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Welcome to Art Bell Somewhere in Time.
Tonight, featuring Coast to Coast AM from May 18th, 2001, from the high desert in the great American Southwest.
art bell
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Now, one other item before we turn to something really important.
We're going to have open lines tonight.
And by the way, I don't know what we're going to do.
Maybe a time traveler line, maybe a possessed person line.
Maybe both.
I haven't made up my mind yet, but Friday night, Saturday morning, it's going to be open lines.
With one exception, and that comes right now.
I really want you to listen very closely to my words.
The story is Lost City off Western Cuba.
And you've got to grasp the implications of this.
Most intriguingly, researchers using sonar equipment have discovered at a depth of about 2,200 feet, we'll talk about the importance of that.
It's almost a half a mile down.
I've been reading this to you for three days.
They've discovered a huge land plateau with clear images of what appears to be urban development, partly covered by sand from above.
The shapes, they say, resemble pyramids, roads, and buildings.
ADC, the company, is excited but reluctant to speculate until a joint investigation with the Cuban Academy of Sciences and the U.S. National Geographic Society takes place early this summer.
It is, according to Ms. Zelitsky of ADC, quote, it is stunning.
What we see in our high-resolution sonar images are limitless rolling white sand plains, and right in the middle of this beautiful white sand, there are clear, man-made, large-size architectural designs.
It looks like when you fly over an urban development in a plane, and you see highways, tunnels, and buildings.
We don't know what it is, and we don't have the videotaped evidence of this yet, but we do not believe that nature is capable of producing planned symmetrical architecture unless it's a miracle.
She added that from an interview done at her office at Tarawa along the eastern coast of Havana.
Now, I saw this story and I went, oh my God, it was Reuters.
And then I had Keith go and look for the story.
I said, Keith, go see if this is a real Reuters story for me, would you please?
And he did.
And we've got it up there.
Let's see, where is it?
It was up there.
Oh, gee, where has it gone?
Let me hold down a little bit, see if it's still there.
Keith, if you're listening, please put it back up there under what's new because of the significant real importance of this.
Really important.
Do you understand, if you don't understand what this means?
Well, I guess the first job was to verify it was a real story.
And that hadn't been so easy.
So I've called upon my environmental reporter, my science reporter, really.
She's done work in so many areas, in environmental documentaries.
She's done just work in every area of science you can imagine for us.
And I would never have the time to do the kind of follow-up she does.
It's the only way you can get to the truth.
Linda Moulton Howe.
And so she began looking into this story herself.
And in a moment, she'll be here to tell you what she went through and what we found.
Believe me, I tell you, sit right where you are.
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Don't move a muscle.
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Art Bell All right.
art bell
Now, I want to do a little setup on this, a further setup on this, so that you understand what's going on.
Investigator of crop circles, animal mutilations, things like the animal monkeyman that's attacked yet again in Delhi.
Wild story.
Maybe it's Chuba.
The latest, by the way, on that is that, well, Linda, hi.
I just get so carried away with everything.
linda moulton howe
Well, and also, for close listeners, I'm the reporter and editor of EarthFiles.com, and what I'm going to be playing and talking about is at my website under Science.
And this is, I think, who knows, Art, how big this story may ultimately be.
But what started on this underwater city reported off Western Cuba, you and I were talking about Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, and today is Friday.
art bell
I think I gave you, I initially sent you the Reuters story.
I said, look at this.
linda moulton howe
That's right.
art bell
And so you began to make calls, right?
linda moulton howe
Yeah, and my first phone call was to try to get in touch with Paulina Zelitsky, since she's the engineer who was quoted in the Reuters story and found out that there was no way to get any kind of information in Puerto Rico.
You can't do that in Puerto Rico.
art bell
I mean, Cuba.
linda moulton howe
Sorry, Cuba.
You can't get the numbers there because of political problems.
And it said that this company was based in British Columbia.
And so I went to operators there and asked for advanced digital communications in both of the area codes in British Columbia.
And the operator came up with a company that she said was that name and went by ADC.
And I talked with people there about this story.
They knew nothing.
They referred me to their international headquarters in Minneapolis.
They knew nothing.
An executive director of communications called me back even in the evening and said she was very puzzled.
They didn't know anything about this.
They didn't do any underwater exploration.
They were a broadband telecommunications company.
I said, ask her, I said, well, can you try to find out what company is using the same letters that you're using?
And she said that she would.
She called me back again and said that she had not been able to come up with anything on that company.
art bell
So it's looking at, you called me, right?
And you said, hey, Art.
linda moulton howe
I'm not sure this is real.
art bell
This may be a camp, I think you said.
unidentified
And I said, it might be, but it is Reuters.
art bell
So you kept on going.
linda moulton howe
Yeah.
So the next thing was getting in touch with National Geographic.
And for a while, no one there knew anything about this until finally a man in their science department called me with a woman, a reference.
Her name is Barbara Moffat.
She's Director of Plans and Programs in the Communications Office for the National Geographic Society in Washington, D.C. She knew nothing either much.
And she said, though, that she had a copy of the Reuters story and that she would do some checking with her superiors to see if in fact she could say anything on the record for radio.
And after waiting for some time, she called me back.
art bell
It was about 30 minutes.
Oh, no, you were on hold 30 minutes.
Where are you?
linda moulton howe
Well, she went away and then she came back.
This is two or three times.
And finally, the last time, she said, I now can talk with you.
I don't have much to say, but if you want to use this on the radio, fine.
And so.
art bell
So I gave you permission, right?
And another thing is, Linda, if she had to go away that many times, you can speculate the conversation in the background was, hey, I put a report on the line on this Cuba thing.
unidentified
What the hell do I say?
linda moulton howe
Well, and I actually think that she didn't know much.
And that was what surprised me because she is director of plans and programs.
And so whatever has been happening, it has been happening either at a small number of decision makers or this is truly something that has just come to light at National Geographic because, as you will hear, Pauline Zelitsky is known to National Geographic and apparently has made a proposal for further research.
But here we go after trying to get contact information for Paulina Zielitsky, the Cuban Academy of Sciences, and Advanced Digital Communications from National Geographic Society.
And to confirm this story, the following are the only comments that National Geographic spokeswoman Barbara Moffat would give today.
art bell
Here we go.
linda moulton howe
Please tell me what you know at National Geographic.
unidentified
We know really what the Cuban people have told us on the basis of a fairly preliminary survey that they did for another purpose apparently earlier, I believe last year, where they were working in testing some deepwater equipment off of Savannah Bay.
They found some things that they thought were interesting, but it was a very preliminary search.
I don't even know the details of the type of equipment being used, but they agreed that much more specific and different types of equipment would be needed to go back to the site.
So they have made a proposal to us, I believe, that we get involved and help them explore the area.
And it's now just one of many, many proposals we have for such exploration that we're considering at the moment.
linda moulton howe
Who is Advanced Digital Communications?
unidentified
I'm afraid I don't know details on that.
linda moulton howe
But does the National Geographic Society have knowledge about Advanced Digital Communications?
unidentified
I'm sure we do.
And yes, Linda, I could find out more on that if you need me to call you back on that.
I just didn't ask that question.
linda moulton howe
Yeah, I really do.
I'd like to talk with somebody there.
Now, in terms of the Reuters story, they have talked with Paulina Zelitsky, who is identified as an ocean engineer.
Can you tell me about Paulina Zielitsky?
unidentified
I don't know too much except that she was, I believe, born in the Soviet Union, but she is based in Havana.
And she's someone who is very involved in underwater work in the waters off of Cuba, and we have known her for some time.
Again, she's someone who's just made a proposal to us to do some exploration together.
linda moulton howe
So you at the National Geographic are in communication with Paulina Zelitsky.
That's right.
And the proposal that she has made has been as an ocean engineer working with Advanced Digital Communications.
unidentified
Yes, uh-huh.
I believe she's made the proposal on behalf of the company that she represents, ADC.
But I just would say again that it is still so early on this project, and frankly, some of the things that Paulina has been quoted as saying are pretty speculative.
We just don't know that anything like that really exists yet.
linda moulton howe
Well, in the Reuters article, she is quoted, we are the first people ever to see the bottom of Cuban waters over 50 meters, and this is supposed to be down at 2,200 feet.
It is so exciting.
We are discovering the influence of currents on global climate, volcanoes, the history of formation of Caribbean islands, numerous historic wrecks, and even possibly a sunken city built in the pre-classic period and populated by an advanced civilization similar to the early Tihuatacan culture of the Yucatan.
And then she says ADC was using and testing deepwater equipment off Havana Bay, as you just said, when they found what she described as clear.
She says it's very clear.
We are seeing high-resolution center images that are showing white sand and in the middle of the white sand are clear, man-made, large-sized architectural designs.
It looks like when you fly over an urban development in a plane and you see highways, tunnels, and buildings.
unidentified
Yeah, I have a copy of a story that's similar to that.
And I know that she's quoted as saying all that.
I think she also says, we don't know what it is, and we don't have the videos they've evidenced yet.
I mean, I think she would agree that it really is very early to even speculate as she has here.
I don't know.
I mean, it would be great if it turned out to be something that exciting.
Obviously, we hope so, too, if we want to get involved.
linda moulton howe
Yes, I mean, this seems very important.
And Reuters, the interview, also is saying that ADC has been using satellite-integrated ocean bottom positioning systems, high-precision side-scan double-frequency sonar, and remotely operated submarine robots, and that they plan to put two submersibles down there.
And it sounds as if Paulina Zelitsky has been looking at high-resolution sonar images.
unidentified
The copy I have says that ADC's equipment includes those things.
I don't know that they've had a chance to use them in this site yet, but I don't know.
Obviously, there's a lot more to find out about this whole project, and that's something we're in the process of trying to do right now.
linda moulton howe
Well, since Reuter says ADC is excited but reluctant to speculate until a joint investigation with the Cuban Academy of Sciences and the U.S. National Geographic Society takes place early this summer, can you talk about the work that you're doing with the Cuban Academy of Sciences?
unidentified
Again, that paragraph assumes that we have a project, and unfortunately, that hasn't been decided yet.
There are many logistical questions that we're still working out, and as I said, it's one of dozens, if not hundreds, of projects that we're considering right now from all over the world.
So it is really very early, even earlier than this story is indicating.
I don't think we have anything official with either group.
linda moulton howe
But there must be somebody at the National Geographic Society who has even images from this high-resolution sonar that Paulina Zeliski is describing on which to base a decision to do this underwater archaeological work?
unidentified
I haven't asked that.
I haven't seen anything like that.
I think it's mostly just been conversations, but I can find out.
linda moulton howe
Now, this also, this Reuters story says that, quoting from Paulina Zawitzki, our agenda is much broader.
We are very anxious about global environmental changes.
Archaeology is providing us with the means to conduct broader scientific ocean exploration.
That three other foreign companies, one Canadian, one French, and one South African, operate in shallower waters than ADC.
Under contracts with Cuban state partner GMR, all the firms have concessions to explore in different swathes of sea and would share profits with the government.
Can you make any comment about these other international efforts there off the coast of Cuba?
unidentified
No.
linda moulton howe
So the National Geographic Society is working only with ADC?
unidentified
As far as I know, yes.
linda moulton howe
And the Cuban Academy of Sciences.
unidentified
But we aren't working with any of them for sure yet.
It's just what we're considering.
linda moulton howe
And that if you do, it would be this summer of 2001?
unidentified
I don't know if that question has been answered, but I think that we'd like to do it as soon as possible if it does happen.
linda moulton howe
And when do you think a decision will actually be made about National Geographic going forward with the Cuban Academy of Sciences and ADC to look at this underwater sign more closely?
unidentified
I don't yet know that either.
I know that we're seriously considering it, though.
linda moulton howe
An hour later, I found this message on my phone's voicemail.
unidentified
Linda, it's Barbara Moffitt at National Geographic calling back.
I don't have anything else for you, I'm afraid.
The principals involved in this project, most of them are not here today, but the ones people I have to talk with in my blog say that the nature of the status of this project and the place we are in this project is still at a very confidential stage.
There's nothing else that we can release.
We don't have images to release.
I don't even think we have any images or any other phone numbers.
This information is confidential right now.
I'm sorry that I can't be more helpful, but I hope that you at least are able to do a little bit with what I have given you.
And I'm keeping your name and number to inform you once that day comes.
Thanks a lot.
art bell
Linda, listen.
That was great.
We're at the bottom of the hour, so hold it right there, all right?
And we'll do some comedy after this.
So, in other words, what did we get out of that?
They confirmed the story.
Now, that's awesome.
Do you have any idea what we're talking, what we might be talking about here?
We might be talking about Atlantis.
Stay right there.
We'll be right back.
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Tonight, featuring Coast to Coast AM from the 18th of May, 2001.
art bell
What an astounding conversation with National Geographic.
Absolutely astounding.
And anybody who listened carefully at all could read between about 100 lines during that conversation.
That was excellent work, Linda.
Absolutely excellent.
Listen, we're about to get back to Linda to finish this up, but there is one more thing I want to mention to you quickly.
On my webcam right now, I have an object that a listener sent me on my webcam.
And you have exactly one hour to go up there and look at it and send me your email guess about what you're looking at.
I held it close to the camera and focused on that so you could see it clearly.
So you take a look at my webcam, and you've got an hour to email me your guess.
I'm going to see if anybody gets it right.
I thought it was really cute.
Linda Howe will be back in a moment.
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Linda Howe will be back in a moment.
You're listening to Art Bell, Somewhere in Time.
Tonight featuring Coast to Coast AM from the 18th of May, 2001.
Music Well, all right.
art bell
This Reuters story broke.
And as you know, I've been reading it to you for three days straight because I couldn't get over it.
But not another organization anywhere has grabbed it.
Nobody's talking about it.
But do you understand the implications of this?
Linda, explain to everybody if this should be true, which apparently it is, and this underwater city is 2,200 feet down.
What does 2,200 feet mean geologically?
linda moulton howe
Well, that's half a mile down, and it's always recently it's been talked about that when the last ice age was here and the ice had basically sucked up the water and the current sea levels could have been down, they say 300 feet.
art bell
300 feet.
linda moulton howe
Yeah, 30 feet.
art bell
That was the last ice age.
linda moulton howe
Yes, and that we now are back up to where we are now because the water melted.
Now, so this is very low, and there are two trains of thought here that have emerged out of today, both talking with a woman at National Geographic and talking with Edgar Casey's son, Edgar Casey Jr.
In the Reuters interview, the author, Andrew Coshorn, the reporter, he quotes Paulina Zielitsky, the ocean engineer, as saying, quote, we are discovering,
among other things, possibly a sunken city built in the pre-classic period and populated by an advanced civilization similar to the early, and it's in the Webster's, it pronounces it, Teotihuacan, culture of the Yucatan.
Now, when you go to a map, I have put a map, a pretty good one, at earthfiles.com at the top of this story, and it shows how Cuba is basically right below Key West, and if you swing west, and we don't know yet exactly where this is, you are really getting to get out of the Atlantic and out of the Straits of Florida and into the Gulf of Mexico.
And I called Edgar Casey Jr. today, and I was talking to him about this.
He had had no one has called him or talked to him either.
And I said, what did your father basically, can you re-summarize for me?
And he said, well, he thought that after the turn of this century, the 21st century, that some of the remnants of the Atlantis would be discovered.
And I said, where did your father place Atlantis geographically?
And Edgar Casey Jr. said that it was in the South Atlantic.
He said the western edge of it was in the Benini and Bermuda area off the coast of Florida.
Actually, if you look at a geologic map that the coast and geodetic people have for that area, I think for hundreds of thousands of square miles, it's very shallow there.
And the sea level 10,000 years ago and more was probably several hundred feet lower than it is now.
Well, this is the, if you look at the maps today, it could be argued almost that Cuba itself and that area of land may or may not have been part of a continent that went out further into the Atlantic.
That's the part none of us know.
But obviously Cuba has not had these structures on it.
And Casey has said that whatever would be found would be found underwater.
And further, I just learned that last week, for the first time in, I think it was the last time, it was two or three, four years ago, they went back out into the area in Bimini where they have found a shark.
It is absolutely the shape of a shark.
And for people who would like to see this photograph, they're doing more testing.
They're doing more all kinds of analyses on it.
I first did this story with an interview on May 16th, 1999 with Edgar Evans Casey.
And have photographs of this shark in that story at earthfiles.com.
It would be very interesting tonight to go to that May 16th story.
You can go to my headlines page and go down and click on it, and you can see this amazing photograph of this shark that is out in the Bimini area that can only be seen from the air art.
There is no way you can't see it from boats.
You can't see it when you're any place.
You have to see it from the air.
And it's beginning to raise this idea that there may be something huge that was connected between, and you look on the map that I've got, it's not too far from Bibini to get down to this area that is just north of Cuba.
And how big was this complex?
Okay, that is the one direction.
But if you go Teatiwakan, and this was this enigmatic, totally mysterious, the origin, the language, everything about it is a mystery.
And that was the pre-Mayan, perhaps going to the Olmec or between Olmec and Mayan, the so-called acceptable academic date is 400 BC for the flourishing of this culture that built huge pyramids.
And to help people think about the possibility that this underwater, 2,200 feet down, that Paulina Zelitsky is describing, that when you look at this image that I have got on EarthFiles.com, it is of the Pyramid of the Sun.
And this is 33 miles northeast of modern Mexico City.
But this whole culture of Teotihuacan was supposed to be huge and extended.
No one knows how far.
And then, if this is tied to that Yucatan culture that has been so mysterious over so many millennia, how in the world could anybody's city have ended up 2,200 feet down?
art bell
If this is Atlantis, Linda, it would make it the story of the way she has described this, one has to conclude that she used the equipment she described, or she could not possibly have been describing the kind of detail we have here.
Would you agree with that?
linda moulton howe
Well, that's why I asked Barbara Moffitt in National Geographic if she could please check to see if she could get me some of these high-resolution sonar images.
Well, yes, but it seems to me that the high-resolution sonar images must be there for them to make a decision on going forward with more archaeology.
unidentified
Bingo.
art bell
So 2,200 feet under would make it...
linda moulton howe
You know, it's so puzzling because when you start going down a half a mile to find something that sounds as detailed as what she's describing, it's kind of hard to get my mind around it since everywhere else in the world the discussion has always been at about 300 feet down.
And they found that new city off of the coast of Turkey at about 300 feet below sea level.
And all of that was supposed to jibe with the end of the last ice age.
But 2,200 feet down, was there some kind of jibe?
Well, look at the asteroid that allegedly came in, but that was 68 million years ago.
Now, in the Casey time, I was refreshing my memory today, and I was surprised to read that he said in his readings that there were three cycles to whatever Atlantis was as a civilization, and that part of it went back at least 200,000 years ago.
This is now according to the Casey readings.
Well, 200,000 is still just a flick of an eye compared to 68 million when that asteroid was supposed to have slammed into the Yucatan area.
So you can't find, or at least I don't know, what would explain land going down that far with a city on it that had pyramids, roads, tunnels, and all of that.
art bell
This is really something, Linda.
All right.
Well, listen, bless your heart.
That's a lot of really hard work.
I know you were on the phone for a long time to get what you got, and I'm not sure where we go from here.
linda moulton howe
I'm going to keep on this and wait for them to give me some more information, and I'll report back.
art bell
All right.
Bless your heart, Linda.
Thank you.
linda moulton howe
Oh, and thank you.
art bell
Have a good night.
All right.
Well, there you have it, folks.
I'm telling you, this story is monstrous.
Obviously, in my opinion, they used the equipment described to get the kind of pictures, the renditions, the high-resolution renditions that they claim to have.
So, do we get any more?
Apparently not from National Geographic.
With respect to all the other questions, sorry, it's confidential.
This is a big story.
This is a really, really big story, folks.
So I'm going to stay on it myself.
And maybe it's Atlantis.
Maybe it's Atlantis.
Wouldn't that be the story of the century, or even several?
All right.
Let's see what else is going on.
Open lines coming up.
Still not sure what we're going to do.
I think a possessed person line sounds pretty good.
Are there any possessed people out there?
I know there are.
We heard them the other night, right?
Again, I want you to look at my webcam.
Tell me what it is that you think you're looking at on my webcam.
I changed the focus so I could get a macro focus on it so you could see it clearly.
And you are welcome to take a guess for about an hour.
Then in about an hour, I'll tell you what it is.
I went today, and I'm very proud of this, too.
I had to, I carry a concealed weapon.
You know, here in Nevada, we have a concealed weapon law.
And my wife and I both passed that five years ago.
It's a pretty rigorous thing.
You go through a school, a little school, and then you have to go to the range, the shooting range, and you have to go through FBI fingerprints.
And, oh, gosh, you go through a lot.
Today we went to renew our five-year CCW permits.
And they had a new test.
Who concocted this test?
I don't know.
But there were some unusual questions on it.
Actually, actually, I guess I can't read them.
Can I?
I'm not allowed to do that.
I can't do that.
Maybe they have many tests.
I don't know, but I won't chance it.
There were some unusual questions.
Let me leave it at that.
And then we went to the range and qualified.
And I did all that early morning, so it's been a long day for me.
Anyway, did pretty well at the range.
And I will show you.
I've got a Glock is my favorite, a 40-caliber Glock.
Not too bad.
I brought my target home.
I was pretty proud of it, actually.
You see, five years ago, Ramona whomped my butt.
She's a better shooter than I am.
She has a.38, and she was really good.
And so for five years, five long years, I've been hearing about this, how she womped me.
unidentified
This time I got her.
art bell
I got her, but good.
She passed with flying colors, but I nailed her.
So now for five years, she is going to have to listen to it.
Nailed you on the written test and really nailed you on the range.
Oh, I tell you, I heard about that for five long years.
Attorney General Janet Reno said that she might be thinking about running for governor of Florida next year.
That would pit her against Governor Jeb Bush.
Wow.
Wouldn't you have thought Janet Reno would think about retirement after all of this?
But no, she wouldn't run for governor of Florida.
That's something.
She did a lot of work in Florida, you know, before she became Attorney General.
Well, there are a number of other things that I want to talk to you about.
The monkey man in India has attacked yet again, and we've got a picture up of the monkey man.
Actually, a link to CNN's composite drawing, more accurately, of the monkey man, and it sure does look chupacabra-like.
At first, they were saying it was some man or marauding bands of men Dressed as monkeys attacking people, but you know, somehow that doesn't make sense.
Not robbing them, attacking them, breaking bones, and hurting them in various ways.
And now I think two or three are dead.
They say it's an animal.
That's what they're saying.
It's an animal of some kind.
They've got bite marks, they've got footprints, and they've got quite a few descriptions now of this whatever in the hell it is.
And we've got a photo, or at least a link to the composite photo.
You take a look and you tell me it's definitely, definitely chupacabra-like.
Check this story out.
It's by Deborah Smith, science writer.
Repairing the hole in the ozone.
Well, the headline is, ozone hole repairs could see life expectancy drop to 30.
In other words, none of us would get any older than 30 years of age.
In other words, I'm already dead.
Repairing the hole in the ozone layer could trigger an environmental catastrophe that would reduce life expectancy to 30 years, says the editor-in-chief of one of the world's leading science magazines, new scientist.
Dr. Alan Anderson, who is in Sydney for National Science Week, predicted that by 2070, rich people could be forced to live in city-sized domes to escape air pollution.
Elsewhere, smog would make asthma the leading killer of all young people, and countries such as Russia would be devastated by famine as poisoned crops failed.
Gosh, the news just gets better and better.
He said the cause would be a hydroxyl holocaust.
Plummeting levels of a molecule in the atmosphere that very few people have ever heard of called a hydroxyl radical, which has a vital role in mopping up pollutants.
Well, I've heard about it.
Hydroxyl levels began to drop as the world produced more smog, but they rose again during the 1980s.
The growing hole in the ozone layer allowed more UV light, which stimulated the production of more hydroxyl.
Dr. Anderson said, if the ozone hole was repaired, hydroxyl levels would be expected to decline dramatically, and the world would joke in smog.
The world would joke in smog.
The prediction was one of three doomsday scenarios discussed at an environmental roadshow presented by the magazine in Sydney last night with the assistance of Australian experts.
So there you are from a very prestigious science magazine.
Now, I have seen movies, and I'm sure you have too, typically set about 2070 in a world where people are choking, and as it points out in here, the rich are living in little environmental bubbles to shield themselves from the dilapidated, smog, poison-infested world that they're now forced to live in.
I've seen it in the movies, but I've never heard it from a publication as prestigious as this.
Can you imagine that as a future?
Everybody having to wear some sort of oxygen mask who's in the outside?
And if you wanted to live normally, you'd have to live in a bubble like the bubble boy.
You think that's in our future?
Wonder what happened to Atlantis anyway.
2,200 feet down, that's almost half a mile down, that's virtually impossible unless it is Atlantis.
unidentified
The trip back in time continues with Art Bell hosting Coast to Coast AM.
More somewhere in time coming up.
Travel the world and the seven seas.
Everybody is looking for something.
Some of them want to use you.
Some of them want to get used by you.
Some of them want to abuse you.
Riders of the stars.
art bell
Riders of the star.
Into this house we're born.
unidentified
Into this world we're throwing.
art bell
Like a dog without a bone.
Riders on the star.
unidentified
There's a killer of the road.
art bell
His brain is working like a dog.
unidentified
Take it out of day.
Let your children play.
Premier Networks presents Art Bell somewhere in time.
Tonight featuring Coast to Coast AM from the 8th, 2001.
art bell
Back up on the website right now, top of what's new is the lost city off western Cubis.
You can read the story yourself.
But you heard National Geographic confirm it A little earlier.
Oh, that was some conversation.
And if you have to, go back to the archives later and listen again to the way those questions are answered.
bear in mind that at one point there was those time when it was on for thirty minutes while this of a very nice lady consulted with somebody or another in the background and i i certainly don't want to blow any sources for linda but i mean you just you know that in the background it was like We have a reporter on the line.
What do we tell her?
There was sort of hoping the story would fall into a black hole, I think, 2,200 feet deep.
Anyway, we'll stay on it.
You've got about 30 minutes now to guess what it is that I'm holding in my hand on my webcam photo.
About 30 minutes.
Then after that, I'm going to show you my target, show you how I did today.
I'm so proud of that.
From various ranges.
All right, lots to do tonight.
We're going to have a possessed person line and a timeline.
That means time travelers.
In fact, let us define both categories right now.
A possessed person line would mean somebody really possessed.
I mean, if you're going to cause a possessed person, I expect to hear your possessor.
I want to hear the unreal you.
That would be a possessed person.
And a timeline, of course.
My enduring interest in time travel.
In fact, I've got a story here that I'll follow up on for you with regard to time travel.
So many interesting things.
I'm trying to get hold of them right now.
It's Dr. Ronald L. Mellett, a professor of theoretical physics at the University of Connecticut, is working on a device for time travel, along with other scientists at Connecticut.
Connecticut, you, that is, Dr. Mellett, was recently invited to speak at the University of Michigan by astrophysicist Dr. Fred Adams, who's been quoted as saying, see below, Dr. Mellet's resolution or solution to time travel is probably valid.
So I'm going to be talking.
In fact, any of you know Dr. Mallet, please tell him I'm trying to contact him.
I do have a number and I'm going to be pursuing this next week.
Anybody with a time machine or a solution to time travel, I want to talk to.
So Dr. Mallet at the University of Connecticut, I would like to talk to you.
Anyway, we're going to have a timeline.
Now, this timeline simply suggests that people who, in other words, that time travel inevitably is going to come to pass, I believe, Dr. Mallet or otherwise.
And if it is, it may mean many things.
One, that there are visitors here now in our time from other times.
That certainly would be one.
And two, that they may be traveling back on various missions because if you could move into the past, you could change something.
And if you changed something, everything else after it might change.
Given to those strange memories that a lot of people have about the way things were.
Like Streisand, the way we were, right?
We just, we don't know it because we're the way we are now.
So, two lines.
One, a truly possessed person exhibiting their possessor's personality and voice.
And or time travelers.
Real hardware time travelers.
Not people who travel in their mind, but people who travel with devices.
Speaking of devices, we've got one up on the website.
Pretty interesting stuff, actually.
Photographs of a time machine from John the Time Traveler.
Take a look and let me know what you think.
So, our first time, here's the deal.
Our first time caller line, area code 775-727-1222 is hereby restricted.
Restricted.
Do not use it unless you are a possessed person in action or a time traveler willing to spill his or her guts.
Because we know you're out there.
unidentified
We know you're out there.
Now, we take you back to the past on Art Bell Somewhere in Time.
art bell
Art Bell All right, we are going to reserve that line away for one of those two categories, what normally is the first-time caller line.
Otherwise, open lines, anything you want to talk about is fair game on the other lines.
And I'll sort of drop other things in as I come upon them, but you've got to admit, we've got some pretty good stuff here.
Oh, there was a fellow apparently a teacher, apparently fired, a college teacher, professor, fired for teaching his class about the phase on Mars.
The face on Mars.
Now, I'm not going to jump on this story yet.
I want to talk to some people before I do, including perhaps the man himself, so that I can really understand what's behind this.
But it would appear as though a man has been fired ostensibly for teaching his students about the face on Mars.
We will follow up on that story.
So much going on.
Wildcard line, you are on the air.
Hello?
unidentified
Oh, my God.
I don't believe this.
art bell
Believe it.
I pushed your button.
unidentified
I love you so much.
I'm telling you, you are my hero.
Hey, I was wondering, I just wanted to ask a question.
art bell
Sure.
unidentified
I wondered, have you ever had Richard Bach on your show?
art bell
Richard Who?
unidentified
Richard Bach that wrote Illusions, Tales of a Reluctant Messiah, also Jonathan Livingston Seagull.
art bell
No, I've not had him on.
And you're on a cell phone and breaking up terribly.
unidentified
Okay, I'm out of Virginia here, and I love you, man, so take care.
Okay, Richard Bach, go on some.
art bell
All right, all right.
Thank you very much.
You know, do you hear how bad that is?
They dare to call that communications?
I mean, where you've got a strain to hear it's breaking up.
unidentified
It's coming from the bottom of the sea.
2,200 feet down.
art bell
Come on, someone out there.
Damn it.
Make a decent cell phone.
Why don't you?
East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hello.
unidentified
Hi.
art bell
Hi.
unidentified
This is Deborah.
art bell
Hello, Deborah.
Turn your radio off.
unidentified
Yep.
art bell
Yep, there we go.
Good.
Where are you?
unidentified
Indianapolis, WIBC 1070.
art bell
Indeed.
unidentified
A couple of things.
First, I just cannot see anybody in Florida voting for Janet Reno after she and her stormtroopers went in there after that little boy.
art bell
Well, I mean, you're not going to get a big Cuban vote.
No, there's no question about that.
unidentified
And I do think that that could swing it.
art bell
It could swing it, yes.
unidentified
Yeah, and the other thing, Richard Bach, the gentleman was just speaking of, part of what he wrote about is traveling in time to meet his own child self.
So I think that might be why he was mentioning Richard Bach.
art bell
Well, there is an interesting concept, huh?
unidentified
Very, very good books.
art bell
I really am becoming more and more convinced that time travel is that we're actually on the edge of it now, and that obviously if that's true, then there are time travelers shortly.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
And I do believe that time has been changing.
It is shortening and shortening and shortening.
And pretty soon we're going to have Christmas right after Christmas.
art bell
You know, that would be a world-ender.
I can barely stand Christmas once a year.
It begins now immediately after Thanksgiving.
And to have to endure that forevermore.
unidentified
There's times I've seen Christmas displays up right after school starts.
art bell
Well, you're right, Dennis.
unidentified
You can say the Midwest is behind the times.
No way.
We leave them off.
art bell
I hear you.
Thank you.
unidentified
Thank you.
art bell
Take care.
Yeah, she's right.
But can you imagine?
It's awful enough when Christmas begins.
I managed to get in the spirit of it maybe a few days before the real thing arrives.
But the commercialism, not that I'm exempt from that since I'm sure I feed it to you.
I'm a perpetrator of it.
And maybe that, actually, maybe that accounts for why it affects me so heavily.
But I know it affects all of you too.
And you go, oh, geez, here it comes.
But it's like one of those things you have to do in life.
Imagine if it narrowed down to where that's all there was.
Nothing but Christmases and lead-ups to it.
First-time caller line.
The retailers would like that, I guess.
First-time caller line, actually my unusual phenomena line.
You're on the air.
unidentified
How you doing, huh?
art bell
All right.
Are you either a possessed person or a time traveler?
unidentified
Time traveler.
art bell
You're a time traveler.
unidentified
Yes, sir.
art bell
All right.
unidentified
And a willing one.
art bell
An unwilling one.
unidentified
Unwilling.
art bell
So that makes you kind of like a time slave.
unidentified
Well, it's kind of a weird deal.
art bell
Well, okay, let's hear it.
unidentified
I'm a little bit nervous here, so.
art bell
It's all right.
unidentified
I'm going to fly through the story.
art bell
Nervousness is timeless.
unidentified
That's true.
I want to fly through the story.
If you want details, you ask.
art bell
All right.
I'll feel free to interrupt, so go ahead.
unidentified
Back in the year 23, forward to the year, I get screwed up.
art bell
I understand.
unidentified
For the year 2374, I was a 19-18-year-old, and I was working as a maintenance guy at a university.
art bell
All right.
unidentified
And my buddy, an older guy than I was, a good friend of mine, was a technician there, you know, working on stuff.
art bell
Yes.
unidentified
Working on time travel.
art bell
Probably in conjunction with some professor at the university, I would imagine.
unidentified
Correct.
art bell
Yep.
Okay.
unidentified
He was working on it.
And they never had it perfected yet.
art bell
What is your first name?
Oh, John?
unidentified
Chuck.
art bell
Chuck.
Oh, in other words, it doesn't matter.
unidentified
It doesn't matter.
art bell
All right, Chuck.
Chuck's.
unidentified
I don't want to be found.
art bell
Oh, I understand.
unidentified
Like you said before.
art bell
You know, I have this feeling, Chuck, that I know where the story is going.
Can I guess?
unidentified
Go ahead.
art bell
All right, my guess is going to be that you got roped in by your buddy to test complete accident.
unidentified
I'm from the future, from the past.
What do you mean?
Okay, as this time travel deal goes on, they had the thing working, they had things going on, and stuff would slow down when you speed up time, and stuff would speed up when you slow down time and all that garbage.
Yep.
All right.
Well, we're screwing around lunchtime one day.
I got in there, and he started messing around.
He thought he'd speed it up and see me slow down.
It was like a telephone booth type box.
understand yes nothing i know They just working on it.
Next thing I know, I'm out in the middle of a wilderness.
I didn't know where I was.
I didn't know nothing.
art bell
You mean you're in a in a lab one moment and then in the next moment you're.
unidentified
Just like that.
I'm out in the woods.
art bell
The woods.
unidentified
Had no idea where I was.
art bell
Tropical, semi-tropical, what?
unidentified
The same thing where I was.
art bell
It's like northern U.S. Okay, so you're just no longer in a building.
You're there before.
unidentified
I'm just out in the middle of the wilderness.
art bell
Gotcha.
unidentified
So I didn't know what was going on.
I'm looking around.
Holy mackerel.
I don't know what's happening here.
So it took me a day, about a day, I guess, to figure out what's going on.
And so I started figuring out I've got to find something going on.
So I started, I can't walk in circles, so I followed east where the sun comes up.
So I've traveled for, well, three weeks, I guess, walking through the woods.
Three weeks?
Three weeks.
Roughly.
Two and a half, three weeks.
art bell
That's like Survivor.
How did you stay alive?
I mean, what did you have with you?
unidentified
Nothing.
So then I was wearing when I went into the boat.
art bell
Okay, fine, fine, fine.
What did you eat?
unidentified
Just stuff.
Fish I caught under rocks and streams.
art bell
This is like Survivor, all right.
unidentified
And stuff like that.
art bell
My God.
unidentified
I ran across Native Americans.
art bell
Native Americans.
unidentified
Two different groups of them.
I avoided them.
I stayed away from them.
art bell
Probably a good idea.
unidentified
Yep.
And I finally made it to the ocean, which I figured must be the Atlantic Ocean.
art bell
Good guess.
unidentified
It was.
art bell
You were going east, so good guess.
unidentified
It took me about two and a half, three weeks to get there.
I headed south along the shoreline.
art bell
And where do you figure you arrived at the Atlantic Ocean at?
unidentified
I ran into the first Americans.
art bell
What do you mean, the first Americans?
unidentified
First Americans.
art bell
How first?
unidentified
Like, I found out after I mixed in with them, I was in the year 1556.
art bell
Wow.
And listen, how were you dressed?
unidentified
Well, by that time, I had nothing left in my clothes.
I mean, they were all ripped to shreds.
Yeah, I got them for a few weeks out in the middle of nowhere.
art bell
So here you are, this waif finally dragging his butt in after three weeks of barely surviving.
unidentified
I didn't even show up to them, first of all.
art bell
You're running into the early Americans.
unidentified
Yep, I didn't even run into them, first of all.
Well, how I got in mixed it with them, that's I mean, it was a deal.
It's a guy out with his wife and kid living farming out.
Anyway, how it came to be, it was the year 1556.
And I've been living here ever since.
I'm going to eventually catch myself, I think.
art bell
Wait a minute.
Are you, well, what year are you in now?
unidentified
Right now.
Well, what are we in?
Or 2001?
art bell
2001.
How did you get from there to here?
unidentified
Okay, here's the details.
Part of them.
In the year 2300, where I came from, genetic engineering, all that, people live to be 700, 800, 900 years old.
Which I'm going to be, hopefully.
And if I live that long, knock on wood, I'll see myself before I get into the machine.
art bell
What can kill you?
unidentified
Normal stuff like you, disease, anything.
It's just.
art bell
Well, I know, but if you can live to be 800 or 900 years old, there must be a number of things that no longer kill you.
unidentified
Oh, I'm sure.
I don't know.
I was 18, 19 years old at the time.
It's all this, like right now it's starting with the genetic engineering stuff.
art bell
Oh, it is, yes.
unidentified
Yeah, right.
Well, that's what's happening.
art bell
But still, we must be the almost nauseating past for you compared to where you were.
unidentified
I mean, it's like all this stuff, like you see the space shuttle blow up in, you know, 86 and all this stuff.
I mean, all these history.
But you never experienced it.
art bell
That's interesting.
All right.
Well, anyway, well, I don't have much time.
So how did you get from that old time to here?
To this time?
unidentified
Well, I'll tell you, one time I almost got killed as a vampire.
art bell
Well, don't tell me about that.
Tell me how you got here.
I don't have much time.
unidentified
Well, I got transferred from the machine back to 1556, and I just lived my life.
I've been living like this from 1556 till now.
Oh, I'm sorry.
art bell
i didn't get it right away so in other words you already must be I've got to be 400-some years old.
Oh.
You really sound fit for 400-plus.
unidentified
I probably look like I'm 50.
art bell
Do you?
unidentified
Mr. 40, 50, I don't know.
art bell
That's superb.
Listen, I got to run.
Thank you.
Yeah, take care.
unidentified
Roll the stone and do the right.
Wow.
I need to find a handful of room.
art bell
400 years old.
unidentified
I used to be your heart for long for the time to turn.
art bell
What do you say, folks?
Thumbs up or thumbs down.
We'll be right back.
unidentified
You're listening to Art Bell somewhere in time.
Tonight featuring Coast to Coast AM from the 18th of May, 2001.
On the day that I was born, I went to life.
Then the drop of fear took me knee high to a man.
Give me peace all night, my daddy never had.
The end of the day that I was born, I went to life.
On trouble is dry.
I don't know the way you look, you like.
News is blue.
I don't know where you can get to you.
What can I do?
What can I do?
I don't remember my time with you.
Yeah.
Now, we take you back to the past on Art Bell Somewhere in Time.
art bell
Well, hang on to your seats.
I just have this feeling about tonight.
I don't know exactly what it is, but I know it's going to be strange.
unidentified
I don't know exactly what it is.
You're listening to Art Bell Somewhere in Time.
Tonight featuring Coast to Coast AM from the 18th of May, 2001.
Coast to Coast AM All right.
art bell
I told you an hour ago, I gave you an hour to look at what's on my webcam and to register a guest with me.
Well, a lot of you got it right.
A lot of you got it right amazingly.
What it is, for those who don't have a computer, is a little jar, a clear jar with a white cap, and inside this little tiny jar is this wooden thing.
And it's clearly quite well done, actually.
It's a tiny stool.
It has three legs, three wooden legs, and a tabletop.
It's a little stool.
And so what I'm holding in my hand was sent to me by a listener, and it is unique in the world in its own little way, actually.
Well, let's see.
Let's give credit to Lewis Hobbs out there somewhere.
Thanks.
Oh, Lewis in Sioux Falls, South Dakota.
A lot of other people got it right.
I just went to the first person who got it right.
And Lewis says, it looks like a miniature stool in a specimen jar.
A stool sample.
Very poor taste, but funny.
That's right.
That's exactly what it is.
It's a stool sample.
You have a few more minutes to look at it.
It's a stool sample.
What a dumb thing, huh?
But when you look at it, you go, that's kind of cool.
Anyway, a stool sample.
And a little later this hour, I am going to brag about my day on the range qualifying by showing you my target.
Yes, my target.
So I'm going to get that up there on the webcam too, maybe in a half hour.
Right now, back to the phone lines.
First time caller line, you, not first time caller line, anomalous line, I guess we'll call it, possessed or timeline, whatever, you're on the air.
unidentified
Hello.
Hello.
Hello, this is Elvis Presley.
art bell
This is Elvis Presley?
unidentified
That's right.
This is Elvis Presley.
art bell
The Elvis Presley?
unidentified
You know, I don't want you to get the wrong idea because a lot of people say I'm still alive.
I'm not alive.
Okay, I'm dead.
art bell
Well, you are dead.
Well, a lot of us thought you were dead.
unidentified
Right, well.
art bell
Not all of us.
unidentified
There's a lot of crazies out here that say they're seeing me in liquor stores and Kentucky Fried Chickens, you know.
art bell
are they?
I mean, don't you have to eat?
unidentified
You know, basically, I've been just hanging out on the sidelines going back to some of my old haunts.
And I was actually in Vegas.
I was in Vegas last August.
art bell
And I was checking out this kid who was working at one of the in Vegas, so you could sort of go, I wouldn't say unnoticed, but certainly nobody would raise their eyebrows too high there in Vegas.
Right, well.
unidentified
Basically, I found this kid.
He must be like 24, 25 years old.
And he was different than some of the other impersonators I've seen.
He had a kind of a special magic about him.
And he also seemed like he was only alive when he was on stage, you know?
And I really could identify with that.
art bell
And that's why you took his body.
unidentified
Right, right.
Actually, I approached him in the bar after the end of his performance, and I just, you know, I asked him point blank, do you know who I am?
art bell
Did he?
unidentified
That was it, man.
He didn't have time to answer.
art bell
In other words, you had him at that point?
unidentified
I was inside.
art bell
Inside, already.
unidentified
All I have to do is address him.
art bell
As a matter of curiosity, since you did die, why are you wanting to be back here in physical form?
unidentified
Well, you know, there's a lot of reasons for that.
Frankly, I'd just like to say, first of all, I really never finished with this world, you know?
And so I've always been kind of...
art bell
But, I mean, it was really, according to everything we know, your own hand that did it.
Your own hand-to-mouth, hand-to-mouth drugs.
unidentified
Well, there were a lot of lies about you.
art bell
A lot of food.
unidentified
There were a lot of lies about me, too.
art bell
This is such an unusual opportunity.
I don't get alphas often.
I have to ask you a special question.
unidentified
Yes, sir.
What is it?
art bell
I hope you won't mind your music.
unidentified
Okay.
art bell
You've done a lot of things that I like, but there's one that you've done that I would like to understand.
unidentified
Yeah, go ahead.
art bell
And having you online here, it's this one.
Listen to the words.
my favorite.
unidentified
My real friend came by today, cause he was telling everyone in town, of the love that he just found, and the reason made, of his latest friend.
He talked and talked, and I heard him say, that she had the longest, whitest hair, the prettiest green eyes anywhere, and the reason made, of his latest friend.
art bell
One of the most unusual records you ever sang, in my opinion, and I would like to understand a little bit about it.
Is there anything you can tell me about that record that will give me some depth of understanding about why you sang it?
unidentified
Well, you know, I gotta confess something here, man.
Sometimes there's some deep meanings I put in those songs.
art bell
I recognize that.
unidentified
Like, like in the ghetto.
In the ghetto, I was really singing about, you know, a condition that I think has only worsened.
Only worsened since I passed.
With that particular song, I actually was written by someone else, you know?
And so, I gotta tell you, man, I didn't look too much into lyrics.
What do you think about them?
art bell
Well, I don't know.
I've been trying.
That's why I'm asking.
mean i you know if you got elvis you ask right as they're getting surely you must know what this Well, the green eyes actually were about a particular person.
Marie?
thank you guys i guess i could hope for more information of us but i i i i I'll give you some information.
unidentified
All right.
I started performing again when I met this kid.
Because this kid, like I said, he had the look, and he had the, you know, in a way about him.
It was also pretty easy to take over the vocal cords, if you know what I'm saying.
Yeah.
art bell
I understand.
There's the obvious resemblance, yeah.
unidentified
And I'm still performing.
I'm performing now again, man, under the name Extreme Elvis, man.
Extreme Elvis.
I'm in San Francisco.
I've been doing some of the hotels.
I've been doing some of the clubs out here.
art bell
What about the ethical aspect of taking over this poor young fellow?
unidentified
Well, you know, I think some people are weak, you know?
Like, for instance, the people that didn't make it.
You know, I was the one who made it, man.
I was the king of rock and roll.
You know what I'm saying?
art bell
That's why they called you the king, all right?
unidentified
I think some people are weak.
art bell
King needs a body, takes a body.
unidentified
And I think this, I think, yeah, that's right.
I mean, I think this kid was weak, and I took him over.
art bell
All right, well, I'm straight on that, and I appreciate your call, and it's not every day that you get to talk to Achille to Elves.
But I don't know about the body thing.
Doesn't seem right.
Not unless he's in there enjoying.
Wildcard line, you're on the air.
Hello?
Art.
Yes.
unidentified
Arpell.
art bell
Yes.
unidentified
Is it really you?
art bell
This really is me.
What have I got now?
It is about time you answered my call.
You're a possessed person, aren't you?
unidentified
How did you tell?
art bell
I can hear it in your voice.
unidentified
There's a.
Part.
You really are as far as I thought you might be.
Excuse me.
I've always loved your laugh.
art bell
It reminds me of my own.
Oh, my God, no.
However, your laugh has quality.
So has mine.
So you can actually have a sense of humor then having possessed this poor person, whoever this person is.
unidentified
Actually, he's a very good person.
He would have liked to talk to you.
All these phonies on the radio elbows.
Some 400-year-old guy.
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha Oh, God, I can't go on with this.
Laugh.
art bell
Give me that laugh one more time.
unidentified
Yes.
Seriously, let's get to business.
art bell
My host has a few questions for you.
Yes, you're a host.
unidentified
Hold on.
Hold on.
Hello?
art bell
Yes, hello there.
Oh, I see that regurgitation was you returning.
unidentified
Is this art?
It is.
art bell
Yes, it is.
unidentified
You're kidding.
art bell
No, no.
unidentified
You're pulling my leg.
art bell
I wouldn't pull your leg.
Your buddy got you on the air.
Now here you are.
unidentified
I've been trying to get a hold of you.
art bell
I guess I should officially inform you that you're on the air since you might not be aware of that.
unidentified
I spent a lot of time with that last guy, so I thought you might have a couple seconds.
I got you, though.
art bell
I might.
I might.
unidentified
Well, actually, I've been very privileged in my life.
I'm 26 years old.
I just got married last summer, August 5th.
art bell
Does your wife know that there's two of you?
unidentified
Actually, I'm upstairs, and it depends on if she's awake or not, if the other side will show itself.
Only at night when I'm up late listening to you.
art bell
Really?
unidentified
Yeah.
I'm calling all the way from Canada.
art bell
I can tell that too, but when your other self does show, does your wife get to see it and experience it?
unidentified
I don't think she ever has, and if she has, she hasn't told me in this form.
art bell
Well, it may be just as well for you.
unidentified
Well, probably.
But I didn't call you about marriage counseling art.
art bell
Do me a favor and laugh.
unidentified
Let me hear you form.
art bell
Sounds like a normal, almost normal laugh to me anyway.
All right, good.
All right, so you called for a special reason, right?
You betcha.
What is it?
unidentified
Well, I've been privileged in my life to live in several places, the Middle East.
I've been to the Caribbean to visit my folks where they live.
And I've seen several UFOs.
The earliest was when I was about five in Main Island, BC, on the Gulf Islands between Vancouver Island and Vancouver, the lower mainland, and Victoria, where I heard one of my fellow Canadians call in about the chemtrails, which a friend of mine, Rory, phoned, or I talked to him shortly after, and he says he's seen them several times, and they're still doing it.
art bell
We all know.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And I'm always talking and spreading the word to coffee talk around the coffee shop where I work.
art bell
You mean about chemtrails?
unidentified
About basically what was on last night on Art Bell Art.
I'm a big-time fan.
You know, my buddies Paul and Richard are hopefully listening right now.
art bell
Are you referring to Robert Bigelow last night?
unidentified
Anything the night before is what we talk about at work art.
art bell
Oh, I see.
well, that is very flattering.
I appreciate it.
We're going to have to move on.
Thank you.
And I don't know if I ever care to meet your other self again.
A spirit with a laugh like that.
Don't ever give up your body to anybody with a laugh like that.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hello.
unidentified
Yes.
I'm David.
I'm from South Carolina.
art bell
South Carolina?
Yes.
unidentified
Yes, and I can predict earthquakes through a series of frequency ear tones.
art bell
Wait a minute.
Frequency ear tones?
unidentified
Yes.
art bell
You mean a sort of a tinnitus condition?
unidentified
No.
art bell
Isn't that what they call it when you hear tones?
unidentified
It's not in a tone that is usual that you would get from a change in air pressure or just like a tone that you would get.
art bell
All right.
Well, then.
unidentified
It's kind of hard to explain, but it's.
art bell
That's okay, sir.
What do your tones tell you?
unidentified
Well, basically, the tones will come and within the area of usually 10 to 12 days.
art bell
There'll be a big burst.
unidentified
There will be an earthquake magnitude plus 4, 8.
art bell
Wait, how big?
unidentified
4, 8, or above.
art bell
4, 8.
unidentified
The problem that I have is there's no way, and I've been trying as hard as I can to get a formulation through the length of the tone to get an area or longitude or latitudal area upon a globe.
I understand the other things.
art bell
I understand the other things.
And I've been able to do that.
All right, but how loud are your tones coming to you right now?
unidentified
I don't have any tones right now.
I had some earlier past week.
art bell
Right, how strong.
unidentified
We had some series of small earthquakes for and above.
art bell
I know.
I was just about to comment on that.
If people look at the recent earthquake map, it's really pretty freaky.
Something's about to happen.
Well, a lot of people feel it.
unidentified
The only thing I have success.
I'm writing these down in a log that I have.
art bell
Yes.
unidentified
And I've been successful for over a year.
art bell
All right.
Well, before, if you have a specific, here's what I want you to do.
If you have a specific prediction to make, as a result of your tones, make it and mail it to me before whatever it is happens, happens.
Having said that, I talk to people in all kinds of disciplines who have been watching the pattern of earthquakes lately and the lack of earthquakes in some other important areas.
And they seem to agree that the West Coast is due for a shake pretty quick.
So we'll take your tone report and put that on the pile.
West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hello.
unidentified
Hello?
art bell
Hi.
Oh, hello.
unidentified
You're on to me now.
art bell
I'm on to you now.
unidentified
Hello, this is John from Alberta.
art bell
Yes, John.
unidentified
And I've been listening to your show, I would say, for many, many years.
I used to move rigs around and did a lot of driving at night, so.
art bell
Talk radio is good company.
unidentified
Oh, yes, you were the best company a person could ever have, all alone traveling through the bush.
art bell
Thank you.
unidentified
But that's not the reason why I called.
About a year and a half ago, I came up with a little invention that I believe will break or open up some of the barriers between communicating with extraterrestrials that are presently monitoring this planet.
art bell
You're saying you have virtually a transceiver or something equivalent to a transceiver so that you can actually talk to aliens?
unidentified
No, it's not a transceiver to actually talk to them.
It is a signal, a device that will let them know, without a doubt, if you're ready for contact with them or not.
art bell
Okay, sort of a contact beacon then.
unidentified
Yeah, in a sense, yes.
art bell
Okay.
unidentified
But it is like everybody has always been wondering, you know, are there flying saucers?
Are there extraterrestrials visiting Earth?
art bell
Of course.
You know, though, I see some problems with what you're doing.
Okay.
And here it is.
I haven't fully made up my mind yet whether the aliens, Heinz 57 varieties, some people say, are more good than bad or more bad than good.
And if your beacon should get activated, well, for example, I wouldn't run it at night, not all night.
You've got to remember, after all, that whoever recognizes your beacon and recognizes this is a place and a time to contact, I mean, anything could happen to you.
I know you've heard the stories.
We're talking long needles, probes in places that you don't want probed, mind washes.
We're talking all kinds of possibilities that could occur to you.
unidentified
Oh, yes, we are.
But then you have to remember, again, like to coin a phrase, a friend of mine once said, we, being humans living on Earth, have no choice but to think in human logic.
Because we're humans.
Now, the nearest star is, what, 100 million light years away?
Well, somewhere thereabouts.
art bell
Alpha Centauri, actually, yes.
unidentified
Yeah, okay.
art bell
Not that far.
unidentified
Well, no, not that far if you can handle space travel.
But the way I see it is that had they wanting to be bad or destroy us, we would have been gone Long ago.
art bell
Perhaps, but that was before the beacon.
Now you've got a beacon.
So if they really can travel these distances, what hope do you really have that they would think of you in any way more than I don't know, you know, a monkey that can do tricks?
unidentified
Okay, let me explain this to you.
art bell
Or a potato chip.
Or any number of possibilities.
unidentified
It is not a beacon.
In a sense, it is a beacon, but in another sense, it is not a beacon.
It is not a device to promote individual contact in places of habitation.
Like if you put one up somewhere where it can be seen from the sky, it's not a signal for them to come down and contact you.
Which is, I think, one of the major reasons why they're not coming down right now.
We are a very young race.
art bell
I know, but you still have all those considerations.
It is, in essence, a beacon, and so it may well prove to bring contact, and that contact would be with you.
unidentified
Yeah, but see, the beacon will not send any more of a light than any other light source on the planet.
art bell
All right.
Well, listen, I've got a scoot.
I know, but it's a special light source, and it's going to invite contact.
And I've got to play this, I guess, for Elvis, whose call I very much appreciate, even though I couldn't get all the info I wanted.
We'll be right back.
unidentified
The trip back in time continues with Art Bell hosting Coast to Coast AM.
more somewhere in time coming up uh...
the I tried to reach for you, but you have closed your mind.
Whatever happened to our love.
I wish I understood.
It just could face the lights.
It's just the face of the room.
So when you're near me, darling, can't you hear me?
S.O.S.
The love you gave me nothing else can save me.
S.O.S.
When you're gone, how can I even try to go on?
When you're gone, though I try, how can I carry on?
You seem so far away, though you are standing near.
You make me feel alive, but something died, I feel.
I really tried to make it out.
I wish I understood.
What happened to our love?
It's just the face of the crew.
You're listening to Art Bell, somewhere in Time, tonight featuring coast to coast a.m. from the 18th of May, 2001.
art bell
This morning you're hearing what happens when the veil is lifted, even for a few short hours.
Look, what's not coming through?
We're in open lines, and we've got the first-time caller line.
It's canceled as of tonight, except for possessed people and time travelers.
In fact, time travelers are so prolific, they're leaking through on other lines now.
Nevertheless, if you're a time traveler or a possessed person, call area code 775-727-1222.
Otherwise, do not call that line and clog it up with non-phenomena.
The other lines are open for anything you want, and as I say, we've had so many time travelers, they're actually leaking through.
Well, we'll take another leap into the veil in a moment.
unidentified
The End You're listening to Art Bell somewhere in time.
tonight featuring coast to coast a m from the eighteenth of may two thousand one Into the nighttime, once again, we go.
art bell
You're on the air.
On the phenomenal line, you're on the air.
Hello.
unidentified
Thank you for taking my call.
art bell
From when are you calling?
unidentified
I am calling from Minnesota from President Timeline, 2001.
art bell
Present what?
Oh, really?
Is this call about time in some way?
unidentified
It is.
art bell
In what way?
unidentified
Three months ago, I was fired from my job.
I was a low-level tech at the DIA.
art bell
To the Defense Intelligence Agency?
unidentified
That is correct.
We were working on unified field theory.
Really?
Yeah, I'd seen that.
art bell
And why were you fired?
unidentified
We were working on a way to use a new particle, actually what's known as a migratory particle wave.
art bell
Yes.
unidentified
A combination of particles and waves to travel, excuse me, to send signals backwards in time.
art bell
Signals.
unidentified
That's correct.
Using nanotechnology.
art bell
Nanotechnology?
In what manner would these signals arrive?
I mean, you couldn't go back, for example, to before radio.
unidentified
Exactly.
art bell
There'd be nothing for them to arrive on.
so in in what what how far back he's sending the signals for for example I'm sorry.
unidentified
The idea was to scatter the signals in hope that, and understand, of course, that some would go back and some would go forward.
art bell
Oh.
unidentified
Much like tachyons do.
art bell
What was the purpose of doing this?
unidentified
To find out whether or not we could contact our future selves and find out whether or not there was actually ever a unified theory.
art bell
Oh, pretty good idea.
Pretty good idea.
The theory of everything.
In other words, you go forward trying to get a jump on technology.
I've got you.
unidentified
So essentially, we're trying to cheat the laws of physics.
art bell
Yeah, I've got it.
I've got it.
Yeah, sure.
Jump ahead to the theory of everything.
All right.
Why were you fired?
Well, this is important work.
unidentified
The project initially started with an AI computer called Deep Thought.
art bell
Artificial intelligence.
unidentified
Exactly.
art bell
And they called it Deep Thought.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
art bell
Cute.
unidentified
Little joke that a lot of us later picked up on.
art bell
Watergate will never be gone from our society entirely.
unidentified
It will never will be.
And what we found was that there was a particle wave which we called a pillar.
Now these were leftover fuel from the Big Bang.
Now the Big Bang, of course, was the only time at any time that matter traveled faster than the speed of light.
art bell
Makes sense?
unidentified
So what we were trying to do was digitally encode peptide sequences into these pillar particle waves, or we also called them migratory particle waves.
art bell
You realize you're beginning to lose some of us here.
unidentified
Okay.
art bell
I understand the pillars of power, I think.
You know, leftover from the Big Bang.
That I can grasp, but now you're confusing me a little.
unidentified
Okay, I'll put this into an analogy.
Faster than light particle waves, objects traveling faster than the speed of light can move both forward and backwards in time.
art bell
That would absolutely make sense, yes.
unidentified
So what we did was that we digitally encoded tiny, tiny, tiny little machines with messages, essentially questions.
art bell
Right.
unidentified
And then we sent a template along with those messages so that they could rebuild the technology and send it backwards to us.
art bell
Sure.
Okay, yes, I understand all that.
I still don't get why you were fired.
unidentified
Something happened.
And we called this the paradox of 2012.
art bell
Oh, geez.
unidentified
And we hit a wall.
art bell
Yeah, I know.
unidentified
We hit a wall where essentially we started getting some information back.
Whether or not this was simply noise, natural background radiation, or whether it was actually information, we weren't certain.
The next day I came to work, I was not allowed into the building.
I was told by the security personnel there that I would receive my last check.
I was taken someplace and signed a form stating that I would not talk about this information.
Essentially, it never existed.
art bell
And if you did talk about it?
unidentified
That I could be prosecuted and that I might end up sitting in front of a federal judge in closed session, which essentially means that I would be tried and no one would ever know about it for supplying black sources.
art bell
Right.
Right.
Well, how about this then?
You're on a talk show right now that's international and you're being heard by millions of people.
So doesn't that sort of violate your clause?
unidentified
The only way that this type of information can get out is if some of us who are involved in the intelligence community, even in that low end, which I was.
art bell
Blow the whistle.
unidentified
Blow the whistle.
And we talk about these things.
And we back each other up and we say, yes, these projects are happening.
These are going on.
People are being essentially blackmailed not to talk.
Now, I wasn't, they did not hold a gun to my head.
art bell
Yeah, I've got it.
You're like another Daniel Ellsberg.
unidentified
They are very good at what they do.
However, I am very good at what I do as well.
art bell
Well, I bet you are, but have you considered the fact that they could take your scalp for this?
unidentified
I'm putting out messages.
I don't have any family, and this is my work, and I think it's important for people to hear.
art bell
Well, I do too, but I think it's at great risk, personal risk, if what you say is true.
unidentified
I have to balance my own selfish interests, of course, with what I think are more important.
art bell
You mean like life.
unidentified
Exactly.
Exactly.
art bell
Against.
Well, the information's out now.
What kind of an impact do you suppose it will have?
Isn't it, in essence, a terrible tampering with all kinds of timelines?
unidentified
See, the timeline problem, which we dealt with, we hoped would come through with the unified theory.
We thought that once we got the unified theory back, the timeline problem would be solved and they would be able to tell us, well, it isn't going to be a problem because of you fill in the blank.
So as I said before, we were hoping to sort of cheat science and get back this information.
art bell
Well, it's not exactly cheating.
I wouldn't put it that way.
But I think I've got your story, and keep us informed, will you please?
I guess you're sort of like a drifter now, a runnin' and all, right?
unidentified
Exactly.
One of the reasons why they hired me was because I don't have any familiar ties or anything like that.
art bell
Obviously they didn't screen very carefully when you got in.
unidentified
They did.
I worked for them for 15 years, but 15 years.
art bell
15 years with the DIA?
unidentified
Well, before that, NSA, and then before that, I was Army Intelligence, and then before that, you know.
art bell
Okay, I think I've got the picture, and I certainly appreciate the call.
And I do understand the concept of getting a message forward faster than time, trying to get the answer to everything virtually and bring it back here to this time, accelerating, of course, everything changing all kinds of timelines.
Incredible story.
A wildcard line?
You're on here.
Hello.
unidentified
Oh, hi, Art.
didn't know the rules of the game so yes i did call the wild card line is all are you We work till two.
You are a singer.
art bell
You're a singer?
unidentified
Yes.
Used to travel.
We might have met somewhere sometime.
But I have had a series of interesting dreams ever since a child.
But they started getting really interesting when I started seeing appliances, objects, flying cars and things.
So I started asking people in my dreams, what year is this?
art bell
Right.
unidentified
And I had some really great responses.
art bell
Frank, why?
unidentified
Well, in 2001, Because I tried to write down everything.
art bell
No, there's no way we're going to have time for anything.
How far ahead did you go?
unidentified
Okay, I went as far as 2225.
art bell
2225.
unidentified
Yeah.
art bell
How do cars look then?
unidentified
Well, if I told you at 2125, they were flying.
And they were very small, and they looked like the cars you see on TV now with kind of half electricity and half gas.
art bell
Gas, right.
unidentified
Yeah.
And there was very few van type, you know, more than two people cars.
art bell
But they were flying.
unidentified
Yeah, but the cars that were flying, this is really cool.
The ones that were flying galloped down, they had a pulley system that galloped down like a horse, and then the pulley system lifted the legs back underneath the car, and they went on the road.
It made the car able to stop on a dime.
Now, our robotics, since I've had the dreams, are coming to this technology that it can do that.
That's what's really cool.
And at the same period of time, this is, I believe, 2121, they had projection televisions.
Every room had a big screen TV in it, but it had one projection box in the middle of the room with slits in it that would send the signal to the different screens.
That was some of the technology that I saw there.
art bell
Was it like a...
unidentified
There wasn't...
There were people living in the streets.
And the people who had houses, they were very compactly set up.
art bell
So space was at a big price.
unidentified
Premium.
Yeah.
And there was the apartments.
art bell
It's like we were all turning Japanese.
unidentified
Yeah, the apartments, they were how do I put it?
art bell
Compact.
unidentified
There was common areas where there was large green TV play pit for children, video games, fountain.
Anyway.
art bell
That's probably our future.
I can see it now.
unidentified
Okay.
And then by the year 22, 25, there was hardly any cars at all.
But the one car I did see in the square, it had an odometer on the license plate, like it was counting time or counting something, like it was at a premium.
art bell
Wow.
So a time-traveling vehicle, really, is what you were seeing.
unidentified
Well, I don't think so.
No, because, you know, I was in, I had first appeared in a place that had, like, been burnt or something, and there was a female police officer with a scanner type thing like you see on Star Trek.
And she was searching for an identification signature.
And when I went to the cafe and sat down and talked to a couple men, they said, don't you have an identification tag?
And I said, well, no, I don't.
I'm from the year, blah, blah, blah.
What year is this?
And, you know, they look at each other really strange in my dreams, you know.
You don't have an identification tag?
By that time, everybody had an identification tag.
art bell
You're right.
Do you tell a lot of people about this?
unidentified
No, nobody will listen to me, but that's okay.
These are dreams.
These are night dreams.
But my visions are what I worry about.
They've all come true.
And the one that hasn't come true yet, you want to hear about that?
art bell
Possibly.
unidentified
Okay.
I've got the timeline down.
My visions are usually two years.
Okay?
art bell
Now, if you're 100% before this, then I guess I want to.
unidentified
I can give you as close as I possibly can.
And no one human being knows the exact date.
art bell
Right.
What is it we're talking about?
unidentified
Okay, we're talking about a rocket that comes out of Iraq.
And two Patriot rockets that try to stop it.
And there's a Scud missile that comes from the north that doesn't stop it either.
And it keeps going.
And it's a guided missile.
art bell
And.
unidentified
And Hillary Clinton sitting at a computer in New York.
This is before I even knew she was running for office when I had this vision.
You know, it was a continuing vision, so I knew it hadn't happened yet.
And, yeah, there's nuclear fallout over the Western Hemisphere.
art bell
Oh, brother.
unidentified
Yeah, and we need to go where the rolling hills and the air is clear.
It was very important.
Let me see.
I've been contacted by the future since I've been a child.
art bell
Right.
unidentified
And so everything that's happened so far into my life, I only know it to this point in time.
art bell
But all your previous visions have come true.
unidentified
All of them.
art bell
So you fully expect this one to come true?
unidentified
Yes.
It hasn't happened yet.
art bell
Well, that's pretty dismal stuff.
I'm sorry.
All right.
Hey, it's all right.
What are you going to do?
unidentified
What am I going to do?
art bell
Yes.
I mean, what are you going to do?
unidentified
I can't afford to do anything.
art bell
So you're just going to go out and greet it?
unidentified
Huh?
art bell
Open your arms?
unidentified
No, I know my predesignated spot.
I know where I'm supposed to be.
art bell
You're supposed to be there.
In order to be safe, you mean?
unidentified
Yeah.
I know where I'm supposed to be.
art bell
And so if you can't afford to be there at the...
It's lights out, huh?
unidentified
No, I have faith that I will be there when it's time.
art bell
All right, well.
unidentified
Or at that time.
art bell
All right, two years.
Can you give a precise date?
unidentified
Yes, it'll be well.
It's February 11th, 2002.
art bell
Oh, brother, that's pretty soon.
unidentified
Yeah, and I can't give you like to set it an exact date.
art bell
2000.
unidentified
but it's that right, really close to that.
art bell
February 11th, 2002.
All right.
Well, I've marked that down.
All right, thank you very much.
So a missile out of Iraq.
February 11th, 2002.
Big nuke.
Obviously.
Great.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified
Mr. Bell?
art bell
Yes.
unidentified
This is Harvey calling from WREC in Memphis.
Yes.
art bell
Hello, Harvey.
unidentified
Fine, sir.
Nice to talk to you.
art bell
And to you.
unidentified
I viewed a movie earlier this evening on HBO called The 13th Floor.
art bell
Oh, I have not seen that yet.
unidentified
Well, I think you and your wife both would enjoy this movie.
It stars Armin Mueller-Stahl, the German actor.
art bell
Right.
unidentified
And he invents a computer that takes the whole 13th floor of this building.
And the unique thing about the computer Oh, I see the computer.
art bell
You mean it is a full floor of a computer.
unidentified
It has the, I gotta, I can't think of what you call them, but the, oh, wow.
The thing that holds the mental capacity.
art bell
Yes.
unidentified
They go from the floor almost to the ceiling, and there's one right there to the other.
It's these great big things, bigger than the UNIVAC thing used to be.
art bell
Memory blobs.
unidentified
Memory, right, that's it.
And what this computer does, it actually reassembles people in another time, in another place.
art bell
Time travel.
unidentified
Right.
Time travel.
art bell
Or more like the Star Trek Transporter in a way, except using the Star Trek Transporter is equivalent for time movement instead of spatial movement.
unidentified
Yes, sir.
art bell
Gotcha.
unidentified
This particular movie was so well done.
I mean, it's one of the best ones I've seen in a good while on this.
And the acting was great.
art bell
Well, why do you think they're having movies like this?
It's to prepare us.
unidentified
I think so, too.
art bell
I mean, just listen to my callers.
unidentified
Right?
art bell
So, I mean, obviously, we're being prepared for something.
And I think time travels a common.
unidentified
But this movie has got some really different turns in it.
And that's why I think it's going to say any more about it.
I'm just going to ask you to watch it and say something about it.
Would you tell me if you liked it or not?
I absolutely.
art bell
I promise you I will.
unidentified
I appreciate it.
art bell
All right, sir.
unidentified
Talk to you again.
Bye-bye.
art bell
Take care.
Oh, absolutely.
That's my kind of movie.
So, the 13th floor, huh?
A gigantic computer on the 13th floor, capable of disassembling and reassembling you in another time.
unidentified
This is Premiere Networks.
that was art bell hosting coast to coast a m on this somewhere in time the the Some people wanna fill the world with silly love songs.
And what's wrong with that?
I'd like to know.
Cause here I go again.
Every time you make up mind, she's no one's love tonight with me.
It'll be so inviting, I want her all for myself.
Oh, temptation eyes, I'm feeling through my, my, my, my, oh.
Temptation eyes, you've got to love me, you've got to love me tonight.
You've got to love me, baby, yeah.
Oh, well that innocence is just a game, we're just the same.
My head is spinning, she's got a way to keep me on her side.
It's just a ride, it's never anything tonight with me.
She'll be so exciting, I want her all for myself.
Oh, temptation eyes, I'm looking through my, my, my, my.
Premier Networks presents Art Belt Somewhere in Time.
Tonight featuring Coast to Coast AM from the 18th of May, 2001.
art bell
It's a Friday night, Saturday morning, and obviously the veil has lifted for a number of hours here, and we'll see how long it goes.
Open lines, one exception there.
The first-time caller line is canceled and devoted to possessed people.
We've not had a plethora of possessed people, but a few.
And of course, time travelers.
And we've had so many of those that they're beginning to leak over onto the other lines.
The bail is really up.
unidentified
The bail is really up.
somewhere in time with our bell continues courtesy of premier networks the Tim in Minnesota says, Art, next time someone calls with a computer in their head, please pop them a question quickly to see how fast they come up with an answer.
art bell
Maybe a history question.
You know, like on the weakest thing.
Yeah, the weakest thing.
You see Anne?
She was interviewed by Larry King.
It was pretty cool.
She is a real-life horror story.
I mean, she's like everybody's teacher, and she knows it.
I kinda like the interviewer, I think.
She'd be fun.
I like that show.
We could.
Don't you?
How many of you out there like that?
unidentified
Oh, I don't watch TV.
art bell
East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hello.
Hello?
There you are.
unidentified
I'm sorry.
I've got my headset in my ear.
I had to turn it down.
Sorry about that, guys.
art bell
Sorry.
Where are you?
unidentified
I'm in Miamisburg, Ohio.
art bell
Miamisburg, Ohio.
unidentified
All right.
I received a dog about three years ago.
I adopted him.
And he and I, you know, he and I have been together for three.
It'll be June the 2nd.
He'll be in his fourth year with us.
And he is so awesome.
I have trained him to be a guide dog.
I'm visually impaired.
I home trained him myself.
And at one point when we were just bonding and things, I said, do you want to work for mom?
And he was ecstatic.
I mean, he's a big baby, though, too.
I have three children also.
art bell
Are you telling me you communicate with your dog?
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
Yep.
You sure do.
art bell
Mentally?
unidentified
Yeah, it's really neat.
art bell
It's not spoken so much as it is just a mental communication?
unidentified
Well, you know, some of it is spoken and some of it's not, you know?
art bell
Well, you know, I'm going to have an animal communicator on pretty soon.
Yeah, pretty cool, huh?
It's not up on my own training, but I've already scheduled it.
What does a dog think about, mostly?
Or what are a dog's biggest concerns?
unidentified
Well, they want their food.
They want their loving, you know, their unconditional love from us.
Yeah.
And they want to be, I guess, pretty much treated as equals, I think.
art bell
equals you know like i think they might I mean, if they really want to be treated as equals, they've got to stop pooping on the grass.
There's a few things that have got to get done here before that's going to happen.
unidentified
Yeah, exactly.
But, you know, where that's concerned, I, you know, I'm a pickupper.
I'm always carrying a bag with me, you know, at some point.
art bell
So, I mean, you're so fast it never hits the grass, huh?
unidentified
I, you know, I reach down, you know, I feel the posture.
art bell
Well, actually, all right.
Listen, I don't want to know the details.
I can visualize it.
That's fast, all right.
I'm going to have an animal communicator on the show.
I do personally believe that it's possible to communicate with animals.
And so I suppose if she received a communication, a communication about an upcoming event, that it would be possible, knowing that ahead of time, to position the bag appropriately.
West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hello.
linda moulton howe
Hi, Art.
This is Willow.
art bell
Willow?
Oh, that's a nice name.
unidentified
I used to be up in Tumwater and call you all the time, and now I'm down in Riverside, California.
Well, I'm still here.
linda moulton howe
I'm glad you're back.
unidentified
Thank you.
I'm listening to you on my CC radio.
art bell
That's some radio, isn't it?
unidentified
Yeah, it's a hot one.
I like it.
art bell
We've got a sale on them through Monday that you probably will not see again in your lifetime.
unidentified
So I'll get another one.
art bell
Well, it's a good time.
unidentified
Do you remember when Hailbob went over?
art bell
Clearly, yes.
unidentified
Wasn't there something about some green matter being thrown down into our atmosphere that would cause some kind of a mold that would be deadly?
art bell
Fungus, yes.
unidentified
Yes.
art bell
Yes.
unidentified
And now it's happening.
art bell
Well, you've got a really good point there.
I have never heard so many fungus and mold stories in my whole life.
And in fact, who predicted that?
Ed Dames, Major Ed Dames.
unidentified
Oh, it was him.
Oh.
art bell
Yeah.
unidentified
Also, mad cow disease.
Yes.
The government is saying that we don't have it in this country.
I have a friend who has been in a coma for nine months with it.
art bell
Yeah, I'm hearing these stories all over the place.
I know.
unidentified
The hospital says that they personally know of 4,500 cases of it right now at this point.
I only know one person who has it.
art bell
Yeah, I don't know.
I don't know.
I've been hearing the same stories that you've been hearing, and I don't have an answer for you.
I hope it's not here.
If it is here, maybe I don't want to know.
unidentified
I want to tell you a story that happened to me back in the mid 80s, like early mid-80s.
art bell
Okay, real quick.
unidentified
Okay.
My daughter used to go out horse riding all the time, and she was 11, and she went, I lived in Ashland, Oregon at that time, and there was a lake way out in the wilderness, sort of, called Immigrant Lake.
And she used to go riding, take her horses out to Immigrant Lake and ride around.
There was an old, ancient, old cemetery out there.
And she came home one day and said, Mom, Mom, there was the weirdest thing.
We were riding, and there was like a little chipmunk colony, and all the animals were dead, and they were all frozen in place.
And I went out and looked, and lo and behold, they were.
There was one chipmunk had been climbing up a tree trunk, and something had startled him.
He had turned his head, and his tail was up, and he was frozen in that place.
art bell
So it was like all chipmunks turned to Salt, little salt, chipmunk pillars.
unidentified
They were frozen in place instantly, all of them.
art bell
Yep, yep, I've got it.
unidentified
And we went back.
I tried to get somebody to pay attention to it.
The college and the police and everybody, nobody even cared.
I went back two days later, and they were decayed to the point that they looked like it was like two months.
art bell
That's an ugly thought.
unidentified
Yeah, I have no idea what happened.
art bell
So pretty soon all there would be would be chipmunks, skeletons frozen in place.
unidentified
Right, but what could have happened?
A ray gun, a stun gun?
I mean, what on earth could have happened to kill them all instantly like that and then cause such rapid decay?
art bell
Star Wars?
I don't know.
I appreciate the story.
My God, frozen chipmunks.
Little pillars of chipmunks all.
Then decaying the little chipmunk skeletons.
Frozen in place, probably, with mid-stride.
Halfway up a tree.
What a horrible world that would be.
First time caller align, you're on the air.
Hello.
unidentified
Hi.
Hi, Mark.
art bell
Yes, hi.
unidentified
This is Mark from Canton, Ohio.
I listened to you on WHBC.
art bell
Yes, sir.
unidentified
And I don't time travel, but I have a contact that tells me things.
If you'd like to know a few things about the year 2095, the changes.
art bell
Oh, I absolutely would, yes, sir.
unidentified
The homes are built partly underground and partly tall.
Okay?
art bell
That would make sense.
unidentified
And the automobiles, believe it or not, they're run by oxygen power.
Now, I'm not a very technical person, so I couldn't explain it.
art bell
I've heard speeches about air-powered cars now for quite a while.
unidentified
Well, they actually have the glimmer of this now, but they're not using it for whatever reason.
Also, there's no alcohol and no tobacco.
That's been outlawed in about the year 2067.
art bell
That's why I'm going to die before that.
unidentified
Me too.
I'm a chain smoker.
And as far as, well, let me just tell you, I am.
art bell
I mean, anything you could offer at all.
unidentified
Yes.
art bell
by the way you're going to be moving to hawaii i don't know whether you've ever thought of that or not but No, you are.
unidentified
And you're going to adopt a child.
That's all I'll tell you, unless you know anything.
I don't like to tell people unless they know anything.
art bell
A girl or a boy?
unidentified
It's a little girl.
art bell
Little girl.
unidentified
And the name starts with L. And I'm picking up the name Lilani, so I don't know if that means anything to you or not, but that's downloaded.
art bell
Well, not yet.
unidentified
Yeah.
But anyway, as far as the future goes, people are offered a government subsidy to be sterilized.
art bell
How much?
unidentified
It's enough to live on.
But you have to be at least 21 years old to do this.
And welfare, as we know it.
Why?
art bell
I mean, we've got kids having kids at 12 now.
unidentified
Yeah, well, it's to kind of, you know.
And they start in the year 2052, they start every kid at fourth grade level, they have to carry around an electronic baby with them, like half the school year that cries and does all these things, and it helps a little bit.
art bell
What are you talking about?
unidentified
They're in school.
It's sort of like to keep them from having kids.
art bell
Oh, a placebo baby.
unidentified
Yeah, to let them know, you know, this is what you have to deal with.
art bell
Oh, I know, I've got it.
unidentified
I've got it.
Yeah.
Anything you want to know, you know, like I can't say, I'm a little nervous.
I've never called before.
anything that pops in your mind you want to know.
art bell
And so the little placebo baby does all the realistic things like pfft.
And it teaches these little tykes what it would be really like.
unidentified
Right, and it does help somewhat.
But the government, you know, had this, you know, voluntary sterilization, but there was a big thing about it, you know, it was very, you know, opposed.
art bell
The other thing they could do, and I'm just thinking ahead, of course, would be to make them wear this thing that would simulate a giant belly in weight and size.
unidentified
Yeah, that would work, you know.
art bell
Sure.
unidentified
Yeah.
But, yeah, I'm trying to, I can't really think anything else earth-shattering to tell you.
art bell
Well, that's funny.
That's very good.
unidentified
Yeah, but the homes are really cool.
They're like they're underground partly, and then there's also sort of like every home has sort of their built-in fallout shelter.
art bell
That makes the case fallout shelter.
So we're still worried about that then?
unidentified
Not so much, but it's more like a preventative thing.
And there's also underground gardens.
There's certain like light things that they work out that people have underground gardens.
There is like a lot of fallout towards the end, you know, around 2073.
There is some kind of a fallout, and we do lose about 29% of the population.
art bell
Oh, my God.
unidentified
And that's where they start building these homes.
art bell
And there's almost one out of three.
That's almost one out of three people in the world.
unidentified
Well, it's pretty bad.
And there's not a lot of meat eaters.
People that do eat meat grow their own animals, and it's sort of like a delicacy.
People go more towards, there's some kind of a protein-type mixed food that's real nutritional.
art bell
Oh, yummy.
unidentified
No, it isn't that good from what I understand.
But see, how I get this information is I have a twin that I was her twin and died in the future, and she was mine and died, you know.
And anyhow, it's a contact, you know.
But she shows me these things.
But the cars are actually, they're very, you know, very nice.
They're not real small or anything like that.
art bell
Do they fly?
unidentified
They had some flying cars.
They tested them.
They have them, but only certain people are allowed to.
There's rigorous testing.
You have to really go through a lot of schooling and stuff to be able to.
And you can apply.
It takes like three years to get a license for that because the people are just as reckless above as they were below.
And they're not really expensive.
It's just, you know, it's very, you know, the penalty to be caught not have license, it's very bad.
art bell
Very severe, I'm sure.
And I imagine there would be air rage, huh?
unidentified
Well, people, you know, people, as a rule, they have all the drugs that they give people, they have substituted, these psychotropic drugs, they substitute them With natural substances.
And they're special, they're enclosed where a lot of the produce is above ground.
There's no such thing as open-air farming anymore.
It's all got like a huge greenhouse type thing.
And they discovered there's a lot of poisons that's causing a lot of people's crazy behavior.
But a lot of it was a psychotrophic drug.
art bell
A lot of that is almost going on right now.
I think we're seeing the beginning of it now.
unidentified
Yeah, I mean, the food sources are very monitored now.
The people live a little longer.
The life expectancy is about 110.
And if you take good care of yourself, you can live longer.
art bell
Yeah, but all that time in such a lousy.
unidentified
Things are better in the future.
Life is a little more simpler.
art bell
It would make sense.
Certainly if you built a house down into the ground, a lot of people don't know this, but the ground temperature just three feet down is a constant temperature.
It would make all the sense in the world.
unidentified
Yeah, all the schools are underground, too.
art bell
Well, that would just make sense.
I appreciate it.
You see, from an energy perspective, if your home is underground or partially underground, you're going to have, I forget what it is, 57 degrees, I believe, is about the temperature, somewhere in there.
So you don't have to air condition very far, obviously, and nor in the summer, nor in the winter, rather, do you have to heat very much.
You're always starting off at a base point of about 57 degrees, so that would lessen the energy needs significantly.
Wildcard line, you're on the air.
Hello.
unidentified
Hello, Stephen Phoenix.
art bell
Hi, Steve.
unidentified
One man's air rage is another man's dog fight.
You know, I'm going to have nightmares now about the minted taxidermist running around the woods.
art bell
Yeah.
unidentified
Sticking little squirrels on trees.
art bell
It's a horrible mental image.
unidentified
Yeah, I'm calling from Phoenix.
We've got a bit of weather here, so I'm on a cell phone, so I'll make it real quick.
art bell
What do you mean weather?
You mean like thunder, storm?
unidentified
Thunder, lightning, rain.
Really?
You probably hear it flashing in and out.
Anyway, a couple of points you're talking about, but I'll just run through them real quick and listen on the air.
You don't have to worry about aliens unless they fail to call ahead.
We're sitting there watching, what was it, Independence Day the other day?
My son was talking about it.
art bell
Yes.
unidentified
And we figured if an alien calls ahead, he's got to be friendly.
If he doesn't call ahead, he wants the element of surprise.
art bell
Make sense?
Yes, but, you know, I think there is going to be a big difference in terms of the way the public reacts.
If they just arrive without calling ahead light years ahead, the public could, I think, swallow that.
We've been talking about that.
If we were to get a call and it was light years away, you know, it would be sort of an intellectual thing.
It would be a giant story, but mostly intellectual.
You know, we'd talk about it.
We wouldn't worry about it.
But if they suddenly were just, boom, right here, you'd get a real problem.
unidentified
Exactly my point.
They want the element surprise for a reason.
The next thing is, imagine how preserved anything from the Atlantis deepwater city must be.
2,200 feet, there's zero oxygen.
art bell
That's such an incredible story.
unidentified
The thing is, is they're finding in the Caribbean where Jacques Cousteau dove on one of the oldest wrecks, and they're pulling up wine bottles that are still sealed and preserved, and they toasted out of one of the wine bottles at one of the functions.
art bell
After hearing the story, and then hearing tonight's report from Linda Moulton Howe, you've got to begin to believe that it might just be Atlantis.
That's a half mile down in the ocean.
If it pans out, and the story obviously is real, if it pans out, we might have found Atlantis.
unidentified
But think of all the silver and gold that's not affected by the saltwater.
The absolutely perfectly preserved.
And that lady who called in about the dream, the vision.
art bell
Oh, yes.
unidentified
I've been having the same dream for about five years, and I wrote it down and had it notarized five years ago.
art bell
Which specific one?
I had a few dreams.
unidentified
Nuclear fallout across the northern hemisphere of North America, the whole nine yards, nuclear attack, failing to knock it down with a couple of missiles.
art bell
You're talking about a missile from Iraq specifically?
unidentified
It wasn't specifically Iraq, but it was that region.
And I had the whole thing notarized five years ago.
art bell
Notarized?
unidentified
I wrote it up.
It bothered me so bad, I wrote it up at my family's insistence, and I took it down and had a notary stamp it and date it.
art bell
And what did the I'm just curious what the notary said?
unidentified
She didn't read it.
She just notarized that.
art bell
Yeah, it's true.
They don't have to read the document.
They just are witnessing your signature.
unidentified
Last thing I wanted to touch on is the power industry, the local radio is reporting something about hearings going on.
Could you pull that AP wire about the 3,000 kilowatt hours last year versus over 12,000 kilowatt hours this year worth of maintenance going on or something?
Yeah.
art bell
Yeah, I know.
There's going to be hearings about that.
Absolutely.
unidentified
It's on the AP apparently because they're talking about it locally.
art bell
Listen, there's going to be power witch hunts in California.
unidentified
Okay, have a good one.
art bell
Yep, take care.
Absolute power witch hunts.
They're going to go after anybody they think has cheated anybody out of any power because they need every last kilowatt hour in California.
unidentified
You're listening to Art Bell, Somewhere in Time.
Tonight featuring Coast to Coast AM from the 18th of May, 2001.
One of the day, round about their home.
The people of the town are strange.
And the crowd are well again.
Well, you're talking about the time I've ever grown.
What you doing is fair, yeah, love.
Got me on my knees, yeah.
Dang it, darling, feel it, yeah.
Darling, won't you lose my way now.
Tried to give you consolation.
No matter what you do.
Like a fool, I fell in love with you.
You turned my whole lips around.
Baby, got me on my knees, baby.
Somewhere in time with Art Bell continued courtesy of Premier Network.
art bell
It is Friday night, Saturday morning, and the veil actually I'm now detecting has been completely eradicated.
Hard to tell how long this will go on.
But not too hard to tell how long we're going to go on.
We've got another full hour ahead of us of open line.
unidentified
Now, we take you back to the past on Art Bell Somewhere in Time.
art bell
Art Bell All right, once again, into the night we go.
West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Good morning.
larry kotlikoff
Good morning, Art.
Mike, calling from Southern California, listening to you on KFI this morning.
art bell
The mighty KFI, yes.
larry kotlikoff
I have what I deem to be quickening news for you, and I wanted to see if I could get your opinion to see if it qualifies.
art bell
You certainly may.
larry kotlikoff
I am a police officer in a major Southern California city.
I've been doing police work for 12 years now.
And the amount of mental illness or mental health difficulties with people that I have to either take and put in a 72-hour mental health hold.
art bell
You think that number is going up significantly?
larry kotlikoff
Since I came on 12 years ago, that number has tripled.
In fact, a large part of the shift, the 10-hour shift that I work, is spent on some days handling people who either want to commit suicide, who are having mental difficulties, any type of anxiety disorders, people who are on medication or not taking medication, and it's affecting their behavior.
But yeah, that amount has tripled in the last 12 years, at least as far as I'm concerned.
art bell
Or at least as we judge normality, to us, what we're calling mental illness, there is obviously some major change going on.
larry kotlikoff
True.
And knowing the events that are going on and having listened to your radio program for many years now, I can't help but think that there isn't some type of correlation, call it desolation, of people in the world, or at least people maybe over here in the land of fruit and nuts.
But there is definitely a sense amongst the people that I work with that there are more and more people who are just kind of throwing in the pow.
art bell
Well, I don't have any good argument for that.
I do think, of course, that a police officer sees a disproportionately large number of these people.
So I know that you can form that opinion, but you're telling me that in the time that you've worked, you've seen that much of an increase, huh?
larry kotlikoff
Yeah, my ship has been consumed on most on my ship is being consumed nowadays on Sundays primarily by some type of incident involving someone with a mental health problem, as opposed to 12 years ago when I first came on when it didn't seem to be as prevalent.
art bell
So we're getting crazier and crazier.
larry kotlikoff
I agree.
art bell
All right.
Well, thank you very much for the call and take care.
Actually, the figure I had always heard would really fit that bill.
I mean, I had always heard that one in four Americans, according to some psychological psychiatric organization of some sort, one in every four people could be considered to have some kind of mental illness.
Now, again, that's by their standards.
It may well be that something else is at work here, and it may well be that these people are not technically crazy.
They simply are in touch with another reality.
In other words, what you have observed, and I think accurately, is people that you perceive by your standards as being mentally ill, maybe they are.
but maybe there is some other change underway as well that accounts for what you see as mental illness first time Hello, Art.
Yes.
unidentified
Yes, hi, this is Father Jerome.
I'm calling you right now from KEX country up here in Oregon.
art bell
Yes, sir.
unidentified
And, well, I figured I would call simply because probably no one is going to believe me anyway, so I might as well tell you my story.
art bell
You're a priest.
unidentified
I am.
art bell
All right.
unidentified
I'm originally on a temporal assignment from the year 2053.
I've come back on a third Vatican expedition to record and observe what popularly you would call the Antichrist.
art bell
You are here on behalf of the Vatican?
unidentified
I am indeed.
art bell
That is some assignment.
And it relates to the Antichrist.
unidentified
It does.
It does indeed.
art bell
What are you supposed to do?
unidentified
Well, right now we are supposed to document and come back with observations recording his early life.
There has been problems later on down the line of...
art bell
You just let that slip.
So in other words, he is alive now.
unidentified
Yes, he is.
art bell
Okay.
unidentified
And, well, quite frankly, we think that if we need to step in early on, we Can change things from getting worse.
art bell
So it's a Vatican mission to literally change the, well, I almost hate to ask.
The Vatican has not ordered you to liquidate the Antichrist, type thing.
unidentified
Well, I have had instruction from Pope Pius XVI on that.
I will not refer to that now.
art bell
Well, I can read between those lines.
unidentified
We also have...
We've also found that we are able to maybe change things if we need to.
If we have to get into what's called wet work.
A wet work.
art bell
You're obviously not talking about holy water.
unidentified
I'm not talking about holy water, and there's some probably your year of government people would know exactly what I'm talking about.
art bell
Oh, I know what you're talking about.
I've heard the phrase.
It's in our popular culture here.
We know wet work.
unidentified
Yes.
art bell
And I see nothing much changes either.
unidentified
I figure I will call you up because no one is going to believe me anyways.
art bell
And, Father, when you do this, when this wet work is...
Okay.
So I'm not going to.
I'll just get in trouble.
You know, let's leave it here and see what people have to say about what you just said.
unidentified
And I will fill in one more clue for you.
art bell
One more.
unidentified
Alzheimer's, you'll find out in exactly nine years, eight months, and two days that Alzheimer's is caused by enzymes in meat stemming from mad cow disease.
You will not have to go vegetarian.
You will just have to properly condition the meat differently.
art bell
Well, that's good news.
thank you so that was he said he was a priest on assignment from the vatican in our present time Holy smokes.
Wildcard line, you're on the air.
Hello.
unidentified
Artville, it's a pleasure to speak with you today.
art bell
And to you as well, sir.
unidentified
I'd like to talk to you about time travel.
art bell
Why not?
unidentified
Well, I am currently on a trip.
I'm back from the year 2030.
twenty i was born in this year near two thousand one and then come back to uh...
Yeah, to observe my younger years that I can't remember.
art bell
That is a cool idea.
So you're actually back here seeing yourself as nothing much more than a little wrinkled-up shrub of a being.
unidentified
Well, actually, it doesn't work quite like that.
We have what we've under, back up in the year 2030, we've come to find out that the reason why you can't go back and, I have indeed, yes.
Go back, kill your grandfather, you don't exist.
Well, it doesn't work that way because you have what's called an aura effect.
It's genetic.
An aura is an energy field that surrounds our body.
art bell
All of us, yes.
unidentified
And so if you go back in history to kill your grandfather, the auras collide and the person that is displaced gets put back into his present time.
So you can't.
art bell
Bounced back, so almost bounced back.
unidentified
Yeah, almost zapped back.
art bell
Yep, okay.
unidentified
And so I'm actually about 200 miles from my boyhood person, which hasn't been born yet.
I'm here actually a little early.
art bell
And you've really got to keep your distance then.
unidentified
Yeah, I do.
I figure I'm about as close as I can get without being zap-back.
art bell
Gotcha.
What are you here?
I mean, to observe from 200 miles, what are you going to see?
unidentified
Well, I'm actually here.
I'm in the year 2030, I'm an astral historian.
art bell
I suppose you could send yourself a pacifier or something, but I mean, other than that.
unidentified
Well, I'm actually here to observe the next few years because the year 2003, 2003, is actually a big year for this world.
art bell
What is going to happen?
unidentified
Well, a lot of things happen.
First off, you talk a lot about the quickening or global warming.
art bell
Do you hear the police officer down in L.A. I just had on here?
unidentified
did and most of that is Maybe.
art bell
See, even though from his perspective, you would be already qualified for 72 hours of observation, on the other hand, you sound otherwise sane.
unidentified
Well, I come across the people I meet sane enough.
It's just when I, you know, I figure I can tell you because you're probably about the only person that can understand this.
Yes, you can tell me.
art bell
Just whisper it into my ear.
unidentified
Well, in the year 2003, we figure out that the global warming and all that's taking place because of a pole shift that's happening.
The pole shift has been happening, started 20, 30, 40 years ago, I'd imagine, and it's slowly taking place.
art bell
So we have seen the magnet, we've seen Magnetic North.
There have been several times over the last several years that my listeners have called me and said Magnetic North has moved actually as much as 12 degrees, takes little temporary jaunts, and a lot of people think it's getting ready to take the big one.
unidentified
Well, it is in about two years.
art bell
Okay.
unidentified
So the whole world's going to do a 90-degree flop here.
It's like you take the globe and you turn it clockwise 90 degrees.
And the new poles will be located in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean in Australia.
art bell
A 90-degree shift.
That's not at all good.
unidentified
No, in fact, it'll probably rip apart, it does rip apart the world pretty much.
art bell
Pretty much it would do that, yes.
unidentified
Oh, brother.
Where you live now?
art bell
Well, it's just two more years.
Two more years.
unidentified
And in the year 2030, where you live now is pretty much a tropical paradise.
art bell
That'll be a big change for this area.
unidentified
Yeah, it goes back to, you know, how lush green, lots of moisture.
Right above where you live, the state, Utah, big dinosaur place where they found dinosaurs, and that's because it used to be a tropical area.
That's what it'll go back to.
art bell
So Utah goes back to tropical, too?
unidentified
Yes, it does.
art bell
It sounds like some other areas might not fare as well, though.
unidentified
No, Australia.
Poor Australia.
art bell
what happens to australia i have a lot of australian listeners now so Oh, no.
unidentified
It basically becomes a new South Pole of the world.
art bell
Well, that doesn't leave them much hope.
unidentified
No, it doesn't.
art bell
They'd almost have to be leaving now.
unidentified
They better.
You know, it's good for them.
art bell
Are you listening down there?
All right, my friend.
unidentified
Thank you.
Okay, well, take care, Art.
art bell
Take care is right.
All right, thank you.
Bad news for the Aussies.
East of the Rockies, you are on the air.
Hello.
unidentified
Hello, Art.
Hello.
This is Dee in Atlanta.
I was listening to you on WGST, WGST, AM, and well 5.7 FM.
art bell
We're all over the place now in Atlanta.
Yes, sir.
unidentified
Just turned off my CC radio.
art bell
Thank you.
unidentified
Won't interfere.
art bell
Is that a superior radio or what?
unidentified
Absolutely.
art bell
Yes.
unidentified
Absolutely.
There's nothing that compares with it.
art bell
I know.
unidentified
I'm a security officer in the North Atlanta area.
I actually work as a police officer in a town well north of here.
art bell
Right.
unidentified
A town that doesn't want to afford their own police department, so they contract with me and several retired officers.
art bell
That makes sense.
unidentified
It's cheaper that way.
Yep.
But right now I'm very frightened.
I'm wondering if I'm not from another timeline.
There's a situation happening in California right now with a power problem.
art bell
There is indeed.
unidentified
Mainly, it appears that they just basically haven't built their own power plants for the last 30 years.
art bell
It looks that way.
And then a lot of the ones they have now are down for maintenance and stuff.
unidentified
About four or five months ago, a friend of mine, I was in the Navy years ago, a Lieutenant J.G. friend of mine told me that the Navy was getting four old boomers ready to turn over to California, using its power generating stations.
art bell
The nuclear generators.
unidentified
The nuclear ballistic missile submarines.
art bell
Oh, yes.
unidentified
Old boomers.
They're the ones that have turned surplus, the ones that were agreements with the Russians where they filled the missile tubes with concrete.
Yeah, I guess you could put one in L.A. and one in L.A. They planned to put one in Coronado, one in San Pedro, one in Alameda, and I don't know where the fourth was to go.
art bell
Actually, that's a hell of an idea.
unidentified
The point was that they could have them in operation within six weeks.
art bell
No, you're absolutely correct.
unidentified
These boats produced about 60,000 horsepower, but they are driven by electric motors.
It's basically a steam power plant.
art bell
Do you mean 60,000 horsepower?
unidentified
That turns into about 45 megawatts each.
art bell
That's a serious amount of power.
unidentified
And from what I understand, the shortage of power they've got is only 1.5 to 5 megawatts.
art bell
Well, it depends on there have been different shortages on different days.
unidentified
Right, but if you can put 180 megawatts into the system, and they can run those boats at full bore for two years on what power charge they have.
art bell
Wow.
unidentified
That's what gives them some breathing space.
That's what happened in my timeline.
About five weeks ago, I went to check to see how they were going.
I had seen one of the boats set up on one of our news programs.
art bell
Right.
unidentified
Y'all haven't done that.
art bell
It's true.
So in other words, you're suggesting that somebody's really screwing with us, and we could have had these subs basically already almost in place.
unidentified
Y'all could still put them in place.
We did.
art bell
Well, what are we doing wrong?
unidentified
They're there.
They're sitting in the reserves.
The boats are there.
The Navy offered them.
I'm sure they offered them here.
They offered them at home.
art bell
And you think about five weeks ago the timeline changed?
unidentified
About five weeks ago, I found that the timeline had changed.
Somewhere between December, about the 15th, and about, as far as I've been able to trace it, somewhere between the 15th and the 5th of January, my timeline changed.
art bell
And you're law enforcement there near Atlanta, huh?
unidentified
Yeah, in a small town north of Atlanta, about 40 miles.
art bell
You know that other cop from L.A. that was on here a little while ago?
unidentified
Yeah.
art bell
He's putting people like you into observation.
unidentified
Unfortunately, yes, but in my timeline, we don't have anywhere near that problems.
art bell
Well, that's because I guess by then everybody's realized that you're not crazy.
unidentified
Yeah, well, if I'm here, the person that was here is there.
And I want my world back.
art bell
I understand.
Anyway, it's a hell of an idea, so it's in the air tonight for you, all right?
unidentified
Well, I hope somebody at least here decides to go ahead with it.
art bell
I got you.
It's in the air, sir.
unidentified
You are listening to Art Bell somewhere in time.
Tonight featuring Coast to Coast AM from the 18th of May, 2001.
I can feel it coming in the air tonight.
Oh, Lord.
And I've been waiting for this summer for all my life.
Oh, Lord.
Can I feel it coming in the air tonight?
Midnight at the oasis.
Send your camera to bed.
Shadows painting our faces.
Traces.
There's a romance in our heads.
Heaven's holding a half moon.
Shining just for us.
Lights slip off through a sand.
Blue.
Really soon.
Kick up the little dust.
Come on.
Catfish is our friend.
Be a pointed out the way.
Come on.
Till the evening ends.
Till the evening ends.
You don't have to answer.
There's no need for speed.
be your bare And you can be my sheep You're listening to Art Bell somewhere in time tonight featuring Coast to coast a.m. from the 18th of May 2001.
art bell
I've always used this from my last segment.
I don't know why it's just one of those things.
It's like the relaxing desert night summer night and it's like summer out there right now.
Actually outside temperature here about 74 75 degrees outside right now.
unidentified
beautiful somewhere in time with art bell continues courtesy of premier networks And so it's gone with another week.
art bell
Amazing, huh?
And the veil begins to lift, but for the next 22 minutes, no doubt, there will be plenty of you coming through.
First time, no.
Old habits die hard.
My possessed timeline, Lynn, you're on the air.
unidentified
Yes, I am from the future and I am from the past.
art bell
Both?
unidentified
Both.
I've been to both.
art bell
And you're a traveling man.
unidentified
Yes.
Right now what I need to say to everyone is some things that are going on right now on Earth.
Now, first I ask, do you know what the frequency is?
Have you heard the frequency?
Say you're out in the woods somewhere and it's totally quiet and you listen and you hear a frequency or you're taking a bath with the door closed.
You can hear a frequency.
And what that is, it's recording.
This frequency is recording everything that happens on this planet right now.
They have super high-tech lights.
They're lights that act as antenna that are, they usually mount them in trees or they can just mount them on your house or whatever.
You can't see them.
They're on a different wavelength.
And that records everything that's happening, every thought that every person on this planet is thinking.
Everything.
And in the future, you can review your past lives.
So, like right now, you, Art, and me, we are reviewing our past lives at this time as we're talking.
art bell
Really?
unidentified
Do you follow me?
art bell
I think.
unidentified
Okay, and what else I need to say is that they're not only recording everything on this planet, they're also controlling us.
And like some other people, I do have a computer in my brain that allows me to hear these frequencies.
art bell
You too, huh?
unidentified
Yes.
They are the frequencies that I'm hearing.
art bell
You have a computer in your brain.
unidentified
Yes.
As a younger boy.
art bell
What was the name of the secret?
unidentified
How fast can he think?
art bell
No, no, no.
unidentified
Yes, I don't know anything about history.
art bell
You don't?
unidentified
No, I'm not.
art bell
Damn.
I was going to ask you a simple historical question.
unidentified
Yeah, it's not that kind of computer.
I'm not programmed or whatever.
what does it really does the computer do for you the computer is Well, we know that to be true.
art bell
Right.
unidentified
So when you add something to it, an implant or a computer implant or whatever you want to call it, they can and do access different parts of your brain.
art bell
But with so much capacity, so much storage, a simple little political U.S. question, and you're not ready for it.
unidentified
Are you talking about the history?
Yeah.
Answering the history question?
art bell
Yes, yes, yes.
I mean, with that much storage, why not a little bit of history?
unidentified
That's a good question.
I don't know why.
I mean, there's so much.
art bell
Well, there's a second thing you don't have an answer for.
unidentified
There's so much history.
art bell
What kind of lousy operating system are you being subjected to?
unidentified
What would you like to know?
What, you know.
art bell
How often does it crash?
unidentified
It never crashes.
art bell
It just eternally provides you with a mediocre stream of bits of yeses and no's?
unidentified
Well, it enhances my own brain and activates different functions of my brain as far as you know you're asking remembering history and stuff that's not something that's that I do I'm not a history person well I'm sorry sir you are the weekendsly goodbye wildcard line you're on the air uh hey art hey how you doing I'm glad to have you back on the air first of all but um yeah I was listening to that lady that had the saw the dead squirrels in Ashland oh yes yes that was weird yeah it was
But the thing is, I used to live in Ashland, and probably about 30 miles out of the airport.
And we went out there, because I was doing some work out there, and it was probably a mile out past the airport.
art bell
Well, I know for sure Ashland's a little squirrely, but that's ridiculous.
unidentified
Well, these weren't squirrels, but on the ground at this little shed, there were all these birds laying on the ground.
art bell
Oh, jeez, birds.
unidentified
I mean, they were perfectly preserved, and they were looking up at the air like some had their mouths open.
And I thought maybe it was something to do with the airplanes taking off there, but then I heard the story about the squirrels tonight, and I'm like...
art bell
Instead, they're little pillars of salt birds.
unidentified
I don't know.
Well, I mean, they were preserved.
I never...
art bell
It sounds just like the squirrel thing, except with birds.
unidentified
Yeah, it is exactly like the squirrel thing, but it's in the same area.
That's why I thought it was kind of weird.
So, no explanation for that?
art bell
Not for me.
unidentified
Not for me.
art bell
But I guess Ashland would not be the place to be at that moment.
unidentified
Yeah, well, I would just...
art bell
What about people?
Did you see Ashlanders sort of in humans in frozen place?
unidentified
No.
Well, we were with a kind of weird guy who was kicking the birds around.
I thought that was real funny, but...
art bell
That's disgusting.
unidentified
Yeah, well, I never seen anything like that.
art bell
I mean, a bird that can't defend itself frozen like that, and you'd kick it?
unidentified
I didn't kick it.
Some other guy kicked it.
art bell
That's pathetic.
unidentified
I know, it's pathetic.
art bell
The world is getting meaner by the minute.
unidentified
Yeah.
Well, we were on a bus because we had to do community service out there, so that's why we were out there.
All I did was steal a poster.
That's why.
art bell
You stole a poster?
unidentified
Yeah, in Mario Van Peebles.
It was fur girl.
Oh, well, it was fur girl.
But I'm curious, these birds, because they freaked us out when we saw them.
We, like, told people about them, and no one knew what we were talking about, and that's the first thing I've ever heard was the dead squirrels exactly like that.
art bell
Yep.
Well, if I was in Ashland right now, I'd be thinking real hard about...
unidentified
Leaving?
Yeah.
Well, I'm in Long Beach right now.
I had done about two years ago.
art bell
So you've left?
unidentified
Yes, I've left Ashland.
art bell
Well, we sure will watch Ashland after getting a thank you.
Two calls like that, we'll watch Ashland very closely.
It could be that something is going to come along and simply freeze everything in place.
unidentified
Time stops.
art bell
Nothing moves.
Maybe the little birds, the little squirrels, well, the squirrels certainly weren't conscious because they were beginning to become skeletons, but the little birds, they might have been conscious.
And kicking a helpless little bird that can't move.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified
Hey, Art, this is Josh and Omar.
What's up?
art bell
You are up.
unidentified
Yeah, I guess so.
art bell
In the batter's box.
unidentified
Right.
This show that you had, like, I don't know, it was maybe three years back.
It was actually before I started listening.
I just heard other, you know, copies of it when you replayed it.
With the guy, I think it was X Area 51 employees is what you opened up the line for.
art bell
Oh, that's right, yes.
unidentified
Right, and the guy called in and he sounded really freaked out, you know, like not like he was acting.
It actually sounded real, you know, he was worried about that they were going to triangulate on his position.
art bell
Yes, and then immediately, actually, in the middle of that call, as he was screaming, we lost our satellite along with...
unidentified
Right, I remember that.
That was an awesome show.
art bell
It was actually along with every other network that was on that satellite.
They were all lost.
The satellite lost its Earth position and started, you know, twirling.
Eh.
Tumbling.
unidentified
Nonetheless, it was a cool show.
art bell
Yeah, it was.
unidentified
But, yeah, I was listening to, I don't know, can I say the name of a band on the air?
It was actually on a CD.
art bell
Can you say Tool?
unidentified
Tool, yeah.
It was on the Tools.
I didn't know if I could, you know, if that was promoting or whatever, but, yeah, I was listening to it the other day because it just came out in my friend's car and I heard it and I was like, that's really familiar.
And I kind of pictured back in my memory what it was and I was like, oh, yeah.
They've got the whole clip, like, sampled on there, you know, along with a bunch of background static and really cool noise and everything.
art bell
I know, it's a big honor.
Tool has indeed put that on their new album, which is a smash hit.
And, you know, I was so embarrassed because I started getting emails, people telling me, oh, my God, you're on the new Tool album.
You're not going to believe it.
And I, my first words were, whose Tool?
I didn't know who Tool was.
Now I know.
They've had three platinum albums.
unidentified
Right.
art bell
And this one is no doubt headed to the same place.
They are essentially, I'm told, the modern Pink Floyd.
unidentified
Yeah, they're kind of industrial, sort of, like that.
Were one of the guys a fan of your show or something?
art bell
Oh, that's what I've heard.
And if it's true, then I would like to...
interview somebody from Tool yeah the guy's a really weird guy I met him once I think he'd like him no he is weird as a matter of fact Tool has made a number of trips to Area 51.
unidentified
Really?
art bell
Are you aware of that?
You're not aware of that?
unidentified
Uh-uh.
art bell
It's up on the webpage.
Yeah, they're pretty weird, like me.
unidentified
Well, I figured you'd know that, I guess, but maybe all your other listeners can go and check it out.
Like I said, it is really cool with that background ambience and everything on there.
art bell
Pretty wild, huh?
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
art bell
All right.
Thank you very much.
And I'll tell you another little secret.
And I'm not going to tell you any more than this.
When Men in Black 2 comes out, Columbia Pictures, Men in Black 2, Look really hard for a let's see what would be the right word.
The essence of me.
See if you can spot it.
Was it the Rockies?
You're on the air.
Hello.
Oh, nope.
Push the button.
There you go.
Was it the Rockies?
You're on the air.
unidentified
This is Marnie in Eugene, Oregon.
art bell
Hello, Marnie.
unidentified
I just wanted to tell you that you had mentioned Atlantis earlier in the show.
art bell
It is going to be the first hour we replay in about 10 minutes.
unidentified
Okay.
art bell
It was such a gigantic story, the way it came down.
Yes, did you hear the interview?
unidentified
Yes, and I had just finished a book by Sylvia Brown in which she says that Atlantis will be fully visible in the year 2026.
art bell
Well, it may have to come up 2,200 feet, or the ocean level may have to drop 2,200 feet.
unidentified
We've got a lot of time to do it.
art bell
One way or the other.
Well, that's a pretty big change.
unidentified
You're a wonderful host, Mr. Bell.
I appreciate it.
art bell
Thank you.
unidentified
Thank you.
art bell
Take care.
On my anomalous line, you are on the air.
Hello.
unidentified
Oh, hi.
Are Belle.
art bell
Yes.
unidentified
I don't believe it.
I have been trying to call you for almost four years.
I am not kidding.
art bell
Well, that's a long time to be dialing.
unidentified
For real.
Good thing I got a phone this year with speed dial.
I think that's the only thing that gave me the answer.
Okay, a couple of things.
No fastener.
And with a time travel thing?
Yes.
You know, you had the guy on a couple of nights ago talking about possessions?
Yes.
Okay, now, when he exercises somebody and removes the spirit, does that last forever or does it expire and can the person be repossessed?
art bell
Well, the person, in fact, can be repossessed, and sometimes he's got to exercise them several times before they're gone.
unidentified
Oh, before they're actually gone.
Oh, before it's spirit.
I was half kitty with the question, but that's phenomenal.
art bell
No, I got the repossessed part.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
But no, I was going to go parum pump, but I thought, nah.
But anyway, I was listening, and normally I would joke about something like that, but I don't think I will anymore because that stuff made the hair on the back of my neck stand up.
art bell
Mine too.
unidentified
It was just too bizarre.
Okay, now on the time-traveling thing, this one is really serious.
I know it's going to be hard to believe, but this is totally, totally true.
About five years ago, well, let me ask you this.
art bell
You have no idea how many conversations from my callers start out just that way.
unidentified
What?
art bell
This is going to be almost impossible to believe, but here I go.
unidentified
Well, I guess you're lucky that way.
Okay.
When somebody forgets something, I mean, like, totally forgets it.
Yes.
Cannot remember it.
They call that amnesia.
art bell
Right.
unidentified
What happens when somebody remembers something to the inf detail that never happened?
Is there a name for that?
I'll tell you why I ask.
About five years ago, I started noticing that people were remembering things that I participated in.
art bell
Yes.
unidentified
Not only differently than I remembered, but almost like the exact opposite.
But yet they had all this detail.
And then when I check, it's like other people would remember it their way, and some people would be fuzzy, but I definitely remember a totally different way of working out.
art bell
What kind of stuff did they tell you that you did that you didn't remember?
unidentified
Or either that or that, like at a party, something happened or a sequence of events that was like nothing like what occurred.
art bell
No.
In other words, in your ongoing life, you just got it.
unidentified
Some of it is in my life.
Some of it is in the news.
art bell
So in other words, let me get this straight.
unidentified
Okay.
art bell
In the life you're in now, you're just sort of an average gal.
Of course.
In the other life, you were a party gal.
unidentified
Well, no, no, no, not even that.
Just honestly, this is why I'm telling you, this is totally, I'm totally serious with this.
And I only started noticing it about five years ago.
i'm asking what are the differences you can imagine They remember them, and I'm sure that they're remembering them accurately, but it's like totally different than what I remember.
And then there are some things that other people are in dispute about, and I'm like real fuzzy on.
Like the whole thing with Nelson Mandela, that's the weird one.
When I heard that, again, the hair on the back of my neck stood up because I do remember him dying in prison.
And then sometime later, I remember being surprised when I heard that he's like the president of the ANC or whatever they call their government.
Well, and he even visited here and everything, and I'm thinking, but that's weird because I remember, and this was before I stopped to think that I had heard that he had died in prison, but I could have remembered hearing that he had been assassinated.
So it's like two different major things happened to Nelson Mandela.
art bell
You know, I agree with you.
And so what you're talking about is a major area of investigation for me.
I'm not sure how to go about investigating this.
I've been pondering that now for quite some time, and I have no idea how to proceed, because how do we start to prove, other than with evidence of people like you calling and emailing me, that somebody's screwing with timelines?
How do we prove that?
unidentified
You know what?
I'm going to think about that.
And if I ever get through to you again, I'll have a suggestion.
art bell
All I can imagine is compiling a lot of the kind of evidence you've given me tonight.
I mean, your own personal testimony.
unidentified
Well, better than that, how about we start from today?
Because this is all, see, this is the problem.
This is all after the fact.
Sort of like in a classroom when the answer is given and then some kid says, oh, yeah, I was just about to say that.
It's like, yeah, right.
Maybe they were, but yeah, right.
So this is all falls within the category of, yeah, right.
So how about everybody, like everybody listening, start keeping a journal of the high points of their day, like just two or three lines, whatever the major things are.
art bell
Or even better, not just the high point of your day, but go to CNN Headline News or something and write down the major events of the day.
unidentified
Okay, yeah, that's even better.
that's more empirical.
art bell
Yeah, that's right.
unidentified
And then, right, and then we'll all just save it, and then like every few months or so, kind of review it.
And when something doesn't jive, we can all like compare notes.
Literally compare notes.
art bell
Now you're cooking.
unidentified
Yeah, all right, all right.
Then it's great talking to you.
Oh, if I ever get to meet you, would it be okay if I give you and Mona a hug?
Because I collect hugs.
I collect famous hugs.
art bell
You're a hugger, huh?
unidentified
Yeah.
Oh, I hug, you know, my best celebrity hug.
art bell
Just people or trees, too?
unidentified
Oh, no, I do hug trees, but that came later.
But my best celebrity hug happened on Valentine's Day.
Mikhail Gorbachev, oh my god, no.
Mikhail Barychnikov.
It was so cool.
No, when I see you, I'll tell you what that hug is like.
It's phenomenal.
art bell
Well, so you're a celebrity hugger?
unidentified
Well, sort of.
I collect hugs, and some of them are celebrities.
art bell
Well, do these celebrities know the hugs are coming all the time, or do you have to sort of sneak up on them and...
Well, yeah, if a hug comes fast enough, it's like, hey, what do you do?
unidentified
Well, you know what?
That's funny, because there are some people who kind of just stand there and don't really take it.
Others, you feel them sort of reluctantly take it, and others just suck it right up.
It's just wild.
It's really wild.
I'll have to give you my dissertation on hugs one day.
art bell
I've never had a hugger call before.
Oh, not a fully admitted hugger.
unidentified
Oh, no.
Hold on.
And then, well, this other one I'll tell you again if ever I see you guys in person.
But I'll tell you about my experiences hugging Michael and Kitty Dukakis.
art bell
Michael Dukakis?
unidentified
And Kitty Dukakis.
Yeah, but separately on two different weeks.
art bell
They always struck me as sort of a hugging type.
unidentified
I'll tell you when I meet you personally.
art bell
Really?
Yeah.
Okay.
unidentified
All right.
I don't want to be disparaging, and I don't mean to be, but I'd have to give you an honest accounting, right?
art bell
Oh, you would, yes.
unidentified
Yeah, but I don't want to do it on the air.
art bell
Okay, I really want to thank you for calling.
unidentified
Okay, fine.
Fine.
art bell
Your radio may now return to its normal timeline.
It's hard to tell.
I urge you, those who have the ability to hear the next hour, which is going to be rebroadcast, you don't want to miss it.
And so goes another week.
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