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Coast to Coast AM with Art Bell - 'Entity Attack' - Open Lines

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unidentified		Welcome to Arkbell Somewhere in Time, tonight featuring Coast to Coast AM from December 7th, 2001.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		From the high desert and the great American Southwest, I bid you all good evening, good morning, good afternoon, whatever it may be, wherever you are in all 24 time zones.
		And by this program, I'm Arkbell, and this is Coast to Coast AM, Friday Night Saturday Morning, Open Live Version.
		It is the beginning.
		All right.
		First, I'd like to welcome yet more new affiliates.
unidentified		WCCAFM.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		In Charlotte, North Carolina.
		Not Charlotte, but Chalot, North Carolina.
		103.7 megahertz.
		25,000 watts.
		And also simulcasting us from Chalot, WLTT-FM in Charlotte, North Carolina.
		106.3 on the dial, 6 kilowatts.
		Now you might ask yourself, why would two radio stations and one town be carrying my program?
		Simple answer.
		WCCA blasts north with 25,000 watts to the Wilmington area, and WLTT blasts south to the Myrtle Beach area.
		So thank you, guys.
		And by that, I mean the owner, Gary Burns, the ops director, Ron Franklin.
		Great, great, great to have you with us in the ever-growing network.
		Aye, yeah, the numbers.
		Listen, I want to say a word or two about last night's program.
		I think that in many ways, of all the shows I've done on near-death or what happens to one after we pass to the other side, leave the physical body, assume room temperature, whatever, Pam's interview last night was really profound.
		I could not shoot a hole in the whole thing.
		As you know, I hope you heard it last night.
		Pam had brain surgery.
		She had an aneurysm removed from her brain, and to do that, they cooled her down to about 58 degrees, removed all the blood from her body.
		Her heart stopped, and her brain waves ceased for one hour.
		One hour.
		And she told us all about where she went and what happened.
		And it was incredible.
		Incredible.
		Moreover, Pam was able to account in a linear time frame for everything that happened in the operating room.
		Things that were said, instruments, things that were moved.
		In fact, the paddles used to try and kickstart her heart.
		She recalled all of that.
		Now, the only possible argument that I could see that could have been made was that Pam experienced this as she went into anesthetic or came out from.
		However, that is shot down completely by the fact that she was able to relate everything that went on in that operating room, as well as what occurred to her externally.
		So it was a very profound interview, in my opinion.
		Really profound.
		And if you missed it, somewhere down the line, we'll try and get it repeated for you.
		Where was this woman?
		She was dead.
		Dead by every measure.
		I mean, no brainwaves, zero for an hour.
		That is really, really dead.
		Where was she?
		I'd say it's a fairly important question, wouldn't you?
		Hey, listen, along with the open lines that we're going to have tonight, because of a few, if you're a regular listener, you know, a few recent really bizarre, frightening stories that have come from mostly young ladies that have called, we are going to do a special line.
		One line tonight is going to be devoted to the subject of entity attacks.
		And I purposely use the somewhat vague term entity because I have no idea what it is attacking these people.
		Both women and men.
		I have no idea.
		In their sleep, I talked to a woman the other night who had hand marks, you know, bruises over her body from an attack during the night from something evil.
		Something evil, some sort of representative of the devil or the devil himself or a shadow person, whatever a shadow person really is, or any one of who knows.
		So in other words, I've left it sort of open with the vague term entity.
		But when I say attack by an entity, I mean a physical attack, an actual physical attack from some sort of entity.
		If this has happened to you, then I am going to restrict.
		Nobody else can call this line, but those who fit into that category.
		Only if you fit into that category should you call, and only if it was a physical attack should you call.
		And we'll sort of pick up on that toward the bottom of the hour.
		Now, in war news, Taliban forces look like they're going to give it up.
		Kandahar, that is.
		A lot of you may recall that many now, a couple of months ago at least, Eddame said that bin Laden orchestrated the attack from a bunker near Kandahar before anybody knew anything about Afghanistan for the most part.
		And it looks like Kandahar may be where they find him.
		We'll see.
		And now he didn't say he'd be found in Kandahar necessarily.
		He said that he orchestrated the attack from a bunker in the Kandahar area.
		Ed Dames will be here on Monday also to talk about this new fungus that is attacking our trees.
		Anyway, they're looking for Osama bin Laden.
		You know, they feel they're getting close.
		The dragnet is certainly closing in.
	Now, eager to keep their stamp on the government's response to the September 11 attacks, Senate Democrats yesterday proposed a $20 billion alternative to the $35 billion anti-terrorism package killed hours earlier by lawmakers in defeating the bill.
	The Republicans have apparently handed a victory to President Bush, who swore anything over $20 billion and he would wield the veto pen, and that would be that.
	December 7th.
	Americans marked yesterday's anniversary of Pearl Harbor with appeals to their countrymen to fight terrorism with the same valor shown by the World War II generation.
	Ceremonies honoring the thousands killed on December 7th stretched from Hawaii to New York near the smoking rubble of the World Trade Center, which has been compared to the audacity, the infamy of December 7th, 1941, again and again.
	And I think in some ways, in some ways, even worse.
	At least the Japanese, for the most part, attempted to attack military facilities, you know, ships, support things.
	They tried to keep our butts out of the Pacific Ocean.
	That was the intent of the dastardly attack.
	They wanted us crippled and unable to respond as they crisscrossed the Pacific, taking everything in sight.
unidentified		Well, of course it didn't work.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And what's happened to us September 11th isn't going to work in the long run either.
		Now had a rather down day, about 50, the NASDAQ falling about 33.
		Well, just as I suspected, the major networks began to break the story on Cuba today.
		The wire services began breaking it late last night.
		CNN had it, then ABC's Good Morning America, I think, had it.
		Do you know that over 70% of the American people believe that that is Atlantis under the water off the coast of Cuba?
		Now, you've got to ask yourself, or you should ask yourself, if we've got really good investigative reporters in this country, why did it take them six months from the time that we began discussing it on this program with some pretty heavy-duty evidence?
		I mean, they could have taken the tip a little earlier, in my opinion.
		And we did more than give them a little tip.
		I mean, we just about rammed it down their throats.
		Hey, yo, folks, there's a big discovery in the waters off Cuba, and, you know, it's a city.
		And, you know, there are buildings and highways, and it looks like an urban center, you know, the quotes and so forth.
		And we've done that for so long now, and somehow you would think that somebody at one of the networks would say, hey, Frank, this sounds like it could be an important story.
		Maybe we ought to check on it.
		What do you think?
		But they didn't.
		It took six months.
		And then I don't know what was the final catalyst for somebody with a few more brains than their colleagues to figure out this just might be a big story.
		Hear about Mars?
		Oh my.
		Today it was revealed that the increasing temperature of the Sun is causing Mars to heat up.
		In fact, the surface of Mars is heating up so rapidly that in less than 1,000 years, Mars polar ice caps will completely melt.
		The temperature of the red planet will zoom up to, in quotes now, shirt-sleeve environment.
		Now, the one thing that the press didn't for today, and I would like to at least bandy about with you a little bit, check me here if I'm wrong.
		But we are the, what, the third rock from the sun, right?
		And Mars is our neighbor, and even though they ran this story about ice caps melting on Mars, and that's how much the sun, didn't it occur to anybody out there that, you know, folks, it's the same sun, the one heating up Mars enough to melt the ice caps, is same sun that we enjoy the rays of here.
		So, seems to me what's going to affect Mars is going to affect the Earth as well.
		Duh.
		But nobody sort of took on that aspect of the story, and I've been telling you for a long time now.
		Boy, I'll tell you, big X-class flares expected from just gigantic spots on the Sun.
		The Sun really has been going extra special nuts lately.
		So, I don't know.
		Seems to me they just sort of missed that part of the story.
		I mean, it's great about Mars.
		Amazing about Mars to imagine the ice caps are going to melt and that it'll be shirt-sleeve weather.
		I mean, you know, good weather for human beings.
		Of course, if they melt, if there's large water content on Mars, now let's think about this, folks.
		When the ice melts and the water flows, what is that going to put into the atmosphere?
		Probably oxygen.
		Right?
		So the sun will get hotter, Mars will begin to heat up and get an atmosphere.
		But dog dumb, they just don't mention how that's going to affect the Earth.
unidentified		And I just, I think that's so important.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Since, you know, we live here.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		us, maybe that's just me.
unidentified		crash crash crash you
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Don't forget, one line is being reserved away.
		Don't even bother calling it, because I will screen calls on this line.
		I will screen calls.
		It's my entity attack line.
		People who have been physically attacked, physically, by some sort of entity.
		Any other line, any other subject, whatever you want.
		Wildcard line, you're on the air.
		Good morning.
unidentified		Good morning, Art.
		Hi.
		Yes, I have two different episodes that happened to me and my brother.
		It rained rocks on us for three days.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I beg your pardon.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It rained rocks?
unidentified		Yes.
unidentified		It rained.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Were you in a rock fight?
unidentified		No.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You mean it rained rocks from the sky?
unidentified		Yes, sir.
unidentified		And the police that were there investigated.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		kind of rock, sir?
		Pebbles or...
		Kind of like type two, they call it.
unidentified		Mm-hmm.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, type two, a type two shower.
unidentified		Right.
unidentified		And I had a win.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Sir, where did this happen?
unidentified		California, Missouri.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		California, Missouri?
unidentified		Yes, sir.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's a town in Missouri?
unidentified		Yes, sir.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And, well, it seems to me like if it would rain rocks, things would begin to break.
unidentified		Yes.
unidentified		Yeah, and I tell you, it had the cops baffled there.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Why bad?
unidentified		They couldn't figure out, you know, they was up on the rooftops thinking that people was throwing them off the roofs and everything.
		They were spotlighting all over the place, and it was just the craziest thing we ever seen.
		Well, okay, so what was it?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		When did this happen?
unidentified		1980, I think it was 81.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, so what did they finally conclude?
		There must have been an investigation.
		After all, it doesn't rain rocks every day, right?
		So somebody must have investigated all this.
unidentified		Yeah, they investigated.
		They tried to figure out what was going on, but I think it scared them to death.
		They never called any big boys in on it or anything, but they were just small, you know, it's a small town, about 3,000 people.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, excuse me, but you know, when it rains rocks, not for one, but for three days, that's biblical.
unidentified		Yeah.
		Everywhere we went for three days and three nights, it rained rocks.
		The craziest thing, I'm telling you, Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, you mean you actually went out?
		I mean, if it was raining rocks, I would hide inside.
		I would not go out, nor would I subject my cars to a rain of rocks.
		I mean, so you were out and about?
unidentified		Yeah, we weren't just kids.
		We were like in our 20s and stuff, but we thought it was pretty cool, really.
		You know, we were kind of scared, but in the other sense, it was kind of neat.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Raining.
		Well, I guess if you're a kid, you'd go, wow, it's raining rocks.
		But that's as cool as it would get.
		I mean, it's not good to rain rocks.
		I mean, did you get, I mean, were there rocks everywhere?
unidentified		The rocks just came and they tattooed us everywhere we went, and we jumped in some friends' cars, and the rocks followed us everywhere we went for three days and three nights.
unidentified		When we went home, it rained rocks on us all night while we slept.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Sir.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Sir.
unidentified		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Put your right hand on your radio.
unidentified		Put my right hand on my radio.
		Yes.
		Okay, hold on.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You got it there?
unidentified		I do.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Do you swear to me on your radio that it really, honest to God, rained rocks?
unidentified		Art Bill, I swear to you on my life, me and my brother, it rained rocks on us for three days and three nights.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Can you understand that the average person might have some doubt about that?
unidentified		Well, yes.
		But we've also seen a UFO in 1977 right over us.
		We were sleeping out in the front yard.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, in some ways, that really honestly doesn't compare to raining rocks.
		Three days of raining rocks.
		Going to have to think about this.
		That's the first report I've ever heard of that.
		I'm Art Bell.
unidentified		Eatwork Bell somewhere in time.
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		Tonight, an on-core presentation of Coast to Coast AM from December 7th, 2001.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Good morning, everybody.
		I'm Art Bell, and it's open lines, absolutely open lines, except for that one entity attack line all night long.
		Friday night, Saturday morning.
unidentified		Friday night, Saturday night.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And now, our first plunge to the entity attack line.
		Only those attacked physically by entities may call this line.
		And on that line, you are on the air.
		Good morning.
unidentified		Good morning, Mr. Bell.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi.
unidentified		Where can I call?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're very welcome.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Where are you?
unidentified		I'm calling right now from Portland, Maine.
		Okay.
		This happened to me when I was 11 years old or so.
		I was living in Massachusetts at the time.
		I used to be, well, I have asthma.
		I've always had childhood asthma very bad in the hospital a number of times.
		And the way they used to treat it when I was a kid was, well, they just let you work it out.
		They wouldn't give you any medication for it or anything.
		So I would go several days without any sleep.
		And I would see things that I just, I would tell myself that it's not really there.
		But I'd see them as clearly as I'd see the car in front of me.
		But I'd just tell myself, I'd see people in the room.
		I'd see people outside my window.
		And I'd just say, this is crazy.
		I'm just making this up.
		Even when I was 11 years old, it was the only way I could deal with it.
		It was to try to rationalize it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's what the brain does.
		It tries to protect itself.
		So, sure, you actually imagine you're having hallucinations.
		That becomes a very good answer for your brain.
unidentified		Yeah.
		But one morning, it was probably about 4 o'clock in the morning.
		I knew I was very sick at the time.
		Going on probably a third or fourth without any slew, without any sleep.
		And I was lying in bed, and I saw, well, since I've only listened to your show for a little bit, but I guess it would be described as a shadow person, a dark entity came into my room.
		I used to see this dark entity quite a bit, would sit in a chair and watch me.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, you saw it full on.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, see, a lot of these so-called shadow people are just seen, you know, from the corner of the eye, but you saw this full-on sitting there.
unidentified		Well, I saw it full on.
		I don't know if it's a shadow person.
		I don't know what I saw.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, was it somewhere between solid and some degree of translucence?
		Was it solid black?
		What?
unidentified		It was solid black.
		Solid black.
		But my room, you know, would be dark.
		We're talking three or four o'clock in the morning is when I would see it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, good point.
		All right.
		So in what way did this thing finally actually attack you?
unidentified		Well, I remember looking at it once and saying to myself, it's not real.
		And it moved.
		It got up and it walked to the end of my bed.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Perhaps it was offended at your thinking then.
unidentified		I would guess so.
unidentified		And so it grabbed my ankles.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Your ankles.
unidentified		And yanked.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And yanked.
unidentified		And I went out off the footboard of my bed and I went at least my body length and a half, sheets and all, across the room.
		And actually hit a wall.
		I would have gone farther probably, but I didn't hit the wall.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah, mackerel.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And landed on the floor?
unidentified		Oh, yeah.
		I mean, you know, even when I was a kid, I tried to rationalize it.
		You know, maybe it was some muscle contraction or something like that.
		But, I mean, I don't know how I could possibly have done something like that at 11 years old, you know, hurled myself horizontally over the footboard of my bed and across the room.
		I just, I mean, I can still feel something, you know, I can still, you know, think back and remember something grabbing my ankles.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's not a sensation that you would mistake for anything else.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		If something grabs your ankles and throws you across the room, you know what happened to you.
unidentified		And even the physical action of just flying horizontally that distance seven or eight feet.
unidentified		I certainly don't know how I could have done that myself without something doing it to me.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		In what way did you finally rid yourself Of this scourge?
unidentified		Well, we eventually moved.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And when you did, it did not follow?
unidentified		No.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
unidentified		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I really thank you for the story.
		There's one for you right away.
		I got this idea because I was so affected by the young lady who called, well, I don't know, a few nights ago, and she was talking about an attack.
		She's going to send photos.
		They should be here soon, too.
		She's got to get them kinkoed or something.
		Anyway, hands left on the arms, hand marks, bruised hand marks, matching a hand on the arm and the thighs.
		You know, a really serious attack while she was in bed.
		Wildcard line, you are on the air.
unidentified		Hi.
		Hello, sir.
		How are you doing today?
		I'm all right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Where are you?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		This is Dean calling from Tampa, Florida.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, Dean.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		You spoke of Atlantis and perhaps the discovery of Atlantis off Cuba, in fact, and then you mentioned Mars.
unidentified		And ironically, when you first mentioned Atlantis, Mars was the first thing that came to mind.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		I mean, both stories are amazing.
		The Cuba story, in my opinion, because it took the press so long to finally get it.
		But the Mars story, the part, again, that's getting me is if Mars is going to heat up that much, how come the news today didn't have any speculation on what happens to the old third rock from the sun here?
unidentified		Well, sir, if you remember, remember when they discovered that the ice caps were melting at an extreme rate?
		In fact, they reported from that one boat?
		Well, ironically, about five, six years ago, I was in Anchorage, Alaska, and there was a little glacier I used to visit quite often.
		And for about 20 years off Ganon, I used to watch this glacier.
		And for almost, in fact, I got a helicopter coming over my house right now.
		And ironically, I had watched this glacier only resend about half an inch each year.
		And then one year, I think it was 1995.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I can hear the chopper.
unidentified		I know, wasn't that amazing?
unidentified		I'm right next to Ebor's City in the port, so it's MacDell.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Uh-huh.
unidentified		Yes, sir.
		Anyways, I was watching this glacier kind of do its work there only one-fourth of an inch a year, and one summer it disappeared three miles, sir.
		And for a 2,000-year watch of this movement, only watching it doing one-fourth of an inch, something tells me that we are either us or something's happening outside of our Earth that is actually heating us up and melting the caps.
		And ironically, and I'll make this short, Mars to me could be, like you've mentioned before, actually what we used to be on, and this could be our arc.
		Mother Earth could be our arc, ironically, and we must take care of it before we move.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Maybe there's a cycle that moves with the sun where the sun changes so much that Earth virtually becomes uninhabitable.
		Mars becomes habitable.
		During another portion of the cycle, Mars becomes uninhabitable.
		Earth becomes inhabitable.
		I mean, that's really something to think about.
unidentified		Well, sort of think about it.
unidentified		If we dig deep enough, we might just find things like Atlantis and other civilizations if suddenly we look up and realize that, hey, maybe it's a reflection not only of our past, but maybe perhaps our future.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello.
		Thank you very much for the call.
		That man is so right on.
		He is so right on.
		If there are other civilizations in the very, very, very distant past and they did technological things that we still don't know how to duplicate.
		Not certainly in the way they did it, and some we simply cannot duplicate at all, as in the pyramids.
		Well, you could certainly speculate that even farther back than that, a lot farther, far enough back, so you might be 2,100 feet under the sea these days, there could have existed our ancestors who, for whatever reason we still don't fully understand, disappeared.
		But again, this Mars story, I mean, you think about it a little bit, the angle the press, the press should be asking the following question.
		If this is going to happen to Mars, then excuse us, but what will happen to Earth?
		Same song, right?
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Hello.
unidentified		Yeah, good evening.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Good evil.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi.
unidentified		This is Jim.
unidentified		I'm calling from Northern Ontario, listening to you on 640 Emojo Radio out of Toronto.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		There you go.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		I've listened to your show for almost eight years now, and this is the first time I've called in.
unidentified		You've had a lot of phenomenal shows in the past eight years, but last night's show blew me away.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, me too.
		I mean, that was a stopper.
		I can't in any way shoot any hole into her story.
		If there ever was solid proof of the other side, she gave it last night.
unidentified		Well, the only thing I have to say is after listening to that show, I felt such a comfort in what she was saying that I just had to stop my truck and stand out here on the payphone and tell you that it was one of the best shows you've ever had on.
unidentified		We've had a lot of great shows.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I flat out agree with you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you so very much.
unidentified		Anyway, looking forward to David.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Monday.
unidentified		Good night.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you so much.
		I so thoroughly agree with that.
		It was profound.
		I've never heard a story with as much.
		And by the way, her doctor, I understand, would like to be on the air.
		And oh, my, would I like to have him here.
		Her brain surgeon would like to be on the air.
		And I'd love to have him.
		He's done, you know, he pioneered these operations, and there have been about a hundred since.
		But I too, I too.
		It was so solid, it was so credible, it was so impossible to shoot holes in that I think it is strong evidence of the other side, of physical existence after death.
		Excuse me, conscious.
		Physical existence.
		Conscious existence, although she said there was a physical aspect to it after death.
		I mean, no question about it.
		It was that good.
		West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Hi.
unidentified		Hi, Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello.
unidentified		I'm calling, and I have entity attack story.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Boy, even though you're not on my phone, that line was busy.
		All right, well, I will take entity attack stories tonight on any line, but particularly on that one.
		So go ahead.
unidentified		I appreciate that.
unidentified		Real quickly, though, I'm wondering if it'd be possible for you ever had Dr. Lorraine Day back on your show.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I've had her on repeatedly.
unidentified		She's also an expert in AIDS.
unidentified		I'm not sure if that's what you covered with her the last.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		you know, I was interviewing Lorraine Day on Dr. Day on AIDS nine years ago, sir.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Nine years.
unidentified		That is great.
		And by the way, the religion she belongs to, there's a prophet by the name of Ellen G. White.
		You've got to read her books.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		We need to get to the two years ago.
unidentified		I was attacked.
		I woke up one night.
		I kept having nightmares.
		And about the third time I woke up, I felt a piercing in my arm.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		A piercing?
unidentified		A piercing.
		And I woke up and looked, and there was an entity.
		It was a human shape, but it was blackened.
		You couldn't distinguish, you know, facial features.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Do you mean like knives piercing you?
		Do you mean what?
		Give me some analysis.
unidentified		Here is the catch.
unidentified		The entity was there, and the piercing was from a syringe.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		A syringe?
unidentified		A syringe.
		It was an actual physical syringe.
		I could feel and see.
		I turned on the LIDAR and there was three marks that you would get when you had a tetanus shot.
		And there was small amounts of blood.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Whoa.
unidentified		Now here's where the story really gets weird.
		took several pictures of this.
		I had some film and a camera that had some previous pictures Let's take this just a little slower.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Here you wake up, feeling it piercing in your arm, and there are three, what, beings?
unidentified		No, there's three marks.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, so you didn't see any entity.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You didn't see the dream?
unidentified		Yes, I've seen one entity.
unidentified		What?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What?
unidentified		It was a human form.
		It had arms, legs, but it was, how do I describe it?
		It was dark.
		It was black.
		Black, you couldn't see facial features.
		You couldn't see the color of his hair.
		You couldn't see the color of his skin.
		It was like a black void, but it had a human shape to it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So it's like you were given some kind of shot.
unidentified		Yes.
unidentified		And there was obviously, it was swollen in the three different areas where the needle went in.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		And there was, you know, obviously a small amount of blood came out, just like when you get some type of shot at the doctor.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Right.
unidentified		I took a picture.
		Now, before I took the picture of my arm, I just wanted to make sure I have my camera focused correctly.
		And I took a couple pictures of the room, you know, a couple plants and so forth, just to make sure everything was correct.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Testing the camera, yes.
unidentified		Exactly.
		After I took the picture of my arm, I took four pictures.
		When I picked the film up, all the pictures on there were perfect, except for the four that I took on my arm.
		They were completely undistinguishable.
		You couldn't even tell it was a picture of my arm.
		I don't tell this story much because I don't like people to think I'm crazy.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, that's all right.
		I won't do that.
		What kind of effect, if any, from that shot have...
unidentified		Two years ago.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Two years ago.
		A little over two years ago.
		Any effect in the last two years?
		Anything really weird?
unidentified		I notice I have memory lapses from things that happened before that.
unidentified		I don't remember things that took place several years ago that I used to remember with you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		They gave you at least 10 cc's of white juice.
unidentified		Something.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		All right.
		I appreciate the call.
		Thank you very much.
		That is kind of creepy, isn't it?
		You get a shot in the middle of the night by an entity, and then you begin to forget things.
		Wonder if it injected some other memories into him.
unidentified		Hmm.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's a weird one, all right.
		Wild hard line, you're on the air.
		Hi.
unidentified		Hi, Art.
		This is Bill in West Hartford, Connecticut.
		I had two good skeptical questions I wanted to ask Pam Reynolds last night.
		And I wanted to tell you that it's not fair what you did to me to cut me off, as you usually do whenever I call at the top or the bottom of the hour when you have a chance to scream the line to the top or the bottom of the hour because you said, okay, hold up.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Bill, I told you that I am only going to take so many calls from you per week.
unidentified		I haven't called in over two weeks.
unidentified		I think it's been.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Then you better make it good.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Now, what would the two skeptical questions have been?
unidentified		Okay, I want to ask you yourself.
		Thank you for letting me chance to ask you.
		I wanted to say to Pam, and I'll say it to you, could we both have it both ways?
		Let me explain what I mean by that.
		It seems that what she went through, and I believe that she definitely went through an experience.
		She definitely believes she went through an experience.
		The only thing that I'm trying to say that...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You've got to get past the burden of proof shifts to you in that she described and could describe what happened during the hour of surgery, during the hour when she had no brain waves.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Get past that one for me, buddy.
unidentified		That's what I'm trying to do.
unidentified		Hold on.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, do better.
unidentified		Okay, in the operating room, the things that can be verified by the doctors and the nurses, in other words, when she said she saw things, by the way, I don't understand how she could see things without eyes because her eyes were closed and there were no brain waves or hear things without ears.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm glad you don't understand it, but you have yet to explain it.
unidentified		Well, I'm saying the things that can be verified that seem to be definitely paranormal or weird or ESP or maybe the possible data showing that the consciousness exists outside the brain, that the mind and the brain can exist outside the brain, are the things that can be verified by the doctors and the nurses.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		For example, seeing, Bill, I just finished telling you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm going to have the doctor on.
unidentified		Well, what I'm saying is, but the things afterwards in this so-called other dimension, how do you know, for example, the beings there told her that God, the bright light was God breathing?
unidentified		How do you know they weren't lying to her because she wouldn't understand what the real doctor was?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Bill, I hate to say this.
		And I know you're an atheist.
		But you sound frantic, Bill.
		You sound frantic.
		And you sound so frantic that it makes me think that last night's program was exceptionally profound.
		Moreover, you simply, I don't know, you just danced.
		You Frantically danced, Bill.
		And if you really, and apparently you did hear last night's program in your particular position as an atheist, I don't blame you.
		I'd be dancing too.
		If I heard that show last night, I was an atheist, I'd be going, oh.
		Oh.
		Maybe I haven't.
		Maybe I haven't thought this through really thoroughly.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Hello.
unidentified		Hi.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi.
unidentified		It's Kim.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Kim?
unidentified		Winnipeg.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Winnipeg, yes.
unidentified		Yeah.
		A few weeks ago, you had something on your program there, and I've been looking on the internet for it.
		Why do streetlights turn on or off?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You mean when somebody walks by them?
unidentified		Right.
		Uh-huh.
		And I was looking for an explanation.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		If I had one, I'd certainly give it to you.
		I don't know there.
		I mean, there are people who claim that they are, you know, they have some sort of electro-magnetic influence on things near them and that they affect the lights as they go by.
unidentified		Oh, I didn't know.
unidentified		But I've searched the internet high and low for an explanation.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		This is one of those great mysteries, sir.
unidentified		Yeah, one of the wags even said, you know, check your chrome dome.
unidentified		But I've only been a listener for about four or five weeks, and I thought it was interesting.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It is interesting, and you'll hear a lot about it on this program, all right?
		Yeah, thank you.
		Okay, my friend, take care.
		Way up north.
		We're into open lines tonight, except for our Entity Attack Line.
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art bell ▲ ● ▼		Good morning, everybody.
		I want to remind you, we're reserving the first-time caller line for people who have been attacked by some sort of entity, physically attacked by some sort of entity.
		Otherwise, call one of the other lines, open lines.
		Back into the night we go.
		Open lines, wildcard line, you are on.
unidentified		the air hello yes good evening art good evening where are you sir um i'm ronald and i'm in reading california listening to you kqms 1400 a.m yes sir and uh i i just really felt compelled to uh call you on this subject of uh entity attacks oh really because yes really i i have never shared this in full with another living human being i've shared bits and pieces with other people and
		And that generally wound me up in a mental institution of one form or another.
		All right, all right, all right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Just tell me then what happened to you.
unidentified		Well, from the years, I'd say, 87 to 91, I experienced varying degrees of attack, beginning with mental attack, obsessive thinking, voices, shadow people, as you call them, appearing to me.
unidentified		And at the corner of the eyes and darting glimpses and glances and such.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's how it always begins.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		By the way, what kind of phone are you on?
unidentified		I am on a cordless.
unidentified		Can you like me to go to a corded?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, would you please?
unidentified		Okay, hold on.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Let's demonstrate to everybody how much nicer it is.
unidentified		Hello, are you there?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, see, that's so much nicer.
unidentified		Is that better?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, so much better.
		Yes, indeed.
		All right, so anyway, it began as it does for many people with the shadow people at the corner of the eye.
		Then why?
unidentified		Well, I was married, had a good job with the government, and the torment became absolutely unbearable because these things were, the voices became incessant, and it was never a single voice.
		It would be choruses of voices, as you had that one caller speaking of the other day.
		And these things would appear to me at night when I was fully awake, possibly when I was asleep, I don't know, and I would see them.
		And they were generally standing directly over me, and they were, as other callers have described, described, black and dark, but I would go a step further and say these things gave off an emanation of evil such as I have never experienced.
		And the blackness was such that it had a depth and a gravity all of its own that would literally draw and pull myself into it.
		And I would be so terrified that often I would scream.
		And my wife, of course, would assume I was having nightmares.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		At least.
unidentified		When I began to share this, people, of course, assumed that I had some form of schizophrenia.
		And when I went to the mental health professionals in a complete panic one time, that got me my first round into psychiatric treatment.
		And even under the influence of all the psychotropic drugs and all these things were still coming and appearing.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, that would be the obvious.
		I mean, you know, if somebody said what you're saying, they would indeed be diagnosed and treated with some sort of psychiatric drug.
		Yeah, no question about it.
		So it continued through that.
		Did it ever get physical?
unidentified		Yes.
		Toward the end, as I started desperately seeking for solutions outside of the mental health system, I tried everything.
		I read everything I could get my hands on.
		I consulted pastors and preachers, rabbis, anybody.
		And as I tried and tried to seek help for relief from this torment, the attacks got incessant and then they became physical to where, for example, and it seemed nighttime is a favorite to these things.
		I was in my bed at one night and something jumped on my bed and I absolutely froze and it started walking across my bed and I could feel the feet causing depressions in the mattress and also stepping on my legs and then on my midsection.
		I managed to raise my head and by the light being filtered through the curtains, moonlight, streetlight, I could see what appeared to be something between a tarantula and a dog on the foot of my bed.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Bad combination.
unidentified		Moving toward me and I think I let out the most blood-curdling scream and this thing dematerialized, which is how they seem to make their exes.
		They didn't head for a door or go through a wall.
		They would just like a Star Trek beam-me-up type.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So maybe they don't like screams.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's good.
unidentified		Maybe their hearing is sensitive, perhaps.
		That could be.
		And that was the beginning of the end as far as my interactions with them.
		As I started to seek help, and I got in contact with a lady who was very much along the lines and beliefs of the lay father, Martin.
		She started to help me and assist me, and also a missionary fellow.
		And these things increased their torment to where they would try to crush my larynx.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Crush your, you mean choke you to death?
unidentified		Absolutely.
		Absolutely.
		These inky, infinite black creatures that your callers and you have dubbed the shadow people.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Just a name, sir.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Just a name.
unidentified		And crush my larynx or crush my chest and literally try to destroy my ability to breathe or speak.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Or scream.
unidentified		And it would happen in the daytime.
unidentified		You know, eventually I started having heart problems and high blood pressure problems.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I can imagine.
unidentified		And, yeah.
unidentified		I tell you, it was the struggle of a lifetime.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, all right, so how did you rid yourself finally of this?
unidentified		Well, Art, I tell you what.
unidentified		In February of 1991, I locked myself into a bedroom and I went on a fast.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		And I consumed nothing but water and I was on my knees, face down, begging God to remove this from me for two weeks.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And he did.
unidentified		And he did.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's, one, some incredible stories here.
		No question about it.
		If I were to see an entity and it treated me as it treated him, I'd scream too and my scream would sound something like this.
		That, of course, is actually a Bigfoot screen.
		East of the Rockies, you are on the air.
		Hello.
unidentified		Yes, sir.
unidentified		How are you this morning?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm just spitty.
unidentified		Thank you for taking my call.
		Okay.
		The reason why I was calling, I have no idea if you've ever had a guest on the air or anything like that to do dream analysis or anything of that nature.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I've had many dream analysts on the show.
unidentified		Wonderful.
		Maybe you might be able to give me some kind of guidance or some kind of answers to this.
		I'm essentially looking for an evaluation of a repetitive dream.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Of your dreams?
unidentified		Maybe it might have some kind of a symbol or something of that nature that maybe one of your guests might have hit on.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, what was your dream?
unidentified		Well, as childish as it may seem, this dream was actually where I'm being chased, and sometimes it involves members of my family where I'm actually being chased by dinosaurs.
unidentified		Yes, as childish as it may seem, when you're there, you're seeing these dinosaurs dismember people that are around you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, well, listen, when the dinosaurs were here, what, 65 million years ago or whatever, they probably did.
		There's a lot of instances of dinosaur imprints in rock along with human imprints in rock.
		And, you know, we're finding now that it's quite probable that humans were here long before we suspected they were, you know, like back when the dinosaurs were here.
		Well, if that's true, we'd be dinosaur fodder.
		We'd be a tasty little snack for a dinosaur, and I can imagine humans would run real fast away from them.
unidentified		But what really brought reality to this, in fact, I had a dream just last night, actually, where I was being chased by people who wanted to murder me all the time.
		The story always ends where I'm able to somehow manage to escape and to find People nearby in order to try and get some kind of help.
		I've had dreams where I was in law enforcement beforehand.
		This is probably where this dream came from.
		Where I've been gunned down before, where I've been hit repetitively by bullets.
		But like I said, the worst part about it was I have been actually chased down and stalked by murderers.
		And in fact, one murder weapon that was being used, getting ready to be used upon me was a chainsaw at one time.
		And last night I was actually able to, in this dream, I was actually able to escape through a window and try to get help.
		But like I say, I have these repetitive dreams where I'm always being chased by something.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Are you a cop in your dream?
unidentified		No, there's only been one dream where I was actually a law enforcement officer.
unidentified		These dreams usually I know for a fact that I'm a civilian or I'm somebody who is scared, just a victim, I guess, so to speak.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, next time you have your dream, carry a piece.
unidentified		Carry a piece.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Do the damn thing.
unidentified		Does dream in case?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Listen, I'm not a dream analyst.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I have them on, but I wouldn't endeavor to analyze your dream, but it is pretty weird.
unidentified		Does dreaming in color have anything different, bring a different aspect to it by any chance?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I have only my dreams in color are very rare, very rare indeed.
unidentified		All these have happened in color.
		And in fact, last night, I even know that I dreamt in color last night.
		There was blood everywhere, so to speak, and the green of the grass when I was trying to escape and so on and so forth.
		So I don't know if that has any significance in the story at all.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Listen, I will get some responses from people who interpret dreams, and I won't mess with you anymore because I have no idea.
unidentified		We're standing by the radio.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, take care.
		Yes, sir.
		Sure, we have those people on.
		On my entity attack line, you are on the air.
		Hello.
unidentified		Hey, Art, man.
unidentified		It's an honor talking to you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And honor to have you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Where are you?
unidentified		I'm in Memphis.
		Listen to you on 600.
		But my story was when I moved here from Texas, and I used to listen to you all the time on Big 570.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		Click.
unidentified		And mine happened to me when I was living in Dallas, and I was in an apartment, and it started out, you know, me and my friends talking about selling our souls, you know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You sat around talking about selling your souls?
unidentified		Yeah, yeah.
		You know, we would just sit around drinking and stuff and talk about selling our souls and stuff.
		And then we'd actually do it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		May I ask?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You what?
unidentified		Oh, yeah, yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		We'd like actually tried to do it?
unidentified		Yeah, yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Can I really honestly ask what you tried to sell your soul for?
unidentified		In other words, I was like, like money and power and stuff like that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Money and power?
unidentified		Yeah, just like money, you know, and just like be like the richest guy, you know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, how are you doing?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Doing pretty well?
unidentified		Well, the guy told me, you know, if you sell your soul, you know, the devil always screws you so you don't get anything.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I don't know.
		How are you doing?
		Are you having a good life?
		Are you financially pretty well off?
unidentified		Well, yeah, man.
		As a matter of fact, I got a house, man, with like brand new hardwood floors, like four bedrooms right now, and I live by myself.
		But the thing about it was, it started out, you know, as like a joke, you know, because I just wanted to see if it would work and see what would happen.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's no joke.
		I mean, offering to sell your soul, that's a real serious thing.
		Yeah, yeah.
unidentified		I started having these, they didn't start out as a tax at first, but I didn't think much about it.
		I would be in my bed and I would be asleep and I would be like I was in a trance state.
		And the guy that called in earlier at the beginning of the program freaked me out because the same thing would happen to me.
		I would like feel hands, like human hands, and they would push me out of my physical body and I would roll out of my bed onto the floor in spirit form and roll through doors and stuff.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh my God.
unidentified		And I would wake back up, you know, like try to wake myself up and I'd like, you know, open my eyes a little and I would be awake and I couldn't ever stay awake.
		I just like I was tranced or drugged or something and I couldn't stay awake.
		And that kept happening, you know, over and over and over.
		And finally it happened again.
		And what happened was I felt his hands on my ankles dragging me out of my bed.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, here we go again.
unidentified		And I fell onto the floor and started dragging me.
		And it was dragging me across the floor into my bathroom.
		And that's when I woke up in my bed.
		I was like, this isn't fun, you know?
		And I couldn't wake up.
		It was like I was tranquilized or something.
		I couldn't fully wake up.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Sort of paralyzed.
unidentified		Yeah, like I was like, I could open my eyes and sit up for a second, but I couldn't stay awake.
		I was fall back awake, even though you try to.
		So that happened, and I fell back out, and I woke up.
		There was this blood red, like the reddest red I've ever seen in my life.
		Like, the only way I can describe it was it looked like I thought it was the devil or a demon.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You know, very bright red blood is very fresh blood.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It is indeed very bright red when it's fresh.
unidentified		Yeah, this was like, I've never seen a red this red in my life.
		And I was laying down in my bed horizontally, and it was like, I would say only two feet tall.
		And it started attacking me, like hitting me and stuff like that.
		And I was hitting it back, and I was sitting there going, how do I get this thing away from me?
		So I started like, so I said, you know, if I pray to Jesus and God, it would make it go away because I knew it was a demon or the devil itself.
		So I thought if I prayed to Jesus, he would save me.
		And it didn't work.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It didn't work.
unidentified		No, it did not work.
unidentified		I thought for sure if I said, Jesus, save me, you know, and protect me.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It would vanish or something.
unidentified		Yeah, that did not work.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, so then what?
unidentified		Well, what happened was what made it disappear was it literally punched me in my stomach so hard that I woke up and I fell out of my bed onto the floor and I felt physical pain for like at least a good minute and a half after I was wide awake and I moved out of there and to a different state and it hasn't happened since.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, as a matter of sort of finality here, going back to the beginning of what you were saying, you and somebody, how many others, how many of you totally sat down trying to sell your souls to the devil?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How many of you?
unidentified		It was just like me and I think my friends were into it, but I think I was just more into it more than they were.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Leader of the pack, huh?
unidentified		Well, I wouldn't say that.
unidentified		Maybe the moron.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The moron.
		Well, have you tracked, do you remain friends with these others?
		Well, have you kept track of any of them?
unidentified		Not really, because I moved out of state and I haven't really.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But now you're living big.
unidentified		Well, not big, but, you know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It sounds pretty big to me.
unidentified		Well, for my age, it is.
unidentified		I mean, yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How old are you?
unidentified		I'm 25.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		25?
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, the average person, male, probably lives to near 75.
		So you might have a good 50 years to go, let's say, before the mortgage is called in.
		I mean, honestly, sir, don't you worry about having done that sometimes, you know?
unidentified		I do.
		I do all the time.
		And the worst thing about it is I'm sitting there going, you know, I tried selling my soul for all this stuff.
		But I think the trick of it is, you know, I was out on the lake one time, and I was riding this boat, and...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So you had a boat, too.
		Oh, I'm telling you.
		Listen, I'm sorry.
		I got to go.
unidentified		We're here at the bottom of the hour.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Boat, big new house.
		Sold his soul.
		Well, trying to sell his soul.
		Personally, it sounds to me like Ching Ching Sail Maid.
		I'm Art Bell.
unidentified		The Steve Ward Bell, Somewhere in Time.
		Tonight featuring a replay of Coast to Coast AM from December 7, 2001.
		Coast to Coast AM.
		Thank you.
		You are made of the end of my new me.
		I travel the world and I'll never be.
		Everybody is looking for something.
		Some of them want to use you.
		Some of them want to get you by you.
		Some of them want to be you.
		Some of them want to be a beautiful one.
		Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh.
		We need love, made up me.
		Whoever did not read.
		We traveled the world and will never meet everybody looking for nothing.
		You're listening to Art Bell Somewhere in Time.
		The night featuring a replay of Coast to Coast AM from December 7th, 2001.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Good morning.
		We've got an entity attack line, otherwise open lines all night long.
		Devon in Avon, Ohio, or is it Avon?
		Fast blast me, ART.
		I'm 26 married, and my wife was picked up out of our bed, levitated over me while I was sleeping, and then dropped five feet on top of me.
		We called our pastor to bless the house, and he was thrown, and then I didn't get any more than that, Devin.
		If you would like to fast blast me your phone number, I will call you, Devin, because I think I'd like to hear that story.
		It'd be weird to see your wife levitate five feet over you.
		Well, she was asleep at the time, I guess.
		Still, it would be something, wouldn't it?
		I'm Art Bell.
		If you'll stay right there, there's more directly ahead.
		By the way, I want to thank everybody out there for the open line or special line suggestions that they wrote to me.
		I decided myself on the entity attack line merely because I thought back, you know, a few days to that lady who told me about that attack, and it really freaked me out.
		I thought, hmm, wouldn't it be interesting to find out if there's a lot more of that going on?
		And quite obviously there is.
		So I plucked that one out myself.
		Nevertheless, I have saved some of your suggestions for future forays into the unknown.
		A wildcard line, you're on the air.
		Good morning.
unidentified		Hi.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello.
unidentified		Hi there.
		I was calling because a friend of mine actually told me to listen to the station.
		I never listened to your show, and I'm sorry for that, but I was listening, and a lot of these things that are happening to other people have been happening to me since I was two, and I'm 32 now.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So in other words, all that time?
unidentified		Yeah, 30 years ago?
		Pretty much.
		Every night.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Every night, what happens?
unidentified		They don't get violent every night.
		They come to me every night.
		There's two in particular.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Two?
unidentified		Two in particular, but then there's always like dozens around.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Describe what you see.
unidentified		Well, they're hard to describe.
		The closest thing I can get to is, I don't know if you've recently I saw the movie 13 Ghost, and there's one of the bad guys on it that's called The Jackal.
		And if you take the box off his head, that's one of them.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I haven't seen the movie yet.
unidentified		okay.
		Well, I know it's kind of silly, but I started going to Bible study about six months ago, and I started deciding, well, I was going to open up to my friends and tell them what's going on.
		And I did, so they all started praying for me, and it's gotten better, but I still have them on occasion, but they can't physically attack me anymore.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But they did.
unidentified		Oh, yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How bad?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What was the worst of it?
unidentified		They'd throw me through windows.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What?
unidentified		My parents ended up boarding up my windows in my bedroom and locking my doors.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What?
unidentified		Yeah, they'd throw me through windows.
		They would throw me up against the wall.
		It actually started getting violent.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Didn't it occur?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I guess it's better to be thrown up against a board than it is a window, so I guess I understand what they did, but holy mackerel.
unidentified		Yeah, they were actually kind of ashamed, I think, because we didn't know what was going on.
unidentified		They've taken me to dream psychologists and...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hey, Lizzen, getting tossed through the window.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's a pretty loose thing.
unidentified		Well, they thought that I was doing it for attention.
		They thought because I was afraid of the dark because from two to seven, they were not violent.
		They would come in my room and play with me.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So they were, your parents were perhaps embarrassed at their daughter sailing out the window every now and then and boarded the window of them.
unidentified		Right.
unidentified		Or because I'd get bruises and cuts.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, oh, well, sure.
unidentified		And they didn't want me to go to school because they thought the school would think I was being abused.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Good point.
unidentified		And my family had a different religion, the Acoma religion, it's an Indian religion.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Really?
unidentified		And so they'd bring in the medicine man and he would do his thing.
		And I never really agreed with it, but I never knew too much about Jesus.
		And when I was seven years old, I told a friend in second grade, I told her what was happening to me, and she gave me a little hand Bible she kept in her little backpack.
		It had pictures in it and stuff.
		And she said, pray to Jesus.
		He'll save you.
		So I took this home and my stepdad grabbed it and threw it in the fireplace because he was an atheist.
		And he told me.
		Like Bill.
		I'm sorry.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Like Bill.
unidentified		Like what?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Bill from Hartford.
		He's an atheist.
		He says he is anyway.
		Although he sounded really frantic tonight.
unidentified		I'm not sure.
		I wasn't.
		I just listened to last like five minutes.
		My friend just called me.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		He said, five minutes experience with the program?
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Wow.
unidentified		I don't listen.
		Well, because, frankly, I always thought the people that called you were weirdos.
		And I never believed in like crop circles and all that stuff.
		Well, anyways, I don't want to get into all that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, you know, it's not that your story is, I mean, I would rate you mid to upper scale in terms of, you know, as I look at all my stories.
unidentified		Well, I know, but that's not.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You ought not cast stones.
unidentified		That's why I'm saying that when I heard this stuff, I'm like, wow, other people are dealing with this.
unidentified		Well, my friends have told me, you know what, there are other people out there.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But the fact of the matter is, it's real, you see.
unidentified		Oh, yeah, it's extremely real.
		And what I was telling you was when I was seven and I asked Jesus to come sleep with me to keep me safe that night, that's when they got violent.
		They got extremely violent.
		Well, they threw me into the wall and put a hole in the wall and popped my eardrum from the blow.
		So my mom had to take me to the hospital or whatever.
		She thought that I had did something because I didn't want to sleep alone.
		I was afraid of the dark.
		Well, she started believing me after a while when things like my door was ripped off the hinges and the door frame would be shredded, but no one woke up through any of it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And I thought I had a troubled childhood.
unidentified		Oh, yeah.
unidentified		Well, actually, a friend of mine, Matthew Kitchens, is going to be writing my book.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, you're going to write a book?
unidentified		Yeah.
		I've decided to, actually, I was pretty ashamed of it, and I never really wanted to share it.
		But now that I found Jesus and I'm a born-again Christian, I'm realizing that I don't have anything to be ashamed of.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, Matthew, did you hear about the person who called a little while ago, and they said they tried to cast this thing out with the name of Jesus and so forth, and it didn't work?
unidentified		Well, when I tried that, it got violent.
		But see, I was also on, I didn't know anything about Jesus, really.
		I didn't know what I was doing, and I didn't have any faith.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, all right.
		Thank you very, very much for the story.
		I understand.
		I thought as an experiment, I would have somebody cast out the devil in the name of talk show host Art Bell, and they tried that.
		And boy, it didn't work out at all.
		That was a very bad day for that person.
		They called in the other day.
		Say that, give it a try.
		They tried it, and I guess there was a mauling.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Hello.
		Sounds like you're in a well.
unidentified		No, no, I'm not in a well at all.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, it sounds like you are.
unidentified		Art, I have a great story.
		A few years ago, I experienced what I was told was a hag attack.
		Have you ever heard of that?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		A hag attack?
unidentified		A hag attack.
unidentified		I read it in a book.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I've been attacked by hags myself.
unidentified		You have?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yes.
		Oh, Art.
		Two or three of them in my life.
		I mean, they seem to be nice girls.
		They seemed to be nice girls when I met them, but oh, did they turn into hags?
		No, I know.
		What do you mean by hag?
unidentified		I read a book.
unidentified		It was called Vampires Among Us.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Vampires Among Us, yes.
unidentified		Vampires Among Us.
		I can't remember the name of the author, but in the book, it talks of hag attacks, and it says that maybe 10 to 15 percent, even more, of the population has been affected by them.
		And a few years ago, something happened to me.
		Well, what specifically is a hag?
		What the book explained it as was exactly this.
		I was laying in my bed, and I was completely awake.
		I'd only been there for maybe 20 minutes.
		And from the corner of my room, inside of the vent that the heater comes from, I saw a black, like a black ball.
		And all of a sudden, over the next few seconds, this ball turned into a larger ball and came through the vent.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah.
		You know, both open closet doors and vents, which lead into cavernous areas connected to each other, have got to be breeding grounds for crap like this.
		But anyway, so it came out the vent.
unidentified		It came out the vent.
		I tried to think that maybe it was just my imagination.
		I grabbed my hands.
		I pulled my hands over the front.
		And it became larger, like a huge moving ink block.
		And it started to, like, well, it didn't, but the room, I noticed a smell.
		And I became nervous, and I tried to get up, I couldn't.
		It became larger, and it hovered over me.
		I became completely frightened, more fear than anything I'd ever experienced.
		I tried to move, I looked, I could barely move my head over, I couldn't move my arms.
		I saw it growing larger and larger.
		I closed my eyes.
		It began to press me like into my bed.
		I tried to scream, gurgles came through my throat.
		My grandparents were down the hall.
		There was no way they could hear me gurgles when I tried to scream.
		I was pressed into my bed.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You mean a scream?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		A scream turned into nothing more than a scream?
unidentified		I couldn't even get a breath out.
		It was so intense.
		And I couldn't believe this was happening to me instantly, like the last caller who said that he prayed to Jesus and he tried to get something.
		Nothing happened.
		Well, that wasn't the case for me.
		I prayed to Jesus and I prayed to the Lord and I asked them to cast whatever it was out of my room.
		And it took no longer than 10 to 10.
		It felt like an hour.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And it smelled really bad.
unidentified		Like rotten eggs.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Like rotten eggs.
		Okay, well, we're going to dub that one the Mr. Hinky Monster.
		It hovered over him.
		and it was foul.
		That's actually scary stuff, you know.
		I mean, it's really scary stuff.
		What are these things?
		What are these things?
		West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Hello.
unidentified		Hello.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi.
unidentified		How's it going?
unidentified		Yeah, I have an entity attack story.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You too, huh?
		I mean, I've got this special entity attack line, and you guys, there's so many of them, you're leaking my other lines.
		Okay.
unidentified		Well, you know, it's amazing to think, though, that how common I think it actually is.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Apparently.
unidentified		Yeah, it's, I think, well, I have a theory on what happened, but first let me tell you what happened to me.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
unidentified		Okay, when I was about eight, probably about eight years old, I remember I was at a house that I was living at with my grandparents and my father and his ex-wife.
		Well, I was in the room, okay, and I was scared, you know, just basically because of the dark.
		I didn't like sleeping in the dark.
		So then my dad left the front door or the bedroom door open with the hall light on so that I wouldn't be quite as afraid.
		Well, I began to lay down, and I remember I was still, you know, kind of scared.
		And I laid there for a while, and I remember feeling afraid still.
		But I hit my head under the covers, you know, like kids do.
		But I was too afraid to go to sleep.
		So I know I was 100% awake.
		And I felt a presence, like I have through my life at many times, actually, but I felt this presence.
		And I was on a bunk bed, and I was on the top bunk.
		And whatever this was, of course, I believe it was a spirit, well, it pushed me on my chest.
		Now, when it pushed me on my chest, it didn't just push me and, you know, I felt a push.
		I mean, it pushed me.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So if I'd been on the bottom bunk, I would have seen this giant indentation forming, right, as pressed toward wood.
unidentified		And you would have also heard the thump that came when I bounced off the bed and hit the ceiling directly from it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You hit the ceiling.
unidentified		I hit the ceiling because it was really close to the ceiling anyways, and it was a pretty bouncy mattress.
		But when it pushed me, and I bounced, and they hit the ceiling, I remember I was so frozen with fear, you know, and I could barely yell.
		But when I finally was able to, man, man, my dad, he knew I was like scared.
		So he came in there, and I told him something pushed me.
		And I told him that it hurt my chest, and so he opened up my chest.
		And, you know, it's funny with all the stories that you've had on your program of people saying that there are handprints and things.
		well sure enough i had to have friends on my chest uh...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		bro which is weird you know because it's like No, it's not weird because it verifies what you just said.
unidentified		what did your dad say well my dad and my family I mean I don't mean to sound you know like everybody's got their ghost stories and stuff but my family we've been very very open to these types of occurrences but you know it's like are you Exactly.
		But I think I do.
		I do know that they are personally from within, but that's just something different.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		In other words, you created this thing yourself.
unidentified		So my perception itself of its existence.
		Like, in other words, why would it actually have the ability to physically assault somebody if it's not physical?
		I believe it's because of the awareness of what it wants to do.
		And sometimes if you are fearful, like a child often is, then it preys on fear.
		And that which is of fear becomes and manifests into physical.
		See what I mean?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I see exactly what you mean.
		And I think that that's entirely possible, that the amount of fear is actually able, an emotion, is able to generate that which is feared.
		It builds on itself, and it feeds on itself, and you create it.
		Yes, that's as good an explanation as any.
unidentified		And perfect love, you know, it's been said in the Bible, you know, not that I'm a Bible thumper, but, you know, it's like I can see validity in all religions.
		By faith I'm a Christian, but I couldn't see Jesus giving Buddha a black eye, you know.
		But I think without a doubt, hands down, that perfect love, as it says, casts out fear, but I think perfect love comes through being wise through the years, right?
		And basically through growing as a human being.
		But when you're a child, you're naive and you're sensitive to these things.
		And that's why it comes to children a lot.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Can you know perfect love without having experienced perfect fear, perfect anger, perfect depression?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You know, in other words, can you understand perfect love until you've been the other place?
unidentified		Well, you know, believe it or not, my personal feel on that is that when you actually feel perfect love and when you experience it and you find it, of course it does come through Rising above not being perfect.
		But see, rising above not being perfect has to come through serious pain.
		It's a medicine of the soul.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's what I think too, sir.
		Thank you very, very much for the call.
		I just don't think you could know it and certainly not appreciate it unless you had experienced the opposite.
		On my entity attack line, you are on the air.
unidentified		Hello.
		Yeah.
		I'm Richard in Houston.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi, Richard.
unidentified		About 1979, I was sleeping here beside my wife.
		I woke up.
		Something was pushing me down onto the mattress.
		And I couldn't see anything.
		I could see the ceiling at all.
		And I was desperate.
		I couldn't breathe.
		And I couldn't yell.
		I tried to yell, and all would come out was a little bitty squeak out of my voice.
		And I was frantic.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It wasn't like hands pressing.
unidentified		All it was a weight on my entire body.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So an overall weight.
unidentified		Overall weight.
		And I struggled and struggled and struggled harder, and I was getting desperate for breath.
		And I must have struggled hard or something.
		It just gave up because when it quit, when it let up, the mattress rose an inch or two, and then it was gone.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		If you had not struggled against it, what do you think would have happened?
unidentified		I have no idea.
unidentified		I was in a panic.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I'm sure you were.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But you didn't consider what might have occurred.
unidentified		Well, no.
unidentified		You mean given in to it?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, or not, just not struggled.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Perhaps somebody else might have imagined they couldn't struggle against something like this, and they would have just submitted.
unidentified		I don't know.
		I know it was heavier than I am.
		I weighed 200.
		Well, by the way, can I mention one more thing?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		That sound you have with the Bigfoot?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		That's not a Bigfoot.
unidentified		That's a U.S. Navy sonar.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, people have said that.
unidentified		How do I know?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, yeah, but how do I know?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Is it more important?
unidentified		I know the sound.
		I'm a retired chief sonarman.
		I heard that sound.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Believe me, I've heard this.
		But we have providence on this sound, sir.
		In other words, we know who recorded it where they were in the woods, not under sea.
		A lot of people have said it sounds like sonar, and I understand that it does sound a little bit like that.
		But trust me when I tell you we have the providence on this tape, and that it is not sonar.
		We know who recorded it and where.
		Wildcard line, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hello.
		Art?
		Yes.
		Well, you cut me off on the other line, but I have an attack story, but I wasn't alone.
		I had someone with me.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What do you mean?
unidentified		Well, I was with my girlfriend in the desert, and this happened in March of 1993.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And what happened?
unidentified		Well, I was observing some lights about 100 miles away coming from the south, going due north.
		Looked like it was coming from San Diego up over Palm Springs.
		And I observed this for about 10 minutes.
		I called my girlfriend's attention to this.
		We were camping out near 29 Palms.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Right.
unidentified		And I did my last year and a half in the Navy at Top Gun.
		There's so many aircraft flying around down there, it's hard to keep track of them.
		This one got my attention, and I couldn't tell you exactly why, but and this sounds bizarre, but I've never told anyone this story.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, we've got less in a minute, so.
unidentified		Well, I'm dying to know if there's other people that had something like this happen, but this ball, this light ball, came out of this large craft, and it came right up in front of us about 48 inches away.
		It was about the size of a basketball.
		It was extremely brilliant.
		It looked like the end of a sparkler.
		And it literally, I could feel it scan my brain quickly.
		And then it went to my girlfriend and it spent some time with her and then it left.
		It shot up into the sky and went back to this large craft.
		She was very traumatized by this and spent about eight months in therapy.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Boy, that's some story.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And you, you sound okay, huh?
unidentified		Well, we were frightened to death.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I know, believe me, I understand.
		All right, thank you very much.
		From a craft, a ball of light scanning the brain, and then wonder what it did with the information that it downloaded from you, apparently.
		I'm Art Bell.
		This is Coast to Coast AM.
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art bell ▲ ● ▼		From the land where things go perumps in the night.
		This is Coast to Coast AM and I'm Art Bell.
		Great to be here.
		We've got a special line open for entity attacks.
		It's my entity attack line.
		Only those who have actually been physically attacked by an entity qualify.
		Any other cause can delve into any subject you wish.
		It's an open line Friday night, Saturday morning.
		If you'll stay right there, we'll get right back to it.
		Well, you should see some of the fast blasts that I'm getting tonight.
		Shelly in California writes, I was attacked by a spirit who plunged a butcher knife into my pillow and then told me what he wanted.
		Shelly, you should fast blast me your phone number.
		No one else will see it, just me.
		And I'll call you and we'll get that story on the air.
		So if you have a similar story, and it's really a very, very good one, you know, you can fast blast me a phone number, and I'd be more than happy to get hold of you.
		In the meantime, the lines are jammed, so the odds of any single person making it through are, you know, somewhat slim.
		On my entity attack line, you are on the air.
		Hello.
unidentified		Hello there.
unidentified		How are you doing?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm well, I'm okay.
unidentified		Good, sir.
unidentified		Mr. Paul Collins from KSTE.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Sacramento?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Sacramento, right?
unidentified		Yes, sir.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
unidentified		I'm a assistant pastor in church.
unidentified		6 feet 9, 370 pounds.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You are 6 feet 9, 370?
unidentified		Yes, sir.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Aye, aye, aye.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So you're not like a bouncer for the church, right?
unidentified		Oh, no, sir.
		Of course not.
		This is what happened, sir.
		Even I don't believe it, but it happened.
		Matter of fact, it happened this year in March.
		I was in bed sleeping.
		Next thing you know, of course, they have a specialized California Kingside bed to sleep in.
		I'm so big.
		However, it went through, right through the door, an entity.
		It went right through the door.
		I'm looking right at it.
		And it's coming right towards me.
		And just about, I'm getting ready to leap on it because I thought it was someone who broke in the house.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, of course.
unidentified		And I looked at it, I said, whoa, no face.
		no face Yes, very bad.
		No face.
		It wasn't walking.
		It was gliding towards me.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Gliding, another bad sign.
unidentified		No hands.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Real bad.
unidentified		And it said, I'm going to get you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, man.
unidentified		I said, I'm sorry, but you're not going to get me.
		And all of a sudden, it stopped.
		It reversed, floated.
		If I'm not going to get you, I'm going to get your wife.
		He went towards my wife, grabbed her ankles, throw her off the bed onto the floor.
		It hit her head and whole body hit the floor, big loud thump.
		Immediately I got up and I wanted to just, of course, beat the hell out of whatever it was.
		Immediately, as soon as I turned the light on, it was gone.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And your wife?
unidentified		And my wife.
		On her ankles, she's a very light-skinned woman.
		And there was two marks, just say not two, but two hand imprints, eight in total.
		And like imprints of a hand.
		And immediately, we're looking at it, up her, this is on the ankle now, up, going up from the ankle towards her middle inner thigh, it started to bleed.
		This skin started to bleed.
		Immediately, of course, I applied pressure on it, it stopped.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Was there a physical cut, a reason for the bleeding, or was this just blood through the skin?
unidentified		This is just a blood coming from and through the skin.
unidentified		No cut at all.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Holy moly.
unidentified		And it's amazing because, remember, this happened in March of this year.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		I'm a heart patient.
unidentified		A month later.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're lucky to still be alive now.
unidentified		That's correct.
		A month later, I was in the hospital in San Francisco, and the same thing happened to me again.
		I was supposed to be there for a couple days.
		I was there for three weeks in the hospital.
		What happened was on the third night, my heart stopped.
		Yeah, this has stopped.
		I didn't know it stopped.
		Immediately off to the right, there was the same entity again.
		It reminded me of the headless, what's called it?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Headless horseman?
unidentified		Yes.
		I mean, there's nothing, I mean, the hood, the hood, no face, and it said, it's time to come with me now.
		I looked at him, I said, I'm not scared of you, whoever you are, and I'm not coming with you.
		Immediately it said that it was coming towards me, and then automatically, the nurse or the doctor was putting those two, what's it called, stuff to paddles on my chest.
		Immediately I woke up.
		And I said, what happened?
		They said, I went into heart failure, and my heart stopped for the last eight seconds.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Horrible stuff.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Listen, you don't have to answer this if you don't want to, but I am curious.
unidentified		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What kind of life have you led?
unidentified		Afterwards?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, no.
		No, no.
		Previously.
unidentified		What type of life?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, in other words, well, let me sort of lay it out this way.
		It seems as though at critical moments, you're having encounters with folks that aren't likely to lead you to the up-escalator.
		And so, you know, I'm just kind of curious what kind of life you led.
unidentified		Oh, got married, wow, a year out of college.
		I'm 45 years old now.
		Went from, I played professional football for one year, had to stop because the heart.
		I was born with a heart-heart problem.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Who did you play for?
unidentified		Seattle Seahawks.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You played for the Seahawks?
unidentified		Yes.
		And then, after I got waived, my wife is from Hawaii.
		So I went to Hawaii and I got hired over there on a very prominent bank over there.
		I stayed there for the last, wow, 18, 19 years.
		Let's get back recently.
		But again, the heart started to act up again.
		That's why I had to get out of that banking environment.
		I was left as senior vice president of the bank.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Banking's probably as bad as professional football for the heart.
unidentified		Yes, it is.
		But it's just, again, I've been listening to the program the last 15 years and I was inclined to called because this is true.
		I can't believe it.
		I mean, it only happened once.
		happened twice and it's very very very It's just wife is petrified.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Would have done the trick for me.
		What's it like listening to other people with somewhat similar stories?
		It must be strange.
		I mean, I'm sure a lot of people think this only happens to them and maybe in the movies.
unidentified		Oh, no.
unidentified		Again, I remember I used to be an assistant pastor in the church.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Right.
unidentified		Had stuff of the heart.
		I heard many, many stories in the church.
		I went to a went to a with a Catholic pastor.
		I'm sorry, let's call those guys.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It could have been a bishop.
unidentified		Yeah, it could have been about five years ago to help assist him exercise a person.
		And I firmly believe that whatever it was was polyfolled in me.
		Because the person, it took about a long time to get that energy out of the particular individual.
		And it was very, very nerve-wracketing.
		Because it takes a lot of years to go through this training.
		And at the time, again, I had the heart problem.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I hope in the future, any future crisis you have brings something a little brighter to light your way, my friend.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you so much for the call.
unidentified		Oh, you welcome, sir.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, you take care.
		Wow.
		You just, you know, you never know.
		I mean, when you open up these kinds of lines, you never know what you're going to get.
		And we're definitely getting our money's worth tonight.
		I had no idea that there really were so many, there are so many of you out there that have been attacked in such a violent way.
		It's astounding.
		Wildcard line, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hello.
		Yes.
		Hello.
		Yeah, I went to Job Corps back in the early 80s and met a guy that told me stories about how him and his family were severely attacked by demons all the time and that his little brother and stuff would end up with black eyes and just bad luck all the time.
		I mean, it was horrible the way he described his life.
		They'd be like driving out of the parking lot and the wheels would fall off their cars and just numerous accounts of just horrible encounters with different type of entities in their home and stuff.
		And we were talking one night and all of a sudden, out of the blue, right up in the little corner of the room, it was like there were tens of thousands of angels in a circle looking down on us.
		It was like all these eyes were just beaming down on us.
		Yes.
		And I know this sounds really freaky, but I'm telling you, at the same time, we both seen it, and just chills just went up and down our body.
		And it was the most frightening thing.
		I mean, it was frightening, but in another sense, it was kind of...
		It may have been.
		But I tell you, and when me and my brother were children, we used to get visited by this woman called the Dostoll Woman.
		She used to climb down out of the attic from the closet.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		She lived or appeared in...
unidentified		Yeah, she came down out of the attic every night.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Every night?
unidentified		Yeah, and she would look at us and stuff.
		She was a dark figure.
		And I mean, you talk about two scared kids.
		We were horrified.
		Our hair would stand up on the back of our necks and just goosebumps all over us.
		And we would try to scream, and you couldn't get nothing out, you know, because you're so horrified.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What did she want?
unidentified		I don't know.
		We told our mom and dad about it.
		And our mom, she kind of believed us, but our dad, you know, he always was real skeptical.
		He didn't believe anything.
		And one night it sounded like somebody was setting the table in the dining room with knives, forks, spoons, plates, just like somebody was setting the table like about 2.30 in the morning.
		And my brother and I, we were petrified, you know, because we had this room right off the dining room, and my mom and dad were in the front of the house, and we were witnessing all this stuff, and we could see like two legs, white legs.
		Do you know what I mean, like the pajamas of the old-fashioned pajamas?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
unidentified		Yeah, with the lace around the bottom.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Sure, sure.
unidentified		Now we would see two legs jumping over the table back and forth and then walk around the table and you could hear plates and stuff being set out on the table.
		Then the spirit would come through the doorway there into our room and walk around our bed and grab our legs and stuff.
		And it was just horrible.
		I mean, we were petrified kids for a long time.
		we live with this you know and this this first time i've ever told anybody you know and i know a lot of people are hearing this right now but yeah it's not something you would you Yeah, and I tell you, we've had so many things happen, Art.
		I could go on and on and on.
		we're the ones that had the rocks raining on us.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Rocks raining on you.
unidentified		Yes, this is very true.
unidentified		In California, Missouri, it rained rocks on us for three days.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yep, I know.
		Someone else gave us that a little while ago.
		I find that, you know, I have a hard time with that one.
		Three days of rocks.
		Should have had lots of pictures, huh?
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Hello.
unidentified		Hello?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello.
unidentified		Okay, I wasn't sure if it was me.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, it is.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Where are you?
unidentified		I'm in Hickson, Tennessee.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, ma'am.
unidentified		My name is Mary.
		I've been listening to you for a long time.
		How's your back, by the way?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Actually, Mary, it's better than it's been in a long, long time.
unidentified		Good.
		I'm glad.
		We missed you.
		Or I did anyway.
		Thank you.
		I wanted to talk to you about the attacks also.
		All my life, myself and my family have been attacked by things.
		Most of the time, it's in the bed or in the bedroom.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yep, that seems to be almost, almost a constant.
unidentified		In fact, one night something was grabbing my hand like it was trying to pull me out of bed.
		Oh.
		Another night, I woke up, I couldn't breathe, and I just saw two red eyes and this black figure.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Red eyes.
unidentified		Red eyes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I hate red eyes.
unidentified		I don't like them either.
		It scared me.
		And that happened more than once.
		I couldn't breathe.
		I couldn't scream.
		I couldn't move.
		It was like a battle of wills.
		That's the only way I could describe it.
		It was a battle of will to get this thing off of me.
		I have had out-of-body experiences and I've been chased by them.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And now I really like to ask this question.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		If you hadn't resisted, if you had let this thing, this black thing with red eyes, proceed to what it was going to do, if you'd been frozen in fear and couldn't have moved, what do you think would have happened?
unidentified		Well, I was frozen, but it wasn't in fear.
		I just couldn't move.
		But I think it was trying to take me over.
		I believe this.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Possession.
unidentified		Yeah.
		And it's not just myself this has happened to.
		It's happened to my husband.
		It's happened to a couple of my brothers.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, the thing about possession is we have no way of knowing how many possessed people there are.
		I mean, it may well be that the changes in personality, at least in the beginning, are fairly subtle.
		But the possession increasingly takes control once it occurs.
		And how would we ever know, any of us here on Earth, how many are really possessed?
unidentified		I don't know about anyone else, but I've always, I can feel if there's something wrong with people.
unidentified		And I can usually see it in their aura.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, there certainly are people where, you know, you just immediately know something is really wrong.
unidentified		I believe my father was possessed because he was one of the most evil men I ever met in my life.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Your own father.
unidentified		My own father.
		I believe he was possessed because he enjoyed hurting people.
		And he didn't care who knew.
		And he was charismatic.
		He was like the devil incarnate himself.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You mean in other ways he was charismatic?
unidentified		Yeah.
		He could be cruel and mean, and nobody seemed to see it.
		Even though he was being mean and cruel to them.
		It's like they couldn't tell.
		But I've always had a sense about it, and people that were like that, I just can't be around.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The certain shiv, you know.
unidentified		I don't know what it is, but I'm real sensitive to, I guess, spirits and things.
		I see things.
		I know things.
		Scary things.
		I know when people are going to die.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, you do?
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I was going to say, maybe it simply runs in the family.
unidentified		Well, I think a lot of it has to do with the Indian background in our family.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh.
unidentified		Because Indians tend to be more inclined to be open to spirits.
unidentified		And I believe my mother, her family was, her line was medicine woman.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, you've got a pretty serious background there.
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And so I guess that accounts for a lot of it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I wonder why she, though, with her sensitivity, ended up marrying a man who had this incredible mean streak.
unidentified		Well, hers was more in the healing arts.
		She could heal with anything.
		She had a lot of the used a lot of the Indian ways to heal.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But why would she have been attracted to such a mean man?
unidentified		I'm not sure.
		I think it was she was her second husband, and he promised to take care of her and her family and treat her kids as if they were his own.
		But he didn't.
		Well, actually, he did, too, I guess, because he was equally cruel.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Equally cruel.
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, listen, I've got a scoot.
unidentified		Thank you.
unidentified		Well, I thank you, and I have one more question.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, you'll have to hold on.
unidentified		It is Edward Bell somewhere in time.
		Tonight, featuring a replay of Coast to Coast AM from December 7th, 2001.
		Old time movie about a ghost from a wish in well in a castle dark or a fortress dark with chains upon my feet.
		You know that ghost is big And I will never be
		You know that ghost is big
		You know that ghost is big
		Radio Networks presents Art Bell Somewhere in Time.
		Tonight's program originally aired December 7th, 2001.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Good morning from the high desert and a little town called Perrump, Nevada.
		To the nation, actually, to the world.
		We're talking about, well, mainly entity attacks tonight.
		No shortage of stories there, to be sure.
		Only physical attacks need apply.
		All other lines, anything you want to talk about.
		But interestingly, even those have been filling up with attack stories.
		Ever expect you'd hear so many?
		I certainly didn't.
		But then again, I'm constantly surprised about this program.
		Well, if you're out there driving across the country tonight in the middle of the night in the darkness, you're probably spending a lot of time looking in the rearview mirror, I'd suspect.
		All right, my caller, East of the Rockies, here has something else.
		Go ahead.
unidentified		Hi.
		Yeah.
		Also, earlier this week, I heard that Dick Clark is going to be hosting the New Year's celebration in New York.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Is he, really?
unidentified		Yeah, as soon as he said that, I got a flash.
		And I'm worried that something else is going to happen in New York.
		I have not had enough trouble.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, New Yorkers are worried about that, too.
		Thank you very much.
		Yeah, a lot of people concerned about that, not the least of which would be New Yorkers.
		Everybody's concerned about it.
		And we really need to be extremely cautious, by the way.
		Even though we're hearing that, you know, we're mopping up and wrapping up with the Taliban in Afghanistan.
unidentified		This is far from over, far from over.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And so we really need to remain on alert and expect about anything, and we'll probably get it.
		West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Hello.
unidentified		Hi, Art.
		Hello.
		Hi.
		I have a couple of quick stories to tell you.
		I'll give you the first one that's more amazing than the other.
		The first one is, when I was a young man, 22, I shared an apartment going through school with some roommates, and we started messing around with the Ouija board.
		And I have to catch my breath because this still sets me back a few steps just to think about it.
		We did the Ouija board, and we saw some things happening.
		We saw the doors open and close by themselves.
		We saw the Ouija board leave the floor and fly off by itself.
		All kinds of strange things like that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You know, listen, playing with Ouija boards, it's not quite as serious as sitting around with some people and trying to sell your soul.
unidentified		Oh, I'm getting to that part.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, really?
unidentified		Yes, sir.
		Oh.
		For some reason, I decided that I wanted to have power.
		And I started threatening the devil.
		And I started saying, you know what, I think Jesus is the king, and I don't think that you are anything, and I think you're fake, and you're a fraud, and so prove it to me that you are all-powerful.
		And nothing happened.
		I walked up to the wall, and I stood at the wall, and I held my hand out as though I was Jesus on a cross, and I said the following.
		This is very difficult for me to talk about because I'm a Christian, and I've renewed my faith, and so I don't like to give the devil any more credence.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's all right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Lay it out for us the way it happened.
unidentified		Well, this is the way it happened.
		I was up against the wall.
		I had my hands out.
		My legs were just, I assumed the position just like Jesus was on the cross.
		And I said, I want to have power.
		I want to have, oh, this is difficult.
		I want to have intercourse with you so that you could put your seed in me so that I could have your power.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You said this to the devil.
unidentified		Yes.
		Now, you're only the second person I've told this to.
		My wife may be listening.
		I don't remember if I told her or not, but anyway, I'm 34 now.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		May I advise you on that subject?
unidentified		Sure.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Don't tell her.
unidentified		Well, no, she went to bed.
unidentified		She said she was going to bed.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Good.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Don't tell her that.
unidentified		But in any case, this is when the lights started flickering and things started flying across the room and that kind of thing.
unidentified		When I was a young boy, the second story, when I was a young boy.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You know what?
		You're not going to do better than that.
		And besides that, I'm sure you've given it some thought since, but very regretful of it, actually.
		Regretful, yeah.
		What makes you think that you didn't get your wish?
unidentified		Well, that's very profound.
		I think at times, perhaps I have.
		I've done some really things that I'm not proud of.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I hear you.
unidentified		I hear you.
unidentified		I don't like to even think about it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Well, look, I'll take it at that.
		Thank you.
		You know, that's freaky.
		Have you ever listened to people like that man before in your life?
		People who have either sold their soul to the devil, made a deal, or invited the seed of the devil to live within them.
		Can you imagine, can you imagine doing that?
unidentified		Aye, aye, aye.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's really freaky stuff.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And for every moment of your life, after you've done something like that, you would have to wonder...
unidentified		if the deal really wasn't consummated on my entity attack line you're on the air mr. Bell yes sir yes I'm I'm I'm calling uh regarding uh an attack made on my mother back in the early 80s your mother yes sir okay I'm calling from Victorville California it's kind of a comical story not to make light of the subject but one evening we we've seen shadows and colors and things in our peripheral vision at times in
		the house knocking.
		One evening my mom went to sleep and she said she was in a real deep sleep that night.
		For some reason she is usually a light sleeper.
		When she had woken up in the morning she had felt some soreness and sensitivity around one of her eyes.
		I believe it was the left one.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Around her eye, yes.
unidentified		She got up and she went into the restroom and once she wiped the sleep out of her eyes she looked into the mirror and she noticed some blackening and bruising around her eye.
		Oh really?
		And her eyebrow on top of the same eye was plucked to perfection.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		To perfection?
unidentified		To perfection.
unidentified		The thinnest, most perfect plucking she had ever seen in her life.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So it was a cosmetically perfect attack.
unidentified		Yes sir.
unidentified		And she did not feel no pain while it was happening but she could tell that it had been plucked because of the sensitivity she had felt in the morning.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Wow.
		Yes.
		What did she conclude from this out of curiosity?
unidentified		You might have thought what we were thinking of was some type of female spirit who was real, if you might say vain, and had a problem with my mom's eyebrows.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Offended in some way by your mom's eyebrows.
unidentified		Yes.
		My mom did keep plucked and did keep trimmed but for some reason I believed she was not happy with it and took it upon him or herself.
		Did you happen to take them?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Did you happen to notice whether following that attack your mom's eyebrows were plucked regularly and neatly?
unidentified		No.
unidentified		Actually that was the only time that my mom was actually affected by the entity or spirit.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well I know but I was just wondering if she personally, you know, concluded that she should keep her eyebrows in better repair.
unidentified		No.
		No.
		I think she went well, obviously she had to match up the other one.
		So she went ahead and plucked the other one to try to get it to look like the first one that had been done.
		Yeah.
		And uh, but she never kept them that way again.
		She went ahead and let them go back out.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well I tell you, I had taken that one as a warning.
		I really appreciate the story sir.
		Thank you.
		You're welcome.
		Take care.
		That's the first cosmetic attack I've heard of.
		Wow.
		He could not have made that up.
		I mean he could have, but I just, it doesn't sound like he could have made that up to me.
		You know?
unidentified		He's one of those too bizarre.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Wild card line, you're on the air.
		Hello.
		Hello.
unidentified		Hi.
		Hi Art.
		I'm a first time caller.
		My name's Tina and I'm calling from the San Gabriel Valley in California.
		All right.
		Tina.
		And what I'm calling about is not to change the, you know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It could use some changing.
		Object.
		Go right ahead.
unidentified		But I think you might be interested in this.
unidentified		I fast blasted you about the Atlantean Crystal Ball book.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I don't, Atlantean Crystal Ball book?
unidentified		Right.
		And why I find this interesting and I think it'd be a good subject matter for future show is is this book was written in 1989 and I just came across it this year.
		And it has the directions to the city of Atlantis in it on how it could be found, which seemed to match up exactly with where Atlantis has currently been found.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, well, well.
unidentified		And along with seven other lost temples that are supposedly still lost, the directions to them.
		And how this came about, according to this book, this woman was given a crystal ball by Flip Wilson.
		Yes.
		The comedian.
		Right.
		And this crystal ball, she didn't know anything about crystal balls, but it started emanating like a mist around it.
		And she started channeling this information.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Channeling, huh?
unidentified		Yeah.
unidentified		And I don't go for channeling either.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you do.
unidentified		This is just too strange.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I, you know, I don't actually, channeling is a reasonable thing to imagine certainly could occur.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I just, you know, I've always, I've always been sort of hesitant about it because you can't, you know, you can't prove it.
unidentified		Well, correct.
		Right.
		But anyway, this, this particular crystal ball, this woman was also on a radio, several radio channels regarding this crystal ball.
		And this crystal ball emits so much energy that it caused the radio channel to go dead, which you can imagine would be a scary thing.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Crystal, you see, crystal ball.
		Crystal, you see, is a very interesting substance.
		I have a pure crystal ball that Bob Crane bought for me at some really exorbitant price in Indonesia.
		It's an absolutely pure crystal ball.
		And they do, they're very interesting to hold in your hand.
		A true crystal ball is really something.
unidentified		Well, this particular crystal ball was brought up by the divers of Jacques Cousteau.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Wow.
unidentified		From the Atlantic Ocean in between Florida and Cuba.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And Cuba.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That would be, that would be the area.
unidentified		Yeah.
		And it's been, I guess, in 1990, it was looked at by a group of gemologists, I guess.
		I guess what it's called and they said that this particular crystal ball was by no means man-made they'd never seen anything like it and it was bathed in I can't remember that it's a green lake I can't It escapes me the name of it.
		But anyway, they put it in this green lake and it absorbs the color of green afterwards.
		And it blows up telephones and fast machines and refrigerators.
		And they ended up having to put this crystal ball in a safe away from electrical things because it was causing so many problems.
		But why I thought you might find it interesting is because you've had past guests talking to you about magnetic energy.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		A crystal ball like that would utterly destroy the room I'm in right now.
unidentified		Yeah, well, you couldn't have it there according to what I've read.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no.
unidentified		It would give you a whole new thing to be afraid of.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		My dear, it would send me back to the Stone Age.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I have so many electronics in here that it would be all over.
unidentified		Yeah, but it talks about these other temples that are still lost, but there's crystal balls in these temples.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, we shouldn't be surprised at this because there was an obvious technology in these ancient times that we don't have now, that we haven't remembered or relearned or a science path we haven't gone down, but they had some sort of technology and power that we don't have a clue about.
unidentified		Right, and that's exactly what this book, the channeled message, is saying that within when Atlantis was found, that at that point they would also be finding these other temples with the crystal balls in them.
		And that's where the hidden secret of magnetic energy and how to create magnetic energy would be found.
		And we would then learn, you know, how to store it and harvest it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'll go for this.
		Perhaps we would learn how to channel it.
		How's that?
unidentified		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Well, listen, thank you very, very much for the call.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Good morning.
unidentified		Hello there.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi.
unidentified		How you doing?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, sir.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Where are you?
unidentified		I'm in Chicago.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Chicago.
unidentified		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's great.
unidentified		You can hear it all the way over there.
unidentified		I apologize.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I have very good hearing.
unidentified		Wait, way, way on the other side of the room.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I will wait.
unidentified		Hold on one second.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, I'll wait.
		Very important that actually you have your radio near your phone so that you can immediately turn it off.
		Because of the delay, yes, sir.
		Go right ahead.
unidentified		Yeah, you know, I'm calling about the streetlight phenomenon that I've experienced in my life for over 12 years now.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		They go off as you approach.
unidentified		Well, actually, I have both.
		I have them go on and off.
		I first noticed that I've lived in Chicago my whole life, except for a period of about two years I lived in New Jersey.
		And I first noticed this in New Jersey.
		I worked a night job, and my hours varied every night coming home.
		So it was always a random time.
		It was never the same time.
		And the same streetlight on the highway, on the way home, would either turn on or turn off as I approached or went by.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And what do you make out of this?
unidentified		I'm not sure because now I'm back in Illinois.
		I've been in Illinois for 10 years now and I had the same phenomenon happening here with several streetlights, one on my block where I live and several in the town.
		And I don't know.
		I'm just trying to figure out what it could be.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		If only you could convert this power to turning red lights green.
unidentified		Something like that.
		I don't know.
		I take it maybe as...
		Maybe a guardian angel trying to show me something.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Maybe.
		Maybe.
		But I can tell you there are many, many people who experience what you experience, so you're not alone.
unidentified		Yeah, so I mean, I've never heard anybody ever talk about this, and I've never talked about it to anybody until I heard it on your show about two weeks ago.
unidentified		I was like, oh, my God.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		It's just something very bizarre.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, sir.
unidentified		And they don't just come on.
		I mean, they come on and or go off.
		So it's not one way or the other.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I've got it.
unidentified		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Thank you very much.
		No, it is more common than you would imagine.
		It really does happen.
		On my entity attack line, you're on the air.
		Hello.
unidentified		Good morning, Art.
unidentified		How are you?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm all right, sir.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Where are you?
unidentified		Jacksonville, Florida.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Have you been attacked?
unidentified		Yeah, it happened about eight years ago.
unidentified		I heard a gentleman earlier talking about how he was laying in bed next to his wife and something was pressing down on him.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
unidentified		And I had the exact same experience.
		And when I heard that, man, it was chilling to the bone.
		I was laying in bed next to my wife.
		And the only thing I could equivalent it to is these void black creatures like in the movie Ghost that were pressing down my hands, holding them down, and kind of like pressing on my chest, choking me.
		I could barely squeak out her name, also, you know, trying to call her name out.
		And I almost had the power or the strength to just almost press them back to sit up, but they would just kind of like press me back down.
		Well, she actually woke up hearing me try to say her name, and the minute she said, what, what's wrong, these things were gone, and I sprung up out of bed, you know, with the coldest sweats you ever could imagine.
		I was spooked.
		It was just way too scary.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You told her about it?
unidentified		Oh, yeah.
unidentified		I told her about it, and I've told several people about it, and they're like, man, that's just too weird.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Did you see anything?
unidentified		Yeah, it was more than one, but I can't tell you whether it was three or four.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Was the pressure on you sort of an even overall pressure, or could you feel extremities pushing you down?
unidentified		It was extremities.
		It was like around my chest or throat area and around my hands, holding my hands down.
		And like I said, they were kind of like faceless, dark figures.
		I saw a picture of your shadow people where it was like on your website where it shows like hooded, faceless figures with no legs.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And that's roughly what you saw?
unidentified		That's roughly them.
unidentified		And when I saw that picture, it spooked me, too.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, brother.
unidentified		Oh, yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I'm glad it is over, right?
unidentified		Oh, yeah.
		It's only happened once.
		And as you can tell, I don't sleep well at night anymore.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		One will do for that sort of thing.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
unidentified		You have a good night.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You too, sir.
		I'm Art Bell.
		This is Coast to Coast AM.
unidentified		You're listening to Art Bell, Somewhere in Time, on Premier Radio Networks.
		Tonight, an encore presentation of Coast to Coast AM from December 7, 2001.
		Coast to Coast AM from December
		Coast to Coast AM from December 7, 2001.
		7, 2001.
		Be the sight of the sand, the smell of the touch, the something inside that you need so much.
		The sight of the touch, or the scent of the sand, or the strength of an oak leaves deep in the ground.
		The wonder of flowers to be covered and then to burst up through tarmac to the sun again.
		Or to fly to the sun without burning a wing.
		To lie in a meadow and hear the grass sing, to have all these things in our memories more.
		And the universal health.
		Why, take a beer, take my fear.
		I'll be in my fear.
		I wouldn't be here.
		But for my just do it by me.
		I'd do it by life.
		But by now, by now, we're going to live in Florida.
		We're going to live in Florida.
		You're listening to Art Bell somewhere in time, tonight featuring a replay of Coast to Coast AM from December 7th, 2001.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Good morning.
		We've got an entity attack line open.
		As usual, when I do this kind of thing, we're getting more than we bargained for by far.
		It's a Friday night, Saturday morning, generally open lines, with that exception, and it actually has dominated.
		So if you'll stay right where you are, and I imagine you're fairly frozen in place anyway, if you've been listening, we'll get to more of it in a moment.
		And back into the night we go.
		Good morning.
		You're on the air on Coast Coast AM.
		Where are you, please?
unidentified		Hi, this is David in Tuscaloosa, Alabama.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hey, David.
		How are you this morning?
		I'm fine.
		You fast blasted me and said you had a story, and I called you.
		So what's up?
unidentified		Yeah, it's actually pretty frightening to even recount, but I'll do my best to make it as quick as possible.
		Sure.
		Basically, it occurred over a three-week period or so when I was nine.
		I went through this period of waking up at night and really frightened.
		And you know what happens when you're nine and you're really frightened, you have to make a trip to the little boy's room.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Right away.
unidentified		Yeah.
		And of course, once you're there, you're kind of stuck for a few minutes.
		And anyway, I would run to the bathroom and I would feel this entity or something, evil, coming toward the bathroom down the hall.
		And it was like the longer I was in there, the stronger the presence became.
		And, you know, I would finish what I was doing and immediately dash back into my bed and throw the covers over my head, and I could feel this presence all around me.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I always wonder about people saying, I finished what I was doing.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		To me, you know, once the thing's on the way, what you're doing isn't going on anymore.
unidentified		Well, you know, after a few times, it kept getting closer, and so you're less and less finished when you're pulling your clothes back.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I see you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
unidentified		But yeah, so anyway, one night it kind of came to a head, and the thing made it to just outside the door, whatever it was.
		You know, it was just a feeling of fear.
		And I ran, I wouldn't look to the right.
		I ran, my bedroom was to the left, and I ran and I dove one of the covers, and I could hear the thing walking toward me, whatever it was.
		And I wouldn't, of course, look out from under the cover.
		And I was scared, really, really scared, too scared to scream.
		It walked up right beside the bed, stopped.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		And there was a pause.
		Something grabbed me by the neck, jerked me straight up in the bed.
		It wasn't choking me, and there was no pressure or anything like that, but it physically pulled me straight up in the bed, and I couldn't scream because I was too scared, not because I was choking.
		And when I finally let go, it was one of those blood-curdling, you know, when a male is really scared, it's very different when they scream than a female.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yes.
unidentified		And anyway, so I screamed, and my dad was an ex-paratrooper, you know, born-again hard type.
		And he comes out of his bedroom with his gun in his hand, and because I guess that scream, he must have taken it pretty seriously, and flipped on the light.
		And he looked at me and, you know, immediately was kind of mad at me.
		It's like, what's wrong with you, boy?
		And that kind of thing.
		And I couldn't say anything.
		I was just too scared.
		and he looked down at the floor and there was a pair of boots beside the bed.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		A pair of boots?
unidentified		Yeah.
		I know this sounds really odd, but this is entirely true.
		Okay.
		And then if you looked back down the hallway, which the light was on because my mother was up as well, there were muddy boot prints.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, my.
unidentified		Yeah, I went back into the living room.
		So he yells at everyone to get down on the floor.
		And he runs off into the living room with his gun in his hand, turning on lights as he goes.
		He emptied the, I believe it was a Browning 380 automatic.
		It was an old, I think it was an old military issue of some sort.
		All the shots rang out, and of course we're all really frightened by now.
		And a few minutes later, my dad returns, and he's white as a sheet.
		My mother's calling the police, and the police finally arrive only to, when they go to come in the house, at that point in time, my dad realizes that all the doors and windows are locked and had been.
		They had never been unlocked.
		No one had entered through a door or a window.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Holy smokes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And what did the police say about all this?
unidentified		Well, they didn't know what to say other than they saw the results of all the gunshots, which was a string of bullet holes down the living room wall.
		So evidently this thing had been moving and my dad saw it, whatever it was, and shot at it.
		And repeatedly.
		I think it was like, I don't know if it was a 9 or a 13 round clip in those, I don't recall, but I mean, it was a lot of shots.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		My God, that's some story.
unidentified		That's bizarre, isn't it?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		It's absolutely true.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It was worth the call.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
unidentified		Okay, and one other thing.
		He would never tell me what he saw.
		I don't know what he told the police.
		I guess he was trying to keep me from being overly frightened again.
		But from that point on, we always had lights on at night.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I hear you.
		Thank you.
		Thank you.
		Thank you very much.
		Wow.
		Well, I have always felt that there is intrinsic safety value in covers.
		I know it really sounds stupid, right?
		But when you're a kid, you pull the covers over you.
		And I think you still do that, by the way, when you're an adult.
		And that's because I think we all sort of half-believe that there is some intrinsic value in the covers being over you.
		On the other hand, that may be totally an error and nothing but a myth, and you could be made of bloody pulp covers or not.
		Wildcard line, you're on the air.
		Hello.
unidentified		Hello?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello.
unidentified		Hi.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi.
unidentified		I'm calling from Buffalo, listening to you, NWBEN.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Buffalo, New York.
unidentified		And I have an entity attack story.
		Although this is quite different than the ones I've been hearing tonight.
		This happened in the daytime.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		In the daytime?
unidentified		Yes.
		I lived in a house that wasn't quite right.
		I was a child for a while.
		We lived in an apartment that was...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Like what?
unidentified		Ghosts.
		And I was quite young, and I'd always get up first thing in the morning, and everybody else in the house would be sleeping.
		And I'd hear a woman call out my name.
		This happened repeatedly.
		And I mean, days on end or weeks on end.
		And finally, I just got accustomed to it, and one day I decided to ignore it.
		And I guess she didn't like that too much.
		She grabbed my arm, whipped it behind my head, and basically I got slapped.
		I didn't see anything.
		I got slipped upside the head and knocked a tooth out.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And you lost the tooth?
unidentified		I lost the tooth.
		Warren, could you see her or only sense her?
		I didn't.
		I only heard her.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You only heard her.
unidentified		Yes, they used to get her before.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And so it must have been like an invisible something attacking you.
unidentified		Yeah, it was like I was being reprimanded or something because before, in times past, I'd get up and search around the house and who's there or what do you want?
		And finally, it just happened so much, I got accustomed to it, so I decided to ignore it.
		And apparently, she didn't like it too much.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Wow.
		What finally changed?
		I mean, it's not still going on, right?
unidentified		No, well, we moved from there, and we moved out of town.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And when you moved, she did not follow.
unidentified		She did not follow, but a couple years later, we had moved back.
		And when we moved out, my brother, he wasn't old enough to walk or talk yet.
		And we drove past the house as we're coming back into town.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		And my father goes, hey, we used to live there.
		And he goes, my brother, you remember that place?
		He goes, yeah, that was a house with all the monsters in it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I appreciate the goal, sir.
unidentified		All right, thanks.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you, and take care.
		Now, rarely, if ever, do you hear of somebody moving or leaving and whatever it is following.
		Therefore, that has got to be regarded, if this is really serious for you, as one solution to getting away from it, and that is to get the hell out.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hello.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
unidentified		Yes.
unidentified		Hi.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi.
unidentified		I'm Rick.
unidentified		I'm in Nashville.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello, Rick.
unidentified		My story is, I know it's late, but it's kind of lengthy because it entails many years.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, try and boil it down.
unidentified		I will boil it down.
		It started when I was eight.
		I was staying with my grandparents for a weekend, and this was up in Massachusetts, when I lived up there.
		And I was on their couch one night sleeping.
		My sister was in the bedroom.
		We would switch out.
		One night she'd sleep in the bed, and one night I'd sleep in the bed.
		And I was laying there in bed one night, and it was, you know, it was probably, you know, 1, 2, 3 o'clock in the morning.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Right.
unidentified		Pitch black.
		And there's no lights on in the house.
		And I was just, I couldn't sleep that night for some reason.
		And I was just laying there with my eyes open.
		And there's this big green face that comes up in front of me.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		A green face.
unidentified		Yeah, a very green face.
unidentified		It was the face of a man.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
unidentified		But it was enormous.
unidentified		Kind of like, you know, you picture like the Wizard of Oz type thing.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		Only.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Only the wizard was a little runt.
unidentified		Well, it ended up being a little runt.
unidentified		I'm talking about the, you know, the big green head.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, oh, I see.
		I see.
		The presentation of the wizard.
unidentified		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, okay.
unidentified		Well, it was similar to that, only this face spoke to me.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh?
unidentified		Yes.
		And informed me that for the rest of my life, he would see to it that everything that I tried to do would fail.
		My kids would die.
		All kinds of things like that.
		And of course, I was scared to death.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Holy smokes.
unidentified		Well, this doesn't end there.
		The green face never came back.
		Then it was similar things as I got older.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but what about its promise?
unidentified		Oh, yeah.
		I'll get to that.
		Okay.
		As I got older, I would start being attacked physically, mainly just laying in bed, and I would feel an evil presence, and it would, you know, like a lot of other people, a pressure on my chest, not being able to move, not being able to scream, not being able to say anything.
		You know, of course, I didn't know what it was, and like a lot of other people, they don't know exactly what it is.
		When I got married a few years ago, I started going to church, and I started learning about things like what quote-unquote demons and things like that can do and what they're capable of and they're agents of the devil and blah, blah, blah.
		And that answered a lot of questions for me as far as these attacks.
		But the attacks didn't stop.
		As a matter of fact, they became, when I started going to church, they became more frequent.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		More frequent.
unidentified		Yes.
		And I went to my pastor and was like, you know, how do I deal with this?
		You know, and my wife.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Did you tell your pastor the whole story?
unidentified		Oh, yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The green man, everything.
unidentified		Oh, yeah, everything.
unidentified		The whole nine years.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And how did he react?
unidentified		He said, well, he was not surprised at all.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Really?
unidentified		Yeah.
		And he said, this is what you need to do.
		And, of course, you know, it's like that man that called from Memphis earlier about, you know, he had sold his soul or experimented with selling his soul to the devil and all that.
		And then when he was being attacked, you know, he tried screaming out the name of Jesus and it didn't work.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Right.
unidentified		Well, come to find out for me, that started working.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, maybe if you've made your deal, so to speak, and the contract is signed, then none of the small print works.
unidentified		That's what I'm wondering.
unidentified		You know, maybe it's like, yeah, you know, if you sell your soul to Satan himself.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Then invoking the name of Jesus is not going to help you.
unidentified		It does you know good.
unidentified		You know, and I just wonder, I just wonder, as many people as you've had on here that have had these attack stories of these entities or demons or shadow people or whatever you want to call them, how many, what percentage of those people believe in God?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
		Does it surprise you, though, that we have had so many stories of physical attacks?
		Hardly anybody ever asked about that, so I thought I would because of a couple calls I got.
		But, I mean, they're just flooding in, flooding in, physical attacks.
		Does that surprise you?
unidentified		Not at all.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Really?
unidentified		Not at all.
		And the reason why I say that, of course, I'm very, you know, being a Christian person, you know, I believe in, you know, Satan.
		I know he's there.
		I know that he's got all these, you know, agents out there, so to speak.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I guess if you begin to have some fatal disease and you're fading away on your deathbed and you see the green guy, you're going to know it went wrong.
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I appreciate the call, sir.
		Thank you.
		That would be really unsettling, wouldn't it?
		To have a green guy, a big green face, tell you that your life virtually is over.
		That everything you try to do is going to fail.
		That children you bear will die.
		To be told that and then to begin to have it all come true.
		West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hello, Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		My name is Jason.
unidentified		I'm in Hermosa Beach, California.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi, Jason.
unidentified		I'm somewhat of a Star Trek fan.
		I don't follow everything.
		But the new show Enterprise had a strange correlation to a show that you had on, I believe it was two nights ago, with Dan Aykroyd and David Sarita.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, indeed.
unidentified		Speaking of the Dropa Stones and the experiments that NASA did with the tether.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And the Dropa Stone-shaped craft that were miles long, and then there was a photograph taken by the lady of the Dropa.
unidentified		Yes.
		And well, anyways, in this week's episode of the new Star Trek Enterprise show, the Enterprise came across an alien vessel that was on its way to a protostar that the people that were on the vessel were going to this protostar because they believed that once
		every 11 years it gave off a neutron blast that represented the beginning of the universe.
		So ironically enough, in the greeting of this alien civilization, one of the members, the spokesman, gives the captain of the Enterprise a clock that looks very, very suspiciously like one of the Tropistones.
		It was a clear crystal type thing, but it was the same round shape with a little notch in it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You know what I think?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You know what I think?
unidentified		What's that?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I think that the people who write the scripts for things like Star Trek and other science fiction monitor what's really going on in the world right now.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And wouldn't it be irresistible to take a shape like that and weave it into your story?
unidentified		Yes.
		And of course, this is supposed to be a future extension of NASA itself, which is what really drew me to the correlation.
		And apparently what this guy told was that this clock charts time from the beginning of the universe.
		So I thought that was quite interesting.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
		Well, again, I really think that they take a few pages from what's really going on out there.
		I certainly would.
unidentified		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I were writing that kind of a story, so that may indeed be the case.
unidentified		Yes, definitely.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Really neat.
		I appreciate that.
		I'm going to have to start watching that.
unidentified		Yeah, yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, you take care.
unidentified		Thank you, you too.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		With stories like this, you've got to take care, don't you?
		All right, we're not done yet.
		There's more to go.
unidentified		If you'll just keep it right where you've got it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		In the middle of the night, I'm Art Bell, and this is Coast to Coast and well beyond AM.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		If you can handle it.
unidentified		This is D. Ward Bell, Somewhere in Time.
		The night featuring a replay of Coast to Coast AM from December 7, 2001.
		The Night.
		listening to Art Bell Somewhere in Time on Premiere Radio Networks, the night and oncore presentation of Coast to Coast AM from December 7th, 2001.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Good morning, everybody.
unidentified		I'm gonna open up your gate.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		This is Coast to Coast AM in the nighttime.
unidentified		I'm gonna open up your gate.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Here we go again.
		First time caller line, which is actually tonight, the entity attack line.
		You are on the air.
unidentified		Hello.
		Hello.
		This is Ann.
		I'm calling from Juneau, Alaska.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello, Ann, the capital of Alaska.
unidentified		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, indeed.
unidentified		Okay, I was really surprised to hear so many responses to this gal that spoke the other night.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Were you?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Are you surprised to hear so many people with similar stories?
unidentified		Yes, because that's been happening to me for about 18 years.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		18 years?
unidentified		Yes, and it started happening when I got born again.
		And I should mention that I'm from a Yes.
		And I renounced the Indian culture, and that's when it started happening, because I'm from a tribe that, you know, total holes and graven images and all these things.
		And it has never let up.
		And I was very encouraged by that man who said he fasted because it seems to me it's been laid on my heart, you know, to fast.
		And I've just been afraid to.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, what do you make of it?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, how do you interpret the fact that when you became a born-again Christian, all of this came upon you?
unidentified		Well, I just seemed to understand.
		I just read the Bible, and then I understood.
		It seemed like my eyes were just open, like a man earlier was saying.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You would think just, thank you very much.
		You would think just the very opposite, that when somebody would embrace Christianity, if what a lot of Christians say, when she embraced it, that troubles of that sort would lessen, not would not magnify and not begin.
		A little food for thought there.
		Wild Cardeline, you're on here.
		Hello.
unidentified		Yes.
unidentified		Art?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, yes.
unidentified		Okay, this is Connie.
unidentified		I'm calling from Bloomington, Indiana.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi, Connie.
unidentified		Hi.
		I love your show.
		And I'm just sitting here just with chills down my spine when the guy was speaking of the hooded figure that didn't have any face or feet or anything.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, the one where he described it as gliding.
unidentified		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, huh?
unidentified		Yes, just floating by.
		I had that experience.
		And I am just like freaking out right now because this is so scary.
		It was back in the 70s, right after the Exorcist movie came out.
		And I'll try to make this as brief as possible because I know this won't, you know, you have to be quick.
		But this is the Honest God's Truth.
		I lived in an old house that was made into apartments in downtown Gary, Indiana.
		And we had, my whole family kind of took over the apartment because whoever owned it, they abandoned it.
		But they had remodeled it.
		It was the strangest thing.
		And it was broken down into like four apartments.
		One in the front, one in the back, one in the middle, and an attic.
		And my sister moved in the back.
		Me and my mother lived in the middle.
		And in the front, a friend of ours that was practicing witchcraft moved down into the front.
		And when that person moved in, these strange things started happening in this whole apartment house.
		And one night in particular that this happened to me, I was out with my brother's wife.
		And mind you, I was only about 14, but I had gotten drunk off at tequila.
		And I just laid on the couch and just kind of passed out.
		Well, my mom had a dead bolt on the door with keys that hung in there.
		And I just heard the slightest sound of these keys.
		And it woke me up out of the bed drunk and just being a young kid.
		And I went over to the door.
		I don't know what made me go to the door.
		But when I opened it, this hooded figure just glided from the stairs down.
		And my sister was upstairs with her boyfriend and glided down right in front of me.
		And I just panicked and I screamed and I slammed the door shut.
		And then my sister said, Connie, is that you?
		And I said, what are you guys doing?
		I said, what was that?
		She goes, open the door and let us in.
		I said, I'm not opening this door until you get down here.
		I said, what is that?
		I'm yelling through the door to her.
		And she said, just please open the door.
		We're on our way down.
		So when they got down there, they ran in.
		I opened the door real fast.
		She was as wide as a sheet.
		Her boyfriend was Puerto Rican, and I tell you, he looked like he was an albino.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		They had both seen this then, also.
unidentified		My sister didn't, but only he did.
		And it was coming up the stairs towards him.
		And she asked him, she goes, I said, what was that thing I just seen?
		She goes, wait a minute, don't say nothing.
		Because she wanted to verify it.
		So she asked him what he saw.
		And then he got quiet, where I couldn't hear it.
		And then she asked me what I saw.
		And she just almost literally fainted.
		She said, oh, my God, because when they were upstairs.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Separate parts of the house both saw the same thing.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		She sat there and realized it was the truth.
unidentified		Yes, but then strange things started happening in that house.
unidentified		We lived like a mile from the steel mill.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Right.
unidentified		And at about 3 o'clock in the morning, every morning you'd hear this loud thumping in this house.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Where was this?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Was this in Juneau?
unidentified		It was in Gary, Indiana.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Gary, Indiana.
unidentified		And the people that, well, see, the house finally just burned to the ground because it scared us so bad.
		There was a foul smell in there.
		We were always hearing noises.
		My sister-in-law was cussing this thing out because she always believed that if you cussed it out, it would leave you alone.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm not sure that's a sound policy.
unidentified		You don't think so?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, there are others who, you know, call out the name Jesus or something like that, but I'm not sure cussing at it would be the path I would choose.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But I don't know, whatever works.
unidentified		I don't know either, but I mean, I was so scared.
		Like I said, I was only 14, and my brother lived in Iowa.
		And do you know, I just started hitchhiking out of there.
		I moved out.
		I said, mom, I have to leave.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That was enough for you, huh?
unidentified		When I seen that, and then upstairs it was raining, and my mom said, did you guys close the upstairs window in the apartment upstairs?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		They heard something slide across the floor.
		When they went to go open the door, there was a dresser in front of the door.
		There was nobody up there.
		No other way to get up.
		There's no other way to get in that apartment, but you have to bypass the middle apartment.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Gotcha.
unidentified		And I'm like, you know, this is it.
unidentified		I've got to get out of here.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I don't blame you.
		And trust me when I tell you, I would have done exactly the same thing.
		So many people hang in there or worse yet, go and investigate.
		I'm going to try and call.
		Remember I told you Shelly sent me an interesting, now she sent me, she sent me a very interesting fast blast.
		And I'm going to see if Shelly is still awake and if Shelly is.
		We're going to have her tell us her story.
		Let's see if Shelly's in.
unidentified		Hello?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Shelly?
unidentified		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's Art Bell.
unidentified		Hi, Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And you're on the air.
		Thank you.
		It was an intriguing fast blast, and so I thought I'd call you, and I just did.
unidentified		Yes, in 1978, in February, a spirit appeared.
		He was very solid.
		A lot of people saw him.
		He first appeared at our mailbox, and he was dressed like a seaman in the 1800s, like a whaler.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		And he would walk around, mostly sundowns, evenings, people would come up to the door, especially women.
		He would appear suddenly at them.
		Never hurt them, but just startled them.
		So he took a liking to teasing people, scratching on the window.
		He'd open the curtains and there he'd be and then he'd disappear, grab you in the middle of the night, or you'd walk to the bathroom and bump into him and he'd laugh and disappear.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I'll tell you, that'll ruin a bathroom too.
unidentified		It wakes you up.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, no doubt.
unidentified		So this went on for about six months.
		And on and off, he would appear, disappear, not hurt anybody, though.
		So one night, I'm home alone.
		I make myself a sandwich, leave the knife and the food on the stove, go take my bath.
		I'm watching a horror movie in the middle of the night.
		All the lights go off.
		Both front door and back door blow open.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Blow open.
unidentified		Yeah, just at the same time, and they were locked.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, great.
unidentified		And so I figure, okay, the lights go out, the phone's dead.
		I go, okay, fuse.
		I'm going to go out and change the fuses.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What part about a fuse blew open the doors?
unidentified		I didn't want to ask that at that point.
unidentified		I just wanted to get the lights on.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Right.
unidentified		So I went out there, I went to the fuse box, and the fuses had been unscrewed and dropped onto the ground.
unidentified		So at this point, I'm hoping it's a physical person that's doing this, and I decided to go back into the house after I got that light back on, locked the doors, and the butcher knife's gone.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, man.
unidentified		And my phone's still dead.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, brother.
unidentified		So now I know he's got a knife.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And he's there.
unidentified		And he's there.
		And so I barricaded myself against a wall until somebody came home.
		And so a few nights later, now he's let me think that he's just going to put the knife somewhere and scare me.
		So I don't know what he's going to do.
		Weeks later, I'm asleep.
		I get awakened in the middle of the night by something grabbing my arm so tightly that it hurt.
		You know, you wake up, ow!
		It was so cold and wet, and I jumped up, and I screamed, and I turned on the light, and I heard him laugh, and he disappeared.
		And my arm was covered like somebody had dipped their hands in blood and put their hands on me.
		So my whole arm was covered in blood.
		Oh, my God.
		So I didn't know if he had cut me with a knife or you're half awake.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, sure.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You could think I've been cut, yeah.
unidentified		Run to the bathroom, wash myself off, and I just have bruises, just like a handprint.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Right.
unidentified		So I'm startled.
		I get shook.
		I said, okay, you know what?
		You're not bugging me.
		I'm going to go back to bed.
		I go back to bed and there's a butcher knife in my pillow.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		There's a butcher knife in your pillow?
unidentified		Someone he took.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, man.
unidentified		And then.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'd be so out of there.
unidentified		Well, no, I just said, you know, it's either me or you.
		You're going or I'm going.
		One of us is going.
		And the next night I was writing some poetry, and it felt like somebody grabbed my hand.
		And he wrote his name.
		Thomas Jodo.
		And I said, okay, what will it take to get you out of here?
		What the heck do you want?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		And he wrote, horses.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Horses?
unidentified		Horses.
		Of all things.
		I'm thinking this is some sort of drama here.
		And he writes horses.
		In my head, I hear a voice.
		An Irish brogue, and he tells me that he was a whaler.
		First, he had been a man who groomed horses somewhere in Ireland, joined a whaling vessel, made money, heard about the gold fever in California, went to California, and died on the ground where my house was in a fight, a knife fight.
		Somebody had killed him.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Holy smokes.
unidentified		So he said he wanted horses.
		He loved horses.
		Give me horses and I'll leave you alone.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And so?
unidentified		Well, I remember my mother had a friend who had inherited his brother's farm, and he had a corral and a barn.
		So I'm thinking, okay, I've got to get this guy out of here.
		So I told him, you go to Wayne's house.
		Because he's not living there.
		Because he couldn't.
		His brother had committed suicide and he couldn't live on the property.
		He had a security guard out there.
		I said, you go to the barn at Wayne's house, and I'll get you horses somehow.
		Don't ask me how.
		Just go.
		And he said, if you don't, I'll come back.
		So without telling Wayne, I sent this ghost over there.
		Well, Wayne had seen this man on the property, and the night watchman was scared to death.
		And so Wayne had seen this man come out of the barn.
		And he came over to him, and he was a big, tall man, like I described to my mom.
		Big, tall man, dressed as a semen.
		And he says, what's your name?
		And he says, my name's Thomas Chodo.
		And he goes, what are you doing here?
		And he goes, I've come to take care of the horses.
		And he goes, what horses?
		And he says, Shelly promised me horses.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		And he turned his back and walked into the barn.
		Wayne follows him into the barn, and there's nobody there.
		So Wayne calls my mom and says, what's going on?
		Who's this guy that Shelly promised horses to?
		So mom explained the story.
		So Wayne had a friend who needed to board horses.
		So he told the friend, put your horses in my corral, bring your hay, leave them there for a while.
		I'll give you some free space.
		Because he wanted to see what was going to happen.
		The guy came back the next morning and said, well, if your night watchman's going to take care of my horses and feed them and water them, I want to pay him for it.
		So Wayne goes back to the watchman.
		The watchman says, I don't know what's going on.
		There's lights in the barn.
		These horses are going in and out of the barn by themselves.
		I hear water.
		I hear food.
		I'm not going near the place to quit the job.
		But the horses have been brushed, fed, and watered.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Aye, aye, aye.
unidentified		So Wayne put, I told him, give him Irish whiskey.
		He put Irish whiskey out there.
		It disappeared.
		He didn't like the way the ghost.
		He says, if I don't have a ghost, he's really ratty.
		Look, and I'm going to get him some new clothes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, we're way short on time here.
unidentified		Well, it ended with him moving into the house across the street that Wade owned that had a widow's walk, like this New England and Irish homes, you know.
unidentified		And he stayed there.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And he stayed there.
unidentified		With the horses.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's some story, hon. Thank you very much.
		And with that, I think we'll call it a wrap.
		That's it for me from the high desert.
		I'm Art Bell.
unidentified		Ta-Ta.
		Good night in the desert, shooting stars across the sky.
		This magical journey will take us on a ride Filled with the longing, the dreams for the truth we make it to tomorrow for the sun to shine on you?
		Midnight in the darkness, and we're less than a young man.
		Thank you.
		Thank you.
		Midnight in the desert, and there's wisdom in the air.
		I've been looking for the answer.
		All my life I failed you there.
		Has the world we live in could dump?
		Are we heating all the time?
		Have we lost our limbs and we shun?
		Are we running out of time?
		Midnight in the gathering.
		And we're left on the you.

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