.
Someone told me, and I worked in England a great deal, and someone who had worked with him and traveled with him.
I could go on for two hours with stories about this.
But anyway, they said one night, and you remember in the, we have studied history in the early 40s, 1941, there were bombs falling every night.
I mean, every night.
And his war officers said to him, the Prime Minister, it's too dangerous.
We've got to close the cinema.
We've got to close the nightclubs and everything.
He jumped up, rammed his fist, and almost broke his hand, ran to the table, and with language I won't say, he said, damn it, what do you think we're fighting for?
Life is going to go on.
We must never cower to anything.
Fear is the most paralyzing thing of all.
But I've got to tell you something on the lighter side.
Gosh, God forbid, if five angels sent by God landed on earth and it wasn't simply the day the earth stood still, you know as well as I do a fair amount of population would attack them.
What has always fascinated me, and I have been privy to people in the intelligence field, as I suspect you have as well, is that during the Second World War, and I know a man who was one of the key heads of it, one of the great fears in the Second World War, and this fascinates me, when there was beginning to become awareness of whether they call them UFOs or not, possibly other sources of intelligence in the universe revealing itself.
Listen to this, Art.
One of the great fears, and it was discussed, I am told, on hundreds of occasions in meetings in the Pentagon, would modern society or how would they handle something if they became absolutely certain that another source of intelligence was higher, much higher than yours and I?
And speculate, we may say, well, we'll accept it easily.
I am not so sure.
I am not so sure.
Oh, I'm not either.
But I got on the other side of the coin a couple of years ago, and I say this now lightly, but it was a nightmare in my life.
I will never, never do this again.
I decided to take a shot at the elections, and of course it was President Bush, and I was Bohr and Bush, and they're running for office, and I went on a daytime show, controversial, but he's been very, very good to me, and that's Howard Stern.
I went on with a statement, and I didn't reveal it.
We put it in a safe on the air with a check for a substantial amount of money.
If I failed, now Stern rightly said, oh, Christian, that's only a 50-50 shot.
And I said, well, that's why I'm putting the money behind it.
Now, let me tell you the background.
What nobody knew is the detective, Detective Otto, who came on with me, I did not know.
He was from a city of New Jersey.
He had quietly read the prediction.
He knew it.
So the idea that it was some magical trick or a Stern, and I agreed to play with it, said, well, maybe there's two compartments in the safe and all this jazz.
Furthermore, I had sent copies of the prediction to five people, two writers, a very famous psychiatrist, the president, one of the presidents of the Gaddette newspaper, all were who told, don't open it until the day.
We were waiting, and forgive me, but I do have fun.
We were waiting for some skeptics to come out of the rafter and say, well, this is some gimmick because I could not sue them for money, but they would have been in trouble.
Now, Election Eve, I come back from a show in Pennsylvania.
It was a corporate affair, and I'm, needless to say, glued to the TV set.
And if you remember that evening, it finally was decided that President Bush had won.
I called 22 people.
I said, oh, don't worry.
My attorney, who said you're insane putting this money at my account?
I said, it's safe.
Then I went through 38 of the most harrowing days of my life.
By the way, during that October, I was performing three shows at the night at Bush Gardens, and I talked to hundreds and hundreds of people from Florida.
And I'm still convinced that had the count been more accurate and thorough, that I would have been wrong and that Gore would have won.
Well, that's only history now.
It's gone.
So finally, when it was all over and Stern Open was safe, and I had predicted Bush.
But I also said, with the disclaimer that this does not involve the money, I also said that Bush would carry 31 states, and if I was wrong, it would be by one.
And he carried 30 states.
But hear this.
Never again will I get involved in a political thing like this.
Unlike other countries of the world who would have handled this, if we look at history with riots and everything else.
But you know, what was interesting about it is it was so remarkably close that if it were done in the form of a movie, it would have seemed to be rather silly and non-convincing in the same way that a year ago New Year's Day.
Too incredible.
And then a year ago New Year's Day on January 1st of the eight or nine predictions I made on CNN, I said that my favorite team, the Yankees, I said, I hope Mayor Giuliani, and of course, he was mayor at that time, and today, Mayor of the World, but I said, I hope Mayor Giuliani is on set.
It's my favorite team, but they're not going to win the World Series this year.
And I was on ESPN a few months ago because they kept saying, I didn't know this, they were quoting me.
If you looked at the last World Series, it was like a movie melodrama.
I said one of the other things I said on New Year's Day, and I talked about lighter things.
I said, oh, Mr. Mayer, with his politically incorrect, will go off the air in six months.
And I just got calls from writers that said, yeah, you hit the nail.
And I said, well, the climate of the show was not appropriate for a time of war, even though I have a lot of respect for a mayor.
I also said something that the New York Times finally corroborated a month and a half ago.
I said something that at the time didn't seem to make sense.
But the economy, as much as a struggle it is, and it's a tough economy, and Greenspan and so forth, their predictions have not been extremely successful or optimistically effective.
But I said New Year's Day, I said, people are going to be buying larger homes or remodeling to larger kitchens.
And boy, did we get slack.
And now, don't you know, three weeks ago in the Times, it pointed out because people are not traveling as much and they're spending time at home with human beings.
In my lifetime, as an Italian and a Polish guy, much of our visitations were in people's kitchens.
But one of my, I say to people, as much as I've in the past year and a half performed in Spain, Italy, New Zealand, Australia, Japan, Saudi Arabia, Wales, Norway, and on and on, I could go, why do you go out of this country before you see places like Lake Tahoe, like Jackson Hole, Wyoming?
Well, I would like to think that the most dramatic prediction I ever made.
I've written a book and I'm going to see to it that a copy gets to you.
There's a story behind this book, and Newsweek, a writer for Newsweek, researched it and said that it is absolutely true that the galleys were printed before 2001.
So anybody who doubts me, you can argue with the Newsweek writer, and he did extraordinary research.
What I did, Art, is I thought to myself, the only one that has a right to foretell the future, the most right is a person in their own field.
So I did something which became a literary nightmare.
I went to 90 people and said, I want you to write a chapter or some pages and reflect upon how your profession will change the next hundred years.
The book is called Kreskin's Future with the Stars.
But art, try to keep 90 people to the fulfilling an agenda of time.
I'm dealing with the mind, the power of suggestion, thought reading.
Now, Johnny Carson, in the 88 shows I did with him, which is, they tell me, is a record of shows.
Well, I just did a few weeks ago, my 108 show with Regis.
But in the 88 shows, what people don't know is that Johnny, Jack Pierce, bless his soul, who was a prop man, would rush on and put behind a prop on the set, a deck of playing cards, and hide it there.
And Carson, I would go on, I would read the thoughts of some of the guests, what have you, but training the break Johnny, who was a magician at one time.
And he'd say to me, you know, Prescott, I do sleight of hand, meaning Carson.
He says, but what you do with the mind with cards, and obviously if you saw me tonight at the Silver's, and by the way, a lot of people, UFO people are coming to ask me questions after the show.
But if you see what happens with cards on stage, and it's not sleight of hand, I mean, I had someone leave the set, go into the back of the theater, and just take a set of cards and concentrate on them.
And I read in the order that they were looking at them, this is why I can't play poker anywhere on the face of the earth.
I mean, you'd be interviewing me in concrete tomorrow.
But anyway, so the month, but I have to tell you something.
If what you say, now that you've made this prediction so public, there's going to be a zillion people out there with video cameras, so, you know, we'll really get to see what happens.
Tonight featuring Coast to Coast AM from May 17th, 2002.
I gave you love.
I bought the queen.
I made it to the top.
I gave you all I have to give.
I didn't have to stop, you floated all sky high, by telling you...
You do get out of the path.
I love you.
Do you keep coming?
Do you keep coming?
You don't keep you.
Do you think you're my girl?
Get it on, let the guard get it on.
Get it on, let the guard get it on.
You feelin'like a car, they got a hubcap down at the halo You feelin'like a car, oh yeah You're an unkling, that's the truth, you're a clone of the girl You turn it in, you're my girl Premier Network presents ourselves somewhere in time.
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I'm not sure where we're headed now, but it's going to be to a strange place.
That much I can tell you.
My guest's name, he tells us his name is Gabriel.
Probably Isn't.
I don't think it is.
In fact, we'll ask about that.
But he says Gabriel.
Now, Gabriel is the person that you and your family would want to find when all hope is otherwise lost.
In other words, you've already given up for dead.
D-E-A-D, and there's absolutely no one left to help you when you're in some foreign jail or taken hostage by guerrillas.
He's engaged in and survived mortal combat on a daily basis on almost every continent on the earth for the past six years, privately educated and homeschooled in martial arts, close quarters combat, survivalism, weapons, tactics, drama, trauma, field of medicine, as well as linguistics over the course of 13 years, and I bet a lot of drama.
Gabriel's interests include Eastern philosophy, mysticism, martial arts of all sorts, meditation, traditional Chinese medicine, astronomy, rhetoric and linguistics, verbal and nonverbal persuasion.
Verbal and nonverbal persuasion.
Ancient civilizations and archaeology, musical performance, musical composition and arrangement, jazz, history, Western medicine, survival skills, tactics, preparedness, zombology, botany, culinary pursuits.
He's a bad guy.
Or maybe he's a good guy.
Really a very good guy.
It depends.
To some, I guess he'd be considered a terrorist, right?
And to others, he'd be considered angelic.
Going into some foreign country, probably killing people and getting your loved one out.
So it just depends on how you look at these things.
Anyway, it's going to be a strange trip, and it's coming right up.
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I know that sounds odd, but I'm armed when I sleep.
When I'm walking around in America, there's no need for me.
I mean, there's very few people or groups of people that I don't have the ability to handle on a fist-to-cuff sort of level in a close-quarter combat, open-handed scenario.
Somebody else got caught with something or did something and then decided that they weren't about to handle it and said, hold on, I can pass you off to somebody else.
Usually, because of the areas, other places in the world that I would be working in, things like this have happened in the past to other people.
And when they happen like that, there sort of becomes a phone chain, if you want, to say people that know that this has happened to some people, and then they can put you in contact with other people.
Because of the fact that there's so much going on in the international scene these days, they can't use the kind of pull that the United States had before.
But basically still, you take a team, if necessary, and you go into a foreign country, and you probably end up in a firefight killing people, and you go get somebody for a whole bunch of money.
That's what you do.
Yes.
What if somebody's kidnapped and they're in jail in Peru and they don't have any money?
He goes into foreign countries and kills people and breaks things.
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Let's make them every time.
You may come on.
You know what?
She'll be so inviting, I want her all for myself.
Oh, temptation eyes, looking through my mind, my soul.
Temptation eyes, you gotta love me, gotta love me tonight.
Alright, it's coming on, we gotta get right back till we start to go on.
Love is good, love took it gone, we gotta get right back to where we started from.
She'll remember that day, that song she sang.
When you won't take my way, I wanna take your place my baby.
I can put that smile back on your face When it's alright and it's coming on We gotta get right back to where we started going Love is good, love can be gone We gotta get right back to where we started going Love is
good, love is good, love is good Can never make it.
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All right, if you go into a country and you get this person out of jail and you have to kill in the process of doing that, then perhaps not from your own point of view, nor the point of view of those listening, since, you know, you're a patriotic American, you're not a hitman, right?
But to the people who got hit with the bullets that you threw, to those people, you're a hitman.
Well, I know of some people, soldiers, that tend to like to walk up on the bodies of the people that they've just taken their lives and see the look on their faces.
Usually you want somebody that's a little rough around the edges, more than a little, but is smart enough to know when to keep his mouth shut and his head down.
You would also want to try and find people that have private backgrounds, private lifestyles.
You don't want people that are very uppity, social, butterfly type of people.
You want people that you can pretty much imagine them staying away in their little cabin in Montana or Nevada or Arizona until they come out to do their job and then they go back to go fishing.
All of my armament and weaponry is legal under my particular name.
I have no reason to have illegal weapons or anything like that.
That sort of thing is provided and procured by the client in an international outsourced basis.
And it's just waiting for you where you...
Sometimes we go through the air.
Sometimes we come up in the water.
Depends on we do more than just break people out.
We do asset recovery.
I'll give you an example.
There are a lot of times.
People's money, property.
That's another big thing that I'm into now that I've been doing a lot of is taking back people's land for them in foreign countries where the dictatorship has taken it from them.
I mean, if you forcefully take back land and you're in the middle of a dictatorship, then you're going to have to have a virtual army there to keep that land.
So you've probably always thought, and it may be true, that the agencies would kind of look at what you're doing with a wink and a nod, a sort of, okay, well, let these guys take their shot, you know, and if they can get it done, fine, we're not involved.
Well, I mean, you know, basically, as long as you're serving their purpose in a wink and a nod sort of way, I would imagine they would leave you alone.
You'll find that it works a hell of a lot better than trying to get back to your nice, safe wife and kids and home and white picket fence and all that crap.
I just had the unwary feeling that somebody was going to come through the door in the next couple of moments while I was on hold, and then you'd be dead air going back and say, where did he go?
well you know what just happened to you it's something you can't rule out and now right so an obvious question is you know are you sitting there with a you Aren't you sitting there with a gun?
I'm not going to say whether I am or not, but I will say that after I was taken to where I was taken, when I got back, I just got back a couple of minutes before you came on the air.
In fact, I don't know how the heck I'm talking to you.
It has to be divine intervention because I should, one, I should be dead.
Well, there's nothing wrong with saying I'm sitting here with a gun.
I've had a gun for years and years and years.
Ever since I was 12 years old, I've always realized I've got a gun sitting right here.
I wouldn't be without it.
I've always had the point of view that, you know, if you live out in the country, the sheriff is going to do everything he can for you, but he's still going to arrive, you know, in 20 minutes, which would be enough time to put the chalk line be around your body there.
That's what the sheriff is going to be able to do.
So if you're going to protect your life, you're going to have to do it yourself.
Roaring through the nighttime from the high desert, Alan in Mesa, Arizona says, I just heard your guest say something that tells me he's probably real.
I'm an old door gunner from NOM, and I always told myself before going into a hot LZ that I was already dead.
That's real.
I don't know.
It's for you to decide.
There are certainly people who do what the man we call Gabriel here does.
You can be damn sure of that.
Whether he's one of those or not is in the middle of what I guess you're all deciding right now.
But Alan and Mesa thinks he's for real.
We'll be right back.
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Tonight featuring Coast to Coast AM from May 17, 2002.
And, you know, to Larry, that seemed like a very real statement, that you almost have to sort of mentally write yourself off so that If you get in a situation of mortal combat, you're prepared to die if it comes to that.
It's an old trick used by the samurais of the feudal Japan, where they consider themselves already dead, and then that gave you the ability to fight so fiercely that your life force, your spirit, basically gave you the power to overcome whatever obstacles or combat situations that you would be involved in.
So then, you really more or less know, as the person who's running the operation, when you're putting somebody in a probable less than 50-50 situation.
People can say whatever in the hell they want, but you're right.
Money drives everything, and it certainly would drive something like this.
And I can understand that.
And I guess I can understand there are people who would go into a situation where there's less than half a chance they're going to come out alive for $100,000, huh?
At least.
A lot of situations where you have to, for example, use a Blackhawk or a helicopter of some sort for insertion.
Well, isn't it time for you to shut off everything?
In other words, you said you might not make it through this year.
Now, you must put, you obviously, even though you write yourself off as dead when you're going into an operation, still, in the larger picture, you put some value, I'm sure, on your life.
I would be very out of line if I said that I could do this for another couple of years or till I'm 30 or 40 and even have an assemblance of having a chance.
Can you take a couple of operations that are now history and without giving me specific details and names of clients or anything like that, can you give me the details of how you executed a couple of operations?
Threat elimination is particular individuals, may they be businessmen, businessmen, or anybody of that sort of nature, who comes in contact with a threat that is provocated towards them, their family, or their property, whether it be abroad or in the domestic United States.
And what you do is you map it out.
You see exactly where that threat is coming from.
You do your analysis of how you think it would turn out if your assistance wasn't provided.
And then you try and intercept in the appropriate amount of time to produce a positive outcome.
On every team, you have certain people that perform certain operations.
You have your intelligence men, your radio men, you have a team leader, you have grenadiermen, you have weapons specialists and demo experts.
And when you take a particular team to a particular area for a particular op, in this case it was long range, you would have more than one sniper available, yes.
I spend a great deal of time training by myself, but I tend to put myself in the most realistic, life-threatening situations when I'm going through training to try and create the realism that I'll deal with on a daily basis.
I've spent a good deal of time throughout my training where that's happened, yes.
A good deal of time.
I would say over 100 that you could count if you were to call up particular law enforcement agencies and you had my real name where the things were actually involved in.
And when circumstances outside of your control come into play, the more organized you are, chance favoring the prepared mind and all, the better opportunity you have to come out.
And I am, I may have gotten kicked out of the Boy Scouts when I was a kid, but damn if I didn't follow the motto.
Well, anyway, they've got some pretty tough customers over there.
They look at you really carefully.
Here's my point.
If American alphabet agencies are aware with a wink and a nod or whatever with some of the things you do, you've got to pass through customs and immigration, usually, I would imagine, or at least in many cases.
And the alphabet agencies in these other countries probably are going to be aware of you.
There's no way that I could have built up all this stuff that I have in my mind and in my soul and in my spirit without having many lifetimes to build upon.
As certain recent occurrences have proved, the telephone is not exactly the safest, safest mode of information transfer, especially since that it can be traced.
Once you figure out the logistics and geographics of it, and then you get everything into play, you can then go on to sort of figure out exactly what sort of situation-specific intricacies that you need to train on.
If there's a particular house that you're going into, what the map of a prison might be like, things like that.
I'm on the way, cause I see all the bad guys, but you're saying, yeah, he's like me, oh, why can't I get here?
Nothing but a heart ain't everything, yeah, but a heart and tears come all the way, and it's hard to get away, cause I just can't win, yeah, he's like me, oh, why can't I get here?
Can't I get here?
I got a lot of those heart ain't, I got a lot of those tears come all the way, nothing but a heart ain't
everything, nothing but a heart ain't everything, nothing but a heart ain't everything, I got a lot of those tears come all the way, and it's hard to get away, cause I just can't win, yeah, he's like me, oh, why can't I get here?
I got a lot of those tears come all the way, I got a lot of those tears come all the way, and it's hard to get away, cause I just can't win, yeah, he's like me, oh, why can't I get here?
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Tonight featuring Coast to Coast A.M. from May 17th, 2002.
It's all for you to decide for yourselves with respect to what you're hearing.
And I'm doing that myself as I'm listening, learning all of this for the first time right along with you and sort of balancing it all in my mind.
I know for sure there are people who do what Gabriel says he does.
There's no question about it.
These people exist.
Whether he's one of them or not, I guess you're making up your mind as we go.
And it's a very interesting program.
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It's way out there.
These groups of extraterrestrials that are unfriendly, many of which are hiding down there at the bottom of the ocean, why don't they want us to know about this?
We've lost people in wars with UFOs.
You know, we spend a lot of time honoring our heroes, and we have heroes that we don't know about.
It's disturbing to that extent because we have a debt to people who've defended us, and we'll never know who they are.
Somewhere in Time with Art Bell continues, courtesy of Premier Networks.
But, like I said, the point is not so much the skept to try and prove the skeptics.
I mean, I go out and prove it to myself every day, so that's you have to be you have to be stable enough within yourself to be able to accept people coming at you because of what they don't understand.
But the interesting thing is, in my line of work, you have that you have that shield of anonymity and the cloak of obscurity around you, and I'm kind of opening myself up.
Our military right now, I don't know what's wrong, but they're no much, our military is no much going to get Bin Laden than we are to get Saddam Hussein.
I think you have millions of listeners.
If we sent you money, Art Bill, you know, at least $10, I'll give $100 of my own money.
If you put it in a bank or something, and we got at least half a million or $600,000 to give to this guy to get Bin Laden's head in a jar.
On the surface, they're selling us oil and they're doing business with us, but they really hate our guts.
That's the truth.
And the truth might hurt.
And I know Washington smooths it over.
But the fact of the matter is the Saudis don't much want us over there at all and don't like our presence, don't like our women, don't like anything about us.
And I have actually done operations because of those, just the exact thing that you talked about.
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So what I'm trying to say is the political knowledge that our family had and maybe with the contact of someone that you do is more than just finding somebody with courage or patriotism or wants a dollar to go in.
This is really a sophisticated thing through it because you're talking a hierarchy in Japan that got to somebody that got to somebody else.
I feel sorry for the people that we couldn't get out.
Secondly, I was just sitting here thinking, you know, maybe what had happened to you happened to you to stop you from doing something in the future, maybe from something in the past, because maybe just talking to someone like me over something that could be or would be or, you know, just...
There's, you know, there's a damn good possibility of that.
You could have hit the nail right on the head, and I just don't know.
I mean, the events that transpired for me in the last 48 hours took me completely by surprise.
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Completely by surprise.
Because of my involvement, like that I had with my sisters, with someone like you, people know of that involvement in it, and it's a small circle.
And I can honestly say, after that happened, a couple years later, I had an episode happen, and I get a phone call from someone, and they need some help.
They keep them in extremely close conditions, awful, like dungeon sort of conditions, and they let them out to service their potential clients, wherever they might be.
Listen, Gabriel, I have a question for you, and I know this may seem a little bit off the wall.
And initially, I know that you haven't been in this business long enough to know the answer specifically to this, but like in my case, I'm an accountant, and I picked up a lot of analytical skills from doing auditing and things like that.
And that applies across the board to other things then.
I want to know what you think about the way he was killed, who or what group it was that may have been the contractor on that, and who might have contracted that.
A lot of times when you are doing that sort of operation, you have one particular piece of a firearm that has a traceable serial number, and you have to replace that particular piece with other pieces.
The reason for that is obviously the traceability factor.
Now, as far as I'm not very specific with the details other than the gun, I know that the gun was a bunch of different pieces put together.
Normally, if I were to do a job, it would be your armament would be stock.
Well, I'm sure he wanted you to answer who killed Vince Foster and probably who was on the grassy knoll and whatever else you could tell us, but there's no reason why you would know that necessarily.
Most people, I think one of the reasons, Gabriel, that most people are probably saying, oh, come on, this has got to be DS is because this is so, what you do is so far out of their frame of reference.
I try and let you figure out what to believe all on your own based on what you're hearing.
My guest calls himself Gabriel.
The things he does, most of us, even though we watch them on TV and in the movies, when we consider them in actual life, we consider them probably repulsive.
Killing, maiming, torturing.
To the good sometimes to try and get somebody out.
But again, you know, it's all perspective.
I mean, one person's hero is definitely another person's terrorist.
So it depends on your perspective.
Tough work.
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Tough work.
You're listening to Art Bell, Somewhere in Time.
Tonight featuring Coast to Coast AM from May 17, 2002.
I'll just tell you that part of the screening process that this man went through included somebody who was himself in an operational sort of unit for a long time.
So for whatever that means.
The man's name is Gabriel, and you've been listening to what he does.
We're continuing to take calls.
And so, Gabriel, here we go.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air with Gabriel.
I was curious, I was wondering if you have ever been approached by maybe a certain individual or organization to perhaps seek out an American politician?
And that's how truly, ultimately, totally important the Second Amendment is.
They didn't mean it, mean anything other than what it does, and that is you have the absolute right individually to protect your own life and that of your family.
Well, have you had, I went public on the radio on the 22nd of this month.
Also a year ago, I had to put the book together over the number of people that have come forward to me right here locally within 40 miles of Pendleton with their information, their stories, their abductions.
And it's quite interesting to find out that there are so many people, but they're afraid to say anything unless they talk to me.
Sure, but let me take this question changed a little bit.
There are many, many Americans who believe, even though we've got the best government, and I'm, boy, I'm totally behind that.
We do.
But there are many Americans, Gabriel, who believe that there's a power structure beneath and aside from and separate from the elected officials we know that operate outside, totally outside the bounds,
even within this country, of every civil right you think you have, a total underground government that exercises its own justice for its own goals, whatever people believe those to be.
Do you think there is such an operational reality in this country?
Well, we'll find out, because I'm hoping that I can sort of resolve in my mind the extent to which you're being truthful about all this by just simply talking shop with you for a minute.
Why don't you, can you tell me what bullet weight you would use that, uh, Anyone trained in the discipline of sighting can tell me in an instant what the bullet drop is going to be for their bullet, say a 168 grain match, boat tail, 400 yards.
Why don't you tell me what the wind deflection would be at 400 yards with a 10 mile an hour wind?
The most basic question that you have to be able to answer in any sniping advanced marksmanship situation.
Mm-hmm.
What is the wind deflection of a 168-grain bullet or a typical match load?
You said you used PMC ammunition, which is of generally such poor quality that I can't even imagine why anybody would use that for a sniping application.
But maybe you could tell me what the 10-mile announcement is.
I just want to say to Gabriel, I didn't catch all the program, but what I've heard thus far, all I wish is the best of luck to you, sir, and thank you for your endeavor and what you are doing.
But I personally wanted to say that, you know, with our other dangers that are going on, that the government are trying to hide from us with this terrorism stuff and the shadow government doing what they think, I suppose, I would like to think, you know, is best for us and all this other stuff we don't know that's going on.
But some of us that do and have connections to the underground and know what's up and, you know, it's really the people like you and for all the skeptics out there, people that, you know, are like you if they don't think it's you.
Which is fine.
That, you know, you guys are the protectors.
You're the other heroes of America.
You guys are the fighters, the ultimate fighters of freedom.
You put yourself, you put your lives on the line, you know, and you have to do what's necessary.
And what you do is no different from what our own government does.