Art Bell welcomes Stan Romanek, who recounts December 15, 2000, and September 30, 2001, UFO sightings near Denver’s power lines and Red Rocks Amphitheater, involving silent ascents, sonic booms, and unexplained beams—credibility bolstered by six witnesses and video evidence. Later, Neil Slade joins, linking Stan’s passive skepticism to "effortless effort" in paranormal receptivity, while detailing his amygdala-switch technique to unlock creativity via frontal lobe stimulation, citing a 17-year-old’s ecstatic response. Slade debates near-death experiences with Bell, referencing Swami Rama’s EEG-controlled consciousness and the Albert Roy Davis Lab’s high-frequency brain studies, suggesting reality may blend subjective perception with external agreements. Ultimately, the episode merges UFO anomalies with neuroscience theories, proposing that altered states—whether paranormal or creative—stem from untapped brain dynamics. [Automatically generated summary]
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I'm Mark Bell, and this program is Coast to Coast A.M. I'd like to welcome a new affiliate tonight.
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Also witnessed close-up by a half dozen other people easily and aired on the local news there.
This UFO first appeared directly above power lines next to the road about 50 feet from witnesses.
It almost instantaneously and completely silently popped many hundreds of feet up into the air, which time the video camera was turned on.
Careful inspection of the video, and they do a still frame for you, shows the six smaller diameter balls on the bottom of the craft rotating about the base, which, according to the witnesses, was, quote, as dark as a black hole.
Kind of like looking into infinity, end quote.
For months after the sighting, get this, birds began colliding into Stan's car windshield 34 separate times, actually, over the next several months.
It suddenly stopped after another UFO beamed his vehicle on September 30th, 2001.
So this, number one, is a new story.
I'd like to add it's under investigation by MUFON right now.
And I'd like to discuss the nature of this sighting in the video.
And on my website at artbell.com.
Go to tonight's guest information at artbell.com.
And when you get there, you'll see Stan's UFO video number one, Stan's UFO video number two.
I am most impressed by Stan's UFO video number two.
So, in fact, I'd like to give Stan my impressions of the video very quickly.
Stan, when I watched the first video only, you know, obviously I saw the UFO, but I was not overly impressed.
I thought, this guy can't hold a camera.
You know, I'm going to get sick to my stomach.
We're taking a ride here.
This is bad.
And I thought, what a bunch of junk.
And then I watched the second video.
And in the second video, I'm just giving you my quick impression.
The UFO is clearly visible, particularly in the stopped footage.
But what did get to me, Stan, was, and we don't want to give out, because it's under investigation by MUFON right now, we don't want to screw anybody's investigation up.
I'd rather not give the names of the other witnesses to this event, but at the end of the second video, if people will be persistent, they will see what apparently would be all your neighbors running out of their homes and joining you in the street.
And you caught all that, fortunately, you caught all that on videotape and all of them, older people and younger people alike, saw this amazing thing.
And believe it or not, more than anything else, because your eyes, I mean, video can never do justice to what your eyes see.
So hearing the reaction of these other people blew me away.
It's at the very end of the second video, folks.
So be persistent and make sure you stick with it.
But that's what got to me, Stan.
I saw those people and hearing what they were saying at the end, and it blew me away.
This was one real serious sighting.
Tell me about it from the beginning.
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Tell you about the first sighting I had.
Well, at that time, I had a girlfriend that lives in Nebraska.
She's near my fiancé.
She had never been to Colorado, and I wanted to videotape the surrounding area for her.
So I thought, well, gee, I'll get up this morning and I'll kind of surprise her with a nice videotape of Denver.
Up in the foothills, we have a very popular ample theater called Red Rocks Ample Theater.
A lot of musicians are pretty familiar with it, and they like to do concerts up there.
And I thought, you know, that'd be a perfect place to go do this.
Well, I was driving up there and I was heading west on a road that I've gone lots of times before to go up there and I noticed these cars were slowing down and I couldn't figure out what the heck.
Ah so you weren't really even the first to see it.
Somebody ahead of you obviously saw it and began to slow.
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Exactly.
Okay.
Well I noticed people were kind of looking off to it would be my left which would be actually south and all of a sudden I see this thing right over power lines and at first you know I'm I was a skeptic.
Do you actually think you were looking past or through the vehicle?
Could you discern anything at all actually behind it as in stars not as bright or anything at all?
Was it a clear night?
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It wasn't the first sighting I had was actually the daylight sighting and it was just black.
It's beyond black.
I can't even you know I look around thinking back and I look around to see if there's anything that compares and there's nothing that compares whatsoever.
Absolutely nothing that compares to how black that object was on the bottom.
Well, anyway, so this first sighting, so all these cars slow down.
You almost get hit, and you see this thing, and then what?
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Well, I was driving along.
I had my video camera down by my side, and I was actually driving along, and it started, as it started moving, I kind of kept up with it, and I sped up in front of it and pulled over, and right at that point, when I was getting out of my car, it kind of orientated itself straight up and just popped to about 1,000 foot.
Now, this thing made no noise until it accelerated away, and it made a small sonic explosion.
Oh?
That's the best way I can describe it.
It made a popping noise you could feel through your bones.
You know, I mean, if these things are real, and they certainly are something, they're something.
Ours, theirs, Russians, Chinese, I don't know, something.
They're real.
There's no doubt about it.
I've had my own experience, so I know damn well they're real.
I don't know what they are, but they're real.
So if they are real and our military isn't interested, then our military is not taking care of us because these things are violating our airspace, right?
And let me take care of business in this first half hour with that little cliffhanger, because trust me when I tell you, this story is far, far from over.
It's going to get really fascinating.
And then, in a way, we're going to follow up in the next hour with Neil Slade.
It's going to be quite a night.
Stay right there.
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Oh, my gosh, folks.
What do I say to you to impress you?
There have been a lot of interesting things to look at lately in the sky.
Stan is telling you about one of them.
But fixed, rather fixed, in the sky, four-nightly viewing at any rate, are these incredible things that...
And I'm talking about deep star clusters, looking into areas where stars are birthing.
If you want to look at something close and blow yourself away, try the moon a quarter million miles away.
And let me tell you, it's like walking around in craters.
One of these is six inches in diameter, the other eight inches in diameter.
Well, like I said, we were just at the end of Ohio driving west on Interstate 80.
And she goes, look at that.
And we're thinking, look at what?
Now, we were watching planes.
You know, as you drive, you get kind of bored.
We're watching planes fly by.
Well, we all noticed that this thing had no contrail, whatever it was, and it was flying, you know, kind of, well, it was flying in a different direction than all the planes were.
And I had my video camera with me, and I also had binoculars underneath the seat.
Well, she yelled, you know, somebody handed me the binoculars so we handed her the binoculars and she goes oh my god it's a UFO well sure enough I looked through the binoculars and it was a perfect your typical perfect disk shape UFO oh really now the interesting thing was this thing would hide behind we there were those little small little puffy clouds out beautiful day but just you know a few little clouds here and there and it would hide behind these clouds and then come popping out again and
And we noticed as we went forward, we went actually through three states, and this thing stayed ahead of us through three states.
Now we tried pulling over to get a better shot, because when you have auto focus on your camcorder, it doesn't work very well when you're doing 60 to 70 miles in a car.
Well, a lot of what you described, this popping from one location virtually to another, that's very common, as I'm sure you've now come find out in UFO sightings.
next several months exactly 34 birds and you know all this stuff I would have never even told anybody anything about my sightings about the birds about anything other than the fact that there are always so many witnesses around good example with the birds of my friend my best friend and I were going to a movie and we were in a parking lot of a mall and we were doing probably about 15 miles an hour.
Birds should be able to get out of the way when your car is going that slow.
Is there anything that as you reflect on the first sighting that happened to you that you recall, other than, you know, the normal state of shock that you're in when you see something like this?
Other than that, any effects on you that you can recall?
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You know, that's what everybody asks me because they correlate happening to the first sighting.
The fifth sighting was I had gotten home from work and I decided to go out and get gas.
It was about, oh, I'd say maybe 8 o'clock at night.
And I was coming home from getting gas, and I was headed south on a road that I go lots of times.
And I, you know, there's, in the area I live in Denver, in the Denver area that I live, there's, you know, every once in a while you'll see police helicopters, and they'll spotlight you if you're driving sometimes.
Well, I noticed the beam hit the ground right next to my car, and it kind of passed over my car, and I thought, well, gee, it's a police helicopter.
I'll roll down the window and wave at them.
Well, I was waving like an idiot, and I noticed, well, gee, there's no helicopter blade sounds.
And then I noticed there was actually somebody tailgating me at the time.
I was kind of getting a little upset.
But then I noticed they had slammed on their brakes and had stopped dead center in the middle of the road, probably about maybe 30 yards back.
Right.
At this point, the thing beamed through my car, and I was going through an intersection, and then I noticed the people that were stopped waiting for their turn at the light had their heads stuck out the window, and they were looking at my van with their mouths wide open.
And that's when it kind of dawned on me that this might not be a helicopter.
And sure enough, I looked out my window, and there was this round, spherical, blinking object, had a really unusual, real pretty blue light on the bottom of it, just right above my car.
And it had actually kind of moved a little ahead of my car and just started accelerating away, and I pressed on the gas and decided to follow it.
Yeah, that's, again, what crashed in on me about this videotape was that you kept the tape rolling when all these other witnesses came out going, oh my God.
And so, you know, it was obviously this is not a cooked up inning.
This is real as a heart attack.
And so it's all real.
Now, when this thing hit you with a beam, did you at that point feel any effects as it hit you?
I've done shows like this now for years, Stan, and what I've noticed is there are deeply religious, well-meaning, fundamental type Christians who regard the kind of thing that you saw very seriously, but they don't think that it's what we imagine it might be.
They think that it's that it's evil spirits.
Real evil spirits, you know, devils plaything things type things.
What do you think?
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I'll have to admit that there are probably a lot of people out there that are like that.
But most of the Christians I know, at least that I know, are a little bit more open-minded than that.
I was just going to say if they want to read some reports, they can actually go to Center.
There's a few places they can go.
National UFO Reporting Center, Peter Davenport has four of the witness accounts there.
One of the witnesses, and I don't know who this person is because he wrote it anonymously, was the person in the car that watched this thing beam my car.
Well, if it is, I can't say for sure it's little green men in a spaceship because I didn't see any little green men.
But at the same token, if our government has technology like this, we're way more advanced than I would think we would be.
And it's hard to imagine that our government, if we did have that kind of technology, would nonchalantly and almost brazenly show this thing off in front of, I don't know how many witnesses.
Do you think, do you believe that in the cases that you saw this each time, that it wanted to be seen?
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Actually, I do, for whatever reason.
I mean, like I said, I would have not even come out in public or even told my friends if it wasn't for the fact that each time this happened, there were not one, not two, but multiple witnesses.
Right.
Some of them, I mean, there are other video cameras, you know, there's more video camera footage.
All right, somehow my first guest, Stan Romanak, and my guest coming up, Neil Slade, know each other.
And they share an experience now.
Neil's had his own sighting.
He actually had a still camera with him and got a photo.
Neil Slade has been on the air before with me.
He's a teacher, composer, seasoned concert performer, author, artist.
His music has been heard by millions in the PBS documentary movie Soundtrack for Still and as music for the Kodak United States Traveling Exhibition.
He's given hundreds of concert, radio, and TV performances and so forth and so on.
He attended Metropolitan State College, the University of Colorado, and the University of Denver, graduated magna cum laude in 1978, certified by the state of Colorado to teach grades kindergarten through 12.
K through 12 has taught for 23 years privately and in the public school system.
Beyond his classroom instruction, he sought an estimated 24,000 people music and art lessons, students ages 6 through 66.
Slade was assistant to brain and behavior researcher TBA Lingo.
For 11 years, was at Colorado's Dormant Brain Research and Development Laboratory.
That's an interesting title, isn't it?
Colorado's Dormant Brain Research and Development Laboratory.
Established by Director Lingo in 1957, the lab was established in order to develop new and effective methods of increasing intelligence, creativity, and pleasure for any individual utilizing the latest neurological information blended with a wide assortment of knowledge ranging from yoga to meditation to traditional psychotherapy.
So this man knows a lot about our minds and what you can do with your mind that you didn't know you could do with your mind.
And we have many, many interesting areas to explore with him tonight coming right up.
Don't move.
Here now is Neil Slade, who's been on the program with me any number of times in the past.
And I read about his experiences in the newsletter.
And I then, you know, just out of curiosity, I called him up and I said, hi, how you doing?
I said, you know, I do art show once in a while and I'd be really interested in looking at your videos and if, you know, if it looks good, you know, maybe we can put it up on the website.
And I went, whoa, I've got to find out more about this.
So, you know, I spent some time with Stan.
I made an effort and I contacted five of probably what's out of 45 or 50 witnesses to the videos.
Everyone corroborated his story to the T. Sure.
My only, you know...
My only doubt came when I looked at the video and I thought, well, I wonder, you know, was Stan pulling something behind his fan that he released into the air when he got to the park?
I mean, this little evil voice inside my head.
I said, what else could this possibly be?
And I'm referring to the red orb, the flashing red orb.
So I called the president of the chat club, who I've known for a couple of years.
And I know him to be a very down-to-earth, not easily swayed, a very kind of rational, scientific thinking person.
And I called him up and I said, Garr, now I want you to tell me.
Now, you know, I don't know.
Did he go into very much detail about, I think he kind of skimmed over the sighting at Daniel's Park.
This was the, you know, you talked a lot about the third sighting.
But the second sighting just before that was a group of people who, as a regular basis, would go out to Daniel's Park for like a cookout and get together.
And he attended it this one week, and Garr was there from the chat club group.
And so as Stan is pulling up in his car into the parking lot, here comes the thing above and behind Stan.
It flies directly over everyone at the cookout within, people said, 30 feet.
They said it lit up the entire ground below them.
Several people got it on video besides Stan who just managed to get out of the car and shoot it as the thing's flying away and you can see the road sign in in the video.
And I talked to Gar and I said to Garr, I says, you know, is there any possible way this was, you know, like a balloon that was lit up from the inside?
And he says to me, he says, Neil, there is no possible way in this universe that this was a balloon.
And he described it to me as such.
And while he's describing it to me, a very peculiar, I would say almost telepathic image came into my head.
And I could see this thing as he's describing it to me.
It was very peculiar.
But anyway, he said it was like a laser light show in the sky, as if you had laser beams projected from the inside of some sort of device that outlined this geodesic grid, that the geodesic grid itself formed the image of a sphere.
But he said it was not a solid object.
It was a light object in the shape of a sphere.
And he said, and this is what clinched it.
He said it moved perfectly horizontally over the crowd of people at the speed between A Cessna and the jet.
Now, can you think of an internally lit balloon that would move at even the speed of a Cessna completely horizontal to the ground?
One of the very interesting things about Geller that I found out was that when he is all by himself, and I mean when he's sitting in a room by himself alone, he does not manifest these abilities.
However, when there are people around him that are either neutral, in other words, they don't believe or not believe, they're open to it, but it's like they're not convinced.
If they're neutral or if they believe that this is a possibility, he can then manifest the telekinetic energy and do the spoon bending and the watch bending and the metal bending.
Oh, look, under the circumstances, and in view of who was there, it's a good thing a war didn't start in the Middle East, you know, while he was trying to bend a spoon.
Can you hold on during the break?
All right, good.
Neil Slade is my guest.
I'm Art Bell.
This is Coast to Coast AM.
We're going to be exploring all kinds of things about the brain tonight.
The guest is Neil Slade.
Now, we're going to talk a little bit more about UFOs, but we're also going to talk about the brain.
We're going to talk about the spirit, the soul, and all the recent news on near-death, including the interview I did with Pam, the Lancet article, and all of this other breaking news.
This breaking news about the fact that apparently, when it's over, it's not over.
You know, it occurs to me somewhat interesting that the somewhat less than amazing Randy is willing to go on programs where he's got lots of company in the skeptic, doubting, let's make fun of it category, and not so willing to go on a program like this one where we have people of an opposite nature.
Now, perhaps that has something to do with what Neil Slade is telling us about the ability of somebody to conduit something when there are those who believe that it might be possible in the room versus the other way around.
Maybe that explains why Randy isn't too anxious to get over here on this program.
But anyway, so with Geller, there seems to be this very good possibility of him being a conduit or one that collects the energy around him, focuses it, and then demonstrates the principles.
Now, I don't know if Stan mentioned this or not.
His very good friend, Mark, was involved with the Art Belt group for many years, I believe.
But Mark heads up a local UFO enthusiast group.
This is a group that gets together and looks at UFO videos and talks about UFO experiences.
The majority of the people in that group, and I did go to one meeting after meeting Stan and all this stuff, have not had the personal encounters.
But they're very open and very enthusiastic about this, contrary to Stan prior to his first sighting.
In other words, Stan was, as he mentioned, totally skeptical.
Even though he had this friend, you know how sometimes you have a friend that is into something that you're not into, but you tolerate it.
Now, one thing I've noticed when going through the scientific data in regards to paranormal healing abilities and proof and biofeedback, one of the key elements for manifesting positive Results, say in biofeedback.
If you're hooked up to a biofeedback machine and you're trying to affect it and raise the temperature, the harder you try, the worse it works.
And when you employ what I call effortless effort, then nature takes over and the results that you're looking for work.
But if you lose your cool, right, and you start trying hard, it puts a damper on everything.
This is a very well-known principle in biofeedback.
Now, in my own brain research and studies, I've noticed exactly the same thing in regards to the manifestation of paranormal abilities in ordinary people.
For example, telepathy, precognition, even examples of telekinesis.
If you keep your amygdala clicked forward, which some of your listeners are familiar with by this time, if you're doing the right kind of brain self-control, right, and you relax, all of these paranormal abilities spontaneously happen without you trying to make them happen.
Now, I have sat here in previous programs that we've done, and I've tried telekinesis really hard.
In fact, I put a pen and stood a pen on my desk straight up vertically.
And I sat here, Neil, so hard, scrunching my face up in concentration, so hard, trying to put a push on the top of that pen, just enough to tip that pen over on my desk.
Scrunching my face so hard you'd think I was sitting on the can, you know, trying to get something done.
And it didn't budge.
I mean, it just didn't budge.
But maybe there's another approach, the one you're talking about.
And, you know, after, you know, for decades of looking into this kind of phenomenon, that's rule number one.
Don't try too hard.
So when I look at Stan's case, and even in the follow-up experience that I had, because I had my own UFO sighting shortly after meeting Stan.
And I got the picture of it.
Although it's not as impressive as his, it's still a photo.
And we'll talk about that in a minute.
But the one thing I learned is that if you just let things happen, and people always say, well, how can I turn on this paranormal ability and this by using my brain and stuff?
I said, you know, I always say, don't worry so much about it.
Just stay clicked into the frontal lobe processes and relax and keep tickling the amygdala.
You're not trying to do something in your brain with a sledgehammer.
You're just using a little feather.
Then all that paranormal stuff will happen.
Well, so when I look at Stan, I see he's got this field around him.
A friend of a friend, his friend, they're all dying.
These are the people who, like in the movie, rushed up to the top of the building with the welcome to earth, you know, group chiefs, and they got zapped, right?
He's an uninterested party of which the energy is now focusing through him.
And, you know, it's just interesting.
Now, one of the things that I deal with a lot on my site is I make a fair number of claims saying that if you tap into your brain potential, you can do all kinds of marvelous things if you do it the right way.
And on one page I say, you know, if you're going to contact aliens and see UFOs, you're going to have to learn how to turn on your frontal lobes to do it.
I said, "If you can click your amygdala forward and click on your frontal lobes, then you'll Let's give everybody the 101 on the amygdala.
You know, there's the saying that we only use 10% of our brain.
What really, I mean, in a way, that's true, but what's really most accurate is we only use a very small, infinitesimally small percentage of the potential of our brain.
Yes, the hemispherectomy is now a regularly performed operation used to control epilepsy and other things in which they actually remove one complete hemisphere of the cortex.
Well, I mean, you know, there have been cases where people suffer from the filling of fluid inside the brain that the acidic cerebral spinal fluid actually eats away until there's nothing left of the cortex but a one-sixth of an inch layer on the inside of the skull.
And if you could literally shine a flashlight through people's heads.
And well, and people continue, you know, to function with that particular condition.
All of the gray matter, nearly all of the gray matter and the white matter gone.
The core brain is still there, but we're talking about 90% of the brain.
Right.
But functioning just as before.
So, yes, we are, the potential of the brain is infinite, and we're only using an infinitely small percentage of that.
So one way of looking at things in the brain is to say, okay, we can turn on more of that potential, specifically in the frontal lobes, which is the part of the brain that computes cooperative behavior, imaginative behavior, creative behavior, intuition and logic.
Now, right in the middle of the brain, there's an organ called the amygdala, and we focus, we visualize on that.
And the amygdala is a little walnut-shaped part of the brain.
It's about the size of the tip of your thumb.
And it's located about one inch inside each temple.
You've got one amygdala for your left hemisphere and one amygdala for your right hemisphere.
The amygdala is a gateway of the brain.
It's connected to the frontal lobes and it's connected to the more primitive parts of the brain.
Now when you wake up in the morning, your reptile brain turns on.
And that's what T. D. Lingo's research was about for 35 years, starting in 1957.
Right.
Anyway, so one of the most effective methods that we learned for jump-starting this creative, intelligent part of the brain was to visualize this amygdala switch, one inch inside each temple.
And you visualize it like it's the light switch on your wall.
When it's clicked down and backwards, all the energy is stuck in the primitive part of your brain, at the base of your brain, at what's called the R complex.
The famous joke, okay, the reptile core of the brain that we're talking about computes the four F's of human behavior.
Feeding, fighting, fleeing, and reproduction.
That's all that our reptile brain does.
So if your amygdala is clicked backwards, that's all you're computing, is this reptile reactive behavior.
You know, drink water, fight with spouse, go to work, fight in traffic jam.
So, you know, ultimately, you know, you get 6 billion, seven people doing this across the world.
You get 6 people, billion that are all clicked into reptile brain, and then it manifests itself as pollution, and it manifests itself as wars, and it manifests itself, I would say, as in bad weather, you know, and all kinds of things because it's just this negative, bleak, unproductive, uncreative energy.
So the idea is now is to get people to start turning on more of that 90% dormancy.
So when you just get people another 1% smarter, who knows what will turn around, okay?
So anyway, you've got this amygdala switch.
we can do this right now.
It'll take all of 30 seconds to get people to click their amygdala forward.
Sit so you're comfortable.
Close your eyes.
Imagine that you have an amygdala light switch.
Just pretend it's just like the little switch on your wall, one inch inside the right temple and the left temple.
Okay?
You know, maybe imagine that it's a little almond.
Okay, amygdala comes from the Greek word meaning almond.
So you've got one in the one.
Now pretend you have a feather and you're holding a feather and you can magically reach in through the front of your cranium and tickle that little amygdala almond with the tip of the feather and just very gently go tickle, tickle, tickle on the left front amygdala and then reach over with the feather and tickle, tickle, tickle, tickle the front of the right amygdala.
And as you do that, that will automatically cause that little click switch to go click.
Well, all getting around to my UFO experience, ultimately, and the conversations with Randy.
Finally been, yes.
But anyway, you know, I say a lot of things on the website about brain self-control, and that's what I teach.
That's what the books and the music and the website's all about.
How people can gain control over their own brain and behavior so that life works.
And I couldn't keep doing it unless I didn't constantly, unless I was getting reinforcing encouragement from people who were giving me evidence that this in fact was possible and that they were doing it.
So tonight, for example, here's a letter from Katie, age 17, who I have never met.
I'm not paying her to write me this.
You know, why on earth would she write this unless she had an experience?
She wrote to me, she says, your page opened the doors to the hidden ecstasy that was in prison for all these years.
All my life, and even in my childhood, I was mostly exposed to the evils of other people in this world.
Things seemed dark and dreary all my life, and whenever I would make a mistake, I beat myself up for it.
Last year, I had a near breakup with my friend, and it hurt me pretty bad.
And this past summer, I was put under much stress, and I was mentally damaged because of it until now.
When I clicked forward, a wonderful feeling rushed over me like rapids of light and warmth.
I began to laugh non-stop for about five to ten minutes.
I felt so full of light, I just wanted to hug everyone.
It's how my friend once described being on the ecstasy drug, times one million.
When you take me through it and you take everybody through it, it really works.
I really feel it.
But it doesn't last for me.
It's like a little tickle does you and then unless you do it, you can repeatedly do it, but it's not a lasting, it's not like the switch stays forward for 24 hours.
Other people, well, you know, they're in a different place.
They may either be very comfortable where they're at.
So relatively speaking, there's not that big of a change to make between being, say, as this girl was, very upset, right, and finding that place.
Just the relief of that may have made a huge difference to her emotional state.
Whereas, you know, if you're comfortable and things are going pretty good and you click, you know, the changes are going to be more subtle and they're going to be accumulative.
So you can expect a very wide variation.
Another thing, also, when you start to deal with brain self-control, is that there's many subconscious and unconscious elements at work.
And I, for example, when I first started working at the brain lab, it took me a long period of time to discover and remove the unconscious blockages, the repressed traumatic memories that were blocking this energy from going forward.
This one young girl, for example, may have had very few blockages on an unconscious level, and so for her, when she focused the energy on the specific points of the brain, she was able to just kind of fully flow into it.
One of the first people to begin investigating these people is a fellow named Elmer Green.
And I think it might be good to, if we're going to get into that, maybe give a little background about who and what Elmer Green was all about.
The reason, and I can easily tie this into our previous discussion, as we mentioned, I had been to the amazing Randy website.
And in fact, there was a thread then going that an anonymous email alerted me to, in which people were talking about my website.
And people were saying things like, oh, Neil Slade is the most deluded person on the internet.
And they brought up the issue of cloud busting.
And they brought up the issue of the UFO stories that I was reporting on the website and the paranormal, tapping into the paranormal things and making that happen.
So I had some discussion with these people.
And what really got me going was, you know, I would bring up an issue of, well, haven't you heard about this particular thing?
Or haven't you heard about this particular proof?
And most of it was, it was just off the cuff dismissed because the people whom we're being critical really didn't have the facts.
So immediately afterwards, I said, okay, I'm going to get some very specific references, scientific proof of things like telekinesis, of instantaneous healing, of control of blood, heart rate, of telepathy.
Just before we proceed, I was asking you about the yogis, and then I really did want to ask you about everything you're telling us.
Have you had the opportunity to have anybody in some sort of brain scan or MRI or some scientific, hard scientific evidence of brain function actually beginning or increasing in a certain area of the brain with your techniques?
Much of what I talk about is already supported by the Foundation findings.
Although what sounds to many people as outrageous claims in terms of increasing blood flow in certain areas of the brain, most of this is already, a lot of this is already documented.
In terms of amygdala clicking, causing...
Oh, you can just go into any medical library and you will find evidence in terms of what parts of the brain does what, what kind of effects are happen when a person does biofeedback or meditation or imagery.
So there's a lot of data that points to what I'm talking about.
And so not at that particular point yet, but all of the subjective data, all of the feedback, all of the research that LINGO did for many years, it all points to that, yes, something is definitely happening here,
and it is certainly within the realm of possibility that we will be able to trace, we will be able to link the imaging of the imagery type of amygdala exercises with exactly the type of increase in blood flow to the frontal lobes and the decrease in the fight-or-flight types of responses.
But every indicator that we have subjectively points to that at this point anyway.
And just the basic tenets of neuroanatomy say that this is certainly possible, if not extremely likely, and so forth.
Pam was on 48 hours, but they never had enough time to tell the story properly there.
But basically, in a nutshell, Pam had a brain aneurysm, a little bulb ready to break and kill her in her brain.
And the only way that they could help her, otherwise it was a decent.
So it was a last-ditch effort.
They lowered her body temperature, I don't know, down in the 40s, and took all the blood out of her body.
Yeah, all the blood out of her body.
Her heart stopped.
And the EEG ceased, Neil, for one hour, for almost a full linear hour.
No brain waves, no life.
Anne was DEAD dead.
Dead, dead, dead.
By any measure, anybody would have declared her long since dead.
They went into her brain.
They clipped the aneurysm because, of course, with no blood in the body, it deflated like a deflated balloon.
And they just clipped it and sewed it up and sewed her back up, put the blood back in, put the paddles on her heart, and kick-started her heart, and she came back.
Now, she was able during this period of time, Neil, to describe everything that went on in the operating room.
Her doctor will verify this.
She saw all that went on during that hour, could account for the full linear hour.
And believe me, she was not just out, she was dead.
Now, she saw all of that, and she had a near-death experience on top of that.
And that was profound for me.
This interview was really, really profound because it means there is something separate from neural function.
Obviously, some sort of consciousness that has to be separate from neural function as we've been discussing it tonight.
So while he's snoring and they're looking at the machine showing that the guy's out like a light, they're all talking about this and that and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
He wakes up and he told them exactly what everyone in the room was talking about.
Swami Raw, and he was trying to, he did so many things, and we could, you know, we could spend hours literally talking about this long series of experiments.
And I told him the same story about Pam I told you, and he could only offer up, well, there must have been some unmeasurable amount of brain activity somehow going on somewhere in there.
They just didn't have instruments sensitive enough to measure it.
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If you try what Neil suggested, you actually do the little tickle and click the amygdala forward, you really will feel it.
That part really does happen.
And it affects almost everybody to varying degrees from just a little, oh, oh, wow, kind of thing to, well, the other end of the spectrum of effects actually is pretty interesting, something I'm sure we'll talk about as time goes on here.
Anyway, stay right where you are, and in a moment, we will continue to explore the separation of what seems to be, was called by people, the spirit of the soul and the mind, or the brain.
Stay right there.
This regard to the Swami Rama and others like him.
Now, again, I know yogis and others can do amazing things like I guess Swami Rama can.
But these appear to be functions or abilities of a living human brain, one in which there is brain function occurring.
Now, what I discussed when I discussed Pam and others like her, in fact, there's an article in The Lancet that we've gone over rather extensively on the show that backs up a lot of this, an awful lot of it.
This seems to be separate from normal brain function, at least insofar as science is able to detect it.
And so is there indeed, in your opinion, something that is separate from the brain that may encapsulate our consciousness?
And if anything, after looking at all of the just astonishing feats and the scientific laboratory examination of the feats of Swami Rama, he says,
and if anyone knows, I would imagine a guy who can stop his heart and describe conversations while he is wired up to an EEG machine showing that he is unconscious and who can move needles with his mind.
If anybody knows, this guy knows.
And he says, yes, there is a mind separate from the body and brain.
So, you know, until I come up with better proof, you know, you know, I would tend to, you know, I would tend to believe someone like this.
No, but I'm writing it down, so I'm definitely going to check it out.
What's probably, you know, I think, and I thought about this the other day, how would a person such as you or I know this for fact or experience?
And I think it would take an awful lot of deprivation of sensory information, something similar to the John Lilly's tanks that he used to sit in for days at a time, in which he shut off all of the sensory information to his brain.
He returned to the Himalayas to intensify his meditative practices in the monasteries.
In the Swamiji's, and they're talking about Swami Rama tradition, and I'm reading from his biography here, is required that the student spend a certain amount of time in isolation in a cave.
He lived for 11 months in a very small cave without seeing another person or coming out of the cave.
Food was left outside the cave, and cleansing of the body was done through vigorous pranayama practices, which I know personally to be breathing exercises.
Only a tiny point of light came through a hole in the ceiling of the cave.
So he did exactly this.
They don't have the float chambers in India.
They have caves.
And through this period of see things sitting in a dark cave.
Sure.
I am familiar with some retreats that are done in Japan in which people fast and spend very long periods of time in meditation.
And when you do that and are in isolation and all the senses are turned off, then you start getting input of various kinds from within the brain.
Now one of the people very heavily involved with bringing Swami Rama to the United States was a Dr. Elmer Green of the Menger Foundation in Topeka, Kansas.
This was a research laboratory that was set up to investigate mind-body control.
And one of the experiments that they did, and this went on for a very long period there, was brainwave training, in which subjects were wired up to a feedback machine, which indicated to them what level brain waves they were experiencing.
And in this particular experiment, they were learning how to produce theta waves.
Now theta waves are slower than both beta and alpha waves and are related to that condition just as you're falling asleep or just as you're coming out of dream state in the morning.
In our brain lab, we call this morning pre-consciousness.
And it's sort of a half-alert, you know, half-asleep state where you see images and we've associated that with some elements of ESP and telepathy and precognition.
And so when people deliberately put themselves into this theta type of state, which is conducive to the ESP type of information, they were able to, you know, they got all kinds of tales of ESP types of experiences that happened in the laboratory.
For example, one thing that they tried to do was to get people to, as soon as they were falling into the theta state, okay, and this is the theta state again is where all the outside sensory information is turned off.
Okay?
And you begin seeing what they called hypnagogic images, images that were coming from the unconscious mind.
And as soon as people slipped into the state, the researcher would sort of jolt the person out of the state and say, what are you seeing now?
What have you just seen?
For example, one person was asked that question.
And he said, well, I just saw a tall man with dark hair and horned-rimmed glasses.
This was the response of the subject who had just slipped into the theta state.
Well, it was incidences of the ESP or telepathy, which was noted by the researchers in connection with the theta state, which they did not see in the beta state or the alpha state.
It was, well, the percentage of people reporting the paranormal or telepathic types of messages was virtually zero in the people in the beta or the alpha wave states.
And those states being different from theta is that they're a much more conscious type of state where you're aware of the surroundings and you're aware of yourself.
As you slip into the theta, the boundaries of the ego disappear and the sensory information becomes irrelevant.
You're not even aware of the environment.
You've turned in.
And when that happens, when you've turned off the outside, then the inside information becomes most important.
And that's when they started noticing, incidentally, that the subject was talking about stuff he shouldn't have known about, such as the tall man with the hornroom glasses, who just walked into the control room completely unknown by the subject, who was in a totally different room.
Or another example of this might have been in this particular study that I read.
The subject was in theta and they said, what do you see?
And the subject said, well, I see a plant falling over a wall.
And moments later, one of the texts comes back in and said, so-and-so upstairs on the third floor just dropped a plant over the wall in the so they were getting all of this extrasensory information and it was occurring in the theta state, this internalized state.
Now one thing that I came upon which was very interesting and let's see this is from the Albert Roy Davis Research Laboratory and they talked about investigations towards the proof that the brain functions and emits frequencies much higher than those generally adopted.
And I know you and I have talked about, well, you know, how does telepathy work?
How does information get from one part of the country to another part or from two different floors, you know, like in this experiment that we're just talking about?
How does that work?
Beta, alpha, theta, and delta are all 1 to 50 cycles per second brain wave frequencies.
If you look at an oscilloscope, for people who don't know what we're talking about, brain waves are measured in pulses like the frequencies of a violin string.
So when you're in, for example, delta, you know, your brain waves are very slow.
They're moving in maybe five cycles per second.
Whereas if you're in beta or alpha, they're more in the 30, 40, 50 cycle per second.
This is why biowarfare people have experimented heavily and are experimenting heavily with generations of these frequencies aimed at biological entities in various ways and means.
They're investigating all kinds of what they call non-lethal weapons which transmit those frequencies and affect a person's ability to mentally function.
Well, you know, the one thing this particular Davis laboratory was finding, and they were talking about, well, you know, how is that even possible?
And what they found was that when you're talking about the regular brainwave cycles, the 1 to 50, you can't transmit data very far.
You know, it's like a 1 to 50, you can go about 200 feet and it's dead.
However, once you start stepping up the frequencies, okay, and they were talking about millions of cycles per second, you can then decrease the wattage and the frequency will then go much further.
So one of the experiments they did is they established radio communications in Baltimore, Maryland, and I believe they are in California.
So they told them they were going to switch from their 50-watt, they were going to switch their 50-watt transmitter to one-fourth of the wattage and then broadcast at 28 million cycles per second to see if they could see, receive the mini signal.
Oh, they're in Florida.
They're in Orange Park, Florida.
Okay?
So they previously attempted using the 1 to 50 to 500 cycles per second and they could only send the signal like 200 feet.
When they stepped it up to 28 million cycles per second, Baltimore said, yes, we receive your signal loud and clear using 1 fourth the power.
And then they tried it again using 1 tenth of the power, 1 tenth of a watt, and it was received when they went to 7 million cycles per second.
So what they were theorizing is that the telepathic, paranormal, precognitive types of things that the brain may very well be operating at,
those types of cycles are not perceived by today's, or are not looked at by today's brain measuring devices, but in fact the brain may very well be receiving and sending signals at this very high amount of cycles per second.
Anyway, right now we're talking about the brain, and I am also particularly interested in sensory deprivation.
I really am quite tempted to give it a try.
I would imagine that is exactly how yogis perfect what they do, because if you were deprived of all your senses and all input, you would have no choice but to turn inward.
And as you did, you would probably try to connect the brain and the body.
And you would begin to attempt to do things.
You would internalize everything and begin to do things with your brain, with all you had available to you.
And that would be whatever senses were left within the body itself.
And so I can see that you would mentally go to work on that.
I can see how that would work and why people who are able to do those things develop them in sensory deprivation.
I would like to give it a try.
Now, I think for some people it would be very dangerous, but if you went into it with a willing understanding of what you were attempting to do, it would probably be all right.
I certainly wouldn't recommend it for anybody.
Anyway, we're going to open up the phone lines.
If you have questions about some of the things we've been discussing with Neil Slade, it would be a good time to call because we're going to open her up here in a moment.
Cutting right to the chase here, Neil, do you think it possible that somebody could, in a group of people, for example, virtually conjure up a UFO?
Back to, you know, again, after being poked fun at by Randy's group, I said, okay, you know, I say you can see these things and make alien contact if you turn on your frontal.
I'm going to do it.
Stand in it?
I'm going to do it.
Okay?
So it took me eight weeks.
And the way I, you know, I did it on a couple of different levels.
I did it visually using visualization, which is a function of the frontal lobes.
Every day I said to myself, and I visualized with imagery seeing an object in the sky that was not a plane, that was not a balloon, that was not a bird.
I went through all kinds of different scenarios, and I'd be taking my dogs for a walk, and I would visualize an object.
The second thing I did, and I think this was pretty important, is I carried a camera around with me.
If I walked outside my front door, I made sure I had a camera in my pocket.
Either a video camera or a still camera.
And I had a video camera that I stuck under my car seat.
I was waiting, and, you know, I was kind of trying hard.
You know, I mean, I was looking up.
You know, most people, if they were to count up the amount of time they spend looking actually up into the sky, it probably wouldn't amount to one minute a week.
So, you know, it wasn't the most foremost thing in my mind, and I put the dogs in the car, and I was going to drive a couple miles down the road to the cemetery where I take them for a walk regularly.
And as I'm driving down Harrison Street, where, incidentally, a year ago, I had a dream of seeing a UFO on this very street that I was driving down.
Okay?
And it was about a year ago, but it was on this street.
I'm driving, and, you know, the past several weeks, you know, I'd seen these little reflections of things up in the sky, and I'd look, and I'd say, oh, it's just the sun reflecting off an airplane, or I'd see something, and, you know, I'd track it, and then it would kind of disappear.
And, you know, once in a while, I'd see it, but nothing really, you know.
But that day, I'm driving down the street, and I see this little silver flash fly in front of my car.
So I immediately poke head out the window, right?
And I did have some little binoculars, and I looked at them, and I couldn't spot it.
It just sort of disappeared.
So it sort of got my curiosity, you know, picked.
And so I drive down the street, and I don't see it anymore.
And then I get on this big, busy street called Colorado Boulevard, and I'm turning left onto 6th Avenue here.
So I'm waiting.
I'm stopped in traffic, of six lanes in traffic.
And I look out my window, and I see this bright star hanging in the sky at 3.30 in the afternoon.
And I say, wait, that doesn't make any sense.
There's no stars out at 3.30 in the afternoon.
Now, you know how bright this thing must have been to catch my attention.
So I got out my camera and I took about 10 pictures at three, at no, four megapixels.
And then I decided, well, you know what?
I'm going to run home now.
I was about 10 minutes away from home, get my big, powerful camera, and come back and take a picture of it.
So I ran home frantically, you know, like, oh, this thing, I hope it doesn't disappear by the time I get there.
Get back to the spot.
I knew exactly to the inch where I was standing, and the thing was gone.
No trace whatsoever.
So the first thing I do is I come home and you know and I'm looking around and there's some more people at the bus stop and I say, Do you see anything?
Am I missing something?
And they're all saying, no, there's nothing up there.
So I have a Star Chart computer, a Star Chart program on my computer.
So I turn that on and I get that portion of the sky just on the off chance there's some like planet or star.
Absolutely nothing in that quadrant of the sky except some like nebula that you couldn't see unless it was like a totally dark sky.
There was something about my intent to see a UFO that I believe and my own brain self-control that allowed that possibility that opened me up to that universe.
Do you think, Neil, that an event of that magnitude would tend to remove people from a deeper sort of meditative thought process and bring them to the surface so hard that they simply wouldn't get into that zone where they need to be to have the kind of things that we've been talking about
Because you're all consumed with fight or flight and with, oh my God, anthrax and oh my god, my family's in danger, I'm in danger, our country is at war.
And the amygdala is what, when it's clicked backwards, turns on fear.
And when it's clicked forwards, it turns off fear.
Now, a very interesting thing I came across when studying the biofeedback and Dr. Green and Swami Rama was that when people are unconscious of things that the body is doing, when the body, much of what the body does is on an unconscious level, and we don't have control over those things that we're unconscious of.
Most of us don't have control of our heart rate or our brain waves or the blood flow because we're just not conscious of those mechanisms.
But what biofeedback does is it amplifies the feedback and makes us conscious of those things we are presently.
When you become conscious of those deeper levels of mechanism, then you can exercise control.
Now, if you are unconscious of the mechanisms for fear in the brain, if you are unconscious of an amygdala and you are unconscious of the reptile brain, you don't have control over it.
However, when you suddenly become conscious of that mechanism and where that mechanism is, you then gain control over it.
That's why I believe we see such amazing responses from people who are just learning very basically what the amygdala does and where it's vocated.
All of a sudden, they have control over their fear.
If you're really thinking white powder maybe comes sailing out of the sky from some damn crop duster and everybody near you is going to drop dead, you're clicked backwards.
And unless you're the Swami or whoever, you're not going to be able to keep in control of that.
Your fight or flight is going to take over big time.
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Hi, Neil.
I was wondering the mechanism for this event that had happened in my lifetime.
We might be getting close to a break.
I don't know if I have time to go through it.
But I was in Milwaukee at the time going to school.
And we were studying interior design.
And as I was reading through this book, sitting on my bed, okay, in an apartment, there was a dresser on the left-hand side of me.
the door to my room was on the right hand side and there was a hallway that led to the door on the outside down this hallway behind me okay the mechanism I'm talking about was I'm focusing on this book and I'm getting so excited about reading something that had everything to do with the dream I had a reoccurring dream what I had when I was seven you know something having to do with a castle and you know interior design stuff that was exciting me about 16.
Okay, so I was focusing on my cigarettes and then there was a knock on the door and as I turned my head toward the doorway, the cigarettes flew across the room and hit the wall on the other side of the room.
I've had a watch that appeared where it shouldn't have appeared.
The one thing it reminds me of, since we're heavy on Swami Rama tonight, is he stated that when he was challenged, when someone stirred up his emotions, this is what gave him the psychic energy very often to do many of these feats.
And if he was blasé about something, then it was much harder for him to call these things up.
So I think there is something to the idea that emotional energy is a very potent force.
And this lady, you know, obviously doesn't have control of that particular expression of the emotional energy, but I see the connection there.
It happens when she's emotionally charged rather than when she's, you know, just kind of investigate ghosts a lot, and I talk to a lot of ghost investigators, and every single one of them will tell you that young teenage girls have more incidence of poltergeist activity and
a general paranormal activity surrounding them than any other demographic group in the world.
Young teenage girls, hormones erasing, emotional as hell, just every which way but loose, right, at a certain age.
Even boys can to some degree empathize with that period of time.
And apparently this energy produces paranormal events in the immediate area of these people.
It does seem to me more likely that females being of the emotional, more non-verbal, right-brained type of persuasion you should be looking into, Trust.
Basically, I do it just to clear thoughts in my head, basically, and it works for you.
Yes, it does.
You know, the brain is a physical organ, and it's going to respond to physical manipulation the same as any other part of the body.
Surgeons use electroprobes to discover what parts of the brain are active and what parts are damaged and so on and so forth.
And I would think the type of massage device that you're talking about would have an effect not only on the muscles external to the cranium, but probably would be causing, could cause some other kinds of results within the brain as well.
Well, you know, they have developed helmets that you wear that have magnetic currents flowing through them.
And there have been some very good evidence that this has a good result on all kinds of mental functions.
I don't have a lot of information on that, but I have seen some of that evidence.
And so magnetic current and probably all kinds of electronic current would have effects on the brain.
We don't understand it completely at this point, but it seems a very high likelihood that in the future we will be harnessing that kind of energy to since we're on the subject.
I would say that's probably the exception to the rule.
And it's also, you know, one of the reasons why it's not so widely used is that generally it's a temporary fix and it needs to be repeated until other things can be done if other things can be done.
I recently saw some information by a fellow who wrote about temporal seizures in the brain.
And this was describing a patient who had internal seizures, which are a very sudden release of electrical current within the brain generated by the brain itself.
But what happened after these seizures in the temporal lobe epilepsy is the patient has this type of revelation, the I see God, the community with the universe.
So a similar type of thing might be happening in the electroshock therapy patient where it releases or makes connections with the brain that actually create this feeling of calmness and feeling that everything is okay.
Getting over on the other side of the argument I made a little while ago, which is a place I don't really want to be, but nevertheless, I've got to consider it.
As you point out, scientists have been able to actually, they claim, simulate the near-death experience or the epiphany or the, I don't know what you want to call it, but they can stimulate the brain in such a way that people have this joyful, life-changing experience that many who have had near-death experiences come and talk about on this program.
Scientists have been able to duplicate that.
Now, that might suggest that it's all in our brains, that there is nothing external.
Trouble is there's a lot of evidence to indicate there is.
I'm just sort of making this argument that if scientists can duplicate this, then what's so special?
Well, it indicates that the feelings that we have certainly exist within the brain but it doesn't really say anything about what exists outside of the brain you know everything that we that's true but most people who have this epiphany attribute it uh something outside of their own brain they think that they have uh a seen god or
First, if you don't mind, if I can answer the last caller's question, you should try some gemstones or some quartz crystal.
And the reason why they work is because they electromagnetically induce a voltage into the body, which forces the body to tune itself to the frequency of the quartz.
uh the the reason I called was because I'm interested, Neil, in your opinion about the nature of reality.
Have you ever read any of the books by Carlos Castaneda by?
I'm kind of as to what you think about his concept that everything really is outside of us and that we create what we see, we create our version of reality.
It kind of fits in with your UFO experience, for instance, and maybe a few other things.
You know, when I looked up at the sky, I saw, and still believe, I saw a non-man-made object that was neither a celestial object nor a man-made object.
I saw something I could not explain.
On the other hand, the person next to me at the bus stop thought they were seeing a star.
Now, they will probably die thinking that they saw a star or satellite.
So in their brain, they have one universe that they're living in.
But in my brain, there's another universe that I am equally convinced that exists.
So which is the real reality?
Now, I think there is what reality is, a lot of it is the construct inside our own head.
But at the same time, two people walking up and petting a dog will both have agreement that there's this dog that exists outside of themselves.
And so there is also this external reality.
So, you know, it's a fluid mixture of both.
And I don't think you can necessarily pin it down as being, you know, as the universe being all inside our skull or all outside our skull.
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But that's exactly the argument, is that, and that was the construct of his book, his books, was that we're in agreement that this is a dog, we're in agreement that this is a sofa, this is this, and so that's what creates that in the first place, is our agreement that this is the way it is.
And when perhaps we change our agreement, then it changes itself also, and that might be the nature of magic itself.
The fact is that there was something in the sky.
We may not be in agreement as to what it was, but you created that, if you follow what I'm saying, there was something there.
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So when you listen to music, you're stimulating, you're communicating with the most advanced part of your brain.
Animals, as a rule, don't understand music because they don't have the big frontal lobes like humans do.