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Feb. 14, 2001 - Art Bell

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Coast to Coast AM with Art Bell - Linda Moulton Howe - Alien Area 51 - Time Traveler Lines

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art bell ▲ ● ▼		Moulton Howe, who has a really interesting report for you on this whole thing that was just done with regard to the asteroid.
		Actually landing incredibly, not designed to, but landing on an asteroid and living to tell about it.
		That's what one of our space probes just did.
		So all of that coming up in a moment, stay right where you are.
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art bell ▲ ● ▼		And now Linda Moulton Howe, who began her journey in high strangeness as an environmental reporter, and boy, I'll tell you, the environment is highly strange still, and she still reports on it.
		An investigator of crop circles, animal mutilations, all kinds of high strangeness, and of course an author.
		A couple of times now, at least, if not more.
		From Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.
		Linda Moltow.
		Hi, Linda.
unidentified		Hi, Art, and happy Valentine.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, the very same to you, former Miss Idaho.
unidentified		And it's four books now.
unidentified		Hopefully, we'll be talking about the fourth one next month, Mysterious Lights.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Four books.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Mysterious Lights.
unidentified		Yeah, and we'll have a lot to talk about that, I think.
		But tonight, it is this amazing human feat out in our solar system that humans have accomplished.
		And in a way, it started about five years ago when this was launched.
		And then on Valentine's Day a year ago, NASA's Near Shoemaker spacecraft went into orbit around this asteroid called 433 Eros.
		It's a big rock, 21 miles long, and about 196 million miles from Earth orbiting between Mars and Jupiter.
		And over the past year, NIAR kept orbiting Eros, taking thousands of photographs, literally.
		And then two days ago, on February 12th, as an experiment, at the very end of this amazing orbit, the mission control gave it a command to slowly head down toward the asteroid.
		At about 3.02 p.m. Eastern Standard Time, descending at four miles an hour, NIR became the first Earth-made vehicle to land on an asteroid.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		This would be called a oh, what the hell maneuver, right?
unidentified		That's right.
unidentified		If it's going to end, let's see what we can do.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
unidentified		Well, it took photographs all the way, and the last one before Impact, plus several others, are at my website, www.earthfiles.com in the science section.
		You can go to EarthFiles now and see those asteroid images, and there is a link to the NEAR site that has dozens more.
		And not only did the NEAR spacecraft land, it's still operating, much to the surprise of the engineers and scientists.
		And today, NASA announced that NEAR's work on the asteroid will be extended for up to 10 more days to gather more science data.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Wow.
unidentified		Yes, it's all an amazing and unpredictable, which is what makes it so wonderful.
		And one of the project scientists is Lucy McFadden.
		She's a geologist and professor of astronomy at the University of Maryland.
		She's been working on NEAR over this whole period.
		And I talked with her about this historic Eros landing in which the orbiter survived and kept sending signals.
		Here is Dr. McFadden.
		And we weren't expecting that, so it was all very exciting.
		But then the mission director, the person who's in charge of basically driving the spacecraft, he got all excited.
		He said, well, wouldn't it be great if we could launch again from the asteroid, look back and take a picture of where we landed.
		But his engineers did an assessment from this telemetry packet, which has information about the spacecraft.
		And they determined that they only have about one kilogram of fuel, which is not enough to do anything.
		So basically, we're sitting there.
		But meanwhile, one of the other team leaders, Jack Trompa, who's in charge of the X-ray gamma ray spectrometer, me and his team said, oh, wait a minute.
		Why we're sitting right here on the surface.
		And we can detect gamma rays, the natural radiation from the soil surface itself.
		And maybe we can make some measurements if we integrated for a week, turned our spectrometer, gamma ray spectrometer back on and integrated for a week, we'd get some improved signal and get a very good measurement for this part of the soil.
		Now, if you can get the permission for extending communication with the spacecraft on Eros for the gamma-ray research, what would that gamma-ray information tell you?
		Tell us about the elemental composition of the soil.
		And from that, what could you learn?
		Well, we're interested in that.
		I'm particularly interested in that because I've been analyzing reflected sunlight from the near-infrared, which gives us signatures of metal, of minerals, which is rock, the minerals in the rocks.
		But if we can get the abundance of the element iron, for example, that will constrain our analysis, saying the iron has to exist in a certain state.
		And it allows us to determine whether all of the iron is in the crystal structure that I measure in the near-infrared spectrum, or whether some of it is in metallic iron, which I don't measure in the mineral spectrum.
		And that's a very important piece of information, whether I can get it, whether it's all in the structures, the mineral structures, or whether some of it's in the metallic state.
		If you can refine what the minerals are on the surface of Eras, what will that tell you about the bigger picture?
		Well, that helps us, the composition of the minerals there is a reflection of the processing that has gone on on the surface, whether it's material that condensed at the early time of the solar system, or whether it's been partially heated or heated since it formed.
		So the knowledge of the minerals and the distribution of metallic iron or iron in other minerals tells us whether Eros is primitive and has been unaltered since it formed at the beginning of the solar system or whether it may have experienced some subsequent heating in its course, in its use in the solar system.
		Some of my teammates are starting to model mechanisms which would move some of the dust, fill in the craters.
		We see a lot of filled in craters.
		But there's a question, you know, are these craters deep craters that are filled in with a lot of stuff?
		Are they flat craters that aren't very deep that don't have one?
		But that's one of the questions as we move into the realm of geology, studying a geological body.
		We're trying to figure out how this material moves around on the surface, how parts of arrows are smooth, filled in.
		We're actually calling them ponds.
		They seem to be filled in and smooth.
		But there's still, there are rocks.
		When we get up there, there are rocks all over the place.
		So it's still rough in many, you know, it's still also rough at the same time that there are places that are smooth.
		And why do you think that there are so many more rocks per square area than save in the moon?
		Well, that's another question.
		We're trying to quantify that.
		That's our first assumption, or that's our first sense when we look at it.
		But you know what?
		We have to actually sit there and count the rocks per square area and compare it to the rocks count on the moon.
		So before we spend a lot of time trying to explain the difference, we're still getting our facts free.
		I think the last time we talked, we also had the question about what did this produce, the asteroid belt, the first site, some people have speculated that maybe there was some sort of a planetary body there and that there was some kind of an impact that broke it up.
		No, I think we're pretty comfortable with the model that there was no, that it's the gravitational force of Jupiter interplaying with the gravitational force of the Sun that prevented the planet from growing in the asteroid belt.
		So that there was never any big planet-sized object.
		The asteroids are just failed planets.
		But you're still left with a mystery about why there are these unusual smooth areas on the Earth, right?
		I think our mystery is what's the distribution of the boulders and the distribution of the craters?
		Are there small craters?
		Is there an absence of small craters?
		When we look around now, we've looked all over Ariston.
		There's a lot of activity.
		I mean, we've gotten down, we've gotten down till we see things that are inches across.
		And so it doesn't look smooth anymore.
		There's all those rocks there, rocks and boulders.
		It's pretty rough.
		There's places that are relatively smoother, but that's inside one of the larger features.
		We're debating whether it's a crater or not.
		We think it's a crater.
		Is that that sort of saddle-shaped place?
		Right, where you landed?
	That area is now called Himaros.
	And that is very unusual to look at in the aerial photograph.
	Right, and that's from a large distance.
	It looks relatively smoother.
	But when we get down there and we landed in that area, when you get down and look up close, there is still, it's very rough.
	There's a lot of debris spread out all over the asteroid.
	Mission operators say the touchdown speed of less than four miles an hour may have been one of the slowest planetary landings in history.
	They also have a better picture of what happened in those moments after the landing.
	What they originally thought was that the spacecraft bounced, but it may be that what happened since It seemed to have been balanced so well there that it took a short little hop or a jiggle on the surface.
	The thrusters were still firing when the craft hit, but it cut off on impact, and near Shoemaker came down only about 650 feet from the projective landing site, and this little car-sized object was never even designed to land.
	This was one of those things that people tried, and it really worked this time.
	Well, and one thing that's really interesting is that near Shoemaker, it snapped 69 pictures during the final three miles that it was going down, the highest resolution images that have ever been obtained on an asteroid.
	And the camera delivered clear pictures from as close as 394 feet, showing features as small as one centimeter across.
	That's really tiny.
	And the images included several things that have really piqued the scientist's curiosity, such as there are boulders that look like they're fractured.
	There's a football field-sized crater filled with dust that Dr. McFadden was talking about, and a mysterious area where the surface appears to have collapsed in, inward.
	What is that about?
	And they have a lot of work to do on the photos and from this gamma-ray spectrometer.
	So this has really been an exciting use.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What a great memorial for Dr. Shoemaker, huh?
unidentified		Oh, she and I, Dr. McFadden and I were talking about this.
		I had interviewed him when those 21 objects slammed into Jupiter.
		I was at the Space Telescope Institute.
		And he was thrilled with being able to explore in the solar system from a geologist's point of view.
		And she had known Dr. Shoemaker.
		And she said that what we accomplished in the last five years, culminating this week, on Eros, would have thrilled him.
		And that to have his name on this orbiter that has been so successful is a wonderful tribute.
		Yes, it is.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You said it took photographs right until it impacted, right?
unidentified		That's right.
unidentified		The very last one.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You've got those on your website.
		People can see them.
		I guess it got really, really close.
		And they didn't see any, no rock bugs, right?
unidentified		No.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, now here on Earth, stuff does grow in rocks.
		Now, in space, I know, no rain, lots of sun, and a rock and minerals.
		So it's not totally outrageous that some weird form of life, mineral-eaten life, could exist, is it?
unidentified		It would be great if near could get up on little wheels now and roll around, but unfortunately it is stuck there.
		There is one interesting thing when you talk about some of these mysterious, there's structures.
		For example, there is two or three photographs, they're also at earthfiles.com, in which it looks like squares cut in the asteroid.
		And she and I talked about it.
		She said that on our planet, there is a square crater, an impact crater from sometime in the distant Earth past.
		And the analysis is that the reason why it's square instead of circular has to do with the crystal structure of hard rock as opposed to soft.
		If it's something that would go into softer sedimentary, it may look like a circle, but if it goes into hard rock, it's going to fracture in these odd square-like 90-degree patterns.
		Well, there's several of these square-like depressions on Eros, and they have a lot of close-up photographic analyses that they're going to do because there's so many photographs.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Linda, she said affirmatively that it was a failed planet, that asteroids are failed planets.
unidentified		I think what she meant was in answer to my question, because I had actually asked her in another part of the interview, is it possible that the asteroid belt was a planet or a planetary body that had been hit and been fractured?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		She seemed very sure not.
unidentified		That it is not, and most scientists agree with her that all of the rubble between Mars and Jupiter is from either debris or there might have been a gaseous body that would have formed into a planet but could never have done so because of the gravitational pull of Jupiter.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, there is some argument about all of this, though.
		In other words, what asteroids are.
		There are some who believe that planets have exploded, that planets have fractured, that they've been hit by big things and become little things.
		That's not too outrageous to imagine, is it?
unidentified		No, the idea of something coming through the system and hitting and glancing on things.
		Clearly, something big, well, we're talking about five to six miles across, slammed into the Yucatan, and that's what wiped out the dinosaurs.
		But that's still an asteroid-side thing.
		The question about what happened between Mars and Jupiter, from the scientist's point of view, rests with the gravitational pull of Jupiter, every scientist I've talked to.
		It's an interesting and it's a science fiction speculation to think that there was something there that might have gotten hit.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I've got another little science fiction scenario for you while we're talking about asteroids.
		You know, science fiction movies have always shown wars between aliens and Earth.
		And I got to thinking, why would any alien need to go to war with us?
		If they didn't want Earth here anymore, or even the human race here anymore, how many of these big asteroids would they have to change the orbit of to do us in, you know, game over?
unidentified		Probably not many, but it may not be in their interest because it's very clear that slamming an asteroid into the Earth causes so much devastation.
unidentified		And it may be that it's in the interest of all life in the universe to actually preserve life.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I know.
		But I mean, just theoretically.
		It wouldn't take...
		Yeah, that's what I thought.
		I mean, the human race would go with probably one really large one, and everything after that would be tossing the ashes around.
unidentified		Well, I interviewed one of the Scientists studying the Yucatan impact, and it was surprising to hear that in the computer models, they think that the thing that hit the Earth was about six miles in diameter and that it caused literal flame spreading out,
		causing trees to burn, that there was a huge spread of fire from the impact, let alone all of the debris that went up into the atmosphere, causing what they refer to as a kind of false winter, in which the sun is blocked out for a period of time, killing the plants, which then is what caused the extinction of most of the surface life, including the dinosaurs.
		All right, Linda, your information for contact is my email at earthfiles at earthfiles.com, and the website is earthfiles.com.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And your fax number?
unidentified		215-491-9842.
unidentified		And this new book, Mysterious Lights in Cross Circles, the first printing pretty much sold out, and the second printing is to be out in the end of March, and it would be fun to do a long show with you to talk about it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You just told me about it, and you're telling me it's already sold out.
unidentified		Well, the first one, yeah.
		So it's going into another printing, and it would be, I think, it's a very interesting book covering a lot of aspects of the history of the Earth in relationship to some of these symbols.
		So maybe we can talk about that next month.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, definitely.
		All right, Linda, we really appreciate the report on the asteroid.
		I know a lot more than I did, and I'll look forward to seeing the photographs.
		Good night.
unidentified		Thank you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Take care, Linda.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's Linda Moulton-Howe, the reporter on this program and Dreamland for a long, long time.
unidentified		All right.
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		You may recall that call, though it came late in the show, and some of you might have missed it, who said, look, I've been working with MRIs for years now, and I've got to tell you, I've been seeing entities, apparitions, whatever you want to call them for years now, and I would not dare tell those co-workers I have about what I've seen.
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		And that's for putting civilians at the helm.
		And then the nation's top TV executives responding to a congressional inquiry, which probably scared the hell out of them, into election night mistakes, promise change.
		The heads of ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, and Fox News all were there, promising it'll be a different kind of election day next time.
		I wonder if they'll overcompensate and, you know, we'll get election results like two days later.
		Well, we're finally ready to call Florida.
		Speaking of Florida, somebody sent me just one short sentence of a note about the skunk ape photographs on the website.
		It just says, note, a skunk ape.
		Poland.
		Very obviously a South Florida Chad Eater.
		News on Mir.
		As you know, they're going to bring Mir down.
		Now, I bet you've been wondering, what are the odds, right?
		I certainly have, and I've got a story here that tells you just what they are.
		Filed February 15th in the French press.
		Why we don't get that here, I have no idea.
		It comes from France.
		The chance that Russia's decrepit space station Mir could crash to Earth when it is nudged out of orbit is as high as, get this, it's according to a Russian space official, one in 33.
		As said Vladimir Asoliov, any technical equipment can fail anytime.
		We put the risk at 2% to 3%.
		However, he hastened to add right now, everything is fine on board the station.
		We have permanent contact with Mir.
		Russia has accepted offers of NASA and the European Space Agency to compute the decaying orbit of Mir when the time comes to push it down into the atmosphere with mortal rocket blasts from the attached Pogress Supply Ship, said Mr. Solia.
		The operation, taking Mir out orbits, burning as much as 135 tons of its mass up as it burns back into the atmosphere, tracking it to what is said to be its final point of impact in the ocean south of Australia, would take two or three days.
		In other words, they're not going to do it all at once.
		It's going to kind of slip into the atmosphere.
		They're going to burn as much up before impact.
		The progress craft is to begin maneuvering Mir into a lower orbit late this month.
		Then they think the final impact is expected early next month.
		The re-entry phase itself, once it begins, according to Mr. Solo, would take about 15 minutes.
		Space experts have warned that if anything were to go wrong during the operation sections, that some don't burn up properly, that it might land on land.
		Several nations, notably Japan, have voiced concern.
		Now, as you know, they're bringing it down because there have been accidents on Mir and people who have been up on Mir, as its occupants have said, but at times they're in more or less mortal terror over what goes on in Mir.
		So it'll be interesting to see it come down.
		There's going to be an aircraft, of course, that's going to fly, and it's been chartered by people who have money to do that kind of thing.
		And watch Mir come down so they'll get the best view of it.
		Hopefully not too good.
		Now, let's see, what else is going on?
		Mad cow disease.
		I am starting to get so damn much stuff on mad cow disease.
		Of course, we have a show scheduled.
		But from Sandy, Utah Art, I've been watching the Mad Cow situation for several years now.
		People don't realize how serious it really is.
		When Europeans realized what they had on their hands, they killed their animals, mixed them into animal feed, Roliath.
		This feed was set worldwide.
		Mad cow disease says Leone is now everywhere.
		Chickens and pigs have been eating the feed, as have deer and elk when they come down in the winter.
		Mad cow disease is caused by a prion or protein, which can't be destroyed by normal means.
		It's true.
		Actually, I think it's not even, if you burn a carcass, you don't destroy a prion.
		This out-of-shape thing, protein, whatever it is.
	It takes, I understand, about 1,200 degrees of heat to destroy it.
	Now, think about that.
	So, do you really want to be burning carcasses?
	No, probably not.
	And then I got this today: mad bee disease.
	That's right, mad bee disease hits French honey harvest.
	Millions of French honeybees suffering from mad bee disease are becoming so disoriented, they're unable to find their way back to their home.
	A dramatic drop in honey production.
	Honeybees will die within hours.
	They've got fast little systems, don't they, if they cannot find their way home.
	Only bees collecting nectar from sunflowers appear to be affected thus far, and environmentalists are pointing the finger at a systematic pesticide.
	Yesterday, the government ordered a two-year extension of a ban on using that pesticide on sunflower seeds to allow more study of its impact on bees.
	So, we've got some sort of mad bee disease.
	Now, the following I'm going to read to you, but I certainly don't warrant that it's true.
	Somebody up in the area is going to have to tell me.
	I have no idea whether this is true.
	It sounds as though it's written as though it's true, and that doesn't mean it is.
	It's entitled Strange Doings in Tacoma.
	Art had a bit of intrigue here in Tacoma recently.
	There was an incident recently in a local bank where a well-dressed, middle-aged man walked into the lobby, and while waiting in line for a teller, started to severely hemorrhage.
	Other customers, even the bank employees, were so scared they moved away from the man, just watched as he bled out, blood coming from his eyes, nose, mouth, you know, everywhere in huge amounts.
	What was really strange was that he remained on his feet while he bled out for almost five minutes, finally collapsing on the floor where he died in his own blood.
	Bank security cameras captured the whole thing on tape.
	Healthcare professionals have absolutely no idea what would cause something like this to happen.
	Some form, apparently, of hemorrhagic fever was initially suspected, but they don't think that's what it is.
	Well, if this is a true story, big if, then I don't know what else it would be.
	Only a hemorrhagic fever causes that sort of thing, doesn't it?
	And then this.
	Headline, dying geese puzzle biologists.
	Hundreds of Atlantic Brandt geese began turning up dead in the Edwin B. Forsyth National Wildlife Refuge last November, and not all died quietly.
	Some fell from the sky in midflight, stricken by a mysterious ailment whose origin continues to stump wildlife biologists and disease experts alike.
	One motorist reported seeing a bird drop suddenly from above, floundering in its path before crashing into a guard rail.
	The carcasses of others were found in the sprawling wildlife refuge outside Atlantic City and on the beaches of the neighboring island of Brigadine.
	The die-off is indeed puzzling.
	The dead geese appear perfectly healthy otherwise.
	Plenty of body fat, no signs of trauma.
	Lab examinations show no evidence of West Nile virus, cholera, pesticide, poisoning, or any other common killer of waterfowl.
	And I worry when I read stories like this.
	You know, I think we all ought to worry.
	We keep hearing about die-offs, about animals that begin to be predators of animals they have never been predators of before.
	Things are changing out there, folks.
	Here's another one for you.
	We might know about this.
	A bizarre goo that began washing up on Pensacola Beach late last week has scientists with the Florida Department of Environmental Protection looking to their federal counterparts for help.
	The goo, which is now being reported as far east as Fort Walton Beach and as far west as Alabama, is washing up foamy and slimy and then drying in the sand as a dark crust.
	Oh, wonderful.
	Coming from RSE, scientists with the Florida Department of Environmental Protection have run several tests on the mysterious substance, but still have not the slightest idea what it is.
	They planned to ask the local Federal Environmental Protection Agency lab to help solve the mystery today.
	A DEP spokesperson said, to spread that far makes me think it's a natural occurrence.
	But he didn't, but it didn't react to any of the tests, so they have no idea what this is.
	No idea.
	He doesn't think it's dangerous.
	But just in case, mind you, he has asked people on the beach to avoid it anyway.
	Now, what would be your inclination?
	Would you avoid it?
	You go to the beach, and there, instead of the wonderfully crystalline crashing waves coming ashore, you find something gooey, foamy, slimy, that dries in the sand as a dark crust.
	Oh, well, let's just go surf a little bit, shall we?
	Hey, maybe I'll include Area 51.
	Let me include Area 51 in the calls that I'll take tonight.
	Area 51.
	Anybody working past or present at Area 51 is allowed to call?
	Listen to this.
	Dear Ark, My wife and I used to drive team in a semi hauling loads for the Department of Defense and the DOE.
	We picked up a load for DOE, hauling a RA load, whatever that is, to the Nevada test site.
	I dropped my wife and two pugs off at a hotel in Vegas as only one person can go inside the site and there are no pets allowed.
	So I exited off US-95, drove five miles to the main gate, greeted by a host of warning signs along the way.
	Oh, yes, they have a lot of warning signs up there.
	Warning of incarceration, bullets that could enter your body.
	You know, that's a lot of warning signs.
	Anyway, this guy's going in to Area 51 legally.
	He says, I parked my rig and walked inside to check in with the guards.
	After I was issued a badge, I was given a map.
	On it were numbered grids and most of the roads inside.
	I then drove the 38 miles to my assigned unloading area, Area 31.
	And in parentheses, he puts unescorted.
	Yes, there was an Area 51 grid on the map.
	And he ends it with kind of a taunting, saw very interesting things.
	Oh, I'd like to talk to this man.
	This is an 18-wheel wheeler, you know, who actually had authorization to drive all the way into area, well, not 51, but into that area adjacent to 51.
	38 miles, that's a long ways in.
	Closest any of us can get, really, legally, is the mailbox.
unidentified		Not past that, but he got to go 38 miles in.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What do you think he saw?
		Well, we can only wonder.
		All right, well, I've got kind of a treat coming up for you after we do the news at the top of the hour.
		Now, before we begin our open line calls, which will encompass much, I've got a very well-credentialed scientist who's going to talk to us a little bit about MRI.
		And it's kind of interesting because she thinks that seeing entities or apparitions around an MRI machine, well, let's put it this way, she's not so surprised.
		Now, she's got a hell of a background, a heavyweight, degrees from Boston University, UCLA, University of Southern California, has been a member of three Nobel Prize-winning research teams, including the Sauk Institute, Tulane University Medical School.
		That's pretty heavy stuff.
		And she's not surprised that entities are seen near an MRI.
		And surprisingly, she has granted us an interview, Linda Honor.
		Dr. Linda Honor is going to talk to us here shortly, right after the news.
		And then I'm going to read you a couple of faxes that I've got from people who also have extensive experience with MRI.
		It just all hit me.
		I know about electromagnetic fields and their effect on human beings, or at least I know something about it.
		And so when I got that original call, it was like a light bulb went on and I went, aha!
		Gigantic electromagnetic fields, seeing things that may be around us all the time, or, you could argue, affecting the human brain and causing us to see things.
		One way or the other, certainly is it.
		Intrazi is going to be the next segment.
		Then, open lines, so get ready.
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		The newspaper says Admiral Thomas Fargo told members of the Senate Armed Services Committee he didn't understand how the captain of the USS Greenville did not realize his sub was surfacing directly below a Japanese fishing trailer.
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art bell ▲ ● ▼		And she was absolutely serious, and she said, there's no way that I could tell my coworkers what I've been seeing or that I would tell them what I've been seeing.
		And that began kind of an odyssey.
		A light bulb went off for me.
		And I said, oh, my God, of course.
		The Philadelphia experiments.
		Remember, large electromagnetic fields?
		Right?
		Large electromagnetic fields.
		Remember now, when ghosts are seen, what do the investigators do in with magnetometers to look for electromagnetic anomaly, right?
		So the light bulb went off and I went, boy, of course.
		And then I began to get some emails from some of you about some of you working near MRI machines.
		Remarkable emails.
		I'll read them here in a little while.
		But basically tonight, we're going to have open lines, with one short exception coming up.
		And when we do get to the open lines part of this show, I'm going to be looking for those of you who have had experience near MRI machines or other large electromagnetic fields and have seen things, entities.
		That's what I'm going to be looking for.
		And also, at the same time, matter of fact, let me add Area 51.
		We're going to just open it up to everything, including the following.
		I guess I shouldn't say everything.
		Including the following.
		Strange encounters of the time kind.
		Strange encounters of the fourth kind, or that'd be close encounters.
		Abduction, actually.
		Of dimensional experiences.
		And of anybody with knowledge of Area 51, like the truck driver that I read the email from a little while ago, who drove 38 miles into the area.
		He should call me right away.
		But coming up in a moment, a very brave doctor, Dr. Linda Honor, I'll tell you all about her in a moment, because she has a word or two to say to you about MRI.
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art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, here we go.
		This is the facts that I received that began it all.
		Dear Ms. Bell, I am paxing a copy of my MRI letter of concern, which was published in the professional journal Hospital Practice.
		This letter provides evidence for a physiological compromise.
		Physiological, that's physical compromise on three levels in people who have had exposure to the MRI.
		This scientifically documented physiologic compromise includes molecular binding problems at the level of the receptor, genetic damage, which may not become immediately apparent and may remain latent for a generation or more, and cellular proliferation, which may result in tumor development.
		In addition, several years ago, I submitted an additional statement of further concern, which was accepted for publication by Gwen Wyckoff, who was the editor-in-chief of Perceptions Magazine.
		However, immediately prior to publication, I decided to withdraw the article because I felt the general public was not ready to hear what I had to say.
		So Wyckoff graciously agreed to my withdrawal request.
		In that statement, I suggested that because MRI functions by means of magnetic fields, and because we are electromagnetic energy fields, i.e.
		our spirits or souls, that exposure to artificially induced magnetic fields which are generated by the MRI may compromise the integrity of our inherent electromagnetic energy systems.
		In other words, our souls.
		I hope this information will be helpful for your scheduled program this evening on MRIs and the perception of ghostly entities.
		As I explained when I called into your program several years ago, I didn't know that, in response to a question posed by another caller as to whether the MRI had anything in common with the Philadelphia experiment, the MRI and the Philadelphia experiment use similar technologies.
		As a result, the experiences of MRI technicians who experience transdimensional entities when in close proximity to a functional MRI is not at all surprising, in parenthesis, to me.
		It might be helpful to your show to know that I'm a behavioral neuroscientist, psychologist, am a university professor, medical research scientist, and clinical psychotherapist with degrees from Get This, Folks, Boston University, UCLA, and the University of Southern California.
		I have previously been a member of three Nobel Prize-winning research teams, including the Sauk Institute and Tulane University Medical School.
		I have conducted related research in the laboratories of other renowned scientists, such as Dr. Jonas Sauff.
		And I have recently been named as an Outstanding Scientist of the 20th Century in Europe, among other recognitions.
		I hope this enclosed information may be helpful for your understanding of MRI and may serve as a referential foundation for your program on MRI-related experiences, which is scheduled to air this evening.
		Now, I would never have expected somebody this credentialed to come forward and talk about anything like this in a million years.
		And yet, here is Dr. Linda Honor.
		Hi, Doctor.
unidentified		Well, Mr. Bell, so very nice to talk with you this evening.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I'm surprised to be talking to you, Doctor.
		And I should tell the audience that when I did call you after I got this, you certainly did not intend to go on the errand I asked you to.
		And you paused and said, well, I have career considerations, and I bet you do.
unidentified		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That was a short little laugh.
		So there's serious concerns.
		Doctor, have you heard stories yourself about unusual occurrences near MRI operating machines?
unidentified		Yes, I've heard a number of stories, and I think that's one of the reasons why I wrote this letter of concern that was published in hospital practice.
		One of the major concerns that I had initially was simply that people who would have head MRIs, because I'm a brain, I was especially interested in head MRIs, and those folks who had head MRIs would come off the machine talking about how they had an out-of-it sensation.
		And they almost uniformly would describe it as an out-of-it sensation.
		They would talk about a dreamlike state that they felt they were in.
		Really?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
		Do technicians, when they're going to do a brain MRI, warn people of that possible side effect?
		Do they ever say anything about it?
unidentified		Not that I know of.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's interesting.
unidentified		In Counterpoint, as a matter of fact, to my knowledge, the general medical community seems to feel that the MRI is very safe.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I'm sure, and I want to be careful here, I've also had an MRI myself.
		No strange experiences during it, and I found out what was wrong with my back.
		So it has obvious good applications.
		I'm not ripping MRI apart in any way here.
unidentified		Absolutely.
		MRI is a wonderful technology.
		However, as with any other medical technique or any medical application of any type, MRI has some serious potential, let's just call them potential side effects that could be problems down the road.
		And I'm not sure that the medical community has adequately addressed that.
		And as a scientist, I have some reservation.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		We will get into the sort of physiological aspect of it here in a moment, but you actually, yourself, you mentioned the Philadelphia experiments.
unidentified		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And I have, I tell you, I have these messages from people who have seen these entities in strange shapes and all the rest of it.
		One can imagine one of two possibilities, I suppose, right?
		That the MRI is inducing hallucinations because we are electromagnetic beings, so that's a whole lot of electromagnetic energy pouring into our heads.
		Or one might imagine that it's possible that the MRI machine is actually allowing a little glimpse of what might be around us all the time.
unidentified		Or a third possibility might be that, in fact, there might be a dissociation of the electromagnetic energy system of the person who's on the machine.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That sounded like the first one.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Repeat that, please.
unidentified		Dissociation of the person who is actually being tested on the machine.
		So it might not be the same thing as perhaps someone having a, I think you called it a hallucination.
		I'm not sure that is in a magnetic field.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that was a word.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Visions.
unidentified		I'm talking about something that might be very real rather than a hallucination per se.
unidentified		As a psychotherapist, I think of a hallucination as a sensory event that may not be consistent with something of this reality.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I see.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You also mentioned our souls.
unidentified		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You believe we have souls?
unidentified		Well, I think that's consistent with a lot of the religious perspectives and Far Eastern tradition.
unidentified		They call it the empiric in the Far East and the soul here.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, since we know that we are electromagnetic beings, then would it make sense, or does it make sense to you, that our souls are electromagnetic, at least to some degree?
unidentified		Well, in fact, we can measure them, and that's what electroenthalography is.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		We can measure souls?
unidentified		We can measure the electromagnetic energies that are associated with the life force, whatever that might be.
unidentified		And some people might refer to that perhaps as the soul or the etheric.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's really interesting.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		When you look at a person's body, is there any area of the body, this is a dumb layman question, where you measure more electromagnetic radiation than other parts of the body?
unidentified		To the best of my knowledge, it's consistent all the way around.
		Although, perhaps in the Far Eastern tradition, they might talk about chakras and that sort of thing.
		So there might be some extra emanations in those areas.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely fascinating.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Has anybody done, to your knowledge, a definitive study of side effects observed with MRI?
unidentified		No, not as of this particular juncture in time, and it's my understanding because there's a funding problem.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, also a funding problem, right?
		All right.
		Let me ask you about the physiological effects that you are concerned about.
		Obviously, without studies, we don't know anything for certain, but what concerns do you have?
unidentified		Well, the concerns that I have have actually been tested with rats and mice.
		And in my letter of concern that appeared in Hospital Practice, I documented, well, I submitted with my letter of concern over 40 references of scientists who had investigated the effects of electromagnetic energies, induced electromagnetic fields on physiological systems.
		And the three things that they repeatedly reported were as you had alluded to earlier in the letter that I had faxed to you, first one being chemical compromise, that there seems to be a misshaping of the molecules so that the molecules don't fit appropriately into the receptors.
		Now, it would seem that because molecules are charged entities, that these electromagnetic fields, I'm sorry, these magnetic fields would induce a stretching of the molecule.
		And then those molecules would not necessarily fit into the receptors, but then at the same time, the receptors are also molecules.
		And in many instances, the molecules may be peptides, which are little proteins, and the receptors are also peptides, which are little proteins.
		And so these don't seem to mesh anymore.
		There isn't that lock and key fit, which is very simplistic, but it gives an idea.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And then you're suggesting that the effects, whatever they might be, might not show up until a generation later?
unidentified		Well, especially with the genetic, any genetic compromise that may possibly come from MRI exposure, as the molecules would stretch, like peptides for instance and the related receptors, so DNA templates could also stretch.
		And the nucleotides that make up those DNA templates may be stretched because they're also charged species.
		And so in that way then, because the genetic templates serve as a mold, so to speak, for the synthesis of the peptides, then in fact we may have a problem beginning with the genes so that the,
		or the DNA rather, so that the DNA doesn't code properly for the synthesis of the peptides, then the peptides don't bind properly to the receptors, and then you start having physiological abnormalities.
		And this has been shown, for instance, with pain studies, that analgesia doesn't seem to occur after someone's been exposed to an MRI.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Can you discuss at all the temporal lobe of the brain and its role in perhaps paranormal and or religious experiences?
unidentified		Well, I think what I've seen in the literature is some of work that's been done in a variety of universities and think tanks where they're looking at just this type of thing.
		St. Laurentian University is perhaps one of them.
		And it seems as though they are able to induce near-death type of experiences or other types of experiences that might be consistent with entities or what have you, whether it's St. Laurentian or elsewhere.
		And it would seem that perhaps they may have turned on a trigger, a trigger effect.
		They may have induced a trigger effect that might spark various mechanisms that can perceive this sort of thing.
		Certainly the temporal lobe is associated with learning function as well as it's part of the limbic system, and so that's associated with emotions.
		And so when we start talking about manipulating that area of the brain, it would be very different, for instance, than the frontal lobe that would be more associated with higher order functioning, cognitive function, that sort of thing.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, again, looking at at least what I think are the two major possibilities.
		One, that there's a physiological effect and that's all it is.
		And the other, that it's very real, that the electromagnetic field is producing the ability to see what may normally be all around us.
unidentified		Do you give equal credibility to both possibilities?
		I would suppose so.
		I think that that might be possible.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I can't tell you how I preach on tonight, and I know that you do it at risk of some ridicule from colleagues.
unidentified		That's all right.
unidentified		I think sometimes when you're a pioneer and you're taking steps into unknown regions and waiving the path for others, sometimes it requires some risk-taking.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And that's an important point to end on.
		Again, I don't want to in any way suggest that people should not get MRIs.
		If you really need an MRI, the risk greatly outweighs, or the benefit greatly outweighs the risk.
unidentified		Absolutely, and certainly if there's clear definitive medical evidence that someone is in need of surgical procedure, then an MRI would very clearly provide the margins and the extent of tumor invasion.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, in other words, it might help the surgeons.
		It might save your life, or it might even decide that you don't need surgery and keep you off the operating table when you would have gone on otherwise.
		So MRI is a very, very important thing, but it's also a really, really interesting thing, the effects that it causes.
unidentified		There are risks, and I think that's the big point here, is that as with any medical procedure, there are risks with MRI.
		It's not a safe procedure necessarily.
		It has some, you know, some potential problems that can result.
		The genetic compromise, the chemical compromise, and then also cellular proliferation.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Not to mention the soul.
unidentified		Yeah, right.
unidentified		And that too.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Doctor, thank you for being here this night.
unidentified		My privilege.
unidentified		Thank you so much for inviting me.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Take care and good night.
		All right.
		Well, she certainly went out on a limb for us, didn't she?
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		I've got a couple of faxes that I want to read from people who work around MRIs and have heard stories.
		And then we're going to open the phone lines.
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		All right, coming up in a moment, we're going to open it up, and it's a who knows what's going to happen kind of night.
		Looking for people with MRI experience, technicians, people who've had them and seen things, people around large electromagnetic fields in general.
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art bell ▲ ● ▼		Now hear this.
		Hi, Art.
		I've been a regular listener in a fan for more than 10 years.
		When you mentioned the experience of the CT tech and the entities seen when the magnets are active, it really got my attention.
		I've worked in the biomedical electronics field for more than 20 years and have heard little snippets of conversations concerning weird events that really frightened X-ray techs in CT and MRI rooms.
		About a year ago, while working at a large university medical school in the radiology department, a good friend told me he'd blown my mind after work, so we went to a cigar bar and after about three stiff drinks, he told me the following story.
		While working for a major CT MRI manufacturer as an equipment trainer in 1995, he was testing a newly installed CT unit when a phantom device used to test penetration of imaging devices vanished from the room.
		No one else was around the room, so he was really confused by the event.
		So the next day, he bought a frozen whole chicken, a trick he learned years earlier at the supermarket to use as a test object while tuning the new CT scanner.
		He was working alone once again, but positioned so that he could watch the CT operate while he aligned and calibrated the scanner.
		He powered up the scanner and set the power level on low, then mid-range, and then finally the highest level.
		He said the test subject, frozen chicken, slowly began to vanish over a five-second period.
		When he jokingly told some of his colleagues about it, they laughed at him, all except one older radiologist who invited him into his office and asked to hear the entire story.
		He said the radiologist told him that he really shouldn't repeat the story, and that if he continued working in this field, he'd eventually see a lot stranger things than that.
		In fact, a lot of people transfer to another specialty or department because they are scared of the things they experience when working around high Tesla magnetic fields.
		I've known this guy for several years, and he's a serious, pragmatic type, and I believe this story to be true.
		And then just one more.
		Let me throw this in.
		My wife works as an insurance adjuster and frequently socializes with some of her business contacts.
		One night a few months back, she was having drinks with a group of people.
		Among this group was a radiologist who works for one of the largest hospitals here in Hawaii.
		Usually stoic and serious, this person became uncharacteristically drunk.
		Then out of the blue, this person proceeded to tell everyone about the white apparitions that he or she would often see during MRIs and CAT scans.
		The radiologist spoke as if this were a confession.
		When asked about it a few days later, it was denied.
		It should also be noted, by the way, my wife is a huge skeptic.
		Doesn't listen to your show.
		I asked her tonight, what are the chances of getting in to see an MRI?
		That's when she told me this story without any prior knowledge of what went on during your show last week.
		Strange how the caller last week was also from Hawaii.
		So you see why I'm now in search of any stories about this area or any of the others.
		So we've got a full open line night ahead of us.
		Let's see what we find.
		First time caller line, you're on the air.
		Good evening.
unidentified		Good evening, Art.
unidentified		How you doing?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm fine.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Where are you?
unidentified		I'm calling from Burbank.
unidentified		And first of all, real quick, welcome back to the airwaves.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, well, thank you.
unidentified		I'm an RF technician.
		I've worked in broadcast and in the amateur radio field.
		And I've therefore been exposed to high levels of RF radiation, which is very much electromagnetic.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, me too.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Big time.
unidentified		And one of the things that I had to learn before I got my licensing and everything was about the dangers to the eyes, especially the corneas, that high amounts of RF radiation.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But particularly at microwave frequencies, it can actually blind you.
unidentified		Yes.
		Because it causes heating.
		Right.
		And I just wanted to introduce, not that I'm a skeptic, you know, I very much believe in a lot of stuff out there, but that might be one of the possibilities.
		You know, people are seeing things because of, you know, great amounts of pressure.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Actually, put more crudely, you're cooked.
		Really?
		That's what it is.
		You're being cooked.
		It's just like a microwave oven, and you can look down a piece of, I worked with a high-powered microwave in the cable industry for a long time, and you can make a mistake and look down a piece of waveguide, which is really dumb, and you can go blind.
unidentified		Oh, and I know people who have worked in the military that have dealt with megawatt radar installations.
		That if they didn't duck every time the beam went by, they would basically die because of instant cooking, basically.
		But the point I wanted to make was: it's possible the physiological reactions could be because of that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's possible, but being an RF die, think about this.
		The Philadelphia experiment that ostensibly made a ship disappear.
		Now, what was involved there?
		Gigantic Tesla electromagnetic fields and rotating RF fields.
unidentified		So, hmm.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I would say either one are possible.
unidentified		Plus, there's a lot of anti-gravity experiments going on that I've seen on TV, so imagine what's not being reported, that basically, you know, zero-G is being simulated by high electromagnetic fields.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, indeed.
		Imagine what's not being reported.
		I really appreciate your call.
unidentified		Thank you, Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
		I can tell you what's not being reported, one of the things anyway, because I had it come straight over my head.
		It definitely was defying gravity.
		Now, I wonder just what kind of field you've got to generate to take a craft at least 150 feet from one point of a triangle to another, and have it defy gravity.
		What kind of field do you generate to do that?
		Well, I guess we all wish we knew that, huh?
		Wildcardline, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hi.
unidentified		Hello, is that me?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's you.
unidentified		Hey, it's Hollywood Bob.
		I've talked to you a few times.
		Anyway, welcome back.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Listening, no doubt, on the Mighty KFI in Los Angeles.
unidentified		Yep, for you.
unidentified		I believe it is, yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, that's an imposter.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You can hear that thing just about anywhere.
unidentified		It sounds great.
		It's really great.
		Anyway.
		And you know what's a really weird thing?
		I think I know your last caller.
		I think his name is George.
		I don't think he said his name.
		He's a ham operator.
		Did he say what his name was?
		No.
		Okay, I think it was George.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, George.
unidentified		I work on his repeater, and I'm Robert or Bob basically.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's an awfully small world, then.
unidentified		It's very eerie, because he works in a radio studio from what he told me.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		He works radio.
unidentified		Yeah.
		Anyway, about electromagnetic fields and stuff, back to that.
		You're familiar with the Jim Hitchenson's effect of anti-gravity using pulse microwaves?
		No.
		Well, actually, they showed on television here.
		I have a copy of the tape.
		You should actually acquire one of these tapes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Anti-gravity using pulse microwaves.
unidentified		Yeah, it's the same thing as they're working on anti-gravity with the use of a magnetic field that circles itself and it pulses it.
		And he actually points the smart wave antenna at an object, and it will float in the air.
		And he has it on videotape.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That I've got to see.
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, no, wait a minute.
		Now, wait a minute.
		Was this done over in Scandinavia somewhere?
unidentified		No, no, I think it's done near somewhere near Canada, I believe.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I may have seen the photographs you're talking about.
		It appeared to be hovering.
		It certainly was hovering in mid-air.
		They had an object hovering in mid-air inside a chamber.
		Is that the one?
unidentified		Yeah, even ice cream melts upside down.
unidentified		Did you see that?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Ice cream melts upside down.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Why wouldn't ice cream melt upside down normally?
unidentified		Well, the ice cream's melting.
		It usually drips down when there's gravity.
		When there isn't any gravity, it's floating.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, you're saying it drips up?
unidentified		Yeah, it's floating in the air.
		So I can take one trip to do that.
		We could all take a camera turned upside down and watch it the other way around and make it look like it's floating the wrong direction, but making the ice cream go all different directions, that's a little different.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's pretty weird.
		I don't know how long a trip it is from that to a full-size craft.
		Probably a little work to do yet.
unidentified		Yeah, I'm sure.
		Those crafts, it's weird.
		They work electromagnetic and people see weird things around, you know, the UFOs or whatever.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I think the best question is the one asked a little while ago.
		What has not been reported?
		How far has the research gone that they haven't talked about yet in the press?
		And the answer to that must be a long way.
unidentified		Yeah, it's strange.
		Those crafts emit light, too, as well.
		If you've seen it, the light is probably a byproduct of the craft because what they're doing is they're surrounding themselves in a light field and these vehicles actually have been seen penetrating solid matter.
		I've talked to one of your CI individuals that was on last time, and he got real scared when I brought that up, and he said, is that possible?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You said craft penetrating solid matter, like going into mountains, that sort of thing.
unidentified		Right.
		The craft that was trying to kick, the one in Roswell, it was halfway embedded in some rocks in the ground.
		And you remember the Philadelphia experiment, people were embedded in metal.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
		That's right.
		That's exactly right.
unidentified		Exactly.
unidentified		So when you pulse microwave at a certain frequency and put an orbiting field around it, what happens is it separates matter and makes it so you can actually penetrate that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
		All right.
		Thank you very much.
		And sometimes that doesn't work out so well.
		In the case of the Philadelphia experiment, you'll recall, human beings were actually embedded in the deck of the ship.
		Horrible thing to contemplate.
		Half of you in the metal and the other half of you up above the deck.
		And, of course, nobody stayed alive very long.
		But you can imagine how horrible that short life would have been.
unidentified		Horrible.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hi.
		Art?
		Yes.
		Hi.
		Hello.
		Call me Sparrow.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Sparrow, huh?
unidentified		Yeah, K-L-I-F, Dallas.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		We live in Dallas.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, Sparrow.
unidentified		Now, I have had eight MRIs.
		You have?
		Yes.
		I have multiple sclerosis.
		I was diagnosed in 1983, and I have had MRIs regularly since they were developed.
		The first time I had one, I had the most weird experience.
		I could not even get my balance when they were done with me.
		I was underneath it for two hours because I did brain and spinal cord.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Right, and you can't move.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		They don't let you move.
unidentified		Well, yeah, I stayed there for a little bit, and then my mother had to help me leave the room and leave the hospital.
		I could feel my body raising off the table, and it was the most incredible experience.
		But since I've had so many, I have also had many, many strange things happening, including seeing an angel.
		I saw an entire herd of buffalo on a city.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Wait, before we get to the buffalo, let's stick with the angel for a second.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How do you know what you saw was an angel?
unidentified		Because it was a young woman I knew very well.
		I know her mother and most of her family members fairly well.
		And she died a very unfortunate death.
		She had a very, very spiritual-based family.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Even so, I think technically you didn't see an angel.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		An angel, by definition, was never human.
unidentified		This did not appear human.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I know, I'm.
unidentified		But I knew it was this young woman.
unidentified		I see.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
unidentified		Um.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Have you seen...
unidentified		Very, very flickering, briefly.
		Yeah, hovering and not in human form.
		It was very different.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Did you tell the MRI technicians what you saw?
unidentified		Well, no, I have not told them anything.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What else have you seen?
		A herd of buffalo.
		You said a herd of buffalo.
unidentified		A herd of buffalo on a city street in Illinois where there have been no free-roaming buffalo for a couple hundred years.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Now, you saw these buffalo?
unidentified		I didn't see the form, yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, no, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
		I need to know.
		Did you see these buffalo while you were in the MRI machine or was this an after effect?
unidentified		After effect.
		I have seen many things.
		After effects.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That would get your attention a whole herd of buffalo down modern streets.
unidentified		It was awesome.
		And I ran screaming to my boss.
		You've got to come see this.
		And of course, she couldn't see anything.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Wait till you see this herd of buffalo.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What 20 Illinois town was this?
unidentified		In Bloomington, Illinois.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Bloomington, that's right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Pretty modern town, right?
unidentified		It's a pretty modern town.
unidentified		Now, there are a couple of people there who are doing things with Native people and who are now raising buffalo.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but still not.
unidentified		They're not running.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Not herds of buffalo.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's not a regular thing.
unidentified		No.
		And they were running, and they were headed west.
		So now what in the world?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And so you ran and got your friend and said, oh my God, check out the herd of buffalo.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And your friend said, sparrow.
unidentified		You cannot see it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I've got cars, you've got buffalo.
unidentified		But you think it might have been...
unidentified		I have, since I've had all of these MRIs, I have experienced a new connectedness and it's kind of a quantum physics as that affects biological beings tenfold from what I had ever experienced before.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		In other words, you're in the world of paranormal, period.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And you think you've got the MRIs to thank for it.
unidentified		Maybe so.
		Maybe so.
		I don't really know.
		I do know that after I started having them, my whole focus on life and everything changed.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		In Bloomington, when you saw the Buffalo, did you see the Bloomington buildings and the street?
unidentified		I was in a neighborhood.
		There were houses.
		Yeah, I could see them.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So you could see the houses, modern.
unidentified		See the houses, but it was like you could see Buffalo.
		They were brown.
		They had color, and they were running.
		I could see muscles and heads popping up and down.
		And it was very brief, but at the time, it seemed very real.
		And I started wondering if I was losing sanity, quite frankly.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I understand.
		All right, Carol, listen, I've got to run, but I really, really appreciate your call.
		Thank you.
unidentified		Thank you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's a result of eight MRIs.
		Now, I'm not sure if Bloomington was where the buffalo roamed in the old days.
		Might have been.
		The really old days.
		And so it might have been a hallucination, right?
		Or it could have been...
		West of the Rockies, you're all in the air.
unidentified		Hello.
		Hi.
		This is Wendy on Basson Island.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Where is that, Wendy?
unidentified		In between Seattle and Tacoma and the Pizza Sound.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, you've got some really beautiful islands up there.
unidentified		Yeah.
		Anyway, I just wanted to suggest that the potential changes people might experience with some magnetic stimulation could be altered consciousness, and that's a whole other debate.
		But I also wanted to point out something that they're using repetitive transcranial magnetic stimulation in the treatment of depression.
		And I have some, I'm a graduate student, and I'm studying this right now in the biology of the way the brain works.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So you mean they are using electromagnetic radiation to treat depression?
unidentified		Oh, stimulation.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Stimulate.
unidentified		Well, okay, but.
unidentified		Transcranial magnetic.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Stimulation.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, but to treat depression.
unidentified		Correct.
		George and Wasserman, 96, 98, I have the references.
		I'm actually studying this.
		I've got all the references here.
		This was actually a brief that was published, a preliminary report, certainly this is very They used sham simulations on patients that didn't get the treatment.
		They used a blinded evaluator who didn't know who got the treatments that were real.
		So it was well done in terms of the study.
		And it was done at UW, of course, where I'm going to school.
		They actually published the Department of Psychiatry and Behavioral Sciences, UW, School of Medicine.
		Anyway, they basically talk about how it alters the brain.
		And I think that it's just interesting because in the brain, the biology of the brain, there's a lot of changes that take place based on voltage regulation and channels that open in and out on the brain.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You betcha.
unidentified		You betcha.
		Neurotransmitters, which are even, you know, basically how the neurotransmitters function, how they replace, and how nerves move through the system.
		I suggest that this may have some altered consciousness in addition to that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I agree with you completely.
		Thank you very much for the call.
		Oh, absolutely.
		We're human beings, and the one thing we don't understand, I mean, we've been to and fro, removed and implanted on just about every organ in the body.
		There's just one we don't know much about.
		That's the one in our brain.
		We know so very little about our brains, and we only use a very small portion of them.
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art bell ▲ ● ▼		Heartburn big time.
unidentified		Guy in the back seat says, here, take a Zantac 75.
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		And he says, yeah, Zantac 75.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The heartburn relief, Doctor's Trust.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		A real gentleman, that doctor.
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unidentified		Remember the alien in the burrito?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		We kind of laughingly call it.
		Actually, some of the best alien photographs ever taken were taken by Dr. Reed, who had an encounter in the woods in Washington with this alien creature and the alien craft.
		Matter of fact, imagine Keith has it up front and center on the website.
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		It killed his dog, and he killed the alien, He thought.
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		It's a long story, and we're not going to retell it right now, but we are going to get a quick little tease and update from Dr. Reed right after this.
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art bell ▲ ● ▼		Now, even I don't know where it is with a phone number that I have, but I would have to kill you if you somehow got it, so I'm going to protect that number and the location of Dr. Reed.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Dr. Reed, welcome to the program.
unidentified		Hi, Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What a what a surprise.
unidentified		Well, I just thought I'd call you and say welcome back.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, thank you.
		That's very kind of you.
		You have some rather shocking news, don't you?
unidentified		Well, we brought out on your program all of the DNA analysis of the blood and tissue samples that I had analyzed in regard to this alien creature that I found.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
unidentified		And we reported that information and gave you that that would be in fact published.
		A member of that team came forward and talked on your program.
		Well, since that has happened, all of those people are now gone.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		They're dead.
unidentified		Dead?
unidentified		there as in dead.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Wait, how many people are we talking about here?
unidentified		We're talking about three team members that did the actual analysis.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And they're dead?
unidentified		They are dead.
unidentified		And this is documented and can be verified and looked up.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, we'll do that on a future show.
		I'm going to have you on.
		I just wanted to have you on to tell everybody that's that's horrible.
unidentified		Not only that, but I have three other independent researchers who have met these people prior to them dying who are willing to talk to you and anyone else and give their testimonies as well.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		My God, I'm surprised, considering the fate of the first three, that anybody else would be willing to talk at all.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		In fact, I'm surprised you're not somewhere off the coast of New Zealand right now on a private little island.
unidentified		Well, in some respects, I am.
unidentified		But I will say, the truth has a way of surfacing, and I haven't gone away, and the people know that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, look, if whoever it is who's following your story, and if they have killed three people, doctor, then obviously your continued physical good health, I would say, is in serious jeopardy.
unidentified		I have been threatened, shot, run off the road, chased through malls, beat up, and worse.
		And that also needs to be discussed.
		And this isn't something that just can be verified by my words.
		There are many other people now involved in this investigation.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Did I give a tiny little good encapsulated version of your story?
unidentified		Yes.
unidentified		I think the encounter now equals about 20% of what has now since taken place.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		In other words, it was weird and strange as it was.
		It's only now a small part of the story.
		Your life has been turned upside down.
unidentified		Yes, I feel that I am in definitely harm's way every single moment.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Doctor, I have your phone number, and I will, on a future show, call you and arrange to have these people on while they're still drawing breaths, and we'll try and get the story out.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How's that?
unidentified		That's good.
		We have made a great deal of effort to protect these people, but also as far as videotaping their interviews and sending them all over the world also.
		So this is not just a matter of taking these Few people out.
		There are now hundreds of people that have this information, and it is coming out.
		There are extra people's websites.
		There have been other books now written with this information in it, and there will be more and more coming out.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, Doctor.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Expect to hear from me shortly.
unidentified		Okay, I will send you that information that you asked for, and then we will talk.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, indeed, we will.
unidentified		And again, I am, thank God you're back on the air.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, doctor.
		Thank you very much.
		Dr. Jonathan Reed, a very, very now famous story of an alien encounter of the fourth kind, even though it was not strictly an abduction.
		He got into a fight with an alien.
		His dog died.
		It's a long story, but it's an incredible story.
		And apparently, a lot has occurred since.
		So we'll be in touch with Dr. Reed.
		I thought you might want to hear that.
		First time call online, you're on the air.
		Good morning.
unidentified		Good morning.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi, where are you, Preytel?
unidentified		We're in Ohio.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Ohio, yes, sir.
unidentified		Okay, as I said before, I work for a company, and what we do is we do induction melting.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And this is induction melting.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Melting metals.
unidentified		And what we do is we have machines that create extremely high amounts of power in the range, like I said, of 2.4 to 2.5 megawatts of power at 180 cycles.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's a lot of power.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, like I said, at the hammupper, you can really grasp what that level actually is.
unidentified		And a frequent problem that's been complained of for as long as we've ever had these systems has been frequent headaches of being around the area too long.
		And even so long as if someone works too many hours of like a euphoric delusion and sometimes even really, yes, and even so far as a almost like a hallucinogenic effect.
		And the machines regularly cycle on the off hours of production on weekends.
		And a couple of the security personnel have made statements that they've seen, how should they put an apparition?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		an apparition or a It's induction melting.
		Yes, it's basically a...
		Describe the process.
unidentified		In other words, you take metal and you put it into a...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
unidentified		And it induces a high magnetic field.
unidentified		It accelerates the particles in the metal, causing the friction and thus melting them.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And you do.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What reason?
unidentified		We cast metal shapes and bars and different foundry operations.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Gotcha.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And it uses how much power again, please?
unidentified		About 2.4 to 2.5 megawatts.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Megawatts?
unidentified		Oh, yes, yes, yes, yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		At 180 cycles?
		Yes.
		That's very low.
unidentified		Yes, this falls into an area of the ELF.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, it sure does.
		2.4 megawatts, 180 cycles.
		My God.
		What kind of radio interference does that create?
unidentified		Significant.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I would imagine.
unidentified		Significant, yes.
unidentified		Well, I guess you could call it an interference, more of just a blocking than anything else.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So sometimes these things are on at night for some reason?
unidentified		Yeah, they cycle.
		And a cleaning cycle.
		We run 24-hour production.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Wow.
unidentified		And this is there.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And so you've personally talked to some of the security guards?
unidentified		Oh, sure.
unidentified		Sure.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Do you know the nature of what they've seen?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, how much did they open up?
unidentified		To the point of saying they've seen what they think to be employees.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Employees?
unidentified		Yes.
		And former employees.
		And, you know, take it with a grain of salt.
		And, you know, it's mostly, you know, as normal, a lot of things.
		It was dismissed with, you know, well, you're just seeing things.
		And I have noticed because I'm a maintenance electrician.
		And one of the things I do is frequently service the cabinets and go in.
		And I'm frequently in these fields and stuff.
		And yes, yes, I tell you, to get a grasp of it, when we purchase wire, we purchase like a 500-foot spool.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Right.
unidentified		And just something to do on the not quite so busy time, you can tie a 12-volt automotive wire or light bulb across the two ends of this.
unidentified		Walk up on the field, up near the induction melting field.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And on and ba-woosh.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		There it is.
unidentified		If you get too close, pop.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's really a high-power.
unidentified		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What about you personally, since you've been toying around with this in the manner you just described?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Have you had any unusual effects yourself?
unidentified		I have experienced the deck operator's headache many times.
		I can't point directly to it, but if I frequently work too long in the magnetic field at high levels, I've experienced not really, I guess, dramatic, but more of unusual type dreams when I work as I work third shift.
		I'm off on my break right now.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And so this is after you've gone home, I assume you're not sleeping on shift, right?
unidentified		No, no, no, no, no, no.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Not sort of leaning up against the inductor and doing that.
unidentified		No, no, no, no, no, no.
unidentified		This is when I go home in the morning.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And I do the two-part sleeping thing.
		Do you guys and gals, I guess, ever get together and discuss these, you know, these effects that you feel?
		And do you bring it, by the way, to your boss ever?
unidentified		Oh, I've talked with my boss, and he says, well, it's not out of the concept of reality, because I'm sure it could have some effect on your synapsis or mental function.
		His suggestion was, just don't stay in it too long.
		I said, yeah, that's pretty true.
		So I was just curious if any of your callers or if any of your guests or anything had heard of anything or any kind of effects of this.
		And just toss it out there.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hey, listen, you're talking about exactly what we're discussing tonight.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you very much.
unidentified		Okay, well, it was good talking to you, Art.
unidentified		I am glad to have you back.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, glad to be back.
		All right, 2.4 megawatts or more at 180 cycles.
		My God, that's a lot.
		And there you are.
		Strange Things happen.
		Now, is it affecting the brain?
		Possibly.
		Or is it creating an immediate field that's allowing these things to be seen?
		Either one or both are possible, aren't they?
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unidentified		Hi.
unidentified		Hello, Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello.
unidentified		Yes, this is Ann in Springfield, Missouri.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How are you doing, Ann?
unidentified		Fine, thank you.
unidentified		I listen to you on my CC Radio at WOAI in San Antonio, WLS in Chicago, and 1100 Akron, Ohio.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		CC Radio will do that with ease.
unidentified		It's wonderful.
		Yes.
		I have a dimensional experience story for you.
		Oh.
		Back in 1992, I was living in the Colorado Rocky Mountains, and this was in November of 92.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		I lived on the side of the mountain, the Continental Divide, just below Timberline.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Right.
unidentified		It was about 11.30 at night.
unidentified		I had been in Breckenridge visiting some friends of mine.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Excuse me, just below Timberline at about what altitude then?
unidentified		About 11,000 feet.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		11,000, that's way up there.
unidentified		Yeah.
unidentified		Very thin air.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, indeed.
unidentified		It was about 11.30 at night.
		I'd been visiting some friends in Breckinridge and was on my way home in my four-wheel drive truck.
		It was a very quiet evening, no moonlight yet.
		Nice fresh snow fall.
		You know how quiet it gets in the mountains or the desert after a rain or a snow.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I do indeed.
unidentified		And while heading up Hoosier Pass toward my home, I saw an object in the air.
		Of course, at my angle, it was easy to see in the air because I was headed up the side of the mountain.
		And I figured that this object was probably an airplane because I saw red lights.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Right.
unidentified		Now, this may sound crazy.
		My former husband was a pilot, and we owned numerous aircraft, so I was accustomed to seeing lots of different kinds of aircraft.
		I figured it was some sort of an aircraft that had a sign behind it, like Edith Joe's or something.
		It was illuminated, or, you know, Steve Breckinridge.
		The only problem with that was there were no houses, no roads, or anything from where I was at way over to the other side of the Continental Divide on where Leadville is.
		There's nothing.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		There wouldn't be a lot of people seeing me out touch.
unidentified		You got it, exactly.
		Well, so I come back across the switchback, and I'm coming back around, and I figure, well, I see it again, and I figure it's got to be a helicopter because it's basically in the very same position was at before.
		Come back around the switchback again, and it's still there.
		So I stop my truck, I get out of my truck, put the emergency brake on, and I'm standing there looking at this, and I go, my God, this is a UFO.
		It looked like a saucer or a hat, and it had these rotating red lights that went around it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Holy smokes.
unidentified		Yeah.
		So I thought, okay, you know, this is really cool.
		I finally get to see my first UFO.
		And I keep my eyes on it.
		I literally would not take my eyes away from this craft.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I understand.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You get sort of transfixed.
unidentified		Yeah, it's amazing.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, thank you.
unidentified		And it's so quiet, you know, and it's just there and there's no vehicles or anyone else around.
unidentified		I know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You go into a kind of a shock, actually.
unidentified		Exactly.
unidentified		So I'm staying there for about two minutes and suddenly it just disappears into thin air and I'm in very thin air.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Not flying away, just disappearing.
unidentified		It vanishes, okay?
		It doesn't.
		And so I move my eyes down and I figure, well, it's gone real quickly behind a mountain, but there was nothing below where it had been where my eyes were.
		It was all still stars.
		I don't think anybody's ever said this or not before.
		I feel like that these beings that had been watching me, they were watching me.
		I know that.
		And I feel like I was an ancient woman standing in front of an ancient fossil-fueled truck.
		In other words, I was a ghost.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What makes you think, well, I guess the aspect of it that it simply disappeared rather than floating, flying away, doing whatever, it just disappeared.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You think it was dimensional, huh?
unidentified		Yes, I feel like eventually it had slipped through, like, you know, when you're walking in a castle and you suddenly see this ghost and it stops and it looks at you and you look at it and then it vanishes.
unidentified		I was the ghost.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Why do you think they were interested in the fossil fuel burrow?
unidentified		I don't know.
		That's a good question.
		But there I was.
		I got out of my truck.
		Now, I wouldn't flash my lights.
		I was afraid they'd, you know, want to pick me up or zap me up or something, beat me up.
		So I didn't wave or I just stood there quietly.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Good point.
		I mean, others have, in a situation like yours, actually run out and run under the craft.
		And what did he get for his effort?
		Abducted.
		So you're right.
unidentified		I went home that day, that even that night after that.
		I was very calm.
		I thought, well, that was really cool.
		I see my first UFO.
		And then this bump appears on my arm, Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh.
unidentified		Yeah, a little tiny bump, not very big.
		They've never been there before.
		I need to go to a scientist or a physician, have it removed to see if there's anything in there.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Right.
unidentified		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Right.
unidentified		I know they wouldn't be interested in me because I'm not capable of reproducing, so I don't think they're interested in, you know, probing me or anything.
unidentified		But I was too calm after the whole thing happened.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So in other words, obviously something more occurred to you, something you don't consciously recall.
unidentified		I think so.
		And so does my husband.
		He's really into UFOs, and he says, definitely.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, so did you ever go to the doctor for your body?
unidentified		Not yet.
unidentified		I'm afraid to.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How long ago did this occur?
unidentified		1992 in November.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And you've still got the bump?
unidentified		Still got the bump.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And it's on your arm?
unidentified		It's on my arm.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And it came immediately after this experience.
unidentified		Immediately.
		Like the next day, you know, I'm about to take a bath on tomorrow.
		I go, what is this?
		Where did this come from?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Any other effects since then that you might ascribe to the bump?
unidentified		No.
unidentified		No.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Are you your same old self?
unidentified		Yes.
		But like Jim Morrison said, this is the strangest life I've ever seen.
		I'd ever know.
		Yes, indeed.
		But I do enjoy your show, and I just had to tell you about this because I was the ghost.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I understand.
unidentified		They were listening through time, through the curtains of time.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And you were the one.
unidentified		I was the ghost.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I understand.
		To them, you may have looked just the way they look to you.
		I mean, the same sort of dimensional, shifting, not quite full reality type thing.
unidentified		Exactly.
unidentified		Or maybe they were touring the Earth in another time period and slipped through that curtain of time and are looking back like they're in a castle and there's this being standing there and there I was and I was the ghost.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, if the bump suddenly begins to ripple and something with large teeth fights its way out of you, I need a call right Away.
unidentified		I'll do that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, thank you.
unidentified		Thank you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Take care.
		Just a little bump.
		Would you go to the doctor?
unidentified		I don't know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's a pretty strange story.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hello.
		Hi, Art.
		Hello.
		I'm calling up.
		I have an uncle of my family that worked out at Groom Lake in the early 50s.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Broom Lake, area 51?
unidentified		Yes, was probably not his area 51 now.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		He was a centrifuge operator.
		Centrifuge.
		Yeah, basically what he did was spin pots around.
		This guy gas at G-rating is what he told me.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		He's spun once?
unidentified		They would sat inside of a compartment.
		I'm sure if people sent for them, you know what I'm talking about.
		They sat inside of a compartment.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, in order to give a G-test, you mean?
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, uh-huh.
unidentified		They would black out and all that stuff.
		He said they always blacked out and bombed it sometimes stuff.
		But anyway, he said that during the time when he was working there, that the area was under quite a bit of construction.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Listen, I'm going to have to ask you to hold on through the break.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Can you do that?
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, hold on.
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		Otherwise, you have a great time.
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art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm still thinking about 2.4 megawatts at 180 cycles.
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		We're talking about all manners of entities tonight, MRIs, strange encounters of the time kind, dimensional encounters, those encounters of the fourth kind, and people who have been around, worked around, Area 51 here in Nevada.
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		Anyway, that's what we're taking tonight, so if you have a story for us, an interesting story, hop on the lines and let's have at it.
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art bell ▲ ● ▼		Back into the night with all of you.
		And again, we're depending on your calls this night on exactly the kind of thing that we've been talking about all night long, all of these areas.
		And back now to the Area 51 story.
		You're back on the air again.
		Thanks for holding on.
unidentified		Yes, well, anyway, getting to Robert's story.
		He had a time that he worked there for 15 years, and he was the symmetry operator, one of them, senior master sergeant Air Force.
		And he would send me from time to time pictures and stuff that he had taken and nothing really out of this world type of thing, but just a saucer to a craft.
		They were working well.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's pretty out of this world.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		He sent you pictures of saucer-shaped stuff they were working on at Area 51?
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And what have you done with these pictures?
unidentified		I still have them, but I've seen them before on television.
unidentified		Basically what they were, it was a round, saucer-shaped cab had the United States Air Force, rode on it, and had a pilot in the center of it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And, well, I haven't seen these on television.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Where do you see them on TV?
unidentified		Well, I've seen them on the discussion channel before.
unidentified		Really?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, I know, but not with the kind of story to go with it that you have.
		I mean, this was a relative of your sending these photographs out of...
		You're not supposed to exactly have a camera in there.
unidentified		Well, what he told me was back in the time when he was there, it was somewhat a little bit lax from time to time.
		But anyway, getting on to his story, he said that there was quite a myriad of things that were going on.
		There was a lot of construction going on.
		And during that time that they stepped from the stove, he heard they were working on some type of high magnetic field type technologies and stuff.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Wouldn't surprise me.
unidentified		And that they had quite a large importation of liquid nitrogen.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Liquid nitrogen, keeping stuff cool.
unidentified		Yeah, extremely cold.
		I guess.
		anyway, he had said that he worked inside the development of the SR-71 and it was flown out of there.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
unidentified		And he said then the time they were working on SR-71 that they were also working on another craft that was framed configuration, configuration basically of this wing type triangle type aircraft.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Triangle.
unidentified		Make sure people see.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And, all right, well, listen, sir, I'm going to have to scoot, but would you do me a big favor?
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You dig up those pictures, get some copies made, and get them to me.
unidentified		Oh, I'll do it.
unidentified		That's that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And do it with the story, too, about how you got them, all right?
unidentified		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, thank you.
		Sometimes you see photographs like that, whether you've seen them somewhere or not on TV, are extremely important when you have the chain of custody to go with it.
		Mike, this man's relative really, really sent these from Area 51.
		That's a really important story.
		Here's something for your consideration.
		Hi, Art.
		With your many emails, you may not get to this.
		Oh, surprise, surprise.
		I'm not one for crawling into radio shows, so instead I'm going to write as accurately as possible my account of this chilling tale.
		My story was told to me by a dear friend about 10 years ago.
		The memory made me a bit fuzzy on the exact details.
		To this day, it still sends a rush of chills up my spine.
		Because it was told thirdhand and in confidence, I'm protecting the identity of the woman this experience happened to, where she worked, and the identity of my friend.
		In our community, we have a popular sports bar that is a very nice dining area for great food.
		Many people go there just around the lunch hour to eat, visit with friends, and watch sporting events.
		My friend, Sharon, not her real name, was an office manager in a clinic.
		I was told this story by her co-worker who came to her completely distraught after hearing it from yet another worker.
		Evelyn, not her real name, was a sensitive, very shy, religious type person.
		A kind woman, gentle, she decided one day to take a quick lunch at the sports bar, which was located close to the office.
		They served a wonderful lunch and had a long counter with bar stools, which made it easy to eat and return back to work.
		On this particular day, Evelyn sat at the lunch counter.
		As she was eating her lunch and sipping on coffee, she struck up a pleasant conversation with who she thought was just a nice gentleman sitting to her right.
		They exchanged pleasantries and chit-chat.
		As she finished the last sip of coffee, he said something that sent a shockwave through her entire system.
		He began telling her aspects and personal information about her life that no one knew.
		He told her exactly where she lived and that he'd been watching her and knew everything about her whole life.
		Well, she rapidly began to gather her belongings, pay the bill, and split fast as she could.
		And as she whirled off the bar stool, terrified, she looked into his eyes, and his eyes had disappeared, replacing them empty pools of light.
		He said, we're everywhere, and we're not going away.
		We know about all of you.
		This was not some enlightened being bringing her love.
		She described it rather as a menacing force.
		Signed Robin.
		Now that would do you in, wouldn't it?
		Can you imagine sitting there, can you imagine sitting there, having somebody tell you about your whole life, and then that they're everywhere, whoever in the hell they are, and then having the eyes disappear, completely disappear, into simple, empty pools of light?
		What did she encounter?
		West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hello.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello there.
unidentified		How you doing tonight, Art?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm doing all right, sir.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Where are you?
unidentified		I'm in Grand Spass, Oregon.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Grand Pass?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
unidentified		Absolutely.
unidentified		I actually worked with some old friends of yours.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I bet you have.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		As you know, we're on the new FM station there.
unidentified		Yes.
unidentified		Actually, I listen to you over the internet.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, really?
unidentified		Okay.
		Well, I have been working several years on a business plan for doing a theme restaurant based on extraterrestrial existence.
		One of my goals was to create a full-scale replica of a UFO and to make it levitate.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		To make it levitate.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You mean this was going to be in the restaurant or this was going to be the restaurant?
unidentified		It was going to be in the restaurant.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		In the restaurant.
unidentified		It was going to seat about 150 people.
		It was going to have a virtual abduction ride.
		And it would be enclosed in a 10-story building.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Alien burgers, I'm sure, and such.
unidentified		Yeah, and such.
unidentified		So I contacted a physicist at the National Magnetic Laboratory Research Institute, and he and I worked up a plan to make this happen.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You mean, you call this guy and you say, look, I'm having this alien-themed restaurant, and I need something to levitate, Doctor.
unidentified		Absolutely.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And he went along with it.
unidentified		I emailed him and gave him the gist of the plan, and he said that it was possible.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but, well, I mean, they're working real hard on anti-gravity and levitation all over the world right now, and he's going to do it for your hamburger joint?
unidentified		Well, you know, the Levitron is out there.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		And it's a similar principle.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, I certainly know about the Levitron.
unidentified		Absolutely.
		You know, you just simply, with electromagnets, levitate this building that's built out of composite materials, so it's extra light.
		And on three posts, you have extra magnets that basically hold it aligned.
		So it kind of constantly spin that would keep it centered.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I understand.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
unidentified		And it was pretty interesting.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So what came of it?
unidentified		What came of it?
		Oh, I'm still working on it.
		I'm still plugging away.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You don't have it yet, I take it.
unidentified		Don't have it yet.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So this was basically a big plug for your E.T. restaurant.
unidentified		Absolutely.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Right, off my phone lines.
		Alien burgers.
		Does that sound good to you?
		If you saw something on a menu and it was called an alien burger, would you be likely to order it?
		Probably not.
		Along with fries, crispy, skin scrapings.
		First time calling the line, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hello.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello.
		Going once.
		Going twice.
unidentified		Gone.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Wildcard line, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hi.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello.
unidentified		Hi, my name's Matt, and I'm calling from Columbia, Missouri.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, Matt.
unidentified		And I've been listening to your show for, well, about a month now, and I swear it's the best thing I've ever heard.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It is.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It is different.
unidentified		Yeah, I didn't know this kind of thing was out here.
unidentified		I thought I was 21, you know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, no, there are many of us.
unidentified		I'm realizing that, you know.
		Well, anyway, about the MRI thing, people kind of getting off the subject and everything.
		I was going to talk about my mother.
		I'm on a cell phone, so it's kind of hard to, you know, talk back and forth through here.
		But my mother, when she was having my little brother at Columbia Hospital, or one of the Columbia hospitals, I won't say the name or anything.
		There was a woman beside her that was getting ready to have a baby also.
		And in the middle of the night, you know, maybe this could have some kind of radiation or something, but my mom also did have like a, well, she did die for a few minutes and came back.
		She saw a tunnel and light and everything else.
		She didn't like to talk about it that much, but anyway, when she was in the hospital, I had my little brother, she heard the voice of a little girl.
		And she didn't think anything of it.
		She heard like mommy.
		And she was like, well, maybe I'm just hearing things, you know?
		So a little bit, you know, they slept for the night, her and her roommate.
		Next day, my mom said something to the woman next to her.
		She said, I swore I heard your little girl, which the little girl had come in, you know, the day before and talk to her mom and stuff.
		She said, I could have swore I heard your daughter say, mommy.
		And the woman next to her said, yes, I heard that also.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh?
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And that was kind of weird, but there's more to this also, is that, well, whenever you get a little bit of a I was just going to say, spit it out, but we're on the cell phone, so it's hard to get that in.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Go ahead.
unidentified		Right.
		Okay, well, I was just going to say that also when my mother was getting ready to go, she was going to have a T-section, is that her father, or I'm sorry, her grandfather was a doctor, and his father was a doctor, and she saw them both over her talking about what the procedures were and what's going to happen and things like that.
		And I thought it was really interesting.
		But I also want to tell you, Art, that I've seen lots of things in my lifetime.
		I'm 24 years old.
		I'm kind of an amateur at this kind of thing.
		But our house that we have, we've seen light and the stringy streaks of light up on corners of walls, balls of light, stuff like that.
		And I think it kind of seems to center around my mother.
		And maybe she has some kind of link with the afterworld.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
		What do you think about that?
		Maybe she does.
		I appreciate the call.
		Well, I've talked to so many people who have done work with people who consistently have paranormal occurrences around them.
		They see entities and ghosts and so forth.
		And there is, or does seem to be, a clear association with certain people.
		So one could, I suppose, speculate that whatever it is is being created by these people or that it is created about them because of something special about that person.
		So it may not be entirely external.
		It may be a function of our living brains.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hi.
		Hello, Mr. Bell.
		How are you?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm fine.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Where are you?
unidentified		Tampa, Florida, sir.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Tampa?
unidentified		Home?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Super Bowl 35.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're on a cell phone, too, aren't you?
unidentified		Oh, yes, sir.
		Actually, I'm at work.
		I do a lot of highway work out.
		We're out.
		It's a pretty starry night tonight.
		It's nice and clear.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		Listen to your radio.
		You're a fantastic show.
		I mean, just.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's a little different.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		I try to break away from work as soon as I can, just if I could just get 15 or 20 minutes there, you know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Well, here you are.
		What's up?
unidentified		I had an interesting, I guess you would call it a loss of time.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh.
unidentified		I was about 11 or 12 years old.
		As far as I can recollect, the memory was me and a friend of mine, David Schultz, we used to go fishing at the Desplaines River quite often.
		And we were coming in one night, and we didn't see anything, didn't really hear anything, but we were just overwhelmed by fear and anxiety.
		And I remember myself, I was just...
		It was almost a paralyzing fear.
		And I was just so compelled to just run and flee.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Right.
unidentified		And we ran, we probably ran 10 blocks, maybe more to his house.
		We ran into his house, jumped in behind his couch.
		He locked the door behind us.
		We're sitting there, I mean, just huddled in fear, looking at each other, not quite sure what's happening.
		And all kind of lights just emanating in from two or three windows surrounding his house.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		While you're huddled behind his couch.
unidentified		While we're huddled behind the couch.
		The door starts shaking.
		Lights go flashing on and off in his house.
		And then the next thing I know, we wake up.
		It's probably two or three in the morning.
		And we're just laying there behind the couch.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And so how much time has passed?
unidentified		Probably four or five hours.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Four or five hours?
unidentified		Four or five hours.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And you suddenly wake up from this stark, crippling fear and things flashing and going on and off all around you and outside the house.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And four or five hours are gone and you wake up?
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Good Lord, man.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		They've had their way with you.
unidentified		You know, I can't tell that I've never had any physical phenomenon since then.
		I mean, I don't have any pumps.
		I heard one lady allude to a pump.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I've had a bump.
		But in your case, you were gone long enough.
		They had enough time to do absolutely seamless surgery.
unidentified		And to this day, I've just had, that's really the first time I've talked about it to anybody.
		And I mentioned it to my wife.
		I tell my wife everything, of course.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, and how did she react?
unidentified		Because she has a lot of paranormal experience in her past as far as ghostling entities and stuff.
		She's told me about a few things.
		But she, you know, the closest me and her share is, you know, she just really didn't know what to say.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I bet she looks at you in a whole new way.
unidentified		You know, it's funny.
unidentified		Since then, like I said, I never saw anything, you know, that I recall.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Is the person who was with you at the time still alive?
unidentified		David Schultz was his name.
		We were childhood friends.
		Like I said, we used to.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, is he still with us?
unidentified		I haven't seen him in years.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Too bad.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It would be really nice to have him come forward and corroborate that story.
unidentified		Well, I thought about, you know, since we live in the internet age and everything, of trying to get a hold of him one day, but maybe he'll hear this and he'll email me, but that's a hell of a story you've got there.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You felt absolutely nothing when you woke up?
unidentified		No, just confusion.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And what did you and David talk about?
unidentified		Did you say And that's an odd thing.
		We didn't even want to talk about it.
		We just kind of...
		We just kind of, you know, I went home to my house.
		He stayed at his house.
		And it was probably two or three weeks went by before we even got together again to do any kind of fish or anything.
		And I can remember just uncomfortable silences with him.
		And I think really neither one of us never really wanted to talk about it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Didn't want to talk about those things.
		All right, my friend, I've got a scoot.
		I really appreciate your call.
		Can you imagine that, huddled behind the couch?
		Four or five hours pass, you wake up.
		Like I say, they've had their way with you.
unidentified		When it's all right, it's coming home.
		We gotta get right back to where we started from.
		Love is good, love is strong.
		We gotta get right back to where we started from.
		When you first take my way.
		I said no one can take your place.
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		Hey, who said that?
		That would be me, sir.
		And I'm down here.
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	What is it, then?
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art bell ▲ ● ▼		On any given shift, I'd process 150 to 225 images.
		As you can guess, it could become a mindless task.
		One night I came across this image in a series, and it stopped me cold.
		There were four pictures of the cathedral.
		And in the third one, there was this image in the upper left-hand corner.
		It was not in any other.
		And this man has done a wonderful job, and I think even the pixel people out there are going to agree that there is no way this could have been faked.
		The original digital image was 25 megs and quite large.
		I propped out the object with the steeple in the frame for reference.
		I then resized the original, which is included here.
		It appears the image is moving from the right to the left side of the image.
		Anyway, just thought you might want to see them.
		Oh, yes, indeed.
		So he includes a very sharp original image taken of a steeple.
		And there's what appears to be something, oh, I don't know, the size of a balloon or the size of...
		By comparison, it's hard to say how far distant the object is.
		But then he does a close prop, including the steeple in the photograph.
		And obviously, it is a saucer-shaped UFO.
		And obviously, it has not been tampered with.
		I think it's an extremely clear shot of a UFO with a size reference in the photograph.
		And so you can tell how far it has been zoomed.
		So if you want to see a picture of a UFO that'll curl your hair, then you're going to want to go to my website right now.
		Let's see how many of you can take it at one time.
		Actually, the pipe now is so big that we think we can include all of you who want to have a fast look at this.
		Now, the way you see it is to go to my website, which is www.artl.com.
		Click on the what's new on the left-hand side.
		It's the first thing you'll see.
		And up on top, it'll say new UFO picture from a digital archive.
		Click on that and take a look.
		And feel free to email me and let me know what you think.
		But let me tell you, folks, I'm telling you right now, we've got a good one here.
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		Now, what do you have to risk there?
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		And I'm sure you'd be willing to put that on the table, right?
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unidentified		These are exciting times, little guy.
		Everyone's online today.
		Even your babysitter has her own website.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, no, don't touch, don't touch.
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art bell ▲ ● ▼		Back into the night we go.
		Open lines in all kinds of categories.
		For example, MRI effects, large electromagnetic fields, strange encounters of the time kind.
		Close encounters of the fourth kind, abduction.
		Already heard pretty chilling one of those.
		And dimensional effects on people.
		People who have seen dimensional portals open, that sort of thing.
		And of course, as always, Area 51 employees past, present, or maybe even future.
		Listen, I'm not kidding about this UFO photograph.
		You're going to want to go to my website right away.
		This is a brand new photograph never seen before, to the best of my knowledge, and a very good one.
		You think you can pick it apart while you go right ahead.
		But I don't think you can.
		I think this is a...
		And if you have a good one, I implore you to submit it to me, and we will add it to the ever-growing collection.
		You can reach me by email.
		You can send a photograph to Art Bell.
		That's me, A-R-T-B-E-L-L, at mindspring.com.
		Artbell at mindspring.com.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air, hi.
		Hello.
		Hello.
unidentified		This is Tom from Connecticut.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, hello, Tom.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How's Connecticut?
unidentified		Not too bad.
unidentified		It's kind of wet right now.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		We're wet here, too.
unidentified		I spoke to you earlier.
unidentified		My job is I move portable MRI units around in the New England area.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, you do?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's your job to move them, huh?
unidentified		Yes, they're a 30-ton unit.
unidentified		They put about 12 million gauges of energy, and they're on all the time.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		12 million gauzes of energy?
unidentified		Yes.
		And I move them all the time.
		They're cooled down with liquid nitrogen, or excuse me, helium access to about 200 or 300 degrees.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh.
unidentified		And to keep them cool, we also have internal environmental controls to keep the room cool, too.
		So they're big units, so, you know, the technical part of it, it weighs 60,000 pounds.
		And just to keep it cool, you've got to replenish this liquid helium.
		So to me, there's a technical aspect of using magnetic field to go against gravity, you know what I'm saying?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You must get to talk to MRI technicians all the time.
unidentified		Yes, I do.
		And since I've heard you the last couple nights, I'm going to interview some of the technicians and some of the engineers who work on it.
		The engineer is working on one here in New York tomorrow and find out if he's there alone at nighttime at 2 in the morning and see if he has any experiences to tell.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		If I were you, you know, maybe about lunchtime, I'd take one of these guys out and buy him a beer or two and see what you can get from them.
		I mean, it's not something they're automatically going to offer up.
		You're going to have to try it out of them.
unidentified		Right, right.
		But there is some therapeutic means I'm involved in magnetic field therapy.
		I don't know if you're Dr. William Phil Pott.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, listen, I'm very familiar with magnetic therapy.
		Sure.
		Of course, I would imagine it could work either way, really.
		And you would have to know what you're doing to make it work the right way and do something good for you.
		There are a lot of people who sent me, I have a bad back, and they've sent me magnet little lash-ups to wear, and it helps.
unidentified		Oh, definitely.
		There's some therapeutic because the positive side of magnet is not harmful, but it encourages bacterial growth compared to the negative side.
		It has three major aspects.
		It gets rid of pain because pain is acidic and the magnet brings alpha light to the area because the Indians also call the magnet as medicine stones.
		It's been known for a long time.
		It also makes you lose weight because if there's inflammation or water build up, it will get rid of it is the second thing.
		And the third thing, it brings oxygen, cells, tissue, or tenons that normally doesn't get oxygen.
		Yes.
		It normalizes the cell.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, I believe all of that is true.
		So you can imagine what a size of the one you just described in this 60,000-pound unit would do.
		You get these guys talking, and you call me back, all right?
		I'll sure do that.
		All right, thank you very much, and take care.
		West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Hi.
unidentified		Hi, I have an interesting story.
		I've been used, my name's Holly, and I'm over here by the volcano.
		I called the other night and mentioned the rapture.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Holly, you're by the volcano in Hawaii, right?
unidentified		Yeah, and I have that tone, and I think that's always going off because the volcano is always going off.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Uh-huh.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So the tone is nearly constant.
unidentified		I was, yeah it is, but I was used as a prototype by, um, voluntarily used as a prototype because I thought it was like an ascension thing, you know, that I was.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You were used as a prototype.
unidentified		I was a prototype to become like a, um, like to stop eating and to go into another dimension.
unidentified		Like to live off of air and hold it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Back up, Back up.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		There was something you were going to tell me that you didn't want to talk about on the air, right?
unidentified		Oh, that was you?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, what do you mean?
		That was me, of course.
		I'm the only one here.
unidentified		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm the only one here.
unidentified		Okay.
		Okay.
		Well, when I was.
		See, I have been remembering things because sometimes you forget and everything, because when you bring it back to this world, we're in a different kind of time frame, you know, and like you see, sometimes you just forget about it.
		But anyway, I didn't really see this, but I woke up one morning and I had bruises all over my face.
		And I asked my mother, she said, oh, you fell out of your bed, but it couldn't have been that.
		And after that, I had bloody noses a lot, and I was really afraid of needles.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Holly, what you told me was they, whoever they are.
unidentified		Well, see, that was later that I thought it was they.
		Put something up your nose.
		I think it's possible.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What do you think went up the old nasal passage?
unidentified		Like a chip or something, because I had bloody nose almost all my life for no reason, like not hitting it, and it would just start bleeding.
		And there was this little bump in there.
		But I've been through so much with the other beings.
		Like, I thought it was like the ascended beings and whatever, and I was like, fully buying it, you know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Have you checked with a physician?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, obviously, if you have bloody noses all your life and you have all these things happening to you.
unidentified		They said it was just this little blood vessel thing.
		But they didn't really check anything.
		But I have a lot of different stories that I'll probably call back for her.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, Holly.
		Thank you.
		She was pretty hesitant to talk about that, but when she was first on the line, she said something was put up my nose.
		Now, she finally broke down and told us here, but she obviously didn't want to talk too much about it for whatever reason.
		She said, oh, it's too gross.
		First time going on the line, you're on the air.
		Good morning.
unidentified		Hello.
		Hello.
		Hello, good to see you on the air again, Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, you can't actually see me unless you're looking at the webcam, but here I am.
unidentified		Here you are.
		This is my first time.
		I'm a little bit nervous.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's all right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Where are you?
unidentified		I am in eastern Utah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
unidentified		I'm northern.
		Kind of more in the north.
		But you're near what?
		Well, about five minutes away from the ranch that Nit owns.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The UFO.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You called it the UFO ranch, right?
unidentified		Yeah, that's what.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		We just call it the ranch.
		And I don't want you to really identify where you are because what happened is so many unusual paranormal things were occurring in this area and specifically around this ranch that Bob Bigelow purchased the entire ranch and sent a lot of investigators up there and some really weird stuff happened.
		And that's the ranch this gentleman is talking about.
		We don't really want to disclose the location of it because we don't want a lot of tourists.
		But you live near it.
		What's happened to you?
unidentified		Well, I think it was 1996, my brother had just returned from college and I had gotten up in night to use the bathroom and I wear contacts.
		And when I was walking back into my bedroom, some bright lights caught my attention outside of my window.
		So I observed them with my contacts out for a moment and could tell that they were doing some strange movement.
		So I put my contacts in and observed them more.
		I could tell they weren't stars, they weren't vehicles, either cars.
		They were orange on the outside and blood-red in the middle.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You mean like glowing orbs?
unidentified		Yeah, yeah.
		And they were far away.
		They'd have to at least mile.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Orange on the outside and blood-red on the inside.
unidentified		Blood-red in the center, and it diffused.
unidentified		It just kind of got dimmer, and as it did, it got more orange than red.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And what were they doing?
unidentified		They would start up, dance around, wiggly lines, kind of things.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's the kind of stuff they saw at the ranch.
unidentified		Okay.
		And I want to make this brief because there's so many things that's happened.
		But I woke up my brother, and he and I both witnessed what happened next.
		For about a mile east of my house, it's nothing but brush and olive trees, just a grove.
		And there's a tree line where a hill dips down into a kind of a valley plate.
		And they would dip down below that tree line and come back up again and do some circles and things.
		But there was just one in the beginning that my brother and I both witnessed, quite incredible.
		He was skeptical until I saw this.
		A very, I don't want to call it dim, but maybe translucent.
		I'm not sure how described it, orange glow.
		Just seemed to cover this tree.
		It didn't really cover the front of it.
		It was behind it and then above it, this glow.
		And it was a perfect half circle, and I could, I think through the tree that I could see that it was made a perfect circle, but I couldn't quite tell from the trees.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		It still kind of grew out from the center, kind of small big.
		And then another one of the blood-red spheres appeared, instantly appeared, and then center of that orange glow.
		As soon as it appeared, the kind of diffused dim orange glow disappeared.
		And then that one, the newly appeared red orb, joined the other one, admit an arch, and joined the other one.
		They kind of both danced up around each other.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're watching this from inside the house?
unidentified		From, yeah, with my window open, I'll screen out, yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Uh-huh.
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, so now there's a glowing arch.
unidentified		Well, it...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I see, okay.
unidentified		Up towards the other one.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		They both kind of did some.
		They kind of like danced with each other, which is what it was like.
		And then they did below the tree line.
		And after that, we didn't see them.
		Since then, I've been watching a lot.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Nothing since?
unidentified		Well, it might have been more, actually.
		Excuse me.
		I've spoken with NIDS myself.
		They've interviewed me.
		I've met Eric Davis and what is the gentleman's name?
		I have this card in my wallet.
		One of the most fantastic events that really I still have a hard time believing today, but I can't deny it.
		I know it happened.
		I was watching one night, and they were out again, and they were in different places all over the sky.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, this area is famous for the kind of activity you're talking about.
unidentified		I have an entire other story.
		I know you won't have time for it now, but about my grandmother back in 67.
		But I thought, I was watching the lights.
		I thought, why don't you come entertain the human?
		Why don't you dive bomb my house or something?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, you asked for that.
unidentified		Yeah, and it was pretty interesting what happened.
		I watched for about another 10 minutes and they didn't do anything different.
		You know, they were just doing their regular dancing and moving around.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		So I went to bed and laying there still thinking about it, and then I just thought, well, you're just getting way into the UFO stuff too much.
		I just let it go and go to sleep.
		And at that moment that I just said I'd have been going to sleep, this very intense, seems very loud, it seems very loud to me, a sound that penetrated my whole room.
		I thought it had evented going through the whole house and waking up my parents.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But it was just you.
unidentified		They didn't wake up.
		But what I first thought it was, I have a neighbor that just lives next to us that drives a diesel.
		And I thought, well, he's coming down our lane with it, with his engine brakes on.
		But then I thought, that's impossible.
		He wouldn't be using his engine brakes, you know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So, in fact, what was it?
unidentified		Going so slow.
		Well, it started at a very low pitch, went up to a high pitch, and then back down low again.
		I felt it through every inch of my body.
		Immediately I was overcome with very powerful sleepiness.
		I lost all vision.
		I lost any sense of orientation in three dimensions.
		I couldn't tell if I was standing up, laying down.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		Couldn't see.
		I don't think I remember feeling anything either.
		But it seemed like a long time to me, but I'm sure it was just a matter of seconds.
		My vision came back and I was still lying in bed.
		And it felt like going down in an elevator.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Any idea how much time had passed?
unidentified		It couldn't have been more than 20, 30 seconds.
		It can't be.
		I mean, I was very alarmed at that moment, and time seems to last longer, but it couldn't have been more than 20 or 30 seconds.
		But the feeling of sleep I had was so intense, it was like riding an elevator down.
		I could feel myself quickly falling to sleep, and it was almost unresistable.
		And it wasn't until that point, until I was just about asleep, that I kind of put two and two together.
		I thought, you know what?
		I invited them, and they're here.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I was about to say, you ought to be real careful what you ask for, especially when you live near the ranch.
unidentified		The ranch, yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And so the NIDS investigators actually came and interviewed you, huh?
unidentified		Yeah, yeah.
unidentified		At that moment, I got an adrenaline rush and I woke up, and I think I spent about five minutes drafting inside of my bed thinking I did not fall asleep.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I got you.
		Listen, we've got a break.
		It's at the bottom of the hour, but we'll do this again.
		You call me again, all right?
unidentified		I will, dude.
unidentified		Take care.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Don't touch that dial.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		We'll be right back.
unidentified		I've got to tell you, I've been racking my brain, hoping to find a way out.
		I've had enough of this continual rage.
		I've had enough of this continual rage.
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art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, good morning, everybody.
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		We're discussing tonight people who have seen entities, particularly associated with large electromagnetic fields, MRIs and such, strange encounters of the time kind, slipped time, that sort of thing.
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		So that's what we're doing, and we'll be doing that for the remainder of the show, and you just never, ever know what you're going to run into.
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art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, back into that dark night and the phone lines.
		Here we go.
		First time caller line, you're on the air.
		Cheerio.
		Hi, Arch.
unidentified		Hello there.
unidentified		Can you run all right?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		He said he could hear me earlier.
		Let's see if I can straighten this out.
		I'll try it again.
unidentified		Is that better?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, you are totally distorted and ripped up and torn apart.
unidentified		Was that any better?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, that's much better.
unidentified		I'm sorry.
		I had an ear piece and I was driving.
		Well, I have two things for you.
		One, last year I was driving, I think it was last year, I just, when you were talking about losing time, I kind of uncovered this memory.
		I drive a truck and I was driving back from Illinois, and I remember looking, I was kind of groggy, a little tired.
		I remember looking out the window and something catching my eye.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You mean a big 18-wheeler?
unidentified		Right, I drive a tanker.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Uh-huh.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, a tanker.
unidentified		Right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, we really love to hear about groggy tanker drivers.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
unidentified		Well, it wasn't sleepy.
		I was just a little groggy.
		You kind of didn't hear me.
		Anyway, I was coming back from Illinois going towards Indianapolis.
		I'm calling from Indianapolis.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Right.
unidentified		And something caught my eye.
		And next thing I know, I'm standing, or not standing, I'm beside the road at an off-ramp.
		And I'm sitting back in my sleeper.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Uh-oh, you're breaking up again?
unidentified		Oh, no.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		They know you're telling this story, and they're breaking you up.
unidentified		Is that better, Art?
		That's better.
		Okay, anyways.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Don't move.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Just stay right where you are.
unidentified		I didn't move the last time.
		Anyways, I'm driving.
		I see something out in front of my eye.
		Next thing I know, I'm on an off-ramp and I'm sitting in my sleeper.
		I feel like I just woke up and three hours had just elapsed.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, lordy.
unidentified		And where that came from, I have no idea.
		Another thing, I saw an entity last year, a rather frightening entity.
		It entered my house and walked down my hallway and walked between my children's room.
		And as I went to go after it, my wife told me not to.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		She must have seen it too.
unidentified		She did see it.
		Well, the thing is, the first time I'd ever seen it, it scared me to death.
		And I asked her afterwards what it was I saw, and she described to me exactly what I saw, and she didn't see it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, ask me how happy I am about hearing you just driving this big tanker and then suddenly ending up in a rest area, waking up, I suppose, huh?
unidentified		No, I wasn't waking up.
		What's the thing?
		I know when I get tired and when I pull over, and it's not what happened.
		I just, I lost three hours.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		First time callers.
		Area code 775-727-1222.
		I can't let you say that word on the air.
unidentified		I'm sorry.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's one of the few words that George Carlin said definitively you cannot say on the air.
		But I understand what it scared out of you, and so does everybody else.
		I appreciate the call, sir.
		Thank you.
unidentified		Oh, God.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		A tanker truck, yes.
unidentified		Hmm.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That would be a very serious loss of time.
		I bet he didn't tell his boss about that one.
		Wildcard line, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hi.
		Hey, good morning and good night.
		It's still night here in Honolulu, Hawaii.
		This is Chris.
		I'm listening at you from KHVH and close proximity to 19.5 degrees, the planetary hotspot.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir, indeed it is.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And I understand the volcano is really getting active over there.
unidentified		Well, you can, I'm telling you, the Earth is getting active.
unidentified		I've sat here in my studio numerous times lately, and I could feel shaking, like not a major earthquake, but a minor bit of shaking.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Tell me about it.
		You know, when you get a moment, an opportunity, look at the California-Nevada earthquake map.
		I'm here in, you know, not too far from Las Vegas, near the California border, and it's circling me like the wagons circling.
		You know, it's scaring me.
unidentified		Well, Art, I tried like heck to call you during your prediction night, and I just couldn't get through.
unidentified		The lines were jammed.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		But my prediction is that this is going to be the year of the big one in California.
		Okay?
		and it has to do with the alignment of the planets and astrology it has to do with uh...
		That was a seven-planet alignment.
		In fact, in the 70s, there was a book written called The Jupiter Effect, and the guys were scoffed at by the so-called scientific community because they were basing it on astrology.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, well, you're kind of drifting away from the topic we're on tonight.
unidentified		Okay, the topic, yeah, I'm just saying that based on that, we're in a nine-planet alignment now, and it's probably going to be this year would be the year that California is going to be shaken up quite a bit.
		The reason I called, though, is not about that.
		You're right, we've kind of drifted off, and you mentioned earthquakes and shaking and all that in the volcano.
		I've been MRI 10 years ago, and you mentioned having been MRI'd yourself.
		Yes.
		I went into this thing, and it's extremely claustrophobic, as you know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, it's terrible, yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're in a tube.
unidentified		I had to go into the best meditative state I could muster because I do have a mild case of claustrophobia.
		And, I mean, this thing was, oh, God, it was so scary being inside this thing.
		And I could feel this energy.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
unidentified		Okay.
		One of the side effects of this is, now, this is 10 years later.
		I haven't noticed any strange bumps or growths or anything like that.
		But I have noticed an enhanced ability, like, you know, when you pick up the phone before it rings and the person you're thinking about's on the other end of the line and that kind of thing going on.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Precognition.
		But how can you attribute it?
		Yes, but how can you attribute that to the MRI you have?
		Did it begin immediately following that?
unidentified		I'm saying since then, there's been, throughout my life, you know, at random you might have an occasion, you know, where something like that would happen and you say, well, that was just a coincidence or whatever.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, yes.
unidentified		But since the MRI scan 10 years ago, this has been going on a lot more than just coincidence.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's not so unreasonable.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, we know that an MRI is an incredible electromagnetic field, and we know that changes in the brain are possible, and we know you have abilities that you don't use, and parts of your brain you don't use, so it may have turned something on.
unidentified		What about you?
unidentified		Did anything like that happen to you?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, my back still hurts, though.
unidentified		Oh, I see.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		My MRI, sir, thank you very much, was my back.
		So I suppose they were not irradiating my head.
		Now, I've had some pretty abynormal experiences with my back, but nothing paranormal.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Hi.
unidentified		Hi.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello.
unidentified		My goodness, you get nervous.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Where in the world are you?
unidentified		I'm in Lubbock, Texas.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Lubbock, Texas.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh.
unidentified		Yes, and I can hear you in Amarilla and Abilene and all over the place.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
unidentified		Mm-hmm.
unidentified		Now, I want to tell you two, a really little funny one, and then, you know, the MRI thing.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, you have an MRI thing?
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
unidentified		But I want to do the funny one first because maybe it'll make me not be so nervous.
		Okay.
		Oh, gosh.
		I had the pleasure of being on another radio program with Whitley.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yes.
unidentified		And we were discussing all kinds of different kinds of things like you do with Whitley, you know?
unidentified		Started with alien abduction type stuff, and then we went on to other things.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Whitley knows a lot about that.
unidentified		Yeah, we were talking about implants and different things.
		And I'm blind, so I asked him this question, and I was really embarrassed because I thought, they're going to put me away.
		But I have a bunny rabbit.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		And he loves to play with certain things in his cage.
		And one night I took all the stuff out of his cage because, you know, I was going to clean his cage.
		And he likes to play while I'm cleaning the cage.
		And it's just, you know, it's just easier if you don't play while you...
		What could he be playing with?
		I took everything out.
		So I real carefully, so I won't disturb his activity, get closer and open the cage and stick my hand in there.
		And a little furry, a little furry ball rolls over my hand.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What?
unidentified		Just a little, well, it's not so little, maybe the size of a nice-sized lime.
		Yo.
		Just rolls over my hand because I just have my hand kind of open, like I always stick it in there, kind of open, in case he wants to sniff my fingers, you know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, he hadn't multiplied or something.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That wasn't.
unidentified		I thought, well, what?
		And it did it again, and I tried to close my fingers around it to see what it was, but then it just was gone.
		But I said that a little furry.
		Yeah, okay, now, it's just, okay, I'm going to tell you this.
		Don't think I'm too strange.
		But since your wife is a witch, you probably won't.
		But if there's something in here with me, and I don't know what it is, I say, what are you?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You were addressing the furry ball?
unidentified		Well, I didn't really say it.
		I just sort of thought it.
		You know, I just thought, what are you?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yo, furry ball.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What are you saying?
unidentified		Well, I'm a furry ball.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It answered it.
unidentified		Yeah, it just said I'm a furry ball.
		And I'm like, oh, okay.
		So then I'm telling Whitley this.
		And he said to me, that was a...
		They're called fuzzy light balls.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, but I can see as a cat would like a fuzzy light ball.
unidentified		It's probably kind of like a tennis ball sort of thing, but it's a light ball.
		But you can actually touch them.
		But, you know, people that see them probably don't reach out and grab them.
		But since I didn't know it was a light ball, I just let it roll over my hand and it felt, it felt, did you ever touch a chinchilla?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No.
unidentified		Oh, it's the softest thing in the world.
		It was the softest little.
		I thought, well, no wonder he loves to play with those things.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So whatever the hell it was, it disappeared.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It disappeared.
unidentified		As soon as I, you know how when you take a bite of cotton candy, how it just.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		Well, it was like that.
unidentified		As soon as I moved my fingers to get a, to sort of.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Now you're sure this was not your average dust bunny.
unidentified		No, no, no.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, no.
unidentified		It happened more than once.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		This was an intelligent bunny.
unidentified		This was a thing that was playing with my bunny.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I got you.
unidentified		And I'm just as serious as I can be.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I know you are.
unidentified		am and when I told that to Whitley I just thought okay because we're just talking about the strangest things you know that we and I don't really Well, ghosts, you know, I might hear them, but I don't see them.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi, now, you said something about MRI.
unidentified		Yeah.
unidentified		Well, this...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You love it.
unidentified		I'm not sure what it is about that sound.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So you're one of those people who, like, when you have some spare time, it's like, hey, man, let's get an MRI, you know?
unidentified		Well, after I heard that doctor talk about what it might do to your DNA.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, the doctor this morning, yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		Well, I haven't, I've had about, I'd say, three or four at the last one.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Some of them probably totally unjustified, huh?
unidentified		Well.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You talked the doctor into it.
unidentified		No, no, actually, I never.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You get me into that long two-buy love it in the doctor.
unidentified		I never admitted until the last one.
		Well, they were always so short before.
		But the last one I had was, they said it was going to be an hour.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		An hour.
unidentified		Yeah.
unidentified		Oh, good.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		An hour.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		An hour inside the bar.
unidentified		I can't wait.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You are weird.
unidentified		I am, I know.
		But see, it makes me sort of, well, they slide me in the case.
		It reminded me of a coffin.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It is like a.
unidentified		Okay, so it starts up, and I'm thinking to myself, oh, this is going to be so good.
		A whole hour of this.
		All right, so maybe a minute goes by.
		Maybe a minute and a half.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		And they're rolling me out.
unidentified		I'm thinking, well, hey, what happened to my hour?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Where was my pleasure?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Wait a minute.
unidentified		Oh, and I'm thinking, you know, if you have surgery, how, you know, you just, you don't know where that time went.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Uh-huh.
unidentified		Well, I'm saying, why did you turn it off?
		You know how much I wanted to be in there.
		Why did you do that to me?
		"Are you just playing a trick on me or what?" And they say, "What are you?" It's over.
		It's over.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's beginning.
unidentified		No, what are you talking about?
		It's over.
		I said, the hour is up.
		No, it was just a minute.
		No, you fell asleep.
		And I said, I did not fall asleep.
		I did not.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Uh-huh.
unidentified		I was late.
unidentified		And they say, yes, we tried to talk to you, and you just were absolutely unresponsive, except that...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So in other words, there you were for just a couple of minutes waiting for the usual warm, loving effect.
		Uh-huh.
		I'm not sure I really want to know, but whatever it is.
unidentified		It feels like it balances something in my brain or something.
		I'm sorry, but it just feels the sound is what I like.
		The sound.
		Okay, I know it's a horrible sound, but I like it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		A certain vibration, too.
unidentified		It's good.
unidentified		Okay, and you're all closed up in there, so it, you know, you get the, you get the bad.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And you're not at all claustrophobic.
unidentified		Not in there.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It sounds like you're really in love with the MRI.
unidentified		Well, I don't know if I want to do it again because I don't know where I went.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, well, you have a good point there.
unidentified		I mean, I absolutely went somewhere, but, you know, a whole hour.
		I mean, it's not as bad as three or four hours, and I wasn't driving a tanker.
		Thank God.
		Thank God I wasn't driving one.
		But I just sort of thought, okay, I wish I could remember where I went.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You must really like enclosed spaces.
unidentified		Well, some.
		Yeah.
		I was thinking if you could build your own coffin and get used to it.
		Not that I want to be buried because I don't, but.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, you could, you know, people, they don't think about these things, but yeah, you could go out and buy a coffin and try to get used to it.
		Oh, that's right.
		You know, spend a little recreational time in your coffin.
unidentified		Shut the door down.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Every day.
		You know, when you have the urge.
		Every now and then.
unidentified		See, I want that sound in there.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You want a sound?
unidentified		I want the MRI sound.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Coffins are generally quiet.
unidentified		Well, that doesn't go together, so I decided to be cremated instead.
unidentified		Because it's too quiet.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, there's a kind of sound with cremation, too.
unidentified		You mean like the sizzle?
unidentified		Like the freaking sound?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Like, listen.
unidentified		I don't know if I like that sound.
		Well, you'll find out.
		I guess it'll last a little bit.
		You know how they cook you for several hours.
		I might get used to it and like it better than I think.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I can't imagine they cook you for several hours.
unidentified		Oh, they do, because, no, I've taken the tour of the...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Listen, hon, I gotta run.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		This wonderful time we've spent together is up.
unidentified		It is ours.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		We'll just call you his latest plane.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Sorry, couldn't resist.
unidentified		Very old friends came by today.
		Cause he was telling everyone all of them and breathe the name of the gladest way.
		He called and called and heard him say that she had a walking scare until he square and breathe the name of the gladest way.
		Though I smile the tears inside of a burning Music I wish him a look in the saddle.
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		A TV station in Honolulu reports the 16 civilians aboard the USS Greenville last Friday when the submarine surfaced under a Japanese fishing boat were all major donors to a fund to restore the USS Missouri.
		The Navy confirms the tour was organized by retired Admiral Richard Mackey, a former commander of U.S. Pacific Forces.
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		The Coast Guard is suspending the search for the nine Japanese missing and presumed dead in the collision.
		This was the most thorough search effort we have ever conducted.
		Coast Guard Rear Admiral Joseph McColland in Honolulu.
		The U.S. Attorney's Office in New York that issued tax evasion indictments against Mark Rich about 20 years ago will now conduct that preliminary criminal investigation of his presidential party.
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		If McNae chooses not to seek clemency, there is no way he can stop his May execution.
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