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Coast to Coast AM with Art Bell - Kathleen Keating - End Times Prophecy

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unidentified		Welcome to Art Bell Somewhere in Time tonight featuring Coast to Coast AM from April 12th, 2000.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		From the high desert and the great American Southwest, I bid you all good evening and or good morning wherever you may be across this great land of ours from the Tahitian and Hawaiian Islands, softly basking in the breezes of the trade winds eastward to the Caribbean, the U.S. Virgin Islands, out into South America, north to the pole, worldwide on the internet.
		This is supposed to go a.m.
		Good morning on Market.
		Just in case you missed it, last night the announcement has been made, and upon my retirement, it'll be Mike Stiegler posting, posting, posting AM.
		Posting, posting.
		I think he's going to do a great job, and he is immersed in research on various topics that we constantly talk about here on the air.
		And it's going to be rare.
		As a matter of fact, you'll hear him this on Friday night, Saturday morning.
		So I suggest you sit back and listen to a veteran broadcaster, many, many years, who will assume the reins of this show on the 27th of this month.
		And will be here between now and then, actually, as well.
		So there you have it.
unidentified		That is the official announcement.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Now, I'll tell you what I'd like to do in the first hour tonight.
		I would like to talk to anybody out there who has actually had an alien encounter.
		And I don't mean somebody who saw some lights in the sky.
		I'm talking about an actual alien encounter.
		I'm getting some pretty strange email, to be sure.
		really weird stuff actually i'm getting's i'm getting i have And I got this earlier today.
		Dear Art, this morning I saw at my parents' the news directly from Chile on TV.
		The news showed an occurrence on the north portion of Chile, the Atcama Desert, that's A-T-A-C-A-M-A Desert.
		They showed videos of a triangle on the ground, about 20 to 40 meters on each side, and the ground appeared to be burned by some sort of energy.
		Also, the TV broadcasting camera got affected by the area in eliminating all color.
		Well, yes, that could happen.
		So, if this is true, and I have no way of knowing, a large triangle is down in Chile.
		It may or may not be true.
		But we sure are getting an awful lot of triangle reports lately.
		This one kind of interesting.
		Can you imagine that down in the middle of the desert, burned?
		So, we'll discuss that and a few other items, but this hour, what I'm looking for are those of you out there who have actually had an alien encounter.
		An abduction, a real encounter with an alien of any sort from a triangle or any other shaped craft.
		Should be interesting.
		So, everybody else sort of hang up and just mellow out.
		Kathleen Keating, by the way, in the next hour, she'll come along and scare the hell out of you.
		She's written a book called The Final Warning.
		And she was a gigantic hit the last time we had her on the coast.
		She was a close confidant of the late Father Malachi Martin.
		And if anything, her stuff is every bit as scary as his.
		And the reason for that is pretty good.
		Because, frankly, it's the same stuff.
		So, my lines are open for anybody who's had an alien encounter.
		And I mean close-up.
		Where you've actually seen an alien being.
		Not in your dreams, but for real.
		Anybody out there?
		We'll be right back and get to it.
		Well, this ought to give you a little whiplash.
		This hour, we're going to talk to those of you who have had real encounters with alien beings.
		And next hour, we're going to talk about the final warning with Kathleen Keating.
		So you'll get some whiplash from this.
		Stick around.
		And remember the old attorney saying, whiplash equals quick cash.
		First time caller line, you're on the air.
		Good morning.
unidentified		Hello.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello.
unidentified		Hi.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How are you?
unidentified		Oh, I'm excited to be talking with you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, what's your first name?
unidentified		Diane.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Diane.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
unidentified		And I'm in Fresno, California.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Fresno.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		KMJ country.
unidentified		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Diane, you know what we're doing this hour?
unidentified		Yes, I did have a very brief encounter.
		I don't know if it was an alien or something from another dimension, but it was very strange.
		What was it?
		It was 30 years ago.
		My son was five years old at the time, and we both saw it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And you were a young mother of...
		Of how?
		What age?
unidentified		My son was Your age?
		Oh, I, at the time?
		I was 25.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		25.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
unidentified		It was in the middle of the night.
		My two children were sleeping in the bedroom next to the bedroom where I was.
		There was a small hallway between us.
		I heard my son scream.
		I woke up, ran to the hall.
		He was running to the hall at the same time.
		And we both looked back into his bedroom.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		And leaning over the foot of his bed, there was this big black energy being.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, man.
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Now, see, right away, when it's one person, you could imagine they had a bad dream and interpreted that as reality or something.
		But when you've got a son that's screaming, and then you go and you look and you scream, and you're both seeing this thing, you've got something else on your hands altogether.
		A black energy being?
unidentified		Yes.
		It had the shape of like an outline of a body, but you couldn't see form to it like you would, you know, skin or anything.
		It was black, and it was energy.
		You could feel the energy coming from it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So after screaming for a while, was it running?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Or, I mean, what do you do?
unidentified		Well, we were both in the hallway.
		I was holding my son.
		We both, this happened in just seconds, I'd say at the most 15 to 20 seconds.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		And we both looked back at his bed, and this thing was actually too tall to stand up in the room.
		It was bent over so that it could be in the space.
		It was holding a black box.
		It moved very, very slow.
		It actually didn't move its body at all.
		It just turned its head and it looked at us, and its eyes were bright red.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, man.
		You know what?
		I don't think you had an alien encounter.
unidentified		I don't know what that was.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I think, well, black form, red glowing eyes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		We're talking evil entity here.
unidentified		I did get the feeling of evil coming from it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You did?
unidentified		I did.
		I really did.
		And I put my arms around my son, and his body was shaking.
		And I don't know why or I don't know how.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How old was your son?
unidentified		He was five.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Five.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Man, I bet he didn't sleep in that room for a long time.
unidentified		Actually, he went right back to bed.
unidentified		Did he, really?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I wouldn't have.
unidentified		I sat in his room for quite a long time.
unidentified		My daughter was sleeping right in the next bed, and she was only two and a half.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Did she stay in the room?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I guess she did, huh?
unidentified		She didn't wake.
unidentified		She didn't wake up.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's just as well.
unidentified		Yeah, and it was so funny because I knew that whatever the thing was intended to harm my son.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, my God.
unidentified		And I just wrapped my arms around him, and with total certainty in my heart, I said, I can protect you.
		That's my job.
		And it was at that time that it turned its head and it looked at us.
		And then it just disappeared.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And it has not been back.
unidentified		Has never been back.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you very much.
unidentified		Thank you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Take care.
		And I meant to the creature more than the lady, but her to young.
		Don't ever come back here.
		Never darken this room again.
		I can't say that I think that was an alien encounter.
		I think that was an evil encounter, an encounter with evil.
		That's the exact kind of thing, by the way, Kathleen Keating is going to come and talk about at the top of the hour.
		Either way, your life would never, ever be the same after that, would it?
		West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Good morning.
unidentified		Hello, Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi.
unidentified		Hi, Art.
unidentified		This is Mark from Antonios, California.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, Mark.
unidentified		Listening to you on AM 600, KOGO.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		COVID.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, indeed.
unidentified		And this occurred Halloween night about 20 years ago or so.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
unidentified		It's something that I'll never forget.
		There was, I had heard about a party up in the Los Angeles area.
		And so I got directions and I was by myself.
		I drove to this area.
		It was an old suburb of Los Angeles.
		It was a cold Halloween night.
		And this particular area, there were very few streetlights in this neighborhood.
		And I'm driving around and I see this house and I hear the revelry and I realize, you know, that's where the party is.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		There is the party.
unidentified		Yeah.
		I find a place to park and I get out of my car, start walking towards this house, and there were no kids trick-or-treating.
		It was just a dark neighborhood, cold night.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I had that question all parked in the back of my head.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Are you sure whatever you saw wasn't a kid in a costume?
unidentified		Well, at first, okay, I'm walking towards his house, and...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's the perfect night for an alien when you think about it.
unidentified		Exactly.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Anyway, I'm sorry, continue.
unidentified		Yeah.
unidentified		And this was even prior, I believe, to Spielberg's movie.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Close encounters.
unidentified		Close encounters when they had that little warm and fuzzy guy showing up on Halloween.
		I'm walking towards his house, and I see what appeared to be a guy.
		He had a big bald head.
		He had his back to me.
		And it looked like someone in a costume.
		And this was up in the Los Angeles area.
		And I thought, you know, somebody got a costume from a Hollywood studio.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		A really good one.
unidentified		A really good one, exactly.
		And so I'm walking up to this guy real quietly, silently.
		That's Kind of the way I walk and sort of in a way sneaking up on him.
		But I was going to walk up to him and say, you know, hey, high-five, you know, it's a pretty radical costume.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		And I'm about 15 feet from him.
		It's really dark.
		And he had his back to me and he was watching, he was watching this party.
		And he was sort of in these bushes.
		There was one light from the house over the garage that was kind of illuminating the bushes that he was in.
		I was about 15 feet from him.
		He had his back to me.
		As soon as I got to about 15 feet from him, all of a sudden, I was frozen.
		I could not move.
		I had no desire, no further curiosity to move forward.
		He, at that point, he had a big bald head.
		He had a black cape with a high collar.
		He slowly turned around and stared at me, made direct eye contact.
		At that point, I realized this guy wasn't in a costume.
		It was real.
		At that point, he smiled at me.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Smiled at you.
unidentified		Smiled at me, and he had cone-shaped teeth.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Conical-shaped.
unidentified		Conical-shaped teeth.
unidentified		I noticed he had very long fingers.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		And what's really strange is it seems like I downloaded some information from him.
unidentified		It just seemed that what I was saying.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And actually he uploaded information to you.
unidentified		Exactly.
		And what I felt was a couple things.
		One, he was from the future.
		Two, he was accountable.
		Accountabilistic.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, that's the piece of information I'd be most concerned about.
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Because he would have been looking at you like, you know, a burger.
unidentified		Right, exactly.
		And my hunch was that he was here for quote-unquote fresh meat and that he could.
		Yeah, yeah.
		And that he could actually, since he was a time traveler, this is just what I picked up intuitively.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		That he could come to Halloween every night.
		Essentially, he could keep coming back to home.
		Anyway, what's really strange is that...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And that was the day he chose, because it was easy walking around.
unidentified		Well, it was, you know, it was, um, what's really odd about this the encounter was I have absolutely no memory of walking away from this guy, of leaving.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, maybe you didn't.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Are you missing any body parts?
unidentified		No, no.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		None that you know of.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But I mean, if they were to, have you had your appendix out?
unidentified		No.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, see?
		Maybe it's not there anymore.
		Maybe he just snacked.
unidentified		Well, I firmly believe that this was a real encounter.
unidentified		Hey, Anart, I'm going to miss you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, thank you.
unidentified		Quite a bit.
		But you know what?
		I think that you'll be back.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I don't know about that, but I know that the format, the show, will certainly continue.
		I appreciate the words, sir.
		Thank you.
		And I want everybody to know that I dearly, as you all know, I dearly, dearly love doing this program.
		It is the highlight of my life.
		Actually, doing the show is the best part of it.
		It's all the other stuff that comes along with it that has been the problem, not doing the show itself.
		Doing the show itself is nothing but a pleasure.
		And a lot of the other stuff, though, that comes with it is nothing but a heartache.
		Anyway, it is the love of my life, along with my wife.
		And I'm going to miss it, of course.
		But all good things must end sometime or another.
		This one will go on.
		Coast to Coast AM will continue as is.
		Depend upon it.
		Mike Siegel.
unidentified		You're listening to Art Bell somewhere in time on Premiere Radio Networks.
		Tonight, an encore presentation of Coast to Coast AM from April 12, 2000.
		I would love for you anytime today.
		It's all love that you need.
		And I've done my best to take everything to see.
		And tell me what is my life inside you.
		And tell me who am I inside you.
		By my side.
		But I know what I can do.
		And tell me what is my life inside you.
		Where are those happy days?
		They seem so hard to find.
		I tried to reach for you, but you have lost your mind.
		Whatever happened to our love, I wish I understood it used to face the lies.
		I used to pay so good.
		Oh, when you're near me, darling, can't you hear me?
		It's so late.
		The love you gave me, nothing else to save me.
		It's so late.
		When you're gone, how can I even try to go on?
		When you're gone, go and try, heart you know, and carry on.
		Oh, when you're gone, how can I even try to go on?
		You seem so far away from your standing near.
		You make me feel alive, but sometimes I feel that I really try to make it out.
		I wish I had some Premier Radio Networks presents Art Bell Somewhere in Time.
		Tonight's program originally aired April 12, 2000.
		So when you hear me, darling, can't you hear me?
		It's so echo.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Ah, yes, I do love Ava.
		Good morning, everybody.
		Great to be here.
		We're taking calls this hour from those who have had encounters.
		And of all the things I hear about, the thing I like the least are shapeless black beings with glowing red eyes.
		That one has always, always freaked me out.
		All right, this hour, we are doing people who have had encounters.
		And who should show up on the line, but a really big encounter type person on my wildcard line, Jonathan Reed, Dr. Jonathan Reed.
		Wow.
		Hi there.
unidentified		How are you doing, sir?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm doing fine.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How are you, is a better question?
unidentified		Pretty good.
unidentified		I'm out in the middle of Colorado in my Jeep.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		In a Jeep, huh?
		Yeah.
		Are you on the run?
unidentified		Well, I'm still following the shadows.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Following the shadows?
unidentified		Should I say the shadows are following me?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I was going to ask, the shadows still follow you?
unidentified		Yes, sir.
unidentified		It continues.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, yours is one of the most controversial cases of alien encounters, close encounters, I think that we've ever had on the program, Doctor.
unidentified		Well, and it's going to get even worse because I just sent something off to you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, no.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What?
unidentified		I sent you a video analysis of the video that you have that proves that the alien in the scene where I brought it home was in fact alive and playing possum.
unidentified		You can actually see the whole facial muscles move and the eye blinking.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So in other words, even though you thought it was dead, when you examined the video carefully, and you would not have examined the creature carefully at the time, you thought he was dead.
		I get it.
		So now all of a sudden, proof that it was in fact alive.
unidentified		Right.
unidentified		This was done by an independent source that we picked up through the International UFO Congress in Laughlin, Nevada that we were at in March 9th.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, I know you attended that.
unidentified		And that was a very interesting situation, to say the least.
		But out of that came tremendous support, both from the people.
		We had over 700 people in our lecture alone.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Wow.
unidentified		But people have definitely gotten on the bandwagon and are trying to do their best to get this information out.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, you know, I mean, what comes next for you in life, Doctor?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You don't have much of a present life because you're running.
unidentified		You and me both.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's true.
		I mean, what comes next for you?
		Where do you go from here?
unidentified		Well, actually, we have been sponsored by an independent, very, very tremendous gentleman to take this information to the next step, to the world.
		We are planning a world conference where we are going to take my information with all of the supportive evidence that has been ascertained since I have given my information to other people.
		They have independently researched it to a conclusion of fact where it absolutely, without dispute, can be looked at and seen for what it is.
		That in fact this event did happen.
		We're going to Japan.
		We're going to England.
		We're going to Australia.
		And all I can say is God bless everyone.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I know your book is out, and I want to thank you for the autographed copy.
unidentified		The book is doing unbelievably well.
		We're getting thousands of supportive emails.
		And the title of the book is Link and Extraterrestrial Odyssey.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Link an Extraterrestrial Odyssey, all right.
unidentified		But I didn't come on here to sell the book.
		What I came on to say is that, you know, my encounter did change my life, as I'm sure it does many, many people who walk through these doors.
		And you can never again go back.
		Because once you've seen this, it changes you forever.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Forever.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Of course it does.
unidentified		And there are situations that are happening in this world that we're led to believe are not true.
		Well, I am out to say and out to prove that, in fact, this stuff does happen.
		It does go on.
		And as you well know, there are things that go bump in the night that aren't necessarily man-made.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
unidentified		But, you know, it's a crazy world we live in.
		And I have learned to take it one day at a time, one step at a time.
		And with your help, Art, you have enlightened the world to open their eyes and see beyond the end of their nose.
		And just like everybody else.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Doctor, let me ask you a question.
		Yes.
		In that whole encounter situation with the alien and the whole business that happened with your dog and Freezer and the whole thing, what is your, you know, as you look back on it, what is your biggest regret about the whole thing?
		What would you have different?
unidentified		well i think if i wouldn't have been so emotionally drive and back when that first happened i would have directly taken at to a university emergency room the first body goes uh...
unidentified		so that i could have initially documented it with every source that i possibly could have well of course you were emotionally distressed really doesn't do service to I was one step away from death.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		Yeah, I agree with that.
		If you're going to have one thing you know now, your heart must be good and strong.
unidentified		I think so.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Otherwise, you'd be gone.
		Well, Doctor, I can't tell you what a pleasure it has been to have you on the air.
		Maybe we'll get a show in before we go.
		You never know.
unidentified		Well, we've got lots of new things going on and lots more to tell.
		I mean, we found out some things about the alien, about some of the communication that was left over within me that was basically telepathy that was transferred to me.
		And now through some processes, we've been able to try to decipher some of that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Does that power remain with you?
unidentified		Yes, it does.
unidentified		Unfortunately.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Unfortunately.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So more of a curse than a blessing, huh?
unidentified		Yes, that's how I feel.
unidentified		I feel like I'm screwed into some radio station non-stop.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Wow.
		Well, you're right then.
		There's a lot more to tell.
		All right, let me see about scheduling the show.
		I have the contact number for Robert, and I know you're on the move in a Jeep in Colorado now, and who knows where then.
		But we'll be in touch.
unidentified		All right, sir.
unidentified		And one thing, God bless you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Good night.
unidentified		Take care.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Good night, Doctor.
		Dr. Jonathan Reed.
		With probably the most controversial contact case in years and years and years.
		Still on the move.
		That's got to be a rough life.
		First time caller align, you're on the air.
		Hi.
unidentified		Hi, Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello.
unidentified		Hi.
		Yes, I have a story to tell, and it kind of even goes in with the triangle thing.
		But my husband and I lived in a remote area in Utah, and we were coming back from town, and it was snowing pretty hard, and we had a big 4x4 Ford truck.
		And we were heading towards the Kaibab, and it's real remote out there.
		And we decided to go and get some snow.
		I mean, some wood.
		It was about, I'd say, 12.30 at night.
		And we were low on firewood, so we said, let's go out to the Kaibab where there's an old lumber dump and get some wood.
		So we drove out there.
		And it started to blizzard at that time.
		It was snowing real, real hard.
		So we get way back there and we pull up.
		And first of all, let me say, my husband was the biggest skeptic in the world.
		He'd laugh at stories like this.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		He was, huh?
unidentified		Yeah.
		And so we parked the truck and all of a sudden it just started snowing harder.
		So we decided to wait a few minutes.
		And then we saw what appeared to be like snowmobiles coming towards us.
		And my husband, Rick, said, you know, what are these guys doing out here this late?
		And I go, I don't know.
		I go, is that a truck?
		And he said, no, it looks like snowmobiles.
		And they were heading straight at us.
		Next thing, we were asleep.
		And we were asleep.
		We were asleep.
		And you'd think we'd be alert after something like that because seeing these snowmobiles, by this time it's one in the morning coming straight at us.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Not only would you be awake, but your adrenaline would be pumping.
unidentified		Exactly, exactly.
		And we have a gray wolf, and he was in between us in the front seats.
		And so anyways, we fell asleep.
		And next thing I know, the wolf is growling.
		And I had fallen asleep with my feet on the dashboard, and I was wearing cowboy boots, and it felt like somebody was putting a cigarette out on the bottom of my foot.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So you were both in the car?
unidentified		We were in the truck.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Your feet were up on the dashboard.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And your husband, just sitting there.
unidentified		Yeah, his feet were on the floor of the truck, but his head was back.
unidentified		And then the wolf started growling, and then at the same time he started growling, it felt like somebody took a cigarette and put it on the bottom of my foot.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		When the wolf growled is when you woke up?
unidentified		Right.
		And I had thick boots on.
		And so then the door started vibrating on my side.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, no.
unidentified		And the snow was coming down really hard.
		And I said, oh, my God, the door is shaking.
		And my husband Rick just said, I can hear it, you know.
		And then it stopped shaking.
		And it was snowing so hard we couldn't see out the window.
		So we waited a little while and then Rick said, come on, let's go see what that was.
		So we got out of the truck.
		And we started looking, and the snow stopped falling, and we could see these two feet that came from the door, but it had like a tail or something.
		Something was in between it, dragging, you know, that was there.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Really?
unidentified		Yeah, so then just at that time, we're outside of the truck, and UConn, our dog, was inside the truck still, and these 12 spaceships just came out of nowhere.
		They just dropped out of the sky, and they were everywhere around us.
		And this is true, my husband says, me and my husband, the same type, said, let's get the hell out of here.
		I mean, we were so scared.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Finally, the right decision.
unidentified		I was so scared.
unidentified		I mean, it was like, so we're getting out of there, you know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You know the part I don't...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You've fallen asleep.
unidentified		Right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You've got a hot foot.
unidentified		Right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You wake up, your wolf is growling.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And you decide to get out of the car to see what it is.
unidentified		Well, the last thing we thought was something like that.
		We just didn't know what it was.
		And even when the door starts shaking.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I know, but I mean, with something that awful happening to get out to see.
unidentified		Yeah, yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You know, short of having a 357 Magnum with one of them.
unidentified		Well, we did, yeah, we had one.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		you have one of our politics even with that i don't know that i do That's when we, the same thing when we started, I go, looks like a tail.
unidentified		And that's when we were, you know, just getting ready to get back in the truck when these lights, and each one of these vehicles had a blue, yellow, and a violet type light around it.
		You know, like, it was hard to tell whether it was around at that point, but we did finally see it real close up, or what it was.
		But they almost looked like bats.
		And there was 12 of them.
		We counted them.
		And that's when we got in and we said, let's get out of here.
		So we took off, and we were like almost out of control because we were so scared trying to get out of there.
		Yes.
		When we lost control of the truck, and it's like drove into an embankment and stalled, right?
		And these vehicles are just right alongside of us.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, of course.
unidentified		And so by this time, I don't know, it's like 3.30 in the morning.
		So we both, we knew that we had to put it in four-wheel drive, and he goes, you get out, and I'm like, you get out.
		So then he goes, let's both get out, get one wheel, and jump back in.
		So we both get out.
		We jump back, you know, we get back in the truck.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All the while these things are hovering above us.
unidentified		They're right next to us.
		They're within 20 feet of us.
		Oh, my.
		Then we both looked at each other and we were completely calm.
		And we just said, let's go back.
		And it was like from being totally scared to death to just totally calm and wanting to go back.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I know, I'm sure, so you went back where you were.
unidentified		Where we were.
		And we watched these vehicles from about, well, from then till almost dusk.
		And we watched them do all sorts of things.
		I mean, you know, maneuvering and putting on a real air show.
		Exactly.
		They put on this air show.
		And I was even, you know, trying to communicate with them.
		I don't know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, obviously it has got to have occurred to you that during the time you were, quote, asleep, end quote, that something happened to you.
unidentified		Well, yeah, and my husband kept saying, no, I wasn't asleep.
		And I go, yes, you were asleep.
		And then we looked at the clock in the truck, and sure enough.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Do you know how much time had passed?
unidentified		Probably about, we guessed anywhere from like an hour to 45 minutes to an hour.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		45 minutes to an hour?
unidentified		Right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		A lot of things.
unidentified		And we weren't tired either.
		We were ready to get wood.
		But we watched.
		I was even saying to him, wow, you guys are great.
		You're so good.
		Because they were doing this thing where they would just stop and they would tilt sideways all the way.
		Yes.
		And they were just like maneuvering and then they'd go backwards and forwards.
		So we watched them and then when we were, you know, when it was starting to get light, they were still there.
		We could see them clearly.
		And, you know, we couldn't.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Can you describe them?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		When you saw them in the clear, how descriptive can you be of the vehicles?
unidentified		Very descriptive, because NASA ended up coming down to my ranch.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Really?
unidentified		Yeah.
		And then the newspaper got a hold of it, but I wouldn't do an interview.
		I didn't want anybody to know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you for coming here.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, what did they, is there a way to vocally describe what they looked like?
unidentified		Yeah, they were a sort of a flat kind of flat sort of metal.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Flat, flat, black, they call it.
unidentified		Not black, but a dark gray, flat color.
		And they were very thin on the outer edges, you know, real saucer-shaped, and very aerodynamic.
		And they had like on each side, it was hard to tell because they would, I don't know if they were spinning, you know, sometimes or what, but they would have like three, I could see on each side three lights.
		One was yellow, one was blue, and one was violet.
		And I can still, sometimes I can look up in the sky and see those light, those colors.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What made you decide you were not going to do an interview?
unidentified		Because it's a small town and my husband, well, okay, when we left, okay, when everything was said and done and we left, my husband said, don't tell anybody what we saw.
		And I said, Rick, don't you ever forget what we saw.
		I said, because later on, we're going to try to find an explanation for everything we saw, and we're going to try to deny to ourselves that we saw that.
		But you know, and I know what we saw.
		And so, and we do.
		We've always kept that agreement, and we, you know, we clearly know.
		I mean, there's no doubt in my mind what we saw.
		You know, it was too many hours we watched them.
		And so it wasn't long after that that we were at home, and I was carrying some laundry into the middle room down the hallway, and I went to step in the middle room, and this electrical type energy, like, it wasn't dark though, was like almost sparking off the roof, and I couldn't walk in the room.
		So I ran out to the garage where my husband was fiddling with the truck, and I said, Rick, come here, come here.
		And so he comes in the house, and I said, walk in that middle room.
		And he goes, what?
		I said, just walk in there.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You sent him in there.
unidentified		Yeah, I told him, walk in there.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Good wife.
unidentified		Because I wanted to see if he could walk in there because I couldn't.
unidentified		Whatever was in there wouldn't allow me.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hey, Rick, there's something evil in there.
unidentified		It wasn't evil.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It was just the room.
unidentified		It wasn't evil.
		I mean, I didn't feel anything evil.
		It was just real energy.
		So he went to walk in the room and fell right down on his knees because it pushed him back out.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Great.
unidentified		And then it just faded away and it was gone.
		And so we figure it might have been her friends from that night.
		We don't know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, then it's not over.
unidentified		I hope not.
unidentified		I hope not.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You hope not.
unidentified		I hope not.
		You see, I'd always wanted to experience that.
		My husband thought I was crazy.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, listen, to some degree, I join him.
		You should be very careful what you wish for.
		I mean, you have no idea what was done to you for 45 minutes or an hour.
unidentified		It was done.
unidentified		It was done, and I'm still okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How old are you now?
unidentified		I'm 45.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		45.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		For now, you're okay.
unidentified		I know I'm going to be okay.
unidentified		I'm real confident of that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Any other after effects?
unidentified		Just the only thing that we noticed that was different was I had a gouge in the back of my calf.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, there you are.
unidentified		What?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		A gouge in the back of my calf.
unidentified		It looked like a little scoop mark.
		Yeah, exactly.
		But it was like in the back of my calf.
		What can they do there?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Have you ever had an MRI or anything like that?
unidentified		No?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		They might find something downright interesting embedded somewhere within you.
unidentified		Well, I hope it's something good.
unidentified		But you know, the really weird thing about this is ever since it happened, I've been fascinated with triangles and pyramids and things like that to the point where, I mean, I just constantly draw them.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Listen, dear, like in close encounters.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, listen, I've got to go.
unidentified		Okay, thank you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You take care, and thank you very, very much for the story.
		Well, on this program, you do get what you wish for.
		Thank you for the interesting, no, fascinating, riveting hour.
		What would you have done in her shoes?
		So to speak.
		All right, coming up after the break is Kathleen Keating, who was a close confidant of Father Malachi Martin.
		Her book, The Final Warning, and more in the works.
unidentified		Up next.
		You're listening to Art Bell somewhere in time on Premiere Radio Networks.
		Tonight, an encore presentation of Coast to Coast AM from April 12, 2000.
		I'd like to see you, but then again, that doesn't mean you need that much to me.
		So if I call you, don't make a promise, don't tell your friends about the two of us.
		I'm not a lover, no, no.
		I'm not a lover, no.
		I don't want your lonely mansion with a tear in every room.
		All I want's the love you promise beneath the hallowed moon.
		But you think I should be happy with your money and your name.
		And hide myself in sorrow while you play your cheating game.
		Silver threads and golden needles cannot mend this heart of mine.
		And I do not drown my sorrow in the warm water wide.
		But you think I should be happy with your money and your name.
		And hide myself in sorrow while you play your cheating game.
		Premier Radio Networks presents Arch Bell Somewhere in Time.
		Tonight's program originally aired April 12, 2000.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And I warn you that what you're about to hear really may scare the hell out of you.
		Kathleen Keating is a confidant, was of the late Father Malachi Martin.
		She has a book called The Final Warning.
		And I guess you'll find out what that is here in a moment.
		You may have not caught her the first time around.
		She's got a lot of other works underway.
		An action thriller, Cat's Cradle.
		The Final Warning, actually, is your survival guide to the new millennium.
		I wonder if survival is a key word.
		Could be.
		Torn Sky, an end time thriller, which we've got to ask about.
		And she's at work on yet other projects.
		One book, a screenplay, actually, called The Gates of Hell.
		As well as a sequel to Cat's Cradle.
		So this is one busy lady, and what you're about to hear, and certainly in part, is going to be pretty scary stuff.
		So if The Exorcist Scared You, and that movie scared me as no other ever has since.
		Even the Druly Mouthed Monsters on Alien, which was pretty bad.
		The Exorcist did it to me as no other movie has ever done it to me.
		And I still don't know why, and I'm not even a Catholic.
		But it did a job on me, and I'm sure a lot of the rest of you.
		I've got to get a good copy of The Exorcist, too.
		I don't think I have a good copy of it.
		And I have almost every movie you could imagine, but that's one I think that I need to replace.
		Anyway, coming up in a moment is Kathleen Keating.
		Prepare yourself.
		more ways than one.
		Here from Ainsworth, Nebraska, out in the middle of the country, is Kathleen Keating.
		Kathleen, welcome back to the program.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		Well, thanks, Art.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		How are you doing tonight?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I'm doing great.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Kathleen, although we've got a little hum on this phone.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		I hope it's on key.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's just sort of there.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Do you hear it on your end?
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		Just slightly.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		Kind of coming in and out.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
		I wonder why I would have that.
		I had that actually last night on another line, too.
		Kathleen, the final warning.
		Just before we get to that book, and I really, I want to go over it again because it was so shocking for so many people.
		In my last hour, I opened up the phone lines for people who had had alien encounters.
unidentified		Right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And I know you heard the one lady who had the encounter with the dark black being that was so big it could barely fit into her son's room with the red glowing eyes.
		I hate red glowing eyes more than anything else I can think of.
		I get the shakes when I hear about that.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		You're not the only one.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		I take that very seriously.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Now, I said to her at the time, I didn't think that was an alien encounter.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I thought that was an encounter with some kind of evil.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		That's a demonic encounter for sure.
		That really sounds like it.
		I don't know if you see shapes out of the corner of your eyes every once in a while.
		You know, you get something moving or something and you turn and it isn't there.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, look, I absolutely do.
		I wrote the intro to Dreamland now years ago, and I said, things seen, you know, at the edge of your vision.
		And I said that for a reason, because I've seen things, we all have, I think, at the edge of our vision.
		You don't see it straight on, at least I hope you don't, because that would really be scary.
		But that's bad enough.
		Seeing them sort of just in peripheral vision.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		Just enough to frighten you.
		Now, I have turned fast enough to catch them coming straight on.
		And believe me, it's worse when you see them from that perspective.
		It's just horrible.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And what is it that you believe these things are?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, we all know there are angels, and not all angels are good from our perspective.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		No, they're not.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Or are they actual messengers of Lucifer or servants of Lucifer or evil?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What are they?
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		Well, they're not good angels.
		And I would have to say that they're they're either bad angels or bad entities that work for the bad angels, the archangels.
		Whatever they are, they're scary.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And of course, you had an encounter with a being in your yard.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yes.
		Yes.
		But he appeared more human-like, so it wasn't quite that unnerving, except when you realized who the guy was.
		And I think that that's something that no one will ever get over, even though, you know, Art, I've had thousands of emails saying, you've got to tell me the name of this man.
		And no, I don't got to tell you the name of this man.
		I think people are so darn curious that we get ourselves into trouble.
		And for those listeners that didn't hear the show, we're talking about the Antichrist.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You do know his name?
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		Yes, I do.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's a heavy responsibility.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		First of all, are you sure this was the Antichrist?
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		Yes, I have no doubt.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How do you know that?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Is it just a knowing or?
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		No, well, it's both.
		But let me just say that I was doing some research on this person when several hundred visionaries have mentioned this man.
		And so, like a fool and an investigative journalist wanting to know the whole story, I started to do a lot of research and I actually talked to some of his people, which I think was a very big mistake because it wasn't long after that phone conversation that I was contacted.
		And that's something that I praise God that the state of my soul at that time was such that he couldn't come in the house.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Briefly tell it again.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		Okay, well, it was early in the morning and I had to get my dog out, and she's a very early type dog, so you have to get her out.
		And I walked her out to the backyard, opened the back door, and down the stairs she went.
		And immediately we both saw this man standing in the backyard.
		And out in this country, most people wear cowboy boots and a cowboy hat and jeans.
		And here's this guy in what looked like a $3,000 Armani suit, but not a tie or anything.
		He had like a turtleneck on.
		And his hair was tied back, and he was swarthy looking, good looking, very slick hair.
		You know, I won't say greasy, but it looked really slick.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Did you ever see The Devil's Advocate?
unidentified		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Like that?
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		More handsome?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		More handsome?
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		Handsome.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Because he was a pretty persuasive character.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah.
		Yeah, this guy is completely charismatic.
		And just, you know, Madison Avenue.
		Wow, look at that guy.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And so there he was.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And what did he say to you?
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		He said, hi.
		And it was like, oh, I mean, my gosh.
		First of all, I was standing there in my pajamas, which weren't the best in the world anyway.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You should have probably said, no, I'm not.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, no, I'm not.
		I wish I were because that would explain this.
		But it was like, I sort of mumbled hi, but I couldn't quite get it out because I, first of all, startled the guy was there.
		My dog couldn't advance on him, and she's the type of dog that really is very aggressive when there are strangers around.
		She couldn't move.
		She couldn't bark.
		And this dog lives to bark.
		And she could not move.
		She could not move.
		And he started walking back and forth, looking at me.
		And I got behind the door a little bit and somewhat looked at him, but I didn't want to meet his eyes because I've been warned about that.
		He's so charismatic.
		He'll pull you in, into his power, into his realm.
		And so, you know, I kept thinking, I don't see this, but I do see it.
		So what do I do now?
		And it was like, oh, Lord, help me.
		Oh, crap, what do I do now?
		And it was almost as if I couldn't shut the door, which was a terrible feeling.
		And he kept walking and looking at me.
		And I started to close.
		I was able to close the door just a little bit more.
		And I have my crucifix on my door, and I thank God for that.
		And he just walked away into thin air.
		And my dog looked at me, and I looked at her, and she came back in.
		She didn't care if she had to go.
		She was coming back inside.
		And I locked the door, and that was the end of that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How did you interpret that encounter?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		There was a message there for you, obviously.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		There was.
		I started working on the Torn Sky Project during that time.
		And basically what that is, is the screenplay to the final warning.
		And it involves the end times and the warning that God's going to give us and the good and evil as they square off against one another in the end days.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That ought to be some battle.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, and there are going to be two major battles, but we can get into that later.
		But it's going to be huge.
		And, of course, this man plays a pertinent role in the rest of our time.
		And I had talked to somebody, a visionary, who was helping me a lot with the research, and I spoke with Father Martin about it.
		And I mentioned who it was, and I was told by the visionary that another woman in England had had the same occurrence.
		Except he knocked on her door and spoke to her more at length.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		When you spoke to Father Martin about this, how did he react?
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		He was skeptical at first.
		But when I told him the project that I was working on, which he was helping me, you know, what particular phase I was in, he listened very carefully.
		And you know, Art, that Malachi would think about something a long time and get back to you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I know.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		If he wasn't real sure about it.
		And so basically he read what I had written about the occurrence and had listened to me about this visionary who said that another woman had verified this person the same way.
		And it was basically, well, we know, so we're not Going to take it any further.
		You know, just thank God that that was all that happened.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Let me tell you a brief Father Malachi Martin story that I don't know if I've ever told, I don't think I have on the air, but maybe I did once mention it.
		There was a story I had, Kathleen, that I actually can't repeat now.
		It had to do with the Vatican, though, and something they were doing.
		And I called Father Martin about it, and I told him the story, and I sent him the text of the message that I had.
		And I really don't feel comfortable revealing that right now.
		But I'll tell you this.
		Father Martin said, Art, I'm going to think about this, and I'm going to call you in about 24 hours.
		And he did.
		He called me back, and he said, Art, if you go on the air with this, you're going to get me killed, you're going to get yourself killed, and you're going to open up something that should not be opened now.
		That's how serious it was.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		Very serious.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		And he took that very seriously because I know the topic that you're discussing here.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Do you?
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		And there is no way that he was even going to have it go through a fax machine or anything else.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Actually, that's exactly right.
		That's exactly right.
		In fact, well, there's not a lot I can say about it except to say that it scared the heck out of me.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And you're right about the fax machine.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah.
		I mean, you know, you deal with him long enough.
		You know that you don't send stuff like that.
		And that's true with anybody that's really handling this sort of information.
		You've got to be very, very cautious.
		And that would include emails to Father Malachi on anything specific.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Does the other side have ways of monitoring?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, even our own government with echelon monitors email and channels.
unidentified		Sure.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		The Internet's a big playground for the demonic forces.
		They use it quite extensively.
		I know as a fact that they have targeted television this year in order to get into your homes.
		And if you've noticed, a lot of people have written me saying, boy, people are getting more irritable lately.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		They don't know what it is.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		Well, one of the visionaries with whom I've been working said that it's because the dark side is coming through to you through the television set.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So in other words, it's using every available medium, including television, the internet, all the most popular mediums.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That would make sense.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		Basically the electronics, whatever.
		Music, definitely in the music.
		I know they've targeted children in the past, and we've seen what kids are doing to each other now.
		But, you know, you find yourself out of control with the people you love.
		And we found the same thing at this house that we find if we turn off the TV, we're a lot more easy to get along with.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I think you're absolutely right.
		I watch almost no regular television, a little bit of it, hardly anything.
		And beyond that, I do watch motion pictures.
		I love those.
		But you're probably right about TV.
		Do you think it is in the direct message or it's more subtle what's coming to us through television, for example?
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		Subtle.
		I wouldn't go as far as saying they're subliminals, but they could be.
		But I think what we're seeing, I mean, you're seeing things in primetime TV that no child should be seeing at all.
		It's completely sexually explicit.
		It's going too far.
		The morality of television has just really, really deteriorated to the point that it's kind of scary to even let your child in the room on the TV.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, you know, they decided that violence was not good.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		No.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And so they've let up on the violence, but they've replaced it with sexual content.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		Right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And very heavily so.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I've been amazed at how far they've gone, actually.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		Well, they have.
		And if you have cable, I mean, shows that show nudity at 9 o'clock at night are sometimes replayed on cable in rerun at 2 or 3 in the afternoon when the kids are coming home from school.
		And that's a bad thing that's starting to get kids too interested too soon, too early.
		You know, whatever.
		They're just being bombarded with the electronic media.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Do you have children?
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		A grown child, yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Grown child.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How did you handle TV as your child was growing up?
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		It was pretty much guarded as far as what she watched.
		She was a reader, which helped, but then again, books aren't what they should be either.
		I know that she got into her grandmother's collection of stories, and they were a little too adult for her, you know, and it was like, well, why are you reading in the middle of the night, type of thing?
		But they'd hook her in, hook line, and sink her, you know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Let me ask this.
		You had an encounter with the Antichrist.
		You know the name of the Antichrist.
		Why will you not give that name?
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		There is no point in giving the man more notoriety or to rush his emergence on the world scene.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		That's coming soon enough.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So in other words, from your point of view, giving the name would just hurry the process, the inevitable process.
unidentified		Right.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		And I don't think anyone's really anxious for that.
		I know people think that they can handle who he is, but I tend to disagree with that.
		I think that we, like I said earlier, were just too curious, and we got ourselves into a lot of trouble.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Speaking of getting in trouble, Father Malachi Martin got in a lot of trouble for saying a lot of the things he said about the Pope and Vatican.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And I mean a lot of trouble.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Do you believe what he said is the truth, that there's evil within the walls of the Vatican itself?
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		I believe it.
		I believe that Father Martin was totally honest when he was talking about it.
		Pope Paul VI mentioned the smoke of Satan had entered the Vatican.
		And that just sends chills down your back.
		But then again, Fatima had predicted that that was what was going to happen.
		And Father Martin wrote about it trying to get the truth out, because that's so important in these final days.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Fatima had predicted that?
unidentified		Yes.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		That if we did not change our ways, if we did not stop communism, that communism would ultimately take over and that they would take over the Vatican in the form of Satan.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, communism, of course, is very much on the wane, we hope and think.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		No, it isn't.
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I said hope and think.
		I would tend to agree with you, Kathleen.
		All right, hold on, stay right there.
		Kathleen Keating is my guest.
		I'm confident of the late, very much respected and loved Father Malachi Martin.
		And she has written any number of books.
		The final warning, your survival guide to the new millennium.
		By the way, there's going to be a real deal on that book tonight.
		And I mean a real deal, like half the price or something like that.
		Stand by, get some paper, we'll let you know about it.
		I'm Art Bell.
unidentified		This is Coast to Coast AM.
		You're listening to Art Bell somewhere in time.
		Tonight featuring a replay of Coast to Coast AM from April 12, 2000.
		Coast to Coast AM When in the springtime of the year, when the trees are crowned with ears, When the ash look at their birch on you, Are dressed in ribbons fear When hours cold,
		the breathless moon, in the pool of the night The shadows of the dreams appear beneath the lantern light Be it sight,
		sand, smell, touch, there's something inside that we need so much The sight of a touch or the scent of a sand or the strength of an oak when roots deep in the ground The wonder of flowers to be covered and then to burst up through tarmac to the sun again Or to fly to the sun without burning a wing To lie in a mellow and hear the grass sing all these things in our memory soar And
		I need you to come to us, to follow.
		Why, why does your soul take his face on this trip?
		me Why take a big ride to the place of my sea it's all free I would say my fears I to risk my life But by now,
		by now, I shall be right You're listening to Art Bell somewhere in time tonight featuring a replay of Coast to Coast AM from April 12th, 2000.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It is indeed by the way that little thing I related to you about Father Malachi Martin telling me that if I were to release what I had, it would get me killed, get him killed, and a lot more would come down.
		I wasn't satisfied with having him tell me that.
		I got my boss on the phone with him, and he told my boss the same thing, and my boss said, well, if it was up to me, I'd sit on it.
		I've been sitting on it ever since.
		So there you are.
		Just so you know, my good friend Alan Corbeth was privy to that conversation as well.
		I will never, ever forget it.
		All right, once again, here comes Kathleen Keating, author of The Final Warning, Your Survival Guide to the New Millennium.
		And the screenplay entitled Torrance Guy, and it might be an interesting way to try and sneak up on what's going to happen in the final days.
		It's an end-time thriller.
		End time.
		Torr and Sky.
		Kathleen, in this screenplay, Torrance Guy, what happens?
		In other words, what unfolds?
		How's it going to happen?
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		It starts with basically that everybody is feeling something coming.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		It looks at an individual's life and how his life runs into the biggest machinery and the biggest conspiracy that's ever been in place in the history of mankind.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, we've already got a situation where almost everybody feels something big is virtually on the horizon now.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		Well, that is God has our number and he's getting ready to dial.
		He really does.
		And that's what Torn Sky is about, and it talks about that as well as the Final Warning.
		Torn Sky is somewhat of the research that turned into the screenplay from Final Warning.
		And it's something that we can feel.
		Your stomach gets upset.
		Time keeps going faster and faster.
		No one is satisfied with anything.
		Life just doesn't have quite the same focus that it used to.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's now.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		That's now.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		We are very close to seeing this come to fruition.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		When the number is dialed, what will begin to actually happen, Kathleen?
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		It's going to start with more calamities, more earth changes.
		As you know, the weather's going to get really, really rough and bizarre.
		It's going to keep multiplying to the point that the whole earth is going to be in a birth pang.
		I think that's the best way to describe it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Every night, Kathleen, I have weird weather stories, and I hold them here.
		Here's one.
		Worst dust storm in a decade hits Beijing.
		Fierce winds laden with desert dust buffeted Beijing on Thursday in what local reports said was the worst such storm in 10 years, delaying all flights, pushing grit through windows and doors, and sending people running for cover.
		They said the storm, one of several unusually heavy ones this spring, was caused by dust rolling in from the northwest, combined with severe winds in the Beijing region.
		Now, this is just typical of what I could read every day.
		High winds in strange places, storms that virtually come out of nowhere.
		It's been happening for a while now, Kathleen.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		Oh, it has.
		And it really has nothing to do with the planets aligning either.
		I mean, people are trying to pin that on that, too.
		You know, and oh, God, it's going to be the big earthquake when they all line up, and here we go.
		But that's not what it's about.
		I think God is just allowing all of this to get our attention.
		He's going to get us to our knees one way or the other because we have to turn back to him or all is going to be lost.
		And the best way to do it, I suppose, is to strip us of our possessions, have floods take our homes out, and have us really think, well, we're lucky we have our lives we made it through.
		But some people you'll hear on TV that say, it's the grace of God that I'm here.
		But not enough of us are saying that.
		And the last time you and I talked on the air about this, I said that we've been given some time.
		A little extra time.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		A little extra time.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		Because of trying to get this message out about the pending warning that's coming.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		God gave us some extra time.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Why, though?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, to get the message out in order to accomplish what?
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		To let us know that we are accountable for everything we have ever done or thought in our lives.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Or thought.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		Or thought.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		You know, like Jimmy Carter.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Jimmy Carter was right.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you are going to pay for that, and we're going to see ourselves the way God sees us in this warning that is coming up.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, you know, if we're accountable for everything we've ever thought, there's not enough money in the IMF to pay my bill.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		Well, if you act upon those thoughts, Art, I think that would be more specific.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		Well, if you admire a pretty woman, if you go as far as Jimmy Carter did, well, then he admitted he committed lust in his heart.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Lust in his heart.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		You know, and I guess everybody has been in that particular situation, you know, growing up or whatever.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Listen, I've lusted in my heart enough times so that, you know, if lust in your heart means, boy, I'd like to go to bed with that woman.
		Boy, I'd like to be in bed with that woman, however you want to put it, then I've got a big bill.
		And I think a lot of us do.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
		But let me ask you something.
		Did you want to take her to bed because of the way she was dressed or because of what she was doing?
		Because she's going to be accountable for causing you to sin.
		We don't think about that.
		We think about that, oh, everybody has their own problems.
		But what we do interacts with everything else that everybody else does.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So she's as accountable for causing these...
		not more so because she enticed you Well, I'm a big fan of beautiful women, and I guess not in every case do I really wish I could go to bed with this woman, but I can appreciate the aesthetic beauty of a truly beautiful woman.
		I always have, and I think most men are that way.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		Well, I think so, too.
		But I think that you know that it can lead to other things that you start thinking or doing when you're concentrating on that beautiful woman.
		And I think that's where it gets into a problem.
		I mean, it's normal to think, wow, you know, that's a good-looking guy or gal, you know.
		I think that's normal.
		But what we're doing now, thoughts aside, our actions are really causing us penalties that are beyond our comprehension.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Actually, Kathleen, to be honest, there's been a change in me.
		Now, when I was in my 20s and early 30s, I think that the appreciation went hand in hand with a wish to be in bed with that woman.
		As I have grown older, it's translated more into a deep appreciation for beauty than it has a call to action, so to speak.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		Right.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		It changes into admiration rather than lust.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, right.
		Yes, yes, exactly right.
		But I think that has more to do with hormonal changes than it does some great spiritual change that has occurred.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		Or is it because you're getting closer to meeting the Creator?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		I think that has something to do with it.
		I think our souls are intrinsically in tune to the Lord.
		And I think that when we start getting a little older, we start to realize, hmm, you know, maybe lust isn't such a good thing.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I have good memories of it, though, Kathleen.
unidentified		Don't we all?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, boy.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		When these earth changes intensify and then the real thing begins, what will happen to us?
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		Well, we've got the Pope that's going to leave Rome.
		That's another clue to the warning.
		We're going to have some wars cropping up just about everywhere.
		And there may be some bombs going off, perhaps even in our own country, before the warning happens.
		So there are a lot of different things that will be happening simultaneously.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You mean literal bombs?
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		Literal bombs could go off.
		I know one visionary estimated 10 million people would be wiped out at one moment.
		Now that gives you some thought about what, if it's a big city, it could be New York or Los Angeles, whatever.
		But Father Martin intimated about that, too.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I know.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		And he was very sure of it.
		And he knew that once these events started, that we had no way to turn back.
		It's too late.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, one can imagine the events you're talking about right now not as a result of the traditional fear of nuclear exchange with Russia or even China, but rather nuclear weapons or biological weapons getting into the hands of terrorists who would unleash them in our larger cities.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		Right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I know that's a fear of most every government agency that deals with that kind of thing.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		They're terrified of it.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		Right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And they ought to be.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Does that fit the description of what you're talking about?
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		It does, and that's only a small piece, if you can imagine that.
		You know, it goes beyond the contrails that we're seeing in the sky that don't dissipate.
		It goes beyond just perhaps some sort of chemical agent being released in St. Louis or wherever.
		It's more than that.
		It's the whole world on the verge of madness.
		Because we're going to see practically most of humanity tip over into insanity.
		Without God, you don't stand a chance.
		You can't be grounded enough.
		And this warning that's coming is going to allow each of us to see how we look to God and what we have done.
		And if we died right at that moment, would we go to heaven, purgatory, or hell?
		And that's eight days of unending problems.
		The warning itself is a small period of time, perhaps only a few minutes.
		But if you experience your sins the way God sees you and you feel the intensity of heat that you would feel if you were in hell, that five minutes of time is going to seem like an eternity.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Kathleen, angels, I really, truly myself, don't exactly understand what the nature of angels are.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		They're creatures separate from man.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		Right, but they're in a hierarchy created by God first.
		They are the creatures that have more power.
		They're brighter.
		They're capable of doing a lot of things, but they are only in spirit.
unidentified		They were creations prior to mankind.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Prior to earth, prior to Let There Be Light?
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
		And they had a whole bunch of angels, you know, in the spirit, not like we would think with wings and so forth.
		They do manifest themselves as having bodies, but for the most part they are pure spirit.
		And they are of higher intellect and capabilities than we have.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Some were cast out.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, how did all that play out?
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		That was a pride thing with Lucifer.
		He was the brightest of all the angels.
		But part of that was through that Jesus would be born of a woman, and that torqued him off.
		He couldn't see that.
		And he knew God told him he would have to bow to his son, Jesus, and he refused.
		And it caused a huge rift in heaven.
		And he was cast out.
		And he is angry, very angry, because he wants to go back to heaven as a conqueror.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		As a conqueror.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		As a conqueror.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		In other words, to, in essence, eliminate heaven.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		Well, no, he thinks he's God in a sense.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		He feels that if he captures enough of the souls on earth, that God will allow him back into heaven.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You know, if I go back in my career a long, long, long way, and I go back to an interview I did with John Lear, son of Bill Lear, who invented the Learjet.
		We did a number of interviews on aliens, and toward the end of those interviews, John was talking about the human body being nothing but a vessel for a soul.
		And that there would be fights over, that they were merely to be harvested.
		I mean, some of that comes back and rings so true to me now when I listen to you talk about the nature of souls and the fight for those souls that is going on and will go on in greater magnitude yet.
		It all comes ringing back.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		It does.
		And just because we can't see them yet doesn't mean that the fight isn't there between the good and the evil.
		We will see it all.
		We'll see them all in their ugliness and their horror.
		And we will see the guardian angels that are good.
		And we will see that we are the prize in the middle.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The Church of England, I read a story the other night.
		The Church of England, I thought it was strange, has upgraded hell.
		In other words, for a while, it was thought of as not so much a real place, I guess.
		But they said, no, hell, we are now going to insist, is the fiery place that we all have thought about, the place of torture that we all have thought about, the worst thing you can possibly imagine.
		There is a real hell, and that is our new position, or our present position, whatever.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's an advancement, isn't it, I guess?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I don't know an advancement.
		I guess it is.
		What is your feeling about hell?
		Is it a real place like that?
		Is it a place of torture and fire?
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		It is.
		It is a place that is located, actually, in the center of the earth.
		This has been told to visionaries since Christ's time.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Physically in the center of our earth.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		In the center of the earth.
		Now, purgatory is very near hell.
		And Limbo, which you've probably heard of too, is located there.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What is Limbo?
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's like the place where before Jesus was born, we're taught that the souls died and went to limbo to be held until he was crucified on the cross, and then he set the souls free.
		So it's like a holding area.
		It's neither bad nor terribly good.
		It's just a place to be.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And purgatory, by comparison?
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		Purgatory is lower towards hell.
		There are 13 levels of purgatory.
		The 13th level being the closest to hell, therefore giving a little more punishment, quite a lot more punishment than the first or second or third level of purgatory.
		And this is because we need to be purified.
		Because we sin, and even though Jesus died for our sins, our soul maintains like that nasty ring around the collar that you can't get out, and that's where you go for the last bleaching process.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Once a soul has gone to hell or even to lower levels of purgatory, is there any escape from that?
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		Yes, absolutely.
		Now, you can't pray for yourself when you're there, but other people can pray for you.
		They can keep you in their thoughts.
		Like Father Martin, I always think of him.
		I'd like to think of him in heaven, but I'm sure he'd want everybody to pray for his soul just in case he's in purgatory.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		Refining those last few points of his soul.
		And you can.
		You work your way up.
		I mean, if you start at 13 and you go up to 7 or whatever, whatever.
		And each level depends on the kinds of sins you committed.
		I mean, if you had a problem with women wearing too many rings or too many fancy things and they hadn't a real attachment to that to the point that it bankrupted the husband or the father or whatever, they have to get over that because that's an imperfection that needs to be purified.
		But they know they're getting out someday, so that's joyful.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So it's not like hell for life after death without parole.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		No, there is parole and mitigating circumstances.
		Which thank God for that because I think it'd be pretty tough to live through it.
		But people do.
		They see their error and they're glad to be there because they know the end result is heaven.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Do you remember the recent movie with Robin Williams going to hell to rescue his wife?
unidentified		Yes.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		What did you think of that?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I thought a lot of it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I thought that if there was a way out of hell, only an act of love of that magnitude would open the door.
unidentified		That's true.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		That's true, but I don't think it's possible.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		I mean, it sounds wonderful, but it's not possible.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, but in a spiritual sense, it is.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		In other words, you said prayers for those who may be there or close.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		Well, not in hell.
		I mean, the prayers that you pray for those people have to be applied to somebody else.
		Because once they're in hell, they're in hell.
		That's it.
unidentified		Oh.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		You are down there, you are trapped in whatever room with whatever device and whatever punishment that you get for eternity.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Room device?
		Yes.
		What do you mean, room device?
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		Although they don't have their bodies with them, the souls take on a human body type form.
		It looks just like you or me, the soul.
		And that particular soul feels pain the way we do on earth.
		So just because you don't have your body doesn't mean it's terribly, not terribly hot or terribly cold, or that you don't have to perform some lewd act for the devil for his enjoyment.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Or terribly painful.
unidentified		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		We'll be right back.
		Stay right there.
		Kathleen Keating is my guest.
unidentified		You're listening to Art Bell Somewhere in Time.
		Tonight featuring a replay of Coast to Coast AM from April 12, 2000.
		The End
		You're listening to Art Bell somewhere in time, tonight featuring a replay of Coast to Coast AM from April 12, 2000.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Don't know why, but these words have had meaning for me for a long time.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Listen very, very carefully.
unidentified		We may still have time, but it's still goodbye.
		Every time I think about it, I won't cry.
		The bombs and the dill, and the kids keep coming.
		We're waiting with ease in the time to be young.
		Oh, oh, oh.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No time to be young.
		Maybe not a lot of time at all.
		Let's get from Nebraska.
		Here is Kathleen Keating.
		And Kathleen, I bet you get a lot like I'm going to read to you right now.
		It says, Art, can't your guests tell us more about the Antichrist without revealing his name?
		Is he currently in American politics?
		What nationality is he?
		Is he Jewish?
		What are his initials?
		Please, this is driving us all absolutely crazy.
		You get a lot of that?
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, quite a bit.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		First of all, his initials are A-C.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		A-C?
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		Or Antichrist.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I thought it was my boss for a minute, Alan Farmer.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		Alan doesn't even look like the guy at all.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So nothing else, and I understand.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		Well, I'll tell you what.
		And the best way to satisfy this, I gave a very, very strong hint as to who he is in the book.
		And it's not a come on to get to buy the book.
		I just think that you would prefer I didn't say it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Actually, I would.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		You know, we've got to be reasonable here.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		We don't want to rush this guy into the forefront.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, no.
		No, no.
		No, it'll happen soon enough.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		It will.
		And it's there.
		You can find out the information.
		But I caution anybody about trying to dig up stuff on this man.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Lawable to get a knock on the door.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, and a lot more than that.
		You know, it's one thing to die.
		It's another thing to live with the guy for eternity.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Now, the next facts that came along might be an interesting one to read to Kathleen.
		It simply says, Art, please, why should we believe this woman, you, Kathleen, knows anything about the third secret of Fatima?
		If she knows, why will she not tell us?
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		Well, Father Martin took an oath not to say it, and as far as I know, he was not going to go public with it.
		I mean, it's something that we wanted.
		I don't think that I would be too smart of a person if I went against who Father Martin thought was a way to live.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I sure have no argument with that, and if I were in your place, I wouldn't tell it, so you're sitting on it.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		Well, and Ark, can I bring up something about the delusions that people have been having and so forth and whether it's not?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		They are delusions, yes.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
		What we see in our disposable society are these people ending up on the street subsisting because they're having these visions or these delusions.
		And I think perhaps we're going to come to the conclusion very soon that maybe these poor people that are suffering, are they actually seeing what's there that we are going to see when the veil is lifted soon?
		I mean, that's food for thought.
		Are they really delusional or do they have the ability to see beyond what we cannot see?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I don't know, and I can't judge.
		One more.
		Please ask Kathleen about the church's belief that the Earth is only 6,000 years old.
		Exactly, how did the dinosaurs fit into that?
		Also, when did the demons start using spacecraft?
		Is this a 20th century phenomenon?
		Or did they develop flight long before us mere humans?
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		Oh, sure.
		I think that you can see that evidenced in the Bible with references.
		And I think that you've even seen paintings, I know I have, of religious paintings that show craft in the sky.
		I think they've been with us from the beginning.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's a fact.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		That is.
		And history, as far as the 6,000 years goes, that's the civilization of man with souls.
		That's like earth history.
		But the dinosaurs were here.
		The earth was formed hundreds of thousands of years ago.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Father Martin was absolutely certain that three days of darkness were coming soon.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		If the three days of darkness should come soon, Kathleen, for those who are listening right now, what would you advise them to do when it begins?
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		Well, first off, I think we have to get through the warning alive before we worry about the three days of darkness.
		I mentioned earlier that we were going to have two major conflicts with God the Father and Lucifer.
		The first one is the warning.
		We're going to lose a quarter of the population of the earth.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		A quarter of the population.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		If we all make it out of there, then we can worry about getting to the three days of darkness.
		But I think we have to be prepared for that first part of what Malachi would call the triple correction.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, but.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		Now, what do we do to prepare for the three days or the warning?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		Get scapulars and wear them.
		Scapulars are something that heaven has given us for protection.
		You have to be spiritually prepared for what's coming.
		There have been stories about people that have worn scapulars that the promise of heaven is that you will not go to hell if you wear that scapular.
		and that's a very comforting thought especially with what's coming is this a time in which you would remain inside in which you would The warning and the three days of darkness.
		The warning, you stay inside for eight days.
		And the three days, of course, obviously would be the three days of darkness.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, now I got this, and I want you to deal with this question.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		By Facts.
		Hi, Art.
		I came across this incredible footnote by Dr. John Mack.
		Do you know who he is?
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		I've heard the name.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Professor Mack from Harvard?
		Yes.
		Who's done a lot of work on abductions?
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		Isn't he a friend of Bud Hopkins?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Indeed so, yes.
		It's in the second chapter of his book, Passport to the Cosmos.
		Kathleen Keating, it says, is right.
		The end is near.
		It is the final warning.
unidentified		The only difference is what is ending.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		In fact, it could be her own church is ending and possibly all organized religion in the face of aliens.
		So she is sensing something, just the wrong thing.
		Now, listen to this.
		Healer and clairvoyant Rosalind Beryer, I think that's French, remarked to Karen Wozlowski, quote, there has never been a group of people in religious ecstasy who did not think the world was coming to an end.
		Their world is coming to an end.
		Not the world, their world.
		The world as they knew it will fall apart because the old world isn't going to be here anymore and everything you thought to be true is going to turn out not to be true.
		That's the quote.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		Very interesting.
		I will have to agree.
		I think that the Catholic Church is coming to an end as we know it.
		And I think that the people that follow the Catholic Church may end up in death camps very soon, and many Christians along with them.
		But I disagree.
		I think we are going to have a one-world religion.
		And I think it's going to be more pantheistic, and it's going to be brought to us by the anti-Pope and the Antichrist.
		But I agree with some of that statement.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And the persecution of Christians will be horrible.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		Camps are waiting for you now.
		Yes, it will be horrible if you live that long.
		I mean, I hope that a lot of people will be able to leave in the rapture.
		But yes, we will see torture and we will see death.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So for some then, the world as they know it may not end.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		Well, I'd go out on a limb and say with due certainty that the world as anybody knows it will not be the same.
		Even for the people that Will be embracing the aliens.
		Nothing you know of will be the same after the warning.
		And that is a very scary notion because we are grounded in our everyday lives.
		We come home, we flick on the TV, we eat dinner, you know, you do laundry, you live.
		From one moment to the next, you make love.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		But it's not going to be that way after the warning.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Kathleen, if I were to tell you that in recent days, I've had a lot of email and faxes from people who've been saying they see a red sky.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What would you say?
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		I'd say this is the sign of the times.
		I think that that's just another clue that we are approaching an interesting situation.
		A lot of people saw beautiful sunsets or red skies right before World War II.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I haven't mentioned this to anybody on the air, but I've been getting from separate sources a lot of people who have been seeing a reddened sky.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		A red sky behind clouds or just plain red sky.
		Now, we are having aurora from time to time, and maybe that accounts for some of it.
		I have no idea, but I thought I would drop that on you just because I've been getting the faxes.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		Well, I've heard a lot of that, too, and Father Martin talked about that, about the supposed Aurora Borealis in 1938 that was visible, and people actually thought in Europe that the mountainside was on fire in Switzerland, and they sent out crews, and they thought Windsor Castle was burning because of this red glow in the sky.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		But that was foretold in Fatima that that would happen as a sign of another great war.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How much do you know about the third secret?
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		As much as I want to know, which doesn't really answer your question.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		I know enough to know that whatever your worst nightmare is, you can multiply it exponentially, and you might have the third secret of Fatima.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Why have the popes who have known this secret been unwilling to reveal it?
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		That's been the great debate.
		John XXIII, Pope John XXIII, was supposed to have revealed it by 1960.
		And Father Martin mentioned in his book, The Keys of This Blood, that perhaps the reason that he didn't was that it would have given Russia a strategic advantage towards the end of the world as we know it.
		They have a goal, and their goal is world domination, but it's going to start with the Vatican.
		And he was very clear, Father Martin, that this was part of the reason.
		I think a lot of the other reason was the fact that Satan was going to enter the Vatican, and if they had told Catholics perhaps in 1955, 1960, they thought people would lose their faith and just give up.
		So that was part of the reason.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How do you view the reports that the Pope may consecrate Russia this year?
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		That's a very interesting statement because there is a professor, he was in Australia recently who mentioned that, who has studied the apparitions at Garabandol, and he mentioned that.
		That is something that the Blessed Mother had asked for at Fatima, and that will usher in a period of peace for a time.
		And this professor also believes that the Pope will be cured shortly thereafter.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The Pope will be, did you say cured?
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		Cured.
		Professor Jacques Seray, S-E-R-R-E, has studied probably about 32 years on this subject.
		And he feels very, very firm that the Pope is going to consecrate Russia.
		He will do it the way he should have done it earlier with all the bishops in the world, so that this will be the quote-unquote official consecration of Russia.
		And the Blessed Mother had promised the world that there would be a period of peace after that.
		So with his cure, you see that we might have maybe a little more time for a while.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
		Interesting.
		Could that yet be extended again?
		Or is there an inevitability to what's to come?
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		That depends on us.
		I told you privately, and I could tell your listeners, that heaven was really taken aback by your show that we did.
		Because people who had been receiving these messages, had heard them for 30 years, suddenly took notice and started to believe.
		They started to really take this thing seriously because of your credibility.
		And heaven was just blown away.
		I mean, in one sense, you know, it would hurt heaven because they've been trying to tell everybody for years what's coming.
		But you in one night with your credibility have helped so many people turn around.
		But the sad thing is people aren't being spiritual enough.
		They're not turning back to God quickly enough and staying there.
		And that's the problem.
		And I think that depends our mitigation of how fast this thing is going to come down the pike is whether we get back to God and we continually pray to God.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Boy, that's almost too heavy for me to imagine that heaven would notice anything I would do.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I wouldn't say so, Art.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		I think you've played a very pivotal role, certainly with Father Martin, in getting these things out to people and letting people know that there is the dark side, that it will reach and touch into your lives at any chance it gets.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're working, speaking of the dark side, one of your latest works is a screenplay called The Gates of Hell.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		Right, and that's about the satanic influence in the Catholic Church and the ultimate takeover.
unidentified		Boy, again and again and again, satanic influence in the Catholic Church.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		Now, I'm not saying the Pope is bad.
		I want to make that very clear.
		Pope John Paul is a very holy man.
		But there are people around him that are manipulating him.
		He has a terrible time getting his encyclicals out written the way he's written them without being changed.
		They have their own agenda, and they're using it, and they're ready to pounce.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I am amazed the man is still alive.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		Yes, but that is due to his, what did Father Martin call it, his strong Polish will?
unidentified		Yeah.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, thank you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It must be pure willpower, keeping him.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		Pure will and the grace of God.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What comes after this Pope, and what should we look for?
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		Most visionaries believe that the next Pope will be the Antipope, and he will usher in severe changes in Catholic dogma and introduce the world to the Antichrist.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, much as he is holding on, holy smokes, Kathleen, he can't hold on forever.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		No.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And that can't be very far away.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		No, I think mathematically we know it isn't.
		Sister Lucy, who was at Fatima, one of the children, was told that she would live to see it.
		She's in her 90s.
		You know, old.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that makes sense.
unidentified		Yeah.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		The writings on the wall or in the sky or wherever it is now, we can see it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So the death of this Pope and the next Pope, with what you've said, people are going to have terrible trepidation at that process.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		Well, they are.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		I mean, some people think that maybe it would be a good Pope that would follow John Paul, but we have to look at the fact that he may be declared dead and not legally dead so that this agenda can be carried forth.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Now that does sound like evil.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're saying that he would go into some sort of coma or some truly infirm more than now.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		Actually, no, I think it would be contrived.
		I think he will leave Rome in exile.
		And in order to cover their tracks, they're going to say that the Pope is dead.
		Nobody would be surprised, would they?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		Not the way he looks right now.
unidentified		No.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, he looks so frail.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		Right.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		And if they feign an accident of a plane going down or something and declare him dead or whatever, or if he's missing, then they can say, well, we can have the conclave of cardinals in the election of the new Pope.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So then you're really suggesting that there is evil all about him, all around him.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Waiting, plotting, planning.
unidentified		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And is he aware of this?
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		Yes, and that's very tough because can you imagine being, have a mind like that with a body that won't cooperate?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Not with that knowledge.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I cannot imagine that.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		Pretty heavy cross of his own to carry.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Jan, for us all, when we realize what it means, should that occur.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		Right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And it could be any day.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		It could.
		Although you will see some precursors, and I think you're seeing some of that right now with the Alien Gonzalez problem in Cuba.
		I think that we're ultimately going to see relaxing of relations with Cuba because of this.
		I think we're all going to try to get along a little better.
		And that's something that visionaries have said.
		When you see Cuba and the United States in good diplomatic relations and the doors are open to Havana, that that's, look out, we're on the verge.
		That is another precursor.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Another precursor.
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So the signs are all around us now.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		They are.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		Things are moving a little bit faster every day, but I think there's still time for people to realize where they want to be, on whose side they want to be.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What kind of preparation should people do?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Should they prepare physically or spiritually or both?
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		But I would say that if you can do all the physical planning in the world, you can have all the food and all the water in the world, but it won't do you a lick of good unless you're spiritually prepared for this.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How do you do that?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How do you get spiritually prepared for it?
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		Go to church, pray, pray, and pray.
		It's going to take that because there's going to come a time during the warning and then after the warning that people are going to have a terrible time praying.
		When you were a kid and you were learning radio and stuff and the Morse code, you practiced it, right?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Endlessly.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		Endlessly.
		But then it got to the point that it was so ingrained with you, you could do it in your sleep or upside down or whatever.
		We have to be that way about prayer.
		We have to pray so much that it becomes just part of our lives.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Kathleen, hold on.
		We're at the bottom of the hour.
		We are going to go to the phones shortly.
		A couple of more questions for Kathleen.
		I'm Art Bell.
		This is Coast to Coast AM, raging through the nighttime.
unidentified		You're listening to Art Bell somewhere in time on Premiere Radio Networks.
		Tonight, an encore presentation of Coast to Coast AM from April 12, 2000.
		I have been only half of what I am.
		It's all clear to me now.
		My heart is on fire.
		My bowl like a wheel that's turning.
		My love is in my love is in life and I can't.
		There's something inside that's drinking me crazy.
		I'll try to keep it together.
		But I say may not happen the same way.
		And that would be forever.
		You look like an angel, walk like an angel, talk like an angel.
		But I got wise.
		You're the devil in disguise, for yes you are, devil in disguise.
		You fool me with your kisses.
		You cheated and you sleep.
		Heaven knows how you lie to me.
		You lie the way you seem.
		You look like an angel.
		walk like an angel, talk like an angel, but I got my word.
		You're the devil in the sky.
		Oh, yes, you are the devil in the sky.
		I thought I was in heaven, but I was sure surprised.
		Heaven helped me, I didn't see the devil in your eyes.
		You look like an angel, walk like an angel, talk like an angel, but I got why you're the devil's God.
		Oh, as you are, in blue skies The End Premier Radio Networks presents Art Bell somewhere in time.
		Tonight's program originally aired April 12, 2000.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, to tell you how serious a lot of people are about this, somebody just sent me a message following a facts they sent that says, Art.
		The facts I just sent.
		Keep it extremely confidential.
		Please erase or block out my name and my friend's name right now, okay?
		I made a mistake in sending along the names with the facts.
		You're too hot for my name to be floating around there, especially about what's his name, okay?
		Thanks.
		Signed.
		Well, he wants me to leave that part out.
unidentified		Cap leading...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Kathleen Keating's book is The Final Warning.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And now, Kathleen, I'm going to read you a fax and I'm going to read it to you in its raw form.
unidentified		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And we'll see how you do with it, alright?
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Arnt, with all due respect to Kathleen and her obvious sincere faith, I'd like to know what kind of allegedly all-knowing and all-loving God could visit such horror and suffering upon his children.
		It seems to me that using the analogy of a parent-child model, such a parent would be charged with the neglect, if not outright abuse.
		I've heard the arguments, all of them, involving free will, original sin, but a truly all-loving God that is also all-knowing would surely not rig the game so as to set most of us up to fail.
		Anyway, it would appear that God has a very insecure ego if he's that pissed off over the specifics of how we see him.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		Is that it?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's it.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		Okay, we crucified his only son.
		What would you do as a parent when we continue to do horrible and abominable things?
		He loves us so much, but you know, a parent doesn't let a child touch a hot stove without saying, don't touch that, it's hot.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's right.
		No, that's right.
		I didn't expect that answer.
		That was a good answer.
		Would you please ask Kathleen, says another, to elucidate upon the identities of some of the visionaries that she's quoting from in such great detail?
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
		I can start with La Salette, the two children there, Fatima.
		I cite these in my book, St. Nihilus, St. John Bosco.
		Innumerable visionaries, and there are over 500 of them, and it's too small of a program to name them.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But a lot of them.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		A lot of them.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		Harry Esperanza, a lot of them.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How long have you been working on all of this?
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		Over seven years.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Why did you begin?
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		That's a good question.
		I fell into it.
		I was on the political side of the investigation, more into the UFO phenomenon and so forth.
		And I ran headlong into prophecy, and I found that they were so linked that you couldn't tell them apart.
		And it was so unbelievable, I had to dig deeper.
		And then once I started digging, I couldn't let go of the story.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I fully understand.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, let's take a few phone calls and see what we get.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		First time caller line, you're on the air with Kathleen Keating.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi.
unidentified		Hi, Art.
		This is John.
		I'm listening to you on 610 CKTV in St. Catharines.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		St. Catharines?
unidentified		Yes.
		All right.
		I just have more of a comment, but I just wonder what really Kathleen is, what her point of all this, like saying all this is.
		It seems like guests like this, all they do is they're pushing their books and nothing else.
		I mean, is she really doing any good by scaring the hell out of everybody like this?
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		I don't know if I'm doing any good by doing this.
		I feel I have a responsibility to get this information out.
		I don't want that on my soul or my conscience that I didn't tell the world what was going on and to give them a chance.
		I've seen people, they've written me coming back to the God and going to church and rediscovering what life is all about.
		So I don't know if that's good or bad.
		I do know that God wants everybody to know that this is going to happen.
unidentified		Okay, fair enough.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Thank you very much for the call and take care.
		That person is not prepared to receive this information, doesn't want to hear it.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		No, and I think you have to be somewhat open to it.
		If it doesn't touch you now, I know it's going to touch you soon.
		And it won't be because of the book or anything else.
		It'll be because that we see God face to face.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Kind of like you can pay me now or you can pay me later.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		Right, or Padre Pio said, you know, if you don't believe in hell now, wait till you get there.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I talk a lot about ufology on this program.
		I'm getting increasing numbers of reports of just absolutely impossible things.
		Large triangles touching down, actually landing in Chile recently.
		Another one knocking off a portion of a cliff in Portugal.
		Some of the most recent wild ones I'm hearing about.
		Now, If these are not aliens, or are they aliens?
		If they're not aliens, then what do you think they are?
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		Well, they are alien to us as far as how they appear.
		They are not aliens as far as what they are or where they come from.
		They come from hell, and they use these transports or these ships because not all of the demons can fly.
		I know that sounds very trite, but it's true.
		They live in the center of the earth.
		They use these ships, one, for transport of the demons to the earth, and two, to perpetrate the biggest hoax that they can about going against the creation theory.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		If we could actually dig deep enough to go to the center of the earth, like Pat Boone in the movie, would we really get to hell?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, there really is that place.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		Your white bucks would get dirty down there, Arnie.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Might be a place, might be a hole we might not want to dig.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		No, and I think it'd be a...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And that would do it?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That would open the door, so to speak?
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		It could.
		I don't think anybody's going to get there.
		I think that they have security up, but it'd be a marvelous try, wouldn't it?
		Maybe Richard ought to get a ship and go down instead of out into space.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's been suggested to him anyway.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		Well, I don't mean that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Wildcard line, you're on the air with Kathleen Keating.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello.
unidentified		Hello?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, hello.
unidentified		Okay.
		Yeah.
		First, before I give Kathleen my question, I'd like to thank you, Art, for helping me make it through a lot of midnight shifts in a steel mill.
		You're very welcome.
		And the first hour that I listened to you back here in Ohio is a replay of the night before.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yes.
unidentified		And in a wrap-up of that, you were talking about God visiting the sins onto the children for three generations.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
unidentified		And I'm holding in my hand a book entitled Adult Children of Alcoholics.
		I'm married to a woman that is an adult child of an alcoholic.
		And it's not so much that God puts it on those third generation people, but it consequentially falls onto them.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I have a very hard time with that, Kathleen.
		That God would visit upon a sinner for three generations, in effect, punishment.
		I just, I don't understand that.
		Maybe you can explain it.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		I'm not so sure it's punishment as a cycle that needs to be broken by God.
		I think that that's an instance where the person really has to turn everything over to God because it is generational.
		Sin is generational.
		The alcoholism that goes to the children, whether they become alcoholics themselves or they go through the memories of the torment that they had as kids with their parents.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		God, Kathleen, I don't understand that.
		Generational.
		Why should sin be generational?
		When a new soul is inculcated, obviously, with your beliefs, you don't believe in reincarnation.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		No.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So when a new soul is inculcated into a body at conception or whenever people think it occurs, why is that new soul not given a clean slate?
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		It is, absolutely, especially at baptism.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But that's not a clean slate.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Not if the sins of the father or the grandfather are being visited.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		I'm not so sure about the accuracy of that.
		I think what we have is that the parents just overwhelm that pure soul with their sins and their addictions.
		And I think that the soul gets bruised.
		I don't necessarily agree that it's a generational thing.
		I think you see it, and I think that the curse is heavy and the baggage that comes along with each generation can be really staggering.
		I don't think that that's something God wants for us, and I really don't think that that suffering is of God.
		I think that's something else.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Colin?
unidentified		Yes.
		My question for Kathleen then is, I've been studying this, well, I'm in my 40s now, but since I was 16, and I'm very familiar with about everything we're talking about.
		My question is, and I'm not familiar, though, with the Catholic Church's position on the rapture, whether it is pre-trib, mid-, post-oriented.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		That's a good question.
unidentified		And it directly affects people like me who are devout Christians.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's good.
		That's good.
		I believe, and a lot of visionaries have documented this, that the rapture has almost started now.
		You're going to see little spurts of people that just aren't here anymore.
		But I think as far as the Catholic terminology from what St. Jerome has translated from the original Bible, is that it will happen, perhaps, I guess we can pinpoint it now, according to visionaries, around the miracle that's going to take place at Garabando.
		And that a lot of people will just be gone at that point.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Just gone.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		Just gone.
		You're going to see people during the warning be raptured and just come up missing.
		But you're going to see the bulk of people going at the miracle.
		Now, the miracle, to answer the gentleman's question, is just about pre-tribulation.
		Things are going to start getting really, really ugly after the miracle.
		So I think it's pre-trib, the way he would define it as a Protestant.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		When you say really ugly, earth changes worse?
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		Nuclear war.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Nuclear war.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		When we get closer to the three days of darkness, demons will be snatching us to keep us from praying and taking us to the Antichrist so that we will die in sin.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		It's going to be an all-out free-for-all for how many souls God can claim and how many souls Lucifer can claim.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So we are the prize.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		We are the prize.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		Our souls are prized by both sides.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What is a soul?
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		A soul, I touched on this lightly, is an entity that God created before we were born.
		And when we were conceived, that soul entered the body.
		The soul grows.
		It looks like us.
		And Catherine Emmerich mentioned that the soul right at death would be hovering above the body, tied like a thread.
		And as the body dies, and that thread is broken, and the soul either ascends to God or descends to hell.
		It feels, it loves, it changes, it grows.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Have you always truly believed this, Kathleen, or have you ever wondered, you must have at times, whether at death it's simply ashes to ashes, lights out, black velvet, good night, end of story?
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		I reached a point where I did.
		I felt that it was over.
		It didn't matter what you did.
		But then I started to, I don't know whether God touched me or I woke up.
		I got to a point in my life where the only thing that made sense was God.
		And that was because I got myself into a corner where I couldn't get out.
		I couldn't rationalize one way or the other.
		It didn't make sense that there had to be something more beyond what we see here.
		That the love that we feel for one another had to have been instilled in us by a greater being and certainly God.
		And I found that out, and my life changed after that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Easter of the Rockies, you're on the air with Kathleen Keating.
		Hi.
unidentified		Hello.
		Hello.
		hi i'd what a good problem I'm from Chicago.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, Mike.
unidentified		I just want to make a comment about how the Roman Catholic Church almost is put themselves above the other religions.
unidentified		Where it almost everything revolves around them.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		Do you really think that's true?
		I think all religions seem to think that about themselves.
		I don't think that that's particularly true of just the Catholics.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you've got to admit, Caller, that name the religion that doesn't think it's the one.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		Everybody else is wrong but the other guy.
unidentified		Well, yeah, but I mean, like, with the Armageddon and stuff coming, and it seems like, you know, this Pope and that Pope were, like, the Roman Catholic Church plays a major role in the whole ordeal.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, how many major churches that you know of, Color?
unidentified		Well.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Wait a minute.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Let me finish the question.
unidentified		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How many major churches, like something the size of the Catholic Church or the Buddhists or the what you name it, believe that their own church is surrounded with evil, that the center of their own church, in this case the Vatican, is surrounded with evil?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How many other major religions do you believe?
unidentified		Point well taken.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, yeah.
unidentified		Yeah, there's not off the bat, I can't think of any.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, me either.
unidentified		I mean, it just seems that like, I don't know, almost like they put themselves above everybody else.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, again, circling back, most religions do that.
		But I repeat, I don't know of any other major church that claims at the highest levels they are surrounded by evil in the way that Kathleen and then, of course, the late Father Malachi Martin has said.
		West of the Rockies, you're on the air with Kathleen Keating.
unidentified		Hi.
unidentified		Hello.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello.
unidentified		Hi.
unidentified		Nice to finally talk to you Mr. Bell and have a great show.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And do you, thank you.
unidentified		Hi, Miss Keating.
		Hi, how are you?
		Hi, my name is James.
		Can I tell you briefly about my certain experiences and ask you for a comment or an advice on what I should do next?
		Or please feel free to tell me if I'm being delusional.
		Sure.
		I've been looking for an answer for several years or an explanation or guidance what to do next, or if it's all just a coincidence and nothing at all.
		I have a very strong Catholic background and my parents, grandparents, as far back as anybody knows, has a very strong background.
		Strange events have been happening in my life of a spiritual, metaphysical nature.
		Starting from the week I was born, I've had many near-death experiences, snatched from death at the last moment, according to my mother, many times as a child, severe accidents, illnesses.
		And as I got older, around 17 or 18, strange events would happen.
		What some people might call visions or dreams about the Blessed Mother, Jesus, recognizing evil in people and events, having strange premonitions that come true.
		Things like on that show called Fallen Angel on the book Celestine Prophecy, things would happen to me that I had read about in these books and seen in the movies years later.
		I've been called a prophet by various Buddhists and Hindus, which I met and very briefly told the situation.
		And it all happens more and more when I pray more and more, but it gets so scary that when I decrease my prayer length, my life becomes more, quote, normal, and these things don't happen too much.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, we are so short on time.
		Kathleen, let me translate that.
		I think I heard clearly what he was saying.
		What's happened to him in his life?
		How is a person to know the difference between delusion and a real message, a real prophecy, a real knowing?
		How is a person to know the difference?
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		Not many people dream of seeing the Blessed Mother or God.
		They may want to, but they don't always see them.
		And I think that that is something you listen to, but you have to test the spirits to make sure that that is indeed a holy vision and not a delusion or something put there by the devil.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I've never had anything of that sort.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I've had a lot of dreams, but never one of a message from God or about God, for that matter.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		And that's rare in that sense.
		It's not rare for people to say, God speaks to me, you know, because we run into those people all the time, usually when they want a buck for coffee.
		And I don't mean that in a derogatory way.
		I mean, people are suffering with true maladies, you know, where they hear these voices and they need help.
		But it does sound like, you know, not many people have those dreams.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		If you have them, you then have a responsibility to talk about them and to take the message forth?
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		Perhaps, depending on the message.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		It may be a private revelation to you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Hold on, Kathleen.
		Kathleen Keating is my guest all the way from Nebraska.
unidentified		You're listening to Art Bell Somewhere in Time.
		Tonight featuring a replay of Coast to Coast AM from April 12, 2000.
		Music Don't leave me this way.
		I can't survive.
		I can't stay alive without your love.
		Oh, baby, don't leave me this way.
		I can't exist.
		I surely lift your tender kiss.
		Don't leave me this way.
		Baby, my heart is full of love and desire for you.
		Now, come on.
		Now, come on.
		She's got something that moves my soul.
		And she knows I'd love to love her.
		But she lets me down every time you make her mind.
		She's always mine with me.
		She'll be so inviting.
		I want her all for myself.
		Oh, temptation eyes.
		Looking through my mind by my door.
		Temptation eyes.
		You gotta love me.
		Gotta love me tonight.
		Love me, baby, yeah.
		Love me, baby, yeah.
		So this is just a game, but just the same.
		My head is spinning.
		Just a ride.
		It's never.
		Premier Radio Networks presents Art Bell Somewhere in Time.
		Tonight's program originally aired April 12, 2000.
		It is indeed.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Good morning.
		Kathleen Keating is here.
		And it's controversial, that's for sure.
		A lot of people do get angry at this.
		They don't want to hear it.
		Or they have a vision of God that they're angry about.
		A God who's not there.
		Who's going to kill people and eliminate a large part of the population?
		And they're downright angry.
		There's no question about it.
		That was that fellow.
		The only thing he had wrong was this program.
		This program is essentially without limits.
		And what we discuss here is without limits.
		What he really meant was, not that I was defiling my program, while in his estimation, I was defiling the program.
		By discussing a subject that made him this angry, because he wants to believe something else.
		That is not an indication of an open mind.
		Hey, listen, I talked to Keith.
		I finally got him on the Board of Belize about two hours from home.
		And that photograph I mentioned of Area 51 is sitting in his email box.
		And so in about two hours when he gets home, he says he's going to post it.
		Once again, here we go, Kathleen Keating.
		Kathleen, welcome back.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		Thanks, Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		An interesting program tonight.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		It's been a real shuffle.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it really has.
		So back to it we go.
		First time caller line, you're on the air with Kathleen Keating.
unidentified		Hi.
unidentified		Is that me?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's you.
unidentified		Okay.
unidentified		Hi, Kathleen.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		Hi, Art.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		Hi.
unidentified		Hi.
		Pleasure to speak with both of you.
		I want to kind of clear up a mistake about the word create evil.
		Well, a little bit of scholarship goes a long way when you study the Bible.
		If you get yourself a Strong's Concordance and a King James Bible, you're getting probably as close to the original translation as you can.
		But the problem being that in the Hebrew, which is about 8,000 some-odd words, 8,900 words, by virtue of where they put accent marks, will change the entire characteristic of the verb.
		And in this case, the word create evil, and by the way, Kathleen, in fact, does say that he does create evil in the King James.
		But a little scholarship, again, goes a long way.
		The word create here means to bring about.
		It does not mean to actually bring it in.
		And in fact, if you look at the, I believe it's the 28th chapter of Ezekiel, you'll see an entire, starting at verse 13, you'll see an entire description of Lucifer and basically what he was made of.
		He's a composite being.
		He's a cherubim, and it is a mistake to believe that he's an archangel.
		He's the cherub who covers the ark, but he is not considered an archangel.
		Those two angels that have been seen in depictions of the Ark of the Covenant are in fact there, but those are not the archangels.
		Those are covering angels.
		And basically, it's a big mistake to think that.
		There's only one archangel that's ever mentioned in the Bible, and that, of course, is Michael.
		Many think that others, such as Gabriel and others, are archangels, and they are simply not.
		Gabriel is the messenger.
		But I'd like to comment on what you've said up to this point.
		I think it's very accurate.
		And the Bible, in fact, if you go to it's Joel chapter 2, you read the entire Joel chapter 2, you'll see the locust army coming on the earth.
		That locust army, in fact, are in fact insectoids.
		And those insectoids are, as you and I both know, are the graves.
		So if you want to see a complete description of what's going to happen to the earth, you look at Joel chapter 2 and you'll see that when they fall on the sword, they cannot be wounded.
		This is a very brilliant description of what's going to happen.
		And others than that, you know what, sir?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I do have, and Kathleen, I do have a feeling that we're going to get to the bottom of the UFO question and begin to realize what Kathleen has been talking about at about the same time?
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		I agree with you, Art.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		I think it's all coming together to one point very quickly.
unidentified		Yeah, I think, Art, that you've been on this for a very long time.
		And I think that some of your deductions, like the global superstorm and basically everything that you've brought forth over these last few years, is very accurate.
		And I want to just thank you for allowing as much science and technology that the average guy in the street has not understood about a lot of this technology, whether it's the alien technology or alien-derived technology, is very accurate.
		I myself am a researcher and a student of first the Bible, and then after I got to the point in the Bible where I didn't find the aliens, and I'm thinking, hey, this Bible says it tells us everything we need to know.
		As Kathleen said, he tells us the end before the, or the beginning before the end.
		Or he tells us everything at the beginning that will happen in the end.
		I couldn't find it, and eventually it required reading the Bible ten separate times.
		And I do it with a software program called BibleSoft.
		And I'm able to click on a word and look it up in the Hebrew and the Greek, depending on New or Old Testament, or the Chaldean, there's some of that, the Aramaic and the Old Testament and Daniel, that basically will get you much closer to the truth than what the 1611 translators of the 1611 King James did, because keep in mind that communications and so on and so forth at that time, given all the information that we have today, was non-existent.
		These guys did the best they could, and they even said there's a preface in the original King James 1611 says, let the buyer beware.
		We think we did a good job here, but we're not sure.
		And you better check every single sentence here because this is between you and the big guy, and that's it.
		This is not between us and you.
		It is between you and the Lord.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Caveat Amtar.
		All right.
		Thank you very much.
		Yeah, Kathleen, I have this feeling that we're going to solve both at the same time, which says something.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		Well, it'll certainly be interesting to see where we end up.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It sure will.
		All right.
		Wildcard line, you're on the air with Kathleen Keating.
		Good morning.
unidentified		Hey, Yard, Kathleen.
		I'm going to make an attempt to try to defuse this a little bit.
		You know, I do agree with you, Kathleen, that communism slash socialism is very much alive and well.
		And I think that Vatican II has been infested by Marxists.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		But, you know, I think there's more to God's heaven and earth than dreamt of by our philosophies and theologies.
		Thanks partly to you, Art.
		But, you know, I think the universe is teeming with life, good, bad, and indifferent.
		You know, just the latest guess on the stars and just our very own galaxy is 400 billion.
		And that's one galaxy out of over 100 billion other galaxies.
		I mean, we've got to expand our minds a little bit to get out of this limited, fierce state.
		Now, for me, I have no guarantee that I'm going to live throughout the day.
		I drive a cab in downtown Atlanta.
		I embrace life daily, and I look to a spiritual reality that I know that is part of my life and I believe in.
		But back down to earth a little bit, I want to ask you about the people that, you know, like the CFR, the Trilateral Commission, Bilderberg's, the Rockefellers, do you believe that these groups and people are part of a new world order agenda that's happening?
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		I certainly do.
		I think they're going to manipulate the economy worldwide.
		And I have hard evidence to prove that they are working in cahoots with the Antichrist.
unidentified		Well, I do believe that they are manipulating us toward a one-world government.
unidentified		Now, beyond that, I don't know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, sir.
		I appreciate your call.
		Thank you.
		West of the Rockies, you're on the air with Kathleen Keating.
unidentified		Hi.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello.
unidentified		Hello?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, you're on the air.
unidentified		Oh.
		Hi, Kathleen.
		How are you calling from Honolulu?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		Aloha.
		I had kind of a question and then a statement after your response that's a little unrelated.
		When you were speaking about the Antichrist, I just kind of had a flash that if in your concept of the Antichrist and your description, if there would ever be someone who could possibly fit the mold for that, it might quite possibly be Vladimir Putin, who suddenly rose out of nowhere to become the premier of Russia.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Could be.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		He's a scary guy.
		He really is.
		I don't know if you've seen the eyes on that guy, but boy.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I know.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		But he is not the one.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		This person is not in so much the public eye right this moment, but he will be.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And she's not anxious to get him there, so that's why you're not getting the name.
unidentified		Yeah.
		I would never judge anybody, much less judge myself.
		But my own view, and that's as far as I can go, is I agree with you there is God, there is Christ consciousness, and both are all-knowing, all-loving.
		And I just can't understand how there's any room for anger with all-knowing, all-loving God and Christ consciousness.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, with somebody who has not become comfortable with the concept that we are, to a great degree, left to our own devices, in other words, all-knowing, all-controlling, he believes.
		Well, God is not all-controlling.
		A lot of it's up to us, and I think he's blaming on God what he should be blaming on us, Kathleen.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		I agree, and I think if you look at the Ten Commandments, you honor God, you keep holy the Sabbath.
		That's how we are Angering the Lord.
		And because he's just, he can't avoid telling us to, you know, if you spare the rod, you spoil the child.
		You spank your children when they're wrong.
		And we're due.
		Past due.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air with Kathleen Keating.
		Hi.
unidentified		Hi, this is Nancy from Pennsylvania.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello, Nancy.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		Hi, Nancy.
unidentified		Hi, I have two questions.
		You had mentioned earlier that your previous show that you were on with art, it shook up heaven.
		And I was wondering if you're an intuitive or how did you know that it shook up heaven?
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		I don't know what particular thing you're talking about.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		Heaven is upset by a lot of things.
unidentified		Well, I thought you said I might have misunderstood that because of the word got out from the previous show that you were on with art?
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		Oh, well, yeah.
		Heaven was, this is through some visionaries that are very trusted, and what they prophesy has come true.
		So there's a lot of validity in it.
		And this one particular visionary was an associate of Father Martin.
		And I was told that art had a big splash in heaven because people finally caught on to what was being said and because of his believability that it helped the message to come through.
unidentified		Okay, that's what I was wondering if it was you or someone else.
unidentified		And the other question was about, on the other previous show, you had said about the three days of darkness and ways you could prepare with putting plastic on your windows.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		Yes, that's also true for the warning.
unidentified		Right.
		And I had counted up my windows and I have like 18 of them.
		And this is going to take a long time to do this.
		But I'm wondering, what about people like elderly people?
		I mean, some people will make it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely, that's a really good question.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Not just elderly people, but people on medication.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		Right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The infirm of various sorts.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What about them, Kevin?
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		The elderly people, from what I understand, will be put into a deep sleep if they are not taken during the warning.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Into a deep sleep?
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		Into a deep, deep sleep.
		Now, we're told with people on medication, and that also applies, this sleep applies to young children as well, under probably the age of seven.
		And you don't have to worry about them for that eight days.
		They will just sleep.
		That is also true in the three days of darkness for the holy people.
		God will protect them in that sleep.
		But as far as medications, it's advised that you put some medications away now.
		Like the manna in the desert, God will multiply things for you if you're generous with your food stores for other people.
		But it's smart to put things away and to put your trust in God.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
		West of the Rockies.
		You're on the air with Kathleen Cheating.
		Hi.
unidentified		Yes, sir.
		Good evening.
		Is this Art?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It is, yes.
unidentified		Hello, Art.
		First of all, I'd just like to say that I feel horrible that you're leaving, but I know you want to move on with other things in your life.
		I think you're an incredible individual and a gentleman.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I have things in my life, sir, that my family that I must put first.
unidentified		Okay, and Kathleen, what I have for you tonight, you're actually your first-time caller, kind of beat me to the punch, but I also have a strong exhaustive concordance of the Bible.
		I don't study the Bible probably as much as he does, but I do understand that in the passage that is in Isaiah where he, the Lord speaks, saying that he is the cause of good and evil.
		Not that he created evil, but it's all directly related to him.
		And I think that to help you, Longhart, with being open and the way your show is run is that one of the most important prayers that we can have for God is to give us wisdom to make the right decisions in our life.
		And a big part of that is when we are hearing information that's given to us from different people or even listening to these guys that get on TV, these evangelists, we should be able to, in ourselves, choose what we believe is the correct path to follow and which is not exactly true, things that we should stay away from.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, you know, I think Father Martin would probably take great exception to that, and he would say, you're wanting to have it your way and cherry-pick your way along, and that isn't the way it works.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Kathleen?
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		Well, I agree.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		It's kind of like we want to play spiritual monopoly where we change the rules.
unidentified		Right.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		And you can't do it.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		And I think that's why we're falling down so much.
unidentified		I don't want to discredit anything that Kathleen's saying because I'm very open, but I don't think that there's anybody on the earth right now that can ultimately say this is exactly what's going to happen.
		I think that we can kind of speculate and move along the right direction, but when things happen, it may not be exactly as certain individuals think.
		I find it a little disturbing, Kathleen, that you're not as educated of the Bible as some people are.
		For example, I don't know if you've ever heard of Father Murray of Shepherd's Chapel in Gravitt, Arkansas.
		He's a no-nonsense guy.
		He can recite the Bible to you in great detail.
		He's very highly educated.
		He speaks Hebrew and Greek, and he knows a lot of the history of the Bible in depth.
		He'd be a great guest for you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Did I hung up?
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		Well, after to bed.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		He hung up.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Or hung himself up.
		I don't know.
		First time caller line, you're on there with Kathleen Keating.
		Hi.
unidentified		Hi, Art.
unidentified		Kathleen, how are you doing?
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		Hi, how are you?
unidentified		I'm fine.
		This is John from Tonica.
		And I was just wondering, Kathleen, you said something earlier about the scapular.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		I was just wondering if you could explain about that a little bit, please.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		The scapular in the Catholic faith was given to us by the Blessed Mother.
		And it's on brown wool with a picture of the Immaculate Heart of Mary and the Sacred Heart of Jesus.
		And there have been a lot of stories attributed to the scapular, some very miraculous.
		There was a man that tried to kill himself, but he had a scapular on and couldn't succeed.
		And finally, he figured out and he took the scapular off and died.
		It has saved a lot of people, especially in spiritual warfare, which is what is approaching us now.
		There are promises that are linked to the scapular that if you wear that scapular, you will not go to hell.
		If you are a good person, you will be spared hell.
		And that's a pretty good promise right there.
		I think that should make a lot of us want to wear them.
		But it does give us strength in an armament that not everyone is going to have.
		I know I hadn't worn one in years, and I put one on, and I felt like a great big whoosh came down on my shoulders, literally.
		It was just like almost being bowled over.
		And I really don't want to go anywhere without it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		You're very welcome and take care.
		Wildcard Line, you're on the air with Kathleen Keating.
		Hi.
unidentified		Hi, Art.
unidentified		This is Andy from Largo, Florida.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		Hi, Andy.
unidentified		Hi, good to talk to you.
		Kathleen, I had the fortunate privilege to talk to you the last time you were on.
		You do very good work, and I think the word is very important.
		So I also think all other religions have an opinion in a story, too.
		My question tonight, though, is earlier when you mentioned hell geographically being located in the center of the earth, in the past 10 years, I've seen certain documentaries and talked to certain people that claim that some division of the government basically has the directions to where this place is at.
		And actually, one of the entrances is from a deep cave system.
		I don't know if you've ever heard anything about this, but, well, it's scary.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		It is, but I mean, considering some of our politicians, does it surprise you that they know the way to hell?
unidentified		Well, yeah, really, really.
		Furthermore, if that's the case, that would blow the lid off of a lot of things.
		I mean, we can keep a cap on UFOs and the reality of that, but hell itself being in the center of the Earth, it's the year 2000.
		You think by now, somebody would have gone down there, whether it's a maybe they have, but they're not coming back.
		Well, true, but do we have that technology to go down there?
		If we did, why we would, who knows?
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		Well, I mean, if they've got spacecraft at Area 51, then I think we have the technology to get there.
unidentified		Well, true, true.
unidentified		I just wanted your opinion on that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, there you have it.
unidentified		Well, Art, listen, thanks, and take care, and it's time for you to start doing some stuff like you want to do, like maybe buy a hydro plane and, you know, put it in your family and enjoy life.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Well, enjoy life.
		I'll vote for that.
		Thank you very much for the call.
		Kathleen, hold on.
		There's more to come.
		Stay right where you are.
		Don't touch that dial.
unidentified		You're listening to Art Bell somewhere in time.
		Tonight featuring a replay of Coast to Coast AM from April 12, 2000.
		I'll give you everything and more, and that's for sure.
		I'll bring you diamond rings and things right through your door.
		you will delight.
		I'll give you time and try.
		There'll be days that will excite.
		I'll make you dream of me at night.
		I'll give you time and try.
		Trees swaying in the summer breeze, showing up their silver leaves as we walk by so much kisses on a summer's day.
		Loving all our cares away, just you and I sweet, sleepy warm on summer nights, gazing at the distant lights in the stars.
		They say that all the things was there someday all the things was for.
		But don't you know that it hurts me to say goodbye to you?
		Wish you didn't have to go.
		No, no, no, no.
		And when the rain beats against my windowpane, I'll think of summer days again and dreams.
		You're listening to Art Bell somewhere in time tonight, featuring a replay of Coast to Coast AM from April 12th, 2000.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Good morning, everybody.
unidentified		They say that all.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Indeed, they do.
		Kathleen Keating has written a book called The Final Warning.
		It is something that I would suggest you give equal consideration to.
		And they're really giving you a good deal on it.
		It's like half price or something.
		Or only for you who have listened to the program tonight.
		Everybody else pays regular price.
		And the phones are so jammed, they are now, that you should try tomorrow or the next day if you don't get through right away.
		Give it a try later.
unidentified		Thank you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Back to Kathleen Keating.
		And somebody writes, Kathleen, during the three days of darkness or the warning, what about our pets?
		A human concern?
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		That's a very good question.
		If the pets are inside and they survive inside most of the time, then just take care of them and feed them if you can.
		If they can be let out, put St. Benedict medals on them and they will be protected.
		Obviously, if you have horses and things like that, you can't bring them inside.
		But put a medal on them, and they'll be fine.
		God will take care of them.
		All right, I had a thing.
		Before I get 5,000 emails tomorrow, I've been asked to do a newsletter that would go beyond the book.
		And I know to stop the emails From coming.
		I will go ahead with it.
		I found a publisher to put it out at cost.
unidentified		Really?
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's called The Messenger, and it'll be $14.95.
		And you can jump from our website to the Messenger site to order it.
		It'll come out monthly starting in June.
		And if you want to send check or money order, it's Post Office Box 23856.
		That's 23856, Columbus, Ohio, 43222.
		And anybody that wants to write me there, they can, and I'll be glad to answer them.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, you need to give that address again.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Nobody ever gets it first time.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		That's true.
		It's the messenger at Post Office Box 23856.
		Post Office Box 23856 in Columbus, Ohio, 43222.
		And that's $14.95, and it's a little over a dollar a copy.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, the Messenger.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		The Messenger.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		And you can get to it from our site, too, as well.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Corey, has your site up and cranking away?
unidentified		It is.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		FinalWarningTheBook.com.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Very good.
		Here we go.
		First time caller align.
		You're on the air with Kathleen Keating.
unidentified		Hi.
unidentified		Hi, Arthur.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello.
unidentified		Hi.
unidentified		Is it Kevin from Boston?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, Kevin.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		Hi, Kevin.
unidentified		Hi.
unidentified		I wanted to ask you, Kathleen, if you ever heard of the bayside prophecies in New York?
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		Yes, I have.
unidentified		Jesus and Mary were appearing to Vermonic Lucan for 25 years?
		Right.
		Great.
		It's true, isn't it?
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		I believe in that.
		I know that there are a lot of people associated with that that don't believe in it, but everything that that woman has said has come to fruition.
unidentified		Right.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		And I think that that is the best way to judge a visioner.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Right.
unidentified		So isn't a computer that they built in Belgium going to play a big role for the Antichrist?
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		They call it the beast, yeah.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		It's all going to come down to numbers and barcodes and money and the lack thereof.
unidentified		And then the computer is supposedly going to control us all?
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		Just about.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		I mean, if they control your food, they control your life.
unidentified		It's going to be a computer chip, right?
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		It's either a computer chip or a barcode.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		Either inserted in the forehead or the wrist.
unidentified		Right, that's what I hear it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, it takes one to read the other.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
unidentified		And also, when do you think the warning's coming?
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		I think it'll be soon.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		I think you still have to see the Pope leaving Rome in exile and some other things that have to happen, but I think that we're getting really ready for it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Close.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Wildcard line, you're on the air with Kathleen Keating.
unidentified		Hi.
unidentified		Hello.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello.
unidentified		This is Gary.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Gary, I can barely hear you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're going to have to scream into that phone.
unidentified		Okay, is this better?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Not much.
unidentified		Not much.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's better.
		That's better.
		Yes, that's better.
unidentified		Okay, Kathleen.
		Yes.
		I feel a real kinship with you.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		You do?
unidentified		Yes, I'm a born-again Christian.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		Oh, good.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		I thought you were going to say I owed you money.
unidentified		I accept Christ as my Lord and Savior.
		I came to him in kind of a different way than most people.
		I prayed with Native Americans for about four years, sweat lodge.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's a different way, all right.
unidentified		Vision quest.
		And I accept Jesus.
		He is the way.
		And you may actually be interested in this.
		The Spirit led me, oh God, I guess the first time it was about 92, down to a place.
		It's about 30 miles southwest of you.
		I'm not going to say the exact spot.
		It's one of those desert mountains there.
		And I go down there two, three times a year to pray.
		And every time I have a vision, and when I started reading the book of Joel, it was like right out of the book of Joel.
		There was one night where I'd been praying.
		I looked up at the, you know, at the sky, and it was like there was no light coming through.
		It was like God had turned off the electricity.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		I guess we don't pay our bills.
unidentified		And every time it's something like that, you know, having to do with Christ coming back.
unidentified		And I get, okay, I'm kind of rambling, so I want to get to the point.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
unidentified		Yes, the solar eclipse last year in Europe.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		They say that it was the darkest since Christ was crucified.
unidentified		And all kinds of things happened that week, you know, besides all those meteor showers.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, it was a very strange week, also.
unidentified		It was.
		Our friend Putin was actually appointed prime minister that week also on August the 9th.
		Kathleen, do you see any special significance to that?
		What is your take on that?
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		Well, Pope John Paul II was born under an eclipse, and some people have said that he would die under that eclipse.
		But I think that that is the eclipse itself, obviously the Pope is still with us.
		I think it signifies, because it darkened the Vatican, I think we're going to see the rise of the antipope very soon.
		And I think it was a significant part of the eclipse itself.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air with Kathleen Keating.
		Good morning.
unidentified		Good morning, Art.
unidentified		Good morning, Kathleen.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		Good morning.
unidentified		Before I ask Kathleen or have a statement there, Art, I just want to say something to you.
		You know, sometimes things that are outside of you in terms of entertainment or media or whatever really end up feeling like part of your life and part of family.
		And I've got to just say one thing.
		You're going to be missed, my friend.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
unidentified		A great deal.
		There's no way to replace you.
		Kathleen, I have been listening with great righteous frustration all night, redialing the phone as fast as I could with the actual redial, trying to get through, practically praying I could get through.
		I just, I'm curious about something.
		I'm going to bring up a statement another young man made.
		It seems to me that to some extent, your knowledge of the Bible, and I'm talking about the Bible as it breaks down back to the Chaldee, the Greek, the Masura, the original manuscripts, is not very strong.
		And that concerns me a great deal, I think, particularly for some of the people That have been listening tonight, one young girl who was very confused, other people who have their own conceptions about what's happening and what isn't happening.
		And some of the things that you yourself have said about the end times are somewhat inaccurate.
		I guess I just wonder: you know, does this concern you?
		I mean, how do you feel about that?
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		The Bible I use is the Bible that was translated by St. Jerome, so it differs from the King James in the fact that...
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		No, I know that, and I was trying to make a statement.
unidentified		I'm sorry, I apologize.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		No, no problem.
		I'm no Malachi Martin.
		I never claimed to be, and I wish I had a tenth of his knowledge when it comes to the Bible.
		But the things that I'm talking about are definitely in the Bible.
		And the things that are coming are definitely in the Bible.
unidentified		I guess the one thing I would like to ask you is, you know, in the Catholic faith, I'm not Catholic, but I know that you've discussed earlier this evening the various levels of hell and perdition and so forth.
		Those are non-scriptural.
		And I guess that concerns me.
		I mean, this is strictly a Catholic tradition in terms of describing the levels of hell, its location, and so forth.
		Well, I understand that, Art, but we are also talking about something that is going to affect the people of the entire world here.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		And that's where the warning's going to clear that up.
		We'll find out if I'm right or wrong, or the Catholic Church is right or wrong on that.
		But I feel very strongly about the purgatorial teachings of the Church because the evidence is there given to visionaries who have, again, prophesied and been 100% accurate.
unidentified		Okay.
		I would like to just leave with one last statement, you know, thanking Art again.
		I guess I would just suggest, Kathleen, for yourself and also with a lot of the people listening out there, please try to find a scholarly individual who can teach the Bible from its foundation.
		The young man offered to you art before, a pastor by the name of Arnold Murray, who teaches on a pre-recorded program weekly around the United States called Shepherd's Chapel.
		And he's a very no-nonsense ex-Marine.
		I think you'd get a big kick out of him.
		I doubt there's time before you leave.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, he might make a good guess, and there might be enough time.
unidentified		If there's time, and he would be willing.
		I'm not sure he'd be willing.
		He's pretty cantankerous about that kind of thing.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, so am I. So we might do well.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And then again, you've got to think that you might be at some level yelling up, hey, Kathleen, you were right.
unidentified		Yes, this is true.
		Ultimately, what the other guy said might be true.
		Maybe none of us really know what's coming, you know?
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		There you are.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thanks for the call.
		Both of you.
		Take care.
		Welcome to the Rockies.
		You're on here with Kathleen Keating.
unidentified		Hi.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello.
unidentified		Hello?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, hello.
unidentified		I'm on.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, you are.
unidentified		Oh, my God.
unidentified		Thank goodness for the redow button.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
unidentified		All right, it's a pleasure to be talking to you.
		I have a great deal of respect for you because you're one of the few people who brings out the things that a lot of us want to know about.
		And it's a crying shame that you're leaving the air.
		And I just wish that you would reconsider.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I appreciate your concern, sir, but I'm doing what I need to do.
unidentified		Yeah, I understand.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		West of the Rockies call toll-free, 1-800-618-8255.
unidentified		Johnny Carson, late-night television, is just not there.
unidentified		He was him, and you were you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I appreciate that, sir.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
unidentified		But that's from the bottom of my heart.
		There aren't enough people like you out there talking about things that need to be talked about.
		As for Kathleen, your guest, the only thing I can say to you is I'm not a religious person by any stretch of the imagination.
		I was born in a Jewish family.
		I'm not religious, but I consider myself to be highly spiritual.
		And there's a great deal of difference.
		I don't subscribe to any organized religion because I think what it does is tries to instill fear in people.
		And I think it did that historically to try to group people together.
		And historically, when we were in the dark ages, coming out of the cage, I think there was a need for it to bring people together with some form of structure and some sort of belief that everyone could adhere to to establish some sort of kinship.
		But I think those days are over.
		I think there's goodness, there's God, in your terms, God within each of us.
		There's a spirit in each of us.
		I do believe in reincarnation, by the way, and I've proven that to myself.
		I have also hypnotized people, as Art has.
		And they have verified events that happened in their past lifetimes, so that's not true for me.
		And I know these people very well.
		And they checked on historical records, places they've never been.
		They described their death.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, we're kind of short on time.
		Let me bring up that point with her.
		Well, regression hypnotherapy has turned up some astounding things.
		I mean, people have gone back and described prior lives and things in those lives, specific names and places they could not possibly be familiar with, and yet they are.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So otherwise, how is one to decipher this information?
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		You have to be very careful, and I'm sure Malachi has mentioned this, that you cannot open a door to another level because the spirits do have knowledge, and they're not always good spirits that fill you with that knowledge for you to regurgitate.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		First time caller line, you're on there with Kathleen Keating.
		Hi.
unidentified		Hello, Art.
		Hello.
		Yeah, this is Ross in Apple Valley.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		Yeah, I personally want to say that I'm going to miss you, and I hope the best for your family.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I miss you all, too.
unidentified		Thank you.
unidentified		Yes, Kathleen?
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		Yes, I believe in God and evil, you know, Satan and all that.
unidentified		But I have a problem with, you know, the story with God creating the big flood, but he told Noah and his family to build the ark, and then all other life was destroyed.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		Right.
unidentified		Noah and his family had to restart life, right?
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		Right.
unidentified		Okay, then you go back farther.
unidentified		Do you believe that Adam and Eve was our parents, our first human beings on earth?
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		I think they were the first human beings that had souls.
unidentified		Okay, but isn't that more or less saying that God is okay in incest?
		Because if they I mean, that's basically what it is.
		And I don't know, God I believe in would not go for that.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		Incest, how?
		Well, Noah's children were married to women.
		They were not brother and sister.
		So Noah had relatives, you know, on both sides.
		He had in-laws.
unidentified		Their children.
		Their children.
		And even Noah's family.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		Well, I see what you're saying.
unidentified		That would be basically incest.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		There are cases that come up that certainly smack of incest in the Bible.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		But I think you have to look at it in particular to the situation in which Noah found himself.
unidentified		I just, that's what's always puzzled me.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		Well, you brought up a very good point that I don't think many people talk about.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, that's right.
		I bet they don't.
		And one of the reasons would be they don't really have exactly the right answer.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		It could be a tough one.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		Wildguard Line, you're on the air with Kathleen Keating.
		Hi.
unidentified		Yeah, hi, Art.
		Can I use both my Christian names?
		No.
		Okay.
		Paul, calling from New Mexico.
		Thank you.
		Art, I haven't always agreed with you, but I can honestly say there'll never be another one quite like you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, well, you can say that about Castro, too.
unidentified		Thank you.
		I probably have.
		Kathleen, I wanted to ask, funny you brought that up, Art.
		I wanted to ask you, is there any way you could tell us if it would be God's will that the Cuban boy should stay or if he should go?
		I've been having a terrible time with this.
		What was it?
		800,000 people?
		That's what I heard on the news down there protesting.
		I don't know if that's true or not, but it sounds pretty biblical.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Kathleen, yeah.
		There is a classic question.
		The Cuban boy makes it to our shores.
		Mom dies getting him here.
		Dad wants him back.
		He's in communist Cuba.
		We are in one of the worst moral dilemmas that we've ever been in for one little boy in our nation's history.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		Definitely.
		And I don't know where you fall in this one because it's the father has rights, the child has rights, and freedom, I think a lot of people think that that should win over everything over emotional family ties.
		So I don't know.
		I don't have the answer.
		It's a tough one.
		But I think you are going to see a change in diplomacy with Cuba because of this.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But you don't necessarily regard that as a good sign.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		No, I don't.
		I think it's good for the people that have family still in Cuba and so forth.
		But I think it's, like I said, a precursor to the warning.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And to me, that's it's just beginning of the warning or beginning of the end, depending on how you want to think of it.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		Or the beginning of the beginning.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, maybe that way, too.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Well, again, your book is on sale for this program only.
		Normally, your book is...
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		And it won't be in bookstores until August.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Until August.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		Until August.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Not only do you get it early, but you get it cheap, $10.95, $5.95 shipping and handling.
		That's it.
		The number to call is 1-877-620-2665.
		That's 1-877-620-2665.
		And you wanted also, Kathleen, to give out an address again, I believe.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		It's for the messenger.
		That's the monthly newsletter.
		It's Post Office Box 238-56, Columbus, Ohio, 43222.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Now, that's also an address where people can write to you.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		Personally.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Personally, if they wish.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		I will answer each and every letter that I get.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		And that goes for email, too.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Then give it again.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		Post Office Box 238-56, Columbus, Ohio, 43222.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I really want to thank you for being here a second and probably final time with me.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		Well, thank you, Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And come back to Coast to Coast A.M. again, please.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		Thank you, Art, and take care of yourself and know that God really wants to thank you for what you've done.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Good night, Kathleen.
kathleen keating ▲ ● ▼		God bless.
unidentified		Bye-bye.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, folks, that's it.
		That's all the time we've got this night.
		Now, tomorrow, we'll twist you back around again.
		James Oberg, who recently had a remarkable United Press International story about NASA, who was, in fact, at NASA Mission Control for, I don't know, 20 years, a long time, and has a lot to say about NASA, is going to be here.
		That's going to be a very important program.
		James Oberg, tomorrow night, right here.
		For now, from the high desert, I'm Mark Bell.

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