Kathleen Keating, Father Malachi Martin’s confidant and author of The Final Warning, warns of impending apocalyptic events—10 million deaths in a single strike, three days of darkness, and a literal hell beneath Earth—while linking Vatican corruption, globalist groups (CFR, Bilderberg), and an Antipope-led one-world religion to the Antichrist’s rise. She dismisses generational sin theories but insists divine judgment will expose humanity’s moral decline, urging prayer over physical preparation. Art Bell speculates UFO revelations and end-times prophecies may soon converge, with Keating agreeing current events signal an accelerated timeline. [Automatically generated summary]
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Just in case you missed it, last night the announcement has been made, and upon my retirement, it'll be Mike Stiegler posting, posting, posting AM.
Posting, posting.
I think he's going to do a great job, and he is immersed in research on various topics that we constantly talk about here on the air.
And it's going to be rare.
As a matter of fact, you'll hear him this on Friday night, Saturday morning.
So I suggest you sit back and listen to a veteran broadcaster, many, many years, who will assume the reins of this show on the 27th of this month.
And will be here between now and then, actually, as well.
Now, see, right away, when it's one person, you could imagine they had a bad dream and interpreted that as reality or something.
But when you've got a son that's screaming, and then you go and you look and you scream, and you're both seeing this thing, you've got something else on your hands altogether.
A black energy being?
unidentified
Yes.
It had the shape of like an outline of a body, but you couldn't see form to it like you would, you know, skin or anything.
And that was the day he chose, because it was easy walking around.
unidentified
Well, it was, you know, it was, um, what's really odd about this the encounter was I have absolutely no memory of walking away from this guy, of leaving.
I sent you a video analysis of the video that you have that proves that the alien in the scene where I brought it home was in fact alive and playing possum.
You can actually see the whole facial muscles move and the eye blinking.
So in other words, even though you thought it was dead, when you examined the video carefully, and you would not have examined the creature carefully at the time, you thought he was dead.
I get it.
So now all of a sudden, proof that it was in fact alive.
unidentified
Right.
This was done by an independent source that we picked up through the International UFO Congress in Laughlin, Nevada that we were at in March 9th.
Well, actually, we have been sponsored by an independent, very, very tremendous gentleman to take this information to the next step, to the world.
We are planning a world conference where we are going to take my information with all of the supportive evidence that has been ascertained since I have given my information to other people.
They have independently researched it to a conclusion of fact where it absolutely, without dispute, can be looked at and seen for what it is.
In that whole encounter situation with the alien and the whole business that happened with your dog and Freezer and the whole thing, what is your, you know, as you look back on it, what is your biggest regret about the whole thing?
What would you have different?
unidentified
well i think if i wouldn't have been so emotionally drive and back when that first happened i would have directly taken at to a university emergency room the first body goes uh...
so that i could have initially documented it with every source that i possibly could have well of course you were emotionally distressed really doesn't do service to I was one step away from death.
Well, Doctor, I can't tell you what a pleasure it has been to have you on the air.
Maybe we'll get a show in before we go.
You never know.
unidentified
Well, we've got lots of new things going on and lots more to tell.
I mean, we found out some things about the alien, about some of the communication that was left over within me that was basically telepathy that was transferred to me.
And now through some processes, we've been able to try to decipher some of that.
Yes, I have a story to tell, and it kind of even goes in with the triangle thing.
But my husband and I lived in a remote area in Utah, and we were coming back from town, and it was snowing pretty hard, and we had a big 4x4 Ford truck.
And we were heading towards the Kaibab, and it's real remote out there.
And we decided to go and get some snow.
I mean, some wood.
It was about, I'd say, 12.30 at night.
And we were low on firewood, so we said, let's go out to the Kaibab where there's an old lumber dump and get some wood.
So we drove out there.
And it started to blizzard at that time.
It was snowing real, real hard.
So we get way back there and we pull up.
And first of all, let me say, my husband was the biggest skeptic in the world.
Not only would you be awake, but your adrenaline would be pumping.
unidentified
Exactly, exactly.
And we have a gray wolf, and he was in between us in the front seats.
And so anyways, we fell asleep.
And next thing I know, the wolf is growling.
And I had fallen asleep with my feet on the dashboard, and I was wearing cowboy boots, and it felt like somebody was putting a cigarette out on the bottom of my foot.
Yeah, his feet were on the floor of the truck, but his head was back.
And then the wolf started growling, and then at the same time he started growling, it felt like somebody took a cigarette and put it on the bottom of my foot.
Yeah, so then just at that time, we're outside of the truck, and UConn, our dog, was inside the truck still, and these 12 spaceships just came out of nowhere.
They just dropped out of the sky, and they were everywhere around us.
And this is true, my husband says, me and my husband, the same type, said, let's get the hell out of here.
you have one of our politics even with that i don't know that i do That's when we, the same thing when we started, I go, looks like a tail.
unidentified
And that's when we were, you know, just getting ready to get back in the truck when these lights, and each one of these vehicles had a blue, yellow, and a violet type light around it.
You know, like, it was hard to tell whether it was around at that point, but we did finally see it real close up, or what it was.
But they almost looked like bats.
And there was 12 of them.
We counted them.
And that's when we got in and we said, let's get out of here.
So we took off, and we were like almost out of control because we were so scared trying to get out of there.
Yes.
When we lost control of the truck, and it's like drove into an embankment and stalled, right?
And these vehicles are just right alongside of us.
And they were very thin on the outer edges, you know, real saucer-shaped, and very aerodynamic.
And they had like on each side, it was hard to tell because they would, I don't know if they were spinning, you know, sometimes or what, but they would have like three, I could see on each side three lights.
One was yellow, one was blue, and one was violet.
And I can still, sometimes I can look up in the sky and see those light, those colors.
What made you decide you were not going to do an interview?
unidentified
Because it's a small town and my husband, well, okay, when we left, okay, when everything was said and done and we left, my husband said, don't tell anybody what we saw.
And I said, Rick, don't you ever forget what we saw.
I said, because later on, we're going to try to find an explanation for everything we saw, and we're going to try to deny to ourselves that we saw that.
But you know, and I know what we saw.
And so, and we do.
We've always kept that agreement, and we, you know, we clearly know.
I mean, there's no doubt in my mind what we saw.
You know, it was too many hours we watched them.
And so it wasn't long after that that we were at home, and I was carrying some laundry into the middle room down the hallway, and I went to step in the middle room, and this electrical type energy, like, it wasn't dark though, was like almost sparking off the roof, and I couldn't walk in the room.
So I ran out to the garage where my husband was fiddling with the truck, and I said, Rick, come here, come here.
And so he comes in the house, and I said, walk in that middle room.
They might find something downright interesting embedded somewhere within you.
unidentified
Well, I hope it's something good.
But you know, the really weird thing about this is ever since it happened, I've been fascinated with triangles and pyramids and things like that to the point where, I mean, I just constantly draw them.
And I know you heard the one lady who had the encounter with the dark black being that was so big it could barely fit into her son's room with the red glowing eyes.
I hate red glowing eyes more than anything else I can think of.
But he appeared more human-like, so it wasn't quite that unnerving, except when you realized who the guy was.
And I think that that's something that no one will ever get over, even though, you know, Art, I've had thousands of emails saying, you've got to tell me the name of this man.
And no, I don't got to tell you the name of this man.
I think people are so darn curious that we get ourselves into trouble.
And for those listeners that didn't hear the show, we're talking about the Antichrist.
But let me just say that I was doing some research on this person when several hundred visionaries have mentioned this man.
And so, like a fool and an investigative journalist wanting to know the whole story, I started to do a lot of research and I actually talked to some of his people, which I think was a very big mistake because it wasn't long after that phone conversation that I was contacted.
And that's something that I praise God that the state of my soul at that time was such that he couldn't come in the house.
I started working on the Torn Sky Project during that time.
And basically what that is, is the screenplay to the final warning.
And it involves the end times and the warning that God's going to give us and the good and evil as they square off against one another in the end days.
And so basically he read what I had written about the occurrence and had listened to me about this visionary who said that another woman had verified this person the same way.
And it was basically, well, we know, so we're not Going to take it any further.
You know, just thank God that that was all that happened.
Let me tell you a brief Father Malachi Martin story that I don't know if I've ever told, I don't think I have on the air, but maybe I did once mention it.
There was a story I had, Kathleen, that I actually can't repeat now.
It had to do with the Vatican, though, and something they were doing.
And I called Father Martin about it, and I told him the story, and I sent him the text of the message that I had.
And I really don't feel comfortable revealing that right now.
But I'll tell you this.
Father Martin said, Art, I'm going to think about this, and I'm going to call you in about 24 hours.
And he did.
He called me back, and he said, Art, if you go on the air with this, you're going to get me killed, you're going to get yourself killed, and you're going to open up something that should not be opened now.
And if you have cable, I mean, shows that show nudity at 9 o'clock at night are sometimes replayed on cable in rerun at 2 or 3 in the afternoon when the kids are coming home from school.
And that's a bad thing that's starting to get kids too interested too soon, too early.
You know, whatever.
They're just being bombarded with the electronic media.
It was pretty much guarded as far as what she watched.
She was a reader, which helped, but then again, books aren't what they should be either.
I know that she got into her grandmother's collection of stories, and they were a little too adult for her, you know, and it was like, well, why are you reading in the middle of the night, type of thing?
But they'd hook her in, hook line, and sink her, you know.
That if we did not change our ways, if we did not stop communism, that communism would ultimately take over and that they would take over the Vatican in the form of Satan.
I'm confident of the late, very much respected and loved Father Malachi Martin.
And she has written any number of books.
The final warning, your survival guide to the new millennium.
By the way, there's going to be a real deal on that book tonight.
And I mean a real deal, like half the price or something like that.
Stand by, get some paper, we'll let you know about it.
I'm Art Bell.
unidentified
This is Coast to Coast AM.
You're listening to Art Bell somewhere in time.
Tonight featuring a replay of Coast to Coast AM from April 12, 2000.
Coast to Coast AM When in the springtime of the year, when the trees are crowned with ears, When the ash look at their birch on you, Are dressed in ribbons fear When hours cold,
the breathless moon, in the pool of the night The shadows of the dreams appear beneath the lantern light Be it sight,
sand, smell, touch, there's something inside that we need so much The sight of a touch or the scent of a sand or the strength of an oak when roots deep in the ground The wonder of flowers to be covered and then to burst up through tarmac to the sun again Or to fly to the sun without burning a wing To lie in a mellow and hear the grass sing all these things in our memory soar And
I need you to come to us, to follow.
Why, why does your soul take his face on this trip?
me Why take a big ride to the place of my sea it's all free I would say my fears I to risk my life But by now,
by now, I shall be right You're listening to Art Bell somewhere in time tonight featuring a replay of Coast to Coast AM from April 12th, 2000.
It is indeed by the way that little thing I related to you about Father Malachi Martin telling me that if I were to release what I had, it would get me killed, get him killed, and a lot more would come down.
I wasn't satisfied with having him tell me that.
I got my boss on the phone with him, and he told my boss the same thing, and my boss said, well, if it was up to me, I'd sit on it.
I've been sitting on it ever since.
So there you are.
Just so you know, my good friend Alan Corbeth was privy to that conversation as well.
I will never, ever forget it.
All right, once again, here comes Kathleen Keating, author of The Final Warning, Your Survival Guide to the New Millennium.
And the screenplay entitled Torrance Guy, and it might be an interesting way to try and sneak up on what's going to happen in the final days.
It's an end-time thriller.
End time.
Torr and Sky.
Kathleen, in this screenplay, Torrance Guy, what happens?
It starts with basically that everybody is feeling something coming.
It looks at an individual's life and how his life runs into the biggest machinery and the biggest conspiracy that's ever been in place in the history of mankind.
Every night, Kathleen, I have weird weather stories, and I hold them here.
Here's one.
Worst dust storm in a decade hits Beijing.
Fierce winds laden with desert dust buffeted Beijing on Thursday in what local reports said was the worst such storm in 10 years, delaying all flights, pushing grit through windows and doors, and sending people running for cover.
They said the storm, one of several unusually heavy ones this spring, was caused by dust rolling in from the northwest, combined with severe winds in the Beijing region.
Now, this is just typical of what I could read every day.
High winds in strange places, storms that virtually come out of nowhere.
And it really has nothing to do with the planets aligning either.
I mean, people are trying to pin that on that, too.
You know, and oh, God, it's going to be the big earthquake when they all line up, and here we go.
But that's not what it's about.
I think God is just allowing all of this to get our attention.
He's going to get us to our knees one way or the other because we have to turn back to him or all is going to be lost.
And the best way to do it, I suppose, is to strip us of our possessions, have floods take our homes out, and have us really think, well, we're lucky we have our lives we made it through.
But some people you'll hear on TV that say, it's the grace of God that I'm here.
But not enough of us are saying that.
And the last time you and I talked on the air about this, I said that we've been given some time.
not more so because she enticed you Well, I'm a big fan of beautiful women, and I guess not in every case do I really wish I could go to bed with this woman, but I can appreciate the aesthetic beauty of a truly beautiful woman.
Well, one can imagine the events you're talking about right now not as a result of the traditional fear of nuclear exchange with Russia or even China, but rather nuclear weapons or biological weapons getting into the hands of terrorists who would unleash them in our larger cities.
It does, and that's only a small piece, if you can imagine that.
You know, it goes beyond the contrails that we're seeing in the sky that don't dissipate.
It goes beyond just perhaps some sort of chemical agent being released in St. Louis or wherever.
It's more than that.
It's the whole world on the verge of madness.
Because we're going to see practically most of humanity tip over into insanity.
Without God, you don't stand a chance.
You can't be grounded enough.
And this warning that's coming is going to allow each of us to see how we look to God and what we have done.
And if we died right at that moment, would we go to heaven, purgatory, or hell?
And that's eight days of unending problems.
The warning itself is a small period of time, perhaps only a few minutes.
But if you experience your sins the way God sees you and you feel the intensity of heat that you would feel if you were in hell, that five minutes of time is going to seem like an eternity.
You know, if I go back in my career a long, long, long way, and I go back to an interview I did with John Lear, son of Bill Lear, who invented the Learjet.
We did a number of interviews on aliens, and toward the end of those interviews, John was talking about the human body being nothing but a vessel for a soul.
And that there would be fights over, that they were merely to be harvested.
I mean, some of that comes back and rings so true to me now when I listen to you talk about the nature of souls and the fight for those souls that is going on and will go on in greater magnitude yet.
The Church of England, I read a story the other night.
The Church of England, I thought it was strange, has upgraded hell.
In other words, for a while, it was thought of as not so much a real place, I guess.
But they said, no, hell, we are now going to insist, is the fiery place that we all have thought about, the place of torture that we all have thought about, the worst thing you can possibly imagine.
There is a real hell, and that is our new position, or our present position, whatever.
Well, that's like the place where before Jesus was born, we're taught that the souls died and went to limbo to be held until he was crucified on the cross, and then he set the souls free.
The 13th level being the closest to hell, therefore giving a little more punishment, quite a lot more punishment than the first or second or third level of purgatory.
And this is because we need to be purified.
Because we sin, and even though Jesus died for our sins, our soul maintains like that nasty ring around the collar that you can't get out, and that's where you go for the last bleaching process.
I mean, if you start at 13 and you go up to 7 or whatever, whatever.
And each level depends on the kinds of sins you committed.
I mean, if you had a problem with women wearing too many rings or too many fancy things and they hadn't a real attachment to that to the point that it bankrupted the husband or the father or whatever, they have to get over that because that's an imperfection that needs to be purified.
But they know they're getting out someday, so that's joyful.
Although they don't have their bodies with them, the souls take on a human body type form.
It looks just like you or me, the soul.
And that particular soul feels pain the way we do on earth.
So just because you don't have your body doesn't mean it's terribly, not terribly hot or terribly cold, or that you don't have to perform some lewd act for the devil for his enjoyment.
What we see in our disposable society are these people ending up on the street subsisting because they're having these visions or these delusions.
And I think perhaps we're going to come to the conclusion very soon that maybe these poor people that are suffering, are they actually seeing what's there that we are going to see when the veil is lifted soon?
I mean, that's food for thought.
Are they really delusional or do they have the ability to see beyond what we cannot see?
Scapulars are something that heaven has given us for protection.
You have to be spiritually prepared for what's coming.
There have been stories about people that have worn scapulars that the promise of heaven is that you will not go to hell if you wear that scapular.
and that's a very comforting thought especially with what's coming is this a time in which you would remain inside in which you would The warning and the three days of darkness.
The warning, you stay inside for eight days.
And the three days, of course, obviously would be the three days of darkness.
In fact, it could be her own church is ending and possibly all organized religion in the face of aliens.
So she is sensing something, just the wrong thing.
Now, listen to this.
Healer and clairvoyant Rosalind Beryer, I think that's French, remarked to Karen Wozlowski, quote, there has never been a group of people in religious ecstasy who did not think the world was coming to an end.
Their world is coming to an end.
Not the world, their world.
The world as they knew it will fall apart because the old world isn't going to be here anymore and everything you thought to be true is going to turn out not to be true.
Well, I've heard a lot of that, too, and Father Martin talked about that, about the supposed Aurora Borealis in 1938 that was visible, and people actually thought in Europe that the mountainside was on fire in Switzerland, and they sent out crews, and they thought Windsor Castle was burning because of this red glow in the sky.
But that was foretold in Fatima that that would happen as a sign of another great war.
John XXIII, Pope John XXIII, was supposed to have revealed it by 1960.
And Father Martin mentioned in his book, The Keys of This Blood, that perhaps the reason that he didn't was that it would have given Russia a strategic advantage towards the end of the world as we know it.
They have a goal, and their goal is world domination, but it's going to start with the Vatican.
And he was very clear, Father Martin, that this was part of the reason.
I think a lot of the other reason was the fact that Satan was going to enter the Vatican, and if they had told Catholics perhaps in 1955, 1960, they thought people would lose their faith and just give up.
That's a very interesting statement because there is a professor, he was in Australia recently who mentioned that, who has studied the apparitions at Garabandol, and he mentioned that.
That is something that the Blessed Mother had asked for at Fatima, and that will usher in a period of peace for a time.
And this professor also believes that the Pope will be cured shortly thereafter.
Professor Jacques Seray, S-E-R-R-E, has studied probably about 32 years on this subject.
And he feels very, very firm that the Pope is going to consecrate Russia.
He will do it the way he should have done it earlier with all the bishops in the world, so that this will be the quote-unquote official consecration of Russia.
And the Blessed Mother had promised the world that there would be a period of peace after that.
So with his cure, you see that we might have maybe a little more time for a while.
I told you privately, and I could tell your listeners, that heaven was really taken aback by your show that we did.
Because people who had been receiving these messages, had heard them for 30 years, suddenly took notice and started to believe.
They started to really take this thing seriously because of your credibility.
And heaven was just blown away.
I mean, in one sense, you know, it would hurt heaven because they've been trying to tell everybody for years what's coming.
But you in one night with your credibility have helped so many people turn around.
But the sad thing is people aren't being spiritual enough.
They're not turning back to God quickly enough and staying there.
And that's the problem.
And I think that depends our mitigation of how fast this thing is going to come down the pike is whether we get back to God and we continually pray to God.
I think you've played a very pivotal role, certainly with Father Martin, in getting these things out to people and letting people know that there is the dark side, that it will reach and touch into your lives at any chance it gets.
Most visionaries believe that the next Pope will be the Antipope, and he will usher in severe changes in Catholic dogma and introduce the world to the Antichrist.
I mean, some people think that maybe it would be a good Pope that would follow John Paul, but we have to look at the fact that he may be declared dead and not legally dead so that this agenda can be carried forth.
And if they feign an accident of a plane going down or something and declare him dead or whatever, or if he's missing, then they can say, well, we can have the conclave of cardinals in the election of the new Pope.
Things are moving a little bit faster every day, but I think there's still time for people to realize where they want to be, on whose side they want to be.
But I would say that if you can do all the physical planning in the world, you can have all the food and all the water in the world, but it won't do you a lick of good unless you're spiritually prepared for this.
It's going to take that because there's going to come a time during the warning and then after the warning that people are going to have a terrible time praying.
When you were a kid and you were learning radio and stuff and the Morse code, you practiced it, right?
Arnt, with all due respect to Kathleen and her obvious sincere faith, I'd like to know what kind of allegedly all-knowing and all-loving God could visit such horror and suffering upon his children.
It seems to me that using the analogy of a parent-child model, such a parent would be charged with the neglect, if not outright abuse.
I've heard the arguments, all of them, involving free will, original sin, but a truly all-loving God that is also all-knowing would surely not rig the game so as to set most of us up to fail.
Anyway, it would appear that God has a very insecure ego if he's that pissed off over the specifics of how we see him.
Well, they are alien to us as far as how they appear.
They are not aliens as far as what they are or where they come from.
They come from hell, and they use these transports or these ships because not all of the demons can fly.
I know that sounds very trite, but it's true.
They live in the center of the earth.
They use these ships, one, for transport of the demons to the earth, and two, to perpetrate the biggest hoax that they can about going against the creation theory.
I'm not so sure it's punishment as a cycle that needs to be broken by God.
I think that that's an instance where the person really has to turn everything over to God because it is generational.
Sin is generational.
The alcoholism that goes to the children, whether they become alcoholics themselves or they go through the memories of the torment that they had as kids with their parents.
My question for Kathleen then is, I've been studying this, well, I'm in my 40s now, but since I was 16, and I'm very familiar with about everything we're talking about.
My question is, and I'm not familiar, though, with the Catholic Church's position on the rapture, whether it is pre-trib, mid-, post-oriented.
I believe, and a lot of visionaries have documented this, that the rapture has almost started now.
You're going to see little spurts of people that just aren't here anymore.
But I think as far as the Catholic terminology from what St. Jerome has translated from the original Bible, is that it will happen, perhaps, I guess we can pinpoint it now, according to visionaries, around the miracle that's going to take place at Garabando.
And that a lot of people will just be gone at that point.
When we get closer to the three days of darkness, demons will be snatching us to keep us from praying and taking us to the Antichrist so that we will die in sin.
It's going to be an all-out free-for-all for how many souls God can claim and how many souls Lucifer can claim.
Have you always truly believed this, Kathleen, or have you ever wondered, you must have at times, whether at death it's simply ashes to ashes, lights out, black velvet, good night, end of story?
Well, yeah, but I mean, like, with the Armageddon and stuff coming, and it seems like, you know, this Pope and that Pope were, like, the Roman Catholic Church plays a major role in the whole ordeal.
How many major churches, like something the size of the Catholic Church or the Buddhists or the what you name it, believe that their own church is surrounded with evil, that the center of their own church, in this case the Vatican, is surrounded with evil?
Well, again, circling back, most religions do that.
But I repeat, I don't know of any other major church that claims at the highest levels they are surrounded by evil in the way that Kathleen and then, of course, the late Father Malachi Martin has said.
West of the Rockies, you're on the air with Kathleen Keating.
Can I tell you briefly about my certain experiences and ask you for a comment or an advice on what I should do next?
Or please feel free to tell me if I'm being delusional.
Sure.
I've been looking for an answer for several years or an explanation or guidance what to do next, or if it's all just a coincidence and nothing at all.
I have a very strong Catholic background and my parents, grandparents, as far back as anybody knows, has a very strong background.
Strange events have been happening in my life of a spiritual, metaphysical nature.
Starting from the week I was born, I've had many near-death experiences, snatched from death at the last moment, according to my mother, many times as a child, severe accidents, illnesses.
And as I got older, around 17 or 18, strange events would happen.
What some people might call visions or dreams about the Blessed Mother, Jesus, recognizing evil in people and events, having strange premonitions that come true.
Things like on that show called Fallen Angel on the book Celestine Prophecy, things would happen to me that I had read about in these books and seen in the movies years later.
I've been called a prophet by various Buddhists and Hindus, which I met and very briefly told the situation.
And it all happens more and more when I pray more and more, but it gets so scary that when I decrease my prayer length, my life becomes more, quote, normal, and these things don't happen too much.
Not many people dream of seeing the Blessed Mother or God.
They may want to, but they don't always see them.
And I think that that is something you listen to, but you have to test the spirits to make sure that that is indeed a holy vision and not a delusion or something put there by the devil.
I want to kind of clear up a mistake about the word create evil.
Well, a little bit of scholarship goes a long way when you study the Bible.
If you get yourself a Strong's Concordance and a King James Bible, you're getting probably as close to the original translation as you can.
But the problem being that in the Hebrew, which is about 8,000 some-odd words, 8,900 words, by virtue of where they put accent marks, will change the entire characteristic of the verb.
And in this case, the word create evil, and by the way, Kathleen, in fact, does say that he does create evil in the King James.
But a little scholarship, again, goes a long way.
The word create here means to bring about.
It does not mean to actually bring it in.
And in fact, if you look at the, I believe it's the 28th chapter of Ezekiel, you'll see an entire, starting at verse 13, you'll see an entire description of Lucifer and basically what he was made of.
He's a composite being.
He's a cherubim, and it is a mistake to believe that he's an archangel.
He's the cherub who covers the ark, but he is not considered an archangel.
Those two angels that have been seen in depictions of the Ark of the Covenant are in fact there, but those are not the archangels.
Those are covering angels.
And basically, it's a big mistake to think that.
There's only one archangel that's ever mentioned in the Bible, and that, of course, is Michael.
Many think that others, such as Gabriel and others, are archangels, and they are simply not.
Gabriel is the messenger.
But I'd like to comment on what you've said up to this point.
I think it's very accurate.
And the Bible, in fact, if you go to it's Joel chapter 2, you read the entire Joel chapter 2, you'll see the locust army coming on the earth.
That locust army, in fact, are in fact insectoids.
And those insectoids are, as you and I both know, are the graves.
So if you want to see a complete description of what's going to happen to the earth, you look at Joel chapter 2 and you'll see that when they fall on the sword, they cannot be wounded.
This is a very brilliant description of what's going to happen.
I do have, and Kathleen, I do have a feeling that we're going to get to the bottom of the UFO question and begin to realize what Kathleen has been talking about at about the same time?
I think it's all coming together to one point very quickly.
unidentified
Yeah, I think, Art, that you've been on this for a very long time.
And I think that some of your deductions, like the global superstorm and basically everything that you've brought forth over these last few years, is very accurate.
And I want to just thank you for allowing as much science and technology that the average guy in the street has not understood about a lot of this technology, whether it's the alien technology or alien-derived technology, is very accurate.
I myself am a researcher and a student of first the Bible, and then after I got to the point in the Bible where I didn't find the aliens, and I'm thinking, hey, this Bible says it tells us everything we need to know.
As Kathleen said, he tells us the end before the, or the beginning before the end.
Or he tells us everything at the beginning that will happen in the end.
I couldn't find it, and eventually it required reading the Bible ten separate times.
And I do it with a software program called BibleSoft.
And I'm able to click on a word and look it up in the Hebrew and the Greek, depending on New or Old Testament, or the Chaldean, there's some of that, the Aramaic and the Old Testament and Daniel, that basically will get you much closer to the truth than what the 1611 translators of the 1611 King James did, because keep in mind that communications and so on and so forth at that time, given all the information that we have today, was non-existent.
These guys did the best they could, and they even said there's a preface in the original King James 1611 says, let the buyer beware.
We think we did a good job here, but we're not sure.
And you better check every single sentence here because this is between you and the big guy, and that's it.
But, you know, I think there's more to God's heaven and earth than dreamt of by our philosophies and theologies.
Thanks partly to you, Art.
But, you know, I think the universe is teeming with life, good, bad, and indifferent.
You know, just the latest guess on the stars and just our very own galaxy is 400 billion.
And that's one galaxy out of over 100 billion other galaxies.
I mean, we've got to expand our minds a little bit to get out of this limited, fierce state.
Now, for me, I have no guarantee that I'm going to live throughout the day.
I drive a cab in downtown Atlanta.
I embrace life daily, and I look to a spiritual reality that I know that is part of my life and I believe in.
But back down to earth a little bit, I want to ask you about the people that, you know, like the CFR, the Trilateral Commission, Bilderberg's, the Rockefellers, do you believe that these groups and people are part of a new world order agenda that's happening?
I had kind of a question and then a statement after your response that's a little unrelated.
When you were speaking about the Antichrist, I just kind of had a flash that if in your concept of the Antichrist and your description, if there would ever be someone who could possibly fit the mold for that, it might quite possibly be Vladimir Putin, who suddenly rose out of nowhere to become the premier of Russia.
Well, with somebody who has not become comfortable with the concept that we are, to a great degree, left to our own devices, in other words, all-knowing, all-controlling, he believes.
Well, God is not all-controlling.
A lot of it's up to us, and I think he's blaming on God what he should be blaming on us, Kathleen.
Heaven was, this is through some visionaries that are very trusted, and what they prophesy has come true.
So there's a lot of validity in it.
And this one particular visionary was an associate of Father Martin.
And I was told that art had a big splash in heaven because people finally caught on to what was being said and because of his believability that it helped the message to come through.
unidentified
Okay, that's what I was wondering if it was you or someone else.
And the other question was about, on the other previous show, you had said about the three days of darkness and ways you could prepare with putting plastic on your windows.
Well, I have things in my life, sir, that my family that I must put first.
unidentified
Okay, and Kathleen, what I have for you tonight, you're actually your first-time caller, kind of beat me to the punch, but I also have a strong exhaustive concordance of the Bible.
I don't study the Bible probably as much as he does, but I do understand that in the passage that is in Isaiah where he, the Lord speaks, saying that he is the cause of good and evil.
Not that he created evil, but it's all directly related to him.
And I think that to help you, Longhart, with being open and the way your show is run is that one of the most important prayers that we can have for God is to give us wisdom to make the right decisions in our life.
And a big part of that is when we are hearing information that's given to us from different people or even listening to these guys that get on TV, these evangelists, we should be able to, in ourselves, choose what we believe is the correct path to follow and which is not exactly true, things that we should stay away from.
Well, you know, I think Father Martin would probably take great exception to that, and he would say, you're wanting to have it your way and cherry-pick your way along, and that isn't the way it works.
And I think that's why we're falling down so much.
unidentified
I don't want to discredit anything that Kathleen's saying because I'm very open, but I don't think that there's anybody on the earth right now that can ultimately say this is exactly what's going to happen.
I think that we can kind of speculate and move along the right direction, but when things happen, it may not be exactly as certain individuals think.
I find it a little disturbing, Kathleen, that you're not as educated of the Bible as some people are.
For example, I don't know if you've ever heard of Father Murray of Shepherd's Chapel in Gravitt, Arkansas.
He's a no-nonsense guy.
He can recite the Bible to you in great detail.
He's very highly educated.
He speaks Hebrew and Greek, and he knows a lot of the history of the Bible in depth.
Kathleen, I had the fortunate privilege to talk to you the last time you were on.
You do very good work, and I think the word is very important.
So I also think all other religions have an opinion in a story, too.
My question tonight, though, is earlier when you mentioned hell geographically being located in the center of the earth, in the past 10 years, I've seen certain documentaries and talked to certain people that claim that some division of the government basically has the directions to where this place is at.
And actually, one of the entrances is from a deep cave system.
I don't know if you've ever heard anything about this, but, well, it's scary.
Well, Art, listen, thanks, and take care, and it's time for you to start doing some stuff like you want to do, like maybe buy a hydro plane and, you know, put it in your family and enjoy life.
I think you still have to see the Pope leaving Rome in exile and some other things that have to happen, but I think that we're getting really ready for it.
Before I ask Kathleen or have a statement there, Art, I just want to say something to you.
You know, sometimes things that are outside of you in terms of entertainment or media or whatever really end up feeling like part of your life and part of family.
Kathleen, I have been listening with great righteous frustration all night, redialing the phone as fast as I could with the actual redial, trying to get through, practically praying I could get through.
I just, I'm curious about something.
I'm going to bring up a statement another young man made.
It seems to me that to some extent, your knowledge of the Bible, and I'm talking about the Bible as it breaks down back to the Chaldee, the Greek, the Masura, the original manuscripts, is not very strong.
And that concerns me a great deal, I think, particularly for some of the people That have been listening tonight, one young girl who was very confused, other people who have their own conceptions about what's happening and what isn't happening.
And some of the things that you yourself have said about the end times are somewhat inaccurate.
I guess I just wonder: you know, does this concern you?
I never claimed to be, and I wish I had a tenth of his knowledge when it comes to the Bible.
But the things that I'm talking about are definitely in the Bible.
And the things that are coming are definitely in the Bible.
unidentified
I guess the one thing I would like to ask you is, you know, in the Catholic faith, I'm not Catholic, but I know that you've discussed earlier this evening the various levels of hell and perdition and so forth.
Those are non-scriptural.
And I guess that concerns me.
I mean, this is strictly a Catholic tradition in terms of describing the levels of hell, its location, and so forth.
Well, I understand that, Art, but we are also talking about something that is going to affect the people of the entire world here.
And that's where the warning's going to clear that up.
We'll find out if I'm right or wrong, or the Catholic Church is right or wrong on that.
But I feel very strongly about the purgatorial teachings of the Church because the evidence is there given to visionaries who have, again, prophesied and been 100% accurate.
unidentified
Okay.
I would like to just leave with one last statement, you know, thanking Art again.
I guess I would just suggest, Kathleen, for yourself and also with a lot of the people listening out there, please try to find a scholarly individual who can teach the Bible from its foundation.
The young man offered to you art before, a pastor by the name of Arnold Murray, who teaches on a pre-recorded program weekly around the United States called Shepherd's Chapel.
There aren't enough people like you out there talking about things that need to be talked about.
As for Kathleen, your guest, the only thing I can say to you is I'm not a religious person by any stretch of the imagination.
I was born in a Jewish family.
I'm not religious, but I consider myself to be highly spiritual.
And there's a great deal of difference.
I don't subscribe to any organized religion because I think what it does is tries to instill fear in people.
And I think it did that historically to try to group people together.
And historically, when we were in the dark ages, coming out of the cage, I think there was a need for it to bring people together with some form of structure and some sort of belief that everyone could adhere to to establish some sort of kinship.
But I think those days are over.
I think there's goodness, there's God, in your terms, God within each of us.
There's a spirit in each of us.
I do believe in reincarnation, by the way, and I've proven that to myself.
I have also hypnotized people, as Art has.
And they have verified events that happened in their past lifetimes, so that's not true for me.
And I know these people very well.
And they checked on historical records, places they've never been.
Well, regression hypnotherapy has turned up some astounding things.
I mean, people have gone back and described prior lives and things in those lives, specific names and places they could not possibly be familiar with, and yet they are.
You have to be very careful, and I'm sure Malachi has mentioned this, that you cannot open a door to another level because the spirits do have knowledge, and they're not always good spirits that fill you with that knowledge for you to regurgitate.
Yes, I believe in God and evil, you know, Satan and all that.
But I have a problem with, you know, the story with God creating the big flood, but he told Noah and his family to build the ark, and then all other life was destroyed.
And I don't know where you fall in this one because it's the father has rights, the child has rights, and freedom, I think a lot of people think that that should win over everything over emotional family ties.
So I don't know.
I don't have the answer.
It's a tough one.
But I think you are going to see a change in diplomacy with Cuba because of this.
James Oberg, who recently had a remarkable United Press International story about NASA, who was, in fact, at NASA Mission Control for, I don't know, 20 years, a long time, and has a lot to say about NASA, is going to be here.