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Coast to Coast AM with Art Bell - Predictions for 2002 - Open Lines - Linda Howe - Lost City Near Cuba

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unidentified		Welcome to Art Bell Somewhere in Time.
unidentified		Tonight featuring Coast to Coast AM from December 28, 2001.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		From the high desert and the great American Southwest.
		I did you all.
		Good evening, good morning, good afternoon, wherever you may be across this great land of ours.
		I'm Art Bell, and this is Coast to Coast AM, Friday night's Saturday morning version.
		Now, we will continue in the next hour with predictions, as we will Monday.
		So relax, if yours is not in yet.
		This hour, a kind of a surprise visit from Linda Moulton Howe, who's going to be talking about two critically important stories with news for you.
		One, whatever it is under the water, almost half a mile underwater in Cuba.
		And the other item is really interesting as well, and that's the Lancet study on life after death.
		You remember my interview with Pam Reynolds, right?
		Well, Linda's got some information that just might bolster that whole concept.
		It's going to be an extremely interesting hour.
		Coming up in a few moments, Linda Moulton Howe.
unidentified		Linda Moulton Howe.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, the story that was broken nationally here on this program now continues as Linda Moltenhow, our science reporter, our environmental documentary winner, reporter on this program, gosh, for years and years now, broke on the show months and months ago regarding what seems to be off the coast of Cuba and about a half mile below the water, impossibly a half mile below the water.
		And then a further report on the Lancet article, the amazing, amazing Lancet article on the possibility of some sort of life after death, some sort of consciousness that appears separate from brain function.
		It's all very fascinating.
		And here with the beginning of it is Linda Bolton Howe from Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.
		Hi, Linda.
linda moulton howe ▲ ● ▼		Hi, Art.
		Well, you know, this past May, Reuters News Service first carried an international story about the first hints of a discovery of unusual structures at 2,200 feet below Cuba's western tip.
		And the ocean engineer who found those structures is Paulina Zielitsky, who is a partner with her husband, Paul Weinzweig, in a Canadian company called Advanced Digital Communications, or ADC, that has offices in both Victoria, British Columbia, and Havana, Cuba.
		Their specialty is deep ocean exploration.
		And Paulina told Reuters this past spring that she had high-resolution side-scan sonar images of, quote, a huge land plateau with clear images of what appears to be man-made, large-size architectural designs partly covered by sand.
		From above, the shapes resemble pyramids, roads, and buildings, unquote.
		And if you go to my website, earthfiles.com, right now, the top headline and also the top headline in Science has one of those actual side-scan sonar images right now of that exact description.
		And I talked with Paulina about it.
		As you look at it, it is without doubt to me, I've seen a lot of side scan now in the past year working on this story.
		This is the first time that I've had a chance to see one of her original Exploramar side scan.
		And you have to admit when you look at it that you're looking at a lot of 90-degree angles and what look like structures.
		So that is there.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That is your own assessment.
linda moulton howe ▲ ● ▼		Well, as you look at that image, and so does she, and so does this story as we unfold this further, that there are more things besides this side scan, but it's the first time in seeing it, you are looking at an image that sort of reinforces what she had originally said in the spring.
		Now, on December 21st, a few days ago, one of those sonar images was released by the Prinsa Latina press in Cuba.
		The article was entitled, Geology or Archaeology, Which Is It?
		Referring to the structures in the sonar images.
		This article described Paulina Zelitsky's efforts over the past year to get sonar and videotape images by a remotely operated vehicle known as an ROV.
		Prince Alutina also interviewed Dr. Gabina LaRosa.
		He's an archaeologist with the Cuban National Museum of Sciences who has been studying the ADC sonar and videotape images taken this July.
		And in this latest article, he suggests that the megalithic structures could be natural rock or natural rock used for construction by an intelligent civilization or artificial structures created by intelligence.
		But only one week before this article, another controversial story had appeared on December 14th in Prince Latina and on the internet, which announced that archaeologist Dr. Gabino La Rosa calls for prudence, this was the word used, about possible discovery of a submerged city in the western waters of Cuba.
		The article's implication was that this might not be much of a discovery of this now famous megalithic underwater site.
		And that set off a small firestorm of protest on that island, including scientists at the museum.
		Now, here is Paulina Zielitsky, a couple of days ago, talking to me about both the controversy of what Prince Elatina did and what the current status is now of her own research.
unidentified		This article was written by a person who never met or spoke to any of the people involved, to any of the scientists involved.
		So this person, I believe it's a woman, she called me later on after a big topology.
		This person didn't have real access to any of the information.
		She just reinterpreted it herself as she wanted.
linda moulton howe ▲ ● ▼		And that's why Dr. La Rosa got so upset.
unidentified		And Dr. La Rosa got upset and other people apparently got upset as well, you know, because they asked Prince Olatina to reconsider.
linda moulton howe ▲ ● ▼		Did Dr. Gambino La Rosa, has he seen the videotape that you have showing one of the stones that appear to have the carved ovals in them?
unidentified		Yes, he did.
unidentified		He studied videotapes.
linda moulton howe ▲ ● ▼		And what was his reaction?
unidentified		It appears to him that they're artificial because they're completely smooth, flattened and smooth and constructed in different shapes.
		And they're blocks over the blocks.
		Has nature done something like that?
		It could have been, but it's hard to explain how nature would work this way.
		Plus, all the inscriptions that he apparently sees, it's hard to read them because of the visibility is poor under the water.
		These depths is always poor.
		And we have a lot of currency.
		So it's hard to read them and we need additional investigations in order to take many more data.
linda moulton howe ▲ ● ▼		Right.
linda moulton howe ▲ ● ▼		And I was curious if he could see the cross ovals, the ovals of the cross that we had talked about.
unidentified		Yes, actually Cuban television now broadcasts them.
unidentified		They are showing and describing cross.
linda moulton howe ▲ ● ▼		Now do they have videotape from you to show?
unidentified		Plus phoner data.
		Videotape and phoner data, yes.
		It's a size canceler of high resolution.
		It's like video, but made acoustically.
linda moulton howe ▲ ● ▼		But have you then released some of that July 2001 videotape for broadcast?
unidentified		Academy of Sciences asked for few photographs, few pictures that they had to release.
unidentified		But of course I selected those pictures that present the evidence.
linda moulton howe ▲ ● ▼		In the Prince Latina, December 21st by Emmanuel Vasquez, there is an image.
linda moulton howe ▲ ● ▼		It says that this is from the original in the year 2000 underwater.
unidentified		Could you have?
		That's correct.
		That's one of the images.
		We have, of course, many of those images.
		And Museum of Natural Sciences published a number of those images.
		And Museum of Natural Sciences is alleging that it is impossible to explain by nature, naturally, how these structures could be aligned such ways.
linda moulton howe ▲ ● ▼		It definitely looks like a street between buildings, doesn't it?
unidentified		Yeah, yeah.
unidentified		Okay.
linda moulton howe ▲ ● ▼		And the one of you sitting at the computer, what is the image on the computer?
unidentified		Oh, that is the image of one of the pyramidal shapes.
linda moulton howe ▲ ● ▼		Was this taken in 2000 or 2001?
unidentified		It's taken in 2001 because this is video.
		Video was taken in 2001 and solar images were taken in 2000.
		Okay.
linda moulton howe ▲ ● ▼		So the pyramid is a video frame?
unidentified		Yes, the pyramid is video frame.
		But what is very important is to point out that we haven't made a definite conclusion because we don't have sufficient data.
		We have a number of hypotheses.
		And very strong hypothesis, one of the hypotheses that is very strong in our opinion is that these structures are natural but reshaped and accommodated by intelligent beings.
linda moulton howe ▲ ● ▼		Dr. La Rosa himself feels that he's looking at data that certainly suggests artificial structure.
unidentified		Yes, he does because granite is not natural to the area.
linda moulton howe ▲ ● ▼		And granite has definitely been confirmed?
unidentified		Well, it's of right.
		We couldn't take this sample because to take this sample you have to drill in the granite and it's very difficult.
		But we are building a robot that is walking on the bottom and this robot will have all stability required in order to drill for samples, in order to cut, in order to remove.
		It will be first in the world a robot that is built for deep water archaeology.
		All kinds of difficult, hard tasks for deep water archaeology.
		The robot is designed to work at the depth of 2,000 meters.
linda moulton howe ▲ ● ▼		This is exciting.
linda moulton howe ▲ ● ▼		And if I understood, you mean it will be mechanically able to sort of roll along the bottom where these structures are?
unidentified		Actually, it will walk as insect.
unidentified		It looks like insect, as a scorpion, because it has manipulator 10 meter long.
linda moulton howe ▲ ● ▼		And at the end, is there a camera as well as the ability to drill?
unidentified		Yes, at the end there is a cameras and lights and there are totally in total there are three cameras on this robot and many lights.
unidentified		And it has ability to drill, to cut, to remove, to excavate.
linda moulton howe ▲ ● ▼		And when will this robot be placed down at the site, do you think?
unidentified		This summer.
linda moulton howe ▲ ● ▼		And will National Geographic be involved at all?
unidentified		Well, they expressed their interest for many years now to partner with us in this project, but there are some governmental and political complications.
		You have to remember that we are in Cuban.
		We are working in Cuban territorial levels.
linda moulton howe ▲ ● ▼		So right now, you and your husband and your company, ABC, will be the sole controllers and distributors of the information?
unidentified		Yes, because we are a Canadian company who is working under license, under legal license in Cuba.
unidentified		And we are working jointly with numerous Cuban organizations.
linda moulton howe ▲ ● ▼		And finally, is ADC working with any other companies in any other countries to help finance all of this exploration?
unidentified		Nobody is helping us to finance.
		No institutions are helping us to finance.
		It's completely private initiative.
		It's very difficult.
		But we will welcome any private or institutional group to participate with us if they can contribute.
		The thing is we need them to contribute.
		We don't just want free passengers, you know.
		We have very hard time to get financing and to provide equipment and knowledge for our expedition.
		So those that want to participate with us would need to contribute as well.
linda moulton howe ▲ ● ▼		Now, for anybody listening who may be interested or know someone who might be in communicating with ADC about shares or partnership in this very interesting deep underwater research of the megalithic structures off the western tip of Cuba, Paulina Zelitsky and Paul Weinsweig have provided this address and fax number for communication.
		You can also read this at earthfiles.com, my top headline story that includes also a map and the photograph of Paulina sitting at her computer with the pyramidal object.
		And tomorrow, perhaps, Art, if all goes well, I'd hope for tonight, but I may have some other images that I will be posting with this story that I might be getting that the scientists at the museum in Cuba have been examining.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, this is so exciting.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's like a Mars lunar rover, what she's talking about, to get out of this city.
linda moulton howe ▲ ● ▼		That's exactly right.
		That's what went into my mind when I said this is exciting because the idea that they could be able to be rolling around among the structures that you can see in the side scan sonar image that I've got right now will be really something.
		And because they are trying to do this now themselves, because of all of the legal complexities that they have run into in trying to put together all of the, they tried originally exclusive deals with some companies and there's legal problems between Cuba and some of the work that they were trying in the United States.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You know, when I'm looking at these side scans, right, Trump, by God, it does look like a city.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Isn't that city?
unidentified		It looks like streets.
linda moulton howe ▲ ● ▼		It really is something.
linda moulton howe ▲ ● ▼		I know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Buildings, that is the way you would describe it.
unidentified		Yeah.
linda moulton howe ▲ ● ▼		And they can be reached.
		For people now, take your pen, your pencil, and write this down because this could be important for anybody out there who could seriously help.
		ADC 242 Villa Torera, T-A-R-A-R-A.
		The next line is Torera, repeated.
		The next line is Havana del Este, which is H-A-B-A-N-A-E-E-L-E-S-T-E.
		And then finally, Havana, Cuba.
		And their fax number is 537-971-690.
		And you have to go through operators to make those kinds of calls to Cuba.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I think that's the problem with this whole thing is that of all places for this to be, Cuba.
		Oh, boy.
		Oh, boy.
		You know, it could have been almost anywhere else, and we'd know so much more now.
		But because it is Cuba and because we are the U.S. There is this problem.
		This big problem.
linda moulton howe ▲ ● ▼		But they really, really want the science of this to be emphasized, and they are working with scientists, even some in U.S. universities privately.
linda moulton howe ▲ ● ▼		And I really think this has the potential to be a really big story if they can get this robot down there working.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, a monster.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That really is extremely exciting.
linda moulton howe ▲ ● ▼		After the break, we will go to another area that's equally exciting, but in a completely different element.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Sure is.
		Life after death and the story in Lancet.
		That's what we're going to talk about.
		Linda's got Another interview for you on that subject, and after interviewing Pam Reynolds, that subject is so dear and close to my heart that I'm pretty curious, very curious actually, what they've got to say.
		And by the way, I've got a little kind of follow-up to the whole Lance thing myself.
		A very interesting fact about the 18% I think who had the near-death experience, or you could call it the death experience, there's an odd fact about that 18% that I just learned today.
		I'm Art Bell.
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art bell ▲ ● ▼		I don't know if you've seen the side-scan sonar photos or renderings, but it sure does look like a city.
		It looks like buildings and streets.
		And it's the first time I've seen what was described.
		All right, we're going to move on now.
		Remember the fascinating interview with Pam Reynolds?
		Pam Reynolds, who died?
		No brain waves, no neural activity, no blood in her body, no life.
		She was dead.
		They did it to clip an aneurysm.
		It was a remarkable interview.
		Remarkable.
		She accounted for the entire hour she was out and gone.
		Well, The Lancet released an article just about the same time, and Linda Moulton Howe, coincidentally, truly it is coincidentally, happens to have an interview with somebody on that subject.
		It is fascinating, and she'll have that in a moment.
		Now, once again, with some pretty interesting stuff coming up, here it is from Kordoff Hill, Linda Holton.
		How Linda?
linda moulton howe ▲ ● ▼		Thanks, Art.
		Well, that December 15th article you were referencing in the Lancet Medical Journal was entitled, quote, Near-Death Experience in Survivors of Cardiac Arrest.
		The authors are Dutch cardiologists led by Dr. Pim Van LaMel in the Division of Cardiology at the hospital Rinstadt in Arnhem, the Netherlands.
		Dr. Van Lommel has been a cardiologist for 25 years.
		He and his colleagues began their article with this statement, quote, Some people report a near-death experience known as an NDE after a life-threatening crisis.
		We aim to establish the cause of this experience and assess factors that affected its frequency, depth, and content, unquote.
		For 12 years, Dr. Von Lommel and his team studied 344 patients who had cardiac arrest and were successfully resuscitated in 10 Dutch hospitals.
		Of those 344, 18 percent reported a near-death experience.
		The researchers concluded, quote, occurrence of the experience was not associated with duration of cardiac arrest or unconsciousness, medication, or fear of death before cardiac arrest, unquote.
		And further, in a surprisingly firm conclusion, Dr. Von Lommel wrote, quote, our results show that medical factors can not account for occurrence of NDEs.
		Although all patients had been clinically dead, most did not have NDE.
		Furthermore, seriousness of the crisis was not related to occurrence or depth of the experience.
		If purely physiological factors resulting from cerebral anoxia, which would be lack of blood and oxygen, caused NDE, most of our patients should have had this experience because they all suffered cardiac arrest.
		The patient's medication was also unrelated to the frequency of NDE.
		Now, one of the most extraordinary cases studied was a 43-year-old man who had cardiac arrest on the street, and here is Dr. Van Lommel to explain what happened.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		fell over on the street.
unidentified		When he was admitted in the hospital, they had been doing CPR for more than uh half an hour.
		He was deeply unconscious and cyanotic when he was admitted in the hospital.
		And he was in very bad shape.
		He had no blood pressure, no heartbeat, and so they were performing CPR.
		And after one and a half hour in the hospital, at last they had blood pressure and heartbeat.
		There was brain damage.
		So there was no spontaneous respiration, so they had to intubate him.
		And when the nurse tried to intubate him, he had to remove the dental prosthesis, put it on the crash car.
		And the patient had to be on artificial respiration for more than one week in the ICU.
		And then he came back to the cardiac ward, and the first time that the nurse entered his room for giving medication, the patient recognized the nurse and said, Oh, you were the one who was there when I was admitted to the hospital, and you took out my denture, for dental prosthesis, to intubate me.
		And he could describe exactly what doctors were there, how they looked like, what the rumors looked like.
		And the nurse was so upset because he'd never heard of an NDE before.
		So he rang us, and we explained to him, and then we asked him to write down everything what had happened.
linda moulton howe ▲ ● ▼		And what is doing the perceiving, since it's not an active brain-eye-ear system?
unidentified		Exactly.
		That means that when there is no activity in the brain, let's say a flat EEG, and people can still have a full consciousness, with cognition, with emotion, with memories from their youth, or for the possibility of perceiving, that it means that there must be something that can be received by your brain.
		So there is something out of your body that you can receive in your body by your brain.
linda moulton howe ▲ ● ▼		Do you think that that is indirect proof of a soul-spirit?
unidentified		No, I never use the word because everybody has his own ideas about it.
		So I never use the word mind or spirit or soul because I think it's very hard to know what somebody else means.
		So I was talking about consciousness and memories or self-identity.
linda moulton howe ▲ ● ▼		What you are saying is that the concept of soul and spirit almost becomes political because of different religious interpretations of them?
unidentified		Exactly.
unidentified		Everybody has his own idea about it and nobody knows what somebody else thinks about it.
linda moulton howe ▲ ● ▼		And yet, and yet, something is perceiving the details of a room, people, and those false teeth.
linda moulton howe ▲ ● ▼		What is doing the perceiving?
unidentified		So that it's your consciousness, with your identity, and with your memories.
		And you can give it a name, but I won't.
		You can call it mind or so, but I won't because somebody else thinks perhaps something different about it.
linda moulton howe ▲ ● ▼		Your bottom line from doing this research is that you have at least, in 18% of the cases of the more than 300 cardiac patients that you studied, 18% have some kind of recollection of something happening during a period of time in which they were clinically dead for a period.
unidentified		And what we didn't know was there always has been theories about it, that it just is a physiological reaction of anoxia of the brain so a lack of oxygen or that it's some chemical reaction of endomorphines or it is a psychological reaction to death or it is medication and that's what we did in this first prospective study to look if there could be any explanation of having an NDE.
		And when you look to the two groups of patients, the 18% who did report some form of memory and the 82% who didn't, there is no difference in medical, psychological, physiological, or pharmacological things.
		It's all the same.
linda moulton howe ▲ ● ▼		So in a way you were trying to control for the very arguments that have been made in the past that it was a chemical or some other kind of explanation.
		But then it seems that we are left with an even greater question.
		Why is it that of these 300 some patients that only 18% had a near-death experience?
unidentified		Exactly.
		I don't know.
		But the only thing we can know is that when it should be a physiological reaction, so due to a lack of oxygen to the brain, then when you have a cardiac arrest, you have no blood pressure, there's no oxygen going to the brain, you lose your consciousness.
		And your breathing stops, and your reflexes stops, and everything stops.
		And then you have an 80% of people in such situations who have full consciousness.
		So that's a mystery.
linda moulton howe ▲ ● ▼		Another interesting part of your study was the finding that after two years there seemed to be a transformation in the 18% who had the NDE memories, there was a transformation in their relationship to their life and other people and the world around them.
linda moulton howe ▲ ● ▼		And that by eight years, if I read your data correctly, the NDE actually had an even more increased impact of change, transformation of thought on people after eight years.
unidentified		And the main thing is that the life inside changes and the fear of death disappears.
linda moulton howe ▲ ● ▼		When you talk with that group, do you get any insights from them about why they themselves feel that some sort of philosophical, spiritual transformation continues to increase eight years after an NDE?
unidentified		Well, it's the process of that they, first of all, they cannot talk about it.
		They are neglected or laughed at by doctors and nurses and family.
		And what I write is that individuals, there's a society negative response to NDE, which leads individuals to deny or suppress their experience for fear of rejection of ridicule?
		And so they cannot talk about it.
		At last, then they trust somebody or find somebody who is open.
		Then they can talk about it.
		And then the integration starts of the changed inside of losing the fear of death and what is important in life.
		Especially those people who had a panoramic life review.
linda moulton howe ▲ ● ▼		And in those panoramic life reviews, what has impressed you about them?
unidentified		Well, that is that all thoughts and words and deeds have been kept somewhere.
		And that you again feel what happened when you did something or thought something.
		And that you feel the emotions of the other person who is involved.
		So you feel the emotions of somebody else.
		Or when you gave love or just neglected him as well.
		And you feel that.
		And that gives you insight in what you did.
		And what was the emotional effect on somebody else?
linda moulton howe ▲ ● ▼		Now, it is, I would think, in a civilization in which there have been many religions who have evolved over the last several thousand years about the moment of death and a transition of consciousness to God in heaven or Allah in heaven or whatever the word.
		Now that is the religious context for most of the people on the planet.
		Why would anyone then describing a near-death experience ever be treated with ridicule or disbelief?
unidentified		Because they're trying to explain for something.
		The experience there are no words for and they are talking about meeting deceased relatives, they're talking about celestial landscape, they're talking about being of light.
		And a lot of people don't want to hear it.
linda moulton howe ▲ ● ▼		They don't want to hear it?
unidentified		Because they say it's impossible.
		You have had some hallucination or it was the effect of medication or calm down, etc.
		So they cannot express what they want about your experience because they cannot talk about it.
		Also in Holland our churches were very conservative and the people who ever dared to talk about it were not welcome anymore in the church.
linda moulton howe ▲ ● ▼		But you can see why this is not only ironic but contradictory.
linda moulton howe ▲ ● ▼		If the church talks about praying and going to heaven upon death, why would there be any ridicule of people who described exactly such a process?
unidentified		Because for them it's not a matter of belief, but a matter of knowing.
linda moulton howe ▲ ● ▼		The NDE experiencer.
unidentified		Yes.
		They say death is, to our surprise, dead was not death.
		I was there still.
		So and that's a lot of people going to church say that you cannot say that.
		It's the Bible or something different.
linda moulton howe ▲ ● ▼		But isn't that why people are in church to survive death and go to heaven?
unidentified		I think perhaps to believe but not to know.
		But I know, but you know, if you ever talk to people with an NEE, and you always, whenever you talk to them, also I know Ken Oring as well, and when he talked to people, and we have it here, I'll talk to hundreds of NDEs, you always have the same problem that the people know by size, it is not proven that it's something possible else or beyond the body.
		So they neglect it, ignore it.
		I say it's not proven, but it is not what you can prove.
		As a medical doctor, I don't know.
		But what they say, exactly what you say.
		That's what they know.
		They always say, I don't believe in, let's say, life after death, but I know there is some continuity of me which survives my body.
linda moulton howe ▲ ● ▼		And why is that memory only in 18% of the patients that you studied?
unidentified		I don't know.
		I don't know.
		I can always say why.
		There are still a lot of people who don't have an experience, but it is, for me, it's even a wonder that it happens, and I cannot explain it.
		It's a miracle.
		I mean, it's a miracle that it happens because I cannot explain it.
linda moulton howe ▲ ● ▼		And Art, he tried to get funding for this.
linda moulton howe ▲ ● ▼		Over 12 years, Dr. Van Lommel and all of the people who worked on this extremely important research ended up having to do it all as a labor of love because they could not get any funding.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's unbelievable.
unidentified		You would think the churches would be funding the heck out of that.
linda moulton howe ▲ ● ▼		Yes, why is it, as he points out, that there could be anything about near-death experiences that would give any church any problem whatsoever, and yet...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Anybody out there have comments?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'd like an answer to that one myself.
unidentified		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Listen, one addition to all of this, Linda.
		I'm reading here, it's an article about the same report.
		In this one, it says, medical explanations cannot account for near-death experiences according to the results of the biggest prospective study to date of patients who were resuscitated after clinical death.
		However, patients who reported an NDE were more likely to die soon afterwards.
linda moulton howe ▲ ● ▼		Yes, this was one of the more remarkable and not understood aspects because it's a very Big complicated.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, they understand a little bit of it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		They think that perhaps it's because they're no longer afraid to die.
linda moulton howe ▲ ● ▼		Well, this is exactly.
		This was a part of our discussion.
		Dr. Von Lommel and I talked for an hour, and part of the discussion was about this: that within 30 days, the people who had the deepest or what they call the deepest core experience of an NDE were the ones who had the greatest increase in death within 30 days of having the experience.
		And when I asked him why, he said he thinks it's because those are people who could let go the easiest because they had the fear of dying.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, this is incredible.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		This is this whole thing, the interview with Pam Reynolds, what you're reporting on, all of it, I think, I think we're moving toward identification scientifically of something separate from brain function.
linda moulton howe ▲ ● ▼		Well, this story, when you read the whole Lancet article, which I have, and when you read that sentence, our results show that medical factors can not account for occurrence of NDE.
		That is a surprisingly firm statement in a journal, a medical journal, The Lancet.
		Now, if you can't come up with medical factors, you are into the area of what has been called transcendence.
		And transcendence is that description that people have of being out of their body, looking down, seeing bodies, being able to describe tubes, describe corners, describe where that man watched his false teeth be put.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I don't want to use the word soul or spirit.
unidentified		That's right.
linda moulton howe ▲ ● ▼		They use transcendence.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		We all know what they're talking about.
		Okay, Linda, wonderful report.
		Information quickly.
linda moulton howe ▲ ● ▼		Yes, I welcome questions and comments to me at my email, earthfiles at earthfiles.com.
		And also my website, www.earthfiles.com, has the Cuba story.
		We'll have this report on your death experiences.
		And there's a whole lot more there in science, medicine, the environment, and real X-Files.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Wonderful pair of reports.
		Thank you so much for it.
linda moulton howe ▲ ● ▼		Thank you, Arthur.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And good night.
		All right, that's Linda Moulton Howe.
		Isn't that incredible?
		The fellow remembered the lady who removed his false teeth and where she put them and all the rest of it.
		This while he is dead as a doornail, and they were working on him for an hour and a half trying to get any sort of signs of life, an hour and a half.
		This was at room temperature.
		These are astounding stories.
		And, you know, the most interesting question right now, aside from the big one, to me, is how come the churches, plural, are disinterested in all of this?
		They should be jumping on it.
unidentified		You're listening to Arc Bell somewhere in time on Premier Radio Networks.
		Tonight, an encore presentation of Coast to Coast AM from December 28, 2001.
		Coast to Coast AM from December
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		28, 2001.
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		Preview Radio Networks presents Art Bell Somewhere in Time.
		Tonight's program originally aired December 28, 2001.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Ah, good morning, everybody.
		Well, those were two amazing reports from Linda Molten Howe.
		The images that you're looking for at are on her website at earthfiles.com.
		And I don't know whether we've got a link up, but it's earthfiles.com, and they are amazing.
		They look like cities.
		I understand it's a side-scan sonar, but still, look at those photos.
		Well, those images.
		Amazing, amazing, amazing.
		And the writing and the video and all the rest of it.
		And now they're going to send a robot down.
		It's just getting pretty good.
		And then you listen to the second interview with the doctor.
		You know, why don't we do that kind of research here anymore?
		Anybody out there wonder about that?
		How come we're not doing that kind of research here?
		We have Pam Reynolds' story, but nobody's digging into it.
		I mean, it's only the biggest question in all of life.
		In all of life.
		It's the biggest question.
		I mean, we're all here for a relatively very short time indeed.
		And so, you know, is there anything afterwards?
		Or the big blackness?
		Well, there's mounting serious scientific evidence that there is something there.
		Even I am impressed.
		Not easy to impress in this arena.
		Believe me, I have doubts.
		I've had doubts all my life.
		I still have a few, but it's closing in on me and it must be on you too how can you listen to all of this without realizing there is something separate from brain function some consciousness awareness understanding emotion all the things that we call consciousness and we define as ourselves that there is something separate from our brain function now you call it what you want I
		I don't blame the doctor for not wanting to say soul or spirit.
		You know, but that was a damn good report.
		And glad Linda was able to get it on the air.
		We've all, I think a lot of you have read about it, but hearing, you know, the doctor who did this was pretty cool.
		So, two big stories a-brewin', and in the middle of all this, we are doing predictions for next year.
		Now, I will recite to you some of the rest.
		I have more predictions that were made, and I will read some of them, and the bonk factor in the ones coming up, I sense psychically, is going to be rather high.
		Actually, I know it is, because I've read them.
		So, in a few moments, we'll give you some of those, and then we'll begin taking predictions and comments, by the way, if you wish, on the Cuban city, a half mile, I shouldn't call it a Cuban city, on the city off the coast of Cuba, a half mile underwater, and or Linda's incredible report from the article in Lancet on whatever is separate from our brains.
		All of that coming up.
		Well, just a couple of items before we go to the phones.
		Very quickly, China would appear to be moving troops now to try and defuse the crisis between India and Pakistan.
		They're actually moving troops along the Sino-Indian border.
		Now, that's an interesting move.
		What is China about to do?
		What would China, you know, if there began a conflict, what would China do?
		Would they go in there and start shooting at both sides?
		What would they do with their troops?
		Is getting China involved in this, even in some, you know, supposedly peacemaking way, is it really a good idea for China to be sending troops to their border?
		Doesn't it further inflame the whole thing?
		So that puts free nuclear powers in some sort of contention over their really strange times.
		And no wonder we're getting the predictions we are, huh?
		I thought really hard about that today anyway China trying to intercede but they're doing it with military troops boy President Bush said Friday the U.S. military will not quit the search for Osama bin Laden I understand there's quite a bit of political pressure from the new Afghan government that the U.S. get its butt out of country stop the bombing and we're saying no
		we're going to keep up we're going to keep looking for a song and we're going to get him and they're saying well yeah but you've got most of the al-qaeda kind of troops you've broken the back of al-qaeda you know really why don't you stop the bombing and we're saying well no we're really not going to do that until we get Osama and I'm sure we're not going to stop the bombing and stop the cave to cave searches and all the rest of it until we get us his butt looks like the president is committed to do that and I hope he stays committed to do that
		doesn't give in to any political pressure the kidnapped 16 month old girl back with mom now that's almost a miracle buffalo is under oh my god buffalo nearly seven feet of snow now in buffalo and more on the way did you hear me seven feet of snow my god buffalo does get a lot of snow but this is over the top
		for buffalo for sure now if you'll go to my website one of my listeners we have a lot of uh listeners in buffalo new york in fact that's probably about all they have to do right now please listen to this program and others like it right i imagine that's all they can do if you'll go to what's new and click on snow in
		Buffalo, Ken Spruch, S-P-R-U-C-H, sent us a couple of photographs that he just took there in Buffalo.
		I would presume of one of a stop sign and the other of his house and his car.
		His car looks like it's in a snow tunnel.
		So that's what's going on in Buffalo, right?
		The seven feet of snow.
		Man, that's a lot of snow.
		I remember, I'm sure you do when you were a kid if you lived in snow country, and I did.
		18 inches, even 30 inches of snow was awesome.
		Absolutely awesome.
		I mean, that was a major big storm.
	Try and picture in your mind seven feet of snow.
	That's way over the top.
	Take a look at the photographs and then imagine seven feet of snow.
	And I guess the forecast is not that great.
	So the governor has ordered troops there to assist very weary plow crews.
	I don't know how they're even beginning to plow there.
	These are amazing photographs and what they're going, it'd be fun to talk to somebody from Buffalo, see if you can get through about how it's going.
	Man, that's a lot of snow.
	I have never experienced that much snow and I've lived in snow country all over.
	In Alaska, in the northeast part of the country, but seven feet.
	Woo hoo hoo hoo.
	First time caller line, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hello.
		hello hello yes sir um i'm going to talk about a near-death experience oh you had one uh Yes.
		And what happened was I was in the hospital, a young man, for appendicitis, and stamped all over my chart and read was allergic to penicillin.
		And a foreign intern came in.
		He was supposed to go to the room across the hall, came into my room and gave me a million units of penicillin.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, man, away you went.
unidentified		And away I went.
		And I went through the tunnel.
		You know, the old story of going through the tunnel through the light.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Did you, just for the record, sir, did you experience clinical death?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You know, the heart stops, breathing stops.
unidentified		Oh, oh.
		Okay.
		And the interesting thing was about it, I knew I was dead.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You knew it?
unidentified		I knew it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How?
unidentified		You know, normally when you leave, these may be crazy explanations, but you know, when you normally live on a trip, you wonder if, did you turn off the electricity, did you do this, did you do that?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
unidentified		You worry about your relatives, about every little conceivable thing?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		No worries.
unidentified		I was assured by this inner voice that everything was going to be all right, that they were going to be taken care of, that I didn't have to worry about them.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Did you see relatives?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Did you see beings of light?
unidentified		But the interesting thing about the light was that normally if you were to shine a bright light on you, it reflects.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		This light didn't reflect.
		It went through you.
		And the light was at first beams of pure white and then blue and then every color of the rainbow.
		And you felt love like you've never known love before.
		You were welcomed, like you were welcomed home into a family.
		And everything on the other side was alive and everything on this side was dead.
		Seemed dead to you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, in other words, as you look around you now, you have what you consider life.
		You have colors, bursts of colors and images and sounds and input and everything that makes this world look so colorful and beautiful.
		But I can understand what you're saying on the other side.
		This looks like it's all grayed out, you know, or blacked out like death.
		And that appears to be the new reality with all the colors and the true meaning.
unidentified		And the hardest thing is to, when you have a true spiritual experience, if that's what you want to call it, if you live to be a thousand, you'll never forget it, because you can go back to that time and re-experience it.
		But the interesting thing also, though, it's hard to explain spiritual things in normal words.
		And I'll try to explain if you could take a rose and put it into a tea kettle, and then the steam coming out of that tea kettle now could reform that rose.
		You've seen steam come out of a tea kettle, how it vibrates, or anything in front of it.
		Now that's how flowers looked on the other side.
		I mean, literally, everything was vibrating with life.
		There was a vibration of life.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How do you feel about death now?
unidentified		And no fear of it.
		No fear of it.
		I did before.
		Not exactly fear, but wondering.
		We all wonder what's going to happen on the other side.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		We sure do.
unidentified		But I also didn't recognize.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, you saw people you didn't recognize?
unidentified		I didn't know who they were.
		And when I came back, I could still see my little mother sitting, who's now in heaven now, but sitting in a chair.
		And then they brought me home after a certain period of time.
		And she showed me pictures of my great-great-grandfather, which I had never physically met or never saw a picture of him before.
		But I did on the other side.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Wow.
		Again.
		Did you ever then go and try and find pictures of him to compare with?
unidentified		I had pictures of him.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, I understand.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But back here in life, sir, did you ever then go and try and retrieve a photograph?
unidentified		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Were you able to?
unidentified		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Was it the same?
unidentified		Absolutely the same person.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I don't know what to say to you.
unidentified		But you know, the greatest thing was, like I say, love.
		Love that you would never long physically or sexually or any other form of love on this side of the plane.
		There, you are literally welcomed home.
		It's a party thrown for you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I appreciate your story.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I thank you.
unidentified		Can I tell you one other story?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You may, yes.
unidentified		This is an interesting thing.
		And I hope, and I'm not saying these stories because they happen to me.
		God gives these to everybody.
		I honestly believe.
		But one time when I was, again, was a teenager, we went out on this vacation out in Big Lake Chatek.
		And the way the place was arranged, you had a little lake where you went fishing, and then you had a main cottage.
		You had all these little cottages around it.
		And every night I would go out and walk at night through these big palm trees, I mean, pine trees, excuse me.
		And the owners had a dog named Spot, a coach dog, a very original name for a coach dog.
		And this dog would follow me and would sit, you know, when I sat down and meditated and followed me around.
		And this went on for the whole two weeks we were there.
		And on the very last night, same routine, and I got up to the main cottage and I held the door open.
		And I hear this voice, what in the heck are you holding that door open for?
		You're letting the flies in.
		And I said for Spot.
		And they said, Spot, Spot was killed by a truck this morning.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, well, you've had, thank you very much, lots and lots of inexplicable experiences.
		You know, the one thing that bugs me is the majority of people don't have NDEs.
		Of 344, only 18% in that study.
		So that means the majority of people don't.
		So where do they go?
		You know, if these other people are going to the light and the tunnel and the relatives and even people you don't know, like that man just said, then where is the majority going?
		That's a very troublesome question.
unidentified		Where are they going?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You know, while they're dead.
		Ever wonder if there might be an option when you die?
		In other words, some people get blackness, nothingness, and others get some sort of continuation of consciousness.
		Maybe that's the prize.
		You know?
		You've done well.
		You have continuation of consciousness.
		Maybe if you don't get a passing grade, 70, whatever, you get the blackness.
		And that would be the majority.
		Now that's something to think about.
		Wildcard line, you're on the air.
		Hello.
unidentified		Mr. Bell?
		Yes.
		Okay.
		First off, this is about next year.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, a prediction?
unidentified		Yes, a prediction.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It will be honored to be number 50, whatever it is.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
unidentified		Okay.
		This is going to sound way out there.
		This is a nuclear war or anything like that.
		This is worse.
		This is something from the movies, practically.
		Okay.
		The dead will return to life.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You mean that getting out of graves?
unidentified		Yes, devouring the living.
		I'm not the only one that believes this.
		I'm not on the research end.
		I'm more on the preparation end.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Excuse me.
		Did I hear you say they would devour the living?
		Like eat the living?
		Yes.
		That's definitely.
		You know, that's neither the living, dead.
unidentified		You're dead.
		That's exactly what we're talking about here.
		There's prophecies going back.
		I'm not on the research end, but a lot of the prophecies as text, Egyptians, it all correlates.
		Some people even believe that some of those films were put out there for almost like a warning by the Creator.
		Huh.
		I know it sounds out there.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It sounds out there.
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And you're predicting this will happen as soon as any minute now.
unidentified		Actually, we're thinking more of mid to late next year.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's pretty soon.
		That's nothing to look forward to.
		I saw a night of the living dead, and you know, the living were bashing the dead in with shovels and picks, and blasting them to smithereens with shotguns.
		Is it going to come down to that?
unidentified		We don't know if they can be stopped or what, because obviously nothing like this has happened before.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's hard to kill the dead.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's really hard.
unidentified		Well, this is not their souls.
		This isn't grandma and grandpa coming back to get you.
		This is just basically their shell, their body, I guess.
		As far as we can tell, that is.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, either way, it sounds really bad to me.
unidentified		Bad.
unidentified		Thank you for having me on.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you're very welcome.
		Thanks for adding to the list of cheer.
		My list, oh, cheer.
		Oh, that'd be some night, wouldn't it?
		I mean, here we all are.
		This is one of the reasons I'm going to be cremated.
		I have no intent whatsoever of scratching my way out of the dirt, pushing my way past the worms with my bony flesh, a torn body, whatever's left of it, to get up and plague the living.
		That really is.
		He's right about one thing.
		That's right out of the movies.
		And the movie was The Living Dead, and then several sequels after it.
		Night of the Living Dead, I believe, is actually the name of the movie.
		It was horrible.
unidentified		Horrible.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Burn me, baby.
		Burn me.
		That's what I say.
		Predicting all night long and anything else you want to do.
		Friday night, Saturday morning.
		That's what they're for.
unidentified		You're listening to Art Bell Somewhere in Time.
		Tonight featuring a replay of Coast to Coast AM from December 28, 2001.
		So I came in here, sweet lady.
		And she's been your mistress co-call.
		Crystal ball on the cable.
		Showing the future to the past Same cat with them evil eyes And I knew it was a spousy cat She's just a devil woman With evil on her mind Beware the devil woman She's gonna get you She's just a devil woman With evil on her mind Beware the devil woman She's gonna get you from behind
		Get me the ring on your finger And with the clap of a hand He has landed as an only son His mother and father said What a lovely boy We'll teach him what we learned Oh
		yes, just what we learned We'll dress him up warmly And we'll send him to school It'll teach him how to fight for being Nobody through Oh, oh, oh Oh, what a lonely boy
		Oh, what a lonely boy Oh, what a lonely boy In the summer of 53 His mother brought in a sister And she told him We must attend to her need She's so much younger than you
		Well, he ran around the hall And he cried Oh, oh, oh You're listening to Art Bell somewhere in time on Premiere Radio Networks.
		Tonight, an oncore presentation of Coast to Coast AM from December 28th, 2001.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Life is so cool, isn't it?
		Good morning, everybody.
		I'm Art Bell.
		Well, the list-oh, cheer continues.
		The last entry was the dead return to life and begin beating the crap out of this, like in the movie.
		And I've heard people say this and take things from the Bible to back it up with and all the rest of it.
		All I can say is it would be one lousy, miserable day.
		There's no doubt about it.
		Having to battle people clawing their way up out of the earth and all the rest of that sort of thing.
		Well, The list of predictions from last year, very quickly.
		This is going to make you feel better now because we're about to get a bunch of bonks.
		And frankly, they were doing pretty well.
		You all were doing pretty well up through number 27.
		Your hit rate was uncomfortably good.
		Really good.
		So in view of some of the recent predictions, I hope your average falls, and this should help.
		Number 28, Art reveals he time traveled.
		Bonk.
		I have not revealed that I have time traveled.
		And if I had time traveled, do you think I would reveal it?
		For example, might I go back to a time when my back was better?
		Maybe I've done that.
		But have I revealed it?
		No.
		Number 29, end to boy band craze.
		Now, I don't know how to score this one.
		I don't think it's over, so I'm going to give it a bonk.
		I'm going to be tough on it.
		It may have changed a little, but it's not over.
		Number 30 is that there will be a race war, thankfully.
		Another bonk.
		Number 31, the U.S. takes over Western Canada.
		Well, we'll probably get around to it.
		We didn't do it yet, Bonk.
		Cattle mutilations and mad cow disease are in some way connected.
		I can't say there's been any evidence of that, Bonk.
		Hurricane in Florida.
		A massive hurricane in Florida.
		Well, there was some trouble in Florida, but massive, really horrible.
		I'm giving it a bonk.
		Didn't happen.
		Three more crop circles appear in Montana.
		This one I'm not sure about.
		I'm going to give it a qualified ding.
		I believe they did.
		Mirror hits off Western Australia.
		Now, this one I'm going to give a ding to.
		No, no, I'm not.
		And then hits Barrier Reef.
		I forgot that part.
		It did not hit the Barrier Reef near as we know.
		Bonk.
		Let's see.
		George W. Bush not to be allowed to enter Canada.
		Ha ha ha ha.
		Bonk.
		Number 37.
		Chemtrail revelation this year.
		I'm going to have to bonk that because I'm in the tough mode.
		There's been more information on chemtrails, and they're as controversial as ever.
		But we have no admission of culpability for whatever those things are up there.
		So that was a pretty good bonk record there.
		They managed one ding out of a whole bunch, so they didn't do as well.
		And I'm glad, because the more the possibility of the Night of the Living Dead, the more disinterested I get in ever getting to such a day.
	so I hope you all are dead wrong about that.
	All right, let's go play in the shadows again, shall we?
	Who knows what awaits?
	We are taking official predictions as we go tonight.
	They will be officially after New Year's Eve, and I'm going to be here New Year's Eve.
	Traditionally, I am, and so shall be again this year.
	And we'll take the final predictions, and then they are sealed away for another year to embarrass you or make you heroic a year later.
	Here we go.
	First time calling a line, you are on the air.
unidentified		Is this Art Baby?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It is Art Baby, yes.
unidentified		I'd like to change the mood right now.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Really?
unidentified		Yeah, I want you to say cheese.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You don't have far to go to do that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Cheese?
unidentified		Because I have a cheerful, very cheerful prediction.
unidentified		Good.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, let's hear it.
unidentified		Okay, Yasha Arafat will be assassinated.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yasir Arafat is going to take one between the eyes, huh?
unidentified		Right.
linda moulton howe ▲ ● ▼		Eat your heart out.
unidentified		I'm calling from Waikiki.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, are you really?
unidentified		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well.
linda moulton howe ▲ ● ▼		Nice and warm here.
unidentified		It's just lovely.
unidentified		Anyway, Art, I really enjoy listening to you, even though sometimes I think you're a nut.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, there's no question about it.
		All these ghosts and how many people are going to think that you are a bloodthirsty monster for predicting such a thing?
		Which, frankly, in the way you presented it, sounded as much like a wish as a prediction.
linda moulton howe ▲ ● ▼		You know something?
linda moulton howe ▲ ● ▼		Personally, I don't give a damn.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I sense that, ma'am.
		All right, all right.
		Thank you very much.
unidentified		All righty.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And just go bask in the sun or something.
		Waikiki.
		We've got to get back to the islands.
		It's been so many years, and I would really like to go back.
		I'd like to go back to Maui.
		I lived there for a while.
		Maui is astounding.
		Unless it has changed now, and there's fast food joints all the way down these desolate areas of Maui that they're not desolate.
		Desolate is the wrong word.
		Tropical paradise roads.
		Oh, I had some good times on Maui.
		Wildcard line, you're on the air.
		Hello.
unidentified		Hi, Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi.
unidentified		Hi, Linda Moulton Howe's interview on NDEs tonight was exceptionally interesting.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, it was.
unidentified		And, you know, I noticed that she was kind of befuddled as to how many religious people could not allow for...
		Well, I can tell you why.
		There's a lot of groups.
		You know, there are Jehovah's Witnesses and the Seventh-day Adventists among them who believe that, you know, according to that one scripture they point to, that the dead know nothing.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, the dead are dead until the day comes when we're all right.
		So I understand that.
		But listen, it doesn't answer the question.
		The question then would be, okay, what about all the Catholics and the Protestants?
		After all, they've got more money than some governments have, for God's sakes.
		Why wouldn't they be interested enough?
		Because it would bolster their case and fill the pews worldwide.
unidentified		You would think so.
		And I always wondered what would be resurrected in the future.
		I mean, if you're that gone in some future resurrection, what are they resurrecting?
		Well, anyway, as in a prediction, I say that something is going to happen in Texas.
		I've been having this for about a month, and it's probably going to be very explosive fire, oil, that kind of thing.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oil fire in Texas?
unidentified		Yeah, big explosion.
unidentified		And I would say in about a month or two months, so write that down.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		While I'm doing that, why out of curiosity do you Yeah.
unidentified		Probably about a month ago, it was hard to explain.
		It's sort of like seeing a kind of spiraling vortex on that part of the map.
		And the perception of that is very difficult to describe, but that's what I was getting for about a month.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's really interesting.
		A lot of psychics say that that's how they discern where these things are going to occur, you know, by looking at a map or running their hand over a map or whatever.
		It's very interesting.
unidentified		Well, this is purely perceptual.
unidentified		It wasn't actually, you know, focalizing a map.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Anyway, all right.
unidentified		When are you going to have Nancy on?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I don't know.
		I had a message from her manager that she'd liked to be on, and so we'll obviously send one back, say, we'd love to have you.
		That'd be great.
		You know, it's like nothing ever happens between the Christmas and the New Year.
		And New Year is when everything, the world comes to life again.
		Have you ever noticed?
unidentified		Yeah, sure, sure.
unidentified		And before I go here, I've got to say that, you know, when I was about nine or ten and some Velvet Morning, I was just sure that I was going to marry Nancy, so I hope to talk to her when she gets on.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, well, all right, maybe.
		That is an interesting song, and there are many interpretations of it, and some of them are rather controversial, some Velvet Morning.
		It was made in the 60s.
		Lee Hazelwood is kind of an interesting guy.
		And what it's all about is indeed, I think, very controversial.
		And one of the questions we'll ask Nancy Sinatra should we get her on.
		And by the way, Frank Jr., they wrote and said, oh, Frank Jr. is a big fan of the show as well.
		So you never know.
		Maybe he would even be willing to come on.
		That'll be fun.
		It'll be interesting and very, very controversial.
		It was the 60s, you know.
		And, well, there are certain questions that I have, but I would hold them for the interview.
		Easter the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Hello.
unidentified		Hi, Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi.
unidentified		I was going to predict that I was hoping that maybe there'd be a lot of Art Bell clones out there, but I don't think Ramona would let us.
unidentified		There's just not enough for you to go around.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I do not wish to be cloned.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You know, I've actually thought it over.
unidentified		Oh.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, I wouldn't want to be cloned.
unidentified		That's not fair to the rest of us out here.
unidentified		No, I was going to tell you, I want to predict that I think Ed Daines, if he would take and remote view feelings, human emotion, in the way of love, instead of looking at a soul as light or energy.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Now, wait a minute, this is not sounding like a prediction.
unidentified		I think it would be if he would remote view the feelings.
unidentified		Well, okay, I'll go so far to say that I predict that Ed Dames and his sciatec crew will remote view love as a feeling, and he'll break through the veil where he gets, where he says like angels won't let him pass.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I'll tell you what I'm willing to do for you.
		I will ask Ed Dames specifically to remote view love, and let's see what he gets.
		Let's not prejudice it by talking about it any further.
		Let's find out what he gets.
unidentified		Yeah.
		All right?
		Yeah, because I think that's what we are.
		We're God's emotion.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Very good.
		All right.
		Well, then maybe when Ed tackles the concept of love, some sudden veil will drop and he will come back with some all-encompassing understanding and tell us all kinds of things.
		Sure, I'll ask him.
		You bet.
		Bust of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hi, Art.
		Hello.
		Let's start with a prediction that you bonked.
		Number two, nuclear explosion at the Arctic Circle?
		Let's see.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Number two, explosion at Arctic Circle, yes, sir.
unidentified		There are two great hypernovas at plus 63 declination.
unidentified		One of them is the great star of Revelations 9.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		There was no nuclear detonation at the Arctic Circle that I'm aware of.
unidentified		Well, if you project that line outward into space, you hit two great stars.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, they didn't say projected out into space.
unidentified		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, now, come on now.
		Stick with me here.
		They didn't say that.
		They said at the Arctic Circle, not on stars in a line with.
		That's a bonk.
unidentified		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
unidentified		Let's go with my prediction.
unidentified		Which is beginning April 20th, 300 million dead from a Magog attack.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		April 20th?
unidentified		April 20th.
unidentified		Beginning then.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		300 million dead was that?
unidentified		300 million dead from a Magog attack.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
unidentified		A Magog is a silicon-based life form.
unidentified		It's a little parasite that lives in all of us.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And how will it kill us?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It'll eat us probably from the inside out, huh?
unidentified		When great stars explode, neutrinos come.
unidentified		And that's the energy source for this silicon-based life form.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So they go berserk and begin eating us alive, right?
unidentified		Yeah, the gray goo problem.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Grey goo problem.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		They're eating us alive.
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, okay.
		Thank you very much.
		Well, that's right on up there with the dead rising and pounding the crap out of us.
		These things come alive Within us and begin eating us up.
		Well, you guys are just really, really full of cheer for this next year's prediction.
		If it's a boring year, you're really going down in flames.
		Now, I'll admit, it doesn't look like it's going to be, but I mean, some of these are dire, they're dire beyond all belief.
		You ever feel a little stirring in your stomach?
		That would be the creature he's talking about now.
		It doesn't have enough energy right now to begin eating.
		Can't do it.
		It doesn't have enough energy.
		But you heard what he said about neutrinos, and it's feeding right now.
		So the next time you feel that little movement in your stomach, it's eating neutrinos.
		Soon you.
		Wildcard line, you're on the air.
		Hello.
unidentified		Hi, Art.
		Hello.
		My best wishes to you for the season and for a good year.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, thank you.
unidentified		Yeah, I guess I have a prediction.
unidentified		Good.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It will be number 55 officially.
unidentified		That's a good number.
		Yeah, it is.
		I predict that the administration, the president and the vice president, will get caught up in a scandal involving Enron and other energy issues that evolved from that closed-door meeting that occurred way early in the beginnings of the administration.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, administration caught in scandal.
unidentified		Energy scandal.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Energy.
		Okay, I'll put that in.
		Thank you.
unidentified		You bet.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It is duly recorded.
unidentified		Thank you very much, Arthur.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you and take care.
		I wonder how many of these...
		Try your best not to call and make a prediction which is really a political statement, a political wish, or sort of a wish for something to happen.
unidentified		Like to Mr. Arafat.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You know, try and truly go to your psychic setter and make these predictions based on something other than some tertiary, small surface influence like politics or somebody you hate or something like that.
		Try and make your prediction based on some sort of psychic insight.
		Otherwise, it's totally contaminated and probably you're only calling up to be heard.
		West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Hello.
unidentified		Hello, Art.
unidentified		This is Mark in Newport, Oregon.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, Mark.
unidentified		This might light me up a little bit.
unidentified		I predict that William Shatner will get the confidence to go do something without his toupee.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're sure he has a toupee?
unidentified		I would say so, because different movies and terrorist changes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It could be.
		I could stand William Shatner totally bald.
		Why not?
		He'd be still cool.
		Right?
unidentified		Yep.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, thank you.
		I don't know if he has one or not.
		Toupe, huh?
		Maybe.
		Either way, I think if I was William Shatner and I was going bald, all this hypothetical, I would probably shave the rest of it off.
		And I think that would probably be pretty cool.
		Some people appear very well with no hair at all, bald.
		You know, it gives them a very special kind of character.
		So you might go for that.
		West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Hello.
unidentified		Hi, Art.
unidentified		How you doing?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, sir.
unidentified		I got a prediction for you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		A prediction.
unidentified		I believe that somewhere in northern Canada, a grizzly bear is going to wind up killing a Bigfoot.
		And the Game and Fish Department up there, in whatever providence it's going to be, is going to find this out.
		And they're going to take the Bigfoot, capture it, the dead Bigfoot, and they're going to do some experiments on it.
		And they're going to come clean with the rest of the world and let us know that there is a such thing as a Sasquatch or a Bigfoot.
		The rest of the world will know that there is such a species.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But they're going to somehow get it alive after a bear either almo, what, almost kills it?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Or it kills it completely?
unidentified		I think the grizzly bear will kill it.
		I think the grizzly bear will kill it dead.
		But once it has been captured, then they'll have to come clean.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, all they'd have is a body, right?
unidentified		Yeah, they would have the body of the Bigfoot.
unidentified		But the fight between the grizzly bear and the Bigfoot will cause so much noise and so much commotion that people from as much as a mile away will hear the commotion and they'll know there's some kind of major battle going on.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Huh.
		That's really something.
		This has come to you as some sort of vision, I take it?
unidentified		Well, it was actually more of a dream, not really a vision.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You want to hear my Bigfoot?
unidentified		Yeah, sure.
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's said to be the real McCoy by a lot of people.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What do you think?
unidentified		Possibly, very possibly.
		I'll tell you what, that's like nothing I've ever heard before.
		I know that much.
		Hey, Art, I was kind of wondering, how long have you been on the air?
		I've been listening to you for about five years now.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Pretty much all my adult life is a quick answer to your question, okay?
unidentified		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The hour is over, so I must go.
		I'm Art Bell.
		This is Coast to Coast AM.
unidentified		You're listening to Art Bell Somewhere in Time on Premier Radio Networks.
		Tonight, an oncore presentation of Coast to Coast AM from December 28th, 2001.
		There's a man with a gun over there telling me I've got to beware.
		I think it's time we stop.
		Children, watch that sound.
		Everybody look what's going down.
		I try to make you put your head to the music.
		Oh, when you're near me, darling, can you hear me?
		It's all right.
		The love you gave me, nothing left to save me.
		It's all right.
		When you're gone, how can I even try to go on?
		When you're gone, so I try, how can I carry on?
		You seem so far away, but you're not standing near.
		You let me feel alive, but nothing that I see.
		I really tried to make it out.
		I really tried.
		What happened to my love that used to be?
		I'm so glad.
		Oh, when you're near me, darling, can you hear me?
		You're listening to Arch Bell somewhere in time, tonight featuring a replay of Coast to Coast AM from December 28, 2001.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Good morning, everybody.
		We're doing our yearly predictions and sort of talking about some wild stuff that's going on right now.
		The Linda Moltow report will repeat a couple of hours, and that's one you really should listen to very, very carefully.
		So, all of that continues in a moment.
		Back into the shadows we go, and let us begin here.
		Wildcard line, you're on the air.
		Hello.
unidentified		Hello, Hart.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi.
unidentified		Yeah, this is Stu from Reno, Nevada.
unidentified		Yes, sir.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, indeed.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The home of Ross.
unidentified		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Ross Mitchell.
unidentified		Yes, indeed.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The voice of God.
unidentified		Yes, indeed.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		Hey, my prediction is SETI at home will receive signals will receive signals other than Earth-made signals.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		SETI at home gets hit.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How about that?
unidentified		Yeah, that's good.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Now, should it be SETI at home gets hit or gets real hit?
unidentified		I think they're going to get some real hits.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Some good hits.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Really?
unidentified		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		As in, we are being contacted.
unidentified		Absolutely.
unidentified		It's about time.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Any idea where the lucky person will be who has that particular report?
unidentified		You mean as far as home study users?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		Well, I hope it's me.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So you're crunching?
unidentified		Oh, I crunch, and I got all my neighbors crunching.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Well, I hope it's you too.
		I hope it's one of us.
unidentified		Okay, one other thing.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		Art, I work in a beer warehouse working 410 shifts, and I want to thank you for making my nights fly by.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, you're very welcome.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		A beer warehouse?
unidentified		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So you sling beer around all day?
unidentified		Well, I used to drive for them, but now I load beer.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What's that like loading that much beer?
unidentified		Well, during the holidays, it can be very hectic.
unidentified		Long days.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Having that much beer pass through your hands.
unidentified		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What's that like?
unidentified		After a while, it's just like another box.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's just like another box.
		Yeah, I got you.
		All right, well, thank you very much.
		It's like asking a bank teller, what's it like having that much money?
		Even though it's not your money, you're laying hands on, you know, just zillions of dollars.
		What's it like?
		And, you know, it's kind of like most tellers will say, big deal.
		Just like more paper.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Hello.
unidentified		Hi, Artist.
unidentified		Kathy from Woodridge, New Jersey.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi, Kathy.
unidentified		Having handled other people's money would really piss me off.
		That would not be the greatest job in the world.
		But art, I should have learned a long time ago when you said be careful when you play around with the weather.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
unidentified		And oh, Art, would I, I hope it wasn't me.
		I apologize, Buffalo.
		Ramona, listen to this one.
		I got out ye candles house five days before Christmas because I wanted meself a nice, fresh coat of nice white snow for Christmas.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Are you feeling responsible for what happened to Buffalo?
unidentified		Perhaps you listen to this in here.
unidentified		My neighbors know that I dabble with this and do these things.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, yes, yes.
unidentified		Well, I got the candles out and got the compass and did all what I thought were the right things.
		And the next day, I was talking to my neighbor.
		She says, by the way, did you notice that it snowed in Hawaii?
		I said, no, I didn't hear about that.
		So I went back the next night.
		Now it's four days before Christmas and got out the candles and did the same ritual.
		And I won't tell you what the ritual is.
		Most people know what it is.
		And I could have swore I had everything in the right direction.
		And then Buffalo happened.
		And we didn't get anything here in Woodbridge, New Jersey, in central New Jersey.
		Nothing.
		And it just kept going.
		And now I'm wondering, should I get out the candles and say, stop?
		Or I saw this poor guy art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, you know what?
		With your record so far, you better quit.
		You're liable to wipe out Westchester or something.
unidentified		I wished for a kitten.
		I got two weeks ago a 23-pound spaded gray cat appeared.
		He's still here.
		He's beautiful.
		I don't know where he came from.
		Nobody seems to know whose cat he is, but he's now mine.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm a 23-pound kitten.
unidentified		23-pound gray cat.
unidentified		Looks just like the one in your webcast.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're batting average.
		You've got to stop.
		Yeah, you've got to stop.
		Thank you, Kathy.
		You've got to stop.
		Have you seen these photographs of Buffalo?
		Seven feet of snow.
		Good God, seven feet of snow.
		And maybe more on the way.
		Hey, you know what?
		Somebody from Buffalo is never going to get through.
		So why don't I do this?
		One of y'all in Buffalo, fast blast me, your phone number.
		I really would like to chat for a minute with somebody sitting in seven feet of snow.
		I cannot fathom that.
		I mean, I remember big, big snowstorms when I was a kid.
		You know, Connecticut, New Jersey, but mostly up in Connecticut.
		You know, we have some doozers, but seven feet of snow, that's really over the top in more ways than one.
		And so if somebody in Buffalo would fast blast me their phone number, I will call you because obviously the odds of your being able to get through here are kind of slim.
		West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Hello.
unidentified		Hi, this is Kayla from Hairstrick, Oregon.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Kayla?
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Welcome to the program.
		How old are you, Kayla?
		You sound very young.
unidentified		How old?
unidentified		13.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're 13?
unidentified		Yeah.
		Okay.
		I have a prediction.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
unidentified		I have a prediction that terrorists are going to release smallpox somewhere in the United States.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Smallpox released, huh?
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
		La, another cheerful little prediction.
		And you believe it will happen within the year?
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And what do you think will happen as a result of this release?
unidentified		I think that a lot of people are going to get exposed to the smallpox and get sick.
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, Kayla.
		Thank you very much for your prediction.
		It's number 59.
unidentified		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, thank you.
		That's got kind of an uncomfortable feel to it.
		You know why?
		Because the government keeps talking about it.
		Why have they spent so much time on smallpox?
		I can only figure it's because they think somehow we are particularly vulnerable to smallpox.
		Or they know that somebody has their hands on smallpox.
		Or they have credible information that somebody intends to do such a thing.
		And so, you know, hearing that from the mouth of a babe there is kind of uncomfortable.
		First time caller line, you're on air.
		Hello.
unidentified		Hi, Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi.
unidentified		Hi, this is John down in Fort Walton Beach, Florida.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, hi, John.
unidentified		I just had a quick, I guess, observance, if you'd like to call it that, and then I was just a quick prediction if that's okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, observe first.
unidentified		Well, last week my brother took a trip over to Jacksonville.
unidentified		He's going to just have a few weeks' vacation, and he decided to take a Greyhound over there.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Right.
unidentified		And he got his Greyhound ticket packet.
		And he just went in and took the tickets and handed me the envelope that they came in.
		And the front of it just looks as normal.
		It's got a picture of the Greyhound logo on the front with his gait and time.
		But you turn it over on the back.
		And half of the picture, three-quarters of the picture, is covered with dark gray skies and an open field with a huge silver flying saucer with a button to the right.
		It says, got news, 1800 to collect, save a buck or two.
		So maybe some of the copies of that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's just an ad.
		I mean, you know, they're using this sort of thing.
		Yeah, to probably get us ready.
		That's one way of looking at it.
unidentified		Now, a quick prediction real quick.
		I had a pretty scary dream a few months ago.
		Mount Rainier, it's going to blow its top pretty nasty.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That was your dream.
unidentified		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Every year somebody predicts Mount Rainier is going to go.
unidentified		Yeah, and actually it was about two weeks before it started.
		I think it was back in March.
		It started having a little rumbling around the base of the volcano.
		And it was about two weeks before that.
		And I had the weird dream and told my brother about it.
		And it just kind of really scared me.
		And then I've had the same dream a few times since then.
		It's just going to really get pretty bad.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Do your dreams have a habit of coming true?
unidentified		The only other one that ever really did, I was about nine years old.
		This is about 20 years ago.
		A little over 20 years ago.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I mean, whatever.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		If you only had one other one that came true.
unidentified		I had a dream that there was a lady over in a Middle Eastern lady who was speaking to a group of people, and all of a sudden her best friends turned around and pulled out automatic weapons and killed her.
		And two days later, Indira Gandhi was murdered by her sick bodyguards.
		So it was kind of spooky.
		I didn't really understand it at the time until I explained it to my mother.
		Yeah, that was pretty bizarre.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		We'll all take it under advisement, and it has been officially recorded.
		That's the important thing.
		I mean, I know that some of these predictions really sound over the top, but you never know a year from now.
		By now, if we have learned anything, I think we have learned nothing will much surprise us anymore.
		The world just gets stranger and stranger, right?
		Welcome to the Rockies.
		You're on the air.
		Hi.
unidentified		Hi, this is Max from Globe, Arizona.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi, Max.
unidentified		Hey, Happy New Year.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
unidentified		I have a prediction.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
unidentified		Between the 19th of January and the 23rd, the Beijing radio will be sold out.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, well, that's probably a fairly safe prediction.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It might even happen before that.
unidentified		Well, if I'm going to predict something, I want it to happen.
		I have one.
		I love it.
		And in fact, I have the CC too.
		Both of them are great radios.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, they are.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The Majin is, it's an amazing, truly an amazing device.
unidentified		I'm listening to you from a station probably 400 miles away right now.
unidentified		I'm picking up on five stations.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Really?
unidentified		Yeah, and do you know about what they call orphans?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yes.
		Sea Crane Company, Orphan Program?
		Yes, I know about it.
unidentified		Should that be mentioned?
		Probably not because...
		I don't want to get over it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The reason I say probably not is because there's probably not enough to justify a sudden rush on requests if you follow me.
unidentified		Yeah, that's what happened to me, and I was overjoyed.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm sure.
		I appreciate the plug, sir.
		Thank you.
unidentified		Yes, sir.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Bye.
		Take care.
		I'd say there's a good chance that'll happen.
		They're almost sold out.
		First time caller line, you're on the air.
		Hi.
unidentified		Oh, am I?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		Hey.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Where are you?
unidentified		New York.
		Okay.
		Yeah.
		Is this strictly for predictions or?
		No, no.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean.
unidentified		Okay, I've got a little news star I want to bring to your attention and then a prediction.
		Okay.
		Okay.
		Representative Shore Bollert has just introduced something called the Cybersecurity Research and Development Act.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Sounds interesting.
unidentified		It's to quell all these problems that people have been having, you know, with, well, particularly one platform for the past 10, 15 years, right?
		Yes.
		They're going to spend about $500 million.
		That's how much is requested to do this so-called research, right?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		All the federal government's got to do, in my opinion, if they don't want those kinds of problems, is just to prohibit any sensitive facility from using Windows.
		That simple.
		Instead of building us for $500 million.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I'm not so sure that would cure it.
unidentified		Oh, I'm sure it would.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, I'm not so sure it would.
		Not with really sophisticated means of hacking.
		I realize that there are some obvious holes there, but there are ways, sir, of hacking into computers that are operating in DOS, for God's sake.
unidentified		Yeah, but that's still based on Microsoft and Intel.
		Not that I'm a Macintosh guy.
		I hate Macs as well.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You have equal hate, huh?
unidentified		Oh, yeah, they're both.
		Yeah.
		I can't stand either platform.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but hacking is going to happen no matter what.
unidentified		There's a myth that there's no such thing as a secure platform, because you can make a platform secure.
unidentified		It's just, you know, it's like all these people that were You know, platforms are also designed, I would say, a primary directive of a platform would be the ease of operation for the operator.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, that's probably the first item they have.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Security is there, but it's not right at the top of the list, right?
unidentified		Yeah, but the two don't have to conflict.
unidentified		That's the thing.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, without platforms, we wouldn't have the number of computer users we have now.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, not even close.
unidentified		If everybody...
		The Internet was a lot more interesting back before AOL and everybody else got on.
		Granted, there wasn't as much nifty stuff, but if you went out there to ask a question on the news groups, you could get a sane answer.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You can tell, sir, the Internet is beginning to mature when people are longing for the good old days of the Internet.
unidentified		Oh, yeah.
		1986.
		Anyway, my prediction.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Your prediction, yes.
unidentified		My prediction.
unidentified		Okay, I'm saying this non-politically.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But it doesn't involve...
unidentified		Well, it involves people that are related to prominent politicians.
		I'm going to predict that there are going to be compromising photos, not pasties, but actual ones, of one of the first daughters that's going to show up on the internet somewhere.
		Because there's already been some riot.
		I hear there have been rewards put out for this kind of thing on the internet on some of these sites.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You know, that's disgusting.
		I mean, that means that internet paparazzis are going to be hounding the president's daughters, and that's crap.
		That's such crap.
		I'll put it down.
		You know, I'll put it down as a prediction.
		And I sure hope that it's wrong.
		Why don't they leave Bush's daughters alone?
		They're teenagers, for God's sakes, and no different than any other teenagers anywhere around the country.
		Except they have to be the daughter of a president.
		You know, it's so unfair to them.
		You think about it, they're losing their teen years to their dad's presidency, in a way.
		Because what can they do without some idiot chasing them with a camera, trying to get some sort of compromising photo?
		Imagine if somebody, when you were a teenager, when you were a teenager.
		Come on now, remember back.
		If they chased you around, some idiot had chased you around with a camera, waiting to see you necking with somebody or something or another.
		We live in a bad time in some ways.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Hello.
unidentified		Hello, my name's Tim from Asheville, New York.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Welcome.
unidentified		I'm about 60 miles southwest of Buffalo.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, you are?
unidentified		And in my front lawn is three inches of snow.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So you have a snow lawn, really?
unidentified		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But that's how much snow again?
unidentified		Three inches.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Three inches.
unidentified		That's total for this season.
unidentified		Well, what do you figure?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How do you figure Buffalo must have really ticked off somebody high up?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, seven feet of snow, sir?
unidentified		The winds went the entire length of Lake Erie.
		And usually they come across Lake Erie.
		Yeah.
		And I'm in a traditional snowbelt area, and usually we have more snow than Buffalo.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, can you imagine seven feet?
unidentified		I can imagine it.
unidentified		Only imagine it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, that's up to seven feet.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's like covering people's windows and stuff.
unidentified		Yes, I have old photos of our home where the driveway has like 10 foot on each side.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's a really serious storm.
		All right, well, listen, I appreciate your call, and I'll check for some numbers in Buffalo here, and we'll talk to some people who are really under all seven feet of this.
		Can you imagine?
		You're probably wondering who they ticked off up there.
unidentified		You're listening to Art Bell, Somewhere in Time.
		Tonight featuring a replay of Coast to Coast AM from December 28, 2001.
		I see you, Lord.
		Ooh, my Lord.
		Ooh, my Lord.
		I really want to see you.
		I really want to see you, Lord.
		I really want to see you, Lord.
		But it takes so long, my Lord.
		I see you, Lord.
		You, my Lord.
		I really want to see you, Lord.
		You dug me if you might want to, as she walked up your own world.
		Have you followed the young fellow from which direction complaint with it?
		While the boots of all never market thought the hinder she leads you to Remier Radio Networks presents Art Bell Somewhere in Time.
		Tonight's program originally aired December 28, 2001.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, indeed.
		Morning, everybody.
		We're doing predictions.
		We're talking about some incredible stuff.
		The predictions are awfully dark, but it's been a very dark year, so maybe we should expect that.
		I don't know.
		At any rate, we'll get back to all of it in a moment.
unidentified		The End All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I got a million people from Buffalo who fast-blasted me and were perfectly willing to talk about the snow.
		I chose Carol after one other brief conversation, which somehow that terminated.
		I then picked Carol.
		And she's, I think, in the outskirts of Buffalo or something or another.
		Is that right, Carol?
unidentified		Yes, I'm on the northern part, which we got it continuously for about all three days.
		It kept going back and forth between north and the south.
		It kept oscillating back and forth.
		And that's why it's such a deep snow this time, because it kept going back and forth and dumping off the lake.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's really true that there are parts of Buffalo under seven feet of snow?
unidentified		Right, yes, because it's been accumulated.
unidentified		But that's mostly in like South Buffalo and down around the southern suburbs, West Sonica, Backawanna, where there's a snow.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What in the world are people doing?
unidentified		Having a good time.
		Mostly it was, they went home from work early on Thursday, most people did.
		And then what happened was everything was closed.
		So as a result of vacation time, school being out and less traffic, that type of thing, we ended up with less congestion as opposed to last year when it was just, oh, it was mayhem last year.
		But it just worked out better this year because of less traffic and people being able to pitch it and help.
		That's one thing it did bring out in people was the 9-11 effect.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but this is like enough snow so that it's coming up to your windows or, you know, covering half your window or maybe your whole window or something.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's incredible.
unidentified		Well, I know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, if you dig out, do you open the door and start digging out?
unidentified		Well, it's an accumulative, so we've been able to keep on top of it that way.
		So that it would snow for like a foot, two feet, three feet, and you snow plow and shovel and everything.
		And so that you keep on top of it that way so that when you open the door, there's not to be seven feet.
		It might be two, three feet.
		But then the next day, some more falls and you clear that out.
		So that the snow piles are maybe 10, 12 feet high sometimes because of having to pile it up and up and up.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That type of thing, yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		They don't have snow like this up where the Eskimos come from.
unidentified		I know.
		It helps to bring people together.
		You should see how people help each other.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I'm sure.
unidentified		Unbelievable.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm sure that was one of the cardinal rules in Alaska that you never pass anybody that needs help.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		When you're in that kind of weather, you can't do that.
unidentified		Oh, gosh.
		It's an experience.
		A friend of ours came from Florida, our next-door neighbor, and he took Andrew just to go skiing.
		And ironically, the ski area did get no snow at all, only maybe a couple of inches.
		Unbelievable.
		But now it's supposed to go down there for them for a couple of feet.
		But it's all this way from Florida to go skiing.
		No snow like in the real southern part of the state.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So is it a sunny forecast or are they talking about more snow?
unidentified		Another one to two feet.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Another one to two feet?
unidentified		That's what they say.
		Yeah.
		Oscillate back up here north again and then go back down south to the ski country and stay there.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What do you say to the people who are saying Buffalo has done something really bad and they are being punished from above for this?
unidentified		No, I think it's just a test of our strength and our good naturedness and our willing to help each other.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Thank you, Hun, for coming on the air.
		Thank you very much.
		Take care.
		All right.
		So there's a voice from down under.
		Down under.
		Seven feet of snow with a couple more coming.
		That's absolutely amazing.
		And we're going to hear more stories like that as the weather becomes more severe all the way around, which it is squarely doing right now.
		First time caller line, you're on the air.
		Hello.
unidentified		Hi, Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		Hi.
		That's really strange.
		I think that was my sister.
		I just called you.
		Are you got contact with me?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You think that was your sister?
unidentified		Absolutely.
unidentified		Sounds just like her.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Do you realize the odds of that?
unidentified		That's pretty strange.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You really think that was your sister?
unidentified		I really do.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How strongly do you believe that was your Sister?
unidentified		Oh, about 98%.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're kidding.
unidentified		Both my sisters live in Buffalo?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, no.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, about 98%.
unidentified		Absolutely.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, that would be a first.
		If you're really serious, I'll call her back.
		And we'll find out.
unidentified		Could you do that?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hell yeah.
		Hold on.
		No, I can't resist.
		That would be too much.
		What are the odds against that?
		I don't believe it.
		Must not be.
		We'll find out.
		That would be too much for even me.
		Okay.
		Let's see if we can get Carol back on the line here.
unidentified		This is too much.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I bet it is.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But we know Carol's up.
unidentified		Hello, Bell.
		I heard that on the radio.
		I heard it on the radio.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, Ariana.
unidentified		Did you catch his name then?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I didn't get his name either, but he thinks that you're his sister.
unidentified		Right, the brother.
		What state is he from?
		I have a brother in.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hold on.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Are you there?
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Caller.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Your name again is, what's your first name?
unidentified		Mark in Lima, Ohio.
		Mark in Lima, Ohio.
		Okay, I don't know the market.
		I have a brother, John, in Florida and a brother, Daniel, in California.
		Oh, that's not her.
		Sorry, aren't we?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, there's so much for 98%.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Kathy, thank you.
unidentified		Thank you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Take care.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That would have been...
unidentified		It would have been...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I would love to have that happened.
		Thanks, hon. Right.
		Okay.
		You're back on the air, sir.
unidentified		All right.
		Well, anyway, I have a prediction.
		Okay.
		This kind of goes back to one of your previous callers.
		He said something about SETI.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Right.
unidentified		I want to take that just a step further, and this kind of hangs in the balance of SETI going to optical SETI during the year.
unidentified		If that happens, I think right away, as soon as they change over, we'll have contact, unbelievable contact, all over the place.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So all of a sudden, when SETI goes optical, you think that's where the signals really are, and they'll get their hit, kaboom, just like that.
unidentified		Yeah, all over the place.
unidentified		I mean, they'll be overwhelmed.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, let's say, for the sake of argument, that that happens and SETI gets a sudden signal like that, sir.
		What do you think would happen?
		Would the world know right away, or would it be hidden away, you know, like in the movie, would the military show up?
		Or what would happen if SETI went optical and suddenly they're all there?
unidentified		Well, I don't think the military would have too much to say about it because it would be too overwhelming for them even to try to contain it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So you think the world would immediately become aware?
unidentified		Right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And what do you think the implications of that would be?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		well i don't know i don't know if it's a I think so.
unidentified		Yeah, I think we're being prepared enough for it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Uh-huh.
		Okay, I appreciate the call.
		I don't think so.
		Call me old-fashioned, but I disagree with you, and I think the world could not handle it.
		And if you had been sitting in the seat that I've been in for all these years and talked to as many fundamentalists as I have talked to, I think you would hold my opinion as well.
		Trust me when I tell you that a high enough percentage of the people who would receive this news would view these whatever as devils, as representatives of the dark force, and you just can't imagine what would happen.
		You just can't imagine.
		So I've always thought we are not ready.
		Wildcard line, you're on the air.
		Hello.
unidentified		Hello.
		Hi.
		Is it me?
		Hi.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You, hi.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		I had a prediction regarding the beef industry and matte cow disease.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
unidentified		Based on information that is already, intelligence already available, when the first case is finally confirmed, they will finally shut down the border across Mexico.
unidentified		They will establish a kind of bio-DMZ 200 miles wide to contain it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So you think that there'll be Mad Cow disease here and they'll close the border?
unidentified		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Or I guess, all right, thank you.
		Or I guess you think in Mexico, and so they would close the border.
		Well, certainly they would take if we've been very lucky, very lucky so far with regard to Mad Cow and very lucky.
		I suppose if it appeared south of us, we would take that step, wouldn't we?
		Countries have taken some pretty radical steps when confronted with Mad Cow.
		Very radical.
		So closing a border, that wouldn't be too far over the top, would it?
		East of the Rockies, you're on air.
		Hello.
unidentified		Good morning, Art.
		Hi.
		This is Joy from Syracuse, New York.
		No snow here yet.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No snow.
unidentified		But I asked my guys for a positive prediction for you, and they gave me one.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
unidentified		I predict that this coming year, Art Bell will forge ahead and do more shows like the one he did for Rush Lindlaugh.
		And I'm still waiting.
		I emailed you this after you did this show, and I'm still waiting patiently for a reply to that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Are you aware that Rush Lindbaugh has had a cochlear implant?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I did hear surgery done.
unidentified		Something to that effect.
unidentified		I don't know the whole story.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
		Well, it's a very interesting story.
		Okay.
		We'll see.
unidentified		Yeah, you said you were afraid.
unidentified		I predict you will not be afraid and you will do some more.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I don't think afraid is exactly the right word.
		I'm mindful.
		I'm thoughtful.
		And I understand that we're on to something big.
		It's just that I don't understand it well enough to tamper around with it.
		I mean, look what Kathy and Woodbridge did to Buffalo.
		God.
unidentified		I know.
		Well, I surround Syracuse every day with a triple protection of white light.
		I think Other people can think about that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		I appreciate the call.
		Thank you.
unidentified		Thank you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		That's a big issue with me.
		I don't know if we'll do more or not.
		I'm not sure what's right to do.
		And it's been an amazing odyssey, this whole thing with these experiments.
		It's been a truly, a truly amazing odyssey.
		It kind of goes along in some ways with the information that we're getting from The Lancet and the bit about life after death and all the rest of it.
		Getting some pretty serious scientific proof in areas where we've never had it before on a lot of things.
		West of the Rockies, you're on the air, huh?
unidentified		Hi, Art.
		Hello.
		This is Rick calling from Gilbert, Arizona.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
unidentified		And my prediction for the year 2002, by the same time this year or this coming year, the government's going to start a project called Project Day Spring.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Day Spring?
unidentified		Day Spring.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Right.
unidentified		And what this beginning project is, is going to go into a 10-year cycle and will ultimately end in the year 2012.
		Basically what Project Day Spring is, is things are going to get so bad on the planet Earth that somebody's going to have to develop a nonviolent weapon, but one that has nanobot gas in it.
		And these nanobots are in a bomb form or aerosol form.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Designed to do what?
unidentified		Basically designed to create a human 3D internet, if you will.
unidentified		Basically what will be for those who are survived after the Third World War, what it will be, will be like a giant 3D holographic internet for everybody to exist in.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Wait, wait, wait a moment.
		Does that mean that the Third World War is going to occur between now and the end of next year?
		That's not a small detail, if true.
unidentified		That is uncertain.
unidentified		There's a lot of uncertainty when it comes to predicting the future.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But you just said that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It'll come after the Third World War, you said.
unidentified		Right.
		We will develop it.
		Third World War will start by this year.
		The government itself will develop the Day Spring project, which will be a nanobot gas.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I got that part.
unidentified		And these nanobots will actually go into the atoms in your body, every single one, and basically convert those into basically a UFO, a starship of some sort.
		So that you could take every particle in your body, you can teleport anywhere in the world.
		At the same time, you're just an energy form.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
unidentified		So in actuality, it would be...
		Right.
		And by 2012, everybody will basically be able to teleport by means of nanobot gas, and we will have eternal life.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I got it.
		All right.
		Thank you.
		2012, huh?
		Maybe that's why everything stops in 2012, because everybody's fed up with Earth and they teleport their butts to a better place.
		And so all of these psychics and remote viewers that hit this barrier at 2012, they hit it because there's nobody left.
		Everybody's teleported their butts somewhere or better.
		First time caller line, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hi.
unidentified		Yes, this hotel?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It is, yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're in a truck someplace.
unidentified		Yes, sir.
		I'm in Gainesville, Florida.
		Okay.
		Yes, sir.
		I have a prediction.
		Yes.
		My prediction is Al Gore is going to come up and reinvent the cheeseburger.
		And he's going to revolutionize the cheeseburger.
		It's going to be environmental friendly.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Al Gore is going to revolutionize the cheeseburger?
unidentified		Yes, it's going to be environmental friendly.
unidentified		He's going to call it slick willy sliders.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I knew I wasn't putting that down.
		I didn't even start writing.
		Ha ha ha ha.
		Usually these guys who have these things that turn into jokes, you know, I don't officially record them.
		He just blew his chest to have a real prediction.
		You know, usually they sucker me and I'm writing, you know, Al Gore, this, and that, and then I have to end up erasing it.
		I was on to this guy.
		Wildcard line, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hello.
unidentified		Oh, yes, Lord.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How are you?
unidentified		I'm not too bad.
unidentified		First, I have to ask you, do you rate for last year's predictions, do you write the names down with the prediction?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The people's names?
		No, absolutely not.
		I'm taking them on the air, just the way you hear me taking them right now.
unidentified		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So you don't hear me asking for people's names, right?
unidentified		Yeah.
unidentified		I was just wondering, because mine was number 23.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		23 would have been about another virus, right?
unidentified		Yes.
unidentified		A virus or disease will attack the world.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I dinged it.
unidentified		Oh, great, great.
		See, that's the thing is it started with what?
		Mad cow, foot and mouth, alchemo anthrax.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, I gave it a ding, sir.
unidentified		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're one of the winners.
unidentified		My prediction.
unidentified		What number am I for this?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, if you make one now, and don't joke with me, it'll be number 67.
unidentified		Oh, I never joke if you are.
		There will be terrorism and a major sporting event.
		Baseball, football, maybe soccer.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Another cheery one.
		Terrorism and major sporting event.
		Now, coming from somebody who got a ding last year, this has got to be regarded very seriously.
unidentified		And especially I'm very good with sports, too.
unidentified		I barely ever lose and bet.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		having predicted one correctly last year being one of our winners let me ask you how do you in in what manner do you discern these events uh...
unidentified		i would just like No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, I'm asking How you get these revelations?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How they come to you?
unidentified		I figure I have to have something good come towards me.
		I always talk to you and everyone about my bad luck.
		I figure this is my only good thing.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I see.
unidentified		Things just come to me.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The one good thing in your life is the ability to predict, huh?
unidentified		I can at times, yes.
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Well, I appreciate it then.
		Terrorism at a major sporting event this coming year.
		I know that the obviously the U.S. government has been concerned about the possibility of terrorism at a sporting event.
		No question about that.
		You've seen the security, the air corridor, the air overflight restrictions, all the rest of it.
		So they are concerned about that, rightly so.
		On my international line, you're on the air.
		Hello.
unidentified		Oh, hi, Mr. Bell.
unidentified		My name is Marianne, and I'm flying from New Zealand.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		New Zealand, welcome.
unidentified		Thank you.
		I have a couple of premonitions or whatever you want to call them.
		I actually sent you an email back on 25th of September stating a couple of premonitions that I had had.
		And I know you get thousands of emails, so you probably didn't even see them.
		One of them happened, one of the things that I predicted then happened, and that was the plane that blew up that your government said was an accident, but it wasn't.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Which plane are you referring to?
unidentified		This was the, I can't remember what date it happened.
unidentified		It was the one that was after the 9-11 tragedy.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, the one that went down in New York?
		Oh, okay.
		And they said was an accident.
unidentified		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And you're saying it was not?
unidentified		It was not an accident.
unidentified		I actually sent you an email on the 25th of September saying that that was going to happen.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, all right.
unidentified		That despite what the government said, it was not an accident.
unidentified		Right, all right, right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		We don't have a lot of time, so do you have any?
unidentified		Okay, the other one, one, well, let's go.
		One is that there's going to be a major earthquake in Japan or one of the closer Asian countries.
		It will be 7.5 or higher on the Raptor.
		It will cause extensive damage and loss of life, with the probability that it will be followed by a tsunami.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Got you.
		All right.
		I'm so sorry we're out of time, but I got that.
		A major earthquake in Japan or in the Far East.
		And that means 7.5 or so.
		Got it.
		Number 68.
		I'm Art Bell, and this is Coast to Coast AM in the nighttime.
unidentified		You're listening to Art Bell somewhere in Time on Premier Radio Networks.
		Tonight, an oncore presentation of Coast to Coast AM from December 28, 2001.
		The end, letters of written moons, never meeting since you see I don't wait with these eyes Some
		Velvet morning when I'm straight I'm gonna open up your game And maybe tell you about Phaedra And how she gave me life And how she made it
		in Some velvet mordor and I'm straight Flowers growing on our hills Drivin'flies and daffled years Learn from us very much Look at
		us but do not touch Phaedra is my name Some velvet morning when I'm straight I'm gonna open up your gate And
		And maybe tell you about me How she keep me alive And how she made it in someone You're listening to Arc Bell somewhere in time on Premiere Radio Networks tonight an encore presentation of Coast to Coast AM from December 28th 2001.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Good morning everybody.
		We're doing predictions for the year 2002 officially recorded and numbered predictions.
		We'll do this through New Year's Eve the end of New Year's Eve and I will be here for New Year's Eve live so I hope you are too.
		If you haven't yet recorded your prediction that will be your last opportunity back into the unknown night we go somebody from Lackawanna New York says Conrad says I believe the U.S. government is responsible for these seven feet of snow in Buffalo.
		He thinks it's harp produced or some such.
		Now that'd get your ire up wouldn't it if you're in Buffalo and somehow you found out that some little ray that they shot somewhere or another did it East of the Rockies you're on the air.
		Hi there.
unidentified		Hello.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello, where are you please?
unidentified		I'm in South Buffalo, New York.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're in Buffalo, New York?
unidentified		I'm in South Buffalo, where we got seven and a half feet.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Seven and a half feet.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And I hear two more are in the forecast, huh?
unidentified		Hopefully not.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		They are saying that, though.
unidentified		We have, like, no place to put it right now.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What's it like?
unidentified		What's it like?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		It's like being stuck in a house for a couple days with nothing to do except see snow.
unidentified		I can't complain, you know, it's nice.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, like, is it up to the windows?
unidentified		My bay window upstairs, I can't see out of it.
		You're kidding.
		When I walk off my porch, I can just walk right across the other neighbor's porch.
		You can actually walk over car tops where I am.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, my God.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You can walk over car tops?
unidentified		Oh, yeah.
		Some cars you can't even see anymore.
		They're so buried.
		Oh.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, man.
unidentified		Yeah, it's actually, you know, it brings a community together, though.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm sure it does.
unidentified		You know, neighbors you don't talk to all year long.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you go, hey, you guys all right over there?
unidentified		No, it's more like, hey, you got a snowblower over there?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, you probably can't even get to a store to buy a snowblower, huh?
unidentified		No, you're lucky you can get to the corner store to get groceries.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I hear you.
unidentified		And there's actually nothing on the shelf there anymore either.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Wow.
unidentified		It's kind of like everybody's finding for themselves now.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		If there are really, if two more feet come and there's nine feet of snow, or nine and a half feet, I guess that would be.
unidentified		Right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It just seems to me all human activity more or less ceases.
unidentified		For a few days here.
		Wow.
		You know, we got the National Guard here now.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I heard that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		National Guard's a rock.
unidentified		Because where I am, actually, the Olympic torch is coming down here on New Year's Eve, right down our street.
		So we got the National Guard here.
		We got 20 dump trucks lying down the street.
		And we're just waiting to get plowed out.
		Wow.
		It's pretty amazing.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It is amazing.
		All right, sir.
		You have a prediction.
unidentified		I think all the snow here is going to be melted by May.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm not recording that.
		It's going to melt.
		No, I just thought I'd call in.
unidentified		No problem.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, take care.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, so if you can't imagine that there's a fellow who just told you all about it, his window upstairs mostly covered.
unidentified		Wow.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It would be like if you wanted to go anywhere, you would literally, you'd have to...
		I suppose you could tunnel out of a window.
		That's really something.
		West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Hello.
unidentified		All right, James from Phoenix.
		Yes, sir.
		I think this is the year they're going to prove that the, well, you know, the spirit is fluid.
		I think they're going to prove the soul is conduit in the blood.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Is in the blood?
unidentified		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's an interesting idea.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Soul in the blood.
unidentified		As it is fluid, you know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, I understand.
unidentified		And I think that it might explain, like, polargeist activities and teenage girls.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What about the fact, what about the lady I interviewed?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		They took all the blood out of her body.
unidentified		And is still alive.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, there was something, obviously.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		They would have stored that blood immediately adjacent in the room.
unidentified		I believe, you know, it can't leave the body.
		I've done that.
		You know, having near death.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, you've presented me with a new idea.
		The soul is fluid and it's in the blood.
		Or in the totality of the blood.
unidentified		And I also think that maybe it might explain wrong oil in a machine.
		Like maybe mental retardation or other malformities of the body might have to do with blood types that can't carry the soul correctly.
		That's just a prediction that I have that will be proven this year.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		We'll look forward to it, sir.
		It is officially recorded as number 69, and that's pretty interesting when you think about it.
		And he could be as correct as anybody else that the soul itself is fluid and in the totality of the blood.
		They always called it life blood, right?
		Well, that's a really interesting theory.
		First time caller line, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hello.
unidentified		Hello.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi there.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I can barely hear you, so you're going to have to yell at me.
unidentified		Oh, no.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Where are you?
unidentified		I'm Isabel, and I'm from Julian, California.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, gotcha now.
unidentified		Okay.
		This is for you.
		Oh.
		And you will experience a, how would I say it, a humble wow.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I will experience a humble wow.
unidentified		Well, it's like you'll go wow, but it's going to be humbling.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's happened to me a few times already.
unidentified		Yeah, well, this is, it's almost as if you're a gentle soul and your scope is going to widen.
		It's almost as if the veil is going to be thinning.
		So it's somewhat of in the realm of oneness or seeing the part of you of where you fit in the big whole.
		But a lot of the guests that you've had, there's, if you just had that experience, you could understand it a little bit more, what they're talking about.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, there is no question that over the years, the guests that I've had have profoundly affected me.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You know, they have set me on a course of thinking that is very different than it was when I began this Odyssey.
unidentified		Right.
		This is different, though.
		This is your own by yourself.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Epiphany is some sort.
unidentified		Yeah, yeah.
		But it's at a time that you're going to be taking, like planning a trip by air that's going to be canceled or changed.
		And then the next trip that you take, a business pleasure type of a trip, it'll happen at that time.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How does all this come to you?
unidentified		I ask.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Good answer.
		All right.
		Thank you.
unidentified		You're welcome.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Number 70 is your prediction.
		And since that concerns me, that will be easy to rate next year.
		Wildcard line, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hello.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello.
unidentified		Hello, Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		Hey, Art.
unidentified		Hi, this is Jamie from the Coachella Valley, beautiful Coachella Valley in the city of Laquita.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		And I wanted to talk to you about a couple things first before I make my prediction.
		Okay.
		And it's, have you ever seen a sunburst?
		I was watching the NASA television TV and there showed a little thing saying a sunburst in a picture, you know, how it, I guess, looks from space.
		And I started looking at it, and I see the sun coming up from the horizon of Earth, and what looked like a bunch of octagon rays, I would say, coming down towards, you know, Earth.
		And then followed what looked like an explosion.
		Light glare and light glare of light.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Maybe you're seeing a sunspot explode.
unidentified		Yeah, well, I did say it before they showed it.
		It was a sunburst, that's what they called it, over the Pacific Ocean.
		And that, you know, like the flash, you know, from a nuclear explosion, that's what I, you know, I picked up.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I know this.
		I know that if you're out on the ocean, there is a phenomena that occurs at about sunset, just at the very moment that as you look at the very far horizon, and if it's very clear, just as the sun drops, the instant it drops below the sea level, you can see this incredible green flash sometimes every now and then.
		Is that what you're talking about?
unidentified		Yeah, well, it was...
unidentified		and it was like a bunch of octagon rays coming.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, the answer to your question is I have never experienced it, although I know what it is, and I've talked to plenty of people who have, I was like, wow.
unidentified		And then at the end, they showed, after it cleared or whatever, they showed like this red dot towards her.
		Anyway, it was something else.
		And chemtrails, you know, you were talking to Whitney Streeber, I guess, on December the 17th, I believe.
		And you talked to him saying that there was a bunch of activity going on over your area.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That is correct.
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, sir.
		We only have a little time.
		So hold it.
		We only have a little time.
unidentified		I experienced the same thing.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Sir, do you have a prediction?
unidentified		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Good, go ahead.
unidentified		I believe there is going to be a really heavy, I guess, sunburst.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		A sunburst.
		Okay.
		Thank you.
		We'll put a heavy burst from sun.
		That also is going to be fulfilled, I'm sure.
		The sun is going to have a wild year.
		And, you know, that probably means that all of us are going to have a wild year.
		West of the Rockies, you're on there.
		Hello.
		hello my names I turned it off.
		Okay, Fred?
unidentified		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And where are you, Fred?
unidentified		Canoe, Alaska.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Connick, Alaska.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, do you have seven feet of snow in Connick?
unidentified		No, y'all got all our snow.
unidentified		Ours has been melting off.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's what I've been hearing.
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Do you have a prediction you'd like to make or an insight you'd like to impart?
unidentified		Well, yes, I would.
unidentified		I believe that they're going to open up their minds and find a new technology very soon.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Whose they?
unidentified		Well, our leaders are going to find it necessary to do it because this old oil game is just about to play out.
unidentified		Well, I've been in the oil field my whole life, and I know that it's a lot of politics and a bunch of game playing, you know, and there's not really a problem other than the problem that they make theirselves, you know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, there's going to be an interesting time.
		The man is right.
		This whole oil thing is going to play out shortly.
		Now, there's arguments about how many reserves we have, but there's very little argument about how quickly the world, and specifically, by the way, the U.S., is using oil.
		And it is a finite source.
		So all kinds of things are going to begin to happen, you know, as we begin to get short on oil.
		There will be wars over oil.
		Wars which we will no doubt participate in.
		I mean, oil, we must have it.
		And since they are not moving toward alternative fuels, there will be a series of very serious crisis-type events that will occur before we begin moving in that direction, because, of course, we operate by crisis, but it's coming.
		As sure as that sun comes up and goes down every day so far, it's coming.
		It's inevitable.
		First time caller line, you're on the air.
		Hi.
unidentified		Good morning, Art.
unidentified		How you doing?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
unidentified		Fantastic.
unidentified		I'll make my prediction quick, and it is dire.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, well, join the crowd.
unidentified		India and Pakistan go to war using nukes.
unidentified		China backs Pakistan against India.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, no.
unidentified		The Muslim world declares a holy war against the Christians, the Jews, and the Hindus.
		China and its allies, the Muslim world, versus basically the United States, its allies, NATO and Russia, so on and so forth.
		Primarily because of the oil.
		Seeing China's finally coming into the 20th century, actually.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, and they're going to need oil there.
unidentified		They're going to need oil, yes, sir.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, sure.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		They're very industrial right now.
unidentified		The problem, well, the good news is that the war will probably be over within two years, but the United States is finally going to break out some of their super-secret weapons like your big flying triangles.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		And I've got a feeling those are earth-bound flying, well, battleships, as you could call them, I guess.
unidentified		They could be.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		They could be.
unidentified		And The other dire part of it, I think we're going to have some fighting here on the soil of the United States, which is going to change our attitudes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, our attitudes just got one big adjustment at 9.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's a pretty dire prediction, all right.
unidentified		And then again, by the way, there was a...
unidentified		You did bonk one the other night.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The Chinese have announced they're going to do a moonshot?
unidentified		Yeah, you said it.
unidentified		Matter of fact, I was listening to you one night.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm looking back.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You don't remember which one that was, yes.
unidentified		No, sir, I don't.
unidentified		It was one of your first ones, I believe.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And I bonked it.
		Let's see.
		Were they really the Chinese were really serious about putting a man on the moon?
unidentified		Yeah, I think the statement you made was, why?
		We've already done it.
		There's nothing.
		Well, there's things.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, here it is.
		Number 15, another shot to the moon announced.
		So you're saying that's a ding, huh?
unidentified		Yeah, the Chinese said they were going to try to do it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		I'm dinging it.
		Thank you.
		And that would bring the record up a little bit.
		Yeah, you know, I sort of vaguely remember that.
		Okay, well, I appreciate the correction.
		Wildcard line, you're on the air.
		Hello.
unidentified		Yeah, hello, Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		Bob from Newburgh, Oregon.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello, Bob.
unidentified		I got a good one for you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're okay.
unidentified		I think something's going to be happening to the moon in the coming year, and it's going to affect all of our tides and the water all around the world.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What do you imagine might happen?
unidentified		Well, I kind of think that the rotation of the moon may increase.
		Right now, we only see one side as it rotates clearly around us.
		But I think it's going to start spinning on an axis or moving on an axis.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That probably would be very bad for us.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, it would change all the tides and all kinds of strange effects would occur.
unidentified		Yeah, it could change the weather real bad.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Werewolves would become the predominating species on Earth.
		That would be bad.
		Any idea what might do that?
		I mean, it seems so stable right now.
unidentified		It seems like maybe a meteor impact that was coming could hit it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that could do it.
unidentified		Started spinning like a top.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That could do it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
unidentified		But I don't see it spinning real fast.
unidentified		I think it's going to just go slow.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, well, it would still have a profound effect here.
unidentified		Uh-huh.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		Wow.
		Okay.
unidentified		Appreciate it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's number 73.
unidentified		Okay.
unidentified		Thank you, Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Take care.
		In the continuing march of truly dire predictions for the year 2000.
		I mean, really dire.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Hi.
unidentified		How you doing, Arbel?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, sir.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Where are you?
unidentified		Oh, I'm headed into Texas, Arcana, going westbound here on 30.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Gotcha.
		All right.
		Do you have a prediction for us?
unidentified		I got a sport prediction for you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		A sports prediction?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		Yes, sir.
		I'd like to add to that.
		Barry Center is coming back and going to the Super Bowl?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Really?
unidentified		I can't remember the number of it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It was early on.
unidentified		Yes, sir.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It returns and goes to the Super Bowl.
unidentified		Yeah, it was an earlier prediction on earlier years.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I remember.
unidentified		Well, I would like to add to that.
unidentified		I would like to say Emma Smith breaks Walter Payton's record and then Barry Sanders also breaks the record.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Now, is this a prediction or a wish and a hope or both?
unidentified		No, it's a prediction.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's a prediction.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And how did this come to you?
unidentified		Well, I kind of dreamed about it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You dreamed about it?
unidentified		Yes, sir.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		After that guy said it wasn't like Jim Roam came to you in your sleep or something.
unidentified		Yes, sir.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, it was like that.
unidentified		Yeah, kind of, sort of, yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Kind of, sorta, yeah.
		Okay.
		Very good.
		Thank you, sir.
		So, Jim is roaming in the nighttime.
unidentified		What?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Last segment of predictions directly ahead.
unidentified		You're listening to Art Bell Somewhere in Time.
		Tonight featuring a replay of Coast to Coast AM from December 28, 2001.
		Coast to Coast AM from December
		28, 2001.
		Coast to Coast AM from December 28, 2001.
		I don't want your lonely mansion with a tear in every room.
		All I want's a love you promise beneath the haloed moon.
		But you think I should be happy with your money and your name.
		And hide myself in sorrow while you play your kingdom game.
		Silver threads and golden needles cannot mend this heart of mine.
		And I cannot drown my sorrow in the warm water wide.
		But you think I should be happy with your money and your name.
		And hide myself in sorrow while you play your cheating game.
		Silver threads and golden needles cannot mend this heart of mine.
		And why did I drown my sorrow in the warm water?
		You're listening to Art Bell Somewhere in Time, the night featuring a replay of Coast to Coast AM from December 28th, 2001.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Now, I want you to go to your psychic center to get these predictions.
		Anybody telling jokes or anything like that?
		i'm not going to report it because you're going to drag down our psychic average and it's coming up in the world although you need to think this year's coming predictions are going to be even half correct because if they are Oh my, it's going to be some year.
		I would say we're generally right on target for the number of predictions taken tonight and the number we will take on New Year's Eve itself.
		Just about dead on target for every year.
		Very good.
		First time caller line, you are on the air.
unidentified		Hello.
unidentified		Hello.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi.
unidentified		Oh, hi.
		That was silent.
		No click, no, nothing.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hey, modern technology.
unidentified		Yes, nice to speak with you, Mr. Bell.
		I have two predictions.
		One involves the Clintons.
		I predict in the coming year that I would say enough controversy comes to light about Bill and Hillary, specifically Bill, selling secrets to the Chinese, which is why their technology is going to enable them to go to the moon so easily.
		The other prediction is that you...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Most of the Rockies call toll-free.
unidentified		1-800-618-8255.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Quite all right.
		You're just expressing your natural personal self, that's all.
		Wildcard line, you're on the air.
		Hello.
		Hello, sir.
		How are you doing this morning?
		I'm doing just spiffy.
		How are you?
unidentified		Well, very good.
unidentified		This is Dean in Tampa.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Last year, in fact, I did two predictions on your coast-to-coast show.
unidentified		One was concerning Tashmir, and the other one was concerning life on Mars, as far as finding in the polar regions of Mars.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Were these officially recorded predictions?
		Yes, sir.
		And what numbers were they, please?
		That I don't know, sir.
		Well, I require numbers.
		I operate by numbers here, sir.
		You've got to remember the predictions.
		And so what about your predictions?
		Well, yes, sir.
		Well, actually, this is I have two predictions for the.
		No, you're not allowed to make two.
		Okay, sir.
unidentified		Well, I'll just make one then.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You take your best, Sean.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		The situation with Enron, the company that the largest bankruptcy that ever had happened here in the United States.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		I think a lot more things will reverberate from that.
unidentified		I think a lot of people that should not have, how you say, had their hand in the till will actually come exposed.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, you're the second person then.
		Thank you very much.
		It'll be number 75 to say the administration will become mired in this Enron scandal in this coming year.
		So you're the second one with that.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Hello.
unidentified		Hello, Art.
		How are you?
		Ookie.
		I don't know if anyone said this yet or not, but Yasir Arafet will be completely removed from power.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, actually, there was a lady who predicted that he would be removed with total prejudice.
		Actually, she said he would be assassinated.
		That was prediction number 51.
unidentified		Okay, mine will be he will be completely removed from power, but will not be assassinated.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So he's like he'll just retire.
unidentified		He'll be forced out of office.
unidentified		Not by voluntary.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		By extremists?
unidentified		Or by world powers will eventually come down on him and he will eventually be forced to resign.
		Not by extremists, just by world pressure.
		Not only from Jerusalem, but possibly.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And who would you imagine would, in essence, replace Yasser Art?
		I mean, a lot of people think Yasser Arafat's nothing but a mouthpiece anyway.
		So would it make much difference, you know, in the big scheme of things, you know, the Palestinian struggle, the Israeli staunch defense, and the fighting that would continue and continue?
		Would it change anything if Yasser was no longer there?
unidentified		No, I don't think it would change anything, quite honestly.
		And this has been debated quite a bit in the media as of today.
		I have heard that it really won't make much of a difference if he was replaced or not.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I wouldn't think so, unless it's by somebody more radical, and then everything would go to hell.
unidentified		I can real quick tell you this.
unidentified		About three years ago, I used to work for the U.S. Coast Guard, and I was patrolling off the coast of California.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Right.
unidentified		And I went up to the bridge.
		It was about maybe 2 or 3 o'clock in the morning.
		I went up to the bridge.
		All the guys were huddling around the radio.
		And I asked them what was going on.
		And they said that they were listening to this guy named Art Bell.
		I was like, well, what is an Art Bell?
		And they said, well, just listen to this.
		Well, this plane was flying over Area 51 and giving a step-by-step visualization of what was going on.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's right, yes.
unidentified		And his plane, he looked out his plane window and saw a bright light coming up at him.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
unidentified		I was wondering, whatever happened after that?
		Did anything ever come out in the news?
		Was that a hoax?
		Was that a...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, absolutely not.
		What came out of it?
		Let's see.
		We never heard from him again, which you would expect.
		And there are no numbers you can call up there at Area 51 to ask about such.
		Now, there was his girlfriend or wife, I think it was a wife, and she was on her way or was going to Area 51 to try and find him, nor have we ever heard from her again.
		So, you know, if it was a hoax, there was more than one involved.
		It worked out very well indeed.
		You can either imagine it was a hoax or it wasn't.
		I don't know.
unidentified		I see.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It certainly, you can depend on one thing.
		It sure as hell wasn't orchestrated by me or anybody for me or any of that baloney that people sometimes think.
		If it was a hoax.
unidentified		However, you tell them not to do it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, oh, yeah.
unidentified		Absolutely.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		Do I get a number out of this one?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's not a prediction.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's a review of history.
unidentified		Review of history.
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, a prediction is something that you believe is going to come true in the year 2002.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Do you have anything in that category?
unidentified		Oh, geez.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Everybody's a little dark this year, so I mean, if you want to predict disaster, that'd be okay.
unidentified		Predict disaster.
		Sure.
		There will be a seismic, a gigantic earthquake that will occur in the Seattle, Washington region this year.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Big earthquake in Seattle.
unidentified		Gigantic earthquake.
unidentified		We'll talk in 8.5 and above.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, well, that would level Seattle.
unidentified		Oh, yes.
unidentified		They've been talking about that for a while, too.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
		All right.
		All right.
		I appreciate the prediction.
		It's right in line with everybody.
		This is going to be the darkest year of predictions in the history of taking predictions.
		Now, I guess that's not really a surprise after 9-11, right?
		People's psychology is a little bit different this year, but I mean, this is really over the top, no question about it.
		West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hi, Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello.
unidentified		Hey, promise you aren't going to think I'm nuts when I say this.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I can't fully promise, but I'll make an effort.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Let's hear it.
unidentified		The guy that talked about the blood being the carrier of the soul.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yes, yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		He said the soul was liquid.
unidentified		Okay, well, think about this.
unidentified		A lot of times they're wondering how come ghosts are stuck to certain places, especially if they die violent deaths.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Right.
unidentified		What if their blood was shed there and that's where they have to remain?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Wow.
unidentified		Is that really all that far-fetched with what he said?
unidentified		Think about it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, no, it's not far-fetched at all.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		If that's true, then what happens when the police forensic experts come and clean all the blood up?
unidentified		Well, the blood was still.
unidentified		You can't ever eliminate totally the blood.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's true.
unidentified		There's always, always a speck somewhere remaining.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're quite correct.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And in that speck is all the DNA.
unidentified		Well, the ghost is stuck there.
unidentified		See, now you're laughing.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm not really laughing.
		That's sort of a considered laugh.
		I'm laughing because it's possible.
		Thank you.
unidentified		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Take care.
		It's something for people to think about.
		That the soul is liquid and is contained in a whole of the blood, or any part of the blood contains the soul.
		It certainly does contain your DNA information, right?
		The one easy way to get DNA.
		Boy, you have blood, you have DNA, boom, like that.
		So maybe.
		And maybe when you ask, where was Pam during that hour, maybe she was in that vat over there where they were storing her blood watching.
		Bless to the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Hello.
		Hello.
unidentified		Hello?
		Yes.
		You had mentioned wanting something nice, so I was concentrating on something nice, and the words came into my head.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Ease to the Rockies called Whole Free, 1-800-825-5033.
		Okay, I would rather not air it here.
		Yeah, that's right.
unidentified		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, but do you have another one?
unidentified		No, that's it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, you know what?
		Let me put it this way.
		I personally highly appreciate what you said, and I hope you're absolutely right, okay?
unidentified		The other part of it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no, don't give me the other part of it.
		I appreciate it.
		Thank you very much.
		I already didn't air the first part, so I'll give it the second part.
		You just know I wouldn't.
		First time caller line, you are on the air.
		Hello.
unidentified		Hey, Art Bill.
unidentified		This is Matt in Alaska.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello, Matt in Alaska.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How are you doing?
unidentified		Yeah, the weather up here in Wasilla, where I'm from, it's been negative 15 for the last month and a half until Christmas, and then it jumped up to about 40 degrees.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		40 degrees at Christmas.
		That must have been pretty ugly.
		I mean, at 40, stuff begins to melt, and it's like Mudville.
unidentified		Well, the ground's still so frozen that it can't thaw it out unless it stays that way for a month.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's a strange Alaskan Christmas.
unidentified		Well, it's probably harp, but I predict the Mississippi River Delta is going to flood so bad, it's too bad.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Mississippi floods, huh?
unidentified		Yep.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I think there's a good chance that what you're saying is probably dead right.
		Thank you very much.
		It'll be number 78, Mississippi Floods.
		And that would go with the increased weird weather we're having, all the weather that's upside down, wrong, and very violent, and so I wouldn't be surprised at all.
		West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Good morning.
unidentified		Hello, Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How's your back been?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Actually, pretty spiffy.
unidentified		Pretty spiffy.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, like I traveled in time and went back to my old back, you know.
unidentified		Oh, that's great.
		Hey, if I need, uh, gave you the name Slacker Slayer.
		Would you like to make a prediction?
		I've been emailing you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
		Do you want to make a prediction?
		I mean, that's what we're here for, so sure.
unidentified		Okay.
		A new energy source that will completely eliminate nuclear, fossil fuels, solar, wind power, everything.
		It will all be a joke.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		An energy source so powerful, so plentiful, that it just wipes everything off the map.
unidentified		Yeah, there is no input whatsoever, and the only output is electricity.
		No pollution whatsoever.
		The only resources are the resources to construct it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Because you have designed it, right?
unidentified		I have designed it and a patent right now.
unidentified		So it should be out here real soon.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, you know, my threshold of belief regarding this kind of thing is pretty high or pretty low, depending on how you look at it.
		I'd be satisfied with a toy that could demonstrate over unity.
		You know, a little energizer bunny that could keep jumping around the room until the cows came home or whatever.
		Something like that at that scale, and you'll get me on board.
		That's all I need.
unidentified		Eliminate all power grids.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, see, that's thinking big.
unidentified		Thinking big.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		Coming around.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But all I want is a little toy.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		When can I get that?
unidentified		We'll be working on it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		All right.
		A little thing that'll hop around until I'm tired of looking at it, all right?
unidentified		Keep a TV running anything you want.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah, okay.
		All right.
		These things just never happen, though.
		You hear so much about them.
		They even have conventions where people take their secret boxes, you know, and they claim to have more output than input.
		And they take these secret black boxes and they all put them on a table and they all sort of rumor about and talk about each other's invention.
		And frankly, I don't think any of them have it yet.
		But you never know.
		You've got to always hold out the possibility that somewhere, somebody like that man really has done it.
		But I'll not be holding my breath.
		First of all.
		Hello there.
unidentified		Turn your radio.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Sir, turn your radio off.
unidentified		Yeah, I turn it off.
		Please don't hang up.
		I'm trying for three months.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Three months you're trying to get in, huh?
unidentified		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, where are you?
unidentified		I'm in LAX Holding Lad.
		Airport, LX Airport Holding Lad.
		I'm a cab driver.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		A cab driver, okay?
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, well, you're on the air.
unidentified		Am I on the air or what?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, you're on the air.
unidentified		Is this Art Bell by any chance or who is this?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm the only one here, sir.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's the only possibility only can reach me.
unidentified		Oh, my God.
		Okay.
		How are you, Art Bell?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Now make sure your radio's off and go ahead.
unidentified		Yes.
unidentified		Yeah, let me roll my windows up so nobody will bother me here.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I mean, if the fair comes, you're going to have to take it.
unidentified		Okay, no.
unidentified		I'm not close to my if I have to turn my fare down, I'll turn my fare down, no problem.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Go ahead.
unidentified		Okay, I've been trying to get a prediction from yesterday.
		I couldn't get you.
		I mean, it's very hard to get you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, I understand that, sir.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But now you have me, so it's time to make your prediction.
unidentified		Okay.
unidentified		My prediction is in next year, there will be a dam is going to blast somewhere in India.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		In India?
unidentified		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, a dam will be blasted.
unidentified		It's called one of the biggest dam in India, which will flood India and Pakistan both.
		It has sufficient water to flood half of Pakistan and half of India.
		And there will be no news at all.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No news?
unidentified		No news.
unidentified		No nuclear power will be used between India and Pakistan.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What part of the world are you from?
unidentified		I'm from India.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		India.
		You know, we're hearing all this news now about India and Pakistan, both nuclear powers, threatening to go to war with each other.
		Very strong words, cutting back on the number of representatives in each other's countries, and both are saying they would use nuclear weapons.
		The Chinese are beginning to move troops.
		What do you think is going on?
unidentified		Yeah, if no nukes will be used either side, I believe.
		No.
		This is just a threatening, that's all.
		But I believe, my strong belief is that my entire family was over there in Army and Air Forces.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		And I know that they will not use it against them because they all are the same kind of people.
		have same culture, same food, same dress, everything's similar.
		Well, there's one thing that Yes, but they've had three wars now.
		They've had two wars before, not three.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, but a third is threatened.
		And they do have nuclear weapons, after all.
		And if you do get in a war, if you really get in another war, then you tend to use whatever you have to win.
unidentified		That is true, Art.
		That is very true.
		But like I said, I've been visualizing all this thing in my mind for last, before September 11.
		Before September 11, I was having this thing in my, when the Kargil fight was between India and Pakistan, I'll have that thing.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, all right.
		I've got it registered.
		Thank you very much.
		It's a dam that will be blasted in India, affecting or flooding large portions of both India and Pakistan.
		That would be interesting.
		Wildcard line, you're on the air.
		Not a lot of time.
unidentified		Hello?
		Yes.
		My prediction is the next big earthquake will be in Finland.
		That'll be coming up around approximately February 11th.
		And also, the man who is sending the anthrax in the mail is already dead.
		Yeah, he probably had Cipro or other antibiotics, but he screwed up somehow.
		And I think that'll come out probably within the next year.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but wouldn't we know that?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		In other words, his body would have been anthrax-laden, and wherever it was taken, it would be noticed.
unidentified		They haven't found him yet.
		That's what I'm saying.
		He hasn't been discovered.
		He's just laying there.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's certainly possible.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		We know it was a military-grade anthrax, and it would be very, very dangerous to handle without becoming infected.
unidentified		And he's in a very remote location.
unidentified		Also, I believe in the near future, Chandra Levy will be found, and I believe she's in Virginia.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You do?
unidentified		Yes, definitely.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All of this comes to you in what manner?
unidentified		Oh, I've been doing this for many, many years.
unidentified		You would call it clairvoyance, third eye visions, symbols, etc.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Do you do it professionally or just not yet?
unidentified		But I've had some pretty good hits, including the earthquake.
		Although, well, I guess I could call it a hit from the 6.8.
		I had the numbers right on the 6.8.
		I was told my family members, et cetera, friends, it would be within three to five days.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Well, look, we're short on time.
		81 is your number.
		We'll watch for an earthquake in Finland.
		All right.
unidentified		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you for the call.
		Take care.
		More predictions on Monday.
unidentified		Can a guy from anywhere go to sleep a paul and wake up a million from the high desert.
		And a kid without a second.
		Only in America level up for two at the end.

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