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unidentified		Welcome to Art Bell Somewhere in Time.
unidentified		Tonight featuring Coast to Coast AM from February 21st, 2002.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		From the high desert in the great American Southwest I've been told.
		Good evening, good morning, good afternoon, wherever you may be across this great world of ours, the planet, all 24 time zones covered by this program.
		It is Coast to Coast AM, and I'm Mark Bell.
		And I would like to welcome a new affiliate tonight, WRGA in Rome, Georgia.
		5,000 watts in Rome, Georgia, on 1470.
		Good regional station there, the GM Greg.
		We get a break to Michelian, I believe it is.
		Break Michelian.
		And the PB Randy Quick.
		Welcome.
		Glad to have you on board.
		What is a different kind of radio program?
		And tonight indeed different again.
		I don't know, maybe you've got to be the right age.
		Not really, though.
		Not this day of oldie stations.
		But I'm the right age.
		And Eric Burden and the Animals.
		I'll tell him when he was here.
		Eric Burden is going to be on.
		Should be kind of interesting.
		A lot of stories about Jimi Hendrix and Eric Burden, the animals.
		Now, I was in the Air Force, and I was stationed for the most part of my time in the Air Force in the Far East.
		With the exception of that here in the U.S., it was all in the Far East.
		Okinawa, the Philippines, Vietnam.
		And there were some songs that were almost like national anthems to people in the service.
		Like getting out of this place.
		We got to get out of this place.
		Oh, man.
		That was a national anthem.
		House of the Rising Sun.
		It's like a national anthem.
		You're in the service.
		Doesn't matter where you are, wherever you are normally in the service.
		You just hate it on principle.
		I don't care whether it's the Hawaiian Islands, wherever you are, it's the rock.
		It's where you are.
		It's where you have to be, and so you don't like it.
		sorta uh...
		later memories revise that but at the time those songs All right, now the scariest part of the show.
		The news.
		I figured out, of all the things that I do, reading the actual news at the beginning of the program is probably the scariest stuff you'll hear.
		Our president, President Bush, sought to dispel China's doubts of distrust of America, urging the Communist Chinese on Friday to embrace liberty, tolerance, and religious freedom.
		Dissent is not revolution, said Bush.
		I'm sorry.
		I just, you know, I know the Communist Chinese.
		And I can assure you, whatever they're going to embrace, the last ones are going to be liberty, tolerance, and religious freedom.
		It just is not going to happen.
		Not without regime, not with the regime that's there now.
		I shouldn't be laughing about this, but there's absolutely zero chance, and those would be the last on their list to embrace.
		You know, that's a serious police state over there.
		Pakistani authorities said today a videotape showing Wall Street Journal reporter Daniel Pearl being killed by the Islamic extremists who kidnapped him a month ago has arrived and they do believe he is indeed dead.
		The president making a comment and Musharif is acting swiftly, he says, to apprehend each and one of the gang of terrorists involved in the killing.
		The southern Philippine waters had some trouble for us today, as in the U.S. and the Philippine military forces.
		A U.S. Army helicopter carrying 10 Americans crashed into the sea MH-47 Chinook, which was faring troops in a counter-terrorism exercise.
		We're kind of moving into the Philippines now in the war on terror.
		There was no mechanical trouble reported, nor was there any rebel activity that might have affected the flight.
		So there are no survivors as far as I know, and they have no idea why it went down.
		Ayaser Arafat is scrambling to see some arrested and try and probably move some of the tanks out from his front door.
		But they're still hitting his West Bank office.
		And the situation in Israel is deteriorating quickly.
		Military jets flew hundreds of sorties against a major rebel stronghold today, bringing Colombia's 38-year civil war to a potentially bloodier phase.
		So things are going wrong down in Colombia.
		And then in Toms River, New Jersey, a retired police officer, for absolutely unknown reasons, shot and killed his 22-year-old granddaughter today, then promptly went door to door and killed three neighbors.
	Police said John Mabel 70, retired from Newark police in 76, was charged with four counts of murder.
	Bail said at $3 million.
	He was arrested as he sat on the front lawn of his home on his steps the 38 revolver.
	So he killed his granddaughter and then went house to house, killing as many as he could Kill.
	Now you see what I mean.
	Oh, and a little bit of information that might not be out there otherwise from Georgia.
	This is from Billy in Georgia.
	And he says the total now in Georgia at the crematorium that didn't do its job is 290 bodies found.
	They found that a lake on the property, in fact, does contain more bodies, according to Billy, and are planning to drain it.
	Investigation is costing Georgia residents about a million dollars every single day.
	He says, so far, now this is pretty interesting.
	You remember I said I just didn't buy the whole motive of why this guy would have just disposed of bodies instead of cremation.
	So far, bodies dating back 18 years have been positively identified.
	A judge, according to Billy, has issued a gag order after the above information was released.
	So this may be the last we hear for a while.
	Billy lives about 30 miles from the scene.
	Now, I didn't buy the Machine Didn't Work story when I heard it.
	I don't buy it now.
	And I certainly don't buy it over a period of 18 years.
	There is something else, something very serious going on there.
	Here's another piece of news you might not have heard.
	This comes from the Times Night Ritter Tribune News Watch, business news watch, in fact.
	An Alexandria woman said that she saw a flare or rocket ascending toward a U.S. Airways flight landing at Ronald Reagan Washington National Airport last month, similar to a report from a Southwest Airlines pilot landing at Baltimore, Washington International Airport on Sunday.
	The Federal Aviation Administration is investigating a report by the pilot of Southwest Flight 454 that he saw what looked like a model rocket pass on the left side of his aircraft on Sunday evening.
	FAA says it has no reports of the rocket sighting by the Alexandria resident.
	And she said it was kind of like a rocket, a reddish thing that came up from the riverbank.
	She said it was aimed toward the back of the jet.
	Maybe the pilot didn't see it.
	She said she doubted that it was a model rocket.
	Didn't look like any model rocket I've ever seen.
	Said her son used to play with them, knows what they look like.
	It was right toward the back of the jet, right behind the engine, and went in at an angle like it was aimed at the jet.
	She added, however, the object didn't get close enough behind that it could have brought down the airplane.
	But, you know, obviously the implication here is, if true, that somebody fired something at a commercial airliner, and one other airliner pilot saw something zoom by his window as well, so you have to wonder what might be going on out there.
	I've got a story here entitled Antimatter Atoms Captured for the First Time.
	Coming up in just one moment.
unidentified		The Shack.
		The Shack.
		Now we take you back to the night of February 21st, 2002, on Art Bell, Somewhere in Time.
		Music.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		This is kind of interesting.
		This is a Minchio Kaku kind of topic, and we'll sure ask him about it.
		Antimatter atoms, among the most elusive matter in the universe, have been captured for the first time.
		According to the standard model of particle physics, every particle has a corresponding antiparticle with the same mass and opposite charge.
		The pair annihilate each other on contact, releasing a burst of energy.
		Scientists have wondered if they might be able to harness this energy, but they found it difficult to make and control anti-atoms.
		Late 1990s, up to nine anti-hydrogen atoms were detected in particle accelerators at CERN and at Fermilab near Chicago, but they were moving at almost the speed of light, much too fast to be stored or even studied.
		Now researchers on the AT-TRAP, ATR-AP experiment at CERN, the European Lab for Particle Physics near Geneva, think they have made and stored thousands of anti-atoms indefinitely in a particle trap.
		This is really something.
		The team led by Gerald Cabressel of Harvard University used powerful magnetic fields to trap antiprotons found in the debris of collisions in CERN's particle accelerator.
		Then they introduced a beam of anti-electrons or positrons and used an electric field to slow them down and bring the two types of particles together.
		When the group exposed the particle trap to an electric field, some particles failed to move, suggesting that the charged antiparticles had bound together into neutral anti-hydrogen atoms.
		So I wonder what this is going to mean for mankind.
		You know, you hear of this kind of story.
		The atom bomb was bad, the hydrogen bomb was worse.
		And if they have actually succeeded in trapping and holding antimatter, then I've been told, or at least I believe it would be true, that an antimatter weapon, and they're not going to start by making antimatter cancer cures.
		Somebody's going to want an antimatter weapon.
		And if this is the first little foot in the atomic door, or should I say, antimatter door.
		Everything's atomic in some sense, but in the antimatter door, then mankind may have a big surprise coming down the road.
		And we handled so far element 92 without self-destructing.
		I wonder how we're going to do with antimatter.
		And you may recall the movies about the construction of the atom bomb and the scientists who were irradiated and died horrible deaths in the Manhattan Project.
		And I wonder what happens if you make a similar mistake, but this time with antimatter instead of something coming to a rapid critical mass in your face.
		Matter and antimatter.
		West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Hello.
unidentified		Hey, Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hey, there.
unidentified		You know, I've got an idea.
unidentified		What might have happened at this crematorium down in Georgia?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Over a period of 18 years.
unidentified		Yeah.
		What if it is the first actual vampire?
		The fire.
		If this is the first time we've ever actually found a vampire's lackey, and those people weren't actually dead when they were put there?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, at this point, with a gag order and no more information coming out, I suppose you could speculate about anything you wanted, but that wouldn't be my first.
		But I don't have a first thing to jump to.
		I don't have a clue, and I don't buy the machine thing at all.
unidentified		They've only identified five bodies.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I don't buy the machine thing at all.
		I mean, 18 years, come on.
		There's something really serious, something else here at work.
		I really wish we could know, but now there's a gag order, apparently, and so maybe we won't.
		I appreciate the call, sir.
unidentified		You're welcome.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
		I probably wouldn't leap to the vampire thing, but.
		The reason given so far is not what I feel is the ultimate reason at all.
		So I don't think we know it all yet.
		On the first time caller line, you are on the air.
		Hello.
unidentified		Hello, Art.
unidentified		How's it going?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Going okay, sir.
unidentified		Hey, this is Joseph here in Atlanta.
		Okay.
		I am calling.
		I've been trying to get some information to you, or at least get in contact with you, about a supposed guest or a suggested guest for your show.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All ears.
unidentified		Robert K. Brown.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And who is Robert K. Brown?
unidentified		He is a retired military general who is also the head publisher and editor of Soldier of Fortune magazine.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, no kidding.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		He probably would make a very interesting guest.
unidentified		He has been in and out of Afghanistan over, I think, about an 18-year period.
unidentified		His contributing editors have fought with the Taliban and fought against the Taliban.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, really?
unidentified		Yeah, and his contributing editors and himself have been into Colombia, Angola, South Africa, all over the world.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All the world's hotspots, huh?
unidentified		Exactly.
unidentified		And he would be the le creme de la creme of a good interview.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		We'll look into it, sir.
		Thank you very much.
		Yeah, I bet there would be a lot of stories that could be told.
		Stories that it's really amazing to me how many stories just never make it to the news.
		You never hear them.
		You know, unless you're listening to long-form talk radio like this, you're never going to hear them.
		This may be the only...
		That has happened many times.
		But other times, you will only hear it here.
		It will never go anywhere else.
		Doesn't mean it's not true.
		It just means that for some collective, interesting reason, the mainstream press doesn't print it.
		West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Hello.
unidentified		Hello?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello?
unidentified		This is Jeremy.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, Jeremy, turn your radio off.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's the first lesson.
unidentified		Sorry.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, where are you, Jeremy?
unidentified		I'm in Washington.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		State or D.C.?
unidentified		State.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
unidentified		What's up?
		Yeah.
		Like, there was a caller on the show the other day.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		And, well, they said, like, something about pop bottles frozen or something like that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, no, no, no, no.
		That was an email I read.
		The tree branches cracked and, you know, he ducked.
		He thought he was about to get hit in the head.
		And this frozen pop bottle plops down on the ground along with the broken branches.
		He took photographs, called the police, sent photographs to us, and I've got them on the website.
		Yes, what about?
unidentified		Well, look, another guy called says that there's no three-liter pop bottles.
		somebody said that yes yeah well i think uh...
		maybe a month ago uh...
		i want to store called right and Yeah, they have three liters.
		There's, like, I think they were made by the brand of Rite Aid, I guess.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Yeah, some other people told me that, too.
		It's still a very interesting story, huh?
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Thanks for calling.
		Have a good morning.
unidentified		You're listening to Arc Bell Somewhere in Time on Premier Radio Networks.
		Tonight, an oncore presentation of Coast to Coast AM from February 21st, 2002.
		I know I always get by.
		I love them.
		If something comes in my way, I'm going round it.
		Don't let life get me down.
		Gonna take it the way that I found it.
		I got music in me.
		I'm gonna open up your gate.
		And maybe tell you about Phaedra.
		And how she gave me life.
		And how she made it in.
		Some velvet morning when I'm strange.
		Flowers growing on a hill.
		Driving flies and duffel deals.
		Learn from us very much.
		Look at us, but do not touch.
		Phaedra is my name.
		Some velvet morning when I'm straight.
		I'm gonna open up your gate.
		Open up your gate and maybe tell you about Phydra and how she came alive and how she made me listening to Ark Bell somewhere in time tonight featuring a replay of Coast to Coast AM from February 21st, 2002.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Little Coast to Coast AM factoid.
		There have been nine M-class solar flares in the past 20-make 48 hours.
		Last 48 hours.
		Likely geomagnetic storms directly ahead.
		The sun really, really is acting up.
unidentified		The sun really, really is acting up.
unidentified		Now we take you back to the night of February 21st, 2002, on Art Bell, Somewhere in Time.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		This is interesting.
		Chuck in Toledo said, hey, Art, we got to get out of this place was a Vietnam song.
		Sorry, not any other place.
unidentified		Chuck, you're crazy as a loon.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's what I would tell you.
		It was played not just in Nam, but all over the world.
		Just every military base that exists anywhere, anytime, ever played that song.
		So I don't know where you got the idea that was Nam song only.
		Not true.
		Trust me.
		Wildcard line, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hello.
unidentified		Hi, Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello.
unidentified		This is Chris from Minnesota.
unidentified		I've been trying to reach you since you had your show about controlling the weather.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yes.
unidentified		We've had just the strangest weather here.
unidentified		I live a little over an hour from the Twin Cities South, and our tulips and daffodils are already starting to come up.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I know, I know, Chris.
		There's another story on Noah about the last three months being the warmest recorded in history.
		Now, I've been getting this again and again and again and again.
		The story comes up about every three months.
		Now, that's beginning to tell us something.
unidentified		Well, what's really weird is not even a week ago, it was about 50 degrees.
		Then two days ago, we had thunder showers move.
		Now, Tuesday, our forecasted weather is a high of 8 degrees above zero and a low of minus two.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I know.
		This is February.
		So it's wrong.
		I don't know what else to tell you, Chris.
		The weather is changing, and it's wrong.
		Now, whether it's by man's intended hand, unintended hand, by some natural method, I don't know, but I don't think there's any argument left.
		The weather is changing beneath our feet quickly or actually above our heads, more likely.
unidentified		Well, it sure seems to be.
		Yep.
		Yep.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No question about it.
		Thank you, Chris.
		Throughout the country, you would get similar stories in flowers.
		I'll tell you here, our days are now suddenly, all of a sudden, out of nowhere.
		We were in a deep freeze for a little while, and now all of a sudden, here it is in February, and the apple blossoms are shooting out, and everything living in the desert has concluded that it's time to start doing its spring thing.
		So it has begun.
		And that's the situation pretty much across the country.
		West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Hello.
unidentified		Hello, Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, hello.
unidentified		Yeah, it's Mike.
unidentified		I heard you talk a couple nights ago about the Pope performing exorcisms.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yes, that story, that interview.
unidentified		And then last night, the gentleman from, what was it, New Zealand?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Australia, actually.
unidentified		Australia, okay.
unidentified		He talked about being possessed.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
unidentified		Okay.
		I'm a born-again Christian, and you get rid of those demons in the name of Jesus Christ.
		And I've been performing anything.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Some do.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The problem with this is, how does a Buddhist get rid of a demon?
unidentified		Well, all I know, I can just tell you from what I've lived.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		So I think that a Buddhist, what I'm getting at here is that I understand that you do it in the name of Jesus Christ, but a Buddhist might do it in the name of Buddha and also be successful in ridding the demon.
		So I'm not exactly sure what that says.
unidentified		I understand.
unidentified		I'm not calling in to judge anybody.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I understand.
unidentified		What I primarily called in for Art was I have part of an exorcism on tape.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You do it?
unidentified		Yeah, it's about two minutes.
		It's done with not professional equipment, but you can hear the demon, and the woman gets free in the name of Jesus.
		And I can play it for you over the telephone if you'd like to hear it.
		Play it.
		It runs two minutes and 17 seconds.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		This is not a commercial tape, is it?
unidentified		No, no, no, no.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's something you're doing.
unidentified		It's exorcism that I did.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You did.
unidentified		Yes, that I did all that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, all right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Is it understandable?
unidentified		Yes, it is.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Play it.
unidentified		You're the strongest.
		You're the strongest?
		Is that all up, man?
		You're the gatekeeper.
		Father, in the name of Jesus Christ, I lift you.
		I command you to come to attention.
		I lift this answer that this devil Bob gave me.
		I lift it up to you if he lied to me.
		I pray the father of heaven on him burning his right eye.
		I want to hear it, God.
		God?
		Tell me the truth, man.
		Okay.
		You say what I tell you to say.
		You land up to the Holy Ghost.
		Do you understand me?
		Say hi, Bob.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Say hi, Bob.
unidentified		I'm Bob.
		The strongest demon in her.
		The strongest demon in her.
		Attach all others.
		Attach all others.
		To me.
		To me.
		We pull all our parts.
		I command a woman's hand to go down.
		Call the demon Baba.
		Ma'am.
		Come on, Baba.
		Baba, I got the beat of heat on a mushroom.
		I pray the holy water fire around you.
		I just let you come here helping your father.
		Ma'am, come to take it.
		Say what I tell you to say.
		You understand me?
		Yes.
		Say hi, Bob.
		Hi, Bob.
		Don't be as devil.
		The strongest devil.
		In her.
		In her.
		All others.
		But all others.
		Under my control.
		Under my control.
		To me.
		To me.
		We put.
		We put.
		All aparts.
		All the parts.
		Together.
		Together.
		Out of all.
		Out of all.
		Send this parts.
		We now leave her.
		We do leave her.
		10.
		10.
		Cut your mark, cut your caramans.
		Listen, let it go.
		Go to the pit.
		The Son of God was manifest to destroy the works of the devil.
		Did you get it?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I got it.
		And we all got it.
		Holy mackerel, how long ago did that happen?
unidentified		Oh, that was probably a couple years ago.
		God led me doing this, started me doing this 19 years ago, Art.
		Almost 20 years, to tell you the truth.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's dangerous work.
unidentified		Well, put it this way, Art.
		The woman was glad that I was there and God was there to get her free.
		That's what she said.
		It's not about the devil.
		It's about God.
		Okay?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I got you, sir.
unidentified		But anyway, I just thought you might be interested in it.
		I'm sorry the tape wasn't a better quality.
		No, it's home spun, you know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's all right.
		I got it.
		We all got it.
		Believe me.
		Thank you.
		Take care.
unidentified		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		I'm a firm believer in, you know, good and evil, the real forces of good and evil.
		I don't know if you call them God and the devil and Lucifer or Buddha or what you call them.
		These are all names.
		They were mostly all early prophets from these deities, entities, or a single creator.
		Who knows?
		Just imparted in different ways.
		When you study the various religions, they all basically say pretty much the same thing.
		Now, a lot of people, of course, mispractice all of them.
		And you end up with plenty of people killing plenty of people in all of their names.
		but that doesn't make them any less real uh...
		or that singular entity any less real so when you hear something like that it's Hello.
unidentified		Hi, Eric.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How are you?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm okay.
unidentified		Good.
		Say, Eric, I had a question about that fellow that called a couple of nights ago.
		Somebody, I believe it was in the military, said that he was framed for hurting someone or killing someone, but he said it was his clone.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, no, no, no.
		He didn't call.
		That was a news story I read.
		There is a man who is claiming as his defense that he didn't do it, his clone did.
unidentified		And how long ago did that event happen?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Not very long ago at all.
		That is a, in other words, it's not a concluded trial.
		He has presented that as his defense, and the trial hasn't even, as far as I know, occurred yet.
unidentified		No, I mean, how long ago did that murder?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No idea, sir.
unidentified		Oh, because I was just wondering, I mean, if it was recent, right?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Fairly recent.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, I believe it is.
unidentified		Well, the idea of a clone is it would be something that would be grown from an embryo.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		So how could a clone that would be maybe a couple of years old kill anybody?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, he's claiming the military did this.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You know, secret project, that kind of thing.
unidentified		Like, somehow they made it clone as an adult?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, either that or it was done some time ago by the military, that that some black box technology, you know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's what he's claiming.
unidentified		Yeah, because it sounded to me like the point was this guy, you know, this happened only a couple years back or something, and that he was claiming his clone supposedly did it.
unidentified		And I thought, wait a minute, cloning, regardless of all the other discussions, still relates to raising a baby.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, see, I was wondering what it was like, you know, at the police station where probably his attorney was meeting with him, you know, and they were talking about their defense.
		And the guy said, look, here's what we're going with.
		My clone did this.
		And the attorney probably looked at him and went, brother, Medley, you know, of course, brother, you're going away for a long time.
unidentified		Maybe that's the other side.
unidentified		Maybe they'll go with the insanity defense.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
		Anyway, you never know.
		It's a strange world.
unidentified		Well, I love your show.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I appreciate the call, sir.
unidentified		Okay, thanks a lot, Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Take care.
		Wildcard line, you are on the air.
		Good morning.
unidentified		Hi, good evening, Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi.
unidentified		Yeah, I wanted to ask a question about maybe a less serious subject.
		Okay.
		I remember hearing you talk about some really, really great pizza sauce that we found a long time ago.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yes, it's called Pizza Punch, yes.
unidentified		Yeah?
unidentified		Well, I was wondering when you might start marketing that stuff so the rest of us can try it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I don't know.
		you know we we just it's one of those things that's been the sir on the back for it's an incredible By God, she nailed it right on the head.
		It's the most incredible stuff on a pizza you've ever tasted.
		We made some just for fun and took it to a local pizza parlor, and they went berserk over it.
		Totally berserk.
		And then we sort of just backed away for a while.
		We've had so much other stuff going on in our life that we haven't pursued it.
		But that doesn't mean we won't someday.
		So the answer is, I don't know right now.
		I can't tell you.
		We've got so much else going on that it'd be hard to fit in.
		But maybe we'll get there.
unidentified		Yeah, because I love pizza.
		And ever since I heard you talking about that sauce, man, I've been dying to try it.
		Have a good night, Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, you too, sir.
		Take care.
		Yes.
		Well, we called it pizza punch because it's got a little punch to it.
		You know, it's kind of hot stuff.
		But boy, does it set a pizza off.
		It was really weird to find.
		What a weird place to find something like that.
		You know, you're in the outskirts of Paris.
		And here you get hungry.
		You know, you're walking along doing a lot of walking in Paris.
		And you come upon this little tiny Italian restaurant, and this all has this incredible stuff.
		It brings out this bottle, you know, plain cheese pizza, and brings out this bottle.
		And you put it on, and you go, oh, my God, oh, is this good?
		And then you sit there looking at the bottle, which you can see through, and you can see the various ingredients that are in it.
		And I never would have been able to pick them out, but my wife is great at that sort of thing.
		So I don't know.
		It's one of those things that you know about and you'll maybe do something about someday, maybe.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Good morning.
		Hi, how are you?
		Fine.
		Turn your radio off.
unidentified		Oh, yeah.
		Dawn, turn the radio off.
		I'm on.
		Hello?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
unidentified		All right.
unidentified		Actually, we're just first-time listeners.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Really?
unidentified		We were just wondering what type of show this is.
unidentified		I mean, it's very interesting.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I wonder about it myself.
		I don't know.
		We just sort of do a lot of things here that other people don't do and talk about things other people don't talk about, that sort of thing.
unidentified		Yeah, because last night we were listening, and it was interesting, and it went on and on.
		It wasn't really something that we were mainly interested in ourselves, but it was very interesting to listen to.
		Well, to a certain extent, you know.
		Well, me, not personally, but she was.
		That's Dawn.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yo, Dawn.
unidentified		So what it comes down to is I was wanting to know about vampires.
unidentified		I love hearing stuff about, you know, I heard that caller before.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I thought that was very interesting, you know, just to hear someone's opinion that you would never did the story last night about vampires in Colombia?
unidentified		No, see, that's what I'm saying.
unidentified		Oh, see, they were talking about vampires last night.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		In Colombia.
		Yeah, in Colombia.
		In Colombia, there are roving bands of vampires right now that are stopping people on the street at gunpoint or knife point or whatever and demanding blood from their throat.
unidentified		Wow.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, wow.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's also real.
unidentified		Unbelievable.
unidentified		Unbelievable, but believable.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's an unusual world, sir.
unidentified		It is.
		It is.
		Actually, can I put Dawn on for a second?
		Yes.
		She was interested in something we were just talking about.
		Okay.
		Hold on.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And here comes Dawn.
unidentified		Hello?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi, Dawn.
unidentified		Hi, how you doing?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
unidentified		what are we talking about controlling the weather with uh...
		That was last night.
		Oh.
		Are we on right now?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I sure hope so.
unidentified		Oh, really?
		Okay.
		This is crazy.
		Oh, my God.
		No one of you were on the spot late.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I was just telling your husband about roving bands of vampires down in Columbia.
unidentified		Oh, oh, oh.
		No, no, the whole show fascinates me.
		I've had so many strange occurrences since the World Trade Center and everything.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You have?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Personally?
unidentified		Oh, yeah, personally.
		I don't know.
		I think if I channel it more, I'll be clairvoyant sooner than later.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Like what?
unidentified		Like, I don't know.
unidentified		Well, it's kind of weird talking about it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, we have to do that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's a talk show here.
unidentified		Yeah, recently I had an experience.
		I had a dream a couple of years ago, and the person that came to me in the dream turned out to be someone that has passed away in the neighborhood close to my residence.
		And the other night we went to the spot where I visioned in the dream, and I took a couple of friends, and they thought I was wacky, and I wound up going to that particular spot.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		And I got a real eerie feeling, and the landscape, the trees looked different right in the spot, and it was just very strange.
		And it turns out one of my friends looked down and seen a piece of the crime scene tape, and that's where it happened.
		And it was very bizarre, and it was a very, like, you know, kind of desolate area right there.
		So just like little things like that just keep coming up.
		And yeah, and I just, I don't, you know, I wonder, like, like I've been listening to your show trying to see if other people are sharing the same experiences.
		And I don't know if it's just recently or.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, the answer to that is yes, they are.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And here's where you'll hear about it.
unidentified		Yeah.
unidentified		Thank you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You take care, honey.
unidentified		Thank you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Bye.
		As I was saying earlier in the program, there's a lot of news out there that never makes it to the mainstream press.
		Some of what you hear here explodes into the mainstream press.
		We've had that happen plenty of times.
		But then again, a lot of it never does.
		It just stops.
		doesn't mean it's not true, it just means that West of the Rockies, you're on the air without a whole lot of time.
		Hello.
unidentified		I know.
unidentified		This is Andrew in Phoenix.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, Andrew.
unidentified		Technical question.
		Yep.
		About your website, since I'm in a week I'm going to be leaving to day shift.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, no.
unidentified		Yeah, 1997.
unidentified		I was put on night shift.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Why don't you go and beg them not to do this?
unidentified		Well, I have a six-month-old baby I'd like to see when she's awake.
		I see.
		My question is: on your website, being able to are you able to download the show?
		Or are you going to get it?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, I don't think you can.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, I don't think they have that ability.
unidentified		I wish, because I'd be able to rip it and put it on an MP3 player and listen to it during the day.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Your choices are to record it on a recorder or to subscribe to listen to it live on the net.
		But you're not going to want to do that anyway, so that's not going to help you out.
		Your best shot is to record it and take it with you the next day.
		If they'll let you play something like this on the day shift, they'll probably run you back tonight so you play my show.
unidentified		I want to be able to put it on an MP3 player.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, once you get it.
		You can get it, you can put it on anything you want.
		Gotta go.
unidentified		You're listening to Ark Bell somewhere in Time.
		Tonight featuring a replay of Coast to Coast AM from February 21st, 2002.
		We'll be right back.
		Seasons don't feel the reaper.
		Nor do the wind, the sun, or rain.
		We can be like that.
		Come on, baby, don't feel the reaper.
		Baby, take my hand.
		Don't feel the reaper.
		We'll be able to fly.
		Don't feel the reaper.
		Baby, I'm the man.
		La la la la la.
		La la la la.
		Well, the sun refuses to shine.
		People tell me it ain't no use in trying.
		My little girl, you're so young and fresh.
		And one thing I know is true.
		Gonna die before your time.
		See my daddy in bed and dying See his hair turning gray He's been working and saving his life away I know He's been working Every day Saving his life away He's been working, baby He's been working
		Yeah We We gotta get out of the day.
		We gotta do.
		We gotta get out of the day.
		There's a better life for me and you My little girl, you're so young and pretty.
		And one thing I know is true.
		You'll be here before your time is due.
		So you will see my daddy in bed.
		See it's happy.
		Premier Radio Networks presents Art Bell somewhere in time.
		Tonight's program originally aired February 21st, 2002.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Good morning, everybody.
		As I said, I spent most of my, actually, adult life, early adult life, in the Far East, Okinawa, Philippines, Vietnam, elsewhere.
		And this was like a theme song then.
unidentified		We got to get out of this place.
unidentified		In this place that we are.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It was almost like the national anthem there, believe me.
		Eric Burden and the Animals.
		Eric Burden has been a musical...
		He's gone from the driving force of the grittiest British invasion band, pioneering the San Francisco psychedelic rock scene, to fronting war, the biggest funk band of the 70s, to cutting an LP with an early influence, jazz, blues,
		great Jimmy Witherspoon, to coming full circle, reuniting with his original band, The Animals, for a series of projects and a worldwide tour, to forming a group of, in quotes, animals, releasing a series of CDs, and a recent DVD concert.
		Burton's lengthy recording career began in Newcastle, England, where he first covered songs for his idols like Ray Charles, Chuck Berry, Josh White, Ronnie McGee, John Lee Hooker, Jimmy Reed.
		He and the Animals quickly gained notoriety as England's best R ⁇ B band, were selected by the pirate station Radio Caroline as the feature for the first broadcast of the U.S. That was a ship that was offshore until they got them.
		They were part of the first live R ⁇ B recording in the U.K. when they joined Sonny Boy Williamson for the now-famous 63 New Year's Eve concerts.
		This raw performance was followed by a more polished one when the Animals appeared with Jerry Lee Lewis and Gene Vincent on Renegade Granada TV in 64 for the Whole Lot of Shaken concert feature released on film as Don't Knock the Rock.
		The film showcased a rendition of Talking About You shortly thereafter.
		The Animals took the music world by storm when they recorded and released an electrified version of the traditional folk number, The House of the Rising Sun.
		That was another one.
		In short, Fare, they followed with such classics as Don't Let Me Be Misunderstood.
		We got to get out of this place.
		It's my life.
		I'm crying inside and looking out.
		The story of Bo Diddley, bring it on home to me, C.C. Ryder, it goes on and on.
		Here, folks, from Joshua Tree is Eric Burton, who's got a cold.
		Actually, the vestiges, I guess, of a cold, right, Eric?
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's in its final stages.
		But, um.
		Luckily enough, my singing voice doesn't suffer.
		It's my speaking voice that suffers, and um it gets pretty battered up from time to time.
		Sometimes, uh, you know, I'm suffering with this kind of a voice when it's not even a cold, but I've had a cold for a month.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And you can go out and sing like this if you have to?
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's no problem.
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		Warming.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Really?
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		Well, you push hard on it, you know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's what you do, is you push real hard, don't you?
		Yeah.
		How much performing are you still doing?
		You've got to be probably a couple years older than I. How old are you?
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		I had my 60th birthday last year.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Really?
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, so you're a few years older than I am.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm 56.
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		Scary, huh?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And you're still at it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		we're both still at it, really.
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		You're rocking, yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You grow up...
		You grew up in the shadow of World War II.
		What do you remember of the war in the aftermath of the war a lot?
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		Well, I remember, I mean, sometimes I think it's my imagination, but I remember POWs.
		They were dressed in British military fatigues, but they had a black diamond patch on their arms, and they would be in Woolworths and various other stores on the weekend shopping, like anybody else.
		Italians, Germans, Russians, and of course Americans too.
		I remember being taken to a USO club with my aunt who used to serve the Troops P at a club in one of the main thoroughfares in my hometown.
		So that was the first time I ever heard big band jazz, and first time I ever saw black men, you know, in uniform, black men, period.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hey, you know, that's kind of interesting.
		Earlier today, I was watching a videotape of you and Otis Redding, something called Ready, Steady, Go.
		Yeah.
		And you performed with black artists in Great Britain at a time when you really almost could not have done that here in America, didn't you?
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, my first band, the very first band that I had before the Animals, we had two Africans in the band playing trumpet and saxophone.
		One is deceased a few years back, one still alive and kicking.
		And we communicate with each other now and again.
		And they were from Ghana.
		And they were probably the first Africans to show up in my hometown.
		And they moved up to Newcastle from Manchester, which is a bigger city, much bigger than Newcastle.
		It's like the second biggest city in England.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That must have been a lot of influence on you then, musically, a lot of influence on you.
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		Well, yeah, I would follow them down to Manchester and get into a full-blown ghetto situation where, you know, where everybody was from Africa.
		They were all Africans or West Indians.
		And they had no influence on me.
		My first girlfriend was African, too.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, was she?
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		And her brother was quite a well-known wrestler.
		He was the world away champion of England.
		So for a short time, I was a roadie for a wrestler.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		A roadie for a wrestler?
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		Which was quite exciting.
		Kid of 18 years ago.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I bet it was.
unidentified		So, I mean, how did the music get in you?
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		Well, the music was always there.
		I mean, I just felt like a lot of other people, unbeknownst at the time, that the same thing was happening in Liverpool and in London and Manchester and various other places where kids were going to college and art school.
		And we were fed up with what we were being fed because we knew it wasn't the truth.
		And we searched for our own truth.
		And we found it in imported music and imported movies.
		So when I was at art school at Newcastle University, I spent most of my days in the movie theater watching American movies, French movies, Italian movies.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Really?
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, instead of working on, you know, instead of sketching, going to art galleries and sketching things.
		And then I would fill in my sketchbook later on from photographs, references, and things like that, and just get away with it.
		And we formed our own band, starting out, as most kids did, as a skiffled group, which meant it was a rhythm section that grew out of the traditional jazz bands that were popular at the time in England,
		like Chris Barber, who kind of really was the father of the English, eventually the English rock and roll scene, because his traditional jazz band was the first, he was the first band leader to allow the rhythm section to,
		during a musical break, to have break out the guitars, keep the banjo on stage, lose the drama, lose the horn section, and then a guy who played banjo for Chris Barber's band, Lonnie Donegan, who would step up front and do things like Rock Island Lion.
		And he named himself after Lonnie Johnson.
		So that was the first.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Did you say Lonnie Donegan?
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		Lonnie Donegan.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Wasn't that the Lonnie Donegan of Chewing Gum?
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Was it really?
		Does your chewing gum lose its flavor?
		Post overnight.
		Yeah, that's right.
		Listen, I forgot to do a break, so let me do a break.
		We'll come right back to you.
		Lonnie Donegan.
		Oh, boy, do I remember that name.
		Eric Burton's here.
		be right back.
unidentified		Gunshot Gunshot you you
unidentified		Now we take you back to the night of February 21st, 2002, on Art Bell, Somewhere in Time.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I should have done that break right at the beginning.
		I was so anxious to get started here that I just blew right by it as I frequently do.
		Back to Eric Burton.
		Hey, Eric, were a lot of the bands that finally became the British invasion here, were they sort of all roughly forming up at about the same time?
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
		I mean, it was a total surprise and shock to me to go down to London to a club called Alexis Corner Club, which was named after a guy called Alexis Corner, who started the first R ⁇ D bands in England and stand there in the crowd and look around and see Mick and Keith and Brian Jones and Ronnie Jones and Geno Washington.
		The latter guys were two Americans who'd been in the U.S. Air Force in England and decided to stay because the scene was so groovy.
		Then, of course, the Beatles really hit the world.
		They came out of Hamburg with already about 200 songs written already.
		And went into the studio and had produced refine them.
		And that's how they came up with so many hit songs.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, what I'm curious about is why something like that happens.
		I mean, there it is, Roxines trucking along in this country, and nobody knows it, but building in Europe is this incredible, incredible invasion, and it's happening all over the place.
		Not just you, not just the Beatles, but so many.
		All happening at the same time, all ready to break over our heads over here like a giant wave.
		And it just, it seems so unlikely, or maybe it isn't, you know, that it would all be happening roughly at the same time.
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, well, it's all down to timing.
		I mean, everything's timing.
		You can have everything on your side in any facet of life.
		And if you haven't got timing, you're dead in the water.
		And it was just coming out of the warriors, coming out of the black and whiteness of the war years, and trying to inject some life into this stuffy British, you know, claustrophobic lifestyle.
		Suddenly kids had money for the first time.
		We had our own money and we cracked our own dress styles.
		Before, long before the Beatles came on the scene with the Beatle haircuts and everything, there was the Edwardian teddy boys who wore Edwardian suits with purple drapes and the jacket had to be thumb length.
		The stovepipe pants and huge thick crepe sole shoes.
		And the girls were called black angels and they wore pencil thin skirts, ballet shoes.
		And their weaponry was metal combs stuck in their beehive hairdo with sharpened edges.
unidentified		So you had to watch out for those bad girls.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, as a matter of fact, I saw a lot of those girls in this videotape earlier today, and it really took me back.
		Boy, those hairdos in the 60s, but the girls, you know what?
		Are you looking back at them now, even on videotape?
		They still look good, Harry.
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah, sharp.
		Everybody looks sharp.
		That was the thing, was to be sharp, you know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		And then the music just cut through because people, every, I remember coming to New York when I first did the streets of New York, and I met this guy on the street.
		He said, I remember I stopped and looked at him because he had one shoe on.
		He had a shoe missing.
		And he said, you want to have English bands?
		And I said, yeah.
		And he said, man, people love a beat.
		In America, people love anything with a beat.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		And of course, everybody in the world loves everything with a beat.
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		And the one thing that I remember about being afraid to tell my parents what I was doing at night instead of night schools, I was going to a jazz club.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, you mean they didn't know?
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		No.
		So I took my father along with me one night.
		He thought it was wonderful.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		He did.
unidentified		Yeah.
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		They all thought it was wonderful.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And you told him you hadn't exactly been doing what he thought you'd been doing, right?
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		No, but we made a promise, you know, don't tell your mother.
		And as long as you get your work done on the side, then you can come here whenever you want.
		As long as you don't fail to deliver in your studies.
		So I had my parents trained at an early age.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I would have been terrified, and I don't think it would have worked out that well for me at all.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		My parents were both Marines, Eric.
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		Uh-oh.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, uh-oh, is right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And they were, boy, you talk about strict.
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		Well, see, my family, I was lucky, my family was split right down the middle.
		First of all, my mother was from Scotland.
		My father was English.
		My father was actually in World War II a conscientious objector.
		And my mother's side of the family were all military.
		And there was an adopted uncle in the family who was Catholic.
		And the family was English Presbyterian, basically.
		So there was this mishmash of living on the border, on the borderline of England and Scotland.
		And I must admit that the Scottish side of me was more important and meant more to me than the English side of me.
		There seemed to be more to Scotland, more pride in Scotland, more well, more violence as well in Scotland, but also a regal feel to Edinburgh when I used to go there.
		And every night I would go to bed and listen to the military bagpipes on the hill piping the end of the day at nine o'clock every night.
		And that just soaked right into, you know, right through the poles of my skin and stayed with me right up till today.
		I never forgot it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What is it?
		Do you have any idea what it is about music that is so important to every I think every human being so important?
		I mean it's just it's it's like it's magic.
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		Well, I really do believe in that there is magic in music.
		I mean it it does have healing powers.
		I think that the people of the East, particularly India, in India, they really know more about the healing power of music than we do.
		But what made the music of my generation so important was it had gone electric.
		And when you make electric music, it goes through the skin, it goes to the bone.
		I call it bone music.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's right, it's bone music.
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		And you can't dismiss it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, it's magic.
		And it's really, although I'm not on your side, so I don't know what it's like performing it, but my guess is the magic is there the same way for the person who performs it as those who listen.
		It's the same magic, isn't it?
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		Well, maybe even more so.
		I mean, I always say that the space between the stage and the performer, if you take a photograph of it, a Polaroid photograph of it, and take the Polaroid slide out of the camera and look at what develops, you'll see the audience and you'll see the stage and the performers, and between them nothing but space and light.
		But actually, I think that space is filled with spirituality.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All kinds of energy.
		Oh, tons of energy.
		Tons of energy.
		It is.
		It's magic.
		And so then being up there, being on stage, you think it might even be a little more magically.
		I mean, you're projecting, right?
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah.
		There are certain gigs at certain places at certain times, of course, that are just overwhelming.
		When I think of the best gigs that I've ever done, I always think of Paris, Athens.
		There's a club in Athens which...
		Yeah.
		You just look out there and you see these faces lit up, you know, eyes wide open.
		Everybody's just lit up by what you're doing.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's it.
		Eric, hold on.
		We're at the bottom now.
		We'll be right back.
		I've got Eric Burden here.
		I'm Art Bell.
		This is Coast to Coast AM.
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		Tonight, an encore presentation of Coast to Coast AM from February 21st, 2002.
		You better take care if I find you than creeping down my backstay.
		Something down, you better take care if I find you than creeping down my backstay.
		She's been looking like a queen in a sailor's dream.
		She don't always say what she really means.
		Sometimes I think it's a shame when I get feeling better.
		My father was a savior.
		She sold my new jeans.
		My father was a gambling man.
		Down in you always.
		Now the only thing you can ever do is a suitcase of a show.
		And the only time he's satisfied is when he's on a drum.
		Oh, mother, tell your children.
		Not to do what I have done.
		Spend your life.
		You're listening to Art Bell Somewhere in Time on Premier Radio Networks tonight and on your presentation of Coast to Coast AM from February 21st, 2002.
		Eric Burden is here tonight, now.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And in a moment, we'll get right back to him.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		much to ask.
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unidentified		Oh Once again, here is Eric Burton.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Eric, you formed the Animals.
		How'd that happen?
		How did it all come together?
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		It was a conglomeration of several bands that were playing in my hometown, Newcastle.
		And Alan Price, who was recruited as piano player.
		Charles Chandler, the oldest member of the band, was the bass player.
		Hilton Valentine, the guitar player, John Steele, drummer.
		John Steele and I went to art school together and formulated jazz outfits at college.
		And then we started listening to jukeboxes and listening to blues, rhythm and blues, and of course Elvis Presley, people like that.
		And realized that that was what we really were wanting to, you know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Presley was a big influence?
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
		I think Elvis really saved black music.
		People will admit that I'm not, that's what I believe.
		Black music wouldn't have survived if it hadn't been for Elvis Presley.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		He was a big influence on Beatles, too, of course.
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I think on everybody.
		everybody yeah i mean that uh...
		you know how this is But I think the one thing that Presley did for all of us was he made it safe for us to say it's all right to feel good.
		It's all right to feel sexual.
		It's all right to feel groovy.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		During a lot of the years that you were doing that, I was top 40 disc jockey.
		I was in the Air Force.
		I was overseas.
		I was a disc jockey.
		I played that music when you were making it.
		And I remember the women really well.
		Eric, and I was just a disc jockey.
		And I remember the women.
		And I can't even imagine what it must have been like for you.
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		Well, basically, that's why guys got in bands and groups.
unidentified		It's the quickest way to the girls.
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		Just you'd go to a rehearsal room and plug up the amplifiers and crack up a couple of tunes and our girls would wander in off the street just with our mouths dropped in.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		Wow, what's going on here?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And other things.
		And so, you know, now that you're older and you look back on all of that, all of those years, how do you feel about it now?
		Any regrets or just really good memories or both?
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		Great memories.
		I have a few regrets.
		You know, I probably wouldn't cough up on the radio with them.
		Basically, I'd say I don't have any regrets.
		I think I've had a great life.
		I am still having a great life.
		In fact, probably having a better time now than I've ever had because I'm more aware of what I'm doing now.
		And I like myself better now.
		For years, I had trouble with myself.
		Because I grew up thinking it was hip to be of type or hip to be tough or the rebel, the I always thought he was a great rebel.
		I always thought he was a very feeling person.
		But as soon as we saw Marlon Brando, with the dark passes on, the La La Jack, I put Johnny's scroll on it.
		And the wild one, this is where the story started for me on a two-lane blacktop outside of, you know, we were there.
		I mean, you wanted to go, well, I wanted to go to America and be as bad as I could possibly be, you know.
unidentified		Of course, you know, you've got to learn from those lessons.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I mean, now you've made it to your 60s, but boy, an awful lot of you all haven't made it that far at all.
		So many.
		And I know you knew one of them very well, Jimi Hendrix.
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's so sad, you know, to see so much talent in the prime of life with seemingly everything going for him.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Was he a good friend of yours?
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		I believe so, yeah.
		I mean, I don't know how close anybody could really get to Jimmy.
		I mean, he was a bit of an aloner as well as, you know, the girls would come first.
		You know, LSD and girls came first, and performance came first.
		Nothing else mattered.
		I never saw the guy without his guitar for the first few years that I knew him.
		In fact, the first time I saw him without his guitar in public, well, I mean, I say in public, I mean at a party in London, and he was without his guitar.
		That's when I knew he was in trouble and things were changing for him.
		And he was beginning to feel trapped because he was being used and utilized and he was a stranger in a strange land.
		But there was one or two friends who felt his predicament and wanted to help him over it and help him through it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, well, that's kind of the same thing that happened to Presley.
unidentified		He was isolated because he was used.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It got to the point where he was angry at everything, didn't trust anybody, and retreated to a world of drugs.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Anyway, so you knew at that point that Hendricks was probably lost.
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		Well, we had a mutual friend in Roland Kirk, Rassan Roland Kirk, who was probably one of the greatest living musicians ever.
		And he was blind.
		And because he was blind, I think he could see a lot more than most of us.
		And he told me to tell Jimmy, you know, that he was doing too much.
		He was seeing too much.
		You got to get across to him that you can't see that much.
		And I said, yeah, of course, I'll do what I can, knowing that there was no way that I could reach Jimmy on that level.
		And I tried to warn him about the business end of things because I was managed by the same people.
		So I knew the same thing was going to happen to Jimmy as it happened to me.
		And I tried to take him aside.
		And also it was basically no running.
		I tried to tell both of them what was going to happen, what was going to transpire.
		But by that time, he was king of the world, you know, and stoned most of the time.
		And just refused to acknowledge anybody, anything by that time.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Out of control.
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		I wouldn't say out of control.
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		He was in control.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Or doing what he wanted to do.
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, in control of his guitar.
		I mean, how could you say Hendricks was out of control?
		Here was a guy who could play two guitars at once and thump the bass with his feet and sing as well.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, I didn't mean that way at all.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, I didn't mean out of control like that.
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but that takes a lot of intense self-control to be able to pull that off.
		But he'd created this role for himself.
		And it was impossible to step back from the burning of the guitars and the reputation of two, three girls a night, whatever.
		But I really believe that there was an inner person that I knew because he would come over to my house and over to my apartment, knock on the door and just say, I've had enough of that stuff, man.
		Let's just kick back and listen to some music.
		Because I had a great stereo system.
		And we'd listen to everything from classical music to his latest demo tapes that he'd bring over to my house.
		So we formed a pretty close relationship on that level.
		And it was pretty bizarre how I got pulled into his demise, into his death, because I hadn't seen him for about a year.
		I'd given up on trying to reach him.
		And I came into London in his roadmatch.
		I said, Jimmy wants to see you.
		And my reaction was, well, if he wants to see me, he'll come and find me.
		Because I knew that would draw him out of his self-imposed exile.
		He was hiding out in a hotel and with a current girlfriend.
		And I was playing at Ronnie Scott's Club in London.
		And he did.
		It worked.
		He came across the door.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Did you know the girl?
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		Sorry?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Did you know the girl?
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		No, I'd never seen her before.
		And at that time, I understood that they were an item, so to speak.
		But I didn't know that.
		He just met her on a recent German tour.
		And the first night he came and jammed with me, he was in a terrible state.
		I sort of could smell heroin.
		I thought it was smack he was into, and I was totally disgusted.
		And I told him to go away and come back the next night.
		He came back the next night, and he was totally straight.
		And he jammed with my band with war.
		And I got the feeling from him on stage that night that he realized that that's where he should have been.
		This is the place he should be with a band of black brothers jamming and having a good time.
		And the last time I saw him, he had a smile on his face.
		But he was dead two days later.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But dead two days later.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		See, that doesn't sound like somebody who was going to go commit suicide.
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		No, it doesn't.
		But in my first book, I did theorize that it was a suicide because I thought that he was so depressed.
		And I found a letter by his bedside, which to me read exactly like a suicide note.
		So I assumed that it was a possible suicide or he'd just gone too far and couldn't pull out of the dive.
		But after doing much research and looking at every interview that was ever done with his girlfriend at the time, I think now that I was wrong and I've come up with a different theory.
		Well, I should say one should read my new book to find that out because, you know, I'd be I don't want to give it away.
		I want people to read it in black and white from off the page.
		A lot of research went into this.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, reading between lines is not real hard.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		In other words, you let's put it this way, you probably think something other than you originally did before the research, huh?
unidentified		Yeah.
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		I mean, I read the coroner's report, so interviews with the doctor.
		He wasn't rescue able.
		They wheeled him right into the waiting area to the next step with the morgue.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The girl you mentioned, they were an item.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		She later, I've heard, committed suicide herself, is that correct?
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		It's pretty dark.
		It's pretty dark stuff.
		And it really killed me.
		It killed my career.
		I mean, but it didn't kill me physically.
		I'm still here.
		Thank God.
		But it put the blade in my career in England.
		I was told after I'd done an interview for the BBC, I was told by a record company executive that I would never work in England again.
		And I haven't since 1971.
		I'm going back to do a tour there this summer, and that will be my first appearance in all that time.
unidentified		Why would they blame you?
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		I don't think they blamed me.
		I think that it was like you guys did a whole bunch of drugs together and you had a great time, and one of you fell off your bike and crashed and broke your neck, and the one who survived is going to cop all the guff that goes with it.
		So I was just like humped in as like I was his junco partner, and that's the way it could be.
		You know, it made great stuff for the press.
		Were you?
		Where was I?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Were you his junkie partner?
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		No, no.
		I mean, I never ever used heroin.
		I would never ever use heroin.
		And I think that that is to jump from Jimmy and that period of time to the present day.
		I think that's one of the biggest problems we face in the world today is that every government and every political entity, they all look at the word drugs and they hump it all together in one piece and say, drugs are bad, period.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I know.
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's not quite as clear as that.
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		It's not quite as clear-cut as that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, not at all.
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		Some drugs will save your life, and some drugs will kill you.
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And some drugs probably will help you through life, and some drugs will hurt you badly.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You know, it's a whole spectrum.
unidentified		You're right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, they lump it all together, and they even throw marijuana in there, too.
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
		I really believe that if they'd have legalized marijuana in the United States in the 70s, in the early 70s, I think that it would have affected other countries to follow suit.
		And we would have had a soft core alternative for the younger generation to turn to other than alcohol.
		Because each generation always wants an alternative away from what the previous generation had.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, alcohol alone.
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		It's a soft alternative to alcohol, and it's a livable.
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		No.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, indeed not.
		And when you lump it in with everything right up to and including heroin, then the little kid who's going to try it for the first time after hearing every commercial in the world tell him, you know, he'll go mad or whatever, he's been lied to once now, he figures.
		So it's really easy to take that next step.
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		We all know that you tell kids not to do something, and it's the first thing they're going to do.
		That's just the way kids are.
		So we have to educate them and guide them, not prohibit them and punish them.
		I think we've got it all around the wrong way, and that's why we're in trouble.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How much were drugs, any kind of drugs, how much did they influence you and your music?
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		A hell of a lot.
		I mean, LSD was a revelation to me.
		I mean, I took LSD not because it was a narcotic and it restricted you from doing things.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's not a narcotic.
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		It did the opposite.
		It opened up my mind to the possibilities of everything.
		In fact, I moved out here to the desert to Joshua Tree, where I now live, originally because it was a UFO center.
		It was the place where you came to gaze at the stars at night and take a psychedelic to enhance that, which is unfortunate now because it cancels out any visions that I've had of lights moving across the sky at night because I was stunned at the time.
		But it doesn't make any difference.
		I saw them.
		I know what I saw.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You know what you saw.
		Believe me, we're going to talk about that.
		By the way, I don't live all that far from you.
		I'm in a little place called Perump, Nevada, which is just kind of like where you are, actually.
		It's very serious desert.
		High desert, yeah.
		And it's also known, you know, I'm just right across the mountain range here from that place called Area 51.
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah.
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		Dantantum.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Dantum is right.
		And people see things here all the time, and I've seen them too.
		And so you actually, you came to the desert for that reason?
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, when I think back, yeah, I think so.
		I was living in Los Angeles, and I'd come out the desert for weekends.
		Made friends with Steve McQueen.
		I did a lot of off-the-road and dune-buggy dirt with Steve.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, he did a lot of that, didn't he?
		Yeah.
		Hold on, we're at the top of the hour, so just rest for a bit.
unidentified		As they stand in line.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		This would be from about that period.
unidentified		The smell of gun grease and their pain at station.
unidentified		He's there to help them all that he can.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Remember yet?
unidentified		To make them feel wanted.
unidentified		He's a good holy man.
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		Good morning.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		We'll be right back.
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art bell ▲ ● ▼		It is that Eric Burden is my guest and San Francisco.
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art bell ▲ ● ▼		Before I leave the subject of Jimi Hendrix and everything, there's one more, a couple aspects I want to cover.
		One is during those years, we've got into the Vietnam War and things were pretty crazy here in America.
		And a lot of people think that Hendricks, Jimmy was on a list, probably regarded as a national security threat, along with a lot of other people at the time.
		And I wonder if you're aware of that or whether you've considered that or know it for a fact.
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		Well, yeah, I think that he could have been considered a danger in certain areas.
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		He was, I don't know if you know it, but he was kidnapped.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Kidnapped?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, I did not know that.
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, kidnapped at gunpoint.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		By.
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		Well, read my book.
		Yeah, but that's a fact.
		He was kidnapped.
		And when I was told about it, I immediately knew the M.O. and who was invisible.
		But his management towards the end got involved in some very dodgy characters.
		He was a sort of wannabe mafia type.
		And although I don't think the mafia were directly involved, directly involved.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That was going to be my next question.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		About the mafia, about organized crime.
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		Well, organized crime basically stayed away from music.
		I mean, who would want to manage a rock star?
		I mean, it ain't easy.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, but there was a lot of money flying around.
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but jukeboxes and clubs and stuff like that and record distribution is another total different aspect way of reaping money.
		So of course there was involvement on that level, always has been.
		Wherever there's money, it's been made in huge amounts.
		But, you know, I could be wrong.
		I don't know because I haven't seen Hendrix's FBI file or whatever.
		But, you know, he was projected towards the end as a sort of peace warrior, peace leader.
		And just around the time he departed, there was a standoff at Wounded Knee with the Makota Indians.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I remember it.
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		And we had tanks up against painted ponies.
		And it was just incredible imagery.
		And I think that if Hendricks had lived, he certainly could have gotten sucked into that vacuum because he had Indian blood to start with and where he got his knowledge from in his early years.
		And he certainly knew a lot about Indian philosophy, Indian practices, the belief in four winds, the belief in animal contact and receiving messages from animals and chasing storm clouds and all this kind of stuff.
		This was a guy who had just been in the U.S. military.
unidentified		It's like, wow, where did he get all this from?
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		And I just found out recently that he often took advice from a great Indian shaman, Rolling Thunder.
		And I'm now friends with Rolling Thunder's grandson.
		His name is Elk Thunder.
		And Elk Thunder has told me that Emricks often would meet and converse with Rolling Thunder for strength and well-being and health and direction and all that goes with it.
		So if you look at that AIM situation, that American Indian movement that happened in the 1971 through the 73, 74, where there was a lot of the hippies, white hippies, were being influenced by the Indian movement.
		And although the Indians weren't that too happy about that, they didn't say no.
		They felt that it was power to their cause to see these young white kids copying their dress styles and getting to sweat lodges and all of that kind of stuff.
		And there was these charismatic leaders that developed, Russell Means, Dennis Banks, Leonard Peltier, who went to jail and I think is still in jail.
		And all they needed was a definite power and a definite force to rally people to their cause.
		And Hendricks would have definitely would have been the guy for that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, again, apparently in 1979, some college students, University of Santa Barbara, filed for release of some of the FBI files on Hendricks.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, they got back.
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		Blank, blank, blank.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Blank, blank, blank, blank.
		Blank, blacked out stuff.
		So they were really, really interested in Mr. Hendricks.
		Really interested.
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, and I mean, it's difficult.
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		You know, I haven't forgotten that history will show that standoff at Wounded Knee was the largest armed conflict on U.S. soil since the Civil War.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How about you?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Have you had any run-ins with officialdom?
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		Not really, other than when I headed for Wounded Knee in 72, I think it was, I wanted to go to Pine Ridge to witness what was going on there because I thought it was such an American event.
		I thought it was history in the making.
		And I got as far as, I think it was the Idaho State Line, and I was told in no uncertain terms by these gentlemen standing by this unmarked car.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So you weren't going to go any further?
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		That I should not go any further, and they were pretty pressing about it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So they knew you were coming?
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		I don't know if they knew I was coming, but I just think they were turning everybody around.
		So I literally turned around and went to Mexico.
		And I stayed in Mexico, drove around Mexico, went down to Belize and Honduras.
		And when I came back, I really thought that America wasn't going to be there when I got back.
		Because the imagery that in my head as I left was just total, you know, close to absolute civil unrest.
		But, you know, as luck would have it, and once again, timing came into play, Richard Nixon's tapes came to light, and that put everything on the back burner.
		And the standoff at Wounded Knee and all that were involved were forgotten completely.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Probably most of the FBI files and the government surveillance, rather than Wounded Knee, most of it was probably because of the anti-war movement, wouldn't you think?
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, of course.
		That's always a trigger mechanism to go deeper into someone's life.
		But I think that probably Jimmy was being watched.
		I know for sure John Lennon was.
		I mean, I was amazed what John did when he got involved with Yoko.
		I mean, I'll never forget.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Did you know you knew John?
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, quite well.
		I'll never forget billboards on Sunset Boulevard in big, huge black and white letters that said, war is over now if you want it.
		It says John and Yoko, you know.
		And this was when the Vietnam War was still raging away.
		I mean, I think it was 72 or whatever.
		And he wasn't even a citizen.
		So he was definitely throwing rocks in a glass house.
		And he lived next to me in Bel Air for a few months.
		And I always wanted to try and talk to him just because he was a homeboy, just because he was a homie.
		We were the same age, both from Northern England.
		But he wouldn't show up.
		And he'd send books to me.
		He'd send books over with his chauffeur and drop various books off that he thought I should read.
		And I remember one was inscribed, Dear Eric, becoming an American won't ease the pain.
unidentified		Signed, John and Yoko.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What do you know of what happened with John and Yoko and the whole breakup and all mess?
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		Well, John needed a woman.
		He needed a strong woman in his life.
		That was the one thing that was missing in his world.
		And Yoko, whatever anybody thinks about her, she fit the bill.
		And she taught him that there was life beyond the Beatles.
		And in effect, broke up the Beatles in order to do that.
		But their love affair came first, and at that point in time, the Beatles came second.
		So you have to put that in perspective.
		She was hated for doing that.
		But she and John had become this artist and muse, man and wife, lovers, whatever, politically oriented people with their betting demonstrations and so forth.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You know, kind of odd in a way for an Oriental woman to be that strong.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That political, that involved, that strong.
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		She's a New Yorker.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So she kind of.
		Well, still, I know, but there's roots.
		Yeah.
		Usually there's roots.
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		But she did change his life, and for a while, he was very happy.
		You could see that he was extremely happy.
		For the first time in his life, he lost weight because he always hated being pointed at as the people who would get fat first, the pudgy guy.
		And if you look back at those videos that they made in New York, he was slimmed down and dressed differently, and the hair suddenly was cut to a GI military-style cut, and he was happy.
		He was in New York.
		He didn't get buttered by people, but he got stalked.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Do you remember how many rumors there were of the Beatles getting back together?
		And some of them real strong.
		And sure, it was real close a couple times, I think.
		Do you know why it didn't happen?
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		Well, basically, because of the threat from Charlie Manson, I think.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Charlie Manson?
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		Well, Charles Manson took the white album and made that his Bible.
		Or was it Hellaskelda, right?
		Right.
		And made that his Bible and used LSD to program his crew to do whatever he wanted to do.
		I would probably think that Charlie didn't do it.
		I said that he got his crew to do.
		I said, but he didn't.
		And he was a failed musician, a failed artist.
		He'd be aware of failed artists.
		I mean, Hitler was a failed artist.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's right.
		When you see Charlie today, he still looks like, I don't know.
		I've seen interviews with Charlie, and he looks like the most evil, it's like the most evil thing I've ever seen in my whole life.
		You look and listen to him, and it'll send chills down your back just listening to him.
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		Well, one can't forget the threat that came from that camp against everybody, particularly against the Beatles, because they must have got the feeling that if they ever performed again live, that somebody might be out there with a gun.
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		Somebody was out there with a gun.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Somebody was there, yeah, that's right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You think that's what stopped them from doing it again?
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		Well, that and that they'd had enough.
		They were sensible enough to say, we've done it all.
		We've taken it as far as you can.
		George wanted to get into his Eastern religious philosophy.
		He was gone.
		John was gone in New York.
		By that time, Yogo had taught him how to become a working artist and put his artwork into perspective and began to sell it on the market.
		In fact, she's still doing that now.
		And Paul was in love and had a wonderful life with his missus up on their farm in Scotland.
		He sure did.
		And he had the courage, Paul had the courage enough to take his woman into his band with him so that she could be everywhere with him.
		And he was, you know, I can remember how much he was slighted by musicians and laughed at by musicians at the time for doing that.
		But I thought that was a courageous thing to do.
		But they all, you've got to remember that the Beatles lost the best years of their lives to being the band, the Beatles.
		And they desperately, after it was over, after the break came basically between John and Paul, they desperately wanted to have their own lives.
		I mean, that's understandable.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it is.
		It is.
		But, you know, somehow also understandable would be, you know, after enough years have gone by, just to sort of get together again and see if the magic's still there.
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		Well, I tend to argue with that because I went through band reunions and I hated it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You hated it?
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		I hated every minute of it.
		I mean, back to my opening statement about timing being important.
		You can't turn back the clock like that.
		It's the magic of the moment.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Passes.
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		And it's the same with the drug culture.
		I wouldn't argue for LSD today.
		It's not what it was.
		I'm not who I was.
		Your body's not what it was.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Of course not.
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		And the environment around you isn't what it was.
		So it was just something that happened at that peak, that pinnacle of time.
		And we were convinced that we could change the world.
		We were convinced that we could stop all wars.
		We were convinced that music had that power.
		And unfortunately, it was just a dream.
		And it was John Lennon that said in 1971, the dream is over.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		A lot of people in America then, in wartime, and I was over there, so I wasn't here.
		I wasn't part of this.
		I was over there doing that, you understand?
		But a lot of people thought John Lennon was a communist.
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		Was it communist?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, communist.
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		I don't think so.
		I don't think he even was aware of what basic Marxist teachings was or whatever.
		He was almost too much of a humanist.
		He was a reactionary, for sure.
		And when I first met him, he was a bit of a street thug.
		I remember him being very tough when he came out of Liverpool.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You had to be tough to be in that part of Liverpool.
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
		Absolutely.
		But, you know, that's partly what the drug culture did.
		It changed a lot of people.
		It turned a lot of people instantly into the desire for peace.
		And I think that the greatest thing that rock and roll music aspired to was the period during the mid-60s through to the mid-70s, where it became an international peace movement and was accepted as such throughout the world.
		And it's never gotten back to that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But it was the words of what he's saying.
		We're at the bottom of the hour.
		It was the words of what he's saying that made people think that.
		Maybe they just took it the wrong way.
		But, you know, if you listen carefully.
unidentified		You're listening to Arkbell somewhere in time on Premier Radio Networks.
		Tonight, an encore presentation of Coast to Coast AM from February 21st, 2002.
		If you try If you try Your hand will disguise.
		Imagine all the people living for today.
		Imagine there's no country hard to do I've been to kill all Baby, Do you understand me now?
		Sometimes I feel a little mad.
		But don't you know that no one alive can always be an angel.
		When things go wrong, I see me mad.
		I'm just a soul whose intentions are good.
		Oh Lord, please don't let me be misunderstood.
		If I seem itchy, I want you to know that I never mean to take it out on you.
		Life has problems and I get my share.
		And that's one thing I never mean to do.
		Cause I love you, oh, oh, oh.
		baby, don't drop your one thing Premier Radio Networks presents Art Bell somewhere in time.
		Tonight's program originally aired February 21st, 2002.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		My guest is Eric Burton.
		That's the title of his new book, by the way.
		We'll be right back.
unidentified		We'll be right back.
unidentified		Now we take you back to the night of February 21st, 2002, on Art Bell, Somewhere in Time.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Art Bell, Somewhere in Time If you listen to the words of John's song, and you approach communism as just an ideal, you know, a perfect ideal, which I suppose if it was implemented perfectly, it might have been, then that's what he was singing about.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But he was just an idealist, wasn't he?
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		I think John Lennon's communist experience, if he had one, was probably being a member of the Beatles, and he found out it didn't work.
		I think that John's stance, if he had one, and what shaped his character was the fact his mother was run down by a policeman in Liverpool when he was a kid.
		And from that point on, he hated any form of authoritarian.
		And I think that probably shaped him more than anything.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I guess I'm kind of curious.
		You make comments about UFOs and being in the desert and all the rest of it.
		Had you heard my program before?
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		No, I hadn't.
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		I hadn't heard about it, but I knew about it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So you never heard it.
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		Never ever had a chance to receive it.
		I'm always traveling.
		But I'm glad that you're there.
		I always keep thinking of the human mind as a parachute.
		It's only going to work if it's open.
		And whether one believes in UFOs or not, I always throw UFOs out in conversations just to find out how open people are.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, you said you knew what you saw.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What did you see?
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		Fast-moving lights in the sky.
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		Like a star, but making erratic.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Erratic movements.
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		And of course, out here, I've seen a lot of stuff that people have been freaked out by, but I've known that it was the military here locally with their jump jets, you know, the Harriet jump jets, and the wind's going in the opposite direction.
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		And it makes them look super ghostly because you don't hear the noise of the engines.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, you got interested in that kind of thing.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You also got interested in the Integratron somehow or another, didn't you?
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		Well, yeah, it's just down the road from me.
		And I discovered that place when Van Passel was still alive, I believe.
		And that I did get to meet him, but I know people who didn't meet him.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What did you hear about the Integratron then when you saw it, when you went to it, what was your experience?
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		Well, I just thought it was an incredible structure, you know, for anybody to build.
		And I found, did a bit of reading on who Van Tassel was.
		George von Tassel was Howard Hughes' chief death pilot.
		And I don't know whether it's true or not, but I think he was in the German Air Force in World War II.
		But I don't know whether that's true or not.
		But this whole area is filled with a lot of mysticism and stories.
		I mean, it's true that there was a high-ranking German officer who lived in the shadow of Big Rock, which is right next to the Integratron.
		And this Big Rock is the biggest boulder in the world.
		And it suddenly just split about two years ago, right down the middle.
		And makes me wonder because it's right next to 29 Parns Marine Base.
		The local explanation for it splitting is that it was hot engines from four-wheel drives pulling in there to camp in the middle of the night.
		But this boulder is bigger than Ayers Rock.
		And it split.
		So that's one of the local mysteries.
		But the Integriton stands is the most fascinating one because a couple of ladies have taken it over and refurbished it back to its supposedly original state.
		But of course, nobody can come up with von Tassel's theory of rejuvenation, which is what he said he learned from an alien abduction.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And when you were there, did it feel that way to you?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, things feel a certain way.
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		Well, I walked into the place after he was dead and gone, and it had been left to wreck and ruin.
		But it still, it's a magnificent structure.
		And I think it's a hexagonal.
		I'm not sure.
		It's a dome.
		It's a white dome.
		And there are pipes running around the walls high up, about what would be a story, about a house, a regular house story and a half.
		And there are brass copper pipes running around the inside of the building.
		And his theory was if you run a sort of osmosis kind of system through there, that it would have a rejuvenating effect on humans.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, we live in a very strange world where not all things are perfectly understood, that's for sure.
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but it's still there, and it's become quite a tourist attraction now.
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		But I would really like to know more or find out more about Von Tassel, but there isn't that much in print about him.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Why do you think that so many artists like yourself, like the Beatles, like so many more, went on quests, you know, really serious spiritual quests?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Did music lead you that way, or what part of being in that life led people in that direction, do you think?
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		Well, I'm guilty of using drugs for that.
		I mean, that's what I used LSD, mescaline, peyote for.
		Because I believe, in my mind, if there are aliens, I believe that it's a psychic phenomenon.
		It may be.
		And that it's all in the dark recesses of every human's brain.
		And all that mysurgic acid does, actually, is it opens up the penal gland between the large part of the brain and the smaller part of the brain.
		So it just reorganizes everything you see.
		Everything you look at is reorganized.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The problem with that is, though, unless that's what's projecting it, because a lot of people, you know, like people who don't do drugs, cops I've interviewed, law enforcement people who have, you know, really pilots who have had near collisions with UFOs, those kind of people, you know, maybe they're the recipients of, you know, what's being projected if it's all from us.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's all I can imagine because they certainly wouldn't be projecting it.
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		No, well, yeah.
		I mean, there are people that need the drug experience and there are people that don't need it.
		I mean, look at the work of Salvador Dali.
		He didn't take drugs, but his painting concepts are certainly psychedelic.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All natural, huh?
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You know, a piece of bumper music that I played a little while ago, Gordon Whitefoot's on that.
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		I love that piece.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I do too.
		I interviewed Gordon.
		And, you know, Gordon, he sang about his life.
		I mean, you could ask him about the various songs he sang.
		And, you know, that stuff came straight from his life.
		And a lot of it was really troubled.
		And a lot of it was really troubled with women.
		And I think that's where a lot of music comes from, doesn't it?
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		Yeah.
		I think that's where a lot of our problems in really understanding who we are comes from.
		We don't give the female side of our lives enough credit, enough credit for being, you know, probably stronger than males in a lot of ways.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Probably.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, probably, yes.
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		You know, I mean, in ancient cultures, it was always the grandmother who was the ultimate shamanistic figure that everybody went to for advice.
		We've lost sight of that.
		And even the women's movement, they've lost sight of that.
		I think that in trying to copy what men are, they're off on the wrong track.
		They're supposed to set an example for us.
		I mean, we play with guns.
		We play with explosives.
		We create wars.
		We make war on each other.
		Why should a woman want to copy that and become a part of that?
		They lead us on a different direction, I believe.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Why did you call your book?
		It's a good title?
		It's a great title, of course.
		Don't let me be misunderstood.
		But why that title?
		How did you decide on that?
		I didn't.
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		The book company did.
		They stuck it on there.
		Does it fit?
		Yeah, I think it fits.
		Yeah, I think it fits a lot.
unidentified		Yeah.
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		I think there's a lot of times in my life that I've been misunderstood and misread.
		But that's okay.
		You know, that's all right.
		I don't expect everybody to read me clearly, see exactly what I am and who I am.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How much danger, you know, obviously for John, for a lot of others, there was really danger.
		I mean, there was stalking.
		After being that famous, even years later, even in later life, even in other marriages, they were never safe.
		Never safe.
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		You know, what you're up against as an artist, you're up against incredible things.
		I mean, just you meet, I meet people on a day-to-day basis who say, oh, Eric Burton, yeah, wow, yeah, you used to be great.
		Oh, yeah, you know, I thought you were dead.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, people say that.
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		That's one of the ongoing favorite ones.
		Or I'll get into a conversation on the political front with somebody at a bar, and my politics will be directly the opposite of their.
		And I'll go to the men's room and come back, and the barman told them who I am, and they'll say, I'm sorry, man.
		I wouldn't have said that if I hadn't known it was you.
		And I just get really disgusted with people like that.
		I mean, come on.
		It's really amazing how flashed out people can get around fame.
		Fame is a bitch.
		It really is.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		People don't understand that.
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		It is really tough to deal with.
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		And I've made a life out of snaking my way through the ups and downs of life and being able to keep my own private life to myself and not be splashed all over the tabloids and yet move in the world of rock and roll.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's not easy.
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		No, it's not.
		But it can be done.
		It can be done.
		And being small in stature helps because you can...
		I don't need security.
		I can get out of anywhere.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Have there been many times in your career when you've been worried enough to admit the security?
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		Well, there's been times when I've gotten myself into situations where security was the problem.
		And nobody could help me.
		I was arrested in Germany for terrorist acts against the state under the Emergency Powers Act.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Really?
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What did they think you had done?
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		I was making a movie.
		And the director had gone to university with top German terrorists.
		And a judge wanted to be the guy to put it all to bed, put it all the rest.
		Because during the 70s and 80s, this particular terrorist gang, the Badamainoff gang, had held the West German state to ransom.
		They created mayhem, explosions, assassinations, setting places on fire and all that.
		And the director of the movie that I made had gone to school with the female partner of this Bonnie and Clyde kind of outfit.
		And so anybody who was a part of that was roped in.
		And it was guilt by association.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's got to be pretty scary stuff.
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		It scared the living daylights out of me.
		And I go into that experience in depth in my book because I want people to understand how bad it is when you're judged wrongly, when you're Henry Fonda in the wrong man.
		It's not a great thing to go through.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, a lot of people wish for fame, and I've told them frequently, you know, you really should be very careful what you wish for, because fame and all it's really cracked up to be.
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		No, it's not.
		No, it's not.
		You know, like I say, I've managed to walk a fine line between fame and keep a private life, but there are times when there's times when it works, too.
		Oh, excuse me, officer, I didn't realize I was.
		Oh, yeah, you are the sky pilot.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah, okay.
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		Sometimes it works.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Sometimes, but you know, that's a pretty small slice compared to the other side.
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's what people don't understand.
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		One of the worst overall things is that you're out there on the road, on stage, getting adulation from people who want your autograph so they can put it on eBay the next day and sell it for $200 and they're hounding you and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
		And you're getting hit on by girls, left, right, and center.
		You come home, and it's an empty house.
		And all you do is hear the white noise from the gig going through your head as you sit alone in the hotel room.
		That is one of the worst feelings there is.
		You have to learn to deal with that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're divorced once?
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		Twice.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Twice.
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		I'm ashamed to say.
		But things are looking good for me right now.
		I have a new woman in my life.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Is there?
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's always kind of an uptime there.
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it is.
		I'm very happy about the current situation in my world.
		I didn't think it would happen to me in my 60th year.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		She uh she understands uh the life you've led um she's trying to deal with it, yeah.
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I'm training.
		What can I tell you?
		But it's tough.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Uh it's tough, yeah, I know.
		Um I you know, I would love, listen, I'm coming to the part of the show where I always ask my guests, or I try to, and I know you've got a cold, and I know you're not used to staying up real late necessarily, but I'd love to let the audience ask you some questions, and I'm sure they would love to ask you some questions.
		It's just a matter of whether you're up for it and whether you're feeling all right.
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, fine with them.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So then, really, you've been through a lot of times where you're up, back down again, rock bottom, starting all over again.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		A lot of starts over, huh?
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		But, you know, how would you know what the ultimate high in life can be if you haven't been to the bottom?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		And the blues is, blues music represents the bottom.
		Blues music is designed to heal and help people get over the worst crises in life.
		That's what's so beautiful about blues music.
		That's why it's cherished throughout the world still, even today, in this world of hip-hop and whatever else is going on.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You mentioned politics.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What are your politics like?
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		My political stance is to get people to dance.
unidentified		Still stand by it today.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, they danced their way through the Carter administration and through what's his name here recently, and they danced a lot in a lot of administration.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, I take it you didn't really favor the Vietnam War.
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		Well, no, I mean, coming from a half-military family, I had sympathy for the combatants and for the soldiers.
		It wasn't their fault.
		The people that should have went on trial for that travesty should have been the generals and the captains and the colonels.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And maybe even a president.
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		And the map readers and the intelligence or the lack of intelligence.
		You know, the troops were blind, blind faith.
		And, you know, the aftermath was just...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's what you do in the military.
		All right, stay right there.
		We'll be right back and we'll go to the phones with Eric Burton.
		I'm Art Bell from the High Desert.
		This is Coast to Coast AM.
		Don't touch that dial.
unidentified		You're listening to Art Bell somewhere in Time.
		Tonight featuring a replay of Coast to Coast AM from February 21st, 2002.
		There's a man with a gun over there.
		Telling me, I got to beware.
		I think it's time we stop.
		Children, watch that sound.
		Everybody look what's going down Music by Ben Thede X Cause he was telling everyone in town all that he felt.
		And reason made a play to split.
		He talked and talked.
		And I heard him say that she had pretty eyes anywhere.
		And reason ain't of his latest fame Though I smiled, the tears inside were burning I wished him luck and then he said goodbye He was gone but still his words kept returning What else was there for me to do but cry?
		Would you believe that yesterday This girl was in my arms and swore to me She'd be mine eternally And reason ain't a place plain Though I smiled, the tears inside were burning I wished him luck and then he said goodbye
		You're listening to Arc Bell somewhere in time on Premiere Radio Networks.
		Tonight, an ongoing presentation of Coast to Coast AM, from February 21st, 2002.
		We're talking about Presley a while ago on this record.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Sort of different from the rest of the genre from Presley.
		It's never left me.
		It's always haunted me.
		I don't know why.
		Just something about it that haunts me.
		My guest is Eric Burton, and he'll be right back.
		We're about to go to the phones.
unidentified		We're about to go to the phones.
		You're listening to Arc Bell Somewhere in Time on Premier Radio Networks.
		Tonight, an encore presentation of Coast to Coast AM from February 21st, 2002.
		Music All right, well, once again, back to Eric Burton.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Eric, the House of the Rising Sun, I did want to ask you quickly about that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Did you ever get down to the real House of the Rising Sun in New Orleans?
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I found, eventually located what I believe to be the original House of the Rising Sun.
		It's owned by a very well-known attorney in New Orleans, and it's located on St. Louis Street and has been carefully restored to its pristine original state.
		And I was lucky enough to be invited there to dinner one night.
		And to my surprise, the gathering of people there were basically comprised of about 40 Catholic nuns, two high-ranking police officers and a couple of high court judges.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, my.
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		And they requested that I sing the song in the main parlor, which was quite an experience.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I bet it was.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What was behind writing that?
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		Well, I didn't write it.
		It's traditional from way back.
		I believe it was an English folk song that came across the Atlantic with immigrants.
		And that's my belief.
		There are other theories, but it certainly is in a minor key.
		And it certainly has not a blues progression.
		I would imagine that it's a derivative of a hymn, I believe.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What's it like when you release a song like that and then you watch it and it begins to grow.
		And it was like a snowball going downhill, gathering snow around.
		It just gets bigger and bigger and bigger and pretty soon.
		Someone walks in and says, guess what?
		Number one, look, billboard number one.
		Must be a strange feeling.
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I can remember the night that it went to number one is crystal clear like it was yesterday.
		It was just very, very special buzz in the room.
		And all of these young kids'faces were just lit up as we took the stage.
		And it was a great feeling.
		And I still get a kick out of singing that song.
		I mean, I improvise within the structure of the chords.
		And, yeah, it's still an attractive song to sing today.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		To the phones.
		Here we go.
		Wildcard Line, you're on the air with Eric Burden.
		Where are you, please?
unidentified		This is Ann in Springfield, Missouri, KWTO.
unidentified		Keep watching the Ozarks.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hey there, Ann.
unidentified		Hi, Art.
		Thank you.
		This is a great ride tonight.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
unidentified		Eric, babe, you rock my soul.
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		Oh, thank you, darling.
unidentified		Before tonight's program, I indulged myself with your DVD, Eric Burden and the New Animals, live at the Coach House.
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah.
unidentified		Killer concert.
unidentified		Loved it.
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
unidentified		Eric, could you tell us a story about an encounter with Janis Joplin during a warm San Francisco night?
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I was told that I wanted to go see the Doors were playing, and I can't remember how else, but I wanted to go to the Fillmore, and it was actually, you know, impossible unless you had some sort of an in.
		And I got word from one of the Hells Angels that Janis would meet me at the stage door entrance at 1 o'clock on the dot, and there she was, and I stepped across the threshold.
		She shook hands with me, and I opened my hand, and there was two purple pills in the palm of my hand, which I promptly ate.
		and it took us about three hours to get from downstairs, upstairs, through the dance floor, around the other end, down the stairs at the other end, and then the dressing rooms, and it took us about three hours.
unidentified		Little purple haze there.
		Well, thank you.
		Your music keeps us young.
		Thank you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Take care.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		There have been rumors for years and years and years about a big stash of LSD that Timothy did,
unidentified		buried somewhere you hear anything about that no all right East of the Rockies I think he took it all with him that could be east of the Rockies you're on the air with Eric Burden hello hello Mr. Bell and Mr. Burden my name is Steve I'm a senior at the University of Iowa and I'm a research assistant to a class taught on Elvis Presley called Elvis's Anthology really yeah we listen to a lot of old music and a lot of the music that influenced Elvis
unidentified		and other artists and I guess what I'm curious about I've read your book Mr. Burden the New One and it's really good there's a little plug for you I'm wondering if there are any of your influences that seem to be I don't want to say forgotten but maybe not as well known to people who are young that you would like us to know about well I've
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		I said earlier on in the program when I was talking about Hendrix that we had a mutual friend out of Cleveland called Roland Kirk.
		He changed his name later to Rahsan Roland Kirk.
		And to me he was the most accomplished of all jazz musicians.
		But he was beyond a jazz musician because he sang gospel, played blues, and he could play three horns once.
		And he had breathing techniques which were yogic, which meant he could play nonstop.
		And it's actually captured on one of his records, which have all been reissued by the way on Atlantic on CD so you can get them all.
		And there's one session where he blows a tenor solo for the length of one side of an LP.
		Wow.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Whoa.
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		that's incredible you you that's you you witnessed that yourself you've seen that oh yeah many times unfortunately he pushed himself too hard and he had a stroke in his 40s and That was his demise after that.
		I mean, this guy really just wanted to get out of his body and into a different sphere.
		I mean, and his knowledge of old New Orleans marches and dirges and all the way up to playing pop music.
		He's just a walking soundtree.
		And I can't impress enough to young Americans who haven't been exposed to this guy to listen to his music.
		It's absolutely wonderful.
unidentified		Well, that's fantastic.
		Thank you.
		I'll definitely check him out.
		I'm writing a thesis right now.
		And some of the academic powers that be don't think that this music has enough merit to carry along academic research, but it's only been around 100 years.
		Yeah, exactly, exactly.
		Can I put that as a blurb on the front of it?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, just put in there that soon their generation will die and things will change.
unidentified		Thank you very much, gentlemen.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, you're welcome, Taylor.
		West of the Rockies, you're on the air with Eric Burden.
		Hi there.
unidentified		Hello, is that me?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's you, sir.
unidentified		Oh, hey, how are you doing, Eric?
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		Good.
unidentified		It's Randy from Reno Valley, just down the road here.
		A couple things.
		I know you, a while back, you bought a new Harley.
		I wonder if you're getting any chance to ride it.
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I wrote it today, actually.
unidentified		Did you?
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		Oh.
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		Went through the Social Series National Monument.
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		It was one of the things.
unidentified		And one other thing, while I was sitting here waiting to get on, I flashed back to the Queen Mary.
		You looked across the bar and said, Gene Vincent.
		And I said, huh?
		Gene Vincent, what do you think of him?
		You caught me off guard.
		I didn't have much to say.
		But I just wondered if he was an influence or if he had some sort of pertinent meaning in your career.
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I've written quite a lot about Gene in my book.
unidentified		Well, I've got the book, but I've got to wait till the wife finishes reading.
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, okay.
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		Well, you'll find some titillating stuff about Gene in there.
unidentified		Oh, okay.
unidentified		What do you want to tell us now, though, huh?
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		Great character.
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		Well, you know, Gene was ultimate white trash, you know.
unidentified		Really?
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		And I remember there was a session, he was assigned to reprise, which was owned by Frank Sinhauder.
		And Frank walked in in the middle of one of Gene's sessions, and promptly just ordered them out out of his studio.
		I don't want this low-life rock and roll music in my studio.
		And he threw them out.
unidentified		I understand he could party pretty good, though, huh?
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		Well, I would have taken that as a compliment.
unidentified		Yeah, yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		He mentioned Harley.
		You spent a lot of time with Steve McQueen.
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, well, not a lot of time, but we were neighbors in Palm Springs for about two years and rode quite a lot with both dirt bikes and dune buggies.
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		He had an awesome dune buggy with a 9-11 Porsche engine in it.
unidentified		Wow.
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		Just a beast.
unidentified		Wow, wow.
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, we had a lot of fun together.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I bet that thing would just about go straight up.
		All right.
		First time CallerLine, you're on the air with Eric Burden.
		Hello.
unidentified		Hi, Eric.
		This is Brian from San Diego.
		How are you doing?
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		Pretty good.
unidentified		I had a couple of comments about Jimi Hendrix and a question about Jimmy really quickly.
		The comments are, I've been researching Jimmy's life and music and everything for pushing 25 years, and I thoroughly believe that Jimmy was murdered.
		It's next to impossible for someone to drown themselves in red wine.
		And I just, you know, there's such a focus on a lot of the drugs and so forth around Jimmy's life.
		And every opportunity I get, I try to, if you will, resurrect some of Jimmy's reputation.
		It doesn't bring him back, but he was such an incredible person living out his potential that this narrow focus, it seems to be pervasive.
		The other thing that I found out, and while I understand that Jimmy experimented with heroin, he was not a junkie and was actually terrified of needles.
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		I believe that's true.
unidentified		Yes, sir.
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		But, you know, there was so much light around the guy, but he attracted so much darkness in those last days in London.
		And the first night he turned up the jam with me at Ronnie Scott's Curl, he definitely could smell hell.
		He was out of control.
		But the next night, as I say, he came back and he was totally straight.
unidentified		He was totally straight.
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		So to me, that proves he was dabbling and chipping, but I don't think he was a trickoff.
unidentified		My last thing here, really quickly, is that I've definitely experienced Jimmy's spirit before, and I don't do drugs at all.
		Over the last 30 years, I've had some really more vivid and real than this world with Jimmy.
		And my question to you is, do you ever have you experienced Jimmy's spirit, being with you or coming to you and being connected with you?
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		I've lived with it on a day-to-day basis since the day he died.
		Well, not since the day he died, but since the first day I ever saw him play.
		Wow.
		He's just there all the time.
unidentified		Amazing.
		Well, I'd ask him tonight if he would help me get online to speak with you.
		So I want to say sing on Brother Play On Drummer.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you very much.
unidentified		Thank you.
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, Wildcard Line, you're on the air with Eric Burden.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Good morning.
unidentified		It is such a pleasure to speak with both of you.
unidentified		What a show, Mr. Burton.
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
unidentified		Thank you so much.
		You guys, I have a question for Mr. Burden.
		You were real an inspiration to, I can just feel all, I guess my generation, our generation, whatever you want to say, is just, I don't know, I can feel it tonight.
		It's just such a special guest, you know, art you have there.
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		I know.
unidentified		Golly.
unidentified		Well, anyway, I had a question from Mr. Burton there.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Go ahead.
unidentified		It seems that it's so sad that it seems the old saying, lonely at the top.
		You know, It seems, isn't it kind of scary in retrospect?
		Isn't it kind of doesn't it make you wonder why they seek the top or why because of such an influence that's created?
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		Well, you know, I've been able to deal with that because I never really searched for the top.
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		I didn't come to America to have hit records and following the track of the Beatles and the Stones.
unidentified		I was going to come to America in the Merchant Navy.
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		I came here to find the roots of what created this music, this blues music that enchanted the world, that changed the world.
		What caused it?
		What made it?
		That's what I came here for, to live and research that.
		And maybe I got too close to it, and that's how I've had so many problems with the straight world business recording and of this recording business.
		I just don't see eye to eye with most people.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Early on, after the early success and the band broke up, there were a few bucks missing, weren't there?
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		Well, I've been told about $6 million.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Six million dollars?
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		That's what I was told by an attorney who researched it.
		And I also have to say that that missing monies went into kick-starting Jimmy's career.
		I knew that we were using the same bank, the same accountants, the same management.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So it was development money for Jimmy, sort of.
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		So yeah, the animal's money, I believe, was used to seed Jimi Hendrix's career.
		And I have to point out here that two of the world's greatest artists projected as, you know, having everything in the world that they ever wanted.
		Elvis Presley, when he died, had $35,000 in his bank account.
		Jimi Hendrix, when he died, had £7.95 in his bank account.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, my God.
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		It's incredible.
		It's murder.
		It's highway robbery and murder.
		All over the place.
		There's bodies left, right, and center.
		If you research it, it's incredible.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And how does that happen?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, how does it happen?
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		It happens because the nature of the business is that while you're out on the road performing, your money is going to a different location.
		An artist can't be expected to pick up 20 grand at the end of the night after a festival and walk the streets of Detroit with 20 grand stuffed in your pants.
		It has to go to an agency somewhere else.
		And you're separated from your money.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I understand.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
unidentified		Hold on.
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		Then comes in what you call creative accountancy.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Creative accounting.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		$6 million in creative accounting.
unidentified		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Eric Burton is my guest.
		I'm Art Bell.
		This is Coast to Coast AM in the nighttime.
unidentified		You're listening to Art Bell Somewhere in Time on Premier Radio Networks.
		Tonight, an oncore presentation of Coast to Coast AM from February 21st, 2002.
		Imagine electrophile.
		Mother's dancing, baby on her shoulder.
		The sun is sweating like molasses in the sky The lights in the new and hot moon Everything always wanted more.
		Feeling you're longing for Black velvet and a little boy Thank you.
		Riders of the star.
		Riders of the star.
		Into this house we're born.
		Into this world we're talking.
		Like a dog without a bone.
		It's a killer of the road.
		Riders on the star.
		It's a killer of the road.
		It made it working like a dog.
		It killed a day.
		Let your children play If you give this man a ride Sweet family will die Killer on the road Yeah Sweet
		family will die you're listening to Ark Bell Somewhere in Time, tonight featuring a replay of Coast to Coast AM from February 21st, 2002.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Rock music is kind of very light at times.
unidentified		You've got to love your man.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Sometimes it's very dark.
unidentified		It's time.
		It's time.
		Now we take you back to the night of February 21st, 2002, on Art Bell, Somewhere in Time.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		My guest is Eric Burton.
		He was inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.
		How did that feel?
		Get inducted?
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		It was a bit weird because I was on tour in Germany at the time, and my keyboard player came across to me and said, guess what?
		You've been inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.
		And I thought, oh, that's cool.
		But I couldn't be there because I was on tour.
		So the result of that was that the people at the Rock and Hole Hall of Fame committee, they thought that I deliberately snubbed them, which isn't true at all.
		It's just that I had a job to do and I couldn't duck out of it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Did it?
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		Talk about Don't Let Me Be Misunderstood.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And by the way, you wrote another book entitled I Used to Be an Animal, but Now I'm All Right Now.
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I used to be an Animal, but I'm Alright Now.
		Now that.
		Did you come up with that title?
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You did?
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		That's selling on the World Wide Web for like $300 a copy now, isn't it?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Why that title?
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		It was actually, I came out of a gig and it was written in graffiti on the wall.
		And in huge white letters.
		And I was photographed against it.
		And I thought, that'd be a great title for a book.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Might as well roll with it, huh?
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air with Eric Burden.
		Good morning.
unidentified		Hello.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello.
unidentified		Oh, hi.
unidentified		Hi.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Where are you?
unidentified		Oh, I'm in Providence.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Rhode Island.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, okay.
unidentified		But about 20 years ago, I was in L.A. and I was in a situation and I got stuck and I was hitchhiking and Eric stopped and was very nice and gracious and helped me out and gave me a ride and it's always been, you know, it's very unassuming.
unidentified		So I wanted to thank him for that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You gave this guy a ride?
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Eric?
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
		Where were you?
		Where was it at the time?
		Do you remember that?
unidentified		Yeah, it was in L.A. going down.
		I don't exactly remember where, the exact geography of it, but it was going down towards USC area, I guess.
		But I don't know.
		I don't know, but I remember it was you and you were really cool about, you know, you mentioned that you were in a band, and I thought it was just a little band.
		And you said, you know, the animals.
		The animals.
		Oh, my gosh.
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		Can you remember what car I was driving?
unidentified		It wasn't even.
		That's the thing.
		It was like a really, you know, like, it wasn't like a rock star car or anything like that.
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		It was an El Camino pickup truck.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So you ran around for a while to pick up truck, huh?
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you know, I did the California thing to the Max when I first came out here.
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		You know, El Camino rifle on the rack in the back, collie dog, and a Yellow Hawk dirt bike in the bed, you know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, it sounds like you help somebody out.
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		A lot of fun.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		West of the Rockies, you're on the air with Eric Burton.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Good morning.
unidentified		Hi, good morning.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		A couple questions.
unidentified		One, you out in the desert area around Joshua?
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		That's what tree?
unidentified		Remember what happened there with Croachy?
unidentified		Jim Crochy?
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		No, but lay it on me.
unidentified		When he died, they flew his body in a casket to LAX.
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		No, that wasn't Jim Croce.
unidentified		For me?
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		That wasn't Jim Croce.
unidentified		Yeah?
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		No.
unidentified		Jim Crochy, they flew into LAX, except for one thing, they hijacked the coffin.
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		No.
unidentified		It was Joshua.
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		Well, it was Phil Kaufman, a friend of mine who hijacked the coffin from LAX.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, really?
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		And it was, what's his name out of the Flying Burrito Brothers?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		He hijacked the coffin?
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		Well, it was, I can't remember, what's the name of the guy with the Flying Burrito Brothers?
		Brain's gone.
		But he had a death wish, and in his will, he wanted to have his body burnt up here in the Joshua Tree Monument.
		And his road manager, Phil Kaufman, went into the LAX Morgue, and they hijacked the body and brought it out here and set it on fire on a funeral pyre.
		And in fact, on my new album, which will be out in the next few weeks, I have a song that is about that incident.
		It's called Highway 62.
unidentified		Wow.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I hadn't heard any of that.
		Holy smokes.
		First time going online, you're on the air with Eric Burdenheim.
unidentified		Hi, there.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello.
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		Good morning.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Good morning.
unidentified		I'm calling from Medina, Ohio, listening to TAM out of Cleveland.
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		Thanks for the great show, and thanks, Eric, for the great music.
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
unidentified		My question would be, after all the years that you've put in, is there a point where it's strictly a job and financial or does the music work?
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		And that's what Rock and roll allows you to do.
		So I feel that my job is a great job.
		I have a great job.
		I enjoy my job.
unidentified		So even at the age of 60, as you say, that the music is still the drive that puts you on the stage and in the studio.
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		Oh, sure.
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		I mean, like any other job, there are mornings when you go, oh, no.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's what I was going to ask you about.
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		Do I have to get out of bed and travel to Florida today?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		But yes, of course.
		And now with the new security systems that you've got to go through to get on flights, it's made it even worse.
		But that's my job, and that's what I chose to do.
		So I'll be there.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What do you, and you don't have to answer this if you don't want to, what do you think of America's position today?
		I mean, here we are just struck with horrible terrorism.
		First time that most Americans living today have ever experienced anything like that on their own soil.
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		Well, I just have to say great lack of intelligence.
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		We knew, they knew this was coming.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		They just didn't know where or when.
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		They didn't know on what scale, but I had a feeling they knew it was coming.
		I mean, come on.
		The towers had already been attacked once.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		They knew it was a target.
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		You know, and without guessing the horror of losing that many people, it's a tragic thing to have happened.
		But, you know, and I spend a lot of time in Europe and, you know, there are ongoing terrorist attacks all the time over there.
		That's right.
		But we deal with them, you know, and we don't go declaring war on the world.
		This is a very precarious situation now we're in at the moment.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		precarious all over the world middle east is A disaster right now.
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
		All we can do is pray.
		We're doing the right thing.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Wildcard Line, you're on the air with Eric Burton.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Good morning.
unidentified		Hello.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello.
		Yeah, you got me here at Petaluma.
		I do.
unidentified		All right, Mike here.
		Hey, Eric, it's been a long time.
		I helped you get on the stage there in Doheny.
		Remember you came in, just about didn't make it there?
		I liked the band.
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		Doheny?
unidentified		What was that, about a year ago?
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah.
unidentified		Coming in from the desert?
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah.
unidentified		Yeah.
		And I liked the band.
		I was wondering, are you promoting your new album now or a book?
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		Not yet.
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		I can't promote any of the new album until all of the legal paperwork, publishing is all complete because there's so many bootleggers out there that I have to be covered lawfully before I perform any of the new work.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's a very good point.
		The world is changing, Eric, with the internet and with the bootleggers.
		The minute anybody's got their hands on anything, it's everywhere and it's unstoppable.
		What do you think will happen with this ultimately?
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's killed the music business from my point of view.
		It's very damaging.
		I haven't been in a recording studio for many years because A, I don't understand the new technology.
		I couldn't see a place for my voice in it until recently when I met a producer who once was a drummer for me, Tony Brownagel, and showed me that he and his musicians and the system that he has in LA can record digitally but can mix it and make it sound like it was recorded analog.
		And I'm very happy with the way my new record sounds.
		But I produced it myself, financed it myself, and I know the minute that it's released it's going to be downloaded and bootlegged.
		But at least if I have the publishing hold tied up, at least I'll have some recourse to go after people.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The difference in music in the 60s and now with all the digital technology, it's a big, not a little difference, it's a gigantic difference.
		I mean, everything then was tubes.
		was a certain built-in kind of nice distortion to it all.
		It's hard to describe, but this is...
		That's right.
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		And that meant one thing.
		It meant that every individual had his own micing system which went into the four or eight track board.
		So each instrument had his own personal power, you know, power line to the pressing of the record, and the grooves were much bigger and wider.
		So when you had just simply four or eight tracks dumped onto a 45 record and then pushed out over a Bell Amaze jukebox, which was designed for that particular sound, it hit you right between the eyes.
		It wasn't stereo.
		It wasn't diffused.
		It was mono.
		And it just bang, you know, it was just rock, you know, just out there, you know.
		And music doesn't sound that way these days.
		And people don't listen like they used to.
		They don't listen like they used to.
		They don't look at movies like they used to.
		MTV has ruined movies as far as I'm concerned.
		I mean, the way people cut movies now, they cut movies like MTV Videos.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's true.
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		There's only a few people like Robert Altman and directors like him that are still making movies in the old-fashioned way, where the images are warm and engaging and full of action on the screen.
		I mean, the digital effects have just taken over from writing and writers and stories.
		It's not a very good situation.
		And I think all of Hollywood know this they're shaking in their boots at the moment.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, you know, something's got to change, I think.
		Maybe it's just my age, but I can listen to music starting in the 50s and 60s and 70s a little bit.
		And I get into the 80s and then there's not so much that I like.
		In the 90s, there's hardly anything.
		And I just, maybe I'm like my dad who used to run in, you know, when I'd be playing songs like yours and turn that trash on.
		And I'm getting that way because my age, I don't know.
		But it just has changed.
		And I wonder if it's ever going to swing back.
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		Well, all I know is I buy CDs.
		It takes me a half an hour to break into the jewel box with a knife or with a pair of scissors.
		I get it out, and you put one thumbprint on it, and it's click, jump, scratch, and it's over.
		And then, you know, you want to travel with it, so you take it out of the jewel box and you put it into a carrying case so you have it in your car.
		And then you've lost track of where the jewel box is.
		So it ends up just lying on a stack of other CDs that you've bought gathering dust.
		And as soon as they've got dust on them, they don't play anymore.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And scratches.
		I know.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air with Eric Burton.
		Good morning.
unidentified		Hello, Art.
unidentified		How you doing?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Doing all right, sir.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Where are you?
unidentified		I'm in Columbus, Ohio.
		Okay.
		My name's Jay.
		Yeah, Eric, I was wanting to ask you, I know you said earlier about blues music, how you was really influenced in that.
		Are you influenced in any kind of country music?
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I am.
		I love certain country.
		I love any kind of music.
		Well, the music that I'm listening to more than anything right now is what is called, termed world beat.
		I love Gaelic music because it was the first music I ever listened to.
unidentified		Scottish.
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, Scottish-Irish pipes.
		And the mixture now, some of these bands are mixing Celtic music with African beats, you know.
		And that's what excites me because that tells me that musicians around the world are uniting.
		There is an incurrent of people coming together.
unidentified		Well, see, I'm a musician myself, and I listen to a lot of Pink Floyd.
		I mean, I'm like 21 years old, but I still like it.
		I mean, it's really good to listen to.
		I listen to all Hank Williams stuff, too.
		I just blend everything that I listen to as well.
		So, yeah.
		I just wondered if you ever listen to anything like that.
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah.
		I love country music.
		I love folk music.
		Anything.
		Anything that's got soul.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		There you are.
unidentified		Thank you very much.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		you're welcome and I think we might have time maybe for well you Let's take a second and plug at least your new book.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		When your new book is out now.
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		It's out now.
		It can order it on Amazon.com or directly from Thunder's Mouth Press in New York.
		And also, you can get information from my website, which is EricBurton.com.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, we've got all that, as a matter of fact, linked on my website right now, so it's an easy step for everybody.
		How do you feel about after writing a book like that and then it's suddenly out there?
		How do you feel about it?
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		I feel pretty good about it.
		Some of the Q ⁇ As that I've done at signings, particularly when people have read the book and they want to get deeper into some of the things that I've written, it's a lot of fun to just stand up there and answer people's questions and play around with theories.
		They give me their theories and I give them my input.
		And I enjoy it a lot.
		It's really good.
		I want to continue.
		I want to continue writing.
		I think I've got several books in me.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So you're going to keep going?
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		I think so, yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, listen, God, what a pleasure it has been to have you here tonight.
		Unusual honor.
		And I hope all goes very well with your new lady and all you, you know, with a new book and new music coming out.
		It's like starting all over again, again.
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		Again, again, again.
		I appreciate it.
		I've really enjoyed listening to the program, even though I've been a part of it.
		I thoroughly enjoy it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, my friend.
eric burdon ▲ ● ▼		Good night.
		Good night.
		God bless.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's Eric Burton.
		Good night, Eric.
		That's it for tonight, folks.
		From the high desert.
unidentified		In the studio part of the city, I'm Art Bell.
		When the sun refused to shine, people tell me they're hateful for young and pride.
		Ta-da.
		My girl, you're so young and friendly.

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