Art Bell’s 2002 episode kicks off with ocean engineers Paulina Zielitsky and Paul Weinzweig revealing mysterious underwater structures near Cuba—pyramids, roads, and geometric formations at 630 meters depth—sparking debates over artificial origins or intelligent natural reshaping. Meanwhile, Dutch cardiologist Dr. Pim Van Lommel’s Lancet study on 344 cardiac arrest survivors challenges medical dogma by showing 18% experienced near-death visions with no physiological link, though critics dismiss them as hallucinations. Callers dive into wild predictions: a "Magog attack" (silicon-based life forms) in April, SETI breakthroughs, smallpox terrorism, and nanobot-driven "Project Day Spring," hinting at government conspiracies. Bell’s skepticism clashes with fringe theories—like oil wars, India-Pakistan dam blasts, or Finland’s predicted earthquake—while a cab driver from India claims clairvoyant foresight of regional floods. The episode blends paranormal intrigue, geopolitical speculation, and energy doomsday warnings, leaving listeners questioning reality’s boundaries. [Automatically generated summary]
Well, the story that was broken nationally here on this program now continues as Linda Moltenhow, our science reporter, our environmental documentary winner, reporter on this program, gosh, for years and years now, broke on the show months and months ago regarding what seems to be off the coast of Cuba and about a half mile below the water, impossibly a half mile below the water.
And then a further report on the Lancet article, the amazing, amazing Lancet article on the possibility of some sort of life after death, some sort of consciousness that appears separate from brain function.
It's all very fascinating.
And here with the beginning of it is Linda Bolton Howe from Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.
Well, you know, this past May, Reuters News Service first carried an international story about the first hints of a discovery of unusual structures at 2,200 feet below Cuba's western tip.
And the ocean engineer who found those structures is Paulina Zielitsky, who is a partner with her husband, Paul Weinzweig, in a Canadian company called Advanced Digital Communications, or ADC, that has offices in both Victoria, British Columbia, and Havana, Cuba.
Their specialty is deep ocean exploration.
And Paulina told Reuters this past spring that she had high-resolution side-scan sonar images of, quote, a huge land plateau with clear images of what appears to be man-made, large-size architectural designs partly covered by sand.
From above, the shapes resemble pyramids, roads, and buildings, unquote.
And if you go to my website, earthfiles.com, right now, the top headline and also the top headline in Science has one of those actual side-scan sonar images right now of that exact description.
And I talked with Paulina about it.
As you look at it, it is without doubt to me, I've seen a lot of side scan now in the past year working on this story.
This is the first time that I've had a chance to see one of her original Exploramar side scan.
And you have to admit when you look at it that you're looking at a lot of 90-degree angles and what look like structures.
Well, as you look at that image, and so does she, and so does this story as we unfold this further, that there are more things besides this side scan, but it's the first time in seeing it, you are looking at an image that sort of reinforces what she had originally said in the spring.
Now, on December 21st, a few days ago, one of those sonar images was released by the Prinsa Latina press in Cuba.
The article was entitled, Geology or Archaeology, Which Is It?
Referring to the structures in the sonar images.
This article described Paulina Zelitsky's efforts over the past year to get sonar and videotape images by a remotely operated vehicle known as an ROV.
Prince Alutina also interviewed Dr. Gabina LaRosa.
He's an archaeologist with the Cuban National Museum of Sciences who has been studying the ADC sonar and videotape images taken this July.
And in this latest article, he suggests that the megalithic structures could be natural rock or natural rock used for construction by an intelligent civilization or artificial structures created by intelligence.
But only one week before this article, another controversial story had appeared on December 14th in Prince Latina and on the internet, which announced that archaeologist Dr. Gabino La Rosa calls for prudence, this was the word used, about possible discovery of a submerged city in the western waters of Cuba.
The article's implication was that this might not be much of a discovery of this now famous megalithic underwater site.
And that set off a small firestorm of protest on that island, including scientists at the museum.
Now, here is Paulina Zielitsky, a couple of days ago, talking to me about both the controversy of what Prince Elatina did and what the current status is now of her own research.
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This article was written by a person who never met or spoke to any of the people involved, to any of the scientists involved.
So this person, I believe it's a woman, she called me later on after a big topology.
This person didn't have real access to any of the information.
But what is very important is to point out that we haven't made a definite conclusion because we don't have sufficient data.
We have a number of hypotheses.
And very strong hypothesis, one of the hypotheses that is very strong in our opinion is that these structures are natural but reshaped and accommodated by intelligent beings.
We couldn't take this sample because to take this sample you have to drill in the granite and it's very difficult.
But we are building a robot that is walking on the bottom and this robot will have all stability required in order to drill for samples, in order to cut, in order to remove.
It will be first in the world a robot that is built for deep water archaeology.
All kinds of difficult, hard tasks for deep water archaeology.
The robot is designed to work at the depth of 2,000 meters.
Well, they expressed their interest for many years now to partner with us in this project, but there are some governmental and political complications.
Now, for anybody listening who may be interested or know someone who might be in communicating with ADC about shares or partnership in this very interesting deep underwater research of the megalithic structures off the western tip of Cuba, Paulina Zelitsky and Paul Weinsweig have provided this address and fax number for communication.
You can also read this at earthfiles.com, my top headline story that includes also a map and the photograph of Paulina sitting at her computer with the pyramidal object.
And tomorrow, perhaps, Art, if all goes well, I'd hope for tonight, but I may have some other images that I will be posting with this story that I might be getting that the scientists at the museum in Cuba have been examining.
That's what went into my mind when I said this is exciting because the idea that they could be able to be rolling around among the structures that you can see in the side scan sonar image that I've got right now will be really something.
And because they are trying to do this now themselves, because of all of the legal complexities that they have run into in trying to put together all of the, they tried originally exclusive deals with some companies and there's legal problems between Cuba and some of the work that they were trying in the United States.
Linda's got Another interview for you on that subject, and after interviewing Pam Reynolds, that subject is so dear and close to my heart that I'm pretty curious, very curious actually, what they've got to say.
And by the way, I've got a little kind of follow-up to the whole Lance thing myself.
A very interesting fact about the 18% I think who had the near-death experience, or you could call it the death experience, there's an odd fact about that 18% that I just learned today.
I'm Art Bell.
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I don't know if you've seen the side-scan sonar photos or renderings, but it sure does look like a city.
It looks like buildings and streets.
And it's the first time I've seen what was described.
All right, we're going to move on now.
Remember the fascinating interview with Pam Reynolds?
Pam Reynolds, who died?
No brain waves, no neural activity, no blood in her body, no life.
She was dead.
They did it to clip an aneurysm.
It was a remarkable interview.
Remarkable.
She accounted for the entire hour she was out and gone.
Well, The Lancet released an article just about the same time, and Linda Moulton Howe, coincidentally, truly it is coincidentally, happens to have an interview with somebody on that subject.
It is fascinating, and she'll have that in a moment.
Now, once again, with some pretty interesting stuff coming up, here it is from Kordoff Hill, Linda Holton.
Well, that December 15th article you were referencing in the Lancet Medical Journal was entitled, quote, Near-Death Experience in Survivors of Cardiac Arrest.
The authors are Dutch cardiologists led by Dr. Pim Van LaMel in the Division of Cardiology at the hospital Rinstadt in Arnhem, the Netherlands.
Dr. Van Lommel has been a cardiologist for 25 years.
He and his colleagues began their article with this statement, quote, Some people report a near-death experience known as an NDE after a life-threatening crisis.
We aim to establish the cause of this experience and assess factors that affected its frequency, depth, and content, unquote.
For 12 years, Dr. Von Lommel and his team studied 344 patients who had cardiac arrest and were successfully resuscitated in 10 Dutch hospitals.
Of those 344, 18 percent reported a near-death experience.
The researchers concluded, quote, occurrence of the experience was not associated with duration of cardiac arrest or unconsciousness, medication, or fear of death before cardiac arrest, unquote.
And further, in a surprisingly firm conclusion, Dr. Von Lommel wrote, quote, our results show that medical factors can not account for occurrence of NDEs.
Although all patients had been clinically dead, most did not have NDE.
Furthermore, seriousness of the crisis was not related to occurrence or depth of the experience.
If purely physiological factors resulting from cerebral anoxia, which would be lack of blood and oxygen, caused NDE, most of our patients should have had this experience because they all suffered cardiac arrest.
The patient's medication was also unrelated to the frequency of NDE.
Now, one of the most extraordinary cases studied was a 43-year-old man who had cardiac arrest on the street, and here is Dr. Van Lommel to explain what happened.
When he was admitted in the hospital, they had been doing CPR for more than uh half an hour.
He was deeply unconscious and cyanotic when he was admitted in the hospital.
And he was in very bad shape.
He had no blood pressure, no heartbeat, and so they were performing CPR.
And after one and a half hour in the hospital, at last they had blood pressure and heartbeat.
There was brain damage.
So there was no spontaneous respiration, so they had to intubate him.
And when the nurse tried to intubate him, he had to remove the dental prosthesis, put it on the crash car.
And the patient had to be on artificial respiration for more than one week in the ICU.
And then he came back to the cardiac ward, and the first time that the nurse entered his room for giving medication, the patient recognized the nurse and said, Oh, you were the one who was there when I was admitted to the hospital, and you took out my denture, for dental prosthesis, to intubate me.
And he could describe exactly what doctors were there, how they looked like, what the rumors looked like.
And the nurse was so upset because he'd never heard of an NDE before.
So he rang us, and we explained to him, and then we asked him to write down everything what had happened.
And what is doing the perceiving, since it's not an active brain-eye-ear system?
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Exactly.
That means that when there is no activity in the brain, let's say a flat EEG, and people can still have a full consciousness, with cognition, with emotion, with memories from their youth, or for the possibility of perceiving, that it means that there must be something that can be received by your brain.
So there is something out of your body that you can receive in your body by your brain.
Your bottom line from doing this research is that you have at least, in 18% of the cases of the more than 300 cardiac patients that you studied, 18% have some kind of recollection of something happening during a period of time in which they were clinically dead for a period.
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And what we didn't know was there always has been theories about it, that it just is a physiological reaction of anoxia of the brain so a lack of oxygen or that it's some chemical reaction of endomorphines or it is a psychological reaction to death or it is medication and that's what we did in this first prospective study to look if there could be any explanation of having an NDE.
And when you look to the two groups of patients, the 18% who did report some form of memory and the 82% who didn't, there is no difference in medical, psychological, physiological, or pharmacological things.
So in a way you were trying to control for the very arguments that have been made in the past that it was a chemical or some other kind of explanation.
But then it seems that we are left with an even greater question.
Why is it that of these 300 some patients that only 18% had a near-death experience?
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Exactly.
I don't know.
But the only thing we can know is that when it should be a physiological reaction, so due to a lack of oxygen to the brain, then when you have a cardiac arrest, you have no blood pressure, there's no oxygen going to the brain, you lose your consciousness.
And your breathing stops, and your reflexes stops, and everything stops.
And then you have an 80% of people in such situations who have full consciousness.
Another interesting part of your study was the finding that after two years there seemed to be a transformation in the 18% who had the NDE memories, there was a transformation in their relationship to their life and other people and the world around them.
And that by eight years, if I read your data correctly, the NDE actually had an even more increased impact of change, transformation of thought on people after eight years.
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And the main thing is that the life inside changes and the fear of death disappears.
When you talk with that group, do you get any insights from them about why they themselves feel that some sort of philosophical, spiritual transformation continues to increase eight years after an NDE?
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Well, it's the process of that they, first of all, they cannot talk about it.
They are neglected or laughed at by doctors and nurses and family.
And what I write is that individuals, there's a society negative response to NDE, which leads individuals to deny or suppress their experience for fear of rejection of ridicule?
And so they cannot talk about it.
At last, then they trust somebody or find somebody who is open.
Then they can talk about it.
And then the integration starts of the changed inside of losing the fear of death and what is important in life.
Especially those people who had a panoramic life review.
Now, it is, I would think, in a civilization in which there have been many religions who have evolved over the last several thousand years about the moment of death and a transition of consciousness to God in heaven or Allah in heaven or whatever the word.
Now that is the religious context for most of the people on the planet.
Why would anyone then describing a near-death experience ever be treated with ridicule or disbelief?
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Because they're trying to explain for something.
The experience there are no words for and they are talking about meeting deceased relatives, they're talking about celestial landscape, they're talking about being of light.
But isn't that why people are in church to survive death and go to heaven?
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I think perhaps to believe but not to know.
But I know, but you know, if you ever talk to people with an NEE, and you always, whenever you talk to them, also I know Ken Oring as well, and when he talked to people, and we have it here, I'll talk to hundreds of NDEs, you always have the same problem that the people know by size, it is not proven that it's something possible else or beyond the body.
So they neglect it, ignore it.
I say it's not proven, but it is not what you can prove.
As a medical doctor, I don't know.
But what they say, exactly what you say.
That's what they know.
They always say, I don't believe in, let's say, life after death, but I know there is some continuity of me which survives my body.
Over 12 years, Dr. Van Lommel and all of the people who worked on this extremely important research ended up having to do it all as a labor of love because they could not get any funding.
Yes, why is it, as he points out, that there could be anything about near-death experiences that would give any church any problem whatsoever, and yet...
I'm reading here, it's an article about the same report.
In this one, it says, medical explanations cannot account for near-death experiences according to the results of the biggest prospective study to date of patients who were resuscitated after clinical death.
However, patients who reported an NDE were more likely to die soon afterwards.
Dr. Von Lommel and I talked for an hour, and part of the discussion was about this: that within 30 days, the people who had the deepest or what they call the deepest core experience of an NDE were the ones who had the greatest increase in death within 30 days of having the experience.
And when I asked him why, he said he thinks it's because those are people who could let go the easiest because they had the fear of dying.
This is this whole thing, the interview with Pam Reynolds, what you're reporting on, all of it, I think, I think we're moving toward identification scientifically of something separate from brain function.
Well, this story, when you read the whole Lancet article, which I have, and when you read that sentence, our results show that medical factors can not account for occurrence of NDE.
That is a surprisingly firm statement in a journal, a medical journal, The Lancet.
Now, if you can't come up with medical factors, you are into the area of what has been called transcendence.
And transcendence is that description that people have of being out of their body, looking down, seeing bodies, being able to describe tubes, describe corners, describe where that man watched his false teeth be put.
The fellow remembered the lady who removed his false teeth and where she put them and all the rest of it.
This while he is dead as a doornail, and they were working on him for an hour and a half trying to get any sort of signs of life, an hour and a half.
This was at room temperature.
These are astounding stories.
And, you know, the most interesting question right now, aside from the big one, to me, is how come the churches, plural, are disinterested in all of this?
They should be jumping on it.
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Well, those were two amazing reports from Linda Molten Howe.
The images that you're looking for at are on her website at earthfiles.com.
And I don't know whether we've got a link up, but it's earthfiles.com, and they are amazing.
They look like cities.
I understand it's a side-scan sonar, but still, look at those photos.
Well, those images.
Amazing, amazing, amazing.
And the writing and the video and all the rest of it.
And now they're going to send a robot down.
It's just getting pretty good.
And then you listen to the second interview with the doctor.
You know, why don't we do that kind of research here anymore?
Anybody out there wonder about that?
How come we're not doing that kind of research here?
We have Pam Reynolds' story, but nobody's digging into it.
I mean, it's only the biggest question in all of life.
In all of life.
It's the biggest question.
I mean, we're all here for a relatively very short time indeed.
And so, you know, is there anything afterwards?
Or the big blackness?
Well, there's mounting serious scientific evidence that there is something there.
Even I am impressed.
Not easy to impress in this arena.
Believe me, I have doubts.
I've had doubts all my life.
I still have a few, but it's closing in on me and it must be on you too how can you listen to all of this without realizing there is something separate from brain function some consciousness awareness understanding emotion all the things that we call consciousness and we define as ourselves that there is something separate from our brain function now you call it what you want I
I don't blame the doctor for not wanting to say soul or spirit.
You know, but that was a damn good report.
And glad Linda was able to get it on the air.
We've all, I think a lot of you have read about it, but hearing, you know, the doctor who did this was pretty cool.
So, two big stories a-brewin', and in the middle of all this, we are doing predictions for next year.
Now, I will recite to you some of the rest.
I have more predictions that were made, and I will read some of them, and the bonk factor in the ones coming up, I sense psychically, is going to be rather high.
Actually, I know it is, because I've read them.
So, in a few moments, we'll give you some of those, and then we'll begin taking predictions and comments, by the way, if you wish, on the Cuban city, a half mile, I shouldn't call it a Cuban city, on the city off the coast of Cuba, a half mile underwater, and or Linda's incredible report from the article in Lancet on whatever is separate from our brains.
All of that coming up.
Well, just a couple of items before we go to the phones.
Very quickly, China would appear to be moving troops now to try and defuse the crisis between India and Pakistan.
They're actually moving troops along the Sino-Indian border.
Now, that's an interesting move.
What is China about to do?
What would China, you know, if there began a conflict, what would China do?
Would they go in there and start shooting at both sides?
What would they do with their troops?
Is getting China involved in this, even in some, you know, supposedly peacemaking way, is it really a good idea for China to be sending troops to their border?
Doesn't it further inflame the whole thing?
So that puts free nuclear powers in some sort of contention over their really strange times.
And no wonder we're getting the predictions we are, huh?
I thought really hard about that today anyway China trying to intercede but they're doing it with military troops boy President Bush said Friday the U.S. military will not quit the search for Osama bin Laden I understand there's quite a bit of political pressure from the new Afghan government that the U.S. get its butt out of country stop the bombing and we're saying no
we're going to keep up we're going to keep looking for a song and we're going to get him and they're saying well yeah but you've got most of the al-qaeda kind of troops you've broken the back of al-qaeda you know really why don't you stop the bombing and we're saying well no we're really not going to do that until we get Osama and I'm sure we're not going to stop the bombing and stop the cave to cave searches and all the rest of it until we get us his butt looks like the president is committed to do that and I hope he stays committed to do that
doesn't give in to any political pressure the kidnapped 16 month old girl back with mom now that's almost a miracle buffalo is under oh my god buffalo nearly seven feet of snow now in buffalo and more on the way did you hear me seven feet of snow my god buffalo does get a lot of snow but this is over the top
for buffalo for sure now if you'll go to my website one of my listeners we have a lot of uh listeners in buffalo new york in fact that's probably about all they have to do right now please listen to this program and others like it right i imagine that's all they can do if you'll go to what's new and click on snow in
Buffalo, Ken Spruch, S-P-R-U-C-H, sent us a couple of photographs that he just took there in Buffalo.
I would presume of one of a stop sign and the other of his house and his car.
His car looks like it's in a snow tunnel.
So that's what's going on in Buffalo, right?
The seven feet of snow.
Man, that's a lot of snow.
I remember, I'm sure you do when you were a kid if you lived in snow country, and I did.
18 inches, even 30 inches of snow was awesome.
Absolutely awesome.
I mean, that was a major big storm.
Try and picture in your mind seven feet of snow.
That's way over the top.
Take a look at the photographs and then imagine seven feet of snow.
And I guess the forecast is not that great.
So the governor has ordered troops there to assist very weary plow crews.
I don't know how they're even beginning to plow there.
These are amazing photographs and what they're going, it'd be fun to talk to somebody from Buffalo, see if you can get through about how it's going.
Man, that's a lot of snow.
I have never experienced that much snow and I've lived in snow country all over.
In Alaska, in the northeast part of the country, but seven feet.
Woo hoo hoo hoo.
First time caller line, you're on the air.
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Hello.
hello hello yes sir um i'm going to talk about a near-death experience oh you had one uh Yes.
And what happened was I was in the hospital, a young man, for appendicitis, and stamped all over my chart and read was allergic to penicillin.
And a foreign intern came in.
He was supposed to go to the room across the hall, came into my room and gave me a million units of penicillin.
You know, normally when you leave, these may be crazy explanations, but you know, when you normally live on a trip, you wonder if, did you turn off the electricity, did you do this, did you do that?
I was assured by this inner voice that everything was going to be all right, that they were going to be taken care of, that I didn't have to worry about them.
Yeah, in other words, as you look around you now, you have what you consider life.
You have colors, bursts of colors and images and sounds and input and everything that makes this world look so colorful and beautiful.
But I can understand what you're saying on the other side.
This looks like it's all grayed out, you know, or blacked out like death.
And that appears to be the new reality with all the colors and the true meaning.
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And the hardest thing is to, when you have a true spiritual experience, if that's what you want to call it, if you live to be a thousand, you'll never forget it, because you can go back to that time and re-experience it.
But the interesting thing also, though, it's hard to explain spiritual things in normal words.
And I'll try to explain if you could take a rose and put it into a tea kettle, and then the steam coming out of that tea kettle now could reform that rose.
You've seen steam come out of a tea kettle, how it vibrates, or anything in front of it.
Now that's how flowers looked on the other side.
I mean, literally, everything was vibrating with life.
Oh, well, you've had, thank you very much, lots and lots of inexplicable experiences.
You know, the one thing that bugs me is the majority of people don't have NDEs.
Of 344, only 18% in that study.
So that means the majority of people don't.
So where do they go?
You know, if these other people are going to the light and the tunnel and the relatives and even people you don't know, like that man just said, then where is the majority going?
I saw a night of the living dead, and you know, the living were bashing the dead in with shovels and picks, and blasting them to smithereens with shotguns.
Is it going to come down to that?
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We don't know if they can be stopped or what, because obviously nothing like this has happened before.
This is one of the reasons I'm going to be cremated.
I have no intent whatsoever of scratching my way out of the dirt, pushing my way past the worms with my bony flesh, a torn body, whatever's left of it, to get up and plague the living.
That really is.
He's right about one thing.
That's right out of the movies.
And the movie was The Living Dead, and then several sequels after it.
Night of the Living Dead, I believe, is actually the name of the movie.
Predicting all night long and anything else you want to do.
Friday night, Saturday morning.
That's what they're for.
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Tonight featuring a replay of Coast to Coast AM from December 28, 2001.
So I came in here, sweet lady.
And she's been your mistress co-call.
Crystal ball on the cable.
Showing the future to the past Same cat with them evil eyes And I knew it was a spousy cat She's just a devil woman With evil on her mind Beware the devil woman She's gonna get you She's just a devil woman With evil on her mind Beware the devil woman She's gonna get you from behind
Get me the ring on your finger And with the clap of a hand He has landed as an only son His mother and father said What a lovely boy We'll teach him what we learned Oh
yes, just what we learned We'll dress him up warmly And we'll send him to school It'll teach him how to fight for being Nobody through Oh, oh, oh Oh, what a lonely boy
Oh, what a lonely boy Oh, what a lonely boy In the summer of 53 His mother brought in a sister And she told him We must attend to her need She's so much younger than you
Well, he ran around the hall And he cried Oh, oh, oh You're listening to Art Bell somewhere in time on Premiere Radio Networks.
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And, you know, I noticed that she was kind of befuddled as to how many religious people could not allow for...
Well, I can tell you why.
There's a lot of groups.
You know, there are Jehovah's Witnesses and the Seventh-day Adventists among them who believe that, you know, according to that one scripture they point to, that the dead know nothing.
A lot of psychics say that that's how they discern where these things are going to occur, you know, by looking at a map or running their hand over a map or whatever.
I had a message from her manager that she'd liked to be on, and so we'll obviously send one back, say, we'd love to have you.
That'd be great.
You know, it's like nothing ever happens between the Christmas and the New Year.
And New Year is when everything, the world comes to life again.
Have you ever noticed?
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Yeah, sure, sure.
And before I go here, I've got to say that, you know, when I was about nine or ten and some Velvet Morning, I was just sure that I was going to marry Nancy, so I hope to talk to her when she gets on.
No, I was going to tell you, I want to predict that I think Ed Daines, if he would take and remote view feelings, human emotion, in the way of love, instead of looking at a soul as light or energy.
Now, wait a minute, this is not sounding like a prediction.
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I think it would be if he would remote view the feelings.
Well, okay, I'll go so far to say that I predict that Ed Dames and his sciatec crew will remote view love as a feeling, and he'll break through the veil where he gets, where he says like angels won't let him pass.
Well, then maybe when Ed tackles the concept of love, some sudden veil will drop and he will come back with some all-encompassing understanding and tell us all kinds of things.
Sure, I'll ask him.
You bet.
Bust of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified
Hi, Art.
Hello.
Let's start with a prediction that you bonked.
Number two, nuclear explosion at the Arctic Circle?
I predict that the administration, the president and the vice president, will get caught up in a scandal involving Enron and other energy issues that evolved from that closed-door meeting that occurred way early in the beginnings of the administration.
You know, try and truly go to your psychic setter and make these predictions based on something other than some tertiary, small surface influence like politics or somebody you hate or something like that.
Try and make your prediction based on some sort of psychic insight.
Otherwise, it's totally contaminated and probably you're only calling up to be heard.
But the fight between the grizzly bear and the Bigfoot will cause so much noise and so much commotion that people from as much as a mile away will hear the commotion and they'll know there's some kind of major battle going on.
Somebody from Buffalo is never going to get through.
So why don't I do this?
One of y'all in Buffalo, fast blast me, your phone number.
I really would like to chat for a minute with somebody sitting in seven feet of snow.
I cannot fathom that.
I mean, I remember big, big snowstorms when I was a kid.
You know, Connecticut, New Jersey, but mostly up in Connecticut.
You know, we have some doozers, but seven feet of snow, that's really over the top in more ways than one.
And so if somebody in Buffalo would fast blast me their phone number, I will call you because obviously the odds of your being able to get through here are kind of slim.
And he just went in and took the tickets and handed me the envelope that they came in.
And the front of it just looks as normal.
It's got a picture of the Greyhound logo on the front with his gait and time.
But you turn it over on the back.
And half of the picture, three-quarters of the picture, is covered with dark gray skies and an open field with a huge silver flying saucer with a button to the right.
It says, got news, 1800 to collect, save a buck or two.
I had a dream that there was a lady over in a Middle Eastern lady who was speaking to a group of people, and all of a sudden her best friends turned around and pulled out automatic weapons and killed her.
And two days later, Indira Gandhi was murdered by her sick bodyguards.
So it was kind of spooky.
I didn't really understand it at the time until I explained it to my mother.
All the federal government's got to do, in my opinion, if they don't want those kinds of problems, is just to prohibit any sensitive facility from using Windows.
Yeah, but hacking is going to happen no matter what.
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There's a myth that there's no such thing as a secure platform, because you can make a platform secure.
It's just, you know, it's like all these people that were You know, platforms are also designed, I would say, a primary directive of a platform would be the ease of operation for the operator.
Well, it involves people that are related to prominent politicians.
I'm going to predict that there are going to be compromising photos, not pasties, but actual ones, of one of the first daughters that's going to show up on the internet somewhere.
Because there's already been some riot.
I hear there have been rewards put out for this kind of thing on the internet on some of these sites.
All right, well, listen, I appreciate your call, and I'll check for some numbers in Buffalo here, and we'll talk to some people who are really under all seven feet of this.
Can you imagine?
You're probably wondering who they ticked off up there.
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Mostly it was, they went home from work early on Thursday, most people did.
And then what happened was everything was closed.
So as a result of vacation time, school being out and less traffic, that type of thing, we ended up with less congestion as opposed to last year when it was just, oh, it was mayhem last year.
But it just worked out better this year because of less traffic and people being able to pitch it and help.
That's one thing it did bring out in people was the 9-11 effect.
Yeah, but this is like enough snow so that it's coming up to your windows or, you know, covering half your window or maybe your whole window or something.
Call me old-fashioned, but I disagree with you, and I think the world could not handle it.
And if you had been sitting in the seat that I've been in for all these years and talked to as many fundamentalists as I have talked to, I think you would hold my opinion as well.
Trust me when I tell you that a high enough percentage of the people who would receive this news would view these whatever as devils, as representatives of the dark force, and you just can't imagine what would happen.
Based on information that is already, intelligence already available, when the first case is finally confirmed, they will finally shut down the border across Mexico.
They will establish a kind of bio-DMZ 200 miles wide to contain it.
And my prediction for the year 2002, by the same time this year or this coming year, the government's going to start a project called Project Day Spring.
And what this beginning project is, is going to go into a 10-year cycle and will ultimately end in the year 2012.
Basically what Project Day Spring is, is things are going to get so bad on the planet Earth that somebody's going to have to develop a nonviolent weapon, but one that has nanobot gas in it.
And these nanobots are in a bomb form or aerosol form.
Basically designed to create a human 3D internet, if you will.
Basically what will be for those who are survived after the Third World War, what it will be, will be like a giant 3D holographic internet for everybody to exist in.
And these nanobots will actually go into the atoms in your body, every single one, and basically convert those into basically a UFO, a starship of some sort.
So that you could take every particle in your body, you can teleport anywhere in the world.
I have a couple of premonitions or whatever you want to call them.
I actually sent you an email back on 25th of September stating a couple of premonitions that I had had.
And I know you get thousands of emails, so you probably didn't even see them.
One of them happened, one of the things that I predicted then happened, and that was the plane that blew up that your government said was an accident, but it wasn't.
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We're doing predictions for the year 2002 officially recorded and numbered predictions.
We'll do this through New Year's Eve the end of New Year's Eve and I will be here for New Year's Eve live so I hope you are too.
If you haven't yet recorded your prediction that will be your last opportunity back into the unknown night we go somebody from Lackawanna New York says Conrad says I believe the U.S. government is responsible for these seven feet of snow in Buffalo.
He thinks it's harp produced or some such.
Now that'd get your ire up wouldn't it if you're in Buffalo and somehow you found out that some little ray that they shot somewhere or another did it East of the Rockies you're on the air.
Yeah, well, this is, it's almost as if you're a gentle soul and your scope is going to widen.
It's almost as if the veil is going to be thinning.
So it's somewhat of in the realm of oneness or seeing the part of you of where you fit in the big whole.
But a lot of the guests that you've had, there's, if you just had that experience, you could understand it a little bit more, what they're talking about.
And I wanted to talk to you about a couple things first before I make my prediction.
Okay.
And it's, have you ever seen a sunburst?
I was watching the NASA television TV and there showed a little thing saying a sunburst in a picture, you know, how it, I guess, looks from space.
And I started looking at it, and I see the sun coming up from the horizon of Earth, and what looked like a bunch of octagon rays, I would say, coming down towards, you know, Earth.
I know that if you're out on the ocean, there is a phenomena that occurs at about sunset, just at the very moment that as you look at the very far horizon, and if it's very clear, just as the sun drops, the instant it drops below the sea level, you can see this incredible green flash sometimes every now and then.
Okay, the answer to your question is I have never experienced it, although I know what it is, and I've talked to plenty of people who have, I was like, wow.
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And then at the end, they showed, after it cleared or whatever, they showed like this red dot towards her.
Anyway, it was something else.
And chemtrails, you know, you were talking to Whitney Streeber, I guess, on December the 17th, I believe.
And you talked to him saying that there was a bunch of activity going on over your area.
Well, our leaders are going to find it necessary to do it because this old oil game is just about to play out.
Well, I've been in the oil field my whole life, and I know that it's a lot of politics and a bunch of game playing, you know, and there's not really a problem other than the problem that they make theirselves, you know.
This whole oil thing is going to play out shortly.
Now, there's arguments about how many reserves we have, but there's very little argument about how quickly the world, and specifically, by the way, the U.S., is using oil.
And it is a finite source.
So all kinds of things are going to begin to happen, you know, as we begin to get short on oil.
There will be wars over oil.
Wars which we will no doubt participate in.
I mean, oil, we must have it.
And since they are not moving toward alternative fuels, there will be a series of very serious crisis-type events that will occur before we begin moving in that direction, because, of course, we operate by crisis, but it's coming.
As sure as that sun comes up and goes down every day so far, it's coming.
The problem, well, the good news is that the war will probably be over within two years, but the United States is finally going to break out some of their super-secret weapons like your big flying triangles.
And The other dire part of it, I think we're going to have some fighting here on the soil of the United States, which is going to change our attitudes.
I think something's going to be happening to the moon in the coming year, and it's going to affect all of our tides and the water all around the world.
Now, I want you to go to your psychic center to get these predictions.
Anybody telling jokes or anything like that?
i'm not going to report it because you're going to drag down our psychic average and it's coming up in the world although you need to think this year's coming predictions are going to be even half correct because if they are Oh my, it's going to be some year.
I would say we're generally right on target for the number of predictions taken tonight and the number we will take on New Year's Eve itself.
I predict in the coming year that I would say enough controversy comes to light about Bill and Hillary, specifically Bill, selling secrets to the Chinese, which is why their technology is going to enable them to go to the moon so easily.
And who would you imagine would, in essence, replace Yasser Art?
I mean, a lot of people think Yasser Arafat's nothing but a mouthpiece anyway.
So would it make much difference, you know, in the big scheme of things, you know, the Palestinian struggle, the Israeli staunch defense, and the fighting that would continue and continue?
Would it change anything if Yasser was no longer there?
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No, I don't think it would change anything, quite honestly.
And this has been debated quite a bit in the media as of today.
I have heard that it really won't make much of a difference if he was replaced or not.
We never heard from him again, which you would expect.
And there are no numbers you can call up there at Area 51 to ask about such.
Now, there was his girlfriend or wife, I think it was a wife, and she was on her way or was going to Area 51 to try and find him, nor have we ever heard from her again.
So, you know, if it was a hoax, there was more than one involved.
It worked out very well indeed.
You can either imagine it was a hoax or it wasn't.
Yeah, the weather up here in Wasilla, where I'm from, it's been negative 15 for the last month and a half until Christmas, and then it jumped up to about 40 degrees.
Well, I think there's a good chance that what you're saying is probably dead right.
Thank you very much.
It'll be number 78, Mississippi Floods.
And that would go with the increased weird weather we're having, all the weather that's upside down, wrong, and very violent, and so I wouldn't be surprised at all.