Art Bell’s open lines episode explores Pam Reynolds’ near-death experience—detailed recall of an aneurysm surgery with no brain activity—and callers reporting entity attacks, from hand-shaped bruises to crushing larynx experiences, often linked to prayer or faith. Stories include rocks raining in 1980s Missouri, a "Mr. Hinky Monster" attack, and a 1978 ghost named Thomas Jodo who demanded whiskey and horses. Callers debate triggers like Christianity or witchcraft, while Bell ties paranormal claims to Mars’ melting ice caps and Atlantis theories, suggesting deeper cosmic or supernatural connections may be ignored by mainstream science. [Automatically generated summary]
From the high desert and the great American Southwest, I bid you all good evening, good morning, good afternoon, whatever it may be, wherever you are in all 24 time zones.
And by this program, I'm Arkbell, and this is Coast to Coast AM, Friday Night Saturday Morning, Open Live Version.
It is the beginning.
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Listen, I want to say a word or two about last night's program.
I think that in many ways, of all the shows I've done on near-death or what happens to one after we pass to the other side, leave the physical body, assume room temperature, whatever, Pam's interview last night was really profound.
I could not shoot a hole in the whole thing.
As you know, I hope you heard it last night.
Pam had brain surgery.
She had an aneurysm removed from her brain, and to do that, they cooled her down to about 58 degrees, removed all the blood from her body.
Her heart stopped, and her brain waves ceased for one hour.
One hour.
And she told us all about where she went and what happened.
And it was incredible.
Incredible.
Moreover, Pam was able to account in a linear time frame for everything that happened in the operating room.
Things that were said, instruments, things that were moved.
In fact, the paddles used to try and kickstart her heart.
She recalled all of that.
Now, the only possible argument that I could see that could have been made was that Pam experienced this as she went into anesthetic or came out from.
However, that is shot down completely by the fact that she was able to relate everything that went on in that operating room, as well as what occurred to her externally.
So it was a very profound interview, in my opinion.
Really profound.
And if you missed it, somewhere down the line, we'll try and get it repeated for you.
Where was this woman?
She was dead.
Dead by every measure.
I mean, no brainwaves, zero for an hour.
That is really, really dead.
Where was she?
I'd say it's a fairly important question, wouldn't you?
Hey, listen, along with the open lines that we're going to have tonight, because of a few, if you're a regular listener, you know, a few recent really bizarre, frightening stories that have come from mostly young ladies that have called, we are going to do a special line.
One line tonight is going to be devoted to the subject of entity attacks.
And I purposely use the somewhat vague term entity because I have no idea what it is attacking these people.
Both women and men.
I have no idea.
In their sleep, I talked to a woman the other night who had hand marks, you know, bruises over her body from an attack during the night from something evil.
Something evil, some sort of representative of the devil or the devil himself or a shadow person, whatever a shadow person really is, or any one of who knows.
So in other words, I've left it sort of open with the vague term entity.
But when I say attack by an entity, I mean a physical attack, an actual physical attack from some sort of entity.
If this has happened to you, then I am going to restrict.
Nobody else can call this line, but those who fit into that category.
Only if you fit into that category should you call, and only if it was a physical attack should you call.
And we'll sort of pick up on that toward the bottom of the hour.
Now, in war news, Taliban forces look like they're going to give it up.
Kandahar, that is.
A lot of you may recall that many now, a couple of months ago at least, Eddame said that bin Laden orchestrated the attack from a bunker near Kandahar before anybody knew anything about Afghanistan for the most part.
And it looks like Kandahar may be where they find him.
We'll see.
And now he didn't say he'd be found in Kandahar necessarily.
He said that he orchestrated the attack from a bunker in the Kandahar area.
Ed Dames will be here on Monday also to talk about this new fungus that is attacking our trees.
Anyway, they're looking for Osama bin Laden.
You know, they feel they're getting close.
The dragnet is certainly closing in.
Now, eager to keep their stamp on the government's response to the September 11 attacks, Senate Democrats yesterday proposed a $20 billion alternative to the $35 billion anti-terrorism package killed hours earlier by lawmakers in defeating the bill.
The Republicans have apparently handed a victory to President Bush, who swore anything over $20 billion and he would wield the veto pen, and that would be that.
December 7th.
Americans marked yesterday's anniversary of Pearl Harbor with appeals to their countrymen to fight terrorism with the same valor shown by the World War II generation.
Ceremonies honoring the thousands killed on December 7th stretched from Hawaii to New York near the smoking rubble of the World Trade Center, which has been compared to the audacity, the infamy of December 7th, 1941, again and again.
And I think in some ways, in some ways, even worse.
At least the Japanese, for the most part, attempted to attack military facilities, you know, ships, support things.
They tried to keep our butts out of the Pacific Ocean.
That was the intent of the dastardly attack.
They wanted us crippled and unable to respond as they crisscrossed the Pacific, taking everything in sight.
And what's happened to us September 11th isn't going to work in the long run either.
Now had a rather down day, about 50, the NASDAQ falling about 33.
Well, just as I suspected, the major networks began to break the story on Cuba today.
The wire services began breaking it late last night.
CNN had it, then ABC's Good Morning America, I think, had it.
Do you know that over 70% of the American people believe that that is Atlantis under the water off the coast of Cuba?
Now, you've got to ask yourself, or you should ask yourself, if we've got really good investigative reporters in this country, why did it take them six months from the time that we began discussing it on this program with some pretty heavy-duty evidence?
I mean, they could have taken the tip a little earlier, in my opinion.
And we did more than give them a little tip.
I mean, we just about rammed it down their throats.
Hey, yo, folks, there's a big discovery in the waters off Cuba, and, you know, it's a city.
And, you know, there are buildings and highways, and it looks like an urban center, you know, the quotes and so forth.
And we've done that for so long now, and somehow you would think that somebody at one of the networks would say, hey, Frank, this sounds like it could be an important story.
Maybe we ought to check on it.
What do you think?
But they didn't.
It took six months.
And then I don't know what was the final catalyst for somebody with a few more brains than their colleagues to figure out this just might be a big story.
Hear about Mars?
Oh my.
Today it was revealed that the increasing temperature of the Sun is causing Mars to heat up.
In fact, the surface of Mars is heating up so rapidly that in less than 1,000 years, Mars polar ice caps will completely melt.
The temperature of the red planet will zoom up to, in quotes now, shirt-sleeve environment.
Now, the one thing that the press didn't for today, and I would like to at least bandy about with you a little bit, check me here if I'm wrong.
But we are the, what, the third rock from the sun, right?
And Mars is our neighbor, and even though they ran this story about ice caps melting on Mars, and that's how much the sun, didn't it occur to anybody out there that, you know, folks, it's the same sun, the one heating up Mars enough to melt the ice caps, is same sun that we enjoy the rays of here.
So, seems to me what's going to affect Mars is going to affect the Earth as well.
Duh.
But nobody sort of took on that aspect of the story, and I've been telling you for a long time now.
Boy, I'll tell you, big X-class flares expected from just gigantic spots on the Sun.
The Sun really has been going extra special nuts lately.
So, I don't know.
Seems to me they just sort of missed that part of the story.
I mean, it's great about Mars.
Amazing about Mars to imagine the ice caps are going to melt and that it'll be shirt-sleeve weather.
I mean, you know, good weather for human beings.
Of course, if they melt, if there's large water content on Mars, now let's think about this, folks.
When the ice melts and the water flows, what is that going to put into the atmosphere?
Probably oxygen.
Right?
So the sun will get hotter, Mars will begin to heat up and get an atmosphere.
But dog dumb, they just don't mention how that's going to affect the Earth.
Well, I guess if you're a kid, you'd go, wow, it's raining rocks.
But that's as cool as it would get.
I mean, it's not good to rain rocks.
I mean, did you get, I mean, were there rocks everywhere?
unidentified
The rocks just came and they tattooed us everywhere we went, and we jumped in some friends' cars, and the rocks followed us everywhere we went for three days and three nights.
When we went home, it rained rocks on us all night while we slept.
So, sure, you actually imagine you're having hallucinations.
That becomes a very good answer for your brain.
unidentified
Yeah.
But one morning, it was probably about 4 o'clock in the morning.
I knew I was very sick at the time.
Going on probably a third or fourth without any slew, without any sleep.
And I was lying in bed, and I saw, well, since I've only listened to your show for a little bit, but I guess it would be described as a shadow person, a dark entity came into my room.
I used to see this dark entity quite a bit, would sit in a chair and watch me.
I mean, you know, even when I was a kid, I tried to rationalize it.
You know, maybe it was some muscle contraction or something like that.
But, I mean, I don't know how I could possibly have done something like that at 11 years old, you know, hurled myself horizontally over the footboard of my bed and across the room.
I just, I mean, I can still feel something, you know, I can still, you know, think back and remember something grabbing my ankles.
The Cuba story, in my opinion, because it took the press so long to finally get it.
But the Mars story, the part, again, that's getting me is if Mars is going to heat up that much, how come the news today didn't have any speculation on what happens to the old third rock from the sun here?
unidentified
Well, sir, if you remember, remember when they discovered that the ice caps were melting at an extreme rate?
In fact, they reported from that one boat?
Well, ironically, about five, six years ago, I was in Anchorage, Alaska, and there was a little glacier I used to visit quite often.
And for about 20 years off Ganon, I used to watch this glacier.
And for almost, in fact, I got a helicopter coming over my house right now.
And ironically, I had watched this glacier only resend about half an inch each year.
Anyways, I was watching this glacier kind of do its work there only one-fourth of an inch a year, and one summer it disappeared three miles, sir.
And for a 2,000-year watch of this movement, only watching it doing one-fourth of an inch, something tells me that we are either us or something's happening outside of our Earth that is actually heating us up and melting the caps.
And ironically, and I'll make this short, Mars to me could be, like you've mentioned before, actually what we used to be on, and this could be our arc.
Mother Earth could be our arc, ironically, and we must take care of it before we move.
Maybe there's a cycle that moves with the sun where the sun changes so much that Earth virtually becomes uninhabitable.
Mars becomes habitable.
During another portion of the cycle, Mars becomes uninhabitable.
Earth becomes inhabitable.
I mean, that's really something to think about.
unidentified
Well, sort of think about it.
If we dig deep enough, we might just find things like Atlantis and other civilizations if suddenly we look up and realize that, hey, maybe it's a reflection not only of our past, but maybe perhaps our future.
If there are other civilizations in the very, very, very distant past and they did technological things that we still don't know how to duplicate.
Not certainly in the way they did it, and some we simply cannot duplicate at all, as in the pyramids.
Well, you could certainly speculate that even farther back than that, a lot farther, far enough back, so you might be 2,100 feet under the sea these days, there could have existed our ancestors who, for whatever reason we still don't fully understand, disappeared.
But again, this Mars story, I mean, you think about it a little bit, the angle the press, the press should be asking the following question.
If this is going to happen to Mars, then excuse us, but what will happen to Earth?
If there ever was solid proof of the other side, she gave it last night.
unidentified
Well, the only thing I have to say is after listening to that show, I felt such a comfort in what she was saying that I just had to stop my truck and stand out here on the payphone and tell you that it was one of the best shows you've ever had on.
And by the way, her doctor, I understand, would like to be on the air.
And oh, my, would I like to have him here.
Her brain surgeon would like to be on the air.
And I'd love to have him.
He's done, you know, he pioneered these operations, and there have been about a hundred since.
But I too, I too.
It was so solid, it was so credible, it was so impossible to shoot holes in that I think it is strong evidence of the other side, of physical existence after death.
Excuse me, conscious.
Physical existence.
Conscious existence, although she said there was a physical aspect to it after death.
I had two good skeptical questions I wanted to ask Pam Reynolds last night.
And I wanted to tell you that it's not fair what you did to me to cut me off, as you usually do whenever I call at the top or the bottom of the hour when you have a chance to scream the line to the top or the bottom of the hour because you said, okay, hold up.
You've got to get past the burden of proof shifts to you in that she described and could describe what happened during the hour of surgery, during the hour when she had no brain waves.
Okay, in the operating room, the things that can be verified by the doctors and the nurses, in other words, when she said she saw things, by the way, I don't understand how she could see things without eyes because her eyes were closed and there were no brain waves or hear things without ears.
I'm glad you don't understand it, but you have yet to explain it.
unidentified
Well, I'm saying the things that can be verified that seem to be definitely paranormal or weird or ESP or maybe the possible data showing that the consciousness exists outside the brain, that the mind and the brain can exist outside the brain, are the things that can be verified by the doctors and the nurses.
For example, seeing, Bill, I just finished telling you.
I'm going to have the doctor on.
unidentified
Well, what I'm saying is, but the things afterwards in this so-called other dimension, how do you know, for example, the beings there told her that God, the bright light was God breathing?
How do you know they weren't lying to her because she wouldn't understand what the real doctor was?
I mean, there are people who claim that they are, you know, they have some sort of electro-magnetic influence on things near them and that they affect the lights as they go by.
unidentified
Oh, I didn't know.
But I've searched the internet high and low for an explanation.
I want to remind you, we're reserving the first-time caller line for people who have been attacked by some sort of entity, physically attacked by some sort of entity.
Otherwise, call one of the other lines, open lines.
Back into the night we go.
Open lines, wildcard line, you are on.
unidentified
the air hello yes good evening art good evening where are you sir um i'm ronald and i'm in reading california listening to you kqms 1400 a.m yes sir and uh i i just really felt compelled to uh call you on this subject of uh entity attacks oh really because yes really i i have never shared this in full with another living human being i've shared bits and pieces with other people and
And that generally wound me up in a mental institution of one form or another.
Well, from the years, I'd say, 87 to 91, I experienced varying degrees of attack, beginning with mental attack, obsessive thinking, voices, shadow people, as you call them, appearing to me.
And at the corner of the eyes and darting glimpses and glances and such.
All right, so anyway, it began as it does for many people with the shadow people at the corner of the eye.
Then why?
unidentified
Well, I was married, had a good job with the government, and the torment became absolutely unbearable because these things were, the voices became incessant, and it was never a single voice.
It would be choruses of voices, as you had that one caller speaking of the other day.
And these things would appear to me at night when I was fully awake, possibly when I was asleep, I don't know, and I would see them.
And they were generally standing directly over me, and they were, as other callers have described, described, black and dark, but I would go a step further and say these things gave off an emanation of evil such as I have never experienced.
And the blackness was such that it had a depth and a gravity all of its own that would literally draw and pull myself into it.
And I would be so terrified that often I would scream.
And my wife, of course, would assume I was having nightmares.
I mean, you know, if somebody said what you're saying, they would indeed be diagnosed and treated with some sort of psychiatric drug.
Yeah, no question about it.
So it continued through that.
Did it ever get physical?
unidentified
Yes.
Toward the end, as I started desperately seeking for solutions outside of the mental health system, I tried everything.
I read everything I could get my hands on.
I consulted pastors and preachers, rabbis, anybody.
And as I tried and tried to seek help for relief from this torment, the attacks got incessant and then they became physical to where, for example, and it seemed nighttime is a favorite to these things.
I was in my bed at one night and something jumped on my bed and I absolutely froze and it started walking across my bed and I could feel the feet causing depressions in the mattress and also stepping on my legs and then on my midsection.
I managed to raise my head and by the light being filtered through the curtains, moonlight, streetlight, I could see what appeared to be something between a tarantula and a dog on the foot of my bed.
The reason why I was calling, I have no idea if you've ever had a guest on the air or anything like that to do dream analysis or anything of that nature.
Well, as childish as it may seem, this dream was actually where I'm being chased, and sometimes it involves members of my family where I'm actually being chased by dinosaurs.
Yes, as childish as it may seem, when you're there, you're seeing these dinosaurs dismember people that are around you.
Oh, well, listen, when the dinosaurs were here, what, 65 million years ago or whatever, they probably did.
There's a lot of instances of dinosaur imprints in rock along with human imprints in rock.
And, you know, we're finding now that it's quite probable that humans were here long before we suspected they were, you know, like back when the dinosaurs were here.
Well, if that's true, we'd be dinosaur fodder.
We'd be a tasty little snack for a dinosaur, and I can imagine humans would run real fast away from them.
unidentified
But what really brought reality to this, in fact, I had a dream just last night, actually, where I was being chased by people who wanted to murder me all the time.
The story always ends where I'm able to somehow manage to escape and to find People nearby in order to try and get some kind of help.
I've had dreams where I was in law enforcement beforehand.
This is probably where this dream came from.
Where I've been gunned down before, where I've been hit repetitively by bullets.
But like I said, the worst part about it was I have been actually chased down and stalked by murderers.
And in fact, one murder weapon that was being used, getting ready to be used upon me was a chainsaw at one time.
And last night I was actually able to, in this dream, I was actually able to escape through a window and try to get help.
But like I say, I have these repetitive dreams where I'm always being chased by something.
And mine happened to me when I was living in Dallas, and I was in an apartment, and it started out, you know, me and my friends talking about selling our souls, you know.
As a matter of fact, I got a house, man, with like brand new hardwood floors, like four bedrooms right now, and I live by myself.
But the thing about it was, it started out, you know, as like a joke, you know, because I just wanted to see if it would work and see what would happen.
I mean, offering to sell your soul, that's a real serious thing.
Yeah, yeah.
unidentified
I started having these, they didn't start out as a tax at first, but I didn't think much about it.
I would be in my bed and I would be asleep and I would be like I was in a trance state.
And the guy that called in earlier at the beginning of the program freaked me out because the same thing would happen to me.
I would like feel hands, like human hands, and they would push me out of my physical body and I would roll out of my bed onto the floor in spirit form and roll through doors and stuff.
And I would wake back up, you know, like try to wake myself up and I'd like, you know, open my eyes a little and I would be awake and I couldn't ever stay awake.
I just like I was tranced or drugged or something and I couldn't stay awake.
And that kept happening, you know, over and over and over.
And finally it happened again.
And what happened was I felt his hands on my ankles dragging me out of my bed.
Well, what happened was what made it disappear was it literally punched me in my stomach so hard that I woke up and I fell out of my bed onto the floor and I felt physical pain for like at least a good minute and a half after I was wide awake and I moved out of there and to a different state and it hasn't happened since.
Well, as a matter of sort of finality here, going back to the beginning of what you were saying, you and somebody, how many others, how many of you totally sat down trying to sell your souls to the devil?
How many of you?
unidentified
It was just like me and I think my friends were into it, but I think I was just more into it more than they were.
We've got an entity attack line, otherwise open lines all night long.
Devon in Avon, Ohio, or is it Avon?
Fast blast me, ART.
I'm 26 married, and my wife was picked up out of our bed, levitated over me while I was sleeping, and then dropped five feet on top of me.
We called our pastor to bless the house, and he was thrown, and then I didn't get any more than that, Devin.
If you would like to fast blast me your phone number, I will call you, Devin, because I think I'd like to hear that story.
It'd be weird to see your wife levitate five feet over you.
Well, she was asleep at the time, I guess.
Still, it would be something, wouldn't it?
I'm Art Bell.
If you'll stay right there, there's more directly ahead.
By the way, I want to thank everybody out there for the open line or special line suggestions that they wrote to me.
I decided myself on the entity attack line merely because I thought back, you know, a few days to that lady who told me about that attack, and it really freaked me out.
I thought, hmm, wouldn't it be interesting to find out if there's a lot more of that going on?
And quite obviously there is.
So I plucked that one out myself.
Nevertheless, I have saved some of your suggestions for future forays into the unknown.
I was calling because a friend of mine actually told me to listen to the station.
I never listened to your show, and I'm sorry for that, but I was listening, and a lot of these things that are happening to other people have been happening to me since I was two, and I'm 32 now.
The closest thing I can get to is, I don't know if you've recently I saw the movie 13 Ghost, and there's one of the bad guys on it that's called The Jackal.
And if you take the box off his head, that's one of them.
Well, I know it's kind of silly, but I started going to Bible study about six months ago, and I started deciding, well, I was going to open up to my friends and tell them what's going on.
And I did, so they all started praying for me, and it's gotten better, but I still have them on occasion, but they can't physically attack me anymore.
And so they'd bring in the medicine man and he would do his thing.
And I never really agreed with it, but I never knew too much about Jesus.
And when I was seven years old, I told a friend in second grade, I told her what was happening to me, and she gave me a little hand Bible she kept in her little backpack.
It had pictures in it and stuff.
And she said, pray to Jesus.
He'll save you.
So I took this home and my stepdad grabbed it and threw it in the fireplace because he was an atheist.
But the fact of the matter is, it's real, you see.
unidentified
Oh, yeah, it's extremely real.
And what I was telling you was when I was seven and I asked Jesus to come sleep with me to keep me safe that night, that's when they got violent.
They got extremely violent.
Well, they threw me into the wall and put a hole in the wall and popped my eardrum from the blow.
So my mom had to take me to the hospital or whatever.
She thought that I had did something because I didn't want to sleep alone.
I was afraid of the dark.
Well, she started believing me after a while when things like my door was ripped off the hinges and the door frame would be shredded, but no one woke up through any of it.
Well, Matthew, did you hear about the person who called a little while ago, and they said they tried to cast this thing out with the name of Jesus and so forth, and it didn't work?
unidentified
Well, when I tried that, it got violent.
But see, I was also on, I didn't know anything about Jesus, really.
I didn't know what I was doing, and I didn't have any faith.
I can't remember the name of the author, but in the book, it talks of hag attacks, and it says that maybe 10 to 15 percent, even more, of the population has been affected by them.
And a few years ago, something happened to me.
Well, what specifically is a hag?
What the book explained it as was exactly this.
I was laying in my bed, and I was completely awake.
I'd only been there for maybe 20 minutes.
And from the corner of my room, inside of the vent that the heater comes from, I saw a black, like a black ball.
And all of a sudden, over the next few seconds, this ball turned into a larger ball and came through the vent.
You know, both open closet doors and vents, which lead into cavernous areas connected to each other, have got to be breeding grounds for crap like this.
But anyway, so it came out the vent.
unidentified
It came out the vent.
I tried to think that maybe it was just my imagination.
I grabbed my hands.
I pulled my hands over the front.
And it became larger, like a huge moving ink block.
And it started to, like, well, it didn't, but the room, I noticed a smell.
And I became nervous, and I tried to get up, I couldn't.
It became larger, and it hovered over me.
I became completely frightened, more fear than anything I'd ever experienced.
I tried to move, I looked, I could barely move my head over, I couldn't move my arms.
I saw it growing larger and larger.
I closed my eyes.
It began to press me like into my bed.
I tried to scream, gurgles came through my throat.
My grandparents were down the hall.
There was no way they could hear me gurgles when I tried to scream.
Okay, when I was about eight, probably about eight years old, I remember I was at a house that I was living at with my grandparents and my father and his ex-wife.
Well, I was in the room, okay, and I was scared, you know, just basically because of the dark.
I didn't like sleeping in the dark.
So then my dad left the front door or the bedroom door open with the hall light on so that I wouldn't be quite as afraid.
Well, I began to lay down, and I remember I was still, you know, kind of scared.
And I laid there for a while, and I remember feeling afraid still.
But I hit my head under the covers, you know, like kids do.
But I was too afraid to go to sleep.
So I know I was 100% awake.
And I felt a presence, like I have through my life at many times, actually, but I felt this presence.
And I was on a bunk bed, and I was on the top bunk.
And whatever this was, of course, I believe it was a spirit, well, it pushed me on my chest.
Now, when it pushed me on my chest, it didn't just push me and, you know, I felt a push.
bro which is weird you know because it's like No, it's not weird because it verifies what you just said.
unidentified
what did your dad say well my dad and my family I mean I don't mean to sound you know like everybody's got their ghost stories and stuff but my family we've been very very open to these types of occurrences but you know it's like are you Exactly.
But I think I do.
I do know that they are personally from within, but that's just something different.
And I think that that's entirely possible, that the amount of fear is actually able, an emotion, is able to generate that which is feared.
It builds on itself, and it feeds on itself, and you create it.
Yes, that's as good an explanation as any.
unidentified
And perfect love, you know, it's been said in the Bible, you know, not that I'm a Bible thumper, but, you know, it's like I can see validity in all religions.
By faith I'm a Christian, but I couldn't see Jesus giving Buddha a black eye, you know.
But I think without a doubt, hands down, that perfect love, as it says, casts out fear, but I think perfect love comes through being wise through the years, right?
And basically through growing as a human being.
But when you're a child, you're naive and you're sensitive to these things.
Can you know perfect love without having experienced perfect fear, perfect anger, perfect depression?
You know, in other words, can you understand perfect love until you've been the other place?
unidentified
Well, you know, believe it or not, my personal feel on that is that when you actually feel perfect love and when you experience it and you find it, of course it does come through Rising above not being perfect.
But see, rising above not being perfect has to come through serious pain.
Well, I'm dying to know if there's other people that had something like this happen, but this ball, this light ball, came out of this large craft, and it came right up in front of us about 48 inches away.
It was about the size of a basketball.
It was extremely brilliant.
It looked like the end of a sparkler.
And it literally, I could feel it scan my brain quickly.
And then it went to my girlfriend and it spent some time with her and then it left.
It shot up into the sky and went back to this large craft.
She was very traumatized by this and spent about eight months in therapy.
From a craft, a ball of light scanning the brain, and then wonder what it did with the information that it downloaded from you, apparently.
I'm Art Bell.
This is Coast to Coast AM.
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Tonight, an encore presentation of Coast to Coast AM from December 7, 2001.
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7, 2001.
Coast to Coast AM from December 7, 2001.
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When in the wind I'm okay, when the tree crowned me, when the usual look at their birth and you're listening to Ark Bell Somewhere in Time on Premier Radio Networks, tonight an encore presentation of Coast to Coast AM from December 7th, 2001.
From the land where things go perumps in the night.
This is Coast to Coast AM and I'm Art Bell.
Great to be here.
We've got a special line open for entity attacks.
It's my entity attack line.
Only those who have actually been physically attacked by an entity qualify.
Any other cause can delve into any subject you wish.
It's an open line Friday night, Saturday morning.
If you'll stay right there, we'll get right back to it.
Well, you should see some of the fast blasts that I'm getting tonight.
Shelly in California writes, I was attacked by a spirit who plunged a butcher knife into my pillow and then told me what he wanted.
Shelly, you should fast blast me your phone number.
No one else will see it, just me.
And I'll call you and we'll get that story on the air.
So if you have a similar story, and it's really a very, very good one, you know, you can fast blast me a phone number, and I'd be more than happy to get hold of you.
In the meantime, the lines are jammed, so the odds of any single person making it through are, you know, somewhat slim.
And there was two marks, just say not two, but two hand imprints, eight in total.
And like imprints of a hand.
And immediately, we're looking at it, up her, this is on the ankle now, up, going up from the ankle towards her middle inner thigh, it started to bleed.
This skin started to bleed.
Immediately, of course, I applied pressure on it, it stopped.
I mean, there's nothing, I mean, the hood, the hood, no face, and it said, it's time to come with me now.
I looked at him, I said, I'm not scared of you, whoever you are, and I'm not coming with you.
Immediately it said that it was coming towards me, and then automatically, the nurse or the doctor was putting those two, what's it called, stuff to paddles on my chest.
Immediately I woke up.
And I said, what happened?
They said, I went into heart failure, and my heart stopped for the last eight seconds.
I mean, when you open up these kinds of lines, you never know what you're going to get.
And we're definitely getting our money's worth tonight.
I had no idea that there really were so many, there are so many of you out there that have been attacked in such a violent way.
It's astounding.
Wildcard line, you're on the air.
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Hello.
Yes.
Hello.
Yeah, I went to Job Corps back in the early 80s and met a guy that told me stories about how him and his family were severely attacked by demons all the time and that his little brother and stuff would end up with black eyes and just bad luck all the time.
I mean, it was horrible the way he described his life.
They'd be like driving out of the parking lot and the wheels would fall off their cars and just numerous accounts of just horrible encounters with different type of entities in their home and stuff.
And we were talking one night and all of a sudden, out of the blue, right up in the little corner of the room, it was like there were tens of thousands of angels in a circle looking down on us.
It was like all these eyes were just beaming down on us.
Yes.
And I know this sounds really freaky, but I'm telling you, at the same time, we both seen it, and just chills just went up and down our body.
And it was the most frightening thing.
I mean, it was frightening, but in another sense, it was kind of...
It may have been.
But I tell you, and when me and my brother were children, we used to get visited by this woman called the Dostoll Woman.
She used to climb down out of the attic from the closet.
And our mom, she kind of believed us, but our dad, you know, he always was real skeptical.
He didn't believe anything.
And one night it sounded like somebody was setting the table in the dining room with knives, forks, spoons, plates, just like somebody was setting the table like about 2.30 in the morning.
And my brother and I, we were petrified, you know, because we had this room right off the dining room, and my mom and dad were in the front of the house, and we were witnessing all this stuff, and we could see like two legs, white legs.
Do you know what I mean, like the pajamas of the old-fashioned pajamas?
Now we would see two legs jumping over the table back and forth and then walk around the table and you could hear plates and stuff being set out on the table.
Then the spirit would come through the doorway there into our room and walk around our bed and grab our legs and stuff.
And it was just horrible.
I mean, we were petrified kids for a long time.
we live with this you know and this this first time i've ever told anybody you know and i know a lot of people are hearing this right now but yeah it's not something you would you Yeah, and I tell you, we've had so many things happen, Art.
If you hadn't resisted, if you had let this thing, this black thing with red eyes, proceed to what it was going to do, if you'd been frozen in fear and couldn't have moved, what do you think would have happened?
But interestingly, even those have been filling up with attack stories.
Ever expect you'd hear so many?
I certainly didn't.
But then again, I'm constantly surprised about this program.
Well, if you're out there driving across the country tonight in the middle of the night in the darkness, you're probably spending a lot of time looking in the rearview mirror, I'd suspect.
All right, my caller, East of the Rockies, here has something else.
Go ahead.
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Hi.
Yeah.
Also, earlier this week, I heard that Dick Clark is going to be hosting the New Year's celebration in New York.
And so we really need to remain on alert and expect about anything, and we'll probably get it.
West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hello.
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Hi, Art.
Hello.
Hi.
I have a couple of quick stories to tell you.
I'll give you the first one that's more amazing than the other.
The first one is, when I was a young man, 22, I shared an apartment going through school with some roommates, and we started messing around with the Ouija board.
And I have to catch my breath because this still sets me back a few steps just to think about it.
We did the Ouija board, and we saw some things happening.
We saw the doors open and close by themselves.
We saw the Ouija board leave the floor and fly off by itself.
For some reason, I decided that I wanted to have power.
And I started threatening the devil.
And I started saying, you know what, I think Jesus is the king, and I don't think that you are anything, and I think you're fake, and you're a fraud, and so prove it to me that you are all-powerful.
And nothing happened.
I walked up to the wall, and I stood at the wall, and I held my hand out as though I was Jesus on a cross, and I said the following.
This is very difficult for me to talk about because I'm a Christian, and I've renewed my faith, and so I don't like to give the devil any more credence.
And for every moment of your life, after you've done something like that, you would have to wonder...
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if the deal really wasn't consummated on my entity attack line you're on the air mr. Bell yes sir yes I'm I'm I'm calling uh regarding uh an attack made on my mother back in the early 80s your mother yes sir okay I'm calling from Victorville California it's kind of a comical story not to make light of the subject but one evening we we've seen shadows and colors and things in our peripheral vision at times in
the house knocking.
One evening my mom went to sleep and she said she was in a real deep sleep that night.
For some reason she is usually a light sleeper.
When she had woken up in the morning she had felt some soreness and sensitivity around one of her eyes.
She got up and she went into the restroom and once she wiped the sleep out of her eyes she looked into the mirror and she noticed some blackening and bruising around her eye.
Oh really?
And her eyebrow on top of the same eye was plucked to perfection.
And she did not feel no pain while it was happening but she could tell that it had been plucked because of the sensitivity she had felt in the morning.
You might have thought what we were thinking of was some type of female spirit who was real, if you might say vain, and had a problem with my mom's eyebrows.
And why I find this interesting and I think it'd be a good subject matter for future show is is this book was written in 1989 and I just came across it this year.
And it has the directions to the city of Atlantis in it on how it could be found, which seemed to match up exactly with where Atlantis has currently been found.
And it's been, I guess, in 1990, it was looked at by a group of gemologists, I guess.
I guess what it's called and they said that this particular crystal ball was by no means man-made they'd never seen anything like it and it was bathed in I can't remember that it's a green lake I can't It escapes me the name of it.
But anyway, they put it in this green lake and it absorbs the color of green afterwards.
And it blows up telephones and fast machines and refrigerators.
And they ended up having to put this crystal ball in a safe away from electrical things because it was causing so many problems.
But why I thought you might find it interesting is because you've had past guests talking to you about magnetic energy.
Well, we shouldn't be surprised at this because there was an obvious technology in these ancient times that we don't have now, that we haven't remembered or relearned or a science path we haven't gone down, but they had some sort of technology and power that we don't have a clue about.
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Right, and that's exactly what this book, the channeled message, is saying that within when Atlantis was found, that at that point they would also be finding these other temples with the crystal balls in them.
And that's where the hidden secret of magnetic energy and how to create magnetic energy would be found.
And we would then learn, you know, how to store it and harvest it.
I've been in Illinois for 10 years now and I had the same phenomenon happening here with several streetlights, one on my block where I live and several in the town.
But I can tell you there are many, many people who experience what you experience, so you're not alone.
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Yeah, so I mean, I've never heard anybody ever talk about this, and I've never talked about it to anybody until I heard it on your show about two weeks ago.
And when I heard that, man, it was chilling to the bone.
I was laying in bed next to my wife.
And the only thing I could equivalent it to is these void black creatures like in the movie Ghost that were pressing down my hands, holding them down, and kind of like pressing on my chest, choking me.
I could barely squeak out her name, also, you know, trying to call her name out.
And I almost had the power or the strength to just almost press them back to sit up, but they would just kind of like press me back down.
Well, she actually woke up hearing me try to say her name, and the minute she said, what, what's wrong, these things were gone, and I sprung up out of bed, you know, with the coldest sweats you ever could imagine.
As usual, when I do this kind of thing, we're getting more than we bargained for by far.
It's a Friday night, Saturday morning, generally open lines, with that exception, and it actually has dominated.
So if you'll stay right where you are, and I imagine you're fairly frozen in place anyway, if you've been listening, we'll get to more of it in a moment.
And of course, once you're there, you're kind of stuck for a few minutes.
And anyway, I would run to the bathroom and I would feel this entity or something, evil, coming toward the bathroom down the hall.
And it was like the longer I was in there, the stronger the presence became.
And, you know, I would finish what I was doing and immediately dash back into my bed and throw the covers over my head, and I could feel this presence all around me.
Something grabbed me by the neck, jerked me straight up in the bed.
It wasn't choking me, and there was no pressure or anything like that, but it physically pulled me straight up in the bed, and I couldn't scream because I was too scared, not because I was choking.
And when I finally let go, it was one of those blood-curdling, you know, when a male is really scared, it's very different when they scream than a female.
And anyway, so I screamed, and my dad was an ex-paratrooper, you know, born-again hard type.
And he comes out of his bedroom with his gun in his hand, and because I guess that scream, he must have taken it pretty seriously, and flipped on the light.
And he looked at me and, you know, immediately was kind of mad at me.
It's like, what's wrong with you, boy?
And that kind of thing.
And I couldn't say anything.
I was just too scared.
and he looked down at the floor and there was a pair of boots beside the bed.
And he runs off into the living room with his gun in his hand, turning on lights as he goes.
He emptied the, I believe it was a Browning 380 automatic.
It was an old, I think it was an old military issue of some sort.
All the shots rang out, and of course we're all really frightened by now.
And a few minutes later, my dad returns, and he's white as a sheet.
My mother's calling the police, and the police finally arrive only to, when they go to come in the house, at that point in time, my dad realizes that all the doors and windows are locked and had been.
And so it must have been like an invisible something attacking you.
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Yeah, it was like I was being reprimanded or something because before, in times past, I'd get up and search around the house and who's there or what do you want?
And finally, it just happened so much, I got accustomed to it, so I decided to ignore it.
As I got older, I would start being attacked physically, mainly just laying in bed, and I would feel an evil presence, and it would, you know, like a lot of other people, a pressure on my chest, not being able to move, not being able to scream, not being able to say anything.
You know, of course, I didn't know what it was, and like a lot of other people, they don't know exactly what it is.
When I got married a few years ago, I started going to church, and I started learning about things like what quote-unquote demons and things like that can do and what they're capable of and they're agents of the devil and blah, blah, blah.
And that answered a lot of questions for me as far as these attacks.
But the attacks didn't stop.
As a matter of fact, they became, when I started going to church, they became more frequent.
And, of course, you know, it's like that man that called from Memphis earlier about, you know, he had sold his soul or experimented with selling his soul to the devil and all that.
And then when he was being attacked, you know, he tried screaming out the name of Jesus and it didn't work.
Then invoking the name of Jesus is not going to help you.
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It does you know good.
You know, and I just wonder, I just wonder, as many people as you've had on here that have had these attack stories of these entities or demons or shadow people or whatever you want to call them, how many, what percentage of those people believe in God?
Well, I guess if you begin to have some fatal disease and you're fading away on your deathbed and you see the green guy, you're going to know it went wrong.
And the Dropa Stone-shaped craft that were miles long, and then there was a photograph taken by the lady of the Dropa.
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Yes.
And well, anyways, in this week's episode of the new Star Trek Enterprise show, the Enterprise came across an alien vessel that was on its way to a protostar that the people that were on the vessel were going to this protostar because they believed that once
every 11 years it gave off a neutron blast that represented the beginning of the universe.
So ironically enough, in the greeting of this alien civilization, one of the members, the spokesman, gives the captain of the Enterprise a clock that looks very, very suspiciously like one of the Tropistones.
It was a clear crystal type thing, but it was the same round shape with a little notch in it.
I think that the people who write the scripts for things like Star Trek and other science fiction monitor what's really going on in the world right now.
And wouldn't it be irresistible to take a shape like that and weave it into your story?
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Yes.
And of course, this is supposed to be a future extension of NASA itself, which is what really drew me to the correlation.
And apparently what this guy told was that this clock charts time from the beginning of the universe.
Yes, and it started happening when I got born again.
And I should mention that I'm from a Yes.
And I renounced the Indian culture, and that's when it started happening, because I'm from a tribe that, you know, total holes and graven images and all these things.
And it has never let up.
And I was very encouraged by that man who said he fasted because it seems to me it's been laid on my heart, you know, to fast.
You would think just the very opposite, that when somebody would embrace Christianity, if what a lot of Christians say, when she embraced it, that troubles of that sort would lessen, not would not magnify and not begin.
And he would walk around, mostly sundowns, evenings, people would come up to the door, especially women.
He would appear suddenly at them.
Never hurt them, but just startled them.
So he took a liking to teasing people, scratching on the window.
He'd open the curtains and there he'd be and then he'd disappear, grab you in the middle of the night, or you'd walk to the bathroom and bump into him and he'd laugh and disappear.
So I went out there, I went to the fuse box, and the fuses had been unscrewed and dropped onto the ground.
So at this point, I'm hoping it's a physical person that's doing this, and I decided to go back into the house after I got that light back on, locked the doors, and the butcher knife's gone.
An Irish brogue, and he tells me that he was a whaler.
First, he had been a man who groomed horses somewhere in Ireland, joined a whaling vessel, made money, heard about the gold fever in California, went to California, and died on the ground where my house was in a fight, a knife fight.
Wayne follows him into the barn, and there's nobody there.
So Wayne calls my mom and says, what's going on?
Who's this guy that Shelly promised horses to?
So mom explained the story.
So Wayne had a friend who needed to board horses.
So he told the friend, put your horses in my corral, bring your hay, leave them there for a while.
I'll give you some free space.
Because he wanted to see what was going to happen.
The guy came back the next morning and said, well, if your night watchman's going to take care of my horses and feed them and water them, I want to pay him for it.
So Wayne goes back to the watchman.
The watchman says, I don't know what's going on.
There's lights in the barn.
These horses are going in and out of the barn by themselves.
I hear water.
I hear food.
I'm not going near the place to quit the job.
But the horses have been brushed, fed, and watered.
Well, it ended with him moving into the house across the street that Wade owned that had a widow's walk, like this New England and Irish homes, you know.