Art Bell’s Open Lines features Linda Moulton Howe linking Cuba’s 2,200-foot-deep "lost city" sonar findings—by ADC’s Paulina Zelitsky—to Atlantis theories, despite National Geographic’s cautious silence. Callers claim time travel (Vatican priest from 2030), alternate timelines (Dee’s nuclear submarine power offer), and global surveillance via brain implants, while others predict pole shifts, nuclear fallout, and societal collapses by 2095. A caller’s possession memories—like Mandela’s death—hint at timeline fractures, urging listeners to document daily events for verification. The episode blurs science, prophecy, and conspiracy, leaving Atlantis’ fate and reality’s instability as unsettling open questions. [Automatically generated summary]
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Now, one other item before we turn to something really important.
We're going to have open lines tonight.
And by the way, I don't know what we're going to do.
Maybe a time traveler line, maybe a possessed person line.
Maybe both.
I haven't made up my mind yet, but Friday night, Saturday morning, it's going to be open lines.
With one exception, and that comes right now.
I really want you to listen very closely to my words.
The story is Lost City off Western Cuba.
And you've got to grasp the implications of this.
Most intriguingly, researchers using sonar equipment have discovered at a depth of about 2,200 feet, we'll talk about the importance of that.
It's almost a half a mile down.
I've been reading this to you for three days.
They've discovered a huge land plateau with clear images of what appears to be urban development, partly covered by sand from above.
The shapes, they say, resemble pyramids, roads, and buildings.
ADC, the company, is excited but reluctant to speculate until a joint investigation with the Cuban Academy of Sciences and the U.S. National Geographic Society takes place early this summer.
It is, according to Ms. Zelitsky of ADC, quote, it is stunning.
What we see in our high-resolution sonar images are limitless rolling white sand plains, and right in the middle of this beautiful white sand, there are clear, man-made, large-size architectural designs.
It looks like when you fly over an urban development in a plane, and you see highways, tunnels, and buildings.
We don't know what it is, and we don't have the videotaped evidence of this yet, but we do not believe that nature is capable of producing planned symmetrical architecture unless it's a miracle.
She added that from an interview done at her office at Tarawa along the eastern coast of Havana.
Now, I saw this story and I went, oh my God, it was Reuters.
And then I had Keith go and look for the story.
I said, Keith, go see if this is a real Reuters story for me, would you please?
And he did.
And we've got it up there.
Let's see, where is it?
It was up there.
Oh, gee, where has it gone?
Let me hold down a little bit, see if it's still there.
Keith, if you're listening, please put it back up there under what's new because of the significant real importance of this.
Really important.
Do you understand, if you don't understand what this means?
Well, I guess the first job was to verify it was a real story.
And that hadn't been so easy.
So I've called upon my environmental reporter, my science reporter, really.
She's done work in so many areas, in environmental documentaries.
She's done just work in every area of science you can imagine for us.
And I would never have the time to do the kind of follow-up she does.
It's the only way you can get to the truth.
Linda Moulton Howe.
And so she began looking into this story herself.
And in a moment, she'll be here to tell you what she went through and what we found.
Believe me, I tell you, sit right where you are.
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Don't move a muscle.
Now, we take you back to the past on Art Bell Somewhere in Time.
Well, and also, for close listeners, I'm the reporter and editor of EarthFiles.com, and what I'm going to be playing and talking about is at my website under Science.
And this is, I think, who knows, Art, how big this story may ultimately be.
But what started on this underwater city reported off Western Cuba, you and I were talking about Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, and today is Friday.
Yeah, and my first phone call was to try to get in touch with Paulina Zelitsky, since she's the engineer who was quoted in the Reuters story and found out that there was no way to get any kind of information in Puerto Rico.
So the next thing was getting in touch with National Geographic.
And for a while, no one there knew anything about this until finally a man in their science department called me with a woman, a reference.
Her name is Barbara Moffat.
She's Director of Plans and Programs in the Communications Office for the National Geographic Society in Washington, D.C. She knew nothing either much.
And she said, though, that she had a copy of the Reuters story and that she would do some checking with her superiors to see if in fact she could say anything on the record for radio.
And after waiting for some time, she called me back.
And another thing is, Linda, if she had to go away that many times, you can speculate the conversation in the background was, hey, I put a report on the line on this Cuba thing.
Well, and I actually think that she didn't know much.
And that was what surprised me because she is director of plans and programs.
And so whatever has been happening, it has been happening either at a small number of decision makers or this is truly something that has just come to light at National Geographic because, as you will hear, Pauline Zelitsky is known to National Geographic and apparently has made a proposal for further research.
But here we go after trying to get contact information for Paulina Zielitsky, the Cuban Academy of Sciences, and Advanced Digital Communications from National Geographic Society.
And to confirm this story, the following are the only comments that National Geographic spokeswoman Barbara Moffat would give today.
Please tell me what you know at National Geographic.
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We know really what the Cuban people have told us on the basis of a fairly preliminary survey that they did for another purpose apparently earlier, I believe last year, where they were working in testing some deepwater equipment off of Savannah Bay.
They found some things that they thought were interesting, but it was a very preliminary search.
I don't even know the details of the type of equipment being used, but they agreed that much more specific and different types of equipment would be needed to go back to the site.
So they have made a proposal to us, I believe, that we get involved and help them explore the area.
And it's now just one of many, many proposals we have for such exploration that we're considering at the moment.
So you at the National Geographic are in communication with Paulina Zelitsky.
That's right.
And the proposal that she has made has been as an ocean engineer working with Advanced Digital Communications.
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Yes, uh-huh.
I believe she's made the proposal on behalf of the company that she represents, ADC.
But I just would say again that it is still so early on this project, and frankly, some of the things that Paulina has been quoted as saying are pretty speculative.
We just don't know that anything like that really exists yet.
Well, in the Reuters article, she is quoted, we are the first people ever to see the bottom of Cuban waters over 50 meters, and this is supposed to be down at 2,200 feet.
It is so exciting.
We are discovering the influence of currents on global climate, volcanoes, the history of formation of Caribbean islands, numerous historic wrecks, and even possibly a sunken city built in the pre-classic period and populated by an advanced civilization similar to the early Tihuatacan culture of the Yucatan.
And then she says ADC was using and testing deepwater equipment off Havana Bay, as you just said, when they found what she described as clear.
She says it's very clear.
We are seeing high-resolution center images that are showing white sand and in the middle of the white sand are clear, man-made, large-sized architectural designs.
It looks like when you fly over an urban development in a plane and you see highways, tunnels, and buildings.
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Yeah, I have a copy of a story that's similar to that.
And I know that she's quoted as saying all that.
I think she also says, we don't know what it is, and we don't have the videos they've evidenced yet.
I mean, I think she would agree that it really is very early to even speculate as she has here.
I don't know.
I mean, it would be great if it turned out to be something that exciting.
Obviously, we hope so, too, if we want to get involved.
And Reuters, the interview, also is saying that ADC has been using satellite-integrated ocean bottom positioning systems, high-precision side-scan double-frequency sonar, and remotely operated submarine robots, and that they plan to put two submersibles down there.
And it sounds as if Paulina Zelitsky has been looking at high-resolution sonar images.
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The copy I have says that ADC's equipment includes those things.
I don't know that they've had a chance to use them in this site yet, but I don't know.
Obviously, there's a lot more to find out about this whole project, and that's something we're in the process of trying to do right now.
Well, since Reuter says ADC is excited but reluctant to speculate until a joint investigation with the Cuban Academy of Sciences and the U.S. National Geographic Society takes place early this summer, can you talk about the work that you're doing with the Cuban Academy of Sciences?
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Again, that paragraph assumes that we have a project, and unfortunately, that hasn't been decided yet.
There are many logistical questions that we're still working out, and as I said, it's one of dozens, if not hundreds, of projects that we're considering right now from all over the world.
So it is really very early, even earlier than this story is indicating.
I don't think we have anything official with either group.
But there must be somebody at the National Geographic Society who has even images from this high-resolution sonar that Paulina Zeliski is describing on which to base a decision to do this underwater archaeological work?
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I haven't asked that.
I haven't seen anything like that.
I think it's mostly just been conversations, but I can find out.
Now, this also, this Reuters story says that, quoting from Paulina Zawitzki, our agenda is much broader.
We are very anxious about global environmental changes.
Archaeology is providing us with the means to conduct broader scientific ocean exploration.
That three other foreign companies, one Canadian, one French, and one South African, operate in shallower waters than ADC.
Under contracts with Cuban state partner GMR, all the firms have concessions to explore in different swathes of sea and would share profits with the government.
Can you make any comment about these other international efforts there off the coast of Cuba?
And when do you think a decision will actually be made about National Geographic going forward with the Cuban Academy of Sciences and ADC to look at this underwater sign more closely?
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I don't yet know that either.
I know that we're seriously considering it, though.
An hour later, I found this message on my phone's voicemail.
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Linda, it's Barbara Moffitt at National Geographic calling back.
I don't have anything else for you, I'm afraid.
The principals involved in this project, most of them are not here today, but the ones people I have to talk with in my blog say that the nature of the status of this project and the place we are in this project is still at a very confidential stage.
There's nothing else that we can release.
We don't have images to release.
I don't even think we have any images or any other phone numbers.
This information is confidential right now.
I'm sorry that I can't be more helpful, but I hope that you at least are able to do a little bit with what I have given you.
And I'm keeping your name and number to inform you once that day comes.
Well, that's half a mile down, and it's always recently it's been talked about that when the last ice age was here and the ice had basically sucked up the water and the current sea levels could have been down, they say 300 feet.
Yes, and that we now are back up to where we are now because the water melted.
Now, so this is very low, and there are two trains of thought here that have emerged out of today, both talking with a woman at National Geographic and talking with Edgar Casey's son, Edgar Casey Jr.
In the Reuters interview, the author, Andrew Coshorn, the reporter, he quotes Paulina Zielitsky, the ocean engineer, as saying, quote, we are discovering,
among other things, possibly a sunken city built in the pre-classic period and populated by an advanced civilization similar to the early, and it's in the Webster's, it pronounces it, Teotihuacan, culture of the Yucatan.
Now, when you go to a map, I have put a map, a pretty good one, at earthfiles.com at the top of this story, and it shows how Cuba is basically right below Key West, and if you swing west, and we don't know yet exactly where this is, you are really getting to get out of the Atlantic and out of the Straits of Florida and into the Gulf of Mexico.
And I called Edgar Casey Jr. today, and I was talking to him about this.
He had had no one has called him or talked to him either.
And I said, what did your father basically, can you re-summarize for me?
And he said, well, he thought that after the turn of this century, the 21st century, that some of the remnants of the Atlantis would be discovered.
And I said, where did your father place Atlantis geographically?
And Edgar Casey Jr. said that it was in the South Atlantic.
He said the western edge of it was in the Benini and Bermuda area off the coast of Florida.
Actually, if you look at a geologic map that the coast and geodetic people have for that area, I think for hundreds of thousands of square miles, it's very shallow there.
And the sea level 10,000 years ago and more was probably several hundred feet lower than it is now.
Well, this is the, if you look at the maps today, it could be argued almost that Cuba itself and that area of land may or may not have been part of a continent that went out further into the Atlantic.
That's the part none of us know.
But obviously Cuba has not had these structures on it.
And Casey has said that whatever would be found would be found underwater.
And further, I just learned that last week, for the first time in, I think it was the last time, it was two or three, four years ago, they went back out into the area in Bimini where they have found a shark.
It is absolutely the shape of a shark.
And for people who would like to see this photograph, they're doing more testing.
They're doing more all kinds of analyses on it.
I first did this story with an interview on May 16th, 1999 with Edgar Evans Casey.
And have photographs of this shark in that story at earthfiles.com.
It would be very interesting tonight to go to that May 16th story.
You can go to my headlines page and go down and click on it, and you can see this amazing photograph of this shark that is out in the Bimini area that can only be seen from the air art.
There is no way you can't see it from boats.
You can't see it when you're any place.
You have to see it from the air.
And it's beginning to raise this idea that there may be something huge that was connected between, and you look on the map that I've got, it's not too far from Bibini to get down to this area that is just north of Cuba.
And how big was this complex?
Okay, that is the one direction.
But if you go Teatiwakan, and this was this enigmatic, totally mysterious, the origin, the language, everything about it is a mystery.
And that was the pre-Mayan, perhaps going to the Olmec or between Olmec and Mayan, the so-called acceptable academic date is 400 BC for the flourishing of this culture that built huge pyramids.
And to help people think about the possibility that this underwater, 2,200 feet down, that Paulina Zelitsky is describing, that when you look at this image that I have got on EarthFiles.com, it is of the Pyramid of the Sun.
And this is 33 miles northeast of modern Mexico City.
But this whole culture of Teotihuacan was supposed to be huge and extended.
No one knows how far.
And then, if this is tied to that Yucatan culture that has been so mysterious over so many millennia, how in the world could anybody's city have ended up 2,200 feet down?
If this is Atlantis, Linda, it would make it the story of the way she has described this, one has to conclude that she used the equipment she described, or she could not possibly have been describing the kind of detail we have here.
Well, that's why I asked Barbara Moffitt in National Geographic if she could please check to see if she could get me some of these high-resolution sonar images.
Well, yes, but it seems to me that the high-resolution sonar images must be there for them to make a decision on going forward with more archaeology.
You know, it's so puzzling because when you start going down a half a mile to find something that sounds as detailed as what she's describing, it's kind of hard to get my mind around it since everywhere else in the world the discussion has always been at about 300 feet down.
And they found that new city off of the coast of Turkey at about 300 feet below sea level.
And all of that was supposed to jibe with the end of the last ice age.
But 2,200 feet down, was there some kind of jibe?
Well, look at the asteroid that allegedly came in, but that was 68 million years ago.
Now, in the Casey time, I was refreshing my memory today, and I was surprised to read that he said in his readings that there were three cycles to whatever Atlantis was as a civilization, and that part of it went back at least 200,000 years ago.
This is now according to the Casey readings.
Well, 200,000 is still just a flick of an eye compared to 68 million when that asteroid was supposed to have slammed into the Yucatan area.
So you can't find, or at least I don't know, what would explain land going down that far with a city on it that had pyramids, roads, tunnels, and all of that.
Obviously, in my opinion, they used the equipment described to get the kind of pictures, the renditions, the high-resolution renditions that they claim to have.
So, do we get any more?
Apparently not from National Geographic.
With respect to all the other questions, sorry, it's confidential.
This is a big story.
This is a really, really big story, folks.
So I'm going to stay on it myself.
And maybe it's Atlantis.
Maybe it's Atlantis.
Wouldn't that be the story of the century, or even several?
All right.
Let's see what else is going on.
Open lines coming up.
Still not sure what we're going to do.
I think a possessed person line sounds pretty good.
Are there any possessed people out there?
I know there are.
We heard them the other night, right?
Again, I want you to look at my webcam.
Tell me what it is that you think you're looking at on my webcam.
I changed the focus so I could get a macro focus on it so you could see it clearly.
And you are welcome to take a guess for about an hour.
Then in about an hour, I'll tell you what it is.
I went today, and I'm very proud of this, too.
I had to, I carry a concealed weapon.
You know, here in Nevada, we have a concealed weapon law.
And my wife and I both passed that five years ago.
It's a pretty rigorous thing.
You go through a school, a little school, and then you have to go to the range, the shooting range, and you have to go through FBI fingerprints.
And, oh, gosh, you go through a lot.
Today we went to renew our five-year CCW permits.
And they had a new test.
Who concocted this test?
I don't know.
But there were some unusual questions on it.
Actually, actually, I guess I can't read them.
Can I?
I'm not allowed to do that.
I can't do that.
Maybe they have many tests.
I don't know, but I won't chance it.
There were some unusual questions.
Let me leave it at that.
And then we went to the range and qualified.
And I did all that early morning, so it's been a long day for me.
Anyway, did pretty well at the range.
And I will show you.
I've got a Glock is my favorite, a 40-caliber Glock.
Not too bad.
I brought my target home.
I was pretty proud of it, actually.
You see, five years ago, Ramona whomped my butt.
She's a better shooter than I am.
She has a.38, and she was really good.
And so for five years, five long years, I've been hearing about this, how she womped me.
So now for five years, she is going to have to listen to it.
Nailed you on the written test and really nailed you on the range.
Oh, I tell you, I heard about that for five long years.
Attorney General Janet Reno said that she might be thinking about running for governor of Florida next year.
That would pit her against Governor Jeb Bush.
Wow.
Wouldn't you have thought Janet Reno would think about retirement after all of this?
But no, she wouldn't run for governor of Florida.
That's something.
She did a lot of work in Florida, you know, before she became Attorney General.
Well, there are a number of other things that I want to talk to you about.
The monkey man in India has attacked yet again, and we've got a picture up of the monkey man.
Actually, a link to CNN's composite drawing, more accurately, of the monkey man, and it sure does look chupacabra-like.
At first, they were saying it was some man or marauding bands of men Dressed as monkeys attacking people, but you know, somehow that doesn't make sense.
Not robbing them, attacking them, breaking bones, and hurting them in various ways.
And now I think two or three are dead.
They say it's an animal.
That's what they're saying.
It's an animal of some kind.
They've got bite marks, they've got footprints, and they've got quite a few descriptions now of this whatever in the hell it is.
And we've got a photo, or at least a link to the composite photo.
You take a look and you tell me it's definitely, definitely chupacabra-like.
Check this story out.
It's by Deborah Smith, science writer.
Repairing the hole in the ozone.
Well, the headline is, ozone hole repairs could see life expectancy drop to 30.
In other words, none of us would get any older than 30 years of age.
In other words, I'm already dead.
Repairing the hole in the ozone layer could trigger an environmental catastrophe that would reduce life expectancy to 30 years, says the editor-in-chief of one of the world's leading science magazines, new scientist.
Dr. Alan Anderson, who is in Sydney for National Science Week, predicted that by 2070, rich people could be forced to live in city-sized domes to escape air pollution.
Elsewhere, smog would make asthma the leading killer of all young people, and countries such as Russia would be devastated by famine as poisoned crops failed.
Gosh, the news just gets better and better.
He said the cause would be a hydroxyl holocaust.
Plummeting levels of a molecule in the atmosphere that very few people have ever heard of called a hydroxyl radical, which has a vital role in mopping up pollutants.
Well, I've heard about it.
Hydroxyl levels began to drop as the world produced more smog, but they rose again during the 1980s.
The growing hole in the ozone layer allowed more UV light, which stimulated the production of more hydroxyl.
Dr. Anderson said, if the ozone hole was repaired, hydroxyl levels would be expected to decline dramatically, and the world would joke in smog.
The world would joke in smog.
The prediction was one of three doomsday scenarios discussed at an environmental roadshow presented by the magazine in Sydney last night with the assistance of Australian experts.
So there you are from a very prestigious science magazine.
Now, I have seen movies, and I'm sure you have too, typically set about 2070 in a world where people are choking, and as it points out in here, the rich are living in little environmental bubbles to shield themselves from the dilapidated, smog, poison-infested world that they're now forced to live in.
I've seen it in the movies, but I've never heard it from a publication as prestigious as this.
Can you imagine that as a future?
Everybody having to wear some sort of oxygen mask who's in the outside?
And if you wanted to live normally, you'd have to live in a bubble like the bubble boy.
You think that's in our future?
Wonder what happened to Atlantis anyway.
2,200 feet down, that's almost half a mile down, that's virtually impossible unless it is Atlantis.
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The trip back in time continues with Art Bell hosting Coast to Coast AM.
Back up on the website right now, top of what's new is the lost city off western Cubis.
You can read the story yourself.
But you heard National Geographic confirm it A little earlier.
Oh, that was some conversation.
And if you have to, go back to the archives later and listen again to the way those questions are answered.
bear in mind that at one point there was those time when it was on for thirty minutes while this of a very nice lady consulted with somebody or another in the background and i i certainly don't want to blow any sources for linda but i mean you just you know that in the background it was like We have a reporter on the line.
What do we tell her?
There was sort of hoping the story would fall into a black hole, I think, 2,200 feet deep.
Anyway, we'll stay on it.
You've got about 30 minutes now to guess what it is that I'm holding in my hand on my webcam photo.
About 30 minutes.
Then after that, I'm going to show you my target, show you how I did today.
I'm so proud of that.
From various ranges.
All right, lots to do tonight.
We're going to have a possessed person line and a timeline.
That means time travelers.
In fact, let us define both categories right now.
A possessed person line would mean somebody really possessed.
I mean, if you're going to cause a possessed person, I expect to hear your possessor.
I want to hear the unreal you.
That would be a possessed person.
And a timeline, of course.
My enduring interest in time travel.
In fact, I've got a story here that I'll follow up on for you with regard to time travel.
So many interesting things.
I'm trying to get hold of them right now.
It's Dr. Ronald L. Mellett, a professor of theoretical physics at the University of Connecticut, is working on a device for time travel, along with other scientists at Connecticut.
Connecticut, you, that is, Dr. Mellett, was recently invited to speak at the University of Michigan by astrophysicist Dr. Fred Adams, who's been quoted as saying, see below, Dr. Mellet's resolution or solution to time travel is probably valid.
So I'm going to be talking.
In fact, any of you know Dr. Mallet, please tell him I'm trying to contact him.
I do have a number and I'm going to be pursuing this next week.
Anybody with a time machine or a solution to time travel, I want to talk to.
So Dr. Mallet at the University of Connecticut, I would like to talk to you.
Anyway, we're going to have a timeline.
Now, this timeline simply suggests that people who, in other words, that time travel inevitably is going to come to pass, I believe, Dr. Mallet or otherwise.
And if it is, it may mean many things.
One, that there are visitors here now in our time from other times.
That certainly would be one.
And two, that they may be traveling back on various missions because if you could move into the past, you could change something.
And if you changed something, everything else after it might change.
Given to those strange memories that a lot of people have about the way things were.
Like Streisand, the way we were, right?
We just, we don't know it because we're the way we are now.
So, two lines.
One, a truly possessed person exhibiting their possessor's personality and voice.
And or time travelers.
Real hardware time travelers.
Not people who travel in their mind, but people who travel with devices.
Speaking of devices, we've got one up on the website.
Pretty interesting stuff, actually.
Photographs of a time machine from John the Time Traveler.
Take a look and let me know what you think.
So, our first time, here's the deal.
Our first time caller line, area code 775-727-1222 is hereby restricted.
Restricted.
Do not use it unless you are a possessed person in action or a time traveler willing to spill his or her guts.
Because we know you're out there.
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We know you're out there.
Now, we take you back to the past on Art Bell Somewhere in Time.
Yeah, and the other thing, Richard Bach, the gentleman was just speaking of, part of what he wrote about is traveling in time to meet his own child self.
So I think that might be why he was mentioning Richard Bach.
I really am becoming more and more convinced that time travel is that we're actually on the edge of it now, and that obviously if that's true, then there are time travelers shortly.
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Oh, yeah.
And I do believe that time has been changing.
It is shortening and shortening and shortening.
And pretty soon we're going to have Christmas right after Christmas.
All right, my guess is going to be that you got roped in by your buddy to test complete accident.
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I'm from the future, from the past.
What do you mean?
Okay, as this time travel deal goes on, they had the thing working, they had things going on, and stuff would slow down when you speed up time, and stuff would speed up when you slow down time and all that garbage.
Yep.
All right.
Well, we're screwing around lunchtime one day.
I got in there, and he started messing around.
He thought he'd speed it up and see me slow down.
It was like a telephone booth type box.
understand yes nothing i know They just working on it.
Next thing I know, I'm out in the middle of a wilderness.
And I was checking out this kid who was working at one of the in Vegas, so you could sort of go, I wouldn't say unnoticed, but certainly nobody would raise their eyebrows too high there in Vegas.
Right, well.
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Basically, I found this kid.
He must be like 24, 25 years old.
And he was different than some of the other impersonators I've seen.
He had a kind of a special magic about him.
And he also seemed like he was only alive when he was on stage, you know?
My real friend came by today, cause he was telling everyone in town, of the love that he just found, and the reason made, of his latest friend.
He talked and talked, and I heard him say, that she had the longest, whitest hair, the prettiest green eyes anywhere, and the reason made, of his latest friend.
mean i you know if you got elvis you ask right as they're getting surely you must know what this Well, the green eyes actually were about a particular person.
Marie?
thank you guys i guess i could hope for more information of us but i i i i I'll give you some information.
unidentified
All right.
I started performing again when I met this kid.
Because this kid, like I said, he had the look, and he had the, you know, in a way about him.
It was also pretty easy to take over the vocal cords, if you know what I'm saying.
Sounds like a normal, almost normal laugh to me anyway.
All right, good.
All right, so you called for a special reason, right?
You betcha.
What is it?
unidentified
Well, I've been privileged in my life to live in several places, the Middle East.
I've been to the Caribbean to visit my folks where they live.
And I've seen several UFOs.
The earliest was when I was about five in Main Island, BC, on the Gulf Islands between Vancouver Island and Vancouver, the lower mainland, and Victoria, where I heard one of my fellow Canadians call in about the chemtrails, which a friend of mine, Rory, phoned, or I talked to him shortly after, and he says he's seen them several times, and they're still doing it.
The problem that I have is there's no way, and I've been trying as hard as I can to get a formulation through the length of the tone to get an area or longitude or latitudal area upon a globe.
Well, before, if you have a specific, here's what I want you to do.
If you have a specific prediction to make, as a result of your tones, make it and mail it to me before whatever it is happens, happens.
Having said that, I talk to people in all kinds of disciplines who have been watching the pattern of earthquakes lately and the lack of earthquakes in some other important areas.
And they seem to agree that the West Coast is due for a shake pretty quick.
So we'll take your tone report and put that on the pile.
About a year and a half ago, I came up with a little invention that I believe will break or open up some of the barriers between communicating with extraterrestrials that are presently monitoring this planet.
You know, though, I see some problems with what you're doing.
Okay.
And here it is.
I haven't fully made up my mind yet whether the aliens, Heinz 57 varieties, some people say, are more good than bad or more bad than good.
And if your beacon should get activated, well, for example, I wouldn't run it at night, not all night.
You've got to remember, after all, that whoever recognizes your beacon and recognizes this is a place and a time to contact, I mean, anything could happen to you.
I know you've heard the stories.
We're talking long needles, probes in places that you don't want probed, mind washes.
We're talking all kinds of possibilities that could occur to you.
unidentified
Oh, yes, we are.
But then you have to remember, again, like to coin a phrase, a friend of mine once said, we, being humans living on Earth, have no choice but to think in human logic.
Because we're humans.
Now, the nearest star is, what, 100 million light years away?
So if they really can travel these distances, what hope do you really have that they would think of you in any way more than I don't know, you know, a monkey that can do tricks?
That I could be prosecuted and that I might end up sitting in front of a federal judge in closed session, which essentially means that I would be tried and no one would ever know about it for supplying black sources.
You're on a talk show right now that's international and you're being heard by millions of people.
So doesn't that sort of violate your clause?
unidentified
The only way that this type of information can get out is if some of us who are involved in the intelligence community, even in that low end, which I was.
What kind of an impact do you suppose it will have?
Isn't it, in essence, a terrible tampering with all kinds of timelines?
unidentified
See, the timeline problem, which we dealt with, we hoped would come through with the unified theory.
We thought that once we got the unified theory back, the timeline problem would be solved and they would be able to tell us, well, it isn't going to be a problem because of you fill in the blank.
So as I said before, we were hoping to sort of cheat science and get back this information.
Okay, I think I've got the picture, and I certainly appreciate the call.
And I do understand the concept of getting a message forward faster than time, trying to get the answer to everything virtually and bring it back here to this time, accelerating, of course, everything changing all kinds of timelines.
Incredible story.
A wildcard line?
You're on here.
Hello.
unidentified
Oh, hi, Art.
didn't know the rules of the game so yes i did call the wild card line is all are you We work till two.
Yeah, but the cars that were flying, this is really cool.
The ones that were flying galloped down, they had a pulley system that galloped down like a horse, and then the pulley system lifted the legs back underneath the car, and they went on the road.
It made the car able to stop on a dime.
Now, our robotics, since I've had the dreams, are coming to this technology that it can do that.
That's what's really cool.
And at the same period of time, this is, I believe, 2121, they had projection televisions.
Every room had a big screen TV in it, but it had one projection box in the middle of the room with slits in it that would send the signal to the different screens.
And then by the year 22, 25, there was hardly any cars at all.
But the one car I did see in the square, it had an odometer on the license plate, like it was counting time or counting something, like it was at a premium.
So a time-traveling vehicle, really, is what you were seeing.
unidentified
Well, I don't think so.
No, because, you know, I was in, I had first appeared in a place that had, like, been burnt or something, and there was a female police officer with a scanner type thing like you see on Star Trek.
And she was searching for an identification signature.
And when I went to the cafe and sat down and talked to a couple men, they said, don't you have an identification tag?
And I said, well, no, I don't.
I'm from the year, blah, blah, blah.
What year is this?
And, you know, they look at each other really strange in my dreams, you know.
You don't have an identification tag?
By that time, everybody had an identification tag.
It's a Friday night, Saturday morning, and obviously the veil has lifted for a number of hours here, and we'll see how long it goes.
Open lines, one exception there.
The first-time caller line is canceled and devoted to possessed people.
We've not had a plethora of possessed people, but a few.
And of course, time travelers.
And we've had so many of those that they're beginning to leak over onto the other lines.
The bail is really up.
unidentified
The bail is really up.
somewhere in time with our bell continues courtesy of premier networks the Tim in Minnesota says, Art, next time someone calls with a computer in their head, please pop them a question quickly to see how fast they come up with an answer.
I'm going to have an animal communicator on the show.
I do personally believe that it's possible to communicate with animals.
And so I suppose if she received a communication, a communication about an upcoming event, that it would be possible, knowing that ahead of time, to position the bag appropriately.
My daughter used to go out horse riding all the time, and she was 11, and she went, I lived in Ashland, Oregon at that time, and there was a lake way out in the wilderness, sort of, called Immigrant Lake.
And she used to go riding, take her horses out to Immigrant Lake and ride around.
There was an old, ancient, old cemetery out there.
And she came home one day and said, Mom, Mom, there was the weirdest thing.
We were riding, and there was like a little chipmunk colony, and all the animals were dead, and they were all frozen in place.
And I went out and looked, and lo and behold, they were.
There was one chipmunk had been climbing up a tree trunk, and something had startled him.
He had turned his head, and his tail was up, and he was frozen in that place.
And they start in the year 2052, they start every kid at fourth grade level, they have to carry around an electronic baby with them, like half the school year that cries and does all these things, and it helps a little bit.
And so the little placebo baby does all the realistic things like pfft.
And it teaches these little tykes what it would be really like.
unidentified
Right, and it does help somewhat.
But the government, you know, had this, you know, voluntary sterilization, but there was a big thing about it, you know, it was very, you know, opposed.
The other thing they could do, and I'm just thinking ahead, of course, would be to make them wear this thing that would simulate a giant belly in weight and size.
Well, people, you know, people, as a rule, they have all the drugs that they give people, they have substituted, these psychotropic drugs, they substitute them With natural substances.
And they're special, they're enclosed where a lot of the produce is above ground.
There's no such thing as open-air farming anymore.
It's all got like a huge greenhouse type thing.
And they discovered there's a lot of poisons that's causing a lot of people's crazy behavior.
Certainly if you built a house down into the ground, a lot of people don't know this, but the ground temperature just three feet down is a constant temperature.
You see, from an energy perspective, if your home is underground or partially underground, you're going to have, I forget what it is, 57 degrees, I believe, is about the temperature, somewhere in there.
So you don't have to air condition very far, obviously, and nor in the summer, nor in the winter, rather, do you have to heat very much.
You're always starting off at a base point of about 57 degrees, so that would lessen the energy needs significantly.
The thing is, is they're finding in the Caribbean where Jacques Cousteau dove on one of the oldest wrecks, and they're pulling up wine bottles that are still sealed and preserved, and they toasted out of one of the wine bottles at one of the functions.
Nuclear fallout across the northern hemisphere of North America, the whole nine yards, nuclear attack, failing to knock it down with a couple of missiles.
Last thing I wanted to touch on is the power industry, the local radio is reporting something about hearings going on.
Could you pull that AP wire about the 3,000 kilowatt hours last year versus over 12,000 kilowatt hours this year worth of maintenance going on or something?
Since I came on 12 years ago, that number has tripled.
In fact, a large part of the shift, the 10-hour shift that I work, is spent on some days handling people who either want to commit suicide, who are having mental difficulties, any type of anxiety disorders, people who are on medication or not taking medication, and it's affecting their behavior.
But yeah, that amount has tripled in the last 12 years, at least as far as I'm concerned.
And knowing the events that are going on and having listened to your radio program for many years now, I can't help but think that there isn't some type of correlation, call it desolation, of people in the world, or at least people maybe over here in the land of fruit and nuts.
But there is definitely a sense amongst the people that I work with that there are more and more people who are just kind of throwing in the pow.
Yeah, my ship has been consumed on most on my ship is being consumed nowadays on Sundays primarily by some type of incident involving someone with a mental health problem, as opposed to 12 years ago when I first came on when it didn't seem to be as prevalent.
Well, thank you very much for the call and take care.
Actually, the figure I had always heard would really fit that bill.
I mean, I had always heard that one in four Americans, according to some psychological psychiatric organization of some sort, one in every four people could be considered to have some kind of mental illness.
Now, again, that's by their standards.
It may well be that something else is at work here, and it may well be that these people are not technically crazy.
They simply are in touch with another reality.
In other words, what you have observed, and I think accurately, is people that you perceive by your standards as being mentally ill, maybe they are.
but maybe there is some other change underway as well that accounts for what you see as mental illness first time Hello, Art.
Yes.
unidentified
Yes, hi, this is Father Jerome.
I'm calling you right now from KEX country up here in Oregon.
Alzheimer's, you'll find out in exactly nine years, eight months, and two days that Alzheimer's is caused by enzymes in meat stemming from mad cow disease.
You will not have to go vegetarian.
You will just have to properly condition the meat differently.
So we have seen the magnet, we've seen Magnetic North.
There have been several times over the last several years that my listeners have called me and said Magnetic North has moved actually as much as 12 degrees, takes little temporary jaunts, and a lot of people think it's getting ready to take the big one.
And then a lot of the ones they have now are down for maintenance and stuff.
unidentified
About four or five months ago, a friend of mine, I was in the Navy years ago, a Lieutenant J.G. friend of mine told me that the Navy was getting four old boomers ready to turn over to California, using its power generating stations.
They're the ones that have turned surplus, the ones that were agreements with the Russians where they filled the missile tubes with concrete.
Yeah, I guess you could put one in L.A. and one in L.A. They planned to put one in Coronado, one in San Pedro, one in Alameda, and I don't know where the fourth was to go.
And you think about five weeks ago the timeline changed?
unidentified
About five weeks ago, I found that the timeline had changed.
Somewhere between December, about the 15th, and about, as far as I've been able to trace it, somewhere between the 15th and the 5th of January, my timeline changed.
So when you add something to it, an implant or a computer implant or whatever you want to call it, they can and do access different parts of your brain.
It just eternally provides you with a mediocre stream of bits of yeses and no's?
unidentified
Well, it enhances my own brain and activates different functions of my brain as far as you know you're asking remembering history and stuff that's not something that's that I do I'm not a history person well I'm sorry sir you are the weekendsly goodbye wildcard line you're on the air uh hey art hey how you doing I'm glad to have you back on the air first of all but um yeah I was listening to that lady that had the saw the dead squirrels in Ashland oh yes yes that was weird yeah it was
But the thing is, I used to live in Ashland, and probably about 30 miles out of the airport.
And we went out there, because I was doing some work out there, and it was probably a mile out past the airport.
I mean, they were perfectly preserved, and they were looking up at the air like some had their mouths open.
And I thought maybe it was something to do with the airplanes taking off there, but then I heard the story about the squirrels tonight, and I'm like...
But I'm curious, these birds, because they freaked us out when we saw them.
We, like, told people about them, and no one knew what we were talking about, and that's the first thing I've ever heard was the dead squirrels exactly like that.
Maybe the little birds, the little squirrels, well, the squirrels certainly weren't conscious because they were beginning to become skeletons, but the little birds, they might have been conscious.
And kicking a helpless little bird that can't move.
I didn't know if I could, you know, if that was promoting or whatever, but, yeah, I was listening to it the other day because it just came out in my friend's car and I heard it and I was like, that's really familiar.
And I kind of pictured back in my memory what it was and I was like, oh, yeah.
They've got the whole clip, like, sampled on there, you know, along with a bunch of background static and really cool noise and everything.
interview somebody from Tool yeah the guy's a really weird guy I met him once I think he'd like him no he is weird as a matter of fact Tool has made a number of trips to Area 51.
But no, I was going to go parum pump, but I thought, nah.
But anyway, I was listening, and normally I would joke about something like that, but I don't think I will anymore because that stuff made the hair on the back of my neck stand up.
Not only differently than I remembered, but almost like the exact opposite.
But yet they had all this detail.
And then when I check, it's like other people would remember it their way, and some people would be fuzzy, but I definitely remember a totally different way of working out.
In the life you're in now, you're just sort of an average gal.
Of course.
In the other life, you were a party gal.
unidentified
Well, no, no, no, not even that.
Just honestly, this is why I'm telling you, this is totally, I'm totally serious with this.
And I only started noticing it about five years ago.
i'm asking what are the differences you can imagine They remember them, and I'm sure that they're remembering them accurately, but it's like totally different than what I remember.
And then there are some things that other people are in dispute about, and I'm like real fuzzy on.
Like the whole thing with Nelson Mandela, that's the weird one.
When I heard that, again, the hair on the back of my neck stood up because I do remember him dying in prison.
And then sometime later, I remember being surprised when I heard that he's like the president of the ANC or whatever they call their government.
Well, and he even visited here and everything, and I'm thinking, but that's weird because I remember, and this was before I stopped to think that I had heard that he had died in prison, but I could have remembered hearing that he had been assassinated.
So it's like two different major things happened to Nelson Mandela.
And so what you're talking about is a major area of investigation for me.
I'm not sure how to go about investigating this.
I've been pondering that now for quite some time, and I have no idea how to proceed, because how do we start to prove, other than with evidence of people like you calling and emailing me, that somebody's screwing with timelines?
How do we prove that?
unidentified
You know what?
I'm going to think about that.
And if I ever get through to you again, I'll have a suggestion.
All I can imagine is compiling a lot of the kind of evidence you've given me tonight.
I mean, your own personal testimony.
unidentified
Well, better than that, how about we start from today?
Because this is all, see, this is the problem.
This is all after the fact.
Sort of like in a classroom when the answer is given and then some kid says, oh, yeah, I was just about to say that.
It's like, yeah, right.
Maybe they were, but yeah, right.
So this is all falls within the category of, yeah, right.
So how about everybody, like everybody listening, start keeping a journal of the high points of their day, like just two or three lines, whatever the major things are.