Art Bell welcomes psychic medium James Van Praagh, who debunks skepticism by detailing verified spirit communications—like an axe murderer’s self-created "hell" of reliving their crimes or Lincoln’s premonition-validating visit. Van Praagh ties afterlife energy to Earthly deeds, dismissing physical attachments (e.g., cremation vs. burial) as irrelevant to souls’ progression, while warning about "psychic vampires" and shadow entities like those in a caller’s choking photo. He insists spirits adapt faster when freed from magnetic ties, urging listeners to send love—not obsession—to aid the dead’s evolution. Van Praagh’s upcoming projects, including Talking to Heaven (Feb.), Beyond (Sept.), and global tours with Dr. Brian Weiss, aim to bridge intuition and science, despite media skepticism. [Automatically generated summary]
I did you all a good evening, good morning, good afternoon, where you may be across this great land of us well beyond, because we cover all 24 times Martell, and this is coast to coast a.
Well, it's going to be mainly an open line hour this hour.
I do have something I want to call to your attention right away.
A cannon is dead.
Peter Fisk is his name, and he has done what actually I did do a couple of times.
I'm almost ashamed to admit, but not quite.
Fisk, he says, writes, I recently exercised my Second Amendment right to repair a Canon BJ5100 printer.
When the green light would not stop flashing, the solution is on page 357 of the owner's manual.
The Ruger 45 bundle line is merely included in the photo for perspective.
No firearms were harmed in the filming of this printer repair job.
You know, this has happened to me, and I get nothing but the best.
Cannon and Hewlett-Packard and all the rest of it, but it's just, it's kind of, there's something about electronics.
As you know, I'm kind of an electronics kind of person, and I have never been able to let anything rest.
If something is wrong, I will either A, repair it, and I'll spend days at that, even dreaming about what might be wrong, or B, in final desperation, break it so that nobody else will ever use it again.
And when I was younger, and less patient, I did a couple of times shoot electronic stuff.
I finally lost my temper after every possible attempt was made, and I did what Peter has done so graphically.
He includes the photos.
And if that's you, you know, if you've done this kind of thing yourself, or even thought or dreamed of it, you will appreciate what Peter has done here.
So we put that up on the website for you if you'll go to artbell.com and merely look at what's new.
I see that Keith has entitled it, Fun, Colon, What to Do with a Broken Printer.
Computer stuff can be frustrating.
All right, briefly in the news, the war, the Taliban supreme leader radioed his commanders on Wednesday and called them to fight to the death against Americans in southern Afghanistan.
In other words, we're getting close to home there.
Meanwhile, Pentagon said Wednesday that U.S. airstrikes damaged a compound near the Taliban's strongest and last stronghold, Kandahar.
And so we're moving in on them.
I still reach out and ask you, if we get Osama bin Laden, what do we do with him?
Nobody seems to have too many answers to that.
Well, we fry him in big fat heart.
Or, you know, something like that.
But, I mean, what really do we do with him?
Do we kill him on the spot, bring him home, have a big trial?
Or, I don't know, something else.
A CIA officer, Johnny Mike Spann, killed at Mazar-isharif in northern Afghanistan.
He was the first American to die in action inside Afghanistan since the U.S. bombing began.
Imagine that.
All of this war going on.
And we are now reporting the first man killed in action.
Others have died in accidents outside the country, but related to the war.
But he is the first person, the first, to die in action.
And he's a CIA guy.
The House overwhelmingly approved $20 billion in an anti-terrorism package tonight.
Do you now feel safer?
After derailing a Democratic drive to defy the president and add billions more for domestic security.
Infantry from the Army's 10th Mountain Division have crossed from Uzbekistan into northern Afghanistan to help protect other Americans in dangerous areas near two air bases.
And I still am amazed that so soon after the Cold War, we are basing troops in former Russian republics.
Now, imagine, you know, 15 years ago or less, if we had suggested that U.S. troops would be based in Soviet territory, or more likely former Soviet territory.
People would have laughed, right?
But there they are.
The U.S. signed a contract today to buy 155 million doses of smallpox vaccine from a British firm.
That'll bring the nation's stockpile to 286 million doses, and that's almost enough to get one for everybody, right?
Oh, listen.
Somebody emails me.
I bet you've forgotten it, too.
It.
Right?
Remember it?
Remember Dean Kamen's It, the Mysterious It?
Well, finally, probably because you're forgetting it, Dean Kamen is going to reveal it, I understand, Ginger or It to Diane Sawyer on December 3rd on the Good Morning America show.
And maybe having received all of the publicity and fervor that was created about it, now it's time to reveal Whatever it is.
What do you think it might be?
I've lost faith that I know what it might be.
Here's a really interesting article that will confirm what I thought and what a lot of you have thought.
MSNBC writes the article, and it's entitled The High-Tech Hunt for Terrorist Lairs.
And guess what, folks?
Without reading you the whole article, it basically says the U.S. is using special new technology known as HARP from Alaska to look for underground caves and bunkers in Afghanistan and locate you know who.
Did you ever doubt it for a moment?
I mean, if there was a technology that would uncover underground caves and bunkers and hidey holes and whatever all underground, that was one of the original stated goals of HARP.
And so you know darn well they're using it.
I wonder what other interesting effects it might be having.
They just discovered that under the frozen surface of the Arctic Ocean, this is a Reuters news story, scientists sailing aboard a U.S. Coast Guard icebreaker have discovered a searing cauldron of activity, including underwater volcanic movement and deep-sea hot springs that may harbor previously unknown forms of life.
Isn't that interesting?
One of the areas left to explore on our globe is the ocean, the deep, deep ocean, and under the Arctic Ocean there appears to be life.
I wonder what kind of life they're going to find there.
The scientist mapped and studied the Gackle Ridge.
This apparently runs for about 1,100 miles from north of Greenland to Siberia beneath the Arctic ice cap.
It is the deepest, most remote portion of the global mid-Atlantic Ridge system.
And oh, what they're finding there.
It's really, really, really interesting.
Black smoker chimneys.
These are volcanic vents at the bottom of the very deep ocean.
And around them grows this strange, never-before-seen life of some kind.
I guess we're going to find out.
Almost like going to another planet, very close to going to another planet.
Here's a kind of an interesting story.
The September 11th attacks apparently have spurred a baby boom.
The words came to Ann Travers as she watched her husband sleep that night.
He's going to make an excellent father.
And there it was, the answer she'd been searching for, her personal response to tragedy after walking out of Manhattan and turning to watch the World Trade Center collapse.
Little more than 10 days later, Fragers, pregnant, I mean.
Not long after, so was Stacey Stapleton, who made the decision with husband Paul to have a child as fighter jet crews flew over their Manhattan apartment.
In other words, in the middle of this tragedy, Americans were so shocked and emotionally at a peak that many, many, many of them have made babies.
Not quite a war boom, but pretty doggone close.
So you watch, nine months after the September 11th period, there are going to be all kinds of birth in America.
And I wonder what this says about us.
When faced with our darkest moments, I guess on the light side, on the bright side, we could say we turn to each other.
We cling closer, much closer, than ever before to the one near us.
And of course, other things could be said that I wouldn't say, but for some reason, when it gets rough, when going gets rough out there, people get going.
Anyway, open lines.
Anything you want to talk about for the balance of this hour, and then coming up next hour is James von Prague.
To the telephones and anything you would like to talk about in the world, remember, when you answer, when I answer the phone, that means, boom, you're on the air.
Yeah, I mean, your plane would have been all right.
I mean, if you had been booked on that flight.
And I think this is the key.
You know, people say these things all the time.
Oh, I was afraid of flying.
If you had actually been booked on that specific flight and you had been so freaked out, you had canceled your flight for whatever reason and stayed home, then I'd be having some deep thought about it.
But just based on what you told me, Wildcard line, you're on the air.
Bill, but you know, the more I think about this, actually, the more I like it.
If ever I have thought anybody deserved JC, it might well be you, Bill.
unidentified
Yes, there's nothing virtually we would agree upon.
He would be so shocked with all the erotica and pornography, x-rated stuff, adult, of course, adult material that I read, and all the delicious food I eat, you know, lobster and filet mignon that he can't see in and working.
Nearly as I can tell, with all of the evidence that I have in hand, and it's a fair amount, it appears to have been, at least insofar as the injuries that we documented were concerned, it appears to have been an old-fashioned fight.
I mean a roundhouse fight.
Now, there may be something else well beyond that, of course, but what I have evidence of is that there was a fight.
unidentified
Yes, sir.
Okay, can I put in a plug for one of your products?
Sure.
The Bayless clockwork generator.
Generator radio.
My son gave me one for my birthday, and I love it.
And it's not as good as the CC radio for different things.
I was looking at National Geographic, and there was a map in there.
It was about some of the exploration of the North Pole back in about the 1830s.
Yes.
And there were two little crosses on this National Geographic map showing where the North Pole was in 1835 and where it was when they did the map around 1999.
Did you know that the magnetic North Pole has moved 635 miles?
We have seen it wobble actually as much as 10 or 15 degrees on the compass.
There are times when it begins to wobble and get really, really weird.
And of course, those times are when we're having geomagnetic storms.
And if you recall last night's guest, he said that almost all, you know, he really verified everything I've ever thought, that almost all human behavior is to some degree affected by what goes on in the sun and the way the Earth's geomagnetic field is affected by the sun.
It really is the source of all life and the effect on all life.
And that's why I follow what goes on in the sun very, very closely when we are having intense geomagnetic storms, as by the way we are now, people are a little more on edge.
There's more crime.
There's probably more war.
There's probably more baby making.
There's all kinds of A-class activity that goes on when the sun is really raging.
And trust me when I tell you right now, the sun is really raging almost another X-class today.
I'm Art Bell.
unidentified
I've been drifting on the sea of heartbreak, trying to get myself ashore for so long for so long.
Listen to the stranger stories Wondering where it all went wrong For so long For so long But hold
on, hold on, hold on To what you got Hold on, hold on, hold on To what you got I've been dreaming of a new tomorrow Our nation's premier psychic James von Prague at the top of the hour.
It should be very, very, very interesting program.
He's got a new book, by the way, called From Heaven and Earth.
I just took a webcam photograph, which you can also see on my website a few minutes ago, holding James' new book.
In other words, we get him in jail and then give him access to the press.
That's what you want to do?
unidentified
Well, no, I'm thinking more like an Eichmann kind of a thing, maybe even in a trial setting kind of a thing, and expose him for what he is and let the world see what he's all about.
Yeah, I noticed after September the 11th that women suddenly, and on a scale of 0 to 10, I'm about a 4 or 5, and these women in my job, in my workplace, suddenly became very attractive to me.
They were joking with me and talking with me more.
Or do you suppose that the women, I don't know, facing the emotional trauma that we all faced and then the war and the danger and all the rest of it just became more amorous?
unidentified
Yes, it prompted them.
It prompted them.
I am this.
I mean, I am one way from beginning to end, and it was clearly art.
It was them.
It's a biological thing.
I always thought we were more spiritual, but I'm beginning to wonder now.
Well, there are a lot of people out there who send me emails and say, Art, you know, this whole discussion is so dumb because clones are nothing more than twins.
Oh, how wrong they are.
They don't even begin to understand the implications of what can be done with cloning.
Twins are a natural occurrence.
This means you could just take a little bit of hank of hair and whatever, you know, and create another you, a younger but precisely another you.
And then you could begin to tamper with the genes and make a smarter you, a dumber you, a servant you, an organ availability you.
So I've been, if you take into account the maltreatment of the women in the Taliban Society and how badly they've been persecuted, I think if we capture bin Laden, I think we should give him a complete sex change and send him back to the Taliban Society as a woman.
Either that or take him up to the stadium, the famous stadium where the Taliban used to do its executions, and have a women-only night and just sort of leave him there.
In fact, I've been listening to talk radio since actually I turned you on in 1995 in Anchorage, Alaska, and then I started calling shows in early 2000.
And this year, I actually, down here in Tampa, I started doing a public access television show.
And my question to you, sir, is I almost got into the point where there's so much out there that every day, you know, each story we get just a whole new plethora of things to talk about.
But one of the things I found, and my question to you, sir, is do you sometimes find suddenly you look up all the different things you want to talk about and you think to yourself, where's the love?
Where's the positivity that we try to promote?
In fact, I even implore people to even call my show and say, if you have anything positive you can find in the newspaper.
And it's not so much I look at the negative because there was a lot of things that have come out from September 11th that is positive, and I think that is one good thing.
But I think sometimes the print media tends to almost get in a sense where we almost get in a point where it's hard to find.
Why do you think there isn't a lot of good news that makes it to the news?
Why do you think that is?
unidentified
I think because of what you just said, sir, I think what really sells is the things that actually, when you start looking at our news programs, they're almost looking like entertainment programs these days.
Well, apparently during the medieval era, they would have so many stray cats and dogs in European cities, and then, of course, they weren't looked after.
When they died, they would find someplace to curl up, and when it would have a real, what we call out here, a gully washer, it would wash them into the street, and people would say it was raining cats and dogs.
And I think it would be a really wise idea to start clubs, call them primitive survival societies, if you want, where whole families would learn primitive survival skills and primitive, you know, like colonial American type make do, like how to make soap.
And by percentage, as you consider the entire population of the U.S., how many people do you think percentage-wise would feel or do feel the way you do?
unidentified
Probably more than we think.
Because I just did a thumbnail, would you be interested?
And I tend to go for the so-called wacky things anyway.
So I've gotten quite a few people when I broach the subject who would go, yeah, I'd like to do that.
And, you know, we already have some people doing similar things.
You know, they're so attached to modern conveniences that to be literally thrust back to the Stone Age when it was all gone, they'd rather be dead, but not you.
unidentified
No, I don't think so.
I mean, although today was really fun because when I woke up, there was no power, and they finally got it on, and it was on for an hour, and it went out again.
And the first time it went out, I thought, well, crap, there goes civilization.
And when it came on, I said, oh, it's back, correct?
James von Prague is arguably the single most famous and successful spiritual medium of our time.
World-renowned for his extraordinary ability to communicate with spirits of men, women, children, and even animals who have died.
His lectures, demonstrations, and spiritual tours have drawn thousands of people in the U.S. and well abroad.
He's been a featured speaker on Oprah, Larry King Live, countless other TV and radio shows, including this program, as well as being interviewed in the New York Times, People Magazine, just about everywhere, really.
A television mini-series is being produced based on his first book, Talking to Heaven.
This CBS special will star actor Ted Danson and is scheduled to air in February of 2002.
Von Frog is also in production for a new TV talk show, Beyond, with James Frog.
Yes, I have a mini-series actually coming out, a four-hour miniseries with Ted Danson and Mary Steenberg and his wife, Jack Palance, Queen Latifah, and Diane Ladd.
Well, it's going to be the story of how I began to become aware of my psychic ability and my whole ability to communicate with spirit.
And then it goes into the last part would be based upon one of the readings I did for someone who actually turned out to be a lady who came to me who assumed her son committed suicide.
He came through and told her, no, I did not commit suicide.
I was murdered by my best friend over a bad drug deal.
And he came through and gave her details, the name of the person, and all these incredible things.
No, actually, I look back and I think, no, you know, when I first started doing this 20 years ago, my mission, I felt, and my promise I made to myself, was to get this awareness, this understanding of life after death that we do live on to as many people as possible to educate people, enlighten people with this knowledge.
And the TV shows and the lectures, the books, it really brings it to that mass level.
And I think it's wonderful.
I think it's just incredible.
I can't tell you that thousands and thousands of letters I receive from people who say their lives have completely changed.
Their perspectives of death has changed.
And really, it's changed their lives here on this earth for the better, too.
What about those who claim it is written so in the Bible, that, you know, when you're dead, you really are dead, and until the appointed time comes, you're not going to be talking to anybody or rising or whatever?
But one of the first experiences of spirit, well, I mean, there's so many as a kid, but I mean, one of those I recall, I was with some friends again in school, probably around eight, nine years of age.
And during lunch, we went to a cemetery, which was close to the school.
Just for the heck of it.
Just, you know, kids will do these sorts of things.
And we're sitting under a tree, just hanging out and playing and catching ball or something.
And I looked over to the far end of the cemetery, and there were two little children, I would say around four or five years old, just running around this tombstone.
And I said, hey, you guys, look at those two kids over there.
And they said, what two kids?
And I said, look, those kids are playing over there.
I said, what are you talking about, James?
You're crazy.
We walked over there.
As we walked over, I didn't see the two little children anymore.
We looked at their tombstone.
They were playing Around, and it was a brother and sister who had died at the age of five.
And they frequently, I mean a lot, they go to graveyards and they get a lot of electronic voice phenomena at graveyards.
Well, you know, the clear implication here is, and by the way, they get a disturbing number of children.
They still don't understand why, but they get a disturbing number of children's voices.
It's really eerie to listen to.
And after what you just told me, my question would be, you know, whatever we think of the afterlife, I wouldn't want to think that I'd be hanging around my gravestone, my place of interment, or my ashes, you know, should I be burned or whatever.
I just don't want to hang around the place that I'm disposed of, so to speak.
And it just doesn't seem like a likely afterlife to me, James.
But you have to realize that you are what you think.
So you are what your mind has created and what you believe.
So, for instance, if you believe it's an afterlife, you will go to that place where you believe.
If you don't believe in much of anything, you'll kind of stay put because your mind hasn't placed you in a place.
I find that those people, and also esoterically, when we talk about the spirit leaving the physical, they find that cremation is the best way because in some way it burns the magnetic ties one would have to the physical body.
And also, they say that the spirit cannot come back into the physical body.
You know, to me, on the other side, we've got Raiders' cheerleaders, we've got endless beer, we've got radio, we've got all the cool things that I love in life.
I guess as kids, we had this one place called the Bell House in New York.
And it was supposedly haunted.
And we went there, and I remember we went to the house, looking around, it was an abandoned house.
And I walked into one of the rooms, and I saw people dancing, like ballroom dancing.
And they weren't there physically, they were spiritually.
But I would tell my friends what I was seeing, and we went upstairs to another room, and we found all these photographs in this room, and there were people actually in very similar situations showing them dancing at nightclubs and this sort of thing.
Very similar.
And one of the faces on that photograph was one of the spirits that I saw in the ballroom downstairs.
And that was, again, as a child.
When I got older, I'd say I closed down, just like most of us do, around the age of 9, 10, 11.
We become conditioned by society and believe in, you know, those sorts of things which we're taught.
I began to meditate, and I'd say within several months as I was meditating, I began to hear voices again as I did when I was a child, and I began to see spirits around people once again, like I did when I was a child.
Or they would tell kids, oh, that's your imaginary playmate.
Well, I believe that most kids probably do see spirit because, number one, they're closer to that world because they've just come from there most recently.
So that's where their mindset is.
Yes, there could be imaginary playmates as well, but I think a large majority are spirits that these children are seeing.
Well, I don't mean to be rude, but has anybody ever suggested to you at any point in your life that you see a psychiatrist, that something was really wrong?
I mean, I didn't necessarily believe in these sorts of things.
But what happened was I was bringing through this information from these spirits, and the information was validated by the person I was reading every single time.
So there's the proof right there.
The proof is in the message.
The names and the, you know, and the first one I did was I was working at this job.
I was so funny.
And I looked at this girl and I said, now this might sound crazy to you, but do you mind if I ask you a question?
And she goes, no, of course not.
I said, do you know someone named Helen who lived in Idaho in a white house with yellow shutters?
And she said, how come you're saying that?
And I said, I feel impressed to say that to you.
And I know it sounds bizarre.
Please forgive me.
She said, well, no, it's not that.
But my grandmother, my favorite grandmother who raised me, lived in Idaho in a white house with yellow shutters.
And Dan I have spent time with, and Dan, he's a wonderful guy, but you don't want to spend a lot of time with him because he absolutely freaks you out.
I mean, he will start describing things, cars in certain locations, what's going on right now.
He will tell you what's going on hither and yon.
And it's unnerving.
I mean, it's just not, I don't want to say it's unpleasant, but in some ways it is.
When I bring through messages of people, I mean, it always blows me away, too, because, for instance, I was in New York two weeks ago and I did a lecture for 500 people.
And one of the readings that came through, I said, there's a young man here who's a brother who died and they had the same birthday one day apart.
The man in the last row of the auditorium raised his hand.
That's me.
I said, your brother's here.
He's giving me the name Constance.
That's his name.
And he went on and on all these details.
And this guy stood and goes, I don't believe in this sort of thing.
And the brother said, well, I know you don't believe this, but I'm going to freak you out right now and make you believe.
He proceeded to tell this guy how the left wheel on his trailer carrying the boat fell off on the freeway.
He told him how he died, how his grandfather died, what was located in a trunk.
He said to the audience, you guys, this stuff is real.
Oh, my God.
Went on and on.
And what happened, which I thought was amazing, and he was very, he was great because he wasn't really open to this sort of thing.
It was a first experience.
Later, two days after that, I had a book signing out on Long Island, all the way out Long Island.
This guy went to that book signing to tell the people at the store who was sitting there listening to me that I was real and that this changed his life.
Well, you know, part of my job, which I have found that I need to do because of the unfortunate falsehoods that go along with this line of work, I am like Houdini, where I go and I point out people who are trying to get over another people.
It's unfortunate that there are people in this field who have to do that, even psychic hotlines, that sort of thing.
I have not personally encountered that degree of that.
I have encountered people who do very general types of messages, and I really question that.
Because to me, mediumship, I mean, a decent medium, you have to give details, I mean, specific details that no one would possibly know.
I haven't encountered a lot of that myself.
I mean, I would have counted worse so art.
I've encountered people whose reason, the motivation behind doing this is different.
James, so there is a way of having a conversation with somebody where you sort of lead them into a question, and based on their response, if you're just a basically intuitive person, you can sort of lead them into information that they think they're getting, right?
Well, I just quickly, just quickly, Raw, if you don't mind, as a cold reading thing, it's interesting when people just generalize, and I think that's very important that people realize that it is a generalization.
Yes, there are some fake people out there, but they're also very genuine ones, as you said.
And the cold reading thing with me, as they said over the years, what do you say to people who bring information through about spirits or information that the person you're reading has no awareness or consciousness about that person that's coming through?
For instance, I was sort of reading for someone and this man named Michael came through and talked about Ruth and talked about a lawnmower and talked about his death and so forth.
This woman had no idea about these details, but someone actually wrote everything down.
So it was not in her consciousness.
It wasn't even in her awareness.
She went home.
It was her neighbor down the street whose son named Michael died.
He used to fix the lawnmowers and all these details applied to that woman.
So it was not even within that lady's consciousness.
Yes, and part of the reason, as I said earlier, that man came from New York who came to that book signing also was because he didn't know certain things that his brother came through with.
When Holman asked his mother, and it was so funny because he didn't remember about the wheel that fell off in that boat trailer, she did.
And she had several many other things that she knew that he didn't even realize.
So if you're doing cold reading, that would not apply.
They have to have the realization that their conception of heaven and hell is not linear.
It is not, as I say, black and white.
It isn't, okay, here's a place over there, the third floor.
We go, say, yeah, we go here in the first floor.
It isn't that way at all.
It is what you create.
It is what you bring with you, how you lived your life in this earth.
Everything is energy, first of all.
Every thought is real.
Thoughts are real things.
It's energy.
You can't see the thoughts floating in space, just like you can't see radio waves or television waves or cellular waves or microwaves, but they exist on another level.
So what you're doing in your lifetime is you're creating, if you will, an atmosphere around you.
There are many dimensions.
We're in a three-dimensional world.
And what happens is, once your spirit leaves a physical body, you will go to where you are attracted to.
Like attracts like.
There's an affinity property.
And you will go to that, if you will, that energy level, which you have created, which you are naturally going to based upon your thoughts, your words, your deeds.
Because just like on this earth, how long does it take someone to forgive themselves about something?
For some, they forgive themselves right away.
For others, it's a long process.
Our prayer is that when we pray for someone, it helps them because those thoughts of love, they, the Spirit, will receive those thoughts of love and it will help them to, if you will, open themselves up to another way of thinking.
But you know, Art, it's interesting because just like on this earth, there are those who live in ignorance, who live in hate, who live in hell here, and there are others that don't.
And they've proven it with control groups scientifically.
It works.
Nobody knows how.
Now, I asked Dean Raden last night, Dean, if we had two groups, one very religious with a great deal of faith praying to God for somebody's return to health.
And we had a second control group of atheists, complete atheists, but people who went into deep, contemplative, concentrating states and projected, you know, white light or projected whatever they wanted to project to heal a person.
What difference would you expect?
A totally honest answer.
And he said, well, I might expect that the atheists would do just as well or better.
Except I think those who have more of an awareness or consciousness with their prayers or with their thoughts, the quality of the healing would be better and perhaps faster.
That's what I would say.
It's the content of the thought.
You see, every single person, like I said, and I can't get away from this, but it's true, everything is energy.
And our thoughts, we're constantly creating.
My belief system is that every single individual is made of that God spark, the creative spark, and that we are constantly creating, creating with our thoughts.
And we are really responsible for what we create in our lives.
And we can choose how we want to create with that thought.
Well, here was The other part of the Dean Raden business on September 11th, there's been this ongoing experiment where they have scattered around the world these what they call eggs and their random number generating computers.
And they look for non-randomness.
They look at world events, things of great magnitude that have happened, and they look for these things to affect the random number generators so they become somewhat less random.
And they can actually measure that.
These eggs scattered throughout North America and elsewhere in the world report back to a computer in Princeton, New Jersey, at Princeton.
And they noticed this incredible spike up out of the noise.
All of a sudden, this non-randomness is a chart.
And you can see this giant spike on September 11th.
And guess what?
It began four hours before the event, spiked during the event, and for a number of hours after the event.
But it was astounding.
I mean, just right up off the chart, the global consciousness reacting.
But they began to react, James, before the actual event.
Because we're not limited to this physical body, this physical dimension.
We are more than just this physical body.
I also have to throw at you this, which I'm sure you've heard this many times, that we are, there are several bodies to mankind.
There are several bodies to man.
We are just aware of the three-dimensional vision.
But we have several bodies at once existing on other levels, even though we're not aware from the physical point of view.
So I would say to you that, yes, indeed, they are aware of these things happening way beforehand, because you have to remember, outside the three dimensions, time is very different.
There's no such thing as time in those dimensions.
It's more like an event or experiences.
I remember a year ago in November, and I mentioned this story, it's very important for me, a year ago, just a year ago, I was very depressed for two weeks straight.
I was very depressed, and I don't get that way.
And as I was feeling this, I was saying, why am I this way?
And I immediately felt there was going to be a war.
And I felt the sorrow and the sadness of a lot of human loss of life.
And I knew what would happen after Bush got into the White House.
I knew it was going to happen.
Not because of Bush, but that was my timeframe.
And I knew there would be an archore, a lot of smoke and fire and glass.
I didn't know exactly where.
I knew in the East Coast, but I didn't know what city it was.
I thought it might be New York because my family's from New York.
Actually, I said it in lectures, but I didn't know what it meant.
I knew there would be a war.
I didn't know it would be an explosion.
I didn't know it would be planes involved.
I just had that feeling.
Which tells me, though, that the spirit world or those dimensions were very, very prepared and well aware that this event would happen over a year ago and preparing for it.
Well, it certainly does say something probably about time, about the very nature of time itself, that there could be this anticipatory reaction, then the event itself and the aftermath, the event and the aftermath you can understand, but not the anticipation.
They see us in a very different way, as they see the world in a different way.
It seems to me that when they leave the limitations of this three-dimensional world, there is an opening, an awareness, if you will, of the consciousness, a larger expansion of consciousness, where they see the soul, not just in this lifetime, but many lifetimes, as one.
And they see the limitations they place on themselves.
They see the lessons that they've come back on this earth to learn.
They see the gifts that that soul has, their strengths, their weaknesses.
And I can't tell you nine times out of ten, they come back in their readings and communication and they say, oh, gosh, if only I knew now what I, you know, know then, or no now, if only I loved more, if only I used that element of love, I could have brought so much more powerful things into my life, in my life, and everyone's I touched.
I love people who think it's funny when I do these lectures and people say, well, you know, this is it.
We are dead and that's it.
We're the only ones that live.
We're the only ones that are around.
I say, wait, that's a little bit ignorant because you cannot possibly think that we're the only life form there possibly is and this is the only expression of life.
I do believe that I have been told and I have experienced it myself other dimensions, other forms of life, those who live in other places outside of our galaxy.
I would believe now the thing is though, Art, you have to understand that I think their form of communication is much more advanced in some ways than ours or even off the board compared to what we can measure here.
I have had experiences when I was in Sedona, Arizona once where we went out looking for UFOs and we did see many of them and at least they were lots of different colors in that sky and they were all seemed to be in some kind of systematic form.
And I felt an energy all around me, different energies.
And I started tuning myself to that energy.
And I was told that these beings were from the Pleiades, these particular beings, and they said, you know, we don't understand the human beings.
You have an element around you called love, yet you don't use it.
Well, my understanding, and of course I'm limited with this knowledge, but from what I've been told and what I've researched, that there seems to be some kind of mineral deposits in certain places on the Earth that seems to work with these, I don't know, the instruments that they're using or they need these minerals, and they seem to be concentrated in these areas.
And that's what I've been told.
And I mean, that's what I've, from my experience and my research, I have found that there seems to be much more phenomena around heavy ore mineral deposits in certain places on the earth.
I think that, and I write this in my book, I think that every single one of us is born with that sixth sense, our instinct.
We have five senses, but yet no, we have one more than sixth sense.
So we are all born with this sense of knowingness.
Now, there are those just like who are born who can, everyone is able to play the piano.
Every single one of us can play the piano.
But there are those that are born with a little bit more skill and they become concert penists.
So I do believe there are those who are born with a little bit more sensitivity, that once that ability is recognized, that then they can develop that sensitivity, they can do higher forms using higher forms of work with mediumship.
Well, then, we might extend this a little bit and say that people who just appear to have terribly bad luck, they make bad, inevitably bad decisions.
They go into debt.
They get in trouble in their personal lives, their business lives.
They're just a mess.
They probably end up on the street.
Wouldn't you think it would be generally true that these people would have inherently less psychic ability and probably never tried to develop it at all?
And so they've just gone off in all the wrong directions?
I would also say to that there could be those individuals who are sensitive and are intuitive, but did not listen to it whatsoever, were not raised and conditioned to believe in that sort of thing.
They were believed with their mind and that the rationalization.
Their paradigm does not allow them to listen to that inner voice.
Yes, I think that the consciousness of this planet, I do believe, especially United States, I think, is starting to open themselves up to the realm of possibility that we all are intuitive.
know, eventually we're all going back where we started from, I think.
My guest is James Von Frag, and his new book is Heaven and Earth, Making the Psychic Connection.
Let me read a little bit from the back of the book.
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There is indeed life beyond this physical world.
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These spirits serve the human population in many ways as teachers, companions, creative inspiration, and protection.
It takes courage to look beyond our three-dimensional world and know that something greater exists.
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And we'll get back to James in a moment.
Once again, James Von Prague.
Welcome back, James.
Thanks, Art.
I did.
I took a picture, a webcam picture with myself holding your book.
And I've had for over, gosh, 20-odd years I've been doing this work.
People have come up to me and asked me how they themselves can do what I do and how they get more involved with their own intuition.
And they have these gut feelings, and how can they recognize them, and how can they develop them?
So I wanted to write a book to help these people to do it themselves, because, you know, I'm not the only one that can do this, and I think it's only an important or responsible thing to do, is to share this ability with other people so they themselves can empower their own lives.
I mean, there must be, on a personal level, if you see somebody and their aura is brown tending toward black or, you know, obviously something horrible is going to happen to them.
Well, I will usually know right away when I see them or feel them also what's going on there.
Sure.
It depends on the situation that I'm with them, if it's a lecture or if it's a one-on-one meeting.
If it's a one-on-one meeting, I will know right when I meet the person, I see them physically, something's going on with them.
It depends on the severity of what's going on.
For instance, if there are holes or leaks in their aura, because our aura, the electric magnetic field around every single person, really represents exactly what's going on with the person, spiritual level, emotional level, physical level, mental level.
And if one of those are very unbalanced, you can see it.
I mean, it'll finally materialize in the physical.
What you do is you get this person, number one, to be centered.
Most of these people who are unbalanced have no sense of being centered or grounded to this earth.
And when you're not properly centered or grounded in your own being, you can let other influences around you and come through to you and be a part of your aura, attach themselves to you.
Because like I said earlier, everything is energy.
Everything is thought.
And there are those beings out there who attach themselves to people, if you will.
Well, as you walk down the street and as you observe people in mass, at lectures, or whatever, how many of those people generally, percentage-wise, have bright, happy little auras versus those who are obviously troubled in some way?
You know, it runs a gamut, depending on the development of that person, their awareness.
I have seen, oh gosh, I have seen, and mostly in spiritual groups, believe it or not, in many churches when I've been there, I've seen some wonderful energetic people, beautiful colored auras.
Their energy is very strong and solid.
The aura itself, the shape of the aura is well oval, if you will.
There aren't many tears, many leaks.
But I've also run into that, too, in groups where I've seen people like that.
The majority of people out there seem to be living other people's lives.
Sure, sure, because it builds a strong sense of self, a strong sense of love of self, of self-worth.
And when you have a self-worth and self-love, that is where you get your strength from.
That's where you get your energy from.
And that's where you get really your protection from, because you protect that space around you.
But when you're open to outside influences, when you have no sense of yourself, if you will, then you're totally opening up yourself.
I once saw this on your show, and I had a lot of mail from it, positive mail, where, you know, people have talked about, oh, he's got himself when he drinks, or she's got herself when she drinks.
You bet she's not, because she's opening up with all that alcohol.
It's lowering the vibration of that person.
And when you lower that vibration of that prana, that life force, you open Yourself up to those lower-leveled, unevolved entities.
And that comes with the development of one's own intuitive responsibility for their self, their spiritual self.
And it's an easy thing.
What I do every morning when I wake up, when I take my shower in the morning, I cleanse my body, but I also close my eyes and I envision a beautiful, if you call it, the divine light, the God light, the Christ light, whatever you want, whatever anyone wants to call it.
That source of all, that unconditional love, entering the body to the top of the head, cleansing every single negative thought, imbalance, impurity, other people's energy out of the body, out of every muscle, cell, organ, and all around the space, and illuminate it and send it right down the drain.
And like if you envision a flashlight, you can envision a flashlight shining upon you and sucking away, as the light shines you, any debris which is not yours at the other end.
And just going from the top of the head all the way down to the front of the body, inside the body, and the back of the body.
So now they're worried about where they're going to go.
Let's stop that and start doing something about it right now.
And how they can do something?
Be conscious and be aware of their thoughts, of their feelings for other people, what they say to other people, and take responsibility for how you treat one another and how you think of one another.
That's the first step.
Let's say the average, I'm talking an average person.
Remember, this is our schoolroom.
This is the place where we learn experiences, we have lessons, we go through situations for soul growth.
Well, what happens at the time of death, and this is based upon many years of experience, thousands of readings and so forth, is there seems to be a natural transition of the spirit leaving the physical body, and you will see loved ones who have passed over.
They'll either come by you there to bring you over, or they will meet you there in a hospital setting, depending on how you pass over, what the type of death it is.
If it's more of a very debilitating type of death, like cancer or age, something like that, you will end up in a place, you will find yourself perhaps waking up in some sort of a hospital-type setting to really gain back your prana, your energy, which you've depleted with that illness, because the spirit body has also depleted a bit from that.
So what happens is you gain your strength.
After you adjust, I would say, and again, time periods are different.
Let's say it could be two or three days of earth time.
When you have a proper sense that you've left the physical and that you're in the spiritual, you will look around you.
And the first place you go to is called the astral world.
It's an exact replica of the physical world.
You have trees and gardens and everything's very solid.
You have skies.
You can have houses there.
Everything of the physical that you recognize per se.
At which point you will see loved ones or you'll see teachers, people that you recognize.
It's usually people that you have had a loving relationship with the earth, the most loving relationships you've had.
Okay, they will appear to you as you will remember them because that's how you can recognize them.
So they will project that image to you so you recognize them.
But at the same time, we find that when people pass over, let's say the age 70, 80, 90, up in years, when they get to their side, they have the ability to go back to the prime of their life, the time that they liked the most about themselves.
They loved the most.
They had the strength that they had, that they enjoyed.
What happens is after you've adapted over there to your new sense of where you are, there is what's called a life review, which as Danny and Brinkley talks about this as well.
And then you'll have to either rejoice because you did a very good thing with them and had a wonderful, you created a wonderful moment, or you have to forgive yourself for sending out horrible thoughts and horrible feelings.
And one of the hardest things for us to do, even on this earth, is to forgive ourselves.
So you can imagine if it's intensified in the spirit world, how you feel.
Now that could be heaven or that could be hell, depending on what you created.
So therefore, what is the difference in the nature of what occurs between those who are older and die a nice natural death and bed or whatever at an old age and those who die at a very, very young age?
And that's what it's about, is bringing back balance.
That's what it is.
So in another lifetime, you have to do something through that brings back the balance.
We also come back in soul groups, our families, our friends.
We all decide to come back together to learn because there's not only karma for the individual, there's karma for the group, there's karma for the country, there's karma for this world.
As we talked about before, meditation, number one, strongest way is to, again, re-energize yourself and your power and re-energize that power within yourself and around yourself.
And become aware of the space around you.
Become familiar with it.
Have a relationship with what's going on around you.
There are many techniques I do, and one of the ones I also do is when I scan the aura, and I start from the top of the head down to the midsection, the bottom, and then I go to either side, the back.
And again, it's really having a relationship with your space and knowing yourself.
And you can tell when there's something foreign there, when there's something that does not feel right.
And many times you'll get a visual of it.
I've seen things where it's been, now this might sound weird.
I'm sure you might have heard lizard people or snake people.
And there are those energies who attach themselves to your source of life because for whatever reason they want to re-experience things on this physical level.
I wonder, James, and I wonder if you wonder, how many people in mental institutions across America actually are simply really inhabited and controlled by dark forces rather than have what we would consider classic mental illness?
I really also would not be surprised because, you know, many years past, they put mediums in these types of places thinking they were totally schizophrenic.
Yet they were just really sensitive people who were intuitive.
Is a sensitive person who has not developed their talent more vulnerable to darker forces than the average person walking around oblivious to these sorts of things?
Again, with the other side being so different and no time reference, still, I guess we want to know.
You mentioned, you began to tell us that there was a sort of a lower or a beginning level where if you died of a protracted illness, you might actually wake up in a hospital.
If you have a heart attack sitting in a chair, you might wake up or just be aware that you're standing up looking over your body and saying, what's going on there?
And then you might have someone come to greet you who you know who passed over, a parent or teacher, a friend or whatever, and say, hi, what are you doing here?
And they'll say, you're dead.
What do you mean I'm dead?
I feel wonderful.
I feel fine.
I never felt so bitter in my life.
Yes, but you're dead.
You've left your physical body.
And they have a hard time adjusting to that reality.
So many times they're forced to go back to their funerals to really see that they've died because they're unaware.
You know, it's something because this is so interesting, because, again, of the time reference and because the perceptions of things and because we're forced into a situation, many times plane crashes, or even if a bomb went off, people would find that once they would see themselves in the exact same position that they were in because that is the last memory that they have.
The last memory that's registered is exactly as they were.
So if a bomb goes off right now, you and I are going to be sitting here talking on the phone because that's what we remember.
Until somebody could walk in the room and say, no, you've passed over.
I had a retired, not retired, I'm sorry, an active New York police sergeant on the air who did a program with me just after 911.
He went to ground Zero, James, and he took photographs.
And I want to be sensitive about this, but I want to tell the truth.
What came out in the photographs, and we had them on the website, were thousands of orbs, thousands of orbs in that area, in picture after picture after picture that he took.
Now, that brings up obvious questions about where thousands of people would have died quickly, unexpectedly, in something like this terror attack.
Would those orbs, in your opinion, represent the souls of the people who died there or a remnant of some sort of remnant that was close by and hangs around?
Another one I saw, which a friend of mine sent me, was this boy, I guess it was a boy, who was in a car accident, and this was taken by a policeman within about 10 minutes after this accident.
And when that was developed, you see the shape of the boy, and you see the shape of a dog, a little dog, and the mother said that his puppy died years before him, that he loved this puppy, and that shape was that of the puppy.
Because, as I said earlier in the show, we are existing on several levels at once.
So what is not to say that right now we're not existing in China, we're not existing in Russia, in South America, and that part of our soul is actually experiencing life right now as we're speaking in a different place, on a different level, maybe.
So that personality, which we recognize right here, that you and I know, when that passes out of the physical body, it seems to be that personality which I'm able to still contact.
I'm not saying that's not a part of the greater whole because I think it is.
So I think that that personality, if you will, grows into that soul or blends back into that soul head, that soul center.
And they see us not as solid figures because you have to remember that the level of vibration that they are on now is a much faster rate of vibration than we are on the physical world.
The physical world, the molecules vibrate or move very, very slowly.
It's a very dense, heavy place here.
The spiritual dimensions seem to be much faster, much quicker.
I think those beings who are enlightened in some way, and those who used to work in government on this earth, I think they still come back and they're around the governments, around on this earth, to help inspire them.
I do believe they do that.
I do believe part of their mission is to come back and help to inspire.
I heard Kennedy is involved with that as well, and many other great, you know, I think great politicians and people, humanitarians, if you will.
I don't know if I can get you to say anything about this because it's, I guess, in production, but the Ted Danson thing, when you are on the set and you're watching their screen version of you unfold, are there times when you're saying, yeah, dead on?
And then are there other times when you're cringing and you're going, oh my God, who wrote that?
I walked into one scene where they had me as a little boy, a six-year-old, seven-year-old boy, praying, which I used to do as a child.
And I could not believe how true it was.
The wallpaper of the room, and they didn't even ask me about this, but there were things that happened where it was exactly the replica of my childhood.
They even went down to the names of people in my childhood that they had to do research.
They couldn't even find it for the research.
I mean, they got some incredible things.
Then there were the other times where they took that dramatic license, and boy, it was pretty dramatic.
It's going to be a very big show for CBS.
It's a miniseries probably in February.
CBS said it's the best miniseries they've ever made.
When I think back on all the crap I learned in high school It's a wonder I can't think at all And my lack of education hasn't hurt me none I can read the writing on the wall.
And I wonder, is it your view that the public, the American public or the world's public, sorts it out pretty well for themselves?
In other words, they seem to recognize and know instinctively somehow or another the real McCoy and that they're able to really separate the wheat from the chaff.
And then I think those who are embedded with fear and really ignorance, if you will.
And I think those are the ones who kind of think, oh, they just shut it off to, oh, it's something else.
It's something fake.
And also there's another segment of the population who's so embedded in their paradigm, their way of thinking, that they want no one threatening that way of thinking.
Their sense of reality is their sense of reality, and they're not going to budge.
So for them, it's hard to believe this.
But I think, you know, it's a really interesting art.
The majority of people out there do recognize truth.
They recognize who's genuine and who's not.
I think they have a pretty good Gaia counter for that sort of thing.
And yeah, I mean, I really do.
I think, you know, you see, you think you recognize truth, then You can recognize when people are coming from an honest point of view.
I tell people I don't care if they believe this or not.
No, I really don't care.
They take it.
They don't take it.
It doesn't matter to me.
I do what I do.
I think it would be a sin to be given a gift like this or this ability and not use it.
Well, you know, you are obviously famous and well known for the readings, the incredible readings that you give of being able to talk to people on the other side.
Now, when you come on a show like mine, and I don't allow you to do readings.
I mean, I did the John Rivers show today, and I mean, every five seconds there was a reading, but the thing which is awful about that is I was just tuning into that person, and there isn't a button you can push, and I was just getting information, and they had a change, the commercial break, and that's not fair to the person calling in or myself.
So I prefer shows also where I can just speak to people, and they can ask questions they've always wanted to ask, and it's not personal in nature because everyone can be helped if it's a general question.
I haven't had one spirit come back and say, gee, I missed that body.
I wish I could come back.
It just did the opposite.
So, again, the mindset of cremation, and it's so funny because spirit will say, you know, why do you go to my grave in that cemetery and stare at the ground?
And it seems that there's a very quick, if you will, burning of the magnetic ties, a sort of attachment to the earth.
If there is any such thing as an attachment that they might have, it will help that soul to adapt quicker to the new way of life and the new way of thinking.
You mentioned earlier that spirits can rip or attach themselves to the aura.
I wonder if you ever came across a situation like this.
Let's say someone's fairly just coming into life in their 20s.
Right.
And it really isn't alcohol.
Possibly it could be alcohol or drugs or maybe not.
And all of a sudden, let's say they have the job and they're planning to get married.
And all of a sudden, there's this hit or this attack from something so foreign and alien that the thoughts in their minds aren't even theirs anymore.
And they're thrown into this where they realize that from this moment on that their lives are going to be different.
It's just going to be, how can I put this, that something has entered into them.
They can still function, but the marriage, the job, their whole life now is basically moment by moment lived knowing that there's another presence inside them and everything that they've cherished is basically stolen away from them.
Do you think, is this ever resolved on this plane of existence?
Because you mentioned the cleansing of the aura.
When all of that fails and you realize that you're basically living a life that's really not your own, from that point of attack, your life has now become going onto a different track that you have no control over.
No, I think that I don't think it will last forever.
I think it depends on the individual and how willing they are to change things, to get to know themselves, get back into their own space.
It's hard to say.
I mean, so many people go around this world as prisoners to their world and prisoners to the people in their world.
So many of us do.
Again, I think it comes back to really going back within oneself, empowering oneself, learning how to get back to who you are, whether that's through meditation, whether it's through exercises, techniques, of self-empowerment.
There are ways of getting back.
Does it last forever, it's hard to say.
Some last for several years, some could last a lifetime in each individual situation.
I had one person call on the show and say, you know, I used to see these things flitting about sort of in the corner of my eye, just movement in a room where I knew there was nobody.
Movement, movement.
And then I started getting thousands and thousands of emails from people saying, I see the same thing, only guess what?
Recently, I've begun to see these, whatever they are, human-looking creatures, but indeed creatures, just shadows, not full physical presences of anything, but kind of what they call shadow people.
Number two, there is something known as the astral shell, which is when someone first passes over, there's that astral world they go to, which I spoke about earlier.
And you have a very physical body, if you will, it's an astral body, a very solid body.
Then there is what is known as a second death, where you move out of the astral into a higher level of existence.
But that shell, that astral shell, which is the exact replica of the physical, still remains in that astral world.
And I could, honestly, I have been told, and I've seen it myself, that some of these astral shells indeed are around the Earth.
Corner of the eye, they'll come at times when you're sleeping, when you least suspect it, because when you're or you're focused, reading a book, watching a movie, when your consciousness, your awareness is focused on one thing, your awareness is open another level.
And you'll be more aware of those things around you.
Go within, close your eyes, start a light meditation, and just try to adapt yourself to the energy that's around you and tune into that energy.
You know, every one of us, when we walk into a room, we feel something.
We meet someone, we feel something.
It's exactly the same thing.
In the book, I talk all about that, how you become aware of those energies around you, how you see them, how you feel them, how you hear them.
You must practice with it because it isn't something you're used to doing.
Your brain isn't used to conditioned that way on an everyday basis.
But if you become aware of it and you learn to use it, then you'll be able to sense those energies exactly where they're coming from, what their origin is, and what they want from you.
Many times there are spirits who are walking around, not even where they're dead.
And I've done spirit rescues where I've had to sell spirits.
They've passed over, go towards the light, ask for someone who's passed over.
You know, you send them this thought.
And I've done many rescues that way.
And they were a lot of the shadows that I've seen around, those sorts of beings.
I had a young mother send me a photograph that I put on the website and everybody saw it of her son, her young son, lying in bed with this shadow being on top of her son with hands reaching up to choke him.
Oh, my God.
This was one troubled young man, and it was one troubled story.
I had her on the air.
She talked about it on the air and supplied the photograph.
Now, I realize that I do this kind of program, and so I want to draw these sorts of people that have experienced this kind of thing.
But I'm telling you right now, James, I have never seen such a response in my life.
And my opinion would be that things are in the middle of a change, that some sort of veil is beginning to thin out a little bit, and people are just seeing more of the other side than they ever have before, whatever it is.
Art, you're so, gosh, I can't tell you how aware and smart you are, smart art, because you're right on.
You're running with a beat of everything because right now...
You are pretty smart.
You're pretty cute.
Because right now, I believe that there's a change in the vibration of this planet.
I think we're spinning faster and faster and faster.
And I think that we're getting very, very close to moving into, if you want to call it, other dimensions, or the veil is indeed getting thinner.
Things being sped up, sped up, sped up.
I was thinking today, the concept of October and April and months, months seem very differently to me than it did when I was a child.
And of course that comes naturally with age, but it seems a whole concept of time and things of changing.
Even now more with this 9-11, it seems that things are speeding up even more.
I think, and I've heard this before, that there are two planets of Earth.
There's a replica of the Earth, and there's the Earth we're living in now.
This Earth is moving into a fourth dimension, and those who do not want to ascend and move up to that other dimension will be stuck in the other replica of the Earth, which is that third dimension.
That is what I've heard, and I tell you, I think you are exactly right.
I think we're speeding up more and more, and because we're speeding up to a faster vibration, more people are going to be aware of other beings around.
That is one of the major conclusions that I think I've come to in my life that things are speeding up.
Not a book plug.
I wrote The Quickening because I so profoundly felt in every aspect of human life, socially, politically, environmentally, you name the area, everything is speeding up.
But I think that maybe this really could be one of the most compassionate ways, and that we're not aware of it.
That going through what we appear, what appears to be suffering on a physical level can be something which is one of the most compassionate ways for that soul to grow and to teach one another.
It was basically the ACT team which cloned a human.
They actually created a human embryo using the same technique roughly that they used on Dolly the Sheep, scraped out the DNA from a human egg cell, then injected it with the nucleus from a human skin cell, and then finally kick-started the egg with electricity, and it lived.
Well, we are certainly about to enter the realm of real creation and the ability to modify genetic structure to come up with a being of our creation, of our choice.
You know, many times people say, well, why can't if you do what you do, it's psychic phenomena and so forth, well, science would be able to measure it.
I'm saying, well, wait a minute.
Science might not have the tools to measure it because they're not evolved enough to that energetic system.
I don't know if science has reached the form yet.
Even though they're cloning things.
I I don't think I think God is much grander and larger in scale than what we think.
Who's to say that there won't be those souls who come back to be part of this, be a part of this?
I think that, you know, you can duplicate the physical body, but I don't think you can duplicate the spirit.
So I think there is another spirit that would come into that body, knowing the ramifications, knowing that perhaps that the health of that clone might not be as strong as it would be with irregular reproduction.
It's just that, sir, whether it's you or James or whoever it might be, Daniel, it's that a person who is not used to this is really made extremely uncomfortable by it.
It's kind of like being in the presence of Superman who can look through your clothes and, you know, all whatever.
In other words, you almost feel as though your privacy is being violated.
That's pretty close.
That's pretty close.
And that's a very uncomfortable feeling.
And so I'm sure a lot of people who have been around you, James, feel about that way.
I used to work with the police, and I used to go after people who would do kidnappings with children, and it was pretty scary stuff I would see and hold.
And I'd pick up things left and right.
And part of the miniseries, there's a scene in there, the second half of the miniseries based upon that story about the suicide and the murder.
And I see these things.
Like when I'm doing reading, I'll see the murder or I'll see the suicide very clearly.
I mean, there's so many times I'll say, I'm tasting gunmetal in my mouth, so this had to be a suicide.
When I just did this work, and because I'm So empathetic and sensitive.
When I first started, I was just like that.
I had to learn how to shut that part off the fuel wheel or put it to the side and look at the true message and the objective.
And when you realize that they're much better off right now, they're in a better place, they're freer, they're happier, they're joyful, that that situation they were going through with the death, or it's a murder or a suicide, or I mean, I've seen it all art, I have seen it all hacking bodies, I mean, I've seen it all.
You realize that's just the way that the spirit leaves the body.
So in James' private life, there are times when you turn off the psychic switch and you sit down and watch a good movie or do whatever else you like to do in life that is a diversion from what you do.
It's a very good question, and the answer is yes or no.
And what I'll say to you is this.
It is like us in a room when the telephone is ringing and ringing and ringing, and we want to just leave the room because there are other things to do.
That darn phone keeps on ringing, and we have to answer it.
The spirit people, number one, they are living in a world where it's very busy.
They're not just hanging around on clouds.
They have things to do.
They have missions to do.
They're living their greater life.
They are very aware of our thoughts.
That's why you do not need a medium to communicate in a certain way because you can do it with your thoughts.
They hear you.
They're living in a very mental world and they hear your thoughts.
Because they feel your love and they want to help you, but at the same time, they feel your sadness as well.
And that doesn't make them feel any better.
The best thing you can do to them is send them love.
And you can send them thoughts, and they realize that you're sending them loving thoughts.
But remember, you'll see them again one day, and you don't have to keep on bombarding them because they know and they're aware that you, you know, because thought works very differently.
Energy works differently over there.
They receive your thought in a split second.
So you don't have to keep on thinking about them over and over and over again.
So then if somebody dies whose life while they were alive was devoted to hating your guts and going after you in every way they can, should your expectation be that you might face a little trouble after they're gone?
I'll see you, Darlene, in the next couple of weeks.
I'll be up there.
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I will.
Thank you.
I wondered if you could explain a little bit about the differences between what you do, which is positive mediumship, and the types of negative mediumship where people allow themselves to be taken over or used.
You know, they get out of the way so an entity can actually, I mean, it's hard to say this because I know some wonderful physical mediums who do trance work.
You know, like attracts like.
And if you're working from a high vibration of energy and a loving energy, you will attract that.
I personally have gone into trance, but I do not like it.
And the reason I don't like it is because I'm a control freak.
I like to be in control.
I'm on the physical earth.
I want to stay on the earth.
There's no reason for me to walk out of the earth this time.
I'm really leery of those who do trance.
I'm sorry to say I am very leery, and I must, when someone goes into trance, I must hear what that message, the nuances of that message are, in order to know if that person is real or if they're ego getting through and doing that.
Because it seems so much of that word's ego.
But I also must say to you, there is some overshadowing of spirit where there could be.
You have to listen to the truth of that message, what it sounds like.
As far as evil trans work, I really don't know what you mean by evil per se when they go to trance.
That CBS mini series will be out in February called Talking to Heaven.
And my own TV show, which you're going to be a guest on one day, Art, will be called Beyond, and that's going to be on in September, and it's a daily talk show.