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Coast to Coast AM with Art Bell - Sean David Morton - Morton's Predictions and Listener Predictions for 2002 (incomplete)
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This is Coast to Coast A.M. with Art Bell from the Kingdom of Nive.
art bell
The very darkest of predictions made by all of you in the first hour of the program tonight.
Now we'll see what somebody who makes his living making predictions has to say.
Sean, David, Morton's coming right up.
He's really something.
Lots and lots of hits, has made all kinds of successful predictions.
And I guess that's what separates the amateur from the pro.
Since studying at the British International School of Cairo, Egypt, then at Stanford, graduating from USC with majors, political science and fine arts, Sean David Morton has been an investigative journalist and writer, director, producer for TV and films.
He's renowned futurist, intuitive, and earth-sensitive, with many of his stunning and startling predictions made right here on this program since he first appeared with me ten years ago in 1991.
That is a long time ago.
Sean was instrumental in bringing Area 51 to your attention out there.
Did work for Strange Universe, did the first stories on the Chuba Kabra and UFO contactee Adrian.
I remember that.
Has written, produced, and consulted for sightings.
Now it can be told, hard copy, unsolved mysteries.
And it just goes on and on.
I'm sure you've heard the resume before.
Studied with the Dalai Lama in India.
He's got a very, very interesting background and is involved very much now in remote viewing.
And actually, at the moment, he is over the hill for me, just over the hill for me.
Over the hump in Paramp, as they say.
He's over the hump in Las Vegas at a hotel, but prepared to make predictions for you, discuss his hits, his misses, and his predictions for the coming year.
And no matter who you are, you really do have to admit, with all that's going on right now, latest rumblings between India and Pakistan, really awful.
Awful.
Two nuclear powers fully prepared to use what they have.
And the 9-11 war, I'm going to call it.
And the threat to America, you know, that's attendant with it.
And oh, by the way, they extended the threat to Americans through, what, January 2nd or something?
Obviously worried about the new year.
Sunway coming up in a moment is Sean David Morton.
unidentified
*Rainful sound*
art bell
And now, over the hump from Verump in Las Vegas is Sean David Morton.
Hi, Sean.
sean david morton
Hi.
Live from Caesars Palace, Nevada.
art bell
Is that where you are, Caesars?
sean david morton
Caesars Palace here.
art bell
Real style.
sean david morton
It's very, very nice.
We came out here actually because USC and the University of Utah were actually playing what became the Las Vegas Bozo Bowl out here.
art bell
I see.
sean david morton
Because my fiancé, Melissa, actually went to the University of Utah.
And, of course, I went to USC.
So we came out here to see this horrible football game.
art bell
So you're going to get married, huh?
sean david morton
Yeah, it looks that way.
And actually, we actually met through your show, strangely enough.
art bell
We met through my program.
unidentified
Absolutely.
sean david morton
So I have that to thank you for as well.
She was a listener on the show, and she contacted a friend of mine who was an astrologer that I'd recommended.
And the astrologer friend of mine, Stacey Dean, said, well, your charts are fairly compatible.
And then we actually met at a conference, I think it was December of 98, which was actually here at Caesars Dallas.
art bell
Boy, you're going to owe me big for this.
I owe you big, Art.
sean david morton
I'm sorry, man.
I owe you big.
I don't know if that's good or bad.
I don't know if she gets the ring on her finger and I get one in my nose.
art bell
We'll think of something later.
I'm sure we'll think of something.
sean david morton
But you do have some, I actually shipped them up to Premiere up in Oregon.
I have some movies for you.
I'm on the award-nominating committee for the Academy, for the Writers' Guild and the Screen Actors Guild.
So you've got a whole bunch of first-run videos on their way to you.
art bell
Wow.
sean david morton
Because they're shipping me all these movies.
I mean, I've got a stack of about 20 movies that I'm supposed to watch and then vote on.
And what the heck.
art bell
That's a big honor.
sean david morton
I slipped in a Britney Spears DVD for you, too.
So that's all in the package, too.
art bell
We'll see if it ever makes it past Oregon.
sean david morton
Yeah, she's got it up at Premiere, and I've got a couple of other movies, too.
I've got The Royal Tannon Bombs and Evolution, and I'm not sure if you've seen any of them, but they're on their way to you.
art bell
Oh, wonderful.
Thank you.
So you advertise tomorrow's headlines today.
unidentified
Indeed.
art bell
How does one discern tomorrow's headlines?
sean david morton
Well, the biggest thing about what I've been doing since 1993, and actually when I originally came on your show about 10 years ago, it was mostly when we were right at the cutting edge of Area 51.
And, of course, this was about two years before X-Files and sightings.
art bell
That's before the whole genre.
sean david morton
Oh, yeah, and your program was so much the spur for so much of an awakening and enlightenment and an opening of consciousness beginning in the 1990s and then going through the whole rest of the decade.
art bell
Yeah, it was the anchor for all of that.
sean david morton
And then I guess one of my first major national predictions that I made was the San Francisco earthquake on October 17th of 1989.
And I'd actually taken a large group of people up to Mount Shasta to do a series of meditations to see if there was some way that we could avert the quake or literally drill energy into the planet to somehow soften the impact.
And this is one of the first things that made national news because we were in Mount Shasta and one of the reporters of the San Francisco Chronicle at that time.
art bell
Were you drilling?
sean david morton
No, no, no.
There's a prayer technique that one can use, that you can use a group of people and actually use a meditative technique to, I guess, very much like acupuncture needles in the body.
You try to drill, psychically speaking, sort of golden needles into the planet to try to divert energy.
And we've done this, I feel, successfully in numbers.
art bell
Well, you know, the skeptics out there would say the following.
You know, you predict something is going to happen at Shasta, let's say.
Well, it didn't happen.
And then you go and you prevent that from occurring.
sean david morton
Well, what happened was that in order to work the energy of Northern California, you go to Mount Shasta.
There's an energy vortex at Shasta, which then operates the vortex.
But my prediction was that there would be a massive earthquake in the 7.0 range within a 60-mile radius of San Francisco the last two weeks of October of 1989.
And that was one of my first major hits.
And since then, since writing a manuscript for a conference back in 1992, September 17th, called the Millennium Factor, and it was actually in that manuscript that I did everything from predict not only Clinton's election, but Ross Perot re-entering the presidential race, the exact percentage that Ross Perot would get.
art bell
Oh, I know.
You hit all that on the nose.
sean david morton
And the percentage that Clinton would win by.
And also, interestingly enough, and this was something that was just that I really just freaked out about just in the last week and a half or so, was that one of the things that I kept seeing, and this had directly to do with Osama bin Laden as being what I call one of the, I guess you could call antichrist figures that were coming up in the future.
And this face that I kept seeing around the turn of the century that was responsible for all this terror in the United States and was the leader of a terrorist network all around the world.
And this face was so clear to me that I worked with a friend of mine, Steve Hills, who lived up the street from me in Hermosa Beach, who actually worked as a police artist.
And we actually came up with a sketch of this face, the large eyes, the sort of large lips, what looked like an indentation on the side of the face.
And then in 1997, when I finally saw him on the TV, 97 or 98, I think it was 98, I think, when I saw him on the TV.
And then I started writing my newsletter.
Look, this man, this Osama bin Laden character, this is going to be the guy that's responsible for terrorist attacks against the United States, which will close down the aeronautic infrastructure of the U.S., specifically aeronautical attacks, blowing up buildings, blowing up aircraft.
And the one feature that I'd seen was this, I kept seeing him shaking his fist at the West, and I kept seeing a gold ring with a red stone in the ring itself.
And this is one of the things that I put in my 92 manuscript, which was this face with a thing that said wanted, dead or alive, the Antichrist.
And then it had him holding up this gold ring with the red stone.
art bell
Yeah, I've seen it.
sean david morton
And I literally, about a week and a half ago, when they finally showed that videotape of the interview, I'd only seen him holding up his right hand with a microphone in his hand or in combat fatigues or whatever.
But there was a series in the videotape where he suddenly then held up his left hand, and you, clear as day, see this gold ring with this red stone in it.
And I remember jumping out of my chair and pointing at the TV and jumping up and down.
And I had some friends over saying, this is it.
That's the ring that I saw.
So it was just another confirmation of my drawing of this red ring.
And a lot of people who've watched the videotape recently have actually called me and commented and said, there was the red ring that you saw on his hand.
And we saw it on the videotape.
So in the process of this, of my writing this down in 1993, there were so many, when I started the Prophecy Research Institute and started publishing the Delphi Associates newsletter, there were just so many people that were at that time, if you remember, predicting that California was going to fall into the ocean and that there would be a whole series of kind of massive mega quakes that were going to fracture America.
art bell
No, absolutely.
sean david morton
And I didn't see it.
I mean, it was the one thing.
art bell
I recall, I recall.
sean david morton
And I said, well, here's what's going to happen.
You're going to see earthquakes in Flagstaff and Arizona, which happened.
And then you're going to see quakes in Southern California in the Palmdale, Northridge area.
And then that was another one that garnered a lot of national attention because I predicted the Northridge quake.
I actually missed the date of the quake by, I think, 10 days.
And I had people threatening to kill me.
And they knew where I lived, and they were going to blow my head off and all this stuff.
And then the quake happened like 10 days later.
And so it was one of those scenarios where it's horrible, and you're like, oh, no.
And at the same time, you're like, well.
art bell
What is it, Sean, that these people are, I mean, what are they suggesting they would blow your head off for?
Are they suggesting that you caused it?
sean david morton
No, because I was wrong about predicting it.
They thought, because the quake was 10 days later than I thought, because I said the quake was going to happen between December 25th and 2016.
art bell
Yeah, but within 10 days is I mean, I can't imagine them getting that angry over that.
sean david morton
You know, it's just there's nutty people out there.
But anyway, so the idea was that to answer your original question about doing this, what I do is I work directly with maps.
And I've been on television a number of times with this where I simply go into a meditative state and I focus on the maps and I run my hands over the maps.
art bell
And what is it that you feel with your hands?
In other words, when you get to a place where there's going to be a problem, what do you actually describe to me where you feel?
sean david morton
It's a physical spike of energy.
It's literally a disturbance in the force, if you will.
It's almost like there's an energy that comes off the map that just comes up and it almost feels like a bite, literally like being stung by something.
art bell
And what do you think the source of the energy that's causing you to feel that is?
sean david morton
I'm not sure.
There's parts of this that I don't even understand myself in regards to how I do what I do.
art bell
I know, but that's got to be something that you wonder about, Sean.
If there's an energy, then the chief question number one is, where is it coming from?
What is causing Sean's hand to go, oh my God, look at this?
sean david morton
Well, I tune into the planet itself, and I do a lot of daily meditations that are directly connected to the core of the planet as a source of energy and as a source of, I guess you could say, light and heat on a spiritual level.
And I guess it's just that sensitivity to the planet.
And then when I run my hands over the maps and then that energy comes up, the way that I've been able to do it is that I just try to break it down.
It's one of the things that I teach in My classes that I try to show people that everybody has this ability, and it's just a matter of focusing that ability, sort of putting the blinders on, if you will, and focusing that ability into trying to get specific information.
So, whenever I feel running my hands over the maps, whenever I feel this, I'll focus on it.
And focusing on it sometimes comes in the terms of, let's say, for example, if I feel what feels like earthquake activity, I'll feel a rumbling deep within the earth, and then I'll go maybe December, January, February, March, and then that energy will rise, and there'll be an event window, if you will, literally a plateau, what I call an event horizon, of a period of time.
It's usually anywhere between 10 days to two weeks or so, where you then have an event horizon for that particular event, and then the energy then slopes down the other side.
art bell
Why is there a window?
In other words, I know that for psychics, for remote viewers, timelines are the most single, difficult thing to nail down exactly.
So you come up with a window.
How do you do that?
sean david morton
I think it just has something to do with an interaction of consciousness.
I think that it's the nature of Time as we know it and the nature of consciousness itself.
And I guess because time is an agreed-upon reality, I mean, if we both agree that it's approximately 11.25, then it's 11.25.
And of course, another time zone it would be different.
It's all an agreed-upon reality.
The idea is you've got about 6 billion people on the planet who are all holding hands, walking backwards, literally creating the universe as they get there, which is sort of a quantum physics concept.
And I believe that the future as we know it is being directly shaped by the mass consciousness of some 6 billion people on the planet, but with an overmind, if you will.
And you can call it God or Devil.
art bell
Can I stop here for a second?
unidentified
Yes.
art bell
If the future of our planet is being determined by those upon it, what they're thinking, the mass consciousness, now I grant you that I only began taking predictions from the public an hour before you came on.
You didn't happen to hear it, did you?
sean david morton
I couldn't.
I couldn't get it on the radio here.
art bell
Okay, good.
Well, that's fine.
Well, of course you can get it there.
It's 720.
sean david morton
Well, I've just got a clock radio actually in here that doesn't, you know, just fries on the AM.
dial.
I'm sorry.
art bell
Boy, it must be fried.
That's 50,000 watts station.
All right, anyway, in the predictions that I got to take, nine of them were dire.
And I mean dire.
Talking about nuclear events, nuclear explosions, Nibaru coming back or news of it, wormwood, the poisoning of the world, depression in Europe, depression in the U.S., Bush out of office by mid-year.
The majority of them, North Pole Civilization found, I mean, pretty dire stuff.
Now, I'll grant you the atmosphere right now here in this country is dire, and a lot's happened, and we see a lot directly ahead.
But boy, people are feeling dark.
sean david morton
Well, I guess the good news is it's not going to come down that way.
It's...
unidentified
When you're...
sean david morton
See, this is the difference between understanding the patterns of the way things work and understanding the unraveling of the nature of time itself and also having, and I think that you probably know this better than anybody else, that there is a I think that there is a great plan that's actually being put into place.
I think a lot of that is actually outlined in ancient monuments such as the pyramids in Shitsenica and the Great Pyramid of Giza.
And since my studies of the Great Pyramid, since I was very young, and my stepfather took us all to Egypt for about a year or so, and my fascination with the pyramids, it's been the timeline that was actually laid out in the pyramids, I think, gives me an idea of the grand picture.
And then it's for me to use my very humble abilities and my connections with spirit to predict what is to come on the Quinta level as well.
art bell
So in 2002, you would say the people making these really dire predictions are off-base.
unidentified
Yes.
sean david morton
There's individualized dire things that happen.
For example, the biggest thing about 2002 is that 2002 is a building year.
It's a foundation year.
It's a, I guess numerologically you can say that 2001 was a three year.
And three mystically represents the child.
It represents the one of the yacht of the masculine, the two of the passive, feminine, submissive, and then the three.
art bell
Which means what?
sean david morton
Which is then the combination of the masculine and the feminine, which is then a combination of the third, which is the child force, if you will.
And so 2001 was represented by childlike rage, by instability in governments, instability in travel, instability in business.
art bell
Well, it lived up to it all.
sean david morton
Companies and corporations making ridiculous decisions, the mass instability that I saw.
art bell
All right, hold on, hold on, hold on.
We're at the bottom of the house.
Since you're in Las Vegas, this one's for you, Sean.
unidentified
Right, like said he's going to set my soul on fire.
art bell
By the way.
unidentified
Got a whole lot of money, but ready.
art bell
Remind me to ask Sean.
He said he won thousands of dollars already in town there using his method.
No absolutely.
unidentified
I'm just the devil in love.
PEBON!
PEBAN!
Oh, I wish that there were more than the 24 hours in the day.
Even if there were 40 more, I wouldn't sleep a minute away.
Oh, the blackjack and poker and the rubber wheel.
A fortune morning, Lord.
From the archives of Coast to Coast AM, Art and Bell describes a rather unfortunate on-air incident.
I've got next to me what's called a cart rack.
Part of it came apart during the break.
art bell
And some, you know, a bunch of carts fell down.
I thought I would fix it.
unidentified
I ran into the other room and got a container of super glue.
So I took a pair of scissors right here and I cut the top off the super glue to get it to flow.
art bell
Well, it flowed, all right.
It flowed all over me.
unidentified
And I think that I've glued my lips together.
This is the dumbest thing that I've ever done by a country mine to actually glued my lips together.
I think I ripped part of my lip off.
I did.
In my panic, I ripped part of my lip off.
Actually, a little piece of my lip in the asteroid here.
art bell
Well, it sure is what everybody says.
Well, if they're so good at what they do, then wow, they go make much money in Las Vegas.
Well, Sean's in Las Vegas.
So how are you doing?
sean david morton
I'm doing great.
We've won $11,000 so far.
art bell
Not so bad.
Are you serious?
sean david morton
Yeah.
unidentified
And that's off of playing roulette, specifically.
sean david morton
What we do is that we actually use a, and this is from way back in the starting back in the 70s and in the 80s, we went up to Reno.
This is, gosh, when was this?
I was actually dating Elizabeth Targ, who was Russell Targ's daughter at the time.
art bell
Oh, yes.
sean david morton
And who's now Dr. Elizabeth Targ, and she's a very, very talented psychiatrist who's working on putting together statistical data of prayer and how prayer actually has helped and aids patients.
art bell
Oh, I'm looking into that really hard right now.
sean david morton
And she would be a great person to have on your program because she's a really fabulous girl.
Good idea.
The idea was that we went up with Dr. James Spottiswood, whose brother is Roger Spottiswood, who directs most of the James Bond movies now.
And James was doing his thesis on the mathematical probabilities of remote viewing, specifically using remote viewing to predict the outcome of a random number generator, in this case the roulette wheel.
So we had a group of about seven people and we went up to my folks' condo up in Lake Tahoe and we did ten throws on the wheel and we were actually of the ten, we had seven hits, one push and then the ninth and the tenth throws on the wheel were completely whacked out because by that time people had won so much money that how much money are you talking about?
At that time I think it was it was hard to say because it was a group of people that were actually pooling their money but you know we're looking at probably within the group about a little over $20,000 I guess.
art bell
Well you know in Las Vegas they throw card counters out on their ear.
They can tell apparently when somebody's counting cards.
sean david morton
Yeah but there's no way to actually control this because you can't control the psychic.
It's a whole different thing.
art bell
You can't control a remote view.
In other words they couldn't look at you and see you in a state of concentration that would give you away.
sean david morton
Well correct because you do actually all the concentration is actually done up in your room before you actually go down and place your bet.
So what we were doing back then was James had actually put together a couple of huge file folders of 8 by 10 photographs of different remote viewing targets, specifically like gingerbread houses and shoes and airplanes and the Eiffel Tower and various monuments and what have you.
And then the way you do it is that you then pick four targets and those four targets relate to the four possible outcomes of a roulette wheel, which would be the 0 double 0, the first third, the second third, and the last third of the wheel.
So you're actually doing 1 to 12, 13 to 24, and then like 25 to 36, I think it is.
art bell
Yeah, I know, but with the timeline being the most difficult thing for remote viewing.
sean david morton
Oh, no, but here's what you do, is that on your coordinate, and this is what I teach people now in my spiritual remote viewing classes, we've actually got one coming up in Pasadena on the 19th of January, is that what we do is that we simply put a coordinate when you actually create what I call the starship construct within your mind, you have a coordinate, which is basically a vector number, which is just a series.
It's like a street address.
It's like 755 Hermosa or something.
And then on the other side, you then have a specific time when you are going to be shown an object.
So what we've done, and this is what we did while we were here, is that we got together with another friend of mine who is my friend Stacey Dean, who does a lot of astrology and writes a lot of articles for my newsletter.
And we sat down, and what my friend Ben Lazardi has done is he's put together a game called Mind Dazzle, which I think has been advertised on your show a couple of times.
art bell
That's right.
sean david morton
And we just simply, and what the Mind Dazzle game is, you know, there's a booklet that shows you how to do it.
art bell
Sealed envelopes, yeah.
sean david morton
And there's a whole series of about 300 black sealed envelopes.
And the controller in the experiment simply takes out four of those envelopes, puts a number value on them, and simply says, all right, this is going to be 0, 0, 0, 1, 2, and 3 on the board.
So you've got four possible outcomes.
And then says, okay, here's your coordinate.
And at the spin of a roulette wheel at, say, exactly 11.15 p.m., you're going to then be shown an object.
art bell
Wow, that really pins it down.
sean david morton
It totally pins it down.
So what we did is the first time, we bet $1,000 actually on the first throw, and we missed because there was some confusion because I had actually felt myself that the two targets that were in confusion was.
art bell
That's all right.
You don't have to explain it.
You missed the first one.
sean david morton
We missed the first one because I'd actually drawn one target but felt myself in another.
The target was an airplane and the actual target was some kind of tower.
And I'd actually drawn the tower but felt myself in an airplane.
art bell
It's really the results we care about.
You've won $11,000 out of how many throws.
sean david morton
The second one we bet $1,000 and once again it pays 2 to 1.
So we won $3,000.
Third one we bet $1,000, won $3,000.
Fourth one we bet $1,000, 1 $3,000.
By this time we've wined so much money that it got kind of weird.
So then there was another push where there was some confusion between whether or not it was 1 or 3.
And so then you still go down and you spin the wheel, but you don't bet.
But you still have to see the target.
And then when we realized that the target was a little off and what we were doing wrong, we went back and then the sixth throw, we put $1,000 down and won another $3,000.
art bell
Well, I got to say that's laying it on.
I mean, if you are sure enough of your talent to come to Vegas and lay down $1,000 every time they spin the wheel, I'm impressed.
sean david morton
Well, it's a piece of cake.
And actually, we would have won $1,200, but as I said, we lost the first one.
So we were at $1,000, and then we pushed one.
art bell
Well, then everybody would ask, okay, then, if you can do that consistently or even close to consistently, you could be a multi-millionaire, say, over a period of a year.
So why not go for it?
sean david morton
Well, do it.
Once you learn how to do it, it's like I'm not that obsessed with money.
It's just not a, you know, once you actually know how to do it and you realize that you can just kind of pluck it out of the air, and this is like, like I said, what I try to teach people in all the classes that I'm doing, I actually teach this exact technique.
art bell
I know, but that pile of cash, that's like a certain, it's like a drug.
I mean, you said yourself, everybody was so excited.
sean david morton
Yeah, I just, I'm not that affected by it.
I'm like, okay, great.
It allows me to maybe buy some new computer equipment and, you know, allows me to fix my junky old 1975 fiat.
art bell
But like in the last, how long have you been in Las Vegas now?
sean david morton
Just since we came in, we come in the 20, I think Christmas Eve.
art bell
Christmas Eve.
sean david morton
It was just the last three.
art bell
You've won the 11 grand since Christmas Eve.
sean david morton
Yeah, we've just been doing two or three a day.
But it totally works.
We go down, you put $1,000 down, poof, it comes up, and then you just walk away.
And then you maybe go eat dinner or do whatever it is you're going to do.
And I've been playing some cards, too.
And I'm pretty good at blackjacks.
So I start out with like $100 and wind up with about $600.
But it's all about the blackjack's all about energy.
You never play against redheads?
art bell
Well, no, I can get next to that idea, but I've always had a thing about redheads.
sean david morton
But you don't play cards with them because they clean me out.
But it's just been great.
And it's just been one of those things where we've been using the Mind Dazzle kit, which is literally sort of a traveling.
art bell
It is cool.
It's very professionally done.
sean david morton
And it's been great stuff.
And Ben Lazardi's done a great job with it, and he's Doing some great stuff with it.
I'm teaching people all across the country in Pasadena, San Jose.
I'm going to be actually here in Las Vegas on the 16th of March, and then Pasadena on January 19th, and then February 23rd is San Diego, and then March 16th is Las Vegas, and then April 27th is Phoenix, and I'll be up in San Francisco May 18th, and then June 22nd in Seattle.
And people can actually call the 800 number, the 888-452-7999, to sign up.
And it's $200.
If you come early, it's like $150.
We also have student and senior discounts.
But it's a day-long seminar where I try to teach the spiritual aspect where we teach a whole series of Tibetan exercises.
We have a lot of focus on remote healing.
We do some projections into the future to allow people to maybe make predictions of their own lives.
We do a lot of past life work along with maybe some future life work.
art bell
What are the spiritual implications of knocking down the roulette wheel in Vegas?
sean david morton
Well, you know, money is energy, and it's a form of energy.
art bell
It is.
sean david morton
So it's just a question of drawing energy to you.
art bell
I know, but there's no possibility of a boomerang effect, is there?
sean david morton
Well, I suppose if you misuse it or if you get too greedy with it, or if you go crazy.
The boomerang effect is that when you get a group of people that are actually doing this spiritually, I guess, and this is what's happened with every group that I've really worked with, is that it just comes to the point of where you realize that it works and you do start getting greedy, I guess, and that's when you actually put the lower base chakra greed aspects into it, a lot of the ability just goes out the window.
Outside of that, it's literally an expression of a form of energy.
And I think that everybody that is spiritual or psychic or sensitive or open to new thoughts and new ideas totally deserves to prosper.
art bell
You've got to win in moderation.
sean david morton
Yeah, I guess that's a good way to put it.
I mean, I think it's putting a limit on the energy of the Creator, because I've always believed and I've always taught or been taught that somehow God has like a billion dollars that he wants to drop on somebody.
It's just a question of whether or not you're ready for that kind of money and that kind of success.
art bell
You said on this show, actually, you called George Bush as being elected at a time when nobody ever thought in a million years that would happen.
But you also said something about martial law, martial law in America.
And while we don't have martial law, we do have really tightened security right now.
I mean, really, I saw people taking off their shoes and putting them in scanners the other day after.
sean david morton
They did that at the airport coming here to Vegas.
art bell
Well, yeah.
Did they do your shoes?
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Yeah.
sean david morton
They did the cover shoes.
And then I got, for some reason, I guess I looked grumpy or something, so I got picked for special treatment.
And, you know, and they took me over and maybe turned my computer on.
And, you know, this girl's got these big rubber gloves on ready to feel me up.
And I said, well, usually people buy me dinner first before they do this.
And, yeah, I had a real bad attitude because I actually stepped off it.
I said, no, I've gone through this three times.
I've been x-rayed and poked and prodded.
I'm not going to be felt up like some criminal.
And so I finally let them pat me down so I could go through three hours of security to take a 45-minute flight to Las Vegas.
It was really rank.
art bell
I know.
All right, so anyway, so here we are in that kind of an atmosphere, and it's not martial law, but it's partway there.
Now, is martial law coming?
sean david morton
Well, you and I, I mean, you and I have a bit of a disagreement on this one particular point because I'm looking at more when I talked about George Bush and I said that, look, this guy is going to be elected President of the United States.
All I see for his administration is war, war, war.
That we're winding up for Desert Storm 2.
That I talked about, and a lot of these comments that I made were months before he was elected.
And I think I was one of the only people, even when I saw it on the TV and they said, well, Al Gore is President of the United States.
art bell
They're in shock.
I remember how well you call that.
sean david morton
No way it's going to be a matter of time.
art bell
No argument.
sean david morton
What I'm looking at is a lot of the legal ramifications, which I cannot see.
A lot of, for example, the Patriot Act that they've just passed and a lot of the institutions that have now allowed Bush to try immigrants and even citizens under military tribunals within the United States.
And when you're actually looking at it from a legal and technical standpoint, just reading the brief of the ACLU before they passed the Patriot Act, of their series of objections to the Patriot Act, I mean, we're talking about now the videotaping and taping of attorney-client, the violation of attorney-client privilege.
We're talking about police organizations cannot be denied warrants for whatever reason by judges under this new law.
We're talking about citizens, whether they be immigrants or whether or not they be U.S. citizens, being tried in secret by military tribunals.
art bell
Okay, so are you now making the case that martial law is effectively here now?
sean david morton
When you actually look at the Patriot Act and you look at the military tribunals, absolutely yes, because we are talking about a suspension of the Constitution, and we are now talking about an American president that has been given, shall I say, no British or American leader has been given this kind of power since Henry VIII or Oliver Cromwell.
I mean, literally, since the Magna Carta and King John, George Bush now has more power to basically arrest people, to close down public demonstrations, to basically I mean, the Patriot Act violates the first, the second, the fourth, the fifth, I mean, every amendment you can think of.
So, I mean, even though, yes, there's not tanks rolling down the streets, my psychic vision of the country being under martial law, certainly, I mean, every single one of the airports has got fatigues, and I think that that's what's coming down.
Now, will it get worse?
art bell
Yes, will it?
sean david morton
I think so.
I think we're still looking at chemical attacks on the United States.
I mean, I'm not looking at the dire predictions of, should I say yet, in 2002.
But I'm also a person that thinks that time and energy and the nature of the future actually pools into a series of probabilities and possibilities, and those are then triggered or they then dissipate to maybe the next possible.
art bell
Sean, right now, a lot of Americans, I think a lot of Americans, are watching us essentially mop up at this point in Afghanistan, and they're thinking it's probably pretty much over.
sean david morton
Well, if you remember when I was talking about this in, gosh, I was trying to get the exact day, but I think it was on the show.
September 28th, I think it was.
It was right before my birthday, I think.
And I said this whole thing will be over by February.
and I think we actually exchanged a little words about that because I said the terrorism will go on for a wider period of time because I said then that we're still going to go after Saddam.
So we're looking at Desert Storm 2.
And right now, a fulfillment of that prediction is that we've got 30,000 U.S. troops now massing in Kuwait.
art bell
Well, a possible fulfillment is tonight's headline on the Associated Press is that the president is contemplating 2002.
And one of the things he's contemplating is the next terror target, the next people we will, or country, I suppose, that we will target for terror.
sean david morton
Well, that's some.
Who else is it going to be?
It's Desert Storm 2.
You're seeing a 12-year pattern completely repeat itself.
You remember 12 years ago, George Bush I became president in the Chinese year of the snake.
His first war was with Panama.
The second war was with, well, actually, we're now moving into the Chinese Year of the Horse.
And in the Year of the Horse, we'll actually talk a lot about later on in the program.
We'll talk about all the various things that are going to happen in this 12-year cycle in regards to the whole horse year that's coming up.
But 12 years ago, you actually had in August of 90, you had Saddam invading Kuwait.
And then, of course, January 15th of 91 was when Desert Storm began, all year of the horse stuff.
So we have not only the same pattern repeating itself, but with the exact same players.
I mean, you've got Rumsfeld, you've got Dick Cheney, who is Secretary of Defense.
art bell
It is the same.
sean david morton
It's the same group.
art bell
Same group.
Same group.
sean david morton
And this is the dissension.
One of the things you need to watch now is going to be the dissension within the Bush administration because already you're seeing Colin Powell who says, nope, we don't want to go into Iraq or no, we don't have any plans to go into Iraq with Bush and Cheney and Rumsfeld basically disagreeing with him and sort of disenfranchising him.
Even not dividing the meeting.
art bell
This level of disagreement usually results ultimately in somebody getting sacked or walking off the job.
sean david morton
It's quite conceivable now at this point that could probably be Colin Powell.
art bell
Do you think if they decide in the administration to go after Iraq, Colin will walk or get canned?
I think it's possible.
I don't think politically they could get away with canning him.
That'd probably be a bad move.
He'd resign for some sort of something.
sean david morton
Well, he's the one man that I've noticed that's completely out of the loop now.
He's been completely disenfranchised.
He's not being invited to meetings.
His opinion is not being taken into consideration.
art bell
What about Cheney?
sean david morton
Cheney's the man.
I mean, he's the brains behind most of this operation.
I mean, he's a brilliant guy.
He was the former Secretary of Defense, as you know.
He was, I think, chief of staff at like 34.
He's also one of the few people that actually came up back in 1991-92 in all of our investigations into Area 51 because one of the guards that we had interviewed, this guy Ghostwalker, that was a, if you remember back that far, if you remember that whole thing,
Ghostwalker had actually directly identified Dick Cheney as actually not only being out at Area 51, but he claimed, I never saw them, but he claimed that he actually had a series of photos in his possession that actually had Cheney in the S-4 hangar,
actually looking at the UFOs, and then supposedly had actually been taken down to level 5, what they call the ambassadorial suites at Area 51, to supposedly, not communicate with, but actually look at a live alien being that they had prisoner there.
And it was interesting because actually during the presidential campaign, there was a fellow who stood up and said, Mr. Bush, are you going to be the disclosure candidate in regards to UFOs?
And of course, Bush pointed his finger at Cheney and said, well, you want to know about UFOs?
There's a man to talk to right there.
He knows everything about them.
Of course, Cheney's eyes just go wide as saucers.
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And, well, I don't think I could make a comment on that.
art bell
Boy, I sure would like to look at Area 51, inside Area 51.
I'd love to see it with my own eyes.
sean david morton
Well, watch Dick Cheney and watch the biggest thing is going to be Lynn Cheney.
You're going to see her on the news quite a bit.
And Lynn Cheney is going to be, I think, one of the major players in deciding, shall we say, the rest of Dick Cheney's political career as to what we're going to do.
art bell
All right, hold it right there.
We're at the top of the hour.
Sean David Morton is here.
I'm Marvell from the high desert, a little town called Tarum.
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art bell
I don't want it all for myself Back now to Las Vegas, where he's winning money.
And Sean, David, Morton.
Sean, you're back on the air.
sean david morton
Live from Caesars Palace.
art bell
Yeah, live from Caesars.
sean david morton
Actually, let me do this.
Let's dispense with Osama bin Laden once and for all here.
And I'll tell you what I've got on him, and then we'll be done with him because we've just talked about him so much.
Very interesting, because the astrological chart for Osama bin Laden for July 30th, 1957, cast for 12 p.m. in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia, very interesting.
I mean, it does show his death and demise coming up.
I had figured that the entire Afghanistan thing and much of the Afghan thing would be finished as of February.
The biggest thing you have to look for as far as what's going on with al-Qaeda and the whole terrorist network is you've got to watch Egypt and assassination attempts against Mubarak in Egypt.
They've just actually burned down a number of Christian churches in Egypt, so it's very much getting out of hand there.
And most of the money and the really fanatical followers outside of Afghanistan and Pakistan are Egyptian.
So that's one of the things you have to watch.
As far as bin Laden goes, specifically looking at his chart, the guy totally thinks he's a god.
He truly believes himself to be some kind of messiah.
control, power, manipulation, completely ruthless.
He's got a whole series of things in Virgo.
I also believe that he was gone, that he was actually out of the section of Pakistan where we're hunting for him before the first bomb actually came in.
The specific times for him, and there's two probable futures here in regards to...
Right now, I think that he's gone into, let me see if I can say it, Kyrgyzstan.
And I think that he's near, he's in a specific area called Pamir.
It's a little bit, it's probably about 300 miles south of Tajikistan.
But he's going to move.
He's actually north and east of where everybody thinks he is now.
I don't know what the hell they're doing in Tora Bora, but he's moved up into Kyrgyzstan.
I'm saying it right here.
art bell
No, they think they cut off his escape routes and pinned him in Toribora.
sean david morton
It's not true because I don't think he's there.
I think he left before the first bomb dropped.
And the two times that he's going to be the most vulnerable, and as I said, there's two probabilities and timelines here to watch between January 19th and about February 8th of 2002 is when he's going to be vulnerable.
His biggest thing is that they finally managed to actually freeze most of his money.
His money was mixed in.
Of course, the bin Laden family has had a lot of their construction family.
It's a very large family.
They've had direct associations with the Rockefellers.
art bell
With Spauddy money, yeah.
sean david morton
Well, also with the Carlisle Trust, with the Rockefeller Trust in Chicago, which was one of the reasons why they couldn't track it because it was actually all dealt up with a lot of American interest.
But they finally did manage to freeze his funds.
But he'll be very active and on the move.
I also get, and this is just my psychic sense of him, the problem with moving him around is that his health is very bad.
His kidneys, liver, it's the lower back, possibly the prostate, but there's a very serious malfunction of his health.
art bell
Well, we don't want him to die naturally.
sean david morton
Well, he's going to die a violent, rather public death.
But it's going to have to do with, like I said, if we don't get him by the 8th of February, the next time that he's going to be on the moon will be vulnerable.
And I think what you're going to see is that he's going to move down from the northeast area where he's at, which is specifically the Kyrgyzstan, I think is how it's pronounced, directly down into the Gilgrit area in North Pakistan.
And if we don't get him by the 8th of February, between the 19th and February 8th, then the next major possibility where he'll be vulnerable and also be very public will be right about the first part of May.
art bell
One big question in American minds would be, before we get him or after we get him, what do we have to look forward to here?
can he get us?
sean david morton
There's plenty.
I mean, I think most of his network there has been destroyed, and it's all individuals now.
I mean, I think he dies.
I see him dying a very violent, sudden, but unexpected death.
But I think he's turned in specifically when he moves into Pakistan.
Somebody kills him either for a reward or there's some kind of betrayal that's directly involved.
Someone where he's staying with or someone he trusts actually turns him into, I think, Pakistani authorities, and it's Musharraf that actually goes after him.
And I think it's the Pakistanis and Musharraf that actually kill him.
But I think that this leads to greater and grander repercussions because my other prediction is that you'll see the complete destabilization of Musharraf's regime.
He was actually put in there by the American CIA and by British intelligence, MI6, after the Pakistanis got nuclear weapons.
art bell
All right.
Well, that brings me to another point.
Pakistan and India tonight are on the verge of war.
I mean, they're really close.
It could go either way.
They're on the verge of war, and they both have nuclear weapons now.
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Right.
art bell
What do you say about that?
sean david morton
Well, my prediction, and going all the way back to August of 1994, and I actually reprinted it because I felt it was important enough to send out to everybody in something called the Vajr Chronicle.
So we reprinted it and sent it out to all the Delphi subscribers in October.
In 1994, I said that the opening of World War III would occur when Pakistan attacks India with troops and nuclear weapons.
Now, of course, this was 94.
The Pakistanis had as much chance of getting nuclear weapons as monkeys typing Shakespeare at that time.
And now we're looking at two nuclear superpowers across the border of each other.
I still believe that, of course, the Indians are now blaming the Pakistanis for the attack on the India.
art bell
So In other words, you stand by that prediction.
Oh, yeah.
sean david morton
But if I already know that the prediction is going to happen, where I see that the opening of this world war actually happens with a nuclear exchange between Pakistan and India in the northern part of India, then that means a number of things that have to happen for that to come through.
Number one, Musharraf is not going to let that happen.
He is not going to attack India first with nuclear weapons.
I think that this particular situation is going to be resolved, that there's going to be a huge crackdown on the fundamentalist groups by Musharraf.
Remember, before they were fighting over Kashmir and are continuing to fight over Kashmir.
So I still think you've got another year, possibly two years, before this happens.
But Musharraf has to be out of power.
And remember, too, that if you actually destabilize Musharraf and the rabid fundamentalist Muslims take over Pakistan again, you now once again have a fundamentalist Islamic state with direct access to nuclear weapons.
And of course, thanks to, well, if you remember when Clinton bombed that baby food factory in Afghanistan the same day that Monica Lewinsky, with the Monica missiles, as they called it, Monica Lewinsky did her deal.
The Pakistanis, one of those cruise missiles went off course, landed in Pakistan, and so now they have one of our most advanced missiles.
I made a comment on the show the last time.
It's sort of like Roswell, like a UFO falling out of the sky.
It is.
They have a cruise missile to take apart and maybe put a nuclear weapon on top of.
But that's the trigger.
That's the trigger for the next great world conflict is going to be that nuclear weapons.
art bell
That is going to be the beginning of World War III.
sean david morton
Yes, sir.
And I said that.
art bell
How do you imagine, let's say there was the kind of nuclear exchange between those two countries.
How does it get from there In a world where the Soviet bloc has disintegrated.
Sure, they've still got their nukes, but economically they're in total disintegration.
The Chinese have nuclear weapons, but they seem hopefully disinclined to use them.
North Korea has them, but they probably can't get them here that easily.
How does that ratchet from a simple, a nuclear exchange between Pakistan and India into a full world war?
sean david morton
It'll be directly - I mean, it's phase one.
It'll be directly contained, but you're talking about some kind of intervention by Russia, some kind of intervention by China, who all have interest in that particular area.
Troops amassing in Tibet, specifically possibly coming into Nepal or maybe using that as an excuse for an invasion of Nepal, which would then trigger something by the United States.
A world war now, if you're actually looking at it in terms of the whole sort of new world order that's been established here, I mean, Desert Storm was a world war.
There were something like 60 countries that were directly involved in that.
You're also looking at, as I said, with Pakistan, the biggest thing being that this will be one of the triggers that then unites the Islamic world.
And the last great war, because we're talking about a seven-year period of conflict here.
My prediction had originally been that we would go through a seven-year peace cycle from September 14th of 1993 to September 14th of 2000.
That would be our seven-year expanding economic peace cycle.
And then from 2000 to approximately 2006, you would then see a seven-year war cycle in the United States with a Republican president as one of the major leaders in a war cycle like this.
art bell
And this culminates in our becoming involved.
Obviously, you said Third World War.
That means we would have to be involved.
sean david morton
Well, I don't see with an exchange of nuclear weapons, and you're talking about with as many people as there are in India how the United States could not become involved.
art bell
I agree.
sean david morton
Which means that we would directly take on a radical fundamentalist state, which means going toe-to-toe with, once again, Iraq, Iran, possibly Egypt, the destabilization there.
And remember, I keep talking about that you've got Saddam, you had Osama, and I think that there's a third leader that's going to link the Muslim world together who's going to come specifically out of Iran, who will be some kind of religious leader that will be the third great antichrist figure that Nostradamus is constantly talking about, the man in the blue turban, the Persian prince.
Iran's been very, very quiet through this entire thing.
art bell
All right.
If we are to face a world nuclear war of some sort, how bad is it?
How many casualties are there?
How many continents are left in ruins?
Is the world covered in nuclear winter?
sean david morton
No, no, no.
Like I said, the nuclear exchange part of this will be the exchange.
I mean, we're talking mostly ground troops, and the nuclear exchange will just be between Pakistan and India.
As far as a global conflict going with the United States being involved there, we're still talking about a fairly conventional war.
As far as attacks here in the United States, I could say that the next major attack I see in the U.S., and I'm not talking about sabotage planes or...
art bell
I just want to really qualify what you mean by world war.
A world war being the United States with a series of full exchange with Russia or whatever.
Nothing like that.
sean david morton
I don't see, and I've said this over and over again.
I don't see the next massive world conflict.
I mean, a major world conflict like nuclear weapons and nuclear winter, et cetera, occurring until I do believe that the United States will go to war with Red China, but not until late 2017 and 2020.
And that's even a future that I'm hoping through possibly engagement and through consciousness and through increased communication and understanding may be a future that can still be averted.
So, you know, that's the biggest thing.
The next phase is going to be the seven-year war with Islam.
And then, you know, remember, too, we've got a lot of earth change stuff coming up as well.
Everybody's only focusing on terrorism.
And, you know, I've said that we don't have that much to worry about from the earth changes.
art bell
Now, look, I understand, before you get off on that, I understand, really I do, that we are a subject of propaganda in this country.
I mean, we propagandize our own people.
Every government on earth does it, and we're really good at it.
Right?
sean david morton
Right.
art bell
Well, right now, the propaganda is saying that, you know, after the last tape was released and Osama was talking about, joking about, you know, some of the hijackers not even knowing what they were doing until they got blown up when they hit the buildings and that sort of thing,
it looked like the absolute smoking gun in the news I began to get, might be propaganda, was that even the Muslim world was pretty well disgusted with bin Laden.
And so how do you get from there to a war, you know, a war between religions, really?
sean david morton
I just know that it happens.
The only other thing that I can think of would be.
art bell
But that would mean he'd win the propaganda war somehow, or that he is winning it, and we're being fed a bunch of crap.
sean david morton
Well, he is considered a hero by the pretty substantial sections of the Muslim world.
We're talking Shiite Muslims mostly who still make up 80% of the population of Iran, maybe almost 100% of the population of Iran, about 85% of the population of Iraq, close to 95% of the population of Saudi Arabia.
art bell
So you're saying a lot of those people that we think were disgusted when they saw the tape probably were cheering.
sean david morton
Yes.
And it's going to get worse with those people.
And another thing is going to be also in the coming year is that Israel is going to be at full-scale war with the PLO.
And I think also directly in conflict with Jordan and Syria.
And I think that Ariel Sharon is going to take, and this is, once again, this seems like a caffeine obvious prediction now, but last October when I said that Ariel Sharon is going to be elected the Prime Minister of Israel, that there were going to be a series of horrific actions taken by both the Israelis and the Palestinians against each other, which was going to lead to this whole new phase, that phase one was going to be Ariel Sharon and what's going on with the PLO.
Phase two would then be a series of terrorist attacks against the United States.
And this was like, we're talking like October of 2000, I was talking about this.
Terrorist attacks against the United States, which will then lead to, I think, possibly the Israelis or something happening to the Dome of the Rock.
I mean, that's going to be the big trigger.
And, of course, everybody you talk to that's familiar with most biblical prophecy will tell you that if the dome of the rock gets destroyed, then Israel wants to rebuild the third temple of Solomon, that particular section of that mosque, Which would then trigger a lot more consolidation of the Islamic world.
The only thing I might be able to say about this is that maybe the best case scenario would be that the horrific and heinous way that the attacks on New York were carried out have maybe disenfranchised this ideology, have maybe taken the steam out of some of what I'm seeing.
I'm not saying that communication and I'm not saying that spirit can't change very specific things.
But as far as the global conflict aspects of this go, it's just a major trend of the next seven years that we're going to go through.
And if you see the United States going head-to-head against Iraq, which is, I guess, what you would call an actual terrorist state, not a bunch of guys running around in the mountains of Afghanistan, Saddam Hussein does have the ability to blow up planes and blow up bridges.
And he does have a couple of nuclear weapons.
I mean, that's one of the things I don't want to tell you.
He's got four nuclear weapons, but only two of them actually work.
But none of these people have missiles.
None of these people have guidance systems.
The biggest thing is that if George W. Bush thinks that He's going to complete what his father started and go after Baghdad.
We built that place.
I mean, the United States during the Iran-Iraq war, when we came down in that war on Saddam's side, there are defenses that, I mean, rings around rings around rings, underground bunkers and weapons that we gave them.
Well, we should know where the bunkers are then that we're going to go directly into the teeth of.
So that's a whole other story, and that's probably why Colin Powell is backing off on this whole idea of getting Saddam.
art bell
And you think Dick Janey's solidly behind it?
sean david morton
Yeah, because it's just, I don't see how they can't not do it with all the rhetoric they've been ratcheting up about, well, we're going to smoke them out, and we have to go after the terrorist state.
art bell
Hold it, bottom of the hour.
All right, Sean.
sean david morton
We've got a bunch of these predictions, but I just want to go off on them in the book here.
art bell
All right, coming up, I'm Mark Bell.
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And my last education just hasn't heard enough.
I can read writings along the wall.
Hold on.
Hold on.
art bell
Well, all right.
Back now to Sean David Martin.
Sean, if you have a bunch of predictions, especially specific ones that you want to get out and on the record, boy, is this ever the time.
sean david morton
Okay, so here we go.
Are we going until 2 o'clock tonight?
art bell
Correct.
sean david morton
Okay, all right, great.
So let me get this up so we can take some calls here.
All right, first off, we're moving into the year of the horse now.
The last year of the horse was January 27th of 1990 to February 14th of 1991.
Horse years have a sense of energy, vitality, and freedom.
So there'll be very much an expansionist feel this year with an upturn of a lot of key industries as well as a much more positive economy.
There's going to be a whole series of significant new trade agreements that could be good or bad.
I think they're going to cause riots in the streets all over the world, but it's going to have to do with the empowerment of the World Trade Organization, NAFTA, GATT, the various G7 economies, the empowerment of a global and world court that will make a lot of very unpopular decisions in regards to the ecology and especially third world nations.
There's going to be a huge increase in consumer spending, especially in home improvements, electronics, sports, and communications.
So I'll talk about some specific stocks.
And in next month's Delphi Associates newsletter, I'm going to run some Elliott waves and give specific stocks.
But you're looking at Home Depot, you're looking at Best Buy, you're looking at Sony Communications, you're looking at, and I talked a little bit about the whole cell phone revolution and communications revolution that's going to happen with companies like Nokia and Ericsson.
So a lot of these Motorola, so a lot of these major, major cell phone companies are going to start going through the roof.
And I'll talk specifically about, give like a specific date as to when that's going to improve as well.
So the stock markets are going to improve.
The last horse year, 12 years ago, the Dow hit 3,000 and actually was the beginning of the 12-year upward spiral for the markets actually.
Landmark developments in film and television.
Of course, you've got Austin Powers 3 coming out.
You've got Star Wars coming out in May.
You've just had Lord of the Rings come out.
So it's going to be a record year for film and television.
Also, new technologies for film and television.
They're going to be going from film cameras to more and more digital cameras, specifically increases in the digital technology.
We'll probably see the beginning of the end of film and also a whole new series of high-definition television standards that will finally be adopted, and various networks and major corporations will start bringing in high-definition television and improvements in that field.
art bell
Boy, that would be nice.
sean david morton
Politics are going to move at lightning speed.
I think that, and this is, I think, a major prediction for the year, is that the Republicans will take back the Senate this year.
I don't think it comes to the elections.
I think it comes through either a Democratic senator dying or resigning with a Republican governor actually appointing another senator.
But the shift to power in the House that was when Jeffords kind of betrayed the Republican Party and shifted it back to the Democrats, that's going to change as well because the Republicans are going to take control of the House again.
Once again, 12 years ago, very unstable because areas flare up with one country invading another.
So you can look at invasions.
You can look at either Pakistan invading Kashmir, the United States invading Iran.
It's going to be a big year for one country invading another country.
Of course, 12 years ago was the collapse of the Berlin Wall.
Nelson Mandela was released.
Margaret Thatcher's government fell, which I think is another trend for England.
I think there's going to be such a huge backlash in England against the Euro and a lot of the European Union that I think you're finally going to see Tony Blair voted out.
art bell
How is the Euro going to do?
sean david morton
Well, not well.
I mean, the three countries that rejected it were Denmark, Sweden, and the U.K. I mean, this is the establishment, this is phase one of a massive kind of global New World Order deal where they want three currencies.
The overall plan economically is to establish the Euro dollar or the ECU, the European currency unit, for all of Europe and Eastern Europe, and then have the Federal Reserve note here in both the United States, Canada, and then all of South America.
So you have the Fed note from pole to pole in what I've been calling for years the North American Union or what eventually I think the European Union.
art bell
I can foresee all that, but I can't see Asia getting together.
They're nowhere close.
sean david morton
Because what will happen is that the Chinese Dewan is going to be the currency that they want to be able to adapt there.
And once again, we're talking about with 2002, the Rockefellers and the Kissingers and these guys were bragging that they would have complete economic control of the world by 2002.
Whether or not that's really happened yet, I can't really say.
But that's the overall plan, is to have the Chinese Dewan dominate the foreign currencies in Asia, have the Federal Reserve Note for all of North and South America, and then have the ECU, and then, of course, then merge that into kind of a one-world economic money state.
art bell
I can see how it's headed.
I just don't see Asia there yet at all.
sean david morton
Well, I've said for years that I still think that Korea is going to reunite, even though nobody thought that that was going to be likely.
And I think that the yen is going to I think the Japanese economy is going to slide right into the sea.
art bell
Certainly possible.
sean david morton
The yen is sliding against the dollar.
The Duan is getting much bigger.
I mean, they'll go where the money is.
China is now set to become the factory of the world.
art bell
I don't disagree.
sean david morton
And, of course, we've shipped our industry over to China, lock, stock, and barrel.
And, you know, and, of course, in the shadow of the 9-11 attacks, they snuck China into the World Trade Organization.
art bell
No, the regional economic coalitions you suggest are logical, actually underway right now.
Right.
So, yeah.
sean david morton
As far as the environment goes, we're going to see a whole series of very major accidents that are going to have to do with oil tankers.
Twelve years ago, the Amoco-Cadiz off the coast of Brittany spilled 220,000 tons of oil.
So you have to watch the Brittany coast, watch off the coast of France, also watch the North Sea of England and also Alaska again for some massive ecological disasters in the forms of oil tankers being disposed.
And also disposal of toxic waste right where you are.
There's going to be another big controversy because our boys over at Area 51 have said, well, hey, you've got a bunch of toxic waste, dump it here.
Nobody can do anything to us because we're above the law.
So if you've got some nuclear junk, if you've got some biochemical stuff, just bring it on down.
art bell
They actually are above the law.
sean david morton
So there's going to be another big brouhaha in the central part of Nevada.
And I think what's going to happen is that the various states that the waste travels through are not going to allow them to actually use their roads to get here.
Exactly.
So physical achievements, the four-minute mile was broken 12 years ago.
K2 was climbed for the first time.
The first balloon crossing of the Atlantic.
So lots of sports records this year.
At the Salt Lake City Olympics, I think lots of endurance records as well.
Let's talk about the economy a little bit because I see the economy actually amping up in the next year.
I think that also means the NFC wins the Super Bowl.
So you can pretty much see, you know, I think it's going to be the Rams and the Raiders with the Rams winning the Super Bowl, which is, I think, a given now.
art bell
And you're ignoring Pittsburgh and all the reasons.
sean david morton
The Rams are going to kill them.
art bell
No, no, no, I meant look at the Raiders.
The Raiders have a very good record, but Pittsburgh has gone bananas.
sean david morton
Well, they're good.
It's going to be the NFC.
It will not be.
Every year the AFC wins the Super Bowl, the economy just tanks.
And, of course, last year the Ravens won, and the economy just went right in the tank.
So watch the NFC to win.
So whoever the NFC team is going to be.
It also means when the economy goes up, the return of mini skirts, new musical artists.
art bell
I'm all for that.
sean david morton
There's a lot of mini skirts and midriffs.
Also, you're going to see, I think, revolutionarily, 12 years ago was the first test tube baby.
So now you're going to see, I think, a human clone this year, probably done offshore somewhere, possibly in international waters on some kind of research vessel.
But it's something in the water on a boat where human cloning is actually going to be done.
unidentified
Oh, yes.
art bell
Scientists are now leaving the United States in anticipation of laws that will not allow them to do it here, but it surely is going to be done.
So you're going to say this is the year we will see the first.
sean david morton
And I think it's not, once you have one, I think it's then going to be, well, not only that, you've got the new Star Wars movie called Attack of the Clones.
Literally, 2002 is going to be the Attack of the Clones, because I think once you do one, you're going to see clones, you know, and I'm not just cloning around here.
So you're going to see clones, I think, everywhere starting to pop up.
Let me see.
So that pretty much covers that part.
Major change in the British government.
Okay, we're also looking at the Dow Jones.
unidentified
I still think there's two specific things here.
sean david morton
First off, in regards to the NASDAQ, the specific date you guys need to watch for the NASDAQ, and this is actually an astrological reading on the markets.
Usually what I do is that on specific dates, I can predict where the market's going to be.
There's an Elliott wave curve that's used.
There's also an astrological charting of it that I use.
But also, you can also use remote viewing, specifically the remote viewing classes that I teach to predict the outcome of certain stocks on a particular day or in a particular month as to whether or not the stocks are going to be high, very high, low, or very low.
You can also use it with gold and silver as well.
The NASDAQ specifically is going to flounder a bit, and then there's going to be these remarkable new fluxes in communications technologies that are specifically going to come in June of 2002.
I see it a little earlier, but I see it, I'll just say June, between April, May, and June of 2002.
Here's the biggest thing that I think is the most remarkable about this.
Saturn, which is the planet that rules large companies, corporations, institutions, governments, that even though we've got what's called a Saturn-Pluto opposition, which is what fractures governments, attacks on governments, terrorist attacks, individual attacks on government.
But in 2002, Saturn moves into the third house.
Now, the third house is ruled by Gemini.
And we talked a little bit about Gemini and how Gemini, I feel, has changed from going from the twins to now being represented as the Stargate.
And you can even look at it as the World Trade Center towers representing the twin towers, what we call the lower mind, but it's not really the lower mind.
It just means the rational mind, you can say.
How that concept has now been blown to now the next phase being the Stargate.
And what's happening is that in 2002, when Saturn moves into the third house of the NASDAQ, and this is all the way up through about 2005, Gemini the Twins, this is going to open a stargate of information.
This is going to be informational systems that will increase brain power.
unidentified
We're talking about a basic change in humanity.
sean david morton
A change in humanity.
The thing is, is that 2002, it's a bridge year.
It's a year in which the trends of 2001 continue and everything is going to be established.
It's like the four Corners of the base of a pyramid laying out what's going to occur in 2003, 2004, 2005.
2003 is going to see one of the greatest influxes in human consciousness, I think, in history.
I think that you're now looking at a series of technologies, what I call Stargate technologies, where you're going to be seeing on the darker, I guess, more horrific biblical prophecy side, on the one hand, you're going to start seeing a chipping of the population.
You've already got a company called ADS, which is Applied Digital Solutions.
On the front page of the L.A. Times, December 19th, they actually had an article literally talking about chipping large sections of the population and saying that people's attitudes towards this have now changed because of the 911 attacks and that people are not that they're it's
a whole program called Digital Angel.
art bell
Oh, I know what it'll do.
sean david morton
Right.
And they use it for tracking Alzheimer's patients.
So if Ronald Reagan wanders off somewhere in Bel Air, they know where to find him, I guess.
So the idea behind this is that now they're talking about the chips.
And as I said, the front page of the LA Times talked about saying, well, it doesn't hold a lot of information, but we can still put a Social Security number on there.
We can still put a series of numbers.
And this is going to be the biggest thing.
I mean, there are literally going to be people who are going to revolt, who are going to start forming communities to not have to take literally the mark of the beast as it's coming up.
But 2003 is also going to see technology that I think, and let me make an outrageous statement here, that's going to see technology that will literally break down the barriers between fourth and fifth dimensional space, that we're going to see direct, somehow technological communication with whether or not it's extraterrestrials or angels or people in the spirit world.
We're going to see chip technology that can be directly implanted in the hypothalamus of the human brain that will actually increase the signals between the right and the left sections of the brain.
That will increase, they'll start calling it fluidic intelligence so that your IQ can actually be amped to well over 1,000 and above.
And this is the most remarkable thing that I see out of 2003 is that after this year and the technological developments here, 2003 is going to see such a gigantic outpouring of spirit and spiritual communities and people who are basically just going to turn away from the material world and literally begin an entire,
I guess you could call it alternative civilization that's going to be based on things of the spirit rather than things of the material, which is going to be, as I said, the paradigm for what I see coming as far as maybe the kingdom of heaven that I keep talking about here in the United States.
Let me see.
art bell
Okay.
sean david morton
Oh, I have to say this every year.
The Pope dies.
I say that every year, and I'm always wrong.
And I think if I don't say it, I think he might actually die.
So, okay, the Pope dies.
art bell
He has really hung on.
sean david morton
Oh, boy, has he?
art bell
Why has he hung on?
sean david morton
Once again, we'll talk about that if he goes, here's the one thing he has to do.
art bell
So you do occasionally get him wrong, right?
unidentified
Oh, yes.
art bell
Well, the Pope is the classic example.
unidentified
I mean, this guy's, he's going to be a head in a jar saying, tell Sean Morton, I'm still alive, damn him.
sean david morton
But he's got to go to Russia.
That's going to be the biggest, I think his greatest goal.
And there have been Russian and Greek Orthodox priests who have stopped him from going to Russia because that's the fulfillment.
I think he literally thinks his life mission now is to go to Russia because that is the direct fulfillment of the Fatima prophecies that he saw when he didn't even do it right, but he technically consecrated Russia in like 1987.
And about some two years later, you then had the Berlin Wall fall and the entire Russian complex fall.
The whole Soviet bloc fell.
He now directly believes, I think, after his conversations with Sister Lucia, that if he goes to Russia, that he may be able to bring some kind of world peace and some kind of change in Russia.
art bell
The so-called release of the Third Secret of FEMA, not complete, was it?
sean david morton
I do think it was complete because you actually had Sister Lucia talk about it.
I think their interpretation was completely wrong.
And I think that Ratzinger came out and spun it because I think it leads directly to the last pope.
And as I said, I was one of the first people to make the prediction that Carlo Martini was going to be the next pope after him.
Malachi actually had some direct predictions about, and Mastradamus had some intimations of them having a, quote, black pope.
It's not going to be like an African pope.
Carlo Martini, I believe, is a Jesuit.
And so his robe of office would literally be black, unlike the pope's, which is white, now.
So that would be his robe of office for his order.
So Carlo Martini will be the next pope.
He'll be called either Leo XVI, and Malachi calls him the Pope of the Glorious Olive Branch.
And then, of course, then the last Pope, and this is known in every prophecy circle, then becomes Petrus Romanus or Peter of Rome.
But I see Carlo Martini probably ruling for about seven years, seven to eight years or so.
And he's actually fairly young.
And then the last Pope being Petrus Romanus or Peter of Rome.
That's all the prophecies of Malachi, which you're more familiar with than anybody else.
So anyway, watch for him to visit Russia.
I think a lot of the walls will come down.
And I think after he visits Russia, I think he'll feel that his function in life, his purpose, his final peace mission has been fulfilled.
art bell
It is as though he is hanging on by sheer absolute willpower.
I mean, keeping himself alive with willpower for some reason.
sean david morton
And I think it's maybe the prayers of the world as well.
But it's this visit to Russia.
I think he literally feels that if he could visit Russia that he could fulfill the predictions of Fatima and bring peace to the world.
And that was one of the things that the Mother Mary insisted on over and over and over again with the Fatima children and with Sister Lucia throughout the years about, you know, why haven't they done what I said?
Why don't they consecrate Russia?
All these things, all these evils on the planet are going to come out of Russia and the Soviets and the Communists.
You have to do something about it.
So finally, as I said, they finally did it in 1987.
art bell
Well, are you predicting this will be successful?
That he will get to Russia in fact?
And that he will, in fact, bring peace?
sean david morton
Well, we'll see what happens.
I think that if Russia...
art bell
And on the other, you're saying, well, this could happen.
sean david morton
Well, Arthur, there is an alternative path here.
I mean, there is a path of on the one hand, I know what's going to happen, but there are three paths.
There's the downward path, there's the material path, and there's the upward path.
It's very much like the Great Pyramid of Giza.
And I do think that there are ways we can soften it, very much like taking your exams freshman, sophomore year, rather than waiting until the last minute to drag yourself over the coals and cram for some great test.
You know, I more than anybody think that prophecy if I did not think that prophecy could be changed, and if I did not think that predictions could be changed, and if I did not think that there was some way that we could actually bring about a peaceful, literally kingdom of heaven on earth through warning people about what was going on, I wouldn't bother.
I mean, you know, why would I care?
art bell
If I was a person who was aware of the power of the world, that is a very, very interesting concept.
Hold on right there.
We're at the top of the hour.
In other words, if he really felt that everything he said was inconcrete, then he wouldn't bother.
I'm going to have to think about that a little bit.
That's very interesting.
In other words, one reason to be here and talk of these prophecies is perhaps to give some little spark to the side that might prevent it all.
That gets me back to my original thing, which I'll ask about when we get back, and that is, if you predict something dire, and then you say, but there's another way it could go, well, I just, I don't know.
I'm Mark Bell.
is Coast to Coast AF.
All right, Sean, do you understand that on the one hand, I understand what you just said coming up to the top of the hour, that if prophecy was a locked-in thing and you could predict it and it would absolutely happen, that there'd hardly be any point in what you do.
On the other hand, the skeptics, you know, the cops out there, psychops, those type people, they're going to say, look, it's just an out that somebody like Sean Morton or, you know, people like him use, on the one hand, predicting something fairly awful can happen, but on the other saying it's not the only path, and if we get our act together, we can prevent it.
And so when it's prevented, they can say, see, we prevented it.
So you sort of win either way.
That's what they say, Sean.
sean david morton
Well, I keep pointing out the book of Jonah or the prophet Jonah as an example of this, is that Jonah was a prophet who was sent to the city of Nineveh who was told to preach to the people of Nineveh and that they were going to be destroyed.
And he was a guy with a track record who went to the middle of town, took off all his clothes, burned him, rolled himself in the ashes, and then put on a sack and took him three days to walk across Nineveh.
Of course, this is now modern-day Iraq.
And the people listened to him and actually averted the catastrophe.
unidentified
So I don't know what to say.
sean david morton
I mean, I know that there are long-term, that as I said, there is a long-term, I guess you would call it a messianic plan.
And I think the best way to look at that is to look at the wisdom of the ancients through the Great Pyramid of Giza, through the Mayans at the Great Pyramid of Chizen Itza in Central America, that does show that there is some great plan for humanity.
But the best way that I can, here's the best way I can describe it.
You and I have both been down into what's called the Chamber of the Odeal, or the Pit, which is the chamber beneath the Great Pyramid of Giza.
art bell
You bet.
sean david morton
And as you crawl up out of that tunnel, that's right about the year 1900 or so, if you look at the time coding in the pyramid.
And right at the edge of the lip of the pit, where the time coding says the bottom falls out of the world, the edge of that pit, and it kind of telescopes down, is 2004 to 2005, when humanity falls into some great dire disaster, if you will, that will be economic, that will be biologic, that quite conceivably might be nuclear.
But at the same time, the intimation of the prophecy is that those who are informed and those who are, I guess, of the light or who learn the truth and turn right towards God or towards the Creator, towards knowledge, towards spirit,
will actually find a way to move around the pit and actually get up into the, you know, there's some lumps and bumps and things up in the corner on the far right side, but that they'll actually be able to avoid being washed into this great disaster.
Of course, then something else comes along in 2012, which is intimated by a section of the structure which is a huge trough, which looks like it has seven kind of like spinal knots going up it that's called the River of Fire.
So, I mean, there is a grand plan, and I do think that this is the last 40-year age, and this is not just me saying this, I mean, this is the Mayans and the Egyptians and the Incans and God knows who else.
I know.
That this period of time is important from an aspect of consciousness, from an aspect of physical changes.
And I think it's all leading up to the birth of some great messianic figure sometime around the year 2034 or 2040.
And that this is a 40-year, what I call the Exodus period that we're going through, which will actually prepare the planet for the bestowal of some grand messianic figure about 40 years from now.
art bell
All right, here come the calls.
Wildcard Line, you're on the air with Sean David Morton.
unidentified
Hi.
sean david morton
Hi, Art.
unidentified
This is John from Goodland, Minnesota.
art bell
Hi, John.
sean david morton
Sean, last time you were on, you kind of affirmed Art and Whitley's idea of the coming global superstorm.
I think maybe about 2012 or something.
I think it's time for Art or someone to write a sequel, Surviving the Superstorm.
I think a lot of pockets of people up here in Minnesota are going to not flee.
When the power goes out and the wind even trashes their house, I think they're going to go down to their basement and put on their snowmobile suits and muklucks and their sorrels and maybe put some wood in the fire and eat out of their venison and fish out of their freezer for a few months.
Then perhaps I think there'll be starvation unless people can maybe ice fish or grow some food in some hard plastic greenhouses or something.
art bell
All right.
Well, I'm not a survivalist, so I'm unlikely to write any sequel.
But with regard to your prediction about such an event, Sean, there are a lot of recent statements from climatologists and the UN and, oh, gosh, all kinds of people saying that we're going to have rapid climate change.
All of a sudden, they're saying, gee, guess what, folks?
It can happen.
sean david morton
Well, let me give you the hard science on which it's based.
The hard science is based on the origin, mission, and scientific findings of the 46th and 72nd Reconnaissance Squadron, which flew a B-29 bomber called the Key Bird.
And this was under what was a polar surveyor expedition that the military called Project Nanook.
And Project Nanook specifically found three North Magnetic Poles.
As previously believed, there was one.
And that they learned that the actual location of the magnetic Earth Pole was approximately there are two local poles on the Bathurst Island and one on the Boothia Peninsula.
And this is what they were worried about.
They found something that they called polar wander.
And by the way, Project Nanook also established all of the various routes to allow polar travel actually over the North Pole through aircraft, which was considered one of the greatest achievements of the U.S. military the last 50 years.
art bell
We've actually seen the polar wandering.
sean david morton
Well, it says that polar wanders occurred frequently in the geologic past.
It's a shifting Earth's crust.
Well, to get through all that, they went down to a guy by the name of Dr. Paul Seipel at the Rand Corporation in Santa Monica, California.
And they were contracted to conduct lab studies using models of the Earth constructed of a series of concentric spheres, an inner sphere representing the electromagnetically charged molten core of the Earth whose axis defined the magnetic poles, and an outer sphere that represented the crust which rotated around the geographic polar axis.
So it was determined through a series of repeated experiments that as the magnetic pole approached the geographic pole, that the magnetic pole would at some point accelerate its rate of convergence as though pulled towards the geographic pole by centrifugal force and jump to then coincide.
But instead of the poles actually then coinciding, the magnetic pole would rapidly flip around the geographic pole, then spin off towards the equator, pulled by centrifugal force, ending up at a position where the two axises assumed an approximately 89% divergence.
And of course, after this polar flip occurred, the axises would then gradually begin to reconvert over a long period of time.
Now, there are things like the HARP Project.
art bell
Yeah, but what that means.
sean david morton
Well, it would mean the end of life on Earth, as we know.
art bell
That's right.
And you think the HAARP Project and others like it are intended to avert this?
sean david morton
To quite possibly stop it.
And, you know, the Earth has a long history of cataclysmic rather than gradual changes.
art bell
It sure does.
sean david morton
Dry land, which were once ocean floors, entire sunken civilizations and 2,200 feet of water.
art bell
Yeah, it's like scientists are just coming to realize this.
It's kind of weird.
sean david morton
Well, this was something they came to the conclusions of in the 60s.
And the military was afraid of letting this information out.
And then there were a whole series of magazine articles in Life and Look magazine that were done on it.
And people were like, eh, I mean, it's too big a concept for people to get.
But the biggest thing was that in the 60s, when they did this, they said that at the rate polar wander is occurring, that when geomagnetic north and geographic north actually strike one another, that we would see a polar flip.
And that their prediction was that this would happen between the years 2012 and 2014.
And as far as an actual direct threat to the planet and civilizations we know it, I think that is the single most dangerous thing because as the magnetic pole moves towards the actual geographic north pole, you're seeing the polar wander will create all of these gigantic storms, hurricanes, bizarre freak weather.
And it's all happening right in front of us, exactly like you talked about.
And one of the big major predictions also that I made back in 1992 was that I saw a landmass that would actually be rising off the coast of Florida, and that this landmass would be a section of Cuba and that sections of Florida would sink.
And I put this on the map and I sent it out again in October to everybody to show them, look, this is what I saw in 92.
And I saw that whole area being called New Atlantis in the exact area.
art bell
You know, imagine for a second a landmass coming up and literally connecting Cuba and Florida.
Now, what a political nightmare that would be.
sean david morton
There you go.
Well, and on your show, you're the one that broke the story about Atlantis and 2,200 feet of water right there.
art bell
Yes, we did.
sean david morton
And it was on a map that I drew back in 1992 that said this area would be called New Atlantis, which I think is what's going to happen with Cuba in a few years from now.
art bell
All right, East of the Rockies.
You're on the air with Sean David Morton.
unidentified
Hi.
Hi.
art bell
Hello.
Where are you?
unidentified
I'm in Marinette, Wisconsin.
art bell
Okay, sir.
unidentified
Go ahead.
art bell
Turn your radio off, please.
unidentified
Okay, no problem.
Actually, the thing I wanted to talk about was...
There we go.
Okay, the thing I wanted to talk about was I was listening to you last night, and you were touching on the pyramids, and you were speaking of the secrecy that was being held there, and I was wondering if that was actually something that was going to be able to take place, and if we were actually going to be able to know the truth about what's underneath there.
art bell
Now, there's a great question.
Sean, I did a repeat show, actually, with Graham Hancock.
sean david morton
Oh, yes.
art bell
And we were, of course, discussing what might be awaiting under the Sphinx.
unidentified
Right.
art bell
And that's something we haven't touched on in a very long time.
What can you tell them about that?
When might those secrets be revealed, and what might they be?
sean david morton
I could tell you what they are, but as far as when they might be revealed, but what I believe from my viewing of what's directly underneath the Sphinx, and this is from the well, first off, let me tell you what's there.
There's a box directly underneath the Sphinx that's about 30 feet down, and the box is approximately 30 feet tall by 60 feet tall.
It was actually ultrasounded first by the Japanese in 1974, again by Stanford University in 1986, and then again by the Japanese team in 1996 again.
Various proposals have been put to Zahi Hawass to drill a camera down into this box, but, you know, Zahi is...
So what I think is in the box is that, and this is one of the things that the Japanese found, was that there was some sort of magnetic slum that was coming from the box.
Who knows?
I mean, what I've remote viewed is actually in the box is that the tools that actually built the pyramid, which I believe are the ancient Ark of the Covenant, the Staff of Raw, and quite possibly the Cadus, but actual boxes or devices or things that were responsible for quite possibly building the pyramids maybe some 12,000 years ago or redecorating the pyramids or rebuilding them in the same spot.
The Hall of Records that Edgar Casey spoke of, there is a, I mean, this was just tradition when I was a kid.
When I was a kid, we used to kick this stump that was sort of in a roundabout right there in Giza.
And Edgar Casey specifically said that when the sun rose, I think on specific days between like May 20th and June 20th, that it rose on a hill between the Sphinx's paws and the sun, and it would then cast a shadow.
And it was underneath that small hill that was the capstone of the great pyramid, which was somehow a great crystal that was inverted that then hermetically sealed literally the tomb or the hall of Hermes or Hermes Trismegadus, the Great King, and all this.
And I believe that that's the entrance to the Hall of Records.
It's now sort of a roundabout.
art bell
So in other words, then, there is the technology that built the pyramids, which is a totally non-trivial matter to be found.
And there is the Hall of Records, which will tell us about our own.
unidentified
Correct.
sean david morton
And of course, they've already found, you know, back in 96, I published an article in my newsletter about the tomb of Osiris, and then two years later, it was on Fox TV and all this.
But there's an entire series of underground chambers to the point of which I think people are kind of missing the forest through the trees, because I think that the Hall of Records and this underground city that everybody's looking for, I think is the entire plateau.
art bell
Well, as you pointed out, Dr. Hawass rules it with an iron fist there, and he still does.
And there are always rumors of his political demise and somebody else coming along who might suddenly allow exploration that he has not.
But all of the rumors of his demise have proven to be somewhat premature.
sean david morton
It's not going to happen.
He's going to eventually become the director of the Supreme Council of Antiquities.
He's like a movie star in Egypt.
And I also, I mean, I like Zahi.
I think he's a great guy, and I believe that he's legitimate.
If I was to go, say, to the University of Chicago and had a million bucks and could actually approach him with a university study that was directly legitimate to doing certain things, like, for example, like Gattenbrink had to do.
But Gattenbrink, in exchange for just allowing him to send his little robot up a shaft, he had to then make a trade with the Egyptians and kind of do a little camel trading with them and say, well, I'll put a whole new air conditioning system in or new vents or new whatever.
So it's, you know, it's just a first off, it's a question of money.
Second off, it's a question of research.
Third off, it's a question of the legitimacy of the research.
And third off, if you go and mention Atlantis or if you mention the Hall of Records or anything else, they pretty much just boot you out of the country.
art bell
Oh, that's right.
sean david morton
He just doesn't agree with any of that stuff.
unidentified
I know.
art bell
I know.
All right.
West of the Rockies, you're on the air with Sean David Morton.
unidentified
Hello.
Hello.
art bell
Hi.
Where are you?
unidentified
Indio, California.
Okay.
Okay.
art bell
You have a terrible click on your line, sir.
Go ahead.
unidentified
My name's Michael from Indio, California.
art bell
Yes, got it, Michael.
Go ahead.
unidentified
Yeah, I got two, three questions, short ones, okay?
art bell
No, that's too many.
One, best shot.
unidentified
Here's one I guess he did not really talk about in reference to what he predicts what will happen in the Middle East and Asia and Europe and et cetera.
Yes.
I don't hear very much about where I live, California, the closest neighbor, Mexico.
Does he have any idea about how things are going to improve?
art bell
All right, all right, all right.
For North America, as the Euro dollar is being, gee, I saw him spitting out the Euros the other day on TV.
So as everything you talked about comes to pass, what will happen in North America?
What about Mexico and our neighbors?
Will we solidify?
sean david morton
Well, it's eventually, and as I said, I hate this happening with all my being, but it eventually becomes, I think that the United States eventually becomes a 13 nation-state section called the NAU, the North American Union, which consists of a 10-nation confederation directly within the United States, Mexico, and then the western section of Canada.
One of the biggest natural catastrophes I see happening within about the next 10 years is the destruction of Mexico City.
I just do not see any way, shape, or form.
I can't tell you right now when it's going to happen outside of maybe between about 2005 to 2007.
The rotation of Cocos Plate right now with the eruption of Mount Popo, that is a direct precursor to, I think, massive catastrophes in Mexico, which is then going to lead to one of my major predictions for the Bush administration was that they were going to simply throw the borders wide open between the United States and Mexico.
And I'm opposed to that.
I mean, I think That unless you have borders and culture and language, that you no longer really have a nation.
And he's already done that.
He's just throwing the borders wide open, which I think is going to directly severely affect the economies in New Mexico, Arizona, already has in Southern California.
And conditions are not going to get much better in Mexico.
With the millagras down there and with everything from the Japanese Honda plants going in to all of our industry actually moving south of there, I mean, it moves south of there because they can oppress the Mexican people.
They don't have unions.
They can pay them nothing.
I don't see conditions getting much better.
And I think that the earth change phenomenon, we didn't really get a chance to talk about this because I think that three major things are going to occur.
I still think that by late 2002 to the beginning to the spring of 2003, you're going to see the eruption of Mount Rainier in Washington State.
One of my major predictions in the newsletter was the 7.0 earthquake underneath Seattle that I felt was the beginning of the ticking clock for the eruption of Rainier.
And something else that I'm seeing, too, and this is New York.
I'm seeing New York, Vermont, and Pennsylvania.
And this is what I don't get, and I can't really clarify it now, but there's going to be something.
that's going to happen this spring that is either, it looks like either an earthquake or some kind of ripping earthquake or maybe an attack on like a nuclear plant or something, but there's something huge happening in New York City.
I'll get more specifics on it and put it in the newsletter.
art bell
Something seismic.
sean david morton
Something seismic, but I can't tell.
I don't know if it's seismic.
I can't tell if it's terror-related or seismic, but there's some gigantic event that causes a large evacuation of people and a great deal of destruction somewhere in upstate New York City.
art bell
When the Twin Towers came down, that was a detectable, very detectable seismic event.
So it could be either one.
All right, Sean, David, Morton, hold on.
We'll get right back to you and all of you on the phone.
I'm Mark Bell.
unidentified
is Will it be her lover?
Why your love is never the same for came by the wind for your day and promise you ever will you ever win in the darkness.
In the darkness back now to Sean David Morton.
art bell
Sean has a newsletter.
Sean, you want to tell him how to get it before we plunge back in here?
Go ahead.
unidentified
All right.
sean david morton
The Delphi Associates newsletter, the newsletter you have to have today because it tells you all about tomorrow.
We've boiled it down very simply to one number.
It's 888-452-7999.
That's 888-452-7999.
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We've got a class coming up January 19th in Pasadena, February 23rd in San Diego, March 16th in Las Vegas, April 27th in Phoenix, May 18th in San Francisco, and June 22nd in Seattle, Washington.
Like I said, I just won $11,000 at the casino using stuff that I can teach you how to do in basically an afternoon.
art bell
I'm impressed.
sean david morton
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We're going to make a special for you.
There's a couple of specials.
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And we'll start your subscription of the newsletter with the January 2002 all predictions issue.
So that's two free issues of the newsletter.
We'll send you out first class.
Also, if you subscribe for two years, we'll give it to you for $99, which is, of course, about $20 off the regular price.
You can also, for an extra $12, get the newsletter sent to you first class as well.
So we do have operators standing by, so the lines won't be jammed up.
But it's 888-452-7999, 888-452-799.
And also, you might want to check out our website because you can order off the website, the newsletter, and get a lot of links to a lot of other intuitives and a lot of very interesting people.
Our website is www.delphiassociates.org.
art bell
And of course, we have a link.
sean david morton
And of course, Art Bell has a link on his website to DelphiAsociates.org.
888-452-7999.
We'll treat you right.
If you guys sign up, I know the economy is kind of bad, but we're going to have some great stock predictions coming up, some fantastic predictions for the year.
It's going to be a real reestablishing year.
So 888-452-7999, the Delphi Associates newsletter.
You have to have it today because it tells you all about tomorrow.
There you go.
art bell
Here we go, indeed.
First time caller line.
You're on the air with Sean David Morton.
unidentified
Hi.
Art?
art bell
Yes.
unidentified
This is Dean.
I'm at AM 570 Washington.
art bell
Yes, sir.
unidentified
Okay.
I'm standing on the street in Unit Block of T Street.
Some of us here in Washington want to know about the anthrax.
You wouldn't know what kind of a worker I am, would you?
art bell
No, I wouldn't say.
sean david morton
Postal worker?
art bell
You're a postal worker.
unidentified
Yes, sir.
art bell
Yeah, that's a very good question.
Sean, are people dead?
sean david morton
Well, the anthrax is primarily military-grade.
It's coming from the only people that have the ability to make it like that are either the U.S. government, which means its stockpiles have been stolen, or it's coming directly from the Iraqis.
I think that there's going to be, well, it's just one of those captain-obvious things.
I mean, it's just going to, it's one of those things that's going to continue.
You are going to see, you know, I don't see thousands of people dead.
You know, there's maybe dozens of people that are probably directly affected by it here in the United States.
The only thing I can tell you specifically about it, I mean, there are a series of isolated incidences.
I think that they're probably going to pin a lot of the anthrax attacks directly on Saddam, which is going to be another reason why we're going to go after him.
And, of course, the next big thing is not only going to be anthrax to the mail, but also anthrax actually dusted onto money and then distributed into the We are going to need a new reason to go after Saddam.
art bell
In other words, Samuel Samo is not going to do it.
To actually mount a big military force against Saddam or do anything else.
We're going to have to have a new reason.
sean david morton
Well, it's either going to be the anthrax or further terrorist attacks within the United States.
They're going to be pinned directly on him.
I mean, we're in a seven-year war cycle now.
art bell
The anthrax would do it.
There's a lot of people who think it came from a domestic source.
sean david morton
That's what I was saying.
art bell
Well, no, I meant actually sent by domestic sources.
But if it were sent from Iraq, where Iraq sponsored it, no question about it.
That would be enough.
sean david morton
Only they and the United States government now, I think, have what they're actually calling the weapons-grade anthrax.
Once again, anthrax can't, unless you're spraying the stuff over the city in a plane, it's very difficult for an anthrax attack to affect large portions of the population.
art bell
I know, but it's still sufficiently terrorizing people.
And that man was a postal worker.
sean david morton
Of course.
And, you know, I don't know what these people are thinking, pissing off postal workers.
art bell
It's a good point.
It's a very good point, John.
Wildcard Line, you're on the air with Sean David Morton.
unidentified
Hi, Sean.
Hi, this is Bill in West Hartford.
Hi, Bill.
Yes, Sean, hi.
A lot of things you're talking about are very frightening and very troubling, particularly the seven-year war in the Middle East or India and Pakistan.
I think you even mentioned North Korea also.
I hate to say you, but you sound a little bit like Ed Dames, Dr. Doom.
art bell
Okay, and your question, sir?
unidentified
Yes.
Something positive that could go against all this that might bring us together, and that about science, the space program, specifically Sidonia, the face on Mars, which you're well aware of.
My question specifically is, if this year in 2002 coming up, if Michael Malin or the Mars 2001 Odyssey spacecraft should prove out the artificiality of the face on Mars, could that bring the world together?
art bell
All right.
That's a good question.
sean david morton
Well, I think the majority of people already think that the face on Mars is, I mean, the only people that don't think the face on Mars, in my personal opinion, isn't artificial and they turned up the gain on these things.
If I took a picture of George Bush and did the same thing that they did to the face on Mars before they released it, you wouldn't recognize him.
I don't know so much about the face on Mars.
The biggest thing that will bring people together is going to be communications technology.
It's going to be massive improvements in cell phone technology, communications, internet.
And I'm telling you, all of this stuff, as far as bringing the planet together, what I see happening, and I say this over and over and over again, is the formation of these massive spiritual communities of people who are using the Internet and cell phones and computers.
This is kindergarten.
This is, I'm telling you, kid stuff for what's about to happen, which is going to be smashing the barriers of time and space.
And it's one of the reasons why I'm putting so much effort into the remote viewing stuff and the spiritual remote viewing specifically, to show people that all time and all space exist all at once within the human mind and that telepathy and direct contact, whether or not it's with angelic beings or extraterrestrials or spirits from beyond, is going to start happening in 2003, 2004.
The walls between dimensions are literally going to come down.
And there's going to be groups of people who are going to devote themselves towards a spiritual idea.
art bell
I already see that occurring.
sean david morton
And who are going to turn away from material civilizations we know it.
art bell
Yeah, I see the walls coming down now.
sean david morton
And that's going to be the biggest change that brings humanity together.
art bell
I'm kind of at the forefront of noting that change because of the kind of program I do.
sean david morton
I'm telling you, and you people out there, you guys should thank God for Art Bell because I'm telling you, there are only like five forms.
There's only five guys that own everything now.
You know that.
There's like Vivendi, Disney, Capcom.
You're it.
I mean, there's nothing on the TV anymore.
There's no more sightings.
There's no more strange universe.
You're one of the few alternative sources of information anywhere in the world because everybody else has been shut down except you.
And people out there should thank their lucky stars that you're on the radio giving some kind of alternative form of information to people out there.
art bell
Very kind, thank you.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air with Sean David Morton.
unidentified
Hello.
Hello.
I cannot believe I'm through.
art bell
Yes, you are.
Where are you?
unidentified
For months.
Oh.
art bell
Where are you?
unidentified
Glendale Heights, Illinois.
Okay.
Something seems to happen when I get a hold of you, and we lose contact immediately.
But many of the things that you feel, I feel, and have felt.
And I want to know before I ask Sean the question, you won't take snail mail.
I do not have a computer or access to one.
And I want to know, can I send mail to your radio station?
art bell
No, we're not taking.
unidentified
I'm terribly excited about it your particular one?
The one in Oregon that I'm calling through right now?
art bell
I suppose you could try that.
unidentified
Do you have some kind of a phone number or an address?
art bell
You know what?
I'm not sure they're taking it either.
I mean, this has been ruined.
So I'm sorry, ma'am.
unidentified
I wanted to tell you about the.
art bell
Okay, fine.
I will try and get you information on that.
That's all I can promise.
Right now, we don't know what to do about snail mail.
So you have a question?
unidentified
Yes.
Sean, have you ever remote viewed the Coral Castle in Florida where it was supposed to have had the secrets of the pyramids?
sean david morton
Yes, I've been there.
I've actually physically been there and seen the photographs taken of the guy while he's in the meditative state.
art bell
Yes, but she wants to know how he did it.
sean david morton
Well, he was a Lithuanian who I think he claims to have directly discovered a direct link to the magnetic ley lines of the planet.
And I do believe that he came up with a way possibly using, well, he claims his claim is, I mean, there's no mystery about it, his claim was that he could actually directly meditate and get in contact with the planet itself and actually manipulate the ley lines of the planet.
art bell
After Seeing it in person, is it also your view that he would have had to have possessed that kind of technology that we're talking about right now in order to have done what he did?
sean david morton
Yes, the Coral Castle in Florida is amazing.
And there's a photograph that was actually taken of the man where he's got a, it's sort of a, there's a weird sort of energy field actually coming out from around his head.
art bell
Do you have that photograph?
sean david morton
In a square.
It's in the book that they sell at the Coral Castle.
art bell
Would like to see that.
sean david morton
I've got it somewhere.
I'll send it to you in the email, actually.
But There's an actual photo with him with what looks like a square around his head doing the meditation and the whole thing.
So it's a fabulous place, and I think he is directly in tune with it.
I think the pyramids were probably built the same way, but also using certain aspects of sonics and also using, I think, the staff of Raw and actually what was then a prototype of the Ark of the Covenant, but that's a whole other story.
art bell
All right.
West of the Rockies, you're on the air with Sean David Morton.
unidentified
Hi.
Hi, Sean.
Hi.
My question has to do with what you believe or your opinion is on the rapture as well as the Antichrist as far as your studies or your personal beliefs.
sean david morton
Oh, I I mean, my personal beliefs are are that I mean, I think that I was reinterpreted by Schofield in the early part of the 1800s.
I mean, I don't particularly believe in the rapture per se.
However, I do believe that there is a messianic figure coming in about 40 years.
I've always looked to the pyramid because it says in Isaiah 44 that in the last days that the Lord thy God in the center and at the border of the land of Egypt shall build a pillar and a monument to the Lord thy God.
And so I've always looked to the time coatings of the pyramids as being the great overview of what's going on.
I don't think that the messianic figure comes the way people think.
I believe in reincarnation over a long period of time, sort of a racial and spiritual migration upwards, which, of course, most modern-day Christians don't believe in the reincarnation concept, but I see it as a, you know, for example, I see the resurrection of the quick and the dead quite specifically as being an age of universal reincarnation that's directly described in the Great Pyramid as beginning about the year 1914 or so, which then leads to 6 billion people on the planet, which then leads to a judgment age.
And if you look, and as a matter of fact, in this month's issue of the newsletter, I give an entire series of quotes where I quote directly out of the Bible talking about the kingdom of heaven, the coming messianic figure, where Christ describes that the messianic figure comes after the earth is cleansed.
And I actually put the pyramid prophecies and predictions from the Great Pyramid decoded by Peter Limasurier directly next to the biblical quotes that show that the Great Pyramid very elegantly states in its very geometry actually backs up many of the prophecies in the New Testament.
But as far as the rapture goes, I don't personally believe in it.
I know a lot of people do.
And I think the resurrection of the quick and the dead, quite directly, is an age of universal reincarnation.
unidentified
How do you feel about the Antichrist depiction and revelation?
sean david morton
That's a whole other ball of wax because you know.
unidentified
I heard you mention also about the chip implantation, which I emailed Art about a couple weeks ago.
sean david morton
Well, I mean, the mark of the beast, remember, too, that there's three things happening here.
You have Nero as one of the first Antichrists who did mark the Jews of the Triple Sixes back around between 60 and about 80 AD or so.
You then have the establishment of the Roman Catholic Church, which is predicted in Daniel as the resurrected, what he talks about as the revived Roman Empire, the city of the Seven Hills.
You then have what appears to be an Antichrist character coming up out of the book of Revelation that many believe to be whoever is the leader of the European Union.
I can tell you there's one guy to watch.
There's a guy named Angelo Sanatelli.
unidentified
Is he the one-eyed fellow?
sean david morton
I'm sorry?
unidentified
Is he the one-eyed fellow?
sean david morton
No, Angelo Sanatelli is a Roman Italian who was one of the architects of the whole European Union.
The problem with the, I guess you could say, the Christian prophecy is that they keep talking about a 10-nation confederation.
And there hasn't been a 10-nation confederation of Europe states.
I mean, it was for like 10 minutes where there are 10 nations.
Now it's 16.
It's eventually going to be 22.
So the idea becomes that is the Antichrist, that Antichrist in Revelation, a political leader, and then there's like a false prophet who's more like a New World Order religious leader who comes along, which I think is a quite possible scenario considering now you're seeing the establishment of what people in science fiction and biblical prophecy have talked about for years, which is the chipping of the population in the European Union.
I mean, is going to start to happen on the 1st of January 2002.
art bell
All right.
We don't have a lot of time.
So wildcard line.
You're on the airport.
sean david morton
I'm going to show you.
That's a great question.
Sure.
unidentified
Hi, Jason.
Hi.
art bell
Hi.
Go ahead.
unidentified
I'm Colin from Toronto.
Great to hear from you.
Interesting to hear your predictions.
And I don't know if I'm allowed to sort of comment on them or just to ask you a few questions.
So I'll just err on the side of caution and ask you a few questions.
You mentioned that you thought Cheney was the main man.
Seems to me he's almost as elusive as Osama bin Laden.
And I have a gut feeling that Tom Ridge, this Homeland Security thing, I think what they're doing, I don't know, but my psychic vibe is saying they're grooming him for vice presidency.
They're getting the public to know him.
And he's taking on statue every day.
They're giving him the opportunity to do so.
And when the announcement comes, I don't know, but I don't think Cheney's well enough to suffer this.
I think that's why we see his wife.
art bell
And your question?
unidentified
My question was, your point was about Cheney being the main man.
I wanted to ask you also if you think there's a connection between the Australian fires, the Indonesian train crash, the refugees in the channel, the Ebola and Gabon and the Congo things going on, the anthrax, the stuff they discovered in all of the sort of Taliban hideouts where they had run from but left all these chemicals lying around.
art bell
All right, all right.
We're going to have to hold it there.
We're going to go.
unidentified
Here we go.
art bell
That's a lot to connect.
sean david morton
All I can say briefly is that back in 1994 and then leading up to this is that one of the greatest, I guess I think one of the main things where the bottom literally falls out of the world is that between 2004 and 2006, one of the major predictions, one of my major prophecies has been a global plague,
has been a series of biological and chemical agents, if you will, that I think are going to be a direct combination of, you could, I guess, on the one hand, a terrorist attack, but also it has a lot to do with the chemtrails and all the bacteria that's actually being brought down from the upper atmosphere to a natural cycle of all of these volcanoes that are actually gouging up gases with disease and bacteria that we haven't seen for hundreds of years.
But between 2004 and 2006, I think that there's a gigantic global plague.
Once again, this has to do with an aspect of consciousness, because I think that people who understand spiritual healing, who understand health, who understand natural health, holistic health, just like the flu virus plague between 1918 and 1922, which killed between 10 and 30 million people worldwide, actually, 10 million people right here in the United States.
It's what stopped the First World War, is that people were just too sick to fight.
People that were familiar with things like olive leaf extract, echinacea golden seal, flax seed.
There was a flax seed tea that was going around at the time that was a concoction that, once again, has to do with consciousness.
People that are conscious, people that are awake, people that are open to new information and holistic forms of spirituality and health are going to be able to avoid this, whereas the rest of the world is just going to literally go into the pit, so to speak.
art bell
They are the ones that will, in a sense, inherit.
sean david morton
Inherit what's left of the earth, yes.
art bell
Maybe time for one very fast one.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified
Hi there.
I'm Terry from Burlington, Vermont.
Yes.
Hi.
Thanks, Art, and hi, Sean.
Hi.
Listen, this has specifically to do with what you said about New York State, really close.
I moved here in 1995.
Sometime, it's hard to tell in real time, but sometime, and I've had these for a long time, I had a pocket of series of dreams.
Obviously, at the time, I didn't know where these dreams were taking place, but once I moved here and have gone around the small countryside right around the Burlington area.
sean david morton
Only a few seconds, and you're run out of time.
unidentified
I recognize these places, and what I think is, I think you're right.
I saw a plume.
I saw a plume over the horizon, over the lake here, the Champlain Lake.
art bell
In other words, she's agreeing with you, Sean.
We're out of time.
I'm so sorry.
sean david morton
God bless you, Art.
Have the best coming new year of the horse and happy new year to everybody out there.
And once again, it's just been such a great honor to be a guest on your show over the last, and be a family of yours, really, for the last 10 years.
art bell
I'm glad to have you here.
Thank you, Sean.
Good night.
That's Sean, David Morton.
Tomorrow night, we'll pick up with all of you as our predictions for the new year continue.
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